[newbie] Zip drive trouble (or am I a moron?)
Hello, good folks, I have been googling for a whole night trying to find the solution to this problem. Seems others have had it but I can't find the solution... I have a 100 MB Zip drive, on the parallel port. I got it working under RedHat 9, after some configuration. Now I'm trying out - or mirating to - Mandrake 10, and was happy to see that the Mandrake install detected the zip drive right away. Trouble is, even though it gets auto-mounted, I can't see the files on the zip disk - and I can't access them. I've tried unmounting and mounting it, editing /etc/fstab and so forth but can't get it right. I have a hunch it might be something with the permissions but then I should at least be able to read the files as root. This is driving me nuts... Maybe it's something ridiculously simple that I'm not seeing??? Here's what I get on a ls-la (as root) in the /mnt directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt]# ls -la total 19 drwxr-x--- 5 root adm 4096 May 9 23:57 ./ drwxr-x--x 21 root adm 4096 May 9 23:51 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 7 11:11 cdrom/ drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 7168 May 9 23:58 floppy/ drwxrwxrwx 0 root root 0 May 9 23:51 zip/ This is my (current state of) fstab: /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 none /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 And this is my mtab: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 / ext3 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0 none /dev devfs rw 0 0 none /sys sysfs rw 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 /home ext3 rw 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /mnt/zip supermount rw,dev=/dev/sda4,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 Many thanks in advance :-) Mattias Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] zip-drive not being read
mandrake 9.2 amd xp2000+ 256 pc2700 Though Mandrake see's my zip drive (250) it dosen't read it, i have an icon on my desktop and a zip disk in the drive , but when i click on the icon it loads Konquerer with a blank page( 0 files, 0 directories). Tried as root as well with same results. Load same disk in WIN XP,see's files fine, so I know there are files on the disk. Please advise. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] zip-drive not being read
On Sunday 14 March 2004 01:48 pm, acid wrote: -mandrake 9.2 -amd xp2000+ -256 pc2700 -Though Mandrake see's my zip drive (250) it dosen't read it, i have an icon on -my desktop and a zip disk in the drive , but when i click on the icon it -loads Konquerer with a blank page( 0 files, 0 directories). Tried as root as -well with same results. Load same disk in WIN XP,see's files fine, so I know -there are files on the disk. -Please advise. Just a start: type in dmesg dmesg.txt then examine the output to see how the Zip drive is being recognized. Here, my Zip 100 is shown as: hdc: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive Once you have that info in hand, examine /etc/fstab and see what the line for your Zip drive looks like. In fact, post /etc/fstab here so we can see it. You can also right-click on the Zip icon on your desktop and pick properties to see what its showing there. Also, are you running Supermount? Let us know...we'll try to help ya. :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] zip-drive not being read
Go to [newbie] user permissions thre's a copy of my fstab there. On Sunday 14 March 2004 11:55 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 01:48 pm, acid wrote: -mandrake 9.2 -amd xp2000+ -256 pc2700 -Though Mandrake see's my zip drive (250) it dosen't read it, i have an icon on -my desktop and a zip disk in the drive , but when i click on the icon it -loads Konquerer with a blank page( 0 files, 0 directories). Tried as root as -well with same results. Load same disk in WIN XP,see's files fine, so I know -there are files on the disk. -Please advise. Just a start: type in dmesg dmesg.txt then examine the output to see how the Zip drive is being recognized. Here, my Zip 100 is shown as: hdc: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive Once you have that info in hand, examine /etc/fstab and see what the line for your Zip drive looks like. In fact, post /etc/fstab here so we can see it. You can also right-click on the Zip icon on your desktop and pick properties to see what its showing there. Also, are you running Supermount? Let us know...we'll try to help ya. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip drive oddity
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:45, Ronald J. Hall wrote: I've got the usual Iomega Zip drive at /dev/hdc (master, 2nd channel) on my Soyo Dragon Plus MB. I've used it under v9.0 and 9.1 with no problems. I'm able to use it just fine now, cp'ing/rm'ing files no problems. I am getting an odd message in dmesg that I've never gotten before (this is under 9.2): Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 hdc:6end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1 spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3 snip unable to read partition table ide: late registration of driver. I tried booting with 2 different (and known good) zip carts in, as well as with no cart in at all. Same message. I switched IDE cables, just in case. Still the same message. AFAICT - there is no harm done, after all...I am able to use the drive. Its just annonying. Is this one of those semi-harmless, non-fatal messages that I can safely ignore? You're right Ron, no harm is done and I agree, it IS really annoying scrolling thru logs/email with hundreds of lines unnecessarily. You can either safely ignore these messages or, if you don't mind losing supermount, avoid the error messages by adding noauto to the zip drive entry in /etc/fstab. I chose to add noatuo for my cdrom drive a few days ago but I think you may soon become annoyed if you like supermount and use your zip drive often. So far I've only used my cdrom drive once since the change so it has bothered me too much yet and its soo nice getting shorter log files. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip drive oddity
On Wednesday 03 December 2003 06:36 am, Sharrea Day wrote: Hi Sharrea! Thanks for the reply... SD You're right Ron, no harm is done and I agree, it IS really annoying SD scrolling thru logs/email with hundreds of lines unnecessarily. You can SD either safely ignore these messages or, if you don't mind losing SD supermount, avoid the error messages by adding noauto to the zip drive SD entry in /etc/fstab. I disabled supermount almost as soon as I had 9.2 installed. I've never been a fan of it. grin Hmm, don't know about the last part - look at my zip entry in /etc/fstab: /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zipauto user,noauto 0 0 SD I chose to add noatuo for my cdrom drive a few days ago but I think you SD may soon become annoyed if you like supermount and use your zip drive SD often. So far I've only used my cdrom drive once since the change so it SD has bothered me too much yet and its soo nice getting shorter log SD files. SD SD Sharrea Well, I don't much care for supermount so thats not a problem. I can access my Zip easily from the desktop icon, clicking on it, auto - mounts it, blows up a window with contents, then I can umount it, eject it, whatever. I prefer it this way. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Zip drive oddity
I've got the usual Iomega Zip drive at /dev/hdc (master, 2nd channel) on my Soyo Dragon Plus MB. I've used it under v9.0 and 9.1 with no problems. I'm able to use it just fine now, cp'ing/rm'ing files no problems. I am getting an odd message in dmesg that I've never gotten before (this is under 9.2): Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 hdc:6end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1 spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed. end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 unable to read partition table ide: late registration of driver. I tried booting with 2 different (and known good) zip carts in, as well as with no cart in at all. Same message. I switched IDE cables, just in case. Still the same message. AFAICT - there is no harm done, after all...I am able to use the drive. Its just annonying. Is this one of those semi-harmless, non-fatal messages that I can safely ignore? Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Zip drive oddity
I've got the usual Iomega Zip drive at /dev/hdc (master, 2nd channel) on my Soyo Dragon Plus MB. I've used it under v9.0 and 9.1 with no problems. I'm able to use it just fine now, cp'ing/rm'ing files no problems. I am getting an odd message in dmesg that I've never gotten before (this is under 9.2): Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 hdc:6end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1 spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 3 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 5 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 7 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483640 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483641 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483642 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483643 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483644 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2147483645 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 ldm_validate_partition_table(): Disk read failed. end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 2 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 4 end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 6 unable to read partition table ide: late registration of driver. I tried booting with 2 different (and known good) zip carts in, as well as with no cart in at all. Same message. I switched IDE cables, just in case. Still the same message. AFAICT - there is no harm done, after all...I am able to use the drive. Its just annonying. Is this one of those semi-harmless, non-fatal messages that I can safely ignore? Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip drive/hdc=ide-scsi ramblings...(long post)
I tried to manually add my external zip drive to MDK 8.2, following the HowTo, as well as the information given on the Iomega Web. The two clashed a bit on what to do, so I probably never made the right combinations happen for it to work for me. When I decided that I didn't have anything to lose in reinstalling 8.2, I did so with the drive attached and on. MDK 8.3 picked it up very early on during installation and created no problems for me thereafter. As a matter of fact, I have had no supermount problems on 8.2 with my zip drive...EVER! It has only been with the reading/rereading/ejecting of the CD-RW. You have to admit, it's really handy having an eject button on the zip drive that actually ejects the disk when you push it in. :-P Anyway, I am so glad that your conclusions mirror that of what a fresh install did for me. I just wish that you could have come over for a couple of beers and some of the best Italian pizza in the world. I know you would have been able to show me what I did wrong when I was trying to do it manually... :-) T - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:11 AM Subject: [newbie] Zip drive/hdc=ide-scsi ramblings...(long post) Just thought I'd post this in case it helps anyone else who has had zip drive difficulties at one time or the other. When I installed v8.2 of Mandrake, I got a Zip drive icon on my KDE desktop that would not work. Clicking it gave the usual (and now well-read, at least on this list) error messages - doesn't exist, mounted too many times, superblock, blah, blah, blah. So I deleted that icon, edited my /etc/fstab file to show this: /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip vfat nosuid,user,noauto,nodev 0 0 where hdc is the info suppled by dmesg. I then created a new zip icon by right-clicking on my desktop, new floppy device, changed the mounted and unmounted icons, and pointed it to /dev/hdc4. I also edited /etc/lilo.conf to disable devfs. All works well - I can mount, unmount and eject the drive from the drop down menu. Seems like the end of the story doesn't it? WelI thought it was, until I was backing up everything on my system yesterday. I use my zip cart for a catch all for files that I grab. Every so often, I burn a CD of the zip cart, rm all the files there, and start over. (hey, data is *everything*). I started to do that this time, using Gcombust, but guess what happened? Fifo dropped to 1% in about 3-5 seconds and I got a nicy, shiny beer coaster. (not that I can't use another one but...). So what gives? I've pointed Gcombust to the /mnt/zip dir. many times in the past and burnt it in one go. I'd used Gcombust all day to back up files from my hard drive, so it wasn't that. I looked over the error messages from the output window and it got me to thinking. When I edited /etc/lilo.conf, I removed hdc=ide-scsi from it. After all, my Zip is an IDE device at hdc. What the heck, I put hdc=ide-sci back into /etc/lilo.conf and did /sbin/lilo. I did a mount -a as su, and I'm back to where I was originially - I can't access my Zip drive again. So I'm thinking (yeah, it happens) - if Mandrake's install is treating this device like its SCSI, then I should too. I started Galeon, and google-ized (is that a verb?) linux zip drive howto. What I was looking for and found, was info on how to setup an external drive, treated as SCSI. From that, I gleaned that the device I needed to enter into /etc/fstab was this: /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip vfat nosuid,user,noauto,nodev 0 0 sda4. Yep, reran everything, pointed my KDE Zip desktop icon to it, and voila! I can access it again. For final proof, I and add /mnt/zip into Gcombust and it burns it flawlessly. Problem solved. Hope this helps anyone who has a Zip drive - and sorry for rambling so much :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip drive/hdc=ide-scsi ramblings...(long post)
