from:"John A. Smith"

Miark wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:09:07 -0500, Tom wrote:
 

 Yes, but in newer Mandrake versions the CD drives are seen 
as dev=ATA:0,0,0   I use 0,0,0 for example only, 
'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'  will return the actual numbers.  The 
ATA device (burner) is linked to the numbers. EG, on my system 
dev=ATA:1,1,0  = /dev/hdd So 'md5sum /dev/hdd' returns the 
md5sum on the CD.

BUT, it will not be correct unless you use the -dao option 
when burning the iso to CD.  I burn on the CL using,
'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 
-dao  name_of.iso'  
   

Hi Tom,
At your suggestion, I tried using the following cdrecord command:
cdrecord -v -dao dev=ATA:1,0,0 speed=8 gracetime=2 driveropts=burnfree
but the md5sums of the ISO file and /dev/hdc were still different.
Any other thoughts? 

Miark
 

 

gracetime=#
 Set  the  grace  time before starting to write to #
 seconds.  Values below 2 seconds are not allowed.
I bet that changes the md5sum ???
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

Adolfo Bello wrote:
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
in terminal,
dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
(note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
drive is on your system.
and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
All 3  md5sums should agree,
ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
or duff iso file.
Hope this helps you,
John
   

`md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is mounted or
not.
Adolfo
 

It can work, but not always,
it depends upon how the CD was written in the first place.
How the device is set up to be mounted.
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

Miark wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:17 +0100, John wrote:
 

ls -l iso image file
Divide the size of the ISO image file by 2048 to get the
number of sectors, and record that sum (=n, hereafter)
   

If it comes out to a decimal, do I round up?
It doesn't.
The sectors in question are the number of sectors on the disc.
So whatever amount of bytes on a disc it will always come out
a whole sector number. The spiral of the lazer track begins on the
inner circumference and winds itself out to the outer. That
spiral is devided up into so many sectors.
So byte 1 is in sector 1 , byte 2049 is in sector 2, etc
At least that is how I understand it. I don't pretend
to be an expert.
in terminal,
dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
(note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
   

It still comes out different. Although I think I forgot 
to double-check the sectors written by cdrecord.

Then I suspect you have a failed disc write.
If you did the above right and it still gives
a wrong md5sum something is wrong
somewhere.
At this stage I would begin to suspect media next.
Maybe the choice of media/burner match is not
a good one. It does happen. I have to say that
I have never yet had such a problem, but I know
others have. I cannot say whether that is more a
problem of the user or the media. I tend to
believe the user is more at fault than the media,
but that could be my wrong assumption on my
part and until I experience the same it is very
difficult to arrive at a sound conclusion.
The dye that is used on some media is not
necessarily the best type of dye/media for your
burner. The frequency of the lazers may vary,
or the intensity of the lazer may not be
adequate for safe reliable burns, who
knows, I don't. But they are variables and
could be a cause of concern. The situation
is not made better by the device manufacturers
who in my experience don't want to suggest any
particular make/specification for their burners.
Basically it's left to the user to resolve.
So right now I'd double check what you have
just done above, and if you are satisfied it
is still not coming out right I think I would
beg borrow or acquire some different makes
of media to see if it makes any difference.
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

Marek Pawinski wrote:
I picked this up, i don't know if it pertains to the issue:
Bad Md5sums? (maybe not)
Just burned a CD from an ISO image and the md5sum doesn't match? The 
CD may be just fine... what you may be experiencing is padding which 
alters the md5sum. Before throwing away the CD and cursing, try this:

   cmp /dev/cdrom ISO_image
 For example, I got a bad md5sum from my 9.2beta1 CD1:
$ dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
1333216+0 records in
1333216+0 records out
e82309091ad6b44a1218dc6f33c3b058  -
It should be:
7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432
 So, I tried:
$ cmp /dev/cdrom /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso
cmp: EOF on /ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso
The EOF on the ISO image means that the CD image is an EXACT copy PLUS 
padding. An EOF on /mnt/cdrom would have meant the CD was incomplete.

Just to prove the CD was really OK, I issued this piped string of 
commands:

$ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c 682575872 | md5sum
1333162+0 records in
1333161+0 records out
7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432  -
Got the correct md5sum... :^) BTW, 682575872 is simply the length of 
that particular ISO image.

So, more generically, we can use this pipe stream:
  dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s ISO_image` | md5sum
i.e.,
$ dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s 
/ISO/Mandrake/MandrakeLinux-9.2beta1-CD1.i586.iso` | md5sum
1333162+0 records in
1333161+0 records out
7a0479dc917d35bd822cecb558c8d432  -

 For the purists, the size can be passed as an argument to dd like 
this (not verified):

  dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=`stat --format=%s ISO_image` | md5sum
Marek
Marek,
This is very interesting.
I did not know of the cmp command.
You have to be in the directory of the iso image I take it
when you compare it to the bytes on the disc ?
I'll have a go at this tomorrow.
As you say it's padding that quite often corrupts the md5sums
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

Miark wrote:
 

   

What do you do to verify discs?
 

Do you still have the iso file ?
   

Yes.
Miark
OK, simple enough.
First check iso image file md5sum,
you probably know how to do this anyway,but,
In a terminal,
cd path to iso image file directory  enter
md5sum iso image file
check the return against the published md5sum.
then you need to know the iso image file size to the last byte.
so,
ls -l iso image file
Divide the size of the ISO image file by 2048 to get the
number of sectors, and record that sum (=n, hereafter)
Then burn the iso image file contents to CD.
I use cdrecord, I like the data output, and note,
cdrecord will publish your sector count it should
agree with the above sector calculation, watch
the script carefully, it flashes by.
Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted:
in terminal,
dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum -
(note the   -   on the end, don't leave it off.
change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your
drive is on your system.
and where   n   is the number of sectors calculated above.
All 3  md5sums should agree,
ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD.
If they don't agree you have either a duff write,
or duff iso file.
Hope this helps you,
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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

Miark wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:31:37 +0200, Alan wrote:
 

Is there another product (linux based) that I can use instead of Ghost  
(bear in mind it has two ntfs partitions on it as well.
   


http://www.mondorescue.com will backup or clone any system
running Linux (even if it's a multi-boot system).
Miark
 

Partimage can backup all types of file systems now, and restore them 
from image files, whether stored on HD or on CD.

It's one real disadvantage is that it cannot restore into resized 
partitions, at all well, that is not at all into smaller partitions, and 
only badly in larger partitions, it leaves the excess space alone.

Power Quest drive image , a comercial drive image programme, can do 
almost everything except some of the linux file systems, like reiserf. 
It can certainly handle resizing well.

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

Miark wrote:
This is exactly what used to work for me. The only difference I
see is that with kernel 2.6 I'm no longer using scsi emulation.
so I'm checking /dev/hdc instead of /dev/scd0. I wonder if that
has anything to do with it.
Miark
 


Of course, the 2.6 kernels don't use scsi-emulation,
so you device is /dev/hd(x)
where (x) is your drive letter.
But it will sometimes error, because ,
at least this is how I understand it,
it depends upon how the data is written to disc.
So sometimes using it will cause a perfectly good disc write error.
The example I use ensures no wrong md5sums on perfectly
good disc writes.
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

Adolfo Bello wrote:

I always use CLI to burn my CDs too.
cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=1,0,0 -dao archivo.iso
What is new to me is the use of dev=ATA:1,0,0. I'll try it in next
burn. Using Mandrake 10 fully updated.
Thanks,
Adolfo
 

dev=ATA:1,0,0  is only for the 2.6 kernels
where the devices are set up as ATA devices.
dev=1,0,0 is for most 2.4 kernels 
where the device is scsi-emulated.

I use much the same cdrecord Cl as you.
Whilst I'm not against the GUI front ends,
when it comes to burning ISO's to disc I prefer the CL.
For one thing you get a good script to see what is 
really going on.Otherwise when things go wrong you
don't know why.

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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-25 Thread John Richard Smith

Miark wrote:
When I burn a CD in MDK 10.0 from the commandline or with K3b,
then compare the md5sums of the iso file and /dev/hdc, they are
_always_ different, even if the CD works fine. Is there something
weird with 10.0, or is this a subtle sign of burner problems to
come, or what?
Miark
 

Not at all.
When burn to disc, the md5sums include the lead in and lead out and so 
will inevitably result in different md5sums.

The trick is to get it to md5sum the data on the disc only.
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-25 Thread John Richard Smith

Marc wrote:
On Monday 25 October 2004 11:54 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Miark wrote:
   

When I burn a CD in MDK 10.0 from the commandline or with K3b,
then compare the md5sums of the iso file and /dev/hdc, they are
_always_ different, even if the CD works fine. Is there something
weird with 10.0, or is this a subtle sign of burner problems to
come, or what?
Miark
 

Not at all.
When burn to disc, the md5sums include the lead in and lead out and so
will inevitably result in different md5sums.
The trick is to get it to md5sum the data on the disc only.
John
   

There is never a problem eith any of this when I use K3b however I did have to 
slow down my burn speed to 4X
Marc

How do you md5sum the disc ?
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Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0

2004-10-25 Thread John Richard Smith

Miark wrote:


One other thing I considered: crappy media. And make no mistake,
I'm using Ritek--the crappiest, most god-awful media on planet.
But when I burned to a RW this morning, I had the same problem
(burning with K3b, with verification checked).
If your burner is modern, 8x is not particularly fast.
I doubt it is the cause.
What do you do to verify discs?
Miark
 

Do you still have the iso file ?
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Re: [newbie] Does Epson Perfection 2480 Photo work with Linux?

2004-10-17 Thread John Richard Smith

Björn Olsson wrote:
Hi all,
I'm planning on buying a scanner for my Mdk 10.0 system. Most Epson
scanners seem to be well supported by the Sane project
(www.sane-project.org). Support for the plain Epson 2480 model is
described as Good (CVS), but the 2480 Photo model isn't on the list.
Does anyone here have any information?
Alternatively, what are some other scanners of comparable quality and
price?
TIA,
Björn Olsson
 


Epson 2400 photo certainly is supported.
Is the 2480 much different ?
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Re: [newbie] Does Epson Perfection 2480 Photo work with Linux?

