RE: [newbie] unsubscribe

1999-12-31 Thread Ken Wilson

These people are probably not as 'switched' on as you state.  They
bought into Linux chique and now find themselves in over their heads.

-Original Message-
From: Des Wass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 31, 1999 12:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] unsubscribe


This is purely just a passing thoughtbut maybe list listserver could
do
with a tag line pointing people to the website to unsibscribe or
explaining how
to unsubscribe.

While some complain it too hard to unsubscribe and that they don't have
time, I
find it frustrating to be deleting mail from people who are obviously
switched on enough to try learning this wonderful OS, yet don't give a
rats
about how simple a mailing list works.

Maybe something like:

###
To unsubscribe: Please go to
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3
###

Just my 2c worth.


(There's a typo on the header for Developer's BTW, if anyone is
listening...)



On 31/12/99, Singer XJ Wang said:
 Because you are a DUMB retard who subscriibed and does not know how to
 UNSCRIBE. go to mandrake web page and READ THE FUCKING MANUAL
 -Original Message-
 From: neilrathbone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 7:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] unsubscribe
 
 
 UNSUBSCRIBE Please!!
 
 
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RE: [newbie] RE: Source Code

1999-12-25 Thread Ken Wilson

I am going to hazard a couple of guesses here.  One is it is more than
likely written in C.  The second is that the files you want to view
follow the standard Unix convention for text files and have only a
single linefeed/carriage return (can never remember exactly which one it
is, might even be an EOL) and not the carriage return/linefeed
combination used in a windows world.

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Ricki Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 25, 1999 10:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] RE: Source Code


I tried to take a look at the source code for Mandrake using the source
code cd.
I was unsuccessful, I tried to open it in Borland C++ but could not find
any files that would display anything.
Could someone please tell me how I can see the source code and which
language it is written in.
Thanks and Season's Greetings
Jennifer Wise
ICQ:6765592




RE: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!

1999-12-21 Thread Ken Wilson

Try using the DOS fdisk command.  'fdisk mbr' should get rid of Lilo on
your master boot record.  After that just install Windows on the drive
you want and then re-install your Linux and run Lilo again.

-Original Message-
From: Tyler Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 21, 1999 6:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!

snip

Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem
impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux?  I feel that
uninstalling is as important as installing.

snip




RE: [newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!!

1999-12-21 Thread Ken Wilson

Beauty, now we're getting spammed in Spanish.

-Original Message-
From: Moises Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 21, 1999 7:13 AM
To: Moises Lopez
Subject: [newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!!


 Buenas tardes, os informo que tenemos en Stock  DVD'S de Panasonic a
 muy buen precio:
   DVD-PANASONIC
   P.V.D.  12.900,- ptas.
 DVD  DE  PANASONIC  6X32X  SIN  TARJETA  DESCOMPRESORA

 Catalogo DVD.doc




RE: [newbie] Sound Setup

1999-12-19 Thread Ken Wilson

First off, because someone is going to tell you anyway, turn off the
html.  It is considered poor netiquette.

Secondly, it's not '(VERIFY N)', it's '(VERIFYLD N)' that goes in the
file.
-Original Message-
From: Jamey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 18, 1999 10:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Sound Setup


Excuse me for asking for so much help! I just purchased linux about 2
days ago, and I think I'm doing fair for a first timer. Anyway my
problem is: First of all I had a SB Live value card but i found out that
linux did not support it, So I took it out and enable my onboard sound
chip. Linux found it (By the way I have L-Mandrake 6.5) But when it
probed it it came up with an error telling me to add (VERIFY N) into the
sndconfg file. So I did and tryed again but this time when it probes the
card it completely looks up so bad the only way out is RESET! Im
wondering how I can edit it manually, Ive got all the info from windows
( Dual boot) . Or should i just purchase another sound card?




RE: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can DoIt -gpav

1999-12-18 Thread Ken Wilson

Report it through www.spamcop.net

I did.  Maybe if the host gets enough spam notices they'll do something
about it.

-Original Message-
From: Toyswins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 18, 1999 2:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Want To Lose Weight For The Holidays-New Pill Can
DoIt -gpav


Telephone solicitors have found you again John!!

So true, but just delete this one, I did.  Pisses you off though huh?
Me
too.  Maybe the folks sponsoring this mail list can fix it

B. B.




RE: [newbie] make?

1999-12-17 Thread Ken Wilson

It appears you may not have some of the development tools installed, of
which 'make' is one.  Ensure you have all the necessary ones installed,
check the file list for the packages you don't have installed to see if
any of them included 'make'.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Kersenbrock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 17, 1999 4:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] make?


Here are the instructions from the README:
---
Become root, open a terminal window, and enter the following:

perl Makefile.PL
make
make test
make install
---

Step 1 works. "perl Makefile.PL" makes a "Makefile".

But Step 2 is "make".  This is the instruction that doesn't work.  Out
of
curiosity, I also tried "Makefile", but it does also nothing.

Jeremy




Re: [newbie] The FREE In Linux

1999-12-12 Thread ken . wilson

Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
 
 On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, root wrote:
 
 What does it says it's trying to download, as it's obviously not locked

This may not be a unique problem.  I have a fairly stable and fast cable
modem connection.  I have tried connecting to a local mirror (right here
in town) and the install always hangs after about 48 files.  I gave up
after about the 10th try.

I'm using the ftp image supplied by the mirror.  I would assume it's the
same one on all the mirrors.



RE:Attn: byte-runner [newbie] Desktop Icons

1999-12-08 Thread Ken Wilson

Why did your e-mail ask for a read receipt?  Are you building a mail
list or something?

-Original Message-
From: Ralph | byte-runner | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 8, 1999 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Desktop Icons


did you try deleting them :-)

byte
- Original Message -
From: "Lars Nordin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 12:43 PM
Subject: [newbie] Desktop Icons


 Greetings,

 I was wondering how I could cut down on the number of icons on my
desktop.
 I tried moving them to a folder on my desktop but the next time I
logged
in all
 those icons were regenerated so that I have a set on the desktop and
and
set in
 my folder.
 How can keep those icons from reappearing on my desktop?

  --
 Lars Nordin
 Noble Systems Corporation





RE: [newbie] Linux fragmentation?

1999-12-05 Thread Ken Wilson

As long as there is an opportunity to commercially exploit Linux we will
have those who will attempt to taint it in their own fashion, making
their clientele dependant upon using only their version.  This is a fact
of life.  It is a price you will pay for the operating system to become
more and more Windows like in order to push it on to more desktops.  And
we support this by demanding all the same features Windows gave us, GUI
interfaces, graphical web browsers, graphical anything.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-

snip

Umm. . .well if its really that big a deal there are always tar.gz arcs
ya kno.
 Ive actually taken to using them over rpms just cuz i find them
simpler.
Granted i give up things like package tracking and easy uninstalling,
but on
the upside, i know where everything is. . .and i dont have to worry so
much
about dependencies. . .

I think a bigger issue right now as far as linux fragmentation is the
intro of
ext3. . .is redhat the ms of linux?

snip




RE: [newbie] MSIE when?

1999-11-23 Thread Ken Wilson

There will never be an MS IE for Linux.  Find out what whoever is
telling you that is smoking.  I want some.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donny
Sent: November 23, 1999 11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] MSIE when?


Hay, wasnt MSIE supossed to be out in november for linux?

Thats wat i heard.



RE: [newbie] Definitely Off Topic

1999-11-23 Thread Ken Wilson

I'm afraid I have to side with the IT guys/company owners.  You're there
to work, not chat.  It's my machinery so to speak, if you want to chat
go to a cybercafe for lunch.  Too many issues about proper use of
company time and equipment let alone the number of denizens looking for
somebody to dns and then try to hack the system later, not to mention
potential DOS attacks.

Want to take those risks, my reply would be do it with your own system,
not mine.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Philp
Sent: November 23, 1999 3:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Definitely Off Topic


John Aldrich wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Hi!
  I know this is off topic, but I noticed that a lot of you guys are
  Network Admins or similar..
 
  I was just wondering if the following Saga is common practice by you
  guys...
  We have just been connected in the past month to the Internet at
work
  and the following is the Lowdown of the past 2 days here.
  BTW, my work machine is a Windoze98 one :-(
 
 Install Mandrake on your work machine and tell him to stuff
 it! :-) He can't block you THEN! :-) (course he COULD just
 format and reinstall Windoze after you leave... G)

For our company, that would be considered destruction of company
property and would be a terminable offense.

--
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: [newbie] Apache/public_html

1999-11-22 Thread Ken Wilson

Are the permissions for the directories you want people to be able to
access world readable?  This is necessary otherwise only the owner of
the parent directory will be able to see anything in it.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pete Clapham
Sent: November 22, 1999 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Apache/public_html


Hi, all --

I am the one who needed to allow users to ftp various web documents to
their home directories and then have them visible on
the web.  Several of you answered me that one should put these web
documents into the public_html directory and to be sure
that the UserDir public_html statement existed in the httpd.conf file.

Well, I did this.  Users have public_html directories on their home
directories, and these directories have html stuff in them.
But when I try to go to the directory, I get the "Forbidden" message.
Clearly the directory exists, and there is html there.  But I
can't see it.

I suspect that there is some configuration step that needs to be done in
order to tell the browser that the "public_html"
directory is, in fact, public.  Can anybody advise me what it is?

Thanks.

Cheers,
pete

Pete Clapham
Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences
Cleveland State University
Cleveland, Ohio, 44115

Phone: [216] 697-4820
Fax: [216] 523-7175
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RE: [newbie] Books

1999-11-12 Thread Ken Wilson

Have to disagree with you here.  'Using Linux' by Bill Ball has to be
one of the most incomplete books I have read.  It ranks right up there
with any of the Sams learn anything in 24hrs/days books.

I think one would be far better off to purchase a book like O'Reilly's
'Running Linux' 3rd Edition.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Sher
Sent: November 12, 1999 5:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Books


Dear Jeff:

Get "Using Linux" by Bill Ball. In my opinion, tt's one of the best
all-around introduction to Linux. And reasonably priced ($30)

Benjamin
--
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Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net



RE: [newbie] Good Newsgroup Reader?

1999-11-12 Thread Ken Wilson

I beg to differ.  The newsreader in Netscape handles all the attachments
and embedded docs I ever run into on usenet.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chip Rose.
Sent: November 12, 1999 4:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Good Newsgroup Reader?

Linux has nothing that even remotely matches Agent/Free Agent, or the
other Windows newsreaders, *PARTICULARLY* in regard to handling binary
files (pics, mp3's).  Agent just downloads them and automatically and
quickly opens the file in Winamp or in an photo/image viewer like
VuePro.  In Linux you've got to download the file and then start another
helper application to open the file separately - kind of like going out
in the winter cold to crank-start your car and then opening the hood to
manually start it again at every traffic light/stop sign, and then once
you're finished driving it.

A killer-app is one that you'd be willing to change OS's for - the
Agent/Vuepro combination is a killer app in my opinion.

I always use SLRN for news - it is very fast and fairly efficient for
TEXT, but it won't handle binaries hardly at all - at least not without
the tedious manual downloading, saving to a directory and then
re-opening with another application like Winamp or XV photo viewer
etc..  I LOVE Linux, but it's a definite "non-player" in the Usenet
world..  I'd certainly go ahead and purchase a commercial app for Linux
if there were one that was anywhere near the efficiency/ability of
Agent.



RE: [newbie] Time settings !