On Wednesday 06 November 2002 02:47 pm, you wrote: Anyway, I am so glad that your conclusions mirror that of what a fresh install did for me. I just wish that you could have come over for a couple of beers and some of the best Italian pizza in the world. I know you would have been able to show me what I did wrong when I was trying to do it manually... :-) T Or vice-versa! Anyways, I sure would have enjoyed the beer 'n pizza! lol -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: I edited my fstab and replaced the existing ZIP entry with the following: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Did not reboot, since I'm told that the changes are automagically made. Typed mount /mnt/zip and got mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device again. Strange. Just for grins, I changed hdd4 to hdd in the ZIP's fstab entry and tried again. Typed mount /mnt/zip and got mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device. I changed the entry back to hdd4 in fstab. Okay, I'm just about out of ideas here. First of all, do a mount -a whenever you make an /etc/fstab change (at least). You are using v8.1 of Mandrake, right? You also do have supermount disabled, right? You do have a good, working Zip cart in your drive, right? You might also try disabling devfs in /etc/lilo.conf, because it conflicts with things sometimes. I had to disable it to get my CDRW to work. If none of these things work, then I guess you'll have to ask for more help from somebody with a little better Linux knowledge than I have. Sorry I could not help more... ;-( -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: Thanks for your help... Here's the info you asked for: * I tried mount /mnt/zip and got mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device Okay. * My /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zipauto user,exec,nodev,nosuid,rw,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 Okay, your line in /etc/fstab for your Zip drive is different than mine (and I'm not talking about hdc and hdd - my zip is master on my secondary channel so that is the way it should be): /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 How about trying it instead? Just change hdc4 to hdd4 (but make a backup of your existing fstab file first). * And from dmesg (anything that looked interesting or remotely related is included here, the rest cut): hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive hdd: 98304kB, 196608 blocks, 512 sector size hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm and my dmesg info is *identical* to yours. Try my fstab entry for a Zip drive and see what happens. Post the results and let us know! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
I edited my fstab and replaced the existing ZIP entry with the following: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Did not reboot, since I'm told that the changes are automagically made. Typed mount /mnt/zip and got mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device again. Strange. Just for grins, I changed hdd4 to hdd in the ZIP's fstab entry and tried again. Typed mount /mnt/zip and got mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device. I changed the entry back to hdd4 in fstab. Here is my entire /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,sync,nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhid e 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1? Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: Thanks for your help... Here's the info you asked for: * I tried mount /mnt/zip and got mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device Okay. * My /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zipauto user,exec,nodev,nosuid,rw,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=85 0 0 0 Okay, your line in /etc/fstab for your Zip drive is different than mine (and I'm not talking about hdc and hdd - my zip is master on my secondary channel so that is the way it should be): /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 How about trying it instead? Just change hdc4 to hdd4 (but make a backup of your existing fstab file first). * And from dmesg (anything that looked interesting or remotely related is included here, the rest cut): hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive hdd: 98304kB, 196608 blocks, 512 sector size hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm and my dmesg info is *identical* to yours. Try my fstab entry for a Zip drive and see what happens. Post the results and let us know! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
You don't need to reboot, you can do a 'mount -a' to mount all entries in fstab. Vijay Mel Roman writes: I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always assumed that fstab was read once when Linux boots, and didn't look at it thereafter. If that's the case, then you'd have to reboot for your new entry to take effect... Mel __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Yes... If you are in LM81, that means devfs is in place. Devfs is probably one of the better advancements in the Linux world within the last few years. It carries with it quite a few advantages; one of which is to actually be able to see what devices have been detected on your system. Of course you can also do this with the /proc directory; however, if you go into the devfs directory you can see the true names of the devices in addition to there being only what has been detected. In the old dev system, when the devices were created on your system, they were all put there at once, wether they existed or not. Devfs puts a brain to the problem, and the daemon only places items in their real designated spots if they actually exist, using a directory structure as a means of categorization, as it was meant to be used. Devfs gives you many other features and abilities, I'm nutshelling one aspect of it here for brevity. Caveat: In order to maintain backward compatibility, softlinks are created in the /dev directory that all correspond to the old device names that used to be there. These names link you up with the *real* device names, the ones that have been properly categorized within their respective directory structures. This is what you are trying to mount when you designate /dev/hdd or whatever. To check what devfs has actually detected on your system, in your scenario you would go to /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 and do something like ls -ail To see what you have. What you see (if anything) is all that you have available to use for mounting. In my case, I see the following: __ [root@tamriel lun0]# ls -ail total 0 374 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ./ 373 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ../ 387 brw---1 root root 3, 0 Dec 31 1969 disc 388 brw---1 root root 3, 1 Dec 31 1969 part1 [root@tamriel lun0]# pwd /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 [root@tamriel lun0]# ___ At this point you may use the real filenames to mount your device. For instance, disc is telling me that that is the device I would use for the fdisk command to create or delete partitions; ie, it represents the whole enchalada of that device. On the other hand, part1 is telling me that there is a partition already there. So therefore I could issue the following command: mount -t vfat /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /mnt/disk which would mount that dos 7.10 drive to /mnt/disk. I just happen to already know that it's formatted as a Win95 LBA partition, so I told mount that it was a vfat filesystem. Telling mount what kind of filesystem you are mounting tends to make it happy. So do a dir of that spot and see what you've got. ;) L8R, LX On Monday 04 February 2002 08:35, you wrote: I've got an ATAPI ZIP drive, and tried the following, based on Roman's suggestion: Mkdir /mnt/zip Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd4 (harddrake reports the ZIP drive as HDD -- it's the 2nd device on the 2nd IDE channel) ...and I got this error: mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device ...so I tried: Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd ...and I got this error: mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device Any ideas? --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Thanks for the message. I am hopeful that this may, yet, be resolved! I mostly want to use the ZIP drive from the terminal (though it would be nice if it were accessible in GNOME as well)... I did what you suggested, and got the following: root.drewvogel:~$ cd /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 root.drewvogel:/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0$ ls -ail total 0 3680 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ./ 3670 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ../ 3810 brw---1 root root 3, 0 Dec 31 1969 disc 3820 brw---1 root root 3, 1 Dec 31 1969 part1 3830 brw---1 root root 3, 2 Dec 31 1969 part2 3840 brw---1 root root 3, 5 Dec 31 1969 part5 3850 brw---1 root root 3, 6 Dec 31 1969 part6 What do I do from here? Thanks for all your help! --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === -Original Message- From: Lyvim Xaphir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1? Yes... If you are in LM81, that means devfs is in place. Devfs is probably one of the better advancements in the Linux world within the last few years. It carries with it quite a few advantages; one of which is to actually be able to see what devices have been detected on your system. Of course you can also do this with the /proc directory; however, if you go into the devfs directory you can see the true names of the devices in addition to there being only what has been detected. In the old dev system, when the devices were created on your system, they were all put there at once, wether they existed or not. Devfs puts a brain to the problem, and the daemon only places items in their real designated spots if they actually exist, using a directory structure as a means of categorization, as it was meant to be used. Devfs gives you many other features and abilities, I'm nutshelling one aspect of it here for brevity. Caveat: In order to maintain backward compatibility, softlinks are created in the /dev directory that all correspond to the old device names that used to be there. These names link you up with the *real* device names, the ones that have been properly categorized within their respective directory structures. This is what you are trying to mount when you designate /dev/hdd or whatever. To check what devfs has actually detected on your system, in your scenario you would go to /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 and do something like ls -ail To see what you have. What you see (if anything) is all that you have available to use for mounting. In my case, I see the following: __ [root@tamriel lun0]# ls -ail total 0 374 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ./ 373 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ../ 387 brw---1 root root 3, 0 Dec 31 1969 disc 388 brw---1 root root 3, 1 Dec 31 1969 part1 [root@tamriel lun0]# pwd /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 [root@tamriel lun0]# ___ At this point you may use the real filenames to mount your device. For instance, disc is telling me that that is the device I would use for the fdisk command to create or delete partitions; ie, it represents the whole enchalada of that device. On the other hand, part1 is telling me that there is a partition already there. So therefore I could issue the following command: mount -t vfat /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /mnt/disk which would mount that dos 7.10 drive to /mnt/disk. I just happen to already know that it's formatted as a Win95 LBA partition, so I told mount that it was a vfat filesystem. Telling mount what kind of filesystem you are mounting tends to make it happy. So do a dir of that spot and see what you've got. ;) L8R, LX On Monday 04 February 2002 08:35, you wrote: I've got an ATAPI ZIP drive, and tried the following, based on Roman's suggestion: Mkdir /mnt/zip Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd4 (harddrake reports the ZIP drive as HDD -- it's the 2nd device on the 2nd IDE channel) ...and I got this error: mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device ...so I tried: Mount /mnt/zip /dev/hdd ...and I got this error: mount: /dev/hdd is not a block device Any ideas