2004-10-17 Thread John Richard Smith

Björn Olsson wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:29:13 +0100
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Björn Olsson wrote:
   

Hi all,
I'm planning on buying a scanner for my Mdk 10.0 system. Most Epson
scanners seem to be well supported by the Sane project
(www.sane-project.org). Support for the plain Epson 2480 model is
described as Good (CVS), but the 2480 Photo model isn't on the list.
Does anyone here have any information?
Alternatively, what are some other scanners of comparable quality and
price?
TIA,
Björn Olsson

 

Epson 2400 photo certainly is supported.
Is the 2480 much different ?
John
   


Hi, John
I don't know, really. Judging by their product brochures, they don't
seem very different. However the 2480 is considerably newer.
Björn
 

Have you looked on sane website
http://www.sane-project.org/
I'm guessing it ain't much different, change of plastic knobs and such like.
If not the epson 2400 photo is still available here in UK.
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Re: [newbie] Does Epson Perfection 2480 Photo work with Linux?

2004-10-17 Thread John Richard Smith

Björn Olsson wrote:

Yeah, It is available in Sweden as well. I will probably settle for the
2400 just to be on the safe side. It may be a few years old, but I
understand it is still a very good scanner for its price.
Björn
 

I can vouch for that.
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Re: [newbie] downloading Firefox

2004-10-06 Thread John Richard Smith

M.Schild wrote:
Here is a dumb question.
I would like to download the latest Firefox.. I don´t want to make a mess of 
it because my connetcion is painfully slow and it announced it would take 
about one hour!
How do I do it and install it? Step by step please. 
Do I have to log in as root to do it?
I use MKD 10
Thanks
Maryse

 

Somewhere on your MD10 installation discs should be d4x , just install it.
D4X is a linux equivelant of getright.
If you cannot find d4x on your discs look in www.rpmfind.net
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Re: [newbie] downloading Firefox

2004-10-06 Thread John Richard Smith

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
Thank you John by the way 'urpmi D4X'  works also(If you have contrib 
defined).
 

Quite right, and as it's not a very big download , not much risk of 
being cut off.

Although, 
urpmi generally isn't much use for someone on modest download speed 
capability like Maryse.

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Re: [newbie] downloading Firefox

2004-10-06 Thread John Richard Smith

M.Schild wrote:
Although,
urpmi generally isn't much use for someone on modest download speed
capability like Maryse.
   


so what do you suggest?
Maryse
 

D4X
Easy gui, reconnect, and  resume download where download was cut off.
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Re: [newbie] 10.1 sound volume 'problem'

2004-10-04 Thread John Richard Smith

Azrael wrote:
Are you getting output on all 5 speaker ?
John
I am getting output on the 2 front and 2 rear speakers.
Unusual to have a 4 channel , multichannel setup, but it seems you have
output all around though I think it ought to be at least 5 channels,
sometimes 6.

However, when I run alsamixer, it tells me that it has the label:
SigmaTel STAC9708/11
I have no idea .
Is this correct? After all I am using a creative Sound Blaster Live.
not having soundblaster kit in my equipement, I have not experience to
judge by.

# lspci | grep audio
00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1
(rev 07)

Perhaps I am using the wrong driver? draksound has selected emu10k1,
and gives me the alternatives of audigy and snd-emu10k1. though
choosing any of these three doesn't make any difference, my volume
still can't be changed from within mplayer or xine.
Well if the alternative drivers do nothing , and your card being such a
popular one, and bound to be fully supported in linux, I'd say there has
to be a problem somewhere with the software to run it.

So your sound output is not just half volume in some cases you don't
have sound as in mplayer, and or xine, or your do have sound but no
volume control in those apps.

If it's just a question of no sound at all in these apps, then you might
need aRts enabled , that can be done inside a setting in MCC. The
function of aRts is to enable multi sound streaming.

Here is what alsa website says about your card.
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labscard=Soundblaster+Live+Valuechip=EMU10K1module=emu10k1
loads of stuff for setting up /etc/modules,conf or whatever it is now
called in MD10.1(did you say?)

I think I would try some of the settings they suggest and see what happens.
I'm going to bed now, so If I think of anything more I will let you know.

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Re: [newbie] 10.1 sound volume 'problem'

2004-09-29 Thread John Richard Smith

Azrael wrote:

I have a sound blaster live (platignum), it is 5.1 and I have 5.1 
speakers. And it worked perfectly on every version of mandrake I can 
remember (i.e. 9 onwards). Really is weirdly annoying

Are you getting output on all 5 speaker ?
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Re: [newbie] 10.1 sound volume 'problem'

2004-09-28 Thread John Richard Smith

Azrael wrote:
I just did my first fresh install of 10.1 (keeping my former /home), 
and everything is working well, except for an issue with the volume.

In xine, or mplayer, when I try to change the volume, the volume does 
not get quieter or louder. If I use the gnome volume panel applet, 
ditto, can't change the volume. Also the gnome volume control, none of 
the sliders seem to control the volume.

I have a sound-blaster live card, and it is using the snd-emu10k1 
driver module.

Can anyone offer suggestions, advice?
many thanks
 

How about trying alsamixer
just type it in a terminal.
when happy with your sound levels some distros need
alsactl store,
not sure if Mandrake does.
then there is also aumix amd kmix thay may need resetting too.
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Re: [newbie] 10.1 sound volume 'problem'

2004-09-28 Thread John Richard Smith

Azrael wrote:
John Richard Smith wrote:
Azrael wrote:
I just did my first fresh install of 10.1 (keeping my former /home), 
and everything is working well, except for an issue with the volume.

In xine, or mplayer, when I try to change the volume, the volume 
does not get quieter or louder. If I use the gnome volume panel 
applet, ditto, can't change the volume. Also the gnome volume 
control, none of the sliders seem to control the volume.

I have a sound-blaster live card, and it is using the snd-emu10k1 
driver module.

Can anyone offer suggestions, advice?
many thanks
 

How about trying alsamixer
just type it in a terminal.
when happy with your sound levels some distros need
alsactl store,
not sure if Mandrake does.
then there is also aumix amd kmix thay may need resetting too.
John

Thanks for the reply John, though I am afraid it wasn't too useful for 
me :(

I am not concerned with the volume being too loud or too quiet. The 
problem is that I am unable to change the volume in mplayer or xine to 
a reasonable extent. I am not sure which exact 'volume meter' is being 
changed when I use mplayer/xine volume control, but I can't put it to 
0 and have no sound. The change is very little, and only on one channel.

Yes I can use alsamixer to change every conceivable volume item. But I 
don't want to resign the rest of my life to having the volume set at 
that level.

Indeed, using alsamixer only the 'Wave Surround' item seems to do the 
job I want.

So I guess the question, is how do I make the mplayer/xine/anything 
else volume controls manipulate the 'Wave Surround' item rather than 
whatever other item they seem to be controlling.

The whole volume thing was not a problem in 10.0, so I don't know 
exactly why 10.1 is different in this respect, but I'd like to resolve 
it.

thanks again, and thanks to anyone else who can offer a suggestion
 

Hmm,
Well, in that case you seem to be saying that you are only getting maybe 
2 channels out of 4 or more ( you have suround sound ?) in which case 
it's likely a sound driver configuration problem.

You need to determin the sound card and chip and whether the website  
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ that helps people install and 
configure sound has anything to say to achieve that.

I know that I have had a similar problem with my MD10.0 OS in that my 
Mobo sound chip which is a 5.1 sound channel chip doesn't work too well 
with my 2 channel stereo speakers because I have been unable to combine 
the 5 channels into 2 and as such I'm only geting a certain distorted 
level of harmonic output, not really noticeable with system sound sets, 
but very noticeable when playing a quality audio CD.  I know that in the 
windblows OS's you can pass a command to tell the chip to combine channels.
The question really is whether the same is possible in linux, maybe ?

Maybe yours is a similar problem ?
Just a thought
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[newbie] cpu and memory demand under dvd write

2004-09-23 Thread John Richard Smith

I've succeeded in writing my first dvd, not problems all went well.
I used k3b.
I've been thinking about the way some people report write errors off to 
media.

Could it be a device buffer/HD problem.
I know you can increase the HD buffer.
I thought I would just test how the write is effected with a heavy  
interrupt.

This is what I found in TOP,
mkisofs 2.7% ,  growisofs 1.1% ,  k3b  0.1% for cpu usage
   k3b  4.6% 
memory

Now that isn't much cpu usage, so no query there, but as soon as you 
launch some big app, I chose Mozilla, all those cpu figues drop 
dramatically,for a short while, before leveling out back where they were.

That means every time you launch of an app it causes data flow to be 
slowed up initially. I'm guessing that that may cause problems, 
especially if you consider that with so little device buffer memory and 
a constant stream of data needed to keep up with the data write it may 
cause problems with buffer underruns. If this is correct then the answer 
would be to have a decent sized buffer of data stored on the harddrive, 
or not to launch apps during a write. In otherwards don't cause an hefty 
interrupts demand to cause a slow down in cpu output.

My dvd write took 13 minutes to write 4gigs to disk which equals about 
5Mb/sec
Modern drives seem to have only 2MB of buffer.
So it seems to be all down to the HD to store a pool of data and try to 
even out the flow.

Anyhow I decided to increase k3b's buffer to 8MB from 2MB, I see no harm 
in doing that.

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[newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make

I bought a NEC 2510A recently.
I have never bought DVD blanks before, whether dual or single 
layer.I note that here in UK, suppliers are grading the media make 
against manufacturer/device.That implies they have had trouble with 
some makes of media with certain makes of drive.

I wondered if list members have had similar experiences like that
themselves or are our suppliers being very cautious ?
So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon 
media make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they 
don't expect any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem.

It would help if one understood the technical whys and wherefores 
of choosing Media for DVD write purposes. I do not tend to buy 
re-writes for dvd writing.

A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes 
of media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my
experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, 
but maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I 
have had no experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ?

One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no 
guide to media quality.

Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write 
only, working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess 
that will be the only definative arguement in the end.

I don't have any reliable dual layer software at the moment and so 
don't feel motivated to seek dual layer blanks right now. If anyone 
knows of any experimental linux app with dual layer software I 
would be prepared to give it a shot if I can get media.

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[newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make

I bought a NEC 2510A recently.
I have never bought DVD blanks before, whether dual or single layer.
I note that here in UK, suppliers are grading the media make against 
manufacturer/device.
That implies they have had trouble with some makes of media with certain 
makes of drive.

I wondered if list members have had similar experiences like that 
themselves or are our suppliers being very cautious ?

So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon media 
make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they don't expect 
any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem.

It would help if one understood the technical whys and wherefores of 
choosing Media for DVD write purposes. I do not tend to buy re-writes 
for dvd writing.

A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes of 
media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my 
experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, but 
maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I have had no 
experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ?

One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no guide to 
media quality.

Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write only, 
working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess that will be 
the only definative arguement in the end.

