Re: [newbie] 8.0 Beta
ROFL!! I'm 70% complete downloading it right now. Abe On Saturday 03 March 2001 13:50, you wrote: To all you people! I just downloaded 8.0 beta and let me tell you this OS is tighter than a 16 yr old girl, you guys should check out the new interface, it's outta this world, still some bugs but I think the final release is gonna be one of the best Mandrakes I've ever seen, a little Windowy but hey what the heck this is free and if Microscared don't like they can kiss some daemon a** anyways you all should check it out Laters Julio -- Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and rightiously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism. anonymous slashdot poster
Re: [newbie] Why (or why not) shuold I use ReiserFS?
I've only been using it for a few days now but my experience so far has been pretty good. I live in seattle and my house lost power after the earthquake. When I turned my linux box back on after the power was back up it booted right up, no file system errors and no scanning. Just a normal boot. I'm happy with it ;-) Also, I noticed that my over all through put from my HD's is a bit higher then with ext2. All the apps I've run work fine and I still get 150fps in quake3 ;-) Go for it. Abe On Wednesday 28 February 2001 13:28, you wrote: Why (or why not) shuold I use ReiserFS? What is the good part and what is the bad? /N -- Just because I sit in front of a terminal all day doesn't mean I couldn't hunt you down and rightiously kick your ass to feed my newfound cannabalism. anonymous slashdot poster
Re: [newbie] ReiserFS, Nvidia Driver, X 4.0.2 and 3d acceleration
I did but I'll double check. Thanks for the idea! Abe Adam Greene wrote: Kill the non-NVidia GL libraries as per NVidia's FAQ. - Original Message - From: "Digital Wokan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ReiserFS, Nvidia Driver, X 4.0.2 and 3d acceleration Everything but ReiserFS on my system going fine. Did you do anything about the non-nVidia MesaGL libraries so they wouldn't conflict with nVidia's drivers? (I'll let you know about ReiserFS someday soon, but it won't be under Mdk7.2.) abe wrote: Does this work? Any body have this working on their machines? I reinstalled to convert to ReiserFS and now X crashes everytime I start a 3d accelerated application. No messages left in the logs except that X caught a signal 11. X 4.02 Nvidia driver 0.9.6 mandrake 7.2 Please help! Abe -- Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [newbie] ReiserFS, Nvidia Driver, X 4.0.2 and 3d acceleration
did that. the only error that I saw that might be causing this is an informational about agp being disabled and this one: "(WW) NVIDIA(0): Failure reading EDID parameters for head 0." I'm, gonna try the xfree86 people with this one. Abe Michael Leone wrote: - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: [newbie] ReiserFS, Nvidia Driver, X 4.0.2 and 3d acceleration Does this work? Any body have this working on their machines? I reinstalled to convert to ReiserFS and now X crashes everytime I start a 3d accelerated application. No messages left in the logs except that X caught a signal 11. X 4.02 Nvidia driver 0.9.6 mandrake 7.2 Please help! How do you start X? If you do it from the comand line, you could do startx 1stdout.txt 2stderr.txt stderr.txt would then have the output of any error messages that X had. Abe
Re: [newbie] burning linux mandrake 7.2
actually in nero to burn from an iso you have to look in the file menu for an option called "burn from image". That should do it for you. Abe John Rye wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:47:44 + "dan.burrows" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we tryed to use nero (dont know which version is not mine again) to burn it to cd but it doesnt recognise the file type. thanks for any help any of you can give Somewhere in the dimness of my single neuron - I recall a suggestion to change the extention from .iso to .nri when using Nero. Worth a shot? I'm sure someone else on the list will correct me. Cheers John --- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: [newbie] ReiserFS, Nvidia Driver, X 4.0.2 and 3d acceleration
ok well thats good news. That means I probably did somehting wrong. Cool. Its fixable! I've had my geforce card for a few months now and had it working great. In fact with the 0.9.5 nvidia drivers I get better performance then in windows by about 25%!! I re-installed to change to reiser and I must have botched something during ort after the re-install cause what worked before doesn't now. Hey, if you are using the 0.9.6 nvidia driver you should try installing from tar.gz because there is a little change you can make in one of the build files that will result in much better performance. Without the change that driver seems locked around 90fps but with the change it approaches the performance of 0.9.5 and is a lot more stable. read M64_USERS_README in NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-6 for the fix. Thank you Adam. Abe Adam Greene wrote: Yes, I'm running Mandrak 7.2, NVidia (Geforce2 MX), and ReiserFS. I hand installed my XFree86 4.0.2 and get the source RPMs, ran rpm --rebuild NVIDIA_kernel*, installed the resulting RPM (found in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS) and then ran rpm --install NVIDIA_GLX*, and then rebooted the computer for good measure, ran XFree86 and it went beautifully. (There was some library work I think, but everything you need to know is at the NVidia site under Linux Drivers, click on the FAQ). - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 5:55 AM Subject: [newbie] ReiserFS, Nvidia Driver, X 4.0.2 and 3d acceleration Does this work? Any body have this working on their machines? I reinstalled to convert to ReiserFS and now X crashes everytime I start a 3d accelerated application. No messages left in the logs except that X caught a signal 11. X 4.02 Nvidia driver 0.9.6 mandrake 7.2 Please help! Abe
Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
http://www.uxd.com/ abe Mark Weaver wrote: abe wrote: regrettably that tech is misinformed. In my time as a pc repair tech I saw many sticks of ram that passed the boot test put were infact bad. Quick tech pro is one of the best memory testers you'll find. It actually test's most of the hardware in your system. Quick tech can identify a single bad sector in ram. Good luck Abe "Myers, Dennis R NWO" wrote: I've been told by local computer techs that if your bios sees the ram at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on the first screen that shows your primary and secondary IDE devices and you can hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their advice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:31 PM To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) Subject:[newbie] Testing for bad RAM I am suspicious that my RAM is bad. Is there anyway in linux that I can confirm this? Abe, Where does one find and buy a copy of this amazing program? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Re: [newbie] (OT)Half-Life server question
"Kelly, Christopher" wrote: This is off-topic... Does anybody on this list run a Half-Life server? I was wondering, if I want to setup a Linux Half-Life server, do I need to perform a server installation of Mandrake? Or can I run it in the Normal installation? Thanks, Moose you can run it from a normal installation no problem. Abe
Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
cool. I'll check it out. Quick Tech Pro is made by the same people. I like it because it can test more then just memory. Besides, I've seen it identify single bad sectors. Pretty impressive and saves a lot fo time/money in a production environment. Abe Linux Tests wrote: Actually RAM Stress Test is able to correctly identify bad modules better than Quick Tech Pro. This is a 35 K program that was originally shareware until the owners figured out that it is better than using a $25,000 darkhorse tester ;-) Micron even tried to purchase the code because they realized that compatibililty of memory modules and timing can also be tested with RST. http://www.uxd.com I've used RST for several years - and have been able to stop all DOA shipments of RAM (company I worked for shipped GB of memory daily plus built systems with GB of memory.). On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote: ##regrettably that tech is misinformed. In my time as a pc repair tech I ##saw many sticks of ram that passed the boot test put were infact bad. ##Quick tech pro is one of the best memory testers you'll find. It ##actually test's most of the hardware in your system. Quick tech can ##identify a single bad sector in ram. ## ##Good luck ## ## ##Abe ## ## ## ## "Myers, Dennis R NWO" wrote: ## ## I've been told by local computer techs that if your bios sees the ram ## at bootup ,( in other words detects it and counts it off on the first ## screen that shows your primary and secondary IDE devices and you can ## hit del to get to bios) then the ram memory is good and should be ## functional. I am not a technician so I am relying on their advice. ## ## -Original Message- ## From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson ## Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:31 PM ## To: LinuxNewbie (E-mail) ## Subject:[newbie] Testing for bad RAM ## ## I am suspicious that my RAM is bad. Is there anyway in linux that I ## can ## confirm this?
Re: [newbie] Testing for bad RAM
I second this. Quick Tech is the program that I recommend. It is available from http://www.uxd.com as was mentioned below. It is amazing. Well worth the money. Worth its weight in gold actually. Although I do disagree with always keeping BIOS defaults. Definately keep them for ram timings and speeds but other settings need to be adjusted to achive stable peak performance from your hardware. As an example: An Asus A7V (if you have no usb devices) will boot twice as fast with "legacy USB Support" disabled and it is enabled by default. Abe "I test more ram and motherboards in an afternoon then most people touch in their entire lives" olson ;-) Linux Tests wrote: Sorry, I respectfully disagree with some of this. A techs time is too expensive to go through BIOS settings. Always stick with the BIOS defaults. Period. DO NOT make changes to your BIOS. Plus simplify the testing process. Keep the BIOS at default. Use RST - and OS independent tester - which will test compatibility issues for the complete system as well as locate any bad memory modules. In less than 3 minutes you will know if the memory is bad. http://www.uxd.com Don't waste your time swapping and pulling etc. Just get the program and be happy.(No, I'm not affiliated with Ultra-X. I just happen to use the program) On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, you wrote: ##On Wednesday 21 February 2001 02:24 pm, Heather wrote: ## On this subject of RAM incompatibility... ## ## I have a stick of RAM that someone gave me to boost me up past 64mb. ## When I first installed it it would do ok, but then it would get where ## sometimes it would show on boot up and others it wouldn't then (in ## evil windows since i haven't put it back after installing LM) my ## computer started popping up more errors and illegals than it ever had ## before. When I pulled the RAM it went back to normal (for windows). ## Is there a way for me to find out if the 2 sticks are just ## incompatible or if the 1 stick is just borked up? ## ##Not really. The only way to actually test ram is on a _very_ ##expensive, purpose built machines that very few people would ever have ##access to (lab equipment). What is more important to understand is ##just how much ram can be affected by other parts of the system. ##Particularly the motherboard, cpu, cache, etc. The best ram test apps ##like 'memtest86', actually test the whole system, so the appearance of ##errors are not necessarily due to bad ram. Also important to ##consider, is that ram is very heat and voltage tolerant, especially ##when compared to the other system components. IOW's, it's usually not ##the culprit. ## ## Most often there's no problem mixing ram sizes or "labels" (eg pc66, ##100, 133, etc). I've got two 128mb sticks, one pc100, one pc133 ##that'll run 'memtest86', L2 disabled, together for an extended time at ##155 mhz with -0- error at 3.55V. So is my pc100 mislabeled? No, ram ##is what it'll do with -0- errors over time. But I digress ## ## First check your bios settings. The settings easiest on the ram are ##the 'slow' settings. (eg, cas3-3-3, precharge disabled, no ECC for ##sdram). Then most ram problems can often be solved by moving the sticks ##to different slots and/or changing the order they're installed in. ##Sometimes just reseating the ram cures the problem. Next most likely ##culprit is the motherboard. A stick of pc66 ram that will run without ##errors at 133mhz (twice it's rated speed) in one motherboard, might not ##work reliably at all in a different (lesser) motherboard even at it's ##default 66mhz. It's just another situation that illustrates how ##important it is to base a system on a good quality motherboard and a ##good power supply. Many of the better motherboards (eg, Asus, Soyo, ##Abit, Epox, MSI, etc) provide more than the standard IO voltage to the ##ram by default (about +10%). This greatly enhances ram stability and ##performance at, or even far above it's manufacturers rating. ## ##So what'a you do? Try reseating (clean the contacts), swappin ##around, tryin in other motherboards (ie, see if it works in a different ##system), give it some more voltage (if you've got a good motherboard). ##'memtest86' is a good check in that you can toggle the L2 cache off/on. ##Many cache error problems often get blamed on the ram. If none of that ##fixes the problems, then give the ram to somebody you don't like ;) ##. and try again with a better motherboard/power supply and some new ##ram ;
Re: [newbie] Installation Recommendations
that's good recomendations, I would just like to add that the size of /swap should not necessarily be fixed at 2xram. I have 384M of ram, linux hardly ever hits my /swap. There is no reason to dedicate 768M of hard drive space in that situation. Even when I had 256 I only used a 128M /swap cause linux barely ever hit it even then. Abe
Re: [newbie] Xine and dvd playback
hey thank you Francisco. I will go check that irc channel out! Abe Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: The css plugin seems to have a problem, after installing it I just can see codified dvds. Nevertheless, the best way to solve the problem is use the irc xine channel; you can find in it some of the authors of xine and they are very kind helping you. You can su xchat, select irc.opensource and /join #xine channel; they solved my problems on line, executing xine and talking with them, it was a very funny and interesting experience :-) Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Original Message - From: abe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 12:29 AM Subject: [newbie] Xine and dvd playback I'm trying to get dvd playback working here in mandrake 7.2. I found a version of xine that includes the css plugin for playing back decrypted dvds. It installed fine. I made /dev/hdc link to /dev/dvd and made a mount point at /mnt/dvd I can mount the dvd's and browse their file structure. Xine detects the dvds, read their contents and then doesn't do anything. No sound or video. [yellow@blue yellow]$ xine This is xine - a mpeg 1, 2 player v0.3.7 - (c) 2000 by G. Bartsch. testing for audio driver: alsa oss -(successfully initialized) Using oss audio output driver. found yuy2 format found yv12 format video_out_xv: using Xvideo port 42 for hw scaling *** Settings: HUE SATURATION BRIGHTNESS CONTRASTCOLORKEY * Using X Window System video extension for video output. set_image_format_xv(): width=720, height=405, ratio=3 scaled picture size : 720 x 405 (corr_factor: 0.999323) Using MMX for IDCT transform Using 3DNOW for motion compensation input_dvd: unable to open raw dvd drive (/dev/rdvd): No such file or directory input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_dvd.so(input_dvd.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_file.so(input_file.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_net.so(input_net.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_stdin_fifo.so(input_stdin_fifo.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_vcd.so(input_vcd.so) input dvd : input_plugin_open dvd://t0c0t0 input dvd : input_plugin_open media type correct. file name is t0c0t0 IFO-mode playing title 0 from chapter 0 - chapter 0 Using ifo VTS_01_0.IFO Authenticate title: No such file or directory input_dvd: cpos_index caddr_index_max = finish input length : 0 demux_mpeg_block: checking if we can branch to dvd://t0c1t1 input_dvd: is_branch_possible to dvd://t0c1t1 ? input_dvd: branching is possible demux_mpeg_block: branching input dvd : input_plugin_open dvd://t0c1t1 input dvd : input_plugin_open media type correct. file name is t0c1t1 IFO-mode playing title 0 from chapter 1 - chapter 1 Using ifo VTS_01_0.IFO input_dvd: cpos_index caddr_index_max = finish input length : 4096 input_dvd: cpos_index caddr_index_max = finish demux_mpeg_block: checking if we can branch to dvd://t0c2t2 input_dvd: is_branch_possible to dvd://t0c2t2 ? input_dvd: branching is possible demux_mpeg_block: branching input dvd : input_plugin_open dvd://t0c2t2 input dvd : input_plugin_open media type correct. file name is t0c2t2 IFO-mode playing title 0 from chapter 2 - chapter 2 Using ifo VTS_01_0.IFO input length : 0 ac3_reset thats what happens. Anyone have any ideas? my system is: mandrake 7.2 asus v7700 geforce2 asus A7v T-Bird 900 SBLive Value Asus 8x dvd rom kernel 2.2.17 thanks for your ideas folks! Abe
