Re: [newbie-it] scelta firewall
Alle 23:51, sabato 21 settembre 2002, hai scritto: buonasera a tutti. vorrei un consiglio su quale firewall installare sul mio pc mand 8.2. il pc è standalone per solo uso personale domestico. si connette ad internet via normalissimo modem prossimamente spero via adsl sulle distro (8.2 download e 8.1 powerpack) ce ne sono vari bastille? guarddog? firestarter? shorewall? le mie esigenze sono UNA SOLA: che sia FACILE e rapido da installare e IDIOTA da usare. poi se non è il massimo della sicurezza non mi interssa. l'importante è non perdere tempo a configurare. se ne avete installato qualcuno e potete consigliarmi grazie. qui si passa la vita a configurare, configurare, configurare... ho fatto il programmatore per otto anni e non voglio più dedicare tempo in eccesso a questa scatola di latta. voglio solo usare e solo interfacce grafiche, per principio. perdonate lo sfogo. rigrazie. ciao. ..Beh, Bastille dovrebbe essere il firewall installato di deafault per mdk. Lo puoi attivare con un paio di semplici cliccate direttamente dal Mandrake Control Center. Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] scelta firewall
Fabio Manunza wrote: Alle 23:51, sabato 21 settembre 2002, hai scritto: buonasera a tutti. vorrei un consiglio su quale firewall installare sul mio pc mand 8.2. il pc è standalone per solo uso personale domestico. si connette ad internet via normalissimo modem prossimamente spero via adsl sulle distro (8.2 download e 8.1 powerpack) ce ne sono vari bastille? guarddog? firestarter? shorewall? le mie esigenze sono UNA SOLA: che sia FACILE e rapido da installare e IDIOTA da usare. poi se non è il massimo della sicurezza non mi interssa. l'importante è non perdere tempo a configurare. se ne avete installato qualcuno e potete consigliarmi grazie. qui si passa la vita a configurare, configurare, configurare... ho fatto il programmatore per otto anni e non voglio più dedicare tempo in eccesso a questa scatola di latta. voglio solo usare e solo interfacce grafiche, per principio. perdonate lo sfogo. rigrazie. ciao. ..Beh, Bastille dovrebbe essere il firewall installato di deafault per mdk. Lo puoi attivare con un paio di semplici cliccate direttamente dal Mandrake Control Center. Vale. Ciao, Guardog è recensito molto bene su linux pratico e potrebbe esserti utile. shorewall è alla base del mandrake security , quello che loro usano per la distro di sicurezza, ho provato ad usarlo con poco successo, ma io ho avuto problemi con routing della mia piccola lan domestica. bastille è molto semplice ma, mi è parso che sia stato un po' abbandonato. kmyfirewall è graficamente carino e semplice molto buono è anche turtlefirewall che si usa come modulo per webmin ed è un progetto italiano spero di esserti stato d'aiuto ciao francesco
Re: [newbie-it] in attesa di stampa
Grazie a tutti per le spiegazioni. Ogni volta si imparano cose nuove! Ciao Giorgio
Re: [newbie-it] R: ext2 - swap
Il mio intervento è OT, e anche in ritardo, ma poiché ho visto che si è parlato varie volte di defrag, mi pare che valga la pena di far presente quanto segue: per impostazione predefinita uindous, dal '98 in poi, esegue un defrag particolare, nel senso che sposta le parti dei programmi maggiormente utilizzati nei settori iniziali del disco fisso, perché sembra che questo acceleri l'esecuzione. In compenso il defrag viene rallentato in maniera mostruosa, per cui se si vuole impiegare meno di due giorni bisogna andare su avvio - programmi - accessori - utilità di sistema - utilità di deframmentazione dischi - impostazioni e lì deselezionare la casellina riorganizza i file dei programmi per un avvio più rapido. E' una delle tante assurdità che ti fanno venir voglia di cambiare sistema operativo. Ciao Giorgio
[newbie-it] Ram drive
Ciao a tutti, vorrei fare un ram drive, ma non so proprio da dove cominciare. Qualcuno può darmi una mano? Grazie a tutti, ENx
[newbie-it] Macromedia shockwave
Ho installato Linux mandrake 8.2 con Kernel 2.4.18-6 e KDE 2.2.2 ed utilizzo Konqueror come navigatore. Mi è capitato di recente durante alcune navigazioni (www.disney.it per fare un esempio) di vedermi aprire diverse finestre di Konqueror (7 e anche 8) con la richiesta di Macromedia di aggiornare il loro Flash Player 5 scaricandolo dal sito Macromedia. Ho provato a scaricarlo ma il problema si ripresenta di nuovo (in effetti l'unico scarico previsto per Linux riguarda il solo navigatore Netscape). Come posso fare per eliminare questo inconveniente ? Faccio presente che sono da poco passato a Linux e quindi mi farebbe piacere, anche se la cosa fosse una banalità, una risposta possibilmente comprensibile. Grazie e saluti a tutti. Francesco
[newbie] OpenOffice worry
From time to time I have had problems with an OO save, causing a spontaneous logout. The worry is that sometimes the save has completed OK before the logout, and sometimes the document is corrupted, making it difficult if not impossible to resurrect the data. For text documents I have laboriously opened them in a text editor and stripped out all control codes, saving the day, but I'm very worried about the possibility of losing crucial spreadsheet data. Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do about it? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500 Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. lilo append mem=nopentium Charles, could you tell me more about this? Is this something that all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using? Obviously this is there to avoid specific problems, what are they? TIA Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] e-mail agent
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:50:34 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Hi everyone, Been a long time since i've been in the mailing list. While everybody seems to have new version of mandrake, I still hang on the old version - Mandrake 8.0 . I was wondering if anyone know a good e-mail agent for the Gnome of that version. I have the Kmail 1.2 but i can't get my attachement I click on it but dont do nothing ...just maybe a URL. Thanks in advance. = I highly recommend sylpheed. Lightweight, very fast, configurable keybindings, and user friendly interface. Mike -- In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made School Boards. - Mark Twain, _Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ndivia TNT2 and UT2003
I've just updated my NVIDIA kernel and GLX drivers via RPM so i could try the new UT2003 demo . When i look in the Xfree86.0.log the kernel and the glx module are loaded correctly . But when i try to start the UT2003 demo the program exits and gives an error message : open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0 . OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support . I get the impression that the program is asking for something that my TNT2 card is not supporting , or could there be something missing in my libs ? I am running Mandrake 8.2 on a PIII 1GHz with a RIVA TNT2 64 vid. card and the NVIDIA driver 1.0-3132 The UT2003demo log file : Uninitialized: Log file open, Sun Sep 22 13:57:53 2002 Uninitialized: Initializing file manager Init: Name subsystem initialized Log: Your locale: [ISO-8859-1]. Init: Version: 1077 (120.28) Init: Compiled: Sep 13 2002 18:19:44 Init: Command line: Init: Base directory: /usr/local/games/ut2003_demo/System/ Init: Character set: Unicode Init: Build label: UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31] Log: Bound to Engine.so Log: Bound to Core.so Init: Object subsystem initialized Init: CPU Detected: PentiumPro-class processor (GenuineIntel) Init: CPU Features: CMov FPU RDTSC PAE MMX SSE Init: CPU Speed=996.831740 MHz Init: Unreal engine initialized Log: Bound to SDLDrv.so Init: Detected 0 joysticks Init: SDLClient initialized. Log: Bound to OpenGLDrv.so Init: Initializing OpenGLDrv... Log: binding libGL.so.1 Log: (Karma): Beginning Karma for game. Log: (Karma): Creating MeAssetDB. Log: (Karma): Loading: jugg.ka Log: (Karma): Finished Creating MeAssetDB (2 Assets). Log: LoadMap: Entry Log: Bound to XGame.so Log: Bound to IpDrv.so Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Log: Bound to Fire.so Warning: Missing Class Class Editor.TransBuffer Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleAHeadA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBBodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBHeadA Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes Log: Game class is 'GameInfo' Log: Level is Level Entry.myLevel Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777503.380377... ScriptLog: InitGame: ScriptLog: Base Mutator is Entry.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Browse: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: LoadMap: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: (Karma): Initialising Karma for Level. Log: Static mesh batches: 508608 vertex bytes, 110460 index bytes Log: Collecting garbage Log: Purging garbage Log: Garbage: objects: 15389-15350; refs: 149451 Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame' Log: Level is Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel Warning: Paths may not be valid. Log: Bringing Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777504.354440... ScriptLog: InitGame: ?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 ScriptLog: Base Mutator is NvidiaLogo.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Created and initialized a new SDL viewport. Log: Bound to XInterface.so Log: Bound to UWeb.so Log: Bound to ALAudio.so Init: ALAudio: no OpenAL devices found. Error: Audio initialization failed. ScriptLog: Team 255 ScriptLog: Login: Player Log: Possessed PlayerPawn: CinematicPlayer NvidiaLogo.CinematicPlayer Log: CinematicPlayer got player SDLViewport Error: Map NvidiaLogo.LevelInfo0 does not have an associated MUSIC track Log: No ScoreBoardType specified in GameInfo Init: Input system initialized for SDLViewport Log: Enter SetRes: 800x600 Fullscreen 1 Log: OpenGL Init: GL_VENDOR : NVIDIA Corporation Init: GL_RENDERER : RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE Init: GL_VERSION: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 31.23 Init: Device supports: GL Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_bgra Init: Device supports: GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias Init: Device supports: GL_ARB_multitexture Init: C32 RGB888 Z24 S8 Critical: OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support. Exit: Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError Exit: Executing USDLClient::ShutdownAfterError Exit: Exiting. Log: Waiting for file streaming thread to finish... Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down Uninitialized: Log file closed, Sun Sep 22 13:57:57 2002 Thanks for any ideas , Bart. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] e-mail agent
Michael Scottaline wrote: On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:50:34 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Hi everyone, Been a long time since i've been in the mailing list. While everybody seems to have new version of mandrake, I still hang on the old version - Mandrake 8.0 . I was wondering if anyone know a good e-mail agent for the Gnome of that version. I have the Kmail 1.2 but i can't get my attachement I click on it but dont do nothing ...just maybe a URL. Thanks in advance. = I highly recommend sylpheed. Lightweight, very fast, configurable keybindings, and user friendly interface. Mike After messing around with KMail and Evolution, I eventually settled for Mozilla. Current RPMs may not work on 8.0, but if they don't, you can always install from the tarball. The nice thing is that it's platform- and GUI-independent. It doesn't have all the Outlook-like features of Evolution, but it's still pretty configurable, and thanks to the ease (?) of XUL programming, Mozilla is developing at an impressive rate, so it's a good long-term investment. The one thing I really miss the ability to stop the mail client loading images (I have a lot of image-heavy Korean spam!). Sir Robin -- There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't - thinkgeek.com Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara 06533 http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ndivia TNT2 and UT2003
Umm, just an idea. Have you tried installing the Mesa-demos RPM from your CD's? They contain a few handy programs to see if your card is working. One that springs to mind is gears ... if that runs, then it's your soundcard (/dev/dsp) that's causing the problem here. If it doesn't then it's your config for your NVidia. On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Bart Salien wrote: I've just updated my NVIDIA kernel and GLX drivers via RPM so i could try the new UT2003 demo . Updated? YOU mean it was installed before and working fine with OpenGL games? open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy First problem. I had someone ask me this same question a few days ago, but I still don't know the solution to /dev/dsp . Mine works that I know, but if it was broken, I wouldn't have the first clue. Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0 . OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support . The rest here goes a bit too far for my advice (I could give it, but would probably be incorrect, so rather not). Maybe someone else on the list has better ideas here? I am running a GeForce 2 card with NVidia's drivers, and it's working great. That's all I can say here ;-) Critical: OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support. Umm, ok... probably important, but again... *shrug* Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
Greetings all,
I thought maybe I could do this, but it looks like I was mistaken.