I don't have any reliable dual layer software at the moment and so don't 
feel motivated to seek dual layer blanks right now. If anyone knows of 
any experimental linux app with dual layer software I would be prepared 
to give it a shot if I can get media.

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Re: [newbie] Choice of DVD Blank Media over Device make

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:45, John Richard Smith wrote:

Stands to reason that with any hardware device, there will be variations in manufacturing standards. However, suppliers grading media against specific devices does NOT imply that there are issues with other devices so much as that they are guaranteeing some level of compatibility/functionality with the specific device. Could be for a number of reasons, including:
1. They have tested with that specific device to save the customer the
trouble.
2. They are using the grading as a marketing device to justify higher costs
for media/device.

Good point.
I guess in most cases they will not of been able to test it.
I don't think it's the 2nd point on this occasion. Doesn't appear to be
anyway.

So far I haven't come across any NEC website to give guidance upon media
make and type for DVD write purposes. That suggests they don't expect
any problems or they don't want to own up to a problem.

Or that they don't have any specific agreements to benefit from making any
recommendations. Common business practice to not recommend specific
manufacturer's media if they aren't paying you to do so.

I guess that is it.
A preliminary inquiry of the media makes tells me different makes of
media seem to have different dye colours, and in the past, in my
experience, this has made no difference to choice of media make, but
maybe it is different where dvd write media is concerned. I have had no
experience to judge them by, maybe list members have ?

I have not heard anything about any specific dye colors or other material
affecting dvd burners. Format, speed, and end device (player) compatibility are all that I have seen discussed.

One thing I have noted in my experience price is absolutely no guide to
media quality.

Me too. It is, however, an indication of advertising.
Quite.

Right now I would be content to buy blank single layer dvd write only,
working my way up from the cheapest available, and I guess that will be
the only definative arguement in the end.

Personally, I tend to stick with DVD+RW, and I usually buy pretty inexpensive media. My take is that it is slightly more expensive than buying single write only, but if a mistake is made or something doesn't burn right, I can erase and try again. Also, I like the +RW format SO much more than the -R/-RW format. If I burn once and keep it forever, well, it was simply a slightly expensive single burn disk. In my mind, the slightly higher expense is worth the flexibility of not having to worry about getting a coaster.
YMMV.

P.S. the slightly higher expense that I refer to is the fact that you can buy dvd+rw
media for a little less than 1$ per disk at various mail order places in the US. +r
or -r is slightly cheaper than that at maybe 1/2 the cost.

OK, but tell me what actually is the difference between CD-R , and CD+R ?
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[newbie] VOBCOPY

When Vobcopy copies the selected vob files on a dvd CD it does do via 
the regional decryption code built into the dvd drive  does it not ?

Does that then mean then, that the resulting vob files sitting nicely on 
your hard drive are minus the regional encryption from there on ?

What about dvdcss ?
Is dvdcss decryption as well as encoding ?
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Re: [newbie] Scanning from the GIMP

2004-09-19 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj
Once again you saved my blood pressure from winding up into the 
paint cards, John. Of course the matter was that I didn't install 
xsane-gimp when I did the re-install. After doing just that 
everything runs the way I want.  The reason I prefer to start xsane 
from the gimp is that I can add text to the photos right away, skew 
and enhance them. Many of those old negatives are far from perfect, 
but the gimp is really an amazing tool.

Thanks, John.
Kaj Haulrich.
 

Glad it worked out for you because I'm finding it more and more 
difficult to remenber the fine details and I didn't keep a note of how I 
did it a long time ago.

I quite agree, the gimp/xsane plug-ins are a must for this kind of work.
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Re: [newbie] OT - stereo vs. puter cd players

2004-09-19 Thread John Richard Smith

Todd Slater wrote:
My daughter got hold of an audio cd and scratched it all up. Thinking it
would be for the trash, I nevertheless gave it a shot and cleaned it and
put it in my stereo's cd player; to my surprise, nary a skip!
I thought I'd best back it up so I tried ripping it with cdparanoia to
encode to flac, but it just hangs with all sorts of problems.
So, why the diff? Any way to rip it from my stereo's cd? (Technics
SL-PG480A)
Todd
 

Degrees of quality.
You can copy any old quality if you want, and some programmes like 
resound can even have a go at repairing the damage, to a degree, but in 
the end the better the quality of sound reporduction equipement the more 
demanding the quality of original recording has to be and I guess 
cdparanoia is trying to do a decent job for you. If my memory serves me 
correctly you tell cdparanoia to ignor or lessen the measure of quality 
demanded, or was that only in grip.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla fixed fonts problem

2004-09-16 Thread John Richard Smith

SnapafunFrank wrote:
Bob Read wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 21:15, Bob Read wrote:
snip
 

If all else fails, I guess I'll try re-installing
Mozilla -- but that sounds like a Windows solution. ;-)
  

/snip
What about updating ? - Your Mozilla 1.3 is quite old by linux 
standards.  Besides, there are a few security flaws in Mozilla 
previous to Mozilla 1.7.3 and Firefox 1 ORC.

I just updated to those, and although they don't come as Mandrake 
rpms, they are blindingly easy to install.  Only issue was a 
somewhat hairy java-plugin.

Kaj Haulrich.
 

I think Kaj is correct because minimum font size does control 
display on my mozilla.

John
Thanks to both of you.  I guess that's the best route to take.
I hope I can carry my 300mb of saved mail along.  I've been
accumulating it since early Netscape on windows.
Bob

Hope this is not too late but the only way I corrected this problem 
was nothing to do with mozilla. I had to go deep and change my system 
wide fonts settings after I had updated something.  I know it wasn't 
the usual desktop configuring but right now cannot recall exactly what 
it was. Whatever, once done it fixed all these font problems within 
mozilla for me. So I guess, 'go deep'.

If in kde there is a place somewhere in kde CC to adjust fonts thought 
kde, but whether that will also adjust fonts in older versions of 
mozilla I cannot remember. Worth a try though.

Incidentally , when updating your mozilla you can incorporate all your 
old emails, groups, filters and settings, BUT first you need to create 
an account in mozilla with the wizzard, then navigate to the mail 
folders in /home/.mozilla and just overwrite them with your old folders.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...

2004-09-16 Thread John Richard Smith

John Wilson wrote:
Oh, and guess which country is home to the most developed, efficent and most 
secret communications interception and decryting agency on the planet?  Why it's 
Canada.
For all that I'm still Canadian and always will be.  I just don't trust 
government much.  Any government.  

How times change.
I can remember when it was the cry of the right of center that held 
these views.

Now it seems that nobody feels comfortable with their governments, 
myself included.

We are a society listening to a syphony orchestra whose conducter is 
playing us all to perfection. As each cedanza unfolds we are expected to 
react to the chords on time and place according to the prescribed score, 
only to wake up and find while we were being played to perfection, 
government slipped cuffs on us via ledgislative bills passed under the 
guise of security.

Then again, I don't expect much from them either.
not bad for any independently minded/thinking person .
Not bad for a unreconstructed lefty :)
ttfn
John
 

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Re: [newbie] fuji finepix in LM10

2004-09-16 Thread John Richard Smith

Bill Winegarden wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to setup my Fuji Finepix 2400 in LM10. I did not have any problem 
doing this in earlier versions and in 9.1 there was an automatic setup. 
However in 10 it seems that I have to set it up manually again. 
I have made a /mnt/camera directory and put a line in fstab to use it

/dev/sda0 /mnt/camera  vfat  ro,noauto,user 0  0
However when I try to mount /mnt/camera it gives me this
mount: special device /dev/sda0 does not exist
This is probably not much help to you, but mine are,
more /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
 Vendor: PIONEER  Model: DVD-ROM DVD-116  Rev: 1.22
 Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
 Vendor: MITSUMI  Model: CR-48X9TERev: 1.0C
 Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
 Vendor:  Model: 1.3M DigitalCAM  Rev: 1.00
 Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
 Vendor: Generic  Model: USB Storage-SMC  Rev: 0090
 Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
fstab entries for reader and camera,
/dev/sda1 /mnt/reader vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/camera vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0
so maybe /dev/sda0 is not the camera on your system ?
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Re: [newbie] Mozilla fixed fonts problem

2004-09-15 Thread John Richard Smith

Bob Read wrote:
I use Mozilla mail  heavily. (Mozilla 1.3)
I normally use Inbox opened fully so that
I can scan the incoming files quickly.
A couple days ago, that screen seemed to
have reduced the type font size so that it
is now difficult to read.  As a check, I
counted the number of lines shown, and found
that it is now 32 lines rather than the 31
it has had previously.  I have tried every
thing I can think of to change this, but no
success.
Any suggestion will be much appreciated. My
eyes are hurting.
Bob
Mozilla - edit - preferences - appearance - fonts -
Minimum font size
Just increase that minimum font size
You can also change the font types.
you can also allow document to use other fonts.
But I guess you have tried these ?
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Re: [newbie] Mozilla fixed fonts problem

2004-09-15 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 21:15, Bob Read wrote:
snip
 

If all else fails, I guess I'll try re-installing
Mozilla -- but that sounds like a Windows solution. ;-)
   

/snip
What about updating ? - Your Mozilla 1.3 is quite old by linux 
standards.  Besides, there are a few security flaws in Mozilla 
previous to Mozilla 1.7.3 and Firefox 1 ORC.

I just updated to those, and although they don't come as Mandrake 
rpms, they are blindingly easy to install.  Only issue was a 
somewhat hairy java-plugin.

Kaj Haulrich.
 

I think Kaj is correct because minimum font size does control display on 
my mozilla.

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Re: [newbie] Format NTFS?

2004-09-12 Thread John Richard Smith

Eric Scott wrote:
Anybody know of a program that will let me format a given partition as
NTFS?  Fat32 might do it, 

Put Windows OS on the first partition on hda.
Windows 2000 installation disc's own partition tool and formatter can 
create and format in both NTFS and FAT32, but not without destroying 
remaining  data on that HD.

If you want to do the job without destroying data then use either 
Partition Magic 8 or disckdrake. I prefer PM8 when it's a windows/linux 
dual boot setup, but if a linux only drive, then I use discdrake. Both 
can create and format the two windows file systems you ask for.

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Re: [newbie] scanner

2004-09-06 Thread John Richard Smith

John Layt wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:08, David Wallis wrote:
 

Hi there
I'm a very new newbie. This is my first posting so please take pity on me
As a Windows convert I have an Epson Perfection 1670 which I would like
to use with my Mandrake 10 OS
Any help appreciated
David Wallis
   

Linux scanner support is through SANE, see their site at 
http://www.sane-project.org/ for lists of supported scanners.  Your scanner 
is listed as having Good support (but not complete).

