Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly. It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3. No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you. This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows isn't it?:( Yeah, among other things as well :-( Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Friday 18 March 2005 20:42, Michel Leunen wrote: It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3. Don't simply upgrade from 10.0 to 10.2...that'll be an even finer mess. Better to do a fresh install. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: apparently your problem isn't solved yet... No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid. so let's take a few tests: Ok, let's go! After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent On top of that start a new session by doing CTRL, ALT, F2 simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: startx -- :1 without the quotes and watch the space between -- and :1. That should open up a second X(kde)session on CTRL,ALT,F8check CTRL,ALT,F7 to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original CTRL,ALT,F2 to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1 Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686 Build Date: 05 November 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Using vt 8 (II) Initializing extension GL SetClientVersion: 0 8 That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much, quite cryptic for me. Thanks for your help. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Thursday 17 March 2005 21:28, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: apparently your problem isn't solved yet... No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid. Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly. I gathered that KDE3.4 was out today and could be installed in the /home directory (or maybe /opt) so as not to interfere with previous versions. Maybe worth a look, eh? so let's take a few tests: Ok, let's go! After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Frankly, I'm not in the clear what this means other than the obvious undefined event:( There's a version incompatibility somewhere there, prolly. On top of that start a new session by doing CTRL, ALT, F2 simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: startx -- :1 without the quotes and watch the space between -- and :1. That should open up a second X(kde)session on CTRL,ALT,F8check CTRL,ALT,F7 to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original CTRL,ALT,F2 to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1 Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686 Build Date: 05 November 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.1.log, Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Using vt 8 (II) Initializing extension GL SetClientVersion: 0 8 Looks OK to me i.e. normal start-up procedure.and I gather KDE is still botching up on F8. That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much, quite cryptic for me. Thanks for your help. No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you. This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows isn't it?:( -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 22:52, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I haven't considered it until this last week or two, because it wasn't worth risking problems just for eye-candy. It's only the real problems I'm having with kmail imap that have made me consider it. The developers have always said that imap support was experimental in 1.7.1/3.2.3, so I'm not complaining, but since there are fixes for many of the problems in the next version it's time to consider moving on. There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. As a pop client everything except gpg-agent was running sweetly. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem. sigh I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install, only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing that the existing install can't give me. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpxnx3FzxnCF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 11:44, Anne Wilson wrote: I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem. sigh I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install, only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing that the existing install can't give me. My personal trick on win4lin: Install their kernel (when it's available), on the new install and copy (I keep them backed up on the HD as well on CD) /var/win4lin and /opt/win4lin to resp. /var and /opt. If you kept your /home/ann/win directory in order it'll run as beforeno serial number hassle et all. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I think i'll follow your advice in the future. Thanks, Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. Yes, this is exactly the same bahavior as the one I have with may computer. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. This doesn't work for me, though. I mean kde doesn't start but no problem with gnome or xfce. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. I have tried it too but to no avail. Thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 20:48, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I think i'll follow your advice in the future. Thanks, Michel apparently your problem isn't solved yet...so let's take a few tests: After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) the error messages and mail 'em to us. On top of that start a new session by doing CTRL, ALT, F2 simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt. Then at the same prompt: startx -- :1 without the quotes and watch the space between -- and :1. That should open up a second X(kde)session on CTRL,ALT,F8check CTRL,ALT,F7 to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you care;) And go back to the original CTRL,ALT,F2 to see the error messages it produces in respect to kde. If you want to see how it should work ergo a working Xsession kill the running/frozen session with CTRL,ALT,backspace and enter startxfce4 -- :1 at the prompt. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. You're right, everything else seems to work just fine. I can log in Gnome desktop, XFCE4 without any problem. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by I can launch some of the KDE config program like userdrake but konqueror, for instance, returns with an error message and never shows up. The error message is: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? I have tried deleteing the ~/.kde to no avail. It doesn't seems to be a settings problem but rather a library problem. Some library corrupted or missing. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:20, Michel Leunen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel Michel, Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! Did you try adding a new user (userdrake on the commandline) or deleting the kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested? Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:26, Michel Leunen wrote: $ konqueror konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent Have no idea what it means. Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? Did you try adding a new user (userdrake on the commandline) or deleting the kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested? Yes, but to no avail. Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:) Thanks. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:12 pm, Michel Leunen wrote:
mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it?
i do not know ~ but, taking a wild guess
. . . maybe, Mandrake's tool for setting up X-windows { XFree86 or
X-Org } [ my Linux presently is SuSE ] ?
