RE: [newbie] unsubscribe
These people are probably not as 'switched' on as you state. They bought into Linux chique and now find themselves in over their heads. -Original Message- From: Des Wass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 31, 1999 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] unsubscribe This is purely just a passing thoughtbut maybe list listserver could do with a tag line pointing people to the website to unsibscribe or explaining how to unsubscribe. While some complain it too hard to unsubscribe and that they don't have time, I find it frustrating to be deleting mail from people who are obviously switched on enough to try learning this wonderful OS, yet don't give a rats about how simple a mailing list works. Maybe something like: ### To unsubscribe: Please go to http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 ### Just my 2c worth. (There's a typo on the header for Developer's BTW, if anyone is listening...) On 31/12/99, Singer XJ Wang said: Because you are a DUMB retard who subscriibed and does not know how to UNSCRIBE. go to mandrake web page and READ THE FUCKING MANUAL -Original Message- From: neilrathbone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE Please!! How can this be so hard? -- | http://www.prowebservers.com Desmond Wass| Web Hosting Systems {Mobile Stolen} | Phone: 08 9244 4877 | Fax: 08 9244 4977
RE: [newbie] RE: Source Code
I am going to hazard a couple of guesses here. One is it is more than likely written in C. The second is that the files you want to view follow the standard Unix convention for text files and have only a single linefeed/carriage return (can never remember exactly which one it is, might even be an EOL) and not the carriage return/linefeed combination used in a windows world. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Ricki Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 25, 1999 10:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] RE: Source Code I tried to take a look at the source code for Mandrake using the source code cd. I was unsuccessful, I tried to open it in Borland C++ but could not find any files that would display anything. Could someone please tell me how I can see the source code and which language it is written in. Thanks and Season's Greetings Jennifer Wise ICQ:6765592
RE: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
Try using the DOS fdisk command. 'fdisk mbr' should get rid of Lilo on your master boot record. After that just install Windows on the drive you want and then re-install your Linux and run Lilo again. -Original Message- From: Tyler Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21, 1999 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! snip Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. snip
RE: [newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!!
Beauty, now we're getting spammed in Spanish. -Original Message- From: Moises Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21, 1999 7:13 AM To: Moises Lopez Subject: [newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!! Buenas tardes, os informo que tenemos en Stock DVD'S de Panasonic a muy buen precio: DVD-PANASONIC P.V.D. 12.900,- ptas. DVD DE PANASONIC 6X32X SIN TARJETA DESCOMPRESORA Catalogo DVD.doc
RE: [newbie] Sound Setup
First off, because someone is going to tell you anyway, turn off the html. It is considered poor netiquette. Secondly, it's not '(VERIFY N)', it's '(VERIFYLD N)' that goes in the file. -Original Message- From: Jamey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 10:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Sound Setup Excuse me for asking for so much help! I just purchased linux about 2 days ago, and I think I'm doing fair for a first timer. Anyway my problem is: First of all I had a SB Live value card but i found out that linux did not support it, So I took it out and enable my onboard sound chip. Linux found it (By the way I have L-Mandrake 6.5) But when it probed it it came up with an error telling me to add (VERIFY N) into the sndconfg file. So I did and tryed again but this time when it probes the card it completely looks up so bad the only way out is RESET! Im wondering how I can edit it manually, Ive got all the info from windows ( Dual boot) . Or should i just purchase another sound card?
RE: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can DoIt -gpav
Report it through www.spamcop.net I did. Maybe if the host gets enough spam notices they'll do something about it. -Original Message- From: Toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 18, 1999 2:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can DoIt -gpav Telephone solicitors have found you again John!! So true, but just delete this one, I did. Pisses you off though huh? Me too. Maybe the folks sponsoring this mail list can fix it B. B.
RE: [newbie] make?
It appears you may not have some of the development tools installed, of which 'make' is one. Ensure you have all the necessary ones installed, check the file list for the packages you don't have installed to see if any of them included 'make'. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Kersenbrock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 17, 1999 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] make? Here are the instructions from the README: --- Become root, open a terminal window, and enter the following: perl Makefile.PL make make test make install --- Step 1 works. "perl Makefile.PL" makes a "Makefile". But Step 2 is "make". This is the instruction that doesn't work. Out of curiosity, I also tried "Makefile", but it does also nothing. Jeremy
Re: [newbie] The FREE In Linux
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, root wrote: What does it says it's trying to download, as it's obviously not locked This may not be a unique problem. I have a fairly stable and fast cable modem connection. I have tried connecting to a local mirror (right here in town) and the install always hangs after about 48 files. I gave up after about the 10th try. I'm using the ftp image supplied by the mirror. I would assume it's the same one on all the mirrors.
RE:Attn: byte-runner [newbie] Desktop Icons
Why did your e-mail ask for a read receipt? Are you building a mail list or something? -Original Message- From: Ralph | byte-runner | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 8, 1999 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Desktop Icons did you try deleting them :-) byte - Original Message - From: "Lars Nordin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 12:43 PM Subject: [newbie] Desktop Icons Greetings, I was wondering how I could cut down on the number of icons on my desktop. I tried moving them to a folder on my desktop but the next time I logged in all those icons were regenerated so that I have a set on the desktop and and set in my folder. How can keep those icons from reappearing on my desktop? -- Lars Nordin Noble Systems Corporation
RE: [newbie] Linux fragmentation?
As long as there is an opportunity to commercially exploit Linux we will have those who will attempt to taint it in their own fashion, making their clientele dependant upon using only their version. This is a fact of life. It is a price you will pay for the operating system to become more and more Windows like in order to push it on to more desktops. And we support this by demanding all the same features Windows gave us, GUI interfaces, graphical web browsers, graphical anything. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- snip Umm. . .well if its really that big a deal there are always tar.gz arcs ya kno. Ive actually taken to using them over rpms just cuz i find them simpler. Granted i give up things like package tracking and easy uninstalling, but on the upside, i know where everything is. . .and i dont have to worry so much about dependencies. . . I think a bigger issue right now as far as linux fragmentation is the intro of ext3. . .is redhat the ms of linux? snip
RE: [newbie] MSIE when?
There will never be an MS IE for Linux. Find out what whoever is telling you that is smoking. I want some. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donny Sent: November 23, 1999 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] MSIE when? Hay, wasnt MSIE supossed to be out in november for linux? Thats wat i heard.
RE: [newbie] Definitely Off Topic
I'm afraid I have to side with the IT guys/company owners. You're there to work, not chat. It's my machinery so to speak, if you want to chat go to a cybercafe for lunch. Too many issues about proper use of company time and equipment let alone the number of denizens looking for somebody to dns and then try to hack the system later, not to mention potential DOS attacks. Want to take those risks, my reply would be do it with your own system, not mine. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Philp Sent: November 23, 1999 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Definitely Off Topic John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote: Hi! I know this is off topic, but I noticed that a lot of you guys are Network Admins or similar.. I was just wondering if the following Saga is common practice by you guys... We have just been connected in the past month to the Internet at work and the following is the Lowdown of the past 2 days here. BTW, my work machine is a Windoze98 one :-( Install Mandrake on your work machine and tell him to stuff it! :-) He can't block you THEN! :-) (course he COULD just format and reinstall Windoze after you leave... G) For our company, that would be considered destruction of company property and would be a terminable offense. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Apache/public_html
Are the permissions for the directories you want people to be able to access world readable? This is necessary otherwise only the owner of the parent directory will be able to see anything in it. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pete Clapham Sent: November 22, 1999 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Apache/public_html Hi, all -- I am the one who needed to allow users to ftp various web documents to their home directories and then have them visible on the web. Several of you answered me that one should put these web documents into the public_html directory and to be sure that the UserDir public_html statement existed in the httpd.conf file. Well, I did this. Users have public_html directories on their home directories, and these directories have html stuff in them. But when I try to go to the directory, I get the "Forbidden" message. Clearly the directory exists, and there is html there. But I can't see it. I suspect that there is some configuration step that needs to be done in order to tell the browser that the "public_html" directory is, in fact, public. Can anybody advise me what it is? Thanks. Cheers, pete Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Phone: [216] 697-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7175 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Books
Have to disagree with you here. 'Using Linux' by Bill Ball has to be one of the most incomplete books I have read. It ranks right up there with any of the Sams learn anything in 24hrs/days books. I think one would be far better off to purchase a book like O'Reilly's 'Running Linux' 3rd Edition. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Sher Sent: November 12, 1999 5:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Books Dear Jeff: Get "Using Linux" by Bill Ball. In my opinion, tt's one of the best all-around introduction to Linux. And reasonably priced ($30) Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
RE: [newbie] Good Newsgroup Reader?
I beg to differ. The newsreader in Netscape handles all the attachments and embedded docs I ever run into on usenet. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chip Rose. Sent: November 12, 1999 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Good Newsgroup Reader? Linux has nothing that even remotely matches Agent/Free Agent, or the other Windows newsreaders, *PARTICULARLY* in regard to handling binary files (pics, mp3's). Agent just downloads them and automatically and quickly opens the file in Winamp or in an photo/image viewer like VuePro. In Linux you've got to download the file and then start another helper application to open the file separately - kind of like going out in the winter cold to crank-start your car and then opening the hood to manually start it again at every traffic light/stop sign, and then once you're finished driving it. A killer-app is one that you'd be willing to change OS's for - the Agent/Vuepro combination is a killer app in my opinion. I always use SLRN for news - it is very fast and fairly efficient for TEXT, but it won't handle binaries hardly at all - at least not without the tedious manual downloading, saving to a directory and then re-opening with another application like Winamp or XV photo viewer etc.. I LOVE Linux, but it's a definite "non-player" in the Usenet world.. I'd certainly go ahead and purchase a commercial app for Linux if there were one that was anywhere near the efficiency/ability of Agent.