Mandrake has ScannerDrake as part of the Mandrake Control Centre (MCC), on 
menu under System/Configuration/Configure your Computer.  This will detect 
and configure your scanner, if supported, and install some software to use.

Software to use are XSane (Gtk app, full featured, but GUI is a bit 
difficult), Kooka (KDE app, simplified GUI misses some features, has weird 
photo management add-on), or QuiteInsane (QT app, full featured, basically 
XSane for QT, no longer actively developed).

John.
 

Hi David,
Welcome to Linux.
Are you having any difficulties with your current scanner setup ?
For the most part if you had your scanner connected to your PC during 
Linux install it configures everything for you.

After that just select xsane and away you go, especially for most 
current epsom scanners.

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-04 Thread John Richard Smith

Much has been written on this thread about,
Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem
Netgear DM602 router/modem
but a preliminary search on some uk suppliers this afternoon suggests 
the Netgear DM602 router/modem is no longer available here in the uk.

The model most often suggested is the,
NETGEAR DG834 ADSL Firewall   £52.17  £61.30 inc VAT
Product Information
Four products in one, DG834 multitalented firewall router combines an 
ADSL modem, router, four-port 10/100 LAN switch, and SPI True Firewall 
to deliver broadband access that's continuously available for sharing 
with all your networked devices. Simple to use, it plugs directly into 
your ADSL line for instant connectivity to network resources and the 
Internet, and an integrated switch lets you directly connect up to four 
computers or any combination of four computers, access points or 
printers. Setup couldn't be easier with NETGEAR's unique Smart Wizard 
install assistant helps to guide you each step of the way. The Smart 
Wizard also automatically detects and makes the optimal connection to 
your ISP while the True Firewall protects your network with 
business-class security against intruders, including logs and alerts of 
break-in attempts. VPN pass-through makes it safe to connect to your 
business network from home or office. The unit's contemporary, sleek 
design suits your home or office, and it's wall mountable to save 
valuable desk space. It is upgradeable with new enhancements via the 
Internet.

Anyone got any experience with this model ?
Does work well ?
Of course this equipement isn't only a router/modem but also a 4 port 
10/100 LAN switch. I could just about cope with a 4port put this leaves 
me with no room for expansion.

I already have a DES1008D 8 port D-link . Is it then possible to just 
cross link the two to provide additional ports ?

Or should I look around for an alternative model possibly the same but 
with an 8port switch.
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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-04 Thread John Richard Smith

PM wrote:
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 18:35, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Much has been written on this thread about,
Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem
Netgear DM602 router/modem
but a preliminary search on some uk suppliers this afternoon suggests 
the Netgear DM602 router/modem is no longer available here in the uk.

The model most often suggested is the,
NETGEAR DG834 ADSL Firewall   £52.17  £61.30 inc VAT
Product Information
   

SNIP
 

Anyone got any experience with this model ?
Does work well ?
   

See http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=1291
 

Interesting !
one report in that review said,
I have had one problem: every time my ISP renewed my IP address, the 
router failed to reconnect automaticaly and had to do it manually.It was 
really annoying since I am running a website behind the router, and this 
handicap compromised its stability.It turned out to be a firmware bug 
which was resolved after installing 1.03.07 firmware.

Also,
A feature I miss is the SNMP support.There is no SNMP support at 
present for the DG834 nor it is previsted for the forthcoming firmware.

What pray is SNMP support ?
and is that important?
I also note that DHCP can be turned off, if that should ever be 
important, cannot think when that would be,but maybe there are times 
when you need to do that.

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread John Richard Smith

Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 02 September 2004 04:39 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Aron Smith wrote:
   

.
So then I need to network my other computers via this 8-pot 10/100Mbps
switch DES-1008D, the so called D-Link,  that is not so easy ?
   

from each computer run the D-Link software ez as pi
   

John
   

Aron you got me there , whats with, D-Link software ez as pi  ?
   

Easy as 3.1415
 

John
   

 

As in A.B.C.
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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote:
 

According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well 
as the Netgear DM602 router/modem.
Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook up to your ethernet 
card and should be as close to plug and play as you get.  The USB option is more 
likely to result in possible compatibility problems.
 

 

But that means you must have a fully configured ethernet card to go with 
your choice of the Netgear DM602 router/modem, doesn't it ?

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

PM wrote:
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 11:46, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

But that means you must have a fully configured ethernet card to go with 
your choice of the Netgear DM602 router/modem, doesn't it ?

John
   

I bought the first/cheapest and had no problems - turned out to have a
RealTek chipset immediately recognised by Mandrake - cost UKP 9.00.
 

 

Do you mean to say that the system itself only had to recognise the 
ethonet card for the router/modem to work, you didn't have to spend 
hours and hours in badly documented procedural to get the ethonet card 
configured properly ?

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Bryan Phinney wrote:
   

On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote:

According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem
as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem.
Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook up to
your ethernet card and should be as close to plug and play as you get. 
The USB option is more likely to result in possible compatibility
problems.
 

But that means you must have a fully configured ethernet card to go with
your choice of the Netgear DM602 router/modem, doesn't it ?
   

MCC will configure your card real nice
 

John
   

When you say configured, that is as a card recognised by the systen and 
a device to be used by the system, you don't mean as part of the  network ?

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

PM wrote:
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:54, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Aron Smith wrote:
   

On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Bryan Phinney wrote:
  

   

On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote:

According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem
as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem.
Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook up to
your ethernet card and should be as close to plug and play as you get. 
The USB option is more likely to result in possible compatibility
problems.


 

But that means you must have a fully configured ethernet card to go with
your choice of the Netgear DM602 router/modem, doesn't it ?
  

   

MCC will configure your card real nice
 

John
  

   

When you say configured, that is as a card recognised by the systen and 
a device to be used by the system, you don't mean as part of the  network ?

John
   

Mcc will do both, for eth0, likely to have a few more problems with a
second card (eth1).
 

OK then I bow to experience.
Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the network MCC 
still asks a lot of questions you don't know the answers to, and without 
those answers it don't work. Of course that is trying to set up a network.

I just don't find it clear whether setting up a router/modem plus 
ethernet can be done with nothing more than getting the devices 
recognised by the system, or that you also have to have the beginning of 
a network as well.

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

OK then I bow to experience.
Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the network MCC
still asks a lot of questions you don't know the answers to, and without
those answers it don't work. Of course that is trying to set up a network.
I just don't find it clear whether setting up a router/modem plus
ethernet can be done with nothing more than getting the devices
recognised by the system, or that you also have to have the beginning of
a network as well.
   

Most router/modems work based upon dhcp, which means that they automatically 
assign an IP address, netmask, broadcast, gateway, (some even do the domain name) to 
the cards that are plugged into their systems.
I see , dynamic host control protocol DHCP, is actually built into the 
router/modem itself and as such knows how to set istelf up dynamically. 
I didn't understand that, and couldn't see how it was gonna be done by 
MCC, without considerable imput by me.

OK, so now you have this router/modem(by the way what sort of port is 
that, or is it PCI device?) and a single ethernet card all nicely 
plugged in and detected by MCC and working.

So then I need to network my other computers via this 8-pot 10/100Mbps 
switch DES-1008D, the so called D-Link,  that is not so easy ?

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Bryan Phinney wrote:
Since the router/modem is equivalent to any other type of ethernet connection, you 
would hook it up and configure it exactly the same way you would to any other router, 
right?  Assuming that you are using the Dlink device now, hooking it up to the 
broadband modem as opposed to a cisco router connected to a T-1 would be about the 
same.  You need to point the switch to use the router/modem as a bridge, the machines 
all get hooked up to the Dlink device and configured, and away you go.
I see, so the D-ling is the switch that just about everything gets 
plugged into. Now that I've taken a second look at the diagramme on the 
back of the D-Link box it shows that the modem, in your suggested case, 
the router/modem is plugged into the back of the D-Link. I surmise that 
anything with an ethernet card or indeed another router-modem just plugs 
into the D-Link and away you should in theory go.

Then onn your OS merely MCC and let it detect the devices . Then because 
the router modem has dhcp it configures all the dificult IP stuff for 
you. That would be nice indeed.

I don't have this actually working yet , been waiting until affordable 
decent quality broadband comes into use in UK. Everything takes for ever 
in UK. They never market for the masses in UK. Not like the Japanese who 
would not even think of any other market than the mass market from day 
one. They ought to be marketing a minimum 2MB/sec download/upload for 
what it costs to buy dialup, but they don't,  so the market remains 
narrow and unfulfilled.But that is UK marketing for you. No competition, 
everything has to go through dear old BT one way or another, who know 
how to squeeze the local loop monopoly to the bone.

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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Margot wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm currently with Wanadoo for my 
dialup and I'm keen to leave them as soon as possible because I'm in 
the middle of a major row with them - they recently introduced spam 
filtering, and it is complete chaos - legitimate mail is not only 
being marked incorrectly as 'spam' but actually being *blocked* so I 
don't receive it at all (!) but the spam is still getting through in 
larger quantities than ever before!

Personally, I wouldn't recommend Wanadoo to my worst enemy - their 
service has deteriorated considerably since they dropped the 
'Freeserve' branding, and when I mention to them that I use Linux 
their only response is we only support Windows :-(

Margot
To a greater or lesser extent I agree with margo about wanadoo. I don't 
find their spam filtering a problem though. I set up a filter in moz to 
dump all wanadoo spam assigned messages and flick my eye over them all 
to make sure they haven't done a dirty on a valued correspondent and 
then zap the lot in one go. I like that, since not all spam is 
necessarily not wanted, you know, the latest offer from 
smarkequipement.co.uk of that always want to get one piece of 
equipement, but would not pay the price, but here it is on offer.

The serives wanadoo offers is lousy. I'm near certain as can be it is 
the source of my recent no carrier kppp problem, I believe they send a 
message back somehow that sends my modem into that mode when traffic 
gets heavy for them, just to stop my download. As a site they are very 
heavy usered. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall.

Still that is mine and Margo's opinion, I dare say other fee differently.
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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Aron Smith wrote:
.
So then I need to network my other computers via this 8-pot 10/100Mbps
switch DES-1008D, the so called D-Link,  that is not so easy ?
   

from each computer run the D-Link software ez as pi
 

John
   

 

Aron you got me there , whats with, D-Link software ez as pi  ?
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Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

Margot wrote: 


We seem to be drifting a bit here...
As I said in my original message, I need a solution that doesn't 
involve screwdrivers - not just because I'm a girl (!) but I have ME - 
the combination of brainfog plus physical limitations means that 
installing anything that involves taking the case off the box is 
beyond my capabilities.

