[cia-drugs] Singapore: deal die.
Coming drug split: After forming huge economic alliances, (Africa may become United States of Africa), the tendency will for smaller geographic areas worldwide to be controlled on their own. States will have the power of former countries, counties will have the power of former states, and towns will have the former power of counties. In many areas the tendency is for drugs to become more legalized. This tendency will grow. There is also the opposite tendency, for some small areas to shun drugs completely. This will become very dependant on a number of factors. Singapore today is a prime example: There are zero teenage drug deaths in Singapore. There are about zero drugs. Why? I just saw the stamps on a flight ticket this morning. If you are caught with drugs in Singapore you die. Period. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore Both full legalization and full-complete illegalization work. Nothing in between. Singapore is almost like an old Greek city-state. It is one of the most international places. International shipping is #1. For this to work they need complete safety. Shipping #1 also explains why drugs-no prostitution-yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Singapore Exceptions prove rule. General mass tendency will be for greater legalization. And as smaller areas get more power answers to all are easy. Move next door. m.
Re: [cia-drugs] CIA: BEYOND REDEMPTION AND SHOULD BE TERMINATED
http://presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=136194sectionid=351020602 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-10752767 Re: webs above: Iran's was featured. What would members of this list suggest the CIA be replaced with? And how would you propose to fund it without illegal drug money? I am being serious, not funny. (I apologize for times I was a bit snide.) Personally I am glad/proud that I ended the us vs. them game. With glee Putin replays the inner aspects of the 'Pollard spy / Israeli' pointer. Betrayed by who and why?? I am looking for direction. What is a way forward that will keep real security? Why do we continue to play the ain't it awful game? This should start with understanding exactly why the 118 (correct, up from 108) nations of the reformed Non-allied Nations support Iran. Forward. Michael
Re: [cia-drugs] Drug users must be decriminalized along with scale-up of combination treatment and changes to drug control
Article in Bangor Daily News: (Bangor, Maine). They are legalizing pot for medical reasons, you must have a script. First discussions were about who could dispense. Now discussion is of price per ounce. Dispensers now say they must sell at high price, about $400 bucks an ounce. Their reasoning: buyers might resell. Real reason: They are playing both sides of street, legal and illegal, and want the bucks. My answer: When dispensers open hit them with an anti-trust suit. m Drug users must be decriminalized along with scale-up of combination treatment and changes to drug control http://www.physorg.com/news198828531.html July 20, 2010 In a paper in The Lancet Series on HIV in people who use drugs, a call to action is made by experts who say that while scale-up of various interventions outlined in earlier papers are vital, these are not enough. Drug users should be decriminalised, along with other changes in policy on drug control and law enforcement. The paper is by Professor Chris Beyrer, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Baltimore, MD, USA, and colleagues. The authors highlight that it is possible to control HIV epidemics in people who use drugs with currently available strategies, such as opioid substitution (OST), needle and syringe programmes (NSP), and antiretroviral treatment (ART). The evidence backs a massive scale-up of all three in combination. Now is the time, say the authors, for countries to realise that national harm-reduction policies, programmes and services are desperately needed; failure to act or continuing with inadequate pilot programmes will not prevent the HIV epidemic in drug users advancing. The authors say: The dangers of inaction in meeting the needs of people who use drugs include continuing spread of HIV infection in new populations and regions, increased complexity of HIV-1 epidemics at molecular levels, decreased access to opioids for pain management and palliative care, and the human, family, health, and social costs of mass incarceration and detention. They add: Expanded action and advocacy by health professionals on behalf of people who use drugs are urgently needed in both health-care and criminal justice sectors. Health professionals should not be complicit in programmes and policies that have no evidence base or that violate human rights. The voice of people who use drugs themselves needs to be heard at all levels, from service delivery to policy decision making. Highlighting that reform of justice systems is a large part of harm reduction, the authors call for decriminalisation of drug users, along with legal services and access to health services for people who use drugs in all forms of prison and detention. They say: If drug control sectors and law enforcement are not a part of new approaches, then harm-reduction programmes will be closed, substitution clinics will stay sparsely attended, and ART and preventive interventions will have a low uptake by drug users. They conclude: Only around 10% of people who use drugs worldwide are being reached [by current treatment programmes], and far too many are imprisoned for minor offences or detained without trial. To change this situation will take commitment, advocacy, and political courage to advance the action agenda. Failure to do so will exacerbate the spread of HIV infection, undermine treatment programmes, and continue to expand prison populations with patients in need of care.
[cia-drugs] gulf in Gulf
Swedish firm Stena AB out of Gothemburg just steamed a giant rig, (Stena Forth, under own power), all the way from the Gulf of Mexico to midcoast Maine, (Rockland), for quick repair. http://www.maineville.com/detail/145968.html Six giant thrusters will be replaced. This means they will be lowered to the harbor floor, 120 feet down, and as ship moved they are then pulled up by barge. Then procedure reversed. Quite a project. Many rigs are operated by Sweden who also monkey-flag the vessels and are subcontracted by oil firms. The one that blew in the Gulf of Mexico was monkey-flagged from Marshall Islands. Though Marshall Islands are US territory the US in not responsible for inspection. The Marshall Islands were responsible and they could not possibly perform that function. And this why chosen. Hush-hush, blush-blush. This is never mentioned as all the mud is thrown at BP. The problem is international and can only be solved in that manner. Ships offered by Europe to help clean up were illegal because of the US Jones Act. And on and on. Law of Seas only since 82 and very, extremely, weak. Stuff I am mentioning here is not being talked about in the open.
Re: [cia-drugs] Dissociative Identity Disorder From the Child Abuse Wiki
From below at end: (quote) ...One review of the literature found physiologic and ocular differences across alter personalities. ... (unquote) Often one personality needs glasses and another can see fine. Same eyes. No explanation. We don't know what this is. Often some personalities do not know of others. But at times they all come together and produce what is called in the military a 'Clear eyes'. Truth is... we don't know too much at all. Michael Dissociative Identity Disorder From the Child Abuse Wiki _http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=Dissociative_Identity_Disorder_ (http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=Dissociative_Identity_Disorder) copied with permission Dissociative identity disorder (formerly called Multiple Personality Disorder or MPD) is defined in the DSM-IV-TR as the presence of two or more personality states or distinct identities that repeatedly take control of oneâs behavior. The patient has an inability to recall personal information. The extent of this lack of recall is too great to be explained by normal forgetfulness. The disorder cannot be due to the direct physical effects of a general medical condition or substance.[1] DID entails a failure to integrate certain aspects of memory, consciousness and identity. Patients experience frequent gaps in their memory for their personal history, past and present. Patients with DID report having severe physical and sexual abuse, especially during childhood. The reports of patients with DID are often validated by objective evidence.[1] Physical evidence may include variations in physiological functions in different identity states, including differences in vision, levels of pain tolerance, symptoms of asthma, the response of blood glucose to insulin and sensitivity to allergens. Other physical findings may include scars from physical abuse or self-inflicted injuries, headaches or migraines, asthma and irritable bowel syndrome.[1] DID is found in a variety of cultures around the world. It is diagnosed three to nine times more often in adult females than males. Females average 15 or more identities, males eight identities. The sharp rise in the reported cases of DID in the U.S. may be due the greater awareness of DIDâs diagnosis, which has caused an increased identification of those that were previously undiagnosed.[1] The average time period from DIDâs first presentation of symptoms to its diagnosis is six to seven years. DID may become less manifest as patients reach past their late 40âs, but it can reemerge during stress, trauma or substance abuse. It is suggested in several studies that DID is more likely to occur with first-degree biological relatives of people that already have DID, than in the regular population.[1] Symptomatology Individuals diagnosed with DID demonstrate a variety of symptoms with wide fluctuations across time; functioning can vary from severe impairment in daily functioning to normal or high abilities.[2] Patients may experience an extremely broad array of other symptoms that resemble epilepsy, schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, mood disorders, post traumatic stress disorder, personality disorders, and eating disorders.[2] Causes The causes of dissociative identity disorder are theoretically linked with the interaction of overwhelming stress, traumatic antecedents,[3] insufficient childhood nurturing, and an innate ability to dissociate memories or experiences from consciousness.[2] Prolonged child abuse is frequently a factor, with a very high percentage of patients reporting documented abuse[4] often confirmed by objective evidence.[1] The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders states that patients with DID often report having a history of severe physical and sexual abuse. The reports of patients suffering from DID are often confirmed by objective evidence, and the DSM notes that the abusers in those situations may be inclined to deny or distortâ these acts.[1] Research has consistently shown that DID is characterized by reports of extensive childhood trauma, usually child abuse.[5][6][7] Dissociation is recognized as a symptomatic presentation in response to psychological trauma, extreme emotional stress, and in association with emotional dysregulation and borderline personality disorder.[8] A study of 12 murderers established the connection between early severe abuse and DID[9]. DSM inclusion DID meets all of the guidelines for inclusion in the DSM and is supported by taxometric research.[10] Research has established DID as a valid diagnosis.[10] In one study, DID was found to be a genuine disorder with a constant set of core features.[11] History The 19th century saw a number of reported cases of multiple personalities which Rieber estimated would be close to 100.[12] By the late 19th century there was a general
Re: [cia-drugs] BREAKING NEWS: Ship MV RACHEL CORRIE delivering humanitarian aid requests safe passage to Gaza
Much was gained by renaming the President Warfield the MV Exodus in 1947 http://www.presidentwarfield.com/date-14-42.html The name 'MV Rachel Corrie' is not bad. But can always be renamed the MV Moses. Let my Gaza people be. m BREAKING NEWS: Ship MV RACHEL CORRIE delivering humanitarian aid requests safe passage to Gazahttp://exopolitics.blogs.com/breaking_news/2010/06/breaking-news-.html [image: Rachel Corrie]http://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef013482ab9a46970c-pi BREAKING NEWS *Photo: Matthias Chang and volunteers on MV RACHEL CORRIE* Ship MV RACHEL CORRIE delivering humanitarian aid requests safe passage to Gaza The ship MV Rachel Corrie is delivering hospital supplies to the hospital in Gaza that that not had supplies for 3 years since the blockade on Gaza began. The MV Rachel Corrie has well-meaning UN diplomats on board like Dennis Halliday, UN Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Halliday After the MV Rachel Corrie left Ireland, its engines died as it went through the Straits of Gilbraltar, and it was left behind by the flotilla. Apparently now the MV Rachel Corrie is determined to continue with its humanitarian mission of delivering the hospital supplies for the hospital in Gaza. I just found out that this morning through an email from my friend Mathias Chang that a number of my friends like Dennis Halliday and Matthias Chang are on board the MV Rachel Corrie and are determined to deliver the hospital supplies to Gaza. Dennis and Matthias and I are friends, because I am a Judge on the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, and Mattthias is the Chief Prosecutor of the Tribunal, which has indicted George W. Bush and Tony Blair for war crimes in Iraq. They have asked people to get the word out to Israel that their intentions are peaceful. As an international Judge, I am now in communication with the office of the Prime Minister of Israel, and of Ambassador Gabriela Shalev, the Israeli Ambassador to the UN We are trying to avoid another incident on the high seas here with good faith negotiations. On behalf of the MV Rachel Corrie, we have asked the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Israel and Israel's UN Ambassador to give safe passage to the MV Rachel Corrie to deliver its humanitarian cargo to Gaza. Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd EMAIL MESSAGE FROM MV RACHEL CORRIE -- Forwarded message -- From: matth...@skzcchambers.com matth...@skzcchambers.com Date: Jun 1, 2010 8:38 AM Subject: URGENT - WE NEED YOUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION - MESSAGE FROM MV RACHEL CORRIE To: undisclosed-recipients URGENT - WE NEED YOUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION MESSAGE FROM MV RACHEL CORRIE RACHEL CORRIE: MV Rachel Corrie is now the sole ship on the international freedom flotilla moving towards Gaza. The Malaysian and Irish peace and humanitarian activists aboard share their deepest grief and sense of lost with the loved ones of those killed and injured in the illegal action undertaken by Israel on Monday 31st May 2010 in the international waters of the Mediterranean. In the names of our friends, we are more determined than ever to continue into Gaza with our humanitarian cargo and our support for the blockaded and suffering people of Gaza. We expect Israel to respond to the international condemnation of its violence by not impeding by any means the safe passage of the Rachel Corrie. We appeal to the international community and United Nations to continue to demand Israel our safe passage into Gaza. Jointly issued by Malaysians and Irish on board the Rachel Corrie. -- - Sent on behalf of the humanitarian activists on board the Rachel Corrie - by PGPO land team (Ram Karthigasu and Christopher Chang) *CONTACT: * Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd 3339 West 41 Avenue Vancouver, B.C. V6N3E5 CANADA TEL/FAX: 604-733-8134 Email: pe...@peaceinspace.org iner
[cia-drugs] Rare Blair Snare
Mr. Clark Hoyt (public editor) pub...@nytimes.com Dear Mr. Hoyt, Re: todays New York Times editorial regarding the sinking of the North Korean corvette Cheonan and the death of 46 sailors. Many note the timing of the resignation of Admiral Dennis C. Blair and the twisted-off editorial blaming only North Korea for the obvious act of war. Many are remembering that it was Admiral Blair while head of Pacific Command in a speech in Monterey who said not to worry about war breaking out between North and South Korea. Admiral Blair noted being in a light plane where you could see both sides of the peninsula and noted both sides would suffer too much if anything really broke out. Admiral Blair: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10134992.stm Times Cheonan editorial: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/opinion/21fri2.html?ref=todayspaper Many note how near the Demarcation Line when you go from the Yellow Sea toward the Bo Hai. Many note that absent from both your reporting and the editorial is that not only would subs firing the missile be unnecessary but noting the waters would also be unlikely. Many note that the likelier scenario would be setting the torpedo as a mine with an exploding sensor of the signature of that particular ship. And note how easy for anyone to do so noting the closeness of well-traveled sea-lanes. Many note that absence as glaring. Many note the Times aim in the editorial is to get the public to continue to support the misuse of the UN Security Council. Many note that 118 nations are supporting Iran in that area. The many noted above are not the average New York Times reader. But the many above are more knowledgeable. The lesser many above will in time trump your more numerous average reader. Sincerely, Michael Donovan
[cia-drugs] BP pp
dis da pi** Maritime Professional weekly update Networking, News Opinion LATEST BLOGS Too Big to Fail? The scope of the U.S. Gulf oil spill continues to expand, testing the limits of public and private response capabilities. We can't afford to fail. Can BP afford to pay? Magic Pipe Murkiness Surfaces Again Time to stop loading the dice against masters Indian shipping tonnage at record level Recent vessel acquisition spree by Indian ship owners has helped to bolster the national shipping tonnage. Propulsion Shaft Failures The University of Gdansk, Poland published a paper quoting ABS figures for propulsion shaft failures and Offshore Supply Vessels and tugs amounted to 66 percent of the total failures in the report. Suez Canal The vital waterway between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea First Free Trade Warehouse Zone likely by SKIL Free Trade Warehousing zones are the latest creation of the container trade of Jawaharlal Nehru Port
Re: [cia-drugs] Rush Is Right about a BP Horizon Terror Attack
If or not rig blown. Many swat teams called out. Depleted all swat teams as so many rigs. Indicates some at top thought it might have been blown. If so who ? Fairly sophisticated so environmentalists would not be high on list. So still a question. Implication if blown : In any case , even if just a question : Shows how fragile all is. We cant afford wars. Peace is ugly.  Rush Is Right about a BP Horizon Terror Attack  By Captain Eric H. May Intelligence Editor The Lone Star Iconoclast  Rush to Judgment?  HOUSTON, May 3, 2010 -- Rush Limbaugh, the superstar of right-wing talk radio, has always been quick to savage conspiracy theories. On Thursday though he revealed his own, which is that the BP Horizon explosion was caused by environmentalists, and that federal SWAT teams fanning out across the Gulf of Mexico are part of a national defense response.  What better way to head off more oil drilling, nuclear plants, than by blowing up a rig? he rhetorically asked. I'm just, I'm just noting the timing here.  Rush Limbaugh blames âenvironmentalist wackosâ for massive oil spill, The Raw Story, 4/29/2010, http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0429/rush-limbaugh-hints-oil-rig-explosion-environmental-terrorism/  We shouldnât dismiss âRushboâ as a conspiracy theorist, even though the master of talk radio has learned to hurl that pejorative at callers who suggest unpopular explanations that he would rather not hear or broadcast. No, we should recognize that Rush understands political and criminal reality well enough to recognize what I learned in four years with Houston-area police: conspiracy is one of the most common crimes on the books.  I began to listen to Rush in 1990, the same year I was a Desert Storm volunteer. I often disagreed with his geo-political positions, but appreciated his on-air (and self-proclaim) excellence in broadcasting.â I shared his contempt for the mainstream media, even after I began publishing regularly op-eds in mainstream publications like the Wall Street Journal, the Houston Chronicle, and the Houston Post. I continued to laugh at his satire and oratory, enjoying his brawling bombast even when he put his foot in his mouth. I generally accepted his pro-football analysis, and was disappointed when he flubbed up and lost his position as a Monday Night Football commentator.  Bush's military misadventures brought us to a parting of the ways. Writing military analysis for the Houston Chronicle, I published pieces forecasting a long, unwinnable âquicksand warâ in Iraq. Rush, one of many pro-war hawks with no military experience, predicted the same cake walk that the Bush administration did. I had the strong impression that Rush was waking up to the Bush League errors of the cheerleader in chief in the summer of 2003, but within weeks of his first remarks against George W., he was arrested in Governor Jeb Bushâs Florida on narcotics charges.  An Anti-Lambaugh Conspiracy?  It was my own conspiracy theory that the Bush boys were working in tandem to make sure that Limbaugh parroted the official line -- or else. The same view was pretty common among my Texas journalism buddies, who, like me, were personally familiar with the likes of George W., Jeb, George H.W., Joe Albaugh and Karen Hughes. They were capable of any kind of dirty trick or payback.  Like most regular Rush listeners I was convinced when he used to accuse the Clintons of sexual misconduct, Whitewater crimes and even assassinations, most notably White House lawyer Vince Foster. Unlike most âditto headsâ though, I could see the same truths of corruption and killing when the shoe was on the right foot. For those who blame Rush for not criticizing Bush, let them consider that a month after Rush was under virtually arrest, pending Bush League prosecution, George W.âs biggest political danger died mysteriously in Houston, and was as covered up by the mainstream media as Vince Foster had been a decade before:    Dead Woman Who Accused Bush of Rape Pravda, 11/12/2003, http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/368/11257_scandal.html  It was high irony for this Cold War, Russian-speaking military intelligence officer that I had to read the story of her death in Pravda. Sometimes a good scout has to look behind enemy lines to assess the real situation. To this day I continue to read such sources as Pravda, Haaretz, Al Jazeera and Press TV. Anyone with a background in investigation learns to scan and process as many diverse sources as possible, and to shun the public relations and propaganda that combine to spoil the American monopoly mainstream media.  Conflicting Conspiracies  Two extremely divergent publications below illustrate the value of variety:  The first is an Israeli newspaper noted for its connections with the ruthless and resourceful Mossad intelligence agency. In a
[cia-drugs] Illicit drug mud
We use illicit drugs to pay for world nuclear security. Power corrupted. It is falling apart. Now something hit the Internet that has many going, Oh, s**t. It is accurate. It blows apart so many areas of 'defense'. It is hard to argue with. If one would start to, as many do, argue against Aegis, some would counter. You cannot counter this. Nothing is said. Quotes because it came from someplace. Does not matter where. (Quote: from someplace knowledgeable) The Problem With Proliferation: Cruise Missile Edition: March 2011. The still of the pre-dawn darkness is only slightly disturbed by the passage of a container ship. Like the many thousands of others like her plying the oceans ways, this ones cargo is neatly stacked on the deck ISO shipping containers in a multitude of colors and shippers markings. As the fog bank thickens, a radar scope is closely scrutinized on the bridge. Out here, off the shipping lanes no other merchant traffic is expected and, it would appear, neither were there any signs of fishing craft or more troubling, naval or coast guard ships. Earlier in the night a code had been passed via an internet podcast and confirmed via a secure webpage. Soon, very soon, part of the ships cargo would complete the long journey begun in Sverdlovsk. Up forward, locks are removed on two of the containers and a pair of shadowy figures enter each container. A series of muffled noises from the interior of the boxes is rapidly followed by their tops falling to one side and a brace of four tubes quickly rise to the vertical. A minute or two passes and the quiet is shattered by a series of explosions. From each tube a long, slender figure emerges atop a cloud of gases. Bright flames suddenly appear and the forms race off to the far horizon, away from the sun, still hours away from rising. NAVSTA Norfolk has been home to US naval aviation ever since Eugene Ely first flew his fragile, kite-like aircraft off a makeshift platform mounted on the anchored USS Birmingham. From her roadsted, flattops of the Essex, Midway, Forrestal, Enterprise and now the Nimitz class sortied to distant spots on the globe to carry out the missions assigned presence, deterrence, and when necessary, the fury unleashed from their decks and the holds of their escorts reinforced the determination of a free people to remain free. On this early morning, Pier 12 is brightly lit in floodlights as the two Nimitz-class carriers, USS Harry S Truman (CVN 75) and USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 72) complete preparations for an emergency sortie on the tide. Both had pulled into Norfolk one day prior with their full airwing complement on board to take on one final round of provisions and the remainder of their embarked airwing personnel and equipment. Tensions have dramatically risen in the Gulf over the past few weeks following Irans declaration of nuclear capability. There had been no detonation, and some were saying it was just a boast that the Iranians were still years away from really having the capability for even a couple of weapons. Still, Israel had attempted a long-range strike only to recall it when the US threatened to expose the mission. A show of force was in order and to reinforce the two carrier presence in the Gulf (Eisenhower and Washington were already there) the Vinson was being turned back from a Hong Kong port visit and TR with Truman would join her outside the Straits of Hormuz. After launch, the boosters on the eight 3M54TE1 missiles quickly burnout, fall off and quieter turbojets take over. Guided by GPS coordinates they sped along at little over 50 ft above the oceans surface, their terminal homing radar units quiet for now. Back on the container ship, a new course is plotted, away from the launch scene. As the ship steadies up on an easterly heading, a series of explosions rip through her keel and below the waterline. The ship breaks in two, the stern section quickly sliding beneath the waves. As containers break free and plunge into the sea, the bow slowly rolls over and begins a long slow descent to the bottom. An oil slick, some debris and a few containers supported by trapped pockets of air are all that is left. There are no life boats. Farther to the west, in the operations center of NORTHCOM/NORAD a watch officer notes a disturbance and places a report. Watch supe, DSP1. I have a multiple IR event, western Atlantic off the North Carolina coast. Position 36-21 north by 74-24 west. OK initial analysis? It looks like a possible series of explosions, but there isnt anything else whatever it was happened fast. Roger initiating conference call Reaching for the intercom panel, punches up a series of buttons. All stations, NMCC, this is NORTHCOM watch with a multiple IR event report. At 0807Z DSP1 reported a multiple IR event position 36-21 north and 074-24 west request by station report STRATCOM with negative space or missile event FAA no air traffic that area Fleet Forces with a
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: 10 Shot 4 Dead in DC Tonight
\ \ 4h9LRvVqtkO8Iys http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/foreclosure-experts-forecast-exp\ \ losive-numbers-in-homelessness-89532782.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/science/earth/31energy.html?emc=na --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, michael1@ wrote: A few days ago there was quite a bit of shooting on Howard Don't know who wrote paragraph below but the phrase ...no show... got me thinking he might really know what he is talking about. as: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/TheFall5.htm I've ...slowed my roll Michael Road, where another good samaritan like me received a shot over the bow and I was called out by name and several men came down and I casually looked them in the eye and went about my business, slowly. I was getting attention because I gave a ride to somebody they regarded as a rat for calling cops on them because they were using the interior stairs for seating for a social club, no problem, but were verbally intimidating and scared a resident into having police ban them from the stairs. They shoot in the air after cop cars pass with their lights flashing, many times. I waited on another corner for a person to show up, and an undercover (I did not know so) asked if I wanted him to unlock the building front door but I declined the offer. A rented van asked a woman on the corner who I was, which did not make sense right away, but then after a no-show I decided to leave and then pretty soon the police jumped out all over with guns drawn and stayed into the next day when a horse-mounted cop joined in. Not sure what that was really about, and police so far do not say they know of a motive for tonight's driveby.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: 10 Shot 4 Dead in DC Tonight
I am now assuming that you are not actively driving a cab in DC. Correct? I wrote my 'The Fall of Norfolk' piece after I was out of area. Kept my mouth shut there on most things. But we had codes for shootings over radio, Happy human activity on 29th Bay. Meaning best to stay away from there. There is massive change at top. Internet is taking its toll. Few in alternate media even see this. And yes, inside military taking control. General McCrystal now has the power that generals would have, not Joint Forces Command confusion. Alternate media sees much of the Israel vs US snippy match more just for show not looking at why. The 'why' is Internet. Thank you for keeping me up. You were doing something else. m I was supposed to wait ten minutes but after two hours I left. It all depends whether I would leave or not. The person did show up after that, and then two or three van loads of undercovers jumped out and next day, a horse-mounted cop. The current story about Fellowship and Friends low rent for rightwing congressmen(doesn't sound low to me!) is C St SW too but on the other side of the Anacostia River in Capitol Hill. After reading your piece about the third time, here's related news. Something about Denmark and Russia meeting in a curiously limited group, probably Canada, maybe Iceland. Then Gates limits retired generals pay and conflicts of interest when consulted. Army ranked over other services in new/reverted chain of command at Pentagon. Plus a few other things like Israel embarrassing US with Gaza attacks and Obama turning on the implacability with Iran like Bush with Saddam. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticlecode=20100401\ articleId=18435 http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2010-04-01-mentors_N.htm http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2010/03/30/media-mutes-generals-afghan-a\ dmission http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/03/eye_opener_pentagon\ _changes_li.html http://wsws.org/articles/2010/apr2010/bara-a03.shtml http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=122339sectionid=351020101 http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2c=jd4ZvEzxajD4p9dUu\ D5vKRvVqtkO8Iys http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2c=3wOW8jKfM2o8sjGK6\ 4D87xvVqtkO8Iys http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2c=oypImcpdoRs45yJJ5\ 4h9LRvVqtkO8Iys http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/foreclosure-experts-forecast-exp\ losive-numbers-in-homelessness-89532782.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/science/earth/31energy.html?emc=na --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: A few days ago there was quite a bit of shooting on Howard Don't know who wrote paragraph below but the phrase ...no show... got me thinking he might really know what he is talking about. as: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/TheFall5.htm I've ...slowed my roll Michael Road, where another good samaritan like me received a shot over the bow and I was called out by name and several men came down and I casually looked them in the eye and went about my business, slowly. I was getting attention because I gave a ride to somebody they regarded as a rat for calling cops on them because they were using the interior stairs for seating for a social club, no problem, but were verbally intimidating and scared a resident into having police ban them from the stairs. They shoot in the air after cop cars pass with their lights flashing, many times. I waited on another corner for a person to show up, and an undercover (I did not know so) asked if I wanted him to unlock the building front door but I declined the offer. A rented van asked a woman on the corner who I was, which did not make sense right away, but then after a no-show I decided to leave and then pretty soon the police jumped out all over with guns drawn and stayed into the next day when a horse-mounted cop joined in. Not sure what that was really about, and police so far do not say they know of a motive for tonight's driveby.
Re: [cia-drugs] 10 Shot 3 Dead in DC Tonight
A few days ago there was quite a bit of shooting on Howard Don't know who wrote paragraph below but the phrase ...no show... got me thinking he might really know what he is talking about. as: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/TheFall5.htm I've ...slowed my roll Michael Road, where another good samaritan like me received a shot over the bow and I was called out by name and several men came down and I casually looked them in the eye and went about my business, slowly. I was getting attention because I gave a ride to somebody they regarded as a rat for calling cops on them because they were using the interior stairs for seating for a social club, no problem, but were verbally intimidating and scared a resident into having police ban them from the stairs. They shoot in the air after cop cars pass with their lights flashing, many times. I waited on another corner for a person to show up, and an undercover (I did not know so) asked if I wanted him to unlock the building front door but I declined the offer. A rented van asked a woman on the corner who I was, which did not make sense right away, but then after a no-show I decided to leave and then pretty soon the police jumped out all over with guns drawn and stayed into the next day when a horse-mounted cop joined in. Not sure what that was really about, and police so far do not say they know of a motive for tonight's driveby.