Re: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd
I just got Xine working last night. I had to use a raw device for it. Check out the FAQ on thier website for how to do it. Good luck! Abe goldenpi wrote: I got it. Unfortunatly, it doesn't work. I put in a dvd, press the control on xine labeled dvd, and nothing happens. If I try for long enough xine gives a segmentation fault and I get another core dump. I think the problem is related to either my dvd being slaved to my cdrw or my sound card not being set up. But xine runs at least. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd For dvd play, better use xine (http://xine.sourceforge.net) and the css plugin.Yesterday I wached "The lost world" fine! Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Paul Rodrguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Domingo, Febrero 18, 2001 4:01 pm Asunto: RE: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd Haven't tried it yet. But this is supposed to play DVD's on linux: http://www.linuxvideo.org/news/ -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of carjam Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] winmodems, cdrw and dvd I got linux going on my good computer at last. Dad will probably kill me when he finds out where the 4 gig of his drive has gone through :( A few minor problems through. I have a winmodem. I saw someone give a link a while ago to a page whichgives instruction for getting some winmodems to work. Where is it? The cdrw. Again, people keep mantioning a page which gives instructions but I dont know where it is. the dvd drive. Does linux play dvds? I cant seem to find a dvd player rpm on any of my 3 linux cds. Are there any available? Or does the css code stop them? The sound card. Sndconfig detects it but says it is not supported. I tried sndconfig --noprobe and used every setting I thought might work but nothingwill go. I tried upgradeing alsa (is that the right package) but it says I need a newer kernel and I have no idea how to upgrade it. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[newbie] Xine and dvd playback
I'm trying to get dvd playback working here in mandrake 7.2. I found a version of xine that includes the css plugin for playing back decrypted dvds. It installed fine. I made /dev/hdc link to /dev/dvd and made a mount point at /mnt/dvd I can mount the dvd's and browse their file structure. Xine detects the dvds, read their contents and then doesn't do anything. No sound or video. [yellow@blue yellow]$ xine This is xine - a mpeg 1, 2 player v0.3.7 - (c) 2000 by G. Bartsch. testing for audio driver: alsa oss -(successfully initialized) Using oss audio output driver. found yuy2 format found yv12 format video_out_xv: using Xvideo port 42 for hw scaling *** Settings: HUE SATURATION BRIGHTNESS CONTRASTCOLORKEY * Using X Window System video extension for video output. set_image_format_xv(): width=720, height=405, ratio=3 scaled picture size : 720 x 405 (corr_factor: 0.999323) Using MMX for IDCT transform Using 3DNOW for motion compensation input_dvd: unable to open raw dvd drive (/dev/rdvd): No such file or directory input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_dvd.so(input_dvd.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_file.so(input_file.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_net.so(input_net.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_stdin_fifo.so(input_stdin_fifo.so) input plugin found : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/input_vcd.so(input_vcd.so) input dvd : input_plugin_open dvd://t0c0t0 input dvd : input_plugin_open media type correct. file name is t0c0t0 IFO-mode playing title 0 from chapter 0 - chapter 0 Using ifo VTS_01_0.IFO Authenticate title: No such file or directory input_dvd: cpos_index caddr_index_max = finish input length : 0 demux_mpeg_block: checking if we can branch to dvd://t0c1t1 input_dvd: is_branch_possible to dvd://t0c1t1 ? input_dvd: branching is possible demux_mpeg_block: branching input dvd : input_plugin_open dvd://t0c1t1 input dvd : input_plugin_open media type correct. file name is t0c1t1 IFO-mode playing title 0 from chapter 1 - chapter 1 Using ifo VTS_01_0.IFO input_dvd: cpos_index caddr_index_max = finish input length : 4096 input_dvd: cpos_index caddr_index_max = finish demux_mpeg_block: checking if we can branch to dvd://t0c2t2 input_dvd: is_branch_possible to dvd://t0c2t2 ? input_dvd: branching is possible demux_mpeg_block: branching input dvd : input_plugin_open dvd://t0c2t2 input dvd : input_plugin_open media type correct. file name is t0c2t2 IFO-mode playing title 0 from chapter 2 - chapter 2 Using ifo VTS_01_0.IFO input length : 0 ac3_reset thats what happens. Anyone have any ideas? my system is: mandrake 7.2 asus v7700 geforce2 asus A7v T-Bird 900 SBLive Value Asus 8x dvd rom kernel 2.2.17 thanks for your ideas folks! Abe
Re: [newbie] Linux dvd player
videolan is REALLY REALLY BETA still. can't stop a playing track just pause it. can't change to a new track without exiting the prog and restarting it. I could never get xine to work either. It installed ok but I couldn't get it to play anythign but the occasional mpg from the web. Similarly OMS wouldn't compile on my system either. rg. I'm gonna through a party when I can play a dvd in linux. Abe goldenpi wrote: I cant get it to compile :( I get hundreds of errors in the source. Probably something with my version of gcc. I can never get anything to compile. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux dvd player Xine is running well instead it is only in the 0.37 release http://xine.sourceforge.net. OMS seem to have still problems. I am waiting to use videoland(www.videoland.org) some people said that it is also good. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: "Curtis Von Lintel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Viernes, Febrero 16, 2001 11:29 pm Asunto: [newbie] Linux dvd player Anybody tried it yet. I know it only became offical today..but still after a year there has to be a few people getting it running today. Heres the linkage http://www.linuxvideo.org/news/ Curtis
Re: [newbie] want my linux work faster and networking
ROFL! 12 gayge? I'm thinking slugs. Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 15 February 2001 08:06 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: isn't there a way to filter HTML mail from the list? We could issue 12 ga shotguns ? -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Window Maker desktop screenshot
Dave wrote: Here's my promised Window Maker desktop screenshot: http://www.users.qwest.net/~dcsherman/dms/desktop1.png Dave hey here's my windowmaker desktop. I just figured out how to take screen captures and I thought I'd share ;-) http://www.foramenmagnum.net/windowmaker.html abe
Re: [newbie] VIA KT133A ANd duron support
I had to pass the location of my ATA100 controllers to the kernel at boot time for the install but other then that all is well on my A7V Western Digital ata100 drive T-Bird 900 My brother has a similar system except a duron 600. Abe P_dog wrote: I have the KT133A chipset and a Anthlon 800 duron and I just did a regular install and all three hdd's where detected just fine. No additional steps where needed here. Amd Anthlon 800 (duron, which has thunderbird stepping) Tyan kt400 MB (kt133 chipset) 384 meg ram two WD hdd 45 gig ata/100 7200rpm one WD hdd 18 gig ata/66 5400rpm works just fine unless im too stupid to know its not working :) - Original Message - From: "Lanman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] VIA KT133A ANd duron support None that I know of, except for the ATA100 IDE Interface. You have to connect your hard drives to the ATA33/66 Interface first, do the install, then edit some files to support the ATA 100 interface, then shutdown, change connections then restart. That's how it's done with an Asus A7V. Mine rocks! On Thursday 08 February 2001 09:02, you wrote: Anyone knows if mandrake 7.2 has any problems with viakt133A chipsets and duron prossesors Knut -- Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712
Re: [newbie] Desktop
yea, windowmaker is pretty much it for desktops. Fast, light, pretty, intuitive, customizable and all your favorite gnome and kde apps work just fine with it. What not to like? Abe Ribbo wrote: Tanggal 08 Feb 2001, Dave Sherman mengatakan, Mmmm Window Maker sound of Homer Simpson drooling wmaker rocks... :) gkrellm -w exec wmaker --no-clip --no-dock Dave Sherman SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid quid latine dictum sit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] altum viditur." (763) 569-9839 -- Ribbo "All voices scream to pain." -- Klesk, Quake III Arena.
Re: [newbie] Goodbye
I used SUSE for a while. I didn't like the distro much (Why mount cdrom on / when there is a /mnt directory?!?! Why god why?) and I found that their mail list was little to no help at all. in fact I never once received a single reply to my requests for assistance. Hope your experience is better then mine was. Abe GECOS wrote: Hello All, Saturday evening my HDD failed, installed a new one today with mixed feelings about Mandrake, on the failed HDD I had 6 failed installs before everything went well, this time I gave up after **8** failed installs, different error everytime, I was very disappointed, but decided to look elsewhere, SuSE 6.3 first time right (5+GB) Corel Linux v2 from my daughter again first time installed without any problems. So I'm joining SuSE now. Cheers, Herman
Re: [newbie] Linuxworld Expo NYC
I would love to go but I am in washington, unemployed and going to school full time. Have fun! Abe Christopher Molnar wrote: On Sunday 28 January 2001 17:23, A V Flinsch wrote: Anyone from the list going? Interested in getting together for coffee/beer/lunch whatever? Look for me at the Mandrake Booth. -Chris
Re: [newbie] Asus A7V Ata 100 Controller
hey, could you post the out put of hdparm -Tt /dev/hde for me? I've been tweaking my drive settings and I can't seem to get the drive on ATA100 controller to perform even equal to how it did on the ATA66 controller. I get: [root@ilinisa abe]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hde /dev/hde: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 1.04 seconds =123.08 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 7.16 seconds = 8.94 MB/sec [root@ilinisa abe]# Abe Robert Wertzler wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2001 09:30, you wrote: Hi there, I need to know how to get linux mandrake 7.1 to see the drives on my ATA 100 controller, when I run the commands ide2=0x8400,0x8002 ide3=0x7800,0x7402 my system will see the drives attached to the controller then give me will just "hang there my kernel will not boot any further. Can anyone tell me what to do. Kind regards Wayne Rolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Wayne, Try looking for Kernel 2.2.16-10. I found it by way of the Linux Hardware Database. The version referred to there is in the SuSE 7.0 ftp site (I'm running SuSE, not Mandrake). When I tried the boot image given there my installer hung, probably because the DVD drive and boot HD (on the regular IDE dontroller) got bollixed up somehow trying to run at EIDE66. The stock boot disk worked better, then I installed the new Kernel rpm and the UDMA 100 controller and disks work fine. I did try installing Makdrake 7 on this machine, but that was when I had some bad RAM and nothing worked right, so I can't really compare the distros on this issue. With the 2.2.16-10 installed and UDMA enabled, and a 1GHx Athlon, it is quick, very, very quick. Bob Wertzler
Re: [newbie] Asus A7V Ata 100 Controller
hey wayne, let me be te first to say that you should turn off HTML mail as it will enrage some otherwise perfectly coherent people to the point of insanity. So, if you want to reach the widest possible group of people for answers to your questions and generally be a good member of the online community, send all your email as plain ASCII text. As far as your motherboard goes, my first thought is that those addresses might not be the ones that are actually in use on your machine. If this is a dual boot machine you can find those I/O addresses in the device mangler under windows. You use the first four addresses and add 2 to the second and fourth. Lke this 8400-8407 8000-8003 7800-7807 7400-7403 yields ide2=0x8400,0x8002 ide3=0x7800,0x7402 If those numbers are correct for your machine then I don't know what your problem might be. I have limited experience with trouble shooting ATA100 controllers on A7V's because I've been lucky so far good luck! Abe Wayne Rolfe wrote: Hi there, I need to know how to get linux mandrake 7.1 to see the drives on my ATA 100 controller, when I run the commands ide2=0x8400,0x8002 ide3=0x7800,0x7402 my system will see the drives attached to the controller then give me will just "hang there my kernel will not boot any further. Can anyone tell me what to do. Kind regards Wayne Rolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: [newbie] A7V and dual boot]
I'm trying to help my brother get a dual boot going with mandrake and win98se on an A7V. His windows drive is an ATA 100 drive on the primary ATA100 controller. His mandrake drive is an ata66 drive on the primary ata66 drive. I can get mandrake to see the ATA100 drive by passing ide2=0x8400,0x8002 ide3=0x7800,0x7402 to lilo at boot time. I've set lilo up to include that so that he can mount/browse his windows drive from linux. However, I cannot figure out how to configure lilo to successfully boot to the windows drive. Has anyone done this or does anyone know how to do this? I read the lilo man pages but I couldn't find an answer to my question. Please help! Abe
Re: [newbie] KDE Update Problems
actually, kde.org does have both .src.rpms and i586.rpms for mandrake 7.2 available. I downloaded and installed them last night. Abe Todd Flinders wrote: http://rpmfind.net reports this as "Mandrake Cooker": http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/cooker//unsupported/i586//kdelibs-sound-2.0.1-2mdk.i586.html However, you should only use this if you are using the Cooker version of Mandrake. I did not see this .rpm for normal Mandrake. Maybe http://www.kde.org has one you can compile yourself??? I don't know. :( --- Barry Premeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reinstalled 7.2 recently which, naturally wiped out my KDE2.0.1 and KDE2.1beta updates. I didn't make backup copies of those files since I figured I could get them off the web. I wanted to start with the stable version of KDE2.0.1 but am having problems with kdelibs-2.0.1-2mdk.i586.rpm. It has conflicts with kdelibs-sound-2.0-5mdk. When I originally updated to 2.0.1, there was a kdelibs-sound-2.0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm file. I have not been able to find the sound library file on any of the mirrors. Can anyone help me on this? TIA Barry :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] A7V and dual boot
I'm trying to help my brother get a dual boot going with mandrake and win98se on an A7V. His windows drive is an ATA 100 drive on the primary ATA100 controller. His mandrake drive is an ata66 drive on the primary ata66 drive. I can get mandrake to see the ATA100 drive by passing ide2=0x8400,0x8002 ide3=0x7800,0x7402 to lilo at boot time. I've set lilo up to include that so that he can mount/browse his windows drive from linux. However, I cannot figure out how to configure lilo to successfully boot to the windows drive. Has anyone done this or does anyone know how to do this? I read the lilo man pages but I couldn't find an answer to my question. Please help! Abe
Re: [newbie] Real Audio Player
Tafta Zani wrote: Hi,everyone Could any one tell me where can i get Real Audio Player for Linux? or is it any other player for real audio format? Tafta Z http://www.real.com real8 is available for linux. You download it the same way you download the windows version.