[newbie] Zip drive Access
Hi guys I have installed an internal zip drive into my Mandrake 8.1 machine and I am having dramas getting access to the drive Using hardrake I can find that the zip drive is there as /dev/hdd However if I try to use the mount (i.e. under KDE on the desktop I make a new floppy device link where the device is /dev/hdd and mount point is /mnt/zip) I get an error saying no device or could not mount the device /dev/hdd does not exist Using an article from linuxnewbie.org I was told to modify the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file with: Insmod parport Insmod ppa And also modifying the fstab file with the same line as on my other computer /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Can someone please let me know what I am doing wrong Thanks for your help Rick J PS once I have sorted this I may or should I say will need help in setting up my USB zip drive and USB printer so if you have any pointers for that please let me know, thanks again
Re: [newbie] Zip drive Access
might be an idea to make sure the drive works under windows, and the disk your trying is not a duff. zip drives are not the most reliable beasties Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.comPOV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.ukTEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Keyhttp://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA - Original Message - From: Richard Bartlett To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: [newbie] Zip drive Access Hi guys I have installed an internal zip drive into my Mandrake 8.1 machine and I am having dramas getting access to the drive Using hardrake I can find that the zip drive is there as /dev/hdd However if I try to use the mount (i.e. under KDE on the desktop I make a new floppy device link where the device is /dev/hdd and mount point is /mnt/zip) I get an error saying no device or could not mount the device /dev/hdd does not exist Using an article from linuxnewbie.org I was told to modify the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file with: Insmod parport Insmod ppa And also modifying the fstab file with the same line as on my other computer /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Can someone please let me know what I am doing wrong Thanks for your help Rick J PS once I have sorted this I may or should I say will need help in setting up my USB zip drive and USB printer so if you have any pointers for that please let me know, thanks again
RE: [newbie] Zip drive Access
Thanks, but I just brought it over from my Windoze machine and it was working, the data also came from that machine, so hopefully there is not a drama Thanks J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick [Kitty5] Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2002 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Zip drive Access might be an idea to make sure the drive works under windows, and the disk your trying is not a duff. zip drives are not the most reliable beasties Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA - Original Message - From: Richard Bartlett To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:45 AM Subject: [newbie] Zip drive Access Hi guys I have installed an internal zip drive into my Mandrake 8.1 machine and I am having dramas getting access to the drive Using hardrake I can find that the zip drive is there as /dev/hdd However if I try to use the mount (i.e. under KDE on the desktop I make a new floppy device link where the device is /dev/hdd and mount point is /mnt/zip) I get an error saying no device or could not mount the device /dev/hdd does not exist Using an article from linuxnewbie.org I was told to modify the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file with: Insmod parport Insmod ppa And also modifying the fstab file with the same line as on my other computer /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Can someone please let me know what I am doing wrong Thanks for your help Rick J PS once I have sorted this I may or should I say will need help in setting up my USB zip drive and USB printer so if you have any pointers for that please let me know, thanks again
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: Here is my entire FSTAB: /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,sync,nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhid e 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev 0 0 I see the ZIP drive line at the bottom, but it's quite different than the example you gave. I've modified it to the following: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Is this correct? How do I tell my system to use this new, edited fstab? Hi Andrew. Okay, that looks like mine (now). Rebooting will, of course initiate the changes in /etc/fstab, but its easier just to do (as root): mount -a That should reread /etc/fstab and remount all your listed drives. Don't forget to right-click on your Zip icon under KDE (not sure about Gnome?) and pick properties, then check to make sure its pointing to /dev/hdd4. Hope this helps! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Mel Roman wrote: I don't have to reboot after adding that, or execute any special commands to get Linux to re-read fstab, do I? I DIDN'T! I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always assumed that fstab was read once when Linux boots, and didn't look at it thereafter. If that's the case, then you'd have to reboot for your new entry to take effect... Mel Hi Mel. To save from rebooting, you can (as root) issue a: mount -a and your system will reread /etc/fstab and mount the drives again. Hope this helps! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Negative. /etc/fstab is read by mount everytime it needs to mount something. Additions are no problem. Edits may necessitate unmounting and remounting that device (say if you changed the mount point from /mnt/zip to /mnt/zipdrive for example). -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1? Mel Roman wrote: I don't have to reboot after adding that, or execute any special commands to get Linux to re-read fstab, do I? I DIDN'T! I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always assumed that fstab was read once when Linux boots, and didn't look at it thereafter. If that's the case, then you'd have to reboot for your new entry to take effect... Mel Hi Mel. To save from rebooting, you can (as root) issue a: mount -a and your system will reread /etc/fstab and mount the drives again. Hope this helps! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel). It used to work just fine under 8.0, but since I did a complete wipe-n-install of 8.1, it isn't recognized within Linux. The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are still good. Can anyone offer any help? --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
On Thursday 31 January 2002 09:44, you wrote: I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel). It used to work just fine under 8.0, but since I did a complete wipe-n-install of 8.1, it isn't recognized within Linux. The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are still good. Can anyone offer any help? --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === If you are trying to access it from KDE desktop icon try making a new icon for it. I have the following line in /etc/fstab for my zip drive: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 Those are all on one line of course, but yours should be similar depending on what the system sees as your device, mine shows in harddrake as /dev/hdd4. I had the same problem and just created a new icon and it used the correct nomenclature for the zip where as the installation icon was showing the wrong info in properties. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel). It used to work just fine under 8.0, but since I did a complete wipe-n-install of 8.1, it isn't recognized within Linux. The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are still good. Can anyone offer any help? Hi. We need some more info. What does your /etc/fstab file say about your Zip drive? Mine says (and this is really all one line): /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Also, right click on your Zip icon on your desktop. Choose properties. Make sure it is actually pointing to your Zip drive on your setup. Let us know! ;-) PS Your setup would probably show /dev/hdd4. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
Here is my entire FSTAB: /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,sync,nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhid e 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev 0 0 I see the ZIP drive line at the bottom, but it's quite different than the example you gave. I've modified it to the following: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Is this correct? How do I tell my system to use this new, edited fstab? --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1? Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel). It used to work just fine under 8.0, but since I did a complete wipe-n-install of 8.1, it isn't recognized within Linux. The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are still good. Can anyone offer any help? Hi. We need some more info. What does your /etc/fstab file say about your Zip drive? Mine says (and this is really all one line): /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Also, right click on your Zip icon on your desktop. Choose properties. Make sure it is actually pointing to your Zip drive on your setup. Let us know! ;-) PS Your setup would probably show /dev/hdd4. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
I've added the following line to fstab: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 (I don't have to reboot after adding that, or execute any special commands to get Linux to re-read fstab, do I? I DIDN'T!) When I type mount /mnt/zip, I get: mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === -Original Message- From: Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:08 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1? Here is my entire FSTAB: /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,no dev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,sync,nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev,code page=850,unhid e 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev 0 0 I see the ZIP drive line at the bottom, but it's quite different than the example you gave. I've modified it to the following: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Is this correct? How do I tell my system to use this new, edited fstab? --- === Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the University of Cincinnati College of Pharmacy http://pharmacy.uc.edu (513)-558-3784 === -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1? Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: I've got an internal ATAPI ZIP drive in my box (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel). It used to work just fine under 8.0, but since I did a complete wipe-n-install of 8.1, it isn't recognized within Linux. The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are still good. Can anyone offer any help? Hi. We need some more info. What does your /etc/fstab file say about your Zip drive? Mine says (and this is really all one line): /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Also, right click on your Zip icon on your desktop. Choose properties. Make sure it is actually pointing to your Zip drive on your setup. Let us know! ;-) PS Your setup would probably show /dev/hdd4. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive under Linux-Mandrake 8.1?
