Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
Hi, I still have them here if you still need them - but I don't have a server where you can download them, what snailmail address do you have ? On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:11, you wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly appreciate it. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Stephen Kitchener Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
Thanks, that's just what I needed :) On Tue, 2001-12-25 at 00:28, Grant Fraser wrote: http://linux.unige.ch/install/mandrake/7.2/iso/ http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/7.2/iso/i586/8.1/ On Monday 24 December 2001 20:11, you wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly appreciate it. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 24 December 2001 20:11, you wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly appreciate it. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 7.2 iso's
i don't know if these are the latest ftp://linux.mty.itesm.mx/pub/mirrors/mandrake they are at my local university at Mexico
Re: [newbie] 7.2 iso's
Why not use 8.0? 7.2 is quite old now, having been released around October last year. All 7.2 final (i.e. not beta) isos are the same -- they were created for the 7.2 release. You are supposed to install these and use MandrakeUpdate to update the installation to the newest packages. On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a ftp server that I could snatch the 2 iso's for 7.2? I am looking for the newest ones besides the first run that had problems.Please let me know via the list or direct e-mail, thanks in advance. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] 7.2 complete does not give lnx4win option
CICVET, Have you tried loading the disk while you are running windows? This should bring up a window allowing you to install lin4win. That is how I did it. Hope this helps. J On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:35:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the manual shows a screen with options such as recommended mode. the opening screen states that by typing lnx4win at the prompt, that it will happen. it doesn't. i am given the choice of erase disk (which would wipe out my w98) or expert mode (which i'm not). until i buy another box, i need to use lnx4win. help, please. thanks. ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install question
the addresses should be ok, the Mandrake installation program have partition utilities you will probably be asked to use. The major part is to resize windows without lossing any data. Then I would use the free space to install linux with the given installer. I don't remember the 7.2 installation, but they should let you boot from floppy drive and without floppy for windows, by selecting fd0 instead. On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Jeffery Chapman wrote: I've created a partition and swap file space on my secondary harddrive. I used Partition Magic to create the partitions. The harddisk now looks like this: |--- windows ---||--- linux part ---||--- linux swap ---| | /dev/hdb1 || /dev/hdb2|| /dev/hdb3| Questions: 1) Am I correct on the /dev/ addresses? 2) Will the Mandrake installation program recognize the linux partitions I've created as the place to install linux? Currently there is nothing in the partitions. The documentation is a bit fuzy in this area. Will the install program ask me where to install? I'm not the only user of the PC and I really do not want to risk destroying any data in the first partition. 3) If I do a custom install, will I be prompted on whether or not to install a bootloader or can I just skip the step? I don't want to install GRUB or have it automatically installed. Thanks.
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install question
I haven't had a chance to try 8.0 yet, but with an expert install in 7.2 you will be allowed to choose if you want Lilo, Grub, or none. Also you will be able to choose how your hard drive is partitioned or (if you already have partitions), which partitions to use for linux. So long as you have an understanding of your hardware and how you want your system set up, you should be able to do everything you want with the Expert install. I'd be very surprised if that has changed in 8.0. I'm confident you will be fine. Err... just noticed in your subject that you are talking about 7.2 after all. I'm such a moron. In short, Yes! You can do all of which you ask. Have fun. --- Jeffery Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've created a partition and swap file space on my secondary harddrive. I used Partition Magic to create the partitions. The harddisk now looks like this: |--- windows ---||--- linux part ---||--- linux swap ---| | /dev/hdb1 || /dev/hdb2|| /dev/hdb3 | Questions: 1) Am I correct on the /dev/ addresses? 2) Will the Mandrake installation program recognize the linux partitions I've created as the place to install linux? Currently there is nothing in the partitions. The documentation is a bit fuzy in this area. Will the install program ask me where to install? I'm not the only user of the PC and I really do not want to risk destroying any data in the first partition. 3) If I do a custom install, will I be prompted on whether or not to install a bootloader or can I just skip the step? I don't want to install GRUB or have it automatically installed. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install problem - Cdrom X-server
If you're unsure about what X you're running, you can bring up a terminal a type: X -version It will tell you what version you are running. If you are not happy with that version, you can easily install the other version by typing the following in a terminal: XFdrake -expert Just answer the simple questions and you're set. As far as your cdrom(s?), your situation is a bit unclear. It appears you have cdrom and cdrom1 both linked to scd0. That looks like a problem. But I wonder if you truly have to cd devices. Do you have a burner AND a cdrom? Or just the burner? If you have only one device, rm /dev/cdrom1. If you have two, then you probably need to link cdrom1 to scd1. rm /dev/cdrom1 ln -s scd1 /dev/cdrom1 Anyway, I think you're getting your I/O error because you have two devices linked to scd0. However, I'm not sure that you truly have two drives. It is quite possible that when you installed your burner during your mandrake install, that mandrake incorrectly created two devices for your burner. That happens to me. I have no idea why john is the owner and that does indeed seem bizarre. Going back to the problem with X: If you find that you are running X 4, you may want to revert to X 3. Videocards supported in X 3 are not necessarily supported in X 4. However, it might also be worth the effort of upgrading to the latest X 4 (X 4.0.3) to see if that helps. --- John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally took the plunge and installed 7.2. Installation was uneventful other than the soundcard not being found. that was fixed without hassle. However. there are two problems .. Problem A) Cdrom is inaccessible despite running through the Cdburner tutorial pages. Error message as user or root: [john@john john]$ ls /mnt/cdrom ls: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error [john@john john]$ Permissions from /dev [root@john /dev]# ls -l cdr* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Apr 21 20:19 cdrom - /dev/scd0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Apr 21 15:09 cdrom1 - /dev/scd0 [root@john /dev]# ls -l scd* brw-rw1 john cdrom 11, 0 Sep 27 2000 scd0 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 1 Sep 27 2000 scd1 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 2 Sep 27 2000 scd2 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 3 Sep 27 2000 scd3 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 4 Sep 27 2000 scd4 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 5 Sep 27 2000 scd5 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 6 Sep 27 2000 scd6 brw-rw1 john cdwriter 11, 7 Sep 27 2000 scd7 I don't understand why user john should own /dev/scd(?), so far I haven't dared to change the ownership Fstab as follows: - /dev/hdc5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda7 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /root/ ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdd5 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /usr2 ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /usr3 ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 - Problem B) X-Server (I think) - I cannot see where the issue is: My Vidcard is an S3 Virge DX with 4mb Ram, the monitor a CTX 1451, resolution 16-bit 800x600; these two have been working together without fault thru LM6.x and until I installed LM7.2, (and obviously with that other opsys). I think (grin), that I selected XFree 4, can't be sure as I have both XF86Config AND XF86Config-4 in /etc/X11. I cannot start X automatically (init 5) as the monitor (Or vidcard) goes directly to a ?powersave? mode. When I login to the CLI (init 3), I can startx and run KDE without problems, however if/when I exit from KDE I have the same problem as above and the only way I can regain control is either a three-finger-salute or hard reset. Ctrl-Alt-Del restarts without causing me any hassles. Can someone point me to some help here, I know I've seen it covered before but haven't been able to find the references. Cheers John --- The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install problems
Paul Becker wrote: Hi, I did a fresh install of 7.2 on my machine (P233, 64M, AT3D voodoo card) and I had a strange problem... When the graphical login screen comes up, the mouse cursor is a black square. if I touch the mouse at all, the monitor goes to standby then comes back to a fresh login screen. If I ignore the mouse and just type my username password into the boxes, tab down to go and hit the spacebar, I can see the button push in, then the screen does exactly the same thing. I'm then back at the login screen. I nuked 7.2 and installed 7.1, which works with no apparent problems. Has anyone seen this before? I suspect it is something with my video card driver or my mouse driver, but I can't pin it down. Since 7.1 works, I'm not in any panic, but when the next version comes out I'd like to not be afraid to try it. Thanks, Paul PaulI believe that if you were to reinstall 7.2 and choose the 3.3.6 version of XF86 rather than allowing the default 4.01 vertsion to be installed that your problems with 7.2 would cease to exist. -- Alan
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install problems
Ok, I'd like to try it since I haven't customized 7.1 too much yet. Which install option should I choose? Intermediate or Expert? Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: "Alan Shoemaker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Paul Becker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 install problems Paul Becker wrote: Hi, I did a fresh install of 7.2 on my machine (P233, 64M, AT3D voodoo card) and I had a strange problem... When the graphical login screen comes up, the mouse cursor is a black square. if I touch the mouse at all, the monitor goes to standby then comes back to a fresh login screen. If I ignore the mouse and just type my username password into the boxes, tab down to go and hit the spacebar, I can see the button push in, then the screen does exactly the same thing. I'm then back at the login screen. I nuked 7.2 and installed 7.1, which works with no apparent problems. Has anyone seen this before? I suspect it is something with my video card driver or my mouse driver, but I can't pin it down. Since 7.1 works, I'm not in any panic, but when the next version comes out I'd like to not be afraid to try it. Thanks, Paul PaulI believe that if you were to reinstall 7.2 and choose the 3.3.6 version of XF86 rather than allowing the default 4.01 vertsion to be installed that your problems with 7.2 would cease to exist. -- Alan
RE: [newbie] 7.2 install freezes at PCMCIA on Dell Inspiron 8000
I had the same problem with my Toshiba Satellite 4900CDX; the problem was that in the BIOS the PCMCIA detection was in automatic; just put it in manual (you must first acced to your bios setup) and everything must run. I hope this help you Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: "Prasad V. S. Alavilli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Mircoles, Febrero 7, 2001 10:44 pm Asunto: [newbie] 7.2 install freezes at PCMCIA on Dell Inspiron 8000 I am installing 7.2 on a Dell Inspiron 8000 notebook but everything freezes very quickly once it gets to detecting/configuring PCMCIA cards. The screen says something about SCSI detection and that I would get options if nothing is auto-detected, but it never returns. Machine: P-III, ATI Rage M4 32Mb, Xircom realport 10/100, 56k combo card. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Prasad
RE: [newbie] 7.2 rpm
just updated rpm drake now when i do a scan it tells me nfs files are not set correctly can any one help please keith
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Installation - System hangs after reboot
I think that's GRUB the boot loader hanging. I had it happen too and I put the install disc in again and did an "upgrade" install and it fixed itself. There might be a better way though. --Matt White Bear Lake, MN - Original Message - From: "KishoreKolli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: [newbie] 7.2 Installation - System hangs after reboot Hi All, I have gone thru the 7.2 install GUI (booted from the floppy) from the iso images available on the web. No problems with the install. When the pc reboots, it comes back up and displays "stage1" and hangs. I don't know what to do to correct it. I have gone thru the install couple of times and nothing seems to make a difference. Running a AST Bravo Pentium 133MHz, 96MB Ram. I have two physical drives and am trying to install Linux as the only operating system. Please Help Thanks Kishore Sr. Programmer. Sabre, Inc.