RE: [newbie] Time settings !
This all seems well and good but I seem to have another problem. The time setting is correct but it continually shows the wrong time zone. It is showing MST and it should be PST. How do I change the time zone. I have tried various permutations of including the 'PST' string inside my command to date to change the time but the best it does is keep the MST and set the clock one hour later than the time I input. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David M. Kufta Sent: October 31, 1999 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Time settings ! Good Morning newbie-list, Just as a reminder, in order to display the correct time on your linux system, if the cmd: date shows you the correct time you can simply run the cmd: clock -w to correctly set your hardware clock. The above would only occur if your system was left up and running during the time change. if date displayed is not correct follow the below instruction to correctly set it. Should it be necessary you can use the date command to correctly set you date and time. example: date 10310930 This will produce Sun Oct 31 09:30:00 EST 1999 when you use the cmd: date if this time is now correct simply use the cmd: clock -w to set you hardware clock Alternative to this is to reboot the system enter cmos setup and set the correct time in cmos. Simply a reminder, Dave - - David M. Kufta http://www.slip.n3meq.ampr.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] REAL PORTION of Microsoft Windows code: while (memory_available){ eat_major_portion_of_memory (no_real_reason); if (feel_like_it) make_user_THINK (this_is_an_OS); gates_bank_balance++; } My Current Dynamic IP Address Is http://216.155.33.12 To program is to be.
RE: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh?
I think the ksh shell should be available to you if you installed it. And there is always the bash shell (Bourne Again) which seems to be the defacto standard in Linux. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Norris Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh? I'd like to refresh my Unix scripting knowledge, but I have no access to pure Unix boxes now, so I need to practise on my own linux machine. Which shell should I use to get the best response from Korn shell scripts?
RE: [newbie] Fortify install
Dear Folks, Regarding Fortify. I have the 128-bit encrypted Netscape. The version that requires you to swear you are a Canadian or American citizen to download. The bottom line is I tested it on Fortify's site. They said the encryption is military weapons grade and I don't need their product. BTW, this applies to both my Windows and my Linux versions of Netscape. So I really don't know what all the fuss is about. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')
RE: [newbie] Where is my message ????
Some mailer readers may not be handling attachments well so it may be better, seeing as you attachment is small and not really in need of being an attachment, to just put it in the body of your message. Secondly, Composer in Netscape running under Linux is broken, this is well documented in the archives of this maillist on the Mandrake homepage. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dominique Deleris Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Where is my message It's the 5th time I send a message about Netscape to the list, and it never appeared ! What's happening ? I attached it to my mail. Are messages about Netscape filtered ?
RE: [newbie] MS Internet Explorer
What are you running for a machine, Netscape here runs quite fast. It is actually faster on this box in Linux mode then it is in Windows mode. Secondly, Bill Gates hates Linux, I don't think you will be seeing IE in this lifetime. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeanette Russo Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Internet Explorer Slava Bezguin wrote: Hello! Is it possible to use MS Internet Explorer in Mandrake instead of ugly Netscape? I don't want offence any Netscape lover, but the page full of Java and other modern things gets opened in about 2 min in MSIE and about 5 min in Netscape. Thanx in advance. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com There is no version of IE that will run on Linux unless you run a program like VMWARE that allows you to run windows programs on Linux. Jeanette
RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
What version of Outlook are you using? I have Outlook 98 and that option is not present. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Batchelor Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it inherit the format from the post I am replying to? Yes. Under tools options send There is a check box second from the bottom about replying in the format the sender used. Deselect the choice.
RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML
There was talk some time ago for a FAQ for this group. It was a good idea but seemed to have faded. I would like to see one similar to what some newsgroups use and maybe have it posted automatically to the list every two weeks or so. Those who know what it is could ignore it from the subject heading and others could read it. If we did a good job we might be able to get the fine people at Mandrake to include it on their website along with the stuff about joining this mail list. It could cover netiquette as it applies to this list plus also have a list of websites with solutions and information about some of the more common problems that keep repeating themselves over and over on here, i.e. Why won't my Winmodem work?, Why do I get the partition was not unmounted cleanly (needs kernel/script upgrade), etc. Oh, and how to get off the list. :-) Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 7:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, you wrote: I think it would be useful if the information on decorum for this list were placed in the majordomo welcome, along with a short tutorial on how to turn off HTML for those who don't realize it. I know how to do it for Netscape, but I am among the unwashed masses who have NEVER used Microsoft Outlook. Based on the number of "remove" requests posted to the list, the actual number of people who actually *READ* the welcome message is probably quite small. Thus, the chances of the "Nettiquette" tutorial having any effect is negligible. However, if it saved us ONE post in HTML, I suppose it'd be worth it, and it wouldn't be that much trouble, as it would automatically go out with the 'welcome' message... just create that "nettiquette" tutorial once and it would go out automatically from there. :-) John
OT: Imation Needs a Spellchecker (was RE: [newbie] .iso file?)
Maybe they meant to call their marque "Imitation". Could explain the reportedly low quality of their writeable CD's. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jesse Royall Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] .iso file? Imation makes good coasters also! and you don't have to screw anything up on those! hehe.. So. watch what media you use. On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:15:30 -0400 John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, you wrote: Hello, I have ftp'd the file mandrake61-1.iso file. I burned this file using Nero Burning Rom using the ISO section. I now have a CDrom with one file on it; mandrake61-1.iso. My question is now what do I do? How is this file read? When the file was burned to the CD I fiqured it would of been opened up to many files. Do I have a coaster here? You have a coaster. I *think* you have to tell it to use this file as an IMAGE, not as a file. John ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
RE: [newbie] Backup options
Collect all the files you want to back up in a tar archive. Compress this archive with gzip. Copy or transfer the resulting file to the other drive. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Mings Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Backup options I would like to be able to use a backup program to backup some files to a harddrive in a directory on another computer on my network. Seems to me, from what I have looked at, that the two main commercial backup programs are focused towards tape drives. Could someone tell me what my best option might be for this usage (Preferably cheap or free :-) . I am used to Retrospect on the Mac that can backup to damn near anything with ease. Thanks! Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
RE: [newbie] 100dpi
Yup, it sure does. So does HTML in your postings. Ken WilsonFirst Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DonnySent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 2:09 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 100dpi I was wondering how to enable Linux to use 100 dpi fonts and my windows TT fonts. Netscape looks terrible!
RE: [newbie] shutdown not happening cleanly. Help, please
There is a kernel upgrade and a script fix available from the updates for 6.0 on the Mandrake website. Get them and install them. Your problem should go away. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Winston Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] shutdown not happening cleanly. Help, please When I shutdown from Linux Mandrake 6.0, I get messages saying some files are still busy and aren't being shutdown right. Then, on booting up, a check is forced of the root partition, /dev/hda1, for having been uncleanly mounted. What could this be? Help? = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype
I stand to be corrected but I would also think you need to have the 100 dpi fonts installed. I don't use them on my machine so they're not installed. It's been a while so I don't remember if installing them was optional or not. This probably isn't a complete answer to your problem but is maybe one place to look. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Salts Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype Hello, John, Maybe you could help me with this or maybe I've already done it, I don't know. Somebody in this list told me about a website: http://www.mandrake.org to go to that had info as how to enlarge the Linux tinytype fonts. Well, I went there, got the directions, printed out the directions, located this config file, opened it using 'gedit' as a text editor, swapped the 75's for the 100's in both entries, one in the /X11/fs and the line in the 'default-resolutions= 75,75,100,100 to the reverse of that and saved the changes, got out of gedit, and read the next set of directions which said: Restart the X Font Server by issuing this command as root: kill -SIGUSR1 $ (pidof xfs) It didn't say where I should be in Linux when I was supposed to issue this command. I thought I should be in the console when I did that, so I got up the console and, as root, typed out the above command and got this reply: 'unexpected 'p' I guess something was supposed to have restarted up but nothing like that happened. I just wonder if I did everything necessary by simply retyping the changes in that config file and saving it or did I need to do something else? I hope I've described this fully to you. Is changing the file enough or do I have to issue that 'kill' command and if so, where do I issue it? In the console? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks Richard - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, you wrote: John, I have this same problem with Linux Netscape. Very s-m-a-l-l print. What do you mean about 'swap the order of the "75dpi" and "100dpi" fonts? How does this give 100 dpi fonts? Richard Swap the order of the 75dpi and 100 dpi fonts in the XF86Config file. This will call the 100dpi fonts insteadlarger fonts. You should be able to go in and manually select larger fonts anyway... John
RE: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype
To find out if you have the 100 dpi fonts installed type the following rpm -q XFree86-100dip-fonts Do this from the text console if that's how you log on or from a terminal window if you start up in XWindows. Notes: Changing fonts is not just a question of editing fonts.dir. There is a tool that will create a proper fonts.dir file for you. It has been a while so I can't really tell you what the name of it is. The mail list archives on Mandrake could help you though, this subject has been worked to death. After that you can delete the fonts you are pretty sure you won't be using but don't change anything else, except for the count value at the very beginning of the file. That has to be equal to the number of fonts the fonts.dir file actually refers to. There is some talk of deleting reference to all fonts that aren't referred to as iso8559-1. I personally cannot say one way or another if this is a good thing or not. My advice on this point is to invoke "Tinker's Rule #1" which is "Make a backup so you can restore the system to what appeared to be normal for most folks before you got your fingers in it and screwed up the works." Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Salts Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype Ken, How would I find out whether they are installed or not? Richard
RE: [newbie] panoramix must change its name
You may want to avoid the name Houdini. It is a trade name registered to a Canadian software company, Side Effects Software, and is the name of their complete 3-D solution, encompassing modelling, compositing, lighting, particle systems, texture management, rendering and animation features. BTW, this product is in the process of being ported to Linux. It may already be. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 8:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] panoramix must change its name
RE: [newbie] How do I turn in a hacker?
