Re: [newbie-it] Window Maker
Il 21:09, martedì 30 ottobre 2001, hai scritto: CaMiX ha scritto: L'ho compilato, tutto ok ma non so come avviarlo. Ho provato a modificare lo script startkde specificando di usare come window manager /usr/local/bin/wmaker, ma ho degli errori. togli startkde da $HOME/.xinitrc, poi dai echo /usr/local/bin/wmaker $HOME/.xinitrc (e ripristina startkde, quello serve a far partire kde :)) ) Ciao. Grazie a entrambi. Il mio problema è che .xinitrc non lo trovo (né col find, né, tantomeno, a mano). Come fa a non esserci? Vedo tutti i file nascosti della mia home, ma quello no... :-((( (ho usato ll -a ). Attendendo chiarimenti (spero ;-)) Un saluto CaMiX
Re: [newbie-it] domandina
Alle 16:05, giovedì 1 novembre 2001, hai scritto: Brunini Alessandro wrote: Devo quindi riconfigurare l'Internet Connection Sharing del server, e tutto funziona di nuovo a dovere. ciao, non vorrei dire una stupidaggine ma se non ricordo male sul sito mandrake, tra gli errata relativi alla 8.1 ce ne dovrebbe essere uno su malfunzionamenti dell'internet connection sharing. prova a dare un'occhiata qui: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/81errata.php3 saluti carlo Sembra proprio che le cose stiano come descritto sul sito da te linkato :)) Provo immediately e farovvi sapere a tutti. Grazie e ciao.
Re: [newbie-it] kdm e failsafe
Il 19:03, mercoledì 31 ottobre 2001, hai scritto: [...] Ho attivato lingua e charset come da manuale italia+ISO-8859-15. Se da te funziona, puoi farmi avere Il tuo ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals che lo confronto con il mio? Quando ti ho mandato l'email ero fuori casa e non potevo provare la combinazione di tasti sul mio PC. Provando a casa, purtroppo, non mi funziona con la KDE. Comunque, dalla mappa caratteri della Gnome (ma sotto KDE) ho visto che il codice del carattere dovrebbe essere 164. Bisognerebbe modificare la mappatura della tastiera. Ma non sono pratico dei file di configurazione di X. Se ci riesci fammi sapere. Ciao, Andrea.
[newbie-it] installazione mandrake 8.0
salve e' la prima volta che scrivo . ho installato linux mandrake 8.0 ma non mi riconosce la scheda video, una paradise pipline 64, cioe' quando parte l'interfaccia grafica la risoluzione e' troppo bassa due icone prendomìno tutto il video, qualcuno puo aiutarmi a risolvere questo problema. e' la prima volta che installo linux quindi non so da dove iniziare cia Caspar http://caspar.interfree.it/caspar.htm Noi geni siamo come le stelle quando la nostra luce arriva a voi siamo gia passati da un pezzo.
Re: [newbie-it] domandina
Alle 17:53, giovedì 1 novembre 2001, hai scritto: Alle 16:05, giovedì 1 novembre 2001, hai scritto: Brunini Alessandro wrote: Devo quindi riconfigurare l'Internet Connection Sharing del server, e tutto funziona di nuovo a dovere. ciao, non vorrei dire una stupidaggine ma se non ricordo male sul sito mandrake, tra gli errata relativi alla 8.1 ce ne dovrebbe essere uno su malfunzionamenti dell'internet connection sharing. prova a dare un'occhiata qui: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/81errata.php3 saluti carlo Sembra proprio che le cose stiano come descritto sul sito da te linkato :)) Provo immediately e farovvi sapere a tutti. Grazie e ciao. Funziona! Dei due metodi descritti, rimuovere un file o configurare il Tiny Firewall, io ho fatto il secondo. Ora tutto va alla perfezione. PS: Nel fare una prova ho trovato che è uscito NS 6.2 e infatti lo sto già scaricando. Ciao a tutti e grazie.
Re: [newbie-it] installazione mandrake 8.0
Il 12:40, giovedì 1 novembre 2001, hai scritto: salve e' la prima volta che scrivo . ho installato linux mandrake 8.0 ma non mi riconosce la scheda video, una paradise pipline 64, cioe' quando parte l'interfaccia grafica la risoluzione e' troppo bassa due icone prendomìno tutto il video, qualcuno puo aiutarmi a risolvere questo problema. e' la prima volta che installo linux quindi non so da dove iniziare Non conosco la scheda ma hai provato ad avviare il Mandrake Control Center? Li c'è la sezione che ti interessa. -- Saluti Giovanni Mazzamati mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mazzamati.f2s.com
[newbie] password in network
After reconfiguring many times the network, suddenly the computer appears on the screen oof the windows network. To access however, he asks for passwords. Where do I find/install them? Thanks, Geert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to connect from linux computer to network
Suddenly, my linux computer appears on the wondows network. However, in Konquerer he still says cannot connect to localhost. How do I see the network on my linux computer? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rmove screensavers?
On Mon, 2001-10-29 at 20:33, Michel Clasquin wrote: On Monday 29 October 2001 18:56, you wrote: How do I remove some of the screensavers, an keep the rest? Do I need to delete some files, and can I easily guess the filenames? The xscreensaver modules (used in Gnome and most other environments) are just regular executables and should be in /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver. KDE has its own screensavers, which are all in /usr/bin (Lawd help us, what *won't* they chuck in there?), but can be distinguished because they have a .kss extension. Try these commands in a terminal: locate xscreensaver locate .kss and you should see what is happening on your system. Deleting the ones you don't like is quite safe (you'll need to be logged in as root), though moving them to a temporary directory is perhaps smarter. But keep in mind that your next install or upgrade might put them back and you'll have to re-delete them. Oh yes, and run your environment's screensaver setup applet after you're done, just to tidy up the config files. In KDE you'll find it in kcontrol, in Gnome run xscreensaver-demo. I did all you sayd (I'm using Gnome), deleted the files and ran xscreensaver-demo, but I still have all the screensavers in my controlpanel (and in xscreensaver-demo). What to do then? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Binary newsreader
Yes I use that one too, great app., but can I get it to save all binariy attachements? On Tue, 2001-10-30 at 19:03, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: If you have LM8.1 you already have a WONDERFUL newsreader called PAN. For me it's the Killer Linux App. Agent, and others cannot handle the sheer amount of messages that PAN deals with, with aplomb. E.G. I can download, sort and rethread 240,000 message headers in PAN in seconds. Agent and others choke after 10,000. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Søren Neigaard |Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:52 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Binary newsreader | | |Do any of you know of a newsreader like NewsBin |(http://www.newsbin.com) for Linux? One that can download the |binaries for all subscribed groups. | |Best regards |Søren | | | | | =_1004465052-1734-4230 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Time For Me To Put Back In
Hi All I found a old script, That i updated to find key words ( that i need it to look for ) in my log files. (not sure who ask for thissome timeago) Note the script was from http://dshield.org My Updates http://mozysswamp.yi.org/putback/ Michael FalzonLast Of The BBs SysopMozy's Swamp BBs Red Dwarf BBshttp://mozysswamp.yi.orgRegistered LFS User #406Registered Linux User #204397
[newbie] Time For Me To Put Back In
Hi All I found a old script, That i updated to find key words ( that i need it to look for ) in my log files. (not sure who ask for thissome timeago) Note the script was from http://dshield.org My Updates http://mozysswamp.yi.org/putback/ Michael FalzonLast Of The BBs SysopMozy's Swamp BBs Red Dwarf BBshttp://mozysswamp.yi.orgRegistered LFS User #406Registered Linux User #204397
[newbie] compiling module problems
Hi everyone, I've been having a few problems trying to compile the modules that I want from the kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm supplied with 8.1. I'm using gcc2.96 and can get through compiling the kernel ok, but not any of the modules. The only way I could get all the features I wanted was by compiling a monolithic kernel which is not what I'm looking for. These are the sorts of errors I was getting; field `loops_per_jiffy_R_ver_str' declared as a function nondigits in number and not hexadecimal (lots of these) parse error before `65dda927' missing white space after number `7e9' etc,etc. for each and every module (except I think agpgart). I think I have all the relevant source files in place and have tried using gcc3.0 and the egcs compiler without success on 'make modules'. I've tried umpteen times deleting the whole source and reinstalling from the rpm and still the same. It's strange because I downloaded the 2.4.13 kernel source and tried it and managed to compile the kernel and modules without any bother, only to find that there was no ext3 support included. Anyone got any ideas or suggestions to help me compile the modules from kernel-source-2.4.8-26mdk.i586.rpm for my Athlon and where I might be going wrong ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Zip icons...?