Re: [cia-drugs] Vatican denies abuse liability, Pope implicated, bishop accused beating orphans
From Yahoo link below: (quote) ...VATICAN CITY Dragged deeper than ever into the clerical sex abuse scandal, the Vatican is launching a legal defense that it hopes will shield the pope from a lawsuit in Kentucky seeking to have him answer attorneys' questions under oath. Court documents obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press show that Vatican lawyers plan to argue that the pope has immunity as head of state, that American bishops who oversaw abusive priests weren't employees of the Vatican, and that a 1962 document is not the smoking gun that provides proof of a cover-up (unquote) Were the priest 'agents of a state'? If diplomatic immunity affirmed by the Kentucky court then it ups the anti into higher international. court keeping Pope as head of state. Still responsible. Non absolved if you do-don't. m _http://eassurvey.wordpress.com/2010/03/_ (http://eassurvey.wordpress.com/2010/03/) Law firm implicates Vatican, Pope in abuse case By CHRISTINE ARMARIO AP March 31, 2010 MIAMI - A South Florida law firm is implicating the Vatican and Pope Benedict XVI in its handling of a priest accused of sexually abusing children. Jessica Arbour, an attorney representing one of the alleged victims, says documents show the Vatican was aware of Rev. Ernesto Garcia-Rubio's misconduct as early as 1968. Thirteen years later, Benedict became head of the Vatican office that received a petition from Garcia-Rubio seeking to leave the priesthood. Arbour says the paperwork was lost. Arbour says they do not have any evidence indicating children were abused during that time. A lawsuit has been filed against the Archdiocese of Miami, claiming it was negligent in its supervision and assignment of the reverend. Arbour says it may be amended to include the Vatican. _http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR201003310 0931.html_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR2010033100931.html) Vatican offers 3 reasons it's not liable for abuse By NICOLE WINFIELD, AP Mar 30, 2010 VATICAN CITY â Dragged deeper than ever into the clerical sex abuse scandal, the Vatican is launching a legal defense that it hopes will shield the pope from a lawsuit in Kentucky seeking to have him answer attorneys' questions under oath. Court documents obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press show that Vatican lawyers plan to argue that the pope has immunity as head of state, that American bishops who oversaw abusive priests weren't employees of the Vatican, and that a 1962 document is not the smoking gun that provides proof of a cover-up. The Holy See is trying to fend off the first U.S. case to reach the stage of determining whether victims actually have a claim against the Vatican itself for negligence for allegedly failing to alert police or the public about Roman Catholic priests who molested children. The case was filed in 2004 in Kentucky by three men who claim they were abused by priests and claim negligence by the Vatican. Their attorney, William McMurry, is seeking class-action status for the case, saying there are thousands of victims across the country. This case is the only case that has been ever been filed against the Vatican which has as its sole objective to hold the Vatican accountable for all the priest sex abuse ever committed in this country, he said in a phone interview. There is no other defendant. There's no bishop, no priest. The Vatican is seeking to dismiss the suit before Benedict XVI can be questioned or documents subpoenaed. _http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100331/ap_on_re_eu/eu_the_vatican_s_defense_16_ (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100331/ap_on_re_eu/eu_the_vatican_s_defense_16) describes abuse German bishop accused of beating orphaned girls April 1, 2010 One of the Pope's closest conservative allies in Germany, Bishop Walter Mixa, has been accused of brutally beating and flogging children in his care. The Bishop of Augsburg, 68, denies the claims by five former pupils at a Catholic-run orphanage and care facility. But they will be a source of deep embarrassment and concern in the Vatican: Bishop Mixa is part of a conservative axis in Pope Benedict XVI's native Bavaria that has always backed the pontiff in his most controversial decisions, from criticising the violence of Islam in Regensburg cathedral, to rehabilitating the Holocaust-sceptic Bishop Richard WilliamsonThe beatings were regular and always brutal. At least 50 times Mr Mixa pulled down my trousers and beat me on the bottom with a stick, five or six whacks each time, Mr Tagwerk addedThe blows were always administered in places where the bruising could be hidden - high up on the arm or on the bottom. One of the victims, a man who is now 44, reports being flogged with a carpet beater, 35 strokes each time._ http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7082705.ece_
Re: [cia-drugs] Health dooms America to Pharma-domination
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/03/military_psychiatric_drugs_03... The Army Times far more independent than most realize. Still conservative, of course. This is big. It is such a deliberate misuse of humans. Army Times also broke the General Van Riper story. These are good signs. Much of the inside military had to be behind this for this to come about. m - From: stard...@bellsouth.net Health care reform bill dooms America to Pharma-dominated sickness and suffering Monday, March 22, 2010 by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger Editor of NaturalNews.com http://www.naturalnews.com/028416_health_care_reform_legislation.html (NaturalNews) Today the medical mafia struck another devastating blow to the health and freedom of all Americans . With the support of an inarguably corrupt Congress that has simply abandoned the real needs of the American people, the sick-care industry has locked in a high-profit scheme of disease and monopoly-priced pharmaceuticals in a nation that can ill afford either one. And this Pharma-funded betrayal, it turns out, was led by the Democrats. Passed on a 219-212 vote that was only accomplished thanks to closed-door, last-minute secret meetings among the last holdouts, this new legislation puts America under the stranglehold of the medical mafia while doing absolutely nothing to address real health care reform. There is no mention in the bill, for example, of vitamin D for preventing cancer, or orthomolecular medicine for preventing degenerative disease. There's not even a word about protecting health freedom or ending the century of oppression that has been waged against naturopathic practitioners by the AMA, FDA and FTC . The new legislation does, however, lock in billions of dollars in monopoly profits for the pharmaceutical companies -- the same companies who spent millions of dollars pushing for its passage and who depend on the continuation of sickness and disease for their future profits. There's only one problem with this health care reform bill: It doesn't reform health care . It has almost nothing to do with health care at all, in fact: It's really more of an effort to expand a broken sick-care system . When faced with the problem that our sick-care system doesn't work , Congress somehow decided that fixing the problem merely involved expanding the failures to include everyone! And you don't even get a choice in the matter, either. All Americans are now required to pay into a sick-care system of monopolized, pharmaceutical medicine even if they reject that failed system of medicine . So the healthy people who actually take responsibility for their health are financially penalized and forced to subsidize profits for drug companies! Watch my recent video called Healthy Without Health Insurance in America . It's on YouTube right now at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWuX2s7h55A Has America gone mad? I love America. Or, more accurately, I love what America is supposed to stand for: Freedom, opportunity, abundance, free choice, diversity... But I'm increasingly noticing that America's leaders don't believe in those ideals at all. They are betraying the American people by selling out our futures to the corporate monopolists. They are turning America into a corporatocracy , and the passage of this monopoly sick-care system is yet another perfect example of just how easily our own lawmakers will sell out the People just to appease the powerful chemical industrialists who dominate medicine today. They have sold out our futures to keep themselves in power, and isn't that the worst kind of betrayal of all? People's live are on the line here. While people like myself and many other health freedom champions are fighting for health freedom and an end to human suffering among our fellow brothers and sisters, we've got our national leaders essentially aiming the artillery at our own people and yelling Fire! Through their actions with this health care reform bill, they are forcing people into circumstances that are going to cost countless lives and many trillions of dollars in wasted expenditures and lost economic productivity. Our Congress has betrayed us (yet again). I believe that with perhaps the exception of Rep. Ron Paul, every single Senator and House Representative should be thrown out of office at the next election, stripped of their power and sent home to face their home-district families that they have now doomed to a lifetime of sickness, disease and pharmaceutical toxicity. Our national leaders claim to be voting on Health Care but what they really delivered was Hell Care , because dying of cancer while on chemotherapy while no doctor can legally tell you that vitamin D prevents 4 out of 5 cancers is, indeed, a living hell (or dying hell, in this case). And speaking of Hell, the dark energies that have been provoked and called upon in this battle for pharmaceutical dominance over the
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Power in south
Thank you, Karma. Islam was provided with what is acknowledged as the greatest military invention that the world has ever come up with. They used it wisely. Gaddafi has really learned the ropes. He came close to being whacked. At that level there are some rules for assassination. Basically You assassinate them not us at our level. In the past I found that upsetting. If assassinations were allowed to go to leaders every leader would be a target. Now this can only be done under certain conditions. Gaddafi sent a strong message with where he put his ceremonial tent when he spoke in the UN. (Hard to explain.) This was in conjunction with Russias Arctic Sea statement. The loud screams that continue over Iran sound, and are, more and more in desperation. I always check the remarks on news sites after a story when possible. On some they can be ordered into the most recommended. You should have seen the reaction to drug killings in Mexico. Both the US and Mexican governments are blamed and most just said that the only choice is to legalize all of it. Most every reply, (about 2/3rds), used Prohibition in the first sentence. You might think I am popping around but trying to get to the spread of attitude change. When I wrote the Aqaba is in Dallas piece here I should have prefaced it with more basic island nations vs. land nations or allies vs. axis info. Axis is an old term that was popularized by Bonito Mussolini. It is a line from Murmansk on top of Russia to Cape Town, South Africa. This is the land axis that has been pummeled by the sea traders for the last 5 to 6 hundred years. They do have the resources. What was talked about in Pakistan was worrisome because it made such sense. You can whack those who are problems under certain conditions. But you cant alter geography. (Trades were made. When is the last time you were in a US motel not run by Pakistanies?) (I started Bhuttos daughters book but never finished it.) This is what is again emerging. And it is for real: http://www.worldbulletin.net/video.php?id=1 It keeps snapping back to the man with the hammer. The greatest military invention of all time is the stirrup. Im better at poetry: I With Kubla Khan Did Beat I with Kubla Khan did beat White war hoof on the victim street. And shared with every victor seat The splendor of the foes retreat. Twas I who fought so close to you, Who stayed the charge Fu Tut Manchu. Who with Czar-son Petrofski Skevar Had boasted multitudes of scar. And with the Shah-son Balbul Amir Had charged the steppes with bow and spear. Who with Tartar and Cossack and Hindu and Turk Under stirrup and pack did your dirtiest work. More, I from Kubla Khan had fled White war hoofs that had turned to red. And with retreating bleeding dread Had stood beside my master dead. Did you think of me as your bearer of Mars? As with head in the saddle you looked at the stars? While you slept so close to earth, This I heard from Heavens mirth: Far above his lovers wail Earths poet god beyond the pale, Dreams sea-cousins in fighting ships Whose right hand stands upon the sea, And leaves his left, with our hoof on ground: Land nations as a fort surround, To war by war each beat to pound. But this I heard alone in clouds As sleep you lay in dreamy shrouds. As sleep you lay on saddle earth Whose picket line of sentry worth, Of steaming nostrils, silvered girth, Has framed the stars that gave you birth. And who rode through all your wars? Who cavalries Calvarys troubled sores? And so destined to your course Has breathed so noble as I, your horse? nice thread. just wanted to add a bit of buried history here. in 1974, pakistan's zulfikar ali bhutto convened an islamic summit in islamabad. co-chaired with gaddafi. attended by all leaders of islamic nations, from saudi royalty to uganda's idi amin. gaddafi's and bhutto's proposal was simple and brilliant. the islamic world at the time held a population of 800 million and controlled vast resources. united they could form a third major power in a world carved up by the west and the soviets. three years later bhutto was toppled and five years later he was hanged. not long after, gaddafi had sanctions imposed on his country over the lockerbie affair and he survived a bombing raid.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Power in south
Thanks, you made many good points. It is fairly well, (about completely), acknowledged in Africa that you cannot plop down and form of democracy. There are no long-standing institutions to base it upon. Military dictatorships work best to start. Moscow trained long-standing Sudan head, Omar al-Bashir, wrote a good piece on this but cant find it on the Internet. South Africa is an example of pushing democracy too quickly: not good at all. Islam works best to start. They have prevailed in running backward societies for a long time. Within a short time the situation becomes very peaceful. When Gaddafi stood up at the UN and said that the Security Council is corrupt, (head of the secret non-use of nuke pact), he got a standing ovation. This was spun another way in Western news. The sudden crisis in Nigeria is because we are loosing inner control. That is why Gaddafi made his odd statement to the effect that Nigeria had better either work together or break up. Nigeria, in some respects, has been the most dynamic holding those three strong tribes together. What is developing now is that it is working together to become one large political and banking block. A real force. Thanks. m Beautiful poem. I should not give too much away. I have a shangaan ringtone. I felt the horse liniment last summer, and things happened like visions before the campfire. I know people with those names, too. Maybe the Mao Mao were homeless squatters, the victims of false flag ops. Maesai and pygmies have recently been evicted, some to concentration camps, and now the US citizens are beginning to experience that 1920's 1930's Dust Bowl Grapes of Wrath here. Matthew McDaniel rides his horse OR to NYC to protest land stealing by a US-backed monarch in Thailand. Have Sri Lankan fishermen won back their beach villages since the hurricane(see Naomi Klein on US wrong side there again). Bush New Orleans. Jessica Lynch was well treated in Iraq. Israeli apartheid and Leb Hezbollah won that Alamo. US aggression in Somalia caused taxation by piracy. Pat Robertson and Ibrahim Bah; blood diamonds. Every African nation where they have succeeded at democracy, truth and reconciliation with or without justice process, development, also is working against misogyny and rape. Women's issues and enfranchisement are moving forward in Africa, and one reason the USG had to hang Lockerbie Pan Am 103 on Libya's Gadafi was because Libya had equality for women and ended exim nationalization while the US still had exim and banking nationalized without land reform completed yet in El Salvador or glasnost perestroika. Now we are still backing misogyny, dictators, warlords, and would no doubt back monarchs if Afghanistan and Iraq had not both refused US transparent attempts to prolong British monarchy as in Jordan and Saudi. It should have been obvious in Liberia in 2004 that though cannibals, the indigenous side was the only right side due to only fighting for enfranchisement and an end to Afro-American imitation of southern US plantation model and a caste system. We back monarchs and dictators and secretly raise up the misogynist political islamists and practice cocaine colonialism and monocropping and a host of other evil and stupid losers. There is no way to win with any of that, except in the old British sense of making an empire wheeze on a little longer. Old Pat Robertson bought blood diamonds from RUF army child hand hackers to oppose abortion as wedge issue collapsing into empire as Bushwa hand-maiden. Either we stop giving US bees patent medicine or they die off. Then we wouldl take down trade barriers to foreign food with melamine and pesticides and whatever Blackwater wants to feed us at whatever price the hidden Enron partners want to charge us from Dubai. FEMA pointed guns at hungry and thirsty people in New Orleans. There was no free gas for airboats. Burning oil and a photo op for Bush was all the dimwit losers had. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/49029
Re: [cia-drugs] Power in north Re: Power in south
Thanks, Bob, I would imagine a lot of inner doo-doo in changing North American transportation! Dont have a lot of the specifics. You might remember the Videos of the Branch Davidians made by that female attorney. Her name and the names of her vids escape me. Linda Thompson? Perhaps. I spent some time with her on the phone in the mid nineties. She was curious about an early map of my fathers dividing the US into ten districts. I see that today it is the FEMA districts. So any map she was referring to was pre 1975. Very early long term planning must be done. I am now of two minds regarding some of this. In many respects democracy is just a pain in the rear. You must do the inner planning anyway. When I got into problems with the government I tried to see it as all bad. Thankfully I got rid of that giant resentment. Gorby said, Your turn next, when the wall was taken down. We have just begun. We cannot have long-term growth capitalism. That would be death. We need a period where every screams isms, (you commie twat, you liberal twit, you socialist ghost), until the lungs tire out. Already laws are being changed to allow short-sea. Put that in the open and all hell would break loose. Yes, sometimes governments need lead on the inside. But in the West we have become so corrupt that it seems impossible to change. It runs on its own muck. That was bothering me. Now I see the change will start elsewhere. South America is really collecting into one force. Many shocked that US and Spain would somewhat support Argentina re recent Falkland smugabug. But it is a desperate attempt to hold on to inside power that is slipping. The main forces, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru are saying get out. Columbia is a silly smile, Okay, fine. We will play your drugwar game. Shoot some bullets in the air and give some baked up body counts. Why not? Money is money. And they know the drug game weakens us in the long run. All the methods of corruption around both African and South American governments are known. They are being slyly countered. Sudan agreeing with Chad is the start of another Peace of Westphalia which the entire world sorely needs. Slog slog. Mud is mud. But I see a bright future. m Michael, you would really have fun looking at the geography of the Colossus of Roads. Have you met Mary Hartman here? Something's up where Saudis, Mayo, St Lawrence seaway, Mississipi, interstates north-south east-west, Canada-US, east-west and north-south railroads, O'Connor Lansky crupt, strategic offensive biowar, Whitewater-CastleGrande-Branson land stealing crew, CIA, wilderness and species conservation with CIA and human genocidal and land stealing aspects, FBI running police cover like Franklin-APEC-Boystown, all suggests Carroll Quigley's starship Civitas Dei is about to land again. Maybe they have Thomas Gold deep earth oil, but so far it's just all the other geography, and your interior. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote:
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Power in south
We are all on same page. AFRICOM important. Did I post the letter I wrote to General Ward of AFRICOM? I think I did. From looks of Chad and Sudan and even strangness in Nigeria I think Africa is doing their own Peace of Westphalia but keeping it inside. Anything they do out in open becomes a target. And I certainly support Turkey. I don't know what Sweden is doing, have friends there and they too are embarrassed. France and England just as responsible for Armenia. Armenia teaches you not to trust a jump country. Keeping enemies close does not mean betraying them while in their lap, lol. m hear hear! albeit experience has demonstrated you not reciprocating communication / direct question. That is of course your prerogative, and I love ya just the same, but such seems to go counter to your below expressed position? My Friend ;-) - Original Message - From: muckblit muckb...@yahoo.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:11:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Power in south The level of political, intellectual discourse by the common people in Latin America and Africa leaves us behind. They are not afraid of the old CIA puppet dictators. No African nation wants AFRICOM. People mob farm foreclosure auctions in Latin America and either shut them down or buy the farmer's land cheap for him. Then it surprised me to hear that the same paradigm was practiced here during the Dust Bowl and Great Depression. I thought we were still being beat up by importing smart people from India and Pakistan. Paks have taken Brighton Beach from the Russians. Why do we need broadband if we can just let all the B-1B foreigners replace us at a third the cost? Can't we all just be morons? Being middle class has so many obligations, including an orderly thought process so as not to spam the internet. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: Many in the US might be so shocked at level of inside control that they think unstoppable. The real solution will come from the outside. The Third World. To many this is hard to believe. This is why I posted about the opera in Mexico. Another sign all over the net is the expensive decision to get broadband to as many citizens as possible in the US and in the UK. Why? Because we are falling more and more behind in invention. Less and less percent of patents and on and on. So the broadband decision shows the level of desperation. Michael Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [cia-drugs] Power in south
Wow, thanks. General Zinni too. m, dear Michael, this might interest you?: National Broadband Plan http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/MediaCog/message/712 also, if you feel like it, please elaborate on the 'South Power' factor. ;-) - Original Message - From: micha...@midcoast.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:51:37 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [cia-drugs] Power in south Many in the US might be so shocked at level of inside control that they think unstoppable. The real solution will come from the outside. The Third World. To many this is hard to believe. This is why I posted about the opera in Mexico. Another sign all over the net is the expensive decision to get broadband to as many citizens as possible in the US and in the UK. Why? Because we are falling more and more behind in invention. Less and less percent of patents and on and on. So the broadband decision shows the level of desperation. Michael Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [cia-drugs] Power in south
Re: Power in the South: Simplification of world situations is the hardest. One simplification, (not an oversimplification), is: Aqaba is in Dallas, Hadrians Wall is in New Bedford, and The only road back to Jerusalem is through Gulu. These are just broad, but useful, geographic images from history. One: Aqaba is in Dallas: We control the world by using navies to control the flow of oil. Technology has turned on itself. The AK-47 now trumps the carrier based battle group. This is now admitted to even in the prestigious Naval Institutes magazine: Proceedings. Like Lawrences decision to cross the desert and attack Aqaba the guns are trained on the sea and cannot be turned. This is why Chavez visits the Kalashnikov factory in Russia. It is to reinforce the knowledge of this. (BTW the 47 stands for 1947!) Two: Hadrians Wall is in New Bedford. Most all colonialism, the contacts, were based on the contacts in the first world-wide industry; whaling. Even in the American Revolution the seaports were bonded to the international bankers- New York City remaining Tory until the end. Mao knew it was far more important to take the countryside. Once he won he moved all universities inland. We have reached that limit. Normal war is impossible throughout most of Latin American and a good portion of Africa. In vast areas of South American the cities are in the high-ground- at altitudes for better temperature. In one case a mere squad of men held up all transportation to a city by attacking a nexus of roads through the jungle for a full month. Many of these areas can also exist better without electric or oil. Not well , but exist. War is war. Another way of saying this: The South is less dependent on resources such as oil and very rich in them. Much of our oil, for example, comes from Venezuela and Angola. Three: The only road back to Jerusalem is through Gulu. This is really coming about at present. Jerusalem here is used to represent a world coming together on critical strategic issues. It really is in progress. Even the Christian Science Monitor admitted to the CIAs focus on Gulu, (north of Kampala), as a listening post. We must accept a collecting Africa. They are to be the breadbasket of the world. (Perhaps not so oddly this too has just been touted by the Christian Science magazine format.) As Africa collects into one power it both reinstates the Peace of Westphalia concept, (more than just Chad and Sudan), but wisely leaves the Gulu and LRA area for last. Like the United States island jumping in the South Pacific in the war against Japan. LRA not on the maps but for a long time an African country bigger than the Iberian peninsula covering areas north of Gulu, teensy slices of Ethiopia, large portions of southern Sudan, parts of CAR and big hunks of the Congo. Both Turkey and China are very ahead in understanding this. Now most critical international meets are in Istanbul, (not Ankara!!). Chinese language teachers in hot demand both in Africa and all over South America including land-locked Bolivia. As this is new to some will repeat with slightly different slant: Aqaba is in Dallas. Hadrians Wall is in New Bedford. And the ONLY road back to Jerusalem is through Gulu. Aqaba is in Dallas: The present control of the world is mainly the Western worlds sea power protecting the oil business. From the demonstration of General Van Riper, etc, this has finally been admitted. The NYTimes did so in editorial but was careful to use the phrase mid ocean navy and omitting the terms blue water navy and littoral. You might be able to research this by Googling littoral and navy but you would need wade through tons of mil. babble. To simplify this just realize that the AK-47 has trumped the cruise missile. Eventually low-tech beats high-tech but it is a slow process. The image comes from WW I and Lawrence of Arabias surprise attack on Aqaba across the assumed impassable desert as the guns of Aqaba were trained on the sea and could not be turned. Dallas represents oil control. Hadrians Wall is in New Bedford: We are still enmeshed in a postcolonial period worldwide. In general this shows itself on the first worldwide sea trade, the whaling industry. To a great extent, (worldwide), there is tension between the port areas and inland areas. New York City stayed Tory until the end of the American Revolution. Mao saw this and kept his Long March inward ignoring the seaports until the end. Even after that revolution he saw the continuing psychological danger and moved all colleges and universities inward to the countryside. Areas in northern latitudes where technology is more necessary, (cold climates etc.), inland areas are reduced to inward frustration. They are far more a real power south. Those land areas more vested in ports tend to break off. Portugal is to Spain as the Benelux nations and old Holland is to Germany as the real Phoenicians were to the then
Re: [cia-drugs] Pope 'led cover-up of child abuse by priests' 30.09.06 The Pope played a leading
Thanks, The comments are telling on the link. Seems you might look at the banking/political angle within the Church as being very similar to Franklin etc. This is bigger mostly because of the emotional impact. m Pope 'led cover-up of child abuse by priests' 30.09.06 The Pope played a leading role in a systematic cover-up of child sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests, according to a shocking documentary to be screened by the BBC tonight. In 2001, while he was a cardinal, he issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops all over the world, instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety. The document recommended that rather than reporting sexual abuse to the relevant legal authorities, bishops should encourage the victim, witnesses and perpetrator not to talk about it. And, to keep victims quiet, it threatened that if they repeat the allegations they would be excommunicated. _http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23369148-pope-led-cover-up-of-ch ild-abuse-by-priests.do_ (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23369148-pope-led-cover-up-of-child-abuse-by-priests.do)
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Power in south
(Note: less than two weeks after I sent this Kenya exploded.) General William E. Ward Vice Admiral Robert T. Moeller Ambassador Mary Carlin Yates AFRICOM Dear Ambassador Yates, General Ward and Admiral Moeller, Permission to speak frankly as you three are in deep doo doo. You learned nothing from Lebanon? The militia was part of a female social organization the power of which surprised both the CIA and Mossad. The greater war for Africa looms. First we had the stupidity of Admiral Timothy J. Keating with his almost nuke terrorist exercise in Charleston, S.C. I posted letter to him on Internet prior (over 14,000 readers first week) and the exercise that would have given too much away called off. See http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/webnukeletter.htm But you go into deeper shit. Coastal meetings have taken place that starts the process of Africa working together as one country . It will: but not in that fashion. That is the outside. As Mao understood prior to his long march the interior is far more important. You continue to play sides against each other. It did not work in many groups / religions Lebanon and it will not work in Africa. Africa will collect from the inside. It will not be ordered. No, (at least visible), central command. Who will you be fighting then? Terrorists? Are a group of guys who shoot soldiers in the back when there is no declared war terrorists? Of course they are. It happened. They met later in a barn frightened that the government would come after them and hang them for treason. But a rider pulls up and informs them that a revolution is afoot. Ethan Allen names his group the Green Mountain Boys and continues. You did right when you set up a CIA listening post in Gulu (Christian Science Monitor). But you didnt listen. You wish to prosecute Joseph Kony. He was caught between the old Black Jewish sects of Ethiopia, Christians and Muslims. The Lords Revolution Army was: One God, Ten Commandments or we shoot you. Seems nonsensical until you realize that it is a common denominator that you dare not go past. So even if UN captures and hangs him after peace declared, so what? It was not that specific philosophy but the general concept that spread to Lebanon. As it will now spread (from inside out) in Africa. That seed is sown: the ground fertile. Admiral Moeller, You learned nothing from General Van Riper? First you overlook the sinking of the H.M.S Sheffield because only other navies (secretly our friends) could do such. And you held that view even after surprise Soviet naval maneuvers of 1984. Missiles better than that French missile can now be hid in the sand on the seabed. Woods Hole Oceanagraphic Hydrods can only detect metal to 3 meters. You even used platoons of dolphins off the Gunsten Hall. But you had to keep bringing in animal trainers because of dolphin boredom. You sent down divers over every point you saw a trawler stop in the Golf. Think that is enough? Attack on Cole and whatever was in Aqaba was inept compared to what is coming. John Lehman made a big point about loosing surface ships as sometimes necessary citing Midway. How many do you think you could afford to loose in this day and age, sir? You nixed the Land Attack DD 21 in favor of Littorals. All four are out of San Diego because of Malacca. Before you tried to protect that 1200 miles of shoreline with rubber boats and fifty caliber. Think this is better? You can bury effective missiles in the sand with launchers made from nothing but liquid vinyl and sawdust. About anything else you would need can be picked up at Toys-R-Us. Those Littorals are now only targets. General Ward, Sir, there is one thing you will never do here. You will never be able to define the battlefield. A non-military for intel? More shades of Rummy, sir? What is being shown as prime target? If Algeria example, it will be the UN. Of course. See play at link above. Ambassador Yates, Ahmadinejad states recently that he is holding another unspecified card re: nukes. What do you imagine this is? See also play at link above. Hedley Donovan was the best at naval intelligence in WW II. (Song from South Pacific, Happy Talk was tribute.) Once in Hawaii he had only a short time to locate Jap fleet. He puts out simple directive to spies on every island. They had to go down to the local bar and report the talk as either happy or serious, nothing in-between. With just this he located fleet at Leyte Gulf. In the same sense if you want to see what is connecting in Africa watch for those army Toyota pick-ups that have the most females with the soldiers (as Lebanon). But that wont even do. They will think of this also. I see just what you are doing. What I think about your present relationship with Kenya is unprintable. Perhaps some poetry will express this better. Poetry follows. With all respect, Sincerely
[cia-drugs] Power in south
Many in the US might be so shocked at level of inside control that they think unstoppable. The real solution will come from the outside. The Third World. To many this is hard to believe. This is why I posted about the opera in Mexico. Another sign all over the net is the expensive decision to get broadband to as many citizens as possible in the US and in the UK. Why? Because we are falling more and more behind in invention. Less and less percent of patents and on and on. So the broadband decision shows the level of desperation. Michael
Re: [cia-drugs] US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran
Thanks ! Today in Mexico that opera goes on and on and makes a storm. Protesters around the President chant: You are the drug runner, President. Not so here. Here we have no-course changing art. As a group we are too afraid and/or the situation has not become dire enough. I am beginning to see why Mr. Roberts was a success. We have all played Mr. Roberts at one point or another. I remember mine. I locked our platoon sergeant in his 2nd floor squad room. All hell broke loose and there was a company formation with the top screaming at us. They would catch this guy, whoever did it. I spoke up in formation and said, I locked him up. The top dismissed the formation except me. When the CO gave out the article 15, (a light wrist slap), he had trouble keeping a straight face. I was known from then on as Lockup Donovan or just Lockup. But now I see that it probably, as in the play, inspired others to do the same. We dont dare toss off the captains potted palm here. Lol. m - Original Message - From: micha...@midcoast.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:54:36 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran There the play is the thing... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8563528.stm Here we are still learning to play Mr. Roberts... ruxpert response: Correction: we, Here fully practiced on our TVs, Already know how to play such, right Here as we see you me play precisely such, Mr. Roberts! ;-) La Société du spectacle - Society of the Spectacle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48973
Re: [cia-drugs] US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran
Iran takes the uranium and puts it right out in the open. Makes a thing of it. NYTimes does a beautiful job spinning it. Saturday edition, front page. (Sat least read they did not want to push it.) The spin is this: Oh, we are so confused, we dont understand what this means. The obvious is: Iran: You would not dare. And we wouldnt: hence spin. And now they play the alternate media like lap dogs. Just put some nukes in Garcia and let it out. The coming peace is far more frightening than war. - Forwarded Message - From: James Morris To: traitors...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 Subject: US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran http://tinyurl.com/USshippingbunkerbustersforiran http://america-hijacked.com/2010/03/16/us-shipping-powerful-bunker-buster-bombs-to-diego-garcia-for-coming-attack-on-iran/ Additional via http://AMERICA-HIJACKED.COM
Re: [cia-drugs] US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran
There the play is the thing... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8563528.stm Here we are still learning to play Mr. Roberts... Ya, but that's what we do, while simultaneously increasingly establishing us serfs into condition of accepting such glocal homegrown terrorism police-state propaganda harmonization; we comply to commensurate our part demonstrating as appeased satisfied with swapping headlines like baseball cards, in simulation as if we are working together to crack the cube; when we already have Had more than enough evidence to administer the required righteous peaceful coup. Seemingly easily immediately more attractively addicting than otherwise simply uniting as Required to fix what we seem to otherwise lament about? Bread circus / kabuki theater / the sociopathy of spectacle / mesmerizing ourselves misdirected while organized corruption increasingly despoils enslaves us via such absurd maneuvers mocking our will to pull freedom's trigger in the face of slavery's assualt, or we would have united by now, via all the blatant screaming evidence, and easily, in our vast numbers, imprisoned or hung the traitorous terrorists in our midst with said over abundance of evidence. Will we get what we deserve, or Perhaps we just need to give it a bit more time until Interpol has established itself in the world's eye able willing to do what we could not do regarding our own homegrown terrorists that have been performing their role abusing the world ... not to worry, it shouldn't be much too long now, when the time mood is right, Interpol will establish itself policing hero of our time world wide ... and having saved us from ourselves, albeit reduced to a third world country fitting our current character; perhaps the cogdis addiction could begin to subside, with the rising sun of a new world order in our mind's eye? After so much disappointment, self-betrayal, and murderous chaos; perhaps then with nothing left inside, no-longer any self-respect lingering in the way, we can finally wearied rest as soft clay to be reborn into somethingk that at least seems to make sense: war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength -- Georgette Orwell Reply: March 12th, 2010 I told you once and I'll tell you again: WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. feature article: 20 Signs That The US Is Rapidly Becoming A Police State http://tinyurl.com/y88y48l http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PoliceState/message/696 === La Société du spectacle - Society of the Spectacle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g34XVscFkIs stay 'tuned', keep doing what we're doing; IMF shock therapy coming soon ;-) - Original Message - From: micha...@midcoast.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:44:15 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran Iran takes the uranium and puts it right out in the open. Makes a thing of it. NYTimes does a beautiful job spinning it. Saturday edition, front page. (Sat least read they did not want to push it.) The spin is this: âOh, we are so confused, we donât understand what this means.â The obvious is: Iran: âYou would not dare.â And we wouldnât: hence spin. And now they play the alternate media like lap dogs. Just put some nukes in Garcia and let it out. The coming peace is far more frightening than war. - Forwarded Message - From: James Morris To: traitors...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 Subject: US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming attack on Iran US shipping powerful bunker buster bombs to Diego Garcia for coming
[cia-drugs] Robinita Hood:
Robinita Hood: We dont need no stinking badges , is now the 9mm Chica with the sneaka. I love it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8563528.stm Michael D.