1999-10-31 Thread Ken Wilson

This all seems well and good but I seem to have another problem.  The
time setting is correct but it continually shows the wrong time zone.
It is showing MST and it should be PST.  How do I change the time zone.
I have tried various permutations of including the 'PST' string inside
my command to date to change the time but the best it does is keep the
MST and set the clock one hour later than the time I input.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David M. Kufta
Sent: October 31, 1999 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Time settings !


Good Morning newbie-list,
 Just as a reminder, in order to display the correct time on your linux
system, if the cmd: date shows you the correct time you can simply run
the cmd: clock -w to correctly set your hardware clock.

The above would only occur if your system was left up and running during
the time change.
if date displayed is not correct follow the below instruction to
correctly set it.
  Should it be necessary you can use the date command to
correctly set you date and time.
example: date 10310930
This will produce Sun Oct 31 09:30:00 EST 1999
when you use the cmd: date if this time is now correct simply use the
cmd:
clock -w to set you hardware clock

 Alternative to this is to reboot the system enter cmos setup and  set
the correct time in cmos.

Simply a reminder,
Dave

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while (memory_available){
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if (feel_like_it)
make_user_THINK (this_is_an_OS);
gates_bank_balance++;
}

My Current Dynamic IP Address Is http://216.155.33.12
To program is to be.



RE: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh?

1999-10-28 Thread Ken Wilson

I think the ksh shell should be available to you if you installed it.
And there is always the bash shell (Bourne Again) which seems to be the
defacto standard in Linux.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Norris
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] What is the closest Linux shell to Unix Ksh?


I'd like to refresh my Unix scripting knowledge, but I have no access to
pure Unix boxes now, so I need to practise on my own linux machine.
Which
shell should I use to get the best response from Korn shell scripts?




RE: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Ken Wilson

Dear Folks,

Regarding Fortify.  I have the 128-bit encrypted Netscape.  The version
that requires you to swear you are a Canadian or American citizen to
download.

The bottom line is I tested it on Fortify's site.  They said the
encryption is military weapons grade and I don't need their product.
BTW, this applies to both my Windows and my Linux versions of Netscape.
So I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')



RE: [newbie] Where is my message ????

1999-10-24 Thread Ken Wilson

Some mailer readers may not be handling attachments well so it may be
better, seeing as you attachment is small and not really in need of
being an attachment, to just put it in the body of your message.

Secondly, Composer in Netscape running under Linux is broken, this is
well documented in the archives of this maillist on the Mandrake
homepage.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dominique Deleris
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 10:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Where is my message 


It's the 5th time I send a message about Netscape to the list, and it
never appeared ! What's happening ?

I attached it to my mail.

Are messages about Netscape filtered ?



RE: [newbie] MS Internet Explorer

1999-10-21 Thread Ken Wilson

What are you running for a machine, Netscape here runs quite fast.  It
is actually faster on this box in Linux mode then it is in Windows mode.

Secondly, Bill Gates hates Linux, I don't think you will be seeing IE in
this lifetime.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeanette Russo
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] MS Internet Explorer


Slava Bezguin wrote:

 Hello!

 Is it possible to use MS Internet Explorer in Mandrake instead of ugly
 Netscape?
 I don't want offence any Netscape lover, but the page full of Java and
other
 modern things gets opened in about 2 min in MSIE and about 5 min in
 Netscape.

 Thanx in advance.

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RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML

1999-10-19 Thread Ken Wilson

What version of Outlook are you using?  I have Outlook 98 and that
option is not present.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R.
Batchelor
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 6:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML


All of the settings I have refer to plain text, so my question is, does
Outlook have a mind of it's own, as most Microsoft products do? Does it
inherit the format from the post I am replying to?

Yes. Under

tools
options
send

There is a check box second from the bottom about replying in the format
the sender used. Deselect the choice.



RE: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML

1999-10-17 Thread Ken Wilson

There was talk some time ago for a FAQ for this group.  It was a good
idea but seemed to have faded.  I would like to see one similar to what
some newsgroups use and maybe have it posted automatically to the list
every two weeks or so.  Those who know what it is could ignore it from
the subject heading and others could read it.  If we did a good job we
might be able to get the fine people at Mandrake to include it on their
website along with the stuff about joining this mail list.

It could cover netiquette as it applies to this list plus also have a
list of websites with solutions and information about some of the more
common problems that keep repeating themselves over and over on here,
i.e. Why won't my Winmodem work?, Why do I get the partition was not
unmounted cleanly (needs kernel/script upgrade), etc. Oh, and how to get
off the list.  :-)

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 7:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] (OT) -- About HTML


On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, you wrote:

 I think it would be useful if the information on decorum for this list
were placed in the
 majordomo welcome, along with a short tutorial on how to turn off HTML
for those who don't
 realize it.  I know how to do it for Netscape, but I am among the
unwashed masses who have
 NEVER used Microsoft Outlook.

Based on the number of "remove" requests posted to the list, the
actual number of people who actually *READ* the welcome message is
probably quite small. Thus, the chances of the "Nettiquette" tutorial
having any effect is negligible. However, if it saved us ONE post in
HTML, I suppose it'd be worth it, and it wouldn't be that much
trouble, as it would automatically go out with the 'welcome'
message... just create that "nettiquette" tutorial once and it would
go out automatically from there. :-)
John



OT: Imation Needs a Spellchecker (was RE: [newbie] .iso file?)

1999-10-17 Thread Ken Wilson

Maybe they meant to call their marque "Imitation".  Could explain the
reportedly low quality of their writeable CD's.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jesse Royall
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] .iso file?


Imation makes good coasters also! and you don't have to screw anything
up
on those! hehe..
So. watch what media you use.

On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:15:30 -0400 John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have ftp'd the file mandrake61-1.iso file. I burned this file
 using Nero
  Burning Rom using the ISO section. I now have a CDrom with one
 file on it;
  mandrake61-1.iso. My question is now what do I do? How is this
 file read?
  When the file was burned to the CD I fiqured it would of been
 opened up to
  many files. Do I have a coaster here?
 You have a coaster. I *think* you have to tell it to use this file as
 an IMAGE, not as a file.
   John

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RE: [newbie] Backup options

1999-10-16 Thread Ken Wilson

Collect all the files you want to back up in a tar archive.  Compress
this archive with gzip.  Copy or transfer the resulting file to the
other drive.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric Mings
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Backup options


I would like to be able to use a backup program to backup some files to
a
harddrive in a directory on another computer on my network. Seems to
me,
from what I have looked at, that the two main commercial backup programs
are focused towards tape drives. Could someone tell me what my best
option might be for this usage (Preferably cheap or free :-) .  I am
used
to Retrospect on the Mac that can backup to damn near anything with
ease.
Thanks!


Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.



RE: [newbie] 100dpi

1999-10-16 Thread Ken Wilson




Yup, 
it sure does. So does HTML in your postings.

Ken WilsonFirst Law of Optimisation: The speed of a 
non-working program is irrelevant(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ 
Programming') 


-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
DonnySent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 2:09 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
100dpi
I was wondering how to enable Linux to use 100 
dpi fonts and my windows TT fonts. Netscape looks 
terrible!


RE: [newbie] shutdown not happening cleanly. Help, please

1999-10-16 Thread Ken Wilson

There is a kernel upgrade and a script fix available from the updates
for 6.0 on the Mandrake website.  Get them and install them.  Your
problem should go away.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Winston
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] shutdown not happening cleanly. Help, please


When I shutdown from Linux Mandrake 6.0, I get
messages saying some files are still busy and aren't
being shutdown right. Then, on booting up, a check is
forced of the root partition, /dev/hda1, for having
been uncleanly mounted. What could this be? Help?

=

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Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com



RE: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype

1999-10-16 Thread Ken Wilson

I stand to be corrected but I would also think you need to have the 100
dpi fonts installed.  I don't use them on my machine so they're not
installed.  It's been a while so I don't remember if installing them was
optional or not.

This probably isn't a complete answer to your problem but is maybe one
place to look.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Salts
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 8:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype


Hello, John,

Maybe you could help me with this or maybe I've already done it, I don't
know.  Somebody in this list told me about a website:
http://www.mandrake.org to go to that had info as how to enlarge the
Linux
tinytype fonts.

Well, I went there, got the directions, printed out the directions,
located
this config file, opened it using 'gedit' as a text editor, swapped the
75's
for the 100's in both entries, one in the /X11/fs and the line in the
'default-resolutions= 75,75,100,100 to the reverse of that  and saved
the
changes, got out of gedit, and read the next set of directions which
said:

Restart the X Font Server by issuing this command as root:

kill -SIGUSR1 $ (pidof xfs)

It didn't say where I should be in Linux when I was supposed to issue
this
command.  I thought I should be in the console when I did that, so I got
up
the console and, as root, typed out the above command and got this
reply:

'unexpected 'p'

I guess something was supposed to have restarted up but nothing like
that
happened.

I just wonder if I did everything necessary by simply retyping the
changes
in that config file and saving it or did I need to do something else?

I hope I've described this fully to you.  Is changing the file enough or
do
I have to issue that 'kill' command and if so, where do I issue it?  In
the
console?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks

Richard





- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype


 On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  John,
 
  I have this same problem with Linux Netscape.  Very s-m-a-l-l print.
What
  do you mean about 'swap the order of the "75dpi" and "100dpi" fonts?
How
  does this give 100 dpi fonts?
 
  Richard
 
 
 Swap the order of the 75dpi and 100 dpi fonts in the
 XF86Config file. This will call the 100dpi fonts
 insteadlarger fonts. You should be able to go in and
 manually select larger fonts anyway...
 John





RE: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype

1999-10-16 Thread Ken Wilson

To find out if you have the 100 dpi fonts installed type the following

rpm -q XFree86-100dip-fonts

Do this from the text console if that's how you log on or from a
terminal window if you start up in XWindows.

Notes: Changing fonts is not just a question of editing fonts.dir.
There is a tool that will create a proper fonts.dir file for you.  It
has been a while so I can't really tell you what the name of it is.  The
mail list archives on Mandrake could help you though, this subject has
been worked to death.

After that you can delete the fonts you are pretty sure you won't be
using but don't change anything else, except for the count value at the
very beginning of the file.  That has to be equal to the number of fonts
the fonts.dir file actually refers to.

There is some talk of deleting reference to all fonts that aren't
referred to as iso8559-1.  I personally cannot say one way or another if
this is a good thing or not.  My advice on this point is to invoke
"Tinker's Rule #1" which is "Make a backup so you can restore the system
to what appeared to be normal for most folks before you got your fingers
in it and screwed up the works."

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Salts
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Netscape Tinytype


Ken,

How would I find out whether they are installed or not?

Richard



RE: [newbie] panoramix must change its name

1999-10-11 Thread Ken Wilson

You may want to avoid the name Houdini.  It is a trade name registered
to a Canadian software company, Side Effects Software, and is the name
of their complete 3-D solution, encompassing modelling, compositing,
lighting, particle systems, texture management, rendering and animation
features.  BTW, this product is in the process of being ported to Linux.
It may already be.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 8:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] panoramix must change its name



RE: [newbie] How do I turn in a hacker?

1999-10-08 Thread Ken Wilson

Or it's possibly an university student testing all the things he's
learning about tcp/ip, sockets and ports and it's really quite harmless.
From what I saw in the log report did not really demonstrate anything I
would be inclined to call a serious attempt at hacking.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I turn in a hacker?