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:12, Michel Leunen wrote: I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. Sorry - I made a mistake on the capitalisation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake So there it is. It looks as though you have established that it is a kde problem, not a display one, as I thought from your first message, so it probably won't help here, but for future reference, it is one of Mandrake's 'wizards' and it deals with display settings. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXf7jWl28Uq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:19, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpuXTudMsZ98.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 20:49, Michel Leunen wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anne]$ slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Thanks Anne, that's definitely not the same as what i got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ slocate xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake /usr/share/mdk/xfdrake/xfdrake-test-card.png No executable in my system. Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake If you still don't find it, you may not have all the wizards installed. There's an rpm caller drakwiz (or is it wiz-drak?) that installs quite a few of them. Run Software Installer and search for 'drak' - you should recognise the one I mean. And btw, to run XFdrake you need to be in a root console. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpw9vqvTswbN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know if you are aware of this, but when you update a package, if it is running it does not appear to be affected. It is not until you re-start it that the new package kicks in. Yeah, I learned that the hard way :-) In the case of kde it would be logging in afresh that would do that. Does that explain it? It makes sense, especially since I mainly use xfce and I don't remember if I logged in kde since the last update. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Anne Wilson wrote: Michael, capitalisation is very important. Try it again with slocate XFdrake Oops, sorry. Hey H.J.Bathoorn, maybe I'm really dumb after all :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# slocate XFdrake /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk_128.png /usr/share/mcc/themes/default/XFdrake-mdk.png /usr/sbin/XFdrake Sorry, Anne and thanks for your help. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:12, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo when you say that about /usr/share/bla/bla, are you trying to find clickable executables like in windows? I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-) You don't give the impression, nor does your site...on the contrary. It's just that some very proficiant windows-users sometimes get terribly lost in their first steps. especially when it comes to the CoMmandLine (CML) which we take almost for granted after a while:) Executables are found in bin/ and sbin/ directories in linux but very few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command! I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/ and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it? It's XFdrake (mind the capitals) .enter XFd on the commandline (as su/root) and hit TAB for autocompletion. The TAB is your best friend (better 'n google) on the CML. XFdrake is a wizard for configuring X and the desktop BTW.You don't need it here. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:19, Michel Leunen wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance? Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my last upgrade. In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the solution? Retry an update? Michel I don't know.I like xfce4 but it sucks when apps like konq don't start when asked..agreed. I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgplh44W0zD5N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Have you tried to launch kde from the command line ? If not, try : startx kde -- :1 as root, in a text shell and you will know if the problem is in your configuration or kde itself. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:20:29 +0100, Michel Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake). Nothing that I can launch. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Hello all. Just a few thoughts. I bought my Mandrake copy directly from France. No downloads, no screwed CDs, everything should have been perfect. However, while the installation was OK (not a single error), when I started the system up, when loading the Mandrake GUI selector (I actually don't know its name, hope I made myself clear: that is, where you should enter the username and password) the system didn't react. It wasn't frozen because when I entered Ctl+Alt+Backspace, the X system stopped alright. In the first place, I though it had something to do with my hardware. However, when I started up the system WITHOUT authomatic X window startup (that is, only the terminal), and when I write (after the login) # startx the X Window (with KDE) started without problems. Hence, I suspected that the problem was indeed the GUI Selector. Then, in the configuration panel, I changed the default manager from Mandrake's own to KDE's or GNOME and now everything works fine. Maybe you can try something like these, although I don't know how to do it from command line. Greetings, Fernando Gómez. == Registered Linux User 381647. Usuario Registrado de Linux 381647 http://counter.li.org - Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that laptop..and I'm not complaining;) Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;) I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;) I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and kmail 1.7.1. They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3. I've read so many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it. This is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'. Anne Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case). There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more. And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect. This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers. It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Need a GMail invitation? Send me an email. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 14:01, Michel Leunen wrote: Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Did you download KDE and install or did you install from distribution? Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 20:01, Michel Leunen wrote: Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with another window manager. How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall once again. Michel The first thing I'd do is create another user and log into KDE as that new user. If the problems don't show up it's a faulty setting in your /home/michel/.kde/ directory.just delete it and check in as you used to. You will lose existing kde settings like those of kmail as well as bookmarks in konqueror etc etc. So if that is a major problem, say so and we'll fine tune what has to be changed/deleted. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
SOTL wrote: Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter. -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:18:24 +0100, Michel Leunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SOTL wrote: Please supply info on usual components. Equipment make video card et. Linux Distribution and version et. Mandrake 10.0 updated regularly. I don't think the card installed matter. You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? I lost KDE once and I think that's what I did to get it back although I admit, I'm not sure. Eric -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Michel -- Michel Leunen http://www.leunen.com/ mailto: see my homepage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:11, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote: eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Anne X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out in a previous session. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 21:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde that's for sure. I hadn't realised about XFCE when I sent it, but you're right, of course. Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out in a previous session. It does seem rather difficult to do anything about kde if you can't even get in. He should be able to try renaming .kde, but that would only work if the problem was after logging in, and as I understand it he can't even get so far. But - if he can't, how did he get XFCE working, I wonder? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpxzHKsdm60Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote: | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with | another window manager. | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall | once again. | | Michel Can you log into kde as a different user? Maybe create one and see. If so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde. Logout and then back into KDE. That will probably fix it. Beware, you may want to backup your Mail directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. Your desktop settings will also return to the default. The bright side is, it is a relatively quick fix. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 05:41, Erylon Hines wrote: On Monday 14 March 2005 11:01 am, Michel Leunen wrote: | Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE. | Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log | in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop | and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with | another window manager. | How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall | once again. | | Michel Can you log into kde as a different user? Maybe create one and see. If so, rename your /home/~/.kde to .OLDkde. Logout and then back into KDE. That will probably fix it. Beware, you may want to backup your Mail directory and your kaddressbook, because you may lose them in the process. Your desktop settings will also return to the default. The bright side is, it is a relatively quick fix. Renaming is always a good option. You can copy your addressbook over to the new directory. If you use kmail it isn't stored under .kde but under .Mail, so you don't lose that either. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpI2L87rbmm4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote: eric jackson wrote: You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the command line, did you try startx? No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually, the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar message in /var/log/... either. Here's one possibility that I'd try. Try XFDrake, if you can get to a command line. Try booting linux-nonfb if you can't, then try XFDrake. If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp9kNF5Tv3Wm.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] [tanya] desktop??