Re: [newbie] Re: I want Micro-EMACS
What? I do all of my text editing/writing in emacs and I have the downloaded verison. I can't imagine that the "complete" version wouldn't have it since the download version is basically the first to disks of the other versions. Fire up drakconf, start the package manager there, choose installing and search for emacs. You'll find it. Abe Len Lawrence wrote: On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, civileme wrote: Ummm, do you realize that the install of 7.2 you made probably has both emacs and xemacs? These run like Micro-EMACS (same commands plus some features) without a new compile. The 7.2 Complete distribution does not appear to have emacs. I had to install xemacs, which is fortunately able to use most of my old customization file (.emacs), although there are one or two keys which can no longer be used. The one link I found for a port of Micro-EMACS to linux _says_ it is GPL, but the original text from the author suggests it is shareware. It compiles easily, it runs nicely (in a terminal), and it supports a nice subset of emacs commands. The port does use French messages. It runs from whatever directory you put the binary into after compiling. It appears to demand that any files edited BE in that directory, because it doesn't appear to support directory paths. ftp.ac-grenoble.fr/ge/Office/microemacs-5.03.tgz is the link I used. I don't think I will use MicroEMACS unless I have a very limited machine. I would dearly miss the color-coding of c, bash, perl, and python source. Civileme -- Len Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] HDparm question
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/272 abe "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: How do I use HDparm to optimize my HD settings? Thanks guys, Chris Kelly --- Men are from Earth Women are from Earth Deal with it...
Re: [newbie] problem installin mozilla 0.7
I use netscape 4.76 and occasionally Mozilla. Netscape 6 is slow, bloated and unstable IMO. I haven't found any websites that netscpae 4.76 can't view yet. Can you send me a link to one? I'm curious ;-) Abe "Jesse C. Chang" wrote: Emiliano Ogando wrote: I need two files for install mozilla 0.7: Libstoc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 libc.so.6 (Glibc-2.2) where can I download it?? Try searching for them at www.rpmfind.com With any luck, they won't be RPM 4. :) Out of curiosity, is it just me, or does Mozilla 0.7 crash a lot? I've also had some problems with Netscape 6. I tend to use Netscape 4.73 the most, since it seems to be faster and more stable, though there are some pages 4.73 is unable to view. Jesse -- !! Jesse C. Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [___] `|' "I have the simplest tastes. I am always /|\ satisfied with the best." -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [newbie] Kernel optimizations for AMD Athlon
with the 2.2.x series you can use PPro. If your using the 2.4.x kernel there is a K7 optimization option. "Blomquist, Niklas" wrote: Hello! Witch kernel optimizations should I use for a AMD Athlon? /Niklas
Re: [newbie] Kernel optimizations for AMD Athlon
it depends really. I usually go through and remove kernel support for everything that I don't have/use. This and the processor optimizations usually give me a little bit of performance increase. The last time I did it I benchmarked quake3 before and after. There was a 15fps increase with the newly compiled kernel. Not a lot but noticeable if your machine is hovering around 40fps. The two things I do to a stock mandrake install that seem to result in the most noticeable speed increase are: 1. Recompile X and all apps that I use regularly- vast speed improvement here. Windowmaker opens within a second of hitting enter after typing startx. The gimp is open and running in one second. Yes, one. I just timed it. Konqueror (an app I don't recompile) 2 seconds. 2. Hdparm: before optimizations netscape takes five or more seconds to open. After it takes around 2. Boot up speed is not affected because I place the optimizations in rc.local so it gets run at the end of boot up. Basically no single thing adds a lot of speed to the machine but all of these things in conjunciton do quite a bit to speed up the machine. Abe Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Would this really make a difference in speed/performance? Most of what I've read regarding kernel recompiles say that there's not much to be gained from it. On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:36, abe wrote: with the 2.2.x series you can use PPro. If your using the 2.4.x kernel there is a K7 optimization option. "Blomquist, Niklas" wrote: Hello! Witch kernel optimizations should I use for a AMD Athlon? /Niklas -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. "There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] linux-win lan thoughts.......
are you using DHCP on the windows machines or static IP's? Quaylar wrote: hiho... as u will possibly know from various earlier posts i am trying to connect a linux and a win machine through thin ethernet. up to now i was having the problem that the 2 machines were not able to ping each other although everything was set right on both sides.. now i found a posting on deja where a guy described the same problem, he was stating that his lan was working IF: he first powered up the win machine and THEN the linux machine.. so i tried this and it really worked, the lan works when i am first powering up the win machine and then the linux machine, vice versa i get ping timeouts.. has anyone of u already experienced this or can anyone give any hints on this phenomenon ?... any thoughts will be appreciated..;) --quay -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power
Re: [newbie] Unable to see cdrom
there is no such directory as /root/mnt/cdrom it is /mnt/cdrom Mike Baker wrote: I installed version 7.2 from cdrom. It is an ide reader only. /etc/fstab includes the line:- /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 I am trying to use the install cd because it is requested by DrakConf when I am trying to install an extra ethernet card, however it fails to find the cdrom. If I type:- ls /mnt/cdrom I get:- ls: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error If I try to access /Root/mnt/cdrom from Konqueror I get:- unable to enter file:/mnt/cdrom. You do not have access rights to this location. I would be very grateful if anyone can help me. Mike Baker aka [RaG]Pixie[MwG] Frag Fest LAN Parties www.fragfest.f2s.com
Re: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow
you can buy a domain for 15 USD a year at http://www.directnic.com For your internal network? Just make one up. I usually use my computer name plus my ISP. example would be bob.earthlink.net I guess I could be making a horrible mistake here but it's never seemed to cause any problems. Bob Currey wrote: As I'm reading this, the install's host name prompt screen sits in front of me. Because of my setup, I am always lost in the how-tos as far as host name is concerned. At the moment, I'm loading a new server. For the time being, it will have eth0 connected to my home net, getting an IP address via the DHCP server on my other Linux box which is currently the server. The 2nd NIC at eth1 is not connected at present, and won't be used till I replace the old server with this new one, and then eth1 will run a DHCP server for the home LAN. The fact that I don't have a Domain has caused me tremendous grief, in that setting up Apache, Samba, a DNS server, the FTP server, the Proxy server, etc, all expect one, when you read the how-tos. For someone not a Linux guru, it makes the stuff incomprehensible, as nothing fits. For that reason, I ended up giving up at least for the time being on installing them on my server (both the old one and new one), but would be very grateful if someone could explain what I'm supposed to fill in when they want you to put in your domain name in these setups. I spent many hours reading and never understood how to set them up as a result. I imagine anyone else with a home LAN that doesn't have a domain name (and this would be normal, I'd expect) would be having the same trouble. Any clues would be appreciated The reload is almost completed (at the cost of an afternoon), and I'm guessing from what you say, I'll have the same problem again. BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose M. Sanchez Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow Sounds like a resolver issue. Most applications, including X need to be able to resolv hostnames to IP addresses. This even if it's only locally. If X cannot determine a local IP then X will not come up right away. Rather the applications will hang up until they time out, then things will run until you hit the next application. I'll also bet that you get a similiar pause during the boot when the mail daemons are initialized. Check your settings, something is wrong. Your system doesn't know it's own name! -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Help! new 7.2 system has gotten abominably slow It started yesterday, after there was a power failure. Its a dual PIII - 600 with 1/2 gb SDRAM and dual UW SCSI with dual UW 5.4 ms Barracuda drives. The video is a Creative Labs Savage4 with 32 mb. No, it can't be slow!!! Without running X its horribly slow. With X, its unbelievably slow. Without X, if I bring up pine, its 2 MINUTES for the screen to come up!!! startx takes 10 MINUTES to come up. The tips wizard is 15 MINUTES later. The drives are barely being hit. The NIC isn't flashing. There are no error messages on the screens except the 2nd NIC failing at boot (which I expect, until I connect it to the cable modem, in the meantime, its just a station on my internal home LAN). It seems like pine runs at normal speed (comparatively) once its up. pico seems to come up fine by itself. Am I at another reload? Any suggestions how to diagnose? I shut it down, powered back up, and when that didn't fix it, I rebooted and ran full tests on the drives, checked the BIOS setup. Then I tried windoze 98 and it runs fine. Shutdown is quick, too, for some reason... Help! BobC
Re: [newbie] drakxtools
just to add a little perspective here, most american states are larger then other COUNTRIES. In europe it is not uncommon to be able to cross an entire country in a few hours by car. Yes, a few hours of driving and you are in a region with different Laws, customs, culture, etc. I revently drove from seattle washington to columbus georgia. Go to yahoo and check out that route. It took 3 1/2 days of continuous (24hours a day in rotation) driving at between 60 and 100mph. Nebraska took almost 9 hours to cross at 90 mph. Montana takes around 12 to go west to east across. Huge stretches of this country are open land with a small town every few hundred miles. An airport might be 6 or 7 hours drive away. An airline ticket to England from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport costs between 500 and 900 dollars for round trip (depending on the season). The average income in very small towns like trout creek montana (9 hours from seattle at 90mph) is around 5000 a year. You do the math on electricity, food, gas etc costs and tell me why more americans don't go to europe or asia let alone New York or L.A. or other large American cities. I'm not apologizing for the colloquialism of my fellow americans I merely hope to cast some realistic details into the conversation. Abe John Rye wrote: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:49:00 -0500 (EST), Mark Weaver said: I would think that it would be one of two things that cause this. 1) plain old American arrogance NO comment !! 2) a very "small" world view caused mainly by spending too much time in ones own back yard and not having enough contact with the outside world. Yes - it does seem for the visitor that there is a 'small world view' A year or so ago, I spent a few weeks in the US, and was really surprised at the numbers of people I met who hadn't been 'Out of STATE" let alone the country. America being as big "physically" speaking as it is I wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that 80% of its population has never been out of the country. I could 'understand' people I met who didn't know where my country was, or that It's best known after all for it's ability to hold off a concerted invasion attempt by the US Military for nearly 20 years only by means of Flour-bags and Rubber Duckies!! However, that I seemed to know more about the general physical geography of North America was a real stunner!! I remember one young woman who was amazed that one could sit in an aircraft for 15 hours without even seeing land just getting to the US, and THEN spend another 5 or 6 hours getting from one side to the other!!! The same young woman was later heard to argue with another about the difference between Texans and Arizonians - her primary argument being that one must be more suntanned than the other - 'because of all the desert'!! That doesn't include Canada or Mexico. I'm referring to off the continent adventures and such. Its surprising how different the outlook and attitude of the Europeans is from that of the Americans. Being an American myself the difference between the European and American world views is sometimes startlingly great. I think you all think that, I think I know that you all think that, I just wish that we all knew that we all knew that we all thought that !! grin It would be a wonderful world if ALL it's (the worlds') population realised just how small this speck of interplanetary dust we inhabit is!! Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] drakxtools
haven't had any of those, yet. Hopefully I won't any time soon either ;-) Meph Istopheles wrote: The average income in very small towns like trout creek montana (9 hours from seattle at 90mph) You're neglection the variable time involved on the shoulder of the 90 while the trooper writes you up lectures you on speeding;-). Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
[newbie] Nist -DVD software for linux
Has anyone used nist to playback DVD's? I keep reading the docum,entation I can find but it isn't very clear how it is supposed to work. It appears that it relies on a program called mpeg2player but I can't find anyprogram called that. Does the readme mean to point it at AN mpeg2player? Does the DVD have to be mounted? The read me does not answer any of these questions. Any feed back will be greatly appreciated. Abe
Re: [newbie]
bad/old cdrom drive? What is your hardware specifically? We need an exact and comprehensive list in order to help you. Abe Judith Crews wrote: i have the "linux-mandrake 7.2 complete" package and it came with 4 discs (1-installation cd, 2-extension cd, 3-1st application cd, 4-2nd application cd). i have attempted to install this going on 20 times now and every time i have had the same problem. first, it never asks for any of the other discs. i don't know if this is normal or not, but it isn't a big problem because i can just install the other rpms myself. the main problem is that it has only actually installed one time (when i did the minimum installation). every other time i have tried installing it, it has crashed during installation. it is uninstalled right now and it will not install in any size installation. it always gets errors during the installation of the rpms. the last time i installed it, i typed "text mem=384 all expert" with a 23mb /boot, a 256mb swap, and a ~5gb /. and i got this error: An error occurred error installing package list: kdelibs-sound-2.0-5mdk, cups-1.1.4-3mdk, clanlib-0.4.4-11mdk, guile-1.4-6mdk, umb-scheme-3.2-14mdk, Hermes-1.3.2-2mdk, gd-1.8.1-4mdk ,and then it proceeded to unmount the filesystems and tell me it's safe to reboot, without installing linux. i have also tried "linux mem=384M all expert" and made a 23mb /boot, 256mb swap, 1gb /home, 2gb /usr, 2gb /, 500mb /root, 150mb /tmp, 150mb /var, and i still got a similar message but with different packages listed and it asked me if i wanted to continue anyways. after i clicked yes it gave me another error with even more packages, and it goes that way for about 5 turns, listing new packages each time. then it unmounts and tells me i can reboot, without installing. i'm trying to install this on a p3 600 dell with a 42x cd-rom, a 13gb hda with windows, a 45gb hdb with mp3s, and a 6gb hdc for mandrake. i have 384mb ram and an ati rage pro mach64 8mb video card. i don't know much more about the technical info of my computer that would be relevant. if you need more info, just let me know and i will find out if i can. thanks for any help you can provide _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE
because it manages to be slow and clunky even on a t-bird 900 with 384 megs of ram? ;-) Just poking fun. Ignore me. Enlightenment is pretty but I've never been satisfied with its performance. The sawfish/gnome combination is really pretty good but not as good as windowmaker is in my opinion. I rely on KDE for my root account because mandrake's configuration tools are best integrated into KDE and I want to be a bit uncomfortable when I'm loged in as root to encourage myself to do what I need to and get out ;-) Abe Thio Yu Jin wrote: Why is Enlightenment so much better than KDE or Gnome? Jin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John MacCallum Sent: 17 January 2001 13:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jesse C. Chang; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: GNOME or KDE On 1/16/01 11:09 PM, "Jesse C. Chang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip David Morgan wrote: The burning question of the night: What do most people prefer to use, GNOME or KDE? Neither, except for administrational needs. Otherwise, I'm a WindowMaker Englightenment devotee Same here. I use KDE when running as root. Otherwise, it's Enlightenment all the way. I can't wait until E 0.17 and EFM are released. Jesse Yup, me too. Enlightenment is fantastic. I've also used AfterStep and WindowMaker and like them a lot, but it's all about Enlightenment. John
