[expert] What does it take to build koffice-1.1beta?

2001-04-27 Thread Praedor Tempus

I downloaded the src.rpm for koffice-1.1beta from the cooker directory.  I am 
running Mandrake 8.0.

I try to build it and it ALMOST completes but then craps out with:

Processing files: koffice-devel-1.1-0.beta1.1mdk
Finding  Provides: (using /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides)...
Finding  Requires: (using /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires)...
PreReq: rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1

Huh?  I the same rpm 4.0-26mdk rpms as Cooker has.  None of these files has 
changed since the release of 8.0 (yet).  I must assume that the i586.rpm in 
the cooker binary directory was therefore built with essentially the same 
background as my system (except that the i586.rpm is unusable on an 8.0 
system unless you install kde 2.2 as well).  

I am trying to build this for my 8.0 system witn kde 2.1.1.  What does the 
above message really mean?  I do believe that rpm-4.0-26mdk is WELL beyond 
rpm-4.0-1 (the rpmlibs are also similarly beyond 4.0-1).
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Re: [expert] StarOffice

2001-04-23 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have StarOffice 5.2 and have used it extensively.  It is a good package but 
it is HUGE.  It's one fault is simply that it has everything built into it so 
that when you start staroffice, you aren't simply starting the wordprocessor, 
but you are also starting the spreadsheet app, the graphics app, the 
presentation app, etc.  

I have used it quite a bit mainly because of its compatibilities with Word 
and other M$ office apps.  The one shortcoming it has, in my book, which has 
since led me to use Lyx as my primary wordprocessor, is no 
citation/bibliography capability.  With Word or Wordperfect (on windoze) you 
can buy EndNote and write nice research papers complete with citations and 
automagically generated bibliography pages.  StarOffice cannot do this - any 
citations you make have to be hand-written and organized (a hideous 
proposition if you are citing many sources).  The ONLY wordprocessing app for 
linux that can do essentially what the combo of Word and EndNote can do in 
windoze is Lyx with pybliographic or sixpack.  It is this one thing that 
prevents me from using staroffice exclusively.

I actually sent Sun a suggestion that they add a bibliography capability to 
StarOffice, and ultimately they did - sortof.  It can handle only the 
bibliography part, via the builtin database, but it doesn't in any way, shape 
or form work the way EndNote does with Word or Wordperfect.  The 
bibliographies you might create within the StarOffice suite cannot be used to 
auto-generate citations and reference pages.  

Anyway, the suite is good, works well.  If you do not need to write papers 
requiring a lot of citations and reference pages, then it is more than 
adequate.  Otherwise, I would suggest you take the time to learn how to work 
with Lyx and pybliographic.

On Monday 23 April 2001 18:22, Neal Lippman wrote:
 Any users of StarOffice out there who can comment on it? I can really use
 something compatible with MS Word 2000; KWord just cannot cut it at this
 point and there really is no choice but to be compatible with the MS world
 from time to time, when I have to bring work home.

 Neal

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[expert] One Mandrake 8.0 problem - kdm

2001-04-20 Thread Praedor Tempus

My mandrake 8.0 system is pretty much running perfectly.  The only problem I 
have so far is the kdm login manager displays not just users but all ALL the 
services on the system. 

What/where is the file that I need to edit to eliminate everything except 
real users?
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[expert] Supermount only possible for root

2001-04-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have a ppa zip drive and 2 cdroms setup with supermount.  Only root is able 
to mount them.  How do I correct this so that I, as a user, can mount the zip 
and cdroms? 
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[expert] Explain this please Mandrake

2001-04-17 Thread Praedor Tempus

Why is it that the default window environment in Mandrake is KDE but the 
mandrake config tools are based on gtk?  I cannot do anything with DrakConf 
because:
[root@localhost praedor]# DrakConf.real
new_font is not of type Gtk::Gdk::Font at /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 
212.

A system based by default on qt and kde uses gtk, which is often broken, in 
my experience on Mandrake, like above.  No font I try to select with drakfont 
will correct this problem.  

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[expert] What's THIS now?!

2001-04-17 Thread Praedor Tempus

I just rebuilt a kernel (2.4.3-19mdk) after having built 3 previous kernels 
(2.4.3-10mdk) without ANY problems.  I did:

"make xconfig  make clean  make bzImage  make install  make modules 
 make modules_install"

Same as always.  The kernel builds just fine but when it comes to installing, 
the process craps out with an error that a bootloader could not be found (!?).
OF COURSE a bootloader is installed, nothing has changed here.  Lilo is 
installed and it is installed in the MBR or /dev/hda.  The app, detectloader 
cannot see it and this is killing the installation of the kernel.  If I run 
detectloader manually, it says it cannot detect a bootloader in the MBR.

What. The. Fu*k!?  I then ran lilo just to be sure, and, yep, it installs.  
It has also been working fine up to this point.  Lilo IS installed.  It IS in 
the MBR of /dev/hda.  It WAS detected just fine by all my previous kernel 
build processes.  I have not rebooted since the last one, and the system 
booted up just fine in any case VIA LILO.  

How, in linux (not in DOS or windoze) do I wipe the MBR and then reinstall 
lilo?  What is the problem here?
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[expert] Almost home - resolution is too high

2001-04-17 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, it looks like I have finally gotten DRI working.  The problem is the 
default X resolution is too high.  I would like to set it lower, to 1024x768, 
but if I use any of the tools supplied by Mandrake to do this, it screws 
everything up and sets the system up to use the original XFree86 instead of 
the DRI stuff.  

I looked through XF86Config and XF86Config-4 and see nothing obvious that I 
could edit to change the default resolution.  What file, and where, is in 
charge of XFree resolution?
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Re: [expert] Someone from mandrake want to toss me a bone?

2001-04-14 Thread Praedor Tempus

Unfortunately, I had to elect to reinstall everything.  I am now in the 
process of downloading a bunch of src rpms to bring back kde 2.1.1, 
kernel-2.4.3, XFree86-4.0.3, and several other things.  It will be a long day 
tomorrow rebuilding a working system.

On Saturday 14 April 2001 12:49 am, you wrote:
 I sorta know how you feel.  My drakconf is out of commision also.  But I
 think it has more to do with kde upgrades than the kernel.  At least the
 2.4.3-13mdk fixed my memory problems.  All my hardware was already set up,
 so I'm ok for now.  However, next week I'm installing a nic card and it
 would be nice to use some of those now unavailable tools.
 I may have to start over from scratch also.  (D*mn it.)  :-((
 -s

 On Friday 13 April 2001 11:08 pm, you wrote:
  Yeah, well the problem there is that I have tried three things:
 
  XFree86 -configure
  and
  xf86cfg
  and
  xf86config
 
  XFree86 -configure works, sortof.  I get a working X but it has the color
  depth of 256 colors at 2048x1024 as the default.  I have tried editing
  the resulting XF86Config to change this to no avail.
 
  xf86cfg flat out doesn't work.  It crashes at startup.
 
  xf86config works, sort of, but it doesn't help me with color depth.
 
  The kernel:  I installed kernel-source-2.4.3-17mdk and the associated
  kernel-headers.  I then did the xconfig, make dep, make clean, make
  bzImage, etc.  It builds just fine and installs fine.  What it absolutely
  will NOT do is boot.  Instead, it kernel panics regardless of what
  settings I change.  I am using the same settings/modules, etc, that
  worked perfectly for 2.4.2-20mdk when I built that.
 
  I am about to annihilate XFree86 off my system and reinstall it from
  scratch. Hopefully that will fix the problems associated with it, but it
  wont do squat for the kernel.  I am going to have to reinstall the 2.4.2
  source so I can rebuild DRI for my radeon card.  I was going to do it
  with 2.4.3, but since it is a useless kernel, it's back to 2.4.2.
 
  On Friday 13 April 2001 09:30 pm, F% wrote:
   Ok, i'm about to offer my two cents. But first let me say that this is
   not a criticism of DrakX, Linuxconf, or any other "to configure, press
   this button" configuration tool. They rock! Why reinvent the wheel? Why
   make things difficult when there is an easy way? But, enjoying linux
   for what it is, here's my $0.02:
  
   This is why it's good to know how to configure things manually and not
   to have to depend on a configuration utility.
  
   There! I said it. Having said that, i don't know how to help you with a
   manual configuration of your printer or your kernel. For your printer,
   i would suggest poking around in /etc/sysconfig. For your kernel, i
   would suggest installing it from source, as opposed to rpm. And for
   drakconf, i don't have anything to suggest.
  
   ?,
   j
  
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OK, I really need some help here.  I built kernel-2.4.3-17mdk without
any problem using essentially the same settings as a successful build
of 2.4.2-20mdk.  Kernel-2.4.3-17mdk will NOT bootup.  It gives a
kernel panic about not being able to mount root device "306" or
03:06, and states that I need to pass it a proper "root=" append. 
Huh?  2.4.2 has NO problems with my system at all but 2.4.3 refuses
to accept my system. It built just fine.
   
Second.  ALL drakxtools are totally dicked up and unworkable.  I have
tried various versions of drakxtools on my system from 33.5mdk to
91mdk and they ALL fail to work.  If I try to change my X resolution
using drakx, I get:
   
String found where operator expected at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm
line 583, near "output "/proc/parport/0/irq""
(Do you need to predeclare output?)
syntax error at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 583, near "output
"/proc/parport/0/irq""
Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/XFdrake line 24.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/XFdrake line 24.
   
I have tried doing this with perl-5.600 to 5.700 and it is ALWAYS the
same. Besides that, what the hell does a parport or IRQ have to do
with XFree86 resolution?!  Why does it matter one bit what
/proc/parport has in it if all I want to do is change my default X
resolution?
   
I also cannot use printerdrake:
   
everything already installed
Undefined subroutine interactive::deref called at
/usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 284.
   
Totally useless...I have a printer but cannot install it because
printerdrake is dorked up.
   
I have also tried compiling drakxtools from source.  It builds but
produces the same damn errors.  What is wrong here?  How do I fix it?
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[expert] How dost one change from rpm-3.x to rpm-4.x?

2001-04-14 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am presently in the late process of rebuilding my system.  I reinstalled 
Mandrake 7.2 and am now upgrading beyond 7.2, but not quite to 8.0.  I am 
trying to do this cleanly and systematically.  

I am about to switch to glibc2.2, rebuild my kernel, rebuild XFree86, and 
then, I would like to upgrade from rpm-3.x to 4.x.  Last time I attempted 
that particular change, it totally dicked up my system with all my previously 
installed rpms being lost to the new rpm.

I would like to avoid this on this go around.  How does one upgrade to 
rpm-4.x without losing the list/database of installed rpms from 3.x?  

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[expert] Mandrake 8.0 kernel-2.4.3-17mdk is NOT working!

2001-04-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

Gah!  I am going crazy with the multitude of problems that apparently exist 
in Mandrake Cooker right now (I KNOW it is beta but until now I have NEVER 
had so many problems with Cooker stuff).

Among the MANY problems:  drakx software doesn't work.  Period.  I open up 
DrakConf and try to do ANYTHING with hardware, XFree, and DrakConf refuses to 
work.  It cannot simply wont display anything - if I select printers, 
display, etc (I want to change my default X resolution and am not permitted 
to with ANY Mandrake tools and I want to setup my printer and not a single 
tool with Mandrake will let me).

Now, I downloaded kernel-source-2.4.3-17mdk and the headers, did my usual 
xconfig and build.  It built just fine, as usual, but no matter what I do, 
the resultant kernel will NOT bootup.  It kernel panics instead with:

Cannot mount root device "306" or 03:06
Please append correct "root=" boot option.

Excuse me?  Has something been totally and royally screwed up and changed in 
2.4.3 vs 2.4.2 kernels?  I ask because I have a 2.4.2 kernel, built by myself 
with essentially the same options and modules, and it boots just fine, thank 
you.  2.4.3?  A total loser.  IS there something fundamental that I should 
know about in the 2.4.3 kernel that is way different from the 2.4.2 kernels 
that prevents it from booting as I describe?  I have looked over my lilo:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=791
default=242-20
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw

other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-4mdk
label=linux
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
append="hde=ide-scsi"
optional
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-7mdk
label=242-ati
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
append="hde=ide-scsi"
optional
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-20mdk
label=242-20
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
append="hde=ide-scsi"
optional

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.3-17mdk
label=243-17
root=/dev/hda6
read-only
append="hde=ide-scsi"
optional


Is there something wrong here?  If so, I don't see it.  WHY WONT KERNEL 2.4.3 
BOOT?!

How can I change my default X resolution?  It is apparently 2046x1076 or 
something ungodly like that on my 17" monitor.  No me gusto.
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[expert] where does install_any.pm come from?

2001-04-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

One of the major components to all my Mandrake Cooker problems appears to be 
the lack of install_any.pm.  From what rpm (I believe it must one of the perl 
rpms) does install_any.pm come from?
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[expert] Someone from mandrake want to toss me a bone?

2001-04-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, I really need some help here.  I built kernel-2.4.3-17mdk without any 
problem using essentially the same settings as a successful build of 
2.4.2-20mdk.  Kernel-2.4.3-17mdk will NOT bootup.  It gives a kernel panic 
about not being able to mount root device "306" or 03:06, and states that I 
need to pass it a proper "root=" append.  Huh?  2.4.2 has NO problems with my 
system at all but 2.4.3 refuses to accept my system.  It built just fine.