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Installation - System hangs after reboot
On Monday 22 January 2001 17:46, you wrote: Hi All, I have gone thru the 7.2 install GUI (booted from the floppy) from the iso images available on the web. No problems with the install. When the pc reboots, it comes back up and displays "stage1" and hangs. I don't know what to do to correct it. I have gone thru the install couple of times and nothing seems to make a difference. Running a AST Bravo Pentium 133MHz, 96MB Ram. I have two physical drives and am trying to install Linux as the only operating system. Please Help Thanks Kishore Sr. Programmer. Sabre, Inc. Well, your booter should have a "failsafe" choice, try that first. I am guessing that the kernel thought it recognized a situation for a fast disk and made some incompatible settings in the ide. Install as you did but add the following to the bootloader install--edit each system that comes up and plug this into the Append line. ide0=noautotune ide1=noautotune idebus=16 If you have PIO set for 33MHz and the chipset can only do 16.6 Anyway that should back the kernel off from optimizing enough to get you going. If it doesn't, then check your cabling and your memory in that order. The boot kernel will use almost all RAM available all of the time, and may be uncovering a defect in a memory chip. More likely, it is a drive cable that has seen too much vibration. Civileme
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Install Woes
On Friday 05 January 2001 16:08, you wrote: I am trying to install 7.2 and after it loads the second stage install it gives me an error message: an error occured insmod'ing module ide-cd failed Any idea how to fix this? TIA Steve I think you are using a hd.img file from cooker or other files from cooker. That was one of their errors for a few days. Otherwise you have a media problem or possibly a drive problem. Civileme And to make a better guess, we need more info. Like are you installing from CD? Where did you get the CDs if so, and a description of procedure used. Civileme
RE: [newbie] 7.2 Install Woes
Thanks! I have it working now. I downloaded the latest install boot images and they fixed the problem. The new problem I am experiencing now is when I do a 100% install of 7.2 I get to cd4 and it reports package headers missing and skips some of the packages. Then quits the install before finishing. This is the store bought version of 7.2. Any ideas or work arounds for this? I also was wondering if there was a install boot image that enables UDMA in Corporate server 1.1? I really like the ease of setup for the Corporate Server but can't seem to get it to recogonize my drives on the ATA100 ports. Thanks for all you help! Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 4:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 Install Woes On Friday 05 January 2001 16:08, you wrote: I am trying to install 7.2 and after it loads the second stage install it gives me an error message: an error occured insmod'ing module ide-cd failed Any idea how to fix this? TIA Steve I think you are using a hd.img file from cooker or other files from cooker. That was one of their errors for a few days. Otherwise you have a media problem or possibly a drive problem. Civileme And to make a better guess, we need more info. Like are you installing from CD? Where did you get the CDs if so, and a description of procedure used. Civileme
RE: [newbie] 7.2 Install Woes
Nevermind fixed it with the updated boot disk Sorry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Gulick Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:08 AM To: newbie@mandrake Subject: [newbie] 7.2 Install Woes I am trying to install 7.2 and after it loads the second stage install it gives me an error message: an error occured insmod'ing module ide-cd failed Any idea how to fix this? TIA Steve
Re: [newbie] 7.2 crash
marcia wrote: Dear All, I purchased vmware not too long ago and finally got the nerve up to begin installing it. After I opened the rpm of vmware 2.00 everything on my screen froze. I waited and waited then finally tried control-alt-backspace, control-alt-delete, and control-alt-esc. Nothing worked so I had to push my reset button. That crashed my Linux and I could not get into X anymore. I tried rescue and that did not work. I had to reinstall Linux. I did it as an expert and used upgrade which worked very well. By the way I, I have Linux Mandrake 7.2. This was the first time that I installed as an expert and from now on I will do it that way if needed. My question is: If everything freezes in that manner is there a way to get to a console screen? None of my control keys worked and the control-alt-F3 did not work. This has happened before many times and I ended up reinstalling many times before. That is fine except I am tired of losing my emails and signing up for Netscape over and over again. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. Marcia Sounds like a dud video card. what happenes is x crashes but it shoulden't take anything with it. Try running Xconfigurator and set your resolution lower and when you install anything from rpm use the command line. rpm -Uvh your rpm My gues is it is a SIS video card let me know if I am right Cheers Stefaans
Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci -- Traci Collins, MA, CCAI, CCNA Professor of Computer Education Colorado Mountain College http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
RE: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
I haven't tried the optical mice on 7.2, but the Intellimouse PRO and other Wheel mice work fine for me. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Traci Collins Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues . "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci -- Traci Collins, MA, CCAI, CCNA Professor of Computer Education Colorado Mountain College http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
I have some cheap wheel mouse: Genius Netscroll. It works perfectly. First I selected MS IW in the config (though the last tiime I was looking around, standard mouse was highlighted), and I put: exec /usr/bin/imwheel -k in my /etc/rc.local file. Running 7.2 with the 2.2.17 kernel and KDE 2.0.0. It even works in Netscape (but I had to do something extra to get that to work.) -s On Tuesday 19 December 2000 09:34 am, you wrote: "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci -- Registered Linux user: #197855
Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
It's quite strange. Although, I select Intellimouse for my mouse, it keeps going back to standard. This has been going on for several releases. It performs like the Intellimouse. However, the graphical shows standard. I guess it must be a default setting? Roman Registered Linux user: #197855 s wrote: I have some cheap wheel mouse: Genius Netscroll. It works perfectly. First I selected MS IW in the config (though the last tiime I was looking around, standard mouse was highlighted), and I put: exec /usr/bin/imwheel -k in my /etc/rc.local file. Running 7.2 with the 2.2.17 kernel and KDE 2.0.0. It even works in Netscape (but I had to do something extra to get that to work.) -s On Tuesday 19 December 2000 09:34 am, you wrote: "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci
Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
I recently purchased one of the Logitech optical mice, ended up returning it. It went crazy on my machine (using the USB-PS2 adapter). I had the same behavior in MDK win9x. On other PCs it worked flawlessly. My regular PS2 Intellimouse w/ ball works great. The best I could figure is my motherboard (Asus p2b) didn't like it for some reason. -- Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cautioninc.com Traci Collins wrote: "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci -- Traci Collins, MA, CCAI, CCNA Professor of Computer Education Colorado Mountain College http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
RE: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
I had a optical mouse go crazy on me too. It flies to the upper right hand corner. I find that if I disable the scrool wheel the behavior stops. But then again, what good is it without use of the wheel. Cheers, Chris Kelly Linux user #185775 -Original Message- From: Joseph Red [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues . I recently purchased one of the Logitech optical mice, ended up returning it. It went crazy on my machine (using the USB-PS2 adapter). I had the same behavior in MDK win9x. On other PCs it worked flawlessly. My regular PS2 Intellimouse w/ ball works great. The best I could figure is my motherboard (Asus p2b) didn't like it for some reason. -- Joseph Red [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cautioninc.com Traci Collins wrote: "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci -- Traci Collins, MA, CCAI, CCNA Professor of Computer Education Colorado Mountain College http://www.rof.net/wp/tcollins/traci.html
RE: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues .
I've noticed the the Xsession startup does not seem to invoke imwheel properly. I ended up adding imwheel -k to Xsetup_0 and got the mouse wheel working this way. Harddrake and Drakconf still thinks it's a Standard Mouse no matter what I do however... This seems to be more of a script issue than anything else. -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 stability , mouse issues . It's quite strange. Although, I select Intellimouse for my mouse, it keeps going back to standard. This has been going on for several releases. It performs like the Intellimouse. However, the graphical shows standard. I guess it must be a default setting? Roman Registered Linux user: #197855 s wrote: I have some cheap wheel mouse: Genius Netscroll. It works perfectly. First I selected MS IW in the config (though the last tiime I was looking around, standard mouse was highlighted), and I put: exec /usr/bin/imwheel -k in my /etc/rc.local file. Running 7.2 with the 2.2.17 kernel and KDE 2.0.0. It even works in Netscape (but I had to do something extra to get that to work.) -s On Tuesday 19 December 2000 09:34 am, you wrote: "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Don't be so quick to blame instabilities on 7.2. I've put it on over 20 different systems without a hiccup on any of them. All have been running without a reboot since installation. Remember: if it really were as problematic as you say, we would all be complaining... Just for the record, I had a similar problem with the Intellimouse driver even after re-formating and a fresh start. I have temporarily reverted back to the basic mouse driver without support for my center wheel but eventually I would like to get full functionality. I have one of the Optical Intellimice, I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, perhaps the driver hasn't been updated to deal with them if they are different than the mechanical ones in their signals. I am also using a Belkin OmniCube 4-Port KVM switch to controll several computers. My mouse went crazy when i came back to the Mandrake box, it was clicking everywhere, wouldn't go more than 1/3 of the screen away from the lower left-hand corner and eventually locked up Gnome and blew it away so that it was no longer available for any user on my system. I'm not blaming, I'm very glad for the people who enjoy writing drivers and provide the breadth of the hardware support we have in Linux. There does seem to be something new going on with the Intellimouse driver with 7.2. Traci
Re: [newbie] 7.2 -- XFree -- is my monitor going to blow up?
hi Paul -- thanks for responding. i checked my config file and it contains ViewPort 0 0 already. does this mean i should try changing those settings? or would my problem be something else? thanks yet again=) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11:39:34 AM 12/7/00 On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Adrian Smith wrote: but the question -- i don't quite know if i can describe this so you will understand, but i will try. =) the very left edge of my monitor (as i'm looking at it) is displaying a very thin slice of whatever is actually about 3-4 inches from the left edge of the screen. thus if i move a window to the very edge, that slice of it will disappear under the display of whatever is 3-4 inches over. hmmm... is that english? i have everything shut down now, but do y'all think this might cause actual damage? Hi Adrian, It looks as if, in XF86Config-4 the viewport of your desktop is virtual. Meaning that it is larger than the physical screen. That causes the strange scrolling behaviour. My XF86Config-4 (the config for Xfree 4) says: Section "Screen" Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Viewport in your file would be larger than the physical screen. Set that to 0 0 and try again (just restart X) And no, this behaviour won't damage your computer. Actually I know people who set that up, and want it! To find out the version of X you run XFree86 -version: [root@internet X11]# XFree86 -version XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 1 July 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.17-21mdksmp i686 [ELF] Module Loader present Good luck! Paul -- You will be reincarnated as a toad. And you will be much happier. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] 7.2 -- XFree -- is my monitor going to blow up?
