VLC very well may work. But as far the the titles, are you going into the menus
with vo-more and looking under the titles?
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy
I don't really think your method is faster. You go to the dock, type m or ma
and mail is there; do enter or vo-space. I've never done this other method
myself but I suppose it's all about what one is used to; you always think what
you are used to doing is fastest.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried
I don't think you are particularly wrong; it is basically what one is used
to. after a while your fingers remember what you have done over and over and
an alternative, whether easier or harder, will seem harder for a while. One of
the strengths of the Mac is that there are usually several ways
I once bought an album from there and once a single song, both times using
safari on my Mac. I don't remember having a particular problem with it so I
can't really tell you anything special I did. The app was accessible for
playing my songs though you can also download the song to your computer
I was able to use an email address to report the problem with the app as I
recall but again, I don't now remember the process so it must not have seemed
difficult to me at the time.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in
You don't specify if you were trying to buy a song on an i-device or on a Mac
computer. Here's what I did on my Mac with Safari. I'm writing down the steps
as I do them.
I searched for the artist I wanted and then went to the link for the album and
then the individual song (there was a buy now
Is it possible you've either turned on mouse-keys or locked voiceover? If set
up in system preferences, mousekeys is toggled by pressing the option key (I
don't think it matters which one) five times. Voiceover is locked so control
and option keys are automatically on and you just use voiceover
I haven't been following this thread but I've done selective syncing and I
posted how I did it at one point. If I can find it, I'll repost.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart
Okay, here is what I posted about this a couple of months ago. I have been busy
and haven't been reading this thread so I apologize if this has already been
tried and no longer works. It isn't ideal but it is doable if it still works.
You have to do this blind, but then what else is new - grin!
.
From The Believer. . .
What if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 8/30/2014 5:17 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Yes, if you get voiceover at login this should include braille at login. Go
into System Preferences user accounts and interact with the table and go
down to login
displayed so I only need to type in password
after I choose my account. Is yours set up the same?
From The Believer. . .
What if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 8/30/2014 8:30 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Hmmm, as far as I know, that should do it. My braille edge comes up
It's true that I never bothered about checking and unchecking subdirectories;
I've basically kept everything on a single level so that I could quickly access
any directory without nesting. But yes, for those using a lot of
subdirectories, this could be a problem unless there's a way to uncheck
I guess that depends on your definition of accessible. I have been using it
successfully for a couple of years but it takes more work than using safari and
you may be better off to use the nightly builds; you just install them and you
don't have to actually build them yourself. I even installed
true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 8/30/2014 10:32 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Yes, those are my settings too. Are you using it as bluetooth or usb? I
usually use it with usb on my Macs because then I can switch back and forth
as I use it with bluetooth with my i-devices. I haven't tried
to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
I haven't tried it but I think
accessibility for the blind
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
It's true that I never bothered about checking and unchecking
subdirectories; I've basically kept everything on a single level so that I
I think it is much easier for me to use braille completely on my i-devices than
on my computers and I definitely don't like the way words that would be speech
or that could have symbols are written out.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained
By default it does not. I worked out a way to do this but haven't done it in a
while and don't know if it works now since we've been through some OS changes
since then. It's probably still in the archives but I won't post it again
unless/until I find it and test it to see if it still works.
--
As far as I know, the Apple Mail app does not in itself have any option to do
read receipts either individually or for all mail but I could be wrong. The one
I did could be turned on or off as I recall but it's been a long time.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got
I'm going to try this and see if it now will handle Spanish correctly. I've
been compiling and using Louis instead but it would be nice to use the package.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new
Tested and modified in MacOS 10.9 Mavericks: September 2 2014
This still works but you have to do all the steps before you can test it. Also
be aware that it is possible for the return receipt request to be seen before
the actual email, at least when testing it on myself. I've only tested it on
Actually, this is only partly correct. You can write whatever you want to write
in the email that is presented for you to fill in. You can also have different
return receipt protocols for different email addresses though i haven't tried
to do this. No, it may not be as good as a built-in system
Hmmm, on my computer running Mavericks, doing cmd-shift-delete doesn't seem to
send one message directly to the trash. Instead it brings up a dialog asking me
if I want to delete all items in trash and it says something about doing that
in all accounts. Maybe I'm missing something about how and
Even ifit's on your computer, you don't ever have to use it. I have several
voices that I never use. You are only going to hear the voices you pick.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart
What Ann says is exactly right. If you don't have extra new line characters in
what you are reading, the pauses between sentences should be no more than you
would hear in normal speech and shouldn't be annoying. But no matter how fast
you set the speed, the new line characters are going to
If you are talking about logging in, there is an autologin that can be enabled
though it would be considered a security risk. You would have to choose which
user gets the autologin though. You may have to enable this in Security before
you can change it in Users and Groups.