I am trying to rebuild a source rpm, and having some problems. I have installed the
following packages on my 8.2 system so far in my noob attempts to rebuild src:
rpm-build, spec-helper, libtool, XFree86 devel, glibc-devel, kernel-headers, make,
gcc, binutils, libbinutils2, automake, autoconf, m4-1.4ppre2-2mdk...and still, no
fun!
Can anyone help me to do this rebuilding? I will attach the terminal output of my 'rpm
--rebuild fluxbox-0.1.12-1mdk.src.rpm' attempt. Also an error.txt file with some
additional info.
Many TIA's for any feedback.
--Angus
Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James
Thurber
Reg. Linux User #278931
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/bin/sh: g++: command not found
make[2]: *** [BaseDisplay.o] Error 127
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /home/angus/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.38256 (%build)
Bad exit status from /home/angus/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.38256 (%build)
Installing fluxbox-0.1.12-1mdk.src.rpm
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /home/angus/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.47325
Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /home/angus/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.38256
Remember to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.in'.
You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-gcc... i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc3
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-g++... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-c++... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-gpp... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-aCC... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-CC... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-cxx... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-cc++... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-cl... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-FCC... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-KCC... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-RCC... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-xlC_r... no
checking for i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-xlC... no
checking for g++... no
checking for c++... no
checking for gpp... no
checking for aCC... no
checking for CC... no
checking for cxx... no
checking for cc++... no
checking for cl... no
checking for FCC... no
checking for KCC... no
checking for RCC... no
checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
checking whether g++ accepts -g... no
checking dependency style of g++... none
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for sed... sed
checking how to run the C preprocessor... i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
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checking for unistd.h... yes
checking errno.h usability... yes
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checking ctype.h usability... yes
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checking dirent.h usability... yes
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checking fcntl.h usability... yes
checking fcntl.h presence... yes
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Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500 Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. lilo append mem=nopentium Charles, could you tell me more about this? Is this something that all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using? Obviously this is there to avoid specific problems, what are they? Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power supplies that are recommended by AMD http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance and reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU tho. So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU. 'Course overheating is always a suspect. FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option, never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86 driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests from system ram for the AGP card. If the video card has 16mb ram or more onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used anyhow. If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing problems, one quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in bios to 4mb. Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding and will somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance. For more on the AMD/AGP issue see, http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/ Note: There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue. This issue has *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors. ...and... Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP GART-mapped physical memory. IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I said, even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems without nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which BTW, now provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards. XFree86-4.2.1 included with Mdk 9.0. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 08:41 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings all, I thought maybe I could do this, but it looks like I was mistaken. I am trying to rebuild a source rpm, and having some problems. I have installed the following packages on my 8.2 system so far in my noob attempts to rebuild src: rpm-build, spec-helper, libtool, XFree86 devel, glibc-devel, kernel-headers, make, gcc, binutils, libbinutils2, automake, autoconf, m4-1.4ppre2-2mdk...and still, no fun! Can anyone help me to do this rebuilding? I will attach the terminal output of my 'rpm --rebuild fluxbox-0.1.12-1mdk.src.rpm' attempt. Also an error.txt file with some additional info. Many TIA's for any feedback. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 Have you installed kernel-source ? That one is needed for sure. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 - Thanks Dennis for the fast reply. No, I haven't installed the kernel-source. I didn't get any messages that it was needed. I will promptly install it, and try my rebuild again! Thanks a lot for the help! I will post back with my results. PS. Are all of the packages that I installed required to rebuild from src? I am a bit concerned about wasting space on my hd w/uneeded packages. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 -- __ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 08:41 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings all, I thought maybe I could do this, but it looks like I was mistaken. I am trying to rebuild a source rpm, and having some problems. I have installed the following packages on my 8.2 system so far in my noob attempts to rebuild src: rpm-build, spec-helper, libtool, XFree86 devel, glibc-devel, kernel-headers, make, gcc, binutils, libbinutils2, automake, autoconf, m4-1.4ppre2-2mdk...and still, no fun! Can anyone help me to do this rebuilding? I will attach the terminal output of my 'rpm --rebuild fluxbox-0.1.12-1mdk.src.rpm' attempt. Also an error.txt file with some additional info. Many TIA's for any feedback. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 Have you installed kernel-source ? That one is needed for sure. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
Have you installed kernel-source ? That one is needed for sure. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 - Thanks Dennis for the fast reply. No, I haven't installed the kernel-source. I didn't get any messages that it was needed. I will promptly install it, and try my rebuild again! Thanks a lot for the help! I will post back with my results. PS. Are all of the packages that I installed required to rebuild from src? I am a bit concerned about wasting space on my hd w/uneeded packages. I tried to install kernel-source for my kernel, which is 2.4.18-6mdk, with Software Manager. When I clicked on install, Software Manager was going to install kernel-source for 2.4.18-8.1mdk from my update site ftp.sunet.se!!! What is with that??? I didn't know what to do except XKill SM. I tried it again, and SM wanted to do the same thing...install kernel-source 2.4.18-8.1mdk. I'm stumped with this behaviour from SM. Any thoughts on this? --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 -- __ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ndivia TNT2 and UT2003
Unfortunately TNT2's don't support S3TC texture compression under Linux (It only works in windows because directx emulates it) So you're just gonna have to get a new video card which would have been a good idea anyway because UT2K3 would run REALLY slow on a TNT2. l8r, KIRT On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:30:17 +0200 Bart Salien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just updated my NVIDIA kernel and GLX drivers via RPM so i could try the new UT2003 demo . When i look in the Xfree86.0.log the kernel and the glx module are loaded correctly . But when i try to start the UT2003 demo the program exits and gives an error message : open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0 . OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support . I get the impression that the program is asking for something that my TNT2 card is not supporting , or could there be something missing in my libs ? I am running Mandrake 8.2 on a PIII 1GHz with a RIVA TNT2 64 vid. card and the NVIDIA driver 1.0-3132 The UT2003demo log file : Uninitialized: Log file open, Sun Sep 22 13:57:53 2002 Uninitialized: Initializing file manager Init: Name subsystem initialized Log: Your locale: [ISO-8859-1]. Init: Version: 1077 (120.28) Init: Compiled: Sep 13 2002 18:19:44 Init: Command line: Init: Base directory: /usr/local/games/ut2003_demo/System/ Init: Character set: Unicode Init: Build label: UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31] Log: Bound to Engine.so Log: Bound to Core.so Init: Object subsystem initialized Init: CPU Detected: PentiumPro-class processor (GenuineIntel) Init: CPU Features: CMov FPU RDTSC PAE MMX SSE Init: CPU Speed=996.831740 MHz Init: Unreal engine initialized Log: Bound to SDLDrv.so Init: Detected 0 joysticks Init: SDLClient initialized. Log: Bound to OpenGLDrv.so Init: Initializing OpenGLDrv... Log: binding libGL.so.1 Log: (Karma): Beginning Karma for game. Log: (Karma): Creating MeAssetDB. Log: (Karma): Loading: jugg.ka Log: (Karma): Finished Creating MeAssetDB (2 Assets). Log: LoadMap: Entry Log: Bound to XGame.so Log: Bound to IpDrv.so Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Log: Bound to Fire.so Warning: Missing Class Class Editor.TransBuffer Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleAHeadA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBBodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBHeadA Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes Log: Game class is 'GameInfo' Log: Level is Level Entry.myLevel Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777503.380377... ScriptLog: InitGame: ScriptLog: Base Mutator is Entry.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Browse: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: LoadMap: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: (Karma): Initialising Karma for Level. Log: Static mesh batches: 508608 vertex bytes, 110460 index bytes Log: Collecting garbage Log: Purging garbage Log: Garbage: objects: 15389-15350; refs: 149451 Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame' Log: Level is Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel Warning: Paths may not be valid. Log: Bringing Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777504.354440... ScriptLog: InitGame: ?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 ScriptLog: Base Mutator is NvidiaLogo.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Created and initialized a new SDL viewport. Log: Bound to XInterface.so Log: Bound to UWeb.so Log: Bound to ALAudio.so Init: ALAudio: no OpenAL devices found. Error: Audio initialization failed. ScriptLog: Team 255 ScriptLog: Login: Player Log: Possessed PlayerPawn: CinematicPlayer NvidiaLogo.CinematicPlayer Log: CinematicPlayer got player SDLViewport Error: Map NvidiaLogo.LevelInfo0 does not have an associated MUSIC track Log: No ScoreBoardType specified in GameInfo Init: Input system initialized for SDLViewport Log: Enter SetRes: 800x600 Fullscreen 1 Log: OpenGL Init: GL_VENDOR : NVIDIA Corporation Init: GL_RENDERER : RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE Init: GL_VERSION: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 31.23 Init: Device supports: GL Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_bgra Init: Device supports: GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias Init: Device supports: GL_ARB_multitexture Init: C32 RGB888 Z24 S8 Critical: OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support. Exit: Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError Exit: Executing USDLClient::ShutdownAfterError Exit: Exiting. Log: Waiting for file streaming thread to finish... Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down Uninitialized: Log file closed, Sun Sep 22 13:57:57 2002 Thanks for any ideas , Bart.