Try starting x like this:
startx myxlog
and then once x starts, just open up that myxlog that you created and on
the top line it should say which version started on that command
Cody
Adrian Smith wrote:
greetings all.
just installed 7.2 yesterday. the jury is still out but it mostly seems to be
working. my printer works at last tho, happy 'bout that.
but the question -- i don't quite know if i can describe this so you will
understand, but i will try. =) the very left edge of my monitor (as i'm looking at
it) is displaying a very thin slice of whatever is actually about 3-4 inches from the
left edge of the screen. thus if i move a window to the very edge, that slice of it
will disappear under the display of whatever is 3-4 inches over. hmmm... is that
english?
i have everything shut down now, but do y'all think this might cause actual damage?
i had no problems under X3.x. i think i'm using X4 now --("think" they all ask,
while installing i went for 4, it installed, but didn't work out. it kicked me back
and i went for 3, it also installed (so both of them are on the system) and looked
ok. when i type check with the -version switch from a terminal it says version 4,
but how do i know for sure which version is actually running?
i have been thru numereous attempts at reconfiguring both monitor video card, so
far i can't get rid of this strange effect. i'll have to plug at it some more.
so the main thing is how do i check my running vesion of X.
thanks much
Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] 7.2 System sound silence
Mike,
I've looked over what you have done and compared
it with my settings and there is nothing that
really stands out as different. I am running a
SB-128 card which 7.2 detected during install. It
used the ensoniq 1371 driver. I went
through and picked the .wav's I wanted, clicked on
Apply and then OK when I was done. I'm trying to
recall whether they took effect then or after a
reboot, but I'm not sure. Digging through the
Introduction section of the manual wasn't a major
help, although the info on aRts Sound Server was
interesting. The 250msec delay sets the response
time for the CPU. If you go to the 50msec time,
it puts a higher priority on the sound and raises
the resource demand on the CPU. One note is the
duplex setting. I need to keep that in mind when
I get around to play with PC phones.
The www.kde.org site says the KDE2.0.1 is out and
that it fixes many of the bugs, one of them is
related to the aRts Sound Server. I didn't try to
track down the problem. I hope I see it in a
Mandrake compatible RPM shortly.
You mentioned that the Gnome system sounds work,
I'm wondering if Gnome uses the aRts Sound Server
as well. I would imagine it is a common service
for both windows environments, but I haven't
checked it out.
Wish I was more help.
Barry
"Mike Cochrane (MC)" wrote:
I'm still searching for a fix to the system sound mystery. The silence is
deafening. Anybody got ideas!
After installation of Mandrake 7.2 (I come from the RedHat world) and
KDE2.0pre I find everything ticking along fine except "system" sound. All
other sound functions work fine -- within KDE and outside of it.
1. Kmedia player works fine and plays .wavs and songs and etc. under KDE2
2. gtv mp3 players works fine within KDE2
3. cdplayer works fine within KDE2
4. when browsing files in Konqueror, I can point at a .wav file and the
.wav player will pop up and player it.
... so -- KDE and Mandrake proper saw and installed the sound card, but
*system* sounds are dead. (BTW -- when I choose GNOME as the GUI, *their*
system sounds work fine)
I've worked through the system control menus:
1. on the sound server page, aRts is checked to be on at startup (I've
checked it and unchecked it several times, rebooting after each change)
2. 250msecs is selected ("comfortable" -- whatever that's supposed to mean)
3. Nothing else on that page (sound server setup) is checked
4. In LookNFeel I have worked through System Notifications and checked the
sound boxes and assigned a .wav file to every system function (pointing to
files in /usr/share/sound/*.wav).
sowadayathink? Thanks!
Mike
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and no Xserver (solved, sort of)
I don't know if you saw the earlier post, but, I finally determined that the problem had to be in the software. So I went into RPMDrake and tried reloading the KDE packages. Sure enough kdebase, kdeutils, kdeadmin and a couple of others were corrupted or had the wrong gnuphp or something like that. I went to KDE web site an and downloaded fresh packages. Installed with replace files checked and everything seems to be hunkydory. I will take your suggestion and make a backup copy of the .kde/share/applink directory. Thanks for the help, Dennis Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 22 November 2000 10:16 am, Dennis Myers wrote: However, I don't have any icons for things like KPPP and the Update etc. Can't find the KPPP configure and don't see my floppy or cdrw or cd. Any body know what Man pages I should start with to get things looking more normal? 'man update-menus' su to root and run 'update-menus -v'. When you get icons and menus restored, for added insurance, save a bakup copy of the /home/user/.kde/share/applink directory. -- ennis Myers Registered Linux user
Re: [newbie] 7.2 installs and stuff
Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, eryl wrote: I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both installs took 3 HOURS! These boxes are probably minimum, P200mmx with 64M of ram and scsi 9 gig drives with 50x ATAPI cdroms. Three hours seems out of line for an install on a clean, formatted HD--at least to me. The longest 7.1 took was 70 minutes, or so--I was using scsi 4X cd's with those, though. Would a scsi CD make that much difference? Ick... that is long. On my PII/350 64Mb machine it only took 45 minutes.. ?? Paul I've installed LM 7.2 on my PIII/585E BXmainboard a few times average install time 20mins for both CDs 880 packages Joseph
Re: [newbie] 7.2 says i've got a PIII ?!
Last question. Do i have to compile the kernel for 586 or 686 then? I assume 686, isn't it? ;-) If I recall correctly, Mandrake supplies a patched kernel of the plain vanilla 2.2.17 kernel. It is optimised for i586 architectures, which means that any CPU ranging from a P60 to a P233MMX will benifit from it. The K6-family from AMD will also get a small speed increase. But, since CPU's are backward compatible, i686 CPU's, like the PII(I), CeleronI(I) and Athlon will work on it. You could recompile your kernel, but you won't feel much of a speed increase. To get real optimisations for your system, you would have to recompile EVERY program again from the source files for i686. Mandrake already does this for i586 systems, that's why their distro's won't work on 486's or anything lower. So you better leave your kernel as it is right now, and wait for a more mature version of the 2.4 kernel (although 2.4.0-test11 is sufficient for home use). Optimising your kernel for i686 will have limited effect on the speed of your system.
Re: [newbie] 7.2 installs and stuff
Bob Ackerman wrote: [snip] I do have a question. Grub installed on my 1st hard drive, which is Windows 98 (which I need to for work) but I had to recently re-install windows to fix a problem (one of many problems with windows) but it cleared my Grub. I got lilo to install but I want grub back. Any suggestions on how to load it at this point? [snip] Bob./usr/sbin/grub-install -- Alan
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and several problems
On Friday 24 November 2000 01:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: boot box also has the same problems as above as well as telling me that I have room for only 39% of the files I chose to install. That was on a 4gig hd with 2 gig reserved for /home. Should I have made /usr the larger partition? Please, no html. Also, you have the best chance of getting good answers to your questions if you limit each post to one question. Your 'several problems' also appear to to be on different systems, so I'll just try to suggest a solution for partitions. A fairly normal install of 7.2 with all it's included software is going to approach 3 gigs or more. This is only going to be viable in 4 gigs if you make ~120mb '/swap', and put everything else in '/' There are no valid reasons not to put all of Linux on one partition (/), unless it's going to be used as a mission critical, multi user, networked server. . and in that case, 4 gigs isn't close to being enough. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 7.2 says i've got a PIII ?!
Mathias De Belder escribió: Under my laptop, owning a Celeron 500 mhz, Mandrake 7.2 says it's got a PIII Copermine... what's wrong?? 8-? Your Celeron 500 is probably a CeleronII. This is the successor of the CeleronA and it's based on the .18µ Coppermine core of the PIII. Only the cache and the L2 associativity have been altered, and it runs on a slower Front Side Bus speed. Linux Mandrake is correct in telling you that you have a PIII ;-) BUT, the CeleronII's performance is WAY of that of a regular PIII due to the mentioned L2 cache associativity... cat /proc/cpuinfo should tell you more. Good to know... that program answers me i'm forbidden to run it -running it as root, of course- 8-? Do you know if it's easy to overclock?? ;-) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] 7.2 says i've got a PIII ?!
Under my laptop, owning a Celeron 500 mhz, Mandrake 7.2 says it's got a PIII Copermine... what's wrong?? 8-? Your Celeron 500 is probably a CeleronII. This is the successor of the CeleronA and it's based on the .18=B5 Coppermine core of the PIII. Only the cache and the L2 associativity have been altered, and it runs on a slower Front Side Bus speed. Linux Mandrake is correct in telling you that you have a PIII ;-) BUT, the CeleronII's performance is WAY of that of a regular PIII due to the mentioned L2 cache associativity... cat /proc/cpuinfo should tell you more. Good to know... that program answers me i'm forbidden to run it -running it as root, of course- 8-? Do you know if it's easy to overclock?? ;-) I'm surprised it won't let you see that file. As a user, just type : 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and it should give you the details of your CPU. Overclocking a laptop isn't really recommended, although the Celeron's have historicly been very good overclockers. As you've probably noticed by now, your laptop is generating quite a bit of heat. Overclocking your CPU will only make it worse. To save costs and space and to not drain the battery too much, mobile Intel CPU's are only passivly cooled. In my opinion, those CPU's are already being pushed to the limit. One can seriously damage one's CPU by letting it overheat too much. So it's better to leave your setup as it is. If you would really want to overclock, see if you can adjust your Front Side Bus speed from within your laptop's BIOS. Just my .03 Euro (damn exchange rate ;)
Re: [newbie] 7.2 installs and stuff
I'm not sure why it took that long for your install. It only took me about 38 minutes for a full install using the Alt-E method on the Wal-Mart package with give a person the correct Expert mode menu. What took about 3 hours was all the downloading of KDE2 and other update required for said package. Thank you. Gary A. Garibaldi Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Registered Linux User: 188550 -- 7:30am up 9:20, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.55 On Friday 24 November 2000 23:05, you wrote: On Friday 24 November 2000 23:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4x lmfao and you wonder why it took so long takes about 22 mins on my machine for full install ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff" ** Original Sender: eryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:16 -0600 ** Original Message follows... I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both installs took 3 HOURS! WOW! Now I'm really wondering what went on with my boxes! And whatever it was, they both did the same thing. Anyone else have any insight into this? --
Re: [newbie] 7.2 says i've got a PIII ?!
Mathias De Belder escribió: Good to know... that program answers me i'm forbidden to run it -running it as root, of course- 8-? I'm surprised it won't let you see that file. As a user, just type : 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and it should give you the details of your CPU. Ejem... i forgot to type "cat" O8-) Last question. Do i have to compile the kernel for 586 or 686 then? I assume 686, isn't it? ;-) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] 7.2 says i've got a PIII ?!
Under my laptop, owning a Celeron 500 mhz, Mandrake 7.2 says it's got a PIII Copermine... what's wrong?? 8-? Your Celeron 500 is probably a CeleronII. This is the successor of the CeleronA and it's based on the .18µ Coppermine core of the PIII. Only the cache and the L2 associativity have been altered, and it runs on a slower Front Side Bus speed. Linux Mandrake is correct in telling you that you have a PIII ;-) BUT, the CeleronII's performance is WAY of that of a regular PIII due to the mentioned L2 cache associativity... cat /proc/cpuinfo should tell you more.
RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and stuff
4x lmfao and you wonder why it took so long takes about 22 mins on my machine for full install ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff" ** Original Sender: eryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:16 -0600 ** Original Message follows... I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both installs took 3 HOURS! These boxes are probably minimum, P200mmx with 64M of ram and scsi 9 gig drives with 50x ATAPI cdroms. Three hours seems out of line for an install on a clean, formatted HD--at least to me. The longest 7.1 took was 70 minutes, or so--I was using scsi 4X cd's with those, though. Would a scsi CD make that much difference? So far, kde2 is definitely prettier than its predecessors, and a bit slower to load. Apps are somewhat slower to load too (ala Win98)--I guess that's the payment for the eye candy. Some stuff is not totally stable, imo. So far my crashes have only happened when I CLOSED an app, never while running one or while loading one. I get a consistent crash when I close the background manager if I choose a background from a source other than kde's default sourcefile, and I get the "app has crashed" window when I close any Gnome game that I'm running in kde. Minor annoyances, but I don't think I'll do any more 7.2 installs until the bugfixes come in the next month or so. CUPS was kind of a headache for me, but I've got it figured out now. In fact, I think I like it, now I've got the StarOffice printing sorted out. Like anything new it requires some getting used to. My one real complaint is the Konquerer network ran really slow copying from Windows machines to the 7.2 machines. I don't have a clue why, it was fine going from Linux box to Linux box. I installed the LinNeighborhood rpm and now both Linux and Windows files copy fast. Anyone know why this happened to me? Has it happened to anyone else, and if so, how did you fix it? Eryl ** - End Original Message --- ** ]XAN[animalTK
Re: [newbie] 7.2 installs and stuff
On Friday 24 November 2000 23:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4x lmfao and you wonder why it took so long takes about 22 mins on my machine for full install ** Original Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 installs and "stuff" ** Original Sender: eryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:59:16 -0600 ** Original Message follows... I've installed 7.2 on two different boxes, now (developmental), and both installs took 3 HOURS! WOW! Now I'm really wondering what went on with my boxes! And whatever it was, they both did the same thing. Anyone else have any insight into this?
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and several problems
Thanks, that helped a whole lot. I didn't realize how big 7.2 really was. I got 80% of expert/workstation on about 2.4 gigs. That should be ok until I finally delete windows off of the 10gig hd and go linux only. Thanks again, Dennis M. bascule wrote: dennis, /usr needs to be quite big, try a 1gig /, a 2gig /usr and 1gig /home, have you set dns correctly for netscape to work, do this in drakconfnetworking maybe it was just a typo in your post but a modem would be on ttyS0 not ttys0, ttyS0 is com1 in dos terms bascule Dennis Myers wrote: I have found the gui for 7.2 but as stated before I have no icons and several functions don't. Like Networking in DrakConf, and my modem will dial in and connect to my ISP but netscape doesn't connect. On the dual boot machine I have an external modem set on ttys0 and 7.2 can't find it. the dual boot box also has the same problems as above as well as telling me that I have room for only 39% of the files I chose to install. That was on a 4gig hd with 2 gig reserved for /home. Should I have made /usr the larger partition? Lots of questions, I know, but if anyone can help on one at a time or all I would appreciate it. Just a note, I am using Netscape 6 for this e-mail and it is definitly slower than 4.75, also I have had a look at enlightenment and it is COOOL! TIA for any help out there, -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:54:13 -0800, Alan S wrote: OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches. One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD and let it do the partitioning automatically telling it to use the unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time. The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add the partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD. Then boot up with the installation CD and when it asks, assign the mount points yourself. -- Alan -- Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:13:12 Both logical solutions Alan, but my other system is in a old P-166 across the room (no lan 8-) .and my Tom's rootboot is too old for Mdk 7.2...but I think I am over... Here is the saga, long and plaintive... I started with a 2g fat16 with W95 newly on, a brand new 20 gig Ibm Deskstar..working well, even the PCI modem...the rest of the disc" Bare". I started the MDK 7.2 install and rapidly arrived at "expert" Disc partitioning ...I made another 2gig fat and then a 30m Linux boot and the forth primary went to an extended linux partition for the rest of the disc... For some reason? I stuck in a floppy and hit the "write table to backup" button (or similar)...man I am so glad I did, because this install was spiraling out of control,I would have been in the same condition as Pauls install.. but for that floppy I would have lost the table. A normal person would have waited until the table was complete to back it up? After I tried to put linux partitions on the extended, nothing worked as advertised ..it would accept one and then overwrite it then it would give the old "proceed at your own risk" error that Paul mentioned as he lost his.then the whole install froze tight... I was compelled to hit reset and boot back to the CD-Rom, work forward to the part table, and then recover from the floppy... back to the extended partition like clockwork I tried every way even putting swap 1st in the extended? after rebooting several more times ( love that floppy)...I decided to do a delete on the extended and run the wizard.well that worked OK and KDE sits before me in nice color In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk. I will mail these discs to Australia tomorrow, but I plan to get another pair... Next time, I shall use the Fdisk from my 6.1 to rig the Deskstar and then start the 7.2 install on a completed table. Thank you for your good suggestions Alan, in my moment of panic...it was a good fight til three o clock in the morning ,. I half way won grin. Pardon my arrogance in using a "Expert install" 8-) Thanks again Olly P Biloxi Mississippi PS..it took 45 min to suck both disks with the wizard, a total "development" should be there.
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition(Correction)
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:11:34 -0600, I wrote: In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk. --- Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:58:59 Now that I have looked at this install I see that I was wrong about the above statement...the Home is in a separate partition on the wizard installI would have done some of it different...however what I said was incorrect. Long night grin. Olly P
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and no Xserver (solved, sort of)
On Wednesday 22 November 2000 10:16 am, Dennis Myers wrote: However, I don't have any icons for things like KPPP and the Update etc. Can't find the KPPP configure and don't see my floppy or cdrw or cd. Any body know what Man pages I should start with to get things looking more normal? 'man update-menus' su to root and run 'update-menus -v'. When you get icons and menus restored, for added insurance, save a bakup copy of the /home/user/.kde/share/applink directory. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition(Correction)
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:11:34 -0600, I wrote: In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk. --- Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:58:59 Now that I have looked at this install I see that I was wrong about the above statement...the Home is in a separate partition on the wizard installI would have done some of it different...however what I said was incorrect. Long night grin. Olly P You can create the partitons you want with the diskdrake in intsall, its very eaay to use graphical partition tool if ya ask me. but fdisk is btter of you like commandline partitioning tools instead -- Chad Y. Registered Linux User #195191
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition
Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote: On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:54:13 -0800, Alan S wrote: OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches. One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD and let it do the partitioning automatically telling it to use the unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time. The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add the partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD. Then boot up with the installation CD and when it asks, assign the mount points yourself. -- Alan -- Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:13:12 Both logical solutions Alan, but my other system is in a old P-166 across the room (no lan 8-) .and my Tom's rootboot is too old for Mdk 7.2...but I think I am over... Here is the saga, long and plaintive... I started with a 2g fat16 with W95 newly on, a brand new 20 gig Ibm Deskstar..working well, even the PCI modem...the rest of the disc" Bare". I started the MDK 7.2 install and rapidly arrived at "expert" Disc partitioning ...I made another 2gig fat and then a 30m Linux boot and the forth primary went to an extended linux partition for the rest of the disc... For some reason? I stuck in a floppy and hit the "write table to backup" button (or similar)...man I am so glad I did, because this install was spiraling out of control,I would have been in the same condition as Pauls install.. but for that floppy I would have lost the table. A normal person would have waited until the table was complete to back it up? After I tried to put linux partitions on the extended, nothing worked as advertised ..it would accept one and then overwrite it .then it would give the old "proceed at your own risk" error that Paul mentioned as he lost his.then the whole install froze tight... I was compelled to hit reset and boot back to the CD-Rom, work forward to the part table, and then recover from the floppy... back to the extended partition like clockwork I tried every way even putting swap 1st in the extended? after rebooting several more times ( love that floppy)...I decided to do a delete on the extended and run the wizard.well that worked OK and KDE sits before me in nice color In summery, I will say I am not happy with the fact that I have no separate Var and home, and all the other things I like to do with partitions...I sadly miss the Fdisk option of Helios 6.1 and doubt that I will be able to live without a separate home at the minimum...I wish they would have given me an option to choose Fdisk. I will mail these discs to Australia tomorrow, but I plan to get another pair... Next time, I shall use the Fdisk from my 6.1 to rig the Deskstar and then start the 7.2 install on a completed table. Thank you for your good suggestions Alan, in my moment of panic...it was a good fight til three o clock in the morning ,. I half way won grin. Pardon my arrogance in using a "Expert install" 8-) Thanks again Olly P Biloxi Mississippi PS..it took 45 min to suck both disks with the wizard, a total "development" should be there. Ollysorry, I misread your original message and thought that you said that you had a previous version of Linux active on your computer. That was the 'other Linux system' to which I was referring. However, instead you could use the rescue capabilities of your installation CD (or tomsrtbt) to do the same things I already suggested -- Alan
Re: [newbie] 7.2 lack of xserver