As I understand it, an ethernet card would be installed inside the box 
- which means that I'd have to pay not only for the card but for the 
installation of it, and of course there's the inconvenience of having 
to take the box to the shop etc...plus the cost of the router which 
appears to be considerably more expensive than the USB modem. 
Oh, honestly Margo , it's dead simple to install, piece of cake !
They cost about £5 each, Not crippling.

Right now, I can afford the broadband service plus the USB modem. I'd 
have to save up for another 2-3 months to go for the other option. I'd 
appreciate your opinion on this - will the ease of use of the ethernet 
option be worth the wait and the extra expense?

Thanks
Margot
 

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-28 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
replies within
On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:21, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

John, the HP box came with no CDs at all. Instead, the is an icon on 
the desktop, labelled create HP restore disks or some such. Being 
only human, I was curious and connected to the net first in order 
to see if this crap really worked. Then, after about half an hour, 
I clicked the icon. that initiated a burn of no less than 6 CDs. 

 

The set of installation CDs from HP that you refer to, were they
not supplied by HP with the  Computer  as backup/restore discs,
   

No. I had to burn'em myself. Self-service, y'know.
 

If you get stuck for an M$ XP install disc, see me off list.
John
   

Thanks, John. After some arguing back and forth HP agreed to send me 
fresh CD's.

Kaj Haulrich.
 

Heck,
Things have sunk low. HP doesn't even give you their own backup disks as 
an emergency recovery any more.

I mean, not unnaturally the average user , ain't gonna think of creating 
their own image backups, the moment they first  plug the PC in and boot 
up. So these people are totally stuffed, and totally reliant upon HP's 
generaosityif they still have them.Plus the backup is 
presumeably to HD where it can also get infected/corrupted.

All I can say is that HP used to give you their own backup/recovery dics.
That means your daughter did you a serice is getting your computer 
virused up early on in the computers life , because you were then quick 
enough to ask for the missing discs before they don't have them any more.

I'm glad I don't buy there proprietary PC's any more.
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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread John Richard Smith

charlie wrote:

Something strange happened to me this morning as I was downloading mail into Kmail. I 
deleted one of Lanman's mails and the Kmail desktop locked up solid, my CPU usage went 
into the 100% and stayed there. But nothing was happening in Kmail that I could see. 
So went into a terminal, and top showed that Kmail was gobbling up 98% of my CPU 
muscle. Killed the pid and all is back to as it should be.
Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or precious?
Charlie.
 

Happened to me in Mozilla .
Don't remember whose mail it was, but on this list.
I was deleting one message, and it was loading the next, when it locked 
up tight.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-27 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Is Kmail going flaky or are Lanman's mail becoming sacred or
precious?
Charlie.
 

Happened to me in Mozilla .
Don't remember whose mail it was, but on this list.
I was deleting one message, and it was loading the next, when it
locked up tight.
John
   

Happens to me quite often (in Kontact). I noticed, that after a 
download of multiple mails, sometimes the list window (the one with 
all mails in it) marks more then one, usually three mails for 
reading/moving or deleting. After reading one mail, and then 
deleting it in order to read the next, Kontact locks up completely.
However, after killing Kontact and restarting it, all messages are 
marked as read, but hereafter it is stable - at least until the 
next reboot.

Must be a bug.
Eh.. haven't we here hijacked a thread that was otherwise 
closed ?

Kaj Haulrich.
 

I cannot say that this has happened to me very often in Mozilla.
As far as mozilla is concerned, the app loads in 1.5 seconds,
Most things load normally when viewed, and about the only thing not 
totally stable is the message counters, the numbers don't always appear 
each time they finish loading, have to click back and forth across a 
catagory or two, to make the numbers reappear.

The one bind with Mozilla is the line wrap isn't stable in all it's 
messages,sub-messages, and sub-sub-messages, I have to keep tidying the 
line wrap up to make it readable with easy. I do wish this could be 
fixed. I tried reducing the number of line wrap charcters to lower 
settings, but it doesn't really work. There is something fundamentally 
screwed about the setup of line wrap in all it's uses within mozilla.


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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Dear list...
I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you 
have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness :

A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years 
old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special, 
school-related apps. The PC came with WinXP pre-installed.

The first thing I did was to install Mozilla, OpenOffice and some 
sort of firewall, called ZoneAlarm. Now, I thought it was safe

Suddenly, when she tries to send an e-mail (from within Mozilla, of 
course, I'm not THAT stupid), up pops a message from our ISP saying 
that the box is compromized, accordingly the smtp-server won't 
accept the mail. In fact, her IP was blacklisted.

Some on-line security scans, revealed no less than 159 trojans, 
worms and viruses !

After heavy googling around, I purchased a spyware/trojan scanner 
called XoftSpy, which cleaned most of the shit. But nevertheless, a 
spyware trojan keeps coming in (SAHAgent). No matter what I do.
(The bugger doesn't show up in ControlPanel -- Remove software).

Well, I know next to nothing about Windows, but before I subscribe 
to a windows-list (which I would hate, really), I would like to ask 
if you can recommend :

1. A good, reliable firewall for Windows (preferably OSS and free) ?
2. A spyware/trojan/worm cleaner capable of removing all malware ?
3. Shutting down the whole kaboodle and wait for SP2 ?
Many thanks and apologies in advance
Kaj Haulrich.
 

If you purchased this box with XP on it and they didn't give you XP 
installation discs then they usually supply backup file somewhere on the 
HD in a spare partition.If so it might well be worthwhile reinstalling 
from that. they are usually some drive image type of backup file and 
don't take very long to reinstall a brand new pristine condition OS as 
originally supplied. That's the best way to get rid of virus problems, 
provided that they have not spread to bios and partition tables, in 
which case it's a different ball game.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-25 Thread John Richard Smith

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 14:38, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 

--- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

If you purchased this box with XP on it and they didn't give
you XP installation discs then they usually supply backup file
somewhere on the
HD in a spare partition.If so it might well be worthwhile
reinstalling from that. they are usually some drive image type
of backup file and don't take very long to reinstall a brand
new pristine condition OS as originally supplied. That's the
best way to get rid of virus problems, provided that they have
not spread to bios and partition tables, in which case it's a
different ball game.
John
 

On partition installation files are not reliable on M$ boxes
because of the spread of cab archive infections.
   

Well Lyvim and John... maybe I screwed things up again :
When doing the re-install, I used the built-in function from HP to 
create the restore CDs. Could that mean I transferred all the 
Trojans, Worms, Viruses and Spyware to the restore disks ?

No.
Anyway, right now I've scanned the HD for viruses, and no one seems 
to have survived, but nevertheless, each time I've cleaned the 
drive with XoftSpy, Adaware and Spybot, they tell me that various 
numbers of malware have been quarantained and will be deleted at 
next reboot. Only to the effect, that next time I reboot and run 
the tools, I've got another s%#t-load of worms, etc... etc...

I'm very tempted to give up. Not in my wildest imagination could I 
come up with an OS this horrible !

My daughter feels sorry for me : for my birthday present I wanted a 
new toilet bag, so she gave me one. You can admire it here :

http://haulrich.net/Family/toiletbag.jpg
A really fetching little number would go well in any art gallery !
Title : Kaj's bagged her in blue in the cubist style.
She's a real cutie.
Kaj Haulrich.
 

All I can say Is that I don't have much faith in any of these 
virus/tojan detecters programmes, because , for one thing they are 
always behind the curve, of that little tick fooling round in the 
basement of some loanly housing estate, or the mail address stripper who 
wants your addressbook, and knows how to get it.

I recommend a good firewall, otherwise if you suspect an infection, it's 
a reinstall for me.
If the infection has damaged bios and partition table then you have much 
more work to do.

So it's essential to have good restore utilities ready and waiting.
I can restore a windblows in 20 min.
LLF HD and bios reinstall about another hour or so, depending on how 
efficiently you want to wipe the HD.

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Re: [newbie] rescue disk probs

2004-08-23 Thread John Richard Smith

Scott wrote:
Hello
I'm trying to use my 10.0 rescue disk to re-write lilo in hda.  The 
problem is I have an improperly named kernel image in /etc/lilo.conf, 
so the rewrite fails when it runs lilo.  I don't seem to be able to 
open lilo.conf with vi to change it from the rescue console though.  I 
just get an empty new /etc/lilo.conf file, and ls /etc doesn't show a 
lilo.conf file (or a bunch of others either).  How can I fix the file?
 
Cheers,
SW
Not sure, but maybe you need to mount the partition your OS is on in 
rescue mode.
Then run vi to edit.

To do that, not done this for a while,
mkdir /mnt/tmp
/dev/hd(x) /mnt/tmp  enter
where x is your drive letter.
then type vi
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Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.

2004-08-18 Thread John Richard Smith

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
I dont have a clue what I did wrong?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-source
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# man urpmi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel.src
no package named kernel.src
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src
It seems to me that one of the above attempts should have worked.
 

Looks to me as though your headlist is not correct. To use urpmi your 
system headlist must be uptodate. In other words your system must have 
knowledge of the url and list of packages available on that url.

Also, you cannot just install  kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src as this is source 
code and must be compiled first ( that is the last process packagers do 
to create an installable rpm) until you have a better understanding of 
this process best to come back to it another time.

I don't use urpmi myself.
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Re: [newbie] Scanning from GIMP2

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
In GIMP 1.2 one could invoke xsane from the menu :
File -- Acquire
That option is missing in my GIMP2.
Solutions ?
Regards
Kaj Haulrich.
 


Kaj ,
I stick to standard Mandrake packages and haven't had the chance anyway 
to install the latest gimp/sane packages.

The ones you need is,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa | grep gimp
gimp-1.2.5-10mdk
xsane-gimp-0.92-1mdk  ---   this is the important one.
libgimp1.2-1.2.5-10mdk
gimp-data-extras-1.2.0-7mdk
gimpprint-4.2.6-14mdk
gimp-perl-1.2.5-10mdk
xpcd-gimp-2.08-20mdk
libgimp1.2_1-1.2.5-10mdk
You already have sane backends , or it wouldn't work at all.
If you already have gimp2 version of xsane-gimp installed,and it doen't 
work then my guess there is a bug.

You can call xsane on it's own, of course, but then it's not part of 
gimp pluggings and you have to save the image file and open gimp and run 
the sane image file again, a bit of a bother really.

Myself, I'm happy to continue with the above gimp/sane versions and that 
all works fine.Does everything I need of it so far. I suppose I'm lazy, 
but I just don't have enough time to do everything all at once all the 
time, but I can understang you wanting to get to grips with it all at 
this time.