Re: [newbie] Ndivia TNT2 and UT2003
Op Sunday 22 September 2002 13:11, schreef u: I was expecting this a bit , the best choise at the moment would be a geforce3 or 4 because most supported under linux ? thkx for the answers . Bart. Unfortunately TNT2's don't support S3TC texture compression under Linux (It only works in windows because directx emulates it) So you're just gonna have to get a new video card which would have been a good idea anyway because UT2K3 would run REALLY slow on a TNT2. l8r, KIRT On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:30:17 +0200 Bart Salien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just updated my NVIDIA kernel and GLX drivers via RPM so i could try the new UT2003 demo . When i look in the Xfree86.0.log the kernel and the glx module are loaded correctly . But when i try to start the UT2003 demo the program exits and gives an error message : open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0 . OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support . I get the impression that the program is asking for something that my TNT2 card is not supporting , or could there be something missing in my libs ? I am running Mandrake 8.2 on a PIII 1GHz with a RIVA TNT2 64 vid. card and the NVIDIA driver 1.0-3132 The UT2003demo log file : Uninitialized: Log file open, Sun Sep 22 13:57:53 2002 Uninitialized: Initializing file manager Init: Name subsystem initialized Log: Your locale: [ISO-8859-1]. Init: Version: 1077 (120.28) Init: Compiled: Sep 13 2002 18:19:44 Init: Command line: Init: Base directory: /usr/local/games/ut2003_demo/System/ Init: Character set: Unicode Init: Build label: UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31] Log: Bound to Engine.so Log: Bound to Core.so Init: Object subsystem initialized Init: CPU Detected: PentiumPro-class processor (GenuineIntel) Init: CPU Features: CMov FPU RDTSC PAE MMX SSE Init: CPU Speed=996.831740 MHz Init: Unreal engine initialized Log: Bound to SDLDrv.so Init: Detected 0 joysticks Init: SDLClient initialized. Log: Bound to OpenGLDrv.so Init: Initializing OpenGLDrv... Log: binding libGL.so.1 Log: (Karma): Beginning Karma for game. Log: (Karma): Creating MeAssetDB. Log: (Karma): Loading: jugg.ka Log: (Karma): Finished Creating MeAssetDB (2 Assets). Log: LoadMap: Entry Log: Bound to XGame.so Log: Bound to IpDrv.so Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Log: Bound to Fire.so Warning: Missing Class Class Editor.TransBuffer Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleAHeadA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBBodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBHeadA Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes Log: Game class is 'GameInfo' Log: Level is Level Entry.myLevel Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777503.380377... ScriptLog: InitGame: ScriptLog: Base Mutator is Entry.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Browse: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: LoadMap: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: (Karma): Initialising Karma for Level. Log: Static mesh batches: 508608 vertex bytes, 110460 index bytes Log: Collecting garbage Log: Purging garbage Log: Garbage: objects: 15389-15350; refs: 149451 Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame' Log: Level is Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel Warning: Paths may not be valid. Log: Bringing Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777504.354440... ScriptLog: InitGame: ?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 ScriptLog: Base Mutator is NvidiaLogo.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Created and initialized a new SDL viewport. Log: Bound to XInterface.so Log: Bound to UWeb.so Log: Bound to ALAudio.so Init: ALAudio: no OpenAL devices found. Error: Audio initialization failed. ScriptLog: Team 255 ScriptLog: Login: Player Log: Possessed PlayerPawn: CinematicPlayer NvidiaLogo.CinematicPlayer Log: CinematicPlayer got player SDLViewport Error: Map NvidiaLogo.LevelInfo0 does not have an associated MUSIC track Log: No ScoreBoardType specified in GameInfo Init: Input system initialized for SDLViewport Log: Enter SetRes: 800x600 Fullscreen 1 Log: OpenGL Init: GL_VENDOR : NVIDIA Corporation Init: GL_RENDERER : RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE Init: GL_VERSION: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 31.23 Init: Device supports: GL Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_bgra Init: Device supports: GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias Init: Device supports: GL_ARB_multitexture Init: C32 RGB888 Z24 S8 Critical: OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support.
Re: [newbie] Ndivia TNT2 and UT2003
Op Sunday 22 September 2002 15:40, schreef u: I have installed the mesa-demos now and tried the gears program and it works fine . As far as i can hear my sound card is working ok , it is a PCI 128 and it works when i play tuxracer and when using XMMS . Until now i nerver played any openGL games under linux . Umm, just an idea. Have you tried installing the Mesa-demos RPM from your CD's? They contain a few handy programs to see if your card is working. One that springs to mind is gears ... if that runs, then it's your soundcard (/dev/dsp) that's causing the problem here. If it doesn't then it's your config for your NVidia. On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Bart Salien wrote: I've just updated my NVIDIA kernel and GLX drivers via RPM so i could try the new UT2003 demo . Updated? YOU mean it was installed before and working fine with OpenGL games? open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy First problem. I had someone ask me this same question a few days ago, but I still don't know the solution to /dev/dsp . Mine works that I know, but if it was broken, I wouldn't have the first clue. Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0 . OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support . The rest here goes a bit too far for my advice (I could give it, but would probably be incorrect, so rather not). Maybe someone else on the list has better ideas here? I am running a GeForce 2 card with NVidia's drivers, and it's working great. That's all I can say here ;-) Critical: OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support. Umm, ok... probably important, but again... *shrug* Greetings Ralph Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 09:35 am, Angus Auld wrote: On Sunday 22 September 2002 08:41 am, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings all, I thought maybe I could do this, but it looks like I was mistaken. I am trying to rebuild a source rpm, and having some problems. I have installed the following packages on my 8.2 system so far in my noob attempts to rebuild src: rpm-build, spec-helper, libtool, XFree86 devel, glibc-devel, kernel-headers, make, gcc, binutils, libbinutils2, automake, autoconf, m4-1.4ppre2-2mdk...and still, no fun! Can anyone help me to do this rebuilding? I will attach the terminal output of my 'rpm --rebuild fluxbox-0.1.12-1mdk.src.rpm' attempt. Also an error.txt file with some additional info. Many TIA's for any feedback. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 Have you installed kernel-source ? That one is needed for sure. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 - Thanks Dennis for the fast reply. No, I haven't installed the kernel-source. I didn't get any messages that it was needed. I will promptly install it, and try my rebuild again! Thanks a lot for the help! I will post back with my results. PS. Are all of the packages that I installed required to rebuild from src? I am a bit concerned about wasting space on my hd w/uneeded packages. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 The only one I don't seem to have installed is make and that is needed for tar files, so I should add it, but I just noticed you didn't list rpm-rebuilder and that should be added. With the header-source and rpm-rebuilder you should be able to install source files. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 10:09 am, Angus Auld wrote: Have you installed kernel-source ? That one is needed for sure. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 - Thanks Dennis for the fast reply. No, I haven't installed the kernel-source. I didn't get any messages that it was needed. I will promptly install it, and try my rebuild again! Thanks a lot for the help! I will post back with my results. PS. Are all of the packages that I installed required to rebuild from src? I am a bit concerned about wasting space on my hd w/uneeded packages. I tried to install kernel-source for my kernel, which is 2.4.18-6mdk, with Software Manager. When I clicked on install, Software Manager was going to install kernel-source for 2.4.18-8.1mdk from my update site ftp.sunet.se!!! What is with that??? I didn't know what to do except XKill SM. I tried it again, and SM wanted to do the same thing...install kernel-source 2.4.18-8.1mdk. I'm stumped with this behaviour from SM. Any thoughts on this? --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 You have an older rpm on the disk and Software Manager sees this since you have the updates or security or bug fix buttons activated. I think you will be fine if you just let it go. It may be a more secure rpm or have a bug fixed in it. It should still be ok. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ndivia TNT2 and UT2003
On Sunday 22 September 2002 10:39 am, Bart Salien wrote: Op Sunday 22 September 2002 13:11, schreef u: I was expecting this a bit , the best choise at the moment would be a geforce3 or 4 because most supported under linux ? thkx for the answers . Bart. Unfortunately TNT2's don't support S3TC texture compression under Linux (It only works in windows because directx emulates it) So you're just gonna have to get a new video card which would have been a good idea anyway because UT2K3 would run REALLY slow on a TNT2. l8r, KIRT On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 14:30:17 +0200 Bart Salien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just updated my NVIDIA kernel and GLX drivers via RPM so i could try the new UT2003 demo . When i look in the Xfree86.0.log the kernel and the glx module are loaded correctly . But when i try to start the UT2003 demo the program exits and gives an error message : open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0 . OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support . I get the impression that the program is asking for something that my TNT2 card is not supporting , or could there be something missing in my libs ? I am running Mandrake 8.2 on a PIII 1GHz with a RIVA TNT2 64 vid. card and the NVIDIA driver 1.0-3132 The UT2003demo log file : Uninitialized: Log file open, Sun Sep 22 13:57:53 2002 Uninitialized: Initializing file manager Init: Name subsystem initialized Log: Your locale: [ISO-8859-1]. Init: Version: 1077 (120.28) Init: Compiled: Sep 13 2002 18:19:44 Init: Command line: Init: Base directory: /usr/local/games/ut2003_demo/System/ Init: Character set: Unicode Init: Build label: UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31] Log: Bound to Engine.so Log: Bound to Core.so Init: Object subsystem initialized Init: CPU Detected: PentiumPro-class processor (GenuineIntel) Init: CPU Features: CMov FPU RDTSC PAE MMX SSE Init: CPU Speed=996.831740 MHz Init: Unreal engine initialized Log: Bound to SDLDrv.so Init: Detected 0 joysticks Init: SDLClient initialized. Log: Bound to OpenGLDrv.so Init: Initializing OpenGLDrv... Log: binding libGL.so.1 Log: (Karma): Beginning Karma for game. Log: (Karma): Creating MeAssetDB. Log: (Karma): Loading: jugg.ka Log: (Karma): Finished Creating MeAssetDB (2 Assets). Log: LoadMap: Entry Log: Bound to XGame.so Log: Bound to IpDrv.so Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Log: Bound to Fire.so Warning: Missing Class Class Editor.TransBuffer Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleABodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleAHeadA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBBodyA Warning: Missing Texture Texture PlayerSkins.JuggFemaleBHeadA Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes Log: Game class is 'GameInfo' Log: Level is Level Entry.myLevel Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777503.380377... ScriptLog: InitGame: ScriptLog: Base Mutator is Entry.