Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A typical scenario for POI's HSSF (the Excel API), for instance, would > be for instance that you have a web application that provides a > financial report in HTML. Well the accounting department insists on > having it in Excel format. You have a fe

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On 1/10/02 6:26 AM, "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not necessarily true, I've worked on applications where a servers ability to > dynamically create M$ documents is a cool feature, imagine a servelet which > returned an xls workbook reporting on data from an ODBC datasource (maybe > s

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Not necessarily true, I've worked on applications where a servers ability to dynamically create M$ documents is a cool feature, imagine a servelet which returned an xls workbook reporting on data from an ODBC datasource (maybe sales figures or contact details), people in M$ centered offices lap th

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

MY APPOLOGIES. I realize some of these have already been covered and that this is "out of step" with time. I got some messages back because roadrunner (my ISP) seems to be using a Windows SMTP server. (deduction I make from the outages corresponding with the latest windows code-red-and-friends

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

MY APPOLOGIES. I realize some of these have already been covered and that this is "out of step" with time. I got some messages back because roadrunner (my ISP) seems to be using a Windows SMTP server. (deduction I make from the outages corresponding with the latest windows code-red-and-friends

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

As a newbie (only 1.5 years around) I found the small bio posted by Stefano on the Cocoon-dev list very interesting and instructive. This post was triggered by curiosity and know-your-community concerns that popped up in a couple of Cocoon-dev threads less than 2 months ago. IMO, the fact that it

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

Ted Husted wrote: > At this point, I'm reconciled to do more work on the Jakata site using > XML in the old-fashioned way. I can't resonate more with your feelings. That's exactly what made me started the 'forrest' effort: the coherence on xml.apache.org and the ease of update has been slowly fa

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:55 PM > > > On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > If you start at the top of the thread, I declare I am playing devils' > advocate, and addressi

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >> I doubt you are that different. > > *Looks down at his cookie monster slippers* +1! - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

On 1/6/02 1:17 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to > vote. > -Ambassador Kosh One of my favorite lines... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consult

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment]POI@apache]

>Answer inline >> -Original Message- >> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:53 AM >> > > ... >> > >> >I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported by >> >this article: >> > http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398 >

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On 1/6/02 12:56 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: >>> Man, people that want documents in Excel and Word formats ALREADY have the >>> client software!!! It is called Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel! >> >> I looked and looked on my linux box, but couldn't

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > > Man, people that want documents in Excel and Word formats ALREADY have the > > client software!!! It is called Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel! > > I looked and looked on my linux box, but couldn't find it. Send me a CD. How about saving the postage and downlo

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:16 PM >> Isn't it fair to guess that the majority of your server side >> use would be reading documents

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:16 PM > > >> Isn't it fair to guess that the majority of your server side > use would be > >> reading documents for presentation, indexing, searching? > > > > WHY for presentation?

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:14, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > BTW, do you know they use Velocity for something??? > > Who, POI? Cocoon have a VelocityGenerator (the first stage in their XML transformation pipeline). -- Cheers, Pete -- you've made a d

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Again... > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:14 PM > > On 1/6/02 12:11 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... Lots of "is it server or is it client" talk ... I just mean that sometimes saying that s

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On 1/6/02 12:18 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here we go again, Alas. > >> -Original Message- >> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:45 AM >> >> >> Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on addin

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On 1/6/02 12:11 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Geir, > Hi Paulo, >> -Original Message- >> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:30 AM >> >> ... >> >>> POI is as client-side as Tomcat is. >> >> Why do you say that

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Here we go again, > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:45 AM > > > Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things > to Jakarta... > > On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Hi Geir, > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:30 AM > > ... > > > POI is as client-side as Tomcat is. > > Why do you say that? It is used on the server side, and that's fantastic, > but in my opinion (note that I re

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

Answer inline > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:53 AM > > > ... > > > >I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported by > >this article: > >http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398 > > >

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things to Jakarta... On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please read these posts and then tell me where you're not clear? > > http://www.mail-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg02681.ht

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On 1/5/02 9:53 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and >> participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that >> bringing XML and J

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and >participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that >bringing XML and Jakarta together might destroy the thing we are >supposedly >trying to 'save' (

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

>Hi Andrew, >Before trying to "organizize" too much how Open Source development >works, >maybe you should consider that impositions of organization and >discipline >could kill the Golden Eggs Chicken. >I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported by >this article: >ht

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > > It's my understanding that Apache Projects' unity of purpose is > > > > "to encourage a collaborative, consensus-based development process" > > What does that exactly mean? Perhaps Stefano's original preamble said it best http://java.apache.org/main/constitution.