Second.  ALL drakxtools are totally dicked up and unworkable.  I have tried 
various versions of drakxtools on my system from 33.5mdk to 91mdk and they 
ALL fail to work.  If I try to change my X resolution using drakx, I get:

String found where operator expected at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 
583, near "output "/proc/parport/0/irq""
(Do you need to predeclare output?)
syntax error at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 583, near "output 
"/proc/parport/0/irq""
Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/XFdrake line 24.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/XFdrake line 24.

I have tried doing this with perl-5.600 to 5.700 and it is ALWAYS the same.  
Besides that, what the hell does a parport or IRQ have to do with XFree86 
resolution?!  Why does it matter one bit what /proc/parport has in it if all 
I want to do is change my default X resolution?  

I also cannot use printerdrake:

everything already installed
Undefined subroutine interactive::deref called at 
/usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 284.

Totally useless...I have a printer but cannot install it because printerdrake 
is dorked up.

I have also tried compiling drakxtools from source.  It builds but produces 
the same damn errors.  What is wrong here?  How do I fix it?  
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Re: [expert] Someone from mandrake want to toss me a bone?

2001-04-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

Yeah, well the problem there is that I have tried three things:

XFree86 -configure 
and
xf86cfg
and
xf86config

XFree86 -configure works, sortof.  I get a working X but it has the color 
depth of 256 colors at 2048x1024 as the default.  I have tried editing the 
resulting XF86Config to change this to no avail.

xf86cfg flat out doesn't work.  It crashes at startup.

xf86config works, sort of, but it doesn't help me with color depth.  

The kernel:  I installed kernel-source-2.4.3-17mdk and the associated 
kernel-headers.  I then did the xconfig, make dep, make clean, make bzImage, 
etc.  It builds just fine and installs fine.  What it absolutely will NOT do 
is boot.  Instead, it kernel panics regardless of what settings I change.  I 
am using the same settings/modules, etc, that worked perfectly for 
2.4.2-20mdk when I built that.  

I am about to annihilate XFree86 off my system and reinstall it from scratch. 
Hopefully that will fix the problems associated with it, but it wont do squat 
for the kernel.  I am going to have to reinstall the 2.4.2 source so I can 
rebuild DRI for my radeon card.  I was going to do it with 2.4.3, but since 
it is a useless kernel, it's back to 2.4.2.

On Friday 13 April 2001 09:30 pm, F% wrote:
 Ok, i'm about to offer my two cents. But first let me say that this is not
 a criticism of DrakX, Linuxconf, or any other "to configure, press this
 button" configuration tool. They rock! Why reinvent the wheel? Why make
 things difficult when there is an easy way? But, enjoying linux for what it
 is, here's my $0.02:

 This is why it's good to know how to configure things manually and not to
 have to depend on a configuration utility.

 There! I said it. Having said that, i don't know how to help you with a
 manual configuration of your printer or your kernel. For your printer, i
 would suggest poking around in /etc/sysconfig. For your kernel, i would
 suggest installing it from source, as opposed to rpm. And for drakconf, i
 don't have anything to suggest.

 ?,
 j

 --- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK, I really need some help here.  I built kernel-2.4.3-17mdk without any
  problem using essentially the same settings as a successful build of
  2.4.2-20mdk.  Kernel-2.4.3-17mdk will NOT bootup.  It gives a kernel
  panic about not being able to mount root device "306" or 03:06, and
  states that I need to pass it a proper "root=" append.  Huh?  2.4.2 has
  NO problems with my system at all but 2.4.3 refuses to accept my system. 
  It built just fine.
 
  Second.  ALL drakxtools are totally dicked up and unworkable.  I have
  tried various versions of drakxtools on my system from 33.5mdk to 91mdk
  and they ALL fail to work.  If I try to change my X resolution using
  drakx, I get:
 
  String found where operator expected at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line
  583, near "output "/proc/parport/0/irq""
  (Do you need to predeclare output?)
  syntax error at /usr/lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 583, near "output
  "/proc/parport/0/irq""
  Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/XFdrake line 24.
  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/XFdrake line 24.
 
  I have tried doing this with perl-5.600 to 5.700 and it is ALWAYS the
  same. Besides that, what the hell does a parport or IRQ have to do with
  XFree86 resolution?!  Why does it matter one bit what /proc/parport has
  in it if all I want to do is change my default X resolution?
 
  I also cannot use printerdrake:
 
  everything already installed
  Undefined subroutine interactive::deref called at
  /usr/lib/libDrakX/interactive.pm line 284.
 
  Totally useless...I have a printer but cannot install it because
  printerdrake is dorked up.
 
  I have also tried compiling drakxtools from source.  It builds but
  produces the same damn errors.  What is wrong here?  How do I fix it?
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[expert] More Cooker problems

2001-04-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

I now find that I cannot do a "make xconfig" in Cooker.  If I do, it craps 
out with:

rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/scripts'
cat header.tk  ./kconfig.tk
./tkparse  ../arch/i386/config.in  kconfig.tk
echo "set defaults \"arch/i386/defconfig\""  kconfig.tk
echo "set ARCH \"i386\""  kconfig.tk
cat tail.tk  kconfig.tk
chmod 755 kconfig.tk
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/scripts'
wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
Application initialization failed: unknown color name "Black"
Error in startup script: can't invoke "button" command:  application has been 
destroyed
while executing
"button .ref"
(file "scripts/kconfig.tk" line 51)
make: *** [xconfig] Error 1

Wonderful.  Something really fundamental is broken here and it appears to 
affect cups, DrakConf, tk (via xconfig when making a kernel). 

SHIT!  It's a real pain in the ass to go back and reinstall an outdated 7.2 
and then go through the pain of updating THAT again.  Is anyone running 
Cooker without these MANY problems?
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[expert] No colors?!

2001-04-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

It appears that the source of one of my problems with MANY things in cooker 
is colors.  If I try to build a kernel and start with the "make xconfig", it 
craps out because it cannot understand simple colors (black, gray, etc).  If 
I try to run xf86cfg, it craps out because it cannot figure out colors.

KDE is fine and I have a color display.  From where are the color definitions 
derived that seems to be missing on my system?  When running xconfig, where 
does it acquire its information on colors?
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[expert] Since upgrading from KDE 2.1 to 2.1.1 - menu problems

2001-04-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

I upgraded to kde 2.1.1 and now my menus in kde are all messed up.  If I 
start kmenuedit, anything I do there has no effect on my menus.  The only way 
I am able to alter/edit my kmenu is to copy files from 
/usr/share/apps/applnk.kde into $HOME/.kde/share/applnk.  If I start 
kmenuedit, it LOOKS normal and OK there but it doesn't do anything.

What is up with 2.1.1?  It seems that with every update, kde is meaninglessly 
altered in subtle ways from the previous version just enough to dick 
everything up with no benefit gained from the change.  These changes appear 
gratuitous and of no functional or usability benefit whatsoever.  


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[expert] Mandrake 8.0 kde-2.1.1 menudrake doesn't work

2001-04-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

I installed KDE 2.1.1 and all works except the kmenu and kmenuedit.  After 
the install, kmenu was essentially empty with only rudimentary entries like 
bookmarks, recent documents, run, etc.  I finally managed to get the rest of 
the kde and other stuff into the kmenu by copying /usr/share/applnk.kde to 
$HOME/.kde/share/applnk-mdk. 

I can't do anything with menudrake/kmenuedit.  If I open it up, it loads and 
displays entries like everything is normal but when I alter anything and save 
it, it does nothing.  Besides that, the names of directories listed in 
kmenuedit do not correspond to what are actually there.

Basically, kmenuedit is toast and useless now and I cannot seem to add any 
entries to my kmenu.  I tried to create an entry for cdrtoaster but it came 
to naught.  

This is on a Mandrake 8.0 system, not a 7.2 system.

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[expert] DrakConf doesn't work in Mandrake 8.0

2001-04-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have been trying to get cups and printing to work in Mandrake 8.0/cooker.  
No go.  I cannot connect to my cups server though it is running.  I try to 
run DrakConf to setup my printer and go from there.  No go, DrakeConf doesn't 
work AT ALL.  I get the window with the icons OK but no matter which one I 
select, when it tries to detect a printer (or mouse or whatever) it doesn't 
do anything and the xterm from which I am running DrakConf give me crap like:

[root@localhost kde]# DrakConf
Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at 
/usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 203, VERS line 1.
test 1
 1
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at 
/usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 518, VERS line 1.
 
Can't locate install_any.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/lang.pm line 428.
test 1
 2
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at 
/usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 518, VERS line 1.
 
Can't locate install_any.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/libDrakX 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/libDrakX/lang.pm line 428.

Nice.  What does it take to get printing and drakconf to work in Mandrake 8.0?
I downloaded the source rpm for DrakConf and built and installed it.  STILL 
wont work and STILL gives the above errors.  Something isn't being checked 
for during configure, it seems, when one builds DrakConf since it didn't have 
any problems building and configure found no problems.
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[expert] test - don't read

2001-04-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

test
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[expert] KDE 2.1.1 broke my setup

2001-04-10 Thread Praedor Tempus

Nice.

I upgraded to kde 2.1.1 and it broke my setup.  No Kmenu, no Kcontrol (if I 
start it, there are no modules).  I deleted my .kde directory in hopes that 
logging back in would fix all of it.  Nope, nothing.  What is the fix?  
Without the menu items, I may as well be using the most rudimentary window 
manager possible.

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[expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1

2001-04-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict?  Does 
it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes?  Are any new 
problems well offset by improvements?

I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a 
number of posts here and there about problems.

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Re: [expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1

2001-04-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

Well, I have 2.1 and aa fonts but the problem is that adobe fonts are royally 
screwed in rendering.  Windows fonts, and any fonts except Adobe MM fonts are 
real nice.  The ONLY fixed font available/allowed is an adobe font which 
doesn't display well at all.  Like all adobe fonts under QT 2.3.0 aa, the 
fonts shift upwards, screwing up alignment in any browser window that 
includes any fixed fonts mixed with other fonts.  It also makes things like 
web searches a pain because the text entered in the query window, say in 
Google, is displaced upward and partially covered/hidden by the upper limit 
of the text entry box.

If 2.1.1 somehow fixes this problem then that alone would be enough to get me 
to upgrade.

On Monday 09 April 2001 10:55, s wrote:
 For me, I don't see much difference except for the aa fonts, which in
 itself worth it to me.  But I don't see/experience too many bugs, but I
 didn't find too many before with 2.1.  So if you're coming from 2.0 or
 2.01, do it.  If you're coming from 2.1, the only advantage is aa fonts
 (and its a little work to get them to show up).
 MO,
 -s

 On Monday 09 April 2001 03:05 am, you wrote:
  For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict?
  Does it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes?  Are
  any new problems well offset by improvements?
 
  I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a
  number of posts here and there about problems.

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

Most assuredly yes.  About half the time I start the bastard up, it locks and 
I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again.

On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote:
 Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
 up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time.

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

I use konqueror for most browsing but...
Konqueror doesn't handle javascript as well as netscape does.  There are some 
sites I frequent that require javascript work to make the website useful and 
konqueror just wont do it (my M$ outlook email interface at work is one such 
page that doesn't work well in konqueror).  There are other sites that use 
flash and such that konqueror can't deal with even when the netscape flash 
plugin is available.  

For some sites, konqueror is not an option and only netscape can handle them. 
Don't know about Opera but then, I suppose it doesn't do netscape plugins 
which would rule it out for many sites.

On Friday 06 April 2001 15:11, s wrote:
 I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape
 hands down for me in stability and page loading.  And it has only improved
 in 2.1!
 By the way, a new opera version is out today.  I'm just about to install
 and try it out.
 -s

 On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
  I just wish konquerer were faster.

  ron

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't 
handle is the DRI website.  What happens:  First off, the page is misrendered 
in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the main page is 
OK).  The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other so as to be 
unreadable.  If I then go up to the View menu, then down to "set encoding" 
and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on the MANY other web 
pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of fixing the page I am on, it 
dumps me back to the main DRI page.  So, I can either browse the 
documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the 
misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages 
without any problems at all.

Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1.  I 
don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have I 
am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2.

On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote:
 I guess I just need to work with it more.  Maybe its the "blank" while
 loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded.  Then
 again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable
 java.

 --- s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat
  netscape
  hands down for me in stability and page loading.  And it has only
  improved in
  2.1!
  By the way, a new opera version is out today.  I'm just about to install
  and
  try it out.
  -s
 
  On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
   I just wish konquerer were faster.
 
   ron

 =
 ^C
 quit

 :q

 exit
 ?
 help
 shit

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page:
http://dri.sourceforge.net

For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose 
either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link.  Scroll down 
the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is screwed up. 
On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you get to XF86Config 
file section.  There should be blocks of text in that section that are 
displayed all screwy.  

Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of text 
that are screwed up.  By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that block is 
rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable.  On MOST pages that this 
happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set encoding and select 
something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and this fixes it but on these 
DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage instead.

There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support in 
the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me to 
connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL.  Changing the user 
agent to fake being IE doesn't help.

On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote:
 H.  Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often.  I haven't had a
 problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine
 out? -s

 On Friday 06 April 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote:
  One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't
  handle is the DRI website.  What happens:  First off, the page is
  misrendered in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the
  main page is OK).  The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other
  so as to be unreadable.  If I then go up to the View menu, then down to
  "set encoding" and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on
  the MANY other web pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of
  fixing the page I am on, it dumps me back to the main DRI page.  So, I
  can either browse the
  documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the
  misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages
  without any problems at all.
 
  Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1.  I
  don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have
  I am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2.
 
  On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote:
   I guess I just need to work with it more.  Maybe its the "blank" while
   loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded. 
   Then again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough
   to enable java.

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

Actually, now that I think about it, the problem may well lie with the fact 
that I have font antialiasing enabled with qt-2.3.0 in KDE.  It works well 
for most things but some fonts are totally screwed.

As for the DRI site...the package is NICE.  I have an ATI Radeon 32 DDR video 
card that I just installed with DRI in mind.  Now that I have hardware OpenGL 
3d acceleration enabled, graphics and games go VERY well.

Running the Mesa toy app "gears" from an xterm gives me an average framerate 
of 880.  With nothing else running, I have seen  1000 FPS.  Fullscreen I get 
160 fps.  Before, without hardware accel, I would get around 100 fps in 
default screen size and only about 23 fps fullscreen.  The games Heretic2 and 
Terminus look and run great.  DRI was well worth the minor effort it took to 
download and build (also had to rebuild my kernel to make it all play 
together).  If you have a decent video card with 3d accel capability other 
than an Nvidia, I highly recommend the DRI code.

On Friday 06 April 2001 20:59, s wrote:
 Oh man, I don't know how to tell you this, but mine looked good;  just as I
 imagine the author intended.  However, changing encoding did kick it back
 to home page.  I'm using a 17" monitor at 1024x768 with 12 pt. comic sans. 
 I wish I had a suggestion for you.
 Informative site tho, thanx, I've bookmarked it for future reference.
 -s

 On Friday 06 April 2001 07:47 pm, you wrote:
  Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page:
  http://dri.sourceforge.net
 
  For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose
  either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link.  Scroll
  down the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is
  screwed up. On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you
  get to XF86Config file section.  There should be blocks of text in that
  section that are displayed all screwy.
 
  Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of
  text that are screwed up.  By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that
  block is rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable.  On MOST
  pages that this happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set
  encoding and select something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and
  this fixes it but on these DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage
  instead.
 
  There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support
  in the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me
  to connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL.  Changing the
  user agent to fake being IE doesn't help.
 
  On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote:
   H.  Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often.  I haven't had a
   problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test
   mine out? -s

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Re: [expert] Cant mount Root FS

2001-03-31 Thread Praedor Tempus

My /dev/hda primary partition, like many of you no doubt, is vfat with 
windoze on it.  I have found that if I build a kernel (2.4.x) without 
including fat and vfat IN the kernel, then I get the "kernel panic, cannot 
mount root fs" message.  This has happened to me several times lately and in 
each case, I go to the filesystems portion of xconfig and see that fat and 
vfat are modules instead of built in.  I change this and all is subsequently 
well.

My drive sequencing never changes (no /dev/hda to /dev/hdsomething else).

On Saturday 31 March 2001 07:24, Don wrote:
 On Saturday 31 March 2001 09:12, you wrote:
  On Friday 30 March 2001 19:15, you wrote:
   Anyone have any ideas where I might be going wrong here:
 
 --- snip 
 
   Bob Silva
   bob @bravenet.com
 
  The 2.4 kernel was built with those awful devices in mind--the
  controllers that put disks just anywhere.  So kernel 2.4 is looking for
  /dev/hda and it has relocated /dev/hde there!  The result is that grub or
  lilo is misdirecting the kernel to a (now nonexistent) /dev/hdex root. 
  The incompatibility does not stop there--/etc/fstab has all the wrong
  mount points since they all point to /dev/hde which is now /dev/hda. 
  With a 2.4 install and running, it seems to work except for
 
  Of course it all works with windows.  This hardware was not built with
  linux in mind.
 
  Civileme

 For My dual processor board here is what the lilo.conf file looks like.
 Maybe you can get some idea from this example.  Linux smp is being run from
 hdf drive, and booted from the hde mbr partition.
[...]
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Re: [expert] WYSYWYG for latex under linux

2001-03-31 Thread Praedor Tempus

You can save files as latex from lyx (do not use klyx, it is major broken and 
no longer in development).  Also, the output of lyx is text as well.  Try it. 
Save a lyx file and then open it in a text editor.

Beyond that, I know of no WYSIWYG editor for latex.  Lyx is a "WYSIWYM" app, 
meaning that what you mean for it to look like is how it turns out and the 
image on the screen is a reasonable face to work with.


On Saturday 31 March 2001 14:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello folks;
 I am taken a latex course and after every session I am most for use this
 wonderfull text-compiler system. The course it under windows, but using
 free software.
 But my aim is to use latex under linux, nevertheless, the use of a
 WYSIWYG text editor is for me more interesting that just an old
 character editor. I know lyx and klyx in linux, but they use a
 particular file format, different of tex, I don't belive this is a good
 idea, the tex format is multiplatform, so klyx or lyx have, for me, a
 big handicap.

 I have tryed to find any open-source WYSIWYG tex editor, but I haven't
 found nothing at the moment. Do any person of the list know some one?

 Thanks a lot for your attention

 Francisco Alcaraz
 Murcia (Spain)

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[expert] what has become of mandrakeupdate?

2001-03-29 Thread Praedor Tempus

I recently downloaded the mandrakeupdate src rpm for mandrake 8.0 (cooker), 
built it and installed it.  There is no mandrakeupdate in it despite the 
name.  There is only grpmi.  In the i586 binary directory there is also 
mandrakeupdate rpm.

What has become of it?  I cannot run mandrakeupdate anymore because I am 
essentially up to 8.0 level and my last functional mandrakeupdate was from 
7.2.

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[expert] Printing problems with KDE 2.1 and cups/kups

2001-03-20 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am running KDE 2.1 with cups-1.1.6, kups-1.1-4mdk, qtcups-2.1-7mdk.  I have 
an Epson Color Stylus 600.  I can startup and testprint from kups as 
superuser/root but if I try this as a user, kups freezes up and bogs down my 
whole system  - kpm indicates in the neighborhood of 99% CPU usage.  This 
goes on indefinitely.  It also shows a process, "lpr -lpd" also consuming 99% 
of my CPU (of course, two apps cannot be both using 99% of my CPU).

The only way to unfreeze kups is to kill the "lpr -lpd" process.  If I try to 
print from any kde app (konqueror, kmail), the app will freeze up and slow my 
system down in the same way that kups does.  In no case is a printout EVER 
produced.  Also, the print job never show up in the printer queue.  Not in 
kups (which is frozen of course) nor does it show up in kups if I am running 
it as root and try to print from kmail or konqueror as a user.  If I do an 
"lpq" from the CLI as well, nothing ever appears in the queue.  I only have 
the one printer so there is only the one queue.  It only ever show a queued 
print job if I do the CLI printing of a postscript file.

As a user I CAN print from the CLI using the "lpr some postscript file" 
without any problems.  I have tried both the foomatic+stccolor, foomatic, 
foomatic + gimp-print, as well as various versions of gimp-print available to 
me in the driver list.  As root, again, I have no problem printing test pages 
from kups with these drivers, but as user...
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Re: RE: [expert] ATI Radeon - hardware acceleration

2001-03-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

I saw the announcement and now await a Mandrake src.rpm so I can build it.  
The alternative is to download the DRI stuff directly from sourceforge and 
build/install it.  I am also thinking about that.

On Monday 19 March 2001 11:58, Jim Dawson wrote:
  You can check to see if DRI is enabled in Xfree86 by

 checking your Xfree86

  config file. You should have a line that states:
  Load"DRI"
  However, I do not know if the radeon is currently

 supported for DRI. Sorry

  in that respect. Best of luck!

 I think I saw something about XFree 4.0.3 (just released a
 few days ago) supporting DRI on ATI Radeon.

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Re: [expert] Trouble Compiling 2.4.2 kernel

2001-03-18 Thread Praedor Tempus

In have built many a kernel, first using the app called "buildkernel", which 
is quite nice, and more recently the more manual way.  I have now built a 
number of 2.4.x kernels, once accidently toasting my backup original 2.2.17 
kernel, but luck was with me because my 2.4.2 builds were fine and now I only 
have hand-built kernels on my system.

Did you cd to /usr/src/linux and after doing "make xconfig" do:

"make dep  make clean  make bzImage  make install  make modules  
make modules_install" ?

Also, when you have the xmenu up and going, select no on the "Set version 
information on all modules" under the "Loadable module support" menu?

I have done this all many times without problem whatsoever.  

On Sunday 18 March 2001 03:41, you wrote:
 I am running LM8.0beta2 with kernel 2.4.2-15mdk and I get depmod errors
 when I'm trying to "make dep". What am I missing? Am I doing something
 wrong? I have had this problem with depmod errors since 2.4.2 first
 reared it's ugly head for the mdk.arch.rpm distribution. I would do a
 make mrproper but that is how I lost my kernel last time. Stupid me had
 only made and used one kernel. I am ready this time. I have a couple but
 I want to do it right this time. TIA.




[expert] cups and kde totally screwed

2001-03-18 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am running a nearly Mandrake 8.0 beta system (kernel-2.4.2, XFree86-4.0.2, 
glibc2.2) with kde 2.1, qt-2.3.0,  cups-1.1.6-14mdk, kups-1.1-4mdk and 
qtcups-2.1-7mdk. 

My problem is that I can run kups as root and printout a test page just fine. 
If I try to run kups as a user and select my one and only printer (Epson 
Stylus Color 600), then my system bogs way down and kups essentially freezes. 
If I open up kpm, it indicates that kups is using 99% of my CPU.  If I try to 
print from any kde app it fails.  There is no error message, just prolonged 
HDD activity and the app freezes up until I open up kpm and kill "lpr -dlp" 
which is using 99% of the CPU.  If I print from the CLI using "lpr some 
postscript file" I have no problem printing.

What is up with cups and/or kups?  How do I fix this? 




[expert] Any way to fix KEdit and kwrite with aa?

2001-03-17 Thread Praedor Tempus

Since going with qt 2.3.0 and antialiasing, I have had to quit using both 
kedit and kwrite.  I have also lost the ability to view text files in 
konqueror.  With the editors, if I type the text is invisable and starts out 
too high in the window so that it is actually partially underneath the menu 
bar.  Hitting return puts the cursor on a new line barely a millimeter or two 
below the previous.

Trying to view any text file via the konqueror file browser produces 
gibberish dots in place of text.  I now can only use gedit or emacs/xemacs 
for editing since the native kde 2.1 editors are no longer functional. 

I had hoped that the latest updates to kde would do something about this but 
upgrading hasn't fixed anything.  

I have downloaded the truetype fonts and the XftConfig file, and I have even 
added an .xftconfig file to my HOME$ with an added entry that I had hoped 
would fix the font display problem in kde editors and konqueror - by setting 
it up so that any Adobe font isn't antialiased.  Didn't work.

Is there ANY fix for kde and antialiasing that makes kde editors actually 
useful?




[expert] ATI Radeon - hardware acceleration

2001-03-17 Thread Praedor Tempus

I recently replaced my Matrox Mystique 220 and VoodooII card with an ATI 
Radeon 32MB DDR AGP card.  It appears to be setup properly (X works fine, I 
have nice screen resolution, bootup messages indicate the Radeon is 
recognized) but I don't seem to get hardware opengl acceleration.

I have Mesa-3.4.1 installed on a nearly MD 8.0beta system.  I have 
XFree86-4.0.2 and kernel-2.4.1.  I also have the game "Terminus" which is 
supposed to support ATI video cards in linux including the Radeon.  When I 
start it, it uses software opengl rendering.  If I use the Mesa demos, they 
are all software rendered too (shouldn't they BE ABLE to use hardware?).

I guess I need to know , 1) how do I confirm whether or not DRI is enabled in 
XFree?  Bootup indicates "acceleration enabled" which I have taken to mean 
hardware acceleration is enabled, and 2) how do I get hardware true hardware 
acceleration with my Radeon?

praedor




[expert] AA fonts and kedit or kwrite or txt files

2001-03-14 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am generally pleased with the antialiasing from qt2.3.0 in kde2.1 but I am 
having problems with kedit and kwrite that appears associated.

The problem is that the actual text in the app window is shifted upward 
beyond the menu bar at the top (the cursor resides partially under the menu 
bar) and the text is also invisable.  I can type and type and the cursor 
moves but nothing appears - this is in both kedit and kwrite.

Now for text files.  If I use konqueror to browse my home directory and 
select a text file, it opens it up in the internal konqueror viewer but the 
text is totally dicked.  Instead of text, the page renders as a bunch of 
almost random dots or speckles.  Totally unreadable.  If I open up gedit, it 
is fine and the text file is fine so this is restricted to qt and kde.

I already did the "fix" suggested in the cooker list, downloading the 
truetype font gz file and the XftConfig file.  This allows me to properly 
select arial, etc, fonts, which work very well for everything except kedit 
and kwrite and the internal konqueror text viewer.  One font that is 
impossible to select is fixed font.  It stubbornly remains Adobe Sans serif 
MM which is royally screwed.  If I knew specifically what particular font 
this was amongst those loaded on my system, I would delete it outright.  It 
is utterly useless and hideously mis-rendered.

Has anyone upgraded to qt 2.3.0 and managed to retain kedit and kwrite 
useability?  How about being able to view text files via konqueror?  If 
so...HOW DID YOU DO IT?

praedor
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Re: [expert] qt2.3 rpms for 7.2

2001-03-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

I cannot remember where the qt2-2.3.0 rpms were placed for Mandrake 7.2.  I 
could download the qt source and build it (again-I did it on my fast desktop) 
but I'd rather just go for the binaries for my rather sluggish laptop.  Where 
were they placed?