Re: [cia-drugs] A Terrible Mistake?
Seems that by the mid eighties there were in place some not-public agreements concerning use of mind control drugs. This is why TASS made such a stink about Koslov: http://www.nytimes.com/1984/06/10/weekinreview/the-world-252031.html There the NYTimes is trying to spin out of responsibility. The Times story of TASS raising hell that came out one month prior has been wiped from Internet. That story was buried in the back of the least read day, Saturday, about a month prior I was searching and what came up was a prior CIA drugs post: http://www.mail-archive.com/cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com/msg13556.html It is good that this is starting in the past as digging up old bones could be counter-productive at this point. Sometime in the mid/late 90s the head medical doctor of Finland, (position of US Surgeon General) said that mind-control ops/drugs the biggest threat to democracy. Perhaps France in this is good as there started the basic for all our international agreements: UN, Geneva Convention, Switzerland-agreed-bankers-bank, da da da it all goes back to Westphalia. The year was 1648. Not even four centuries ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_sovereignty So there seems some deliberate breaking of that agreement, using the past, in the form of some other negotiation or statement-making. France also came out and agreed that China has no choice but to invade Tibet. CIA ops in Tibet were threatening Chinas water-shed. Why France? Of the Island Nations France got the worst deals post Bonapart in both the colonialism and neo colonialism game. France shit when Dullas tried to get it to use 2 A-bombs in the mid fiftes. (Life imitating art: Hello Nellie Forbush.) As for Tibet: Obama had to try compromise and made real point of seeing that Deli Lama guy in the White House maproom, not Oval Office. No bad news is bad news. Good. m http://thebrainpolice.blogspot.com/2010/03/terrible-mistake.html WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10, 2010 A Terrible Mistake? Today in the French News, was the startling announcement that the French Government is demanding explanations from the United States for a mysterious outbreak of mass insanity in the South Eastern Village of Pont-Saint-Esprit that occurred almost 60 years ago. 500 hundred people were affected and there were 5 deaths. The implications could have long range effects on Franco-American relations. The incident occurred in 1951 and started with the hospitals being flooded with people in various stages of outward insanity. Children tried to murder their parents, victims screamed that red flowers were growing from their heads, that their heads ahad turned to molten lead, their stomachs were filled with snakes. Others were enthralled and claimed they saw heavenly visons, heard cosmic music and were filled with the holy spirit. At the time, scientists came up with various explanations ranging from mercury tainted wheat to a recurrence of ergotism, or St. Anthony's Fire, alegendary afflicion that vanished with the Middle Ages and was caused by rye grains infected with the ergot fungus, which among other substances, produced lysergic acid which is the active ingredient of LSD. Mercury tainted wheat sold illegally by an Italian firm in the this decade in Iraq was responsible for an outbreak of seeming insanity in an Iraqi village, but the symptoms also were lethal in many cases, from the mercury. The Pont-Saint-Esprit mystery was speculated about for years. Indeed a tantalizing clue was given by Albert Hoffman, the Swiss scientist who worked for Sandoz Laboratories who developed LSD and documented its effects. He wrote in his work, LSD, My Problem Child, about the connection with Sandoz and the American CIA and how Sandoz was able to interest the Americans in the possible use of an aerosol delivered LSD for military use. Recently after the allegations of American involvement began to resurface in 2009 and were never successfully quashed, the Author, H.P. Albarelli Jr. just released a book in the USA called A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments. He documents through the revelations of Ex CIA personel that the outbreak in 1951 in Pont-St-Esprit was the direct result of a covert CIA experiment with an aerosol LSD which was carried out by the Special Operations Division of Fort Detrick, MD. He documents that the scientists who produced the explanations were experts working for Sandoz which was supplying the US Army and the CIA with LSD for experimental use. He goes on to say, that at one point and this has been documented in many places, the CIA entertained the idea of using LSD in a control in an American city by placing it in the water system, but the results of the French experience were so horrific that they reconsidered it. Indeed, in documents that Alberelli obtained from Ft. Dertrick, the
[cia-drugs] Not the only judge to sense this.....
http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2010m3d9-Former-judge-challenges-governments-right-to-ban-drugs (quote) ... The government has as much of a right to control what I as an adult put into my body as it does what I put into my mind. It's none of their business. So says Jim Gray, who recently retired as the presiding judge of the Superior Court of California for Orange County. A former drug warrior as a prosecutor and then a judge, Gray came to see that prohibition of disfavored intoxicants was a perverse and impractical policy -- and one with serious moral and economic consequences. Gray was unusual among government officials who have turned against prohibition in that he started speaking out while he was on the bench, making public appearances calling for changes in policy, including full legalization, and authoring a book making the same case. He presents his arguments in short form in the video below from ReasonTV. ... (unquote)
Re: [cia-drugs] FW: If We LET Them, They'll Work Us TO DEATH While Making Us PAY for the Privilege
The good news: One characteristic of longevity is (quote) ...keen interest in current events... This is from a study done by my grandfather, one of the founders of psychiatry in the US, Dr. Stephen P. Jewett. His studies are now being quoted by new age writer Deepak Chopra. The links are funny on this, tested and did not work. But if you google Deekpak Chopra and Jewett it comes up first. m -- Forwarded Message From: dasg...@aol.com dasg...@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:21:32 EST To: Robert Millegan ramille...@aol.com Cc: ema...@aol.com, j...@aol.com, jim6...@cwnet.com, christian.r...@daegis.com Subject: If We LET Them, They'll Work Us TO DEATH While Making Us PAY for the Privilege Average age at death by Age at retirement Dr. Ephrem (Siao Chung) Cheng study (http://faculty.kfupm.edu.sa... http://faculty.kfupm.edu.sa ) This is something we all would like to believe is true -- that there is an inverse relationship between the age we retire and the age that we expect to die. According to a study conducted by Dr. Ephrem, based on data of pensioners from Boeing Aerospace, the earlier we retire, the longer our life span is going to be. For example, if we retire at around the age of 50, we would expect to live to age 86, another 36 years old.In contrast, if we retire later at age 65, we would expect to live only for another 2 years. Normal retirement age is 65, and yet this study of Boeing employees supports only another 2 years of life span. However, we need to understand the biases [reflected] by this result -- this experience is based on one particular group and may not apply to everybody in the broadest sense. But it seems to make sense that if we do retire early, we could escape from the pressure of work and could expect to live longer. Just as with any other results of experience data, we have to be cautious. - http://www.babyboomercaretaker.com/retirement/early-retirement/Study-On-Life-E xpectancy-Based-On-Early-Retirement.html Study On Life Expectancy Based On Early Retirement Earlier it was believed that people who took early retirement ended up having longer life expectancy compared to people who retired at normal age of retirement. However, this belief has now been proven wrong after researchers conducted a study on life expectancy based on early retirement. The study on life expectancy based on early retirement was conducted in Texas over a period of 26 years. More than 3,500 employees of Shell Oil were studied during this period. The researchers studied the lives of employees who retired at the ages of 55, 60 and 65 and they also studied employees who continued working at the ages of 55 and 60. The employees came from all grades. During the course of the study, researchers found that early retirement was not at all connected to higher or increased life expectancy. In fact, it was discovered that employees who retired early, at age 55, were more likely to die before those who continued to work. The study found that mortality rate was twice as high in the first ten years after retirement at the age of 55. Unfortunately the study could not calculate the average life expectancy of the workers ! because many of them were still alive [after retiring] when the study concluded. - Retirement Age vs Life Expectancy: Why Social Security Is Going Broke http://www.tommcmahon.net/2009/05/retirement-age-vs-life-expectancy-why-social -security-is-going-broke.html http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/04/chart-of-day-retirement-age-v-life.html - You can have healthcare, to keep you alive, or Social Security, to cover the bare-minimum cost of living, but NOT BOTH. Take your choice. Very soon all the bankers, insurers and accountants who like to call themselves your government will FORCE you to make a choice. Object and you won't get EITHER! Their logic is as simple as the math. If government is allowed to raise the age of retirement to the age of life expectancy --age 77 as of 2010-- that big chunk of cash they've taken out of every paycheck, picking your pocket in the guise of deductions for Social Security, is 100% profit for THEM -- not a single penny will ever return to YOU as promised. What the governmen will tell you, of course, is that (like any Ponzi scheme) the money you never got will go back into the System to replenish the general fund, in order to provide Social Security for OTHERS when THEY retire. However, keep in mind that NO ONE ELSE who waits until age 77 to retire will live long enough to see that money EITHER! So where does all the money you've *involuntarily* entrusted to the government to save for YOUR retirement GO? To the government, who spends it as fast as you give it to them, for the sheer pleasure of it, without a care in the world, no
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: FW: Police Being Trained to Shoot to Kill the Homeless, Jobless, and Food Rioters
It is not necessary to teach killing enjoyment. It is programmed in. A good deal of PTSD (shell shock, battle fatigue) is the product of a 'moral' person not being able to handle this feeling. It is rarely even addressed in literature. However, there are a few exceptions. 1- Mario Puzo's Godfather: Where Michael kills the police captain in the restaurant and almost forgets to drop the gun on the way to the get-away car. Before entering the car he exclaims to himself, My God, it is just like sex. 2- Lawrence of Arabia. This is both in Seven Pillars of Wisdom and the movie. Lawrence complains to General Gordon that he does not wish to return to the desert, the killing bothers him. The general makes some remark about all hating it but it necessary. Lawrence then says, You don't understand, sir. I enjoy it. General Gordon does understand and there is nothing he can say. He must then order Lawrence. Serial murders are almost always the result of some angry action and the perpetrator suddenly getting an unexpected rush and that rush setting off an addictive pattern to try to repeat it. Law enforcement does always attract those who enjoy hurting others, lording over them. Good management needs spend much time weeding this out. If this 'natural sickness' goes to management level all hell can break loose in a covered way. Such is life. When a CIA lackey was in training he was reading a book written by a military shrink that dealt with teaching soldiers to enjoy killing. Clearly the technique they are using has flaws because suicide among our soldiers is at an all-time high; but given the psychological make-up of many who enter the law enforcement field, it may turn out to be an effective technique for use here at home. --- On Mon, 3/1/10, muckblit muckb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: muckblit muckb...@yahoo.com Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: FW: Police Being Trained to Shoot to Kill the Homeless, Jobless, and Food Rioters To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 9:24 PM  Although there are four crematoria around the CIA blue building in Westfield(Bilderber ger meeting site for Hillary Clinton and Obama) Chantilly, VA, the very first things that come to mind are Jena Six, the Southern Gun Nut Mentality, and let me see if I can find the clipping to show this is yet another degree of foolish brother Cain's denialism. Yes, He encouraged the officers to come up with a plausible story that would allow him to conclude that the shooting was justified http://www.nytimes. com/2010/ 02/25/us/ 25orleans. html Lieutenant Lohman, 42 and now retired, concluded shortly after arriving on the scene that the shooting was legally unjustified, federal authorities said. He encouraged the officers to come up with a plausible story that would allow him to conclude that the shooting was justified, the authorities said...When another police investigator told Lieutenant Lohman that he was going to plant a gun under the bridge to bolster the story that the officers were being fired at, Lieutenant Lohman went along, and even asked if the gun was traceable, the authorities said...At the encouragement of Lieutenant Lohman, the officers who were involved made up details, the authorities said, like a claim that one victim had reached for a shiny object in his waistband... At one point, according to the documents, Mr. Lohman was frustrated that the cover-up story in the report, which was drafted by a police sergeant, was not logical, so he drew up one of his own, which broadly changed details to fit the false story. The sergeant later replaced that report with a shorter one that was changed to fit the audiotaped statements of the police who were involved. -- Forwarded Message From: dasg...@... dasg...@... Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:10:48 EST To: Robert Millegan ramille...@. .. Cc: ema...@..., j...@..., jim6...@..., christian.ream@ ... Subject: Police Being Trained to Shoot to Kill the Homeless, Jobless, and Food Rioters Louisiana Cops Plan for End of the World Scenario http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ louisiana- cops-plan- for-%e2%80% 9cend-of- the-world% e2%80%9d- scenario. html Kurt Nimmo Infowars.com, February 28, 2010 Police in Louisiana's Bossier Parish are training for an end of the world scenario, according to the Shreveport Times http://www.shrevepo rttimes.com/ article/20100227 /NEWS01/2270314/ 1060/NEWS01 .  http://www.shrevepo rttimes.com/ article/20100227 /NEWS01/2270314/ 1060/NEWS01 The program is dubbed Operation Exodus, inspired in part from the Book of Exodus in the Bible. Parish Sheriff Larry Deen told the newspaper the buck stops with him. The liability stops with Larry Deen. I am the chief law enforcement officer in this parish, and it is incumbent upon me [to] protect all of the people in it, the officer said, referring to himself in the third person. Deen's plan is to protect Bossier Parish's vital resources, like
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Last Columbine Mystery
Re: Where was the FBI kid?... I assume you mean the son of Dwayne Fuselier the lead FBI investigator in the Columbine 'whatever'. He founded the Trenchcoat mafia but graduated a year before and was a freshman in college. FBI, (oddly), did not see a conflict of interest in this. There should have been a conflict-of-interest flag on that position in any case. Here the son of the lead FBI investigator has founded the same group and the same high school that the 'shooters' belonged to. I have one link on this: http://www.rense.com/politics2/littleton2.htm The above has been well established and not even denied by FBI, (how could they deny?). The story was in one main stream media, Denver Post if my memory holds. Yetyet it gets buried anyway. Former female head government medical doctor of Finland, (same as chief surgeon here), had stated some years ago that mind control operations were the biggest threat to democracy. m Where was the FBI kid? That's the last mystery for me. We almost had a Columbine here. A 12-year-old brought a bag of rifles and shotguns to school. He rode with his mother, who worked at the school. An assistant principal jumped him in the bathroom when the ap heard a gun cocking or lock and load sound. The boy had pointed a gun at people in another room, and been seen walking the hall with a rifle. I spoke on cell phone with a student who was locked in a class room, and with our CIA drug refugee who was off campus. I phoned a parent to tell him to pick up his son at a nearby elementary school. I had been alerted by a huddle of cops while a helicopter hovered above the school, which said to me there was a hostage situation. I think the mother did jail time. Where was the Columbine FBI kid? If we're talking about how Eric Harris and Dylan Kliebold got that way, they were in an FBI program written by the lead investigator after the fact. Where was the FBI kid? -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis thehatefuln...@... wrote: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-24/the-last-colum\ bine-mystery/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsC5 The Last Columbine Mystery by Dave Cullen AP Photo As another school shooting rocks Littleton, Colorado, Dave Cullen reveals the secret meeting of Eric Harris' parents with his victims' kin-offering a rare glimpse into how they saw their son. It's been nearly 11 years since the Columbine tragedy rocked the nation, and the largest remaining questions center on the killers' parents: Did they see it coming? Why do they think it happened? How did the tragedy affect them? Do they feel remorse? Have they expressed it to the victims? Sue Klebold finally addressed those questions last October in an essay in O Magazine. But her son Dylan was the junior partner in the attack. Eric Harris was the mastermind, and his parents have never spoken publicly. But it turns out they secretly met with two victims' families, who quietly but diligently pursued contact for years. The existence of those meetings-one of which is recounted in detail here-has never before been reported. Wayne and Kathy accepted that Eric was a psychopath. Where that came from, they didn't know. But he fooled them, utterly. Tom and Linda Mauser's son Daniel was shot to death by Eric in the Columbine library. Last summer, the couple finally met Eric's parents. The meeting took years to arrange. It began in 2007, with an angry letter from Tom Mauser. He and Linda had chosen not to take part in lawsuits many of their peers leveled against the Harrises and Klebolds. But they were just as hungry for answers. Eventually, Tom's frustration boiled over. All those years and he still didn't know how the boys got away with it. And resentment had set in: Why hadn't the parents reached out more? So he set down some pointed questions. That approach failed. The Harrises declined to meet, though their attorney provided some answers. So then Tom Mauser wrote to Sue Klebold, who met with him. Sue was very apologetic, but had no surprises. He didn't push too hard. Linda stayed home. What an emotional undertaking. Looking those people in the eye-was she ready for that? Would she offer forgiveness? Withhold it? Linda wasn't prepared to wrestle with all that, especially with the wrong family. It wasn't her kid that killed my son, she says. It was Eric. Columbine. By Dave Cullen. 464 Pages. Twelve. $15.99. Linda had been struggling with grief since Daniel's murder, but recently made a breakthrough in therapy: She began telling people what she really thought. She channeled that new expressiveness toward a solution: writing a followup to the Harrises in early 2009. She wrote warmly: no demands, just how she felt. Honestly, she felt conflicted. She wasn't sure what Wayne and Kathy had done. But she was decided on Eric. She forgave him. Word came back slowly from the attorney: Would they like to meet? Yes.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Last Columbine Mystery
Re: ...for a week, and arrested a carload of muslims in Chesapeake(I think) after they laundered their Boston car in Va Beach on their way to FL : Yes, in Chesapeake, there was something there covered up. Virginia Pilot covered it and it disappeared. But what do we do about Cassius? And the group? The real leadership must simply go along with Cassius and Brutus and the others of the senate league. Or get whacked. Bodies of Caesars will pile to the Nile til gunboats of peasants get dressed up in style. In a more serious tone: Sites like this and alternate media have begun to bring out horrors that were considered standard but not public. Public is still in tv trance. Brutus types and Cassius types are also still in a quandary. What can be done? Revolutions of all types set history back. This is a slow plod to change. Alas, it will pass, but boils on the ass. The only reason that the musical 'Kismet' has not been through a revival on Broadway is that in many respects little has changed in Baghdad. Or here. ... I don't know what time is ment to be If it's my friend or enemy or does it only run - Run to set and end Secrets are the crazy dream or just a bad Reality I don't know... 'Sands of Time' from Kismet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnrPXAqIgw son of Dwayne Fuselier the lead FBI investigator in the Columbine 'whatever'. He founded the Trenchcoat mafia but graduated a year before and was a freshman in college. FBI, (oddly), did not see a conflict of interest in this Yes, that's the last Columbine mystery I'm interested in, if I can have the NATO officer MK tour aspect before that. Dad wrote the trenchcoat manual, son made the video; no conflict there that I can see. Just plain old oligarchy mazzini gangers shaking us down every which way. The bully had also graduated the year before, so maybe bullying was not the reason why. Or if it was, the script was written the year before and the media kept to it!? The thing about the Fuselier kid graduating the year before is that his whereabouts still ought to be accounted for, like GHWB 11-22-63. The internet rumor I heard is that his whereabouts are unaccounted for, but, they initially would be, until questions were asked and...what? Maybe the NATO officers know what the new MK models can do, dollar for dollar, compared to the old Matrix gamegunboys. MK and Franklin/APEC/FBI anthem: Rubber Dolly gets played every time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4D_YprlJLo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWlUfB7pltI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnCB7oni8o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4OKizF_4T8 FBI confiscated mail in Bird's Nest, Virginia, on the way down from NJ to Norfolk and FL, for a week, and arrested a carload of muslims in Chesapeake(I think) after they laundered their Boston car in Va Beach on their way to FL. Anthrax? We didn't hear about anthrax for a while. Car incident 9/11/2001. Week of no mail right about then too, way before anthrax arrived anywhere. Ives didn't do Russell Welch anthrax. Anthrax is at a lot of labs. It was in Walter Reed CIA-Detrick lab a few decades ago. It comes down to simple oligarchy scams and shakedowns, doesn't it? Who knows who these guys are: 'The gunmen drive in mainly four-wheel vehicles and quickly disappear from the crime scene.' Silencer guns kill 67 in one day in Baghdad http://www.azzaman.com/english/index.asp?fname=news%5C2010-02-23%5Ckurd\ .htm By Anwar Jumaa 23 Feb 2010 Last Sunday 67 corpses were brought to Baghdad morgue all shot with silencer guns, medical sources said. The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said silencer guns have instilled fear and terror in Baghdad and most of the victims were civil servants, former Baathists and army officers. The latest [Blackwater] victim has been a university professor who was shot dead on Monday as he drove home. The sources named the victim as Dr. Thamer Kamel, head of the human rights section at the Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific research. Taliban strike at heart of Kabul, killing at least 16 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/taliban-strike-at-heart-of\ -kabul-killing-at-least-16-1912345.html --Indians believed to be targets, but Italian secret service officer and French film producer also dead 17 Feb 2010 With suicide bombs, grenades and gunfire, insurgents struck at the heart of Kabul yesterday, killing at least 16 people in co-ordinated attacks that the Afghan President said were targeted at Indians, but which also claimed the life of a senior member of the Italian secret service and a French film producer. The targets of the two-hour explosion of violence included two guesthouses used by foreigners and Kabul's first shopping mall. http://www.google.com/search?q=severin+blanchet+killed http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=9956355 Severin Blanchet, a French documentary filmmaker who was training young Afghans, died
Re: [cia-drugs] ANTI - TANK DOGS !
It is that 'assured bonding'. Needs be there young. We are more attached to animals in building civilization than we realize. Both the Great Wall(s) of China and Hadrian's Wall were mainly to stop horses. The greatest military invention of all time was the stirrup. There is a direct overlap of horse DNA with those areas first civilized. Exceptions prove rule. m Why is that Michael..the 'very loved' part? On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, micha...@midcoast.com wrote: Thank you, Akif et al. Re: standard war dog: You are looking for 1 year old Doberman or German Shepard VERY well loved. So if either of those breeds, well loved and need to sell the Army will give serious look and good price. Some basic training, not much. Goes through basic-- most cut there. Then we are talking about many months of training. Serious training. If told to keep quiet one bark would give your position and kill you. Often there is a need to warn noiselessly. Not always. They must be able to hide, and hide well quickly on command. And of course attack. Though big difference between Dobies and Shepards is that a Dobie will go to sure death and a Shepard will notâ¦. Still fairly equal in the long run. Just matter of preference. Mercenary buddy pinned down in Nicaragua. They spent nearly ½ hour just watching their war dogâs ears.., (a dobie). Then crawled to escape toward the area that the ears never pointed. Dobie took homemade C-4 landmine and lost leg. Friend kept him, many years with a 3 legged dobie. But the first point was the most important. They must have been VERY loved that first year. If you are in the business of killing and not being killed then love is the key. m Anti-tank dogs, also known as dog bombs or dog mines, were hungry dogs with explosives harnessed to their backs and trained to seek food under tanks and armoured vehicles. By doing so, a detonator (usually a small wooden lever) would go off, triggering the explosives and damaging or destroying the military vehicle. The dogs were employed by the Soviet Union during World War II for use against German tanks. The dogs were kept without food for a few days, then trained to find food under a tank. The dogs quickly learned that once released from their pens, food could be found under tracked vehicles. Once trained, the dogs were fitted with an explosive charge and set loose into a field of oncoming German tanks and other tracked vehicles. When the dog went underneath the tankâwhere there was less armourâthe charge would detonate and damage the enemy vehicle. According to Soviet sources, the anti-tank dogs were successful at disabling a reported three hundred German tanks. They were enough of a problem to the Nazi advance that the Germans were compelled to take measures against them. An armoured vehicle's top-mounted machine gun proved ineffective due to the relatively small size of the dogs and the fact that they were low to the ground, fast, and hard to spot. Orders were dispatched that commanded every German soldier to shoot any dogs on sight. Eventually the Germans began using tank-mounted flame-throwers to ward off the dogs. They were much more successful at dissuading the attacks, but some dogs would not stop. In 1942, one use of the anti-tank dogs went seriously awry when a large contingent ran amok, endangering everyone in the battle and forcing the retreat of an entire Soviet division. Soon afterward the anti-tank dogs were withdrawn from service. Training of anti-tank dogs continued until at least June 1996.