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Browse: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: LoadMap: NvidiaLogo.ut2?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 Log: (Karma): Initialising Karma for Level. Log: Static mesh batches: 508608 vertex bytes, 110460 index bytes Log: Collecting garbage Log: Purging garbage Log: Garbage: objects: 15389-15350; refs: 149451 Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame' Log: Level is Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel Warning: Paths may not be valid. Log: Bringing Level NvidiaLogo.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 16777504.354440... ScriptLog: InitGame: ?Name=Player?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Gorge?team=255 ScriptLog: Base Mutator is NvidiaLogo.Mutator ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False Log: 0 ANTIPORTALS Log: Created and initialized a new SDL viewport. Log: Bound to XInterface.so Log: Bound to UWeb.so Log: Bound to ALAudio.so Init: ALAudio: no OpenAL devices found. Error: Audio initialization failed. ScriptLog: Team 255 ScriptLog: Login: Player Log: Possessed PlayerPawn: CinematicPlayer NvidiaLogo.CinematicPlayer Log: CinematicPlayer got player SDLViewport Error: Map NvidiaLogo.LevelInfo0 does not have an associated MUSIC track Log: No ScoreBoardType specified in GameInfo Init: Input system initialized for SDLViewport Log: Enter SetRes: 800x600 Fullscreen 1 Log: OpenGL Init: GL_VENDOR : NVIDIA Corporation Init: GL_RENDERER : RIVA TNT2/AGP/SSE Init: GL_VERSION: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 31.23 Init: Device supports: GL Init: Device supports: GL_EXT_bgra Init: Device supports: GL_NV_texture_env_combine4
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 9:09 am, Angus Auld wrote: Have you installed kernel-source ? That one is needed for sure. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 - Thanks Dennis for the fast reply. No, I haven't installed the kernel-source. I didn't get any messages that it was needed. I will promptly install it, and try my rebuild again! Thanks a lot for the help! I will post back with my results. PS. Are all of the packages that I installed required to rebuild from src? I am a bit concerned about wasting space on my hd w/uneeded packages. I tried to install kernel-source for my kernel, which is 2.4.18-6mdk, with Software Manager. When I clicked on install, Software Manager was going to install kernel-source for 2.4.18-8.1mdk from my update site ftp.sunet.se!!! What is with that??? I didn't know what to do except XKill SM. I tried it again, and SM wanted to do the same thing...install kernel-source 2.4.18-8.1mdk. I'm stumped with this behaviour from SM. Any thoughts on this? --Angus You're getting close Angus but the kernel you're running is apparently the original 8.2 install kernel and there was an update. The 2.4.18-8.1mdk is the security updated model. The was a notification about this a few months back. This link: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/2002/MDKSA-2002-041.php?dis=8.2 will show the necessary updates and the version numbers to update to. 8.2 is roughly two thirds of the way down the page. The src package the software manager is trying to install is the one in the advisory. Have you been keeping up to date on bugfixes and security fixes? Are you actually still running the older kernel or has it been updated? Try in a terminal typing: uname -r and the version of your running kernel should display. You really don't want to run any mismatches (voice of past experience here :-) when it's easy to get everything current and matched. But you should be running the version that matches the software manager selection in my opinion. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
--- I tried to install kernel-source for my kernel, which is 2.4.18-6mdk, with Software Manager. When I clicked on install, Software Manager was going to install kernel-source for 2.4.18-8.1mdk from my update site ftp.sunet.se!!! What is with that??? I didn't know what to do except XKill SM. I tried it again, and SM wanted to do the same thing...install kernel-source 2.4.18-8.1mdk. I'm stumped with this behaviour from SM. Any thoughts on this? --Angus You're getting close Angus but the kernel you're running is apparently the original 8.2 install kernel and there was an update. The 2.4.18-8.1mdk is the security updated model. The was a notification about this a few months back. This link: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/2002/MDKSA-2002-041.php?dis=8.2 will show the necessary updates and the version numbers to update to. 8.2 is roughly two thirds of the way down the page. The src package the software manager is trying to install is the one in the advisory. Have you been keeping up to date on bugfixes and security fixes? Are you actually still running the older kernel or has it been updated? Try in a terminal typing: uname -r and the version of your running kernel should display. You really don't want to run any mismatches (voice of past experience here :-) when it's easy to get everything current and matched. But you should be running the version that matches the software manager selection in my opinion. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org A computer without COBOL and Fortran is like a piece of chocolate cake without ketchup and mustard. - Thanks for the valuable info Charlie, I am indeed still running the original 2.4.18-6 kernel. I've only been running Mdk, and Linux in fact, for a few short months now. I guess I missed the update notice from Mdk. That looks like it's going to be a formidable task to update all those packages on a dialup. I have been keeping my system updated w/security and bugfixes that I thought were applicable to me. Do I have to install each of the listed packages manually, or will rpm install them if I update the kernel?? I'm really nervous to mess with the kernel, after reading warnings of danger if you don't know what you're doing (and, I don't know a lot about what I'm doing). Please, if you don't mind, advise. Thanks much. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 -- __ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice worry
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:12:47 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From time to time I have had problems with an OO save, causing a spontaneous logout. The worry is that sometimes the save has completed OK before the logout, and sometimes the document is corrupted, making it difficult if not impossible to resurrect the data. For text documents I have laboriously opened them in a text editor and stripped out all control codes, saving the day, but I'm very worried about the possibility of losing crucial spreadsheet data. Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do about it? I've never experienced those sorts of problems. Tell more about your instalation (this is standard for the download from OOorg: 1. Network install (# ./setup -net) to e.g. /opt/OOo101/ 2. Workstation install ($ ./setup from /opt/OOo101/) to /home/user/OOo101 regards, Richard. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] E mail bounces
I am trying to reply to an e mail from a friend but I get the following bounce message:- Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; freemail.asda.gr (194.219.142.49) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.0.0 Spaming or open relays not allowed. This comes from my ISP (NTL broadband in the UK) The part that confuses me is the reference to open relays, how can I check this and resolve it if necessary ? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500 Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. lilo append mem=nopentium Charles, could you tell me more about this? Is this something that all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using? Obviously this is there to avoid specific problems, what are they? Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power supplies that are recommended by AMD http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance and reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU tho. So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU. 'Course overheating is always a suspect. FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option, never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86 driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests from system ram for the AGP card. If the video card has 16mb ram or more onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used anyhow. If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing problems, one quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in bios to 4mb. Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding and will somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance. For more on the AMD/AGP issue see, http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/ Note: There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue. This issue has *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors. ...and... Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP GART-mapped physical memory. IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I said, even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems without nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which BTW, now provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards. XFree86-4.2.1 included with Mdk 9.0. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com This is all very interesting to me. By the way how and where exactly would I append Lilo with the 'lilo append mem=nopentium'? I would very much like to try this option since I continue to have to reboot to get most things working. Would it be worth it for me to get XFree86-4.2.1? I know I am not having overheating problems. I have extra cooling. I have Windows 95 as a dual boot and it seems to do fine. I am a newbie still and I need exact instructions. Thank you very much for your ideas and input. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] E mail bounces
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 18:11, Poogle wrote: I am trying to reply to an e mail from a friend but I get the following bounce message:- Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; freemail.asda.gr (194.219.142.49) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.0.0 Spaming or open relays not allowed. This comes from my ISP (NTL broadband in the UK) The part that confuses me is the reference to open relays, how can I check this and resolve it if necessary ? I've had endless trouble (as a listmaster) in the past with NTL email subscribers, although I haven't seen this sort of problem for a few months :( The usual meaning of 'open relay' is that someone logged in at a.com is trying to send an email to someone at c.com via a SMTP server at b.com (rather than a.com); this can be used for dubious purposes, as it makes the message appear to come from b.com rather than a.com, and is usually blocked by b.com with the type of message you see being returned. asda.gr seems to think that you, at ntlworld.com, are using asda.gr (rather than ntlworld.com) as the downstream SMTP server. From previous experience, this is because NTL is trying to be clever (for obscure reasons best known to itself) and rewrite email headers ... Unfortunately there's no obvious cure apart from resending until it works; I've had arguments in the past trying to get NTL to just handle email as it is. Alastair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] giving up the ship?