On Monday 12 March 2001 12:35, Tobias Marx wrote:
 Praedor Tempus schrieb:
   no, it should work right out of the box.
 
  I must say that my system has been totally dicked up by the switch to
  qt2-2.3.0.  This only affects kde apps.  Most of my kde app menus are
  messed up, with the menu widgets being totally screwed vs the text in
[...]totally invisable under the window border.

 there has been a thread on this topic on the cooker mailing list. you
 may have a look in the archive on
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/

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[expert] CD-RW - how do I get it working?

2001-03-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

I recently added a sony atapi cd-rw drive to my 7.2/8.0 system.  I have read 
the howto on this subject and as a result, recompiled my kernel to support 
scsi emulation and then added 'append="hde=ide-scsi"' to my lilo.conf file 
for the new kernel.  

Now, I see no evidence that the CD-RW drive is being seen as "scsi" so I 
still am unable to burn any CDs with it.

What have I missed?  This CD-RW drive is the second CDROM drive on my system. 
I still have my original atapi cdrom, which is handled as IDE by default.


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Re: [expert] CD-RW - how do I get it working?

2001-03-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

On Tuesday 13 March 2001 16:10, Larry Marshall wrote:
  Now, I see no evidence that the CD-RW drive is being seen as "scsi" so I
  still am unable to burn any CDs with it.

 Did you do:

 cd /dev  rm cdrom2  ln -s scd0 cdrom2


Hello and thank you, but something is still not right.  I have the 
append="hdd=scsi,hde=scsi" line in lilo.conf and I have created the symlink 
you list above.  Still no workie.  If I try to mount either cdrom1 or cdrom2, 
I get "mount: /dev/cdrom1: unknown device" or the same message for /dev/cdrom2


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Re: [expert] CD-RW - how do I get it working?

2001-03-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

Replying to myself...I worked it all out about 5 minutes after posting this 
message.  I have both my CDROM and CDRW now recognized as scsi and both 
cdrtoaster and xcdroast recognize them properly.  

On Tuesday 13 March 2001 21:52, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 On Tuesday 13 March 2001 16:10, Larry Marshall wrote:
   Now, I see no evidence that the CD-RW drive is being seen as "scsi" so
   I still am unable to burn any CDs with it.
 
  Did you do:
  cd /dev  rm cdrom2  ln -s scd0 cdrom2

 Hello and thank you, but something is still not right.  I have the
 append="hdd=scsi,hde=scsi" line in lilo.conf and I have created the symlink
 you list above.  Still no workie.  If I try to mount either cdrom1 or
 cdrom2, I get "mount: /dev/cdrom1: unknown device" or the same message for
 /dev/cdrom2

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[expert] Danger Will Robinson! Do NOT switch to qt2-2.3.0

2001-03-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

Mandrakites,
Do NOT switch to qt2-2.3.0 in hopes of having antialiased fonts.  It will 
completely dick up your kde usability.

The fonts DO look nice but there are side-affects that render kde 2.1 
unusable.  All my window menus are compressed or distorted to the point that 
no menu is usable.  Drakfont is unusable as the font selection window is 
compressed to the point that no font names appear in it and one cannot select 
fonts to try to correct the problems qt2-2.3.0 caused (it automagically sets 
ALL your default fonts to some proportional adobe fonts which in SOME cases 
looks really nice but the drakfont problem wont allow you to fix the problems 
this causes with konsole, menu compression and distortion.

There is a temp fix being discussed in the cooker forum but it appears that 
YMMV as to whether it fixes things or not.  I am in the process of trying to 
find out whether my menu compression problem is known to those who are 
experiencing font problems with qt 2.3.0.  I tried rebuilding kde 2.1 source 
against qt 2.3.0 in hopes that this would fix it but it hasn't (I found I 
could build ALL the kde 2.1 src rpms except for kdelib-2.1-3mdk.src.rpm, by 
the way - I had to go with cooker binary rpms to get all of kdelibs 
installed).
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Re: [expert] qt2.3 rpms for 7.2

2001-03-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

Thanks for the pointer.  I will be attempting the suggested fix (from the 
cooker list) and see how that goes.  Then I'll let ya'll know what comes of 
it.  I am hoping to be able to stick with qt-2.3.0 because the fonts really 
do look damn nice.

On Monday 12 March 2001 12:35, Tobias Marx wrote:
 Praedor Tempus schrieb:
   no, it should work right out of the box.
 
  I must say that my system has been totally dicked up by the switch to
  qt2-2.3.0.  This only affects kde apps.  Most of my kde app menus are
  messed up, with the menu widgets being totally screwed vs the text in
  them.  In some cases, the menu list (for instance, the menu header at the
  top of kmail) is completely invisable, sort of shifted up under the
  window title bar.  The To:, CC:, and Subject: windows are compressed
  upwards out of existence.  The bottom of the kmail window is also
  compressed downward and almost totally invisable under the window border.

 there has been a thread on this topic on the cooker mailing list. you
 may have a look in the archive on
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/

 bye,
 Tobias

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Re: [expert] qt2.3 rpms for 7.2

2001-03-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

On Saturday 10 March 2001 03:23, you wrote:
 Expert User schrieb:
can you post instructions/pointers about how to compile XF86 4.0.2
  with AA support for mandrake? that would be great!
 
  Do I have to compile WHOLE KDE again to get AA enabled??

 no, it should work right out of the box.

I must say that my system has been totally dicked up by the switch to 
qt2-2.3.0.  This only affects kde apps.  Most of my kde app menus are messed 
up, with the menu widgets being totally screwed vs the text in them.  In some 
cases, the menu list (for instance, the menu header at the top of kmail) is 
completely invisable, sort of shifted up under the window title bar.  The 
To:, CC:, and Subject: windows are compressed upwards out of existence.  The 
bottom of the kmail window is also compressed downward and almost totally 
invisable under the window border.

This problem exists for ALL kde apps for me.  I have been trying 
unsuccessfully to rebuild the kde src rpms with qt2-2.3.0 but with kdelibs, 
it keeps crapping out with:

+ rm -f common
+ cd /var/tmp/kdelibs-2.1-3mdk-root//usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kspell
+ rm -f common
+ ln -s /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common/ common
+ rm -f /var/tmp/kdelibs-2.1-3mdk-root//usr/include/ltdl.h
+ mv /var/tmp/kdelibs-2.1-3mdk-root//usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kspell/ 
/var/tmp/kdelibs-2.1-3mdk-root//usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kspell-base/
mv: /var/tmp/kdelibs-2.1-3mdk-root//usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kspell-base/kspell: 
cannot overwrite directory
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.62699 (%install)

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[expert] No xforms for mandrake?

2001-03-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

Downloading and trying out some of the (skimpy) statistics apps available for 
linux, I find that one package requires xforms.  Turns out, Mandrake doesn't 
supply xforms - unless it is under a totally bizarre name.

IS there an xforms package for mandrake?


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Re: [expert] How do I set up Kmail to follow links?

2001-03-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

This is an annoyance that has yet to be fixed in KDE.  For some reason, 
konqueror is not, by default, at the top of the html applnk list.  

To fix this, simply open up Control Center, go to File Browsing, go to Text, 
then to html.  In the large window you will see only Quanta listed.  You now 
hit the Add button, type in konqueror (do not select it from a the list, just 
type it in) and hit OK.  Now select konqueror in the window and hit the Move 
Up button and move it above quanta.  Hit Apply.

Now, links in kmail will work as they should and as nature intended.

On Friday 09 March 2001 03:13, Gary Bond wrote:
 When I click on a web link in Kmail I get Quanta. I
 would rather have Netscape or Konqueror. How do I
 configure this properly?

 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
 http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [expert] qt2.3 rpms for 7.2

2001-03-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

Nice!  I was going to build it myself but yours do fine.  It looks REAL nice 
to have antialiased fonts (finally).  Fortunately, I already had 
XFree86-4.0.2 built and installed...and it works just fine with qt-2.3.0 
antialiasing.


On Friday 09 March 2001 19:03, you wrote:
 I've compiled rpms of qt2.3 for Mandrake 7.2 from the cooker srpms.
 You can download them here: http://rpm.digitalprojects.com.
 They install fine, but the unsupported xfree4.02 rpms seem not to
 support antialiasing. I'm going to compile new xfree rpms from cooker
 tomorow. I hope this will help.
[...]
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Re: [expert] best video card for Linux?

2001-03-08 Thread Praedor Tempus

Matrox cards are well supported.  Voodoo cards are well supported.  ATI cards 
are well supported.  Nvidia cards are well supported but you must acquire 
drivers extraneously.  

I just ordered an ATI Radeon AGP 32MB DDR based on the fact that 
XFree86-4.0.2 now contains support for this card.  I paid $114 for this card, 
which is a pretty damn good card, based on the graphics benchmarks I've 
looked at (no one beats newer Nvidia cards but then, they are more expensive 
too).  I moderated my desire for a new, excellent graphics card vs price and 
driver support and went the way I did.  An older but excellent Matrox G400 
was a close second choice for me.


 On Wednesday 07 March 2001 02:00 pm, Jeff Malka wrote:
  My old Matrox Millennium video card just went dead on me.  Still works
  but the reds are gone and everything is blue (me too).
  I am therefore going to have to get a new video card.  What are the good
  ones to look at for Linux?
  I am running Mandrake Linux 7.1

Praedor




[expert] Problem with konqueror user agent, kde 2.1 final

2001-03-07 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am having a problem with the user agent for konqueror in kde 2.1 final.  If 
I am doing something wrong I would appreciate a notice to that effect.

I find that the user agent doesn't work for me at all.  I go to the user 
agent page in Control Center or from the settings menu item in konqueror and 
no matter what I do, I am unable to add anything to the window.  The "Add" 
button never activates.  I enter a URL and the user agent I desire for that 
page and all that I am given is the option to push the "Reset" button.  
Nothing I do will actually take.

How do I get user agent working again?  It worked fine with kde-2.1 beta 2.
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Re: [expert] PC - to - Phone

2001-03-05 Thread Praedor Tempus

I was involved in the original discussion on this topic.  Dialpad doesn't 
work as is because it pointlessly queries the user system to make sure it is 
running windows.  If it is not running windows, an error message is presented 
(even though it is strictly java - and not a perverse M$ java).

As for freewebphone, it is not a PC to phone app.  It appears to be a 
strictly web-phone package - a glorified IRC or instant messaging system that 
can connect pc to pc but not pc to phone.

On Monday 05 March 2001 05:43, KompuKit wrote:
 yes there is one for linux...go here:

 http://www.angelfire.com/biz/WebWatch/

 it's called: freewebphone

 Matthew Micene wrote:
  On Monday 05 March 2001 11:17 am, Gabriel Sandor wrote:
   Dialpad should work, as it's an java applet, and works from your web
   browser
 
  There was actually a thread on this subject on this list not too long
  ago. For various reasons, Dialpad does not work on Linux.  There is no
  current PC-to-Phone product for Linux, and I believe someone on the list
  was attempting to create a pool of people to address this issue.  Check
  the archives for the full thread
 
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[expert] Voodoo2 no longer usable with modern linux?

2001-03-05 Thread Praedor Tempus

Until recently, I have been quite happy with my obsolete but perfectly 
useable voodoo2 card.  Since upgrading to a 2.4.x kernel and XFree86-4.0.x, 
however, I find that I cannot use the card.  I have the 3dfx device driver 
source and have built it with my updated system but it doesn't work - the 
char-major-107 doesn't exist anymore.

Looking for updated drivers, there are none.  Does anyone know how to make a 
voodoo2 work with 2.4.x and XFree86-4.0.x?  The tdfx driver in the kernel 
source is not for the voodoo2.  I made the mistake of loading that module and 
then running "test3Dfx" and it totally locked up my system.  I had to hard 
reboot to get my system back.  I must say, as a side note, that I always 
select the Magic key during kernel xconfig but I have yet to find a situation 
that wrecked a running linux (like the voodoo test mentioned above) or 
various other things I have done with sound, in which that key combo is of 
any use.  I have had to hard reboot 6 times this evening because of some 
bizarro sound problem or the 3dfx problem.  


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[expert] Voodoo2 no longer usable with modern linux?

2001-03-05 Thread Praedor Tempus

Until recently, I have been quite happy with my obsolete but perfectly 
useable voodoo2 card.  Since upgrading to a 2.4.x kernel and XFree86-4.0.x, 
however, I find that I cannot use the card.  I have the 3dfx device driver 
source and have built it with my updated system but it doesn't work - the 
char-major-107 doesn't exist anymore.

Looking for updated drivers, there are none.  Does anyone know how to make a 
voodoo2 work with 2.4.x and XFree86-4.0.x?  The tdfx driver in the kernel 
source is not for the voodoo2.  I made the mistake of loading that module and 
then running "test3Dfx" and it totally locked up my system.  I had to hard 
reboot to get my system back.  I must say, as a side note, that I always 
select the Magic key during kernel xconfig but I have yet to find a situation 
that wrecked a running linux (like the voodoo test mentioned above) or 
various other things I have done with sound, in which that key combo is of 
any use.  I have had to hard reboot 6 times this evening because of some 
bizarro sound problem or the 3dfx problem.  