Dennis Myers wrote: Hi all, I burned a new Install CD for 7.2. This time I got a complete copy based on the total bytes transfered. Funny thing, this time around Aurora doesn't come up by default and on boot up I get no Xserver. I am totally unimpressed since this is the same machine that 7.0 and 7.1 loaded on without a hitch. Cups was installed and when I said ok to print a test page ( My old Epson 800 Stylus esc wasn't listed so I chose generic) I got about ten pages of garbage and it didn't act like it was going to stop there so I shut the printer off. I would have to say that I am totally unimpressed with 7.2. It seems like Mandrake Soft has taken a couple of steps backwards for ease of installation. At least for me. I think I will save my money and buy some more ram or something and not waste it on 7.2. Maybe they will get 7.3 to be more user friendly. Yes, I did try the xf86config and that just made matters worse. No xserver to be had. Bummer, It seems to me that there is a lot of disparity in the success people are having with the installation. That to me is not the mark of a good distribution. That's my rant, I'm tired and going to bed. If any one has a idea as to why I can't get an xserver this time around, I'm willing to listen, being the stubborn sort, I don't like to give up. Night all. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 is is possible because of the (major) change to kde 2.0 that we will have some problems for awhile
Re: [newbie] 7.2 lack of xserver
It's possible, but has anyone solved this one? I get a blue screen and we go no further. patrick wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: Hi all, I burned a new Install CD for 7.2. This time I got a complete copy based on the total bytes transfered. Funny thing, this time around Aurora doesn't come up by default and on boot up I get no Xserver. I am totally unimpressed since this is the same machine that 7.0 and 7.1 loaded on without a hitch. Cups was installed and when I said ok to print a test page ( My old Epson 800 Stylus esc wasn't listed so I chose generic) I got about ten pages of garbage and it didn't act like it was going to stop there so I shut the printer off. I would have to say that I am totally unimpressed with 7.2. It seems like Mandrake Soft has taken a couple of steps backwards for ease of installation. At least for me. I think I will save my money and buy some more ram or something and not waste it on 7.2. Maybe they will get 7.3 to be more user friendly. Yes, I did try the xf86config and that just made matters worse. No xserver to be had. Bummer, It seems to me that there is a lot of disparity in the success people are having with the installation. That to me is not the mark of a good distribution. That's my rant, I'm tired and going to bed. If any one has a idea as to why I can't get an xserver this time around, I'm willing to listen, being the stubborn sort, I don't like to give up. Night all. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 is is possible because of the (major) change to kde 2.0 that we will have some problems for awhile -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install Malfunction on partition
Oliver L. Plaine Jr. wrote: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:45:50 I am sitting here in trouble with my penguin, While preforming a MDK 7.2 expert installation (Hey,..no smirking) 8-) I cannot make anything go into the Linux extended partition with this installer? I have a 2g dos on hda primary 1...and another on primary 2...primary 3 is a 30m linux boot I made primary 4 a Linux extended to the end of the 20g IBM deskstar..all seems OK. I have clicked that installer to death but it will not allow me to put the rest of the partitions into the extended? just ...nobody home...it is not frozen or locked, it just will not open a panel for the next partition in the extended. Type linux extended partition 0x85...that is the correct type? right?. This is the touchey part of the install and I really don't want to destroy the table...but if someone would suggest an area to apply some force, I will tap it a little? Waiting for you Olly P Biloxi OllyI can think offhand of two basic approaches. One would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and use fdisk to delete partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD and let it do the partitioning automatically telling it to use the unpartitioned area of the drive at the proper time. The other also would be to boot up on your other Linux system, login as root and this time to use fdisk to add the partitions inside partition 4 and then log out and reboot with the installation CD. Then boot up with the installation CD and when it asks, assign the mount points yourself. -- Alan
Re: [newbie] (...) 7.2 nightmare setup (partitions)
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Krulo wrote: my problem is this: after I boot with the disk7 to the 7.2 instalatio I get this really cool screen with the options F1 or Enter. After choosing "Enter" he detects the cdrom, initializes it and enters the setup process (another cool screen). he asks the language, the expert/costum thing and then detects the keyboard, the mouse, etc. then asks me to choose what type of partition do I want: if I want to delet windows, if I want to use the free space in the windows partition, or the expert. I choose "use free space" and then I does this: "Computing windows file system bounds" he wait here a while and then a window appears saying some like "it's advisable to run scandisk and scanreg (opt) before entering this stage. press OK when ready" and there are 2 buttons: "OK" and "Cancel". But when I try to click on any of them it doest work! the mouse works but it's not possible to click on any button! even in the "screen change" buttons... crtl+alt+del doesn't work to... I already tried to make a scandisk, a scanreg, the 2 types of scandisk, in DOS, in windows... and it keeps crashing in the same stage... can U help me? I tried to make the partitions in the "expert" mode but if I try to make any other he deletes the windows one... help...? thx Can you give a little more info? HD size, how many other partitions, etcIn my case, when I get to the part that asks me if I want to use the free space, blah blah, I click the Expert button, and since I have a HD thats plenty big enough (17 gig) for me to shrink Winbitesmyass down considerably (since I use Linux as my primary OS anyways), I then click on the Windows partition (because clicking on expert brought me to DiskDrake, which allows you to resize and partition your HD), make it smaller (about 5 gig), then I click on the remaining free space (about 11 left over, of course), and then I click auto-allocate. DiskDrake then sets up the Linux partitioning, and away I go. Maybe that will work for you...either way, click expert and just take a look without actually doing anything - youre safe just looking things over, getting your bearings. -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered Linux user #190719
RE: [newbie] 7.2
CDRWIN under windows make goods CDs from ISO images; also you can see the cooker page (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3) how to do it under linux Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Mandrake Linux User:LMEP71-562-ESP-NXAI-V38K - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Geoff Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Sábado, Noviembre 18, 2000 11:12 pm Asunto: [newbie] 7.2 I'm running 7.1 and want to upgrade to 7.2 I downloaded the iso images files 7.2 inst.iso and 7.2 ext.iso. I can't install the program from these files and can't find any info on this. Any help? Thanks GT
Re: [newbie]7.2 gnapster
I've installed LM7.2 and gnapster works fine - I'm playing some mp3s I've downloaded just now. Soundcard is SB Live! Regards Joseph eric wrote: skidley wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, root wrote: Dear All, Has anyone tried any of the napster clones with 7.2 yet? I have the gnapster and it seems to get the music fine . Unfortunately Kaiman does not work at all for playing the music. The Xmms player works except the music fades in and out. I do not know if the problem is with KDE2 downloading music or with the players themsselves. I certainly would like this up and running well in 7.2. The music player in 7 worked very well. Is there another player I can try? Thank you. Marcia I personally prefer mpg123 at the command line. One great option is -b size sets up a buffer however big ya want so that when ya start up a pig like netscape or something it doesn't effect the music. Kinda like antiskip on a portable cd player. Stores a few seconds ahead in buffer. neat feature. And it uses far less memory and cpu resources than xmms which is a pig! -- Chad Y. Registered Linux User #195191 Registered Linux Box #86749 Dear Skidley: what websites we can use mpg123 to listen music or live audio? I ever go to MP3.com , and listen some music. best regard Eric
Re: [newbie]7.2 gnapster
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, root wrote: Dear All, Has anyone tried any of the napster clones with 7.2 yet? I have the gnapster and it seems to get the music fine . Unfortunately Kaiman does not work at all for playing the music. The Xmms player works except the music fades in and out. I do not know if the problem is with KDE2 downloading music or with the players themsselves. I certainly would like this up and running well in 7.2. The music player in 7 worked very well. Is there another player I can try? Thank you. Marcia I personally prefer mpg123 at the command line. One great option is -b size sets up a buffer however big ya want so that when ya start up a pig like netscape or something it doesn't effect the music. Kinda like antiskip on a portable cd player. Stores a few seconds ahead in buffer. neat feature. And it uses far less memory and cpu resources than xmms which is a pig! -- Chad Y. Registered Linux User #195191 Registered Linux Box #86749
Re: [newbie]7.2 gnapster
On Friday 17 November 2000 01:50 pm, root wrote: Dear All, Has anyone tried any of the napster clones with 7.2 yet? I have the gnapster and it seems to get the music fine . I use Knapster, works great Unfortunately Kaiman does not work at all for playing the music. Kaiman seems fairly useless to me The Xmms player works except the music fades in and out. I use Xmms with the OSS ouput plugin, no problems I do not know if the problem is with KDE2 downloading music or with the players themsselves. Could be your sound hardware. Try using normalize-0.3.4-2mdk...rpm to equalize mp3/wav sound ouput. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie]7.2 gnapster
skidley wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, root wrote: Dear All, Has anyone tried any of the napster clones with 7.2 yet? I have the gnapster and it seems to get the music fine . Unfortunately Kaiman does not work at all for playing the music. The Xmms player works except the music fades in and out. I do not know if the problem is with KDE2 downloading music or with the players themsselves. I certainly would like this up and running well in 7.2. The music player in 7 worked very well. Is there another player I can try? Thank you. Marcia I personally prefer mpg123 at the command line. One great option is -b size sets up a buffer however big ya want so that when ya start up a pig like netscape or something it doesn't effect the music. Kinda like antiskip on a portable cd player. Stores a few seconds ahead in buffer. neat feature. And it uses far less memory and cpu resources than xmms which is a pig! -- Chad Y. Registered Linux User #195191 Registered Linux Box #86749 Dear Skidley: what websites we can use mpg123 to listen music or live audio? I ever go to MP3.com , and listen some music. best regard Eric
Re: [newbie] 7.2 - hardware problem?
I suppose you know there are issues on the Mandrake site about that particular Adaptec card? I went thru 3 or 4 controllers and a buch of drives trying to get installed on 7.1. Twas a PITA and I ended up needing to use my live system rather than the old POS I have hoped to make use of. The Adaptec was one I didn't try, even though I have one, because of the warning. good luck, BobC - Original Message - From: "Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 8:29 PM Subject: [newbie] 7.2 - hardware problem? Hi, I have had nothing but problems trying to get this program installed and running. Do I not have enough hard disk space? Does anything else about this configuration look questionable? Dell Optiplex DGX 5166 Pentium (r) 166MHz 64MB RAM EISA BUS SCSI HD ST31230N 1010MB and NEC CD-ROM 502 w/ Adaptec AHA-2940 controller (card) and Symbios Logic 53C810 controller (on board) ATI Graphic Pro PCI display adapter atim64-GX 15" Digital monitor PCXBV-HZ Thanks for any ideas, help, or web sites to check out. Robert Oscar Wilde observed: "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends upon the unreasonable man."