You also can have
I:m not even getting the video or the event. I am getting music on and off and
a very busy busy safari and when I can move I see twitter posts etc, Of course
i can listen to the keynote podcast later but I am not exactly happy either.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got
Okay, I closed safari and started over again and now I am able to listen. I did
not do anything different from before; just went to apple,com. If you are
having trouble try starting over. It: s a bit distracting because I can hear
one of the translators quite clearly in a background and it is
Apparently, it is already in your library waiting for you to download or that
was my understanding.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And
There really isn't any need to worry about the process before the new version
comes out, and there's no need to be terrified. You don't even have to upgrade
right away if you don't want to and there will be ample instructions and
discussion about this when Yosemite is released. While the
Yes, I did know about the change to eloquence and as I recall keith did too.
Can you be more specific about what doesn't work with voiceover? Does nothing
read at all or what happens?
Thanks.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
will be resolved @ a
later date.
Hope this answered your questions,
CJ
On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Yes, I did know about the change to eloquence and as I recall keith did too.
Can you be more specific about what doesn't work with voiceover? Does
No, they didn't charge.
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love
later, 4.2 I think, still no
joy. So, @ this point I remain sad but hopeful that the situation will be
resolved @ a later date.
Hope this answered your questions,
CJ
On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Yes, I did know about the change to eloquence
Yes, I would say that you installed the Windows version. The Mac version is in
the Mac app store. I am runing it and have successfully enjoyed Tech Talk two
weeks in a row now wwith Accessible World; haven't tried talking yet. The first
week I got dumped out of the room several times but this
by someone else to you and it will open in a
new window so you would have to command ` back to the room!
And if your kicked out of the room and have to re-enter any private chats
will be lost so would have to be restarted by the other person!
HTH Colin
On 17 Sep 2014, at 02:03, Cheryl Homiak cah4
software on the MAC, and remove it. Thanks.
On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Yes, I would say that you installed the Windows version. The Mac version is
in the Mac app store. I am runing it and have successfully enjoyed Tech Talk
two weeks in a row now wwith
Yes, people have been posting about audible issues.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore
A dialog comes up and you choose to put it. By default, I suppose it might be
in Documents or iCloud but I'm not sure. You could always go to save it again
and look at where the dialog has it being saved.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of
It isn't necessary to do anything to bluetooth, as I understand it, to do
handoff. They have to be signed in to the same iCloud account and they have to
be connected to the same wifi network but there is no bluetooth pairing
requirement. Beyond that, why they may sometimes work together and
I believe your home directory Library folder is hidden by default. Here's how
to make it visible. This started with Lion. In Mavericks there's a setting to
toggle this folder's visibility but in Mountain Lion it's a bit more
challenging. If you just need to access it once in a while, maybe the
Hi all.
I have bose ae2w bluetooth headphones; I am not sure if they are the latest
ones as I have had them for several months. While looking online I discovered
that there is an update for these headphones. Unfortunately when I downloaded
and opened this update I briefly saw something about
cmd-o when in iTunes does add to library by presenting you with a dialog to
locate the file. Cmd-o on a file actually is open which should also add it to
your library unless you have things set up to open audio files in a different
player. You probably already knew all this but just covering
There wouldn't be a dropbox menu under vo-shift-m.
If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the items,
there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do vo-down-arrow, and in
there you will find a share link as well as a share folder and a share that has
email,
No, it isn't just a visual window. It's an actual dialog that says it can't be
found and you have to do cancel or goto folder or hit escape; in other words
you have to do something to get out of the dialog. At least, that's how it is
on my iMac running up-to-date Mavericks. But unless the file
Yes, the same thing happens if you have a text message that you have to send to
activate an app. An example of this is the Verizon account verification for NFL
Mobile. I had trouble tapping the send button once voiceover was turned off, so
I actually double-tapped and held with one hand, turned
No, do not erase your Java j a v a folder. This has a letter W on the end that
you didn't notice. The folder of concern is J a v a W (I have written it with
space between letters so you can hear it better).
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of
I realy like MacTubes. Unfortunately there do seem to be a growing number of
undownloadable videos and I even went searching a few weeks ago to see if a new
version of MacTubes was out; as I recall there wasn't. But I haven't found
anything better and searching and accessing is incredibly easy.