[newbie] NIC question
I recently bought two new NIC cards for a firewall/router box. THey are Linksys LNE100TX's. I swapped one of em into my existing box because I've done that thign with two identical network cards in one box and I'm not doing it again ;-) I had no problems. My old NIC used the tulip driver and the new one does as well. Here's the weird part. The new installation detected the NIC and asked me to pick a module from a list. I tried every single module on that list and none of them worked. However as soon as the installation was done I logged in as root and fired up linuxconf, assigned the tulip driver the eth0 and all my IP information, restarted the network service and all was well. I'm sure you can see you I am confused. Why didn't/couldn't the install process make the tulip driver work? As an aside, has anyone used the linux driver that comes with linksys NIC's? I'm thinking about giving it a try. As an educational pursuit ;-) Thanks for your input folks! Abe
Re: [newbie] Mandrake / Redhat
mandrake installs better on more systems and the community is nicer and more fun to be a part of ;-) Abe Dan Belkie wrote: In a debate over Flavors of Linux, How different would you say Mandrake is from Redhat? Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02
your good but you also need freetype2. You may already have it since I think it is a dependency for rebuilding the src.rpm anyway. Abe Chris Hall wrote: H... I can't really help you now because I've never installed using RPM's. :( I've always used the tar files. I'm sure someone else can tho. - Original Message - From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02 Thank you Chris, Your advice is to download .tgz files, but I have already downloaded the XFree4.02 rpm source file. I've just finished to rebuild the files from the source file, and now I have the following files built : -rw-r--r--1 root root 1274861 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 10686424 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1101761 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 622913 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-Xnest-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1675192 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 385112 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1967017 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-devel-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 9273769 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-doc-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 622058 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-glide-module-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 2128405 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-libs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 6343726 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-server-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1756340 Jan 18 22:01 XFree86-static-libs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 422201 Jan 18 22:02 XFree86-xfs-4.0.2-4mdk.i686.rpm Is it enuf ?? With my XFree3.3.6 install, I saw that I have the following files not created for Xfree4.02 : XFree86-XF86Setup XFree86-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts XFree86-SVGA XFree86-VGA16 XFree86-server-common Do I have to find them for this upgrade ? Do I need anything else ? Thank you. Francois - On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote: You need to go download the binaries for your system from ftp.xfree86.org. Here is a list of the minimum files you need: Xinstall.sh extract Xbin.tgz Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xfnts.tgz Xfenc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xvar.tgz Xxserv.tgz Xmod.tgz Just put them in the same directory and type "sh Xinstall.sh". It will ask you a couple of questions. I said no to the first question and left the answers as default to the rest. Fairly easy to do. Good luck and I hope this helps! - Original Message - From: "Francois Massonneau" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: [newbie] Upgrade to XFree4.02 Hi, I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with XFree3.3.6 I guess (that's the one that comes with Mdke7.1) I would like to upgrade XFree4.02, so I downloaded a file named "XFree86-4.0.2-4mdk.src.rpm" To rebuild it, I've got to upgrade 4 files (freetype... and VGlide ). While I'm writting this message, I'm rebuilding this XFree source rpm file. Now the questions : - Do I need something else ? - How do I do to install this new XFree. ? - Do I have to uninstall XFree3.3.6 then install 4.02 ? All your help will be very appreciated, because I 'm really afraid about that upgrade. Thank you. Francois
Re: [newbie] BIG UGLY STUPID DOTTY FONTS STINK
if you are dual booting try using DrakFont to get some true type fonts from windows. Heck, try pointing Drakfont at a windows CD if you don't dual boot. It might work I haven't tried that yet Abe Vic wrote: Hello list. we;ll the subject line says it all, how do I get RID of these BIG UGLY STUPID DOTTY FONTS that just barged in and took up residence on my Mandrake 7.2 ? I HATE THEM Please help soon, I can't make good use of my mandrake with the apps going way off the screen and making themselves generally un-manageable.
Re: [newbie] No hard disk
Be aware of any IRQ sharing with the promise controller. In windows sharing seems to work ok with that device but I've had some serious problems in linux. The (can't remember for sure) third or fourth pci slot from the top (agp slot) always shares with the promise controller. If you really have problems you may need to move that device to a different slot altogether. Abe Dan LaBine wrote: Dear Micha; You can't install Mandrake, because you don't have any free partitions left. You said that you had 3 - 10Gb partitions all formatted with DOS? you need at least one partition UNFORMATTED for Mandrake. It will format the partition for Linux-Mandrake while it is installing. If all 3 partitions are already formatted for DOS/Windows, there is no place for Mandrake. Also, check the CD that came with your ASUS board. See if it has a driver section for the Promise ATA100 adapter on the M/B. There may be a Linux Driver on it. If your BIOS doesn't detect the drive, check the drive to make sure that the jumpers on it are set to Master. If they are, replace your IDE cable (it may be defective,..but probably not). Borrow another IDE drive and see if your BIOS will detect it. If it does, there may be a problem with your drive. In any case, you'll have to delete one partition (the second one is your best bet) in order to make room for Mandrake. Make sure that you back up your data first! Good luck! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Micha POZARZYCKI" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:40 AM Subject: [newbie] No hard disk Hi everybody! I've got a problem with Mandrake 7.2 installation. All goes well until the programme asks me for existing SCSII driver. Recording to the manual of my motherbard (ASUS VIA 761 Chipset) there is a driver Promise. There is no such a driver in the list I have to choose from. Anyway I try to say no SCSII device and then the programme say there is no valid device where the file system can be placed, check for hardware error. My hard disk is Seagate Barracuda IDE 30,8GB, so I assume that thye error is not connected with possible SCSII device error that I probably do. An additional information is that my BIOS doesn't detect hard disk, the field Primery Master say None when booting. Also in the Bios Setup when I choose autodetect Primery Master the Bios doesn't recognize any data (like PIO level or UDMA level). When I set Secondary Master autodetect it chooses CD-recorder and gets the information on PIO or UDMA. Sorry if I haven't included enough information - I'm not to good at it. I am very determined to install Linux on my desktop, but can't deal with that stuff. If it helps the windows 98 goes almost well and it recognizes all my three partitions of the drive, which have been made by firm I bought the computer from (thay used Partition Magic or some stuff that sounds similiar, made three partitions 10GB each, and the partitions are in the format compatibile with DOS or smth.) Appreciate any comment michal
Re: [newbie] No hard disk
you've got an A7v? Promise 100 controller? the mandrake 7.2 installer down't recognize that controller correctly at boot time. You have to pass the loader a command to get it to work. I can't remember the hack though ;-( Try looking at http://www.mandrakeforum.com for it. You could also search the archives for this list. Abe Micha POZARZYCKI wrote: Hi everybody! I've got a problem with Mandrake 7.2 installation. All goes well until the programme asks me for existing SCSII driver. Recording to the manual of my motherbard (ASUS VIA 761 Chipset) there is a driver Promise. There is no such a driver in the list I have to choose from. Anyway I try to say no SCSII device and then the programme say there is no valid device where the file system can be placed, check for hardware error. My hard disk is Seagate Barracuda IDE 30,8GB, so I assume that thye error is not connected with possible SCSII device error that I probably do. An additional information is that my BIOS doesn't detect hard disk, the field Primery Master say None when booting. Also in the Bios Setup when I choose autodetect Primery Master the Bios doesn't recognize any data (like PIO level or UDMA level). When I set Secondary Master autodetect it chooses CD-recorder and gets the information on PIO or UDMA. Sorry if I haven't included enough information - I'm not to good at it. I am very determined to install Linux on my desktop, but can't deal with that stuff. If it helps the windows 98 goes almost well and it recognizes all my three partitions of the drive, which have been made by firm I bought the computer from (thay used Partition Magic or some stuff that sounds similiar, made three partitions 10GB each, and the partitions are in the format compatibile with DOS or smth.) Appreciate any comment michal
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
have you checked out this? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ Its for 7.2 but the principal is the same. In fact I also suggest that you update to 7.2. It is truly a beautiful thing ;-) Abe Vic wrote: I can't find it, is there anyone on this list who can find this info please. I am asking all subscribers who might have a clue please. Thank you and much appreciuated to those woh can give me the into On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2001 09:23 pm, Vic wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Yes, I'm afraid there is a kludge with 7.0, solved with 7.1 and perfected with 7.2. there was a fix/tutorial on Mandrakes web page, but it's no longer there. Best I can remember it had to do with the needed "append=ide-scsi" linked wrong. Is that broken and can't use cdrecorder? I have a Plextor W8432T and kernel 2.2.14-15mdk will it work or am I screwed? no, if you can find the fix, that's the best damn CD-RW with any OS. I have AMD K6 400 64Mb sysram I can mount the drive on /dev/hdd as a cdrom, but I already have a cdrom so thats no good as a recorder. that's the way to do it. My Cdrom is hdc, my Plex 8432t is hdd. Here's the deal, search for the 7.0-CDRW fix, it's just a simple 'ln -s something havin to do with linking the hdd as ide to hdd as scuzzy, scd0 Sorry, I just can't remember. Try the mailing list archives, or email Mandrake. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Leaving
Bya Paul. Come back soon! Paul wrote: Hi folks, I have to leave the list. I've had a lot of fun here, and learnt a big lot, but the amount of mail we all generate is becoming too much for me to handle. THanks for all the help and advice, and keep it Linux! Paul
Re: [newbie] Slow computer with MD 7.2
hey, I'll tell you what I do to make mandrake really scream. 1. HDparm. Read this article. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/272 That oughta get your hard drive going as bit faster. 2. recompile the kernel and get rid of everything you don't use. If you've never done this, email me personally and I'll write you a step by step. You can simply change the cpu optimizations to PPro and rebuild your current kernel if you don't want to change anything drastic. This will make your machine quite a bit faster. I gained 15 fps in quake3 simply by recompiling. 3. Download .src.rpms of all your favorite programs from the linux/mandrake/7.2/SRPMS/ directory on one of the mirrors fo 7.s and recompile them. 4. recompile X if you can. Doing this speeded up my system comsiderably. 5. Use a windowmanager that is small and light eg. Windowmaker, Blackbox, raw sawfish, I'm sure others fall into that catagory but I haven't used them yet ;-) Good luck and feel free to write me off the list if you have any really indepth questions. Abe "Blomquist, Niklas" wrote: Hi all! I have just download the MD 7.2 and installed it om my computer. It's a Asus AV7, AMD 1000MHz, 256MB Ram, 3 Harddrives. I magages to get the ATA100 to work, but it s l o w. It takes log time before the program starts and it takes log time to start the computer. I did run MD 6 or 7 before, but my grafic card wasn't supported (asus 7100, gefore2 MX). And tha was working fine, exept for I just got 640*480 :-) Any suggestions? Regards Niklas Blomquist
Re: [newbie] glide V3 libraries
you are using X 4.01 aren't you. Glide doesn't work with X 4.01. You have to use opengl as your renderer. Go to /usr/local/games/ut/System and edit UnrealTournament.ini. Here is what it should look like [Engine.Engine] GameRenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice WindowedRenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice RenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice THen scroll down to the openGL subsection and make sure that the setting look good for your hardware. [OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice] UseGammaExtension=1 UseModulatedGamma=0 OpenGLLibName=libGL.so MinDepthBits=16 MaxLogUOverV=8 MaxLogVOverU=8 UseMultiTexture=1 UsePalette=1 UseAlphaPalette=0 ShareLists=0 AlwaysMipmap=0 DoPrecache=0 Translucency=True VolumetricLighting=True ShinySurfaces=True Coronas=True HighDetailActors=True DetailTextures=True UseTrilinear=False this is an opengl section for a geforce2 card. You'll need to make these changes for sure: UseTNT=0 UseS3TC=0 OpenGLLibName=libGL.so should point to libMesaVoodoo or something. I don't remember off hand. Good luck! Abe Chris wrote: Hi, I'm under the impression that I cannot play 3dfx-based games on my LM 7.2 system unless I download and compile the 2.4 kernel. Is this true? I have installed the Glide V3 and Device 3dfx libraries, yet Unreal Tournament is unable to locate the Glide drivers. It exits with a segfault. I have tried to do "insmod 3dfx" to load /dev/3dfx (as root), but it says the module is not there. So there is no /dev/3dfx, even though the device 3dfx package is supposed to be installed already. Mandrake tech support will not help, even though I registered with them. The information at Lokigames is discouraging at best, because it implies that 3dfx will not work unless I install the 2.4 kernel and several other packages, including some sources. Is there any easy way around this? Thanks, Chris
Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM
it means you have to do something different. If you are using 7.2 go here and follow the instructions carefully and it will work. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ Something to remember, when you are dealing with hardware problems in linux always tells us exactly what hardware we are working with. DvdRom's are different from CDRoms are different from CDRW's. Include make model and type and which version of mandrake you are using and you'll get useful help much faster. Abe Allton Paul wrote: yes it is does that mean I cant use it, or have to do somethign different ... -Original Message- From: abe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM is it perchance a cdrw? Allton Paul wrote: tried it, first umount'ed and then mount'ed and still got "Input/Output error" -Original Message- From: Jim Warwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM have you tried to mount the cdrom? mnt cdrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allton Paul Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM I am experiencing "have 256Mb, linux only sees 64Mb" syndrome. I've tried adding append="mem=256M" in lilo.conf and restarted, but to no avail. Is there anything else I can do, it's horrible using 64Mb. Also .. despite using the cdrom for installation, when I'm actually in linux I cannot access it. I get Input/Output errors. http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions -- -- Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt InterScan_Disclaimer.txtType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: 7bit Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt InterScan_Disclaimer.txtType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: 7bit
Re: [newbie] Ping Onur!!!
congrats man. s wrote: Hey dude. Guess what?! I got them NVidia drivers loaded!!! I can't believe it. I can play Chromiun and Gltron now. I need to adjust my fonts now. They are all a little smaller, but success on a day that I was becoming so frustrated. I wasn't getting sh*t done. No luck with glibc 2.2, everything I tried to download was asking for a d*mn password, and my default windows manager changed without warning and I couldn't get it back. But yaho. I deleted that windowmanager that kept coming up, and I found a mirror site where I could get that patch utility and (best of all) I Got Them Nvidia Drivers loaded on this i815 mobo The key is this patch for the 2.4.0 kernel for the nvidia driver kernel. I configured agpgart as a module when setting up 2.4.0 and now... Success Thanks for all your help. -s
Re: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC!