Re: [cia-drugs] ANTI - TANK DOGS !
Below is present Dolphin problem in general: Dolphins used in 2nd Iraq invasion because in prior war game General Van Riper played the enemy and sunk most of the US fleet in the Persian Gulf. http://www.newshounds.us/2006/04/24/8th_retired_general_comes_out_against_rumsfeld.php and http://articles.sfgate.com/2003-03-20/news/17483558_1_littoral-combat-ship-pearl-harbor-cruise One of the number of precautions: U.S. Dolphins were used, more than one platoon of them, (7 dolphins to a platoon). The skipper of the USS Gunsten Hall volunteered his ship. However the navy hand to keep flying in more and more animal trainers as right away a giant Dolphin boredom problem developed. Today the US military keeps dolphins for suchs purposes. http://information.usnavyseals.com/2009/12/the-history-of-dolphins-in-us-navy-history.html Ole - Original Message - From: Akif / Chulo / El Ecologista / The Green Wrangler To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:07 AM Subject: [cia-drugs] ANTI - TANK DOGS ! Anti-tank dogs, also known as dog bombs or dog mines, were hungry dogs with explosives harnessed to their backs and trained to seek food under tanks and armoured vehicles. By doing so, a detonator (usually a small wooden lever) would go off, triggering the explosives and damaging or destroying the military vehicle. The dogs were employed by the Soviet Union during World War II for use against German tanks. The dogs were kept without food for a few days, then trained to find food under a tank. The dogs quickly learned that once released from their pens, food could be found under tracked vehicles. Once trained, the dogs were fitted with an explosive charge and set loose into a field of oncoming German tanks and other tracked vehicles. When the dog went underneath the tank-where there was less armour-the charge would detonate and damage the enemy vehicle. According to Soviet sources, the anti-tank dogs were successful at disabling a reported three hundred German tanks. They were enough of a problem to the Nazi advance that the Germans were compelled to take measures against them. An armoured vehicle's top-mounted machine gun proved ineffective due to the relatively small size of the dogs and the fact that they were low to the ground, fast, and hard to spot. Orders were dispatched that commanded every German soldier to shoot any dogs on sight. Eventually the Germans began using tank-mounted flame-throwers to ward off the dogs. They were much more successful at dissuading the attacks, but some dogs would not stop. In 1942, one use of the anti-tank dogs went seriously awry when a large contingent ran amok, endangering everyone in the battle and forcing the retreat of an entire Soviet division. Soon afterward the anti-tank dogs were withdrawn from service. Training of anti-tank dogs continued until at least June 1996.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Gen. Petraeus Firewalls Greater US Casualties Afghanistan
Thank you so much, Muckbit. Thought so but thought better check. m Yes, WP 20100222 A4 really a tiny item and then three well-placed distractions about Afghanistan to chaff all the US civilian casualty stores and McChrystal going to Karzai and apologizing for those horrendous war crimes. It was the right time to tell us about an Afghan boy molestation cult. That's in the north, so let's not look south where the ethnic cleansing campaign is going to be very hard on our boys and theirs, and it's gay, too, since a real man would have common sense, especially after hearing Aaron Russo explain what Rockefeller said to him about fake wars that cannot be won or lost. It was also the right time to tell us Karzai and other top Afghan officials are buying multi-million dollar Dubai homes and condos, and who their anonymizer agent is, and interview all of them for us. Then since Petraeus encapsulated and made old news the higher US casualties prediction, then today it was not necessary to dwell on the prospect of higher US casualties today as we are now learning that over the next 18 months there will be a village to village ethnic cleansing campaign,Marjah is just the beginning. Then Karzai and friends can be dusted off the US embassy roof and choppered to Dubai. I want to know about Ymelda Marcos' shoes. Are the Karzai bobbleheads out yet? Today, Cheney tucked away in hospital with chest pains. During Republican convention he was really meeting with Georgian Soros men, promising weapons and aid for causing more trouble in S Ossetia, so we don't know where he is now really. If he has chest pains maybe he's not dead. US blitz kills 33, injures several Afghan civilians http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=119201sectionid=351020403 22 Feb 2010 Fresh air strikes by the United States have killed at least 33 civilians and injured several others in southern Afghanistan, the Afghan interior ministry says. Afghan authorities announced that the fatalities included four women and a child. US-led forces said that they fired by mistake on a group of vehicles that carried women and children. French missile kills 2 in Afghanistan http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=119203sectionid=351020403 22 Feb 2010 At least two Afghan civilians, including one child, have been killed in a French missile strike in the northeastern of the war weary country. Local Afghan officials said that six civilians were also wounded in the attack that occurred in Dolat Khel in Kapisa province on Monday. Witnesses told Press TV the French missile hit a car that was carrying local traders. Food and water runs out for Marjah civilians http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/food-and-water-runs-out-fo\ r-marjah-civilians-1906495.html (FEMA New Orleans to seize land for developers, 20,000 troops to 5000 remaining residents, and Haiti terminator capitalist invasion to occupy oilgold deja vu, Faluja white phos and attack ambulances and hospital) --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: Muckbit, Do you have a date for Gen. Petraeus' firewall? There has been a general firescreen, filtered news. It would be telling if related to current northern actions. And source? Tried Wash Post, but can't navigate. Trying to separate 'normal' screen from 'other'. You indicate this is 'other' but when is question. Thank you, Michael
Re: [cia-drugs] ANTI - TANK DOGS !
Thank you, Akif et al. Re: standard war dog: You are looking for 1 year old Doberman or German Shepard VERY well loved. So if either of those breeds, well loved and need to sell the Army will give serious look and good price. Some basic training, not much. Goes through basic-- most cut there. Then we are talking about many months of training. Serious training. If told to keep quiet one bark would give your position and kill you. Often there is a need to warn noiselessly. Not always. They must be able to hide, and hide well quickly on command. And of course attack. Though big difference between Dobies and Shepards is that a Dobie will go to sure death and a Shepard will not . Still fairly equal in the long run. Just matter of preference. Mercenary buddy pinned down in Nicaragua. They spent nearly ½ hour just watching their war dogs ears.., (a dobie). Then crawled to escape toward the area that the ears never pointed. Dobie took homemade C-4 landmine and lost leg. Friend kept him, many years with a 3 legged dobie. But the first point was the most important. They must have been VERY loved that first year. If you are in the business of killing and not being killed then love is the key. m Anti-tank dogs, also known as dog bombs or dog mines, were hungry dogs with explosives harnessed to their backs and trained to seek food under tanks and armoured vehicles. By doing so, a detonator (usually a small wooden lever) would go off, triggering the explosives and damaging or destroying the military vehicle. The dogs were employed by the Soviet Union during World War II for use against German tanks. The dogs were kept without food for a few days, then trained to find food under a tank. The dogs quickly learned that once released from their pens, food could be found under tracked vehicles. Once trained, the dogs were fitted with an explosive charge and set loose into a field of oncoming German tanks and other tracked vehicles. When the dog went underneath the tankwhere there was less armourthe charge would detonate and damage the enemy vehicle. According to Soviet sources, the anti-tank dogs were successful at disabling a reported three hundred German tanks. They were enough of a problem to the Nazi advance that the Germans were compelled to take measures against them. An armoured vehicle's top-mounted machine gun proved ineffective due to the relatively small size of the dogs and the fact that they were low to the ground, fast, and hard to spot. Orders were dispatched that commanded every German soldier to shoot any dogs on sight. Eventually the Germans began using tank-mounted flame-throwers to ward off the dogs. They were much more successful at dissuading the attacks, but some dogs would not stop. In 1942, one use of the anti-tank dogs went seriously awry when a large contingent ran amok, endangering everyone in the battle and forcing the retreat of an entire Soviet division. Soon afterward the anti-tank dogs were withdrawn from service. Training of anti-tank dogs continued until at least June 1996.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: FW: Chicago Is a Dark Pool Of Political Corruption | Judicial Watch
I filed a RICO suit in fed court where one of the defendants was a top U.S. Attorney General in another district, (and state). He was the head of Criminal Division. Amazing the case stayed in court that long. Remember visiting US DOJ office E.Dis Vir and having the entire office, perhaps 30 people all looking at me while pretending they were not. Spilling coffee. Papers unnoticed flying out of the Xerox..., etc. Years pass. I am more blase about it. Things get tied up in the process. What goes round returns bound. m Minnesota has a blatantly un-US-constitutional anti-American censorship law that I sure would daze and mystify readers. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman hartmanmar...@... wrote: Re: [cia-drugs] FW: Chicago Is a Dark Pool Of Political Corruption | Judicial Watch [8 Attachments] Operation Gambat was one of the more recent FBI investigations into Chicago corruption. Minnesota is every bit as bad, infected with the Chicago mob since the days of Meyer Lansky. Unlike Chicago; however, we cut deals and established something called the O'Connor System and set up a cozy relationship with organized crime. During the smoke and mirrors investigation into the BEARCAT Hollow front operating outside of Rochester I uncovered a transnational money laundering operation. I took the information to the FBI and was SA David Price (RO-retired) said he knew about the OC here but the city, county, state, federal and local officials with Mayo and IBM cut a deal in the late 60's so OC can operate here with impunity as long as they don't whack anyone within city limits. I thought he was joking, but it appears he was not. We have never had a corruption probe of public officials in this state, and when Representative Dan Severson suggested cleaning out our corrupt judiciary he was wished good luck - the system here is too corrupt to fix. In the case I handed to the FBI, the case the FBI couldn't make; a county attorney admitted to taking a bribe, and the court record reflects a District Court Judge willfully breaking the law and allowing the fleecing of Minnesotan's in order to continue cash flow to an operation that was KNOWN to be criminal. When civil rights of the residents of Racine were violated the FBI yawned. When innocent citizens were charged with crimes they didn't commit the FBI looked dumb-founded. Data-mining, destruction of evidence, withholding of evidence, fabrication of evidenceall proven and well documented were ignored. Matters were taken to Federal District Court Justice Ann Montgomery, the same judge who sat for the smoke and mirrors trial of Ken and Nancy Kraft, and the same judge who dismissed the charges against one Craig Perry lest his trial reveal the putrid mess that is Mower County court/law enforcement. Judge Montgomery dismissed the civil rights claims, an act called, bewildering given the mountains of fact based evidence you have to support the allegations. (Martin Carlson, MN AG's office) When her dismissal was appealed, the court file (according to the clerk in St. Louis) disappeared from the record. After 7 months there was no word and so the clerk was notified and said, This is all really bizarre. I've never seen anything like this before. I'll check into it and see what is planned. She never could find anyone to answer her questions but said the file was for some reason, being pulled. The average amount of time for an Appeal in St. Louis Federal Court is 5 months. 12 months and 10 days after the Appeal was filed, a decision arrived at my home and at the home of another victim of our corrupt government, Clyde Boone. This date just so happened to coincide with my birthday. There was no discussion, and only a reference to another case. We looked the case up and realized that the individuals in Minnesota's Justice system, the same who pulled the file from scrutiny by the District Court, had mailed this from Fergus Falls, MN with a citation that said we were A pain in the ass. Tim Pawlenty, current Governor of MN, wants to be President. He has asked super-lobbyist and past head of the National Endowment for Democracy, Vin Weber, to help with his campaign. (See Phillip Agee's articles on NED and it's funding of coups with CIA/USAID.) The corruption in Minnesota, long protected by the FBI, has allowed infiltration by the CIA and other forces and they want to follow in the Chicago way and take this dog and pony show to Washington. ~M --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Kris Millegan roads...@... wrote: From: Kris Millegan roads...@... Subject: [cia-drugs] FW: Chicago Is a Dark Pool Of Political Corruption | Judicial Watch [8 Attachments] To: c...@... c...@..., c...@yahoogroups.com c...@yahoogroups.com, cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 5:00 PM -- Forwarded Message From:
Re: [cia-drugs] Gen. Petraeus Firewalls Greater US Casualties Afghanistan
Muckbit, Do you have a date for Gen. Petraeus' firewall? There has been a general firescreen, filtered news. It would be telling if related to current northern actions. And source? Tried Wash Post, but can't navigate. Trying to separate 'normal' screen from 'other'. You indicate this is 'other' but when is question. Thank you, Michael
Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
Good, great..., far more balanced now. I am tired by the time I get to email. lol. Thanks, m dear michael1, Thank you It is critical we process critically, rather than get lost/misdirected; what about the following?: Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American law-enforcement? http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/ Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative discovery (unless such immunity be expressly waived.) It also appears to mean that Americans who get arrested on the basis of Interpol work cannot get the type of documentation one normally would get in the discovery process, which is a remarkable reversal from Obama's declared efforts to gain due process for terrorists detained at Gitmo. Does the White House intend to treat Americans worse than the terrorists we've captured during wartime? === related: http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands Section 2(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable. === *** This Guy Really Digs In ;-): Nudge, nudge folks⦠This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it. Letâs look at the section from Executive Order 12425. Obama Executive Order Cedes US Sovereignty, Citizen Rights to Interpol http://www.worth-reading.com/2009/12/obama-executive-order-cedes-us.html thanks # can we please try deal with your 'modulated corruption authority' proposal, After the Obama Executive Order Amendment thingk, Please!? ;-) (sometimes my brain gets so busy it starts to overheat, and everythingk starts to melt meld confused me thingks, dear friendO!) Cognitive-Dissonance as the way of being, Welcome to the future now, Soylent Green ;-) ifin ya knows whatta means? ;-) - Original Message - From: micha...@midcoast.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 10:33:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state? Okay, see your point, I move too fast. Okay, I read again and read new site too.. There are most likely other issues, not named, such as is InterPol becoming a Mossad front? Perhaps. InterPol like Mossad is 95% Benelux anyway. I still donât see a giant problem as law reads. For example by rules of procedure if anything used against a US citizen in court then access to records could not be used unless other party had access. Granted the US is a police state. Few can see the extent. Part of this is necessary though, but much not. I know that picky sounds icky. About 1994 I met a German lady in a restaurant on Cape Cod. She asked me out of the blue, âDonât you Americans realize that you are living in a police state?â I answered that I realized we are a police state but that most donât and wonât. In some utopian state spying might not just be legal but be esteemed. But here the patriot game is still played, even heavily in alternate media. At times it helps me to think about the implications of Richard Wagnerâs opera: Das Rheingold. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Rheingold It still remains that for greater security spying is still necessary. Or, in other words, in life-on-lifeâs-terms, spying is both necessary and illegal. In the Opera the Rhein maidens can hand out the golden ring. The âGolden Ringâ is the ring of power. It is necessary for power to operate. Power must have critical knowledge. You can see why spy organizations are always referred to as âringsâ. You canât have a simple back and forth. A large âinner tubeâ must be organized so what goes around one way can check on what goes around the other. Now and then people complain about âsubmarinesâ in prisons, particularly the âmaxâ fed prisons like Marion, Ill. This is where a few prisoners are given whatever they want. Nice suite, drugs, womenâ¦, whatever. Yet this MUST be. How could trust develop unless those caught in bad biz, as bad biz is needed, get fixed up when caught in the wiz. When you think about it the necessity of protecting these âunpatriotic spiesâ is the same necessity that with âgolden ringâ we exempt spouses from testifying against each other. Ainât perfect, but thatâs life. dear michael1, rather than us getting lost/misdirected via the ever downward-spiraling cognitive-dissonance of 'broad-stroke' posturing as to 'what is proper posting', in lieu of embracing the more precise accountability we supposedly seek ... can we instead please begin by addressing
Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
Thank you so much for the links. I read them. The links show that the immunities are limited. It does not give any sort of blanket protection from law. Even your congressman is exempt from certain arrests, this was so that his horse and buggy would not be stopped by others wanting to block his vote. The InterPol is far less than this and involves records. The articles are painting with too broad a brush. Without protection of sources, (one of main reasons), not only would they be ineffective, (as in who could trust), but organizations would not give natural check-n'-balance to each other. (Reason why FBI offices are, at least on paper, independent.) The 'Police State' headline is a horror. Police state there is. These broad brushes are not helping. m http://www.justice.gov/usncb/ International Organizations Immunities Act. http://www.ipu.org/finance-e/PL79-291.pdf Just What Did President Obama's Executive Order regarding INTERPOL Do?December 30, 2009 http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American law-enforcement? http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/ - Original Message - From: micha...@midcoast.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 4:14:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state? I too was going to mention that the U.S. placed under international police-state? sounds like writer does not understand. Granting those types of immunity helps all of us. They are limited to InterPol operations. In no manner does it allow InterPol to be exempt from general US laws. Here average-Joe only benefits. Alternate media often jumps into things it does not understand. Michael Donovan You know what InterPol is? And how it functions? And what it does? On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM, homepu...@comcast.net wrote: Subject: U.S. placed under international police-state? *U.S. placed under international police-state* *?* In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein Obama placed the United States of America under the authority of the international police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full immunity to operate within the United States. On December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order Amending Executive Order 12425http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425. It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other International Organizations as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945. http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestatehttp://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner%7Ey2009m12d26-US-placed-under-international-policestate Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
Okay, see your point, I move too fast.
Okay, I read again and read new site too.. There are most likely other
issues, not named, such as is InterPol becoming a Mossad front? Perhaps.
InterPol like Mossad is 95% Benelux anyway. I still dont see a giant
problem as law reads. For example by rules of procedure if anything used
against a US citizen in court then access to records could not be used
unless other party had access.
Granted the US is a police state. Few can see the extent. Part of this
is necessary though, but much not. I know that picky sounds icky. About
1994 I met a German lady in a restaurant on Cape Cod. She asked me out of
the blue, Dont you Americans realize that you are living in a police
state? I answered that I realized we are a police state but that most
dont and wont.
In some utopian state spying might not just be legal but be esteemed. But
here the patriot game is still played, even heavily in alternate media.
At times it helps me to think about the implications of Richard Wagners
opera: Das Rheingold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Rheingold
It still remains that for greater security spying is still necessary. Or,
in other words, in life-on-lifes-terms, spying is both necessary and
illegal. In the Opera the Rhein maidens can hand out the golden ring.
The Golden Ring is the ring of power. It is necessary for power to
operate. Power must have critical knowledge.
You can see why spy organizations are always referred to as rings. You
cant have a simple back and forth. A large inner tube must be
organized so what goes around one way can check on what goes around the
other.
Now and then people complain about submarines in prisons, particularly
the max fed prisons like Marion, Ill. This is where a few prisoners are
given whatever they want. Nice suite, drugs, women
, whatever. Yet this
MUST be. How could trust develop unless those caught in bad biz, as bad
biz is needed, get fixed up when caught in the wiz.
When you think about it the necessity of protecting these unpatriotic
spies is the same necessity that with golden ring we exempt spouses
from testifying against each other.
Aint perfect, but thats life.
dear michael1,
rather than us getting lost/misdirected via the ever downward-spiraling
cognitive-dissonance of 'broad-stroke' posturing as to 'what is proper
posting', in lieu of embracing the more precise accountability we
supposedly
seek ... can we instead please begin by addressing the following
previously
sent to thee:
Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American
law-enforcement?
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
(as such appears salient question as to 'Police State' issue, and at least
directs us back to subject issue)
===
regarding:
('It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new
level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select
U.S. placed under international police-state?'}
I agree, the article's author presents such problematically vague/broad,
lending itself to be ridiculed and misdirected from a more precise review
understanding of what Obama's Amending Executive Order 12425 might
actually 'Mean'/do/become/be? ( but It DID catch our attention! ;-)
btw, Be careful your Own 'broad approach' does not hypocritically continue
the problem of misdirecting from a more critical examination of the
specific
subject issue: Obama's Amendment To Executive Order 12425
(also btw, a new level of full diplomatic immunity appears to present a
bit doublespeakish: *new-level OF full* ;-) ifin ya knows whatta means?
---
some lively discussions examining subject issue here (also, see additional
related links, futher below)
Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands
http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
lively comments/discussions follow article
===
now, regarding concept/condition of:
(if/when/whether U.S. has-been/will-be placed under international
police-state)
what criteria shall we use to define/gauge if/what/when such constitutes
itself, if not already?
With that context in mind, it appears we might most agree with your
following statement:
michael1 wrote:
Police state there is.
;-)
note ~ (perhaps Obama's Amendment To Executive Order 12425 appears to
merely
'compliment' Reagan's initial Op? ;-)
kinda a frog-boil kinda thingk ;-)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425
Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands
http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
lively comments/discussions follow
Obama gives Interpol free hand in U.S.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obama-gives-Interpol-free-hand-in-U_S_-8697583-80291137.html
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Re: [cia-drugs] Atomic Obsession
Homepulse, Sorry, when I get to this stuff I am so tired and dont express myself well. It is a complex subject not because of the logic but because of the programming. I am stating that John Mueller is incorrect : wrong. There were two days between Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In that period http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer Oppenheimer made a speech at Los Alamos. At first he was very upset noting that the bomb was so easy to make. Then he became very upbeat stated that the device would put an end to war. When you think about this it is very true. What would happen if even a nuke was threatened? So secret agreements were made between the nuke nations and those who soon would be. This started a serious game of lying. First the secret agreements were covered over by the nuke nations continually holding meetings as to how agreements could be made without ever an intention of making an open agreement. (Richard Pearl was even quoted joking as to this.) We need be clear about the difference between counter value targets and counter force targets. Value targets are those that are psychological images to the enemy such as targeting an icon such as Statue of Liberty or simply civilians themselves as we did in bombing raids over Germany leaving the British Air Force to take the higher casualties as their counter force targets, (gun factories such), had to be flown in daylight. Almost always, even when much of the target is counter force, the greater impact with nukes is counter value. (Up to a point counter value targets can have the reverse of the intended effect. This has often been noted with simple bombing. The use of a nuke would have the correct counter value effect as public would do anything to stop this.) This might even simply be a problem with definitions. The greatest threat is now from groups that would want to use nukes to destroy an ideology such as capitalism. (Target Wall Street, etc.) They would want the masses to see that under any circumstances the state attacked should change. They would not want to use a weapon that could be stated as not being a weapon such as scalar or biological. You cant say a mushroom cloud and massive fallout was some sort of accident. These groups would need to have the wherewithal to obtain uranium on their own. They would not be so foolish as to even test the black market in this area. Obtaining uranium is far easier than the mainstream media allows. The most common tool for mining is the simply jackhammer and can be hidden in some construction type projects such as road or bridge building. Because the West controls much of the world with simple bribery and labor is cheap, there are many areas where this could be done. However, I am defining State terrorism as that where the heads of states are aware of the specifics. Here some with enough bribe money on their own, of own initiative, would be smart enough to keep the state out of the loop. Refining uranium is also simpler than media allows public to understand, a centrifuge is a centrifuge is a centrifuge. More confusing is that much of media defines terrorist groups or non state aligned terrorist groups as those groups that are inside intel known anyway. The greatest threat is from the unknown. And with those unknown groups both the means and motive are available. Hope this makes it clearer. Again the background play is: http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/aspyintime.htm Hello Michael, so that I may better understand learn, would you please help to clarify the following: are you expressing that John Mueller is correct regarding: the likelihood of a terrorist obtaining a nuclear device and using it against the U.S. is far smaller than most people think. Yes, regarding the 'terrorist' referenced by the Media for the 'usual-suspect' false-flag patsy propaganda agenda, But No, regarding The State 'Terrorists' (whom present a Larger likelihood of obtaining a nuclear device) Which are not the 'terrorist' John Mueller is referencing, and the Media do not reference as such, but in fact misdirect from via 'referencing'/blaming those patsy 'terrorist' / usual-suspects, that John Mueller must be obviously referencing . Do I understand you correctly? Thanks - Original Message - From: micha...@midcoast.com To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:26:47 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Atomic Obsession It has been admitted that real nuclear attack is becoming more probable than ever before. During most of the Cold War there were secret agreements. Most 'terrorists' are major intel groups concocted. 'Rogue states' would be dumped on in a heartbeat if they even thought of a nuke. But real terrorists who would be 1- smart enough not to identify with any particular state, 2- would obtain the uranium themselves not try to buy on black market (most common tool is the jackhammer and can
Re: [cia-drugs] Atomic Obsession
It has been admitted that real nuclear attack is becoming more probable than ever before. During most of the Cold War there were secret agreements. Most 'terrorists' are major intel groups concocted. 'Rogue states' would be dumped on in a heartbeat if they even thought of a nuke. But real terrorists who would be 1- smart enough not to identify with any particular state, 2- would obtain the uranium themselves not try to buy on black market (most common tool is the jackhammer and can be disguised in simple projects like roads or bridge work, 3- the 'hard-to-process' bull is just for the public i.e. a centrifuge is a centrifuge. Here: http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/webnukeletter.htm Notice as per first paragraph that Adm. Keeting called off terrorist nuke exercise shortly after the letter (as it was posted on Rumor Mill News) had 14,000 readers within a few days. Why? He was giving away too much. My understanding is that there was a 'terrorist nuke exercise' eventually held but 99% under cover. Atomic Obsession video 09.11.11: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/id/216291 John Mueller argues that our decades-long fear of a nuclear attack has been unwarranted and that the likelihood of a terrorist obtaining a nuclear device and using it against the U.S. is far smaller than most people think. Professor Mueller took up these topics in his latest book, Atomic Obsession. He spoke about the book at the University of Missouri in St. Louis.
Re: [cia-drugs] Volcker: Obama pissing off the Oligarchs?
Mein Kamph is suddenly selling well in the Third World mainly through economic departments of universities. The dollar strength is not in manufacturing nor in commodities. It is in ownership of processes, experience with technology. That is nothing small. Chavez understands this and this is why he is saying the auto industry cannot continue to keep ownership of invention. It will even out. Good is still good. We have our troops quietly toss made in USA junk weapons and carry AK-47s. The 47 is the year. 1947. Write it. I'm going to write an article on this. What says't all of thee? Ok, so after World War One, the Allies forced reparations on Germany. Germany was basically forced to pay about 100 times the amount of money that actually existed in the entire world at that time. LOL. So what did they do? They printed it up out of nothing and said, HERE YOU GO BITCHES. DON'T SPEND IT ALL IN ONE PLACE. This was called the Weimar Hyperinflation. Hitler brought in Hjalmar Schacht to knock about 8 zeros off the Deutch Mark and called the new currency a Reich Mark. So, what does this have to do with Obama? Simple. The Wall Street/City of London Finance Oligarchy want to repudiate our (our) foreign debt with China (and foreign debt in general) through this very same hyperinflationary method. The dollar would be destroyed, the debt would be paid off via the printing press, and they would bring in the new Euro-style regional currency, the Amero. But Volcker will NOT do that. LOL. Volcker is the guy who was Fed Chair before Greenspan. Carter stuck him in there, and the dude promptly HALTED the excessive monetary creation of the 70s. I mean it was radical. Rates went WAY the fuck up. Well guess what. We're right back to doing that same type of shit, and Obama (who is very similar to Carter in many ways, even works for the same people, the Trilateralists under Brzezinski) is bringing in Volcker as an economic advisor! Bernanke said, If all else fails, we can print out money and drop it from helicopters. Seriously. Google Helicopter Ben. What he meant was that they can use their organized criminal connections to siphon money into the economy. But the bottom line is that Greenspan and Bernanke were HYPERINFLATIONISTS. Volcker is the diametric opposite of that. LOL. Holy shit dude. KEEP AN EYE ON PAUL VOLCKER. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/volcker-revolution-providing-some-much-needed-answers The Volcker Revolution - Providing Some Much Needed Answers Just who is this Paul Volcker who will now be the President's seemingly primary economic advisor, and more importantly, what will his policies be like? Luckily, an extensive blueprint already exists, and Zero Hedge readers should be quite familiar with it by now.
Re: [cia-drugs] FW: Will Oliver Stone's Secret History Expose How the Bush Family Financed Hitler?