On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:07, you wrote: Here is my entire FSTAB: /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,user,exec,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,sync,nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhi d e 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/zip auto nosuid,exec,user,noauto,nodev 0 0 I see the ZIP drive line at the bottom, but it's quite different than the example you gave. I've modified it to the following: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Is this correct? How do I tell my system to use this new, edited fstab? \/ All you need to do is make the changes and save the new fstab, the system will automagically start using it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] zip drive and cd rom locked out
Hi I think I have overcome some of my mount problems as mentioned in a previous email but now I have no access to my CD ROM or Zip Drive. The permission appear to be set but I cannot access them as root or a user. Is there a lock file somewhere I am overlooking? Many thanks in advance. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Zip drive
I plan to buy an external Zip Drive within the next few days, to use with several machines -- including my LM7.2 box. Any reason I should choose USB over parallel port, or vice-versa? Thanks in advance. __ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Zip drive
well, USB is heaps faster then parallel,, If you are sure that you can get usb working, then go for it, its much much faster then parallel... Firewire or USB2 would be much faster again, but normal USB is alot better for throughput then parallel. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Shaw Sent: Friday, 5 October 2001 11:24 PM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] Zip drive I plan to buy an external Zip Drive within the next few days, to use with several machines -- including my LM7.2 box. Any reason I should choose USB over parallel port, or vice-versa? Thanks in advance. __ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Mark Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to buy an external Zip Drive within the next few days, to use with several machines -- including my LM7.2 box. Any reason I should choose USB over parallel port, or vice-versa? Thanks in advance. Yes. Get a USB and leave your pp for a printer. USB Zips have been supported since 7.1. They are easy to set-up and use and with hotplug they can be swapped between systems on the fly. My 1st Zip was a pp, this was years ago in my Win only days. I tried to diasy chain a pp Printer to the drive and both gave me nothing but problems. I gave that drive away and have been using USB since with no thought of regression. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive question
Hi, I have found that the device for ZIP 100 is /dev/sda1 for an ext2 f/s and /dev/sda4 for a DOS or VFAT f/s on the ZipDisk. I hope this helps Cheers, Lin -Original Message- From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 30, 2001 09:07 Subject: Re: [newbie] Zip Drive question It was Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:26:52 -0500 when Dave wrote: OK---this is my second post so I hope this isn't a stupid question.. Will my External Parallel 100 mb Zip Drive work with LInux Mandrake 7.2? Ps: I did finally get the settings right on my USR 33.6 modem(didn't have a manual...tinkered with it till I got it right.) It is not a stupid question. You're stupid when you don't ask! And yes, the zip will work. You have to find the proper modprobe command for it on boot. 1.Turn on the drive and insert a disk. 2.Type modprobe ppa or modprobe imm. This will load the module. 3.Try to mount the drive as 'root': mount /dev/sd[x]4 -t vfat /mnt/disk 4.If mount doesn't complain, you've got it. (from http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hremov2.html ) Then stick the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and you're done (this will require the drive up and loaded though). If you want, you can create a script for that, to run when you need the drive. Paul -- I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest. -Alexandre Dumas (fils) http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive question
It was Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:26:52 -0500 when Dave wrote: OK---this is my second post so I hope this isn't a stupid question.. Will my External Parallel 100 mb Zip Drive work with LInux Mandrake 7.2? Ps: I did finally get the settings right on my USR 33.6 modem(didn't have a manual...tinkered with it till I got it right.) It is not a stupid question. You're stupid when you don't ask! And yes, the zip will work. You have to find the proper modprobe command for it on boot. 1.Turn on the drive and insert a disk. 2.Type modprobe ppa or modprobe imm. This will load the module. 3.Try to mount the drive as 'root': mount /dev/sd[x]4 -t vfat /mnt/disk 4.If mount doesn't complain, you've got it. (from http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hremov2.html ) Then stick the modprobe in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and you're done (this will require the drive up and loaded though). If you want, you can create a script for that, to run when you need the drive. Paul -- I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest. -Alexandre Dumas (fils) http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive - Lost Interrupt
Ron Phelps wrote: I recently installed 7.2 and have the following problem when I boot. If I don't have a zip disk in the drive when I boot, the message hdd: lost interrupt repeatedly prints on the screen and the boot process stalls. At this point if I put a disk in the drive I still get the lost interrupt message. Under 7.0 I also got this message but the boot process continued after displaying this message just once at each bootup. I don't want to have a zip disk in the drive each time I boot. Does anyone have a solution? Is this related to automount? The message does not seem to have anything to do with the zip drive as the zip drive normally mounts on sda4 and not hdd. Please submit your /etc/fstab file. It would be of help to see the exact sequence of error messages. See what you can find inte the syslog and/or errorlog I use automount and I have a zip drive, but I never saw any message like this. /Serafim
[newbie] Zip Drive - Lost Interrupt
I recently installed 7.2 and have the following problem when I boot. If I don't have a zip disk in the drive when I boot, the message hdd: lost interrupt repeatedly prints on the screen and the boot process stalls. At this point if I put a disk in the drive I still get the lost interrupt message. Under 7.0 I also got this message but the boot process continued after displaying this message just once at each bootup. I don't want to have a zip disk in the drive each time I boot. Does anyone have a solution? Is this related to automount? RP
Re: [newbie] Zip drive unmount
Andrew Lazarewicz wrote: Hi! I know this was covered before, but I can't find it. I can mount (by inserting) a zip disk as a user, but I have to unmount (umount) as root. What is the best way just to eject a Zip disk as a user? Thanks! - Andy Andyif it's supermounted then closing the Konqueror window in which you're viewing the contents of the zip disc should unmount it and allow you to eject the media. If it's not supermounted then there's a menu item called Unmount in the right-click menu of the desktop icon that appears in place of the Mount item when the device is mounted. -- Alan
[newbie] Zip drive unmount
Hi! I know this was covered before, but I can't find it. I can mount (by inserting) a zip disk as a user, but I have to unmount (umount) as root. What is the best way just to eject a Zip disk as a user? Thanks! - Andy -- Andrew R. Lazarewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://world.std.com/~alaz Wireless e-mail, voicemail, page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 781-677-3226
Re: [newbie] zip drive permissions
On Sunday 14 January 2001 16:16, you wrote: Dear All, I have been trying to straighten out this zip drive permission problem for months now. I did not have this problem with Mandrake 7. I have LM 7.2 and an Atapi IDE internal zip drive that worked fine at first then just started to refuse me (as user) to access the zip drive. I have tried all previous suggestions, read my books, studied the archives, man pages, everything I can think of. I did chmod, chown, nothing is working.I worked with Linuxconf and the /etc/fstab, etc. I used supermount then did not and nothing worked to give me as user access to opening files or placing files into my zip drive. As user I cannot use my zip drive now at all. As root I can use it just fine. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia Send me the output dmesg cat /etc/fstab ls -l /mnt/* ls -l /dev/hd* ls -l /dev/sd* Civileme And do it off list, please.
[newbie] zip drive permissions
Dear All, I have been trying to straighten out this zip drive permission problem for months now. I did not have this problem with Mandrake 7. I have LM 7.2 and an Atapi IDE internal zip drive that worked fine at first then just started to refuse me (as user) to access the zip drive. I have tried all previous suggestions, read my books, studied the archives, man pages, everything I can think of. I did chmod, chown, nothing is working.I worked with Linuxconf and the /etc/fstab, etc. I used supermount then did not and nothing worked to give me as user access to opening files or placing files into my zip drive. As user I cannot use my zip drive now at all. As root I can use it just fine. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II
Goldenpi wrote: Easy. The problem is that factory formated carts are formated on partition 4. user-formated carts are formated on partition 1. Supermount does not like this. You will just have to mount them manually. Um, small problem. I'm not using Supermount. Here is the relevant line concerning my Zip drive in /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb4 /mnt/zipautouser,noauto 0 0 It will auto-read ext2 or vfat Zip carts. Just won't read partitions set to anything other than 4. Whats the command to format a Zip cart and make it partition 4 at the same time? Since factory Zip carts come preformatted this way, shouldn't everyone be doing the same for consistency? ;-) Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:20 AM Subject: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II I had to set up my zip 100 drive after 7.2 install to be able to mount and umount at will. I followed the guide at http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html I used the part added by jim C. Hope this helps. Tried all the advie, but none of it helped. Both my /mnt/zip and /mnt/cdrom2 (my cd-rw that also won't work) are "locked" directories. How do I "unlock" these pesky *%$#@...? Mike Riffle They are both scsi. You have to mount them as such. its /dev/sd?? for scsi stuff. Zip drives are always on partition 4 (sd?4). This is a good chance to laugh at m$ outlook express email-address regognition feature. Morgantown, WV USA http://web.mountain.net/~kneiper/rifrak.htm Montani Semper Liberi NRA NMLRA Friends of Fort Frederick Prickett's Fort Memorial Foundation
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II
Goldenpi wrote: They are both scsi. You have to mount them as such. its /dev/sd?? for scsi stuff. Zip drives are always on partition 4 (sd?4). Well, let me make a small comment about that. I know its different, I have an internal IDE Zip drive, and I always used 4 as the partition in my /etc/fstab line as well. However, I had my 'Nix box at the local county Library swapping files with the Lib administrator (a close friend of mine who is a Linux admirer as well). If he formatted any Zip cart under Win 2000, my setup could not read it. He even booted up into a MS-DOS floppy environment, and formatted a Zip cart from there and I still could not read it. However, if I change that 4 to a 1...then I can read his formatted carts. Then however, I could no longer read my Zip carts (even though they came from the factory pre-formatted). So...I thought I'd be creative and leave the partition number off from the fstab line. Heh, then it wouldn't read *any* Zip carts. smile Anybody out there know why this is, and if there is a remedy? Thanks! -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II
-my Zip carts (even though they came from the factory pre-formatted). So...I -thought I'd be creative and leave the partition number off from the fstab line. -Heh, then it wouldn't read *any* Zip carts. smile - If it helps I was the system admin at the local library and saw with my own eyes. I, of course, have zip drive problems of my own that no one has been able to comment on (ron posted them for me before I joined the mailing list) Needless to say, if it can be screwed up, I will succeed in doing it:) -- Carl Lafferty | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.netins.net/showcase/carl -The-UQWK-guy-| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.fclib.org Need your daily fix of B5?? Check amazon.com or your local bookstore for B5 in print.
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive, Part II
On Friday 05 January 2001 04:15 pm, you wrote: Goldenpi wrote: They are both scsi. You have to mount them as such. its /dev/sd?? for scsi stuff. Zip drives are always on partition 4 (sd?4). Well, let me make a small comment about that. I know its different, I have an internal IDE Zip drive, and I always used 4 as the partition in my /etc/fstab line as well. However, I had my 'Nix box at the local county Library swapping files with the Lib administrator (a close friend of mine who is a Linux admirer as well). If he formatted any Zip cart under Win 2000, my setup could not read it. He even booted up into a MS-DOS floppy environment, and formatted a Zip cart from there and I still could not read it. However, if I change that 4 to a 1...then I can read his formatted carts. Then however, I could no longer read my Zip carts (even though they came from the factory pre-formatted). So...I thought I'd be creative and leave the partition number off from the fstab line. Heh, then it wouldn't read *any* Zip carts. smile Anybody out there know why this is, and if there is a remedy? Thanks! Yes, you might have to do a search, but I've seen info that indicates you have to use one or the other of 1 or 4 and vfat or efs2 can't do both at the same time. I think I saw this in the HOWTO's. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
[newbie] Zip Drive, Part II
I had to set up my zip 100 drive after 7.2 install to be able to mount and umount at will. I followed the guide at http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html I used the part added by jim C. Hope this helps. Tried all the advie, but none of it helped. Both my /mnt/zip and /mnt/cdrom2 (my cd-rw that also won't work) are "locked" directories. How do I "unlock" these pesky *%$#@...? Mike Riffle Morgantown, WV USA http://web.mountain.net/~kneiper/rifrak.htm Montani Semper Liberi NRA NMLRA Friends of Fort Frederick Prickett's Fort Memorial Foundation
[newbie] Zip Drive Problem
I just upgraded from 7.0 to 7.2 and am having problems getting zccess to my external Zip drive. If I try to access through the dektop icon, I get the message, "Unable to enter File:/mnt/zip. You do not have access rights to this location." If I try as root with Konqueror, I get, "Could not enter directory /mnt/zip" Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[newbie] Zip drive questions?