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Fwd: Re: [expert] qcad broken with kde 2.1

2001-03-04 Thread Praedor Tempus

Just a bit more info on the segfault...the actual message is
/usr/bin/qcad: line 3:  7006 Segmentation fault  ./qcad "$@"

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Subject: Re: [expert] qcad broken with kde 2.1
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:14:06 -0700
From: Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Qcad worked fine before but now segfaults.  I was using glibc2.1.3,
qt2-2.2.3, XFree86-4.0.1.  Now I have glibc2.2.2, qt-2.2.4, and
XFree86-4.0.2-7mdk.  There is also the glibc2.1 compat libs installed.

Qcad build just fine, without complaint, but trying to run it...sometimes I
will get the initial window asking for language and units but trying to get
past this the app segfaults every time.

On Saturday 03 March 2001 23:35, you wrote:
 aedor Tempus wrote:
  I just upgraded my Mandrake system to glibc2.2
 (with the glibc2.1 compat libs
 too), kde-2.1 final.  All built and installed
 fine, including qcad, but
  whenever I try to run it, it segfaults.
 
  The qcad version I am having problems with is

 qcad-1.4.1.

 Are you saying the "final" version of kde-2.1 is exhibiting
 this behavior with qcad now and not before?

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Re: [expert] qcad broken with kde 2.1

2001-03-04 Thread Praedor Tempus

Qcad worked fine before but now segfaults.  I was using glibc2.1.3, 
qt2-2.2.3, XFree86-4.0.1.  Now I have glibc2.2.2, qt-2.2.4, and 
XFree86-4.0.2-7mdk.  There is also the glibc2.1 compat libs installed.

Qcad build just fine, without complaint, but trying to run it...sometimes I 
will get the initial window asking for language and units but trying to get 
past this the app segfaults every time.

On Saturday 03 March 2001 23:35, you wrote:
 aedor Tempus wrote:
  I just upgraded my Mandrake system to glibc2.2
 (with the glibc2.1 compat libs
 too), kde-2.1 final.  All built and installed
 fine, including qcad, but
  whenever I try to run it, it segfaults.
 
  The qcad version I am having problems with is

 qcad-1.4.1.

 Are you saying the "final" version of kde-2.1 is exhibiting
 this behavior with qcad now and not before?
[...]
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Re: [expert]

2001-03-04 Thread Praedor Tempus

Perhaps I am misunderstanding here but don't you get the information you 
desire by using nslookup?

On Sunday 04 March 2001 09:43, you wrote:
 That's true, Mark. And you know, i'm much less of a Windows basher than i
 used to be, especially with 2000, but still i just don't want to have to
 move from one computer to the other. Plus, i would just like to know how to
 do it with my Linux box (i like being able to say to my Windows buddies
 (and to myself) that i can do _whatever_ i need to in Linux).

 j

 --- Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ip in question fell
 
   neatly into one of those blocks. HOW DID IT FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT??
   I don't want to have
 
  to
 
   consult my windows box every time i want to figure out who to send
   email to and whether to ban
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Re: [expert]

2001-03-04 Thread Praedor Tempus

What happens if you run traceroute on that ip address?  The next to last hop 
should be the nameserver or router under which your target resides.

On Saturday 03 March 2001 10:47, you wrote:
 This might be a bit off-topic (well ok it is).

 If i have the ip address of a host that has been, say, port-scanning me,
 and i want to find out what "ip block" it belongs to, how do i do that? I
 don't neccessarily mean class A, B or C. For example, i had the above
 scenario occur. I tried to find out who had authority over that ip but the
 best i could come up with was something like gt.ca. Then i wander over to
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[expert] qcad broken with kde 2.1, qt-2.2.4?

2001-03-03 Thread Praedor Tempus

I just upgraded my Mandrake system to glibc2.2 (with the glibc2.1 compat libs 
too), kde-2.1 final.  All built and installed fine, including qcad, but 
whenever I try to run it, it segfaults.  

The qcad version I am having problems with is qcad-1.4.1.


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[expert] glibc2.2 and glib2.1 compat libs

2001-03-03 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am now upgraded to glibc2.2.  I also installed the glibc2.1 compat libs 
(from Cooker) which, I believe, installs into /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/lib.  

I compiled and installed qcad-1.4 from cooker sources but trying to install 
the binary rpm, I get a dependency problem:

 failed dependencies:
libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 is needed by qcad-1.4.1-6mdk

I do a "locate libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 and get this:
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

Guess what - it is installed but qcad can't see it.  When I try to run qcad 
it segfaults (inspite of building from source without hitch).

What's up with this?  

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Re: [expert] Removing Xwindows

2001-03-02 Thread Praedor Tempus

It is not a good idea to just delete directories.  Your RPM database will 
still think all of that stuff is installed.

Startup and login to the command line (Runlevel 4?  Or is it 3?  You could 
also do a Ctrl-Alt-F2 and login there and do the the rest of this from there. 
Not sure what happens when you do a Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to your original 
X session...).

From there, do "rpm -qa |grep XFree".  You will get a list of every XFree rpm 
installed.  Do an "rpm -e XFree rpm name" for each entry.  You will most 
likely need to use the --nodeps switch too.  Anything that depends on XFree 
will be listed as dependent if you try to remove XFree without the --nodeps 
switch.  That WOULD at least tell you all the other rpms you MAY want to 
remove in addition to X since they will all be rendered unusable with the 
removal of X anyway.

On Thursday 01 March 2001 16:26, you wrote:
 Hi --

 Does anyone have a procedure for removing the entire Xwindows system and
 everything under it?  I have LM7.2, which installed X by default, but I
 don't expect to use it on this box and I'd like to remove the extra
 clutter.

 I can just remove the appropriate subdirectories, but I imagine there'd be
 trouble if I only did that.  I can reinstall, but I'd rather not...

 Thanks,

 Karl Cunningham

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Re: [expert] Removing Xwindows

2001-03-02 Thread Praedor Tempus

It is not a good idea to just delete directories.  Your RPM database will 
still think all of that stuff is installed.

Startup and login to the command line (Runlevel 4?  Or is it 3?  You could 
also do a Ctrl-Alt-F2 and login there and do the the rest of this from there. 
Not sure what happens when you do a Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to your original 
X session...).

From there, do "rpm -qa |grep XFree".  You will get a list of every XFree rpm 
installed.  Do an "rpm -e XFree rpm name" for each entry.  You will most 
likely need to use the --nodeps switch too.  Anything that depends on XFree 
will be listed as dependent if you try to remove XFree without the --nodeps 
switch.  That WOULD at least tell you all the other rpms you MAY want to 
remove in addition to X since they will all be rendered unusable with the 
removal of X anyway.

On Thursday 01 March 2001 16:26, you wrote:
 Hi --

 Does anyone have a procedure for removing the entire Xwindows system and
 everything under it?  I have LM7.2, which installed X by default, but I
 don't expect to use it on this box and I'd like to remove the extra
 clutter.

 I can just remove the appropriate subdirectories, but I imagine there'd be
 trouble if I only did that.  I can reinstall, but I'd rather not...

 Thanks,

 Karl Cunningham

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[expert] Mandrake, qt-2.2.4, and xft antialiasing of fonts

2001-03-02 Thread Praedor Tempus

So, qt 2.2.4 supports certain fonttype antialiasing.  Does anyone know if the 
Mandrake Cooker qt-2.2.4 has xft enabled by default if one compiles the src?


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[expert] KDE 2.1 final...nice, RPM-4.0?

2001-03-01 Thread Praedor Tempus

Last night I finally completed the compilation and installation of 
kde2.1-1mdk src rpms.  So far, all is working superbly.  Very nice.  One 
minor detail...when one right-clicks on the panel and gets the little menu 
which has one entry for "Settings".  Selecting this item (with the intent of 
changing panel settings) does nothing still.  It did nothing with the beta 
and does nothing now.  Does anyone have an install in which the "Settings" 
entry in the panel menu actually works?  If you do, then it would indicate a 
potential MINOR problem somewhere in my build.  It does work OK if I get the 
the panel settings via Control Center.  

I still have a question beyond that.  Coincident with building the kde2.1 
src.rpms, I also upgraded to glibc2.2 (gasp!), and all is well with it too.  
The problem I am having is in regards to RPM 4.0.  I am not impressed with 
Redhat's wisdom in producing a new RPM version that is, apparently, 
completely incompatible with the previous version.  RPM 4.0 does not 
recognize RPM 3.0.5's RPM database so if you install 4.0, you totally lose 
any information regarding what RPMs are actually installed (It would have 
been nice if Redhat had made 4.0 capable of simply importing the 3.x database 
so there could be SOME continuity between versions).

Is there a means to get 4.0 to recognize/accept the 3.x database so I don't 
get dependency problems with EVERY RPM I now try to install?  XFree is 
installed, of course, but just about any RPM I try to install now complains 
about missing dependencies regarding a host of XFree libs.  I use the 
"--nodeps" switch and all is well but this really sucks.  It is only a matter 
of time before I use the --nodeps switch on something for which I truly do 
lack the appropriate installed RPMs and I wont have a clue because it will be 
hidden amongst the long list of "missing" dependencies which really aren't 
missing.

Anyone?  Please?
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[expert] Problem with kde 2.1 final...menudrake doesn't work

2001-03-01 Thread Praedor Tempus

Menudrake is not working properly.  I have lyx, abiword, and several other 
office apps installed.  I can run them from the commandline.  I open up 
menudrake and it is listed there but when I actually look at the kmenu, NONE 
of them are there. 

I open up menudrake again, load user config...lyx, abiword, etc, are listed 
as being there.  I save it.  Still not there.  I open up the system menu.  
They are all listed there but do not show up in the real kmenu.

There appears to be no way to add them or otherwise MAKE them show up in the 
kmenu.  Menudrake is supposed to be the tool for this but it isn't working 
properly.  Anyone else run into this?

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[expert] KDE 2.1 final and rpm-4.0

2001-02-28 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am in the final portion of rebuilding kde-2.1-1mdk src rpms for my Mandrake 
7.2 (ish) system.  I am doing this after upgrading to glibc-2.2.  All is 
going well, so far as compiling and installing goes (we'll see after trying 
to restart the whole shebang afterward).  I also downloaded, built, and 
installed rpm-4.0.  

Question...did someone not too long ago indicate how one can upgrade to 
rpm-4.0?  I installed it and now it doesn't recognize any of the rpms that I 
have already installed from rpm-3.0.5.  I am having to install practically 
everything I build now with the --nodeps switch because rpm-4.0 doesn't 
recognize the fact that XFree86 rpms and various other rpms really are 
already installed.  I tried "rpm --rebuilddb" in the hopes that this would go 
somewhere towards fixing things but it didn't do squat.

How do I get rpm-4.0 to recognize/convert the previous rpm database?
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Re: [expert] New Majordomo mandrakeusers help list

2001-02-27 Thread Praedor Tempus

Do you know of any compelling reason to upgrade from 2.4.1-15 to 2.4.2?  I am 
running 2.4.1-16mdk and seem to only see a few network cards and the like 
added to the supported list in the 2.4.2 kernel.  I don't think there is any 
improvement to any of the internals, really, or am I wrong?

On Tuesday 27 February 2001 17:51, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Wed Feb 28, 2001 at 01:35:06PM +1300, Mark Derricutt wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Current Linux kernel 2.4.1-15mdk uptime: 10 days 4 hours 58 minutes.
 
  I see you're running 2.4.1-15mdk - are there any mandrake rpm's for this?
[...]
 Sure, simple answer for all your questions is:  Cooker.  The RPM came
 from cooker (at 2.4.2-3mdk now, but I haven't upgraded yet), and you
 can download ISO's of cooker with that kernel and do the install with
 it.

 Cooker works very nice for me here...



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[expert] kcontrol, html...what config file?

2001-02-25 Thread Praedor Tempus

This is driving me nuts - I have to keep adding konqueror to my file 
associations for *.html files every time I login.  

What file does kcontrol alter when one adds konqueror to the file association 
page?  I would like to add konqueror and then make the config/mimelnk file 
immutable so it will NEVER change again and so I don't have to keep doing 
this.

I am running kde2.1beta2.
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[expert] Crashing xfs with drakfont

2001-02-24 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have found a consistently workable means to reliably crash xfs using 
drakfont on my system.  All I need to do is open drakfont and select 
"actionis" and that is all it takes.  There may be other fonts that do this 
but this one is all I know of offhand.

Why is this?  What could I do to stop this?  
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Re: [expert] Kmail won't open an URL

2001-02-23 Thread Praedor Tempus

You aren't looking for something specific to kmail.  You are changing a 
setting specific to web pages (htm, html, etc) which is the important part.  
On the first page of the File browsing setup page, go to text and then to 
html.  On the first page, lower portion is a big window which contains, 
probably, "Quanta".  You want to select the add button and TYPE IN konqueror 
(do not select it from a list - actually type in konqueror and hit enter).  
It will now appear below Quanta.  Select konqueror and then the "Move Up" 
button to place it above Quanta.  Now hit "Apply".  From this point onward, 
your links in kmail to websites should work properly.

One additional thing...I suggest adding the *.asp extension to the file-type 
list at the top which contains things like *.htm, *.html, *.HTM, *.HTML.  I 
was running into a problem with SOME websites that has the *.asp extension.  
Adding this to the list of extensions on the first page fixed it - konqueror 
opens them right up.