How well we used McCarthy!!! McCarthy was right! Of course the Army had to work with the commies. Nukes are nukes. But the public would be horrified. We used McCarthy to put the mass mind in a vice. If you went too far left you were called a commie. However, if you called those at top commies for needing to work with commies then you were called a 'McCarthyite'. The perfect vice for the perfect vice. Hitler..., perhaps Stone will show us why Mein Kampf is suddenly selling so well in economic departments of Third World universities. An understanding of Stalin might show us why we HAD to, (and still have to), support Israel. Knowing exactly why Mao was the 'odd man out' between Stalin and Truman might make us understand the present focus on Indonesia. And might make us pay more attention to Admiral Blair. Good for Stone. Might be a small step but at least it is in the right direction. -- Forwarded Message From: dasg...@aol.com dasg...@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:00:22 EST To: Robert Millegan ramille...@aol.com Cc: ema...@aol.com, j...@aol.com, jim6...@cwnet.com Subject: Will Oliver Stone's Secret History Expose How the Bush Family Financed Hitler? January 09, 2010 http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/oliver-stone-history-america.html Oliver Stone's 'Secret History' to put Hitler 'in context' http://reporter.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451d69069e2012876be446a970c-popup TCA http://www.thrfeed.com/tca/ -- Director Oliver Stone's upcoming Showtime documentary miniseries Secret History of America promises to put mass murderers such as Stalin and Hitler in context. Stalin, Hitler, Mao, McCarthy -- these people have been vilified pretty thoroughly by history, Stone told reporters at the Television Critics Association's semi-annual press tour in Pasadena. Stalin has a complete other story, Stone said. Not to paint him as a hero, but to tell a more factual representation. He fought the German war machine more than any single person. We can't judge people as only 'bad' or 'good.' Hitler is an easy scapegoat throughout history and its been used cheaply. He's the product of a series of actions. It's cause and effect ... People in America don't know the connection between WWI and WWII ... I've been able to walk in Stalin's shoes and Hitler's shoes to understand their point of view. We're going to educate our minds and liberalize them and broaden them. We want to move beyond opinions ... Go into the funding of the Nazi party. How many American corporations were involved, from GM through IBM. Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated. The controversial director's 10-part documentary series for Showtime http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/08/oliver-stone-presenting-secret-history-of-amer ica-.html promises to focus on events that at the time went under-reported, but crucially shaped America's unique and complex history of the last 60 years. Subjects in History include President Harry Truman¹s decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japan and the origins of the Cold War with the Soviet Union. You cannot approach history unless you have empathy for the person you may hate, Stone said during the show's trailer, which promised to put historical villains in context. I don't want to put out conventional History Channel product where it's easy to like it. He's not saying we're going to come out with a more positive view of Hitler, emphasized professor Peter Kuznick, the lead writer on the project. But we're going to describe him as a historical phenomenon and not just somebody who appeared out of nowhere. Stone said that conservative pundits will dislike the show. Obviously, Rush Limbaugh is not going to like this history and, as usual, we're going to get those kind of ignorant attacks, said Stone, who also also compared the experience of sympathizing with war criminals to making his W movie about George W. Bush. I'm trying to understand somebody I thoroughly despised. Stone also warned that the same military industrial complex forces that he's explored in movies such as JFK and in Secret History, are now corrupting Barack Obama. You can understand why Obama is following in Bush's footsteps in Afghanistan, Stone said.Obama is very much trapped, we believe, in that system. And so that's what we're going to try and show you -- the way it works. -- End of Forwarded Message
[cia-drugs] The Crescent and the Star: part III:
The Crescent and the Star: part III: Military: Islam, the fastest growing religion, holds the most strategic military areas: the key Malacca choke point, the African Horn, and much of the areas that either hold present or future oil as well as the coming world bread basket. All military actions are becoming more determined by the social settings. This was one of the main points of General Charles Krulaks retirement speech, The Strategic Corporal. Not only does low tech trump high tech, as in the AK-47 trumping the cruise missile, but high tech at this point can have unexpected negative PR. Videos of what the out-of-danger drone operators see as they fire missiles are now floating all over the Internet. In some you see the last seconds of humans trying to run for their lives from cars as they hear the drone approaching. Bloody war was thought neatly tucked away in the dishwasher with the Cascade. Being drawn and quartered seems, compared to those last seconds, almost nice. Emotionally many see those flying body parts, and the imagination of Internet viewers, as one would look down upon the Coliseum as Christians were thrown to the lions. And that martyrdom no small factor, (most likely decisive factor), in the Christians soon taking Rome. The drones break not only international boundaries but also rules of engagement. Bottom-drawer tech combos of mere grappling hooks, AK-47s and duct-tape patched Evinrudes now tie up much of above-equator navies. The more what is held in reserve is also held back to, (just-only), be a question , then the more powerful a factor the question itself becomes. Seabed-missile, rogue torpedo, and mine have morphed into one hydra hybrid as close as the nearest Toys-R-Us or PC. Regulars can scream unsymmetrical as loud as the Redcoats screamed about those hiding behind stonewalls and as loud as knights screamed about the longbow. And with the same result : littoral to the coral. Military logistics was the power of the West as it babbles on that the untrained talk strategy while the pros talk logistics. That has been thrown to the wolves and the drones and the lions as the West now fights on far too many fronts. All the explosions in the no-lines of the Hindu Kush are not as powerful as one sneeze in Karachi. Africa collects as slowly and as strongly as the Prophet did in Medina. As safety in Africa equates with arms military tactics often precede Islam. The winners often act Islamic way prior to converting. Rebellion has spread not only into Eritrea but also well into Ethiopia. Kenya, once one of only a few unarmed places in Africa, now has well armed rebels well into eastern areas. Juba quiets and collects. Kampala may, with Museveni, still Sow The Mustard Seed but the office by necessity becomes more effectively Inman than statesman. Juba sees the long term. North, over the Aden Gulf, Bab El Mandeb may still mean terror but the land is trumping the sea. Sanaa cooks a one-ingredient stew: money. Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh in anger yells at the US dont come in as Admiral Mullen yells back in anger, we wont come in. This anger is as soft as the money is hard. It is now more openly realized that there is no northern border between Yemen and Saudi Arabia. Sanna is like a log cavalry fort in the Old West with only one weapon against the Apaches: money. As the English did in India the Wests main tactic is to pay off one tribe to ruthlessly control the others. Not as sure when all tribes are armed. But money is money and as was oft the case in India the paid off would only play a game giving an occasional wrong head and smilingly pocket the cash. But the poor with the guns increase in number. But in Islam control with money is against the main tenants of the religion. The forts logs quickly rot in that sand. Yet even with a possible slow rot in any war of attrition the party that can most afford to wait will win.
Re: [cia-drugs] First Post to CIA-Drugs -- my background
Dear Captain May, Wow, you certainly have a story! Welcome. I was going to write my story. I half completed a book but saw that all the wrong people would be hurt. I put it aside. Years later a visiting Australian lady saw the first part and said I should put the early part about my upbringing into the form of a play as it already read like one. I finally did a few years ago: A Spy In Time. I was a child at the time but remember the planning for Americas near second use of atomic weapons at the end of April 1954, Operation Falcon. According to Richard Nixon the plan involved the Joint Chiefs of Staff drawing up plans to use 3 small tactical nuclear weapons in support of the French. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Vulture That was some years after as Ike was president in 54. I was a child and the talk, to my memory, was either one or two bombs. But it was then that I understood that we had, (and have), secret agreements about non-use-of-nukes brokered by Luce first with Joe Stalin. Within a short time we started using the fairly new Israeli Mossad as a combination KGB/CIA and other nuclear power intel agencies to keep the secret deal honest. It is only human that such would get out of control. The problem is that at this point we dont have anything to replace it with. But this is also why the Third World, (through Turkey), is starting to suggest that the world needs a new and different world organization. The play puts these complexities in more simple terms as it is viewed from the perspective of an eleven-year-old child. When I put it on the Internet it had 14,000 viewers in the first week. I have become more optimistic over these issues over time and no longer play the us vs. them game. I am sensing that time will soon force us all together. A Spy In Time is here: http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/aspyintime.htm At any rate : Welcome. Michael I've been on a mission of conscience since 2003, with the outbreak of the illegal Iraq war. A month ago my publisher at the Lone Star Iconoclast published a story on my earliest actions: Captain Courageous Witnessed: Dr. Kelly Assassinated! http://www.lonestaricon.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=340:captain-courageous-witnessed-dr-kelly-assassinatedcatid=47:the-trenchwalker-by-w-leon-smithItemid=83
[cia-drugs] Crescent and the Star. (Part I)
Crescent and the Star. (Part I) Most understand that the symbol of, and the meaning of, the crescent in Islam have nothing to do with anything religious. But few in the West understand the giant crescent meaning in the war tactics of the highly precise hordes of the Mongols that were transferred to the Ottoman Empire. With horde organization a decimal system was used: 10 in an Arav, 100 made a Zuut, 1000 at Minghan and 10,000 a Tumen. A horde was 2 Tuman that corresponds in number to the older concept of our army division. Unlike todays standard military the hordes required tactics that demanded that the average cavalry soldier perform many duties and work in ways that took abilities that could only be started in childhood. The crescent was a deceptive form of attack that ended in a crescent shape that suddenly reversed. This general type of deception can be found in such Boer War battles such as Spion Kop and Colenso but with nowhere near the precision of a trained horde. I cannot think of any human endeavor that worked with such precision as the horde. Training was so complex that you had to start as a child. Calvary would each have 3 to 4 mounts as with the continual maneuvers they would wear. It was like non-stop barrel racing with turns that had to remain at gallop as much as possible as precise arrows could only fly in that 1 to 1 1/4 second that all hoofs would not touch the ground. Not even in sending men to the moon had so many minds had to work collectively together with such precision as in a horde crescent development. The crescent shape was formed when the enemy advanced and begun to think it breached the center. When the precise crescent shape emerged the counter began and the enemy would not expect it nor expect that the points of the crescent could ever outflank in the manner that they did. I now see all of Islam forming a crescent. Though this crescent can be viewed militarily it also uses economics. Played into with some cheer this war could move to a gentle tit-a-tat with all sides and issues benefiting. But here the entire world is involved, most unknowingly!!! Many are now referring to the Seth Material and his prediction through Jane Roberts that the next large religious drama would begin in Indonesia. I jumped right into the question of which island: Java, Sumatra or Borneo. Perhaps I jumped the gun, (or here bucked the scimitar), when I should have started more generally and slowly and with some building up. In other words more of a process. (Indonesia is the only area of Islam never directly built by hordes. Start in the beginning and that will come.) This could turn into a wide discussion that many could play into. For example I see, by Icelands economic trials in Reykjavik is now one of the crescent horns or points. Something that once started anyone can add to like an open game of scrabble. While the world plays monopoly the scrabble game will trump. Argentina is the other horn for whatever icon Argentina will beg cry for them only toward the end will they cry for themselves. End part one: Michael Donovan
[cia-drugs] The Crescent and the Star: part II
Many accuse the powers-that-be of orchestrating a war between the West and Islam. It is true that there is some orchestration in that area, false flags and all. However this same conflict is also an interior final showdown deeper than the present powers would have imagined or wanted. It is at core a world-mind psychological showdown: the integration of the worlds mass mind. Violence is being rejected by the worlds mass mind but in steps designed to unify. The origin is within the inner/unconscious/hidden mass mind. Although the numbers of small conflicts as at times increased the overall casualties have steadily decreased. Anyone can go to the lists of names of the fallen and see graphically by list size the steady decrease from WW I. In WW II the Americans lost more men in one month in the Battle of the Bulge than the number of uniformed boots-on-ground that the US presently has in Afghanistan. With this the real increasing threats of violence, and as much demonstration as needed to show threat is real, will go hand in hand with the decrease. Here starts a list of overall trends that must be considered: Military, female-social, social, and economic: 1- Military: Militarily low tech is trumping high tech at an unstoppable rate. In the most expensive war game ever, prior to the Second Gulf War, General Paul Van Riper played the Iraq/Iran enemy and by using low tech sunk most of the American fleet. He maxed the low tech giving orders that no form of electronic communication was allowed. All communication used such things as mirrors, flashlights, and cycle carriers. Much of the gadgets in the swarm attack that goofed the radar of and sunk the US fleet can easily be obtained at Toys-R-Us. In simple terms the Kalashnikov now trumps the cruise missile. 2- Female-social: It is axiomatic that the world feminizes at the equator. This does not so much as soften military action as much as make it far more tricky. As the power of the southern hemisphere moves up the factor will quickly dominate the north. 3- Social: On the whole Islamic culture provides inner social values that will far more easily withstand coming military and economic changes. Western values are primarily based on economic principles that cannot last in the coming age. Though this is the area that will be resisted by the West in the psychological/social arena it is also this same resistance that will form the crescent that will be the Wests undoing. 4- Economic: There is the slow but unstoppable realization that the world must choose between letting go of growth economy or committing mass suicide. With this there is the duel seemingly opposed trends of economic centralization and self-sustaining areas that will merge into an organic and continually morphing stew. Each of these four areas needs to be broadened out. Michael
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Colla Walla or drug smug?
Thank you, Bob. I don't know as much as you about the specifics. I was worried as I could see a plan of getting all addicted , legal or illegal. Michael. Sorry. That's what I thought you said, as far as poppy growing in Australia proper, not Tasmania. Reading the Doug Valentine book, trineday.com, Strength of the Pack, about the DEA, Valentine says that in the days of the FBN 1920-40, the morphine and heroin were produced legally in European labs and the ethnic mafias including Chinese tongs were only inserted at the distribution level as cut-outs in the US. I don't think other countries need to salute US schizophrenic neo puritan madness. Just grow poppies everywhere, grow flowers instead of nukes, bypass US war on this and that but not really. Grow a poppy in the windowbox to medicate the boys over there when they come home with all the flesh stripped off their bones by HMX liberated along with the poppies to make it a war and bloody the bully, solving the image problem for perennial war. We have fields of poppies blooming in highway medians, and if they aren't blooming, we have lots of bright lights in New Cholon City, and discos and gyms for the boys over here. Those are only sterile terminator poppies and boys and gyms though. Don't drop weights on the floor there because we should stay estrogenized, constipated, and paranoid. Flowers, yes, reality, no, not here. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: Bob, I was thanking you for posting that information. I will repeat what I said, Muckbit, Thank you ever so much!!! So 'Hillbilly Heroin' is heroin- just some tricky botany and some good lawyers. Wow. This needs to be passed around. There is legal poppy for pharma, (but seems too much). The original BBC of wallaby in Australia still does not come up, is replaced by Tasmania. (Still don't understand that.). So regular Heroin type poppy is legal only with special permission. But an alternate poppy is legal, (bypasses restrictions), but a special process with this produces ocycontin. And the answers to your questions are 'no'. I was only thanking you for that information. m Michael, putting words in my mouth backwards is two strikes (unpredicated fake inference and then internal cross-wiring). If you are actually being tendentious as well, as far as boosting off of your false inference and plus your cross-wired internal reversal, in order to then over arch us with your choice of strategic catch-all, then that would be three strikes since you had no basis in anything I said. Try quote for quote as repartee next time. Let the little toys meet each other on the table. I posted quotes without comment, therefore no inference is possible as to whether I stated or implied that wallaby poppies are Papaver somniferum(morphine) or P. bracteatum (hillbilly heroin, oxycontin, only presently sourced candidate for Michael Donovan's wallabilly heroin). Do we have that clear now, Michael? Beyond that, your second leap was an instance where of your mind simply crossed up internally one time. As we get older that is an early sign that we need to be more careful what we eat. It appears that Michael Donovan believes that some of the Australian poppies are Papaver somniferum. Is that fair? Michael Donovan believes that more poppy is being grown in Tasmania than would be allowed under international medical quota. Is that fair to say? Would Michael like to say that Australia proper is growing some poppies, as well as Tasmania? He may have said that originally. Bolivia has legal and illegal coca growing areas which used to reflect political bases in each, as Colombia has a de facto legal growing status for rightwing paramilitary areas controlled by US School of the America graduates competing with nominally leftwing coca guards who invest in clinics and roads and not in Wall Street, if what we read is all we should believe. The official stories contain the notion of all Australian poppies being grown behind a moat, as it were, on an island, rather than on the continental island of Australia proper. -Bob The office line is that --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, michael1@ wrote: Muckbit, Thank you ever so much!!! So 'Hillbilly Heroin' is heroin- just some tricky botany and some good lawyers. Wow. This needs to be passed around. m http://www.google.com/search?q=australia+opium http://www.marathon.uwc.edu/political_science/opiumprod.html With over-production of licit opium by Turkey and Australia (which is technically not permitted to grow poppy under international conventions), India reduced its licensed acreage from 63,000 to 11,000 hectares. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8118257.stm (June 25 stoned wallabies story) http://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/08/news/08iht-poppy.t.html Australia is arguing that it should be given
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Colla Walla or drug smug?
or they are sprayed with treatments to change them, from producing morphine to producing thebane. These plants do it naturally so we're very excited about this and think there is enormous potential for us and also the farmers that grow with this. A mystery solved « Waterloo Idler 6 hours ago by Gavin Anyway, what the Australian farmers on Tasmania have found is that wallabies occasionally get in to the opium fields and eat the poppies. Apparently after a while they begin to act strangely and hop around in circles before falling down ... http://preacher35.wordpress.com/ Mystery Solved: Blame trippy Skippy « Randomness and Waffle 14 hours ago by Ali Australian wallabies are eating opium poppies and creating crop circles as they hop around as high as a kite, a government official has said. Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, said the kangaroo-like ... http://randomnessandwaffle.wordpress.com/ Deepen the Conversation: Black Opium Symposium 12-3-2009 by i...@... (qtix Box Office) Black Opium Symposium A groundbreaking book inspired one of Australia's most distinguished indigenous artists, Fiona Foley, to create a complex, powerful and immersive public artwork: Black Opium. After reading Rosalind Kidd's. http://www.qtix.com.au/rss/index.aspx Sustaining opium reduction in Southeast Asia | Australian Policy ... 8-16-2009 by paitken 17 August 2009Since 1998 opium production in Southeast Asia has declined by some 67% from 1437 tons in 1998 to 469 tons in 2007. The area under cultivation has also declined by over 80% from 158230 hectares to 29200 hectares during the ... http://apo.org.au/ 'Stoned wallabies make crop circles' My Blog 6 hours ago by admin -like marsupials were getting into poppy fields grown for medicine. She was reporting to a parliamentary hearing on security for poppy crops. Australia supplies about 50% of the world's legally-grown opium used to make morphine ... http://www.thesharingparadise.com/ --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, michael1@ wrote: Colla' Walla or drug smug? Australian wallabies are eating opium poppies and creating crop circles as they hop around as high as a kite, a government official has said. Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, said the kangaroo-like marsupials were getting into poppy fields grown for medicine . This is from BBC `'Stoned wallabies make crop circles' at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8118257.stm This article is a repeat of a similar one. Though it is listed on hottest of BBC's read-list it is not even listed on the Internet drop list and buried on the Asian-Pacific area page. Why so hot? Why so hot even when so buried? Is it the funny part or the not so funny? Now this in New York Times. Was on front page: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/health/12medicaid.html?hp (quote) Poor Children Likelier to Get Antipsychotics New federally financed drug research reveals a stark disparity: children covered by Medicaid are given powerful antipsychotic medicines at a rate four times higher than children whose parents have private insurance. And the Medicaid children are more likely to receive the drugs for less severe conditions than their middle-class counterparts, the data shows . (unquote) Putting these two stories together you can see how illegal drugs and pharma have combined to addict as many as possible illegally or legally. What are kids doing on antipsychotics anyway? Seems mostly for being noisy and for being kids. Easier when they sit stoned in front of the TV. Other Wallaby story showed too much grown for just morphine. Leads to questions that we don't want to ask ourselves such as: 1-Laws don't work. Medicine is controlled. What does work? Only change in public attitudes--- but how? Must think in terms of general public.., Joe-six-pack. 2-So many complain about illegal drugs being the money to support inside international CIA-type security operations. I say `CIA-type' as CIA and KGB were combined in early fifties with other nuclear powers to form inside security to secret non-use-of-nuke deals. Same op is security for anything else now up to nanotech. These activities cost. How else would you fund? Seriously. This is facing life on life's terms, not relying on dreamy platitudes. If this were to seriously be replaced you might need to start with throwing out political `isms'. This is not undoable with the masses, but difficult. Example from another conversation: There was talk about CIA Director Adm. Stansfield Turner when he tossed knuckledraggers. Adm. Turner somehow got the mad idea that he could rely entirely on technology, i.e. `listening devices', and therefore did not need `humtel' human intelligence
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Colla Walla or drug smug?
Muckbit, Thank you ever so much!!! So 'Hillbilly Heroin' is heroin- just some tricky botany and some good lawyers. Wow. This needs to be passed around. m http://www.google.com/search?q=australia+opium http://www.marathon.uwc.edu/political_science/opiumprod.html With over-production of licit opium by Turkey and Australia (which is technically not permitted to grow poppy under international conventions), India reduced its licensed acreage from 63,000 to 11,000 hectares. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8118257.stm (June 25 stoned wallabies story) http://www.nytimes.com/1995/11/08/news/08iht-poppy.t.html Australia is arguing that it should be given better access to the U.S. market...Australia, which started its commercial opium poppy industry in 1970, is already the world's largest legal producer http://www.abc.net.au/ra/innovations/stories/s2443748.htm for 20 years was the world's biggest poppy producer until 2004 when it was overtaken by France We're investigating a very exciting crop for us which is called Papaver bracteatum. So the normal poppy that is grown around the world is called Papaver somniferum and that's an annual crop. With this crop we're doing some trial work on is a perennial crop. So we plant this once and we expect to get three to four years out of the crop. It has benefits to farmers in that it's a more robust poppy species and you don't have the risk of germination each year once it's established. The other key difference between this poppy and the normal poppy is whilst the normal poppy Papaver somniferum is very high in morphine. This poppy does not have any morphine at all in it. It is high in a different alkaloid called thebane. And since the early 90s, thebane has been commercially of interest as it's used for a lot of the other products for pain relief such as Oxicodone. But also interestingly, a lot of the products that are actually used for opiate substitution treatments, such as Bupremorphine, Naloxone and Naltrexone are other products that are obtained from thebane. And this poppy is a very high-yielding thebane, much higher than the standard poppies which are either genetically altered or they are sprayed with treatments to change them, from producing morphine to producing thebane. These plants do it naturally so we're very excited about this and think there is enormous potential for us and also the farmers that grow with this. A mystery solved « Waterloo Idler 6 hours ago by Gavin Anyway, what the Australian farmers on Tasmania have found is that wallabies occasionally get in to the opium fields and eat the poppies. Apparently after a while they begin to act strangely and hop around in circles before falling down ... http://preacher35.wordpress.com/ Mystery Solved: Blame trippy Skippy « Randomness and Waffle 14 hours ago by Ali Australian wallabies are eating opium poppies and creating crop circles as they hop around as high as a kite, a government official has said. Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, said the kangaroo-like ... http://randomnessandwaffle.wordpress.com/ Deepen the Conversation: Black Opium Symposium 12-3-2009 by i...@qtix.com.au (qtix Box Office) Black Opium Symposium A groundbreaking book inspired one of Australia's most distinguished indigenous artists, Fiona Foley, to create a complex, powerful and immersive public artwork: Black Opium. After reading Rosalind Kidd's. http://www.qtix.com.au/rss/index.aspx Sustaining opium reduction in Southeast Asia | Australian Policy ... 8-16-2009 by paitken 17 August 2009Since 1998 opium production in Southeast Asia has declined by some 67% from 1437 tons in 1998 to 469 tons in 2007. The area under cultivation has also declined by over 80% from 158230 hectares to 29200 hectares during the ... http://apo.org.au/ 'Stoned wallabies make crop circles' My Blog 6 hours ago by admin -like marsupials were getting into poppy fields grown for medicine. She was reporting to a parliamentary hearing on security for poppy crops. Australia supplies about 50% of the world's legally-grown opium used to make morphine ... http://www.thesharingparadise.com/ --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: Colla' Walla or drug smug? Australian wallabies are eating opium poppies and creating crop circles as they hop around as high as a kite, a government official has said. Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, said the kangaroo-like marsupials were getting into poppy fields grown for medicine . This is from BBC `'Stoned wallabies make crop circles' at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8118257.stm This article is a repeat of a similar one. Though it is listed on hottest of BBC's read-list it is not even listed on the Internet drop list and buried on the Asian-Pacific area page. Why so hot? Why so hot even when so buried? Is it the funny part or the not so funny? Now this in
[cia-drugs] Colla Walla or drug smug?
Colla Walla or drug smug? Australian wallabies are eating opium poppies and creating crop circles as they hop around as high as a kite, a government official has said. Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, said the kangaroo-like marsupials were getting into poppy fields grown for medicine . This is from BBC 'Stoned wallabies make crop circles' at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8118257.stm This article is a repeat of a similar one. Though it is listed on hottest of BBCs read-list it is not even listed on the Internet drop list and buried on the Asian-Pacific area page. Why so hot? Why so hot even when so buried? Is it the funny part or the not so funny? Now this in New York Times. Was on front page: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/health/12medicaid.html?hp (quote) Poor Children Likelier to Get Antipsychotics New federally financed drug research reveals a stark disparity: children covered by Medicaid are given powerful antipsychotic medicines at a rate four times higher than children whose parents have private insurance. And the Medicaid children are more likely to receive the drugs for less severe conditions than their middle-class counterparts, the data shows . (unquote) Putting these two stories together you can see how illegal drugs and pharma have combined to addict as many as possible illegally or legally. What are kids doing on antipsychotics anyway? Seems mostly for being noisy and for being kids. Easier when they sit stoned in front of the TV. Other Wallaby story showed too much grown for just morphine. Leads to questions that we dont want to ask ourselves such as: 1- Laws dont work. Medicine is controlled. What does work? Only change in public attitudes--- but how? Must think in terms of general public.., Joe-six-pack. 2- So many complain about illegal drugs being the money to support inside international CIA-type security operations. I say CIA-type as CIA and KGB were combined in early fifties with other nuclear powers to form inside security to secret non-use-of-nuke deals. Same op is security for anything else now up to nanotech. These activities cost. How else would you fund? Seriously. This is facing life on lifes terms, not relying on dreamy platitudes. If this were to seriously be replaced you might need to start with throwing out political isms. This is not undoable with the masses, but difficult. Example from another conversation: There was talk about CIA Director Adm. Stansfield Turner when he tossed knuckledraggers. Adm. Turner somehow got the mad idea that he could rely entirely on technology, i.e. listening devices, and therefore did not need humtel human intelligence operatives. First thing was that thousands of humtels simply went off reservation to the other side for jobs. No biggie, a job is a job. At higher levels there is no off reservation. To put that in another frame realize that spying must be legal in the real world but has only remained illegal because with the masses the patriot game works and other games dont. So we lie. We level, we compartmentalize, we paste confused-grin over knowing-smirk. To a great extent this is a psychological exercise. The upper chit-chat now is the Red Book, the book that was written by Carl Jung that his family would not allow published until 2001 as it would have made him look a bit whacky. (A new copy is $114.00 bucks!) In the Red Book he states that the ultimate process is your own inward venture. But mine seems to go in two areas. One is the nice-nice talk of new-age. Many of these things I believe in. Another is real world horror. I have seen first hand the horrors of crack and how evil it is that we foster that on Blacks but only cocaine on Whites. But trying to fix that is asking to be permanently fixed yourself. Life on lifes terms means life has its own terms. I hear 'CIA and drugs', sob sob..., 'CIA and drugs', sob sob So what is the real solution? In other words: I am just seeing what happens when I switch icons. Where do you get in the zone? m
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Georgia and South Ossetia War Photos and Links
Interesting connections. A good friend was on a CIA scholarship. Ho Chi Minh was a busboy at the Parker House near the Common when he went to Harvard. There was a mention of MSU and former president of Liberia in prior post. Dont see how that could be Taylor, he was a Mass drug dealer and only many ever to escape from the Plymouth County, MA jail. m Wife of South Vietnam's dictator/President Diem, as an MSU cheerleader, with green garb and white pompoms...When MSU invited Iraqi war strategist Condoleeza Rice to deliver its commencement address on May 7, the cheerleader image was resurrected. The cover of Lansing's popular alternative weekly City Pulse featured Condi Rice as a giddy MSU cheerleader on May 5th Local workmen beware, do not take money from these rich drunken whores unless you have police clearance to discredit yourselves. Yes, Michigan State U received a lot of attention from Hilaire du Berrier in his Vietnam book, manuscripted in 1950's already, called Background to Betrayal. MSU trained the Diem-Nhu fascist police state, to the extent it had not already been trained by Ed Lansdale's curious choice for head of all Vietnamese police, Phan Ngoc Thao, brother of Ho Chi Minh's right hand man, and son-in-law of a communist professor, son of the head of the Viet Minh, and himself the former head of Viet Minh police. Lansdale knew how to run a security check. McPherson of MSU? Check. Must be another international secret society plot to loot us anew. McPherson is documented at the first link as being a radical neolib-neocon on the model of Milton Friedman. See Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine. McPherson talks about shocking out Iraq and privatizing away their marvelous functioning oil socialism which just worked, in favor of idealistic mayhem that still does not work in terms of basic services they had in Iraq before, not to mention millions, literally millions, of educated professionals such as doctors have left Iraq never to return, thanks to the US and McPherson. McPherson will not, apparently, come to the defense of David Wiley, MSU's Director of African Studies who has taken the courageous stance of fighting an attempt by Republicans to force African Studies departments to accept military intelligence and CIA funding as part of the Title VI language and area studies grants...McPherson was Reagan's USAID chief from 1981 to 1987[USAID fronted CIA lat am death squadding in Guatemala] Yes, truly a dangerous man, literally a death squadding threat to democracy, free elections, and equality under law. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Mary Hartman hartmanmar...@... wrote: Hi Bob, Pull these up and read them. I found them while looking up things on Bruce Atwood and McPherson. These explain alot about the subversion of the U of MN since these two are bosom buddies. Articles tie McPherson, who is a Clinton liberal, to both Bush's as well. I used to get bogged down with the labels: Democrat/Republican. Guys like McPherson move seamlessly between them all, exploiting, looting, subverting wherever he can to make a buck and destroy lives. He's a dangerous man. Condi Rice salutes war president, It's not who - The Free Press ...In May 2003, after President Bush came calling, the MSU Board of Trustees released McPherson to serve 130 days, to oversee the economic restructuring of ... www.freepress.org/departments/display/20/2004/705 - CachedWho is Michigan's Empire Man? Big Ten University - The Free Press ...August 18, 2003 I think this must be heaven, Peter McPherson told the State News ... One of the few MSU faculty to publicly criticize McPherson is Lewis ... www.freepress.org/departments/display/20/2003/327 - Cached --- On Wed, 12/9/09, muckblit muckb...@... wrote: From: muckblit muckb...@... Subject: [cia-drugs] Georgia and South Ossetia War Photos and Links To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 10:00 PM  Lots of links to follow in blog below these pics. Explosives seem to improve like other technologies. Soros, Cheney war, even while Soros was sounding so liberal and supporting Obama. Cheney was over there agitating during the Republican National nominating convention. I'm going back and follow links later. Just ran into this while looking for LSD torture of al-CIA-duh lab monkeys. http://lsd-25. ru/2008/08/ 14/voyna- v-yuzhnoy- osetii-89- fotografiy- arkadiya- babchenko/
Re: [cia-drugs] CIA Heart Attack Gun?