Or it's possibly an university student testing all the things he's learning about tcp/ip, sockets and ports and it's really quite harmless. From what I saw in the log report did not really demonstrate anything I would be inclined to call a serious attempt at hacking. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I turn in a hacker? On Fri, 08 Oct 1999, you wrote: Here You Go My Friend... I queried him for you all the info i have found is below, i suggest emailing the following person with your complaint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the admin from which he subscribes "ripe.net") Actually, the person you need to email is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" This is a university computer, so it sounds like someone has hacked their mainframe and is using it to find "open" redhat boxes. :-) John
[newbie] lilo.conf
What purpose does the command 'compact' serve in 'lilo.conf'? Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')
RE: [newbie] L-M screwed up HDD completely?
Did you format the partitions? I would think that a file system of some sort had to be set on the partitions before they'd be readable. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin DeGraaf Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] L-M screwed up HDD completely? Hi all, I have two hard disk drives. My primary master is a 14.4 GB that has one partition (Win98 and all apps, data, etc.). My primary slave is a 2.5 GB with no data on it. I tried to install Linux-Mandrake, with the intention of putting it on the smaller HDD. I messed around with Disk Druid, and I thought I told it to create two new partitions (Linux native and Linux swap) on the smaller HDD. It messed up, though, and I had to reboot. Now, Disk Druid, Linux's fdisk, and Win98's fdisk all say that that drive is not accessable. Win98's fdisk is the only util that will actually do something with the drive. It appears to let me delete the two partitions and create a new one, but when I reboot, I run Win98's fdisk again and it still gives me the same warning message and the two non-DOS partitions on the drive. It appears totally FUBARed. Any ideas? Kevin DeGraaf
RE: [newbie] newbie-remove (Definitely OT)
I'm beginning to think it's the same newbie over and over again because he likes getting all that fan mail. :-) That, or they're so intellectually challenged that if reading the instructions that get sent when they enrol is quantum physics then Linux must seem like another universe in another dimension. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] newbie-remove On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: Maybe they're just stupid. :-( Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several times trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you got started. Geeever think maybe they're just too damn lazy to go visit the site where they first got the info on how to subscribe
RE: [newbie] Netscape 4.7 released on win32
I just checked Netscape's web site out. 4.7 is available as Linux 2.0 or Linux 2.0(glibc). Ken Wilson First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eosnet Team Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Netscape 4.7 released on win32 Any word on when (if not already) there will be a 4.7 for linux?
RE: [newbie] Re:
But didn't you just love that nice shade of green, for those that can read in html that is. :-) Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry Marler Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Re: --On Wednesday, September 29, 1999, 5:57 PM +0200 Stefan Van Dessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: newbie remove ..in HTML, no less ;-)
RE: [newbie] More PHP woes
The safe_mysqld script should run at boot time if you followed a standard installation. If not, set it up to run at boot time. Remember to have it run in the background by adding the ''. It is best to use safe_mysqld to start and run mysql because after it starts it constantly checks to see if it's running. If it should die for some reason, safe_mysqld will restart it. Also, any parameter you pass to safe_mysqld get passed to the MySQL daemon itself. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Stewart Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] More PHP woes On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Brett Jones wrote: Was the devel rpm the same version as the apache rpm your running. If not, upgrade the apache rpm to the same version as the apache-devel rpm. That was the problem. Thanks. Strange, since I'm sure I upgraded apache to that version previously. What's the best way to launch the msql server during start-up? James.
RE: [newbie] conio.h file missing?
You say for obvious reasons but I can't see anything that obvious. I would suggest going back to the instructor and ask him 1) why are you mixing C and C++? 2) why are you using 'conio.h' which is meant to handle platform specific I/0 as opposed to 'stdio.h' which is the standard ANSI C header? What I get from my reference material here at home is "getch() - Reads a character without echo; does not wait for carriage return; not defined by ANSI standard C, but a common extension." This may mean a few things, possibly having to turn off ANSI compliance or, worst case scenario, it may be a common extension but the supplier of your compiler didn't. I'm sure your instructor has his reasons, i.e. hiding character input of a password. Go back to him and get him to give you a better bang for your education dollar on this one. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] conio.h file missing? ... I'm making another C++ program for school, and we are using cout "press the any key to continue"; getch(); for obvious reasons. My problem is that we're supposed to use conio.h file to define getch(). It ain't there . . . ...
RE: [newbie] conio.h file missing? (Possibly OT by now 8- )
Okay. Understood. We approached it differently where I was schooled. Java first to make getting your head around OOP easier. Then C++. Assembler was done first term alongside Java and C was done when we started to get into operating system details using the Linux OS as the basis for theory and discussion. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] conio.h file missing? snip And we use stdio for everything else. The reason we're mixing them is b/c C++ is C incremented. C++ contains c. We start out with functional programming and then move up to OOP. snip
RE: [newbie] Re: []
I am waiting for the day someone types 'remove' and someone replies 'me too'. hehehe :-) Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Scottaline Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Re: [] John Paul Donaldson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remove = Do they do this on purpose?? Release the hounds!! AGAIN! :o) ++ Michael Scottaline COL 2.2 Linux 2.2.5 * * * * * * * * * * * It's a fresh wind that Blows Against the Empire Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
RE: [newbie] (Off Topic)
Well, it's spam. Keep it out of the mailing list please. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of fred Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 3:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (Off Topic) Off topic http://www.linuxnic.net Spam? I guess a bit of shameless promotion -:) Blame me directly at the above email if you are bent. Cheers.
RE: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!?
Eric, I wouldn't say whoever it is has hacked your box, at least not yet. But it is evidence they tried. It's not that hard, you just telnet to port 25 and manually feed it commands line by line. Read up on sendmail, 'man sendmail' might be a start, and get a book on Unix and Internet Security. I have 'Practical Unix and Internet Security' by Simson Garfinkel and Gene Spafford from O'Reilly. It has some interesting stuff on sendmail. I used some of the stuff to test my security. Fortunately I found out my version of sendmail was current enough not to respond to the commands 'wiz', 'debug' or 'kill'. Sendmail is an all things to all people kind of mail daemon. You might want to check into alternate servers for your smtp needs. Because of its size and the workload it can handle sendmail can be a real dog to configure properly. I don't know how hard post is to configure but one solution might be to switch to it. I'm sure someone at Mandrake can shed more light on the arguments for and against each of these daemons. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric L. Damron -Original Message- From: Eric L. Damron I have found that people unknown are attacking my linux box! The following entries were found in maillog: snip horrible whining sound Please! If anyone knows what this jerk is trying to do and How I can stop him PLEASE let me know! Thanks.
RE: [newbie] (Off Topic)
Fred, I think you're missing the point. Legal or not, it comes across as some carnival huckster who thinks we are just a bunch of schmoes. Take it an pedal it somewhere else and don't insult our intelligence. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of fred Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:28 PM To: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] (Off Topic) More than just that: shameless promotion of an *illegal* product that *won't ever work*. You can't just create a TLD all of your own and ask ISPs to list you as a root nameserver. There's nothing that prevents me from doing the same for just the same TLD, and where will that get us? Anyone can do this and its not illegal. Wrong.
RE: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!?
Try doing 'nslookup 123.456.789.12'. See if it resolves to anything you can use. Oh, substitute the ip address of the person who's been trying to hack you for the one I got to lazy to make legitimate looking. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 7:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!? how do you find this info? is there a command (or service) that will give you this info about an ip? :P_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to contact the owner of the network from which this traffic originated. It may give you some sense of satisfaction to know that the script-kiddie in question got nailed by his university. Here's the contact information for 157.89.64.77. Enjoy! Eastern Kentucky University (NET-EKU) Academic Computing Services 3.395219E-313astern Kentucky University Richmond, KY 40475-3111 Netname: EKU Netnumber: 157.89.0.0 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: ACS.EKU.EDU157.89.8.64 NCC.UKY.EDU128.163.1.6 Record last updated on 12-Apr-93. Registrant: Eastern Kentucky University (EKU-DOM) Academic Computing Services Combs Classroom Bldg Room 207 Richmond, KY 40475-3111 US Domain Name: EKU.EDU Administrative Contact: Lane, Margaret (CT152) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (606)622-1986 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: ALCORN, MELVIN (MA172) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (606)622-1986 Billing Contact: Lane, Margaret (CT152) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (606)622-1986 Record last updated on 20-Aug-98. Record created on 22-Mar-93. Database last updated on 21-Sep-99 14:40:22 EDT. -Original Message- From: axalon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:30 PM To: newbie Cc: axalon Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!? On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Eric L. Damron wrote: I have found that people unknown are attacking my linux box! The following entries were found in maillog: Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1979]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]: VRFY guest Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1980]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]: VRFY decode Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1981]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]: VRFY bbs Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1982]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]: VRFY lp Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1983]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]: VRFY uudecode Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1977]: NOQUEUE: "wiz" command from [157.89.64.77] (157.89.64.77) Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1977]: NOQUEUE: "debug" command from [157.89.64.77] (157.89.64.77) (WHAT THE HELL IS THE "WIZ" COMMAND. AND THE "DEBUG" COMMAND!! Please! If anyone knows what this jerk is trying to do and How I can stop him PLEASE let me know! Thanks. ipchains -I input -s 157.89.64.77/0 -d 0/0 -j REJECT -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon -- -- Name: WINMAIL.DAT WINMAIL.DATType: application/ms-tnef Encoding: base64
RE: [newbie] Netscape
Are you sure it's Netscape that is causing the problem? I'm running 4.61 on my box at home and it is in 24bpp mode. Colours are all good. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, you wrote: well since everyone is talking about netscape i have a question for you. Does anyone know why my button icons, and the little netscape comet thing all appear in black and white? its netscape 4.61 and im running in 24bit color mode. thanks It's because you ARE in 24-bit mode. It's something to do with Netscape...not Mandrake. :-) It does it here in RedHat in 24-bit mode as well... John
RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer
Donny, If you've been paying attention, the IE for Linux will be available about the 32nd of Never. At least that is the general concensus. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donny Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer ok, thanx... wenz the version of IE for linux gonna be availible?
