RE: 2 queries

1999-01-26 Thread Nicholas Petti



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amy Haugesag
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 8:02 PM
 To: passenger side
 Subject: RE: 2 queries

 typical rock crit wouldn't necessarily know individual Mekons other than
 Jon Langford,

Given the convulted history of the band and their propemsity for substance
abuse I'd be surprised if individual Mekons know each other.

Nicholas



Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 1/25/99 10:27:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 but linda, "wild and blue" was a HUGE hit for john anderson, and saying so
 ain't snooty. and as much as i love the meke's version, it's not irk-worthy,
 either. rather, it's analagous to pointing out that nirvana, not tori amos,
 first gave us "smells like teen spirit." bill f-w 

I know Nirvana, and John Anderson ain't no Nirvana.  Still, point taken.  As
is Jon's, actually, to the extent you'd think a record company would insist on
always publishing writers' credits in the liner notes since they probably have
to get somebody's okay to use their song in the first place.  I'm not sure
anyone's made it clear, though, that Hazeldine's Orphans liner notes  don't
credit the song to the Mekons at all.  What they say is:

"Wild and Blue
(John Scott Shery/Sweet Baby Music, BMI)
From the Mekons.  Because we all love Jon Langford so much."

What they don't say is that John Anderson had the hit with it, but no one ever
does, and Hazeldine's and that writers' audience are more likely to be
familiar with the Mekons.  

BTW, how many country writers even, in comparable circumstances, refer to
Hecht/Block's "Walkin' After Midnight"?  The relevant reference is more likely
to Patsy Cline's, innit?

Linda, recoiling from the thought of Tori Amos "Smells Like Teen Spirit,"
while reserving the right to adore Sinead O'Connor's "All Apologies"






Old 97s/Gravel Train Dee-Troyt Show

1999-01-26 Thread Masonsod

Hey P2-ers,

I just got back from our warming up for the Old 97s, and what a fantastic
experience.  They sounded unbelieveable, so tight and on.  The people went
nuts, they even clapped for us.  Guitarist Ken B. wore a GT T-shirt onstage,
and Rhett kept praising us in between songs.  It was just too sweet.

East Coasters: Do yourself a favor and go see them on their last dates there,
you won't be disappointed.

Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road



The Fringe (featuring THE BYSTANDERS!)

1999-01-26 Thread Rob Russell

 
 The sirens have faded into the distance. Now, is the time to write the
 review of the live in-studio performance of The Bystanders on the Fringe
 this weekend.
 

Thanks, Shane, for your oh-so-too-kind words. We had a blast. And I'm glad
"both of your listeners" enjoyed it, too. It's good to know that something
more was accomplished than just causing a crime wave in Anderson Co. and
getting Brandon banned from all Dunkin' Donuts in the Knoxville metro area.


A note to all musician types headed Knoxville way: while the Krispy Kreme
drive thru is open 24 hours, don't think that you can just waltz into DD's
with a fresh KK's glazed hanging out of your kisser and order a cup of joe
-- a curse on both their houses!

 
 (Note to other future guests: I do *not* exaggerate the size of our
studios.
 16-foot camper with the DJ booth crammed into the closet and the DJ
standing
 in the bathroom door to broadcast.)
 
 I want to say that anyone who gets the chance to see the Bystanders
perform
 or have them as guests on their show, should simply do so. The band
 showcased some excellent songwriting, along with a bright alt.country
sound
 heavily flavored at times by the Costello/Parker school of British pop.
 

I've got a warm and fuzzy feeling ... who's it for?

But seriously, the WDVX camper was an experience -- not just that, but a
good experience. I have been in many radio stations in my day, but never
have I been in a camper so full of joy as I was on Saturday night. And the
tape sounds good, to hear our mando player tell it (don't worry, you'll be
getting a copy Shane -- as long as I get a copy of you-know-what).

I want to encourage any of y'all who are thinking about playing Knoxville
to beg, borrow, or payola your way onto Shane's show. Unlike most broadcast
hosts I've dealt with, he not only enjoys and is knowledgable about the
music, he has the good sense to encourage musicians to have a good time
rather than tense up in front of the live mic -- you don't get much looser
than we were Sat. night.

I *will* be counted among the audience members when
 the Bystanders perform at the Long Branch Saloon this Friday (with the
Town
 Criers, whom they are very much fond of).

And we're holding you to that. And so are the Town Criers, of whom we are
quite fond. (and their demo tape sounds mighty doggone good, too). BTW:
this is the inaugural show for my baritone gee-tar ... I'm sure folks at
the LB (and up to 7 miles away ... you've only heard us acoustically --
just you wait!) will enjoy!


Rob Russell
Johnson City, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://listen.to/thebystanders

--
 From: Shane S. Rhyne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Playlist: The Fringe 1/23/99 featuring THE BYSTANDERS!
 Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 7:43 PM
 



Mekon Sherry

1999-01-26 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 1/25/99 10:59:07 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At that point of ignorance, it seems like a wiser course would have been
 simply to give the song's title and avoid mentioning anyone else altogether
 g.  I 

Given their porous nature, I suppose someone could assume just about anybody
was a Mekon at one time or another, but in that case, you wouldn't mention a
songwriter anyway I don't think.  I can't remember seeing an individual Mekon
ever being credited with a song on a Mekons record.

lr



Re: Current Freakwater Lineup

1999-01-26 Thread LindaRay64

I've kind of been noodling a thought that Bob Egan might actually play with
them again now that he's not playing with Wilco.  Of course, he's poised to do
some playing behind this new record of his which I'm digging, but hey he could
open.  

Linda

In a message dated 1/25/99 11:00:11 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 25-Jan-99 Re: Current
 Freakwater Lineup by Christopher M Knaus@juno 
  As far as I know it's still...
  
  Catherine Ann Irwin
  Janet Beveridge Bean
  David Gay
  Max Johnston
 
 Unless Johnston's doing doubletime in Freakwater and the Gourds that
 lineup has changed.
 
 Carl Z. 
  



Re: Sara Hickman

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Soron

At 10:26 PM -0600  on 1/25/99, Kelly Kessler wrote:

 Can  anyone fill me in on Ms. Hickman, and recommend a
particular album that  represents her well?   Kelly
http://www.bcity.com/texasrubies
http://www.bcity.com/honkytonk

I can't tell you much, Kelly, but I'd say older is better here. Liked
her first two albums a lot, wasn't much enamored of anything since then.

Bob




Re: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Soron

At 12:36 AM -0500  on 1/26/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know Nirvana, and John Anderson ain't no Nirvana.

Apparently you *don't* know John Anderson. Geez, what a thing to say.

Bob




Re: 2 queries

1999-01-26 Thread Debnumbers

In a message dated 1/26/99 1:22:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm sure that's all true. But I was thinking, too, that it was more than
just the
 pickiness and accepted standards of writers and editors at play here. I was
 thinking it was, you know, like, the law. . . . I'm guessing there's a
difference in copyright law/requirents, although I don't think that makes much
sense.
  

I think it's more likely the application of the standard or the application of
the law -- because a copyright is a copyright regardless of what the format of
the item copyrighted is.  Remember old 45's -- I remember as a kid not knowing
what the name in parentheses under the performers name meant.  It was the
writer of the song.  So at some time in music history there may have been a
standard.  I know this is minutia to some but I guess I find it pretty
interesting.  And one would think with Nashville being a "songwriters" town,
that there of all places, credit would be given.  But then again, didn't this
start with Hazeldine?  I don't have their CD or even know what label it's on
-- I still think that smaller labels might not be following proper protocol
but no one's called them on it.  Then again maybe they have been called and we
don't know.  But I agree with whoever, it annoys the hell out of me when
someone covers a song on a CD and doesn't properly credit it.  You know -- BMI
and ASCAP might be the place to clear this up.  I'm too tired to go web
surfing -- Curry -- that's your assignment for tomorrow g

Deb
I'll probably be digging into copyright tomorrow night in my studies -- but it
will deal more with electronic documents g



Re: 2 queries

1999-01-26 Thread vgs399

Part of learning about country music is learning where songs come from, and
my sense is that that's true with various kinds of roots music - blues,
Cajun and so forth, but I guess it's not so big a thing across the board.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/

Exactly, except I think we can go further and say that many critics today
are just plain lazy and do not research the source and/or their
workload is so considerable that they do not have the time.  I would rather
read no songwriting credit at all than to be given an erroneous one.  When I
read a review or liner notes for that matter, I want to believe that the
credits listed are, in fact truthful.  Further, I believe that an artists
success depends just as much upon the song/songwriter as it does upon the
artists interpretation as well as all of those engineers, musicians and
various production people lurking in the background.
Why shouldn't they be given accurate mention?
What frequently bothers me is when a catalog is purchased by a recording
company, transferred from ep to cd and distributed without
so much as a nod to the songwriter.  For instance, over the past few years I
have been trying to replace my worn-out but beloved albums with cd's.  In
some instances, replacing the original song-for-song album is impossible;
however in the case of "The Greatest Hits of..."
or "The Best Of..." I frequently notice a lack of songwriting credits.  For
the younger generation who has never heard of a particular artist before but
possibly has been curious enough to explore someone they've read about who
has been an influence on a current "stars" career (or whatever else may
stimulate their interest), I believe negating the songwriting credits or
providing "false" credit is a disservice to the heritage of any musical
form.
Music is more than just the artist or his/her image.  I f we wish to
preserve our rich musical heritage, then I say we should accurately provide
credit where credit is definitely due.
Tera






Re: Paul Kelly

1999-01-26 Thread michael higgins


In response to a query about Paul Kelly's latest, Christopher 
Hill said

Words  Music - it's superb.  His best solo effort yet, imo
Punched up guitar, reggae/blues influences allowed to 
shine, and the best darn Xmas song I've heard in many
years ("How to Make Gravy").   My favorite song rotates,
depending on mood: the above tune, "I'd Rather Go Blind",
"Glory Be to God" (a lustful ode to his wife), "Gutless
Wonder", "Tease Me"...  Well worth the money.

I second just about all of that. It's a fine, fine album and
his best for two or three now IMHO. I'd add "Little Kings",
and "Charlie Owen's Slide Guitar" to those nominated above
- and emphatically endorse "Glory Be To God" (not what you'd
expect from the title) and "Gravy".