Ada yang bisa bantu gak??? Aku mo tanya dong??? 1. cara bikin shortcut di desktop gimana sih? (mungkin Mbak/Ibu/Pak/Mas Vivin bisa tolong lebih mendalam dengan command "ln -s" nya yang waktu itu. Tapi pertolongan dari yang laen juga sangat diharapkan lho!!). And seperti biasa.tulung langkah demi langkah yah :-) 2. ada yang bisa tulung njelasin command "urpmi" gak??
Re: [newbie] [tanya] desktop??
Hi Teguh, Here is the international milis of mandrake newbie, please use english if you ask someting. ok i am understand, i am from indonesia too. 1. wich desktop do u use ( KDE or GNome )? allright, i have assumtion that you are using KDE. you just right click the mouse on the desktop and select create new file link to application. just enough. and than u only enter the name of application and how call that application. or the second way, you just drag and drop the file of the application to the desktop. its simple :) And about the ln -s command, for example you want make a link of direktory /mnt into you home directory with the name devices, so you shouldn't reach the /mnt from the top of root but only click the directory from your home directory. $ln -s /mnt $HOME/devices violaa now you have directory have name devices in your home direktory. so you can access /mnt via this directory. if you have difficult how to use the command in linux, please type --help after the command. for example ln --help.. so you can see and read the help to use this command. REgards Teddy Widhi L. Penguin Power On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:46:32 +0700, teguh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada yang bisa bantu gak??? Aku mo tanya dong??? 1. cara bikin shortcut di desktop gimana sih? (mungkin Mbak/Ibu/Pak/Mas Vivin bisa tolong lebih mendalam dengan command ln -s nya yang waktu itu. Tapi pertolongan dari yang laen juga sangat diharapkan lho!!). And seperti biasa.tulung langkah demi langkah yah :-) 2. ada yang bisa tulung njelasin command urpmi gak?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing desktop
Typing 'kde' or 'kdm' should work. As far as I remember. You probably didnt click the box to have the graphical server start at boot when you installed. HTH On Friday 24 December 2004 09:19 pm, George N. Conover wrote: I just installed Mandrake 10.1 and I can't get KDE to come up. How do I change the Desktops from the command line? I want to try GNOME. George Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Changing desktop
I just installed Mandrake 10.1 and I can't get KDE to come up. How do I change the Desktops from the command line? I want to try GNOME. George Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing desktop
George N. Conover wrote: I just installed Mandrake 10.1 and I can't get KDE to come up. How do I change the Desktops from the command line? I want to try GNOME. George $ startx- usually invokes KDE or $ startx KDE $ startx GNOME - usually invokes GNOME. HTH, -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Changing desktop
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:41:09 -0500 Kenneth disseminated the following: I just installed Mandrake 10.1 and I can't get KDE to come up. How do I change the Desktops from the command line? I want to try GNOME. George $ startx- usually invokes KDE or $ startx KDE $ startx GNOME - usually invokes GNOME. Create an executable file '.xinitrc' in your home dir, edit it like so: exec gnome-session Save it, then 'startx', or in your .bashrc: alias x=startx -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 22:41:21 up 33 days, 13:53, 7 users, load average: 0.18, 0.07, 0.02 +++ Where the state begins, individual liberty ceases, and vice versa. -- Bakunin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla desktop icon dosent work
Hoyt Bailey wrote: I installed mozilla 1.6 from mozilla.org a tar.gz file. When engaged from the run-mozilla.sh script it works fine. Therefore I used the path to script as the command for the icon. It generates a flopping hourglass in the kicker but dos not start mozilla. What did I do wrong? At last a question that I actually know the answer to - I think mozilla 1.6 is installed in a different part of the folder forest to 1.4. Change the execute properties of the link to : /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla and all should be well thereafter. Cheers, Graham Watkins Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Remote Desktop
Hi All, I would like to know if there is a way for my M9.2 box to be able to bring over a Solaris desktop. Much like xwin32. What I would like to be able to do is run a program and have the Solaris login screen where I would be able to use the box as if I were in front of it. Is there such an animal out there? Thanks Phil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop
On Sunday 25 January 2004 07:35 pm, Phil Savoie wrote: Hi All, I would like to know if there is a way for my M9.2 box to be able to bring over a Solaris desktop. Much like xwin32. What I would like to be able to do is run a program and have the Solaris login screen where I would be able to use the box as if I were in front of it. Is there such an animal out there? Do you know about vnc? Mandrake includes it and you would have to set up the server on the solaris box, but then you would be able to connect and utilize your desktop as if you were sitting in front of it. I'm assuming that vncserver can be installed on Solaris. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop
On January 25, 2004 19:47, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 07:35 pm, Phil Savoie wrote: Hi All, I would like to know if there is a way for my M9.2 box to be able to bring over a Solaris desktop. Much like xwin32. What I would like to be able to do is run a program and have the Solaris login screen where I would be able to use the box as if I were in front of it. Is there such an animal out there? Do you know about vnc? Mandrake includes it and you would have to set up the server on the solaris box, but then you would be able to connect and utilize your desktop as if you were sitting in front of it. I'm assuming that vncserver can be installed on Solaris. Roger that and thany for responding! I have done that. However, all I get is a terminal not the whole CDE enchilada. I know in Solaris at the login screen I can choose an option to display remote machines. Is there such an option with Mandrake? Phil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop
On Sunday 25 January 2004 07:54 pm, Phil Savoie wrote: On January 25, 2004 19:47, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 07:35 pm, Phil Savoie wrote: Hi All, I would like to know if there is a way for my M9.2 box to be able to bring over a Solaris desktop. Much like xwin32. What I would like to be able to do is run a program and have the Solaris login screen where I would be able to use the box as if I were in front of it. Is there such an animal out there? Do you know about vnc? Mandrake includes it and you would have to set up the server on the solaris box, but then you would be able to connect and utilize your desktop as if you were sitting in front of it. I'm assuming that vncserver can be installed on Solaris. Roger that and thany for responding! I have done that. However, all I get is a terminal not the whole CDE enchilada. I know in Solaris at the login screen I can choose an option to display remote machines. Is there such an option with Mandrake? VNC is most definitely graphical. If you start the server on your solaris box as the user you want to connect as, you can connect from a client machine and should have the whole CDE desktop. If this is not what you are getting or your understanding of vnc, you should read the docs. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gnome desktop, menus
John wrote: Hi I have been through all the updates for 9.2 including the menu update. Gnome desktop is nowhere to be found. It was listed during the menu update process(update-menus -v) and is listed in the software database for removal but does not show up as desktop environment. The kde menus are still missing applications including gnome. Kmix is also missing. System volume is full throttle. I changed the menu environment to all applications-Mandrake menu from simiplfied version. Desktop icons are not working after changing menu environment. The menu environment is still to the simplified version. I have probably overlooked some steps here and would appreciate any help. John, Fig provided me with these links when I had this problem a couple days ago. They seem to have worked for me. BTW, I never used update-menus -v, but I did su and bring up Mandrake Control Center and then MenuDrake. All I had to do was hit the Save button, having changed nothing, and that made the menus reappear. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:030 http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:030-1 Use the second one. Thanks John -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Desktop Icons
On Thursday 25 December 2003 22:36, E. Hines wrote: On Thursday 25 December 2003 01:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks Anne and 'e' but it woulld appear that do not have a /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory. Will await the new year and see my Guru. I wonder if Erylon was thinking of ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail - your mail account details ? Or maybe /~/.kde/share/apps/kabc ? I see that in my old install directory I have kab but in the new install it is kabc. I don't know why, unless it has to do with whether upgrades were made before I used it. Anne I'm still on 9.1 here. The old Kaddressbook (assuming you use kmail, of course) was the /home/your_username/.kde/share/apps/kab -- If it has been changed in the newest version of kde I wouldn't know. One way to check is to open it up and see if it is an addressbook file. Kwrite can read the contents. I'm on 9.1, too, Erylon. I had to re-install after the big XFree86 debacle - I think my attempts to fix it made things worse g. I installed to different partitions so that I could see/copy anything that I needed. If I slocate kab I get, amongst other lines, /home/anne/.kde/share/config/kab2kabcrc /home/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc /home/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc/lock /home/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf /usr/share/apps/kabc /usr/share/apps/kabc/formats /usr/share/apps/kabc/formats/binary.desktop /usr/share/apps/kabc/formats/kdeaccountsplugin.desktop /usr/share/apps/kabc/plugins /usr/share/apps/kabc/plugins/ldap.desktop /usr/share/apps/kabc/plugins/dir.desktop /OldRoot/root/.kde/share/config/kab2kabcrc /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/config/kab2kabcrc /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc/lock /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kab /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kab/addressbook.kab /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kab/addressbook.kab.backup /OldRoot/OldData/anne/.kde/share/apps/kab/kab.config The kab lines no longer appear. I simply don't understand why things should be different when you re-install. I do remember, though, that with 8.2 I had to reinstall, and some things worked the second time that had never worked, or had been unreliable, the first time. Anyway, the upshot is that /home/anne/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf is what is being used for my addressbook. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Desktop Icons
On Thursday 25 December 2003 03:07, E. Hines wrote: First, try creating another user, and see if the default icon placement is correct after restart. If so, the below will very likely work. Back up your /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory as well as your ~/Mail and then delete the /~/.kde directory If you rename rather than delete it should be possible to copy your notes etc into the new directory Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Desktop Icons
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 25 December 2003 03:07, E. Hines wrote: First, try creating another user, and see if the default icon placement is correct after restart. If so, the below will very likely work. Back up your /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory as well as your ~/Mail and then delete the /~/.kde directory If you rename rather than delete it should be possible to copy your notes etc into the new directory Anne Thanks Anne and 'e' but it woulld appear that do not have a /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory. Will await the new year and see my Guru. John -- printed a copy of 'e' s mail and will talk with you later on this one. David -- *** This email originates from a 100% Mandrake Linux OS computer. If you receive a virus apparently from me, it is because this email has forged someone elses Windows Address Book headers. I'm not interested in hearing about it, thanks. *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Desktop Icons