I stopped ipchains with service ipchains stop then service iptables start, but its still broken. Is ipchains broken? Why is this software defective and how do I fix it? I wish they would write software that works, this is very frustrating when someone can't write proper software! :( ... ]# iptables -A INPUT -s 65.192.141.115 -j DROP /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod ip_tables failed iptables v1.2.5: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. [root@localhost Desktop]# __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Importing fonts from that other OS...
Hi, I've been importing fonts from that other OS (toOS hereafter :) several times in Red Hat 7.3, using KDE's utility from the Control Center. The process has always been smooth and easy, and not only did KDE apps work fine with those fonts, but also Mozilla and other generic X apps would show perfect, un-ugly fonts. When I got Mandrake 9 RC2 I found another font utility, drakfont. I imported fonts with that one, but it froze (or so I think) and I had to complete the process manually, using several X and xfs commands from the shell. I was able to use the imported fonts in KDE apps, but in X apps such as Mozilla they look, well, ugly, albeit anti-aliased by the desktop manager. I tried to over-import the fonts using the old KDE utility, to no avail. I have yet to try and use the KDE font utility first in Mandrake, so has anyone had the same experience importing fonts from toOS? Can anyone confirm the KDE utility works better than drake's? Thanks in advance for any feedback, -- marco baciarello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ping flood?
If your machine is reasonably current (300Mhz or faster, 128MB+ RAM), then I would have to suspect a distributed attack via a virus or worm. Maybe. There were a large number of different, seemingly random, hosts all trying port 4156. Portsentry seems to be the way to get rid of these, and all the hosts it reported are now blocked. I just had to do a little reading and edit the config file. I'm back to normal, at least for now :). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:37:15 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For more on the AMD/AGP issue see, http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/ Note: There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue. This issue has *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors. ...and... Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP GART-mapped physical memory. This is the same AGP 'bug' for which AMD issued a Win2k patch and this 'bug' exists in the Linux 2.4 kernel series unless the kernel has been built for Athlon optimization. I may be be mistaken but do you not build your kernel, Tom? At any rate there are numerous threads on the kernel mailing list regarding this issue when AGP is used and the always recommended solution is to use mem=nopentium. In support of my position see: http://www.kickassgear.com/athlon-linux%20bug.htm If others are desired just do a google-linux search for mem=nopentium. I currently use mem=nopentium on my systems and can confirm that without this option random X lock-ups will occur if using the Nvidia driver, and on systems with the ATI Rage128 using either the ati or r128 driver if DRI is used. Even should men=nopentium be only a placebo I'll still take my medicine. Charles --- We don't smoke and we don't chew, and we don't go with girls that do. -- Walter Summers -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 10:39 am, Angus Auld wrote: snip Thanks for the valuable info Charlie, I am indeed still running the original 2.4.18-6 kernel. I've only been running Mdk, and Linux in fact, for a few short months now. I guess I missed the update notice from Mdk. That looks like it's going to be a formidable task to update all those packages on a dialup. I have been keeping my system updated w/security and bugfixes that I thought were applicable to me. Do I have to install each of the listed packages manually, or will rpm install them if I update the kernel?? I'm really nervous to mess with the kernel, after reading warnings of danger if you don't know what you're doing (and, I don't know a lot about what I'm doing). Please, if you don't mind, advise. Thanks much. --Angus You're askin' _me_ for advice? ;-) OK. You don't need anything to do with the 2.2.xx kernels since you aren't running that version and have probably never even tried to boot the old kernel anyway. It's still around as a legacy thing as far as I know. Almost all modern hardware is supported in the 2.4 series and that wasn't true of 2.2. So from the list you need only the 2.4.18 rpms. The devfsd also has to be upgraded manually and you have to disable the running version to do it. The easiest way to do the upgrades is to first open the file manager as super user, save a copy of etc/lilo/conf (just in case) and then edit lilo.conf with your favourite editor (kwrite, kate, emacs, vi, whatever you feel comfy with). Change the line that says append=devfs=mount to append=devfs=nomount. Done here for now. Close it all up back to userland. Download: a784430846ca56b52151b64f74744528 8.2/RPMS/devfsd-1.3.25-1.1mdk.i586.rpm 32969698f7badf0c3bc7fa3e4f278977 8.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.18.8.1mdk-1-3mdk.i586.rpm b40235a56e88bef36e827fd3baec374c 8.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.18-8.1mdk.i586.rpm from your update source server. That's still a sizeable download but manageable I suspect. It's trimmed so much 'cause you don't need enterprise, security, smp kernels or the 2.2 series. Be certain you know what directory you've saved them to! I have one I called downloads that is empty unless I'm working with something. Reboot your machine to be sure devfsd isn't running. (the =nomount, remember?) If you log into X automatically you'll want to kill X after you log in. altctrlbackspace should get you there. From the command prompt type su enter then type the root password enter then cd [the directory you saved the new kernel etc in] enter. From that command prompt type the following: rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.18.8.1mdk-1-3mdk.i586.rpm without quotes then hit enter. When that's done type again without quotes: rpm -Fvh devfsd-1.3.25-1.1mdk.i586.rpm enter and: rpm -Fvh kernel-source-2.4.18-8.1mdk.i586.rpm enter Then type: /sbin/lilo -v When these steps are done type exit and you should be back at the user command prompt. Type: startx enter and you'll be back in GUI space. Reverse the Lilo changes. Change the append=devfs=nomount back to append=devfs=mount in other words. Reboot and you should have the option to pick the original kernel or the new one, and you've already installed the kernel source package you wanted a few steps back. The software manager will upgrade the kernel documentation and other frivolous :-) items without problems when you run it in the usual manner. I know this is _way_ oversimplified and I hope nobody finds it offensive that this is so. Also; if I've left anything out, or made mistakes please correct and give me hell. I can do this stuff; it's the explanations I have trouble with. grin Good luck Angus. Later; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org There is nothing which cannot be answered by means of my doctrine, said a monk, coming into a teahouse where Nasrudin sat. And yet just a short time ago, I was challenged by a scholar with an unanswerable question, said Nasrudin. I could have answered it if I had been there. Very well. He asked, 'Why are you breaking into my house in the middle of the night?' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 07:24:46 -0500 Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all very interesting to me. By the way how and where exactly would I append Lilo with the 'lilo append mem=nopentium'? I would very much like to try this option since I continue to have to reboot to get most things working. Here is a copy of 1 of my kernel entries in lilo from /etc/lilo.conf image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk label=2419-16 root=/dev/hda5 read-only optional vga=788 append= devfs=mount hdg=ide-scsi hdh=ide-scsi mem=nopentium initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.19-16mdk.img After making and saving the change/changes be sure to run lilo. [root@localhost charles]# lilo Charles --- The sooner our happiness together begins, the longer it will last. -- Miramanee, The Paradise Syndrome, stardate 4842.6 -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice worry
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 4:30 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:12:47 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From time to time I have had problems with an OO save, causing a spontaneous logout. The worry is that sometimes the save has completed OK before the logout, and sometimes the document is corrupted, making it difficult if not impossible to resurrect the data. For text documents I have laboriously opened them in a text editor and stripped out all control codes, saving the day, but I'm very worried about the possibility of losing crucial spreadsheet data. Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do about it? I've never experienced those sorts of problems. Tell more about your instalation (this is standard for the download from OOorg: 1. Network install (# ./setup -net) to e.g. /opt/OOo101/ 2. Workstation install ($ ./setup from /opt/OOo101/) to /home/user/OOo101 regards, Richard. Anne This is going to sound really stupid: I can only half-remember installing it. I think it was from Mandrake's disk3. It's a user install, into usr/lib/openoffice, and the main files are dated 13/03/2002. Much of the time I have no problem, but just occasionally these crashes, which always seem to happen just as I am saving a file. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 3:37 pm, you wrote: On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500 Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. lilo append mem=nopentium Charles, could you tell me more about this? Is this something that all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using? Obviously this is there to avoid specific problems, what are they? Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power supplies that are recommended by AMD http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,0 0.html That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance and reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU tho. So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU. 'Course overheating is always a suspect. FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option, never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86 driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests from system ram for the AGP card. If the video card has 16mb ram or more onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used anyhow. If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing problems, one quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in bios to 4mb. Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding and will somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance. For more on the AMD/AGP issue see, http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/ Note: There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue. This issue has *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors. ...and... Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP GART-mapped physical memory. IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I said, even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems without nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which BTW, now provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards. XFree86-4.2.1 included with Mdk 9.0. Thank you - most helpful. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 12:12 pm, Charlie M. (the halfwit!) wrote: and you'll be back in GUI space. Reverse the Lilo changes. Change the append=devfs=nomount back to append=devfs=mount in other words. Reboot and you should have the option to pick the original kernel or the new one, and you've already installed the kernel source package you wanted a few steps back. The software manager will upgrade the kernel documentation and other frivolous :-) items without problems when you run it in the usual manner. BEFORE YOU REBOOT! in a terminal as super user type /sbin/lilo -v once more to reset the append line to what you just changed. Sorry about that! :-( -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. -- Aesop Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xcdroast revisited
Browsing Mandrakes 'update disk' I found this: %package xcdroast Update: Thu Apr 25 2002 11:28:15 Importance: bugfix %pre A problem was discovered with compatability between the version of cdrecord included in 8.2 and the version of xcdroast included. This update corrects the compatability issues and allows xcdroast to detect discs in CD-ROM drives. I wonder if that explains problems we talked about recently? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Tar or zip?