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install help
KompuKit wrote: I currently have 7.02I'm downloading the iso then burning it... which method should I do? UPGRADE or INSTALL I've got majordomo lists...which have members You really need to do an install. If you have the lists and members in your /home directory and it is a separate partition, then, no problem. If not, you will need to back up everything you want to keep. Upgrade is a bit of a stretch from 7.02 to 7.2 because so many directories changed to comply with the linux standards board (LSB) recommendations. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Hearts
On Wednesday 15 November 2000 06:48 pm, root wrote: Dear All, I lost a very nice Hearts game when my Mandrake 7 crashed. I found the game on the internet today with my newly installed 7.2. It was from the same place that I downloaded before. When we opened the game the cards had no faces. I even went back and downloaded again another version and the same thing happened. Anything that I can do about this? Thanks. Marcia This is conjecture on my part, but I've found that a few older apps, particulary those for KDE1.x, either don't work or don't work properly with KDE2 and/or XF4.0.x. I've had fewer problems with gnome apps, so it's prob'ly KDE2 and the new qt/qt2 libs. Rather than tryin to hunt down the incompatabilities, edit makefiles, etc, I've just been finding replacement apps that don't have problems. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Hearts
On Thursday 16 November 2000 10:56 am, Marcia wrote: Dear Tom All, Is there another good Hearts game that will work well in KDE2? As far as I know the ones I found were the only ones and are not working well with my KDE2 in 7.2. That is the cards have no faces! This same Hearts game worked very well in 7 for me. Any suggestions? Thank you. Marcia Which one (filename) do you have now? All so since this might be a video problem, what video card? and does it need a closed source driver? ... and have you tried a different resolutions and/or color depths? Which X are you using ?, ie, 'X -version' -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 7.2 HeartsPrinting
Dear Tom, Paul, All, Thank you for your suggestions. I will study that printing page from Mandrakeuser.org. I do have a question here: Is it unusual to not have the printing set up correctly during installation with 7.2? My printing setup was automatic with the installation in 7. Otherwise overall I am very impressed with 7.2 and feel that it is an improvement over 7. As far as the questions for the Hearts game. I am not sure what X version would be used in 7.2. How can I check for sure? What config file would that be in 7.2? Is there a way to check on versions through the console? My video card/driver is a S3Virge and is setup exactly like it was in 7, I believe. It is an extended Super VGA, 800x600 at 60hz ,640x480 at 72hz. Vert refresh is 55-90 Video Ram is 2048 Default color depth-16. The Hearts game worked fine in 7 with this setup. My display and X seems to be fine in 7.2 except for this Hearts game. I am not sure how to answer the closed source driver question. I am a relatively new newbie.:) I tried the hearts-0.90-1.i386.rpm first then I tried hearts-0.0.13-1.i386.rpm after the other one did not work. The latter one had the same problem (no faces). The latter one or the 0.0.13 version is the one I used without problems in Linux-Mandrake7. I have not tried different resolutions or color depths and do not really know how to do that in 7.2. If someone can help me solve this I would be grateful since this game is the one thing that helped my husband accept Linux. Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] 7.2 HeartsPrinting
On Thursday 16 November 2000 02:45 pm, Marcia wrote: As far as the questions for the Hearts game. I am not sure what X version would be used in 7.2. How can I check for sure? What config file would that be in 7.2? Is there a way to check on versions through the console? type 'X -version', if that doesn't work type 'XFree86 -version' My video card/driver is a S3Virge and is setup exactly like it was in 7, I believe. No not exactly, it can't be, because you have a newer kernel, X version, and many, many other changes with 7.2. It is an extended Super VGA, 800x600 at 60hz ,640x480 at 72hz. Vert refresh is 55-90 Video Ram is 2048 Default color depth-16. just 2 megs on the card is borderline. 800x600x16 is 'bout all it wants. The Hearts game worked fine in 7 with this setup. My display and X seems to be fine in 7.2 except for this Hearts game. I am not sure how to answer the closed source driver question. It's using a generic VGA driver so that becomes sort'a academic. What I was fishin for is many times with hardware that uses closed source drivers, upgrade Linux and the hardware quits workin properly. I am a relatively new newbie.:) I tried the hearts-0.90-1.i386.rpm an ftp search for this rpm turned up -0- then I tried hearts-0.0.13-1.i386.rpm ftp for this one turns up lot's, but they're all only 4.6k ?? I downloaded a couple and they were all invalid. So, I searched hearts-0.0.12-1.i386.rpm and got a lot at 234k, d/l one and installed... yep, no faces... so I searched hearts-0.0.13.tar.gz and got a bunch of 4.6k files again. I d/l'd hearts-0.0.12.tar.gz (224k) and it failed on configure, not the right headers/libraries. I have not tried different resolutions or color depths and do not really know how to do that in 7.2. Like anything else in Linux there's lot'a ways, easiest for a newcomer with 7.2 would prob'ly be DrakConf | Change Screen Res. But if you have set up both 640 and 800, first try Crtl+Alt, +/- on the numpad to toggle the different resolutions on the fly. But I don't think this is the road to go anyhow, I believe the app's just not gonna run right under the new kernel/libraries. If someone can help me solve this I would be grateful since this game is the one thing that helped my husband accept Linux. I'm out'a ideas, 'cept for the first one I gave you. The app has fallen behind, and without a rewrite, prob'ly isn't gonna work right with the newer 7.2 kernel (2.2.17), X, KDE2, libs, etc. Buying another old computer, or makin a new partition on the one you've got, and loading Mandrake 7.0 with Hearts (and faces) would probl'y be a lot cheaper than a divorce ; -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
RE: [newbie] 7.2 install help
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Romanator wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KompuKit Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 7:59 PM To: Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] 7.2 install help I currently have 7.02I'm downloading the iso then burning it... which method should I do? UPGRADE or INSTALL I've got majordomo lists...which have members I always recommend a clean install, but you can do it without formatting your home dir depending on how you set up your partitions. If you have one /home your set that way you can keep all your settings or of course you can backup yer home dir as well or if ya don't care wipe it. Just my 2 cents worth hehe
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and Voodoo5 and quake3
civileme wrote: On Tuesday 14 November 2000 21:54, you wrote: So, 7.2 betas 1 through 3 autodetected my Voodoo5 and configured it for 3d acceleration without any intervention on my part. I just installed 7.2 full and while it did detect my V5 I cannot get hard ware acceleration to work. The Xlog file says this: (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.1 (II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee, 3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found (--) Chipset 3dfx Voodoo5 found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: and this about it: (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 22.24 MB [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (II) TDFX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) . (==) TDFX(0): Write-combining range (0xd800,0x400) (II) TDFX(0): Textures Memory 22.24 MB [drm] failed to load kernel module "tdfx" (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI. (**) TDFX(0): DPMS enabled (II) TDFX(0): direct rendering disabled whats up? It look sto my highly untrained eyes that the X startup process can only find half of the video card but I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I tried recompiling the tdfx module from the linux.3dfx.com web site and when I installed it I got messages that it conflicts with a kernel module. Other then this 7.2 is great. It feels more fluid, faster, more stable. Keep up the great work mandrake folks! Abe OK Please send me cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Civileme -- QA/Software Testing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you! Here it is: # File generated by XFdrake. # ** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging #NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #DontZoom # This allows the server to start up even if the # mouse device can't be opened/initialised. AllowMouseOpenFail EndSection # ** # Input devices # ** # ** # Keyboard section # ** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "Keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection # ** # Pointer section # ** Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse" Option "ZaxisMapping" "4 5" #Option "Emulate3Buttons" #Option "Emulate3Timeout""50" # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option "ChordMiddle" EndSection Section "Module" # This loads the DBE extension module. Load"dbe" Load"glx" Load"dri" # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection "extmod" #Option "omit xfree86-dga" EndSubSection # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules Load"type1" Load"freetype" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode0666 EndSection # ** #
Re: [newbie]7.2 internet-pump
Marcia L Waller wrote: [snip] I just need to get a zip drive icon on my desktop. I am not sure how to do this. Anyone know? Thank you. Marcia [snip] Marciafirst, as root, create a mount point in your /mnt directory. For instance, in a console, type: mkdir /mnt/zip Then determine the device designation of your zip drive. If it's an IDE device it'll be hdx where x is the letter one higher than your last IDE hard drive. For instance, if you have 1 IDE hard drive it is hda and the zip will be hdb. Then, as root, edit /etc/fstab and add the line below: /dev/hdb4 /mnt/zip vfat user,noauto 0 0 after that then right-click your desktop and choose 'Create New' and then 'Floppy Device'. Name the new icon 'Zip' and in the 'device' section choose your zip device from the list (it reads your /etc/fstab file) '/dev/hdb4', set the mount point as /mnt/zip and the file system type as vfat (for the out-of-the-box formatted zip discs. That's all. :-) -- Alan
Re: [newbie] 7.2
On Wednesday 15 November 2000 04:10 pm, Marcia L Waller wrote: I do not remember where to get the Hearts and napster now. I believe I was using gnome napster which worked well for me. gnapster and knapster rpm's are in the /contrib/RPMS dir on Mandrake mirrors. Never got around to tryin gnapster, but knapster works great. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] 7.2
Dear All, I am pleased with 7.2 as I mentioned before. I am getting things corrected and working in a few hours rather than months.:) Is StarOffice supplied with this distro? It's supplied in the boxed distro you buy at the store. Where is Ktail? http://www.franken.de/users/duffy1/rjakob/ Ktail I do not remember where to get the Hearts and napster now. I believe I was using gnome napster which worked well for me. http://www.faradic.net/~jasta/gnapster.html Gnapster http://www.geocities.com/deepblack9/hearts/ Hearts -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
Re: [newbie] 7.2
On Wednesday 15 November 2000 17:10, you wrote: Dear All, I am pleased with 7.2 as I mentioned before. I am getting things corrected and working in a few hours rather than months.:) Is StarOffice supplied with this distro? Where is Ktail? Unfortunately I lost my Hearts game in my 7 crash the other night as well as my napster clone. By the way my husband who liked the MIcrosoft Hearts really likes this Hearts for Linux. I do not remember where to get the Hearts and napster now. I believe I was using gnome napster which worked well for me. I dont know about hearts, or Gnapster, but I got Knapster off linux.tucows.com, and it works great for me...course, Im always in KDE...if you're in gnome more, you may not dig it... -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Registered linux user #190719
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install help
install. i have heard that upgrade can take forever. and besides the new kde 2.0 and koffice and all u just dont need much more. im starting to break down. soon i will buy the 7.2 at the store. someone stop me please Why? Don't you have a cd burner? You get a more complete version from the ISOs than from the Macmillian release, even if you lucked out and found one with KDE2.0 Final. The only thing the retail has that the ISO doesn't is StarOffice, and you can download that. Manuals? We doan need no stinking manuals! :)
Re: [newbie] 7.2 install help
I have 8.4 gig hd two parts ext2 /root = 2 gig /home = 2 gig /swap = 128 mg windows 98 2nd ed. 4 gig on same drive skidley wrote: On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Romanator wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KompuKit Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 7:59 PM To: Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] 7.2 install help I currently have 7.02I'm downloading the iso then burning it... which method should I do? UPGRADE or INSTALL I've got majordomo lists...which have members I always recommend a clean install, but you can do it without formatting your home dir depending on how you set up your partitions. If you have one /home your set that way you can keep all your settings or of course you can backup yer home dir as well or if ya don't care wipe it. Just my 2 cents worth hehe -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] 7.2 problems...
See the hints for setting up printing in small networks on the Mandrake Forum: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001109145914mode=flat http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001102140711mode=flat Try to use the PPD file coming with the printer, use kups with to set up the queue and when you are asked for manufacturer and model, click on "Have driver". Till Kent Loobey wrote: I had 7.1 installed on two computers and it worked great. I have installed 7.2 on both of them and I can't get the printer (NEC Silentwriter 2 model 90) to work. It sends the postscript to it but does not actually print. I have tried every combination that NEC suggests and of course what worked with 7.1, still no luck.