A friend of mine is trying to install Mandrake v7.2 on his 400mhz/128 meg Ram Pentium. He's got an internal IDE Zip drive that is driving us crazy. This drive is setup as 2nd IDE channel, slave. It works fine under Windows. When we installed Mandrake, it found it, the light comes on the drive, and stays on and never goes off. Also, unless there is a cart in the drive, the installation will not continue. After installation, upon the first reboot, we get the message "irq timeout", although it does continue through a normal bootup. Except that we can't access the Zip drive. Its setup with supermount, and plug 'n pray, er play is turned off in BIOS. Thru v7.0 and 7.1, the same Iomega Zip drive setup on my machine has been found and installed flawlessly. Anyone have any ideas? We tried taking the line for my Zip drive in my /etc/fstab and using it in his fstab but that didn't work either. Something else. I could not read some Zip carts that he had formatted under Windows 2000 and DOS v6.2, although I can read the pre-formatted (DOS) Zip carts that come from our local Wal-mart. My Zip drive is slave on 1st IDE channel, so its /dev/hdb4. Whats weird is that on his v7.2 setup, his Zip drive is assigned hdd1. (I understand why his is hdd, just not the 1). I can set my Zip drive to 1 and it will read the carts he made, but then it will not read the factory pre-formatted carts I have. Set it back to 4, and I can read mine again. Both types of carts were read by Windog just fine. Any ideas on this either? Thanks in advance, and sorry for such a long post! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
RE: [newbie] zip drive
Seems all Zips are technically SCSI. The parallel version uses a SCSI emulation, probably the same case with USB. -Carlton -Original Message- From: Goldenpi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] zip drive I cant tell you about the usb drives, but the parallel zips are scsi. I dont know how but both bindows and linux see them as scsi. - Original Message - From: "Bob Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: [newbie] zip drive Hi all, I have a dell inspiron 3700 pIII 450mhz, I installed ver 7.2 and everything worked fine. When I installed linux I had my usb iomega zip drive installed. During the installation the os found the zip drive, and installed the folder in the mount folder. But when I go to it, it has a lock on it. I went into gtkzip, and it shows the zip drive as having a scsi connection. Even though it found it as a usb drive during install. When the computer boots up, it loads the usb stuff fine, with no errors. Any help would be appreciated Bob
Re: [newbie] zip drive
Makes sense. The drives must be set up as something and scsi is well supported. A quick look through windows system propeties shows 'Iomega parallel port zip interface' under SCSI controlers. Definatly scsi. - Original Message - From: "Dodd Carlton J MSgt 726 ACS/CSG" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:23 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] zip drive Seems all Zips are technically SCSI. The parallel version uses a SCSI emulation, probably the same case with USB. -Carlton -Original Message- From: Goldenpi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive I cant tell you about the usb drives, but the parallel zips are scsi. I dont know how but both bindows and linux see them as scsi. - Original Message - From: "Bob Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: [newbie] zip drive Hi all, I have a dell inspiron 3700 pIII 450mhz, I installed ver 7.2 and everything worked fine. When I installed linux I had my usb iomega zip drive installed. During the installation the os found the zip drive, and installed the folder in the mount folder. But when I go to it, it has a lock on it. I went into gtkzip, and it shows the zip drive as having a scsi connection. Even though it found it as a usb drive during install. When the computer boots up, it loads the usb stuff fine, with no errors. Any help would be appreciated Bob
Re: [newbie] zip drive
Is that zip drive Parallel or usb? - Original Message - From: "Marcia L Waller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive I just installed 7.2 over Mandrake 7. I did the install not upgrade. It seems that everything went smoothly except I would like to get my zip drive icon on the desktop so that I may use it and I would like to get on the internet. I was on the internet with a cable modem and SMCEZ ethernet card , used Netscape 4.7. The installation said that it detected my ethernet card and cable modem I believe. Now I would like to get on. Must I take an extra step to get the DHCP going? Where is Netscape? Thank you for your help. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] zip drive
On Monday 13 November 2000 16:38, you wrote: Hi all, I have a dell inspiron 3700 pIII 450mhz, I installed ver 7.2 and everything worked fine. When I installed linux I had my usb iomega zip drive installed. During the installation the os found the zip drive, and installed the folder in the mount folder. But when I go to it, it has a lock on it. I went into gtkzip, and it shows the zip drive as having a scsi connection. Even though it found it as a usb drive during install. When the computer boots up, it loads the usb stuff fine, with no errors. Any help would be appreciated do the following as root 1) create a symlink between /dev/sda4 and /dev/zip ln -s /dev/sda4 /dev/zip 2) make a mount directory mkdir /mnt/zip 3) add the following line to /etc/fstab /dev/zip/mnt/zipauto user,noauto,nosuid,nodev 0 0 4) add the following lines into /etc/modules # # usb stuff # usbcore usb-uhci usb-storage As a user, change create an icon on your desktop for the zip drive right click on the desktop select create new - floppy change the mounted icon name on the general tab select device /dev/zip on the device tab change the unmounted icon on the device tab click OK Prior to first use, you may need to modprobe for usbcore, usb-uhci, usb-storage as root, if the modules were not loaded at boot time
Re: [[newbie] zip drive]
Bob Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a dell inspiron 3700 pIII 450mhz, I installed ver 7.2 and everything worked fine. When I installed linux I had my usb iomega zip drive installed. During the installation the os found the zip drive, and installed the folder in the mount folder. But when I go to it, it has a lock on it. I went into gtkzip, and it shows the zip drive as having a scsi connection. Even though it found it as a usb drive during install. When the computer boots up, it loads the usb stuff fine, with no errors. Any help would be appreciated Bob == Might this be a permissions problem? Have you tried to access the drive as root? If you can, then just change the permissions to allow all users access to rwx. You might also edit /etc/fstab by adding user to the line for the zip drive. Mike "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Frankilin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
[newbie] zip drive
Hi all, I have a dell inspiron 3700 pIII 450mhz, I installed ver 7.2 and everything worked fine. When I installed linux I had my usb iomega zip drive installed. During the installation the os found the zip drive, and installed the folder in the mount folder. But when I go to it, it has a lock on it. I went into gtkzip, and it shows the zip drive as having a scsi connection. Even though it found it as a usb drive during install. When the computer boots up, it loads the usb stuff fine, with no errors. Any help would be appreciated Bob
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
Thank you for the info. Regards. At 16-09-2000 02:11 AM, you wrote: OK, here I am again with the zip thing. Take a look at " http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html ". See if the directories and files that are in the instructions are there. If not go ahead and do what the instructions say and your zip drive should stay put and not go "AWOL". You may have to right click the current desktop icon (if you have one) and delete it in order to create the shortcut in the instructions. GOOD LUCK, and come back if you run into trouble. Dennis
RE: [newbie] Zip drive
Linux Mandrake 7.1 also set up my zip drive 'auto'. I am surprised. My Zip 100 is "fond of awol" it disappears and appears of its own will, I do not know how to nail it down. Regards. At 14-09-2000 07:04 AM, you wrote: You may want to try 7.1. It set up my zip on my desktop without a single action from me!
RE: [newbie] Zip drive
Thats strange I havent had a problem yet, I wonder what would cause that to happen? On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Linux Mandrake 7.1 also set up my zip drive 'auto'. I am surprised. My Zip 100 is "fond of awol" it disappears and appears of its own will, I do not know how to nail it down. Regards. At 14-09-2000 07:04 AM, you wrote: You may want to try 7.1. It set up my zip on my desktop without a single action from me!