I have my doubts about "She Answers The Sun" and "Melting" -
and do I miss the PK of old whose songs were more often than not
wonderful stories. I have a nagging worry that the title is 
a little too literal - that too often these pieces are words
and music (and I miss the story telling). But hell a boy's
got to move on - and on its own merits this is still well 
worth anyone's money. 

I wouldn't mind another cricket song some time soon though...

MICHAEL (in NZ)

np: Aimee Mann - "I'm With Stupid" (and wondering why it doesn't
grab me as much as her first).

(and now reading - and loving, for whatever it's worth - "Blue 
Highways" by William Least Heat Moon)   



Dixie Chicks and other voices

1999-01-26 Thread vgs399




I would be interested in knowing how much a 
voice, quality, tone and so forth influences you in your likeability quotient of 
any cd.

For example - Although I acknowledge the 
musicianship on the Dixie Chicks debut cd, I totally dislike Natalie 
Maines' voice. For me, her voice is grating; similar to a mid-pitched meat 
grinder.

Sara Evans - Absolutely piercing alto quality. Never 
modulates and sings from the back of her throat. I get a total kick out of 
any reviewer who has labeled her the next coming of Patsy Cline. Not a bad 
voice, but I wish she'd tone it down considerably.

Trisha Yearwood - a dramatic soprano who shoves the 
Wagnerian principle down our throats. A wonderful voice hampered by an 
inability to sing from her head.
Influence? Linda Ronstadt - another great voice, full of 
quivering vibratto, but devoid of sincerity and emotion.

A voice means a lot to me in liking/disliking a 
recording. I would be interested in any of your thoughts regarding 
vocal performance. Who do you like or dislike and why?
Tera




Re: DOTF

1999-01-26 Thread Tommy W. Nordeng
Title: Re: DOTF



Does anyone know who I should contact about Down On The Farm, and/or might have an email address or number or something?

I guess Tom Skjeklesaether is your man. His mailaddress: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TWN



-- 
np: Eric Anderesen - Memories of the Future
Tommy W. Nordeng 
Oslo, Norway
URL: http://biomol19.uio.no/www_docs/music/music.html





Re: DOTF

1999-01-26 Thread Mike Hays





Budrocket writes:
Does anyone know who I should contact about Down 
On The Farm, and/or might have an email address or number or 
something?

I would contact Old McDonald g and 
if that doesn't get you anywhere, I believe Tom Skjeklesaether has something to do with it. Hs 
e mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looking forward to seeing you guys at the Barn Dance 
next month.

NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 
netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think!

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Re: DOTF

1999-01-26 Thread Jerker Emanuelsson

Looking forward to seeing The Mighty Ghost Rockets at The farm this summer!

Jerker
Sound Asleep



Re: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 1/25/99 11:58:38 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I know Nirvana, and John Anderson ain't no Nirvana.
 
 You got that right, sister g.
  

Thanks for taking this in the spirit in which it was intended!  (I forgot my
g thingie).  (decaf, soron honey).

As for this, though.  . .

Well, sure; the analogy here, though, would be to John Anderson, not the
Mekons.  After all, you'd correct someone who called it a Garth Brooks song,
wouldn't you?  I mean, he *did* record it and all (it's on The Chase,
immediately preceding, speaking of synchronicity, "Dixie Chicken"), but it's
still a Patsy Cline song - and "Wild And Blue" is a John Anderson song...g

For Hazeldine's audience I still contend the Mekons is the proper reference,
since it's the Mekons cover that inspired their own, and to which they refer
their listeners, for recollection or future exploration.  In fact, its
possible (ya never know) that the Hazeldines felt the Anderson connection was
so obvious it hardly needed mentioning, but that the Mekons cover was
undeservedly underappreciated.  g Orphans took a fair stab at identifying
the writer, which is where this dispute started out here on ole P2 as I
recall.  Under the circumstances, I'm inclined to forgive the music reviewer
for not taking five of the 75 words or whatever alotted to her to elaborate
irrelevantly on the provenance of "Wild and Blue;" the thing her subject, the
Hazeldines, say matters most to THEM about it is that the Mekons recorded it. 

Much love to all,
Linda

Linda





RE: 2 queries/OKRA all stars

1999-01-26 Thread Matt Benz

What are you talking about? My cd has *all* the songwriters credited.
Course, mine is the original OKRA release, so what, do you have the
re-release?  Well, at any rate Jon, rest assured, the band and original
label had all the songwriters by name listed..

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 9:33 PM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  RE: 2 queries
 
  y'all are gettin' pretty het up, here.  SOME of us are forgetting
  that one of the things this whole "whatever it is" does is introduce
  people to music and artists they wouldn't be familiar with otherwise
  by mix n matching people and songs.
 
 Heh, as it happens, that's one of my complaints about the Okra
 All-Stars CD,
 which has 9 covers out of 15 cuts, and not a single songwriter ID,
 never
 mind original artist names.  Assuming that some of the purchasers are
 likely
 aware that Prince wrote "Purple Rain," that leaves 8 songs - some of
 them
 very good ones (including, BTW, "Wild And Blue") whose origins are
 completely hidden from view.  There's no way of even telling which
 ones are
 the covers.
 
  Now, expecting an urban rock critic to dig deep enough to find
  out that liner notes might ton provide the comprehensiveness and
  accuracy of a country music encyclopedia, which, by the way, would
  have to be organized by song title, is, imho, asking an unreasonable
 amount.
 
 Maybe, but it would be nice to have songwriting credits, and it's a
 good
 reason to have liner notes that go beyond listing the musicians, the
 song
 titles, and a little list of thankyews.  In my opinion, if they aren't
 there, it weakens the "introduction" aspect.
 
 Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
 



Blue Chip Radio Report, 01/25/99

1999-01-26 Thread jon_erik

 Looks like Wall isn't around, so I'll do the honors this week.
--Jon Johnson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wollaston, Massachusetts


THE BLUE CHIP RADIO REPORT
News, Charts, Show Prep, Sales Info

January 25, 1999
Bill Miller
Editor  Publisher


The Blue Chip Radio Report is a free weekly newsletter for people in the
radio and music industries. To add your name to our e-mailing list, or to
remove your name, send your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!


The Blue Chip Song of the Week: "Don't Come Crying To Me" by Vince Gill.
Writers: Vince Gill  Reed Nielsen. Producer: Tony Brown. Label: MCA
Nashville. Fiddles to the left, fiddles to the right. For some reason,
fiddles are everywhere this week. It's a nice change. If you love country
music, you'll love this song.


Heads are rolling as cuts are being made at Polygram's subsidiary labels.
Affected country labels include Universal, MCA, Decca and Mercury.
Several other non-country labels were involved. Non-country labels
apparently suffered the most in sheer numbers, but the country cuts
rocked Nashville last week. 
Many talented Nashville artists and front office people are, or will soon
be, without a label.
Decca Records has been closed. Lead Decca AR man Mark Wright, one of
Nashville's finest producers, is apparently headed for MCA. For now,
Decca artists Gary Allan, Mark Chesnutt and Lee Ann Womack are moving to
the MCA label. 
Decca artists left without a label include Dolly Parton, Danni Leigh,
Rhett Akins, Chris Knight, Rebecca Lynn Howard and Shane Stockton.
Parton's highly-acclaimed album and Leigh's hot new single, "29 Nights",
are effectively left out in the cold with no support. 
Parton reportedly learned the news from reporters.
At Mercury, John Anderson, comedian Rodney Carrington and new artist
Jenny Simpson have been dropped.
MCA Nashville cut several staffers but hasn't made roster cuts.
About 500 people were cut at the various Polygram labels. About 700 more
are expected to be cut in coming months.
Seagram's paid $ 10.4 billion for the Polygram labels in deal that was
finalized about 6 weeks ago. The company wants to find a way to save $
300 million by consolidating the various Polygram operations.


Legendary steel guitarist Jimmy Day passed away Friday (1/22) after a
long battle with various pancreatic and gastrointestinal diseases. While
some might argue that the most influential steel guitarist in history was
Buddy Emmons or Pete Drake or Shot Jackson or Paul Franklin or someone
else, an equal number will argue that Jimmy Day holds that honor. 
Jimmy Day's list of credits is long and impressive. When Webb Pierce's
day job was selling shoes and shirts at Sears, he had a weekend job
performing on The Louisiana Hayride at KWKH in Shreveport. Webb hired
Jimmy Day to play steel guitar on the Hayride (1951). 
Jimmy Day would later have stints in Ray Price's Cherokee Cowboys, Jim
Reeves' Blue Boys, and Willie Nelson's band (The Record Men). He also
played in the backup bands for Lefty Frizzell, Willie Nelson, George
Jones, Commander Cody, Tracy Nelson and others. 
His many honors include election to the International Steel Guitar Hall
of Fame, the Texas Steel Guitar Hall of Fame, and the Texas Western Swing
Hall of Fame.
James Clayton "Jimmy" Day was 65 years old.


If you ever wrote to Elvis Presley, be patient.
Karen Goltz, now 50 years old, wrote the king a fan letter in 1960 when
she was just a bopper. No reply, no return to sender. The young lady was
disappointed.
But a few days ago, someone found a reply that Elvis had written. It was
in the attic of a woman who had rented Elvis an apartment during his
military service days in Germany.
The happy fan now has her reply from Elvis. Karen, who lived in
Oberhausen, West Germany, at the time, had written: "It's my birthday
soon and if you send me your autograph I promise I will marry you when I
grow up." 
Elvis' personal note ended with "May you have a happy 11th birthday - and
a lot of "Teddy Bears" (referring to his 50's hit) - your friend Elvis".


By the way, a collector in the U.K. has estimated the value of Elvis'
letter to be about 3,600 pounds. Which almost makes it big enough to play
in the Denver Broncos offensive line.


Jerry Buckner at Fox97 in Atlanta has a "Dirty Bird" song getting big
response in several markets. For the uninitiated, the "Dirty Bird" is the
Atlanta Falcons' high-profile celebration dance. Jerry says the song will
be featured on Roseanne's Superbowl Show later this week. You can check
it out at www.RadioMusicNetwork.com . Jerry will graciously furnish a
free copy for your station if you call him at (770) 736-1792.


The lovely and talented Sara Evans and hubby Craig Schelske are expecting
their first child later this year.