No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting that this
soon. As for never wanting to own a 6+ and not being crazy about the 6, that's
opinion to which we are al entitled. I am enjoying my 6+, with iOS8 despite the
bugs, imensely and the reason many different phones are
-- and it did.
I have not upgraded my current phone to IOS 8 due to multiple bug warnings
from a number of blind people around here.
Sent from my IPhone 4S
On 8 Oct 2014, at 13:00, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting
into getting one for his birthday which is coming up in November, but
he says he's not ready yet.
Gigi
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 9, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
let me just say: yes, there are bugs. However, I am using my iPad and both
iPhones every day just
I noticed on my iPad this morning that I had to tap the button and refocus a
couple of times before the add to cart worked. You know that on Amazon
because a new page loads. But on the Mac I just do return or vo-space and I
have had no problem.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new
, but I learn to live every day with the bugs and workarounds if any
exist.
Sent from my laptop
On 09/10/2014 14:16, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
let me just say: yes, there are bugs. However, I am using my iPad and
both iPhones every day just as I have always use them. Do I have to do a
few little
I wonder if there are really defaults or if it depends on how you place your
fingers.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
Usually, if you immediately press the sticking button again, the tone will stop
and you should be able to continue. But it has to be the tone that initially
started the tone.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
I actually am having fun with both of my phones. One of them has come with iOS8
and one of them I upgraded. But I do sympathize with those experiencing
problems.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave
Well, actually, with my 2008 mac mini, which I can't upgrade past Lion, this is
still possible. It works fine with an adapter hanging out where a monitor would
be connected. But I think somewhere after that, it may have stopped being
possible to do that at least from what I hear. I also still
You are right: each to their own! My first couple of Macs and one I used for my
daughter for her music for years were minis and I loved them. I still have an
old ppc mini and a 2008 intel; the ppc one won't go beyond Leopard so I have it
running linux; the 2008 one won't go beyond Lion but I
That's because you are blind, just like I am! We are not the majority,
remember? Visual improvements and eye candy matter to a lot of people who can
see. What do you think some of them would say if there was a whole lot about
voiceover, other than the fact that some might find it interesting?
I don't frankly think the mever mind whether it works well or not is
justified though to each their own! Almost every iphone or ipad or computer of
any kind I've bought from Apple keeps on working faithfully and meets my needs
or I wouldn't continue to buy them. An anything I had that didn't
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:53:28 -0500
Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
That's
Interesting how one blind person says the iOS is garbage and Yosemite is close
to that too while another blind person is enjoying the new features and using
both while acknowledging some bugs and changes. What this tells me is that
while there are real accessibility issues, at least some of
Yes, this is what I found too. It's true you can't really do the sidebar with
sources like you used to but while that has been available, it hasn't been
the default for quite a while.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the
I didn't even do cmd-q. I just went to applications and copied and pasted it
elsewhere and went right back to the installer to continue.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
I wouldn't think that would be too old; it's working fine for me on my late
2012 iMac and my 11inch macbook air.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing
Did you make sure after connecting wifi on both devices that bluetooth is
turned on and that you are still signed into iCloud on both?
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His
I don't vo-space on it; I hit enter. Not sure if that matters or not.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to
to say that the quality wasn’t
spectacular though so I’ll probably only use it when really helpful. My phone
usually sounds terrific but my Mac sounds like an old cell phone, LOL.
On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
I don't vo-space on it; I hit enter
Hmmm, there must be another factor involved here. I am having no problem
quitting iTunes. Are you sure it didn't have any other processes running:
downloads, updating your library, etc. No dialogs. This probably doesn't make
sense because you would expect to get the same from the dock but it
I just keep typing until only the one I want is left. Doesn't this work for you?
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I
I just went into System Preferences Sound and checked the box so that there
will be a sound effect when the volume is being changed. It’s quite a different
sound then before, but I think I like it.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
I'm not sure about the mouse click but you can arrow up and down to choose
other addresses. Of course the recipients list is a permanent fix but I didn't
think that was what was being asked. Vo-shift-m also does still work for some
options but these are I think mostly editing options.
--
I don't agree with that. I did the public beta and I upgraded on my other
computer immediately when Yosemite came out. Yes, there are some bugs and some
changes so that you will have to be flexible enough to relearn some things. If
you don't want to do that, don't upgrade for a while. If you
Handoff is the biggest thing I like about Yosemite. There isn't really anything
I don't like at this point except that sometimes I am having a problem with
voiceover but haven't tracked down the specifics so won't post that at this
point. It seems to me to be early to adamantly declare I don't
I think you will have audio for volume change if you go to System Preferences
Sound and select the sound effects tab. Then go to the right and you will
eventually find the appropriate checkbox and it is unchecked by default.