I've had good luck with 3com cards (3com9x series), linksys LNE100tx (uses tulip driver) and netgear fa310tx cards. Bryan Cross wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for taking the time to address my question ;) I'm not familiar with SMC... Can you point me to a website or something? Are you aware of any other NICs that have the reputation of working well in Mandrake 7.2? Again, thanks for your time! Bryan - Original Message - From: "Bob Currey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't compile or use drivers for Netgear fa312 NIC! By the way, I noticed Netgear put a new Linux driver package for the FA311 on their site on 1/5/01, but all the files in it are dated from August. I didn't try it, since neither card of mine is in either of my Linux machines, but the FA312 uses the same software as the FA311, I believe. They also refer to the www.skyld.com (I think) site on the page with the FA311 driver, so you might want to check out the FA311 driver updates page. I ended up buying SMC cards to solve my problem, so good luck, BobC --- Bryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I've got 2 NICs in my box, a 3COM507 (3c507.o) and a new Netgear fa312. When I attempt to compile the drivers that came with the card (as well as the latest versions downloaded from the netgear website), I get a HOST (like 200 lines+) of compile errors and, obviously, no .o file. When I just copy the .o file on the disk into /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ and reboot depmod reports "unresolved symbols in fa312.o" and no 2nd NIC Does anyone have any idea what's going on? Believe it or not, I don't have reliable access to NNTP, so if anyone is kind enough to respond, can you be sure to CC me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or this address). Thanks very much! Bryan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM
is it perchance a cdrw? Allton Paul wrote: tried it, first umount'ed and then mount'ed and still got "Input/Output error" -Original Message- From: Jim Warwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM have you tried to mount the cdrom? mnt cdrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allton Paul Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM I am experiencing "have 256Mb, linux only sees 64Mb" syndrome. I've tried adding append="mem=256M" in lilo.conf and restarted, but to no avail. Is there anything else I can do, it's horrible using 64Mb. Also .. despite using the cdrom for installation, when I'm actually in linux I cannot access it. I get Input/Output errors. http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt InterScan_Disclaimer.txtType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: 7bit
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Over here at my house Linux IS, right now, a better alternative to windows or Mac. I'm a full time student and I work part time. I cannot afford to buy programs for windows and I surely cannot afford a Mac that would perform on par with my PC (G4). I do everything with linux. I write papers for school, do my taxes, write letters, email, chat, rip encode MP3's * .ogg's, Create images with the GIMP, play Quake3, UT and other games. Come on man what more do you want? I am not a programmer or even a CIS student. I'm just a guy who like to play games, write email, etc and cannot afford to spend thousands of dollars on software. Honestly I am very tired of hearing these arguments. Mandrakes distribution has done nothing but get better for the past year. Here's what I mean by "better" 1. Massive choices in terms of software available on the disks. I like choices. I like choices a little too much probably. I also like not having to download every single extra thing I want one at a time. 2. Installation process is smoother. More devices are recognized and configured during the install process. 3. Stability stability stability need I say more? 4. Mandrake has become a very good distribution for gaming. That makes me very happy. Now if only Valve would let Loki port Half-Life Counter-Strike! 5. GUI's. I use windowmaker so these "KDE!" "GNOME!" arguments look a little silly to me ;-) Windowmaker is better then both of them put together. Enough baiting though ;-) KDE2 is great. It's fast, smooth, stylish and comfortable. Gnome is very nice too. I have put complete linux newbies down in front of BOTH of theose GUI's and had them doing what they need to do after just a few minutes of explanation. 6. support for new devices. I was lucky enough to be able to buy a brand new computer a few months ago. Mandrake went on it without a hitch. USB mouse, current generation processor, brand new chipset, etc. OK, have you ever been involved in an art project? One that involved more then about 5 people? Infighting is perfectly normal in those circumstances. Linux development is NOT primarily a commercial endevour. It is a bunch of individuals doing what they do for their own reasons. Some of them are motivated by commercial concerns some are not. It is good that there is so much conflict over these opposing viewpoints. It makes the overall area of what linux can do/be broader. This is so much better then a top down corporate approach. Has microsoft ever asked you what you thoguht about their products and encouraged you to write a nice long email and mail it to mr. example man? I think not. Dennis and civilme have done that three or four times in the past six months! Mandrake, keep on keeping on. You listen to your users so much it blows my mind. You host great forums. The overall tone of your community is wonderful. The only mailing list I've ever been on that came close to the friendliness and professionalism of your lists was a debian list. Thank you. ok, I'm done now. Abe Mark Johnson wrote: My impression is that the Linux community in general cannot decide whether linux should be seen as a viable desktop alternative to Windows and MAC, or a viable backend alternative to Solaris, or simply as a hobbyist OS. (To me the former is very debatable, the laters are more realistic.) I think that linux will never be a viable desktop for the masses until productivity software is as common as it is for Windows (but then, i guess, linux programmers would have to contend with the "dumb windows user" mentality). I know that a couple of months ago the Linux Journal had a multi-media issue that showed how linux could be used for generating music and movies, and while interesting, it's not even comparable to the multimedia power of the MAC and BeOS. (I can't open any application without XMMS "coughing" on me) To me it seems that despite all linux advances it is still _just_ an inexpensive internet sever (web, mail, news, etc..), and a hobbyist OS for developers. I think a lot of the reason why is the elitism that Linux folks have and distain for the "dumb windows user." What's needed is a real paradigm shift within the community. Yeah, we have token companies like Gnome and Eazel that genuinely care and are compassionate about the computer food-chain, but this isn't enough. (What's up with this in-fighting between KDE and Gnome?) Then again, maybe the fate of linux is never to become a computer for the common user, but rather a development environment for programmers and web developers. We seem very divided on this issue. One last thing, I'm not complaining really, it just that I think there are different priorities that drive linux compared to the other OSs. Consequently, there are opportunity costs and trade-offs. The thing that really bothers me is the elitism. -Origin
Re: [newbie] Worthless RPM software (EVERYONE PLEASE READ!)
thanks Chris! I appreciate your explanation. Abe Christopher Molnar wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2001 11:11, Mark Weaver wrote: On Sunday 14 January 2001 12:02 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: Then why in the world is there even anything being compiled for Mdk 7.2 in an RPM4 format? to begin with I was mostly just curious about RPM4 packages what-nots, but now I'm absolutely convinced that RPM4 IS from the very pit of hell and one should have nothing at all to do with it. Where are RPMS's being compiled by MandrakeSoft for 7.2 in an RPM 4 format? Seriously, where are you finding these? It was an assumption made on my part based on what I had been reading on this list. If I've made this assumption in error then the egg is clearly on my face. No, I think there is a common mis-understanding here that is worth clearing up. A lot of the packages people mention in any of the lists is from our "cooker" development tree. For those folks who like living on the bleading edge (dangerously) they have access to the development tree and get the updates and are able to test them as they are packaged for the next build. Unfortunatly this time the development tree is incompatable with 7.2. The version of gcc is updated, the kernel is updated, libraries are being moved around and much more. RPM 4 is another reason, any utility that uses RPM must be updated the minute you update to RPM 4, this is something most people do not think of. Does anyone realize that the "menu" package, used to generate and update the menu structure uses rpm? It will fail and you will be left without menus if you update. (I know from experience). Users have a choice here. If they want to go to the rpm 4 they need to do a total update to cooker, it is just to much problem to do anything else. Believe me, I would like to update to RPM 4 on my production machine, but I also like making kde 2.1 CVS builds available for all on 7.2 and 7.1 and if I update these rpm's would no longer work. The only update that will work on 7.2 are those that are found in the Mandrake/Update directory for 7.2 and those that are found in Mandrake-devel/unsupported/i586 on the Mandrake development trees on cooker mirrors. Anyways I hope that helps a little. Ask if your have any questions. -Chris
Re: [newbie] Network solution
no problem Don. Thanks for taking care fo that for us all. Abe Don Munson wrote: Gentlemen: I apologize for the problem since this apparently started with me. This was not an issue of request a read from the list but I have this setting on my machine always on for other issues. As has been mentioned there are settings in the email programs and mine is set to automatically respond so I don't ever see the dialog boxes so wasn't aware they were there until I started getting read receipts. I will endeavor to keep them off the list from now on. Don - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Network solution glad to help. I hate those damn reply requests too. Abe "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Thanks, thats a setting didn't notice before. abe wrote: if you are using netscape mail you can set the preferences to never send a reply. edit=preferences=mailnews groups=return receipts: its in the bottom right box. He can request 'em all he wants and I'll never even know. Abe "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Penndragon wrote: Hi Steven I understand your reason, but it irritates more people than will reply. My experience is that many will simply block ypu to avoid that dialog box every time you post :( I'm not one of those, but I do find it annoying. When posting to a liast, surely your post there is sign enough that it gets though? James I agree. I also find it annoying. FWIW Gene
Re: [newbie] Dual processors ??
and later this year is when I'll be building her that system. She's saving her money already. Abe "Liaw, Andy" wrote: If the install program sees two CPUs, it will install the SMP kernel. For example, the kernel installed on our dual P3 Xeon box is 2.2.15-4mdksmp (from LM7.1). As mentioned before, only multi-thread apps and apps specifically written for SMP will run faster. Who makes mobo for dual Athalons? I thought AMD said they won't have SMP-capable Athalons until later this year. Cheers, Andy -- From: abe[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual processors ?? if you are running an SMP mandrake system will recompiling the software you use help it to use the SMP capabilities of the machine or not? You all have me curious now. My girlfriend wants a dual T-Bird system for her birthday this summer. This will be a strictly mandrake machine. Abe Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 09 January 2001 08:17 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: I'd be real interested in knowing about this too cause I've been toying with the same idea of building a dual processor system. Linux is all I run anymore. I'd be more concerned as to how the kernel would react to such a situation more then some of the apps on that system. I can't imagine how'd they'd really care whether there were 1 or 10 processor. Well, i've never run SMP. From what I understand, a multi processor system has no problems running software written for single proccessor systems, but multi cpu systems won't run 'em any faster/better either. The application has to be specifically written and compiled to take advantage of multi proccessors ... and they're few and far between on most all desktop systems. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
I thought he was full of it too. When I first started using mandrake (5.2 I think?) I got a working linux system in a 500 M partition with enough room in ~/abe to keep me happy. Now, if you just say yes to everything then you are going to get one hell of an install! But my favorite passtime with my linux box for the first few months was to sit down and try all those programs. Fire em up and see what happens. It was great fun and a good way to get comfortable with the new environment too. Give me emacs and vim and joe and pico and so on and so forth over notepad and wordpad anyday. Xmms, grip, freeamp, kmp3, and so on over windows media player. I think you all get the point ;-) That article is just more FUD. Abe Adrian Smith wrote: quote from the artical: The week before Christmas, CNET News.com editor Todd Volz blasted most of the major commercial distributions, including Mandrakesoft, for shipping bloated product. While most of the bloat comes in the area of developer-oriented features, i.e. mulitple compilers, screen setting controls etc., Voltz viewed the business community's reluctance to slim things down for the regular user a distressing sign. quote from adrian: where is my shotgun? mandrake comes on 2 CDs with: 1 OS 10 window managers 100+ programs winsux comes on 1 CD with 1 OS bloat? where's the bloat i think someone missed the bloat. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:54:26 AM 1/10/01 http://www.upside.com/Open_Season/3a5b574d60.html -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Version Declaration and Realplayer8
my experiences with realplayer in linux have been flakey to say the least. Oh, and unless thet've released an update in the past week or so, the linux version is real7 not 8. Could be part of your problem with that site. Abe Traci Collins wrote: Hi! I have downloaded and installed Realplayer8 and run the mime and plugin scripts that came with it. Things are working very well in Netscape 4.7x but I have a problem with the streaming MP3 at www.live365.com. When I tell live365 that I would like to play their music using Realplayer and then click on a link to play something I get a message that says I need to install support for Realplayer 7 or above. Since I have Realplayer8 installed and working properly there is obviously something that live365 is looking for that identifies the installed revision which I don't have. Does anyone know what identifies Realplayer version levels for sites that need to know that? If it is more than a mime type declaration or a text file could you also let me know how to modify or create it? I suspect that it is just missing on my system. -- Traci Collins http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
sure and with no development tools you will never be able to recompile the kernel or an app that you use all the time. Most new programs that you download won't install because they need libraries to work. Development tools are required to have a whole linux operating system. Tke away the development tools and linux may as well BE wandows or crapintosh. For the record here I am not a programmer. The only "language" I know is english, html and potty mouth ;-) I'm just a computer user who like to have as much control over my system as I can and I am willing to learn what it takes to do that. Huh, pretty much sums up my overall epistemology about life now that I think about it. Abe john rigby wrote: Ha folks, The real problem with the slow uptake of the fantastic Linux System is that it *is* trying to be all things to all people. There is a VAST difference between the BASIC USER and the TRADITIONAL *ux HACKER. The 99.99% of people out in the Cyberbog that Linux NEEDS to reach/convert to save us all from Bill, do not need now, in the future, ever, ANY Development Tools. The ideal install situation is maybe a 2 disk set: Disk A: SIMPLE up-and-go basic Linux with USEABLE *OFFICE* APPLICATIONS vis: StarOffice, KDOffice, Browser, IE Lookalike Mail program and that is it. NO, repeat NO, Developer stuff needed. Disk B: All the Developer stuff - and certainly no GUI needed. Hackers like to get dirty and "change their own oil". :-) Cheers, John-The-Perpetually-Frustrated-User-ONLY- (Since Fortran and CP/M) - Original Message - From: "Adrian Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux quote from the artical: The week before Christmas, CNET News.com editor Todd Volz blasted most of the major commercial distributions, including Mandrakesoft, for shipping bloated product. While most of the bloat comes in the area of developer-oriented features, i.e. mulitple compilers, screen setting controls etc., Voltz viewed the business community's reluctance to slim things down for the regular user a distressing sign.