Hit with electronic LSD developed by Astronics. In light amounts it is like some pot. In fact that amount tried by Tip ONeal in part of demonstration. In larger amounts it is freaky but only really upsets if you are not prepared. Naval Intel did this to me after interrogation the night of April 13th, 1984. I gave three names, Pavlita, C.W. Cho, and Kozyrev. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Aleksandrovich_Kozyrev I had paperwork on the first two but not on Kozyrev. The way it works the first time you relax you get major high. Set and setting is everything so I freaked big time. It was turned up. On either May 8th or 9th buried in the back of the New York Times was an article on a Sergi Koslov, a Soviet mathematician visiting Pasadena in some sort of exchange program. The same methods were used on him. This was the guy who later also freaked at Dullas claiming CIA was trying to mind control him. Shrinks brought in, etc. The interrogation was taped by Navy with my knowledge and permission. Seems that I slur a bit and my spoken Kozyrev was mistaken for Koslov. I did not give a first name. TASS had a fit. First and only time, (not including ultrasound waves at embassy deal), that I ever heard of wherein one major power accused another of mind control. We were obliged to print the accusation in our major media. There have been a number of times that I sensed this device was used in jury tampering. Once was in the Reagan Secretary of Labor RICO trial: Raymond Donovan http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/24/nyregion/mistrial-rejected-in-donovan-case-despite-protests.html?pagewanted=all Not upset anymore. In fact under circumstances it was nice I was not whacked. Michael Donovan http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m11d29-CIA-secret-weapon-of-assassination Check Out the CIA Heart Attack Gun, De-Classified in 1975, Mentioned on the Show! Click Here For the Story CIA secret weapon of assassination
Re: [cia-drugs] Did the CIA's Afghan mujahideen operatives shoot down TWA Flight 800 in July 96
Where did this come from Few Flight 800 facts: 1- SEALS seen in standard rubber boats in impact area early morning prior to shootdown. This from Commander Donaldson Dentist group. 2- Perry et al on Fire Island initially identified naval ship as fitting a British frigate. 3- 100s saw the missile go up and hit the plane. 4- About 100 also swear they saw the shootdown right on CNN that morning, a video. Just as many swear they were watching CNN all during that time and saw no such thing. Who was right? Both. It was cable. 5- About two weeks prior fighters escorting commercial flights out of Miami. The only thing that the facts fit is a payback for infraction of secret international agreement concerning non-use-of-nukes. As in point 3 above, a little more sting had to be agreed to. Not too much to give away, just enough to cause some problems. m Did the CIA's Afghan mujahideen operatives shoot down TWA Flight 800, on July 17, 1996? The settling of Afghan-trained mujahideen in the Balkans began around 1992, when recruits were brought into Bosnia by the ruling Islamic party of Bosnia, the Party of Democratic Action, from Chechnya, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, as well as Italy, Germany and Turkey. From 1993 to 1995, money, arms and expertise flooded from the United States to al Qaeda military networks in Bosnia-Herzegovina -- all under the watchful eye of Gen. Michael V. Hayden -- then chief of U.S. military intelligence in the region as director of the U.S. European Command Intelligence Directorate, with a headquarters based in Stuttgart, Germany. Hayden's name has been linked repeatedly to allegations that the American government provided arms and other support to al Qaeda-linked militants inside Bosnia. Hayden accompanied U.S. envoy Richard Holbrooke on a trip to Croatia in November 1994, during which Holbrooke told the Bosnian government that the U.S. would encourage third-party countries to make covert shipments of arms and supplies for the use of al Qaeda's Bosnian network, in violation of a U.N. embargo. The official representing Bosnia at the November 1994 meeting (in which Holbrooke gave explicit approval to violations of the embargo) also sat on the board of a Vienna charity funded by Osama bin Laden. That charity the Third World Relief Agency directly shipped arms from the Sudan to Bosnian militants and also sent more than $40,000 in cash to the New York terrorist cell responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Arms also came from Sudan and Iran to mujahideen forces fighting on behalf of the Bosnian government. The shipments included weapons, ammunition, uniforms, helmets, new anti-tank weapons and Stingers, according to the Dutch intelligence survey. Source: May 8, 2006 http://intelwire.egoplex.com/hayden-bosnia.htm http://intelwire.egoplex.com/hayden-bosnia.htm TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747 blew up off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996. See more about this below. In January 1999, NATO bombed Serbia and Kosovo for 78-day which killed hundreds of people in hospitals, schools, churches, parks and television studios, and destroyed economic infrastructure. Bombing these places is a war crime. The Kosovo Liberation Army, an Albanian paramilitary organization supported by NATO, was used to exacerbate ethnic tensions in Kosovo in order to legitimize a NATO intervention. This conflict occurred in the context of broad Western, particularly U.S., objectives in the Balkans. NATO bombing of Serbs was an undeclared US war and a war crime The KLA acted as a ground force for NATO, drawing out Serbian forces so that NATO air command could target them. The Times reported that U.S. intelligence admitted its linkages to the KLA. The CIA had provided the KLA with arms and training. President Bill Clinton's special envoy to the Balkans, Robert Gelbard, described the KLA as, without any questions, a terrorist group. The Serbian government also reported that the KLA had killed and kidnapped no fewer than 3,276 civilians of various ethnic descriptions including some Albanians The former chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia in the Hague was Carla Del Ponte. Carla Del Ponte, published her memoir The Hunt: Me and War Criminals. This book reveals unpalatable truths about the West's intervention in Kosovo. Under pressure from Washington and London, an investigation into NATO war crimes at this tribunal, were scrapped. The justification for the NATO bombing was that the Serbs were committing genocide in the secessionist province of Kosovo against ethnic Albanians. The truth was that the Kosovo Liberation Army killed the Albanians. There was sufficient evidence to prosecute the Kosovar Albanians for war crimes, but the investigation was nipped in the bud The Hague judges were terrified of the Kosovar Albanians--the
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: The Administration Guts Its Own Argument for 9/11 Trials
Of the motels you have stayed at over the last 20 years or so what % do you think were run by Pakistanis? Why Remember John Walker in East Ocean View in Norfolk. What was he allowed to do? m The big picture of this type of self-corruption is that by using these high pressure shunts to pragmatism, all the Jack Bauer 24 we're the good guys let's John Wayne the evil incarnate terrorists with a lynch mob, the end result is looking out at the whole world with the same eyes and then we judge and jury millions of civilians to die under our wmd. Somebody makes money. We go on with those closed eyes thinking we're being pragmatic John Wayne against real bad guys. Nobody notices how many civilians we're killing. The argument against looking at how many civilians we're killing is that we have to kill one or two consummate bad guys, we absolutely have to, so whatever, ignore the collateral damage. That's only about profits. Domestically we kill a scapegoat now and then, but again, we trash a lot of innocent or nearly innocent people. Domestically that would take the form of non-violent drug-related crime. The high profile scapegoat always has to be alleged the sole perpetrator. That's part of the hypnotism. He has to be killed without really being proven guilty, or being proven guilty by lies, even if he was guilty, and then he has to be the sole perp, though that is NEVER true in these high profile show trials! Somehow that is part of corrupting people to carry on and judge and sentence thousands or even millions of civilians to die in Indonesia, Palestine, Lebanon July 2006, Iraq DU and white phosphorus, latin american death-squadding. If we can kill one man without a good trial and lying that he was the sole perp, then we have passed the psychological point of reference to do the dirty deeds for profit of a few all over the world. John Muhamed was some kind of bad guy but he was juiced in Virginia on the basis that the bullet went into the big hole and there was no small hole, but there was. He was placed at the scene of the crime by a woman perjuring herself to say that she saw him at a gas station a mile away. That is all just a measure of how corrupt we are and to what extent we have signed on for more mad nazi atrocities worldwide. Apparently we have passed the test again! Here we go! I would like to see it go the other way with KSM in NYC. He killed Daniel Pearl. He really did plan WTCbomb the FBI(Salem ci) operation. If everything about Pak ISI and CIA and FBI running all the ops including killing Pearl that would take things back the other way. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, John Stroebel john.stroe...@... wrote: They were arrested by OUR COUNTRY and illegally at that. They were denied ALL RIGHTS and were abused and tortured like we were Nazis. It was decided to try them. SINCE WHEN IS THE USA AGAINST TRIAL BY JURY? TO be so is COMPLETELY Unamerican. So since they are being tried in the USA THEY ARE ENTITLED TO ANY DEFENSE OF THEIR CHOOSING. Or do you wish to go against our Constitution? On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:01 PM, ruxpert homepu...@... wrote: *The Administration Guts Its Own Argument for 9/11 Trials*http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/20 November 20, 2009 by Salon.com Glenn Greenwald commentary: http://www.911blogger.com/node/21922 === *NYC 9/11 Trial Will Shine the Lights on the Roots of Terrorism*http://www.alternet.org/story/144014/ By Ray McGovern, Consortium News Posted on November 17, 2009, Printed on November 21, 2009 http://www.alternet.org/story/144014/ commentary http://www.911blogger.com/node/21923 == Lawyer: 9/11 Defendants Want Platform For Viewshttp://www.911blogger.com/node/21932 http://www.911blogger.com/node/21932http://www.911blogger.com/node/21932 -- *video:* *Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed - The War on Truth* http://www.911blogger.com/node/16232 == Trial of the Century the Long Shadow of 9/11 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/47871 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/47871
[cia-drugs] Good news.
Sherri Sullivan, member of Families of Lost CIA, wins her case. This is the second case won. In the first she gets almost a million. Now, in the second, it is 21 million and she is already starting to get paid. This came about with help of Senator Collins of Maine member of both the Homeland Security Committee and the Armed Forces Committee. God bless Collins! Sherri's dad was sheepdipped and 'under identity'. Though a high rank in military he was transferred to just a private in army for mission. When he went missing military claimed no knowledge. Others came to Sherri's help and got papers showing he was in service and took it to Senator Collins. All back insurance with 30 years interest etc. paid..., that was first case. Second was against Cuba as her dad died under torture. Cuba did not go to court case. Monies will be paid out of funds held back from Cuba after Bay of Pigs. I know Sherri and some others involved. Wow..., this is a heart warming story. All Sherri ever wanted was her dad's remains so she could bury him. m
[cia-drugs] Limitations of this list....:
Okay, now I see. Thanks, Bob. I might as well get off my chest two limiting horrors I sense about this list. Horror # one: The giant limitation created by misunderstanding what/who CIA is in relation to drugs. CIA is something that, even though it operates all over the world, is associated as being American controlled. It is not. A former head of the CIA, (William Colby), was murdered for stating over and over that the international drug cartels were now more powerful than any government. (Our assassin was a young kid, foreign, about 18 great swimmer who freaked out when he read in papers the next day whom he killed. Google Kay Griggs for more.) CIA is only a part. Between the bombs going off in Nagasaki and Hiroshima Oppenheimer made a speech in Los Alamos stating that the bombs were easy to make and that the world must end war. To counter this and control the masses secret deals were made not to use nukes. To keep such secret deals honest there had to be some sort of structure. The newly formed Israels Mossad was used as a combination of KGB and CIA and agencies of other powers that openly had nukes. Many close references to this. Both Russia and China are more reluctant then and now in this agreement and stick only to the letter. This is why Irans actions are seen as open defiance. It is defiance to the secret group that CIA is only a part of. See also: http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/aspyintime.htm Of if the link does not take on the list then just google A Spy In Time and it will come up first. Not understanding this is causing some real danger here. First of all many in alternative media are becoming prejudiced against the Jewish people or even Zionism. Most of the Jewish people do not know of what I said here. Many on this list are above average in intelligence and dont live in areas of the US that are more prone to acting on prejudice. We are not talking about political correctness but real possibility of violence. We need understand that the Jewish people have been used and that even most of them dont know that they are nor why. Horror # two: The giant misunderstanding created by limiting the concept of what drugs are. About the year 1000 a monk outside of Rome wrote a paper in Latin that was passed around the world. He stated that the best way of controlling populations was to use lightly addictive drugs. This was the paper that a few hundred years later formed organizations such as the East India Tea Company. They were already into the more heavily additive drugs. Opium is not new. Most Americans have been taught that men went out to a more dangerous sea to engage in the spice trade. Sure. They would go out on water without even compasses and risk their necks just for some f***ing oregano? Today, thankfully, one small mammal showed the full extent of what drugs are. The mammal was a drug-stoned wallaby. It happens that stoned wallabies are funny as hell to watch when stoned out on opium. They jump straight up and down with a weird expression. A youtube of a hysterically stoned wallaby goes all over the Internet jumping up and down in an opium field. With this it gets out worldwide the giant extent of the opium fields in Australia, hundreds of thousands of thousands of acres. With this it is stated that the pharmaceutical companies for experimentation and a bit of morphine own the giant acreage. Plausible if you are half asleep and even then but barely. However this would cause a problem if Taliban, as they did before, outlawed opium production and sowed waving fields of grain. This is why they are moving the opium production north in Afghanistan and outlawing it only south. They are preparing to move the opium to Turkmenistan. This is why the sudden interest in Baku, other side of the Caspian but close enough. You cannot limit the concept of drugs by seeing some as legal and others as illegal. Or some misuse as of the legal, (medications), and some of illegal. Diseases are now created such as ATD to create drugs such a ritalin. Psychiatrists are forced into the position of just prescribing drugs and can only survive economically by doing four patients per hour in this manner. The diagnostic rules and categories have been altered with this in mind. Bit by bit psychiatrists are being forced into the position of becoming just like your local crack dealer. This is one reason why now, as a category, they have the highest rate of suicide. Our troops are now being given happy pills by the bottle. They dont even need to go to a medic. Sarge has them. Therefore there is not even a suggestion of dosage control. These happy pills all have withdraw symptoms. Legal or illegal? What is the real difference? None. But the pills get four or five tours out of the troops so then they can be misdiagnosed as anything but PTSD by the VA and tossed on the street. And the wallaby shows us that the same companies control both
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind
Below John S. asked: Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth? I am in a coffee shop in Maine, USA. I have wonderful friend who describes himself as a knuckledragger- one who for 30 years had to go all over the world and do the sick things that the CIA thought up. Now has the biggest heart I have ever seen. We are talking but about nothing very inside, just current events talk of day. We are just some old men. But two very young girls, about 20 years old, keep staring at us and whispering to themselves. Felt strange. Then one comes over and asks where we are from. We say, From here- Maine. She sort of frowns and goes back and starts whispering again. They keep listening and it is a bit uncomfortable. Finally they come over. They happen to be two foreign students that had been at a photography studio in Rockport for the last six months. They were from opposite sides of the world, one from Beirut and the other from Mexico City. They said that our simple conversation amazed them as it was the, (quote), First conversation that they had heard in six months. They said that they had, Stopped talking to Americans because talking to Americans is useless- impossible. Why? Because Americans dont know anything. They blamed this on TV. I have had a number of older people state the impossible: that they have been seeing Chemtrails since jets first started flying. Impossible they started at the max about 15 years ago. What would make someone say such a thing? Reasoning, of course. They simply figure that if there was anything unusual about chemtrails the TV would have told them. TV trumps reality. Baku is big talk everywhere except the USA. This aint no backwater. Baku not only has its own subway system but it is almost half the size of Bostons subway system. Why cant you talk about this in America? Because few if any know where or even what Baku is. Why will Baku become opium city? How did one small mammal, the size of a rabbit, make that happen?. m IMO  9/11 was to a great extent, a psychological operation. Our sense of security was undermined and so when the President took a proactive stance and loaded up battleships for the trek to Afghanistan, we felt psychologically more secure.  When we got over the shock of the big lie and started noticing the fact that the government's dots didn't connect, we did begin to stand up and scream. But as always, we have been ignored and we will continue to be ignored because the accountability is too great for too many powerful people and we do not, historically, hold them to the same standard.       --- On Sat, 11/14/09, John Stroebel john.stroe...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Stroebel john.stroe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:12 AM  One question: Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth? On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, ruxpert homepu...@comcast. net wrote:  and the '911Commission' was a misdirection/ Obstruction of Justice device, not even tasked with finding guilt/WhoDid911?  The most immedieate prime crime of Obstruction of Justice Continues!  Who Did 9/11?  We Need To Know! http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/LibertyBan dwagon/message/ 34638   ;-)  - Original Message - From: muckblit To: cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind I mean to say that last Tuesday, the DC sniper John Muhamed was executed in Virginia as a typical patsy who dies to end investigation of a larger government operation like JFK hit and OKCbomb. --- In cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com, muckblit muckb...@... wrote: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 47787 The 911 Commission report conceals the fact that both Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and Amed Omar Saeed Sheikh, KSM the mastermind and Saeed Sheikh the moneyman, both, are Pakistani. Additionally, the report leaves out the fact that Sheikh acted on orders from Pak intel chief Mahmud Amed http://www.google. com/search? q=saeed+sheikh+ pak+isi+mahmud KSM attacked the World Trade Center with a truck bomb years before 911. Daniel Hopsicker find more money coming from Lebanese, CIA, and Saudi sources in Florida. Although helping stage 911 for CIA, in exchange for quid pro quo of US liberating poppies from Afghan Taliban, Pakistan was not very involved in 911. Thus giving KSM the death penalty for 911 when he was not giving orders, while not prosecuting him for his role in FBI's WTCbomb false flag operation, ends up being a diversion by Eric Holder, especially if KSM and Sheikh are not being tried for the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal report Daniel Pearl. http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia-
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind
Bob, Not sure who the 'they' is that you are referring to below. Michael They speak better english, accent or no, and no doubt still read books in school. Maybe they have not had their brainwaves modified by tv and videogames and club drugs. You could not converse with Americans either for the same reasons. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: Below John S. asked: Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth? I am in a coffee shop in Maine, USA. I have wonderful friend who describes himself as a `knuckledragger'- one who for 30 years had to go all over the world and do the sick things that the CIA thought up. Now has the biggest heart I have ever seen. We are talking but about nothing very `inside', just current events talk of day. We are just some `old men'. But two very young girls, about 20 years old, keep staring at us and whispering to themselves. Felt strange. Then one comes over and asks where we are from. We say, From here- Maine. She sort of frowns and goes back and starts whispering again. They keep listening and it is a bit uncomfortable. Finally they come over. They happen to be two foreign students that had been at a photography studio in Rockport for the last six months. They were from opposite sides of the world, one from Beirut and the other from Mexico City. They said that our simple conversation amazed them as it was the, (quote), First conversation that they had heard in six months. They said that they had, Stopped talking to Americans because talking to Americans is useless- impossible. Why? Because Americans don't know anything. They blamed this on TV. I have had a number of older people state the impossible: that they have been seeing Chemtrails since jets first started flying. Impossible they started at the max about 15 years ago. What would make someone say such a thing? Reasoning, of course. They simply figure that if there was anything unusual about chemtrails the TV would have told them. `TV' trumps reality. Baku is big talk everywhere except the USA. This ain't no backwater. Baku not only has its own subway system but it is almost half the size of Boston's subway system. Why can't you talk about this in America? Because few if any know where or even what Baku is. Why will Baku become opium city? How did one small mammal, the size of a rabbit, make that happen?. m IMO  9/11 was to a great extent, a psychological operation. Our sense of security was undermined and so when the President took a proactive stance and loaded up battleships for the trek to Afghanistan, we felt psychologically more secure.  When we got over the shock of the big lie and started noticing the fact that the government's dots didn't connect, we did begin to stand up and scream. But as always, we have been ignored and we will continue to be ignored because the accountability is too great for too many powerful people and we do not, historically, hold them to the same standard.       --- On Sat, 11/14/09, John Stroebel john.stroe...@... wrote: From: John Stroebel john.stroe...@... Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:12 AM  One question: Why do you suppose Americans never stood up and screamed for the truth? On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, ruxpert homepu...@comcast. net wrote:  and the '911Commission' was a misdirection/ Obstruction of Justice device, not even tasked with finding guilt/WhoDid911?  The most immedieate prime crime of Obstruction of Justice Continues!  Who Did 9/11?  We Need To Know! http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/LibertyBan dwagon/message/ 34638   ;-)  - Original Message - From: muckblit To: cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: Eric Holder re: Alleged 9/11 mastermind I mean to say that last Tuesday, the DC sniper John Muhamed was executed in Virginia as a typical patsy who dies to end investigation of a larger government operation like JFK hit and OKCbomb. --- In cia-dr...@yahoogrou ps.com, muckblit muckblit@ wrote: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cia- drugs/message/ 47787 The 911 Commission report conceals the fact that both Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and Amed Omar Saeed Sheikh, KSM the mastermind and Saeed Sheikh the moneyman, both, are Pakistani. Additionally, the report leaves out the fact that Sheikh acted on orders from Pak intel chief Mahmud Amed http://www.google. com/search? q=saeed+sheikh+ pak+isi+mahmud KSM attacked the World Trade Center with a truck bomb years before 911. Daniel Hopsicker find more money coming from Lebanese, CIA, and Saudi sources in Florida. Although helping stage 911 for
[cia-drugs] Wantabe Wallaby Or Just Simple Dope?
Wantabe Wallaby Or Just Simple Dope? By Michael Donovan United States suffers from being the only industrial country without a general staff. It has killed our military. It has also shredded our economy. Now it has gotten to the point where the real inside military had to stand up to the administration. This has been occurring bit by bit in the years following Millennium 2000 and Lt. General Paul Van Riper. First real sign was the appointment of Admiral Dennis C. Blair as Director of National Intelligence. Certainly the Administration did not make that appointment. It was forced upon them, (thankfully). Then General McChrystal stood up and put reality to the Administration. A minimum of 8 more divisions would be needed or we should leave Afghanistan. This was put forth in harsh military terms following the military axiom that all war is based on this rule: you always send strong to weak- never weak to strong. We were sending weak to strong meaning that we either reinforce or leave. Truly reinforcing would mean reinstating the Draft and that would lead to an all out resurrection bigger than the 60s. McChrystal knows all the dirty inside information too. Seems that one silly animal, a wallaby, turned on an unexpected light.. When stoned wallabys go nuts, go hop-hop-hoppy-poppy and are funny to look at. They got stoned in poppy fields, this got on Youtube, and in a period of hours the entire world knows of the giant opium acreage in Australia. Officially the pharmaceutical companies own this acreage for testing and a bit of morphine. It seems obvious that the acreage is far too much for just that..., but what can you say? But what happens if we pull out of Afghanistan and the Taliban go back to growing waving-fields-of-grain and outlawing the hoppy poppy? Then the lid of hopped is poppy popped. Notice that opium is grown in the north of Afghanistan but not in the south. Why? They are preparing Turkmenistan as a backup. This is why all the sudden interest now in Baku, close enough to Turkmenistan but not in. Baku is no backwater. It even has a giant subway system. If the US finally went to giving the military a general staff it would straighten the whacked fascism to real working fascism. In order to keep soldiers in tour after tour they are now handing out happy pills with no restrictions. You dont even need to see a medic. There is no restriction on dosage so it is predicted that as many as half, (not less than 35%), will be suffering from PTSD. Much of this PTSD will be from simply trying to withdraw from the legal dope. It is also becoming more obvious that both the legal dope and the illegal dope are run by the same companies, (company). Would you not have PTSD? Why are no journalists allowed in either theatre? If they took any pictures the public would see that the troops have been quietly issued AK-47s. They dont want the public to see this though you can simply ask any coming home from either Iraq or Afghanistan. General Staff??? How many know what the 47 stands for? When the public finds out what the 47 really stands for they will see in horror the giant waste. Perhaps then the United States can have a general staff. Only the paid off Congress would suffer. Michael Donovan
[cia-drugs] AFRICOM letter re Muckbit's post:
(Note: I mailed this with that Kenya sentence in it just two weeks prior to Kenya suddenly blowing up. Just luck. I did not have a glue. -Michael) General William E. Ward Vice Admiral Robert T. Moeller Ambassador Mary Carlin Yates AFRICOM Dear Ambassador Yates, General Ward and Admiral Moeller, Permission to speak frankly as you three are in deep doo doo. You learned nothing from Lebanon? The militia was part of a female social organization the power of which surprised both the CIA and Mossad. The greater war for Africa looms. First we had the stupidity of Admiral Timothy J. Keating with his almost nuke terrorist exercise in Charleston, S.C. I posted letter to him on Internet prior (over 14,000 readers first week) and the exercise that would have given too much away called off. See http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/webnukeletter.htm But you go into deeper shit. Coastal meetings have taken place that starts the process of Africa working together as one country . It will: but not in that fashion. That is the outside. As Mao understood prior to his long march the interior is far more important. You continue to play sides against each other. It did not work in many groups / religions Lebanon and it will not work in Africa. Africa will collect from the inside. It will not be ordered. No, (at least visible), central command. Who will you be fighting then? Terrorists? Are a group of guys who shoot soldiers in the back when there is no declared war terrorists? Of course they are. It happened. They met later in a barn frightened that the government would come after them and hang them for treason. But a rider pulls up and informs them that a revolution is afoot. Ethan Allen names his group the Green Mountain Boys and continues. You did right when you set up a CIA listening post in Gulu (Christian Science Monitor). But you didnt listen. You wish to prosecute Joseph Kony. He was caught between the old Black Jewish sects of Ethiopia, Christians and Muslims. The Lords Revolution Army was: One God, Ten Commandments or we shoot you. Seems nonsensical until you realize that it is a common denominator that you dare not go past. So even if UN captures and hangs him after peace declared, so what? It was not that specific philosophy but the general concept that spread to Lebanon. As it will now spread (from inside out) in Africa. That seed is sown: the ground fertile. Admiral Moeller, You learned nothing from General Van Riper? First you overlook the sinking of the H.M.S Sheffield because only other navies (secretly our friends) could do such. And you held that view even after surprise Soviet naval maneuvers of 1984. Missiles better than that French missile can now be hid in the sand on the seabed. Woods Hole Oceanagraphic Hydrods can only detect metal to 3 meters. You even used platoons of dolphins off the Gunsten Hall. But you had to keep bringing in animal trainers because of dolphin boredom. You sent down divers over every point you saw a trawler stop in the Golf. Think that is enough? Attack on Cole and whatever was in Aqaba was inept compared to what is coming. John Lehman made a big point about loosing surface ships as sometimes necessary citing Midway. How many do you think you could afford to loose in this day and age, sir? You nixed the Land Attack DD 21 in favor of Littorals. All four are out of San Diego because of Malacca. Before you tried to protect that 1200 miles of shoreline with rubber boats and fifty caliber. Think this is better? You can bury effective missiles in the sand with launchers made from nothing but liquid vinyl and sawdust. About anything else you would need can be picked up at Toys-R-Us. Those Littorals are now only targets. General Ward, Sir, there is one thing you will never do here. You will never be able to define the battlefield. A non-military for intel? More shades of Rummy, sir? What is being shown as prime target? If Algeria example, it will be the UN. Of course. See play at link above. Ambassador Yates, Ahmadinejad states recently that he is holding another unspecified card re: nukes. What do you imagine this is? See also play at link above. Hedley Donovan was the best at naval intelligence in WW II. (Song from South Pacific, Happy Talk was tribute.) Once in Hawaii he had only a short time to locate Jap fleet. He puts out simple directive to spies on every island. They had to go down to the local bar and report the talk as either happy or serious, nothing in-between. With just this he located fleet at Leyte Gulf. In the same sense if you want to see what is connecting in Africa watch for those army Toyota pick-ups that have the most females with the soldiers (as Lebanon). But that wont even do. They will think of this also. I see just what you are doing. What I think about your present relationship with Kenya is unprintable. Perhaps some
[cia-drugs] Where biggest political party now called 'Pirates'...