On Thursday 22 February 2001 22:30, Ken THompson wrote:
 Hello all,
 First let me thank all of you that have posted answers to my questions in
 the past.
 My latest question is how come Kmail in KDE 2.1Beta2 will not open the
 konquerer web browser?
 I have looked into file associations and really don't see much related to
 opening a link from within Kmail. Opening a link worked just fine with
[...]
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[expert] Script to correct kde2.1 control center problem

2001-02-23 Thread Praedor Tempus

I give up.  I am writing a script to take care of this pain in the ass each 
time I login.  The script will do:

rm -rf $HOME/.kde/share/applnk/p* 
cp -Rf /usr/share/kde/applnk/* $HOME/.kde/share/applnk 
kbuildsycoca 

I have to do this because nothing I do with kde will fix this problem.  EVERY 
damn time I login after booting up my laptop, my Control Center entry in 
KMenu is dicked - moved into a bizarro directory called 
$HOME/.kde/share/applnk/p^%.  Running Control Center produces the much 
beloved blank module window, rendering the app useless.  To correct the 
problem, EVERY time I login after starting the laptop, I have to run the 
above commands to fix it.  

I am tired of doing this so I am writing the script to do it for me.  
How/where would I place this script in order to ensure that it runs whenever 
I login to my account?  

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[expert] Did it! I have netatalk and afpfs working -can mount mac volumes

2001-02-23 Thread Praedor Tempus

Finally did it.

I tinkered here and there with /etc/atalk/afpd.conf, atalk.conf, config and 
got appletalk working on my system.  My computer now shows up in the chooser 
of the networked Macs on my school network.   Better yet, I got the afpfs 
module working so I can now mount Mac volumes on my PC linux computer.

Wonderful!  At first, there seemed to be a problem...mtab was indicating that 
the Mac drive I was after actually was mounted but I couldn't see jack squat 
when I went to that mountpoint.  Ended up being a "problem" with my 
privileges on the Mac.  I gave myself read/write permission on the Mac 
(heh-heh) and that was it.  I can navigate the Mac, move files, copy, delete, 
etc, on the Mac.

One remaining problem.  I set suid on the afpmount program in hopes of 
allowing non-root users the ability to mount Mac volumes but every time I try 
to mount a Mac volume as a user, I get a message that I "probably have to be 
'root' to mount volumes".  Even when I login as superuser, I get this 
message.  So far, I have had to login to a new terminal with Ctrl-F2 as root, 
mount the volume, exit back to my user session, and THEN I can get to the 
mounted volume.

Anyone have a suggestion on fixing this?  Setting suid on the afpmount binary 
didn't help.   
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Re: [expert] Offtopic, sortof?: Apple Macs and networking

2001-02-23 Thread Praedor Tempus

I've got it all working now.  Thanks for the info.  I am now visable to the 
various Mac choosers AND with the afpfs module I can now mount Mac volumes on 
my PC and read/write to them.

This last was the main thing I was fighting with all this for.  As for the 
module, does it compile for you with the 2.4.x kernel?  I haven't looked at 
the source for the module except to make sure it pointed to the correct 
location for my kernel source.  You  build it and then need to manually 
copy/move it to the correct module directory in /lib/modules/2.4.x/.  I 
placed mine (2.2.17 kernel) in the same location that my appletalk.o module 
resides.  I suppose with the 2.4.x kernel I would try the same place.  

To load the module, I just do "insmod afpfs" and it works.

[...]
  Perhaps someone who has mixed Mac and linux networks at home or wherever
  could give afpfs a shot?  I got it at
  http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/afpfs/
 
  It DOES compile and "run" on 2.2.x kernels.  Don't know about 2.4.x
  kernels.

 I am trying to make it run on 2.4, but I think I do not have enough kernel
 knowledge to do that...

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[expert] Old problem with Control Center - seeking real fix

2001-02-22 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have kde2.1 beta 2 installed on my clean new install of Mandrake 7.2.  
EVERY time I login I find 1) that in the kmenu, my Control Center is 
transfered into an unnamed directory - if I check my .kde/share/applnk 
directory, it is called something like "p^%", and 2) it doesn't work - if I 
start it as is, it is blank with no modules.  This is the old problem that 
has come up before.  To fix it, after EVERY bootup and login, I have to 
delete the wierd "p^%" directory and then copy all the contents of 
/usr/share/applnk/ to my .kde/share/applnk/ directory and then run 
kbuildsycoca.  All this is only a temp fix since the next time I bootup and 
login, I will have to do it all over again.

I am about to write a script that does this automatically for me upon each 
login but having to do this really sucks.  What is the problem here and what 
is the REAL fix for it?  

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[expert] where is netatalk for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-02-21 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have the appletalk module, but where is netatalk?  Doesn't Mandrake 7.2 
support netatalk?  The appletalk module isn't enough.


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[expert] Damn ftpd

2001-02-21 Thread Praedor Tempus

I thought I understood this but I guess I do not.  I do NOT like having 
wu-ftpd up and running by default and I want it to DIE DIE DIE!  If I start 
up tksysv, ftpd service is not listed.  I open up linuxconf and in the 
wu-ftpd page, there isn't any setting or switch for NOT starting it by 
default (the damn thing is on by default - Hello?  SECURITY VIOLATION.).  I 
did select the "Stop" button but then when I tried an ftp connection, inspite 
of my having hit the "Stop" button in linuxconf, I get a connection.  If I 
start up a process manager, I see nothing there indicating that it is running 
- but it obviously is.

How does one set up the system NOT to start the wu-ftp daemon at startup?  
There isn't anything for this in webmin either.  It just assumes you want it 
running, I guess.

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[expert] cups/kups will not print postscript

2001-02-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have found that I cannot print postscript pages with cups.  I can print the 
basic testpage but if I try to print ANY *.ps file, it appears in the jobs 
window of kups, sits there for a few seconds, then goes away with nothing 
happening.  

If I start kups from a CLI, what I get corresponding to this failure is:

kups: KRecentDocument::add for /usr/share/apps/kups/testprint.ps
kups: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
  Major opcode:  42
DCOP:  unregister 'anonymous-25820'
DCOP: number of clients is now down to 0
kio (kioslave): slavewrapper: Communication with app lost. Returning to slave 
pool.

I have tried upgrading cups, restarting cups, upgrading ghostscript...nothing 
works.  

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Re: [expert] cups/kups will not print postscript

2001-02-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

Replying to myself, about 5 minutes after posting this, I fixed the problem.  
I deleted my printer and then reinstalled it using printerdrake.  I then 
selected the Foomatic+Gimp-print driver for my Epson Color Stylus 600.  Now 
all is well and everything prints as it should.


On Monday 19 February 2001 15:48, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 I have found that I cannot print postscript pages with cups.  I can print
 the basic testpage but if I try to print ANY *.ps file, it appears in the
 jobs window of kups, sits there for a few seconds, then goes away with
 nothing happening.

 If I start kups from a CLI, what I get corresponding to this failure is:

 kups: KRecentDocument::add for /usr/share/apps/kups/testprint.ps
 kups: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter
 attributes) 8 Major opcode:  42
 DCOP:  unregister 'anonymous-25820'
 DCOP: number of clients is now down to 0
 kio (kioslave): slavewrapper: Communication with app lost. Returning to
 slave pool.

 I have tried upgrading cups, restarting cups, upgrading
 ghostscript...nothing works.

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Re: [expert] KOffice very buggy - anyone else having problems?

2001-02-18 Thread Praedor Tempus

I gave up on the kword part of koffice a while ago and went to lyx (klyx is 
REALLY broken).  In any case, if you need to do a lot of citing of sources in 
your documents, lyx is better anyway since it is the ONLY "wordprocessor" for 
linux that supports automatic citation and bibliography generation ala 
bibtex, pybliographic or sixpack.  For windoze users, they have EndNote which 
works with Word and Wordperfect.  No such beast for linux and there isn't one 
built into koffice (there SHOULD be).

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Re: [expert] Offtopic (a bit): Me thinks I am a sucker - net 2 phone redux

2001-02-16 Thread Praedor Tempus

Well, the codec is supported in the card (those that are not 
propriatory/closed/require licensing) but then, net2phone and dialpad take 
care of that for you.  You use their software app and make your calls, they 
take care of everything else on their end.  

With these cards, they can handle the codecs locally but they STILL require 
an IP-to-PSTN gateway be located somewhere.  Again, net2phone and dialpad 
provide this for their users but having one of these cards does not mean you 
can use their gateways, or anyone else's for that matter.  There are none, 
really, that a linux user could make use of.  It may well be the case that 
there are projects along this line here or there, but that is the same as 
saying fusion power is being worked on.  ONE day it may get here, but don't 
hold your breath.

The advertising on the Quicknet website is misleading, and I guess I wanted 
to warn people of this.  You cannot get one of their cards and make 
PC-to-phone calls inspite of what their page says.  It is THEORETICALLY 
possible but in practice it just cannot be done because the other services 
required to make this work do not exist.  What you CAN do is make PC-to-PC 
calls (big deal).  You are merely doing a audible instant messaging in this 
case.  

Anyway, if a hacked app were produced that would work ala net2phone or 
dialpad's broken java app with their respective services, you get the 
PC-to-phone capability, do not need to spend money on a very specialized card 
and can just make use of any decent, modern soundcard, and make longdistance 
calls over the internet.  

I was rather hoping that someone HERE would prove me wrong in my critique of 
the Quicknet hardware and tell me that you CAN set it up, not theoretically 
but REALLY, to make PC-to-phonecalls.  See, I am also a member of the 
quicknet linux-drivers mailing list.  These people are great to help you get 
your card driver downloaded and compiled, but big deal, you have a 
driver...what do you do now?  Well, I asked about gateways and setting the 
card/config files up for using them.  No answer.  THEY know of no real, 
extant way to do this now.  Not a single soul provided any information about 
any gateway anywhere that could be used.  The best I got was a suggestion to 
read the openh323 pages because this person thought they saw something there 
about projects along this line.  Well I DID read the pages and if you follow 
an octopus of links hither and yon, you will read all about the potential use 
of internet telephony, may even get links to net2phone and dialpad and the 
like, but not a single link on gateways that can be used with linux, sans 
propriatory software, with your shiny new pricey Quicknet card.



On Friday 16 February 2001 08:11, Rusty Carruth you wrote:
 "Praedor Tempus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, I think I was suckered.
 
  ...
  Quicknet hardware are all very specialized bits of equipment with no real
  benefit over of decent soundcard which most people already own if they
  own a computer.  The equipment are merely glorified modem/soundcards,

 Have you considered the codec?  I forget if the codec is part of the card
 hardware or not (I have access to the phone card and the line jack both,
 but its been a while since i played with them).  If its part of the
 hardware then there is one (smallish) thing you get out of the card you
 don't get with a sound card...

 rc


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[expert] Suggestion for konqueror

2001-02-16 Thread Praedor Tempus

I would like to suggest that konqueror be modified so that when one clicks on 
the "Open location" menu item, the dialog box that comes up NOT contain the 
present address. If one is opening up the "Open location" window, it is 
almost assured that the individual is NOT wanting to open the location they 
are presently already viewing.  

Please, have it open up without anything in the location window.  Let the 
individual type in the location they desire rather than have to erase what is 
in it and then type in their new location.

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[expert] Old question - repeat problem

2001-02-15 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, a while back there was some questions concerning KDM showing all the 
system services as users in the KDM window for login.  

I just had to rebuild my system after a disaster and now have installed KDE 
2.1-0.20010122.2mdk rpms.  After doing this, I now have all the services in 
KDM again and cannot recall how to eliminate them.

Anyone?
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[expert] 3Com cards and network problems

2001-02-15 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have been having this problem for a long time but it seems worse now that I 
have recently built a new 2.4.1 kernel and started using it.

I have a 3Com 900B netcard.  With earlier Mandrake releases, my system 
insisted on using 3c59x and this seemed to work.  I am now using 3c90x 
because 3c59x no longer works, but even 3c90x barely works.

The problem before and now is that during bootup, when it gets to 
initializing eth0 using dhcpcd, there is an innordinant delay of something 
like 45 seconds to a minute or so followed, usually (now) with a [Failed] and 
then a continuation of the bootup process.  That is with my present 2.4.1 
kernel.  Previously, with a 2.2.17-21mdk kernel, the delay was there but it 
usually ended with success, but the delay is unacceptable.

I have tried, with both 2.2.17 and 2.4.x kernels, to compile the 3c59x driver 
into the kernel or build it as a module.  I have done the same thing with the 
3c90x driver.  In neither case does it work as it should.  If I build it into 
the kernel, instead of a long delay, it is and INSTANTANEOUS failure, 
regardless of which driver I try.  As a module, it takes forever for dhcpcd 
to fail and bootup to continue.

After bootup, I end up having to manually run "ifup eth0" multiple times, and 
each time I need to immediately begin doing something like browse the web or 
download mail or ping a target in order to help dhcpcd succeed.  If I do NOT 
do one or more of these things, dhcp (or pump) invariably fails to assign an 
IP address.  Before it ends with [Failed] and while I am waiting, I have full 
network connectivity.  Only upon the appearance of [Failed] do I lose it.  In 
general it takes me about 3 tries for dhcpcp to be successful in assigning an 
IP address.

What is up with this?  I had thought that 3com cards were among THE most well 
supported cards in the linux world.  With my problems (the card is fine and 
it is ONLY a linux problem since if I boot up to windoze, there is no problem 
at all) and the others that appear in this list from others, I am beginning 
to think that the 3com card is a DAWG and best placed in the trash.

What is the deal here?  How do I fix this?  What settings for the card could 
I try (and how)?

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[expert] Offtopic (a bit): Me thinks I am a sucker - net 2 phone redux

2001-02-15 Thread Praedor Tempus

Well, I think I was suckered.