Re: [newbie] LM7.2 Win2000
I found that mandrake 7.2 and win2k played pretty well together. If you are going to use LILO or Grub as the boot loader be prepared to add a boot win2k line manually after mandrake is installed and running. Abe AL wrote: Hi! A friend's computer currently has Windows 2000 installed in his primary master 20GB hard drive. His 8.4GB primary slave hard drive is currently free and wishes to install Mandrake 7.2 in it. Will this setup be hassle free in the sense that: 1. No re-partitioning on the 20GB drive be made, if possible. 2. Win2000 is the default OS to boot until he gets the hang of Mandrake. Any feedback, suggestions from the gurus welcomed and appreciated (before I start thrashing his partitions) Thanks!
[newbie] quake2 as non-root?
anybody know how to setup quake2 so you can play it as a normal user? I'm really iffy about running a game as root but it refuses to start up for any other user. Abe
Re: [newbie] Network solution
glad to help. I hate those damn reply requests too. Abe "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Thanks, thats a setting didn't notice before. abe wrote: if you are using netscape mail you can set the preferences to never send a reply. edit=preferences=mailnews groups=return receipts: its in the bottom right box. He can request 'em all he wants and I'll never even know. Abe "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Penndragon wrote: Hi Steven I understand your reason, but it irritates more people than will reply. My experience is that many will simply block ypu to avoid that dialog box every time you post :( I'm not one of those, but I do find it annoying. When posting to a liast, surely your post there is sign enough that it gets though? James I agree. I also find it annoying. FWIW Gene
Re: [newbie] Lost Mouse Wheel
you could also just read the XF86Config-4 file in your /etc/X11 directory. The pointer section should look something like this: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse" Option "Zaxismapping" "4 5" #Option "Emulate3Buttons" #Option "Emulate3Timeout""50" I use a usb mouse so my "device" section refers to a usbmouse, if yours is a ps/2 mouse, the device section should refer to either /dev/mouse or /dev/psaux. Basically just leave it as whatever it is. For mouse wheel to work the "Protocol" must be "IMPS/2" and you there must be a line Option "Zaxismapping" "4 5" just log in as su and start up a konqueror session, navigate to that directory and make the appropriate changes. To open the file in editable format you must right click on it and choose a text editor you are comfortable with. Once you are done, save, close the editor, vlose konqueror, exit your existing session and restart X. If you use the graphical login thingy it is an option in the shutdown list. Otherwise merely logging out and back in will take care of it. No need to reboot for something like this. Good luck! Abe Meph Istopheles wrote: Carson, I changed my screen resolution from 1280*1024 to 1024*768 and now my mouse wheel no longer works. Nothing else has changed. Can anyone explain to me how to make it work again? thanks!! Did you check to be sure you're using your mouse? I've noticed on a couple of occasions that lm7.2 will switch me to a generic mouse. I switch it back to the Logitec Mouseman First Mouse, it works again. If it's set correctly, you might switch to a generic, reboot switch back. Should work. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] serious rpm problem
is it just me or are you not logged in as root or su in the snip below? That is probably your problem. Not your rpm database. You must be either su or root to do anything with rpms. Abe Fred Schroeder wrote: have you tried: rpm --rebuilddb I think that will do it, I am sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong. ;-) HTH Fred - Original Message - From: "cyberclay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: [newbie] serious rpm problem Hey, I'm having a pretty serious rpm problem. Something has apparently happened to my /var/lib/rpm/packages.rpm file: [cclay@www ~cclay]# rpm -q bash cannot open file //var/lib/rpm/nameindex.rpm: Invalid argument rpmQuery: rpmdbOpen() failed How can I re-create this? Should I just re-install rpm? Which version is appropriate for Mandrake 7.0, and where can I find it as a tar.gz file (because I obviously can't use an rpm). Regards, cyberclay --- cclay at fastlane dot net I think, therefore I am dangerous http://www.hsien.net
Re: [newbie] Dual processors ??
if you are running an SMP mandrake system will recompiling the software you use help it to use the SMP capabilities of the machine or not? You all have me curious now. My girlfriend wants a dual T-Bird system for her birthday this summer. This will be a strictly mandrake machine. Abe Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 09 January 2001 08:17 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: I'd be real interested in knowing about this too cause I've been toying with the same idea of building a dual processor system. Linux is all I run anymore. I'd be more concerned as to how the kernel would react to such a situation more then some of the apps on that system. I can't imagine how'd they'd really care whether there were 1 or 10 processor. Well, i've never run SMP. From what I understand, a multi processor system has no problems running software written for single proccessor systems, but multi cpu systems won't run 'em any faster/better either. The application has to be specifically written and compiled to take advantage of multi proccessors ... and they're few and far between on most all desktop systems. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] XFree 4.0.1 to 4.0.2
hey, in the directory /etc/X11 there is a link called X. What does it point to? It should be /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 for X 4.02 Give that a look it may be your problem. Abe Adrian Smith wrote: hi Tom whomever else is following this ok, this is what i tried this time around. rpm --rebuilddb rpm -Uvh --allfiles * still the same thing (X 4.0.1 not .2) so, i did this: rpm --rebuilddb rpm Uvvh --allfiles *.rpm xlog rpm --rebuilddb shutdown -r now after doing all this: XFree86 -version reports the following: XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 1 July 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.17-21mdksmp i686 [ELF] Module Loader present so then i ran rpm -qa | grep XFree it reports the following: XFree86-libs-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-xfs-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-devel-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-ISO8859-2-75dpi-fonts-1.0-14mdk XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-Xnest-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-static-libs-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk XFree86-server-common-3.3.6-18mdk XFree86-SVGA-3.3.6-18mdk these are the files i have (is it something stupid like i'm missing a file?): Glide_V3-DRI-cvs-1mdk.i586.rpm (this one came up as a failed dependancy when i did rpm --test, so i added it to the directory) XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-Xnest-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-Xvfb-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-devel-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-doc-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-glide-module-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-libs-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-server-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-static-libs-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm XFree86-xfs-4.0.2-1mdk.i686.rpm freetype2-2.0.2-0.20001211.1mdk.i586.rpm freetype2-devel-2.0.2-0.20001211.1mdk.i586.rpm looking over the output of my rpm -vv, most of it seems ok to me, but i have the whole file if anyone can look at it tell anything. i didn't want to send it to the list as it is 160K however is this bad? i see the word NO, as opposed to most of the time it says YES. these are out takes from the output of "rpm -Uvvh -allfiles *.rpm". D: requires: /sbin/ldconfig satisfied by db file lists. D: NO A rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 B rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 D: NO A rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 B rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 D: NO A rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 B rpmlib(PayloadIsBzip2) = 3.0.5-1 snip D: NO A rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1B rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 D: YESA rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1B rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 D: requires: mlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 YES (rpmlib provides) D: YESA freetype2 = 2.0.2-0.20001211.1mdk B freetype2 = 2.0.2 D: requires: freetype2 = 2.0.2 satisfied by added package. D: NO A rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 B rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1 D: NO A rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 B rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 D: NO A rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1 B rpmlib(PayloadIsBzip2) = 3.0.5-1 --- thanks much Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Recruitment Notice
hey, I've got one of those CDRW's and it works just fine in 7.2, 7.1 and 7.0. What problems are you having? What have you tried? Abe Roger Sherman wrote: Hey civilme, any idea if IDE CD-RWs like mine (LG CD-RW CED-8042B) will work in 8.0? peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #19071 On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, civileme wrote: On Friday 05 January 2001 22:51, you wrote: Unusual is what we want--It does no good to make a distro that runs on only "usual" machines. I will send you some software to analyse your system--I think I probably know what doesn't work CDRW, LS120 Civileme Well I would say I have an unusual machine. Its a compaq 433 LS-120 / Floppy that came stock Cd-rom stock Both of the above are on the Secondary IDE device. after market Hewlett Packard CD-RW after market US Robotics/3Com modem Parallel Port Zip Drive Plus Agfa Snap Scan USB Scanner that Mandrake 7.2 recognizes but no software does. I still haven't gotten everything to run on this though, can't imagine trying out beta...lol.
[newbie] DVD and mandrake 7.2
Anyone know if/how to get a DVD player working in mandrake 7.2? I would really like to watch my DVDs in linux. 7.2 come with a program called nist but I can't seem to get it to work. It tells me that it can't read the first sector of the .vob file and then dies leaving a core file. Is there another program that someone has had good luck with? Abe
Re: [newbie] CDROM again
this isn't a cdrw is it? Just checking mind you. Abe Paul wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,dev=/dev/hdb 0 0 I know something doesn't look right on the /mnt/cdrom line, something missing Hi Dennis, Try this: /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 Paul -- ##signature line##do not cross##signature line##do not cross## http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
ok, millennium edition is the last microsoft OS built on the win9x kernel (mixed 16 and 32bit kernel). Win NT, 2000 and whistler are all true 32bit OS and are based on a different kernel. Microsoft wants to get everyone using 32bit OS's and that is why millennium edition's gui looks almost exactly like win2k's. Whistler is the follow up to win2k. There will be a number of different versions of it, home, professional, server, data center. Basically it'll get microsoft into a point where they only have to support one OS with different flavors rather then the hell they have now. Also, winNT/win2k's memory management is a *little bit* better then win9x so they are a bit more stable or should I say that they are less crash prone? In theory anyway, why is it that no microsoft OS is stable for more then a month or two? My experience is that win2k is like a giant 1950's american car. Its a boat, slow to start, breaks often, and requires a ton of maintanence. Abe Romanator wrote: There's an update to Millennium coming out later this year. I think it's name is Whistler. goldenpi wrote: Give it time. I have just seen windows millenium and I can assure you it will not last. It is awful. It is slow. It takes up half my hard drive and then its optional parts take the rest. And it doesn't work. Windows 2k however is here to stay. I haven't seen it running but I have heard of it. On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, you wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell -- == Goldenpi - linux user, unreal editor, programer in 3 languages and all round geek. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]
I did the same thing. I started with KDE because I could understand it with my leaving-windows-mentality. Eventually I started playing around with the different window managers looking for something that was faster, used less resources, was more customizable and pleased my aesthetic sense more directly. Blackbox just didn't groove wiht me but the nexty look and feel of windowmaker totally made me happy. Abe Roger Sherman wrote: I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However, after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64 meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y." peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #19071 On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point on procs. Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900. Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors architecture. windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2 seconds ;-) === Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!! Give it a try if you're willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of simplicity. Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem. Mike "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me." --Winston Churchill Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]
yes I am. With the 2.2.17 kernel the option is PPro (pentium pro) but I noticed with the 2.4 kernel that there is one more level of optimization called K7. I juist haven't been able to build a 2.4 kernel that works yet ;-( Abe Mark Weaver wrote: I think he's refering to recompiling the kernel for his family of processor. On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:32, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point on procs. Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900. Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors architecture. SNIP How do you recompile for an Athlon? Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real- world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds. ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
my ide burner works just fine in linux. Better then it does in windows infact. I have one of those mice too. Works great in linux or 'doze. The only change I want to make in its functioning is in windows. I want my middle mouse button to open link in new window like in netscape in linux. No go. So much for "anything I want it too" ;-) Abe Anthony Daniell wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
http://mandrakeuser.org/hardware/hremov3.html it's about 2/3 of the way down the page. Be root when you do it! Abe Anthony Daniell wrote: Hi, can you please tell me how you got your ide burner to work under linux??? Thanks Anthony Daniell - Original Message - From: "abe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux my ide burner works just fine in linux. Better then it does in windows infact. I have one of those mice too. Works great in linux or 'doze. The only change I want to make in its functioning is in windows. I want my middle mouse button to open link in new window like in netscape in linux. No go. So much for "anything I want it too" ;-) Abe Anthony Daniell wrote: - Original Message - From: David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am locked into bad mouse support by 2-button mouse users. Linux mouse support is hardly configurable at all. I have seen the sawfish mouse dialog. Ridiculous. Very true indeed. Kde should build a special mouse driver for mice that have a scrol wheel and side buttons. Mine has four buttons and a scroll wheel. And the people who make the mice should write software for linux also. After all there are a lot of people using linux today. I feel that if every one using linux sent email to the logitech company asking for drivers/software for there products then they might do something about it. i just bought a new printer, a lexmark Z32 because they have drivers for linux. And the Z52 has drivers for linux also. My mouse is a ms intelli mouse explorer and whith the software for windoze I can get the buttons to do what ever I want them to do, and I can change the icons as well. But I bought it because it does not have a ball in it and can use it as either ps2 or usb. I also feel that linux should have surport for IDE CD Burners, not just SCSI. Regards Anthony Daniell
Re: [newbie] cdrecord doesn't work.