Re: [newbie] 7.2(initial install) error installing packages:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Mitchell Hagerty wrote: There was an error installing packages: setup-2.1.3-22mkd, filesystem-2.0.5, ld.so, glibc, termcap, libtermcap, readline, bash. Go On anyway? I click on 'Yes' and recieve this. error opening RPM database: cannot open file /mnt/var/lib/ rpm/nameindex.rpm: Invalid argument... You may want to try and rebuild the rpm database: rpm --rebuilddb and try installing the packages by hand.. Paul -- http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake
Re: [newbie] 7.2(initial install) error installing packages:
down There was an error installing packages: setup-2.1.3-22mkd, filesystem-2.0.5, ld.so, glibc, termcap, libtermcap, readline, bash. Go On anyway? I click on 'Yes' and recieve this. error opening RPM database: cannot open file /mnt/var/lib/ rpm/nameindex.rpm: Invalid argument... You may want to try and rebuild the rpm database: rpm --rebuilddb and try installing the packages by hand.. Paul booting from a cd? could I have alittle more detail on how I would go about doing this? Is there a list of what order I should install the rpms? Mitch
Re: [newbie] 7.2 again
The biggest problems is simply learning the differences (Where is that feature now?) between KDE2 vs KDE1. I agree. I wish there was a list somewhere that tells you what they changed from kde1 to kde2. The old autostart on my desktoip for instance, was non functi0onal, because they put a new autostart folder in a different location! -- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User 348854
Re: [newbie] 7.2 and disabling PCMCIA during install
Christopher Seaman wrote: hello all, trying to install Mandrake 7.2 on my Sony 505FX. I couldn't get the CD to recognize the CDROM drive it was booting off of at first (Sony CD5, pcmcia card) until I found the 'ide2 = 0x180,0x386' voodoo. now I'm at a different impass. the CD boots fine and finds the second stage ramdisk, but insists on starting up pcmcia services during the 'looking for hard drives' portion of the install. This would be great except that the install freezes at this point, never to return. I remember an option on Mandrake 7.0 which would disable pcmcia during installation, this would solve my problem! Is there any way to use this option in the current release? Or another way workaround the problem? all thoughts appreciated, chris seaman __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ I haven't had this problem, but my first thought is can you turn your pcmcia off in the BIOS settings? Barry :-)
Re: [newbie] 7.2 again
Paul wrote: Hi all, I decided to go in at the deep end, and set up 7.2 on my second machine from scratch. A bit drastic, but since I was in control (at least I like think that), I decided that it would be a good time to rearrange some partitions. So I backed up what needed backing up, restarted installing and fiddled around with DiskDrake. Btw, if any of the Mandrake developers read this, my compliments about the entire installer and what comes with it. It is an amazing piece of work. Formatted all the partitions, set things up through manual labor. Selected all the packages I wanted on the machine (which helps a LOT in installation time and space!) and 45 minutes later things were well. Including networking and X running perfectly. Still don't know if I am running Xfree 4, but I have seen KDE2 (which runs as Root's wm) which is nice. I then reinstalled the .*rc files I saved for user Paul, startex X, and everything was there exactly as I left them in mdk7.1. I am happy. Paul -- A committee is a group that keeps minutes and loses hours. -Milton Berle http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- I have to agree with you Paul. I made the move from 7.1 to 7.2 yesterday. The graphical interface sure made deleting the old partitions and setting up a new configuration really easy. It also gave me a chance to set up ReiserFS so I could see how it performs. The biggest problems is simply learning the differences (Where is that feature now?) between KDE2 vs KDE1. Barry :-)
Re: [newbie] 7.2
so sorry - mea culpa :-D I figured if I was gonna get a new machine I would GET a NEW machine !!! *S* On Tuesday 07 November 2000 02:04 pm, you wrote: Philomena, Could you please not list the specs of your system? The drool is terrible for my keyboard... -Original Message- From: philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 I downloaded the 7.2 iso images and had no problem at all with the install - I had all kinds of problems with 7.1 - wasn't stable or reliable for me at all. My specs are: 1Gz Athlon, 384 mgs RAM, 40 gb drive, SBLive! sound, NVidia GEforce 256 video, princeton flatscreen monitor, external 3COM dsl modem, internal zip and CDRW, HP Deskjet 950C 7.2 detected and configured all successfully - the first time that has happened to me with any distro, and I've tried versions of quite a few. So, in my book, 7.2 is great. - my 2cents cheers, philomena On Sunday 05 November 2000 05:53 pm, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite?
Re: [newbie] 7.2
On Wednesday 08 November 2000 05:16 am, you wrote: "Sparks, Charley" wrote: I second that .. I only have a dual P166 with 128MB and 4 GB scsi -Original Message- From: Dodd Carlton J MSgt 726 ACS/CSG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 Philomena, Could you please not list the specs of your system? The drool is terrible for my keyboard... -Original Message- From: philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 I downloaded the 7.2 iso images and had no problem at all with the install - I had all kinds of problems with 7.1 - wasn't stable or reliable for me at all. My specs are: 1Gz Athlon, 384 mgs RAM, 40 gb drive, SBLive! sound, NVidia GEforce 256 video, princeton flatscreen monitor, external 3COM dsl modem, internal zip and CDRW, HP Deskjet 950C 7.2 detected and configured all successfully - the first time that has happened to me with any distro, and I've tried versions of quite a few. So, in my book, 7.2 is great. - my 2cents cheers, philomena On Sunday 05 November 2000 05:53 pm, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite? I third that, I ate my mouse while reading your specs. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 Yikes ! I'll try to be quiet from now on :-) that is, until I break the machine again ! philomena
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Install semi-successful
Slaine wrote: Everything seemed to go well this time until we got to the xserver configuration. Then I got a "an error occured server SVGA is not available (should be in /mnt/usr/x11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA) then on reboot,since I tried every this can happen because of several reasons. 1) you try to install mandrake on a too small space 2) your video card is not supported (though I doubt this) 3) you tried to upgrade without enough space (which you didn't do.) 4) xfs (YCUK!!!) isn't running Mandrake tells you that you might not have enough space, but continues installing anyway, but skips packages it deems as not important, sometimes fonts. you can try to restart xfs by running /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart, and if that still fails, edit /etc/passwd, and give xfs 0:0 user and group IDs. I know this isn't secure, but xfs is a piece of shit that should have been better left for dead. hope this helps. Slaine PS, I don't have libfont* on my own machine, anyway. Thanks for the help, but, it didn't. I can not even find the files for SVGA and xfs won't restart or rstart or any thing. I tried an install after I blanked (i.e. no format or anything on it ) the hard drive. Once again it failed to load headers and thus i was unable to config network, printer , or xserver. I think I must have burned a bad copy. I will try one more time and then it's wait for the deluxe McMillan package, which I had planned on buying anyway. I really don't understand it, the install looks so good while loading the packages and then just goes down the toilet. Well, Life is good, just don't weaken! -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
Did you burn the ISO image file to the CD directly (i.e. if you look at the CD's contents you see only the ISO file) or did you actually extract the ISO and burn it as an image? You are supposed to do the latter, and most CD recording programmes (mkisofs/cdrecord, Nero, Adaptec Easy CD Creator) are made to handle this. On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:08, Dennis Myers wrote: I have downloaded the 7.2 ISO disks ( took about 24 hours total) and now I'm like the proverbial car chasing dog, I've caught em, but now I don't know what to do with em. The install disk does not appear to be bootable. I burned it as a iso9660 file rather than the Joliet system. It shows up ok as an executable on the cdrom but it is not a self starter. Should I use my 7.1 boot disk to start it or do I have to make a new boot disk somehow? Can't find anything in the archives or in the other help sites that tells me. Somebody point me in the right direction, please, thankyou, -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "One World, One Web, One Programme." - Microsoft Promotional Ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler
Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
Dennis Myers wrote: I have downloaded the 7.2 ISO disks ( took about 24 hours total) and now I'm like the proverbial car chasing dog, I've caught em, but now I don't know what to do with em. The install disk does not appear to be bootable. I burned it as a iso9660 file rather than the Joliet system. It shows up ok as an executable on the cdrom but it is not a self starter. Should I use my 7.1 boot disk to start it or do I have to make a new boot disk somehow? Can't find anything in the archives or in the other help sites that tells me. Somebody point me in the right direction, please, thankyou, -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842 i just love this post. such honesty :)
Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
The install disk does not appear to be bootable. I burned it as a iso9660 file rather than the Joliet system. It shows up ok as an executable on the cdrom but it is not You have to go one step beyond choosing a file system format. You didn't mention what software you're using so I've got to stay generic with advice but what you need to do if find the option that lets you "create an image", "create a raw image" or something like that. a self starter. Should I use my 7.1 boot disk to start it or do I have to make a new boot disk somehow? Can't find anything in the archives or in the other help sites Jump into your bios and set things up so you can boot off the CD and do that. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] 7.2 mandrake
Larry Marshall wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to say that I have purchased 7.2 at wallmart and the install went perfectly. I did not have one problem at all. One small question where is the enlightenment window manager ? I didnt find it. Thank you, Chronos. Chronosenlightenment is on the 2nd (extension) CD. Since you're unwilling to say it (grin) Alan, I will. The extension CD doesn't come in the Walmart package. Cheers --- Larry Larryoh but I did, in a second message blush. -- Alan
RE: [newbie] 7.2
Philomena, Could you please not list the specs of your system? The drool is terrible for my keyboard... -Original Message- From: philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] 7.2 I downloaded the 7.2 iso images and had no problem at all with the install - I had all kinds of problems with 7.1 - wasn't stable or reliable for me at all. My specs are: 1Gz Athlon, 384 mgs RAM, 40 gb drive, SBLive! sound, NVidia GEforce 256 video, princeton flatscreen monitor, external 3COM dsl modem, internal zip and CDRW, HP Deskjet 950C 7.2 detected and configured all successfully - the first time that has happened to me with any distro, and I've tried versions of quite a few. So, in my book, 7.2 is great. - my 2cents cheers, philomena On Sunday 05 November 2000 05:53 pm, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite?
RE: [newbie] 7.2
I second that .. I only have a dual P166 with 128MB and 4 GB scsi -Original Message- From: Dodd Carlton J MSgt 726 ACS/CSG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 Philomena, Could you please not list the specs of your system? The drool is terrible for my keyboard... -Original Message- From: philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [newbie] 7.2 I downloaded the 7.2 iso images and had no problem at all with the install - I had all kinds of problems with 7.1 - wasn't stable or reliable for me at all. My specs are: 1Gz Athlon, 384 mgs RAM, 40 gb drive, SBLive! sound, NVidia GEforce 256 video, princeton flatscreen monitor, external 3COM dsl modem, internal zip and CDRW, HP Deskjet 950C 7.2 detected and configured all successfully - the first time that has happened to me with any distro, and I've tried versions of quite a few. So, in my book, 7.2 is great. - my 2cents cheers, philomena On Sunday 05 November 2000 05:53 pm, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite?