RE: [[newbie] Internet Explorer]
Except that it won't support server push technology, or at least still didn't last time I looked. Netscape does support server push. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Scottaline Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] Internet Explorer] Donny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, does anyone know of a version of IE for linux? Or if any of the Unix versions of IE will run under linux? Thanks! == No such animal AFAIK. Too bad. It's one of the better M$ products :o( Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
RE: [newbie] HP 722C printer no fly.
It's a 'WinPrinter'. Won't even crawl under Linux, let alone fly. I think there's a work around that will give you black and white only but I've misplaced the information at this time. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jaybird X Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 5:43 AM To: Linux List (newbie) Subject: [newbie] HP 722C printer no fly. My HP 722C won't even flinch on any of the HP prfiles in printtool. They cover the 5xx, 6xx, and 8xx series machines though. Is there a reason this model isn't supported? This is the last hardware knot on my semi-painless maiden linux voyage(except for the P-port scanner, but I ain't asking for miracles yet!). Asus P5A K6-II 400 Mandrake 6.0 Jay Deacon -- Be the first one on your block to put a Penguin in your box.
RE: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar
No need for the expletives. BTW, if you're not into a little RTFM now and then you are both 1) using the wrong OS if you think you can do Linux without it, and 2) not going to get much sympathy or help for your problems from those of us who do our RTFM when it's required. :-) Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric L. Damron Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 8:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar Thanks for the info Brett. And BTW I am a newbie to Linux and I have been RTFM almost constantly and I'm getting F*king tired of RTFM so if I can get a little information without RTFM, I certainly will. So, If anyone out there can tell me how to install a "tar.gz" file so that I don't have to RTFM I would appreciate it! Thanks. -Original Message- From: Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar Downloaded it with winblows? It should be php-3.0.9.tar.gz. You should go download the newest tar file "3.0.12" from php.net, and while your there RTFM. Note: It may be installed on your sys already. Run "rpm -q php" In the future go to a real software database site (freshmeat.net), that has the current tar files for any given software package. On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, you wrote: I need to install PHP. I picked up PHP-3_0_9_tar.tar from http://www.downloadsafari.com How do I know that this file will work with Mandrake 6.0 (RedHat 6.0) How do I install it? Thanks -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] the programming language
I believe the primary language for most of Linux is C. You may find that some of the add-ons and other applications are written in other languages. Emacs, for example, uses Lisp. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Brault Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] the programming language Sorry for the overly simple question... but can anyone tell me what language Linux was written in? Thanks in advance and don't laugh too long and hard! Joe :)
RE: [newbie] mru mtu settings
Listen to your provider. From what I have been able to obtain in the way of information this is more necessary when winmodems and Windows are involved. Also, one may want to adjust them carefully. You may increase your traffic over the net one way or the other at the expense of the other processes you are running on your computer at the time. This isn't the final word though. If you hear something different feel free to play with those settings and let us know of the results. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:50 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] mru mtu settings Hi I wonder if anyone has taking time to adjust there mru or mtu settings? If you have what were the settings you used? I have been told not to adjust them by my provider. But I read somewhere that they need to be adjusted to get the best speed possible from my modem Thanks Hugh
RE: [newbie] Recoverable disk space
Not wanting to seem like I'm talking down to you but I might think you wouldn't want to be using a hex editor yet if you have to ask what it is. That said, it is a tool, much like a regular text editor, EXCEPT, it lets you play with the individual bytes as hexadecimal values and arbitrarily change them to any value you wish. As you can see, doing this to a simple text file might not be so bad, doing it to an executable or a specially encoded file could be deadly. It's located off one of the utilities menus in your desktop. Take a peak at a file with it if you wish. Play with it if you're brave, but don't say you weren't forwarned. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Kersenbrock Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Recoverable disk space Bob, Perhaps my newbie status concerning technical issues is showing... What is a hex editor? I have already uninstalled a good portion of the software on my machine and have nothing left in the Running Programs list (CtrlAltDel) other than Explorer and Systray. All I've gained is 60-some MB of recoverable space. At least I've eliminated some of the scattered clusters, but now I have two large (1000+ cluster) clumps near the end of the drive that I can't get out of the way. If I could move or eliminate these cluster groups, I could recover sufficient space and almost half of my drive. As it is, I can only now recover 120 MB from a disk with more than 1 Gig of free space! I suspect that the problem clusters are acutally parts of Windows itself -- maybe even something vital like the Registry. Maybe I'll be able to tell once I know what a hex editor is and how to use it. Thanks Jeremy - Original Message - From: Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Recoverable disk space I was just using Commander as an example of the type of program. Hmmm, have you tryed looking at the sectors with a hex editor? Don't change anything, just look, maybe you can find a clue as to what program that they belong to. Another indicator will be the date on those files. If you can figure out what the filenames are (hex editor again) check the dates, if they get updated regularly then they probably belong to a ysytem level program. If they haven't been touched in a long time they may be leftovers from something that's no longer on your system. Once you identify them there ater ways to deal with them. See what you can find out. Good luck Bob Jackson
[newbie] RE:
Stop what? I didn't do it. And even if you have evidence I'll deny it. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oliver Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: STOP __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
RE: [newbie] STOP
And no, you don't have to show us hairy palms to prove it. I'm getting older and my eyesight is doing that age thing. So I figured, long as I need glasses anyway, I could start again. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron deRozario Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:52 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] STOP I've got a seeing eye dog -Original Message- From: Ken Archer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] STOP I just did it till I needed glasses. Alas I cannot, been doin it for 45 odd years now. The Pope did say if I did not stop I'd go blind. Michael Doyle Adelaide, South Australia ICQ # 2635762 http://landofoz.apana.org.au -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail
RE: [newbie] gcc not working
If you are still in the directory you compiled it in try running it as follows "./filename" That will run it if you are in the same directory you compiled in. I suspect the problem you are seeing is because the directory you compiled in is not included in your environment's path variable. Secondly, did you compile properly, i.e "gcc filename.c -o filename". If not, look for a file called 'a.out', which you could then run by typing './a.out' Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] gcc not working Hello, I've just installed 6.0, and gotten almost everything working well. But when I tried to compile my "Hello World" program to see if gcc is working, I got a weird error saying something like "cannot find file or dir", and I know this is not the case. The file is there. A simple gcc w/ no args works, I get the "no file given" error. Anyone had similar problems or know how to fix this? Thanks, Scott
RE: [newbie] Mount hd on boot
This hasn't been trialed but is only a reasoned solution based on my limited knowledge. You may wish to wait until you hear further from other more learned parties. Try playing with the permissions for your mount point, in particular the group. If you want write access for certain select users set up a new group, i.e. dosusers, and add the people you want in that group. Then change the mount point group to dosusers, ie. chgrp dosusers /mnt/drive-h. When this is done change the permissions, i.e. chmod 770 /mnt/drive-h. This should allow root and any members of the dosusers group to have read/write access to the drive. You will notice that world access of any type has been eliminated so that only the select few will even get near the dos partitions. I believe the permissions on your dos mount points as they stand now are probably rwxr_xr_x root root. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Brown Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 1:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mount hd on boot Ken Wilson wrote: When you set the options for your vfat partitions don't use 'default' but add each one you need manually. Using 'rw' will allow you to both read and write to a vfat partition. That doesn't do it. It mounts the drive in read-write mode, which means the _system_ can write to it, but it still gives "access denied" when a non-root user tries to write to it. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
RE: [newbie] gcc doesn't understand iostream.h
Try using g++ instead of gcc. Otherwise, you have to link the c++ libraries manually. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 6:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] gcc doesn't understand iostream.h Since my reinstall I can't compile my simple Comp. Sci. I programs under gcc. It gives me errors saying undefined function calls to cout, cin, etc. How do I get my header libraries back? Thanks!! -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 26147713
RE: [newbie] Runlevel 5
Alt+Backspace usually shuts down a hung X server. It might take you out and back to a console. Other than that just run a console from within X. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Goth Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Runlevel 5 I need to set runlevel 5 as default for my dad's sake. That way he can log in and shut down the system with ease (he doesn't know any other way). But with kdm, he just clicks his picture and enters his password... Sometimes, though, I find it necessary to kill X. How can I do so without rebooting into runlevel 3? Is there a way to stop kdm and X after having booted into runlevel 5? Thanks in advance, guys __ _ Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] zap.to/andygoth/ UIN: 35256413
RE: [newbie] RPM's without docs?