After starting the conversation on the list about internet telephony, hoping 
to find some software that would allow linux users to make PC to phone calls 
like windoze users with dialpad or net2phone, I heard about Quicknet and 
their telephony cards.  Their website advertises the stuff as great for 
PC-to-PC, PC-to-phone, and phone-to-PC calls.

Not true.  In THEORY, apparently, the cards could be used for this stuff if 
you are running linux, but in reality one cannot.  Why? There are no 
IP-to-phone gateways available that a linux-user could use.  I imagine a 
windoze user would have no problems but not a linux user.

I got stupid and spent money I would otherwise used to buy a good video card 
and instead bought a PhoneCARD for my laptop.  I had imagined that it with it 
I would be able to make phonecalls to my wife, parents, friends, etc, 
regardless of where I was (I am a military reservist).  Not so.  It is EASY 
to make PC-to-PC calls (if you can get the ALPHA-level linux driver to 
compile), so long as the target computer has a device or software listening 
for such things.  To me this is merely glorified Instant Messaging or IRC, 
neither of which I have any interest or use for.  I wanted to CALL people 
from my PC to their PHONE, not their frickin' PC.  Hell, my parents, 
friend's, etc, have dialup accounts (if they have computers at all) and their 
computers aren't on but a few hours a day.  Their phone is ALWAYS ready to 
work.

Thus, it appears that I wasted good money on a gimmicky toy.  A glorified IM 
device that would have been better spent on an NVIDIA graphics card.

Thus to the real point...this reinforces the need for an app that will work 
with net2phone or dialpad servers and allow PC-to-phone calls.  These 
services are WINDOZE-ONLY, for no good reason, with dialpad being the WORST 
offender since they used an open, platform-independent language (JAVA) and 
planted a check within it that refuses to work if you are using ANYTHING but 
a win32 system of some kind.  What bullcrap!  It's frickin' JAVA, damnit!  
That kind of restriction is unnecessary, gratuitous, and stupid.

Quicknet hardware are all very specialized bits of equipment with no real 
benefit over of decent soundcard which most people already own if they own a 
computer.  The equipment are merely glorified modem/soundcards, the soundcard 
part being very primitive and low quality vs say, a Sounblaster Live card.  
Its only real purpose is to allow netmeetings or other PC-to-PC 
communications, which might be fine for a group of businesspeople, but for 
Joe and Jane Blow, its useless and extravagant.  A decent soundcard that has 
full duplex capability will serve better than a Quicknet card - and provide 
music, soundf/x, etc, on top of that.

I just want to finish with strong encouragement to the coders among you to 
hack a software package that will permit normal users to make use of the 
perfectly fine service that is already available to windoze users (NOT for 
linux users OR Mac users) provided by net2phone and/or dialpad.  We already 
have the guts of the dialpad applet and hopefully soon a linux-friendly 
applet will appear.  Perhaps someone could reverse engineer the net2phone app 
and do linux and Mac users a favor and release a client app that will permit 
them to use the net2phone service as well.

In the meantime, I will be returning my PhoneCARD and getting a proper piece 
of hardware:  a good video card.  

Unless you are REALLY into internet chat, instant messaging, and get a thrill 
talking into your PC to someone on their PC, then do not spend money on 
Quicknet cards.  Incidently, I did finally manage to get their driver to 
build but it took me a while to point out the errors in their instructions at 
various levels, and their sourcecode, before it was buildable on a Mandrake 
system.  You have to jump through a lot of flaming hoops to get the cards to 
work, and then the end is not really worth the journey.

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[expert] /usr wont unmount during shutdown

2001-02-14 Thread Praedor Tempus

Recently, whenever I shutdown my laptop I get to the point where everything 
is being unmounted when it craps out with an error about /usr being busy and 
being unable to unmount it.  Ultimately, I end up having to just hit the 
power switch because nothing else I do (not even logging in another session 
as root and trying to unmount it manually) will unmount it.  

As a result, every time I start it up again, it has to do the harddrive check 
which slows down bootup a lot.  What the hell is the problem?  Any ideas?

I haven't done anything to my system, just all of a sudden, /usr wont unmount.
This laptop has 1 hdd in it and no other partition has problems.  


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Re: [expert] upgrading from kernel 2.2 to 2.4 now having module problems...

2001-02-13 Thread Praedor Tempus

I just built the 2.4.1-9mdk kernel from cooker, installed it, and now all 
seems fine. 

The first time I built it, I did it specifically for my athlon/k7.  I had 
module problems up the ying-yang.  I don't know if this was the fix, but I 
tried again, this time just doing it for 5x86,6x86.  I also built and 
installed the new modutils-2.4 from cooker (I am building it all so it will 
work with my glibc2.1 - I'm not touching glibc2.2 for a LOOONG time, it will 
wreck everything and I don't want to deal with it yet).

On Tuesday 13 February 2001 12:20, John MacCallum wrote:
 On 2/12/01 12:04 PM, "Alan Carpenter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I upgraded my kernel from 2.2 to 2.4.  Using the cooker rpm sets.  I
  installed the kernel,docs,headers, and utils rpms.  When I boot into
  gnome, and checked out my soundconfig in hard drake I get an error "mod
  probe: no pnp-isa".  It see's my soundcard though.  It's a sb awe64.  It
  worked before the upgrade.  Is there something I am missing???  Please
  help =).  Would a conflict when installing the headers have anything to
  do with it??? Thanks so much
 
  
  Alan Carpenter
  PC Specialist
  Department of Computer Services
  Virginia Wesleyan College
  1584 Wesleyan Dr.
  Norfolk Va. 23502
  Office (757)455.3267
  Cell (757)449.0381

 Alan,

 Did you find a solution?  I'm in EXACTLY the same situation and am beyond
 frustrated!  If you could pass along any info, it would be greatly
 appreciated.

 Thanks,
 John

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[expert] kernel-2.4.1-*mdk doesn't like Athlon?

2001-02-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

After 6 attempts, combined, building the kernel-source-2.4.1-8mdk and then 
2.4.1-9mdk, I keep running into the same problem.  It builds fine, it 
installs fine, it boots fine, but I am unable to use my net card and my 
parallel port zip drive, both of which work perfectly under  2.2.17-21mdk.

I have an Athlon so I have been building the kernels for an Athlon/K7.  I am 
beginning to wonder if there is a problem in the optimization code for this 
processor.  When I try to load my 3com card's module (3c59x.o), I get this 
string of error messages:
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol 
_mmx_memcpy
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c59x.o: insmod 3c59x failed

When I try to load the ppa module for my zip drive, I get:
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o: unresolved symbol 
_mmx_memcpy
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o: insmod ppa failed

In both cases, the first of the errors is regarding mmx_memcpy.  This is 
making me think that the problem may be in the CPU-specific optimization 
code.  Can anyone offer another idea?  A way to get these things working?  

If I run depmod -a after bootup with the 2.4.1 kernel, I get a LOT of errors, 
but fortunately most of the modules listed are irrelevant to me right now.
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Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.1-*mdk doesn't like Athlon?

2001-02-12 Thread Praedor Tempus

Hmpf.  Replying to my own message with a correction.  I redid my kernel, this 
time with just 5x86, 6x86 as the architecture.  At the end of it all, the 
3c59x module and the ppa module still refused to work, as below.  I then 
tried something else for the hell of it.  I did a "modprobe 3c90x" and it 
installed.  I then did an "ifup eth0" and viola!  Network connectivity!  My 
card is a 3c900B card but up to this moment, I have had to use the 3c59x 
module because 3c90x didn't work.  Now things appear reversed.  

So that problem is resolved and had nothing to do with Athlon vs i386 CPU 
architecture.  I still can't use my parallel zip drive.  Anyone have a 
fix/answer for that?

On Monday 12 February 2001 08:38, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 After 6 attempts, combined, building the kernel-source-2.4.1-8mdk and then
 2.4.1-9mdk, I keep running into the same problem.  It builds fine, it
 installs fine, it boots fine, but I am unable to use my net card and my
 parallel port zip drive, both of which work perfectly under  2.2.17-21mdk.

 I have an Athlon so I have been building the kernels for an Athlon/K7.  I
 am beginning to wonder if there is a problem in the optimization code for
[...]
 When I try to load the ppa module for my zip drive, I get:
 /lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o: unresolved symbol
 _mmx_memcpy
 /lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o: insmod
 /lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.1-9mdk/kernel/drivers/scsi/scsi_mod.o: insmod ppa failed
[...]
 If I run depmod -a after bootup with the 2.4.1 kernel, I get a LOT of
 errors, but fortunately most of the modules listed are irrelevant to me
 right now.

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[expert] kernel 2.4.1 and 3com 900

2001-02-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

Well...

I have run into a problem with kernel 2.4.1 and my own 3com 900B card.  With 
my present 2.2.17-21mdk kernel, it works, after a fashion (it takes FOREVER 
for the card to get assigned an IP address during bootup via either pump or 
dhcpcd).  

I downloaded and built the mandrake cooker 2.4.1-9mdk kernel source and all 
went very well.  It built, I installed it, I booted it up.  No problems with 
that except no sound and, more critically, my 3com card doesn't work.  In 
this case, instead of a module I went with building it into the kernel.  Upon 
bootup, I see that it is recognized and given an irq, but when dhcpcd comes 
up to assign an IP, it immediately fails and bootup continues.  I supposed 
this is an improvement of sorts, having such a rapid bootup, but at the cost 
of no network connectivity.  

If I run "ifup eth0" as root after bootup, it immediately fails too.  In the 
past, when I've built kernels and compiled the 900 driver into the kernel, I 
had no problems (various 2.2.x kernels).  Anyone have any ideas?  It isn't 
ideal, my present situation with my 3c900 and a 2.2.17 kernel, since it takes 
forever to get an IP but it works.  Why the problem with 2.4.1?
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Re: [expert] Cooker kernel-2.4.1-8mdk...anyone?

2001-02-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

Nothing but problems for me so far.
I downloaded the 2.4.1-9mdk kernel and built that.  It built fine, installed 
fine, etc.  I can even boot it up but my ethernet card doesn't work with it, 
even when I compile the driver into the kernel (3c900 card).  During bootup, 
there is a message indicating that it is being assigned an IRQ, what it is, 
whole frame transfers, etc.  What doesn't happen is getting an IP address.  
After bootup, if I run "ifup eth0" it immediately says [Failed] without the 
slightest hesitation.

I also build the ppa module for my zip drive.  With the 2.2.17 kernel, it is 
fine and mounts but it simply doesn't recognize the zip drive with the 2.4.1 
kernel.  I get error messages concerning /dev/sda4.  Did the dev naming 
convention for the parallel port zip drive change with the new kernel?  Is it 
no longer /dev/sda4?

I am now attempting my 4th build of the 2.4.1-9mdk kernel source.  The last 
one, unlike all the others, functioned as if it was on a system with 8 megs 
of RAM instead of 128 MB.  INCREDIBLY slow - all the other builds I've tried 
have booted and  run VERY quickly.

On Friday 09 February 2001 20:19, Altoine B. wrote:
 Praedor Tempus wrote:
  Is anyone running the kernel-2.4.1 kernel from Cooker?  I am thinking
  about building it for my Mandrake 7.2 system - if it is essentially OK.
 
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 Yes, I have did and done Cooker source RPMs for kernels for over six
 months! I highly recommend trying the new mdk 2.4.1 or 2.4.2 versions.

 -- Al

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[expert] Is there something wrong with this sequence?

2001-02-11 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am now trying my 5th compile of kernel-2.4.1-9mdk source.  I have been able 
to boot fine but cannot use my 3c900 card, even with the driver compiled into 
the kernel (I am back to modular now).  I simply do this:

1. make xconfig
2. make dep
3. make clean
4. nohup make bzImage 
5. make modules
6. make modules_install
7. make install

I have also tried the above but replacing #7 with "cp bzImage 
/boot/linux-2.4.1-9mdk"

Same results.

I edit my lilo.conf, run lilo, and boot the new kernel.  No ethernet 
function, even with the damn driver builtin.  I once did an "ifconfig eth0 
up" and that got the card recognized so that when I ran just "ifconfig" it 
showed up, mac address and all.  But running "ifup eth0" failed immediately.
I don't get it.
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Re: [expert] Damnit...font problem from hell

2001-02-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have found that if I start drakfont and select "actionis" this kills the 
fontserver and produces a message on the xterm:

Gdk-WARNING **: Creating pixmap from xpm with NULL window and colormap

After this, I have to do a "/etc/init.d/xfs start" to get the font server 
going again.  

To remove fonts in drakfont, I have to select them and choose "remove" but 
doing this will kill the app and the system font server.  How do I dump all 
these fonts and then start over with drakfont and get the windows ttf fonts 
again?

On Thursday 08 February 2001 21:17, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 I don't understand this.  A problem is repeating itself.

 I have XFree86-4.0.2 installed and running on a Mandrake 7.2 system,
 kernel-2.2.17-21mdk, KDE 2.1beta2 (20010122).  Every time I try to run a
 windoze app with wine, it goes through a mess of font messages:
[...]
 etc, etc.  This crap goes on and on forever and ever.  Then, at some point
 in this mess the fontserver dies and I am no longer able to open ANY X apps
 (KDE, gnome, X, whatever...no apps will start because X cannot find font
 'fixed'.

 I already have a terminal open when this happens so it keeps working.  I go
 to superuser and do a "/etc/init.d/xfs start" and this fixes everything.  I
 am able to use X and all apps without difficulty.
[...]