I ran it and it still gives the error line cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. Any other ideas? Abe Graham Kerr wrote: try cdrecord with dev=0,0 Graham On Monday 18 December 2000 7:11 am, you wrote: when I run cdrecord -scanbus it returns this: Cdrecord 1.9 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 2.1.39 Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. 0,0,0 0) 'LG ' 'CD-RW CED-8042B ' '1.02' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * Any body have any idea how to fix this? Thanks! Abe -- Oh My God...Its Full of Penguins Reg Linux User 153258 Icq No 28205556
[newbie] cdrecord doesn't work.
when I run cdrecord -scanbus it returns this: Cdrecord 1.9 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 2.1.39 Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page. 0,0,0 0) 'LG ' 'CD-RW CED-8042B ' '1.02' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * Any body have any idea how to fix this? Thanks! Abe
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
sure, why not. I have a voodoo5. I use the drivers from http://linux.3dfx.com. They have a very nice step by step on that website with the files that you need right there. Here are my major steps. 1. download files: in my case those are: tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm Glide_V5-3.10-2.i386.rpm 2. remove all rpms related to Glide or 3dfx 3. exit X (I boot to init3 so I just log out of windowmaker and I am at a command prompt.) and log in as root. 4. cd /etc/X11 and change name of existing XF86Config-4 file to XF86Config-4.old 5. rpm -Uvh Glide_V5-3.10-2.i386.rpm 6. rpm -Uvh tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm 7. rpm --rebuild tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm Sometimes I have to --force and/or --nodeps one of the three packages. 8. cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686 rpm -Uvh tdfx_drm-1.0-3.i686.rpm 9. cd /etc/X11 and change all settings in XF86Config.dri.ex to reflect the entries in XF86Config-4.old (specifically monitor refresh rates, mouse settings and font paths) then cp XF86Config.dri.ex XF86Config-4 10. startx (at which point everything works theoretically) Doing this breaks some of the neat things that mandrake does and some of the applications that are installed. Fine with me as long as I can play Quake3! Hope this helps Paul. Feel free to ask more questions if there was something you were interested in that I missed. Abe Paul R wrote: If it's not a whole how-to (i.e. just a few lines), may I ask what steps you took. I was asking purely for my own (the list's) edification, so if it's too much trouble, it's ok. -Paul R abe wrote: Unfortunately you do not automagically get hardware acceleration w x 4.0.1 and mandrake 7.2. I had to use the same procedures to make it work that I used with 7.0 and 7.1. I've got an A7V (Via KT13) and linux works great on it. Abe "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
Well, the neato clock at the graphical login screen goes haywire. Some of the KDE games don't work right or at all. Uh, there are a few others but I can't remember them right now. Nothing pivotal really. Atleast as far as my usage goes. I don't know what applications you use regularly though. Since I can't remember which ones Don't work, I'll list some that DO work ;-) netscape 4.76 and 6 Opera 4.2b XMMS Konqueror emacs Xemacs The Gimp Staroffice RealPlayer Yahoo messenger LICQ GKrellm Koffice GQview Xaos quake3 UT Civilisation: call to power various image viewers, movie players, networking tools etc I use windowmaker which works great Linuxconf Drakconf pico yea Abe "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: abe wrote: snip Doing this breaks some of the neat things that mandrake does and some of the applications that are installed. Fine with me as long as I can play Quake3! Hope this helps Paul. Feel free to ask more questions if there was something you were interested in that I missed. Abe Hmm. Okay, what "neat things" and "applications" are you talking about? Thanks! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux
I've been reading this thread for about a week now and I finially have to give in to my baser urges and add my two cents. Linux is a great OS. I have learned more about my computer from using linux then I ever did from using windows. However, windows was a great gateway into the world of computers for me. I would not be here typing away in netscape on my windowmaker desktop, customized kernel and X server if not for windows. I still use windows too. I dual boot with win2k because I like having both Os's to choose from. I think that the Gimp and Photoshop are incredible in concert. I love playing quake3 in linux and counter strike in windows. They both are very good at some things and not so good at others. Personally I like that mandrake has made such excellent install tools for their distribution. They have done a very good job of taking the pain and confusion out of the install while still offering you the power that is so fundamental to linux, if you want it. I do not care if linux ever overtakes windows. I do not care about the perceived competition between windows and linux except in that it spur both groups of developers to make their respective OS stronger, more robust, more intuitive and offer more useful features. This is like people arguing over coke or pepsi, adidas or nike. Who cares as long as I can get what I want from one or the other? Oh and what I want from an interface is customizability. Make it so I can make it look and feel the way I am comfortable with. Abe Mark Johnson wrote: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 22:12:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] gates gets Linux I am of the feeling that if Linux, no matter what flavor, were to become "more" new user friendly, or to put it a better way, extreme novice user friendly, then it would no longer "be" linux. It would be Microsoft...or very much like it and not much at all like Linux. This is very disturbing, but I think this sentiment is widely held w/in the linux/unix community. Am I interpreting this correctly? You are saying that an easy to use interface expemlifies or is evidence of a crappy OS? That any respectable system cannot also have an intuitive and ergonomically superior interface? I don't say that to portray an attitude of an elitest. Quite the contrary as a matter of fact. I've watched over the years as windows has evolved and changed and become more novice friendly, and when I use that term I'm refering to folks that barely know what a mouse is let alone what it can do. Anyway, I've watched as the Windows platform has changed over the years and has grown more and more accomodating to anyone and everyone in general and to some degree that "is" necessary, but in so doing I really believe that they've sacrficed much of Windows strengths and stability for ease of use for both user and third party vendor. Again, am I understanding you? You are saying that in order to increase usability one must sacrifice stability. That doesn't make sense at all. I just don't buy this. Windows 2000 is more stable than any of it's other descendants. I use Linux, Solaris, and 2000 in parallel all day long. I really believe MS has done a pretty good job at maintaining stability and increasing usability. It's is almost a year now and 2000 has never crashed one me once. Personally, I would never go back to NT4.0 after using 2000. The sad thing is I sound like a MS supporter...
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
Unfortunately you do not automagically get hardware acceleration w x 4.0.1 and mandrake 7.2. I had to use the same procedures to make it work that I used with 7.0 and 7.1. I've got an A7V (Via KT13) and linux works great on it. Abe "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes)
I've had great luck with 3com905tx and netegar fa310tx. They use 3c9X.0 and tulip.o respectively. Both worked fine with cable, uselessworst DSL and speakeasy DSL. Bob Currey wrote: By hardware adapter, he means ethernet card. Be very careful which you pick. I have many "supported" ones that didn't work with my cable modem setup on 7.1 and 7.2. I'd suggest an NE2000 PCI clone or 3Com 3C905tx after all I've been through. Intel boards (2) are hopeless, Netgear (2) are hopeless, SMC (1) are hopeless. I ended up buying 4 boards for $5 each after going thru the name brand stuff to no avail. Same boards in same machine worked under Windoze, tried to use same settings under Linux. Don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to help you not go buy the same mistakes I have a shelf of. BobC - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) Hardware Adapter??? Mark jack dugas wrote: get the hardware adapter that is supported by linux and you will have no problem. then reinstall the OS and there you will have it . On the internet - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Roger Sherman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] This bites (further cable woes) Roger, when you setup eth0 in linuxconf did you check for manual config of your IP, or is it set to dhcp? the default setting is manual. This needs to be set to dhcp. if you're not sure open drakeconf --Network configuration --Basic Host information --Adaptor 1 (tab). 1) make sure "Enable" is ckecked 2) if it is not check Dhcp 3) make sure the correct "primary name + domain" field is filled correctly 4) alias is optional 5) fill in your ip address 6) choose the correct netmask - most likely 255.255.255.0 7) choose the correct type of "Net device" (eth0) 8) click the "accept" button From here close the Network configuration interface and reboot your machine to set everything in motion. O yeah...one more thing. let us know how you make out. -- Mark ...Wisdom begins when the mouth is closed and the palms are turned upward. On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 Roger Sherman had this to say! So, when I installed 7.2 a few days ago, I was thrilled to see it configured my cable modem for me. Yesterday, I decided it was time to install a firewall, which I attempted. It went poorly, so I decided to put it on the shelf til I could talk to someone who knew a bit about it. My roommate wanted to use the PC, and go into WIndows, which he did. Later I booted back into Linux, and saw as it was initializing everything, that eth0 failed to initialize. The reason given was Initializing eth0 - Determining IP information via dhcpcd - failed I figured it was because of my botched firewall attempt, so I uninstalled it, and still nothing. So, since Id just installed everything, and nothing was really tweaked to my liking, I just reinstalled the whole thing. Problem solved, and I was back online. Until I rebooted again - this time with no firewall to muck things up. Same result though, same message. Can anyone tell me how to get back online? I typed in ifconfig, and it didnt tell me anything except that I was offline, I tried to reconfigure my cable setup through DrakeConf - Network and Internet Configuration; it told me it was starting eth0 again, then a minute later it said it was already configured. In a terminal, as su, I typed dhcpcd, but it didnt do anything. Thats it for me, Im a newbie, I have no tricks up my sleeve. So is it possible to dual boot and still be able to initialize eth0 upon booting? Id really hate to think I might have to reinstall Linux a couple times a week if I want to be online, but at the same time, I want nothing to do with Windows anymore, and am considering making this PC strictly a Linux box. Problem being, if I get knocked offline like that, then I have to reinstall Windows to get help. Help!!! peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= **
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and Voodoo5 and quake3
civileme wrote: On Tuesday 14 November 2000 21:54, you wrote: So, 7.2 betas 1 through 3 autodetected my Voodoo5 and configured it for 3d acceleration without any intervention on my part. I just installed 7.2 full and while it did detect my V5 I cannot get hard ware acceleration to work. The Xlog file says this: (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1 (II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee, 3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found (--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo5 found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: and this about it: (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 22.24 MB [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) . (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xd800,0x400) (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 22.24 MB [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (**) TDFX(0): DPMS enabled (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled whats up? It look sto my highly untrained eyes that the X startup process can only find half of the video card but I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I tried recompiling the tdfx module from the linux.3dfx.com web site and when I installed it I got messages that it conflicts with a kernel module. Other then this 7.2 is great. It feels more fluid, faster, more stable. Keep up the great work mandrake folks! Abe OK Please send me cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Civileme -- QA/Software Testing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you! Here it is: # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom # This allows the server to start up even if the # mouse device can't be opened/initialised. AllowMouseOpenFail EndSection # ** # Input devices # ** # ** # Keyboard section # ** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection # ** # Pointer section # ** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse" Option "ZaxisMapping" "4 5" #Option "Emulate3Buttons" #Option "Emulate3Timeout""50" # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option "ChordMiddle" EndSection Section "Module" # This loads the DBE extension module. Load"dbe" Load"glx" Load"dri" # This loads the m
Re: [newbie] LM7.2/Macmillain -- KDE2-Final?
To those of us who don't use KDE it is just another package that comes with our distribution. Get over it. Mandrake can't ba all things to all people all the time. 1.94 or whatever is included with 7.2 works fine anyway. Its fast, solid and nice to look at. If having the full 2.0 version is so important to you go download it. This is the linux world after all. EVERYTHING IS A BETA PRODUCT IN LINUX. Its just that some packages work better then others ;-) Abe Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Charles, Paul and friends: Thanks so much for the info. I love Mandrake, but this decision NOT to include KDE 2.0 Final when a) it is available by FTP download and b) Mandrake knew in advance precisely when KDE 2.0 Final would be made availalbe has to be one of the dumbest marketing decisions I have ever heard of. It reminds me of Intel's famous chip fiasco some years back. Chairman Grove tried initially to explain away the defective, inaccurate chip by saying that most people don't care for accuracy anyway. According to Grove, this dumb mistake and even dumber attempt at fooling the public cost Intel eventually $500 million and it took them years to regain their credibility. What it means, practically speaking, for Mandrake is that for the next 4 or 5 months Mandrake will be getting irate, angry complaints from hundreds if not thousands of disappointed people who have spent $30 or $70 plus shipping on a beta product (in view of the fact that the central feature of 7.2 is KDE 2). This is a very strange development. I have been buying the official de luxe versions of Mandrake for the past year in order to show my support and in order to have the official version. This time, when rumors started circulating that Mandrake's official, commercial version would be a beta, I took insurance by also ordering CheapBytes' version because they use the FTP download. I intend to send Mandrake's new "experiment" in public relations forthwith back to them with a demand for a full refund. Thank God I did not order the $70 deluxe version. One thing that puzzles me, though, is that Macmillain does not yet have LM 7.2 listed on their site. May I ask if those of you who reported this sad news are speaking from first-hand experience or are you quoting a press release. In other words, do you actually own a copy of Macmillain's 7.2 Complete? If I have misunderstood anything here, if LM 7.2 really does have KDE 2.0 Final, then my apologies to Mandrake. If LM 7.2 is not yet available, then I do hope somebody from Mandrake clarifies this critical matter to us. Macmillain clearly says on mandrake's Products page: KDE 2.0 Final. That is the basis on which I ordered it online. If this is not the case, please explain yourself. If it is NOT 2.0 Final but Almost Final, then Mandrake should state "Almost Final." The difference between an "Almost KDE 2.0 Final" and "KDE 2.0 Final" may see like nothing more than a downloadable patch, but, I submit that it is unprofessional and unethical to do so without letting the customer know in advance. In sum, I very much hope that I am wrong. Will someone from Mandrake/ Macmillain please step forth and tell us exactly what's going on. Thank you. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher RUS: http://www.websher.net SHK: http://www.shakespeareindex.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] domain name setup
services means you don't have a web server or FTP or telnet or what ever it is that you want to use your domain for running at the moment. KompuKit wrote: I have a static IPit's: 216.126.164.238 if you mean my ISP, they are: naisp.net if you mean the registrars: domainregistry.com Bill Shirley wrote: It is not set up correctly. [root@elmo msg]# nslookup kompukit.com Server: elmo.lan.shirleyfamily.net Address: 192.168.4.1 *** elmo.lan.shirleyfamily.net can't find kompukit.com: Non-existent host/domain [root@elmo msg]# nslookup www.kompukit.com Server: elmo.lan.shirleyfamily.net Address: 192.168.4.1 *** elmo.lan.shirleyfamily.net can't find www.kompukit.com: Non-existent host/domain How will anyone find you? Do you have a static IP address? Who is you DNS provider? Tell them to get you set up correcly. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KompuKit Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:57 PM To: Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] domain name setup I just did a whois lookup on both: internic and register.com for my new domain name I registered...it finally comes up with all the info...so I assume my name (www.kompukit.com) is now activated...correct? however, I've never done setup before on my machine... can someone walk me thru this...please? -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] Netscape 6 Install for 7.2
hey all, you can avoid creating a login name when you first fire up netscape6 by clicking on the link that says something to the effect "I am 13 years of age or younger." Or you can make a silly one like mine. BiggethDicketh Love that python. civileme wrote: OK You go to Netscape's site and navigate the ads to get to downloading netscape 6 for linux 2.2.--do this with Konqueror, NOT Netscape 4.73 or you will find yourself in tail-chasing mode about enabling cookies you have already enabled. And you download it. Now look in your home directory and you will find a long name ending in .tar.gz. Right click on it and open it with the Archiver. Under "Actions" in the Archiver, select "Extract" let it extract to your home directory. Now bring up a terminal and do su - to get into root mode. # cd /home/yourusername/netscape-install # ./netscape-install Select the recommended install because the Full will hang on personal security manager. Apparently this file is troubled at the source. To get Java start up from a fresh terminal with the command $ /usr/local/netscape/netscape Render unto Caesar by selecting a login and putting your email address on AOL's customer list, then start Netscape The left 30% of the screen can be shoved out of the way by clicking on the slider bar. Now go to a site that features Java applets, and follow the instructions to download the plug-in for linux. It will self-install. QUIT NETSCAPE and start again from a terminal. You should now have a Java-enabled netscape. My early tests show the performance unimpressive. It fails to open sites that Netscape 4.73 handles nicely. It also pops up a password manager which I believe should be disabled at earliest opportunity. The sidebar is full of ads and is a terrible shopper--I found much better terms elsewhere. Civileme
[newbie] 7.2 and Voodoo5 and quake3
So, 7.2 betas 1 through 3 autodetected my Voodoo5 and configured it for 3d acceleration without any intervention on my part. I just installed 7.2 full and while it did detect my V5 I cannot get hard ware acceleration to work. The Xlog file says this: (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1 (II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee, 3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found (--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo5 found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: and this about it: (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 22.24 MB [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xd800,0x400) (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 22.24 MB [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (**) TDFX(0): DPMS enabled (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled whats up? It look sto my highly untrained eyes that the X startup process can only find half of the video card but I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I tried recompiling the tdfx module from the linux.3dfx.com web site and when I installed it I got messages that it conflicts with a kernel module. Other then this 7.2 is great. It feels more fluid, faster, more stable. Keep up the great work mandrake folks! Abe
Re: [newbie] I cant configure my 3dfx card
get version 7.2 of mandrake which will automatically detect and configure your V5. Mandrake 7.0 will not detect the V5 because it uses x 3.3.6 and you need x 4.01. Abe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arguably in your case Red Hat appears to be "better"... [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 13/11/2000 15:42:04 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: [newbie] I cant configure my 3dfx card I have a voodoo 5 5500, pentium II 266, 128mb ram, with mandrake 7.0. When I installed Red Hat 7.0 it automatically detected my voodoo 5 5500 but a friend told me that mandrake 7.0 was better then I installed mandrake 7.0 but it didn't detect my 3dfx card. What should I do? -- Disclaimer notice: This message and any attachments are confidential and should only be read by those to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact us, delete the message from your computer and destroy any copies. Any distribution or copying without our prior permission is prohibited. Internet communications are not always secure and therefore the Powergen Group does not accept legal responsibility for this message. The recipient is responsible for verifying its authenticity before acting on the contents. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Powergen Group. Powergen plc. 53 New Broad Street, London EC2M 1SL Telephone +44 (0) 2476 42 4000 Fax +44 (0) 2476 42 5432
[newbie] how do I get 7.2 to mount a win2k partition?