You raise a very good question. I loaded the rpm for mysql and although the package lists all of the docs, none of them made it into the alleged directory, or anywhere else on my system for that matter. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] RPM's without docs? i too have had these problems. every package i installed when i first installed mandrake has the docs. packages i have installed since then have the doc directories built, but they are empty. i have only used kpackage for installation, so i wonder if there is a bug? :P
RE: [newbie] Partition Erro
I can't speak for Mr. Miller but I can for myself. I have a dual boot with Windows and Linux on it. I use them both as somethings are more convenient in one OS then the other. Also, I am currently studying computer systems technology and have come to the realization that, in the real world, what I would like to work with and what I get to work with are two completely different animals. So the more I know about each the better. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Erro On 11 Sep 99, at 14:59, Leonard W. Miller wrote: Thanks foe the tip. I used Fdisk and change the cylinder size and then used Druid. Everything went fine. Sorry for the html. Thanks again for the help. Leonard W. Miller Microsoft Certified Professional A+ Certified Technician Pardon me Mr. Miller if I poke a little fun at (possibly) your expense... Anyone else notice the irony of a Microsoft Certified Professional on a Linux newbie mailing list? I realize that the more one has in the way of information, the better. Becoming more informed about multiple OS's is a good idea, but I can't help but imagine some kind of disenchantment or "there has to be a better way" behind the interest in Linux. Just my 2 cents, and you know what you can buy with that these days. -- Tim and/or Wendy If you don't think life is interesting, You're not paying attention.
RE: [newbie] aliases for shell?
Items you edit in the /etc directory won't take effect until the next time you reboot your machine. Items edited in a person's home directory, i.e. /home/username/.bash_profile, take effect the next time the person logs on. The stuff in the /etc directory is global and only run once at boot time. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. David Whitlock Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] aliases for shell? OK, well, maybe there's a flaw in how I'm testing this: I edit ~/.bashrc which before I edit it looks like this: # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions alias rm='rm -i' alias mv='mv -i' alias cp='cp -i' So I add the line alias clr='clear' to the end And then exit out of the konsole I'm in. Start up a new Konsole in KDE or flip to a new VT, log in and type clr. Never heard of it, says the shell. (sigh). This has got to be absurdly easy, but I'm just missing something. (oh, and btw, yes, I edit all the files in the /etc dir as root. And if the modification I use doesn't work, I remove it and find a new file to mess with...) Later, david "Without the Law, there is no Liberty. Without Justice, there is no Law." On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, John Aldrich wrote: On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, you wrote: I have edited ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, /etc/bashrc, /etc/profile, and I think some others, all to no avail. Do I just need to use a different shell, or create a config file or what? I know I used to have this set up, I don't remember how in other dists... Here's my ~/.bashrc, and everything there works fine: # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions alias rm='rm -i' alias mv='mv -i' alias cp='cp -i' alias clr='clear' alias cls='clear' alias ls='ls --color' alias sx='startx -- -bpp 16' alias v='ls --color' alias bye='logout' export EDITOR=/usr/bin/joe # Need for a xterm co if we don't make a -ls [ -n $DISPLAY ] { . /etc/profile.d/alias.sh } # Read first /etc/inputrc if the variable is not defined, and after the /etc/inputrc # include the ~/.inputrc [ -z $INPUTRC ] export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi Ok...here's the $64,000 question: HOW did you enter the "test aliases"? Were you "root" when you made the changes? If not, chances are it won't work (except for the personal ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile) Also, did you enter the alias defs EXACTLY as follows: alias command='some_other_command' ??? Please note the SINGLE quotes around "some_other_command." above. John
RE: [newbie] newbie-forced to post this in Win95
I don't know if it will help but maybe try running your third hard drive as the seconday master and the cd as the secondary slave. That works on my system here. I have 3 harddrives, 4G, 8G and 11G respectively. Except for what I need to boot Linux, which resides low on my primary master, the rest resides in various partions on my primary slave. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David P. Greenberg Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] newbie-forced to post this in Win95 AAARGGGHHH!!! I've successfully set up linux several times in several different distros, and actually started using it. I recently added a new HD and a 40x CD-Rom to my system, and in so doing decided to go for fresh installs on both my Win32 and Linux systems. I now have Windows (OS only) on my 500mb primary master(/hda) and Windows programs on /hdb (6.3 gb quantum bigfoot set as primary slave). For my secondary master which would be /hdc I have the new CD-Rom, and I have a 4.3 gb Western Dig as secondary slave or /hdd. For some reason I get one of the following errors when I try to run the Mandrake 6 install. Can't mount /hdc Invalid argument or no media in /hdc or invalid media. at one point I did manage to get it to see the cd and start the install, but when I got to disk druid, It wouldn't see the hard drive. I tried putting my old CD-Rom drive back in, and now it won't work with that either. Please help, as I really want to get my Linux back Thanks in advance David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" **The falcon has heard the falconer**
[newbie] RE:
One thing I can see right off the bat. Use '/', not '\' Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Graham Innocent Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 4:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dear All, I have just bought Mandrake 6.0 and am having trouble getting the included version of partition magic to work properly from windows '98. I can create the Linux native '\' partition and the swapfile parition just fine, but I can't get it to create a '\home' partition. Please help. I don't want to delete all my win '98 data. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] cron error
If you look at slocate.cron in a text editor you will notice that the last '}' is on a line by itself. Go to the last '}' and do a backspace to bring it back up to its proper line. If that doesn't work you'll have to open slocate.cron with the hex editor. If you are using the hex editor, replace the 0A that appears just in front of the '}' with 20 (space). That should resolve the issue for sure. When you are done you should only have the slocate.cron file. If you have a slocate.cron~ file get rid of it. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JK Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] cron error Every time cron runs the below thing is what is sent to the root user. I logged on as root to install a new rpm I downloaded and it said I had mail. I checked mail and 8 messages were based on this error. Any clue how to fix the error? /usr/bin/news.daily: /var/lib/news/.news.daily: Permission denied /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file Thanks in advance John
RE: [newbie] AV Progs?
Trojans are programmed disquised as other programs. The user thinks they are running one thing while underneath the program is doing something else, usually something you'd rather it didn't. They are executables so aren't involved in the boot up. That said, it is not beyond a trojan, when executed, to tamper with your mbr or anything else it wants to. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hendrick Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] AV Progs? Does anyone think it is neccesary to use AV programs for Linux? If a Trojan is installed on my Windows partition, can people still access my PC when I'm using Linux? Or are trojans boot virii so wont run unless I boot win98? -- Best Regards, Paul Hendrick http://www.btinternet.com/~engprin1/linux.htm
RE: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs
I think whether it's called X11amp or xmms is irrelvant as long as the icon connects to it and it runs when asked to so. :) Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 4:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, you wrote: John (Brian too)I don't think that the above is true. My mdk 6.0 installation has an icon in Application Starter/Multimedia named X11Amp.kdelnk which links to an executable called /usr/X11R6/bin/x11amp. Then it's an older version. Go to www.xmms.org and see for yourself it's the SAME site as www.x11amp.org used to be. :-) Trust me on this...I'm on their mailing list. :-) John
RE: [newbie] AV Progs?