The Amy Grant/Gary Chapman split may involve more money than you expect.
If you choose to believe The National Enquirer, about $ 75 million 

Re: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 1/25/99 11:39:08 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I know Nirvana, and John Anderson ain't no Nirvana.  


how true. John Anderson is much more important.

Slim



Re: Dixie Chicks (long)

1999-01-26 Thread Danlee2

I think Jon's made a good point about the bio on their official web site
doing an actually pretty good job of discussing the band's past, but having
seen the Chicks myself a number of times from '90 on, a couple of these
passges just about made me blanch;

 . All the act needed was a charismatic
  lead singer"I loved watching them play," Natalie recalls.
  "Martie and Emily had always been the best part
  of Dixie Chicks. 

   Uhhno.  I realize this is their record company's doing, but both Robin
Macy and Laura Lynch were not only better singers IMO, but *far* more
charismatic, as it were.  And I know Bob already said that but dammit I had to
chip that in g. 

Dan Bentele, dedicated to reducing the fiber content of P2



   



Re: 2 queries

1999-01-26 Thread Danlee2

re Tera;

   For
  the younger generation who has never heard of a particular artist before
but
  possibly has been curious enough to explore someone they've read about who
  has been an influence on a current "stars" career (or whatever else may
  stimulate their interest), I believe negating the songwriting credits or
  providing "false" credit is a disservice to the heritage of any musical
  form.
  Music is more than just the artist or his/her image.  I f we wish to
  preserve our rich musical heritage, then I say we should accurately provide
  credit where credit is definitely due.

 This is like my second "me too" post in a week but...I don't care g.
Very well put, and I feel even *more* strongly about this, when the credits
aren't on a record I just about blow my top.  That, and when I'm at a live
show where some band plays a number of lesser known songs and doesn't give
cred to either the song origin or writer.

Dan



Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Stevie Simkin



[EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted :

   Influence?  Linda Ronstadt - another great voice, full of quivering
 vibratto,
   but devoid of sincerity and emotion.


and wrote:

 Devoid of sincerity or emotion???  Hmm...I wouldn't say that as much as
 guilty of overcooking it, but I haven't heard as much of her stuff as I
 probably should.


I'm fairly ambivalent about Linda Ronstadt.  I think when I discovered her, I was
going through that little thing called adolescence, and she was going thru her
girl guide outfit / skateboarder pads and shorts look, and I think my judgement
was clouded somewhat g

there are some great performances scattered across albums like Heart Like a Wheel,
hasten down the wind and prisoner in disguise.  Simple Dreams is pretty much a
stone classic altogether.  I am even perverse enough to enjoy Mad Love - her
generally adjudged as misguided new wave phase.  These days, though, I find the
bits I like are her duets.  Specifically, things like "Star of Bethlehem" with
Neil Young and quite a lot of the Trio album.

But the over-emoting / overcooking criticism seems to me to be a valid one a lot
of the time. She sometimes seems to foghorn it when something more subtle is what
the song is gently pleading for.

Stevie



Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Stevie Simkin

a few more great performances off the top of my head

with the foghorn turned down -
maybe I'm right
my blue tears
I never will marry

belting it out and it actually works -
think it's gonna work out fine
willin
how do I make you

I'm hoping that Trio II delivers the goods.  And is there talk of an emmylou/linda
duets album too?



LPs, copyright

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

 One of the nice things about LPs -- aside from how they sound better
 and have much better artwork on the jackets -- is how, without fail,
 the songwriters were almost always included after the title of the song
 and the length.

Good thing you had that "almost" in there, Bob, as I've got several LPs that
have zip in the way of info other than song titles - and on some of those,
they aren't in the same order as what's on the record g.

Wrt Dallas' point, I'm a tad shaky on the details, but the essence of the
matter is that music is treated differently under the law according to the
medium being used.  Once a song's been recorded, you don't need permission
to record it yourself; you just have to pay the statutory royalty.  When you
use a song in some other manner - as, for instance, quoting a portion of it
in a book, or using it in a movie or a commercial, etc. - then permission
must be obtained; hence the notices you find in books when song lyrics are
quoted.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Steve Earle/Del McCoury Band

1999-01-26 Thread groots

Steve Earle  The Del McCoury Band will be
playing March 3-6, 1999 at The World Famous Station Inn
in Nashville.  Special guests are expected throughout the
week.

Tickets go on sale February 1, 1999, tickets will be available
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RE: 2 queries/OKRA all stars

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

Leaping to defend the honor of his hometown musical community, Matt says:

What are you talking about? My cd has *all* the songwriters credited.
Course, mine is the original OKRA release, so what, do you have the
re-release?

and goes on, in another post:

   [Matt Benz]  And if you ever find a copy of Hank McCoy's second
 album, not only does he provide notes about all the songs, usually
 listing original singers as well as writers, but for the album cover, he
 "copies" what I assume is a classic country album cover (he provides a
 Capitol (I think) catalog reference # ), and urges folks to visit the
 COuntry Music Hall O Fame. Now, the actual material might be hit or
 miss, but ya gotta like his spirit, Jon.

Sure, absolutely - and yes, it's the re-release.  Evidently something got
lost in the translation, eh?

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Paul Kelly

1999-01-26 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 Re: Paul Kelly by
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 - and emphatically endorse "Glory Be To God" (not what you'd
 expect from the title)

Well, it is about devotion.g

Carl Z.
enjoying seeing a Paul Kelly thread that I didn't start 



Re: 2 queries

1999-01-26 Thread Tom Smith

Dallas Clemmons wrote:
 I often
 wondered about this as a DJ, when frustrated by the lack of songwriting
 credits, and so I'll ask now:  Why isn't this required?

And does it have any bearing on royalties for airplay? I 
thought it did, assuming a record got enough spins for BMI 
or ASCAP to (literally) pay attention.

TS



Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Stevie Simkin



Jon Weisberger wrote:

 Stevie confessed:

   I am even perverse enough to enjoy Mad Love - her
 generally adjudged as misguided new wave phase.

 Isn't that the album that has her version of "Poor Pitiful Me?"  Love that
 cut...

It's a good one, a great arrangement that improves on Zevon's original (which
is darn good itself). But I believe it crops up on the Simple Dreams album,
the one with Linda sitting in a flimsy nightgown in front of the mirror...
Ooops.  Just reverting to adolescence again for a moment there...
Stevie


  Should Terri Clark be introducing this as a Linda Ronstadt song or
 as a Warren Zevon one? g




 Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/





Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread \Doug Young aka \\\The Iceman\\\\

It's on Ronstadt's Sweet Dreams album.  I'm not sure which one of Warren's its
on but it really is a ZEVON cut.  Give him what credit he is due is my motto.
I've played the Ronstadt Version a couple of time with an intro something to
the likes of and here Linda Ronstadt coverin Warren Zevon's Poor Pitiful Me.

Iceman

Jon Weisberger wrote:

 Stevie confessed:

   I am even perverse enough to enjoy Mad Love - her
 generally adjudged as misguided new wave phase.

 Isn't that the album that has her version of "Poor Pitiful Me?"  Love that
 cut...  Should Terri Clark be introducing this as a Linda Ronstadt song or
 as a Warren Zevon one? g

 Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



1999 Edges from the Postcard2: Call For Submissions!

1999-01-26 Thread louicm

We're officially extending the deadline for this so if you're new
to P2 or you figured this deal was past due, well...send us
something! Last year's "EDGES FROM THE POSTCARD 2" featured unreleased
tracks by Robbie Fulks, Kimmie Rhodes, Mike Ireland  Holler, Wooden Leg,
Five Chinese Brothers, The Meat Purveyors, One Riot One Ranger, Bill Lloyd
and Elena Skye among many others, and we're looking for this volume of
EDGES to be just as unique. So regardless of whether you're a seasoned pro
or a ready-to-go newer act, get us your stuff!--Your Twang Gang

-- Forwarded message --

Even while the wildly-acclaimed "Edges From the Postcard2" still continues to
grace the CD changers of the urban hip intelligentsia and sexy librarian types,
it's time to issue the call to you music makers out there to send us your
nocturnal (and diurnal, for that matter) emissions for consideration for the
1999 version of Edges.  In other words, send us your songs!

Of course, we've got some ground rules here, mainly to help the selection
committee maintain the shred of sanity they have left.  So here they are:

(1)  We're asking for original, previously unreleased material.  If you submit
a cover tune, it will probably be passed over unless its sheer genius causes
the selection committee to have simultaneous orgasms.  The tunes submitted may
be demo versions, but realize that you will need to have a well-recorded
version in our hands if we chose your song for the compilation. 

(2)  Since the Edges CD is first and foremost a reflection of the Postcard2
community, we ask that all submitting bands have at least *some* tenuous
connection to the list--in other words, either a band member or someone
connected with the band (manager, booking agent, bail bondsman) should
subscribe to P2.

(3)  No more than four songs will be considered, so don't bother sending
more--they won't get listened to.

(4)  We will need THREE (3) identical copies of the submitted tunes, in cassette
format only.

(5)  Send these submissions, along with generous bribes, to:

  Dave Purcell
  720 Overton St.
  Newport, KY  41071

Be sure to email Dave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] after you send the material so
that Mr. P can confirm that he got everything he was supposed to.

(6)  If one of your songs is chosen for the CD, we'll eventually need a
professionally recorded DAT copy of it, so keep this in mind.

(7)  All proceeds from the project will go toward the staging of Twangfest3 and
future Postcard2 projects.  Honest.  If you saw what kind of cars we drive, you
wouldn't even *ask* if we were skimming.

That's it!  Last year's Postcard2 CD has done quite well, and we think
that this year's will do even better.  To paraphrase what Tom Cruise said
to Cuba Gooding, Jr. in "Jerry McGuire":  help us help *you*.  Send us the
results of your talent, determination, and substance abuse today.

Love,

Your Twang Gang




Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Stevie Simkin



"Doug Young aka \"The Iceman\"" wrote:

 It's on Ronstadt's Sweet Dreams album.  I'm not sure which one of Warren's its
 on but it really is a ZEVON cut.  Give him what credit he is due is my motto.

Pretty sure it's simple dreams but wouldnt swear to it.
And I agree Zevon needs every due he's due.  I understand he's without a label
right now - that right?  Crying shame.