It can be done yes? There is no entry in my fstab file for hda or windows. ANyone know what the entry should look like?
Re: [newbie] need hard disk buying advice
Abraham, you should be fine. It was mostly 386/486 and first generation pentium systems whos BIOS couldn't read hard drives larger then 504MB or 1 gig. Here's how you find out for sure: Go to your setup BIOS and look at the options for your hard drives. You should have CHS, Normal and LBA. As long as LBA is an option you are home free. I just put a 20gig HD in a pII233 system on an older asus board last night at work. The BIOS saw it fine but since the customer was using win95 first edition..I had to partition the drive into a bunch of 2 gig virtual drives so the OS could use it. Abram Abraham E Mandac Jr wrote: I was about ready to buy a 15 GB hard disk but then I read somewhere that I should first make sure that my BIOS can handle a disk of that capacity. My question is: could somebody give me a rough ceiling on hard drive capacity that can be handled by this sytem: Pentium II 300 MHz on an ASUS P2E-M motherboard, with 64 MB RAM I've exhausted the motherboard's manual and the ASUS website [which says next to nothing about any of their downloadable BIOSes], and I'm about to go nuts from reading as much as I can on hard drives and BIOSes, but I'm still unable to nail the specifics on my system [do I even have to, in the first place?]. I've run across a lot of conflicting opinions about whether my system could handle anything larger than 8 gig. None of the people I've talked to face-to-face seem to know for sure, though. I apologize if this isn't exactly Linux-related. But I need a new hard drive soon on which to install LM so I can get started :-) Thanks. Abe Mandac -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] OT 6th question - SCSI vs IDE OT
it depends on which kind of SCSI and which kind of IDE. An ATA-100 IDE drive is really fast. Probably quite a bit faster then a narrow SCSI 1 device. Especially if you have a fast CPU. If you have a slower CPU then the SCSI device might be as fast or faster. SCSI works on its own bus that is independent of the CPU while IDE requires that the CPU handle its transactions. This is the primary reason for the speed difference. In many cases the only physical difference between a given IDE and SCSI drive from the same manufacturer is the presence of a SCSI BIOS on one of the otherwise identical drives. ATA-100 devices are very fast. A few days ago at work I was ghosting a hard drive from another hard drive. Both were ATA-100 drives on the asus A7V's promise 100 controller. It was a 900 or so meg transfer and it was completed in under 4 seconds. Fast enough? SCSI is more extensible then IDE though. The only device on a SCSI chain that gets an IRQ is the controller card. Hope that gives you some food for thought! I hate it when I ask a question about hardware and I get "this is better" "no, This is better" with no reasons why ;-) Abe gcobb wrote: SCSI is definitely faster. It's also more costly, but has many benefits. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adrian Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] OT 6th question - SCSI vs IDE OT this came up the other day. someone told me that a SCSI hard drive is faster than an IDE hard drive. i have never used a SCSI drive in my life, so i don't know from experience. is this true?? thanks much no more questions for now Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] Promise ATA-100
pretty sure it doesn't. 7.2b3 wouldn't install on my A7V with my primary drive on the ATA-100 controller. Perhaps 2.4 kernel will support ATA-100? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of installing Mandrake 7.2, but wanted to know if anyone knows if it supports ATA-100?? Can anyone help. Roland Serman -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] Promise ATA-100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think at this time LM 7.2 supports ATA66. Maybe 7.3 or 8.0 will support ATA100, I do think that kernel 2.4.x does support it though. perhapse, although I'm using 2.4.0 kernel that comes with mandrake 7.2b3 and I can't use the promise 100 controller. Its too bad too because my ata66 drive is almost twice as fast on that ata100 controller!
Re: [newbie] Ethernet and DSL
hey, 7.1 will change your subnet mask to 255.255.0.0 if you configure your ethernet card during install. It might be that simple. It was for me a few times ;-) Bombardier Systems Consulting wrote: Brian, I recently installed 7.1 and had problems that folks here helped me with. This is how I set it up to finally work: This is what I did in NETCONF. Basic Host Information Host name + domain = linux.myNTserverdomain name Adaptor1 = enabled DHCP, net device = eth0, kernel module = 3c574-TX, Irq=10, all other fields blank Name server specifications (DNS) DNS is required for normal operation (selected) default domain = 10.0.0.1 IP of name server 1 = same DNS address that I use in my other boxes IP of name server 2 = same DNS address that I use in my other boxes IP of name server 3 = same DNS address that I use in my other boxes all other fields blank Routing and gateways Set defaults = enable routing(selected) and Default gateway = 10.0.0.1 I have not done anything with the other NETCONF options You were not clear in your email what kind of DSL modem you have and if you have fixed IP addresses of your modem/router supports DHCP using NAT. The above instructions are assuming the later. Hope this helps Jim - Original Message - From: "Brian Jacob Rogers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 7:38 AM Subject: [newbie] Ethernet and DSL Hi all, I am a real newbie to trying to set this up. I have a 3com ethernet card which is connected to my dsl modem. I have a 2 station network with the other one running win98se. I can't seem to configure my sound (creative sound blaster audioPCI 128D) or my nic (3com Etherlink 10/100). Can anyone offer any advice? Thank you. Brian -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] Fujitsu Drives and Linux 7.1b
I've got it installed on an 8.4 gig fujitsu drive. Actually, that drive has had 7.0 through 7.2 beta 1 installed on it. Romanator wrote: Hi everybody, Has any one been successful in installing Linux 7.1 on a Fujitsu drive 10 Gig.? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] Installation problem
the ATA100 channel on the A7V is reported in windows as a SCSI device. It has to load its own BIOS at boot time in order to function and I do not know if the linux kernel can successfully talk with an ATA100 BIOS yet. My won't boot if I move HD1 to the ATA100 controller which is a bummer because even ATA66 drives get a huge performace gain from being on that controller. Obviously I haven't tested it in linux yet but in wandows on my ata66 controller my ata 66 drive gets burst trasnfer to about 48MBs and sustained around 28-32MBs. On the ATA100 controller it gets burst of around 65-70MBs and sustained around 50. I've been told that the 2.4 kernel addresses ata100 but I hear that the 2.4 kernel addresses everything that doesn't currently work in linux so I'm starting to be a bit skeptical since I'm using 2.4.0 from mandrake 7.2b3 right now. Abe "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: I had this same problem a few weeks ago. Try plugging the HD into a regular IDE channel. For some reason Linux doesn't seem to like the ATA/100. -Original Message- From: Sebastien (vezinse) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Installation problem I have the Linux Mandrake7.1 installation CD. The installation starts but it keeps telling me «DO YOU HAVE ANY SCSI DEVICE ?» and I don't have one. I say no but it keeps asking me that question. impossible to go any further. I have on my Asus A7V motherboard a «Promise ULTRA DMA/100» chip. My harddrive is connected to the ATA100 connector on the mainboard. I think maybe that's what he takes for a SCSI device. What can I do ??? I don't know linux at all. But I can't even get to installation step1. I need help or need to know where to get some... -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] computers on 24/7
it was aging in the internet ether like a fine wine. What a wonderful story! I work in the tech department of a local computer repair shop. A few weeks ago a very pleasant older woman brought her computer in for servicing. She said that it was running very slow and crashes all the time, especially when online with AOL. It was an old IBM aptive with a pentium 133 and 16 megs of EDO ram. When I went to open the tower I noticed there were these weird dark stains on the tower by the grills on either side. When I opened the case up the most horrible smell arose from the machine. The smell of cat piss that had been cooking on hot electronics. The inside of her machine had a dust bunny about five inches long, three or four wide and about 6 tall in it and everything was covered in this weird mat of cooked cat hair, dust and cat piss. There were actually dried lumps of built up dehydrated cat piss in the bottom tray of the tower. I took it outside and ran an air compressor through the machine, wiped it down real good with isopropyl and let it dry over night. The next day I added the ram she wanted and the damn thing booted right up and ran very well for a win95 box. She called us last night to thank us for fixing her machine and to let us know that her cats have been banned from the computer room. I've been keeping a close watch on my cats activities near my computer for the past few weeks now ;-) Paranoid. John Rye wrote: What goes here? I sent this two days ago?? John Rye wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Dust is a major problem if you leave the cover off a computer. If you allow a blanket of dust to form, then heat buildup can definitely be worse than with the cover on. Fans are cheap nowadays, I think you should get an extra one. A Salutary Tale. Several years ago I was called to Pharmacy to see if I could check their PC out - they thought that a mouse might had died inside. The machine was a very tightly packed NEC 8088 clone. I asked when the machine had last been serviced, and was rather surprised to hear that it hadn't been looked at since it had been installed in 1984 and had been running 24/7 since then!! On opening the case I found a thick layer of matted dust, fibre, paper and various other bits and pieces which had been drawn inside the case, which was fitted into a drawer under a bench. Every component was coated! The floppy drive (5 1/4") was the most amazing I can say I ever saw - so totally filled with dust it could have easily been used to make masters for lost-wax process castings. The smell was from the cooking dirt and dust coating the cpu chip. I lifted the matted much off and restarted the machine and help my breath - It lasted about 5 minutes before giving out a loud 'snort' and failed completely - clouds of smoke, smell of burning plastic, and general panic as that was the budinesses complete record of prescriptions dispensed during the past 10 or so years! As you can image a new machine was installed and a cleaning regime instituted!! Cheers -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -- ICQ# 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
Re: [newbie] XFree86 4.0.1
I've had this problem too. All you have to do to fix this is boot to failsafe mode and enter into your XF86Config-4 file the absolute paths to your fonts. You can run emacs from the command line by typing emacs XF86Config-4 When you have made the changes that need to be made, hold down the CTRL button and hit x and then s to save your changes. Then Hold down CTRL and hit x and then c to close emacs. type startx to test it and you should be good. Good Luck! Abe Robin Regennitter wrote: Yeah, I had that problem once before. I tried installing 4.0.1 into the Mandrake 7.1 and I had that same font error you were describing. So I waited for the Mandrake 7.2rc to be release as 4.0.1 as the default. I just upgraded to 4.0.1 but get the following error when I 'startx' could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' does anyone have any input? I'm lost here, I tried reinstalling all the packages but it changed nothing thanks everyone Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The frammisgoshes should be distimmed because a frammisgosh is like a farble and distimming is like gosketing and our ancestors always gosketed the farbles. --R.A. Wilson
[newbie] start windowmaker?
I boot to a text login rather then a graphical one on my machine for reasons that are too involved to explain right now. I use the .xinitrc file to choose my window manager. I like to use both windowmaker and gnome depending on my mood but I cannot remember the command to run a windowmaker session! Could someone please help me out? I'm having a wm kind of day in a gnome kind of world today and its driving me nuts. Thanks! Abe