On Fri, 08 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Here You Go My Friend...  I queried him for you all the info i
have
 found is below, i suggest emailing the following person with your
complaint:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the admin from which he subscribes "ripe.net")

Actually, the person you need to email is
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
This is a university computer, so it sounds like someone
has hacked their mainframe and is using it to find "open"
redhat boxes. :-)
John



[newbie] lilo.conf

1999-10-02 Thread Ken Wilson

What purpose does the command 'compact' serve in 'lilo.conf'?

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')



RE: [newbie] L-M screwed up HDD completely?

1999-09-30 Thread Ken Wilson

Did you format the partitions?  I would think that a file system of some
sort had to be set on the partitions before they'd be readable.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin DeGraaf
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] L-M screwed up HDD completely?


Hi all,

I have two hard disk drives.  My primary master is a 14.4 GB that has
one partition (Win98 and all apps, data, etc.).  My primary slave is a
2.5 GB with no data on it.

I tried to install Linux-Mandrake, with the intention of putting it on
the smaller HDD.  I messed around with Disk Druid, and I thought I told
it to create two new partitions (Linux native and Linux swap) on the
smaller HDD.  It messed up, though, and I had to reboot.  Now, Disk
Druid, Linux's fdisk, and Win98's fdisk all say that that drive is not
accessable.  Win98's fdisk is the only util that will actually do
something with the drive.  It appears to let me delete the two
partitions and create a new one, but when I reboot, I run Win98's fdisk
again and it still gives me the same warning message and the two non-DOS
partitions on the drive.  It appears totally FUBARed.  Any ideas?

Kevin DeGraaf




RE: [newbie] newbie-remove (Definitely OT)

1999-09-30 Thread Ken Wilson

I'm beginning to think it's the same newbie over and over again because
he likes getting all that fan mail.  :-)

That, or they're so intellectually challenged that if reading the
instructions that get sent when they enrol is quantum physics then Linux
must seem like another universe in another dimension.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] newbie-remove


On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 
  Maybe they're just stupid. :-(

 Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several
times
 trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you
got
 started.

Geeever think maybe they're just too damn lazy to go visit the
site where they first got the info on how to subscribe



RE: [newbie] Netscape 4.7 released on win32

1999-09-30 Thread Ken Wilson

I just checked Netscape's web site out.  4.7 is available as Linux 2.0
or Linux 2.0(glibc).

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eosnet Team
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 9:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Netscape 4.7 released on win32


Any word on when (if not already) there will be a 4.7 for linux?



RE: [newbie] Re:

1999-09-29 Thread Ken Wilson

But didn't you just love that nice shade of green, for those that can
read in html that is.  :-)

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry Marler
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Re:


--On Wednesday, September 29, 1999, 5:57 PM +0200 Stefan Van Dessel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 newbie remove

..in HTML, no less ;-)




RE: [newbie] More PHP woes

1999-09-28 Thread Ken Wilson

The safe_mysqld script should run at boot time if you followed a
standard installation.  If not, set it up to run at boot time.  Remember
to have it run in the background by adding the ''.

It is best to use safe_mysqld to start and run mysql because after it
starts it constantly checks to see if it's running.  If it should die
for some reason, safe_mysqld will restart it.  Also, any parameter you
pass to safe_mysqld get passed to the MySQL daemon itself.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] More PHP woes


On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Brett Jones wrote:
 Was the devel rpm the same version as the apache rpm your running. If
not,
 upgrade the apache rpm to the same version as the apache-devel rpm.

That was the problem. Thanks. Strange, since I'm sure I upgraded apache
to
that version previously.

What's the best way to launch the msql server during start-up?

James.



RE: [newbie] conio.h file missing?

1999-09-28 Thread Ken Wilson

You say for obvious reasons but I can't see anything that obvious.  I
would suggest going back to the instructor and ask him

 1) why are you mixing C and C++?
 2) why are you using 'conio.h' which is meant to handle
platform specific I/0 as opposed to 'stdio.h' which is
the standard ANSI C header?

What I get from my reference material here at home is

"getch() - Reads a character without echo; does not wait for carriage
return; not defined by ANSI standard C, but a common extension."

This may mean a few things, possibly having to turn off ANSI compliance
or, worst case scenario, it may be a common extension but the supplier
of your compiler didn't.  I'm sure your instructor has his reasons, i.e.
hiding character input of a password.  Go back to him and get him to
give you a better bang for your education dollar on this one.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] conio.h file missing?

...

I'm making another C++ program for school, and we are using

cout  "press the any key to continue";
getch();

for obvious reasons.

My problem is that we're supposed to use conio.h file to define
getch().  It ain't there . . .

...



RE: [newbie] conio.h file missing? (Possibly OT by now 8- )

1999-09-28 Thread Ken Wilson

Okay.  Understood.  We approached it differently where I was schooled.
Java first to make getting your head around OOP easier.  Then C++.
Assembler was done first term alongside Java and C was done when we
started to get into operating system details using the Linux OS as the
basis for theory and discussion.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] conio.h file missing?


snip

And we use stdio for everything else.

The reason we're mixing them is b/c C++ is C incremented.  C++
contains c.  We start out with functional programming and then move up
to OOP.

snip



RE: [newbie] Re: []

1999-09-22 Thread Ken Wilson

I am waiting for the day someone types 'remove' and someone replies 'me
too'.  hehehe :-)

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
 Scottaline
 Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 1:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Re: []


 John Paul Donaldson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  remove
 =
 Do they do this on purpose??
 Release the hounds!!  AGAIN! :o)

 ++
 Michael Scottaline
 
 COL 2.2   Linux 2.2.5
 * * * * * * * * * * *
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RE: [newbie] (Off Topic)

1999-09-22 Thread Ken Wilson

Well, it's spam.  Keep it out of the mailing list please.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of fred
 Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 3:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] (Off Topic)


 Off topic  http://www.linuxnic.net
 Spam? I guess a bit of shameless promotion -:)
 Blame me directly at the above email if you are bent.


 Cheers.




RE: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!?

1999-09-22 Thread Ken Wilson

Eric,

I wouldn't say whoever it is has hacked your box, at least not yet.  But
it is evidence they tried.  It's not that hard, you just telnet to port
25 and manually feed it commands line by line.

Read up on sendmail, 'man sendmail' might be a start, and get a book on
Unix and Internet Security.  I have 'Practical Unix and Internet
Security' by Simson Garfinkel and Gene Spafford from O'Reilly.  It has
some interesting stuff on sendmail.  I used some of the stuff to test my
security.  Fortunately I found out my version of sendmail was current
enough not to respond to the commands 'wiz', 'debug' or 'kill'.

Sendmail is an all things to all people kind of mail daemon.  You might
want to check into alternate servers for your smtp needs.  Because of
its size and the workload it can handle sendmail can be a real dog to
configure properly.  I don't know how hard post is to configure but one
solution might be to switch to it.  I'm sure someone at Mandrake can
shed more light on the arguments for and against each of these daemons.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric L. Damron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric L. Damron 
 
 
 I have found that people unknown are attacking my linux box!  The
 following
 entries were found in maillog:
 
 snip horrible whining sound
 
 Please!  If anyone knows what this jerk is trying to do and
 How I can stop
 him PLEASE let me know!
 
 Thanks.
 





RE: [newbie] (Off Topic)

1999-09-22 Thread Ken Wilson

Fred,

I think you're missing the point.  Legal or not, it comes across as some
carnival huckster who thinks we are just a bunch of schmoes.  Take it an
pedal it somewhere else and don't insult our intelligence.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of fred
 Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:28 PM
 To: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] (Off Topic)



  More than just that:
  shameless promotion of an *illegal* product that *won't ever work*.
 
  You can't just create a TLD all of your own and ask ISPs to
 list you as a
  root nameserver.
  There's nothing that prevents me from doing the same for
 just the same
  TLD, and where will that get us?

 Anyone can do this and its not illegal.  Wrong.




RE: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!?

1999-09-22 Thread Ken Wilson

Try doing 'nslookup 123.456.789.12'.  See if it resolves to anything you
can use.  Oh, substitute the ip address of the person who's been trying
to hack you for the one I got to lazy to make legitimate looking.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss
 Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 7:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!?


 how do you find this info?  is there a command (or service) that will
 give you this info about an ip?

 :P_


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You might want to contact the owner of the network from which this
  traffic originated.  It may give you some sense of
 satisfaction to know
  that the script-kiddie in question got nailed by his
 university.  Here's
  the contact information for 157.89.64.77.  Enjoy!
 
  Eastern Kentucky University (NET-EKU)
 Academic Computing Services
 3.395219E-313astern Kentucky University
 Richmond, KY 40475-3111
 
 Netname: EKU
 Netnumber: 157.89.0.0
 
 Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
 
 ACS.EKU.EDU157.89.8.64
 NCC.UKY.EDU128.163.1.6
 
 Record last updated on 12-Apr-93.
 
  Registrant:
  Eastern Kentucky University (EKU-DOM)
 Academic Computing Services Combs
 Classroom Bldg Room 207
 Richmond, KY 40475-3111
 US
 
 Domain Name: EKU.EDU
 
 Administrative Contact:
Lane, Margaret  (CT152)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(606)622-1986
 Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
ALCORN, MELVIN  (MA172)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(606)622-1986
 Billing Contact:
Lane, Margaret  (CT152)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(606)622-1986
 
 Record last updated on 20-Aug-98.
 Record created on 22-Mar-93.
 Database last updated on 21-Sep-99 14:40:22 EDT.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: axalon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:30 PM
  To: newbie
  Cc: axalon
  Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] PLEASE! What do these log entries mean?!?
 
  On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Eric L. Damron wrote:
 
   I have found that people unknown are attacking my linux box!  The
  following
   entries were found in maillog:
  
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1979]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]:
  VRFY
   guest
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1980]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]:
  VRFY
   decode
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1981]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]:
  VRFY bbs
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1982]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]:
  VRFY lp
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1983]: NOQUEUE: [157.89.64.77]:
  VRFY
   uudecode
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1977]: NOQUEUE: "wiz"
 command from
   [157.89.64.77] (157.89.64.77)
   Sep 15 07:09:07 C287853-A sendmail[1977]: NOQUEUE: "debug" command
  from
   [157.89.64.77] (157.89.64.77)
  
   (WHAT THE HELL IS THE "WIZ" COMMAND.  AND THE "DEBUG" COMMAND!!
  
   Please!  If anyone knows what this jerk is trying to do
 and How I can
  stop
   him PLEASE let me know!
  
   Thanks.
  
 
  ipchains -I input -s 157.89.64.77/0 -d 0/0 -j REJECT
 
  --
  MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
  --Axalon
 
 
 --
 --
Name: WINMAIL.DAT
 WINMAIL.DATType: application/ms-tnef
Encoding: base64




RE: [newbie] Netscape

1999-09-21 Thread Ken Wilson

Are you sure it's Netscape that is causing the problem?  I'm running
4.61 on my box at home and it is in 24bpp mode.  Colours are all good.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
 Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape


 On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, you wrote:
  
 
  well since everyone is talking about netscape i have a
 question for you. Does
  anyone know why my button icons, and the little netscape
 comet thing all appear in
  black and white? its netscape 4.61 and im running in 24bit
 color mode.
  thanks
 
 It's because you ARE in 24-bit mode. It's something to do
 with Netscape...not Mandrake. :-) It does it here in RedHat
 in 24-bit mode as well...
   John




RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer

1999-09-20 Thread Ken Wilson

Donny,

If you've been paying attention, the IE for Linux will be available
about the 32nd of Never.  At least that is the general concensus.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donny
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 1:35 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer


 ok, thanx... wenz the version of IE for linux gonna be availible?