Many attempts to compromise a Linux system take over the UID of the person executing the program and gaining the incumbent permissions of that person. Therefore, if you're logged in as root and you get compromised your computer just became their oyster. Security goes beyond just not logging in as root to access the internet. If you are running any servers that listen to the net for activity they can be compromised if someone knows how to exploit them. My policy is only to run servers I absolutely have to and read every exploit bulletin on them so I can attemp to make sure my security is as up to date as possible for the particular service I am running. That is also one of the reasons most servers get their own userID and group, i.e. http usually gets nobody:nobody, ftp gets ftp:ftp, etc. That way, with little privilege themselves, there should be less ability to compromise the overall system. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hendrick Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] AV Progs? snip :) I only use root to install programs or games etc... Why does logging in as root make it easier? I know that this is the case, but how come? -- Best Regards, Paul Hendrick http://www.btinternet.com/~engprin1/linux.htm
RE: [newbie] slocate
I told you you had an extra carriage return in there. I also said to hex edit the file and replace the second to last '0A' (LF) with a '20' (space). I didn't say nuke it. And that was for the slocate.cron only. If you open the file in the hex editor the offending character is just to the left of the last brace (right hand curly bracket). When you're done you should have only one /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron file and the slocate.cron~ one should not exist. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] slocate HeyI had an error with a built-in cron job a few days ago and someone told me I had an extra carriage-return in there, so I nuked it. Now it tells me "unexpected end of file." (below is the EXACT quote...): From root Thu Sep 2 04:02:07 1999 Return-Path: root Received: (from root@localhost) by slave1.chattanooga.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11373 for root; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:02:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:02:03 -0400 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron root@slave1 run-parts /etc/cron.daily X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/bash X-Cron-Env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: MAILTO=root X-Cron-Env: HOME=/ X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron~: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file From root Fri Sep 3 04:02:08 1999 Return-Path: root Received: (from root@localhost) by slave1.chattanooga.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12039 for root; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:02:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:02:04 -0400 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron root@slave1 run-parts /etc/cron.daily X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/bash X-Cron-Env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: MAILTO=root X-Cron-Env: HOME=/ X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron~: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file == Here's the cron job: #!/bin/sh [ -e /usr/bin/updatedb ] { sh /usr/bin/updatedb } || { /usr/bin/slocate -u -e /tmp -e "/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net,/proc" } What's the problem with this??? Why does it say unexpected end of file? Thanks... John
RE: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs
What were the error messages? It might be easier to decipher your problem if we knew them. Also, were you aware that there are two mp3 players that come with the Mandrake distribution. One is x11amp (or something to that effect), which is a WinAmp clone, and another one I can't remember. If you check under the multimedia portion of the tool bar you should find them. That is, if you installed them when you installed Mandrake. :) Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Snyder Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs Hi I tried to load a couple programs last night for MP3 players and extracted the files into another folder before installation. They were supposed to install with the ./configure command and then 'make' and then 'make install'. I saw some action on the screen as if things were proceeding fine under the ./configure and then it got to a point where there was an error about my C++ compiler. Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions? Many thanks in advance. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] NFS Problem
I was one of the one's suggesting to edit your fstab file. I'm not sure if this will answer your problem but I'll list my entries in fstab as they pertain to my dos partions. That might give you some ideas for your own. /dev/hda1 /mnt/drive-cvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/drive-evfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/drive-fvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0 /dev/hda8 /mnt/drive-gvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0 /dev/hda9 /mnt/drive-hvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/drive-dvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0 The first 3 columns are self explanatory at this point I think. I will explain my rationale for what I've entered in the options column and the last two. exec = acknowledges executables (can get you into trouble if the file you are trying to execute is not a Linux executable, using 'noexec' here avoids any problems) dev = allows access to device nodes (can get you into trouble, probably better to have 'nodev' as the option here nosuid= disallows the setting of the set userID and set groupID file mode bits rw= partition is read/write conv=auto = automatic conversion of DOS CR/LF to UNIX LF and vice-versa when transfering text files from one file system to the other. Note: Using 'defaults' in the options sets the following options: rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async To find out more about what options are available to you and what they mean read the man page for mount. Anything you can use with the -o switch in mount can be used here. In regards to your problem with NFS, if you're not sharing the files on this computer with another computer, or sharing files from another computer uninstall NFS. You don't need it to access DOS files that already are contained in other partitions on your machine. It is for sharing files over the network. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Hoeller Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 7:11 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] NFS Problem I recently asked how to access my Win98 partition and was told to edit /etc/fstab. and add something similar to toe following: /dev/hda1/mnt/dosvfatdefaults I did this and after rebooting I could access my Win98 files but when Linux boots I get a msg saying share/config/kdmrc file can't be read or no such file.. and /var/nfs/xtab failed. On shutdown I get a msg saying that NFS mountd Failed. Everything seems to be working OK, I can still access my files in a read only mode and I can't see any other problems. Should I ignore these msg's or correct them? If I correct them how do I go about doing so? Bob
RE: [newbie] Install cannot find filesystems
When you're at the DiskDruid you will need to change the partion types from dos to ext2 filesystem (for your Linux partitions). You can do this within DiskDruid. You may want to change partitions sizes and number at that time. As a minimum you will need about a 64 to 128 Mb swap partition and at least one partion for mounting '/'. Note, your swap partition cannot exceed 128 Mb. There's more to designing an individuals file system than this but a lot is up to individual taste and needs. Check your hardcopy documentation with the MacMillan distribution to see if it gives you an overview of filesystems. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marco Miller (LMC) Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:08 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Install cannot find filesystems Hello all, My "filesystems" cannot be found by the Macmillan Linux-Mandrake 6.0 installation, right after choosing either "Disk druid" or "Fdisk". I don't choose the SCSI option since my hard drive is an EIDE Western Digital UDMA/66 (9.1GB, 7200rpm). I have Windows 98 working well on my primary DOS 4GB partition and I have two more logical empty partitions defined (2GB, 3GB) in my extended DOS partition. I install by booting from the floppy and installing from the CDROM. Any hint that could help me solve my problem? Thanks a lot! Marco Miller.
RE: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available
Thanks for the link Gavin. This clears up the waters that were quickly becoming very, very muddy around here. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gavin Grabias Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available snip Read the new http://www.slashdot.org/ article. They clarify the terms. Its not like most here are speaking of. Regards, Gavin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: [newbie] What's wrong with this???
I don't think I can help with the stray "0:", however, I can help you with the slocate file. Clean it up and it may fix your "0:", seeing as the two processes seem to run one behind the other. The message "line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file" is generated by a stray eof character (0A hex)near the end of /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron. Use a hex editor and go to what should be line 6, you will see two eof characters in very close proximity. Replace the second last one with a space character (20 hex). Get rid of your cron script wakeup.cron and start over. Cron entries are not meant to be installed or edited directly. Read the man page for crontab, that's what you should be using to add anything you want done on a scheduled basis. If you do need to edit use 'crontab -e'. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] What's wrong with this??? snip /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file /etc/cron.daily/wakeup.cron: 0: command not found /etc/cron.daily/wakeup.cron~: 0: command not found Below is the cron job itself: # Cron script to (hopefully) play an MP3 file to wake me up in the mornings # at 6:00 AM Monday through Friday # 0 6 * * 1-5 /usr/bin/mpg123 "/home/john/taco-puttin_on_the_ritz.mp3" Ok...my question is as follows: What the heck is the problem? I do NOT have the "0:" in there (I *used* to, but I removed it yesterday.) Where did the system get that "0:"??? Do I need to reboot in order to get changes to "take"??? Thanks...
RE: [newbie] Im listening on some wierd tcp ports..
In some client/server relationships where they only run on one specific machine the server opens a port internally for the client to connect to. This does not necessarily mean these ports are accessible from outside I don't think. One has to remember that the client/server relationship is not exclusive to programs that use networks or the internet to communicate. Maybe someone else has another spin on this or, if Gnome is the *cuplprit*, there may be something in the Gnome documentation. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Fisher Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Im listening on some wierd tcp ports.. Okay, wierd, they are in use by GNOME's panel and other panel applets... why do they listen on a port that accepts connections from anything? and why do they need to listen at all.. hmm i guess its like remotely configureable or something maybe. Somebody know? Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: lsof -i On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Justin Fisher wrote: a piece of `netstat -a` tcp0 0 *:3446 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:3384 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:3380 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:3379 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:3378 *:* LISTEN tcp0 0 *:3377 *:* LISTEN Whats on those??? Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] Opening Windows Files
Run the linux fdisk command on each of your harddrives, i.e. 'fdisk /dev/hda', 'fdisk /dev/hdb', etc. Don't use a partition number with the command. You will get a menu asking what you want to do next. Use the 'l' menu item to get a list of each partition and it's type on each of the disks. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Opening Windows Files On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, you wrote: # mount -t umsdos /dev/[whatever-drive-and-partition-for-dos] /mnt/[whatever-directory-you-want-the-dos-partition-mounted-at] (all on one line). Negative, umsdos requires utilitys and preperation beyond just a mount command. groupadd vfat edit the fstab everyline that has vfat in it replace "defaults" with "defaults,g=vfat,umask=002" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon OK - I tried the responses that I received to my question about mounting the fat partition. In the console, as root, I typed groupadd vfat. Then I went to my /etc/fstab file to edit the vfat lines in it except there was no mention of vfat anywhere in the file. I believe that my fat partition is hda1, but I'm not sure. That's the way it's setup in the partition tables anyway. So now my question is 1. How do I determine what the partition table looks like in Linux, I assume that my fat partition is hda1, but I'm not entirely certain. I should be able to make it work with this information. I tried several different variations on the mount command and not one of them worked, so I must be specifying the wrong partition. Thanks, Ken
RE: [newbie] Opening Windows Files
If you know what partitions they're on just add the following to your /etc/fstab file. This will mount those partitions every time you boot up Linux. /dev/hda2 /mydocs vfat rw,user,conv=auto 0 0 Substitute you proper partition number for the /hda2 as shown above. Use a mount name of your choice in place of /mydocs. The options shown here, in order, are readable/writeable, user mountable (don' need to be root to mount) and automatic conversion of the DOS cr/lf to unix eol when moving text files back and forth between the two file systems. I don't know if there's a man page on fstab, I haven't looked. Check if there is. If so, it will give you a lot more information about the different filesystem types and the various options. You may want to check into the options that prevent people from trying to run executables on these partitions. Caveats: - use vfat over msdos, vfat allows the use of long filenames while msdos constrains you to the usual 8.3 - separate the different sections with tabs rather than spaces. I'm not sure it's necessarily critical with fstab but some Linux config files/tables show a definite preference for tabs Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Opening Windows Files Can someone please explain how to mount the fat partition from Linux so that I can access all of those office files while running Linux. Or do I just need to copy them to disk and open them in SO? Thanks
RE: [newbie] Opening Windows Files
Try the command this way mount -t vfat /dev/hdax /mnt/dos (rw,user) The user option may make it available to a user. I won't bet on it though as I'd be suspcious about losing the setting if you logged out as root and logged back in as user. My own preference would be to put the necessary instructions in /etc/fstab so that this is taken care of automatically by mounting it for you on bootup or at least making it user mountable if not pre-mounted. You may also want to consider adding the option 'conv=auto' in case you're dealing with plain text files. The way DOS and Unix handle the end of a line are signifigantly different to cause you a headache if you don't have the appropriate changes made when moving the file from MSDOS to Linux or vice versa. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Schussman Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Opening Windows Files mount -t vfat /dev/hdax /mnt/dos (replace hdax with the device where your DOS partition is.) It works fine for me, with one exception: the directory to which I mount my windows partition is only writeable by root, even if I chmod it after I mount the partition. Has anybody experienced that? -Alan
RE: [newbie] tar and gunzip troubles
Try doing it from a console, not the file manager window. tar xvfz filename.gz or, if you've already unzipped it tar xvf filename.gz Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] tar and gunzip troubles Well I tried doing all those things, and it still wont work. I just get a gear looking icon where the gunzip file was. And if i try to un-tar that, i dont get anything. It says its not a supported file type, or something to that extent. I dont know what to do! thank you jerrud
RE: [newbie] updates icon
I think the Mandrake Updates is a separate rpm. Make sure you have it installed on your system. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Linnertz Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] updates icon Subject: updates icon Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:20:04 -0500 From: Todd Linnertz [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I click the updates button on the KDE desktop I get an error: Could not execute program MandrakeUpdate. What is this suppose to do and how do I get it to work? Thanks, Todd Linnertz
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems
Who cares what a coward uses. If you believe so strongly in your statements, next time sign your name. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems I had to stop using the Mandrake distribution all together, it was just too much trouble to bother with. I now use the *OFFICAL* RedHat ditribution, and I've had absolutely no problems.