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
OK, here I am again with the zip thing. Take a look at " http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html ". See if the directories and files that are in the instructions are there. If not go ahead and do what the instructions say and your zip drive should stay put and not go "AWOL". You may have to right click the current desktop icon (if you have one) and delete it in order to create the shortcut in the instructions. GOOD LUCK, and come back if you run into trouble. Dennis hugh wrote: Thats strange I havent had a problem yet, I wonder what would cause that to happen? On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, you wrote: Linux Mandrake 7.1 also set up my zip drive 'auto'. I am surprised. My Zip 100 is "fond of awol" it disappears and appears of its own will, I do not know how to nail it down. Regards. At 14-09-2000 07:04 AM, you wrote: You may want to try 7.1. It set up my zip on my desktop without a single action from me! -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
RE: [newbie] Zip drive
I'm not sure if you have a SCSI, parallel or what, but for mine (parallel), I got it working by having a disk inserted and then using the commands "insmod parport" and "insmod ppa" (without the quotes of course). That's all it took. A lot easier than setting this thing up about 3 years ago. Hope this helps. pezcal -- From: David O'Sullivan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Zip drive I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds
RE: [newbie] Zip drive
You may want to try 7.1. It set up my zip on my desktop without a single action from me! On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, you wrote: I'm not sure if you have a SCSI, parallel or what, but for mine (parallel), I got it working by having a disk inserted and then using the commands "insmod parport" and "insmod ppa" (without the quotes of course). That's all it took. A lot easier than setting this thing up about 3 years ago. Hope this helps. pezcal -- From: David O'Sullivan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Zip drive I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds
[newbie] Zip drive
I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
David, go to " http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/mountzip.html " you have to do the changes in Superuser or Root mode on a console. But the directions are straight forward and as a real newbie a couple of months ago I was able to mount my Zip . The second problem I can't help you with, sorry, David O'Sullivan wrote: I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
[newbie] Zip drive
I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. Rgds
Re: [newbie] Zip drive
I have lately installed Linux Mandrake and find it very good,but I have a few small problems: 1.I can't get it to work my zip drive. Don't know zip drives...sorry. 2.I backed up my windows through Mandrake one time when I had to re-boot windows but now it won't let me send the files back the same way from mandrakes to windows. How will I solve these problems. This should be solved by doing the transfer as root if your system is a typical Mandrake installation that's set up the mount for your Windows partition. You can change this by resetting the permissions but it's actually pretty good security to make the pipe between the two operating systems a bit restrictive. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Zip drive vs. scanner
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Hugh wrote: Is it possable my paraport zip might be messing with my scsi scanner? I noticed my zip shows up when I checked my scsi under KDE. 7.1 found my zip and installed it to my desktop. What would I need to do to correct this? If it is a problem that is :) You could try and change the scsi ID on the scanner, perhaps that helps. Paul -- Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them? http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Zip drive vs. scanner
Thanks Paul, But how does one change the scsi id? Can you point me in the right direction? On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, you wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Hugh wrote: Is it possable my paraport zip might be messing with my scsi scanner? I noticed my zip shows up when I checked my scsi under KDE. 7.1 found my zip and installed it to my desktop. What would I need to do to correct this? If it is a problem that is :) You could try and change the scsi ID on the scanner, perhaps that helps. Paul -- Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them? http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Zip drive vs. scanner
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Hugh wrote: Thanks Paul, But how does one change the scsi id? Can you point me in the right direction? That usually is a little rotating device at the bottom/base or underneath the scanner. Paul -- When angry, count to 4. When very angry, swear. -Mark Twain http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
[newbie] Zip drive vs. scanner
Is it possable my paraport zip might be messing with my scsi scanner? I noticed my zip shows up when I checked my scsi under KDE. 7.1 found my zip and installed it to my desktop. What would I need to do to correct this? If it is a problem that is :)
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
Marcia Waller wrote: Dear All, Thank you very much for all of your wonderful suggestions for the zip drive. I will try them. Also, someone asked me to post my /etc/fstab file so here it is:/dev/hdc/mnt/zip msdos user,exec,dev,suid,rw,conv=auto,uid=501,gid=100,umask=0,opt1=va1,opt2=none,o pt3,opt4=2 1 1 Do I go to a terminal window as root to make a new directory? May I make a new directory for the zip with Drakconf and how would I do it? Thank you for your help. Marcia Hmm. First of all, I think (anyone jump in here and help me!) that you should really use vfat instead of msdos, because vfat will support long filenames, and msdos won't. (in your /etc/fstab entry). Which version of Mandrake are you using? 7.0 or 7.1? You need to add a new device, either by right-clicking on the desktop in 7.0, or right- clicking in a window on v7.1. It should be named something like: Zip.kdeink Which will actually reside in your /home/user/desktop directory. You also need to go to /mnt and creat an empty directory called Zip, so you wind up with /mnt/zip. I did this manually, from a shell, and as superuser (su/root). -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
Dear All, Thank you very much for all of your wonderful suggestions for the zip drive. I will try them. Also, someone asked me to post my /etc/fstab file so here it is:/dev/hdc/mnt/zip msdos user,exec,dev,suid,rw,conv=auto,uid=501,gid=100,umask=0,opt1=va1,opt2=none,o pt3,opt4=2 1 1 Do I go to a terminal window as root to make a new directory? May I make a new directory for the zip with Drakconf and how would I do it? Thank you for your help. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
Marcia -- I have a zip drive that works just fine. It's a SCSI rather than an IDE, but I don't think that should matter much. A suggestion would be to put a disk in the drive, and then boot up your machine. Watch the information on the screen to see if the disk comes up (it should be something like /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc, etc. depending on whether it's primary or secondary, master or slave). The number of the device will show you how linux is seeing the drive. For example, my zip drive is /dev/sdd, and the actual volume is /dev/sdd4. If you see this, it should work. If the disk is active, both your drive and the active volume will come up. If the drive comes up, but the active volume doesn't, you may have to define it in DrakeConf/Local File Systems. Hope this helps. pete On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:26:33 -0700, Marcia Waller wrote: Dear Anyone, I would like to get my zip drive to work now. I installed Mandrake 7.0 complete, purchased the OS complete with CDs and guides. I used Partition Magic, Bootmagic, and the supplied graphical installer. My zip is listed in Lothar. It is an Atapi Zip 100 IDE internal drive. I even put an icon on KDE for it but it does not access my zip. I did use the directions in the guide for installation but obviously I did not do something right. Could someone give me step by step instructions for getting this to work? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Marcia Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Phone: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7175 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
Are you able to mount the zip drive via the commandline? In an X terminal type mount /mnt/zip if that does not work, try mount /dev/hdxx /mnt/zip where 'xx' means the number and letter designation of the ide interface that the zip is connected to. On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, you wrote: Dear Anyone, I would like to get my zip drive to work now. I installed Mandrake 7.0 complete, purchased the OS complete with CDs and guides. I used Partition Magic, Bootmagic, and the supplied graphical installer. My zip is listed in Lothar. It is an Atapi Zip 100 IDE internal drive. I even put an icon on KDE for it but it does not access my zip. I did use the directions in the guide for installation but obviously I did not do something right. Could someone give me step by step instructions for getting this to work? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
Marcia Waller wrote: Dear Anyone, I would like to get my zip drive to work now. I installed snip Hi Marcia. Did you creat a mount point in /mnt? It should be /mnt/zip Here is the line from /etc/fstab file for my internal zip drive: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zipvfatuser,noauto 0 0 You also need to do certain things from the KDE desktop. Did you create a new filesystem device? Right-clicking/properties on your desktop Zip icon should show: Filename - Zip.kdeInk Device - /dev/hdd4 Mountpoint - /mnt/zip Filesystem - default BTW, when you check your hardware, does the Zip drive show up? Mine shows up (oddly enough) under floppy drive (using harddrake). The only thing I've not been able to do, is to use both a vfat and ext2 filesystem while in my normal user mode. Under root, I can put a zip cartridge in with either filesystem, and mount it with a right click that lets me choose the FS. As a normal user though, I get the "only su can use mount" error message for anything thats not listed in the /etc/fstab file. If I could get that to work, I'd have it made! smile Well, I hope I've helped, and not confused you more! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
Post a copy of your /etc/fstab file. also, do you have a directory on your system such as, /mnt/zip or /mnt/zipdrive or something along that line? Fred - Original Message - From: Marcia Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: [newbie] Zip Drive Dear Anyone, I would like to get my zip drive to work now. I installed Mandrake 7.0 complete, purchased the OS complete with CDs and guides. I used Partition Magic, Bootmagic, and the supplied graphical installer. My zip is listed in Lothar. It is an Atapi Zip 100 IDE internal drive. I even put an icon on KDE for it but it does not access my zip. I did use the directions in the guide for installation but obviously I did not do something right. Could someone give me step by step instructions for getting this to work? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive
You need to add this line in /ect/fstab:(as root) /dev/hdx /mnt/zip ext2 user,noexec,nodev,nosuid,rw,noauto,sync 0 0 replacing /dev/hdx with whatever your zip drive is, if you have one hd, it should be /dev/hdb, the zip drive is in many respects a (small) hd. You will then need to create the /mnt/zip directory: mkdir /mnt/zip Now all you have to do is mount /dev/hdx or /mnt/zip! Dear Anyone, I would like to get my zip drive to work now. I installed Mandrake 7.0 complete, purchased the OS complete with CDs and guides. I used Partition Magic, Bootmagic, and the supplied graphical installer. My zip is listed in Lothar. It is an Atapi Zip 100 IDE internal drive. I even put an icon on KDE for it but it does not access my zip. I did use the directions in the guide for installation but obviously I did not do something right. Could someone give me step by step instructions for getting this to work? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Marcia -- __ UIN:82189397IM:xKxDxMx E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cashwars.com $$$PROTECT YOUR CASH$$$ Join KDM Power Creed http://powercreed.ods.org
[newbie] Zip Drive
Dear Anyone, I would like to get my zip drive to work now. I installed Mandrake 7.0 complete, purchased the OS complete with CDs and guides. I used Partition Magic, Bootmagic, and the supplied graphical installer. My zip is listed in Lothar. It is an Atapi Zip 100 IDE internal drive. I even put an icon on KDE for it but it does not access my zip. I did use the directions in the guide for installation but obviously I did not do something right. Could someone give me step by step instructions for getting this to work? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Marcia
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive
Hi Chris and Mike: Yes, the zip disk was in the drive. Thanks for the info Chris, I'll try it when I get my other software working with Linux. edison From: "Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:01:59 -0700 Don't know if this has been answered yet, but do you have a disk in the drive? Mike Edison Gica wrote: Hi: i'm trying to install my 100MB Zip drive (external connected to printer port). i tried following the manual but when I click on the icon on the desktop an error message comes up 'invalid block device'. is there a kernel that i have to install first from the LM 7 cd? thanks all. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Hi Gica, Mandrake found my zip drive alright. When you first installed it with your installation disk does it can for scsi devices? If not, you will probably have to manually loan the module and edit fstab. Here is what I done to get my external drive working. Mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sdX4 /mnt/zip You shouldn't have to load parport.o. Since we aren't using pre 5.2. Add the folling line to /etc/fstab /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip vfatuser,noauto 0 0 That entire line needs to be in the fstab file. I use /dev/sda4. That will probably work with you but no guarantees there. Then just type: mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip your drive should light up and initialize. BTW: If you don't have a zip disk in the drive when you tried to access it on your desktop, it will give you an error. :) Here is another way to get it working. My friend had success using this. mkdir /mnt/zip cd /mnt insmod #imm mount -t msdos /dev/sdb4 /mnt/zip Hope this helps! Chris Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive
Don't know if this has been answered yet, but do you have a disk in the drive? Mike Edison Gica wrote: Hi: i'm trying to install my 100MB Zip drive (external connected to printer port). i tried following the manual but when I click on the icon on the desktop an error message comes up 'invalid block device'. is there a kernel that i have to install first from the LM 7 cd? thanks all. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Hi Gica, Mandrake found my zip drive alright. When you first installed it with your installation disk does it can for scsi devices? If not, you will probably have to manually loan the module and edit fstab. Here is what I done to get my external drive working. Mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sdX4 /mnt/zip You shouldn't have to load parport.o. Since we aren't using pre 5.2. Add the folling line to /etc/fstab /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip vfatuser,noauto 0 0 That entire line needs to be in the fstab file. I use /dev/sda4. That will probably work with you but no guarantees there. Then just type: mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip your drive should light up and initialize. BTW: If you don't have a zip disk in the drive when you tried to access it on your desktop, it will give you an error. :) Here is another way to get it working. My friend had success using this. mkdir /mnt/zip cd /mnt insmod #imm mount -t msdos /dev/sdb4 /mnt/zip Hope this helps! Chris
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive
Edison Gica wrote: Hi: i'm trying to install my 100MB Zip drive (external connected to printer port). i tried following the manual but when I click on the icon on the desktop an error message comes up 'invalid block device'. is there a kernel that i have to install first from the LM 7 cd? thanks all. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Hi Gica, Mandrake found my zip drive alright. When you first installed it with your installation disk does it can for scsi devices? If not, you will probably have to manually loan the module and edit fstab. Here is what I done to get my external drive working. Mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sdX4 /mnt/zip You shouldn't have to load parport.o. Since we aren't using pre 5.2. Add the folling line to /etc/fstab /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip vfatuser,noauto 0 0 That entire line needs to be in the fstab file. I use /dev/sda4. That will probably work with you but no guarantees there. Then just type: mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip your drive should light up and initialize. BTW: If you don't have a zip disk in the drive when you tried to access it on your desktop, it will give you an error. :) Here is another way to get it working. My friend had success using this. mkdir /mnt/zip cd /mnt insmod #imm mount -t msdos /dev/sdb4 /mnt/zip Hope this helps! Chris
Re: [newbie] ZIP drive
Not a kernel. No. Just modules you probably have to load - Original Message - From: Chris Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] ZIP drive Edison Gica wrote: Hi: i'm trying to install my 100MB Zip drive (external connected to printer port). i tried following the manual but when I click on the icon on the desktop an error message comes up 'invalid block device'. is there a kernel that i have to install first from the LM 7 cd? thanks all. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Hi Gica, Mandrake found my zip drive alright. When you first installed it with your installation disk does it can for scsi devices? If not, you will probably have to manually loan the module and edit fstab. Here is what I done to get my external drive working. Mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sdX4 /mnt/zip You shouldn't have to load parport.o. Since we aren't using pre 5.2. Add the folling line to /etc/fstab /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip vfatuser,noauto 0 0 That entire line needs to be in the fstab file. I use /dev/sda4. That will probably work with you but no guarantees there. Then just type: mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip your drive should light up and initialize. BTW: If you don't have a zip disk in the drive when you tried to access it on your desktop, it will give you an error. :) Here is another way to get it working. My friend had success using this. mkdir /mnt/zip cd /mnt insmod #imm mount -t msdos /dev/sdb4 /mnt/zip Hope this helps! Chris
[newbie] Zip Drive kernel
Although I can operate my internal ATAPI-IDE Zip drive, at boot up I get the message "fs type not supported by kernel". I found this instruction somewhere about doing something to the kernel in configuring it to recognize the drive. "Do _not_ use the "IDE FLOPPY" option (officially the name is CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY ). This will work perfectly for reading and writing, but it will not work for ejecting. What you need to do is say yes to the option CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI. When this is set, you will treat the IDE ATAPI drive just like a SCSI drive, except without the SCSI card and all that other garbage.." Would anyone know what command/program I must run in order to access the above mentioned options? Am running Mandrake 6. Michael Coady
[newbie] ZIp drive problem
I had to reinstall my Mandrake system. Before, I could unmount my Zip drive by right-clicking and selecting Unmount. This option is no longer there. How do I get it back? Kirk vice versa Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
Re: [newbie] ZIp drive problem
Kirkmy guess would be that you have supermount enabled and supermount desktop icons don't have this option. Alan Kirk McElhearn wrote: I had to reinstall my Mandrake system. Before, I could unmount my Zip drive by right-clicking and selecting Unmount. This option is no longer there. How do I get it back? Kirk vice versa Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
Re(2): [newbie] ZIp drive problem
On 12/05/00, at 11:40, Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kirkmy guess would be that you have supermount enabled and supermount desktop icons don't have this option. ^ It must have been something like that... I deleted the desktop icons, and made new kdelink files and it works now. thanks, Kirk vice versa Translations - French to English, English to French | Technical Writing Traductions francais-anglais, anglais-francais | Redaction technique . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | Chemin de la Lauze | 05600 Guillestre | France
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
"G. Eric Morgan" wrote: I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 snip parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sda: Write Protect is off sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table I think if you put a different disk in (during bootup) your "Unable to read partition etc." might go away.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Had the same problem but 'modprobe ppa' worked...mounted zip from console with " mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipdos" (Had to create empty mount point directory zipdos in /mnt and had to have a dos formatted zip disk in the drive Iomega uses partition 4 [sda4] as default in their preformatted dos disks.)...Works fine. Then added entry to fstab. Added kdelnk to zip drive on desktop and can access the zip with a click of the mouse. Hope this helps Tom T "G. Eric Morgan" wrote: I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 snip parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sda: Write Protect is off sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table - Original Message - From: "Jon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
"G. Eric Morgan" wrote: Thanks for answering! I have tried 2 or 3 disks already tho... I did try an experiement tho. I did the ole lpr textfile.txt and low and behold my printer fired up. I have no idea how to tell what has been compiled into the kernel but I suspect that the parallel printer support has been in the default Mandrake 7. When I try rmmod lp I get it is not installed. Is this correct? Does this mean it must be compiled in statically? I see at boot up the lpd being started and stopped at shutdown. but I cannot find anywhere where it is loaded as a module and I cannot remove it either. Does this mean anything to anyone? Thanks, Eric - Original Message - From: "Jon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem "G. Eric Morgan" wrote: I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 snip parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sda: Write Protect is off sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table I think if you put a different disk in (during bootup) your "Unable to read partition etc." might go away. Do: fdisk -l /dev/sda (With a disk in the drive) It should list the partition table on the disk. If this doesn't work: I don't have printing set up (Don't need it very often) but I think if you do ps aux you might see the printer daemon and be able to kill the process long enough to test. If it works you can always track down the startup for it and remove it. Startup scripts are in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d (console mode) or /etc/rc.d/rc5.d (Start in X)
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
I too have the exact same problem with BOTH Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0. sda4 is not a valid block device. Here is my dmesg file where the parport_pc and ppa is loaded at the end. btw the other SCSI I have is the emulation for the CDburner which I have not yet wrestled with... Linux version 2.2.14-15mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #1 Tue Jan 4 22:24:20 snip parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2,EPP] ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using EPP 32 bit scsi1 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sda: Write Protect is off sda:SCSI disk error : host 1 channel 0 id 6 lun 0 return code = 2701 scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:00, sector 0 unable to read partition table - Original Message - From: "Jon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] zip drive problem Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Bruce Hilliker wrote: Jon wrote: Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I come from the Linux Gazette. Bruce :-) Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.4, 10 January 1999 This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. __ Table of Contents 1. Introduction ---SNIP---SNIP--Cut for brevity---SNIP Thanks Bruce, Pretty sure that the same version of the howto that I own... My point here was to see if anyone has a working parallel port zip under either ManDrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1 as I have both running and neither can use the drive, yet my Slackware can. I see MANY post in this group asking how to do it yet none saying that they DID it. I have owned the drive for some time and used it in many different distros of linux. Since RedHat and Mandrake hope to be the next Windoze style OS (Nobody choke on that, you know it's true) this particular thing should work with a minimum of hassle. PPA ZIP drives have been working in linux for a long time. And since I am on the soapbox: linuxconf is a great program but, it takes it's lesson from M$ and hides everything it does behind the scenes. How will the average joe learn to do admin stuff if he never see's where and what changes were made? Linuxconf NEEDS a "show me everthing" mode. Are you listening RedHat?
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Yeah, I tried the mini-HOWTO for the zip drive a couple of months ago when I was trying to get my parallel port zip going, and I found that the mini-HOWTO is OUTDATED. I spent several days trying to do exactly what it said, trying to recompile the kernel, reinstalling the whole system (mdk 6.1)...over and over and over. Then the tip came from this forum that it's no longer 'insmod' but now 'modprobe'. Then the tip came, just do 'modprobe ppa', stick in a disk and mount it, so I tried it and it worked! All that time, all that frustration, and it could have been so simple! The problem these guys all seem to be writing about appears TO ME to have more to do with Mdk 7 than anything else. A bug? Another change of some sort? Who knows? Seems like Jon demonstrated this by getting his old zip out and trying it with mdk7 -- works for him under the older versions, but not under 7 ... hmmm ... what's the difference between the earlier versions and mdk7? This seems to be the question. So, anyone out there have the answer? Anyone have a parallel port zip running w/mdk7? If you do, seems like there's a lot of people needing your help! Lance Bruce Hilliker wrote: Jon wrote: Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I come from the Linux Gazette. Bruce :-) Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.4, 10 January 1999 This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. __ ...[snip]...