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Re: [newbie] Downloads and Installs

BJ Tracy wrote:
Hello All,
I have a number of books on Linux and find them to be a wealth of knowledge 
but they are really vague when it comes to downloads and installations.

Can someone suggest a good book that will walk me thru a download and 
installation.  I may be making this harder than it is, but I have been on MS 
all my life and just recently switched to Linux.  It's been years since I 
last did a lot of work on the keyboard(in the terminal) but I really do like  
what I'm doing now in Linux. 

A couple of NEWBIE questions:
1)  When you download a program such as clamav, where should you down load to?  
A temp file in the usr file?

2)  After extracting the files form the tar,  and you do a 'make' and  a 'make 
install'  , , , , , does Linux know where to put the program files?
Just a little confused.

Any good books on this,  PLEASE ADVISE.
bj
 

Downloader programmes for linux,
D4X,  and   NT,
try,  www.rpmfind.net   and serch for any package you think suitable.
D4X,  and   NT  is  Very gui but easy to use.
You download the packages wherever you want to store them.
If possible, to start with, download .rpm packages pertaining to your 
distribution as they will install easy, more or less like windblows, and 
they remove in just the same sort of way.

Then start downloading src  or source code verson .rpms
these need compiling before installing and make better installations to 
your particular hardware and OS.

After than you move on to tar balls, or .tar files.
./configure
make
make install
but read the readme files to each package carefully.
They do vary some.
For documentatation try googling.
If you get stuck ask here again.
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Re: [newbie] Scanning from GIMP2

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

Well John, now I'm learning to scan my old B/W negatives using 
GIMP's acquire function. Xsane seems to work perfectly so far. Of 
course I had to do a lot of experimenting first. One thing that 
bothers me though is that I have to scan at resolution 1200 in 
order to reasonably large pictures. But the quality is quite 
amazing. And it seems to work best scanning with full color range 
rather than standard negative. Wonder why.
 

I found that too. I got better B+W pictures by scanning the original B+W 
source in colour and then using gimp to covert to greyscale. I sure 
don't know why that is unless the answer is that a colour scan, of 
necessity , grabs much more real data with which any programmes can work 
with and convert back to B+W. Just a guess.

The choice of dpi seems to be a function of size of source area over 
degree of enlargement and therefore if for arguement's sake you want to 
extract an area in a picture the size of a postage stamp, but you want 
to enlarge it and use it again in another setting then it is necessary 
to choose a high dpi rate, naturally. That always supposes that the 
source of that postage size area has enough definition to allow for 
enlargement without undue degradation.

I found I really did need a lot of CPU power to do all this. There is a 
hell of a lot of number crunching in image work, especially when you 
want to be getting on with scanning and sending print files to the 
printer as well. One reason why I'm contemplating AMD64 cpu's next.

John

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Re: [newbie] Scanning from GIMP2

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 08:04, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 

On Tuesday 17 August 2004 14:48, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
snip
   

Kaj;
What kind of scanner are you using I'v been checking out the
LS-2000 but might be interested in other's.
 

/snip
John Richard Smith has been extremely helpful to me. He knows more
than somewhat about scanning and recommended an Epson Perfection
2400 Photo. My main interest in scanning is as a substitute for my
old-fashioned darkroom ( I realise, that doing it the old way with
enlargers, developers, fixers etc.. etc... is too time consuming
for about 5000 old negatives). It was a little hard to get that
particular scanner where I live, but it finally arrived. I've used
it now for about a week, and I'm very happy with it. It set me back
200 ?. Well worth the money !
Kaj Haulrich.
   

Thanks Kaj.
 

If you have supply problems, I'm pretty sure I can get one in UK quite 
easily.

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Re: [newbie] Scanning from GIMP2

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
OK, my Athlon XP2100 works fairly well and 512 MB of RAM makes the 
processing quite fast. 

We have about the same then.
When scanning a 35 mm B/W negative at 2400 
resolution it takes about 20 seconds to complete. In order to keep 
the resulting file size modest, I save the scans in jpeg with 90 % 
quality, thus getting files around 1 MB. (Of course, when doing 
multiple edits and saves I use .png to avoid picture degradation). 
Not knowing if jpeg is here to stay, I save the really important 
photos in raw format, but maybe that's overkill. Right now, I'm 
trying to scan some old negatives in strange formats, such as 6x6 
cm roll film shot with my Rolleiflex and some glass plates around 
9x13 cm. My scanner doesn't come with a mask for those weird 
things, so maybe I have to construct one myself. 

Your gonna end up with a fair collection of cardboard cutout wierd and 
wonderfuls to make slipping negs straight in and out.

Alternatively,
Working from within gimp , just slap the negative or print flat down on 
the deck and make a large  scan around the image, never minding if it's 
wonky, just use gimp to rotate the scanned image and crop the excess. 
It's quite easy once you've got used to it.

The fun goes on.
Kaj Haulrich.
 

Don't forget you can add text to your images, not a bad idea to name 
photos for future generations, after all you may know that person is 
auntie Peggy but the next generation may not.

The one really useful thing I haven't learnt to do in gimp yet is cut 
around an image and dump the background. I feel sure it's possible but I 
haven't found the correct bit in the gimp manual.

That is another thing you need, get yourself a pdf gimp manual.
Also take a look at kooka sometime, it's coming along quite well, I've 
started using it a bit, now and again. It has a lot to catch up on 
compared with xsane/gimp but it's slowly getting there. Some folk may 
well prefer the windblowsy layout to gimp/sane type of opperation.

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Re: [newbie] Scanning from GIMP2

Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Can't help you there (g). My wish is to find a way to antiskew 
some photos : I live by the sea here in Denmark and a lot of photos 
has an oblique horizon (too many beers, perhaps). I'm no champion 
at image manipulation, but I remember a nice application called 
PhotoGraphics from my OS/2 days. It had an option to skew 
images into the correct, horizontal position. Maybe GIMP can do the 
same, but I can't find out how.
/many snips

Maybe I'll try kooka, but right now I have to explore GIMP/SANE.
Kaj Haulrich.
 

Double LMClick tab in gimp window (snapshot210.jpg)
choose corrective and rotation
Double LMclick the image window,
you get a grid.
Single LMclick the grid to grip the grid and rotate it.
single LMclick the rotate tab.
crop in usual way.
save
John

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[newbie] Strange Invoices

2004-08-12 Thread John Richard Smith

Anyone getting a series of stange invoices by email from US suppliers 
you have never heard of for goods and services you had nothing to do 
with billed in US $.

Because I am.
I'm quite sure it's a scam.
But one of the odd things is that it seems to come to me on my above 
email address slightly bastadised, and my ISP's filters seem unable to 
do anything about stopping it.

I feel the address has been lifted without my consent and knowledge from 
somewhere like this list, though it could be any, I belong to a number.

Just wondered if anyone else is noticing such a situation lately ?
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Re: [newbie] Adding another Linux distro to MDK lilo.conf

2004-08-10 Thread John Richard Smith

Trey Sizemore wrote:
I originally had on SUSE 9.1 installed on my HD.  When I added MDK 10.1,
I chose not to install the bootloader as I was going to make an entry in
the SUSE grub.conf to boot MDK 10.1.  For some reason, MDK overwrote the
MBR anyway and now I have lilo with MDK options and I'd like to add SUSE
as an option (currently on hda1).  It's been a while since I played with
lilo.  Do I need to first make an entry in /etc/fstab for SUSE
on /dev/hda1 and *then* add an entry in lilo.conf for SUSE?
This is what I changed in the MDK lilo.conf file:
default=linux
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=linux
   root=/dev/hda8
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append=devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda7 splash=silent
   vga=788
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=linux-nonfb
   root=/dev/hda8
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append=devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda7
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
   label=failsafe
   root=/dev/hda8
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   append=failsafe acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda7 devfs=nomount
   read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-25cvs20040728163444-default
   label=SUSE
   root=/dev/hda1
   read-only
but the issue is that there's no such thing
as /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-25cvs20040728163444-default as far as MDK is
concerned.  
 

Dual booting involves resolving where the /boot directory that the 
system is booting from is going.
If you have not already created a /boot Partion you have ended up with 
two /boot directories one in each OS / base, and lilo only knows only of 
the one, the one it has in mandrake / base.

There are two solutions,
either, create a single /boot partition and reinstall both OS's, in 
which case all the boot files for both OS's are installed automatically 
by both OS installers in the /boot partition.

or, copy the /boot files from the dead /boot directory across to the 
live /boot directory, the one lilo knows about in mandrake /  base.

The stanza for suse looks ok to me, but I have limited experience with 
suse and so cannot be sure. The one previso I would have is the number 
of characters for the kernel to boot from, there are limitations in lilo 
for most labels and kernel versions but they have to be precise enough 
to be able to activate the correct kernels.
when you are done run /sbin/lilo to confirm the entries are correct and 
make sure lilo accepts you final result.
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Re: [newbie] HSP56 Micromodem

2004-08-08 Thread John Richard Smith

Suket wrote:
Dear all,
Hello, I'm new comer in this maillist.
I just start using Mandrake 9.2, but got problem on my computer.
My internal modem can be detected by linux, yet as other device i/o as a
modem.
And the module is blank when I check on my hardware list detected.
Then it can not work properly.
My internal modem HSP56 Micromodem (com 3) with cpu AMD Athlon XP2100.
Please help.
Many thanks.
Suket
 

Just about the worst win modem around, no flow control, and they burn 
out regularly, I had one once on a cheapie Box I did up for my student 
daughter, I threw it away after it burnt out ,which they did replace, 
but I wouldn't use again for it's lack of durability. I know they are 
cheap. But a good hardware controlled modem ain't a bustin fortune.

WWW.linmodem.orgif you must.
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Re: [newbie] When clicking on CD ROM icon Cervisia starts, not konqueror

2004-08-08 Thread John Richard Smith

John Zoetebier wrote:
When I put a CD ROM in the PC an icon is shown on the desktop.
When clicking on CD ROM icon Cervisia starts, not konqueror.
And I get this error message;
remote CVS working folders not supported
This is the entry from /etc/fstab:
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto
umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
How can I get konqueror to start from CD ROM icon ?
 

What is Cervisia ?
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Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread John Richard Smith

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Thursday 05 August 2004 07:25 am, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 

Should read DOD.  I think that NSA promulgates standards which then become 
published DoD standards but the NSA itself, doesn't publish standards.
For anyone that actually wants a quick Linux tool to do this, see:
http://dban.sourceforge.net
 

Bryan,
I'm made a floppy version of dban, but tell me if I accidentally left it 
in my A drive and booted up on it,  it wouldn't atually wipe my entire 
drive without asking me first would it ?