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Ronaldyou'll find that icon stored as /usr/share/mdk/Zip2.desktop. Kill that one as well as the one on your desktop and it'll disappear forever. :) -- Alan Thank you Alan!!! It was really starting to bug me. I had figured out how to get rid of my dog-ugly XawTV icon (it was in /etc/dynamic), and I tried to find a Zip icon there as well. I had even resorted to looking thru scripts, thinking it was originating from there! Thanks again! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means of generating revenue beyond that aquired through the sale of box sets of the OS. Is this exactly the same practice that is being used by MS with WP? No. But the basic priciple behind the approch both are taking is the same, 1 copy of the OS on one system. You may well have a differing view, that is why we each are individuals and each has the 'right' to hold and express their own views. But, as to me personally, I can equate no difference between MS's policies in regards to XP and those being currently employeed by RH. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:06:35 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means of generating revenue beyond that aquired through the sale of box sets of the OS. Is this exactly the same practice that is being used by MS with WP? No. But the basic priciple behind the approch both are taking is the same, 1 copy of the OS on one system. You may well have a differing view, that is why we each are individuals and each has the 'right' to hold and express their own views. But, as to me personally, I can equate no difference between MS's policies in regards to XP and those being currently employeed by RH. Charles I think these things are _very_ different. The Red Hat Network is completely voluntary, and there is no constant nagging to join it as there is in XP to join Passport. Also, the information collected by RHN is limited to basic identification and contact details, along with system configuration information. This is merely to customise updates and notification of those updates for the consumer. RHN doesn't ask for your credit card numbers or all your passports, nor does it try to channel you to specific web sites so that you are less likely to visit competing sites. In fact, RHN is not very different from MandrakeOnline. If you have a problem with RHN, then you have a problem with customised web services in general. Services are the only way that companies like Mandrake and Red Hat can make significant amounts of money, since they are losing money on their distributions. There is nothing wrong with web services, provided that they are carried out in an ethical manner. RHN and MandrakeOnline only collect the information they need to do a specific task. They don't try to cover everything from e-mail to e-commerce, and they don't subvert the user's Internet experience like XP. They also clearly spell out what they are doing, and they don't try to press-gang the user into joining. They are also GPL, so there is no chance of
Re: [newbie] Help with KDE
Bill, These are rather terse answers because I can't tell you at this time exactly how to do these things. I put this under the category of any help and only responded because, AFAICT, no one else has responded so far. William R. Nash wrote: 1. Is there a way i can use JAVA with kongueror with mandrake 8.1. I believe i install java on the computer. Yes. I believe you will have to download a Java something (program) and then install it in konqueror, maybe via a plugin. I can't think of the correct name for the Java program, but I think of it as the Java interpreter. Several varieties are available, including one from IBM. If you search the archives, you will find posts that mention the varieties and make recommendations as to the best. 2. How can i set up the network section under kongueror. I have 3 linux machine running on 200 mhz computer and 1 500 mhz computer running windows xp. I would like to be able to conect to all machine via network. now what i have been doing to ftp program from computer to computer. this is what i have setup. 1 computer running linux mandrake 8.1. firewall ftp and webpage email. internet gateway. 1 computer linux mandrake 8.1 been testing red hat 7.2 test machine 1 computer linux mandrake 8.1 wife computer 1 windows xp due to some software that will not run under linux. Almost certainly yes. The only reason for my uncertainty is that I've heard vague things about limitations in XP about what they allow you to network with -- I vaguely have the impression that all computers networked with an XP computer have to be running XP, but, assuming and hoping that information is incorrect, what you want is Samba which is a Linux equivalent of the Microsoft smb protocol and networking software. You will be able to share files and printers, and the Windows box will be able to find them in Network Neighborhood just like it would if it was networked to other Windows computers. (And, of course, the Linux box can use access files and printers on the Windows box.) I've done a little bit with Samba, I've experimented with smbclient and mounting a windows drive in a Linux box by setting up fstab appropriately. (All this stuff was from several installs ago, so I can't send you a current fstab or smbclient command or configuration.) If you want your Linux boxes to see stuff on the Windows box, all you need is smbclient or modifications to fstab. If you want the Windows box to see stuff on the Linux boxes, AFAIK, a Samba server must be set up on each Linux box. When I attempted all of this, I found instructions that seemed rather simple for the smbclient and fstab stuff, the Samba server seemed to require a lot more reading. (It might be simple enough, I just haven't tried to wade through it.) Actually, I've just moved some pages from by private TWiki to WikiLearn hopefully to help: (These are TWiki pages, so if you find errors or can make them better you can register and edit the pages -- see http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/AboutThesePages.) (I do not consider the pages finished -- I moved them to WikiLearn just now in order to possibly provide some help to you.) http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/Samba http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/InstallingSambaBeginner http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/SambaResources http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/fstabFile http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/SambaMount http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/SambaClientInKonqueror Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] time for a new worm
here's an idea for some bright spark, how about a worm which changes the reg data in XP, and puts a penguin instead of their daft logo. I wonder how long it would take norton etc, to ignore it as well. have fun -- Richard Bown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xp remote access safe?
any xp pc with web services enabled for remote access can be accessed with http://ip/tsweb/ it will give u the xp logon screen. my question is ..is it safe? coz altho i m pro linux , the workstations are m$ territory n the organisation is thinking of upgrading from nt to xp. are there any articles or security warning regarding this? thx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:18:30 -0500, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) It really depends on what you're doing. I wasn't trying to diss ReiserFS in my earlier post - I use it at home and I quite like it. However, every FS has its strengths and weaknesses, and overall I think that Ext3 is a better server FS. ReiserFS is best when space is at a premium (because the tails can be packed), or when you're dealing with many small files. The former case is uncommon in the server arena (since servers usually have oodles of space). The latter may come into play in a webserver environment, where many small HTML and picture files are served. I have little idea of how ReiserFS currently behaves in a RAID environment, which is common on servers. It used to have RAID issues, but now I believe it works... slowly (IIRC). ReiserFS is built using balanced trees, which are generally slow. Nevertheless, Hans Reiser and his crew have done a marvellous job at making ReiserFS a relatively fast FS. Still, I don't think it is a real 'heavy duty' FS, nor was it designed to be. Reiser 4, due 30 September 2002, will be built using the more advanced dancing trees method. It will feature a plug-in architecture, allowing the easy creation and addition of extensions. It will be secure (they're being funded by the US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency), and it should be capable of doing what ReiserFS was originally slated to do - host a database _directly_ on the filesystem. This should dramatically boost database performance, and should make Reiser 4 the fastest FS around for databases. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Microsoft? Is that a kind of a toilet paper? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
On Thursday 01 November 2001 14:06 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means of generating revenue beyond that aquired through the sale of box sets of the OS. Is this exactly the same practice that is being used by MS with WP? No. But the basic priciple behind the approch both are taking is the same, 1 copy of the OS on one system. You may well have a differing view, that is why we each are individuals and each has the 'right' to hold and express their own views. But, as to me personally, I can equate no difference between MS's policies in regards to XP and those being currently employeed by RH. Charles I think that you're missing the point here. Red Hat Network is an entirely voluntary service which you _may_ choose to use or not. It does not affect your use of the operating system in any way. On the other hand there is absolutely nothing voluntary about M$ activation, and it does _not_ provide you with the sort of service that Red Hat Network gives. Regards Pete Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
I don't trust the RedHat Network though. I had a customer that had his entire /usr/bin directory wiped out after running the RH Network daemon. It was a bloody mess. Arthur H. Johnson II The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means of generating revenue beyond that aquired through the sale of box sets of the OS. Is this exactly the same practice that is being used by MS with WP? No. But the basic priciple behind the approch both are taking is the same, 1 copy of the OS on one system. You may well have a differing view, that is why we each are individuals and each has the 'right' to hold and express their own views. But, as to me personally, I can equate no difference between MS's policies in regards to XP and those being currently employeed by RH. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows eXPerience, MandrakeLinux saves the Day-ta
civileme wrote: I knew that extra phone listing might be handy someday. Fussing with a download that wouldn't md5sum and needing it very badly, I was only too happy for the break when the phone rang and I picked it up, saying Mandrakesoft. Errr, I have a REAL problem. Is it with one of our systems? No, he replied, but I'll buy the most expensive boxed set if your system can help me. In the course of a few minutes I learned that this fellow hadf a Dell Dimension P-II 400 with STB Velocity card and Turtle Beach Montego II Sound card, and he had been running Win98 successfully. He had a Microsoft-badged optical mouse and Microsoft-badged USB keyboard. When WinXP came out, his father was the first person in line at CompUSA to buy it at 12:01 am October 25th. So he installed the update. Keyboard and mouse promptly stopped working. His plan was to install linux, copy his vital data over to it, then format the winpartition and reinstall XP cleanly as Microsoft Support (Two hours on hold long distance to Redmond ) assured him if he did that that his keyboard and mouse would work. I told him where to pick up the download edition of 8.1 and he took them. An hour later I had a call, It won't resize Windows small enough. By now it was 7 pm. I went to his computer and brough along a spare 10G disk. I added it temporarily on the spare connector and let him install ML 8.1 to the second disk, making sure he chose GRUB to boot with. Everything worked, and his cable modem connected out of the box--only the advisory popped up to visit sourceforge about the sound card. Transferring his 2.2G of files was a snap, then diskdrake was called to clean up the messy hda, partitioning 3/4 of it for windows and leaving the rest for his rescue system. WinXP balked and insisted on seeing the win98 CD, then it installed, taking out the boot record entry for linux (but we had a boot disk). The mouse and keyboard worked fine until the final reboot then communication ceased. Now out with the win98 disk but it refuses to install over XP. Back to Linux and diskdrake from a terminal su'ed too root to wipe clean again. Win98 now loads after an old installer trick of copying the win98 directory to the hard drive and installing from there. And linux restores the 2.2 G of files it had saved. Now the extra Hdd is removed and win98 is running using mouse and keyboard. Back to CompUSA goes the XP even though one mouse worked long enough to send Redmond the info for the activation Code. Into CompUSA is placed an Order for ProSuite. He already has the Aureal drivers from sourceforge. I know sometimes our system has trouble with a wheelmouse, and a lot of trouble if someone sets the wrong mouse type (3-button emulation kills wheelmice), but this is something I don't think we have ever done. Certified Hardware not running on a new system is a serious flaw, and even a billion dollar advertising campaiggn and midnight starting sales will not correct that sort of flaw. Civileme Civileme: Exactly which support option covers house calls? -- Carroll Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xp remote access safe?