I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sounds scarey to me
Having looked through the update disk I can see a number of things that I would like to update, hoping that it would fix problems, but the whole thing looks really scarey. I mean, if I break one app that's not too bad. A little time lost, but I'll soon be up and running (fingers crossed), but talking about updating the kernel is a different cup of tea. If I break that I've had it. Just how risky is this? I presume it's necessary before doing any of the rest? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 20:05, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 7:54 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. Do I take it, then, that (once I have installed zip), I use zip font.zip list_of_files_separated_by_spaces ? Yes. Alastair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. WinZip will expand .tar.gz files, but painfully - in two steps and with a clunky user interface ... Alastair signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Tar or zip?
On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 7:54 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 19:34, Anne Wilson wrote: I need to send a collection of fonts (about a dozen in all) to a windows user. I thought a zip file would be the easiest way., but I'm not sure how to get a zip file in linux (Mdk 8.2). I thought I would temporarily copy the files into a separate directory so that I can zip all the files in the directory. Could someone please point me at the way? I think she has Winzip 8, so if I'm stuck, she could probably unzip a tar file. The easiest way is to install zip. unzip is already installed but, for some inscrutable reason, unzip isn't (on 9.0RC3). So urpmi zip then zip name of zip file.zip list of files will do the job. Do I take it, then, that (once I have installed zip), I use zip font.zip list_of_files_separated_by_spaces ? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Inporting informix DB to MySQL.
When you export a informix database you can use the dbexport command which will create a sql file with the constraints, indexes, triggers, etc for the import. Typical usage would be dbexport -i /directory/ -d database name Dan B - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: [newbie] Inporting informix DB to MySQL. Hi guys, I want to import a rather large Informix database into MySQL database.. anyone know if there is an easy way to do this? or will I have to recreate it manually??? rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
Marcia wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500 Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. lilo append mem=nopentium Charles, could you tell me more about this? Is this something that all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using? Obviously this is there to avoid specific problems, what are they? Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power supplies that are recommended by AMD http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance and reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU tho. So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU. 'Course overheating is always a suspect. FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option, never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86 driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests from system ram for the AGP card. If the video card has 16mb ram or more onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used anyhow. If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing problems, one quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in bios to 4mb. Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding and will somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance. For more on the AMD/AGP issue see, http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/ Note: There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue. This issue has *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors. ...and... Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP GART-mapped physical memory. IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I said, even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems without nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which BTW, now provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards. XFree86-4.2.1 included with Mdk 9.0. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com This is all very interesting to me. By the way how and where exactly would I append Lilo with the 'lilo append mem=nopentium'? I would very much like to try this option since I continue to have to reboot to get most things working. Would it be worth it for me to get XFree86-4.2.1? I know I am not having overheating problems. I have extra cooling. I have Windows 95 as a dual boot and it seems to do fine. I am a newbie still and I need exact instructions. Thank you very much for your ideas and input. Sincerely, Marcia /etc/lilo.conf, note the append= line, just add the mem=nopentium to it as follows, image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk label=82-2.4.18-6 root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi nobiospnp mem=nopentium vga=791 read-only don't worry about the extras Ihave, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. PC DETAILS: * System Summary * Hardware Processor: GenuineIntel Pentium(R) 167 MHz xB1 mxB1 Math Support: On Chip BIOS: Compaq 07/08/97 Bus Type: PCI Ports: 1 Parallel, 2 Serial Memory: 64.0 MB (63% Utilized) Floppy Disks: 1.44 MB Hard Disks: 3.02 GB Multimedia: CD-ROM Video: 800x600 in 64K Colors, S3 ViRGE-DX/GX PCI (375/385) Ver. 4.0 Operating System Windows:4.10 (Build A ) DOS:7.10 Net Clients: Microsoft Network * * Display Summary * * Monitor: AcerView 33D Video Chipset: S3 ViRGE-DX/GX PCI (375/385) Ver. 4.0 Resolution: 800x600 in 64K Colors Device Information Driver Version: 4.0 Technology: Raster display Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice worry
On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:23:52 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 4:30 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 11:12:47 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From time to time I have had problems with an OO save, causing a spontaneous logout. The worry is that sometimes the save has completed OK before the logout, and sometimes the document is corrupted, making it difficult if not impossible to resurrect the data. For text documents I have laboriously opened them in a text editor and stripped out all control codes, saving the day, but I'm very worried about the possibility of losing crucial spreadsheet data. Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do about it? I've never experienced those sorts of problems. Tell more about your instalation (this is standard for the download from OOorg: 1. Network install (# ./setup -net) to e.g. /opt/OOo101/ 2. Workstation install ($ ./setup from /opt/OOo101/) to /home/user/OOo101 regards, Richard. Anne This is going to sound really stupid: I can only half-remember installing it. I think it was from Mandrake's disk3. It's a user install, into usr/lib/openoffice, and the main files are dated 13/03/2002. Much of the time I have no problem, but just occasionally these crashes, which always seem to happen just as I am saving a file. Anne Probably the best thing is to upgrade to OOo101. From the date, you're probably using one of the more 'beta' files than 101. Fixed quite a few bugs --think I remember the random Crash on Save was one of them. Richard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
Carl J. Bauman wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: /etc/lilo.conf, note the append= line, just add the mem=nopentium to it as follows, image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk label=82-2.4.18-6 root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi nobiospnp mem=nopentium vga=791 read-only don't worry about the extras Ihave, John I noticed that http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hbits6.html#athlon contained the following caveat: Notice that if you are using SCSI emulation, e.g. for an IDE CD burner, the 'ide-scsi' option must come after the 'mem=nopentium' option (that is you have to insert that option before 'ide-scsi'). Otherwise the emulation might stop working correctly. I don't know if this is still true or not. Just thought I'd mention it. Regards, Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Thanks alot for this. I do have the scsi , so I will go and change this. It seems the mem=nopentium may have made a positive difference for my system even though it comes after the scsi entry. I am still checking on things and will let you know. Thanks alot again. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gimp