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Re: [newbie] tools for partitioning and formatting hard drive(diatribe alert)

2004-08-05 Thread John Richard Smith

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:39 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

Bryan,
I've made a floppy version of dban, but tell me if I accidentally left it in my A drive and booted up on it,  it wouldn't atually wipe my entire drive without asking me first would it ?
   

As far as I know, it would not.  The later versions of dban allow you to wipe just 
a single partition, rather than the entire drive.  You would have to interact with the 
app after it detects the partitions and drives to tell it which one to wipe.
However, I would recommend that you only insert and boot from that floppy when you KNOW you intend to wipe a partition or drive and obviously, you want to have a backup of all data before you do that.  
 

Oh for sure,
but you know how it is, the best laid plans of mice and men.
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Re: [newbie] Clock in kicker.

2004-08-03 Thread John Richard Smith

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
I used to have the date shown under the time in the kicker 

I don't know about under, but side by side, time+date,
RMclick clock applet - type - plain - LMclick.
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Re: [newbie] OT: Bordem ;-)

2004-07-19 Thread John Richard Smith

Marc Hultquist wrote:
What does Mandrake actually mean ? Was just thinking about it now and well 
while apache 2.x compiles I thought I would see what I could find out. Its 
unfortunately to slow for me to browse the net right now :\

Anyone care to shed some light on this ?
 

Webster's  says,
Mandrake \Mandrake\, n. [AS. mandragora, L. mandragoras, fr.
  Gr. ?: cf. F. mandragore.]
  1. (Bot.) A low plant (Mandragora officinarum) of the
 Nightshade family, having a fleshy root, often forked, and
 supposed to resemble a man. It was therefore supposed to
 have animal life, and to cry out when pulled up. All parts
 of the plant are strongly narcotic. It is found in the
 Mediterranean region.
   And shrieks like mandrakes, torn out of the earth,
   That living mortals, hearing them, run mad. --Shak.
  Note: The mandrake of Scripture was perhaps the same plant,
but proof is wanting.
I believe it was used in english medieval times for medicinal purposes.
I expect it was an early ruling class version of coke.
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Re: [newbie] OT on mobos and chipsets

2004-07-17 Thread John Richard Smith

Clint Harshaw wrote:
Todd Slater wrote:
Seems like I only post ot questions lately :(
I'm thinking about building a new computer. My needs are pretty typical
home user stuff. I want to network it (haven't decided on wired or
wireless yet), be able to watch TV on it, and possibly make dvd's from
recorded TV.
Basically I've decided I want an AMD processor and to use a SATA hard 
drive.
But when I go to look at mobos I'm amazed at the difference in price
from one to another. I'm really clueless about the different chipsets
and which one I'd want. Googling for a comparison doesn't help too much;
do you have to read the reports on every mobo out there?

For my last builds I used Asus and it has been rock solid; I think it
was a little pricier than other comparable boards at the time.
So, any suggestions on a mobo/chipset? What's the absolute lowest cpu
you'd go for, considering I'm a cheap bastard? (I'm fairly happy with my
500MHz amd now, I just need a project.)
TIA,
Todd

Be sure to update your ASUS BIOS when you get your pc up! I spent 3 
days trying to determine why the OS would install -- had I installed 
the update to the BIOS, I would have had a much smoother time with the 
build.

Clint
My MSI K7N2 was dirt cheap in uk, and it works.
I just needed the cheapest replacement I could find for my previous  mobo.
There are plenty of others though.
The sensible approach is to look through your local suppliers catalogues 
and look for the boards just going out of current manufacture from top 
name mobo manufacturers and then see which look a good bet for linux.
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Re: [newbie] Monitoring quantity of internet usage

2004-07-17 Thread John Richard Smith

Richard Urwin wrote:
On Saturday 17 Jul 2004 10:44 am, Margot wrote:
 

I'm considering upgrading to a broadband service sometime later in
the year.
Many of the packages available seem to be limited by *size* - eg
Wanadoo has a package for 17.99 a month with a limit of 2GB per
month and a package of 15GB per month for 27.99.
   

Not all of them do. OTOH, the cheap ones probably do moreso.
I strongly suggest you check out ADSLGuide:
http://adslguide.org/
They have a very good ISP comparison feature.
 

Oh, wouldn't it be lovely if we only had an ADSL 15GB service available 
for £15/Month.

The irony is that fibre optic cable runs not 500 yards from my property, 
with 3 national suppliers having spent millions laying it, and no cable 
up my street.

I did think maybe some cleaver clogs technocrat firm might come up with 
a suitcase transceiver  kit that could sit atop a lamp post or two on 
our estates and we could buy some kind of box of tricks  to point an 
aerial at it and take high speed internet connection in much the same 
way mobile phones work, because until some such setup comes along the 
cost of digging up pavement around all our estates makes the task too 
expensive, and it will not catch on.

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

2004-07-16 Thread John Richard Smith

The Other wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:10 +0100, John Richard Smith 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, before I do that, I could install an earlier version of kppp
and see how that performs(My MD8.1 is running on some very ancient
version)as I don't think any dependencies in say the MD9.1's kppp
version is likely to be a problem, but would it install?

Try the MD9.1 install.   I'm using MDK9.1 right now with the KPPP 
dialer.  The LFS 5.1 system is another system/kernel I multiboot with 
MDK9.1 and Win95B (for some legacy music apps).

In search of the bullet-proof apps.
Stephen.
One further question.
Should I have the bios MC97 Modem,   set for auto of disabled  with a 
hardware controlled modem.

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

2004-07-16 Thread John Richard Smith

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Friday 16 July 2004 12:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 

The Other wrote:
   

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:45:10 +0100, John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

However, before I do that, I could install an earlier version of kppp
and see how that performs(My MD8.1 is running on some very ancient
version)as I don't think any dependencies in say the MD9.1's kppp
version is likely to be a problem, but would it install?
   

Try the MD9.1 install.   I'm using MDK9.1 right now with the KPPP
dialer.  The LFS 5.1 system is another system/kernel I multiboot with
MDK9.1 and Win95B (for some legacy music apps).
In search of the bullet-proof apps.
Stephen.
 

One further question.
Should I have the bios MC97 Modem,   set for auto of disabled  with a
hardware controlled modem.
John
   

John:
I'd say that best setting would be to disable it. The auto setting could be a 
recipe for disaster, with both modems fighting for recognition. I suppose 
that you might be able to get away with having them assigned to different 
ports and IRQ's, but I'm not sure why you would want to do that.

-- cmg
 

I quite agree, just checking.
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Re: [newbie] kppp kaput

Mike Adolf wrote:
For reasons unknown, I now get the following when trying to use kppp to 
connect to the internet.

**
Jul  9 17:53:34 localhost pppd[2200]: pppd 2.4.1 started by madolf, uid 501
Jul  9 17:53:34 localhost pppd[2200]: Using interface ppp0
Jul  9 17:53:34 localhost pppd[2200]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/tts/1
Jul  9 17:53:58 localhost pppd[2200]: Terminating on signal 15.
Jul  9 17:54:04 localhost pppd[2200]: Connection terminated.
Jul  9 17:54:04 localhost pppd[2200]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Jul  9 17:54:04 localhost pppd[2200]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
Jul  9 17:54:04 localhost pppd[2200]: Exit.
**
I know the modem is working since I am sending this email after connecting via 
harddrake, running the modems config tool.
Anybody understand the error and how to fix it?
Mike
 

Could it be that the connection between ppp0 and the device /dev/tts/1 
wasn't made which caused kppp to return a signel 15 termination ?

On my computer the modem device is known as /dev/ttyS0 which I believe 
means connected to serial port 0 the first serial port, I'm not saying 
/dev/tts/1 is wrong, I don't know, but it looks odd to me.

Anyway, you say haddrake sets if up to work correctly, so how does it do 
that, and can you make that permanent ?

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

Martin Foster wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night,
--- 

Dear John,
Thank you for your email.
The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it 
usually will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not.

If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in 
contact with us again.

Kind Regards
Wanadoo Technical Support
REF:WOOTS
Original Message Follows:

I'm currently using,
147008089916080
147008089916164
But is the 1470 strictly necessary,
-
And so I'm flabbergasted.
Never would of thought it.
But there it is.
and so you think I should remove 1470 then ?

I don't see any harm in removing it.
However, I don't think that's what causing the problems.
Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet?
OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, 
but it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful.

36 HOURS LATER
==
Alas, the removal of prefix 1470 to the dialup number has 
not proved to be the solution to the problem. I still get
NO CARRIER on kppp reconnect after first ISP cutoff.

So I will try ATH0 on the hangup string for a while and see 
what if anything that does and report.

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

Charlie wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:44 pm, John Richard Smith sent these thoughts:

Martin Foster wrote:

However, I don't think that's what causing the problems.
Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet?

Can someone help me understand something.
In KPPP under modem, there is a line termination field with 3 choices.
CR, CR/LF, and something else I cannot just ths moment remember.
Googling around I find this to be something to do with the way line termination is
handled between unix and Dos. I read the spiel on it and it seems to be something to do with
inserting the numbers -13-10 in dos line termination, and simply -10- in unix code. Suffice it
to say I don't really understand it, but that is beside the point.
I had my modem setting set for CR the unix code line termination
criteria, is there a possibility that this just might cause kppp to
return No Carrier on it's first ISP cutoff and redial ?
What are the odds that having CR/LF set would cure my problem ?
John

Just CR works here John.

Yes ?
But maybe , just maybe, my modem works with the dos line termination
code, and maybe yours works with either dos or unix, but kppp can be set
to work either/both ways.

If I have it on unix line termination could it somehow mess up how the
modem is thought to be to be available by kppp, so that when kppp asks
the modem to redial, it gets back some signal to say the modem is still
running.

Maybe not though. That would be like trying to get the modem to do two
jobs at once, whensurely kppp wouldn't begin dialing if didn't get back
from the modem a signal to say the modem is ready and waiting to dial.
It's just that instead of logging in as it does on the first dialup it
end with no carier instead.

Hmm, I'm flying kites.
It's just that I've now had modem set on CR/LF for 12 hours,
I've had numerous ISP cutoffs, but no failed email downoad, and no
failed file download ending redialup to no Carrier So I'm wondering ?