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:23:55 +0200, Mohammed Arafa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any xp pc with web services enabled for remote access can be accessed with http://ip/tsweb/ it will give u the xp logon screen. my question is ..is it safe? coz altho i m pro linux , the workstations are m$ territory n the organisation is thinking of upgrading from nt to xp. are there any articles or security warning regarding this? thx Mandrake has had this sort of feature for quite some time through Webmin. Webmin uses HTTPS, the secure form of HTTP. Using HTTP (not HTTPS) alone, which XP does (according to your post) is VERY insecure. Nothing is encrypted or protected in any way. Things like passwords would be passed over the Internet in plain text. This, combined with the XP feature of being able to be controlled remotely (something that X has been able to do since the beginning, and securely too), is a MAJOR security risk. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it. -- Jean-Louis Gassée, founder of BeOS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 01:40:23 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:06:35 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a problem with RHN, then you have a problem with customised web services in general. Services are the only way that companies like Mandrake and Red Hat can make significant amounts of money, since they are losing money on their distributions. There is nothing wrong with web services, provided that they are carried out in an ethical manner. RHN and MandrakeOnline only collect the information they need to do a specific task. They don't try to cover everything from e-mail to e-commerce, and they don't subvert the user's Internet experience like XP. They also clearly spell out what they are doing, and they don't try to press-gang the user into joining. They are also GPL, so there is no chance of spyware and little chance of insecurity (because of peer review, etc.). I have no problem with RHN as so stated in my previous post. I used it with 7.1 and am currently using it with 7.2 It was not my objective to either vilify RH nor to condone the actions or behaviour of MS. You are speaking of the actuality of the consequences as handled and applied by either party. I was speaking of and comparing only the base concept as being used by both and the common core from which it was derived. We hold differing views on this matter. You need not agree or change to mine, nor I to yours. Both, should, and do, have their place. And each should be respected as such. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
guys... can u guys stop arguing about these stuffs... do u know if microsoft officials are lurking in the list, their smile are from ear to ear... do u want linux to be seperated to different camps? development hindered by disunity like unix? Go ahead and argue about small things... Microsoft is the one gaining... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: 02 November 2001 00:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary Are you saying that you don't trust the entire RHN just because of a bug in the software? Do you think Red Hat did it on purpose? That sounds rather unfair to me. Remember, everything is GPL, just like MandrakeOnline. There is nothing hidden here. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:37:09 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't trust the RedHat Network though. I had a customer that had his entire /usr/bin directory wiped out after running the RH Network daemon. It was a bloody mess. Arthur H. Johnson II The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means of generating revenue beyond that aquired through the sale of box sets of the OS. Is this exactly the same practice that is being used by MS with WP? No. But the basic priciple behind the approch both are taking is the same, 1 copy of the OS on one system. You may well have a differing view, that is why we each are individuals and each has the 'right' to hold and express their own views. But, as to me personally, I can equate no difference between MS's policies in regards to XP and those being currently employeed by RH. Charles -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it. --
Re: [newbie] IRQ`s
FS Hello i have a little problem with my irq`s . FS Since i have quite a lot of hardware in my box there is some sharing. Now the FS problem is that my wintv card shares an irq with my GeForce and since it FS crashes my complete system after running xawtv or zapping as well as any FS other tv prog its obviously not wise that they share the irq with the grafix FS device =). Most probably the irq conflict is causing this, you are right. Especially the graphics card should stay alone, even though there are lots of irq management systems (mean the ones in your board and OS). FS Now i dont know much at all about irq management if someone could tell me the FS comand to change an irq and which irq is free and available in my pc FS here is a cat /proc/interrupts : Unfortunately there is no command that can change irqs, as long as they asre not pnp etc. But even if they are, I never could get success in this. Why ? Because IRQ's are managed by boards more strictly in later systems. FS # cat /proc/interrupts FSCPU0 FS 0: 567487 XT-PIC timer FS 1: 3092 XT-PIC keyboard FS 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade IRQ 3 and 4 seems to be not used. These are the serial ports. If you dont use any of them,or both, shut them off from your bios. FS 5: 0 XT-PIC es1371 You are very lucky your sound card uses irq 5 (I could not manage that) Keep it like this. FS 7: 1 XT-PIC parport0 FS 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc FS 10: 4323 XT-PIC usb-uhci, usb-uhci, eth0 If you are not using any usb devices, shut your usb controllers from your bios. They dont screw things but it would be better. FS 11: 238652 XT-PIC bttv, nvidia I guess your tv card is in slot 1 of your board. Usually in boards the pci slot 1 and the agp slot share the same irq, so change the place of it. FS 12: 90182 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse FS 14: 54881 XT-PIC ide0 FS 15: 7586 XT-PIC ide1 These are all fine. I guess 13 is also being used by something related to CPU, so dont try to use 13. (most probably cant either) FS NMI: 0 FS ERR: 0 FS All devices are listed exept my firewire card which i didnt load yet but if i FS remember right it would, if loaded, use irq 9 but i might be wrong about that. Actually irq 9 is not as fine as irq 5,10,11 etc. but I did not have any troubles using that. Usually boards assign irqs to pci slots, that is like pci slot 3 can only use irq 9 and the irq of the pci slot 6 (something like that). You can find info about this in your mobo's manual, though you dont need to waste your time. Simply, shut down the systms that you dont use, serial port, parallel port, usb etc. After all that, try different combinations of pci slots on your board, after a few tries you will realize how to solve your trouble. Good Luck Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
RMS is the kind of guy who is very easily misunderstood. He is also the kind of guy that tends to go a little overboard with things. In some cases, he mellows out with time, after an initial burst of accusations. In short, he's eccentric. And eccentricity and genius go hand-in-hand :) Red Hat has always prided itself on how it licenses everything it makes for its distro under the GPL. Michael Tiemann is one of the the largest corporate GPL supporters, and I've always enjoyed his writings and speeches. One problem with Red Hat, however, is that it is the most popular distribution. This has made it behave in a somewhat proprietary manner, although within the scope of the GPL. For example, they are not a member of the LSB, since they are already a de-facto standard. Joining the LSB would jeapordise that position. Their move to gcc 2.96 has been very controversial. To see Red Hat's defence, see http://bero.org/gcc296.html. They made a similar move some years ago, when they switched from libc to glibc. This broke compatibility with other distributions, and it took about a year before things were back to normal again. However, in the case of libc/glibc, somebody had to make the move forward in order to progress. Red Hat, being the largest distro company and the de facto standard, took the initiative, and so have been blamed for deliberately making their distro incompatible with others. Without a standards body like the LSB, Red Hat was responsible for the community as a whole. Things should improve in the future, as distros sync with the LSB. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:41:57 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Wigoda) wrote: I just saw Stallman speak last night and he inferred that Red Hat is not GPL. This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1004623536-1734-4670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means
Re: [newbie] now THAT is irritating
Now if you find that annoying, what about a certain server which keeps sending mail back for two reason, 1 his mailbox is full and secondly an unrecognised characterset. probally the 2 little dots above the letter o in the town I'm in regards richard Mohammed Arafa wrote: here we are subscribing to a newbie list and newbies ask questions sometimes other newbies know the answers to other questions but then what happens? we get penalised for asking or trying to help by getting irritating vacation replies like this one: __ Estou fora até ao próximo dia 2 de Novembro, inclusivé. Qualquer contacto urgente relacionado com produtos Compuware deve ser feito através do telefone 217928166 ou pelo email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm currently out of the office. I'll be back to work November, 5th. For any urgent contact please call +351 21 7928160. __ thats FIVE whole days of vacation messages! _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Richard Bown Ericsson Microwave Systems AB SE-431 84 Mölndal e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +46 31 74 72422 mobile +46 7098 72422 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] current state of anti-aliasing in 8.1
all i know is that 8.1 is the install ever that i have tried that did _not_ require a visit to the font deuglification page. :0 On Thursday 01 November 2001 08:29, you spoke unto me thusly: What's the current state of anti-aliasing in 8.1? Is there an easy way to get the system to anti-alias, or does it work out of the box? If it's not working out of the box, is it a reasonable thing to work towards this for the next release? If so, maybe we can incorporate working anti-aliasing into Mandrake packaged programs as well? (like abiword) -- To live is to war with trolls -Isben shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
how do I do that? I just installed mandrake 8.1, but don't really have chance to play with it yet... having exams now... -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 00:52 To: Loke Kit Kai; Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... For a home system, basically nothing. I use it myself. Just be sure to mount your partitions with the notail parameter. However, we are talking about Red Hat, which is a server- and business-oriented distro. I don't believe that ReiserFS is the best choice of FS for servers. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:44:29 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i know wat's wrong with ReiserFS? i thought a lot of ppl using that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: 01 November 2001 22:19 To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
--- Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, quaylar wrote: So you better not run /etc/procmailrc! root privileges!!! Just make a simple one and copy to other users... much better than having a security 'hole'! Then, how do I get this to work? Say I put a .procmailrc in my home directory and another one in my wifes. The point of this is to filter the mail headers so that mail addressed to me goes to my mailbox and mail addressed to my wife goes to hers (we have different addresses that get forwarded to the same email account at my ISP). Now, say I log in. I have a .procmailrc in my home directory, so Linux invokes procmail. My recipe tries to move mail addressed to my wife into her home directory. I'm not logged in as root, so won't this fail? Will this work?? The man page says nothing about /etc/procmailrc. u sure ? and whats this then : man procmail If no rcfiles and no -p have been specified on the command line, procmail will, prior to reading $HOME/.procmailrc, interpret commands from /etc/procmailrc (if present). Care must be taken when creating /etc/procmailrc, because, if circumstances permit, it will be executed with root privileges (contrary to the $HOME/.procmailrc file of course). read more carefully ;) --quay -- == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
oh no... I use ReiserFS for /... how do I change that to wat ever u recommend? or do I have to reinstall the whole system? so sorry that I asked so many questions -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 01:20 To: Loke Kit Kai Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... My /etc/fstab line looks like this: /dev/hda1 / reiserfs notail 1 1 You probably shouldn't be using ReiserFS for /, though. There are some known problems with doing so, but I haven't noticed any (yet). On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:59:53 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I do that? I just installed mandrake 8.1, but don't really have chance to play with it yet... having exams now... -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 00:52 To: Loke Kit Kai; Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... For a home system, basically nothing. I use it myself. Just be sure to mount your partitions with the notail parameter. However, we are talking about Red Hat, which is a server- and business-oriented distro. I don't believe that ReiserFS is the best choice of FS for servers. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:44:29 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i know wat's wrong with ReiserFS? i thought a lot of ppl using that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: 01 November 2001 22:19 To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Computer Networks, 2nd ed, p.25 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] password in network
Are you trying to connect from a windows PC to a linux samba server? If you are, you must make sure that either your windows username is mapped to your unix username in /etc/smbusers (or possibly /etc/samba/smbusers, depending on which version of samba / Mandrake you are using on the server) or a valid unix username. The password is then the same as the one for your unix user account (which, if you want to make things easier, should be the same as your windows user password). Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 11:29 AM 11/01/2001 +, belcoop wrote: After reconfiguring many times the network, suddenly the computer appears on the screen oof the windows network. To access however, he asks for passwords. Where do I find/install them? Thanks, Geert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:10:46 -0800 (PST) Now, say I log in. I have a .procmailrc in my home directory, so Linux invokes procmail. My recipe tries to move mail addressed to my wife into her home directory. I'm not logged in as root, so won't this fail? You will have to give yourself writing permissions in the directory of your wife's home dir for this action to succeed, I'd say. Paul -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Paul Schwebel wrote: Then, how do I get this to work? Say I put a .procmailrc in my home directory and another one in my wifes. The point of this is to filter the mail headers so that mail addressed to me goes to my mailbox and mail addressed to my wife goes to hers (we have different addresses that get forwarded to the same email account at my ISP). Now, say I log in. I have a .procmailrc in my home directory, so Linux invokes procmail. My recipe tries to move mail addressed to my wife into her home directory. I'm not logged in as root, so won't this fail? Yes, in my opinion this will fail miserably. The problem here is that you both receive mail via the same e-mail address (forwarded). There are probably several complicated ways to get this eventually to work, maybe by internally mailing messages accross, but this is of course a pain in the ass. 1 solution I can think of is to export both your mail folders, into a shared folder like /home/mail . In /home/mail you make then 2 folders, one for you, the other for your wife. Give read / write / excecute acces to both these folders of a common user (make something up like homemail or something). Add yourselves into these groups, and then you and her can both write and read into those folders. This way your .procmailrc can direct messages to het straight into her mailfolder. This of course has absolutely no point if you want total privacy, but hey, you married her :-) LOL Not sure what mail program you guys are using, but most standard mailfolders can just be symlinked to the /home/mail/you or /home/mail/your_wife folders. Hope this helps ya, greetings Ralph Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Another Sound problem
Alright, here is what I have: a Dell GX1P with a Crystal Audio CS4232 sound card, on the board It finds the driver but it can't load OPL3. It says YM3812 and OPL-3 driver, OPL3 not detected ff. I run sndconfig and the first test comes back good, I can hear the wav, the midi gives me an error, errors about /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz: init_module: No such device /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz failed /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz: insmod synth0 failed I play the system Beep in Startx but XMMS doens't put out any sound. The display says its playing. I also don't have a /dev/dsp directory. I'm more than a little new, read everything I could and am confused as to what I need to have to get this to work, what I might be missing, and how to go about fixing it. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Old Java /Mozilla Question...