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: > Thats very high minded and a great mission statement in many respects. > I still say adding unity-of-purpose to Jakarta and creating some more > user-minded-distributions of things would be helpful from a user > perspective. If creating more user-minded-distributions i

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

t; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI > @apache] > > > Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to > contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had. > > I think th

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

>"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: >> > Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd >like to >> contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had. >These are very thoughtful commnents, Andrew, I hope you post again. Thanks. Perhaps, this list is a little high tr

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: >> >> Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to >> contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had. > > > > These are very thoughtful commnents, Andrew, I h

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

tevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI > @apache] > > > on 1/5/02 3:02 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > L

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: > > Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to > contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had. These are very thoughtful commnents, Andrew, I hope you post again. It's my understanding that Apache Projects' unity o

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had. I think this discussion is still missing the point. There are a lot of outsider articles on "what is wrong with Apache" these days, most of them refer to t

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

on 1/5/02 3:02 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look closely, Xerces 2 is the designated successor to *both* Xerces 1 and > Crimson. The developers *are* working together. I won't pretend that > everything is 100% smooth sailing, but significant progress is being made. Yea...just li

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

At 18:02 05.01.2002 -0500, you wrote: >Ceki Gülcü wrote: >> >> IMHO, XML does not and will never have a community as long as two of >> its most important projects directly compete with each other. The >> success of one is related with the failure of the other. XML >> Community? Won't happen in a m

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > IMHO, XML does not and will never have a community as long as two of > its most important projects directly compete with each other. The > success of one is related with the failure of the other. XML > Community? Won't happen in a million years. How the did Crimson > become a

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

Chris, I think you are confusing project categorization with project community. These things are very much unrelated. Regards, Ceki At 23:44 05.01.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hello, >Each structure has a cost depending on his level of organization. I think >there is today to many project in the jak

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

At 15:31 05.01.2002 +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [Snip] >In my mind, all this long trail of thoughs yields the following >equation: > > metacommunity size * community coherence * individual freedom = constant This equation is misleading. Coherence and individual freedom are not inversely pr

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

Hello, Each structure has a cost depending on his level of organization. I think there is today to many project in the jakarta and the xml project. I feel confuse about finding the right information at the right place. And I think it's high time to merge xml and jakarta. The way java is organizing

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Hi Paulo, >IMO Andrew puts the finger on why POI is only used on a server. > good! >One of my 2 interests (the other is indexing) >on POI is exactly the >typical one he describes: > - I want to be able build Word and Excel documents on a Web Server > without going back to use MS IIS and C

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

This is obvious from the "jakarta-commons" growing activity. More when you compare it with "xml-commons". Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:35 PM > > ... > > My feeling is that communities need a critica

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

At 10:40 AM 1/5/02 -0500, you wrote: >I would also like to personally commend Jon with his efforts to better >document Jakarta. He has put a lot into the Web site (probably 90%), and >we all owe him a great debt. > >-Ted. Despite Jon's "candid remarks," as you put it, Ted, I too would like him t

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > In my mind, all this long trail of thoughs yields the following > equation: > > metacommunity size * community coherence * individual freedom = > constant > > in result, if we unify the two projects, we double the size of the > metacommunity and we must pay the price o

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

finding out how much server side POI really is!!! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 3:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

About a year ago, the PMC co-opted the General list for it ongoing meetings. Since then, it's been used for both general interest discussions, like what's up with Linus or Microsoft, along with the general business of running Jakarta. It's possible that we may need to create a discussion list fo

On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > on 1/4/02 4:14 PM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That makes me wonder about the real causes of this "whole fucking mess" > > and "jakarta is fucked up today" feelings of yours... > > Of course. I forgot. I'm always wrong. Sorry. I wasn't thin

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Hi Pete, >> Me to. POI doesn't seem to have anything to do with XML and FOP is >> essentially a renderer for a XML dialect right ? > POI are codecs for reading different office formats in java. Sounds much more correction: reading and writing (I don't bother with simple "readers", there ar

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:53, Paulo Gaspar wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:16 PM > > > > ... > > > > Under the hood, I imagine that POI has more in common with things like > > FOP than things like Lucene. > > I

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/4/02 4:14 PM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That makes me wonder about the real causes of this "whole fucking mess" > and "jakarta is fucked up today" feelings of yours... Of course. I forgot. I'm always wrong. Sorry. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:18, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > Oh, and Stefano's stewardship more than sufficiently meets that > > particular criteria in my book. > > Yea, after I wrangled it out of him. This whole fucked mess would have been > averted if Stefano had simply stepped up and said he would

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > on 1/4/02 12:00 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2) Related to POI. As long as they know the current state of Jakarta and > > can make an informed decision, and meet all the criteria described in > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html, t

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/4/02 12:00 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) Related to POI. As long as they know the current state of Jakarta and > can make an informed decision, and meet all the criteria described in > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html, then they have my +1. > After all, wha

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Sam Ruby wrote: > 1) Perhaps we need to use the bug tracking system for PMC issues. That >would be a welcome improvement. Anybody care to take this one? Makes sense to me -- Can we list it as "PMC/Site2" ? Do I have karma to add this to bugzilla myself? -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fai