On Sunday 22 September 2002 12:42 pm, you wrote: Dear All, I really do not know if there is a connection but since I got my scanner working I cannot get Gimp to open anymore. It starts to and stops at /usr/lib/gimp-1.2plugins/miff or something close to this. The scanner works with the lib gimp plugin now , with xsane and with kooka. I am pleased about this since I had to apply the niash patch to the sane-backend as well as do some configuration to get my unsupported HP4300c scanjet (USB) working. Does anyone know how I can get the gimp to work again? Thanks for the help. Marcia I bet everyone would love to hear how you got the scanner to work, and maybe someone in the future will read the archives and be able to get their scanner working too... so... how did you do it? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
- On Sunday 22 September 2002 12:12 pm, Charlie M. (the halfwit!) wrote: and you'll be back in GUI space. Reverse the Lilo changes. Change the append=devfs=nomount back to append=devfs=mount in other words. Reboot and you should have the option to pick the original kernel or the new one, and you've already installed the kernel source package you wanted a few steps back. The software manager will upgrade the kernel documentation and other frivolous :-) items without problems when you run it in the usual manner. BEFORE YOU REBOOT! in a terminal as super user type /sbin/lilo -v once more to reset the append line to what you just changed. Sorry about that! :-( -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. -- Aesop - Charlie, thanks so much for the explanation of the whole procedure! I think I can do it now even! It's a bit intimidating, to be sure. I am pretty much committed to Linux at this point, and Mdk is where its at I believe. I am already running with devfsd-1,3.25-1.1mdk, which I upgraded a while back, will that simplify things some? I am dual booting w/Windows still (just makes me feel safer), but I hope to outgrow that soon! When I make the move to Mdk9, I may just go all Mdk. I really have been reverting back to MS very little the past while, and I feel quite good about that too. ;-) Does my dual-boot present any special concerns for the kernel upgrade? I have created a /tmp/kernel folder where I will download the necessary packages. I am thankful that I don't have to download all of the ones that were listed! I will start the process tonight. No doubt I will be looking for your learned advice again. All the best, and thank you again. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 -- __ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] bouncing messages with KMail
Has anyone had any luck using Kmails bounce feature with earthlink dsl? I'm pretty sure that the problem is that Kmail uses MAILER-DAEMON as the from address on the bounced mail and earthlink doesn't recognize that as a vaile from address. Anyone know of any work arounds? -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 http://counter.li.org 8:29pm up 1 day, 25 min, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.27, 0.50 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] S3 Virge DX/GX 375/385
S3 Virge can be a nightmare on Windows systems. The company that produced them is out of business. There are still drivers archived, although choosing the correct one must be done carefully. You probably will be o.k. updating for Win98 or maybe even Win98 SE as long as you're using Win95 drivers (Win98 and SE were expensive bug fixes for Win95) ... but I wouldn't try it (--from personal experience) on WinMe, Win2K or WinXP (these are listed for others who read this) because the available drivers either can't be installed successfully (windows doesn't recognize or use them) or they crash the card. Have you considered changing to a more mainstream card? Erik robin wrote: George Baker wrote: Hi - I've just upgraded from a 486 to a P166 with a S3 Virge DX/GX PCI graphics card with 2MB memory. Installed MDK 7.0 today but can't get X desktop to display properly. There is a jagged box under the curser and lines running through the display. If I move a window it leaves shadows behind. I was running Win95 on the 486 with built in graphics and in 800X600 res it would fill up my whole screen. Now on my P166 with WIN98 there are gaps on either side of the display (also in 800X600 ) - same monitor. Do I need an updated driver for the S3 Virge? or how can I fix both the MDK and WIN problems. That card is an absolute bugger (if you restart X, you'll see amongst the messages flashing down the screen something like Found an S3 card -ugh). I installed 7.0 on a similar system and got it working eventually - you just need to play around with the X settings at random until something works - I'm sorry, I can't remember the configuration I found. My advice is to upgrade to at least 7.2, which should handle this well (I found 7.2 to be good at handling old hardware). 8.0 should also work OK, 8.1 is problematic in general (though can be made to work if you don't mind some hacking if you want supermount). I haven't tried 8.2 with that card, and 9.0 - let's see. For Windows, I'd say yes, download the latest driver. 486s and Pentiums work pretty differently AFAIK. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] galeon and opera
I would like to get opinion about the relative qualities of galeon 1.0.3 and opera 6 regarding speed etc. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] opera 6 and java
I have java installed. I included path for plugins in opera. still no jre report i get. I didn't find any option in preferences for showing java path. How to make it recognize java -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT help writing my deny IE page
Gatto is not strictly unschooling, buy big on ANYTHING other than what we have now. He is big on charter schools, MAJOR reform, and homeschooling. His latest book is the best (over 400 pages), heavily footnoted and rich in information on not only education, but living a rich (not money wise) life. The list of well known people complimenting it goes on for several pages. Check out his web site until you have time to get the books :) Keith n Wednesday 18 September 2002 10:40 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:43:31 -0500 Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With these quotes on education, you may ENJOY reading John Taylor Gatto, former 31 year New York City teacher, teacher of the year for the state his last two years, last 3 years for the city, then he resigned via a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece, saying he could no longer harm children, the educational system needs major reform to truly educate. His books are facinating. www.johntaylorgatto.com I've not read his books, but I'm familiar with the un-schooling/de-schooling concept, which I'm very seriously considering for my daughter. I'm particularly fond of Roger Schank and Peter McLaren. I suppose Ivan Illich is the one who turned me on to the deschooling aspect. It turns out I have JTG's Dumbing us Down on my amazon.com wishlist. Regards, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't get rid of menu bar
On 8.2 Kmail suddenly wants me to type my pass word each time i connect. weird. Keith On Thursday 19 September 2002 07:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On On Wednesday 18 Sep 2002 7:06 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 18 September 2002 10:50 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Funny, when I tried it it went off and stayed off. Teaching your granny and all that, but have you tried turning it off, then logging out and back in, to make it forget? Might be a stupid idea, but harmless, I think the menu bar is a save settings on exit issue? odd. Crazy, I know, but I've had such wierd problems with KDE - like the 'beep on arrival' coming back yesterday, without obvious reason, and not working again this morning, when all I did was sleep for a few hours! So I rule out nothing. :-) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT help writing my deny IE page
Gatto is not strictly unschooling, buy big on ANYTHING other than what we have now. He is big on charter schools, MAJOR reform, and homeschooling. His latest book is the best (over 400 pages), heavily footnoted and rich in information on not only education, but living a rich (not money wise) life. The list of well known people complimenting it goes on for several pages. Check out his web site until you have time to get the books :) Keith n Wednesday 18 September 2002 10:40 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:43:31 -0500 Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With these quotes on education, you may ENJOY reading John Taylor Gatto, former 31 year New York City teacher, teacher of the year for the state his last two years, last 3 years for the city, then he resigned via a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece, saying he could no longer harm children, the educational system needs major reform to truly educate. His books are facinating. www.johntaylorgatto.com I've not read his books, but I'm familiar with the un-schooling/de-schooling concept, which I'm very seriously considering for my daughter. I'm particularly fond of Roger Schank and Peter McLaren. I suppose Ivan Illich is the one who turned me on to the deschooling aspect. It turns out I have JTG's Dumbing us Down on my amazon.com wishlist. Regards, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]Nondeliverable messages?