This came from a mail on the Galeon list. It is true for Mozilla, Galeon and Netscape Install mozilla at /usr/local/mozilla. The JAVA plugin ( a symbolic link and java2 JVM) for mozilla should be in installed in directory /usr/local/mozilla/plugins. export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla then run your galeon. It should work. Beware Java plugin for mozilla you should blackdown (j2re1.3.0) or SUn's JAVA2 1.3.0_01. Good luck, I think the last sentence means you should use the SUN jre rather than the download Netscape/Mozilla give you. I assume you know where to get the SUN jre Derek On Wednesday 31 October 2001 15:09, Franki wrote: Hi all, I have Mozilla 0.9.4 build 2001100112 Its working perfectly well, I went to one of my sites which has a JAVA applet in it,, Mozilla poped out and asked me to download the Java plugin, which I did, (for linux of course) anyway, after a long download, the applet still doesn't work, there is a java2 directory in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins So its there, but Mozilla doesn't recognise it and prompts me to do it again.. This has probably been answered many times, but I searched the archives and found no answer.. i do not have NS6.1 installed.. why would I ? I have mozilla, this is running on mdk8.1 (or should I say not working.) any suggestions would be much appreciated. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] The 56K Professional Message Modem in Mandrake 8.1
A sort of pre-sales query -- I've got a 3Com/US Robotics 56K Professional Message Modem, which worked fine with Mandrake 7.2, SuSE 7.0 and 7.1, and currently (on the same PC) with Windows 98 s.e, but not SuSE 7.2. In SuSE's default dialler kinternet (much like kppp except for the security vulnerabilities), a successful connection that progesses beyond the modem handshake is apparently impossible. The same is true of wvdial; rather than a usable connection, xconsole merely reports linux pppd [] Couldn't release PPP unit: Inappropriate ioctl for device. kppp sometimes obtains a successful connection as opposed to a time-out, but not on a reliable basis. It should be pointed out that when the Message Modem is replaced by a Diamond 56e Pro, using the same settings, no problems arise. So I was wondering what results people were experiencing with their Professional Message Modems in Mandrake 8.1... Thanks in advance, Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IEEE-1394 support
On Thursday 01 November 2001 08:47 am, you wrote: I don't know, and don't know much about FireWire, USB, and USB2, but I get the feeling that (1) FireWire will always be more expensive than USB(2), and FireWire will be obsolete before USB(2). Is there something that is driving you to use FireWire instead of USB? I would look carefully at USB(2) before confirming a decision to use FireWire. We are looking at FireWire for compatibility purposes between Mac and PC. Also because it was designed for high-bandwidth peripherals such as digital video equipement, and DVD writing capability, which is something that is relatively common here. USB 2.0 is faster than FireWire currently, but USB and FireWire were designed to compliment one another, not replace one or the other. FireWire can support up to 3200kB/sec (if memory serves me correctly), which even USB 2.0 can't come close to. I used to work for a large company that always used the high price spread -- mainframes were always IBM, never an IBM compatible; chose TokenRing ~10 years ago instead of Ethernet; etc. While those decisions are not the total or primary reason, they are now in chapter 11. Randy Kramer Being a state university, we don't have the luxury of getting the high price ticket items, but do get what we can, taking into consideration student request. Hopefully we won't be going into Chapter 11 anytime soon! :) -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture [EMAIL PROTECTED] 434 (or 804) 982.3047 Registered Linux User #218330 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
Old reiserfs versions, like those that come with 7.2 and before can have problems with disk intensive operations, like runnin postfix on it on a high intake mail server.. I had this problem myself, and it was on a box that only did 6000 odd emails a day.. got heaps of error messages in the logs from postfix reporting file system problems, I asked on the postfix list and its a known issue with reiserfs, which has apparently been fixed with 8.1's version.. I have not had any problems yet,, but have yet to put it on the mail server... in all other areas, Reiserfs has been flawless.. I look forward to the upcoming complete rebuild of it. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Loke Kit Kai Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2001 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... may i know wat's wrong with ReiserFS? i thought a lot of ppl using that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: 01 November 2001 22:19 To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
That can't be true, not according to my understanding of GPL copyleft.. redhat is absolutly chockers with GPL software, not the least of which is the kernel itself, they HAVE to be licensed as GPL,, without GPL, redhat would drop out of the race in a big hurry... not to mention ending up in court.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hal Wigoda Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 12:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary I just saw Stallman speak last night and he inferred that Red Hat is not GPL. This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1004623536-1734-4670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:39:32 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Yes RH is GPL, so is SuSE but you can not dowload a fully functional ISO of it. Being GPL has nothing to do with the basics action that RH leads one to beleive you must take once you have have installed RH. Read the following from the RH site: Get the most out of your Red Hat systems. Red Hat Network is an Internet solution for managing one or more Red Hat Linux systems. All Security Alerts, Bug Fix Alerts, and Enhancement Alerts (collectively known as Errata Alerts) can be retreived directly from Red Hat. You can even have updates automatically delivered directly to your system as soon as they are released. Because Red Hat Network keeps track of when Errata Updates are released and sends you email notifications, it can: Reduce the time and effort required by system administrators to stay on top of the Red Hat errata list Minimize security vulnerabilities in your network by providing the patches as soon as Red Hat releases them Filter out package updates not relevant to your network Schedule Errata Updates so that packages are delivered to selected systems when you want it To start using Red Hat Network today, follow these steps: Create a System Profile by registering your system with Red Hat Network. Just run the command rhn_register on the system. Log in to Red Hat Network and entitle the system to all the Software Manager benefits. Start scheduling updates. If you need help with these steps, refer to the Red Hat Network User Reference Guide. If you are a current Red Hat Network customer, please read The New RHN to learn what has changed and what features have been added. When you register and entitle your system, a profile for that system is created. If you wish to install on another or even change systems and still access the RHN you must first unentitle the original system and then register and entitle the second system. If you should wish to use the RHN on more then 1 system you must purchase additional subscribtions at $19.95 per month per machine. Sure, you can get around this by listing all updates applied to one system and then manually updating on any others that you might have. But how many users would even think of this much less do it. There is nothing wrong with RH doing this, linux distros if they are to stay viable must find means of generating revenue beyond that aquired through the sale of box sets of the OS. Is this exactly the same practice that is being used by MS with WP? No. But the basic priciple behind the approch both are taking is the same, 1 copy of the OS on one system. You may well have a differing view, that is why we each are individuals and each has the 'right' to hold and express their own views. But, as to me personally, I can equate no difference between MS's policies in regards to XP and those being currently employeed by RH. Charles =_1004623536-1734-4670 Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Disposition: inline; filename=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com =_1004623536-1734-4670-- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] current state of anti-aliasing in 8.1
I can't say this for certain, but I think it worked out of the box for me.. opening a file in a text editor in kde is SOO much clearer txt then in 7.2, which is what I had before.. everything txt wise seems clearer, so I am guessing its enabled by default if everything can support it.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Rodríguez Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 12:29 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] current state of anti-aliasing in 8.1 What's the current state of anti-aliasing in 8.1? Is there an easy way to get the system to anti-alias, or does it work out of the box? If it's not working out of the box, is it a reasonable thing to work towards this for the next release? If so, maybe we can incorporate working anti-aliasing into Mandrake packaged programs as well? (like abiword) How do you feel about this? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
I have done that before myself with no problems.. but if you want to change it, it should be the same as any other partition... make a new partition and format it ext2 or 3, (dunno if it has to be at the start of the disk or not, but it couldn't hurt) copy everything from boot into it.. then edit /etc/fstab to point /boot to your new partiton.. reboot.. like I said, I have not done it with boot before, but I did it totally sucessfully with /var in 8.1 (in my case, /var ran out of space and I needed heaps more, so I added another drive (three in that system now) and created /var2 on it.. formated it reiserfs and mounted it and copied everything from var into it.. then edited fstab to mount that new partition as var and removed the entry for the old one.. then rebooted and lo and behold,, it worked. I was feeling rather proud of myself. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Loke Kit Kai Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 1:25 AM To: 'Sridhar Dhanapalan'; Mandrake List (E-mail) Subject: RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... oh no... I use ReiserFS for /... how do I change that to wat ever u recommend? or do I have to reinstall the whole system? so sorry that I asked so many questions -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 01:20 To: Loke Kit Kai Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... My /etc/fstab line looks like this: /dev/hda1 / reiserfs notail 1 1 You probably shouldn't be using ReiserFS for /, though. There are some known problems with doing so, but I haven't noticed any (yet). On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:59:53 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I do that? I just installed mandrake 8.1, but don't really have chance to play with it yet... having exams now... -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 00:52 To: Loke Kit Kai; Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... For a home system, basically nothing. I use it myself. Just be sure to mount your partitions with the notail parameter. However, we are talking about Red Hat, which is a server- and business-oriented distro. I don't believe that ReiserFS is the best choice of FS for servers. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:44:29 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i know wat's wrong with ReiserFS? i thought a lot of ppl using that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: 01 November 2001 22:19 To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Computer Networks, 2nd ed, p.25 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 8.1 PowerPack
Wow, heard alot of bad stuff about mandrakeshop,, I can't say I have experianced that yet, I got my download disks promptly, and the others should arrive in AUstralia any day now... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 2:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 8.1 PowerPack I received today my 8.1 PowerPack which I had ordered through MandrakeSoft. BTW The 8.1 Download edition which I was supposed to be sent to use until the PowerPack was ready were included in the same package. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