On Thursday 25 December 2003 20:54, David wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 25 December 2003 03:07, E. Hines wrote: First, try creating another user, and see if the default icon placement is correct after restart. If so, the below will very likely work. Back up your /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory as well as your ~/Mail and then delete the /~/.kde directory If you rename rather than delete it should be possible to copy your notes etc into the new directory Anne Thanks Anne and 'e' but it woulld appear that do not have a /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory. Will await the new year and see my Guru. I wonder if Erylon was thinking of ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail - your mail account details ? Or maybe /~/.kde/share/apps/kabc ? I see that in my old install directory I have kab but in the new install it is kabc. I don't know why, unless it has to do with whether upgrades were made before I used it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Desktop Icons
On Thursday 25 December 2003 01:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks Anne and 'e' but it woulld appear that do not have a /~/.kde/share/apps/kab directory. Will await the new year and see my Guru. I wonder if Erylon was thinking of ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail - your mail account details ? Or maybe /~/.kde/share/apps/kabc ? I see that in my old install directory I have kab but in the new install it is kabc. I don't know why, unless it has to do with whether upgrades were made before I used it. Anne I'm still on 9.1 here. The old Kaddressbook (assuming you use kmail, of course) was the /home/your_username/.kde/share/apps/kab-- If it has been changed in the newest version of kde I wouldn't know. One way to check is to open it up and see if it is an addressbook file. Kwrite can read the contents. I like Anne's solution of renaming .kde to something else. Then you can always restore from the backup. Probably still have to use the import function in the addressbook to restore the addresses, though. I don't know why simply copying the kab has never worked for me. But first, does a new user have the same icon problem on the desktop, or not? Back to the Christmas ham, now. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
julian wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:02 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the Linksys router setup?). How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? Thanks, You will need to open a port on your router. The details on this depend on the router. Typically you tell it what port you want to open, and the lan IP of the computer to which traffic on that port should go. You can set the port here: control center-internetnetwork-destop sharing-network tab It looks like it uses port 5900 by default, so try opening that first. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I'll try this...thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX
Ciao, Scusate, lo so che esistono i manuali e li leggero' ma ci vuole tempo, potete dirmi voi come creo un nuovo utente? come chiudo l'interfaccia grafica una volta effettuata la login grafica? come faccio a dire al S.O. se partire con l'interfaccia grafica o meno? come faccio a passare da un desktop virtuale all'altro? posso avere piu' sessioni grafiche e/o terminale aperte contemporaneamente da utenti diversi? e come mi muovo da una all'altra? Per esempio vorrei loggarmi graficamente sia come root che come utente normale si puo'?come?e per passare da una sessione all'altra come faccio? Grazie Christian
Re: [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX
il Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto riguardo a [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX Ciao, Scusate, lo so che esistono i manuali e li leggero' ma ci vuole tempo, potete dirmi voi come creo un nuovo utente? Grafico: userdrake linea di comando: useradd come chiudo l'interfaccia grafica una volta effettuata la login grafica? Cioè?! come faccio a dire al S.O. se partire con l'interfaccia grafica o meno? Grafico: Mandrake Control Center, System-DrakXService disabiliti dm al boot linea di comando: chkconfig --level 5 dm off Grafico: Mandrake Control Center, Boot- DrakBoot e levi la spunta sull'avvio del server grafico. linea di comando: editi /etc/inittab e metti initdefault a 3 invece di 5 Forse il terzo è la cosa migliore è + pulita come faccio a passare da un desktop virtuale all'altro? Desktop virtuale o console virtuale? Nel primo caso quale WM usi? posso avere piu' sessioni grafiche e/o terminale aperte contemporaneamente Sì alla prima solo se su monitor diversi, si incondizionato alla seconda. da utenti diversi? e come mi muovo da una all'altra? Dipende dove le hai aperte Per esempio vorrei loggarmi graficamente sia come root che come utente Vedi sopra, cmq non è mai una buona idea loggarsi graficamente come root ma ti puoi aprire quante console di root vuoi quando sei loggato graficamente come utente normale normale si puo'?come?e per passare da una sessione all'altra come faccio? Grazie Christian Ciao, Germano
Re: [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX
Grazie a tutti, per i suggerimenti... c'e' un modo per vedere i comandi che vengono inviati alla shell quando si fa un click col mouse? il Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto riguardo a [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX Ciao, Scusate, lo so che esistono i manuali e li leggero' ma ci vuole tempo, potete dirmi voi come creo un nuovo utente? Grafico: userdrake linea di comando: useradd come chiudo l'interfaccia grafica una volta effettuata la login grafica? Cioè?! se sono loggato come utente1 graficamente e decido di loggarmi come utente2 senza uscire da utente1 come faccio? probabilmente esiste un comando per loggarmi come utente2 su una console terminale, qual'e'? come mi hai detto, con un solo schermo non posso avere 2 sessioni grafiche aperte, contemporaneamente, per cui se a questo punto volessi usare l'interfaccia grafica su utente2 teoricamente potrei uccidere il processo X di utente1 e lanciare startX o che altro in utente2 ... no? come faccio a dire al S.O. se partire con l'interfaccia grafica o meno? Grafico: Mandrake Control Center, System-DrakXService disabiliti dm al boot linea di comando: chkconfig --level 5 dm off Grafico: Mandrake Control Center, Boot- DrakBoot e levi la spunta sull'avvio del server grafico. linea di comando: editi /etc/inittab e metti initdefault a 3 invece di 5 Forse il terzo è la cosa migliore è + pulita come faccio a passare da un desktop virtuale all'altro? Desktop virtuale o console virtuale? Nel primo caso quale WM usi? Gnome ma posso usare anche kde se e' piu' flessibile tu cosa mi consigli? posso avere piu' sessioni grafiche e/o terminale aperte contemporaneamente Sì alla prima solo se su monitor diversi, si incondizionato alla seconda. da utenti diversi? e come mi muovo da una all'altra? Dipende dove le hai aperte per come ho capito io: se le ho aperte all'interno di una unica possibile login grafica tramite n finestra terminali, mi ci muovo come normali finestre (alt+tab o col mouse) se invece mi sono loggato senza grafica dovrei vedere a tutto schermo la shell dei comandi dove do' il comando per nuova login (qual'e'?) e poi per muovermi dalla prima alla seconda ctrl + alt + fn? Per esempio vorrei loggarmi graficamente sia come root che come utente Vedi sopra, cmq non è mai una buona idea loggarsi graficamente come root ma ti puoi aprire quante console di root vuoi quando sei loggato graficamente come utente normale normale si puo'?come?e per passare da una sessione all'altra come faccio? Grazie Christian Ciao, Germano Ciao grazie, Christian
Re: [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX
Alle 14:20, martedì 18 novembre 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: come chiudo l'interfaccia grafica una volta effettuata la login grafica? Cioè?! se sono loggato come utente1 graficamente e decido di loggarmi come utente2 senza uscire da utente1 come faccio? probabilmente esiste un comando per loggarmi come utente2 su una console terminale, qual'e'? come mi hai detto, con un solo schermo non posso avere 2 sessioni grafiche aperte, ha detto un solo display, non un solo schermo fisico ;-) contemporaneamente, per cui se a questo punto volessi usare l'interfaccia grafica su utente2 teoricamente potrei uccidere il processo X di utente1 e lanciare startX o che altro in utente2 ... no? Se uccidi il processo X in cui è attivo utente1 ( kill -9 pid-di-X ) provochi anche la fine della sessione di utente1. In questo caso è meglio ew più semplice un control-alt-backspace che uccide la sessione X e ne riavvia subito un'altra. Puoi semplice e pulito fare un logout dell'utente1 e poi loggarsi come utente2 Se vai in un'altra console virtuale puoi lanciare un'altra istanza di X (sovraccarichi un po' il sistema). La prima avrà DISPLAY nomemacchina:0, la seconda nomemacchina:1 Oppure, da un xterm dai prima xhost + e poi su - utente2 Da quel momento, tutti i comandi (anche con uscita grafica) dati da quell'xterm sono di utente2 e vengono mostrati sul display comune. Come vedi ci sono molte possibilità. Dipende da cosa vuoi fare _esattamente_ ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX
il Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto riguardo a Re: [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX Grazie a tutti, per i suggerimenti... c'e' un modo per vedere i comandi che vengono inviati alla shell quando si fa un click col mouse? Cioè vorresti imparare da come dà i comandi il programma grafico? Non penso: 1) I programmatori scrivono i programmi non con intenti didattici, ergo non fanno sì che venga ogni volta printato il comando. 2) Se vuoi che il programma sia veloce i comandi non sono comandi di shell ma direttamente istruzione in linguaggio macchina. il Tuesday 18 November 2003 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto riguardo a [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX Ciao, Scusate, lo so che esistono i manuali e li leggero' ma ci vuole tempo, potete dirmi voi come creo un nuovo utente? Grafico: userdrake linea di comando: useradd come chiudo l'interfaccia grafica una volta effettuata la login grafica? Cioè?! se sono loggato come utente1 graficamente e decido di loggarmi come utente2 senza uscire da utente1 come faccio? probabilmente esiste un comando per loggarmi come utente2 su una console terminale, qual'e'? come mi hai detto, apri un terminale nell'ambiente grafico dove ti trovi (xterm, konsole etc.) e dai il comando su utente2 a quel punto ti verrà chiesta la passwd di utente2 e poi tutto ciò che farai da quel terminale sarà come se lo facesse utente2 con un solo schermo non posso avere 2 sessioni grafiche aperte, contemporaneamente, per cui se a questo punto volessi usare l'interfaccia grafica su utente2 teoricamente potrei uccidere il processo X di utente1 e lanciare startX o che altro in utente2 ... no? Non devi uccidere niente ti devi semplicemente sloggare e poi riloggare come altro utente. come faccio a dire al S.O. se partire con l'interfaccia grafica o meno? Grafico: Mandrake Control Center, System-DrakXService disabiliti dm al boot linea di comando: chkconfig --level 5 dm off Grafico: Mandrake Control Center, Boot- DrakBoot e levi la spunta sull'avvio del server grafico. linea di comando: editi /etc/inittab e metti initdefault a 3 invece di 5 Forse il terzo è la cosa migliore è + pulita come faccio a passare da un desktop virtuale all'altro? Non puoi cambiarli con il mouse? se vuoi farlo da tastiera per quanto riguarda KDE vai sul Kde Control Center e ti guardi le associazioni di tasti e te le modifichi a piacimento (stessa cosa per Gnome). Se usi Gnome immagino che tu mi faccia questa domanda perchè di default non c'è l'applet che gestisce i desktop virtuali: tasto destro sul pannello di Gnome e aggiungi l'applet in questione. Desktop virtuale o console virtuale? Nel primo caso quale WM usi? Gnome ma posso usare anche kde se e' piu' flessibile tu cosa mi consigli? Questione di gusti, KDE mi piace di + per alcuni motivi che per te potrebbero essere insignificanti. posso avere piu' sessioni grafiche e/o terminale aperte contemporaneamente Sì alla prima solo se su monitor diversi, si incondizionato alla seconda. da utenti diversi? e come mi muovo da una all'altra? Dipende dove le hai aperte per come ho capito io: se le ho aperte all'interno di una unica possibile login grafica tramite n finestra terminali, mi ci muovo come normali finestre (alt+tab o col mouse) se invece mi sono loggato senza grafica dovrei vedere a tutto schermo la shell dei comandi dove do' il comando per nuova login (qual'e'?) e poi per muovermi dalla prima alla seconda ctrl + alt + fn? Esatto. Ma se ti serve momentaneamente un' altro utente senza bisogno di aprire un'altra console riusi il comando 'su' come prima. Per esempio vorrei loggarmi graficamente sia come root che come utente Vedi sopra, cmq non è mai una buona idea loggarsi graficamente come root ma ti puoi aprire quante console di root vuoi quando sei loggato graficamente come utente normale normale si puo'?come?e per passare da una sessione all'altra come faccio? Grazie Christian Ciao, Germano Ciao grazie, Christian Ciao, Ge