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

John Rye wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
John Richard Smith wrote:
| Martin Foster wrote:
|
| On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
|
| Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night,
|
| Dear John,
|
| Thank you for your email.
|
| The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it
|  usually will not cause any problem whether the number is
| witheld or not.
|
| If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to
| get in contact with us again.
|
| Kind Regards
|
| Wanadoo Technical Support REF:WOOTS
|
|
| Original Message Follows:  I'm
| currently using, 147008089916080 147008089916164
|
| But is the 1470 strictly necessary,
| -
|
| And so I'm flabbergasted. Never would of thought it. But there
| it is.
|
|
| and so you think I should remove 1470 then ?
|
| I don't see any harm in removing it.
|
| However, I don't think that's what causing the problems. Have you
|  had a look at my other suggestions yet?
|
| OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but
| it's too soon to say, but I'm hopeful.
|
| I'm thinking if this holds up, then maybe the problem is that kppp
| handles prefix numbers on the initial dialup but not subsequently
| on redial due to a cutoff.Could that make sense ? Somehow it does
| not handle the 1470 prefix on redial, but that of course does not
| account for why I  am getting poor email download in the first
| place, that is,  that I'm getting cut off during a pop3 download.
| Wanadoo my ISP may be rationalising the use of their equipement, I
| don't know, though I strongly suspect it, but they would hardly
| want to cut users off mid email download. That I find unlikely. It
| is not in their best interest. Especially high traffic user like
| me. I maybe get 400/ 800 emails a day (about 1/3 is spam though)
| and they want to get this traffic off their servers ASAP for
| obvious reasons.
|
| I tried Stephens AT string, AT F C1 D2 E1 Q0 V1,it hung, Not
| sure where to put ATH0 for the hangup string . I currently have ###ATH,
| I'm to change that to ATH0  ?, I currently have hangup
| response OK, presumeably leave that.
John,
What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ?
lock
noauth
noipdefault
usepeerdns
Also, if you have wvdial installed, running wvdialconf will give you a
pretty good initialisation string which you can copy into the modem 
options tab of kppp's setup.
Not yet, but I may come to it.
Whenever I install an OS, I configure kppp from a printscreen printout 
of every kppp window which I use as a crib sheet.
In the past I have chosen CR  or CR/LM  it  made no odds.
The same can be said with the choice between PAP and CHAP for 
authentification( I happen to know my pop3 ISP account server uses CHAP) 
and so as long as I chose  either pap/chap or just chap it didn't matter.

Cheers
John (NZ)

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

2004-07-10 Thread John Richard Smith

Martin Foster wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:26:21 +0100, Margot  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Martin Foster wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT147008089916080

Why are you using 1470 in front of your ISP's phone number?
Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an
account with them, it was unnecessary to use 1470.
Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't!
I use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they
said the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd
get charged for the call by BT!

H, here's the result of a search for 1470 on BeeTee's Web site:
A customer with Permanent Number Withhold on their line can release 
their  number on a per call basis by dialling 1470 before dialling the 
number of  the person they would like to call. This means that the 
person they are  calling will be able to see the caller's number on 
Caller Display or be  told it through the free 1471 service.

Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night,
---
Dear John,
Thank you for your email.
The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it usually 
will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not.

If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in 
contact with us again.

Kind Regards
Wanadoo Technical Support
REF:WOOTS
Original Message Follows:

I'm currently using,
147008089916080
147008089916164
But is the 1470 strictly necessary,
-
And so I'm flabbergasted.
Never would of thought it.
But there it is.
and so you think I should remove 1470 then ?
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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

2004-07-10 Thread John Richard Smith

Martin Foster wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:11:56 +0100, John Richard Smith  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Heres wanadoo's technical support reply to my email last night,
--- 

Dear John,
Thank you for your email.
The 1470 is only needed if your caller identity is witheld - it 
usually will not cause any problem whether the number is witheld or not.

If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in 
contact with us again.

Kind Regards
Wanadoo Technical Support
REF:WOOTS
Original Message Follows:

I'm currently using,
147008089916080
147008089916164
But is the 1470 strictly necessary,
-
And so I'm flabbergasted.
Never would of thought it.
But there it is.
and so you think I should remove 1470 then ?

I don't see any harm in removing it.
However, I don't think that's what causing the problems.
Have you had a look at my other suggestions yet?
OK, I've removed the 1470 prefix and am having less trouble, but it's 
too soon to say, but I'm hopeful.

I'm thinking if this holds up, then maybe the problem is that kppp 
handles prefix numbers on the initial dialup but not subsequently on 
redial due to a cutoff.Could that make sense ?
Somehow it does not handle the 1470 prefix on redial, but that of course 
does not account for why I  am getting poor email download in the first 
place, that is,  that I'm getting cut off during a pop3 download.
Wanadoo my ISP may be rationalising the use of their equipement, I don't 
know, though I strongly suspect it, but they would hardly want to cut 
users off mid email download. That I find unlikely. It is not in their 
best interest. Especially high traffic user like me. I maybe get 400/ 
800 emails a day (about 1/3 is spam though) and they want to get this 
traffic off their servers ASAP for obvious reasons.

I tried Stephens AT string, AT F C1 D2 E1 Q0 V1,it hung,
Not sure where to put ATH0 for the hangup string .
I currently have +++ATH , I'm to change that to ATH0  ?,
I currently have hangup response OK, presumeably leave that.
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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

John Rye wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Raffaele BELARDI wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:

How to decypher dialupscript
Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up
window gives you in kppp ?

John

Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older
modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find
explanation for example here:

http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html
raffaele

Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still have
a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a particular
recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download,
then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this causes
kppp to redial with this error message,

ATZ
OK
AT F1 V1
TERMINATION REASON.. NONE
LAST TX rate N/A
HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS
LAST RX rate N/A
HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS
PROTOCOL N/A
COMPRESSION. N/A
Line QUALITY 255
Rx LEVEL 214
Highest Rx State 00
Highest TX State 00
EQM Sum.
RBS Pattern. FF
Rate Drop... FF
Digital Loss
Local Rtrn Count 00
Remote Rtrn Count... 00
V90
OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT147008089916080
NO CARRIER
Question is why no carrier ?
Immediately I redial she logs on as usual.
This has now become a pattern.
I don't understand the scale of report in the F's and the numbers, like Line
QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent.
All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, and although your
suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as far as I can see.
The basic questions I need answering are,
Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make room for others,
Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config.
Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, but I'm not sure) etc.

What do you have in /etc/ppp/options ???
John (nz)

lock
noauth
noipdefault
usepeerdns
John
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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

Margot wrote:
John Richard Smith wrote:
Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
John Richard Smith wrote:
How to decypher dialupscript
Where can I get a list of explanation of the messages the dial up 
window gives you in kppp ?

John


Not sure of what kppp prints since I don't use it, but V90 and older 
modems use the Hayes command set (i.e. AT commands), you can find 
explanation for example here:

http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdenetwork/kppp/appendix-hayes-commands.html
raffaele

Much obliged Raffaele,that was what I'm looking for, though I still 
have a few lines unexplained, this is what I'm getting after a 
particular recurrence like this, kppp logs on and emails download,
then halfway through the process my ISP seems to cut me off, this 
causes kppp to redial with this error message,

ATZ
OK
AT F1 V1
TERMINATION REASON.. NONE
LAST TX rate N/A
HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS
LAST RX rate N/A
HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS
PROTOCOL N/A
COMPRESSION. N/A
Line QUALITY 255
Rx LEVEL 214
Highest Rx State 00
Highest TX State 00
EQM Sum. 
RBS Pattern. FF
Rate Drop... FF
Digital Loss 
Local Rtrn Count 00
Remote Rtrn Count... 00
V90
OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT147008089916080
NO CARRIER
Question is why no carrier ?
Immediately I redial she logs on as usual.
This has now become a pattern.
I don't understand the scale of report in the F's and the numbers, 
like Line QUALITY.. 255, is that good bad or indifferent.

All my searches in google have come up with no detailed explanation, 
and although your suggestion is very helpful it isn't complete, as 
far as I can see.

The basic questions I need answering are,
Am I being cut off because my ISP is overloaded and needs to make 
room for others,

Am I being cut off because of line quality or modem config.
Am I being cut off because of software like guarddog(don't think so, 
but I'm not sure) etc.

Or what ?
John
John,
Judging by your email address, you're using Wanadoo - formerly known 
as Freeserve - as your ISP.

I've noticed a considerable deterioration in their service since the 
rebranding. Although I pay for the Anytime package (unlimited 
access, but limited to 2-hour sessions), the connection often drops 
before the 2-hour limit is up, and sometimes it takes several attempts 
to get reconnected. This makes downloading my Mdk updates a complete 
nightmare!

So, although it is worth checking that everything else is working OK, 
it's probably a Wanadoo problem.

Margot
Indeed Margot you guessed right.
I'm aware wanadoo ( some wag has already christened it can na doo)  is a 
lousy service. But I'm not so sure it's the problem , got a feeling it's 
somthing to do with kppp and the config, or maybe  my OS.

You see I've another computer with an old MD8.1 on it and the same 
characteristic does not happen. That is a dialing up and into and 
retrieval of emails, followed by a premature cutoff before completion, 
kppp redials ending in  no carrier, then,  I manually restart to a 
smooth loggin again.

Yes of course I get cut off, Wanadoo is a lousy service, but then they 
all are, it's just it's probably the least likely to fold of the dialup 
merchants here in the UK.

So if MD8.1 can download emails without being cut off half way through , 
why cannot MD10.0CE ?

So I'm a bit doubtful.
I'm often complaining to wanadoo, for one thing they change their phone 
number more often than I have hot dinners. This suggests to me too 
little kit to service the demand, but before I do battle yet again, I'd 
like to be sure of my facts, that is one reason whyi supplied the kpp 
dialup script. I cannot find a good description of all pieces of script, 
some is pretty obvious, but then again it often ends in a letter or  
number and unless you know the scale to refer these to it's pretty 
meaningless.

I've found a kppp manual on the web, but here again no reference to the 
bits I want.

I would of thought there must be a definition somewhere. Just got to 
keep looking.

John

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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript

Margot wrote:
Martin Foster wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:46:18 +0100, John Richard Smith  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT147008089916080

Why are you using 1470 in front of your ISP's phone number?
Judging by your email address, your ISP is FreeServe. When I had an  
account with them, it was unnecessary to use 1470.

Freeserve is now Wanadoo - or, judging by their service, Wanadon't! I 
use the same number for dialup, and queried this with them - they said 
the 1470 is an essential part of their dialup number, or I'd get 
charged for the call by BT!

That is exactly how I understand it.
John
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Re: [newbie] How to decypher dialupscript