well, if u say it will run with no problems, then I wouldn't change it...simply because that was my experiment os... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: 02 November 2001 02:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... I have done that before myself with no problems.. but if you want to change it, it should be the same as any other partition... make a new partition and format it ext2 or 3, (dunno if it has to be at the start of the disk or not, but it couldn't hurt) copy everything from boot into it.. then edit /etc/fstab to point /boot to your new partiton.. reboot.. like I said, I have not done it with boot before, but I did it totally sucessfully with /var in 8.1 (in my case, /var ran out of space and I needed heaps more, so I added another drive (three in that system now) and created /var2 on it.. formated it reiserfs and mounted it and copied everything from var into it.. then edited fstab to mount that new partition as var and removed the entry for the old one.. then rebooted and lo and behold,, it worked. I was feeling rather proud of myself. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Loke Kit Kai Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 1:25 AM To: 'Sridhar Dhanapalan'; Mandrake List (E-mail) Subject: RE: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... oh no... I use ReiserFS for /... how do I change that to wat ever u recommend? or do I have to reinstall the whole system? so sorry that I asked so many questions -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 01:20 To: Loke Kit Kai Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... My /etc/fstab line looks like this: /dev/hda1 / reiserfs notail 1 1 You probably shouldn't be using ReiserFS for /, though. There are some known problems with doing so, but I haven't noticed any (yet). On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:59:53 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I do that? I just installed mandrake 8.1, but don't really have chance to play with it yet... having exams now... -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 00:52 To: Loke Kit Kai; Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... For a home system, basically nothing. I use it myself. Just be sure to mount your partitions with the notail parameter. However, we are talking about Red Hat, which is a server- and business-oriented distro. I don't believe that ReiserFS is the best choice of FS for servers. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:44:29 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i know wat's wrong with ReiserFS? i thought a lot of ppl using that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: 01 November 2001 22:19 To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Computer Networks, 2nd ed, p.25 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Hey can someone put Mandrake 8.1 up in their Morpheus accounts so we can get some serious downloads going
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Re: [newbie] 8.1 PowerPack
In reply to Charles A Edwards's words, written Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:09:50 -0500 Hmmm. I received the download disks a while ago, and the powerpack yesterday. But then, that's easy. I am in Holland, and they shipped it from France. Almost around the corner ;) Paul I received today my 8.1 PowerPack which I had ordered through MandrakeSoft. BTW The 8.1 Download edition which I was supposed to be sent to use until the PowerPack was ready were included in the same package. -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
Ralph,
I can see three possible approaches.
Approach 1:
The one you wrote here makes sense, but I'm not sure
what you meant below by export both our mail
folders. She uses Kmail, and I use Evolution.
Approach 2:
Put the .procmailrc in /etc and have procmail run as
root, though I'm not sure:
1. how to invoke it, and
2. I don't know if procmail runs with root priviledges
anyway, and
3.if I have to setuid it and if this is too dangerous
from a security standpoint, not to mention
4. I don't know if a procmail recipe can put mail in
any folder I specify or if it has to be a subfolder of
{HOME}/Mail.
Finally, we have Approach 3:
Privacy is not the issue. It's just that we share our
email account. Under Win9x this wasn't a problam, but
since Linux really isolates one user from another,
when I get the mail it goes into my inbox and when she
gets the mail it goes into her inbox. I get mail
intended for her and vice versa.
So, the 3rd approach might be to change the
permissions on the directory that fetchmail dumps the
mail into so we can both access it.
Is that easier than the symlink approach you
mentioned? We could each symlink our inbox folder to
where fetchmail dumps it? I haven't much experience
with symlinks, so I'm not sure how the permissions
would work.
However this ends up, I've been learning alot. Thanks.
-Paul
--- Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Paul Schwebel wrote:
Then, how do I get this to work? Say I put a
.procmailrc in my home directory and another one
in my
wifes.
The point of this is to filter the mail headers so
that mail addressed to me goes to my mailbox and
mail
.
.
.
Yes, in my opinion this will fail miserably. The
problem here is that you
both receive mail via the same e-mail address
(forwarded). There are
probably several complicated ways to get this
eventually to work, maybe by
internally mailing messages accross, but this is of
course a pain in the
ass. 1 solution I can think of is to export both
your mail folders, into
a shared folder like /home/mail . In /home/mail you
.
.
.
This of course has absolutely no point if you want
total privacy, but hey,
you married her :-) LOL
Not sure what mail program you guys are using, but
most standard
mailfolders can just be symlinked to the
/home/mail/you or
/home/mail/your_wife folders.
Hope this helps ya,
greetings
Ralph
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Re: [newbie] IRQ`s
Thanx for the reply. I was now trying to do a few things : First my original setup : AGP = nvidia PCI1 = empty PCI2 = firewire PCI3 = soundblaster128 PCI4 = ethernet PCI5 = WinTV ISA = empty First i changed the tvcard wich was in the last pci slot (sharing with nvidia) to PCI slot1 below the AGP slot restarted my box and it was still sharing with nvidia damn . Then i took out the firewire card and put the tvcard into its slot (PCI2) After restarting the system it was not sharing anymore tvcard had irq9 and nvidia was alone on irq11 ... but it kept crashing the whole system so its not about the irq . So i have two questons : first how can it be that the agpslot shares with 2 different PCI slots and how can it be that i have 5 slots but i can only use 3 of them if i avoid sharing the agp`s irq? ( i need atleast 4 of them ) Second question is do you know anything about wintv cards and xawtv why could it be crashing my entire system it seems to be not nice at all. Thanx in advance Florian On Thursday 01 November 2001 17:41, Onur Kucuk wrote: FS Hello i have a little problem with my irq`s . FS Since i have quite a lot of hardware in my box there is some sharing. Now the FS problem is that my wintv card shares an irq with my GeForce and since it FS crashes my complete system after running xawtv or zapping as well as any FS other tv prog its obviously not wise that they share the irq with the grafix FS device =). Most probably the irq conflict is causing this, you are right. Especially the graphics card should stay alone, even though there are lots of irq management systems (mean the ones in your board and OS). FS Now i dont know much at all about irq management if someone could tell me the FS comand to change an irq and which irq is free and available in my pc FS here is a cat /proc/interrupts : Unfortunately there is no command that can change irqs, as long as they asre not pnp etc. But even if they are, I never could get success in this. Why ? Because IRQ's are managed by boards more strictly in later systems. FS # cat /proc/interrupts FSCPU0 FS 0: 567487 XT-PIC timer FS 1: 3092 XT-PIC keyboard FS 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade IRQ 3 and 4 seems to be not used. These are the serial ports. If you dont use any of them,or both, shut them off from your bios. FS 5: 0 XT-PIC es1371 You are very lucky your sound card uses irq 5 (I could not manage that) Keep it like this. FS 7: 1 XT-PIC parport0 FS 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc FS 10: 4323 XT-PIC usb-uhci, usb-uhci, eth0 If you are not using any usb devices, shut your usb controllers from your bios. They dont screw things but it would be better. FS 11: 238652 XT-PIC bttv, nvidia I guess your tv card is in slot 1 of your board. Usually in boards the pci slot 1 and the agp slot share the same irq, so change the place of it. FS 12: 90182 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse FS 14: 54881 XT-PIC ide0 FS 15: 7586 XT-PIC ide1 These are all fine. I guess 13 is also being used by something related to CPU, so dont try to use 13. (most probably cant either) FS NMI: 0 FS ERR: 0 FS All devices are listed exept my firewire card which i didnt load yet but if i FS remember right it would, if loaded, use irq 9 but i might be wrong about that. Actually irq 9 is not as fine as irq 5,10,11 etc. but I did not have any troubles using that. Usually boards assign irqs to pci slots, that is like pci slot 3 can only use irq 9 and the irq of the pci slot 6 (something like that). You can find info about this in your mobo's manual, though you dont need to waste your time. Simply, shut down the systms that you dont use, serial port, parallel port, usb etc. After all that, try different combinations of pci slots on your board, after a few tries you will realize how to solve your trouble. Good Luck Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] security, suse and mandrake.. and permissions
Hi all, both mandrake and Suse have hardening scripts, suse has a file called: /etc/permissions.secure and others to allow you to set permissions or exceptions for stuff loaded after the install.. Does mandrake have anything like that? for example, I get thousands of world writable files messages in the emails the server sends me each night.. most of them are tmp files.. that I didn't put there, but gnome and kde did.. I'd like to know if there is a problem there or not, and if not, can I get rid of the messages relating to those files.. Also, I thought i'd be smart and make ownership for all files in /var/www/html and /var/www/cgi-bin owned by apache.apache that works great, but all of those files are added to the world writable list.. is it a problem?? should I own the files as another user? or create another user with a /bin/false login? whats the most secure method of ownership for html and cgi files ??? if its not secure to be owned by apache, I'll change it, and I want to stop the error messages as well. any thoughts..?? rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Abiword spellchecker
Thanks, Sridhar! While installing abispell didn't change anything for me on a vanilla 8.1, I was able to install 0.9.4 from a src rpm. I chose the gtk rpm as the gnome one had build errors. Now it's working perfectly! And I'm a happy man! -Paul Rodríguez On Wed, 2001-10-31 at 22:40, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Anybody interested in having spellchecking in Abiword can find the appropriate packages here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=15518 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
No, I think I get it. Right now I have fetchmail get our mail. Then, you're saying that I can set up a procmail recipe so that when I get the mail, it sends wife-specific mail to her, and when she opens the mail, it sents husband-specific mail to me. Right? --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:36:53 -0800 (PST) Hi Paul, If you know how to get procmail running on your own account, then there would be a simple solution as long as you have postfix running too. You can set up a recipe for procmail that determines if mail is for you or your wife. If it is your wife's, then just have . . . , the 3rd approach might be to change the permissions on the directory that fetchmail dumps the mail into so we can both access it. -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:12:12 -0800 (PST) No, I think I get it. Right now I have fetchmail get our mail. Then, you're saying that I can set up a procmail recipe so that when I get the mail, it sends wife-specific mail to her, and when she opens the mail, it sents husband-specific mail to me. Right? So it should be. Works fine for me, sending certain mails on to my work account. Paul -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HELP, HElP: emergency recovery needed urgently
Hi everyone: I updated kernel 2.4.7 from 2.4.3 in M8. after updating and rebooting system froze while trying to load second stage booting (i guess). it stays here and does do anything else. I checked in MUO. it says to run rescue from CD (i don't have a floopy boot disk). But i am sure what to do after that. Very important files in hard drive that I must not lose. Please, HELP!!! Thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] HELP, HElP: emergency recovery needed urgently
WEll, I don't know the solution to your problem for sure, I have never upgraded a kernel, I always install it beside the old one, so that if something goes wrong, I can still boot the old one.. that is the recommended way of doing things.. if it was me, in your case, I would boot from the Cdrom, and try to upgrade the kernel... using upgrade instead of install.. I have heard that may work.. or you could try copying the boot kernel from your cd into your boot directory on your hard drive and try to get it up that way.. (you'd have to edit your boot manager as well, so that it calls the rigth kernel.) I have heard that that can work as well. but if you just want to retrieve info.. boot from you mandrake CD, then mount the partition that has the data you want on it, it could be hda hdb hdc or hdd and any of the partition numbers, like hda1 or hdb3 it depends on how you originally installed mandrake, if you only have one hard drive, it will most likely be hda,,,so if it was hda1 you would type: mkdir /mnt/drivedir mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/drivedir you can add the fs system type to that as well, but it may not be necessary.. keep trying partitions till you find the one you want.. once its mounted, you can copy data of it to floppy, or another hard disk if you want to.. I have done this many times.. usually when I want data of an old hard drive when I have upgraded. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 3:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] HELP, HElP: emergency recovery needed urgently Hi everyone: I updated kernel 2.4.7 from 2.4.3 in M8. after updating and rebooting system froze while trying to load second stage booting (i guess). it stays here and does do anything else. I checked in MUO. it says to run rescue from CD (i don't have a floopy boot disk). But i am sure what to do after that. Very important files in hard drive that I must not lose. Please, HELP!!! Thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rmove screensavers?