RE: [[newbie] Internet Explorer]

1999-09-20 Thread Ken Wilson

Except that it won't support server push technology, or at least still
didn't last time I looked.  Netscape does support server push.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
 Scottaline
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 2:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [[newbie] Internet Explorer]


 Donny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey, does anyone know of a version of IE for linux? Or if any of the
  Unix versions of IE will run under linux?
 
  Thanks!
 ==
 No such animal AFAIK.  Too bad.  It's one of the better M$
 products :o(
 Mike

 
 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
 http://webmail.netscape.com.




RE: [newbie] HP 722C printer no fly.

1999-09-20 Thread Ken Wilson

It's a 'WinPrinter'.  Won't even crawl under Linux, let alone fly.  I
think there's a work around that will give you black and white only but
I've misplaced the information at this time.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jaybird X
 Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 5:43 AM
 To: Linux List (newbie)
 Subject: [newbie] HP 722C printer no fly.


 My HP 722C won't even flinch on any of the HP prfiles in
 printtool. They
 cover the 5xx, 6xx, and 8xx series machines though. Is there a reason
 this model isn't supported? This is the last hardware knot on my
 semi-painless maiden linux voyage(except for the P-port scanner, but I
 ain't asking for miracles yet!).
 Asus P5A
 K6-II 400
 Mandrake 6.0

 Jay Deacon
 --
 Be the first one on your block to put a Penguin in your box.




RE: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar

1999-09-19 Thread Ken Wilson

No need for the expletives.  BTW, if you're not into a little RTFM now
and then you are both 1) using the wrong OS if you think you can do
Linux without it, and 2) not going to get much sympathy or help for your
problems from those of us who do our RTFM when it's required.  :-)

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric L. Damron
 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 8:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar


 Thanks for the info Brett.

 And BTW I am a newbie to Linux and I have been RTFM almost
 constantly and
 I'm getting F*king tired of RTFM so if I can get a little information
 without RTFM, I certainly will.

 So, If anyone out there can tell me how to install a "tar.gz"
 file so that I
 don't have to RTFM I would appreciate it!

 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 7:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar


 Downloaded it with winblows? It should be php-3.0.9.tar.gz.
 You should go
 download  the newest tar file "3.0.12" from php.net, and
 while your there
 RTFM.
 
 Note: It may be installed on your sys already. Run "rpm -q php"
 
 In the future go to a real software database site
 (freshmeat.net), that has
 the
 current tar files for any given software package.
 
 On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, you wrote:
  I need to install PHP.  I picked up PHP-3_0_9_tar.tar from
  http://www.downloadsafari.com
 
  How do I know that this file will work with Mandrake 6.0
 (RedHat 6.0)
 
  How do I install it?
 
  Thanks
 --
 Brett Jones
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [newbie] the programming language

1999-09-19 Thread Ken Wilson

I believe the primary language for most of Linux is C.  You may find
that some of the add-ons and other applications are written in other
languages.  Emacs, for example, uses Lisp.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Brault
 Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 5:42 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] the programming language


 Sorry for the overly simple question... but can anyone tell me what
 language Linux was written in?  Thanks in advance and don't
 laugh too long
 and hard!

 Joe :)




RE: [newbie] mru mtu settings

1999-09-16 Thread Ken Wilson

Listen to your provider.  From what I have been able to obtain in the
way of information this is more necessary when winmodems and Windows are
involved.  Also, one may want to adjust them carefully.  You may
increase your traffic over the net one way or the other at the expense
of the other processes you are running on your computer at the time.

This isn't the final word though.  If you hear something different feel
free to play with those settings and let us know of the results.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hugh
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:50 AM
 To: newbie
 Subject: [newbie] mru mtu settings


 Hi I wonder if anyone has taking time to adjust there
 mru or mtu settings? If you have what were the settings you
 used? I have
 been told not to adjust them by my provider. But I read somewhere that
 they need to be adjusted to get the best speed possible from my modem

 Thanks
 Hugh




RE: [newbie] Recoverable disk space

1999-09-15 Thread Ken Wilson

Not wanting to seem like I'm talking down to you but I might think you
wouldn't want to be using a hex editor yet if you have to ask what it
is.

That said, it is a tool, much like a regular text editor, EXCEPT, it
lets you play with the individual bytes as hexadecimal values and
arbitrarily change them to any value you wish.  As you can see, doing
this to a simple text file might not be so bad, doing it to an
executable or a specially encoded file could be deadly.

It's located off one of the utilities menus in your desktop.  Take a
peak at a file with it if you wish.  Play with it if you're brave, but
don't say you weren't forwarned.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy
 Kersenbrock
 Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:06 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Recoverable disk space


 Bob,

 Perhaps my newbie status concerning technical issues is
 showing... What is a
 hex editor?

 I have already uninstalled a good portion of the software on
 my machine and
 have nothing left in the Running Programs list (CtrlAltDel)
 other than
 Explorer and Systray.  All I've gained is 60-some MB of
 recoverable space.
 At least I've eliminated some of the scattered clusters, but
 now I have two
 large (1000+ cluster) clumps near the end of the drive that I
 can't get out
 of the way. If I could move or eliminate these cluster groups, I could
 recover sufficient space and almost half of my drive.

 As it is, I can only now recover 120 MB from a disk with more
 than 1 Gig of
 free space!  I suspect that the problem clusters are acutally parts of
 Windows itself -- maybe even something vital like the
 Registry.  Maybe I'll
 be able to tell once I know what a hex editor is and how to use it.

 Thanks
 Jeremy


 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Recoverable disk space
 
  I was just using Commander as an example of the type of
 program. Hmmm,
  have you tryed looking at the sectors with a hex editor?
 Don't change
  anything, just look, maybe you can find a clue as to what
 program that
  they belong to. Another indicator will be the date on those
 files. If
  you can figure out what the filenames are (hex editor
 again) check the
  dates, if they get updated regularly then they probably belong to a
  ysytem level program. If they haven't been touched in a
 long time they
  may be leftovers from something that's no longer on your system.
 
  Once you identify them there ater ways to deal with them.
 See what you
  can find out.
 
  Good luck
 
  Bob Jackson
 
 





[newbie] RE:

1999-09-15 Thread Ken Wilson

Stop what?  I didn't do it.  And even if you have evidence I'll deny it.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oliver
 Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:


 STOP

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RE: [newbie] STOP

1999-09-15 Thread Ken Wilson

And no, you don't have to show us hairy palms to prove it.  I'm getting
older and my eyesight is doing that age thing.  So I figured, long as I
need glasses anyway, I could start again.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron deRozario
 Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:52 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] STOP


 I've got a seeing eye dog

  -Original Message-
  From:   Ken Archer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Thursday, September 16, 1999 9:45 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: [newbie] STOP
 
  I just did it till I needed glasses.
 
   Alas I cannot, been doin it for 45 odd years now.
  
   The Pope did say if I did not stop I'd go blind.
  
   Michael Doyle
   Adelaide, South Australia
   ICQ # 2635762
   http://landofoz.apana.org.au
  --
  Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ICQ #24980801
  Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail
 




RE: [newbie] gcc not working

1999-09-14 Thread Ken Wilson

If you are still in the directory you compiled it in try running it as
follows "./filename"  That will run it if you are in the same directory
you compiled in.  I suspect the problem you are seeing is because the
directory you compiled in is not included in your environment's path
variable.

Secondly, did you compile properly, i.e "gcc filename.c -o filename".
If not, look for a file called 'a.out', which you could then run by
typing './a.out'

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 5:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] gcc not working


 Hello,

 I've just installed 6.0, and gotten almost everything working well.
 But when I tried to compile my "Hello World" program to see if gcc is
 working, I got a weird error saying something like "cannot
 find file or dir",
 and I know this is not the case. The file is there. A simple
 gcc w/ no args
 works, I get the "no file given" error. Anyone had similar
 problems or know
 how to fix this?

 Thanks,
 Scott




RE: [newbie] Mount hd on boot

1999-09-12 Thread Ken Wilson

This hasn't been trialed but is only a reasoned solution based on my
limited knowledge.  You may wish to wait until you hear further from
other more learned parties.

Try playing with the permissions for your mount point, in particular the
group.  If you want write access for certain select users set up a new
group, i.e. dosusers, and add the people you want in that group.  Then
change the mount point group to dosusers, ie. chgrp dosusers
/mnt/drive-h.  When this is done change the permissions, i.e. chmod 770
/mnt/drive-h.  This should allow root and any members of the dosusers
group to have read/write access to the drive.  You will notice that
world access of any type has been eliminated so that only the select few
will even get near the dos partitions.  I believe the permissions on
your dos mount points as they stand now are probably rwxr_xr_x root
root.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Brown
 Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 1:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Mount hd on boot


 Ken Wilson wrote:

  When you set the options for your vfat partitions don't use
 'default'
  but add each one you need manually.  Using 'rw' will allow
 you to both
  read and write to a vfat partition.

   That doesn't do it.  It mounts the drive in read-write
 mode, which
 means the _system_ can write to it, but it still gives "access denied"
 when a non-root user tries to write to it.

 --
 Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and
 taste good
 with ketchup.




RE: [newbie] gcc doesn't understand iostream.h

1999-09-12 Thread Ken Wilson

Try using g++ instead of gcc.  Otherwise, you have to link the c++
libraries manually.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon
 Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 6:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] gcc doesn't understand iostream.h


 Since my reinstall I can't compile my simple Comp. Sci. I programs
 under gcc.  It gives me errors saying undefined function calls to
 cout, cin, etc.

 How do I get my header libraries back?

 Thanks!!

 --
 Ty Mixon
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ:  26147713






RE: [newbie] Runlevel 5

1999-09-12 Thread Ken Wilson

Alt+Backspace usually shuts down a hung X server.  It might take you out
and back to a console.  Other than that just run a console from within
X.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Goth
 Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 4:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Runlevel 5


 I need to set runlevel 5 as default for my dad's sake.  That
 way he can
 log in and shut down the system with ease (he doesn't know any other
 way).  But with kdm, he just clicks his picture and enters his
 password...

 Sometimes, though, I find it necessary to kill X.  How can I do so
 without rebooting into runlevel 3?  Is there a way to stop kdm and X
 after having booted into runlevel 5?

 Thanks in advance, guys
 __
 _
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 UIN: 35256413




RE: [newbie] RPM's without docs?

1999-09-11 Thread Ken Wilson

You raise a very good question.  I loaded the rpm for mysql and although
the package lists all of the docs, none of them made it into the alleged
directory, or anywhere else on my system for that matter.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss
 Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] RPM's without docs?


 i too have had these problems.  every package i installed when i first
 installed mandrake has the docs.  packages i have installed since then
 have the doc directories built, but they are empty.  i have only used
 kpackage for installation, so i wonder if there is a bug?

 :P



RE: [newbie] Partition Erro

1999-09-11 Thread Ken Wilson

I can't speak for Mr. Miller but I can for myself.  I have a dual boot
with Windows and Linux on it.  I use them both as somethings are more
convenient in one OS then the other.  Also, I am currently studying
computer systems technology and have come to the realization that, in
the real world, what I would like to work with and what I get to work
with are two completely different animals.  So the more I know about
each the better.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Partition Erro


 On 11 Sep 99, at 14:59, Leonard W. Miller wrote:

  Thanks foe the tip.  I used Fdisk and change the cylinder
 size and then used
  Druid.  Everything went fine.
  Sorry for the html.
  Thanks again for the help.
 