Stevie



Doyle Lawson reissues

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

I mentioned in my bluegrass upcoming releases that Sugar Hill is reissuing
Doyle's first 4 secular albums on 2 CDs, and having now weaseled a couple of
copies, I can safely pronounce that the job they've done is outstanding, and
that if you have any interest at all in post-1960 bluegrass, you must own at
least one.  I'll be reviewing them for a familiar publication, so I'll save
the detailed comments for there, but I don't see any reason that P2ers
shouldn't be made aware of this requirement right now g.

Titles are The Original Band and Once And For Always/The News Is Out; the
first features the original band (duh): Terry Baucom, Lou Reid and Jimmy
Haley, the second has two different bands: first, Baucom, Haley and the
great Randy Graham, and second, Russell Moore, Ray Deaton and Scott Vestal
(whose subsequent albums with Doyle are already available on CD).  Jerry
Douglas, Mike Auldridge, Sam Bush, Bobby Hicks and Glen Duncan contribute
dobro and fiddle.

Yummy.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread Ndubb


  I know Nirvana, and John Anderson ain't no Nirvana.  
 
 
 how true. John Anderson is much more important. 

Pshaw... a truly pointless comparison. Besides, Nirvana rawked. And except
for, say, "Roundabout," John Anderson really annoys me. But that Wakeman can
tickle the ivories something fierce.

NW



Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Ph. Barnard

Junior here, with a query for all of you:

I got a call this morning from someone who's looking to do some short 
interviews with people who know (or think they know, or are just 
interested in, fascinated by, etc.) "TV rock bands."  That is, bands 
like the Monkees, Partridge Family, Josie and the Pussycats (or 
whatever their name was) or whoever, whose base was essentially 
television (as opposed to a "real" band whose base would be in the 
music industry in one way or another).

So, if you'd like a little air time g and have knowledge of this 
subject, write me offlist at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm just guessing, but:  Neal?  Bill Silvers?  Cheryl?  Come out of 
the closet, all you TV hounds!! g

Thanks,
--junior



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Ameritwang


Junior wrote:

I'm just guessing, but:  Neal?  Bill Silvers?  Cheryl?  Come out of 
the closet, all you TV hounds!! g

my guesses on expertise:

Neal - "California Dreams" (a show most likely to be *just* like the Weiss
childhood...but I think Neal calls them just "The Dreams" like most of their
fans)
Bill - "The Heights" (how *do* you talk to an angel?)
(Bill is also allowed to speak on Jamie whatshisname's solo career on 90210)
Cheryl - "Catwalk" (wasn't there a band in that series?)


Paul



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Hill, Christopher J

Didn't the Flintstones have a Pebbles  Bamm-Bamm offshoot
where the kids sang in a band?

Scooby-Doo - classic era - had the song breaks during chase
scenes, but Fred and Daphne never sang, so never mind. 

The Bugaloos!  How could I forget?  There have to be other Sid 
Marty Krofft shows with "bands".

The Muppet Show - "A - ni - MAL!  A - ni - MAL!"

"My name is Chris, I'm a tv addict."

Chris

 Neal - "California Dreams" (a show most likely to be *just* like the Weiss
 childhood...but I think Neal calls them just "The Dreams" like most of their
 fans)
 Bill - "The Heights" (how *do* you talk to an angel?)
 (Bill is also allowed to speak on Jamie whatshisname's solo career on 90210)
 Cheryl - "Catwalk" (wasn't there a band in that series?)
 
 
 Paul
 



Graham Parker (was Re: Question about TV bands)

1999-01-26 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 Re:  Question about
"TV bands" by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (Bill is also allowed to speak on Jamie whatshisname's solo career on 90210)

I think his name is Jamie Walters.  All I know about his solo career is
that he covered Graham Parker's "Release Me".  I can't think of any
other covers of one of Parker's recent songs; Marty Jones's "You Can't
Take Love for Granted" is the only one that comes to mind, and Parker's
version was released over fifteen years ago.

Carl Z. 



tv bands

1999-01-26 Thread Todd Larson

Damn, thought that last one was off to the fluff channel -- sorry to
broadcast the Saturday morning kids'-tv lyrics on the grown-up list

Todd
(who also remembers a cast band or two on "Saved By the Bell")




Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread marie arsenault



Junior here, with a query for all of you:
I got a call this morning from someone who's looking to do some short 
interviews with people who know (or think they know, or are just 
interested in, fascinated by, etc.) "TV rock bands."  That is, bands 
like the Monkees, Partridge Family, Josie and the Pussycats (or 
whatever their name was) 

I knew a lot about the Partridge Family in the day. I had all their lps. 
"I think I Love You" was my first 45. I actually wore it out. 
And David Cassiday was my first
concert. I can still see that white, fringe jumpsuit. I think I was about 8.

Hey, I noticed that they put the Partridge Family Christmas album
on cd. I should buy it.

marie (fluffing on the *big* list)




Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Terry A. Smith

Oh, good, a Linda Ronstadt thread. Go back and check out her first Capital
record (I believe) with "Birds," "I Fall to Pieces," "I Still Miss
Someone," and a bunch of other good songs. That's the record when I first
discovered her, around the fall of 73, and it's still a minor classic in
my book. Also, the record that came immediatly after that, and the one or
two preceding it (one titled "Silk Purse," I believe) were very good.
She did the Loudermilk tune Break My Mind on one of them, if I remember
correctly. -- terry smith

ps Cisco's great. A cross between Steve and Dwight. Cool tattoos, too.



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Masonsod

C'mon you people, that's not deep enough:

Charlie Chan and the Chan Clan - cartoon in which the detective's children had
a rock band. Played an Archies-styled song at the end of every show.

Banana Splits - The Sovines, Jamie Swedberg and I had a big conversation on
this one Sat. morning after our show.

Groovie Ghoulies - CBS cartoon with the hippie wolfman, a pinoff from Sabrina
the Teenage Witch.

Hey, what about Happy Days? Richie, Potsy and Ralph had a combo with varying
drummers (pudgy gang member, high school majorette, hip black guy among
others).

Speaking of which, probably my favorite TV band of them all (many of you know
this about me), Lenny and the Squigtones from Laverne  Shirley. (BTW, they
put out an album, and I would kill to get a copy of it).

The Brady Bunch had that album, remember when Peter's voice changed and
creative Greg re-wrote a song around it?

Odd Couple? Felix wants to get in good with Jaye P. Morgan (who happens to be
dating Oscar), so he forms a band around his song.

I Dream of Jeannie - Wanting Major Nelson to be rich and successful, Jeannie
makes him a manager of a rock band that she creates.

F Troop - A Beatles ripp-off in the 1870s (is that possible?) comes to Fort
Courage, and Corporal Agarn (Larry Storch) chooses to manage them.

Gilligan's Island - Who could forget The Mosquitos (Bingo, Bongo, Bungo, and
Irving) arriving on the island, only to leave because of the competition from
the new girl group with Ginger, Maryanne, and Mrs. Howell.

Oh God, see what you made me do?  I am awash in TV Hell.

Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Hill, Christopher J

 C'mon you people, that's not deep enough:
 
 I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy...
 
 Banana Splits - The Sovines, Jamie Swedberg and I had a big conversation on
 this one Sat. morning after our show.
 
 Mitch Matthews
 Gravel Train/Sunken Road
 
I offer  -

Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la

One banana, two banana, three banana, four
Four bananas make a bunch and so do many more.
Over hill and highway the banana buggies go,
Coming up to bring you the Banana Splits show

Tra la la, la la la la

Four bananas, three bananas, two bananas, one
All bananas playing in the bright warm sun,
Flipping like a pancake, popping like a cork,
Fleagle, Bingo, Drooper and Snork.

Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la


Now, at least, I don't feel like such an addict in the shadow of
Mitch.  Woohoo!  

Lot of good memories in this thread.

Chris



RE: 2 queries/OKRA all stars

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

 I started to think maybe they didn't
 have the songwriters on the All Stars disc, but I realize that I
 wouldn't have known who wrote "14 Karat Mine" (Or is that Mind?
 Whatever) any other way cos I've never heard it elsewhere.

Run, don't walk, to find a copy of the Gene Watson's Greatest Hits - the MCA
one, not the Curb one; incredibly, "Fourteen Carat Mind" was Watson's only
#1.  Actually, now that I think about it, you oughta find a copy of the Curb
one, too, which collects most of his Capitol hits that preceded his MCA
signing - but "Fourteen Carat Mind" is on the MCA one.

More synchronicity, BTW; the cut following that on the MCA album is "Speak
Softly (You're Talking To My Heart)," written by bluegrasser Steve Spurgin,
and one of the outstanding Randy Graham vocals on the second of the Doyle
Lawson reissues I mentioned earlier.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Derek Sampson

How about HR Puffin Stuff.  Didn't they have a little band going?

I also believe that Sigmund and Seamonsters rocked it out a few times.

Derek



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Jerry Curry


The Jetson's featured the family in a band, right?
I think they were called the "Way Outs".

Andeven though I don't remember the name of the cartoon
band in the Flintstones, I do remember part of the song.

"In Bedrock, twitch, twitch.."

Thanks for dragging me into TV Hell.  Now, I'm recalling
Lenny's cool greaser jacket.it read One Wolf, instead
of Lone Wolf.  Why does that shit stick in one's head and yet
I can't grasp C++ programming? g

NP: Sloan - Navy Blues

JC



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Derek Sampson

The Jetson's featured the family in a band, right?
I think they were called the "Way Outs".

The Jetsons did have the "Way Outs," as well as "Jet Screamer."

Andeven though I don't remember the name of the cartoon
band in the Flintstones, I do remember part of the song.

"In Bedrock, twitch, twitch.."

Fred Flinstone was also doing a little solo act as "Hi Fi"

Can you hear em
Grab'em, nab'em
Listen to them Rock, Listen to them sing
Oh the Humming Bird is singing somethin somethin

psst Wilma did ya hear?  I heard Hi Fi is a square (made with hand
gesture)

Derek



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Hill, Christopher J

 Why does that shit stick in one's head and yet
 I can't grasp C++ programming? g
 
TV memory cells have been proven scientifically to
be superior in a Darwinian sense to anything related
to career growth.  Also, beer has formed a non-
aggression pact with the tv cells, and they gang up 
on the career cells.  