.The Local - Sweden's news in English http://www.thelocal.se/email/91/5571/ 3rd July 2009 Hello, and welcome to The Local's weekly roundup of the news from Sweden. All the legendary glamour and pizzazz of the European roadshow arrived in Sweden this week with the country assuming the reins of the ambulatory EU presidency: http://www.thelocal.se/email/91/5571/eu2009/ As the capital fills up with dayglo delegates and bouncy bureaucrats, the carnival atmosphere in sweltering Stockholm is almost too much to bear.
Re: [cia-drugs] ACL's Non-Fiction Studies of Communitarianism
Norgeson, Whatever is going on? Links in Communitarianism do not work. Did hear of this and followed a link to George Washington University. But did not know of any association of something called The Third Way. In the mid nineties The Third Way was hot and many sites on Internet. This was for areas to have own government, sustainable and very adoptable to own area/problems. If there was any international organization it was only for a few international problems, population etc. The Third Way had things such as peek-a-boo banking where any aid to an area would be tracked on Internet to the penny, no possibility of corruption. Then, within a few years, say 1999 to 2001, all this wiped from Internet and replaced with another Third Way which seemed contrived on the spot to replace/bury the first Third Way. What is this? Do you know more? Michael Donovan
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: America's Africa Ambitions
(following letter sent just prior to violence in Kenya. Following letter also AFRICOM rejected by all African nations EXCEPT Liberia. You know Liberia, the nation where a recent president, Taylor, was the only person to ever escape from the Plymouth County, MA jail, drug dealer.) General William E. Ward Vice Admiral Robert T. Moeller Ambassador Mary Carlin Yates AFRICOM Dear Ambassador Yates, General Ward and Admiral Moeller, Permission to speak frankly as you three are in deep doo doo. You learned nothing from Lebanon? The militia was part of a female social organization the power of which surprised both the CIA and Mossad. The greater war for Africa looms. First we had the stupidity of Admiral Timothy J. Keating with his almost nuke terrorist exercise in Charleston, S.C. I posted letter to him on Internet prior (over 14,000 readers first week) and the exercise that would have given too much away called off. See http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/webnukeletter.htm But you go into deeper shit. Coastal meetings have taken place that starts the process of Africa working together as one country . It will: but not in that fashion. That is the outside. As Mao understood prior to his long march the interior is far more important. You continue to play sides against each other. It did not work in many groups / religions Lebanon and it will not work in Africa. Africa will collect from the inside. It will not be ordered. No, (at least visible), central command. Who will you be fighting then? Terrorists? Are a group of guys who shoot soldiers in the back when there is no declared war terrorists? Of course they are. It happened. They met later in a barn frightened that the government would come after them and hang them for treason. But a rider pulls up and informs them that a revolution is afoot. Ethan Allen names his group the Green Mountain Boys and continues. You did right when you set up a CIA listening post in Gulu (Christian Science Monitor). But you didnt listen. You wish to prosecute Joseph Kony. He was caught between the old Black Jewish sects of Ethiopia, Christians and Muslims. The Lords Revolution Army was: One God, Ten Commandments or we shoot you. Seems nonsensical until you realize that it is a common denominator that you dare not go past. So even if UN captures and hangs him after peace declared, so what? It was not that specific philosophy but the general concept that spread to Lebanon. As it will now spread (from inside out) in Africa. That seed is sown: the ground fertile. Admiral Moeller, You learned nothing from General Van Riper? First you overlook the sinking of the H.M.S Sheffield because only other navies (secretly our friends) could do such. And you held that view even after surprise Soviet naval maneuvers of 1984. Missiles better than that French missile can now be hid in the sand on the seabed. Woods Hole Oceanagraphic Hydrods can only detect metal to 3 meters. You even used platoons of dolphins off the Gunsten Hall. But you had to keep bringing in animal trainers because of dolphin boredom. You sent down divers over every point you saw a trawler stop in the Golf. Think that is enough? Attack on Cole and whatever was in Aqaba was inept compared to what is coming. John Lehman made a big point about loosing surface ships as sometimes necessary citing Midway. How many do you think you could afford to loose in this day and age, sir? You nixed the Land Attack DD 21 in favor of Littorals. All four are out of San Diego because of Malacca. Before you tried to protect that 1200 miles of shoreline with rubber boats and fifty caliber. Think this is better? You can bury effective missiles in the sand with launchers made from nothing but liquid vinyl and sawdust. About anything else you would need can be picked up at Toys-R-Us. Those Littorals are now only targets. General Ward, Sir, there is one thing you will never do here. You will never be able to define the battlefield. A non-military for intel? More shades of Rummy, sir? What is being shown as prime target? If Algeria example, it will be the UN. Of course. See play at link above. Ambassador Yates, Ahmadinejad states recently that he is holding another unspecified card re: nukes. What do you imagine this is? See also play at link above. Hedley Donovan was the best at naval intelligence in WW II. (Song from South Pacific, Happy Talk was tribute.) Once in Hawaii he had only a short time to locate Jap fleet. He puts out simple directive to spies on every island. They had to go down to the local bar and report the talk as either happy or serious, nothing in-between. With just this he located fleet at Leyte Gulf. In the same sense if you want to see what is connecting in Africa watch for those army Toyota pick-ups that have the most females with the soldiers (as Lebanon). But that wont even do
Re: [cia-drugs] Firestorm Brewing Between U.S. States and Federal Government
Dear Norgesen, Thank you for Firestorm Brewing Between U.S. States and Federal Government. This concept is getting both positive and negative reaction. I think both reactions need a deeper historical overview to grasp both the implications and the bigger picture this needs to fit into. Here is a negative one. THE ZIONIST PLAN FOR THE BALKANIZATION OF AMERICA Posted By: Il_Bagattel Date: Saturday, 21 February 2009, 11:33 a.m. (Quote) ...Exactly as the hyperdimensional Luciferians planned. Small feudal states (I believe the neurolinguistic name is breakaway republics), kept bickering among themselves and divided along socio-economic lines are much easier to control and rule. This is basic Machiavelli 101. (Unquote and I greatly shortened) He goes on to state a breakup of the US is all part of a horrid secret government plan. The negative view poster is also equating this sign of trend with balkanization. Though the specific I dont think directly referenced in Machiavellis The Prince the concept of dividing areas you wish to control into competing factions and playing one against the other is known. In that sense he equates smaller and smaller independent areas as harmful. A glance at some maps might show this far more case specific. Here is a classic: Central Europe about 1547 (845K) [p.114-115] [1926 ed.] The link is here: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/central_europe_1547.jpg Note the breaking into very small kingdoms. This period was relatively very peaceful except for the slight gooking of Schmalkaldic League. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmalkaldic_League Wars did abound during that century, but there were also strong times of relative peace. The Reformation was still frothing. In times of peace the world tends to reduce, (or balkanize if you wish), into smaller and smaller kingdoms/states. In times of war the world forms into greater and greater alliances until such as WW II only a few countries in the world are neutral. I could add my own comments to the post. However I feel it best that all think how differently the man who wrote it might have aimed the post with more background. The giant question of smaller states vs large alliances gets very complicated. This was brought forth by the situation in Georgia and the Ukraine. On one hand the former Soviet Union WANTED to break up. This was known here in 1984 and there were briefings in the Pentagon in 86 though the curtain did not come down until 89/90. (The Pentagon briefings were very large, 1000s of varied officers and not classified but not too loud.) This was a case where the Soviet/Russian alliance/federation knew the trend was to smaller areas and allowed such. At the same time the West used the opportunity of new governments to go in and buy infrastructures to take over economies. Both the Ukraine and Georgia were, to an extent, examples of this. The war in Georgia showed how the West took over to the point of both military and public relations stupidity. After the recent Georga War the Ukraine saw it in its best interest to more tilt back toward the Russian alliance. However, (in relation to timing Black Sea agreements), Russia quasi-openly stated something to the effect, We know the world needs to go local but for a short time you had best lean on this shoulder. The pro breakup email post, in and of itself, is harder to criticize. Certainly the trend should be noted. It is far better to fit this into the bigger picture. For both protection and sustainability the world, (hopefully!!!), will tend to smaller and smaller governing areas. As much as possible the necessities will be available locally. The small areas will be independent enough to satisfy all. In a sense these smaller areas will be somewhat like Parishes in Louisiana are today. One Parish might be super fundamental Christian so you cant even buy a can of beer. In the next Parish there would be quasi-open prostitution and gambling. Obviously at the same time there would be greater need for global cooperation particularly in survival areas such as population control and enviornment. That is the rub and, yes, it is one heck of a rub. Some envision four international, (non-profit?), corporations: energy, communications, banking/commerce, and police/military. These might have relatively low paid staffs. In fact the presiding officer of one might even do one hour a day emptying trash baskets. As this, (possible/hopeful?), trend continues its course you will see some giant area alliances. One obvious new geopolitical alliance is the AUs announcement of plans for a United States of Africa. There many other lines need be redrawn as it would be far better to base smaller governments on old tribal areas than Colonial Era bicker/settle lines. Thank you again, Norgeson. I do keep abreast of this list every day. Michael
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Evidence suggests CIA funded experiments at state hospital
More relaxed about my personal experience in this area. Way back the night of April 13th, 1984. After a naval interrogation I was hit with electronic LSD. It starts to work the first time you relax, doze. Device originally produced by company called Astronics. In truth was very light treatment, better than a slug in my brain. In light doses it is much like pot and even tested on members of Congress. Tip ONeal was one. On other hand, (given odd set and setting), expecting a slug, it did freak me out big time for some period. At the interrogation I gave three names but only had paperwork for two of the names. I had no paperwork on Kozyrev, (Nikoli). It happened that a Koslov (Sergi) was a Soviet Mathematician on loan to a college in California, (think Stanford). Navy tape recorded interrogation with my knowledge and consent. Same sort of things happened to Koslov a number of days after my interrogation. (Names sound similar and I most likely slurred anyway.) He is the one who crashed out at Dullas airport with all kinds of shrinks being brought in. TASS then accused the United States of wrongfully using psychotropic devices. This is the ONLY time that I know of, (discounting the Moscow embassy micro harassment that I dont think applies), EVER-EVER-EVER, that either the United States or the former Soviet Union ever openly accused the other of using psychoactive drugs or psychotronic devices. There is some tangential evidence that the device, (the Astronics one above), has also been used in jury tampering. I saw that possibility in the prosecution of Reagan Secretary of Labor Raymond Donovan. This was a RICO trial prosecuted by the Manhattan DA, Morganthal (spelling?). The trial was complex, expected to be very long, so the judge empanelled extra jurors. The extras got sick as trial dragged on. At some point a woman juror with no psychiatric disorder, (either history or seen by shrinks then brought in), freaks out disrupting trial. Usually this would bring on a mistrial. However judge continued with eleven jurors. Donovan acquitted anyway. More than a year later (Aug 14th 1985) Russell Baker did a New York Times funny op ed that related to the overall situation. Seems that is deleted from on line records. (Taking off the Armor The Naked Truth About King John). Would be complex to demonstrate how and why. Michael Donovan 1834 Connecticut Ave. N.W Was that near the old Drug Fair? My dad worked for CIA near the old Drug Fair. A friend of mine in high school was not considered mentally ill. He was arrested in a Vietnam war protest around 1970. He stuffed a roll of toilet paper in the toilet. The whole floor of the jail was flooded, and cells were packed with protestors. A black man with US flag jeans told him,Now they're going to take you and do things to you. Robert Spicer was taken to the MKULTRA clinic near or at 1834 Connecticut Ave NW and injected with what he was told was a world's record dose of Thorazine.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Evidence suggests CIA funded experiments at state hospital
Thank you, Bob. The Astronics device simply separated (more separated) the synapses. It is also talked about in an old book called 'Mind Wars' by Ron Mcray (spelling?) Good news is that seems, at least in that time, the US and Soviets had some sort of non use deal regarding these weapons. Hey, a start is a start. Michael Thank you, Michael Donovan. Keyword Astronics. In 1977 I was in New Orleans with Admiral Bonner's (Haiphong mining) daughter for five minutes and somebody taps me on the shoulder and asks if we need a place to stay. Two beautifil anesthesiologists, a brain surgeon, and a deep sea oil rig diver on vacation. The brain surgeon worked for Delgado of Tulane. He did normal emergency room work, and then for Delgado he made implants on convicts. The obsessive-compulsive convicts would keep activating their pleasure centers by their handy control box. I hope it did not cost much to make that discovery, scarcely more valuable than insect mating studies and Iraq reconstruction contracts. I went to sleep. I hope I didn't receive an implant. Sony has a patent on projection of visual and audio perception by EMF into brain. Calgon manufactured simple rfid type of transmitter implants. McVeigh worked there as a security guard. Some of the drugs also key on that zone of falling asleep, as can hypnosis. The harassment can simply be brutal microwaving as Catherine Austin Fitts' doctor called internal burns by microwave. Soviet embassy microwaving was said to be eavesdropping by measuring distance to window glass as membrane, but was sure to have been also some degree of baking people with microwaves. Soviet eavesdropping tech and Tesla studies suggest they could do more. Colors and frequency can be therapeutic or torture. Kind of hard to hide in a courtroom. Speaking of courtroom, how about the chess game? The Soviet mind control specialist could just have been cover for electronics. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, micha...@... wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/46316 More relaxed about my personal experience in this area. Way back the night of April 13th, 1984. After a naval interrogation I was hit with `electronic LSD'. It starts to work the first time you relax, doze. Device originally produced by company called Astronics.
Re: [cia-drugs] Prescription Drug Abuse Rises Among Iraqi Troops
Happy pills are now handed out to US troops like candy. You don't even need to see a medic. 'Sarge' has them. Seems someone's idea of 'why not treat PTSD before it occurs. Would certainly help the reup stats! I heard this and had it confirmed recently. Michael http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/world/middleeast/21drugs.html?_r=1em Prescription Drug Abuse Rises Among Iraqi Troops Max Becherer/Polaris, for The New York Times
Re: [cia-drugs] Russian state tv suggests US involved in drug-trafficking.
Wow, this is news! With that, perhaps on this list, link to msm story that Columbia war on drugs phony as 'kill stats' phony. Michael You are here: Home Trafficking Drugs | Site last updated on December 23rd, 2008
Re: [cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] The Madoff scandal
We can't say at this point what is really going on here, but we can say that this scandal occurs at a point when the financial system is liquidating as the various players are battling each other in a desperate fight for survival, with the more powerful eating the weaker. The suspicion grows that the Madoff affair is itself a cover-up for something even worse. Still, whatever it is, it serves as yet another reminder that the system itself is corrupt, the product of speculation gone not only unchecked, but actively promoted by those whose responsibility was to protect the public trust. This system is beyond redemption, and must be shut down. http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/12/16/whats-really-going-madoff-affair.html Highlighted in blue: this is probably the ONLY reason this case was prosecuted. The DOJ does not take down big fish when they have bilked millions from little guys - only when they've angered big friends. --- On Tue, 12/16/08, RoadsEnd roads...@aol.com wrote: From: RoadsEnd roads...@aol.com Subject: [cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] The Madoff scandal To: Cia-drugs Cia-drugs Cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 3:19 PM Begin forwarded message: From: Alamaine, IVe fratl...@gra. midco.netDate: December 16, 2008 6:56:28 AM PSTTo: c...@yahoogroups. comSubject: [ctrl] The Madoff scandalReply-To: c...@yahoogroups. com http://www.wsws. org/articles/ 2008/dec2008/ pers-d16. shtml World Socialist Web Site wsws.org The Madoff scandal 16 December 2008 The repercussions from the collapse of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC, whose founder and owner was arrested last Thursday after admitting that his $17 billion investment advisory business was a giant Ponzi scheme, continue to widen. According to a criminal complaint filed by the FBI and a civil action brought by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the elderly Madoff estimated that the losses from his fraud exceeded $50 billion. The tally of losses already reported by banks, hedge funds and wealthy investors climbed over the weekend to nearly $20 billion. Banks and hedge funds around the world-in the US, Britain, Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland and Japan-are reporting hundreds of millions and even billions in losses. University endowments, charities and other institutions that entrusted their money to Madoff or to hedge funds that invested in Madoff's company are reeling from the news that their investments are worthless. Prominent and wealthy individuals- including J. Ezra Merkin, the chairman of GMAC, Fred Wilpon, the principal owner of the New York Mets, Norman Braman, the former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles professional football team, Frank Lautenberg, the multimillionaire Democratic senator from New Jersey, and Mortimer Zuckerman, the owner of the New York Daily News-are among those who have lost millions. Among the thousands and even tens of thousands of individuals likely to be affected is no small number of retirees of relatively modest means whose life savings were tied into Madoff's operation. The fallout from the Madoff scandal will inevitably result in the failure of other investment firms, impacting thousands more individuals and hundreds more businesses. Madoff's scam could not have been carried out without the complicity of the highest echelons of the financial elite and the government. US officials now allege that Madoff was engaged in a Ponzi scheme-using new revenues from investors to meet payments due to existing investors-at least since 2005. As of yet, no one really knows how long Madoff, a former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market and current member of the board of governors of the National Association of Securities Dealers, was paying his old clients with money obtained from new ones. The scheme collapsed after clients requested some $7 billion in redemptions. As the New York Times reported Saturday, There is fragmentary evidence that Mr. Madoff's alleged scam may have lasted for years or even decades... It is not even clear whether Mr. Madoff actually made any of the trades he reported to investors. One thing is clear, Madoff, known as a Wall Street legend, was a man with many connections in high places. Since 2000, he has given at least $100,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and more than $23,000 to the party's candidates, including Senator Charles Schumer of New York, the chairman of the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, and Senator Lautenberg. His legal defense team includes Mark Mukasey, the son of the current attorney general. There were ample signs that Madoff's operation was fraudulent. He made his reputation and his millions by delivering solid returns of 1 or 2 percent a month to his investors month in and month out from the day he launched his investment advisory business as an adjunct to his brokerage firm. Wealthy investors and hedge
Re: [cia-drugs] The UN's Peacekeeping Army is Falling Apart
More and more of the world are considering the UN as enemy. I agree. UN troops just killed and raped in Eastern Congo. All over Africa the UN is seen as enemy. Pravda just published an article tearing the UN to shreds. A real rant but very true. The UN Security Council is a cover for illegal secret deals concerning non use of nukes brokered by Henry Luce. More and more of the world is seeing through this. Background: 1- http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/webnukeletter.htm 2- AND http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/aspyintime.htm Ecuador has just created world wide Boston Tea Party. It has begun. Michael The UN's Peacekeeping Army is Falling Apart By strategy page 15-12-2008 The UN's peacekeeping army of 112,000 troops, is falling apart. Corruption, casualties and lack of success are discouraging countries from
Re: [cia-drugs] Woman revisits the 'Hell' of ritual abuse By Ben Winslow Deseret News 12/10/08
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Re: [cia-drugs] Fwd: SPITZER SHOULD KNOW...his article against bailouts
SPITZER Spitzers article linked below. Loved comment: This is the message that was interrupted by his bust . I agree. The American system wants politicians who are under secret control. Problem was that many governors were starting to voice the same warning but just not as vocal. Tidewater area is the crossover between CIA and international Mafia. Mayor of Virginia Beach is the niece of Meyer Lansky. Odd court case there showed that one company out of VB controls most all escort services in the US. The full, ½ and ¼ page ads in all major cities are not competitors but all run out of Virginia Beach. But case also showed that company could not in any way afford such coast-to-coast full and half page Yellow Page advertising. What was this? Led to a joke. What is the Yellow Pages? It is the R.R. Donnelly Company. What is the R.R. Donnelly Company? It is the phone company. Who is the biggest pimp in the United States? The National Security Agency, of course. See: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/TheFall5.htm Note that in that link Katherine Pollard Miller is the Kay Griggs who is responsible for getting rid of Rummy. She went back to maiden name prior to her videos getting so big on Internet. Just met an enlisted Marine just back from Iraq. I asked him if he knew who Kay Griggs was. His word for word reply was, Are you kidding? Every grunt in Iraq knows who Kay Griggs is. Michael Begin forwarded message: From: anita sands [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 5, 2008 1:34:58 AM PST To: anita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPITZER SHOULD KNOW...his article against bailouts THIS IS THE MESSAGE THAT WAS INTERRUPTED BY HIS BUST. THEY BUSTED him to STOP HIM. RARELY do we ever get a politico who picks up the pieces. Too Big Not To Fail We need to stop using the bailouts to rebuild gigantic financial institutions. By Eliot Spitzer Posted Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2008, at 5:59 PM ET Last month, as the financial crisis and the government rescue plan dominated headlines, almost everyone overlooked a news item that could have enormous long-term impact: GE Capital announced the acquisition of five mid-size airplaneswith an option to buy 20 moreproduced by CACC, a new, Chinese-government-sponsored airline manufacturer. Why is that so significant? Two reasons: First, just as small steps signaled the Asian entry into our now essentially bankrupt auto sector 50 years ago, so the GE acquisition signals Asia's entry into one of our few remaining dominant manufacturing sectors. Boeing is still the world's leading commercial aviation company. CACC's emergenceand its particular advantage selling to Asian marketsmeans that Boeing now faces the rigors of an entirely new competitive playing field and that our commercial airplane sector is likely to suffer enormously over the coming decades. But the second implication is even bigger. The CACC story highlights the risk that current bailoutsa remarkable $7.8 trillion in equity, loans, and guarantees so farmay merely perpetuate a fundamentally flawed status quo. So far, at least, we are simply rebuilding the same edifice that just collapsed. None of the investments has even begun to address the underlying structural problems that are causing economic power to shift away from the United States, sector by sector: * Our trade deficit has ballooned from about $100 billion to more than $700 billion annually in the past decade, and our federal deficit now approaches $1 trillion. These twin deficits leave us at the mercy of foreign-capital inflows that may diminish as Asian nations, in particular, invest increasingly at home. * Our household savings rate has been close to zeroand even negative in some yearsnot permitting the long-term capital accumulation required for the investments we need; China's savings rate, by comparison, is an astonishing 30 percent of household income. * U.S. middle class income has stagnated over the past decade, while the middle class in Chinagranted, starting from a lower basehas seen its income growing at about 10 percent annually. * Our intellectual advantage could soon turn into a new third deficit, as hundreds of thousands of engineers are being created annually in China. * We are realizing that the service sectorall the lawyers, investment bankers, advertising agencies, and accountantsfollows its clients and wealth creation. This, not over-regulation, is the reason investment-banking activity has begun to migrate overseas. The great irony is that our new place in the global economy is a direct consequence of our grand victory over the past 60 years. We have, indeed, converted virtually the entire world into one integrated capitalist economy, and we must now bear the brunt of serious and vigorous competition. In the immediate aftermath of World War II, the United States was essentially the only nation with financial capital,
Re: WRONG!!! [cia-drugs] Iraq/Afghan Veterans Facing PTSD Join the Homeless
End of article referenced is partly bull ., very wrong. Here is the last paragraph of article referenced: (quote) I think the problem is war itself, she said. War changes a person. I talk to all vets. The same experiences we had coming home from Iraq are the same experience World War II (vets) saw, Vietnam saw, Korean War saw, so it hasn't changed. I think the real problem is probably just war itself . (unquote) World War I war psychosis was called shell shock. Then WW II, Korea, it became battle fatigue. Then PTSD etc. But it is not just the names that changed. Common types of psychoses such as a soldier not being able to see but there being nothing wrong with his eyes, (he wanted to get back and help his buddies), were common in WW I and comprised a good portion of shell shock. By the time Nam rolled around such symptoms were almost unheard of. General trend: soldiers are becoming less in denial and far angrier. Afghanistan and Iraq worse still: In order to preempt the PTSD psycho pills are now handed out to troops as much as they want. They dont even need to see a medic. Sarge has them! The army gets many more combat months/years out of each troop. But when done they are addicts on the streets and needing lifetime drugs etc. Yes, though, the problem is war itself. Attitudes changing. Michael Iraq and Afghanistan War Veterans Facing PTSD Join the Homeless http://www.truthout.org/111308HA Anna Sussman, The San Francisco Chronicle: Ethan Kreutzer joined the Army at the age of 17 and fought with the 19th Airborne in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. When he returned home, he had no money, no education and no civilian job experience. He soon became homeless. He slept in an alley off Haight Street, behind two trash cans.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Sarah Palin Supports New 9/11 Investigation
This caught my attention. Perhaps simple cover up. In this manner: 1- The realization that the truth will come out at top. Thousands of people demonstrated at site on anniversary last month. The protesters all carried signs saying 'we did it' and 'inside job'. This was not in US news at all but on prime time television oversees. I saw it on Russian television, story was also in English. Cynthia McKinney was speaking there. Also why few know Cynthia is on ballot, (Green Party), for pres. You knew of Ralph Nader when he was but not Cynthia. Reason? She comes right out and states we did 9/11. 2- If they know it will come out better to be part of the 'outting' than have your pants pulled down. 'Oswalds' being selected etc. I am not saying this is the case. Only that it crossed my mind. However if this thought is true then it would help 'scape goat' the bad energy and they could simply continue. Michael Probably looking for the disgruntled Iranian-influenced Iraqi Shiite fallback to Iraqi 911 angle. Bomb Iran and damn the torpedoes of logic and factual evidence for Porter Goss, Lebanese heroin families, Pak intel, Saudi intel, maybe even Syrian intel (Monzer Al Kasser of Pan Am 103 who placed the bomb at Frankfurt must have been involved in 911 if Lebanese heroin families were using lead hijacker Atta to fly heroin to Porter Goss' in Terrortown). -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Sarah Palin Supports New 9/11 Investigation* Alaska Governor gives unexpected answer during Ohio rally Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com http://prisonplanet.com/ Tuesday, October 28, 2008 John McCain?s presidential running mate Sarah Palin, much to the bewilderment of the 9/11 truth community, seemingly expressed support for a new investigation into the terrorist attacks during a rally in Ohio last week. *http://www.prisonplanet.com/sarah-palin-supports-new-911-investigation.html* */ http://www.prisonplanet.tv/subscribe.html/* *//* */TURN ON, TUNE IN, WAKE UP. Join the community at Prison Planet.tv and get immediate access to every Alex Jones film and thousands of other pieces of multimedia! /**/Click here to subscribe/*/./
Re: [cia-drugs] Top world military leaders meet in Lake Placid
Many meetings. Odd, don't think regular. Large meeting between US and Russian military (top) in Finland now also. Always look for who goes to who. Finland not Moscow.., still ! Michael Rght, because they can't pick up a secure telephone to discuss these things and they don't have any other opportunities to get together. What's the pricetag on this retreat, held while we're bailing out their Wall Street buddies? Are they really this stupid and out of touch with reality? (that's rhetorical, v-mann) --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vigilius Haufniensis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cia-drugs] Top world military leaders meet in Lake Placid To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 3:28 AM Perhaps it was someone's birthday... -Vmann He said the meeting is an annual event that is rotated amongst the countries. http://www.pressrep ublican.com/ homepage/ local_story_ 295092819. html Top world military leaders meet in Lake Placid LAKE PLACID Some of the most powerful military commanders in the world met in Lake Placid over the weekend. Speculation was rife after a C-32, the military equivalent to a Boeing 757 airliner, touched down Friday at the Adirondack Regional Airport in Lake Clear. The 155-foot-long jumbo jet, which is used as Air Force 2 when the vice president is aboard, was emblazoned with United States of America on the side and parked on the eastern edge of the airport. I was contacted by the Department of Defense approximately a month ago, and they indicated they had some foreign dignitaries that they wanted to bring in through the airport, said Ross Dubarry, the airports manager. Following the landing, a motorcade led by State Police rushed Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and top military commanders from four nations Britain, France, Germany and Italy to a resort in Lake Placid. The motorcade returned Sunday afternoon, and the C-32 and an Italian military jet departed. Defense Department officials wouldnt comment this weekend, but the day after the planes had left, Capt. John Kirby, a special assistant to Mullen, confirmed that the top military leaders from five countries met in Lake Placid to discuss mutual security issues, including Afghanistan. Im not at liberty to go into the details that was discussed, but they went through a wide range of security issues that are common to all five nations, Kirby said. They discussed, in broad terms, progress in Afghanistan and where were heading with regard to Afghanistan, particularly the NATO mission there. And they discussed other mutual issues of security concerns. Security was tight at the Whiteface Lodge and Resort the site where the military leaders were rumored to have stayed, though the resort would not confirm that. Kirby confirmed that Sir Graham Stirrup of Britains Royal Air Force, German Army Gen. Wolfgang Schneiderhan, French Army Gen. Jean-Louis Georgelin and Italian Air Force Gen. Vincenzo Camporini took part in the two-day meetings. He said the meeting is an annual event that is rotated amongst the countries. The U.S. military picked Lake Placid because while its relatively close to Washington, D.C., its still fairly tranquil, Kirby said. They try to choose sites that are relatively quiet that allow these leaders to focus on the issues and not be distracted by other things. Harrietstown Supervisor Larry Miller, whose town owns and operates the airport, said the airport was contacted about a month ago about whether it could handle large aircraft and foreign dignitaries.