 
  Leonard W. Miller
  Microsoft Certified Professional
  A+ Certified Technician
 
 

 Pardon me Mr. Miller if I poke a little fun at (possibly) your
 expense...  Anyone else notice the irony of a Microsoft Certified
 Professional on a Linux newbie mailing list?

 I realize that the more one has in the way of information,
 the better.
  Becoming more informed about multiple OS's is a good idea, but I
 can't help but imagine some kind of disenchantment or "there has
 to be a better way" behind the interest in Linux.

 Just my 2 cents, and you know what you can buy with that these
 days.


 -- Tim and/or Wendy

 If you don't think life is interesting,
 You're not paying attention.




RE: [newbie] aliases for shell?

1999-09-11 Thread Ken Wilson

Items you edit in the /etc directory won't take effect until the next
time you reboot your machine.  Items edited in a person's home
directory, i.e. /home/username/.bash_profile, take effect the next time
the person logs on.  The stuff in the /etc directory is global and only
run once at boot time.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. David Whitlock
 Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 5:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] aliases for shell?


 OK, well, maybe there's a flaw in how I'm testing this:

 I edit ~/.bashrc which before I edit it looks like this: # .bashrc

 # User specific aliases and functions
 alias rm='rm -i'
 alias mv='mv -i'
 alias cp='cp -i'


 So I add the line
 alias clr='clear'
 to the end

 And then exit out of the konsole I'm in.  Start up a new
 Konsole in KDE or
 flip to a new VT, log in and type clr.

 Never heard of it, says the shell.  (sigh).  This has got to
 be absurdly
 easy, but I'm just missing something.  (oh, and btw, yes, I
 edit all the
 files in the /etc dir as root.  And if the modification I use doesn't
 work, I remove it and find a new file to mess with...)

 Later,
  david

 "Without the Law, there is no Liberty.  Without Justice,
 there is no Law."


 On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

  On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, you wrote:
  
   I have edited ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, /etc/bashrc,
 /etc/profile, and I
   think some others, all to no avail.  Do I just need to
 use a different
   shell, or create a config file or what?  I know I used to
 have this set
   up, I don't remember how in other dists...
  
  Here's my ~/.bashrc, and everything there works fine:
  
 
  # .bashrc
 
  # User specific aliases and functions
  alias rm='rm -i'
  alias mv='mv -i'
  alias cp='cp -i'
  alias clr='clear'
  alias cls='clear'
  alias ls='ls --color'
  alias sx='startx -- -bpp 16'
  alias v='ls --color'
  alias bye='logout'
 
  export EDITOR=/usr/bin/joe
 
  # Need for a xterm  co if we don't make a -ls
  [ -n $DISPLAY ]  {
  . /etc/profile.d/alias.sh
  }
 
  # Read first /etc/inputrc if the variable is not defined,
 and after the /etc/inputrc
  # include the ~/.inputrc
 
  [ -z $INPUTRC ]  export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
 
  # Source global definitions
 
  if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
  . /etc/bashrc
  fi
 
  
  Ok...here's the $64,000 question: HOW did you enter the "test
  aliases"? Were you "root" when you made the changes? If not, chances
  are it won't work (except for the personal ~/.bashrc and
  ~/.bash_profile) Also, did you enter the alias defs EXACTLY as
  follows:
  alias command='some_other_command'
  ??? Please note the SINGLE quotes around
 "some_other_command." above.
  John
 




RE: [newbie] newbie-forced to post this in Win95

1999-09-09 Thread Ken Wilson

I don't know if it will help but maybe try running your third hard drive
as the seconday master and the cd as the secondary slave.  That works on
my system here.  I have 3 harddrives, 4G, 8G and 11G respectively.
Except for what I need to boot Linux, which resides low on my primary
master, the rest resides in various partions on my primary slave.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David P.
 Greenberg
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] newbie-forced to post this in Win95


 AAARGGGHHH!!! I've successfully set up linux several times in several
 different distros, and actually started using it. I recently
 added a new HD
 and a 40x CD-Rom to my system, and in so doing decided to go for fresh
 installs on both my Win32 and Linux systems. I now have
 Windows (OS only) on
 my 500mb primary master(/hda) and Windows programs on /hdb
 (6.3 gb quantum
 bigfoot set as primary slave). For my secondary master which
 would be /hdc I
 have the new CD-Rom, and I have a 4.3 gb Western Dig as
 secondary slave or
 /hdd. For some reason I get one of the following errors when
 I try to run
 the Mandrake 6 install.
 Can't mount /hdc Invalid argument
 or
 no media in /hdc
 or
 invalid media.
 at one point I did manage to get it to see the cd and start
 the install, but
 when I got to disk druid, It wouldn't see the hard drive. I
 tried putting my
 old CD-Rom drive back in, and now it won't work with that
 either. Please
 help, as I really want to get my Linux back
 Thanks in advance


 David P. Greenberg
 Bitco Electronics
 "In Service to the Recording Industry"
 **The falcon has heard the falconer**




[newbie] RE:

1999-09-07 Thread Ken Wilson

One thing I can see right off the bat.  Use '/', not '\'

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Graham Innocent
 Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 4:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:


 Dear All,
 I have just bought Mandrake 6.0 and am having trouble getting
 the included
 version of partition magic to work properly from windows '98.

 I can create the Linux native '\' partition and the swapfile
 parition just
 fine, but I can't get it to create a '\home' partition.
 Please help. I don't
 want to delete all my win '98 data.




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RE: [newbie] cron error

1999-09-05 Thread Ken Wilson

If you look at slocate.cron in a text editor you will notice that the
last '}' is on a line by itself.  Go to the last '}' and do a backspace
to bring it back up to its proper line.

If that doesn't work you'll have to open slocate.cron with the hex
editor.  If you are using the hex editor, replace the 0A that appears
just in front of the '}' with 20 (space).  That should resolve the issue
for sure.  When you are done you should only have the slocate.cron file.
If you have a slocate.cron~ file get rid of it.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JK
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:44 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] cron error


 Every time cron runs the below thing is what is sent to the
 root user. I
 logged on as root to install a new rpm I downloaded and it said I had
 mail. I checked mail and 8 messages were based on this error. Any clue
 how to fix the error?

 /usr/bin/news.daily: /var/lib/news/.news.daily: Permission denied
 /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of
 file

 Thanks in advance
 John





RE: [newbie] AV Progs?

1999-09-04 Thread Ken Wilson

Trojans are programmed disquised as other programs.  The user thinks
they are running one thing while underneath the program is doing
something else, usually something you'd rather it didn't.  They are
executables so aren't involved in the boot up.  That said, it is not
beyond a trojan, when executed, to tamper with your mbr or anything else
it wants to.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hendrick
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 1:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] AV Progs?


 Does anyone think it is neccesary to use AV programs for Linux?
 If a Trojan is installed on my Windows partition, can people
 still access my
 PC when I'm using Linux?  Or are trojans boot virii so wont
 run unless I boot
 win98?

 --
 Best Regards,
 Paul Hendrick
 http://www.btinternet.com/~engprin1/linux.htm




RE: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs

1999-09-04 Thread Ken Wilson

I think whether it's called X11amp or xmms is irrelvant as long as the
icon connects to it and it runs when asked to so.  :)

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 4:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs


 On Sat, 04 Sep 1999, you wrote:
 
  John (Brian too)I don't think that the above is true.
 My mdk 6.0
  installation has an icon in Application Starter/Multimedia named
  X11Amp.kdelnk which links to an executable called
  /usr/X11R6/bin/x11amp.
 
 Then it's an older version. Go to www.xmms.org and see for
 yourself it's the SAME site as www.x11amp.org used to be. :-)
 Trust me on this...I'm on their mailing list. :-)
   John




RE: [newbie] AV Progs?

1999-09-04 Thread Ken Wilson

Many attempts to compromise a Linux system take over the UID of the
person executing the program and gaining the incumbent permissions of
that person.  Therefore, if you're logged in as root and you get
compromised your computer just became their oyster.

Security goes beyond just not logging in as root to access the internet.
If you are running any servers that listen to the net for activity they
can be compromised if someone knows how to exploit them.  My policy is
only to run servers I absolutely have to and read every exploit bulletin
on them so I can attemp to make sure my security is as up to date as
possible for the particular service I am running.  That is also one of
the reasons most servers get their own userID and group, i.e. http
usually gets nobody:nobody, ftp gets ftp:ftp, etc.  That way, with
little privilege themselves, there should be less ability to compromise
the overall system.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hendrick
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 5:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] AV Progs?

snip

 :) I only use root to install programs or games etc...
 Why does logging in as root make it easier?  I know that this
 is the case, but
 how come?

 --
 Best Regards,
 Paul Hendrick
 http://www.btinternet.com/~engprin1/linux.htm




RE: [newbie] slocate

1999-09-03 Thread Ken Wilson

I told you you had an extra carriage return in there.  I also said to
hex edit the file and replace the second to last '0A' (LF) with a '20'
(space).  I didn't say nuke it.  And that was for the slocate.cron only.
If you open the file in the hex editor the offending character is just
to the left of the last brace (right hand curly bracket).

When you're done you should have only one /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron
file and the slocate.cron~ one should not exist.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:40 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] slocate


 HeyI had an error with a built-in cron job a few days ago and
 someone told me I had an extra carriage-return in there, so I nuked
 it. Now it tells me "unexpected end of file." (below is the EXACT
 quote...):
 From root  Thu Sep  2 04:02:07 1999
 Return-Path: root
 Received: (from root@localhost)
   by slave1.chattanooga.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11373
   for root; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:02:03 -0400
 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:02:03 -0400
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cron root@slave1 run-parts /etc/cron.daily
 X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/bash
 X-Cron-Env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
 X-Cron-Env: MAILTO=root
 X-Cron-Env: HOME=/
 X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root

 /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error:
 unexpected end of file
 /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron~: line 6: syntax error:
 unexpected end of file

 From root  Fri Sep  3 04:02:08 1999
 Return-Path: root
 Received: (from root@localhost)
   by slave1.chattanooga.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12039
   for root; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:02:04 -0400
 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 04:02:04 -0400
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cron root@slave1 run-parts /etc/cron.daily
 X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/bash
 X-Cron-Env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
 X-Cron-Env: MAILTO=root
 X-Cron-Env: HOME=/
 X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root

 /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error:
 unexpected end of file
 /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron~: line 6: syntax error:
 unexpected end of file
 ==
 Here's the cron job:
 #!/bin/sh

 [ -e /usr/bin/updatedb ]  { sh /usr/bin/updatedb } || {
   /usr/bin/slocate -u -e /tmp -e
 "/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net,/proc"
 }
 
 What's the problem with this??? Why does it say unexpected end of
 file?
 Thanks...
   John






RE: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs

1999-09-03 Thread Ken Wilson

What were the error messages?  It might be easier to decipher your
problem if we knew them.

Also, were you aware that there are two mp3 players that come with the
Mandrake distribution.  One is x11amp (or something to that effect),
which is a WinAmp clone, and another one I can't remember.  If you check
under the multimedia portion of the tool bar you should find them.  That
is, if you installed them when you installed Mandrake.  :)

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Snyder
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] C++ compiler error when loading programs


 Hi

 I tried to load a couple programs last night for MP3 players
 and extracted the
 files into another folder before installation. They were
 supposed to install
 with the ./configure command and then 'make' and then 'make
 install'. I saw some
 action on the screen as if things were proceeding fine under
 the ./configure
 and then it got to a point where there was an error about my
 C++ compiler.