Ok - Can I comment it out with a #? What should I remove? Here's some of my file, what goes and what stays (stuff like programs and mone confuses me). programs: \ -Qix (solid) qix -root -solid -delay 0 -segments 100 \n\ - Qix (transparent) qix -root -count 4 -solid -transparent \n\ - Qix (linear) qix -root -count 5 -solid -transparent\ -linear -segments 250 -size 100 \n\ - mono:Qix (xor) qix -root -linear -count 5 -size 200 \ -spread 30 -segments 75 -solid -xor \n\ Attraction (balls) attraction -root -mode balls\n\ Attraction (lines) attraction -root -mode lines -points 3\ -segments 200 \n\ - Attraction (poly) attraction -root -mode polygons \n\ Attraction (splines) attraction -root -mode splines -segments \ 300 \n\ Attraction (orbital) attraction -root -mode lines -radius 300 \ -orbit -vmult 0.5 \n\ pyro -root \n\ rocks -root \n\ On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 19:30, Michel Clasquin wrote: I did all you sayd (I'm using Gnome), deleted the files and ran xscreensaver-demo, but I still have all the screensavers in my controlpanel (and in xscreensaver-demo). What to do then? OK, no more Mr Nice Guy! g in your home directory is a file called .xscreensaver (the period in front of the name is important). Load it into whatever text editor you like to use and remove the lines naming the offensive savers. Not that the entries will do any harm (if they're not on the disk, they can't get run), but it is cleaner to have them removed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HELP, HElP: emergency recovery needed urgently
In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s words, written Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:41:50 -0800 A proper upgrade should leave 2.4.3. on disk. Can't you see that in lilo/grub when booting? Paul I updated kernel 2.4.7 from 2.4.3 in M8. after updating and rebooting system froze while trying to load second stage booting (i guess). it stays here and does do anything else. I checked in MUO. it says to run rescue from CD (i don't have a floopy boot disk). But i am sure what to do after that. Very important files in hard drive that I must not lose. -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
A couple of weeks ago i set up fetchmail (among others) with help from this list... Works great now :) Thanks all! Reading all your comments here about the danger of running procmail as root. Is there not a similar warning with running fetchmail as root? If not, what makes feetchmail safe and procmail not? Paul wrote: In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:12:12 -0800 (PST) No, I think I get it. Right now I have fetchmail get our mail. Then, you're saying that I can set up a procmail recipe so that when I get the mail, it sends wife-specific mail to her, and when she opens the mail, it sents husband-specific mail to me. Right? So it should be. Works fine for me, sending certain mails on to my work account. Paul -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:14:52 -0600 Gary Traffanstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for user experiences with Evolution. I'm wanting to switch to it from Kmail only because I like the way it does spell check. I've been using KMail since I first started using Linux and so I know that KMail is quite dependable. Is there anything I should know about Evolution before making the switch? Should I not make the switch and if so, why? Etc., etc., etc. Any input would be most appreciated! I've tried the latest version 0.15 off cooker. I liked the look of the address book which I thought might serve my purposes rather well for listing detailed business addresses. I spent an hour or so carefully filling in addresses, went to create a new category and the machine froze solid putting an end to that experiment. I won't trust it with my data anymore. Evolution is not quite ready for mission critical functions yet. Its also a bit Redmondian for my taste, and I can't figure out how to do *proper* rather than US English in the spell check which makes it less than useless for my purposes. I'll stick with Sylpheed which is in rapid development and coming along very nicely. It handles huge folders (20megs or more) and mailing lists better than any mail client I've ever used. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The 56K Professional Message Modem in Mandrake 8.1
Hi Michael, I have a 3Com/US Robotics 56K Message Modem (it doesn't say anywhere that it's professional on it) and use it with 8.1 and kppp no problems. On Thursday 01 November 2001 5:50 pm, you wrote: A sort of pre-sales query -- I've got a 3Com/US Robotics 56K Professional Message Modem, which worked fine with Mandrake 7.2, SuSE 7.0 and 7.1, and currently (on the same PC) with Windows 98 s.e, but not SuSE 7.2. In SuSE's default dialler kinternet (much like kppp except for the security vulnerabilities), a successful connection that progesses beyond the modem handshake is apparently impossible. The same is true of wvdial; rather than a usable connection, xconsole merely reports linux pppd [] Couldn't release PPP unit: Inappropriate ioctl for device. kppp sometimes obtains a successful connection as opposed to a time-out, but not on a reliable basis. It should be pointed out that when the Message Modem is replaced by a Diamond 56e Pro, using the same settings, no problems arise. So I was wondering what results people were experiencing with their Professional Message Modems in Mandrake 8.1... Thanks in advance, Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux versus WindowsXP Haredware
Title: Linux versus WindowsXP Haredware Hi All, I'm writing this because I'm curious. With all the trouble with WindowsXP having all these hardware issues, isn't it about time to get our thinking caps on and re-focus our attention on the fact at this moment in time we have an opportunity to exploit Linux hardware capabilities. One guy saying he couldn't get his USB keyboard to work under WinXP where Linux could is a prime example. Okay so WindowsXP has almost rock solid stability, but for the first time ever, LINUX SUPPORTS MORE HARDWARE!!!. We need to push this at this time before Microsoft gets it's act together. What are your thoughts on this and I hope it will inspire someone on this mailing list to push this further. This may be the invunerability that could drag Microsoft to its knees. Craig Williamson
Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat...
My /etc/fstab line looks like this: /dev/hda1 / reiserfs notail 1 1 You probably shouldn't be using ReiserFS for /, though. There are some known problems with doing so, but I haven't noticed any (yet). On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 00:59:53 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do I do that? I just installed mandrake 8.1, but don't really have chance to play with it yet... having exams now... -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 November 2001 00:52 To: Loke Kit Kai; Mandrake Newbie List Subject: Re: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... For a home system, basically nothing. I use it myself. Just be sure to mount your partitions with the notail parameter. However, we are talking about Red Hat, which is a server- and business-oriented distro. I don't believe that ReiserFS is the best choice of FS for servers. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:44:29 +0800, Loke Kit Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i know wat's wrong with ReiserFS? i thought a lot of ppl using that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: 01 November 2001 22:19 To: Mandrake Newbie List Subject: [newbie] Reiser FS/ext3/Redhat... Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think that Red Hat had a very valid reason _not_ to include ReiserFS. You must remember that Red Hat is a server distro that prizes security and reliability Hi! Just as an observation, while on the Linux Lunacy trip, I got a chance to hear Michael Johnson of Redhat speak. He was asked by a software engineer from Brussels why not ReiserFS. Michael made comments to the effect of what you just said. However, to be fair, didn't ext3 fail Civileme's sledgehammer hardware test? So...I guess there are valid concerns both ways. Once the ReiserFS gets a little maturity, do you think it will stack up better serverwise, against the ext3 fs? Later! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Computer Networks, 2nd ed, p.25 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Alternative to ICQ?