[cia-drugs] Re: Bush Generations
Forget first name, but a Bush family member, perhaps great grandfather of Prescott Bush...: At any rate he was first to step foot on defeated H.M.S. Gerrier. U.S.S. Constitution, (even with two tiers of guns), was still only a frigate. There were special boarding parties at time, (no Marines yet), and Bush, (think then Lt.), swore he would be first to set foot on Gerrier. He was. Shot dead on the spot. Michael I just thought of another fulfilment of It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, the Spencer Tracy flick: Four CROOKED bushes make a big W. http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/photos/view/8cda?b=3 Four mads. Four **CROOKED** Bush generations make a Big Dubya. One-bid treasure for military keynesianism under Big Dub. A walk in the park, meaning war is always falsely advertised. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad (4 generations) world, where four generations of crooked Bush make a big W (GWB). One-bid treasure is buried under Big Dubya. 190,000 mercs in Iraq outnumber 150,000 troops, and who do they bring home from Iraq to help in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina? Louisiana National Guard? No, Blackwater! Mad, mad, mad, mad! A walk in the park. No Man's Land WWI, every war forecast to be two weeks long, invaders supposed to be greeted with flowers and parades as liberators, don't bring your winter clothing. It's all been said before, but Iraqwar had to be called off after two weeks or the Pyrrhic victory would have been exposed as a defeat as US troops got too sick from DU not to be noticed. Four generations of Bush have profited off of both sides of trumped up wars. That form of colonialism is not about seizing resources overseas, it's about seizing taxpayer assets at home. That is not my opinion, that is their confession: If the American people knew what we are doing, they would chase us down the street and lynch us from the lamp posts...what we are doing is capital transfer to those who are higher, tighter, and righter...the velvet glove is off the iron fist(GHWB).
Re: [cia-drugs] vote green
I agree. vote for no pol who does not push for true look at 9/11 as does McKinney. Michael vote Green [Please forward broadly] Dear Green-Rainbow Party Friends, It is time that we let our Congresspeople hear our dismay and our disgust. And it is time that we let the world know that there are other voices than the corporate duopoly of Democrats and Republicans. We must work to open the debates and to have our voices heard. On Saturday, the Senate passed a $488 billion Pentagon budget -- on a voice vote, meaning that the names or numbers of Senators voting for and against were not recorded. The spending bill that passed also threw in $70 billion for occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, $25 billion in subsidized loans to the auto industry, and the lifting of off-shore drilling bans. Late last night, the Senate passed a $700 billion Wall Street bailout, representing a purchase by taxpayers of junk assets from troubled financial institutions who were gambling away other people's money. The fear-mongering around this bill -- with demands that it must happen and bipartisan agreement from the leading presidential candidates -- follows the same path that led us into invading Iraq. It is clear that we need more voices represented in the US political system. The actions below are some ideas for registering our voices loudly and clearly. Contents: 1. Open the Debates Action Week - 100 letters to the editor 2. Call your Congressperson - 'no' to the bailout 3. Participate in the ThirdPartyTicket.com pledge to open the debates 4. Become a pollworker and ensure fair treatment of third party (and all) voters 5. Donate to the Green-Rainbow Party 6. Donate to the McKinney/Clemente Campaign *:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,* 1. Open the Debates Action Week, Oct. 1-7: Let Cynthia Rosa debate! 10/1/ - 10/7/08 Open the Debates Action Week, October 1-7: Let Cynthia Rosa debate! Help get Cynthia McKinney Rosa Clemente in the news and in the debates! Goal: 100 letters to the editor in newspapers across the US On Thursday, Oct. 2, the first vice presidential debate will take place at Washington University in St. Louis. And on Tuesday, Oct. 7, the second presidential debate is planned for Belmont University's Curb Event Center in Nashville, Tennessee. The third presidential debate is on Oct. 15 at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York. The debate sponsors intend to exclude the Green Party's presidential ticket. Let's not let that happen without a fight for democratic inclusion of all qualified candidates! By excluding all candidates except Democrats and Republicans, the debate sponsors are rigging the election. Cynthia and Rosa are on the ballot in enough states to win the election, so they deserve an invitation, and voters deserve to hear them debate! We encourage all Greens and friends to participate in the first in a series of actions we're planning for October. Please help us spread the word about the McKinney-Clemente campaign and their right to take part in the debates. Stay tuned for more actions throughout the month. Here's what you can do:⢠Write a letter to the editor about how important it is for Cynthia and Rosa to participate in the debates. See the Talking Points below for ideas. Keep the letter short and focused â five or six sentences is good. We're aiming for 100 letters sent by Greens to newspapers and news web sites all across the US. Visit the letter-writing page to look up a newspaper and post a letter â use the provided text as a basis, or write your own: http://www.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizationsCOM/Greens/pickMedia.jsp?let ter_KEY=474 ⢠Go viral! Recommend and promote video clips and articles with positive coverage of Green candidates by 'Digging' them (http://digg.com). ⢠Promote the McKinney-Clemente Power to the People campaign on Facebook, Myspace, and blogs. Don't forget to add links to these important web sites: http://votetruth08.com http://www.rosaclemente.com State and local Green Party and other Green campaign sites ⢠Host a Debate-Watching House Party: http://www.democracyinaction.com/dia/organizationsCOM/Greens/event/distributed EventSignup.jsp?distributed_event_KEY=179 ⢠Contact TV, radio, blog sites, and urge them to cover the campaign. ⢠Other actions: write an op-ed column or article and submit it to a newspaper or news web site. Post a message on an e-mail bulletin board. Call in to a radio talk show. ⢠Make a donation to the McKinney-Clemente campaign to help the candidates travel around the US for media appearances and campaign events: http://votetruth08.com/index.php/contribute/donate?task=pre_paypal ~ Talking points ~ Open the debates to Cynthia McKinney and other candidates on the ballot! Cynthia tells the truth.
Re: [cia-drugs] Fwd: When Is an Assassination Plot NOT a Plot? When the Target Is a Black Democrat?
Logistics came out on another list. Don't know how true. They would not be able to get withing 750m. Exact weapons, (as far as I know), not disclosed. 1000m conceivable but even top sniper would have trouble. So, in that respect, not a threat. Not that those caught could not have been set up to 'give a message' etc. Just that real assassination attempt would be near impossible for those. Feds would need prove 'not just talk' in court. m Talk about not having what it takes to get the job done?! How 'bout those highly trained federal agents. What a joke! - Original Message From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cia-drugs Cia-drugs Cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:28:06 AM Subject: [cia-drugs] Fwd: When Is an Assassination Plot NOT a Plot? When the Target Is a Black Democrat? Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: August 26, 2008 11:12:50 PM PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] org Subject: When Is an Assassination Plot NOT a Plot? When the Target Is a Black Democrat? When is a plot not a plot? A group of armed meth heads reportedly discussed shooting Barack Obama, but the feds opted for lesser charges. By Mike Madden http://www.salon. com/news/ feature/2008/ 08/27/plot/ Aug. 27, 2008 | DENVER -- Late Saturday night, the cops in Aurora, Colo., stopped a blue Dodge truck that was swerving all over the road. The driver, a 28-year-old trance D.J. named Tharin Gartrell, had a suspended license, a criminal record and four grams of methamphetamine in his pocket. In his trunk, he had two rifles (one stolen), a few boxes of ammo, a bulletproof vest and a portable meth lab. By the next day, based on what Gartrell told them, the cops had called in the feds, and authorities had arrested his cousin, a convicted burglar named Shawn Adolf, and a friend, Nathan Johnson, and turned up more drugs. And in Adolf's case, a background check turned up some outstanding warrants, one with a $1 million bail set. Which might explain why Adolf jumped out the window of his hotel room in Glendale, Colo., when the Secret Service showed up to arrest him on Sunday. From the sixth floor. Shawn Robert Adolf, left, Tharin Gartrell and Nathan Johnson That might have been the end of the episode, and it might just have been unusually dramatic fodder for the local paper's crime blotter, except it turned out Gartrell, Johnson and Adolf had a problem with Barack Obama. Namely, they objected to the Democratic presidential nominee's being black, though court documents say they expressed that fact in less delicate terms. And a woman who'd been hanging out in their hotel to chill and do drugs, according to court papers, told federal agents the three had gathered on the outskirts of Denver in order to try to do something about it. Specifically, to shoot him with the rifles and ammo they'd brought along. Nathan Johnson confirmed the plotin an interview with a local Denver television reporter from inside the Denver jail. So your friends were saying threatening things about Obama? the reporter asked. a rel=nofollow target=_blank href=http://bs.serving-sys.com/BurstingPipe/BannerRedirect.asp?FlightID=572249amp;Page=amp;PluID=0amp;Pos=8067;font size=2/font/a Yeah, Nathan Johnson replied. It sounded like they didn't want him to be president? continued the reporter. Well, no, Johnson said. He don't belong in political office.. Blacks don't belong in political office. He ought to be shot. a rel=nofollow target=_blank href=http://judo.salon.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.cgi/www.salonmagazine.com/news/content/[EMAIL PROTECTED]font size=2/font/a By Tuesday, officials had decided the three men didn't have the capacity to act on their racist impulses, no matter how heavily armed they were. But the whole episode was a strange, and alarming, reminder of why Obama has had Secret Service protection since the spring of 2007 -- there are a lot of people out there who hate the idea of a black president, and are crazy enough to say they'll do something about it. The arrests raised the frightening specter of yet another of America's charismatic young leaders being gunned down by a lunatic. Obama aides declined to comment, citing a strict policy of not discussing security. The arrests seemed more threatening when they first became public. Serious brass was pulled in; Attorney General Michael Mukasey was briefed. But Tuesday, after an investigation involving three different federal agencies, Colorado's U.S. attorney, Troy Eid, announced that authorities had decided Adolf, Johnson and Gartrell were basically not as dangerous as they looked. The feds didn't plan to charge any of the three men with threatening a presidential candidate, a federal felony that comes with a possible five-year prison term. Instead, Eid charged Adolf (who is variously
Re: [cia-drugs] Please Express Your Opinion
From time to time I write a letter. Wrote to the lawyer defending the younger of the two. It was copied with a cover letter to the Virginia Bar. I pointed out that if mind control is not used as a defense he is breaking all ethics. m I would like to hear your opinion on one idea. John Muhamad of Muhamad and Malvo, DC-area snipers during Iraqwar voting, was only tried for one murder, that of Dean Meyers. Muhamad only represented himself for part of that trial. While he was representing himself, a witness perjured herself to place him at the scene of the crime. Muhamad did not attack her testimony. What do you think of that? The witness was a woman who worked at First Virginia Bank. I put the mapquest map in cia-drugs photos, showing that the bank is a mile from the crime scene. Why play lawyer yet pass up the opportunity to crush a softball and send it over the outfield fence as Matlock or Perry Mason? By crush a softball, I mean it was this easy. Matlock: You say your bank is in the same shopping center as SUNOCO. What is the name of the shopping center? The bank is not actually in a shopping center What is the name of the shopping center SUNOCO is in then? SUNOCO is not actually in a shopping center either. You said they were in the same shopping center, and then you said that neither is actually in any shopping center. Are they in the same parking lot? No Do you realize that your bank is exactly one mile from SUNOCO? If you say so Your bank and SUNOCO are on opposite sides of six lanes of highway, a grass median strip, two sidewalks, and two parking lots. Neither is in a shopping center. Did you tell the prosecution before this trial that you saw the defendant in the same shopping center where you worked? No, they told me to say that The prosecution suborned you to perjure yourself by claiming to have seen the defendant at the scene of the crime? Exactly, yes. Were your two co-workers lying here today when they called you a liar about events the day of the murder? I guess not http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/44045
Re: [cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Little help fellow researchers?
Best UFO site is Dr. Greer, www.disclosureproject.com http://www.skewsme.com/mind_control.html -Original Message- From: Skews Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 6:32 pm Subject: [ctrl] Little help fellow researchers? I'm trying to gather information for my recent and not-so-recent pages and would love suggestions of what to add to:  http://www.skewsme.com/chemical_warfare.html  http://www.skewsme.com/systematic_poisoning.html  http://www.skewsme.com/ritalin.html  And for free-energy and UFO researchers  http://www.skewsme.com/ufo.html  As always, I still need more information for  http://www.skewsme.com/mind_control.html Â
Re: [cia-drugs] Fwd: [ctrl] Little help fellow researchers?
Nice quote from Colby. He was whacked, foreign assassin, young kid who freaked when he found out who he did when in papers. Google Kay Griggs. Michael http://www.skewsme.com/mind_control.html -Original Message- From: Skews Me [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 6:32 pm Subject: [ctrl] Little help fellow researchers? I'm trying to gather information for my recent and not-so-recent pages and would love suggestions of what to add to:  http://www.skewsme.com/chemical_warfare.html  http://www.skewsme.com/systematic_poisoning.html  http://www.skewsme.com/ritalin.html  And for free-energy and UFO researchers  http://www.skewsme.com/ufo.html  As always, I still need more information for  http://www.skewsme.com/mind_control.html Â
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!
Though I erred, (It is Swedish -confused with Vodka that starts with 'S')..yes, amounts to same thing. Swedes backing Russia is this, our stupid 'expansion'. They have been more connected to Russia than most realize from the time Charles XII defeated by Peter. It IS a political statement and they don't mind some stupid 'boycott' which won't last anyway to make the statement. Those states becoming more and more Spanish. There are NO hispanics in Miss. Alabama, Ark. Why? Why should they go there and compete with the Blacks. And those states becoming more and more controlled by Blacks. Economically Washington state is more and more connected to Vancouver both places saying 'why should we be controlled by D.C. and Ottawa?'. Michael. Maybe something to do with the Russians in Alaska, Seward's Folly in purchasing it from them. Seward's Absolut-ion? Maybe confusion between Alyeska and Aztlan. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the sense of humor here? Am sure laughing their heads off 'there'. Absolut is a Russian company, lol. Michael Donovan http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2008/04/mexico-reconque.html *Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!* The latest advertising campaign in Mexico from Swedish vodka maker Absolut promises to push all the right buttons south of the U.S. border, but it could ruffle a few feathers in El Norte. Absolut http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcorrespondent/2383371667/ The billboard and press campaign, created by advertising agency Teran\TBWA http://www.terantbwa.com.mx/ and now running in Mexico, is a colorful map depicting what the Americas might look like in an Absolut -- i.e., perfect -- world. The U.S.-Mexico border lies where it was before the Mexican-American war of 1848 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War when California, as we now know it, was Mexican territory and known as Alta California. Following the war, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo saw the Mexican territories of Alta California and Santa Fé de Nuevo México ceded to the United States to become modern-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and Arizona. (Texas actually split from Mexico several years earlier to form a breakaway republic, and was voluntarily annexed by the United States in 1846.) The campaign taps into the national pride of Mexicans, according to Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading Latino advertising agency Grupo Gallegos in the U.S. Ucedo, who is from Argentina, said: Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It's very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea. But he said that were the campaign to run in the United States, it might fall flat. Many people aren't going to understand it here. Americans in the East and the North or in the center of the county -- I don't know if they know much about the history. Probably Americans in Texas and California understand perfectly and I don't know how they'd take it. Meanwhile, the campaign has been circulating on the blogs and generating strong responses from people north of the border. I find this ad deeply offensive, and needlessly divisive. I will now make a point of drinking other brands. And 'vodka and tonic' is my drink, said one visitor, called New Yorker, on MexicoReporter.com http://mexicoreporter.com/2008/04/03/california-reclaimed-by-mexico-thats-the-absolut-truth/#comments. Reader Paul Green goes into a discussion on the blog Gateway Pundit http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/absolut-ly-outrageous-ad-in-mexico-city.html of whether the U.S. territories ever belonged to Mexico in the first place, and the News12 Long island http://forum.news12.com//ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=0Number=928151page=0 site invited people to boycott Absolut, with one user, called LivingSmall, writing: If you drink Absolut vodka, you can voice your approval or disapproval of this advertising campaign with your purchases. I know I will be switching to Grey Goose or Stoli and will never have another bottle of Absolut in my house. Hey Absolut ... that's my form of social commentary. -- Deborah Bonello and Reed Johnson in Mexico City
Re: [cia-drugs] Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!
Where is the sense of humor here? Am sure laughing their heads off 'there'. Absolut is a Russian company, lol. Michael Donovan http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2008/04/mexico-reconque.html *Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!* The latest advertising campaign in Mexico from Swedish vodka maker Absolut promises to push all the right buttons south of the U.S. border, but it could ruffle a few feathers in El Norte. Absolut http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcorrespondent/2383371667/ The billboard and press campaign, created by advertising agency Teran\TBWA http://www.terantbwa.com.mx/ and now running in Mexico, is a colorful map depicting what the Americas might look like in an Absolut -- i.e., perfect -- world. The U.S.-Mexico border lies where it was before the Mexican-American war of 1848 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War when California, as we now know it, was Mexican territory and known as Alta California. Following the war, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo saw the Mexican territories of Alta California and Santa Fé de Nuevo México ceded to the United States to become modern-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and Arizona. (Texas actually split from Mexico several years earlier to form a breakaway republic, and was voluntarily annexed by the United States in 1846.) The campaign taps into the national pride of Mexicans, according to Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading Latino advertising agency Grupo Gallegos in the U.S. Ucedo, who is from Argentina, said: Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It's very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea. But he said that were the campaign to run in the United States, it might fall flat. Many people aren't going to understand it here. Americans in the East and the North or in the center of the county -- I don't know if they know much about the history. Probably Americans in Texas and California understand perfectly and I don't know how they'd take it. Meanwhile, the campaign has been circulating on the blogs and generating strong responses from people north of the border. I find this ad deeply offensive, and needlessly divisive. I will now make a point of drinking other brands. And 'vodka and tonic' is my drink, said one visitor, called New Yorker, on MexicoReporter.com http://mexicoreporter.com/2008/04/03/california-reclaimed-by-mexico-thats-the-absolut-truth/#comments. Reader Paul Green goes into a discussion on the blog Gateway Pundit http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/absolut-ly-outrageous-ad-in-mexico-city.html of whether the U.S. territories ever belonged to Mexico in the first place, and the News12 Long island http://forum.news12.com//ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=0Number=928151page=0 site invited people to boycott Absolut, with one user, called LivingSmall, writing: If you drink Absolut vodka, you can voice your approval or disapproval of this advertising campaign with your purchases. I know I will be switching to Grey Goose or Stoli and will never have another bottle of Absolut in my house. Hey Absolut ... that's my form of social commentary. -- Deborah Bonello and Reed Johnson in Mexico City
[cia-drugs] Heed General Lenoid Ivashovs warning.
Heed General Lenoid Ivashovs warning. Post Lebanon I have discounted all the Internet hype concerning possible US attack on Iran until now. Lebanon was complete surprise and the only person I know who predicted level of resistance was former Swiss Army officer, Michael St. Clair. Sure, it was part of the plan. But the neocon plan has gone to poof ten ways to the middle and they continue to continue it worse following bad. For first time I have serious reason for concern we are building for near, very near, attack. Reader should read these links first. http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070327/62697703.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1888.shtml and, http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1E1-Mahan-Al.html General Lenoid Ivashov also had an article in an American Foreign police magazine not too long ego. It concerned our coming election and was at time that it was thought sure to be McCain vs. Hillary. As therein he could not be too outspoken he used Admiral Mahan as a code above most heads but above stating that the US will keep same policy no matter which next president and that we have overestimated our sea power. He was not talking modern navy vs. modern navy or any navy but that technology has made all naval vessels vulnerable in littorals. (Google General Van Riper) In Millennium 2000 Van Riper played Iraq in the most expensive war game ever and sunk most of the US fleet in the Persian Gulf. For a time kept very quiet but story broke first in Army Times. All stops were taken out to counter. Woods Hole Oceanographic hydroids were plowing bottom. Naval divers were exhausted. Even platoons of trained dolphins were used off an Amphibious, USS Gunsten Hall, but more animal trainers had to be flown in to deal with dolphin boredom. Nothing seemed to work and it was like suddenly minor nations and even terrorists had a long bow that could take out a knight. Low tech beat high tech. Still does with this. We have at present much odd military activity. Almost all naval ships on West Coast are at sea. Massive convoys have been conveying military equipment from Ft. Bragg all the way up to Ft. Drum, New York, etc. Planes intercepting Russian bombers off Alaska are here called Nato General Pace contradicted Bush way past point of insubordination but kept his position for some time. In fact he was more insubordinate than MacArthur, (but inversed!). Admiral Fallon may have erred only by NOT referring to nukes and implying ANY military actions against Iran would be stupid. General situation if this goes forward: In general bombing is known more to tick off enemy. Logistics to forces we have will be far more complex. Persian Gulf will be far too risky. The United States cannot use air power to control over 2000 Chinese anti ship missiles hidden in Iran (all far superior to what sunk the HMS Sheffield). Oil flow will stop. Gas will be sky high to point of run on banks (see Ft. Drum above) etc. Afghanistan already has, by deployment, almost a front to east and would greatly extend southeast. Secret overland from Pakistan would cease (or even the question!!!). The never talked about overland to Iraq, trans Jordan from Aqaba, would be a giant risk. Horn of Africa will more than flair up- it will explode. Syria will turn. Turkey will hold as still as possible. On the inside the generals and decent flag officers have been screaming against any thought of attacking Iran. So what exactly would be the motivation to go forward anyway? This is a thousand times more difficult to explain because it goes very much against massive wrongful programming given to the masses for more than half a century. Understanding this would explain how dangerous it is for those now in power it would be if Iran did nothing else but hold present course. It is my hope that some will understand and it will be passed around enough to overt dangerous military stupidity. If Iran is simply to hold present course a secret deal brokered first between Henry Luce and Joe Stalin will come to an end. This deal is the central glue that holds massive illegal activity, drugs/arms/you-name-it together as that has been the all important checking mechanism as the deal secret. It is through this deal that, on a level few know about, the formation of the Israeli Mossad was really a cover for combining checking apparatus for CIA/KBG and bringing in other nuclear or soon-to-be-nuclear others. This is why level of violence had to be maintained there to have Israeli people consent to pay for all this even though they were unaware of it. (Google Kay Griggs to see how this was done.) There is a good overview of the deal and simplified as it was explained to a child turning 11 years old in the form of a true-story play at: http://www.midcoast.com/~michael1/aspyintime.htm In essence it was seen early how easy nukes were to make. In the day between the bombs going off over Nagasaki
Re: [cia-drugs] Kosovo II: The Next Color Revolution (Nagorno-Karabakh)
Yes, Armenia will be involved in some fashion. There are four quarters still in old Jerusalem. Which are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and few can guess that the other is Armenian or know why. Because Armenia is a country that 'jumped over Turkey' when in trouble. Armenia (and that old old banking) was Phoenicia (from Wikipedia)enterprising maritime trading culture that spread across the Mediterranean between the period of 1200 BC to 900 BC. They 'moved bank' when in trouble. As for Kosovo.. Again we never read history, another geographic strangeness. Serbia not a location but an altitude. You can be Serbian in any location in old Yugo if high enough. And they have NEVER LOST. Don't even try. Even Alexander the Great was next door in Macedonia and conquered world but when suggested that he go just a bit north Hell no, Am I a fool? Serbia always wins in long run and all that time between three families (Romanovs, Hapsburgs, Osmilis) NEVER LOST. AFRICOM told to go to hell embarasing the hell out of Bush. This is all leading to he biggest US military defeat ever. Michael latest update from vera: www.putinfreakshow.blogspot.com http://hyelog.blogspot.com/2006/07/tinderbox-caucasus-sparks-flying-along.html TINDERBOX CAUCASUS - Sparks Flying along the Pipeline July 3, 2006 DER SPIEGEL By Walter Mayr http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-62167636.html UKRAINE: UKRAINE, AZERBAIJAN DISCUSS NAGORNO-KARABAKH, PIPELINE PROJECT.(Brief Article) From: IPR Strategic Business Information Database | Date: 5/17/2000 http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37ae038857aa.htm Will pipeline development bring about another Armenian-Azerbaijani war over Nagorno-Karabakh? Foreign Affairs Opinion (Published) Source: oilandgas.com Published: 26-06-99 Posted on 08/08/1999 15:24:08 PDT by mit Will pipeline development bring about another Armenian-Azerbaijani war over Nagorno-Karabakh? By Manos Karagiannis
Re: [cia-drugs] Suspicion lingers over a string of deaths
Why not suspect British as much as Russians? Michael http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/14/wbillionaire614.xml Suspicion lingers over a string of deaths By Caroline Gammell Last Updated: 1:49am GMT 14/02/2008 Badri Patarkatsishvili is the latest in a series of former Soviet Union exiles and their associates whose deaths in Britain raised suspicions over the activities of the Russian security service and its allies. In November 2006, Alexander Litvinenko suffered a drawn-out death after being poisoned in a London hotel. He had met Andrei Lugovoi, a former KGB bodyguard, before having lunch at a sushi restaurant with an Italian acquaintance, Mario Scaramella, on Nov 1. He fell ill later that day and a photograph taken in hospital showing his gaunt features was published around the world. In March 2004, Stephen Curtis, a lawyer closely linked to Kremlin opponents such as the exile Boris Berezovsky, died in a helicopter crash. Mr Curtis was managing director of the Menatep Group, which had oil interests in Russia. There was speculation that his death was not accidental although no connection to the Russian authorities was ever proved. Mr Curtis reportedly said shortly before the crash that if he died mysteriously, it would not be an accident. Last year, Mr Berezovsky revealed that a plot to murder him had been foiled by the British security services. He said he was told that an assassin had been sent from Russia and he was advised to leave Britain. He said: I went overseas for a week and then the police informed me that I could return. I have been asked by the police not to go into detail about the assassination attempt. All of these threats bear the hallmarks of Russian security service activity. In the Soviet era, the Bulgarian dissident and playwright Georgi Markov was assassinated in London in 1978. He was killed by a poison dart fired from the tip of an umbrella into his leg as he waited for a bus near Waterloo Bridge. KGB agents and the Bulgarian secret police were believed to be behind the killing.
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: SWISS CONSTITUTION BANNED THE JESUITS
Swiss referendum also but this as recent as around 1980. They were voting on if or not to ban 'secret banking'. From what I heard it was not passed mainly because it would move someplace else and be done badly. Cayman Islands would be overcrowded. m. yeah, but the pdf is NOT attached. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, radar runner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Phelps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eric Phelps [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Jon Phelps [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: SWISS CONSTITUTION BANNED THE JESUITS Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:53:03 -0500 Subject: SWISS CONSTITUTION BANNED THE JESUITS Dear Brethrens / Friends : Attached herewith in Acrobat PDF File is a historical flier as to why Article 51 of the Swiss Constituition banned the Jesuits. Respectfully yours, Community Of World Historians - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