 Has anyone else experienced this?

 Any suggestions?

 Many thanks in advance.

 Jim
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [newbie] NFS Problem

1999-09-03 Thread Ken Wilson

I was one of the one's suggesting to edit your fstab file.  I'm not sure
if this will answer your problem but I'll list my entries in fstab as
they pertain to my dos partions.  That might give you some ideas for
your own.

/dev/hda1   /mnt/drive-cvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0
/dev/hda6   /mnt/drive-evfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0
/dev/hda7   /mnt/drive-fvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0
/dev/hda8   /mnt/drive-gvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0
/dev/hda9   /mnt/drive-hvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0
/dev/hdc1   /mnt/drive-dvfat exec,dev,nosuid,rw,conv=auto 1 0

The first 3 columns are self explanatory at this point I think.  I will
explain my rationale for what I've entered in the options column and the
last two.

exec  = acknowledges executables (can get you into trouble if the
file you are trying to execute is not a Linux executable,
using 'noexec' here avoids any problems)
dev   = allows access to device nodes (can get you into trouble,
probably better to have 'nodev' as the option here
nosuid= disallows the setting of the set userID and set groupID file
mode bits
rw= partition is read/write
conv=auto = automatic conversion of DOS CR/LF to UNIX LF and vice-versa
when transfering text files from one file system to the
other.

Note: Using 'defaults' in the options sets the following options:

 rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async

To find out more about what options are available to you and what they
mean read the man page for mount.  Anything you can use with the -o
switch in mount can be used here.

In regards to your problem with NFS, if you're not sharing the files on
this computer with another computer, or sharing files from another
computer uninstall NFS.  You don't need it to access DOS files that
already are contained in other partitions on your machine.  It is for
sharing files over the network.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Hoeller
 Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 7:11 AM
 To: Newbie
 Subject: [newbie] NFS Problem


 I recently asked how to access my Win98 partition and was told to edit
 /etc/fstab. and add something similar to toe following:
 /dev/hda1/mnt/dosvfatdefaults

 I did this and after rebooting I could access my Win98 files
 but when Linux
 boots I get a msg saying share/config/kdmrc file can't be
 read or no such
 file.. and /var/nfs/xtab failed.

 On shutdown I get a msg saying that NFS mountd Failed.

 Everything seems to be working OK, I can still access my
 files in a read
 only mode and I can't see any other problems. Should I ignore
 these msg's or
 correct them? If I correct them how do I go about doing so?

 Bob




RE: [newbie] Install cannot find filesystems

1999-09-02 Thread Ken Wilson

When you're at the DiskDruid you will need to change the partion types
from dos to ext2 filesystem (for your Linux partitions).  You can do
this within DiskDruid.  You may want to change partitions sizes and
number at that time.  As a minimum you will need about a 64 to 128 Mb
swap partition and at least one partion for mounting '/'.  Note, your
swap partition cannot exceed 128 Mb.

There's more to designing an individuals file system than this but a lot
is up to individual taste and needs.  Check your hardcopy documentation
with the MacMillan distribution to see if it gives you an overview of
filesystems.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marco
 Miller (LMC)
 Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:08 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [newbie] Install cannot find filesystems


 Hello all,

 My "filesystems" cannot be found by the Macmillan Linux-Mandrake 6.0
 installation, right after choosing either "Disk druid" or
 "Fdisk". I don't
 choose the SCSI option since my hard drive is an EIDE Western Digital
 UDMA/66 (9.1GB, 7200rpm). I have Windows 98 working well on
 my primary DOS
 4GB partition and I have two more logical empty partitions
 defined (2GB,
 3GB) in my extended DOS partition. I install by booting from
 the floppy and
 installing from the CDROM.

 Any hint that could help me solve my problem?
 Thanks a lot!
 Marco Miller.




RE: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available

1999-09-02 Thread Ken Wilson

Thanks for the link Gavin.  This clears up the waters that were quickly
becoming very, very muddy around here.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gavin Grabias
 Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 1:26 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] How about this ? Red Hat GPL No Longer Available

snip

 Read the new http://www.slashdot.org/ article.  They clarify
 the terms.  Its
 not like most here are speaking of.


 Regards,
Gavin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



RE: [newbie] What's wrong with this???

1999-08-31 Thread Ken Wilson

I don't think I can help with the stray "0:", however, I can help you
with the slocate file.  Clean it up and it may fix your "0:", seeing as
the two processes seem to run one behind the other.

The message "line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file" is generated
by a stray eof character (0A hex)near the end of
/etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron.  Use a hex editor and go to what should be
line 6, you will see two eof characters in very close proximity.
Replace the second last one with a space character (20 hex).

Get rid of your cron script wakeup.cron and start over.  Cron entries
are not meant to be installed or edited directly.  Read the man page for
crontab, that's what you should be using to add anything you want done
on a scheduled basis.  If you do need to edit use 'crontab -e'.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Aldrich
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] What's wrong with this???


snip

 /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron: line 6: syntax error:
 unexpected end of file
 /etc/cron.daily/wakeup.cron: 0: command not found
 /etc/cron.daily/wakeup.cron~: 0: command not found

 Below is the cron job itself:
 # Cron script to (hopefully) play an MP3 file to wake me up
 in the mornings
 # at 6:00 AM Monday through Friday
 #
 0 6 * * 1-5 /usr/bin/mpg123 "/home/john/taco-puttin_on_the_ritz.mp3"

 Ok...my question is as follows: What the heck is the problem? I do
 NOT have the "0:" in there (I *used* to, but I removed it yesterday.)
 Where did the system get that "0:"??? Do I need to reboot in order to
 get changes to "take"???
 Thanks...




RE: [newbie] Im listening on some wierd tcp ports..

1999-08-31 Thread Ken Wilson

In some client/server relationships where they only run on one specific
machine the server opens a port internally for the client to connect to.
This does not necessarily mean these ports are accessible from outside I
don't think.  One has to remember that the client/server relationship is
not exclusive to programs that use networks or the internet to
communicate.

Maybe someone else has another spin on this or, if Gnome is the
*cuplprit*, there may be something in the Gnome documentation.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Fisher
 Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:30 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Im listening on some wierd tcp ports..


 Okay, wierd, they are in use by GNOME's panel and other panel
 applets...
 why do they listen on a port that accepts connections from
 anything? and
 why do they need to listen at all.. hmm i guess its like remotely
 configureable or something maybe.  Somebody know?

 Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

 
  lsof -i
 
  On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Justin Fisher wrote:
 
   a piece of `netstat -a`
  
   tcp0  0 *:3446  *:*
   LISTEN
   tcp0  0 *:3384  *:*
   LISTEN
   tcp0  0 *:3380  *:*
   LISTEN
   tcp0  0 *:3379  *:*
   LISTEN
   tcp0  0 *:3378  *:*
   LISTEN
   tcp0  0 *:3377  *:*
   LISTEN
  
  
   Whats on those???
  
   Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
  --
  MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
  --Axalon
 




RE: [newbie] Opening Windows Files

1999-08-31 Thread Ken Wilson

Run the linux fdisk command on each of your harddrives, i.e. 'fdisk
/dev/hda', 'fdisk /dev/hdb', etc.  Don't use a partition number with the
command.  You will get a menu asking what you want to do next.  Use the
'l' menu item to get a list of each partition and it's type on each of
the disks.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken
 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Opening Windows Files


 On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, you wrote:

   # mount -t umsdos /dev/[whatever-drive-and-partition-for-dos]
   /mnt/[whatever-directory-you-want-the-dos-partition-mounted-at]
  
   (all on one line).
 
   Negative, umsdos requires utilitys and preperation beyond
 just a mount
  command.
 
  groupadd vfat
  edit the fstab everyline that has vfat in it replace "defaults" with
  "defaults,g=vfat,umask=002"
 
  --
  MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
  --Axalon
 OK - I tried the responses that I received to my question
 about mounting the
 fat partition.
 In the console, as root, I typed groupadd vfat. Then I went
 to my /etc/fstab
 file to edit the vfat lines in it except there was no mention
 of vfat anywhere
 in the file. I believe that my fat partition is hda1, but I'm
 not sure. That's
 the way it's setup in the partition tables anyway. So now my
 question is
 1. How do I determine what the partition table looks like in
 Linux, I assume
 that my fat partition is hda1, but I'm not entirely certain.
 I should be able to make it work with this information. I
 tried several
 different variations on the mount command and not one of them
 worked, so I must
 be specifying the wrong partition. Thanks, Ken




RE: [newbie] Opening Windows Files

1999-08-30 Thread Ken Wilson

If you know what partitions they're on just add the following to your
/etc/fstab file.  This will mount those partitions every time you boot
up Linux.

/dev/hda2 /mydocs vfat rw,user,conv=auto 0 0

Substitute you proper partition number for the /hda2 as shown above.
Use a mount name of your choice in place of /mydocs.  The options shown
here, in order, are readable/writeable, user mountable (don' need to be
root to mount) and automatic conversion of the DOS cr/lf to unix eol
when moving text files back and forth between the two file systems.

I don't know if there's a man page on fstab, I haven't looked.  Check if
there is.  If so, it will give you a lot more information about the
different filesystem types and the various options.  You may want to
check into the options that prevent people from trying to run
executables on these partitions.

Caveats: - use vfat over msdos, vfat allows the use of long filenames
while msdos constrains you to the usual 8.3
 - separate the different sections with tabs rather than spaces.
I'm not sure it's necessarily critical with fstab but some Linux config
files/tables show a definite preference for tabs

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken
 Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Opening Windows Files


 Can someone please explain how to mount the fat partition
 from Linux so that I
 can access all of those office files while running Linux. Or
 do I just need to
 copy them to disk and open them in SO? Thanks




RE: [newbie] Opening Windows Files

1999-08-30 Thread Ken Wilson

Try the command this way

mount -t vfat /dev/hdax /mnt/dos (rw,user)

The user option may make it available to a user.  I won't bet on it
though as I'd be suspcious about losing the setting if you logged out as
root and logged back in as user.  My own preference would be to put the
necessary instructions in /etc/fstab so that this is taken care of
automatically by mounting it for you on bootup or at least making it
user mountable if not pre-mounted.  You may also want to consider adding
the option 'conv=auto' in case you're dealing with plain text files.
The way DOS and Unix handle the end of a line are signifigantly
different to cause you a headache if you don't have the appropriate
changes made when moving the file from MSDOS to Linux or vice versa.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Schussman
 Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:46 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Opening Windows Files


  mount -t vfat /dev/hdax /mnt/dos (replace hdax with the
  device where your DOS partition is.)

 It works fine for me, with one exception: the directory to
 which I mount
 my windows partition is only writeable by root, even if I
 chmod it after I
 mount the partition. Has anybody experienced that?

 -Alan





RE: [newbie] tar and gunzip troubles

1999-08-29 Thread Ken Wilson

Try doing it from a console, not the file manager window.

tar xvfz filename.gz

or, if you've already unzipped it

tar xvf filename.gz

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 5:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] tar and gunzip troubles


 Well I tried doing all those things, and it still wont work.
 I just get a
 gear looking icon where the gunzip file was. And if i try to
 un-tar that, i
 dont get anything. It says its not a supported file type, or
 something to
 that extent. I dont know what to do!

 thank you
 jerrud




RE: [newbie] updates icon

1999-08-28 Thread Ken Wilson

I think the Mandrake Updates is a separate rpm.  Make sure you have it
installed on your system.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Linnertz
 Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:15 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] updates icon


 Subject: updates icon
 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:20:04 -0500
 From: Todd Linnertz [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 When I click the updates button on the KDE desktop I get an
 error: Could not
 execute program MandrakeUpdate.  What is this suppose to do
 and how do I get
 it to work?