Jabber is a great open source IM protocol. Gabber, a Jabber client, allows you to connect to he MSN, ICQ and Yahoo networks as well. It has some features that you won't find in the mainstream IM services, like encryption. There are Windows Jabber clients as well. Go to jabber.com and jabber.org for more info. On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:56:11 -0600, Mark D'voo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about jabber On Thursday 01 November 2001 04:43 pm, you wrote: ICQ has been really messing up lately, or maybe its something to do with my firewall, either way what the list suggest for IM between this linux box and windows users. Something that is fairly secure and has decent features but easy for windows people to install. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The only intuitive interface is a nipple. After that, it's all learned. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows eXPerience, MandrakeLinux saves the Day-ta
On Thursday 01 November 2001 07:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: civileme wrote: I knew that extra phone listing might be handy someday. Fussing with a download that wouldn't md5sum and needing it very badly, I was only too happy for the break when the phone rang and I picked it up, saying Mandrakesoft. Errr, I have a REAL problem. Is it with one of our systems? No, he replied, but I'll buy the most expensive boxed set if your system can help me. In the course of a few minutes I learned that this fellow hadf a Dell Dimension P-II 400 with STB Velocity card and Turtle Beach Montego II Sound card, and he had been running Win98 successfully. He had a Microsoft-badged optical mouse and Microsoft-badged USB keyboard. When WinXP came out, his father was the first person in line at CompUSA to buy it at 12:01 am October 25th. So he installed the update. Keyboard and mouse promptly stopped working. His plan was to install linux, copy his vital data over to it, then format the winpartition and reinstall XP cleanly as Microsoft Support (Two hours on hold long distance to Redmond ) assured him if he did that that his keyboard and mouse would work. I told him where to pick up the download edition of 8.1 and he took them. An hour later I had a call, It won't resize Windows small enough. By now it was 7 pm. I went to his computer and brough along a spare 10G disk. I added it temporarily on the spare connector and let him install ML 8.1 to the second disk, making sure he chose GRUB to boot with. Everything worked, and his cable modem connected out of the box--only the advisory popped up to visit sourceforge about the sound card. Transferring his 2.2G of files was a snap, then diskdrake was called to clean up the messy hda, partitioning 3/4 of it for windows and leaving the rest for his rescue system. WinXP balked and insisted on seeing the win98 CD, then it installed, taking out the boot record entry for linux (but we had a boot disk). The mouse and keyboard worked fine until the final reboot then communication ceased. Now out with the win98 disk but it refuses to install over XP. Back to Linux and diskdrake from a terminal su'ed too root to wipe clean again. Win98 now loads after an old installer trick of copying the win98 directory to the hard drive and installing from there. And linux restores the 2.2 G of files it had saved. Now the extra Hdd is removed and win98 is running using mouse and keyboard. Back to CompUSA goes the XP even though one mouse worked long enough to send Redmond the info for the activation Code. Into CompUSA is placed an Order for ProSuite. He already has the Aureal drivers from sourceforge. I know sometimes our system has trouble with a wheelmouse, and a lot of trouble if someone sets the wrong mouse type (3-button emulation kills wheelmice), but this is something I don't think we have ever done. Certified Hardware not running on a new system is a serious flaw, and even a billion dollar advertising campaiggn and midnight starting sales will not correct that sort of flaw. Civileme Civileme: Exactly which support option covers house calls? -- Carroll Well, you buy the new ProSuite coming out soon--the one with a long support option Then you move to Anchorage, Alaska... Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution
Right off the bat, I have a problem with Evolution - get an error message when trying to GPG encrypt and/or sign a message. Is there an FAQ for this mail program or does anyone know why I get malformed user ID? GnuPG works fine with Kmail. On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 18:33, shipahoy wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:14:52 -0600 Gary Traffanstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for user experiences with Evolution. I'm wanting to switch to it from Kmail only because I like the way it does spell check. I've been using KMail since I first started using Linux and so I know that KMail is quite dependable. Is there anything I should know about Evolution before making the switch? Should I not make the switch and if so, why? Etc., etc., etc. Any input would be most appreciated! I've tried the latest version 0.15 off cooker. I liked the look of the address book which I thought might serve my purposes rather well for listing detailed business addresses. I spent an hour or so carefully filling in addresses, went to create a new category and the machine froze solid putting an end to that experiment. I won't trust it with my data anymore. Evolution is not quite ready for mission critical functions yet. Its also a bit Redmondian for my taste, and I can't figure out how to do *proper* rather than US English in the spell check which makes it less than useless for my purposes. I'll stick with Sylpheed which is in rapid development and coming along very nicely. It handles huge folders (20megs or more) and mailing lists better than any mail client I've ever used. =_1004661224-1734-4804 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Old Java /Mozilla Question...
What's wrong with leaving it where the rpm put mozilla (/usr/bin)? At 05:44 PM 11/1/2001 +, Derek Jennings wrote: This came from a mail on the Galeon list. It is true for Mozilla, Galeon and Netscape Install mozilla at /usr/local/mozilla. The JAVA plugin ( a symbolic link and java2 JVM) for mozilla should be in installed in directory /usr/local/mozilla/plugins. export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla then run your galeon. It should work. Beware Java plugin for mozilla you should blackdown (j2re1.3.0) or SUn's JAVA2 1.3.0_01. Good luck, I think the last sentence means you should use the SUN jre rather than the download Netscape/Mozilla give you. I assume you know where to get the SUN jre Derek On Wednesday 31 October 2001 15:09, Franki wrote: Hi all, I have Mozilla 0.9.4 build 2001100112 Its working perfectly well, I went to one of my sites which has a JAVA applet in it,, Mozilla poped out and asked me to download the Java plugin, which I did, (for linux of course) anyway, after a long download, the applet still doesn't work, there is a java2 directory in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins So its there, but Mozilla doesn't recognise it and prompts me to do it again.. This has probably been answered many times, but I searched the archives and found no answer.. i do not have NS6.1 installed.. why would I ? I have mozilla, this is running on mdk8.1 (or should I say not working.) any suggestions would be much appreciated. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Pentium IV
I'm thinking (actually I've already ordered) a new motherboard and an intel pentium IV chip. Personally speaking you're way better off with an Athlon system. Intel brought out the IV far too quickly IMHO and from reading others' comments, they really botched the design. Athlons of a lower clock frequency can easily outperform higher-clocked IVs, and the Athlon is a far cheaper solution. The downside - you have to get a different mb for the Athlon, but that's probably true of the IV as well. Durons are cheaper still, but the lack of the extra cache that the Athlon provides can stall things. Athlons (particularly with respect to AMD's heat sink, if you get a retail boxed version of the processor) can be hard to install because it's difficult to put on the heat sink if you're not experienced in working that. I saw a tech do it easily and I was amazed -- but then again, he had a proper tool. I got ouch all over my fingers :). David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] AOL Email.pl!pls help
To all my friends in Mandrake I have perl porgram that sends info to my e-mail.i called it email.pl it is inserted on the send botton of my html page but when i uploaded the webpage in the internet and i fillout the information of the page and click the botton send.when i check my e-mail i did not send an e-mail or info about who register or fill-out my my webpage.Is there something wrong? can u pls e-mail me a .pl program or perl program that parse the info and send to my e-mail. Pls help! Thanks and more power! Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kmail Problem
Kmail is a bit choosy when sending out emails. It works when I send to some addresses, and doesn't with others. A dialog box appears which has the following error, verbatim: Sending failed: a SMTP error occured Command: DATA Response: 250 2.1.5 email@address ... Recipient ok The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the problem (e.g. broken address) or remove the message from he 'outbox' folder. Note: other messages will also be blocked by this message, as long as it is in the 'outbox' folder The following transport protocol was used: smtp://smtp.info.com.ph:25 --- The funny thing about it is that when I put the same address in the Cc field instead of the To field, it would work perfectly. Oh, and if I put the same address in both the To field and the Cc field. How can I fix this? Meg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Questions, questions and more questions from a potential buyer
Dear Sir/Madam: Good day! I am an avid gamer and I plan to migrate to Linux. The Windows upgrade is too steep and the product requires me to upgrade my computer hardware as well. I am sad that I have to pay expensive licenses and hardware for Windows XP only to get an operating system that is technically inferior and buggy compared to the rock-solid performance and cost savings of Linux. I have been looking at the other Linux distros and based on my research: Linux Mandrake 8.1 is the solution for me. Is it? To begin with, I have several questions: 1. Will Mandrake 8.1 run on my system? AMD-K6-2-500 64MB RAM SIS 530 on-board AGP 2x 8MB video RAM ES-SOLO on-board sound card Does Mandrake support the drivers for my devices? Does it have a generic driver if in case the manufacturers for my devices are nowhere to be found and have ceased support? 2. Is Mandrake 8.1 vulnerable to viruses such as CIH or BIOS-infecting viruses? Are there any antivirus software for Mandrake? 3. Will Mandrake 8.1 run on a 486DX2 33mhz with 16MB RAM? One of Linux' strengths is running on old computer systems. Will Mandrake give a new lease of usable life to my old system? 4. I plan to use some legacy Windows programs (Office, Quicken, etc.) on Mandrake. What Windows emulator would you recommend for Mandrake? Will WINE work for me? How about Win4Lin? I also wish to play my Windows games with Linux until such time when Linux ports for these games have been released. 5. Is there a virtual-cd program for Mandrake? Some games require me to have the cd on the drive while playing. In Windows, I use a virtual-cd program to create a virtual cd that resides on my hard drive. This lets me run games without reshuffling the cds on my drive. Any programs on Mandrake similar to this? 6. Can I run servers for Unreal Tournament, Quake III, Half-Life, and Counter-Strike simultaneously with Mandrake, while at the same time acting as a file-and-print sharing computer on the network? Will it crash or live up to the legend of Linux as a crash-proof server OS? 7. I live in the Philippines. How can I purchase Mandrake 8.1 Powerpack from my area? Do you have a reseller in my country or do I have to order directly from you? Can I be a dealer for Linux Mandrake in my area? 8. I plan to use my Mandrake system as a point of sharing internet access for the other computers in my home network. Is it possible to do this with Mandrake? These are the questions I have for now. I plan to buy Mandrake 8.1 at the end of November. Thank you very much for the time spent on my inquiries. It is time for Microsoft to join the dinosaurs of old computing. Long live Linux and the Open-source movement!!! Regards, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mouse