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: I am using the parrallel Zip Drive under Mandrake 7. Works just like it's supposed to, by doing: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip And to eject/insert another disk: umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip Ed Bruce Hilliker wrote: Jon wrote: Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I come from the Linux Gazette. Bruce :-) Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.4, 10 January 1999 This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. __ Table of Contents 1. Introduction ---SNIP---SNIP--Cut for brevity---SNIP Thanks Bruce, Pretty sure that the same version of the howto that I own... My point here was to see if anyone has a working parallel port zip under either ManDrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1 as I have both running and neither can use the drive, yet my Slackware can. I see MANY post in this group asking how to do it yet none saying that they DID it. I have owned the drive for some time and used it in many different distros of linux. Since RedHat and Mandrake hope to be the next Windoze style OS (Nobody choke on that, you know it's true) this particular thing should work with a minimum of hassle. PPA ZIP drives have been working in linux for a long time. And since I am on the soapbox: linuxconf is a great program but, it takes it's lesson from M$ and hides everything it does behind the scenes. How will the average joe learn to do admin stuff if he never see's where and what changes were made? Linuxconf NEEDS a "show me everthing" mode. Are you listening RedHat?
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Jon wrote: Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working. I don't really know if this will help; but check out the attached "text" file. I come from the Linux Gazette. Bruce :-) Zip Drive Mini-HOWTO Kyle Dansie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.4, 10 January 1999 This Document provides a quick reference quide on setting up and using the Iomega ZIP drive with Linux. __ Table of Contents 1. Introduction 1.1 Home of this document 2. Quick Start 3. Configuring a kernel for the ZIP drive 3.1 SCSI version 4. The ZIP drive 4.1 Parallel port version Zip100 4.2 SCSI external version 4.2.1 The ZIP ZOOM host adapter 4.3 The SCSI Internal version 4.4 The ZIP Plus - IMM driver 4.5 ATAPI version 4.6 IDE version 4.7 USB version 4.8 ZIP250 version 5. Using the ZIP drive 5.1 Fdisk, mke2fs, mount, etc. 5.2 An existing DOS formatted disk 5.3 Re-format as a native Linux disk 5.4 fstab entries 5.5 The ZIP Tools disk 6. Performance 7. Frequently asked questions 7.1 Can I plug a printer into the parallel ZIP drive ? 7.2 Do you plan to support EPP/ECP ports in PPA ? 7.3 Can I run Linux from a ZIP drive ? 7.4 Can I boot from the ZIP drive ? 7.5 Why does Iomega use partition number 4 ? 7.6 How can I have the disk mounted at boot time ? 7.7 What happens if there is no disk inserted when I boot ? 7.8 Can I use the parallel drive as a real SCSI disk ? 7.9 Can PPA be used with Iomega's parallel port tape drives ? 7.10 Will PPA work with the parallel port SyQuest EZ135 ? 8. Getting more current information __ 1. Introduction The Iomega ZIP drive is a popular, removable media disk drive. It is avaliable in several versions. · Parallel Port · SCSI · IDE - ATAPI · Plus The most popular seems to be the Parallel port version. It has been around a long time and it is low cost. The SCSI version has also been around for a while but it needs a scsi card that many people do not have already, so it it not quite as popular. The ATAPI version now seems to be more available. The Plus is the newer version of the ZIP drive. It has the capability to detect what port its plugged into, scsi or parallel. This document will focus on the Parallel port version, but also offer some tips for other versions. This document incorporates information collected and published by others, in particular: · Grant Guenther, [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Scot Wilcoxon, [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Joe Mack, [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Byron Jeff, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thank them for their important contributions, and accept responsibility for
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Jon wrote: Idris S Hamid wrote: I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: # modprobe ppa /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busyparport: Device or resource busy modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so modpobe ppa should be correct). I added the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 Please advise, thanks a lot! Best wishes Idris Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? ppa stands for parallel port adapter Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 doesn't work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there one? Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Jon wrote: Idris S Hamid wrote: I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: # modprobe ppa /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busyparport: Device or resource busy modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so modpobe ppa should be correct). I added the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 Please advise, thanks a lot! Best wishes Idris Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? ppa stands for parallel port adapter Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 doesn't work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there one? Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Mani Abreu wrote: Nope. Just tried that, here's the result: mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) I read that the problem may be that the kernel is loading the drivers for the line printer first, before parport/ppa driver. How do I change the order around? Mani forstfed wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, try just doing the mount now. See if that does anything. Well, I tried that. Here's what I got after typing "insmod ppa": /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Any ideas? I really want to get this thing resolved. Mani forstfed wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is what worked for me: As su in a terminal window: mkdir /mnt/zip insmod parport insmod ppa mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip make sure there is a disk in. You have to umount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip to eject the disk, then mount -t msdos /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip again when you insert another disk. Ed Geez, You guys made me dig my old zip drive out of the closet to test this problem and you know, it didn't work either. Tried it on a RedHat 6.1 and a Mandrake 7.0-2 machine. Hardware works as I made a DOS boot disk with guest.exe on it. Worked fine with Redhat 5.2 and Slackware 3.6 some time ago with the commands listed above. I also looked at modules loaded and tried it without any modules and in init 1 hand loading modules. Since the kernel for Mandrake 7.0 came from Redhat 6.1 (Recompiled) I wonder if perhaps lp (or another parallel port using service) support was built into the kernel instead of as a mod. Question! Does anyone out there have a parallel port ZIP working on Mandrake 7.0-2 or RedHat 6.1? If so, can you please tell us how you did it? Give out with the port setting in the BIOS, Kernel you used and anything else you think might help. I am going to try recompiling a kernel to see if I can get it working.
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Jon wrote: Idris S Hamid wrote: I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: # modprobe ppa /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busyparport: Device or resource busy modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so modpobe ppa should be correct). I added the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 Please advise, thanks a lot! Best wishes Idris Do you have an IDE zip or a parallel port drive? ppa stands for parallel port adapter Yet you have your fstab set for an IDE zip drive... Since I have the same problem trying to get Mandrake 7.0 to recognize my PARALLEL Zip drive, my question is: So what? Everything I've seen so have has been targeted toward those with IDE Zip drives. And yes, I have tried the suggestions anyway, yet I receive the same message as above. Trying /dev/sdx4, or whatever variant, doesn't work because M7.0 doesn't recognize the parallel port as a SCSI device, and /dev/hdx4 doesn't work because it's neither an IDE device, or hard drive. And to add to my original question (So what?) I ask: So what *is* the answer? Or is there one? Mani
Re: [newbie] zip drive problem
Hey Y'all, I'm running mdk 6.1 with an external zip100, and for me the fstab entry is not hdd, but 'sda4' and instead of vfat it has 'auto'. This works perfectly for me. Not sure if it's different in mdk 7 or if that's really more of an arbitrary name, but if you haven't tried it yet, might give it a shot? Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not gotten my External Parallel Port ZIP Drive to work yet either. Will advise you though in your addition to 'fstab' file: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 ^ error /dev/hdb if your ZIP is an internal external I am not too sure. The "hdd" is telling your system it is the 3rd Hard Drive or in Windows 'D' drive. In Linux your floppy drive is not in the same category as the HD's, in Linux it is Identified as 'fpx' (x=1,2,3,4 a digit). Your first HD is 'a', second HD is 'b', third HD is 'c', etcetera. Most newer systems can handle up to 4 HD's with out having to use an additional Controller. I am sure most of you are aware of this, I just want to show I do know somthing, even though it may not be of much help. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:04:39 -0500 (EST) Idris S Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: # modprobe ppa /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busyparport: Device or resource busy modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so modpobe ppa should be correct). I added the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 Please advise, thanks a lot! Best wishes Idris YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive is running
My scsi zip250 is mounted on device /dev/sda4 I think the 4th partition is universal, I'm not sure why they use the 4th partition, but I noticed that most zips do, for linux that is, I don't know what windoze zips do. On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Thorsten Brenner mewed: Hello everybody, Now my Zip-Drive is running. The peculiar thing is, that the Drive was recognized as /dev/hda. In a german HOWTO of installing Zip-Drives i read that IDE-Drives can only be mounted as hdd or hda4. I turned the hda in my fstab to hda4 and my Zip-Drive works fine. The stupid thing, I have no other IDE-Drives and i can´t understand why i have to mount it as hda4. Has anybody a idea. By Thorsten -- My new linux web server with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org Sign up for ClickDough and get paid to surf the web. http://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=kittypuss
Re: [newbie] Zip Drive is running
The 4 in there means: "the fourth partition in the first (a) HD". Don't know quite how this applies to ZIP-drives. But then again: if you say it works that way, well... That's the way it works. ;-) On Mar 31 Thorsten Brenner wrote: Hello everybody, Now my Zip-Drive is running. The peculiar thing is, that the Drive was recognized as /dev/hda. In a german HOWTO of installing Zip-Drives i read that IDE-Drives can only be mounted as hdd or hda4. I turned the hda in my fstab to hda4 and my Zip-Drive works fine. The stupid thing, I have no other IDE-Drives and i can´t understand why i have to mount it as hda4. Has anybody a idea. By Thorsten -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[newbie] zip drive problem
I am having trouble getting the zip drive recognized in Mandrake 7.0. Here is what I get: # modprobe ppa /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdksecure/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busyparport: Device or resource busy modprobe imm gives the same message (though I have a 100M drive so modpobe ppa should be correct). I added the following line to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd /mnt/zipdiskvfatuser,noauto,rw 0 0 Please advise, thanks a lot! Best wishes Idris