 Thanks,
 Todd Linnertz




RE: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems

1999-08-24 Thread Ken Wilson

Who cares what a coward uses.  If you believe so strongly in your
statements, next time sign your name.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 6.0 Install Problems


   I had to stop using the Mandrake distribution all together,
 it was just too much trouble to bother with.  I now use the
 *OFFICAL* RedHat ditribution, and I've had absolutely  no problems.




[newbie] Just a bit of Professionalism

1999-08-24 Thread Ken Wilson

Soapbox Mode On
I realize many of us are switching to Linux due to what we percieve as
shortcoming of other operating systems, Windows in particular it seems.
Even though we all have our pieves with Microsoft for whatever reason
does it really add any credibility to what we have to say if we can only
refer to the aformentioned company in a slanderous way, i.e. Windoze.

I put this to you, would you be happy campers if someone kept referring
to your favourite distribution of Linux as Manduck?

I am currently working in both worlds, Windows and Linux.  I have tried
two flavours of Linux, RedHat 5.2 and now Mandrake 6.0  I have lived
with various operating systems from MS-DOS 3.3, through Windows 3.1 to
Windows 95.  If you want a real slug of an operating system try a Radio
Shack Color Computer II running OS9.  They all had one thing in common,
they were operating systems for a computer and all had their strong
points and weak points in their given venue.

Whether we like Bill Gates and his strong arm marketing tactics and/or
the fact that some of his programmers couldn't program a toaster with
with both hands and a library of manuals is irrelevant.  It was through
his effort and those at IBM that we had the explosion of computers
available for home and business desktops.

I work in both worlds right now because I am in the process of studying
to be a professional in the IT business.  I find both sytems provide me
with two ways of looking at a problem. And, the reality is, when I go
out to work as a consultant, programmer or whatever I realize that
market constraints and position will probably dictate that I will have
to be competent with Microsoft and the various flavours of unices.

My apologies to those who understand that you can hang on to your
beliefs without belittling the efforts of the other guy.  This wasn't
meant for you.

Soapbox Mode Off

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')



RE: [newbie] strange messages

1999-08-24 Thread Ken Wilson

The listserver might have hiccupped.  I got them too, although I also
saw my original e-mails come through in the normal list traffic.  I
don't think it's anything for the list users to worry about.  The people
at Mandrake may or may not be concerned however.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manny Styles
 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:44 PM
 To: Newbie Mandrake
 Subject: [newbie] strange messages


 I'm not sure if this is just me, but as of today, I have been getting
 messages returned to me that appear to be going to the
 mailing list.  I
 resent my messages just in case (so if you have seen my
 messages twice,
 forgive me).  The subject line is "Messgae not deliverable",
 and it is from
 Administrator at ISC7 ... CC'ed to administrator(IEC2).  Is
 anyone else
 having this problem?

 Manny Styles
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---

 
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 Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
 http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html




RE: [newbie] Linux and windows98

1999-08-24 Thread Ken Wilson

Back up what is already on the partition, split the partition up,
restore the windows stuff back on the partition you set up for it.

Some people swear by Partition Magic, it allegedly can resize your
partitions non-destructively.  You may want to look into it.  I know a
limited version of it came with either McMillan's or the official
Mandrake distribution.

Caveat: Make sure the version of Partition Magic you use is as current
as you can get.  And do the back up before you do any re-partition just
for insurance.  I used an earlier version on a 13 gig hard drive and it
choked, something about DOS or the BIOS not being able to handle a drive
over 8 gig or something.  To say the least, everything on the drive was
trashed.  The backup saved the day.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brett
 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 4:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Linux and windows98


 Hello:
 I just bought a Compaq PC with a 13 Gb hard drive and
 pre-installed
 win98.  Currently, the hard drive is set up with a 2 Gb
 partition and an
 11 Gb partition (both win98).  I would like to take part of the 11Gb
 partition (say 7 Gb) and set it aside for Mandrake Linux 6.0.
  How would
 I go about doing this without destroying what already exists
 on the hard
 drive?

 Thanks.

 -TB




RE: [newbie] Uninstalling PAM

1999-08-23 Thread Ken Wilson

I don't understand your aversion to PAM and won't try to guess.  Before
you uninstall PAM maybe read up on it's purpose.  The following two URLs
has a very good information on PAM.

 http://temp.redhat.com/linux-info/pam/index.html
 http://temp.redhat.com/linux-info/pam/why_not_pam.html


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Fisher
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 12:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Uninstalling PAM


 how do i uninstall the PAM package the best way?  anyone ever
 tried to do
 this?  Anyone a really big fan of pam... i personally think its a huge
 waste and i dont like it at all.




RE: [newbie] rpms for gcc?

1999-08-23 Thread Ken Wilson

Can you be specific with some of the error messages you are getting when
you try to compile?  This would give us a better idea of what may be
missing.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] rpms for gcc?


 what rpms do i need to install to get gcc to work?  i have several
 installed but i cant get it to work right.  any info or tips?

 :P




RE: [newbie] Lilo

1999-08-23 Thread Ken Wilson

I fail to see why it won't as long as Lilo remains the first thing your
system sees as soon as the BIOS is finished its magic.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil P.
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 2:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo


 If at installation I didn't put lilo in the MBR can I still
 have it default
 to DOS if I change the lilo.conf to be the dos partition
 first and I rerun
 lilo??
 let me know
 thanks
 neil


 thanks
 neil
 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:24 AM
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Lilo


  To re-run lilo you run '/sbin/lilo' at the command prompt
 as root.  And
  yes, it does matter if you put Lilo in the mbr.  Having
 Lilo in the mbr
  allows you to run a multiple boot system.
 
  Ken Wilson
  First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
  irrelevant
  (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil P.
   Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 10:30 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo
  
  
   I don't know what it means to rerun lilo after editing?
   Explain. Also, does
   it matter whether or not I put lilo in my MBR or not during
   installation of
   linux 6.0?
   because I didn't do that. I put it on my linux hard drive
   instead of the dos
   hard drive (my MBR).
  
   -out
   neil
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 6:02 PM
   Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo
  
  
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Neil P. wrote:
   
 wait I don't understand. I moved the Dos label above the
   linux and it
   still
 didn't work. I don't have a line that says default=linux
   or default=dos
 am I suppossed to add that somewhere? Do I put that line
   right above the
 label=dos line?
  let me know
 thanks for the help

 -out
 neil

 From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 5:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Lilo


  On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Neil P. wrote:
 
   How do you change the  lilo bootup to automatically
   startup the DOS
 paritition by default instead of linux? what file do i
   edit and what do
   i
 edit it to?
  
 
  Opps, hit send and forgot to mention. You will need to
   rerun lilo
   after
  the edit
   
"You will need to rerun lilo after the edit" you did this?
   
The very top line,  of your lilo.conf says something like?
default=dos
   
--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon
   
  
  
 




RE: [newbie] Does Linux use the Bios for Harddrives?

1999-08-22 Thread Ken Wilson

That's actually a good question.  My thought would be that as the
partitions are all formatted you shouldn't need to re-format any of
them, including /.  The problem would be that anything in the upgrade
that belongs in those partitions will overwrite anything it has to at
will anyway.

For stuff I've downloaded and added myself I usually try to make sure it
goes into /usr/local which I have on a separate partition.  I also have
a partition called /misc1 which I have subdivided with various
directories and I put source files and things like that on there.  It
keeps them safe from re-installs and upgrades while making backup
strategy easier to figure out.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joel VanderWerf
 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 12:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Does Linux use the Bios for Harddrives?


 Matt Stegman wrote:
 ...
  The only reason you'd want to separate out /home is a) if your root
  partition becomes corrupted, you can still preserve your
 personal files
  and b) if you need to upgrade, you don't lose everything
 when you format
  the root partition.

 Something I've been wondering about: Let's say you have /, /usr, and
 /home partitions and you decide to upgrade. When you do the
 CD install,
 you say "No, please don't format /usr and /home, but go ahead
 and format
 /", right? You don't want to lose all those apps you've carefully
 downloaded.

 But what about the files from the CD that go to /usr, such as all the
 X11 stuff? Will the installer replace the old files in /usr
 with the new
 ones? Or will it put them in the /usr directory in the same
 partition as
 /?

 --

 Joel VanderWerf
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [newbie] Mandrake vs. Macmillan

1999-08-21 Thread Ken Wilson

A full Mandrake release will cost you between $40 and $60 more dollars
but you will also get the Power Pack CD's which don't come with
McMillan's release.  And I will agree heartily with you, the Mandrake
Manual, as you call it, is just a very basic setup guide.  To get
anything of value to help you grow with the McMillan release you have to
access the three on-line books on the third CD.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toby Sheets
 Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 2:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Mandrake vs. Macmillan


 About a week back I mentioned that I was dissatisfied with
 the Mandrake
 manual. Well, it turns out I have a Macmillan Mandrake release. Does
 this mean I don't have the real Mandrake manuals?

 Also, oddly enough (and disappointing) I can't register my Mandrake
 Linux with Mandrake - I have to reg with Macmillan. Should I
 return this
 package and go with a true Mandrake release for the setup support?

 Toby




RE: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]

1999-08-21 Thread Ken Wilson

I guess it is possible.  Another reason to add to my arsenal of excuses
to continue migrating all my work at home from Windows to Linux.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
 Scottaline
 Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 6:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future]


 Anyone catch this story??  Could have been Rick Fry's problemo, no??
 about:http://cnnfn.com/1999/08/20/technology/wires/microsoft_wg/

 Mike   ;o)

 
 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
 http://webmail.netscape.com.




RE: [newbie] Getting rid of PAM

1999-08-21 Thread Ken Wilson

Why would you want to uninstall PAM?  As I understand it PAM is
necessary for password authentication on a Linux system.  I may be wrong
on this.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Justin Fisher
 Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 12:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Getting rid of PAM


 is there any good way to uninstall PAM from mandrake 6.0?

 Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





RE: [newbie] no such device!

1999-08-21 Thread Ken Wilson

I'm not with Rogers but on home through Shaw.  We got 3Com cards when we
were set up.  I can't remember the exact model at the moment.

Anyway, to make a long story short.  If you're not afraid to open your
computer up take a good look at the nic and get the brand name, any
model names, and any model numbers on the major chips on it.  This
should help you to identify the card.

I'd help you with configuring it but I haven't had to so I don't know
enough to point you in the right direction there.  When I installed
Mandrake the detection of the card went flawlessly and all I had to tell
it to do was use dhcp to obtain this system's ip address.

I think you will have to use 'netcfg' from root to set things up.  There
may be a man page on it you can refer to.  It may also be in one of the
many how-to documents.  Take a look through /usr/doc to see what you can
find.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 10:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] no such device!


 Heres my problem: I have filled out all the information about
 connecting to the internet via an ethernet card for the @home
 network. I have a 16 bit Ethernet Card. When I finished
 filling out all
 the information the konsole displayed the message" unknown
 interface: no such device delaying eth0 intilization"

 If anyone has any ideas of how I can correct this and/or if you know
 what type of 16 bit ethernet cards were handed out by Rogers
 about 2 years ago that would be great.

 Struggling newbie
 Jerome
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

Flame thrower locked and loaded.  hehehe

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Fry
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 7:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere
 
 
 I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
 It's totally FUCKING USELESS
 Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
 losers are just wasting your lives.
 