Probably you did the same thing I did at first and looked for this in
faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
Hi!
By the way.
Have you had time to test brltty on the new yosemite?
/A
19 okt 2014 kl. 20:06 skrev Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com:
Handoff is the biggest thing I like
wrote:
The only complaint I have with Yosemite is that I am having issues
connecting my iPhone to my Mac via Bluetooth so I can answer calls with my
Mac!
Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Yes, I have it working. Had
Isn’t that the domain of speakable items or has that changed or been
eliminated? As far as I know, issuing commands to your computer hasn’t been a
part of dictation but maybe I missed out on this.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
While I would always support people freely expressing their opinions, I see
some problems with the content of this letter. Because you have submitted this
to this email list, while I will never write anything insulting or derogatory
of anybody here, I do think it is appropriate to express my
Apparently all you know is that vo isn't talking. Have you been able to get
sighted help to figure out what is wrong. Yes, I too don't have a lot of
sighted help and hate being told that, but sometimes there's no other recourse
when you run out of ideas. Usually it's kind of hard to know who to
Okay, let me ask you a couple more questions.
Did you enable file vault or is there any possibility of that?
What keyboard are you using? It might be that your keyboard and the Mac aren't
working together, especially if it's bluetooth. If you are using a bluetooth
keyboard, can you try a
faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
I've never enabled file vault. Also, I'm on a USb keyboard
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Okay, let me ask you a couple
iPad
On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Okay, if recovery mode works I would think we can say your hard drive hasn't
gone dead because it would be a different partition on the same drive. Can I
assume you waited a good long time after putting in your
I don't recall people saying that complaining to Apple would ruin
accessibility. It is how you complain and your perspective that are being
debated as far as I know.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God
I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking
clock, a bit dented from being dropped and I lost the cover to the battery
compartment but still works! Isn't that just hysterically funny? Not the point
I know but it gives me a great laugh!
--
Cheryl
I tried and
iPad
On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Okay, if recovery mode works I would think we can say your hard drive
hasn't gone dead because it would be a different partition on the same
drive. Can I assume you waited a good long time
, and worked fine under the recovery
partition.
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
Okay, if recovery mode works I would think we can say your hard drive
hasn't gone dead because it would be a different
Thanks for the confirmation that the order has changed. I noticed that but yes,
it still works just as well for me as it did in Mavericks. And it did work for
me in Mavericks :-) I use this app constantly throughout my day as I am sure
many of you do.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn
You know, I was thinking about that and realized that, in the interests of not
berating a sighted world for this, another corollary should be added. While
most of us can't see or have some limits on our vision, it is indeed an
extremely visual world and universe. Not that it isn't a world and
For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If you
get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is always
20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password wasn'taccepted,
if that is what happened, one of the choices would have been
.
Gigi
On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If
you get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is
always 20/20 but if you had rebooted your
I would be really surprised if the differences in what people are finding in
their spotlight searches is a function of the model of computer they have,
though I suppose it's possible.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the
Why are you trying to connect your Mac and iPhone by bluetooth? If you think
this is necessary in order to do phone calls on your Mac via your iPhone, it
isn't a step you need to do. But perhaps you have a different reason for
wanting to do this.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a
I don't know what would be more reliable and faster about using Google Chrome
for Audible instead of safari, but to each his/her own! You can even tab to the
download button once you find the book or if you know it's the top one just do
a vo-f to find download or use the rotor. Lots of options!
There are several things you need to think about and check here. Did you try
changing file page setup. There's a specific landscape/portrait setting there
which is by default on portrait. Also, right in the print window when you use
cmd-p or do file Print there's a place to choose between
I use it with dom order and without grouping and i don't have this problem or
at least I didn't last time I downloaded from Audible. When something stops
working for you it might be that something has changed on the website but it's
always a good idea to check your safari settings to see if
This is what I usually do too. And this morning when I opened something in
Preview and it said static text I could still select all and copy it into
text edit.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me
I just wanted to mention that the work-around for opening pdfs in Preview and
getting them to read - selecting the file in finder, turning off voiceover,
opening the file, turning vo back on, interacting twice with the content - does
work. However, I also want to note that the same problem
When you get an email message, press enter on it in the index. Interact where
it says embedded and arrow right and you will find four unlabeled buttons. They
are between where it says message headers and where it says text; they have no
help tags. I haven’t been paying attention either because
considering the style of navigation
within Mail that I’m accustomed to. Thanks for the info Cheryl.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 24, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com
mailto:cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
When you get an email message, press enter
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