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[expert] Embarrassingly basic question

2001-02-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

OK, I am tired of my computers being each named localhost.localdomain with 
the alias of localhost.  I have tried, in the past, to change the alias to 
something I like but this has been all but useless since it doesn't change 
anything, like the KDM system name or how the name appears on the network.  

Is there some special rules to follow in renaming one's computer?  Can one 
who has a dynamic ip name their computer in such a way to be friendly with 
the appropriate network?

My desktop is always connected to uswest via my DSL line.  I once even tried 
naming the computer somename.uswest.net.  This was disliked.  I have even 
tried changing the alias, which does little...when I login, I get 
localhost.localdomain and the alias is nowhere to be seen.  

My laptop gets connected to both my uswest ISP when it is at home or to my 
university network when at work.  That is 2 dynamic ip assigning networks so 
especially for my laptop I wonder if there is some naming convention that 
will work nicely regardless of the network it is connected to.

Anyone?


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Re: [expert] 3com cards and 7.2

2001-02-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

I too have the 3c905C.  My problem is not that it doesn't work, it does 
(after a fashion).  The problem I have is that during bootup, when dhcpcd 
sets out to acquire an IP for my computer, it takes FOREVER.  It eventually 
gets around to it and bootup continues and my connection is fine (and the 
proper module is loaded for the card).

This didn't happen after the inital 7.2 install - getting an IP during bootup 
happened almost immediately.  Later, I built my own kernels, as I am wont to 
do, and I select the proper 3c90x vortex/boomerang module during xconfig.  
This is apparently repeatable - after the initial install (which I have done 
multiple times in the past due to occasionally REALLY screwing my system up 
and finding it easier just to reinstall and go from there) all is well and I 
get an IP address almost immediately.  After building a kernel, however, even 
if I do not end up using it, appears to dick it up so that during the bootup, 
even though the module is identical, SLOW IP acquisition.

I am not using the kernels I have built myself right now and am back to the 
2.2.17-21mdk kernel (and ITS modules), but the situation remains.

How can I fix this?  What settings for the card might I mess with to get 
things rolling so that getting an IP is almost immediate.  The only thing I 
an think that could be different is some card/network setting is slightly 
altered from the default when a new kernel is built and installed.

I use dhcpcd-1.3.18pl3-4mdk, have a DSL connection through a Cisco 675 
modem/router.  

On Friday 09 February 2001 16:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
 My brother has a 3c905B and I have a 3c905C.  We are both using the
 3C59x driver that mdk 7.2 auto selects and neither of us have had any
 problems in 100baseTX full duplex mode under mdk 7.2.

 My brother did once have a problem with very slow x-fer rates under an
 earlier version of Mandrake when he once switched the card from a
 100baseTX switched port to a 10baseT port on a hub on the same (logical)
 subnet without bringing the machine or even the interface down.  To the
 best that I could figure it looked as though the card had automatically
 switched down to 10baseT, but stayed in full duplex mode.
[...]

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[expert] Cooker kernel-2.4.1-8mdk...anyone?

2001-02-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

Is anyone running the kernel-2.4.1 kernel from Cooker?  I am thinking about 
building it for my Mandrake 7.2 system - if it is essentially OK.  


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[expert] Laptop will NOT unmount /usr during shutdown

2001-02-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

Recently (like, starting today), my laptop running Mandrake 7.2 will not 
unmount my /usr mountpoint/partition during shutdown.  I get a message about 
/usr being busy.  Huh?  Busy doing what?  

What could be the problem here?  It is almost full, but there is still some 
wiggle room and it doesn't complain during usage at all.  

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[expert] Damnit...font problem from hell

2001-02-08 Thread Praedor Tempus

I don't understand this.  A problem is repeating itself.

I have XFree86-4.0.2 installed and running on a Mandrake 7.2 system, 
kernel-2.2.17-21mdk, KDE 2.1beta2 (20010122).  Every time I try to run a 
windoze app with wine, it goes through a mess of font messages:

Building font metrics. This may take some time...
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like 
'-daewoo-gothic-medium-r-normal--16-120-100-100-c-160-ksc5601.1987-0' are not 
working correctly now.
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like 
'-daewoo-mincho-medium-r-normal--16-120-100-100-c-160-ksc5601.1987-0' are not 
working correctly now.
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like 
'-daewoo-mincho-medium-r-normal--24-170-100-100-c-240-ksc5601.1987-0' are not 
working correctly now.
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-fangsong 
ti-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0' are not working 
correctly now.
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-song 
ti-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-160-gb2312.1980-0' are not working 
correctly now.
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo DBCS fonts like '-isas-song 
ti-medium-r-normal--24-240-72-72-c-240-gb2312.1980-0' are not working 
correctly now.
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu arabic 
extra-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-p-103-fontspecific-0' has unknown 
registry 'fontspecific' and character encoding '0'
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-mutt-clearlyu 
ligature-medium-r-normal--17-120-100-100-p-141-fontspecific-0' has unknown 
registry 'fontspecific' and character encoding '0'
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look 
cursor-12-120-75-75-p-160-sunolcursor-1' has unknown registry 
'sunolcursor' and character encoding '1'
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look 
glyph-10-100-75-75-p-101-sunolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' 
and character encoding '1'
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look 
glyph-12-120-75-75-p-113-sunolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' 
and character encoding '1'
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look 
glyph-14-140-75-75-p-128-sunolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' 
and character encoding '1'
fixme:font:LFD_InitFontInfo font '-sun-open look 
glyph-19-190-75-75-p-154-sunolglyph-1' has unknown registry 'sunolglyph' 
and character encoding '1'

etc, etc.  This crap goes on and on forever and ever.  Then, at some point in 
this mess the fontserver dies and I am no longer able to open ANY X apps 
(KDE, gnome, X, whatever...no apps will start because X cannot find font 
'fixed'.

I already have a terminal open when this happens so it keeps working.  I go 
to superuser and do a "/etc/init.d/xfs start" and this fixes everything.  I 
am able to use X and all apps without difficulty. 

WHAT IS THIS GODDAMN 'fixed' FONT THAT X NEVER FINDS?!!!  What the hell is it 
with X that JUST because it can't find ONE font type, it totally dies instead 
of just going with whatever other useful font is on the system.   Here is the 
output of 'chkfontpath':

Current directories in font path:
1: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
2: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
3: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
4: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
5: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msttfonts
6: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
7: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk
8: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont
9: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled
10: /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1
11: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western
12: /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives

As far as I can tell using drakfont, there is NOTHING wrong with my fonts.  
NOTHING I TELL YOU!  What do I need to do to make #$!@!!!#$)*!@ X work with 
the perfectly fine fonts on my system?  What is it about running any windoze 
app in wine that wrecks the train?




Re: [expert] quick security question.

2001-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus

One thing about nmap... depending on the scan type, it will show you a port 
number, protocol, it's state and then give a name for a common service that 
uses that port.  It doesn't mean that the port is actually making use of that 
port. 

So, if nmap gets a response during it's scan from port 31337, then it will 
provide you with the above information and provide a name for some service 
that COULD use that port.  It doesn't mean that it IS using that port.

I did a scan of my local school network last year with nmap.  On just about 
every windoze box it detected, it indicated port "31337/tcp open 
Backorifice".  I notified the school IT guys and they looked into it and I 
also asked Fyoder (the maintainer/creator of nmap) about it.  He indicates 
essentially what I said.  If a port gives some sort of nmap-understandable 
reply, then nmap will identify the port and give you the name of a service 
that may use that port.

If I have port 21 open on my system, even if I am NOT running an ftp server, 
and scan it with nmap, it will list "ftp" as the service associated with that 
port.

In any case, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that someone would have hacked into 
your friend's system so soon after an install and setup.  The attacker would 
first need reconnoiter the system and then, perhaps, run a few apps/scripts 
(a script kiddie activity) that exploit commonly known vulnerabilities.  Once 
in, the kiddie then uploads some files, etc.  This takes at least SOME time.  

What sort of connection does this system use?  DHCP on DSL?  Static IP on 
DSL? Phone?  Connected via a LAN?  

On Wednesday 07 February 2001 10:08, dany allard you wrote:
  A friend of mine just setup his firewall with a striped down version of
 Mandrake 7.2 using rc.firewall.

   The strange thing is that when I scan the machine (nmap) I see the
 following port open.

 31337/tcp  filteredElite

  The only use I know for that port is for back doors.
[...]

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Re: [expert] quick security question.

2001-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus

It is not any problem being sure.  Having a cable modem connection does make 
you more vulnerable than, perhaps, using a DSL.  Does he have a dynamic IP or 
static?

How long WAS the system up before the firewall was built?

Remember, you may not actually be running any service on that port, and your 
firewall is filtering the port, as indicated by nmap.  Even if you are not 
running any service on a given port detected by nmap, nmap will simply 
provide a name of a service that commonly uses that port.  That initially 
confused me when I first began using nmap.  I thought if it said 
"Backorifice" on port 31337, that meant that Backorifice was installed and 
running on that port.  That is not what it meant.  It meant that port 31337 
was often used by Backorifice.  

Having detected that port with nmap, I could then run a program (backorifice, 
for instance) and see if that port was listening and active.  In the case 
where nmap showed all the windoze boxes with Backorifice on port 31337, not a 
one of them had it actually installed and running (it is more than just a 
hacker tool, it can be used as a remote administration tool like PCAnywhere, 
only it is free).  It is merely a heads up/give you information kind of thing 
that nmap does.  

On Wednesday 07 February 2001 11:23, dany allard you wrote:
 Praedor

 Thanks for the quick reply

 The machines is using @home (cable modem connection).
[...]
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Re: [expert] Network address request

2001-02-07 Thread Praedor Tempus

Offhand I do not know the ping command for that but it is trivial with nmap.
You could run "nmap -sP 230.100.133.0-255" for instance, to do a ping scan of 
the entire 230.100.133.X class C (?) network.

The output is a list of all the detected systems, mostly as simple IP 
addresses in my local case, with a few system names for those computers with 
static IPs and netbios names.  Since nmap uses ping in this case, there is 
obviously a command string that will do it from ping itself.  Anyone?

On Wednesday 07 February 2001 10:56, Ken Thompson you wrote:
 Is there a way to ask ping (or whatever) to return a list of addresses on
 your network?
 Example: M$ "find computer" in Network Neighborhood returns a list of
 systems on the network. I'd like to do the same from either a GUI or
 command line interface from my linux boxn...

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Re: [expert] A quicknet linejack price

2001-02-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

I am considering it however, it is merely on my list.  At the top of that 
list is a new videocard.  

I wouldn't mind using CPU cycles for this rather than a dedicated card, at 
least for a while.  I do not make that many longdistance calls.  I do travel 
some and it would be nice to always be nothing more than a local call away 
from my wife or other family members.  Thus, if I wanted to really use the 
card for my purposes, I would need a pcmcia version for my laptop AND the pci 
card for my desktop.  Thus, I prefer a cheap and transportable solution 
(software solution).

On Monday 05 February 2001 23:10, Traci Collins wrote:
 Praedor Tempus wrote:
  A quicknet linejack PCI audio telephony card runs $160.
 
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 They do have Linux drivers and discounted Linux developer prices
 however. If my money is going to disappear in someone's pocket it seems
 like a much nicer sort of pocket to put it into.

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Re: [expert] My last word on Linux Telephony

2001-02-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

I built it all last night on my celeron 333 laptop with 96MB ram.  It did 
take a while but it wasn't bad and it did all build without incident.  The 
damn libs are huge, however.  Space was already a premium and moving the libs 
to /usr/local/lib/pwlib consumed all my remaining hdd space (except for a 
paltry 60 k).  

If you happen to know...after building, how much of pwlib and gatekeeper can 
you delete?  With gatekeeper, I assume I could dump everything except the 
binary.  With pwlib, I assume everything except the lib/ and, maybe, the 
include/?  

I only dismiss it, not for its POTENTIAL, but for its practice.  PC-to-PC is 
what it is geared for, sans special equipment.  Those I would call do not sit 
at their computers 24 hrs/day and they do not run their computers 24 hrs/day.
The phone is the best option and for that, thus far, one requires special 
addon equipment, regardless of what openh323 software one uses.

It would be nice to see a non-hardware based answer.  It would not be optimal 
but it would be cheaper and easier for many people.

On Monday 05 February 2001 16:59, Tricia C. Sesar wrote:
 This seems to be a hot topic tonight. Kinda ironic, as I was just starting
 to get the bug into my head about this. Here are some facts:

 The technology is available. Below is a snippet from the VoIP HOW-TO (which
 some of you have been quick to dismiss tonight, without really
 understanding what you are reading):

 "5.1 Hardware requirement

 To create a little VoIP system you need the following hardware:

 1.PC 386 or more
 2.Sound card, full duplex capable
 3.a network card or connection to internet or other kind of interface
 to allow communication between 2 PCs

 All that has to be present twice to simulate a standard communication.
[...]
Phonepatch, able to solve problems behind a NAT firewall. It simply
 allows users (external or internal) calling from a web page (which is
 reachable from
[...]
 http://speakfreely.org

 Never used it. But it is only pc-to-pc, which some of you were opposed to.

 If, your top-end goal is to make calls, using the Internet to replace (at
 least, in part) your PSTN,  and the benefits of a hardware solution are
 worth the $$$ to you, then check these out:

 http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/VoIP-HOWTO.html
 http://www.linuxjack.com
 http://linuxtelephony.org
 http://www.openh323.org
 http://www.opentelecom.org/
[...]

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