 --
 --
 Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com 
 



RE: [newbie] Red Hat Security Notices

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

I am not an expert but my initial thoughts would be that you might
want to get the source files rather than the RPM's.  My line on this
one is that the RedHat RPM is compiled for the i386.  I am assumming
that there would be something in the configuration setup of the
source for compiling it with i586 optimizations, thereby keeping it
in line with the current philosophy of an operating system optimized
for the i586.

Just my thoughts.  I welcome any corrections to this thinking anyone
more knowledgeable might add to this.

Also, one might want to check the Mandrake update list to see if
this has possibly been handled and is available as an i586 RPM.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Gellatly
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:06 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Red Hat Security Notices


 Question:  Can or should Mandrake 6.0 users install security patches from
 Red Hat, such as the one that was released this morning?  The notice
 follows:

 Red Hat, Inc. Security Advisory

   Package
 in.telnetd

   Synopsis
 Denial of service attack in in.telnetd

   Advisory ID
 RHSA-1999:029-01

   Issue Date
 1999-08-19

   Updated on

   Keywords
 telnet telnetd



   1. Topic:
   A denial of service attack has been fixed in in.telnetd.

   2. Bug IDs fixed:
   4560

   3. Relevant releases/architectures:
   Red Hat Linux 6.0, all architectures

   4. Obsoleted by:
   None

   5. Conflicts with:
   None

   6. RPMs required:

   Intel:

   ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/i386/

   telnet-0.10-29.i386.rpm

   Alpha:

   ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/alpha

   telnet-0.10-29.alpha.rpm

   SPARC:

   ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/sparc

   telnet-0.10-29.sparc.rpm

   Source:

   ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/SRPMS

   telnet-0.10-29.src.rpm

   Architecture neutral:

  ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/noarch/

  7. Problem description:
  in.telnetd attempts to negotiate a compatible terminal type between the
local and remote host.
  By setting the TERM environment variable before connecting, a remote
user could cause the
  system telnetd to open files it should not. Depending on the TERM
setting used, this could lead
  to denial of service attacks.

  Thanks go to Michal Zalewski and the Linux Security Audit team for
noting this vulnerability.

  8. Solution:
  For each RPM for your particular architecture, run:

  rpm -Uvh

  where filename is the name of the RPM.

  9. Verification:

   MD5 sum   Package Name

-
  4360d47490f13d60b8737d28dc88825a  i386/telnet-0.10-29.i386.rpm
  90213fcdca41a3ed12ab7d92344e7286  alpha/telnet-0.10-29.alpha.rpm
  277787dbc39dff8ea84d4b16dcb7a954  sparc/telnet-0.10-29.sparc.rpm
  269783a0754d234f7bef0f4717a8dbc2  SRPMS/telnet-0.10-29.src.rpm






  These packages are also PGP signed by Red Hat Inc. for security. Our key
is available at:
  http://www.redhat.com/corp/contact.html

  You can verify each package with the following command:

  rpm --checksig filename

  If you only wish to verify that each package has not been corrupted or
tampered with, examine
  only the md5sum with the following command:

  rpm --checksig --nopgp filename

  10. References:

Erik Gellatly
Salem, Oregon



RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

I'm actually using Outlook98 as my mail reader so the comment about
/dev/null was actually more tongue-in-cheek.  It comes with a
configurable junk mail filter.

Now, to answer your question.

There is an anti-spam filter, I believe it is called clean, available
on your Mandrake distribution.  I don't think it works with sendmail
but is designed to work with one of the other mail servers available
on the distribution, which is probably a good thing because my
understanding is that sendmail is, excuse the expression, a bitch to
configure.

I know it's becoming a little cliche but check through the Linux docs,
or, if we are lucky, maybe one of the more enlightened souls can clue
us in on the use of this tool.

BTW, for those who don't know /dev/null actually exists.  It is a kind
of cyber black hole you can actually direct output to when you
don't want to see it, i.e. a program may create output that you don't
really need so you just redirect it to /dev/null so it doesn't bother
you.  i.e.

 [user somedirectory] # thisprogramprintsjunk  /dev/null

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
 
 
 
 
 Do you put this in /etc/hosts.deny?
 
 Thanks,
 Bryan
 
 
 
 
 
 "Ken Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/20/99 12:19:24 PM
 
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings)
 Subject:  RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
 
 
 
 
 Not a problem.  I flamed him at his hotmail account instead of
 here and then promptly added *@hotmail.com to my list of junk
 senders that automatically go to /dev/null.  :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nick Kay
  Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 8:20 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere - IGNORE THIS TROLL!
 
 
  This guy is trolling you all.
  (for the newbies a troll is someone
  who instigates flamewars by using
  inflammatory language)
 
  Please don't pander to his wishes by responding.
 
  (Ithought I sniffed a troll the other day ; )
 
  ttfn
  nick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



RE: [newbie] one more newbie question.

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

Give the distribution that comes with the book a try.  If you find you
like Linux then look at getting a newer version.  The advantage of the
newer versions is that a lot of the setup has been simplified and the
usual bug fixes are in place.

You might want to aim your book purchase at one that has a distribution
that is relatively current, RedHat 5.1, or the latest Caldera.

Another option is buying a distribution of Mandrake that McMillan
Publishing puts out.  It comes with a CD with 3 on-line books.  The
rub here though is that you either have to be running windows and use
Adobe Acrobat to read them or get your Linux up and running and then
install Acrobat from the CD.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Schofield
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 1:26 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] one more newbie question.
 
 
 
 I have a question. 
 
 If I get a book with a CD rom in.. say 1.3 of Open linux or 5.0 or 5.1 of
 Redhat.
 
 Is it not worth my while to get that up and running at all?? 
 
 If all I am using the machine for it personal use .. internet etc.. with
 these distros work fine for what a personal user needs??
 
 So is the upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2 like win 95 to 98.. they both 
 work.. just
 one will work better?? or does 2.0 have problems that I will find??
 
 James
 



RE: [newbie] REAL Linux Question!!

1999-08-20 Thread Ken Wilson

Make it a shell script by burying it in a file called 'othernet.sh', or
any name of your choice.  The text you want to type into the file goes
like this

 #!/bin/sh
 telnet other.net.com

Store the file in /usr/local/bin and then cd to /usr/local/bin and type
'chmod 766 othernet.sh'

Now I'm not so sure about linking it to the desktop.  If it works ala
Windows use the visual file manager to go to /usr/local/bin.  From there
you should be able to drag the file to the desktop.

This doesn't take care of your kppp problem though.  That I'm unfamiliar
with because I'm on cable and haven't had to look at that aspect of
Linux.

I would also look at the hidden directories and files while I'm in the
visual file manager.  There may be a way of dragging the link that loads
ktelnet to the desktop.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of hevnsnt
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] REAL Linux Question!!


 My girlfriend has been b*tching at me to put windows back on
 my machine
 because she cant figure out how to connect to the internet
 (no matter how
 many times I show her) I am wondering if there is a way to
 make an icon in
 KDE to:

 1) Start the Kppp Dialer
 2) telnet to another specified machine


 Or

 Make Kppp start whenever outside traffic is requested.


 Now,

 I cant even figure out how to make an Icon to open a terminal
 window and
 pass the command "telnet other.machine.com"

 Can anyone help me?

 P.S. I am not willing to get another girlfriend, I like the
 one I got.  =)

 -Bill





RE: [[newbie] Linux for home consumers?]

1999-08-18 Thread Ken Wilson

You are really aiming at the wrong target here.  Consider two very major
things here.

 1) These programmers produce these wonderful drivers we do have
with no thought of compensation for their time and effort.
 2) You can't program a driver for a piece of hardware if the
hardware manufacturer claims proprietary interests and won't
release the necessary information to make it possible to
program for the hardware.

I might suggest easing up a little here.  For what we pay for Linux,
I personally bought the McMillan distribution of Mandrake, we receive
a value far greater in the view of support and usability than we would
from the makers of the various commercial operating systems.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Fry
 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 4:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [[newbie] Linux for home consumers?]
 
 
 What does it take to write a video card driver that some hotshot 
 unix guru 
 programmer can't come up with? If they can talk the talk, how 
 about trying 
 to walk the walk? I keep hearing about what geniuses inhabit the 
 Unix crowd, 
 how about putting up or shutting up?
 



RE: [newbie] Dummies Books Rock

1999-08-18 Thread Ken Wilson

I have to agree with you.  It's the only thing that got
me through the Cobol section of a programming languages
survey course.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ty Mixon
 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Taking the plunge..
 
 
 Dummies books rock!  I love the irreverent tone they use.  :)
 



RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]

1999-08-17 Thread Ken Wilson

As root run the command /sbin/lilo.  This causes lilo to re-write the lilo
configuration
to the mbr.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph Gardner
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:14 AM
 To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject:  RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]

 What does one mean rerun lilo (I know RTFM, but I don't have my
 books with me 8-))

 Regards,

 Joseph Gardner
 Senior Designer / Technical Support
 Kirby Company
 Cleveland, OH



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Scottaline [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 6:42 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, here goes. After I installed Win98 B, (i had to do it, it was
 for work) I

 lost LILO. Now, i am forced to Windoze. And get this: in 15 min of use, i
 crashed 3 times! One time was just because i maxemized a window!
 At any rate,

 how do i get LILO back so i can enjoy my computer once more?


 thanks
 jerrud
 ICQ# 13978481
 =
 Windows loves to totally trash the old mbr when it installs.
 That's why it is
 always recommended to install windows first.
 For now, boot with a boot or rescue disk.  When you get into
 linux, rerun lilo
 from a command line.  That should fix things, I believe. :-)
 Mike

 winmail.dat


RE: [newbie] Re-installed Win98 - Lost LILO -- How to re-install????

1999-08-17 Thread Ken Wilson

If you made a boot disk for Linux per the installation instructions
use it to boot Linux and then run lilo to reinstall your loader on the
mbr.

If you didn't make a boot disk then I'm afraid you'll have to re-install,
unless someone is aware of some other way of getting around this.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael P. Wheat
 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 5:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Re-installed Win98 - Lost LILO -- How to
 re-install


 Yes, I did re-install Win98 ---  use it for games ;-)

 I guess when you install Win98 is automatically overwrites the MBR (sure
 would be nice if it would at least ask permission).  I would like to get
 LILO back so I can get back to my Linux install.

 ...

 I really don't want to have to re-install to get back to Unix... I do that
 enough with Windows ;-)



RE: [newbie] Linux drive disappeared!

1999-08-16 Thread Ken Wilson

Windows will not recognize your Linux partitions.  Also, your drive
designation in Windows is not arbitrary.  If you remove a drive it once had
by partitioning it for another file system it will just redesignate the
drives that are left, keeping them in alphabetic sequence.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of brandon
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 6:17 PM
 To: mandrake-linux support
 Subject: [newbie] Linux drive disappeared!


 I am running Linux and Windows 98 on the same computer but on different
 hard drives.  After setting aside a 2.1 Gb drive ( drive D:\ ) for the
 Linux OS, I installed Linux successfully.  But when I go into windows,
 it seems to not recognize the drive where I am storing the Linux OS.
 What was drive E now becomes drive D.  And now,  when I open My
 Computer, both the E: drive and F: drives have the cd-rom icon.
 Originally, my F: drive is my CD-ROM drive.

 How do I make Windows recognize the Linux drive?  Or is there another
 way to solve this problem??

 thanks,

 Brandon




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