[newbie] Just a bit of Professionalism
Soapbox Mode On I realize many of us are switching to Linux due to what we percieve as shortcoming of other operating systems, Windows in particular it seems. Even though we all have our pieves with Microsoft for whatever reason does it really add any credibility to what we have to say if we can only refer to the aformentioned company in a slanderous way, i.e. Windoze. I put this to you, would you be happy campers if someone kept referring to your favourite distribution of Linux as Manduck? I am currently working in both worlds, Windows and Linux. I have tried two flavours of Linux, RedHat 5.2 and now Mandrake 6.0 I have lived with various operating systems from MS-DOS 3.3, through Windows 3.1 to Windows 95. If you want a real slug of an operating system try a Radio Shack Color Computer II running OS9. They all had one thing in common, they were operating systems for a computer and all had their strong points and weak points in their given venue. Whether we like Bill Gates and his strong arm marketing tactics and/or the fact that some of his programmers couldn't program a toaster with with both hands and a library of manuals is irrelevant. It was through his effort and those at IBM that we had the explosion of computers available for home and business desktops. I work in both worlds right now because I am in the process of studying to be a professional in the IT business. I find both sytems provide me with two ways of looking at a problem. And, the reality is, when I go out to work as a consultant, programmer or whatever I realize that market constraints and position will probably dictate that I will have to be competent with Microsoft and the various flavours of unices. My apologies to those who understand that you can hang on to your beliefs without belittling the efforts of the other guy. This wasn't meant for you. Soapbox Mode Off Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')
RE: [newbie] strange messages
The listserver might have hiccupped. I got them too, although I also saw my original e-mails come through in the normal list traffic. I don't think it's anything for the list users to worry about. The people at Mandrake may or may not be concerned however. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manny Styles Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:44 PM To: Newbie Mandrake Subject: [newbie] strange messages I'm not sure if this is just me, but as of today, I have been getting messages returned to me that appear to be going to the mailing list. I resent my messages just in case (so if you have seen my messages twice, forgive me). The subject line is "Messgae not deliverable", and it is from Administrator at ISC7 ... CC'ed to administrator(IEC2). Is anyone else having this problem? Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
RE: [newbie] Linux and windows98
Back up what is already on the partition, split the partition up, restore the windows stuff back on the partition you set up for it. Some people swear by Partition Magic, it allegedly can resize your partitions non-destructively. You may want to look into it. I know a limited version of it came with either McMillan's or the official Mandrake distribution. Caveat: Make sure the version of Partition Magic you use is as current as you can get. And do the back up before you do any re-partition just for insurance. I used an earlier version on a 13 gig hard drive and it choked, something about DOS or the BIOS not being able to handle a drive over 8 gig or something. To say the least, everything on the drive was trashed. The backup saved the day. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brett Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux and windows98 Hello: I just bought a Compaq PC with a 13 Gb hard drive and pre-installed win98. Currently, the hard drive is set up with a 2 Gb partition and an 11 Gb partition (both win98). I would like to take part of the 11Gb partition (say 7 Gb) and set it aside for Mandrake Linux 6.0. How would I go about doing this without destroying what already exists on the hard drive? Thanks. -TB
RE: [newbie] Uninstalling PAM
I don't understand your aversion to PAM and won't try to guess. Before you uninstall PAM maybe read up on it's purpose. The following two URLs has a very good information on PAM. http://temp.redhat.com/linux-info/pam/index.html http://temp.redhat.com/linux-info/pam/why_not_pam.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Fisher Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Uninstalling PAM how do i uninstall the PAM package the best way? anyone ever tried to do this? Anyone a really big fan of pam... i personally think its a huge waste and i dont like it at all.
RE: [newbie] rpms for gcc?
Can you be specific with some of the error messages you are getting when you try to compile? This would give us a better idea of what may be missing. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] rpms for gcc? what rpms do i need to install to get gcc to work? i have several installed but i cant get it to work right. any info or tips? :P
RE: [newbie] Lilo
I fail to see why it won't as long as Lilo remains the first thing your system sees as soon as the BIOS is finished its magic. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil P. Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo If at installation I didn't put lilo in the MBR can I still have it default to DOS if I change the lilo.conf to be the dos partition first and I rerun lilo?? let me know thanks neil thanks neil - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:24 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Lilo To re-run lilo you run '/sbin/lilo' at the command prompt as root. And yes, it does matter if you put Lilo in the mbr. Having Lilo in the mbr allows you to run a multiple boot system. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil P. Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo I don't know what it means to rerun lilo after editing? Explain. Also, does it matter whether or not I put lilo in my MBR or not during installation of linux 6.0? because I didn't do that. I put it on my linux hard drive instead of the dos hard drive (my MBR). -out neil - Original Message - From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Neil P. wrote: wait I don't understand. I moved the Dos label above the linux and it still didn't work. I don't have a line that says default=linux or default=dos am I suppossed to add that somewhere? Do I put that line right above the label=dos line? let me know thanks for the help -out neil From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Neil P. wrote: How do you change the lilo bootup to automatically startup the DOS paritition by default instead of linux? what file do i edit and what do i edit it to? Opps, hit send and forgot to mention. You will need to rerun lilo after the edit "You will need to rerun lilo after the edit" you did this? The very top line, of your lilo.conf says something like? default=dos -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] Does Linux use the Bios for Harddrives?
That's actually a good question. My thought would be that as the partitions are all formatted you shouldn't need to re-format any of them, including /. The problem would be that anything in the upgrade that belongs in those partitions will overwrite anything it has to at will anyway. For stuff I've downloaded and added myself I usually try to make sure it goes into /usr/local which I have on a separate partition. I also have a partition called /misc1 which I have subdivided with various directories and I put source files and things like that on there. It keeps them safe from re-installs and upgrades while making backup strategy easier to figure out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joel VanderWerf Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 12:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Does Linux use the Bios for Harddrives? Matt Stegman wrote: ... The only reason you'd want to separate out /home is a) if your root partition becomes corrupted, you can still preserve your personal files and b) if you need to upgrade, you don't lose everything when you format the root partition. Something I've been wondering about: Let's say you have /, /usr, and /home partitions and you decide to upgrade. When you do the CD install, you say "No, please don't format /usr and /home, but go ahead and format /", right? You don't want to lose all those apps you've carefully downloaded. But what about the files from the CD that go to /usr, such as all the X11 stuff? Will the installer replace the old files in /usr with the new ones? Or will it put them in the /usr directory in the same partition as /? -- Joel VanderWerf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Mandrake vs. Macmillan
A full Mandrake release will cost you between $40 and $60 more dollars but you will also get the Power Pack CD's which don't come with McMillan's release. And I will agree heartily with you, the Mandrake Manual, as you call it, is just a very basic setup guide. To get anything of value to help you grow with the McMillan release you have to access the three on-line books on the third CD. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toby Sheets Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 2:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Mandrake vs. Macmillan About a week back I mentioned that I was dissatisfied with the Mandrake manual. Well, it turns out I have a Macmillan Mandrake release. Does this mean I don't have the real Mandrake manuals? Also, oddly enough (and disappointing) I can't register my Mandrake Linux with Mandrake - I have to reg with Macmillan. Should I return this package and go with a true Mandrake release for the setup support? Toby
RE: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]
I guess it is possible. Another reason to add to my arsenal of excuses to continue migrating all my work at home from Windows to Linux. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Scottaline Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future] Anyone catch this story?? Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no?? about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/ Mike ;o) Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
RE: [newbie] Getting rid of PAM
Why would you want to uninstall PAM? As I understand it PAM is necessary for password authentication on a Linux system. I may be wrong on this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Fisher Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 12:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Getting rid of PAM is there any good way to uninstall PAM from mandrake 6.0? Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] no such device!