Chris
NP: Pinetop Seven - No Breath in the Bellows



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Jeanne Berrong

Later on, didn't The Dickies cover this one too? and the theme from
"Gigantor?" My punk rock memory is failing me in my old age (to make room
for all this twang stuff no doubt) . . .

Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la

One banana, two banana, three banana, four
Four bananas make a bunch and so do many more.
Over hill and highway the banana buggies go,
Coming up to bring you the Banana Splits show

Tra la la, la la la la

Four bananas, three bananas, two bananas, one
All bananas playing in the bright warm sun,
Flipping like a pancake, popping like a cork,
Fleagle, Bingo, Drooper and Snork.

Tra la la, la la la la
Tra la la, la la la la






Kentucky Wildcats... and then some

1999-01-26 Thread Ndubb

Just wanted to use my allotment of fluff for the week to express a few
opinions:

University of Kentucky basketball sucks,
Jason  the Scorchers have been so over for a decade,
Whiskeytown sounds like the Waterboys
and
Michael Jordan is an American hero.

That is all.

Neal Weiss



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread JKellySC1

Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution.

Long before Prince stole the name, these primates rocked.

Slim



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Michael J. Cempa

 Fred Flinstone was also doing a little solo act as "Hi Fi"
 
 Can you hear em
 Grab'em, nab'em
 Listen to them Rock, Listen to them sing
 Oh the Humming Bird is singing somethin somethin
 
 psst Wilma did ya hear?  I heard Hi Fi is a square (made with hand

Didn't Pebbles and BamBam have a hit song something
like "Open up your heart and let the Sunshine in".
(This would be in the Flintstones...not that lame
spinoff when they were teenagers)

Also, Fat Albert and the Cosby kids always had some song
at the end of their show, and live-action Bill used to
dance around and make goofy faces.  I think it was a rule  
in the 70's that you had to have a song near the end
of almost every Saturday mornin' cartoon.

Mike





RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

   Didn't Pebbles and BamBam have a hit song something
   like "Open up your heart and let the Sunshine in".

Uh, that was Buck Owens.

Sorry for the twang content.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Hill, Christopher J

Have we mentioned The Chipmunks yet?  (Every album
becomes a Chipmunks album with the proper rpm increase).

Chris



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Jeanne Berrong

I know that The Brady Bunch was already mentioned, but in addition to the
Peter voice changing episode (song:  "When it's time to change you've got
to rearrange"), I remember the episode where the kids go on a TV talent
show as "The Silver Platters" to win the cash for an anniversary gift for
their parents (song: "I think I'll go for a walk outside/the summer sun's
coming my way/I just can't stay inside all day/I've got to get up . . .
it's a sunshine day") and the
Marsha-inviting-Davy-Jones-to-her-junior-high-dance episode (I think he
sings some song like, "Girl, look what you've done to me"). How about the
Johnny Bravo episode where Gregg gets a recording contract because he "fits
the suit?"





Re: Kentucky Wildcats... and then some

1999-01-26 Thread sslone

As a native of Lexington, KY, I must defend the honor of my beloved 
Wildcats.  I watched them demolish Mississippi State the other day.  
And they've gotten up for big wins against Maryland and Auburn this 
year.  If things go well, they could go far again this year.  So 
there. 

As to your other comments...  the Scorchers are still scorching.  
Ryan Adams does bear a physical resemblance to "This Is the Sea"-era 
Mike Scott (but Whiskeytown doesn't really sound like the Waterboys). 
And Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time.

--Slonedog



A feature on Boston Country

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Ostwald

Good news about The Darlings.

Stacey, you need to have a little "chat" with Steve about Hell Country

---
Country music is singing the blues
Once thriving, the local sene falls victim to changing tastes and talent
drain

By Steve Morse, Globe Staff, 01/24/99

Nashville stars are hitting it big in Boston. Garth Brooks and Reba McEntire
have played the FleetCenter. Shania Twain and Travis Tritt have headlined
Great Woods. Clint Black and Trisha Yearwood have stopped at the South Shore
Music Circus. And George Strait is expected to headline Foxboro Stadium this
summer, sharing a bill with the suddenly hot Dixie Chicks.

Yet, while major tours are drawing large numbers in the Boston market, these
successes have not translated to the local club scene, which has dried up
dramatically in recent years.

Indeed, the honky-tonks are fading fast from the city and its surrounding
environs. Where there were once 20-plus clubs in the region offering four to
seven nights of country music per week, there are now just a handful - and
none in Boston proper. The scene has been decimated by changing tastes, by
the line-dancing phenomenon (which in turn burned itself out), by a talent
drain to Nashville, by dwindling radio support, and by an aging country
audience that seems to only go out for special shows by the Garths and Rebas
of the world.

Nor is Nashville - apart from its top stars - immune from this identity
crisis. Major tours are still doing well, but country record sales have
slipped from a high of 18.7 percent of the overall market in 1993, to 14
percent last year, according to published trade reports. Country's roots are
being eaten away, as more entertainers sound like glossy, adult-pop acts
rather than twangy country singers. And more are trying to follow the path
of Shania Twain and Faith Hill, who had puffy Top 40 pop hits last year, as
the line blurred between the genres.

In Boston, there are still some enduring artists keeping the flame alive -
John Lincoln Wright, John Penny, Robin Right, Johnny White, and Allen Estes,
to name a few. Plus, there are fresh faces in Dave Foley, Terri Bright,
Paved Country, Mary Gauthier, and the Darlings - a new country-rock band
that just won a national battle-of-the-bands contest in Nashville. But
overall, the scene is singing the blues - the ''long gone lonesome blues,''
as Hank Williams once whined.

''It's really not a bad scene as long as you're willing to make no money,''
says a rather sarcastic Brian Sinclair, who has been a disc jockey at
Saturday morning's ''Hillbilly at Harvard'' show on WHRB-FM (95.3) for 33
years. He's seen the comings and goings - mostly goings - of a Boston scene
that is becoming more fragmented by the day.

How fragmented? Try this: There is little overlap between old and new acts,
and between acts that perform contemporary versus traditional country -
shades of the same battle that exists between alternative and classic rock.

Consumers are being left with a depleted sense of history (also a problem
nationally when you realize that pioneer George Jones has no recording
contract these days) and with a cynicism that suggests that someone has a
better chance of winning the lottery than making it from Boston in the
country field.

Success in Nashville

The only export to find significant success in recent years is Jo Dee
Messina, a Holliston native who used to play the now-vanished jamborees
around town. She moved to Nashville right after high school in 1991, then
starved a few years before the fates smiled on her. ''It was a crazy dream
to go to Nashville, but I'm living it. And God, it's great. I'm so lucky,''
Messina says.

She's lucky to have escaped a club scene that is a shell of its former self.
Just look at all the local clubs that have gone to hillbilly heaven: the
Blue Star in Saugus, the Hillbilly Ranch in Park Square, Nashville North in
the Theater District, the Adelphia in Dorchester, Kevin's Country Corner in
Somerville, Sacco's in Watertown, Cowboys in Saugus, J.R.'s in Beverly, and
the Wagon Wheel in Ayer.

''I can't supply a living to my musicians anymore,'' says John Lincoln
Wright, a local legend whose group the Sour Mash Boys scrambles to find work
where it can. Wright used to be a mainstay in the city, but his most regular
gig now is playing Sunday nights at the tiny Middle East bakery room in
Cambridge.

Wright is one of a diehard group of country performers who blames the
line-dancing trend for shredding the scene. Line-dancing - a kind of ''Urban
Cowboy, Part II'' movement with dance steps done in line formations to
DJ -spun records - rendered live bands superfluous. Line-dancers required
bigger dance floors (hence they weren't interested in the smaller
honky-tonks) and when they did show up for live bands, they often complained
that those bands didn't play the exact rhythms of the songs that they had
learned in their line-dancing lessons.

''We even use a metronome now to try to get the beats 

RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Don Yates



On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote:

  Didn't Pebbles and BamBam have a hit song something
  like "Open up your heart and let the Sunshine in".
 
 Uh, that was Buck Owens.
 
Much as I hate to contribute to this dubious thread (Jerry Curry's
probably jumping with joy over all this questionable music content), those
are two different songs.  Don't ask me how I know that.--don



RE: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Matt Benz



 Pretty sure it's simple dreams but wouldnt swear to it.
 And I agree Zevon needs every due he's due.  I understand he's without
 a label
 right now - that right?  Crying shame.
 
[Matt Benz]  No, it is Simple Dreams, now that I think of it;
with Tumblin Dice, Blue Bayou, etc on there.

Zevon's the whip. Or one of em, anyway. That whole EL LAY sound
of the 70's, early 80's needed a good shot of cynical (before it was
used for Miller Beer commercials) morbid humor to give a bitter taste to
the sweet n lite, and WZ was just the man to deliver. The fact that he
got so many of his songs covered by Rondstadt is interesting,
considering his left of center viewpoint and edgy songs. 



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Ndubb

Speaking of TV bands, just the other day I lunched with my wife at her new job
at Warner Brothers for the first time. No more than 200 yards from her office
is the house where the Partridge Family lived. And yep, there was the garage
where the kids made such beatiful music. Thought it was kinda cool, even if I
more a Brady Bunch fan myself. 

NW



RE: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread Matt Benz


 Pshaw... a truly pointless comparison. Besides, Nirvana rawked. And
 except
 for, say, "Roundabout," John Anderson really annoys me. But that
 Wakeman can
 tickle the ivories something fierce.
 
[Matt Benz]  Pssst, hey Neil:   it's *JON* Anderson. An
important distinction, as all Jon's and John's will note.

No long distance runaround from this cat.




RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote:

 Didn't Pebbles and BamBam have a hit song something
 like "Open up your heart and let the Sunshine in".
 
  Uh, that was Buck Owens.

 Much as I hate to contribute to this dubious thread (Jerry Curry's
 probably jumping with joy over all this questionable music content), those
 are two different songs.  Don't ask me how I know that.