me too... On Thursday 19 September 2002 03:00 pm, Damian G wrote: Am I the only one this is happening to? no. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT help writing my deny IE page
Gatto is not strictly unschooling, buy big on ANYTHING other than what we have now. He is big on charter schools, MAJOR reform, and homeschooling. His latest book is the best (over 400 pages), heavily footnoted and rich in information on not only education, but living a rich (not money wise) life. The list of well known people complimenting it goes on for several pages. Check out his web site until you have time to get the books :) Keith n Wednesday 18 September 2002 10:40 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:43:31 -0500 Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With these quotes on education, you may ENJOY reading John Taylor Gatto, former 31 year New York City teacher, teacher of the year for the state his last two years, last 3 years for the city, then he resigned via a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece, saying he could no longer harm children, the educational system needs major reform to truly educate. His books are facinating. www.johntaylorgatto.com I've not read his books, but I'm familiar with the un-schooling/de-schooling concept, which I'm very seriously considering for my daughter. I'm particularly fond of Roger Schank and Peter McLaren. I suppose Ivan Illich is the one who turned me on to the deschooling aspect. It turns out I have JTG's Dumbing us Down on my amazon.com wishlist. Regards, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT help writing my deny IE page
Gatto is not strictly unschooling, buy big on ANYTHING other than what we have now. He is big on charter schools, MAJOR reform, and homeschooling. His latest book is the best (over 400 pages), heavily footnoted and rich in information on not only education, but living a rich (not money wise) life. The list of well known people complimenting it goes on for several pages. Check out his web site until you have time to get the books :) Keith n Wednesday 18 September 2002 10:40 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:43:31 -0500 Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With these quotes on education, you may ENJOY reading John Taylor Gatto, former 31 year New York City teacher, teacher of the year for the state his last two years, last 3 years for the city, then he resigned via a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece, saying he could no longer harm children, the educational system needs major reform to truly educate. His books are facinating. www.johntaylorgatto.com I've not read his books, but I'm familiar with the un-schooling/de-schooling concept, which I'm very seriously considering for my daughter. I'm particularly fond of Roger Schank and Peter McLaren. I suppose Ivan Illich is the one who turned me on to the deschooling aspect. It turns out I have JTG's Dumbing us Down on my amazon.com wishlist. Regards, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT: Fwd: Nondeliverable mail
Hmm, I'm getting the same even though the message showed up in the list. This came much later. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Nondeliverable mail Date: 23 Sep 2002 04:21:48 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Transcript of session follows --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The system cannot find the path specified. --- -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 9:46pm up 1 day, 1:43, 1 user, load average: 0.31, 0.07, 0.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Quake3A and SBLive! 5.1
Hardware: CPU = AMD Athlon 1GHz MB = Soltek SL-75KAV RAM = 1024 MB VIDEO = GeForce2 64MB GTS Pro SOUND = SB Live! 5.1 A few months back I was dual booting with RedHat 7.3 and could play Quake III Arena no problem there but trying to play it in Mandrake Cooker (up to 9.0) always resulted in this error message (following other initializations) when starting the game from a terminal: --- sound initialization --- Received signal 11, exiting... I've since removed RH and gone back to MDK 8.1 (couldn't keep up with downloads of Cooker with slow internet connection) and I still get the same error message. The README file states Please note that at the time of this writing, PCI based sound cards such as the SoundBlaster Live and Diamond Monster MX series were not supported. But I can't understand why it worked in RH on the same hardware but not in MDK. It makes no difference whether I try to start the game as root or user. Is there anyone here with an SB Live! soundcard that can play Q3A in MDK? If so, perhaps you may know what I'm doing wrong? TIA Sharrea PS. Nvidia drivers are installed and 3D works fine (eg. Tuxracer). I only have the demo version of Quake III Arena. -- The box said Requires Windows 95 or better so I installed Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie rebuilding src rpm=no fun yet
On Sunday 22 September 2002 6:21 pm, Angus Auld wrote: snip Charlie, thanks so much for the explanation of the whole procedure! I think I can do it now even! It's a bit intimidating, to be sure. I am pretty much committed to Linux at this point, and Mdk is where its at I believe. I am already running with devfsd-1,3.25-1.1mdk, which I upgraded a while back, will that simplify things some? I agree with that analysis. Mandrake seems to try harder than the other distributions I've tried. Having done that update will make it easier. :-) You can skip the two edits of lilo.conf since you don't have to upgrade devfs. Just follow the rest of the steps. I am dual booting w/Windows still (just makes me feel safer), but I hope to outgrow that soon! When I make the move to Mdk9, I may just go all Mdk. I really have been reverting back to MS very little the past while, and I feel quite good about that too. ;-) You're gonna like Mandrake 9. IT'S SWEET!!! :-) Does my dual-boot present any special concerns for the kernel upgrade? Makes 'no never minds no how' Angus. I know what you're saying with the lack of boots into Windows. I reclaimed my disk space when I realized I hadn't booted Windows for almost three months. I have created a /tmp/kernel folder where I will download the necessary packages. I am thankful that I don't have to download all of the ones that were listed! I will start the process tonight. No doubt I will be looking for your learned advice again. All the best, and thank you again. If you start talking to me that way I'll run and hide Angus. I'm still a gnubie myself; I just suffer from insatiable curiosity, and I learn fairly quickly. You can do this, I have no doubt. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber Reg. Linux User #278931 You're very welcome, I hope it was useful information. Let the list know how it works out for you? Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org We're here to give you a computer, not a religion. - attributed to Bob Pariseau, at the introduction of the Amiga Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] opera 6 and java
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 06:52:14 +0530 L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have java installed. I included path for plugins in opera. still no jre report i get. I didn't find any option in preferences for showing java path. How to make it recognize java first, go to the plug-in page in the configuration, and then: can you that window inside of which you can specify paths for Opera to find plug-ins? you can open it up pushing the 'modify path' button. well, inside of that, click on 'add' and the path to your jre's _netscape 4_ plugin. ( not java main executable, you have to find a ns4 directory somewhere. that's what you are looking for ) for example, i use jre1.4.1 and my path for Opera's plugin is this: /usr/java/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/ns4/ after that, close all instances of Opera and restart. HTH Damian -- boot into windows? what has smashing glass with footwear got to do with Operating systems? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDRW DVD Recommendation
I am thinking of buying and installing a CDRW and DVD player, anyone want to recommend a brand, something which is easily recognised by Mandrake 8.2 and people have installed themselves Thanx Andrew D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gimp HP 4300c scanner
et wrote: On Sunday 22 September 2002 12:42 pm, you wrote: Dear All, I really do not know if there is a connection but since I got my scanner working I cannot get Gimp to open anymore. It starts to and stops at /usr/lib/gimp-1.2plugins/miff or something close to this. The scanner works with the lib gimp plugin now , with xsane and with kooka. I am pleased about this since I had to apply the niash patch to the sane-backend as well as do some configuration to get my unsupported HP4300c scanjet (USB) working. Does anyone know how I can get the gimp to work again? Thanks for the help. Marcia I bet everyone would love to hear how you got the scanner to work, and maybe someone in the future will read the archives and be able to get their scanner working too... so... how did you do it? First of all my Gimp opens just fine now. It seemed to resolve itself. Thank you all for your help. To get my HP 4300c to work: I got the testtool which contains the patch script for the sane-backend from http://sourceforge.net/projects/hp3300backend/. On this page you can find the forum which provided most of the help for me. Here is my account of how I got my HP 4300c usb scanner to work. To patch SANE do the following: 1) Download and unpack the testtool and sane-backends source packages 2) Copy to usr/local/src 2) install libusb: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/libusb/libusb-0.1.5.tar.gz usb.h comes from libusb0.1.5, make sure you uninstalled libusb0.1.4 with no deps. Then do any make uninstall of libusb0.15, and the ./configure , make, su to root and make install. YOU WILL need to run ./configure | make | make install again on sane-backends-1.0.8 AFTER reinstalling libusb-0.1.5 ! 3) Unpacking the testtool package is done by: tar -xzvf testtool-20020816_1.tar.gz which creates a directory 'testtool' with some files in it, including the readme. Run make in the testtool directory. 4) Go to the testtool directory and patch sane-backends: ./patch-sane.sh ~/sane-backend-1.0.8 the patch script should be run with the path to the sane-backends sources as an argument. In my case it was: ./patch-sane.sh /usr/local/src/sane-backends-1.0.8 (substitute the proper sane-backend directory) 5) Go to the sane-backend directory and build sane-backends: ./configure make make install It is suggested to first try the testtool before trying to make SANE work. In addition to the directions above, I copied some of the niash specific binaries to a directory belonging to an already installed sane rpm. Then I added niash to the dll.conf file and ran ldconfig. This way I did not have to uninstall the sane that was already setup. Here are the steps for this below: 1) copied backend/.libs/libsane-niash.so.1.0.8 to /usr/lib/sane 2) made some symlinks in /usr/lib/sane named libsane-niash.so.1 and libsane-niash.so pointing to the file just copied. 3) added niash to /etc/sane.d/dll.conf 4) ran ldconfig 5) changed /dev/usbscanner in niash.conf to /dev/usb/scanner0- if your device is a different name then you would use that name instead of /dev/usb/scanner0. I hope this is complete. There is alot of help from sourceforge and other instructions if you want to install another method. The author of testtool promptly answered my questions in the forum. This testtool also works for HP 3300c, HP 3400c, and the Agfa Touch. The one problem I am still having is my image is stretched which the author told me is supposed to be fixed so I am waiting for an answer about this right now. If anyone gets their HP scanner running and does not have a stretched image please let me know. Otherwise I am very pleased to have it working so well. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Constant computer crashes
Carl J. Bauman wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: /etc/lilo.conf, note the append= line, just add the mem=nopentium to it as follows, image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk label=82-2.4.18-6 root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.18-6mdk.img append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi nobiospnp mem=nopentium vga=791 read-only don't worry about the extras Ihave, John I noticed that http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/hbits6.html#athlon contained the following caveat: Notice that if you are using SCSI emulation, e.g. for an IDE CD burner, the 'ide-scsi' option must come after the 'mem=nopentium' option (that is you have to insert that option before 'ide-scsi'). Otherwise the emulation might stop working correctly. I don't know if this is still true or not. Just thought I'd mention it. Regards, Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Thank you Carl and all who helped me with this change to lilo. It may be too early to tell but it looks like this fix in lilo may have turned my horribly unstable system into a very stable system now. Everything so far that I tried to use is working and does not crash. My panel does not disappear on me anymore either. I hope others with similar systems learn of this fix. Thanks so much for your input. I had been struggling with this since July. Thanks very much again. Gratefully, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File conversion
John,
I just whipped up the following simplistic Perl script. Put it in the
directory in which the JPG files live, give it a name like renameJPG.pl
and then
chmod 755 renameJPG.pl
Then to run it, type
./renameJPG.pl
and it will rename all files ending with JPG. By the way, this will
NOT work on FAT32 filesystem directories. Let me know if you need
it to and I can modify it.
Miark
--The following line must be the FIRST line of the script.
#!/usr/bin/perl
opendir(PINS_DIR, .);
@dir = readdir(PINS_DIR);
closedir(PINS_DIR);
foreach (@dir) {
next if !m/JPG$/;
$before = $_;
s/JPG$/jpg/;
$after = $_;
print Renaming $before to $after...\n;
system(mv $before $after);
}
print \nAll files in this directory have been renamed.\n\n;
--The previous line is the LAST line of the script
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:
For reasons I need not go into, I transfer *.JPG files across from
Windblows to Mandrake and work on them in gimp,and
when I'm finished I have a montage of prints I wish to assemble
as a composite.
I've hit a snag.
Winblows names it's files in higher case.
Montage(the programme, part of image magic) seems only willing
to work with lowercase named files. There are too many to manually
retype.
How can I convert windblows named *.JPG files to *.jpg named
files on the command line ?
John
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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