Re: [newbie-it] Desktop virtuali, multisessioni contemporanee, startX
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[newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the Linksys router setup?). How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? Thanks, -- Trey pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] KDE Desktop sharing through a router
On Saturday 15 November 2003 10:02 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I want to use the KDE Desktop sharing application, but have a Linksys router installed. So the IP address that the desktop sharing gives me is my internal IP. What do I need to do to authorize desktop sharing on the machine. I suppose I first need to find the IP assigned by my IP (in the Linksys router setup?). How then do I authorize a connection through the router to my machine? Thanks, You will need to open a port on your router. The details on this depend on the router. Typically you tell it what port you want to open, and the lan IP of the computer to which traffic on that port should go. You can set the port here: control center-internetnetwork-destop sharing-network tab It looks like it uses port 5900 by default, so try opening that first. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop Sharing
thank you both. vncviewer for windows runs fine with vncserver. just a simple question: I can access from my local network the vncserver, but from the internet I have to put in shorewall ACCEPT on all policy rules. I leave out my security though. Is there a way to open a specific port for vnc? thank you in advance 07 2003 20:21, / manolis : Hi, Is there a way to connect to my linux desktop via windows remote desktop connection? Any Software? web sites ? thank you in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop Sharing
On Friday 08 August 2003 04:53, manolis wrote: thank you both. vncviewer for windows runs fine with vncserver. just a simple question: I can access from my local network the vncserver, but from the internet I have to put in shorewall ACCEPT on all policy rules. I leave out my security though. Is there a way to open a specific port for vnc? thank you in advance 07 2003 20:21, / manolis : Hi, Is there a way to connect to my linux desktop via windows remote desktop connection? Any Software? web sites ? thank you in advance Shorewall needs to have port 5900 opened for VNC. If you have any other routers in your network, you'll also want to open that port as well and point it to the IP of your box running VNC server. For multiple boxes, the display numbers (configured on the server) will determine which server you get to. hth, -- Ben Reeves He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is more intelligent. He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still. - Lao-Tsu, Tao Teh King Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop Sharing
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 03:21, manolis wrote: Hi, Is there a way to connect to my linux desktop via windows remote desktop connection? Any Software? web sites ? thank you in advance You can do the same by using VNCViewer - and firing up vncserver on the linux box (as I am doing to three different linux boxen here at home) -- Fri Aug 8 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 4 days, 13:08, 1 user, load average: 1.30, 1.06, 1.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The answer to the question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is... Four day work week, Two ply toilet paper! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop Sharing
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 18:53, manolis wrote: thank you both. vncviewer for windows runs fine with vncserver. just a simple question: I can access from my local network the vncserver, but from the internet I have to put in shorewall ACCEPT on all policy rules. I leave out my security though. Is there a way to open a specific port for vnc? thank you in advance Yeah - in the documentation it outlines the ports and how to specify different ports. -- Fri Aug 8 22:50:01 EST 2003 22:50:01 up 5 days, 2:38, 1 user, load average: 0.89, 0.94, 0.92 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Bureaucracy is the enemy of innovation. -- Mark Shepherd, former President and CEO of Texas Instruments Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Desktop Sharing
You could use VNC which is free. On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 20:21:47 +0300, manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there a way to connect to my linux desktop via windows remote desktop connection? Any Software? web sites ? thank you in advance -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Remote Desktop Sharing
Hi, Is there a way to connect to my linux desktop via windows remote desktop connection? Any Software? web sites ? thank you in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE desktop cruft
I've got a couple of icons on my desktop that I can't get rid of (and don't appear in the Desktop directory). I suspect that they're artifacts from an automount or something, but I can't remove the /mnt entries, either. The icons appear as CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2 and CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2 and appear as a cd-rom image with a small green triangle in the lower right corner. The entries in /mnt have odd permissions: drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom2/ drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom3/ These entries are not removable. either. I'd really prefer to have the second cd-rom drive use manual mounting as the first and to clean up my desktop by removing these. Suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop cruft