Re: [newbie] 7.2
"Sparks, Charley" wrote: I second that .. I only have a dual P166 with 128MB and 4 GB scsi -Original Message- From: Dodd Carlton J MSgt 726 ACS/CSG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 Philomena, Could you please not list the specs of your system? The drool is terrible for my keyboard... -Original Message- From: philomena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 I downloaded the 7.2 iso images and had no problem at all with the install - I had all kinds of problems with 7.1 - wasn't stable or reliable for me at all. My specs are: 1Gz Athlon, 384 mgs RAM, 40 gb drive, SBLive! sound, NVidia GEforce 256 video, princeton flatscreen monitor, external 3COM dsl modem, internal zip and CDRW, HP Deskjet 950C 7.2 detected and configured all successfully - the first time that has happened to me with any distro, and I've tried versions of quite a few. So, in my book, 7.2 is great. - my 2cents cheers, philomena On Sunday 05 November 2000 05:53 pm, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite? I third that, I ate my mouse while reading your specs. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux user #180842
RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
Hi Roman, The kernels are cooking nicely. I've got a 2.4.0 just sitting her waiting on me to learn how to operate iptables so that I can start using it. As yet I haven't read the material to figure out iptables and how to use them to construct and run a good firewall. That kernel and above do not use ipchains. Another great adventure. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 Romanator had this to say! Hi Mark, I have an NVIDIA 32 Meg. card and it sure helps me. By the way, how goes the kernel compilation? Roman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Hi Roman, Increasing video RAM takes more of the load off your processor and speeds up video quite nicely. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sun, 5 Nov 2000 Romanator had this to say! Can increasing your video RAM help? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Most definately..you need more RAM. At least 64 to run things confortably. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Larry Marshall had this to say! I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple prob lems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, You've got some sort of problem with the installation as linuxconfig should take only a few seconds to load. It takes only 2 seconds for the control center to load on my 500mhz machine. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram 32megs isn't very much to run these modern versions of X+window_manager. there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey Again, there's a problem with your setup as it's nice and colorful here. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] 7.2 mandrake
Alan Shoemaker wrote: chronos wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to say that I have purchased 7.2 at wallmart and the install went perfectly. I did not have one problem at all. One small question where is the enlightenment window manager ? I didnt find it. Thank you, Chronos. Chronosenlightenment is on the 2nd (extension) CD. Chronosoops, I forgot to say that the 2nd (extension) CD doesn't come in the 'complete' boxed set. But you can download the enlightenment rpm or the whole 2nd (extension) CD iso for that matter or you can buy the 2nd (extension) CD for a few bucks from CheapBytes, Linux Mall, LSLetc. -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
Re: [newbie] 7.2 mandrake
I just wanted to say that I have purchased 7.2 at wallmart and the install went perfectly. I did not have one problem at all. One small question where is the enlightenment window manager ? I didnt find it. Don't know if it's there but you access it by setting up Gnome as your desktop and Enlightenment is added as the window manager. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] 7.2 mandrake
Hi all, I just wanted to say that I have purchased 7.2 at wallmart and the install went perfectly. I did not have one problem at all. One small question where is the enlightenment window manager ? I didnt find it. Thank you, Chronos. Chronosenlightenment is on the 2nd (extension) CD. Since you're unwilling to say it (grin) Alan, I will. The extension CD doesn't come in the Walmart package. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] 7.2 Power Pack
What prompted the question is that the present Mandrake 7.2 seems very incomplete. I had a perfectly functional 7.1 system but decided to install 7.2. The install went smoothly but the resulting system is very buggy. The Kmenu has numerous duplicate entries and numerous entries that do not work including several that used to work in kde1 (from 7.1). Things such as xscreensaver, gkrellm, locate, etc. etc. Incidentally I did not do an "upgrade" having been warned that that had problems. I therefore formatted the main partition (keeping my /home/ user/local and /opt partitions) and did a "fresh" install. I am reverting to 7.1 till they figure out all the bugs. Incidentally both the "recommended" and the "custom" installs did not ask for the additional CDs like the 7.1 install did. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 Power Pack Not that I know of. I'm curious to see it also. Is there a listing somewhere of the apps in the Mandrake 7.2 PowerPack additional CDs? Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
Hi Mark, I have an NVIDIA 32 Meg. card and it sure helps me. By the way, how goes the kernel compilation? Roman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 10:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Hi Roman, Increasing video RAM takes more of the load off your processor and speeds up video quite nicely. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sun, 5 Nov 2000 Romanator had this to say! Can increasing your video RAM help? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Most definately..you need more RAM. At least 64 to run things confortably. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Larry Marshall had this to say! I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple prob lems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, You've got some sort of problem with the installation as linuxconfig should take only a few seconds to load. It takes only 2 seconds for the control center to load on my 500mhz machine. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram 32megs isn't very much to run these modern versions of X+window_manager. there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey Again, there's a problem with your setup as it's nice and colorful here. Cheers --- Larry
RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
A 500 MHz processor speed should be fine. I didn't think anyone used 32 Megs of Ram anymore. :) In my view, 32 isn't enough for Windoze, Linux or anything else. I went from 64 to 128 recently and it was a large difference in speed. Do yourself a favor and get more memory. Regardless of what OS you're using you'll find it a good investment. Netscape is Netscape and they all look the same in a sense. You may have just clicked on a link and brought up the internal browser in KDE. -Greg- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple problems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, whether it is in KDE 2 or Gnome. KDE 2 is extremely slower than Gnome. It takes around 2 minutes just to start linuxconf or the control center. If its me expecting to much I would like to know because it is driving me crazy. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram so I would think that should be good enough for linux. Also, Is there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey browser with all black buttons, It was the same way in 7.0. If anyone knows how to fix these I would be grateful.Matt Mahoney Mathew Mahoney Arclight Internet Solutions Web Developer / Owner Phone : 801.968.0574 Fax : 801.968.0350 www.arclightdesign.net
RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
Can increasing your video RAM help? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Most definately..you need more RAM. At least 64 to run things confortably. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Larry Marshall had this to say! I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple prob lems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, You've got some sort of problem with the installation as linuxconfig should take only a few seconds to load. It takes only 2 seconds for the control center to load on my 500mhz machine. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram 32megs isn't very much to run these modern versions of X+window_manager. there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey Again, there's a problem with your setup as it's nice and colorful here. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] 7.2
On Sunday 05 November 2000 10:53 am, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite? I've installed 7.2 on three machines and this is the general and specific conclusions I have regarding Mandrake 7.2. So far the stability with a " sane " installation seems to be as good or better than previous versions of Mandrake. What I mean by a sane installation is to try and pick configurations that make sense. IE; don't try and setup a GeForce2 video card with XFree86 ver 3.3.6. What problems I've had with 7.2 deal with issues that have to be dealt with no matter which distribution you are using. here is an example. On one of the machines I have a USR/3Com model 2977 PCI/Hardware/PNP modem. This means it is NOT a winmodem but has the lovely PNP setup. No nice jumpers to tell it to go to comX. Nope I had to edit the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file and add a setserial statement, to get this modem to work. What is really interesting is that this modem under Windows will only setup as a com5 modem. I sucessfully tried two different com ports and got both (not at once, of course) to work under Mandrake 7.2. There still is the issue of the GeForce2 3dAcceleration drivers from Nvidia, but again, these are not open-source so I wouldn't expect Mandrake to be expected to include them. In any case I've only had a complete copy of Mandrake 7.2 myself for about 16 hours and have already been able to work through most of the issues involved with this distribution. On one of my machnes that had this hardware; tyan tiger 133 dual processor dual PIII cpus Matrox G400 video Dual IBM drives ATAPI CDR Jumpered USR modem. Hitachi CM715 monitor I had no issues setting up any of the hardware. It all worked out of the box with the only configuration being the normal ones to set; the time zone, my dial-up connection x-resolution and color depth what software I wanted in this machine language and so on. Just questions that any distro would have to ask. It even picked up a sensible setting for the monitor. I'd use it if I were you. -- Douglas Moreen email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone 406-375-0566 web http://www.allboot.com mailAllBoot.Com 814 Priscilla Way Hamilton, MT 59840
Re: [newbie] 7.2
I downloaded the 7.2 iso images and had no problem at all with the install - I had all kinds of problems with 7.1 - wasn't stable or reliable for me at all. My specs are: 1Gz Athlon, 384 mgs RAM, 40 gb drive, SBLive! sound, NVidia GEforce 256 video, princeton flatscreen monitor, external 3COM dsl modem, internal zip and CDRW, HP Deskjet 950C 7.2 detected and configured all successfully - the first time that has happened to me with any distro, and I've tried versions of quite a few. So, in my book, 7.2 is great. - my 2cents cheers, philomena On Sunday 05 November 2000 05:53 pm, you wrote: I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite?
Re: [newbie] 7.2
It's just the usual complaining and bug reports that you hear with every new release. My install went almost perfectly, and I have had no show stopping bugs while running or installing 7.2. Remember, you only hear about the installs that went bad, and not the installs that went off perfectly. I've been hearing alot about problems galore installing this or that...in v7.2 of Mandrake. What seems to be the problem with this version...hum? Should I just go out a buy 7.1 cause that one seems to be more stable and reliable...etc. ??? It looks like 7.2 has too many bugs in ite? -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit.
RE: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
Hi Roman, Increasing video RAM takes more of the load off your processor and speeds up video quite nicely. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sun, 5 Nov 2000 Romanator had this to say! Can increasing your video RAM help? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Most definately..you need more RAM. At least 64 to run things confortably. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Larry Marshall had this to say! I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple prob lems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, You've got some sort of problem with the installation as linuxconfig should take only a few seconds to load. It takes only 2 seconds for the control center to load on my 500mhz machine. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram 32megs isn't very much to run these modern versions of X+window_manager. there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey Again, there's a problem with your setup as it's nice and colorful here. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] 7.2 mandrake
chronos wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to say that I have purchased 7.2 at wallmart and the install went perfectly. I did not have one problem at all. One small question where is the enlightenment window manager ? I didnt find it. Thank you, Chronos. Chronosenlightenment is on the 2nd (extension) CD. -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
Increasing video RAM would only make a noticible difference if you have under 4MB as it is. I think your best bet would be to increase your RAM to at least 128MB. The best way to speed up a system is to eliminate the use of its swap, since the hard drive is the slowest part of a system. When I initially installed Linux last year I had 64MB of RAM. I found my swap being constantly used, and I often heard much hard drive thrashing. After an upgrade to 192MB (that's an extra 128MB) I found that my Swap was almost never used, and my speed had increased massively. Other reasons to increase your RAM to at least 128MB include: 1. Less swap accesses reduces wear and tear on your drive. 2. You really cannot reach your processor's full potential with only 32MB RAM. 3. Linux used unused RAM to cache the hard drive, speeding up hard drive accesses. The best thing to do is follow the rule: the best swap space is unused swap space. On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 04:24, Romanator wrote: Can increasing your video RAM help? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow Most definately..you need more RAM. At least 64 to run things confortably. -- Mark Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle... WITH WARTS! registered linux user # 182496 =/\= PINE 4.21 =/\= ** Surprisingly on Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Larry Marshall had this to say! I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple prob lems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, You've got some sort of problem with the installation as linuxconfig should take only a few seconds to load. It takes only 2 seconds for the control center to load on my 500mhz machine. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram 32megs isn't very much to run these modern versions of X+window_manager. there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey Again, there's a problem with your setup as it's nice and colorful here. Cheers --- Larry -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "One World, One Web, One Programme." - Microsoft Promotional Ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler
Re: [newbie] 7.2 is painfully slow
I have just changed over from Corel to Mandrake 7.2. I have had a couple prob lems with it. Has anyone else felt that it is very slow, You've got some sort of problem with the installation as linuxconfig should take only a few seconds to load. It takes only 2 seconds for the control center to load on my 500mhz machine. Its possible it could my computer not having enough power also but I dont know. Its a Pentium 500 with 32 megs ram 32megs isn't very much to run these modern versions of X+window_manager. there anyway of Netscape look nice and colorful. Every linux Distro I used has a nice looking Netscape that has colors. Mandrake has this boring grey Again, there's a problem with your setup as it's nice and colorful here. Cheers --- Larry