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Jon Stevens wrote: > > I'm not interested in bringing new projects into Jakarta when we are as > fucked up as we are today. It is utter anarchy here and I don't think that > is good. People can't even follow the rules we have *defined*. > > People, it isn't about code standards, that is just the s

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/4/02 9:14 AM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can agree with Paulo, POI is about generating/reading documents with a > particular foramt, and that is very useful to jakarta and xml. I > believe that if it came to Apache, if would belong under Jakarta, being > a Java tool, and

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

with other products (ie Lucene) to gain functionality in context. Scott Sanders > -Original Message- > From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:54 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: [Request For Commen

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

> -Original Message- > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:16 PM > > ... > > Under the hood, I imagine that POI has more in common with things like > FOP than things like Lucene. I fail to understand why you assume this. Why? I do not see POI m

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[note: no need to keep me copied since I subscribed] Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > on 1/3/02 5:31 AM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Exactly, ignoring M$ doesn't make it go away. I would say the opposite: > > there are tons of companies that base their document systems on M

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

You are right. I agree 100% with what you say here. My remark is no argument. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:35 PM > > > on 1/3/02 10:15 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/3/02 10:15 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Andrew remarks, it goes quite well with Lucene. It opens the door > to interesting synergies like: > Slide + Lucene + HTML+PDF+Word+Excel = indexed repository of the >most popular >

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/3/02 5:31 AM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exactly, ignoring M$ doesn't make it go away. I would say the opposite: > there are tons of companies that base their document systems on M$ > software and would like to move to a more open world but they simply > can't afford lo

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

It is server side if you want to serve other types of documents besides HTML. As Andrew remarks, it goes quite well with Lucene. It opens the door to interesting synergies like: Slide + Lucene + HTML+PDF+Word+Excel = indexed repository of the most popula

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

> Technically speaking, since POI is more or less a codec library (not > useful by itself), it could probably be better placed under > jakarta-commons. In that case, even less community > requirements would be > needed, even if I would still like to appear as a sponsoring > member for > that cod

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

That's true of most anything these days. Jakarta products use Xerces, and XML product use Ant. It just sounds like there is already strong support on XML, so perhaps it should be proposed there first. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts.

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > Excuse the phrasing I was attempting to be concise while getting the > > following point across: I see this project as potentially being of > > great benefit to both Jakarta developers and users. By "business sense" > > I mean to say that greater collaboration would

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On 1/3/02 8:21 AM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > >>> Comments? >> >> Why is it appropriate for Jakarta? That's the missing piece for me. You >> said that the Cocoon community is excited about it, it could be important >> for data conversion in

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > > Comments? > > Why is it appropriate for Jakarta? That's the missing piece for me. You > said that the Cocoon community is excited about it, it could be important > for data conversion in XML land... The missing piece might be that this library is general enough

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Like Geir, it's not clear to me why this is a better fit for jakarta.apache.org rather than xml.apache.org. I believe XML has the same basic criterion for a sub-project proposal as Jakart does. Our requirements for a proposal are here: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html http://jaka

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

ignore the less pleasant aspects. Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Stefano Mazzocchi > Subject: Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache > &g

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:20, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > I'm also a bit surprised/disappointed that no other PMC members have > commented...leaving me to be the one who has to say something *again*. I > guess discussion about code formatting is taking up everyone's time/energy. Some of us need more t

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:13, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > I'm writing, at the recommendation of Stefano Mazzocchi, in hopes of > drawing discussion and perhaps later a vote on the creation of a new > Jakarta subproject based on the POI project (http://poi.sourceforge.net > & http://sourcefoge.net/projec

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/2/02 12:27 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True. However, because the vision for the project involves and would > benefit both directly and indirectly several existing Apache projects, I > feel it would be easier to collaborate if POI was a Jakarta project. > The project

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

On 1/2/02 7:47 PM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please, keep me copied since I'm not currently subscribed to > general@jakarta > Why not ? :) > "Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: > >>> I don't see any convincing reason to bring POI to Jakarta, unless I see >>> that >>> you have a J

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Please, keep me copied since I'm not currently subscribed to general@jakarta "Andrew C. Oliver" wrote: > >I don't see any convincing reason to bring POI to Jakarta, unless I see > >that > >you have a Jakarta PMC member champion your cause. Stefano's > >recommendation > >to you isn't enough, he o

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

>It sounds like your project is plenty successful where it is. True. However, because the vision for the project involves and would benefit both directly and indirectly several existing Apache projects, I feel it would be easier to collaborate if POI was a Jakarta project. The project will of c

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

on 1/2/02 6:13 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for the repost, I realized that I'd incorrectly labeled the > post a reply (re:) and thought some folks may have not seen it because > of that. A quick update, POI is the #10 project on sourceforge this > morning. It soun

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Hi, I'm writing, at the recommendation of Stefano Mazzocchi, in hopes of drawing discussion and perhaps later a vote on the creation of a new Jakarta subproject based on the POI project (http://poi.sourceforge.net & http://sourcefoge.net/projects/poi). The POI project consists of an API for rea