All right, I won't, but here's something interesting: the
not-always-reliable All-Music Guide shows the writer of the Pebbles/Bam-Bam
"hit" (geez, was it really like an actual, charting hit?) as Hamblen, no
first name, and sure enough, the great Stuart Hamblen has a song registered
with ASCAP by that title.  Is this for real, or did the AMG get it wrong,
and yet another writer is responsible for the cartoon song?  If it's really
Stuart Hamblen, I might like to hear that.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread Ndubb

  Pshaw... a truly pointless comparison. Besides, Nirvana rawked. And
  except
  for, say, "Roundabout," John Anderson really annoys me. But that
  Wakeman can
  tickle the ivories something fierce.
  
[Matt Benz]  Pssst, hey Neil:   it's *JON* Anderson. An
 important distinction, as all Jon's and John's will note. 

Oh, I'm very away that it's *JON* and not *JOHN.* But who said Yes fans had
the skills to differentiate so thoroughly? 

No on Yes.

*Neal* not *Neil* Weiss g



Re: Graham Parker (was Re: Question about TV bands)

1999-01-26 Thread Jim_Caligiuri

Just got this press release. thought some of you might be interested.

For Immediate Release   January 26,
1999
GRAHAM PARKER TO RELEASE INTERNET ONLY ALBUM.
LOOSE MONKEYS, SPARE TRACKS AND LOST DEMOS TO BE RELEASED EXCLUSIVELY
THROUGH RAZOR  TIE WEBSITE.

 On March 15, Graham Parker will make history.  Parker's own Up Yours
label will unleash his new collection of rare and unreleased material,
Loose Monkeys, Spare Tracks and Lost Demos.  Here's the catch:  The CD will
be released exclusively through Razor  Tie's website
(www.razorandtie.com).  The songs included are from the years 1983-1996 and
they have been chosen by GP himself.
 The tracks on the album range from bare bones, just Graham and a
guitar to the lushly orchestrated "Wherever You Are," culled from the
sessions for his 1983 album The Real Macaw. Of the 20 tracks on Loose
Monkeys...19 are GP originals.  The track listing is as follows:

 1. There's A Ghost In My House (R. Dean Taylor/Holland/Dozier/Holland)
 2. Burnin' On A Higher Plane
 3. Durban Poison
 These tracks are demos from 1986 and feature Brinsley Schwartz and
Andrew Bodnar, formerguitarist and bassist for Graham's classic band,
The Rumour.  "There's A Ghost In My House" is  a cover of R.Dean
Taylor's Motown hit.

 4. Tortured Soul (demo--1993)
 5. Wherever You Are (1983--From The
Real McCaw sessions)

 6. Dead To The World
 7. Hormone Of Love
 8. Everything Goes (version 1)
 9. I'm In Love With You
 10. Natalie
 11. I Just Can't Capture Her   Imagination (version 1)
 12. Corporate Rock
 13. Love In The Air
 --Demos from December, 1985.

 14. Waiting For The Next World
 15. I Just Can't Capture Her   Imagination
 16. She's Been Working
 --Demos from September, 1986.

 17. Still Got My Face (1993)
 18. Don't Kid Yourself (1992)
 19. The Invisible Woman (1991)
 20. Guillotine Of Guadeloupe (1996--From Acid Bubblegum sessions)




Re: A feature on Boston Country

1999-01-26 Thread jon_erik

 Interesting article.  I missed this when I was looking through the
Globe on Sunday.  Yup, it can sure be grim here if you're in a local
country band and aren't playing at rock clubs (as several do).  Morse
didn't mention the Fritters, who I think highly of (particularly the Rose
Maddox-ish vocals of their singer, Betsy Nichols), though they rarely
play live - maybe once every couple of months - so the omission is
understandable.  Nor did he mention the Stumbleweeds, who *do* play live
around here at least two or three times a month, so there's less of an
excuse there.  Nor did he mention the Bag Boys, who hold court every
Saturday afternoon at the Plough and Stars in the heart of Cambridge
(Paul Burch fans--word is that he's coming up to Beantown in the next
couple of months to do some recording and playing with them).

 Since when has Loosigian been in the Darlings?  What happened to
that guy Rik (the one who looked like a leftover member of Slade) who
used to play guitar for them?  Y'know, I'm happy that a local band won
that contest and everything, but I've seen those guys five or six times
and I've just never been able to warm up to 'em.

 Loved this part:

WKLB, which sponsors a country festival at Great Woods each summer (with
Nashville headliners) and cosponsors summer events at Indian Ranch in
Webster, has no time slot devoted to local music, but ''that's not to
say
there won't be one in the future,'' says music director Ginny Rogers. 

 Well, I'll say it:  No, there won't be one in the future.  

--Jon Johnson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Wollaston, Massachusetts

 



RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Matt Benz

The Happy Days band never decided on a name; at one point, they were
just known as "The Band." you know, when they backed Leather at a Ski
Lodge, and Richie-mulit instrumentalist- went out the door while playing
his guitar solo. Came back in all covered with that fake tv snow. Oh,
how we laughed.



 -Original Message-
 From: Michele Flannery [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 2:40 PM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  RE: Question about "TV bands"
 
 Yep, she definitely had a band on that show - Pinky and the
 Leatherettes? I
 know she also played with Richie and Potsie's cool rock n' roll
 bandand
 I'm now I'm recalling Laverne  Shirley singing back up so I think
 I've gone
 crazy.
 
 - michele
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 11:33 AM
 To: passenger side
 Subject: RE: Question about "TV bands"
 
 
 I can't believe no one's mentioned Pinky Tuscadero from Happy Days
 played
 by Suzi Quatro. Did she have a band on that show?
 Well the rest of the day is lost now. It'll be hard to concentrate
 with
 both the picture of Suzi in head to toe leather and Marie in a white
 fringed jumpsuit, running around my brain all day. g
 Jim, smilin'



Outlaw Blues

1999-01-26 Thread Todd Larson

The movie "Outlaw Blues" has been on cable this month, and I've got a
question about the theme song that maybe someone here can answer. Who wrote
it?  I'm wondering because the music credits at the end of the film list
John Oates.  Is this the John Oates of Hall and Oates fame?

(For those who haven't seen this 1977 film, it stars Peter Fonda and Susan
Saint James.  Fonda is an ex-con attempting to get payback from a big
country star named Garland Dupree who stole his song "Outlaw Blues" while
he was locked up at Huntsville.  Pretty entertaining stuff, and much of it
was filmed in Austin.)




Re: A feature on Boston Country

1999-01-26 Thread Hellcountry


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Morse
didn't mention the Fritters

Who've broken up Jon...sorry to be the one to break the news.  Rumor has it
that Betsey will be trying to advance herself as a guitarist and strike out
on her own at some point.  The other band that Fritters members are in - The
Pineapple Ranch Hands - a hawaiian country swing band - are doing quite well
though...coming to a Hellcountry show near you.

This article was mentioned to me about thirty times in the last few days,
and I'm wondering how he could overlook Hellcountry if he's on my mailing,
and email lists.
Maybe being ignored is better than being lumped into something though, and
he was pretty far off target about the scene.  Enough, my blood pressure is
rising and I'll be damned if I'm going to let itg.

Nice to have Country Standard Time do a feature on the Hellcountry series
this month though, and issues are all over (insert your) town with the Steve
Earle / Del McCoury cover.



Stacey
Hellcountry "supporting the Boston area twang scene"
http://www.hellcountry.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)

1999-01-26 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 RE: other voices -
Linda Ro.. by Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Zevon's the whip. Or one of em, anyway. That whole EL LAY sound
 of the 70's, early 80's needed a good shot of cynical (before it was
 used for Miller Beer commercials) morbid humor to give a bitter taste to
 the sweet n lite, and WZ was just the man to deliver. The fact that he
 got so many of his songs covered by Rondstadt is interesting,
 considering his left of center viewpoint and edgy songs. 

That viewpoint might be considered right-of-center, if gun ownership and
military content are relevant variables to you.  I think Zevon's written
more gun songs than Ted Nugent has, and some of the percussion on
"Jungle Work" consists of him shooting a pistol into a garbage can full
of gravel.

Zevon just celebrated a birthday, is perhaps the only songwriter to have
ever namechecked the SEC ("Seminole Bingo", cowritten by Carl Hiaasen),
sang "Lawyers, Guns, and Money" at Jesse "The Governor" Ventura's
inauguration, and is on tour as we speak.  I'm going to try to catch him
Saturday in Pittsburgh (Amy Rigby opens).

don't the sun look angry at me,
Carl Z. 



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 RE: Question about
"TV bands" by Michele Flannery@spinner 
 I can't believe no one's mentioned Pinky Tuscadero from Happy Days played
 by Suzi Quatro. Did she have a band on that show?

I can't recall the band name, but they did perform "Down at Devilgate
Drive" on the show.

Carl Z. 



RE: A feature on Boston Country

1999-01-26 Thread Jon Weisberger

WKLB, which sponsors a country festival at Great Woods each summer (with
Nashville headliners) and cosponsors summer events at Indian Ranch in
Webster, has no time slot devoted to local music, but ''that's not to
say there won't be one in the future,'' says music director Ginny Rogers.

 Well, I'll say it:  No, there won't be one in the future.

Now, now, you can never be too sure.  Our biggest local mainstream country
station - CMA Large Market Station Of The Year WUBE-FM - recently allocated
a hefty 2-hour time slot each week to classic country.  Of course, it's 6-8a
Sunday morning, and "classic" means from the 1980s...

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Jerry Curry

On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, marie arsenault wrote:

 I was only nine. I'm sure I was wearing a highly flammable
 polyester ensemble with a crocheted vest.
 
Hmmwill this outfit be making an appearance at NEA?
Would look quite delightful with those boots you wore
to the Lucinda Williams show. g

VISA - The "freedom" fabric!

JC



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread William F. Silvers



Mitch wrote:

 C'mon you people, that's not deep enough:

 F Troop - A Beatles ripp-off in the 1870s (is that possible?) comes to Fort
 Courage, and Corporal Agarn (Larry Storch) chooses to manage them.

Mitch, I thought I'd be the only person to remember this, much less to admit so in
public. gDude, you'd better write Junior off-list. I bow to your acumen.

They did a cover of "Green Tambourine", the Lemon Pipers smash hit, fronted by the
cowgirl who had a crush on Captain Parmenter. (Ken Berry, and sorry can't remember
the gal's name or her character's.)
"And so we resume with a bang and a boomF-Troop!"

strengthening P2 with every non-twang music post, g
b.s.




Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt

1999-01-26 Thread Jerry Curry

On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Stevie Simkin wrote:

 
 I'm hoping that Trio II delivers the goods.  And is there talk of an 
 emmylou/linda duets album too?
 

I can confirm that this is in the can, so to speak.  My inside source
was telling me over New Year's, that it is one fine piece of work.  She
thought it was even better than the new Trios CD.  Her enthusiasm was most
certainly infectious.  So, I'm looking quite forward to it.

However, I'm a bit biased in that I've always loved Linda Ronstadt's
output top to bottom.  Ok, count me out on that recent lullabies fiasco.
Her 70's lite country-rock stuff fit me to a T.  However, you all know
about my affection for lite country-rock and how that adds to my
*questionable* tastes g.

Regarding Zevon.  I used to work with a woman that dated a fishing guide
from South Florida.  This guide fellow is great friends with Carl Hiassin,
who just so happens to be great friends with Zevon.  The long  short, is
that she's been on fishing expeditions with this guide, Carl, and Warren.
Se definitely has some stories to tell and is quite fond of Zevon.  Very
very dry biting wit supposedly.  This woman I used to work with by the way
was supposedly the inspiration for the main protaganist character in
_Striptease_.  Yeah, the character played so clumsily by Demi Moore.  This
was never confirmed though.

JC
Jerry Curry - Spectre Booking
Independence, Oregon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the Top 40, half the songs are secret messages to the teen world to
drop out, turn on, and groove with the chemicals and light shows at
discotheques.  -- Art Linkletter





Re: Letter to the Editor

1999-01-26 Thread Mike Hays

I've been following this "thread" about new country versus old country
that spawned from WKKG's PD Scott Micheals' comments. While in many ways
I do tend to agree with Scott, BEFORE you all start flaming me just hear
me out. You never hear about Motown artists complaining about today's pop
radio not playing their music, even though their music, just like country
music from the same time period is nothing short of legendary. Alabama
has been on country radio for YEARS. On the pop-rock stations the same
can be said for The Rolling Stones. These artists have kept up with the
times and "rolled with the changes" Age has nothing to do with good or
bad music.
A radio station is a business, and a business has to make money to STAY
in business. How long would a retail store keep their employees and
remain open if they sold "great" items that only a few people purchased?
-Greg Breeden
WKHK
No flames here but I happen to know Greg and I also happen to know that
Greg, one of the better air talents in Virginia,  was a part of the only
station to take WKHK down a notch or two in the last ten years, a station
called "The Bear" which was, according to Arbitron, slowly but steadily
eroding KHK's market share, enough so that it was bought by and shut down by
KHK.  The Bear was closer to Real Country music with a mix of currents
thrown in than anything around and it had a 50 or 100K signal on a big (make
that giant) stick.  It was best said by the line "Listeners' memories go
much farther back than most station research."  And it takes people who know
and understand country music and the country audience (and every market is a
bit different) to program stations that can be successful, not Hot A/C or
Rock programmers lured by big $.  The HNC stations  are dropping like flies
off a meat wagon that was the ride to the top and is now the ride to
mediocrity.  Only when country stations get local and back in touch with
their audience, put radio people in charge of radio stations and start
demanding from Nashville music the listeners really want to hear, will
country radio have a chance to make another return to the top.   I seriously
doubt this will happen as too much consolidation has left the companies with
debt loads that are forcing generic programming into hundreds of stations in
a misguided attempt to save a buck.  I'll never believe that a consultant in
New York or LA can tell me what my audience wants to hear, the only thing a
consultant can tell me is what the labels are paying him to tell me.  Bring
any consultant to my market and walk down main street with me, leave your
ears open and learn something.
Mike Hays

P.S. As for the Motown artists, I can hear them in damn near any market I go
to, it's called the oldies format, no wonder they aren't complaining

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trios and things

1999-01-26 Thread Stevie Simkin

Just found a fascinating interview with Linda Ronstadt about working with
Emmylou and Dolly.

Here's the link. Well worth a read. Stevie

http://www.ais-gwd.com/~tpartridge/intgm.htm




Re: Outlaw Blues

1999-01-26 Thread Joe Gracey

Todd Larson wrote:
 
 The movie "Outlaw Blues" has been on cable this month, and I've got a
 question about the theme song ...Pretty entertaining stuff, and much of it
 was filmed in Austin.)

Yeah boy, when they came here to film that thing we all said "things are
happening to us now!". We all thought it was but the beginning of a
massive inflow of industry weasels and labels and publishers and record
deals for everybody and probably the Apocalypse, too. After all, we had
just won the Billboard Trendsetter of the Year Award at KOKE-FM for
having the idea to play country-rock music! And Willie lived here and
was starting his own label! And Texas Chainsaw had just been done here!
etc etc. 

some of them things happened but most didn't, and it took another twenty
years for any of it to happen in a meaningful way, and there still ain't
no labels or publishers here bigger than a thimblefull of horseshit.

However, the live scene is still cool. And with Seagrams (!) owning half
of the world now, I don't think banking on major labels will get any of
us very far...  
-- 
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
http://www.kimmierhodes.com



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Masonsod

In a message dated 1/26/99 7:41:06 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can't believe no one's mentioned Pinky Tuscadero from Happy Days played
 by Suzi Quatro. Did she have a band on that show?
  
No, the Richie/Potsy/Ralph Experience usually backed her up.

Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road

np: John upstairs again, talking to Rosie O'Donnell



Re: Letter to the Editor

1999-01-26 Thread Mike Hays

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Old 97's

1999-01-26 Thread Mike Hays




A friend of mine who knows the boys quite well (he 
remembers them when they were clean cut local boys up this way) said they are 
booked for three movie tracks in the next couple of months and are doing quite 
well by thathmmm, maybe we all need to think - write for the 
movies!
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Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Tar Hut Records

Of course - everyone knows why the Beau Brummels called themselves, that,
right? Probably an "easy" level trivia question for you folks on P2.

By the way, I saw somewhere that John Easdale, formerly of the fabulous
Dramarama, has a solo record out? Can anyone tell me about it? I remember
discovering Dramarama at the college radio station at Kent State and
flipping out when "Vinyl" came out. Anyone know how I can get my grubby
little hands on a copy of this solo album?

Thanks.
jc


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Question about "TV bands"


In a message dated 1/26/99 7:32:35 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Also, the Beau Brummels on the Flintstones. 

Absolutely one of the best Flintstone episodes ever!

Ask Matt Benz or Jamie Sovine my Shakespearian interpretation of the famous
scene from that episode in which Barney drops the bowling ball in Fred's
foot,a nd thus, creates "The Frantic."

BTW, they were the Beau Brummelstones, and the show was Shinrock.

Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road




RE: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Derek Sampson

scene from that episode in which Barney drops the bowling ball in
Fred's
foot,a nd thus, creates "The Frantic."

Which was soon followed by the "Flinstone Flop" later in the episode.

D



Re: Movie Music (was Re: Old 97's)

1999-01-26 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 Movie Music (was
Re: Old 97's) by Carl Abraham Zimring@and 
 P.P.S. Anyone have data on how many records he sold before and after
 David Lynch used "Wicked Game"?  I'd bet he'd no longer be on a major
 label if not for that choice soundtrack placement. 

He=Chris Isaak. 



Re: A feature on Boston Country

1999-01-26 Thread Hellcountry


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Dang it, but how ironic that Country Standard Time gives Hellcountry it's
due,
while the Globe misses the point altogether.


Yah, but the Herald just emailed that they're putting something in this week
and want an interview so f*** 'em I sayg.  Some folks out there *do*
actually know something about the scene they write about.

Stacey
(who's very excited to have Elena playing Hellcountry Friday)

Hellcountry "supporting the Boston area twang scene"
http://www.hellcountry.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Movie Music (was Re: Old 97's)

1999-01-26 Thread Mike Hays

Carl Z. writes:
P.S. How many soundtrack albums are in the Billboard Top 200 chart?
More to the point, how many soundtrack albums have TOPPED that chart in
the past two years?
I bet Mr. Weisberger can address that but I know the "Hope Floats"
soundtrack has done well sales wise. As for any other country related I
don't recall any but the Pure Country" ST as doing well and that was really
a Strait project more or less.

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Re: Field Report:The Hogwaller Ramblers

1999-01-26 Thread Danlee2

 CDs will be going out this week to various DJs and writer types that I've
been culling from this list for the past couple of months. I hope ( you know
who
  you are) like it. 

  Make sure you slip a $5 into that Neal Weiss package; gua-ran-td
positive ree-vyew.  Guaranteed.

Greil Bentele



speaking of Shatner......

1999-01-26 Thread Danlee2

Did anyone happen to catch his.performance (?) on Conan a few
nights ago with some band called "Fear Of Pop"?  Shatner did a kind of spoken
word piece over some sort of avant-pop music, Ben Folds was on keys, and...man
it was weird.  Is this an ongoing act?  Is there a record as well?  I like
really bad stuff like that, and I might even buy it.  Hell, I still want to
buy that Pat Boone metal record.

 I mean it was *wd*.

uhh, insert some geeky Star Trek sign-off here, I never watched it,
Dan



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Masonsod

In a message dated 1/26/99 9:20:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 They did a cover of "Green Tambourine", the Lemon Pipers smash hit, fronted
by the
 cowgirl who had a crush on Captain Parmenter. (Ken Berry, and sorry can't
remember
 the gal's name or her character's.) 

The gal character's name was Wrangler Jane (Don't know her real name, and I
have some episodes on video, but the VCR is on the fritz).

Sorry B.S., but it wasn't "Green Tamborine." They did "Mr. Tamborine Man" and
"Lemon Tree."

Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road

np: John (renter) mumbling (can't decipher)



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread Masonsod

In a message dated 1/26/99 9:41:19 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 scene from that episode in which Barney drops the bowling ball in
 Fred's
 foot,a nd thus, creates "The Frantic."
 
 Which was soon followed by the "Flinstone Flop" later in the episode.
  
And then ended with Barney running from Fred, Fred hitting his head, and
Barney joking to Wilma that the new dance of Fred holding his head and jumping
around was "The Flintstone Frenzy."

Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road

np: John (renter) just yelled at the TV again.