On Thursday 01 November 2001 19:06, Tomek Nowinski wrote: Hi, Once again I need your help. I hope I can explain myself... I have problems with mouse pointing (punteo del ratón)... After 1 or 2 hr. of working in KDE my mouse get's crazy and the place where I make click is like 2 cm to the left from the point where I can see my mouse. Anybody knows how to solve it? Es que después de un rato de trabajo el ratón deja de apuntar en el lugar donde se lo ve y uno hace click como a 2 cm a la izquierda. Alguien tiene idea dónde y cómo lo puedo arreglar? Thanks for help. Tomek Nowinski The file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (If you are using XFree 4.1) or /etc/X11/XF86Config (If you are using Xfree 3.3.6) has a setting called #Option sw_cursor right in the file. You need to edit the file. To do that, open a terminal (what follows is my dialog) [tester@civileme tester]$ su Password: [root@civileme tester]# kate /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 DCOPServer up and running. [root@civileme tester]#exit [tester@civileme tester]$ Of course, where it asked for password I put in my root password. In Kate, I used ctrl-F to bring up the find window, searched for the string sw_curs and deleted the leading '#' sign on that line. What you are describing is a problem with the video driver, so it would be helpful if you reported the brand and model of video card you use. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux versus WindowsXP Haredware
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:00:11 +1100 , Craig Williamson (ENZ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm writing this because I'm curious. With all the trouble with WindowsXP having all these hardware issues, isn't it about time to get our thinking caps on and re-focus our attention on the fact at this moment in time we have an opportunity to exploit Linux hardware capabilities. One guy saying he couldn't get his USB keyboard to work under WinXP where Linux could is a prime example. Okay so WindowsXP has almost rock solid stability, but for the first time ever, LINUX SUPPORTS MORE HARDWARE!!!. We need to push this at this time before Microsoft gets it's act together. What are your thoughts on this and I hope it will inspire someone on this mailing list to push this further. This may be the invunerability that could drag Microsoft to its knees. Craig Williamson As much as I'd like to see it happen, I don't think it'll work. Hardware manufacturers will scramble to get XP support, and our lead will quickly disappear. If only they scrambled to get GNU/Linux support... -- Sridhar Dhanapalan So, if anybody wants to have hardware sent to them - don't call me, but instead write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 19:33:12 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) wrote: RMS is the kind of guy who is very easily misunderstood. He is also the kind of guy that tends to go a little overboard with things. In some cases, he mellows I've met RMS as well on two separate occasions. His last talk at SVLUG here in Sunnyvale (probably over a year ago) he was (at least in my opinion) over- doing the GPL advocacy thing, like trying to ensure that people only have GPL on their system (advocating exclusion of proprietary things even where they might be useful on Linux systems -- things like Star Office, netscape, etc.) And, he was pushing Debian as 'the' GNU/Linux. Not that I don't advocate Debian - it's a very respectable distribution with many advantages -- but the 'GNU/Linux' is to me a misnomer. Yes, there's a lot of GNU, and perhaps Linux would be less than what it is today without it, but there's a lot of extra non-GNU stuff in a typical Linux distro, and I don't think Debian has an edge on having a higher percentage of GNU than does any of the other distros out there. Debian is 'the' GNU/Linux because it has an official policy of only including something if it is GPL. KDE was excluded for some years until TrollTech relicensed QT under the GPL. RMS uses GNU in a broad sense, referring to the GNU system and to programmes which are under GNU licenses (GPL/LGPL). This forms the vast bulk of any distro, including the most critical portions. Linux is a kernel that cannot work on its own. Its Windows equivalent would be krnl386.exe. The GNU system includes such staples as Glibc, Gcc, Bash, Emacs, Midnight Commander and almost all of the shell commands. A system cannot function without these. The GNU system also includes GNOME and XFree86 (which is MIT licensed, not GPL). Linux itself is GPL, with an exception for addable modules. Add to this everything which is GPL or LGPL (including QT and KDE) and you have a system which would be over 90% GNU, including all the vital components. The remainder are add-ons, things which can very easily be done without. Windows isn't judged by the licenses of external, non-essential applications, so why should GNU/Linux? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Questions, questions and more questions from a potential buyer
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:57:03 +0800, Michael Peligro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/Madam: No need for formalities - this is a list where users help other users! :) Good day! I am an avid gamer and I plan to migrate to Linux. The Windows upgrade is too steep and the product requires me to upgrade my computer hardware as well. I am sad that I have to pay expensive licenses and hardware for Windows XP only to get an operating system that is technically inferior and buggy compared to the rock-solid performance and cost savings of Linux. I have been looking at the other Linux distros and based on my research: Linux Mandrake 8.1 is the solution for me. Is it? To begin with, I have several questions: 1. Will Mandrake 8.1 run on my system? AMD-K6-2-500 64MB RAM SIS 530 on-board AGP 2x 8MB video RAM ES-SOLO on-board sound card Does Mandrake support the drivers for my devices? Does it have a generic driver if in case the manufacturers for my devices are nowhere to be found and have ceased support? The processor and the RAM will work, although I recommend that you upgrade to at least 128MB of RAM for a full graphical experience (the same would go for any OS). I don't know about the on-board stuff. Try checking these sites: http://lhd.zdnet.com/ http://www.linuxhardware.net/ http://www.linuxhardware.org/ http://www.linux.com/enhance/hardware/ http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3 2. Is Mandrake 8.1 vulnerable to viruses such as CIH or BIOS-infecting viruses? Are there any antivirus software for Mandrake? There are no virii for GNU/Linux, and it is likely that there will never be any effective ones, due to superior design. Hence, there is no need for a virus scanner. There is also no need for tools like Scandisc and Defrag. GNU/Linux filesystems take care of these things themselves. 3. Will Mandrake 8.1 run on a 486DX2 33mhz with 16MB RAM? One of Linux' strengths is running on old computer systems. Will Mandrake give a new lease of usable life to my old system? Mandrake is optimised for i586 (Pentium-class) and above processors. For 386 and 486 computers, you should look at another distribution, like Red Hat or Suse. 4. I plan to use some legacy Windows programs (Office, Quicken, etc.) on Mandrake. What Windows emulator would you recommend for Mandrake? Will WINE work for me? How about Win4Lin? I also wish to play my Windows games with Linux until such time when Linux ports for these games have been released. Microsoft applications won't work reliably in WINE, because MS designs them so that they don't. Win4Lin and VMware are good virtualisation applications, and Windows works reliably in them. Ultimately, you should be looking for replacements for your apps. There is no point whatsoever in running GNU/Linux if you're in Win4Lin or VMware all the time. For example, StarOffice/OpenOffice is a great alternative to MS Office, and it handles the MS Office file formats admirably. To replace Quicken, there's Gnucash and Moneydance, which can also read Quicken files. The GIMP is better than Adobe Photoshop in many ways, and GNOME and KDE beat the Windows interface for power and functionality. All of these are 100% free, both in price and in source. Games may pose a problem. Win4Lin and VMware don't handle games too well. WINE can play some games (e.g. The Sims and Starcraft), but most won't work. The Windows version of Quake III can be made to work natively (not through any emulation) in GNU/Linux with a small patch. Loki has a number of ports of Windows games to GNU/Linux, including Unreal Tournament. There is a special Gamers' Edition of Mandrake 8.1, which includes The Sims and a version of WINE especially tweaked for gaming. This sounds like the distro for you. You should keep a dual-boot system for maximum enjoyment of your system. For serious work, you can benefit from the power and stability of GNU/Linux. For high-speed gaming, Wintendo is still around to boot into :) 5. Is there a virtual-cd program for Mandrake? Some games require me to have the cd on the drive while playing. In Windows, I use a virtual-cd program to create a virtual cd that resides on my hard drive. This lets me run games without reshuffling the cds on my drive. Any programs on Mandrake similar to this? Provided that the CD isn't copy protected, you can easy make a CD image and store it on your hard drive. 6. Can I run servers for Unreal Tournament, Quake III, Half-Life, and Counter-Strike simultaneously with Mandrake, while at the same time acting as a file-and-print sharing computer on the network? Will it crash or live up to the legend of Linux as a crash-proof server OS? I've never tried it myself, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work. I think that there is a native Half-Life server for GNU/Linux, and all of Quake III works. 7. I live in the Philippines. How can I purchase Mandrake 8.1 Powerpack from my area? Do you have a reseller in my country or do I have to
[newbie] New to Mandrake- lost in the sources void
Well first off lemme describe my system, I have: AMD 1 Ghz Socket A Processor Asus A7V Motherboard 512 Mb PC133 SDRAM ATI Radeon AGP 64 Mb DDR VIVO Graphics Card 60 Gig Maxtor drive (windows based) 30 Gig Maxtor drive (linux based) Teac 4x/4x/32x CD-RW Drive Creative Labs PC-DVD 12x Ovation Drive 56k PCI HSP Micromodem Creative Labs Sound Blaster PCI 512 sound card My motherboard has the built in Promise ATA100 interface and i can't find the source that i need for my version of Mandrake (7.1 aka Linux for Windows) to recognize it. I also need the proper source for my sound card. I have already found information about my modem and that it's not supported by any Linux source. :( I would appreciate if anyone could help me find the proper source for these devices and tell me how to install it. I appreciate any help possible in advance. ICENATE __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New to Mandrake- lost in the sources void
In reply to Nate Kitts's words, written Fri, 02 Nov 2001 02:40:47 -0500 My motherboard has the built in Promise ATA100 interface and i can't find the source that i need for my version of Mandrake (7.1 aka Linux I doubt that mandrake 7.1 supports it. Never heard that happen. It works fine on mdk8.0 as I am using it right now. for Windows) to recognize it. I also need the proper source for my sound card. Is it an on-board sound chip? If so, what chipset or soundcard is it based on? Paul -- It is better to have loved and lost, then never to have loved at all -Lord Alfred Tennyson http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Evolution
you were tryin a cooker version, you can't base your judgement on that,, cooker is beta packages, they take all the latest stuff, wrap an rpm around it and offer it for download.. imagine getting a daily updated cvs snapshot of KDE and trying to run it you most likely wouldn't get it to compile.. although thats alot risker then usin a cooker rpm, its the same principle, cooker are not usually stable releases. which would explain your problem... having said that, to each his own. ;-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shipahoy Sent: Friday, 2 November 2001 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Evolution On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:14:52 -0600 Gary Traffanstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for user experiences with Evolution. I'm wanting to switch to it from Kmail only because I like the way it does spell check. I've been using KMail since I first started using Linux and so I know that KMail is quite dependable. Is there anything I should know about Evolution before making the switch? Should I not make the switch and if so, why? Etc., etc., etc. Any input would be most appreciated! I've tried the latest version 0.15 off cooker. I liked the look of the address book which I thought might serve my purposes rather well for listing detailed business addresses. I spent an hour or so carefully filling in addresses, went to create a new category and the machine froze solid putting an end to that experiment. I won't trust it with my data anymore. Evolution is not quite ready for mission critical functions yet. Its also a bit Redmondian for my taste, and I can't figure out how to do *proper* rather than US English in the spell check which makes it less than useless for my purposes. I'll stick with Sylpheed which is in rapid development and coming along very nicely. It handles huge folders (20megs or more) and mailing lists better than any mail client I've ever used. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