I'm not with Rogers but on home through Shaw. We got 3Com cards when we were set up. I can't remember the exact model at the moment. Anyway, to make a long story short. If you're not afraid to open your computer up take a good look at the nic and get the brand name, any model names, and any model numbers on the major chips on it. This should help you to identify the card. I'd help you with configuring it but I haven't had to so I don't know enough to point you in the right direction there. When I installed Mandrake the detection of the card went flawlessly and all I had to tell it to do was use dhcp to obtain this system's ip address. I think you will have to use 'netcfg' from root to set things up. There may be a man page on it you can refer to. It may also be in one of the many how-to documents. Take a look through /usr/doc to see what you can find. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 10:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] no such device! Heres my problem: I have filled out all the information about connecting to the internet via an ethernet card for the @home network. I have a 16 bit Ethernet Card. When I finished filling out all the information the konsole displayed the message" unknown interface: no such device delaying eth0 intilization" If anyone has any ideas of how I can correct this and/or if you know what type of 16 bit ethernet cards were handed out by Rogers about 2 years ago that would be great. Struggling newbie Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere
Flame thrower locked and loaded. hehehe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Fry Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system! It's totally FUCKING USELESS Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad losers are just wasting your lives. -- -- Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
RE: [newbie] Red Hat Security Notices
I am not an expert but my initial thoughts would be that you might want to get the source files rather than the RPM's. My line on this one is that the RedHat RPM is compiled for the i386. I am assumming that there would be something in the configuration setup of the source for compiling it with i586 optimizations, thereby keeping it in line with the current philosophy of an operating system optimized for the i586. Just my thoughts. I welcome any corrections to this thinking anyone more knowledgeable might add to this. Also, one might want to check the Mandrake update list to see if this has possibly been handled and is available as an i586 RPM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Gellatly Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Red Hat Security Notices Question: Can or should Mandrake 6.0 users install security patches from Red Hat, such as the one that was released this morning? The notice follows: Red Hat, Inc. Security Advisory Package in.telnetd Synopsis Denial of service attack in in.telnetd Advisory ID RHSA-1999:029-01 Issue Date 1999-08-19 Updated on Keywords telnet telnetd 1. Topic: A denial of service attack has been fixed in in.telnetd. 2. Bug IDs fixed: 4560 3. Relevant releases/architectures: Red Hat Linux 6.0, all architectures 4. Obsoleted by: None 5. Conflicts with: None 6. RPMs required: Intel: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/i386/ telnet-0.10-29.i386.rpm Alpha: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/alpha telnet-0.10-29.alpha.rpm SPARC: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/sparc telnet-0.10-29.sparc.rpm Source: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/SRPMS telnet-0.10-29.src.rpm Architecture neutral: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/noarch/ 7. Problem description: in.telnetd attempts to negotiate a compatible terminal type between the local and remote host. By setting the TERM environment variable before connecting, a remote user could cause the system telnetd to open files it should not. Depending on the TERM setting used, this could lead to denial of service attacks. Thanks go to Michal Zalewski and the Linux Security Audit team for noting this vulnerability. 8. Solution: For each RPM for your particular architecture, run: rpm -Uvh where filename is the name of the RPM. 9. Verification: MD5 sum Package Name - 4360d47490f13d60b8737d28dc88825a i386/telnet-0.10-29.i386.rpm 90213fcdca41a3ed12ab7d92344e7286 alpha/telnet-0.10-29.alpha.rpm 277787dbc39dff8ea84d4b16dcb7a954 sparc/telnet-0.10-29.sparc.rpm 269783a0754d234f7bef0f4717a8dbc2 SRPMS/telnet-0.10-29.src.rpm These packages are also PGP signed by Red Hat Inc. for security. Our key is available at: http://www.redhat.com/corp/contact.html You can verify each package with the following command: rpm --checksig filename If you only wish to verify that each package has not been corrupted or tampered with, examine only the md5sum with the following command: rpm --checksig --nopgp filename 10. References: Erik Gellatly Salem, Oregon
RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
I'm actually using Outlook98 as my mail reader so the comment about /dev/null was actually more tongue-in-cheek. It comes with a configurable junk mail filter. Now, to answer your question. There is an anti-spam filter, I believe it is called clean, available on your Mandrake distribution. I don't think it works with sendmail but is designed to work with one of the other mail servers available on the distribution, which is probably a good thing because my understanding is that sendmail is, excuse the expression, a bitch to configure. I know it's becoming a little cliche but check through the Linux docs, or, if we are lucky, maybe one of the more enlightened souls can clue us in on the use of this tool. BTW, for those who don't know /dev/null actually exists. It is a kind of cyber black hole you can actually direct output to when you don't want to see it, i.e. a program may create output that you don't really need so you just redirect it to /dev/null so it doesn't bother you. i.e. [user somedirectory] # thisprogramprintsjunk /dev/null -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL! Do you put this in /etc/hosts.deny? Thanks, Bryan "Ken Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/20/99 12:19:24 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings) Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL! Not a problem. I flamed him at his hotmail account instead of here and then promptly added *@hotmail.com to my list of junk senders that automatically go to /dev/null. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Kay Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 8:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL! This guy is trolling you all. (for the newbies a troll is someone who instigates flamewars by using inflammatory language) Please don't pander to his wishes by responding. (Ithought I sniffed a troll the other day ; ) ttfn nick
RE: [newbie] one more newbie question.
Give the distribution that comes with the book a try. If you find you like Linux then look at getting a newer version. The advantage of the newer versions is that a lot of the setup has been simplified and the usual bug fixes are in place. You might want to aim your book purchase at one that has a distribution that is relatively current, RedHat 5.1, or the latest Caldera. Another option is buying a distribution of Mandrake that McMillan Publishing puts out. It comes with a CD with 3 on-line books. The rub here though is that you either have to be running windows and use Adobe Acrobat to read them or get your Linux up and running and then install Acrobat from the CD. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Schofield Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] one more newbie question. I have a question. If I get a book with a CD rom in.. say 1.3 of Open linux or 5.0 or 5.1 of Redhat. Is it not worth my while to get that up and running at all?? If all I am using the machine for it personal use .. internet etc.. with these distros work fine for what a personal user needs?? So is the upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2 like win 95 to 98.. they both work.. just one will work better?? or does 2.0 have problems that I will find?? James
RE: [newbie] REAL Linux Question!!
Make it a shell script by burying it in a file called 'othernet.sh', or any name of your choice. The text you want to type into the file goes like this #!/bin/sh telnet other.net.com Store the file in /usr/local/bin and then cd to /usr/local/bin and type 'chmod 766 othernet.sh' Now I'm not so sure about linking it to the desktop. If it works ala Windows use the visual file manager to go to /usr/local/bin. From there you should be able to drag the file to the desktop. This doesn't take care of your kppp problem though. That I'm unfamiliar with because I'm on cable and haven't had to look at that aspect of Linux. I would also look at the hidden directories and files while I'm in the visual file manager. There may be a way of dragging the link that loads ktelnet to the desktop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of hevnsnt Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] REAL Linux Question!! My girlfriend has been b*tching at me to put windows back on my machine because she cant figure out how to connect to the internet (no matter how many times I show her) I am wondering if there is a way to make an icon in KDE to: 1) Start the Kppp Dialer 2) telnet to another specified machine Or Make Kppp start whenever outside traffic is requested. Now, I cant even figure out how to make an Icon to open a terminal window and pass the command "telnet other.machine.com" Can anyone help me? P.S. I am not willing to get another girlfriend, I like the one I got. =) -Bill
RE: [[newbie] Linux for home consumers?]
You are really aiming at the wrong target here. Consider two very major things here. 1) These programmers produce these wonderful drivers we do have with no thought of compensation for their time and effort. 2) You can't program a driver for a piece of hardware if the hardware manufacturer claims proprietary interests and won't release the necessary information to make it possible to program for the hardware. I might suggest easing up a little here. For what we pay for Linux, I personally bought the McMillan distribution of Mandrake, we receive a value far greater in the view of support and usability than we would from the makers of the various commercial operating systems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Fry Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 4:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] Linux for home consumers?] What does it take to write a video card driver that some hotshot unix guru programmer can't come up with? If they can talk the talk, how about trying to walk the walk? I keep hearing about what geniuses inhabit the Unix crowd, how about putting up or shutting up?
RE: [newbie] Dummies Books Rock
I have to agree with you. It's the only thing that got me through the Cobol section of a programming languages survey course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Taking the plunge.. Dummies books rock! I love the irreverent tone they use. :)
RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]
As root run the command /sbin/lilo. This causes lilo to re-write the lilo configuration to the mbr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph Gardner Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:14 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q] What does one mean rerun lilo (I know RTFM, but I don't have my books with me 8-)) Regards, Joseph Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Company Cleveland, OH -Original Message- From: Michael Scottaline [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, here goes. After I installed Win98 B, (i had to do it, it was for work) I lost LILO. Now, i am forced to Windoze. And get this: in 15 min of use, i crashed 3 times! One time was just because i maxemized a window! At any rate, how do i get LILO back so i can enjoy my computer once more? thanks jerrud ICQ# 13978481 = Windows loves to totally trash the old mbr when it installs. That's why it is always recommended to install windows first. For now, boot with a boot or rescue disk. When you get into linux, rerun lilo from a command line. That should fix things, I believe. :-) Mike winmail.dat
RE: [newbie] Re-installed Win98 - Lost LILO -- How to re-install????
If you made a boot disk for Linux per the installation instructions use it to boot Linux and then run lilo to reinstall your loader on the mbr. If you didn't make a boot disk then I'm afraid you'll have to re-install, unless someone is aware of some other way of getting around this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael P. Wheat Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Re-installed Win98 - Lost LILO -- How to re-install Yes, I did re-install Win98 --- use it for games ;-) I guess when you install Win98 is automatically overwrites the MBR (sure would be nice if it would at least ask permission). I would like to get LILO back so I can get back to my Linux install. ... I really don't want to have to re-install to get back to Unix... I do that enough with Windows ;-)
RE: [newbie] Linux drive disappeared!
Windows will not recognize your Linux partitions. Also, your drive designation in Windows is not arbitrary. If you remove a drive it once had by partitioning it for another file system it will just redesignate the drives that are left, keeping them in alphabetic sequence. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of brandon Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 6:17 PM To: mandrake-linux support Subject: [newbie] Linux drive disappeared! I am running Linux and Windows 98 on the same computer but on different hard drives. After setting aside a 2.1 Gb drive ( drive D:\ ) for the Linux OS, I installed Linux successfully. But when I go into windows, it seems to not recognize the drive where I am storing the Linux OS. What was drive E now becomes drive D. And now, when I open My Computer, both the E: drive and F: drives have the cd-rom icon. Originally, my F: drive is my CD-ROM drive. How do I make Windows recognize the Linux drive? Or is there another way to solve this problem?? thanks, Brandon