Boston country radio (was about Morse article)

1999-01-26 Thread Joyce Linehan

On Tuesday, January 26, 1999 3:01 PM, Jon Weisberger 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 WKLB, which sponsors a country festival at Great Woods each summer 
(with
 Nashville headliners) and cosponsors summer events at Indian Ranch in
 Webster, has no time slot devoted to local music, but ''that's not to
 say there won't be one in the future,'' says music director Ginny 
Rogers.
 
  Well, I'll say it:  No, there won't be one in the future.

 Now, now, you can never be too sure.  Our biggest local mainstream 
country
 station - CMA Large Market Station Of The Year WUBE-FM - recently 
allocated
 a hefty 2-hour time slot each week to classic country.  Of course, it's 
6-8a
 Sunday morning, and "classic" means from the 1980s...

There is another commercial country station in the Boston market - WCAV in 
Brockton.  They have a great Sunday night show, hosted by Ed the Detective. 
 Lots of old stuff, and good new stuff, though I don't think he's so much 
into the alt.country/rock.  Lately the rest of the week they've mainly been 
using syndicated programs, I hae heard (from John Lincoln Wright) that 
they're coming off the satellite soon.  That could be good.  PLUS, listing 
to WCAV, one gets to hear the Brockton Enterprise jingle, which is truly 
the worst jingle ever.

Though Steve Morse's article had some inaccuracies, it's really nice to see 
those Harvard Hillbillies get some attention.  I think people forget about 
them because they've been around for so damn long.  I love a show that will 
play Alan Jackson into Dale Watson into Patty Loveless in Danni Leigh. 
 It's worth getting up on Saturday mornings to listen to.  Plus, they're 
the nicest guys in the world.

WKLB sponsored a show this summer that Mike Ireland played at.  It was very 
funny having to explain who Mike was so the lady from the station could 
introduce him.  She was very impressed when I told her they had an album 
out on Sire.  I think she thought they were from North Quincy or something. 
 



Re: Question about TV bands

1999-01-26 Thread William F. Silvers

Mitch wrote:

 The gal character's name was Wrangler Jane (Don't know her real name, and I
 have some episodes on video, but the VCR is on the fritz).

 Sorry B.S., but it wasn't "Green Tamborine." They did "Mr. Tamborine Man" and
 "Lemon Tree."

Wow. OK, Mitch, like I said, I bow to your knowledge. I just remembered the song
as hopelessly lame, but in defense of my CRS here, I haven't seen it since it was
first aired. You've got tapes of F-Troop? Whoa. g

b.s.





Re: Hazeldine/Mekons/Wild and Blue et al

1999-01-26 Thread Danlee2

MC 900 Ft. Ndubb writes:

 But who said Yes fans had
  the skills to differentiate so thoroughly? 

You'll never understand, Neal, you'll never understand.

Dan

n.p.  a bootleg, actually: "Siberian Fugues; Tales From Topographic Oceans-The
Unreleased Wakeman Jams"g


  



Re: Outlaw Blues

1999-01-26 Thread R.W.Shamy Jr.

Joe,   I was an extra on that movie set!   "Outlaw Blues"  was the film that
DID get things happening in Austin. RW ShamyWDVR-FM
-Original Message-
From: Joe Gracey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Outlaw Blues


Todd Larson wrote:

 The movie "Outlaw Blues" has been on cable this month, and I've got a
 question about the theme song ...Pretty entertaining stuff, and much of
it
 was filmed in Austin.)

Yeah boy, when they came here to film that thing we all said "things are
happening to us now!". We all thought it was but the beginning of a
massive inflow of industry weasels and labels and publishers and record
deals for everybody and probably the Apocalypse, too. After all, we had
just won the Billboard Trendsetter of the Year Award at KOKE-FM for
having the idea to play country-rock music! And Willie lived here and
was starting his own label! And Texas Chainsaw had just been done here!
etc etc.

some of them things happened but most didn't, and it took another twenty
years for any of it to happen in a meaningful way, and there still ain't
no labels or publishers here bigger than a thimblefull of horseshit.

However, the live scene is still cool. And with Seagrams (!) owning half
of the world now, I don't think banking on major labels will get any of
us very far...
--
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
http://www.kimmierhodes.com




Re: Bloodshot party

1999-01-26 Thread Cherilyn diMond

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, the subject of many a Meat Purveyor song wrote

Just to let y'all know, our little love letter to my former future
ex-husband is coming along nicely and will be good and ready by the P2 SXSW
BBQ. Which brings me to the party okay, I'm finally sending out the
invite info to the mailing list from last year (let me know if you don't
get one and you want one). It's gonna be Thursday the 18th so's not to
conflict with the ND party. That means everyone must get to Austin by
Wednesday night. OK? OK! Anyway, details are in the email going out right
about now.

Luv,
cherilyn,
meat purveyor.

p.s. thanks a bazillion to everyone who thought of us for the 1998 P2 poll.
It felt real nice to be in such good company.

p.p.s. recording I'm espcially excited about right now: Daniel Johnston's
new one. Good god almighty.





Re: Field Report:The Hogwaller Ramblers

1999-01-26 Thread Ndubb

In a message dated 1/26/99 2:29:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

  CDs will be going out this week to various DJs and writer types that I've
 been culling from this list for the past couple of months. I hope ( you know
 who
   you are) like it. 
 
   Make sure you slip a $5 into that Neal Weiss package; gua-ran-td
 positive ree-vyew.  Guaranteed. 

I've jacked it up to $10, for inflation and all. But if you give me one of
them crisp new funny looking twenties I be sure to include a line like: "hands
down the best album since Sgt. Pepper's."

Just earning a living,

Neal Weiss



Daniel Johnston (was Re: Bloodshot party)

1999-01-26 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 26-Jan-99 Re: Bloodshot party
by Cherilyn diMond@earthlin 
 p.p.s. recording I'm espcially excited about right now: Daniel Johnston's
 new one. Good god almighty.

This flew underneath my radar until now.  Is Johnston still on Atlantic?
 Is he working with Paul Leary?  How is he doing? 



I can't help it...McHale's Navy TV-Rock Fluff

1999-01-26 Thread Cheryl Cline

I just remembered one of the weirdest TV-rock moments I ever experienced --
even weirder than ANY Shatner spoken-word thang (which, though I missed his
latest, are guaranteed to be pretty darn weird).

Anyway. There used to be this late-night TV show called "Night Flight",
which started out by running old movies and music videos, and ended up,
last I saw of it, by running cut-up pieces of old movies and videos
together -- weird TV in and of itself. Well, one night, probably about 2 or
3 a.m., I was watching "Night Flight" while simultaneously reading a novel,
listening to music on the stereo, and drinking coffee laced with bourbon.
I'd do this on Friday nights sometimes. Lynn My Spouse was out with his
buddies playing cutthroat double-rapid transit chess, you see, and I'd wait
up for him, mostly as an excuse to vege out in the above manner.

So, as I said, 'long about the early a.m., I look up from my book and see
the cast of McHale's Navy lined up on the ship's, er, front end the way
they'd do for the opening credits of the TV show. Wow, I think
nostalgically, I haven't seen that show in long time. So, I turn up the
sound. And what I hear, instead of the show's theme song, is...

"mm poppa oom mow mow, poppa oom mow mow"

*Cuh-lunk* went my jaw on the floor.

It was like American Bandstand got mixed up with the Twilight Zone and
produced this a capella band called McHale  the Navies. And boy, they went
at it! They started out kind sedate then got more and more animated,
Borgnine slapping his hand on the, er, prow? and all of them starting to
*get down* -- BUT -- all the while keeping the most serious deadpan
expressions you ever saw.

It was hilarious! It was sublime! 

Obviously it was an outtake they did in an odd (very odd!) moment... And if
ANYONE here knows where I can get my hands on a copy of this, please share
this information.

--Cheryl Cline



Re: A feature on Boston Country

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Soron

On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If you want my advice, based on my experience as having had the
 Bourbonaires called a psychobilly band in the Globe a couple of months
 back, is that this kind of crap simply happens.  I don't know if it's
 symptomatic of the Globe's widely-perceived decline, but, yeah, it could
 have been better.  I'm surprised that Morse missed it, though,
 particularly since he made such a point about local country acts having
 such a hard time playing out.  He also neglected to mention "C.S.T." at
 all, in spite of the mag's regular championing of local country acts, so
 don't feel too put out.  Jeff's probably peeved at the guy, too.

Stuart Munro and I have long had a running debate (which he's kept me
up-to-date on, sending me this article a day before it was posted here) on
which Boston Globe critic is doofier, Morse or Sullivan. A couple of
Sullivan's recent malpropisms have been pretty entertaining, I have to
admit. But ever since Morse wrote for Pop Top, a local monthly rag in the
mid-'70s (where he reviewed country almost exclusively), my attitude
toward him has been "If he can get it wrong, he will." At best, his
blinders can be pretty huge.

Bob

Oh yeah: However much the Globe has declined, it's still far, far better
than any media outlet in Chicago.



Re: Bloodshot party

1999-01-26 Thread Chad Hamilton

 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, P2's hostess with the mostest wrote:
 
  Just to let y'all know, our little love letter to my former future
  ex-husband is coming along nicely and will be good and ready by the P2 SXSW BBQ. 

Oh boy I can't wait.  Last year all I got was the amplified derogatory
question about my sexuality at the Bloodshot party.  This year its a
whole song.  I will be drinking heavily that morning. 
-- 
Chad Hamilton
University of Texas
Graduate School of Business
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: I can't help it...McHale's Navy TV-Rock Fluff

1999-01-26 Thread Brad Bechtel

Obviously it was an outtake they did in an odd (very odd!) moment... And if
ANYONE here knows where I can get my hands on a copy of this, please share
this information.

http://www.moviesunlimited.com/blooper.htm claims to have a whole bunch of such stuff, 
including:
Boob Tube Blunders
A delirious double feature of uncensored bloopers from days gone by. First, see flubs 
and goofs from "McHale's Navy," "Ben Casey," "Ozzie and Harriet" and more '60s faves, 
followed by Ruth Warrick, Susan Lucci and other daytime stars in the wildest miscues 
and practical jokes from the world of soap operas. 90 min. 
62-1356 Only $19.99 

I have seen this McHale outtake, and it is a classic.  A friend of mine used to have a 
tape of outtakes from "Mork and Mindy" that were some of the funniest TV I've ever 
seen.




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