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 10:57 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: I've got a couple of icons on my desktop that I can't get rid of (and don't appear in the Desktop directory). I suspect that they're artifacts from an automount or something, but I can't remove the /mnt entries, either. The icons appear as CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2 and CD-ROM mounted at /mnt/cdrom2 and appear as a cd-rom image with a small green triangle in the lower right corner. The entries in /mnt have odd permissions: drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom2/ drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jul 29 19:13 cdrom3/ These entries are not removable. either. I'd really prefer to have the second cd-rom drive use manual mounting as the first and to clean up my desktop by removing these. Suggestions? KDE Control CentreLookNFeelBehaviour check/uncheck however you want your desktop. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous desktop switching
At 11:47 AM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: Okay, I was wrong. I've removed 3ddesktop, but I _still_ switch desktops by double-pointing to either edge of my screen. Is that some KDE feature I don't know about and maybe turned on my accident? Miark if you mean whizzing the cursor to the edge it goes to the next desktop: Yes. Enlightenment has it too...its under the KDE Options IIRC somewhere... I think i found it by rightclicking the desktop. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous desktop switching
Okay, I was wrong. I've removed 3ddesktop, but I _still_ switch desktops by double-pointing to either edge of my screen. Is that some KDE feature I don't know about and maybe turned on my accident? Miark On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:34:25 -0400 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jun 2003 08:42:40 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 08:16, Miark wrote: I'm using Texstar's KDE 3.1.2. Every once in a while, the desktop will switch to another desktop by itself. I can't see any pattern to it either, so I don't know what's triggering it. Any ideas? Miark Is it switching to a specific desktop, or a random desktop? The reason I'm asking is if there's an application that becomes focused on a particular desktop, it could cause KDE to switch to that particular desktop... I figured it out: 3ddesktop. It was running and I totally forgot about it. But no more--that fluff crap is outta here. A tautology is a thing which is tautological. Eschew obfuscation. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous desktop switching
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 01:47, Miark wrote: Okay, I was wrong. I've removed 3ddesktop, but I _still_ switch desktops by double-pointing to either edge of my screen. Is that some KDE feature I don't know about and maybe turned on my accident? Miark Um, that's screen flipping mate. You can turn it on/off in the KDE Control Center under LOOK'N'FEEL = WINDOW BEHAVIOUR = ADVANCED = ACTIVE DESKTOP BORDERS. Ha! -- Thu Jun 19 14:35:00 EST 2003 14:35:00 up 5 days, 21:49, 3 users, load average: 0.13, 0.17, 0.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * 'We get that in here some nights, when someone's had a few. Cosmic speculation about whether the gods exist. Next thing, there's a bolt of lightning through the door with a note wrapped round it saying, Yes, we do and a pair of sandals with smoke coming out.' (Small Gods) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous desktop switching
On 15 Jun 2003 08:42:40 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 08:16, Miark wrote: I'm using Texstar's KDE 3.1.2. Every once in a while, the desktop will switch to another desktop by itself. I can't see any pattern to it either, so I don't know what's triggering it. Any ideas? Miark Is it switching to a specific desktop, or a random desktop? The reason I'm asking is if there's an application that becomes focused on a particular desktop, it could cause KDE to switch to that particular desktop... I figured it out: 3ddesktop. It was running and I totally forgot about it. But no more--that fluff crap is outta here. A tautology is a thing which is tautological. Eschew obfuscation. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote desktop connection
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 11:21, Terry Sheltra wrote: Anyone use the mandrake remote desktop connection utility? If so, how does one do things like send a CTRL-ALT-DEL command? I know that if I were using VNC, I could just hit Ctrl-F8 to get a popup menu. Are you referring to the rdesktop program? (rfbdrake uses rdesktop to connect to Windows machines.) I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del while using rdesktop to connect to a WinXP machine and the keys were recognized just as if I'd been sitting at the machine. Second question (maybe related to the first one) .. if I have it running full-screen, how can I switch it to a window? I had accidentally closed the menu, and was stuck with a full screen view of the remote desktop, with no way to close it. According to man rdesktop, full screen is toggled using Ctrl-Alt-Enter. Of course, if you ever got stuck like that again, you could Ctrl-Alt-F1 to login to the console, do a killall rdesktop to kill the rdesktop process, then Alt-F7 to return to the GUI. But I digress... - Kathy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote desktop connection
Actually, I was referring to the krdc application (I had no idea it was KDE's until I went and looked .. hehe). I've pretty much figured it out now. Seems that it intercepts the CTRL-ALT-DEL command just fine, and I like it very much. It even allows me to scale the window so I can see the entire desktop without even having to scroll the display around! Thanks to all who tried to help me! Terry K Montgomery wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 11:21, Terry Sheltra wrote: Anyone use the mandrake remote desktop connection utility? If so, how does one do things like send a CTRL-ALT-DEL command? I know that if I were using VNC, I could just hit Ctrl-F8 to get a popup menu. Are you referring to the rdesktop program? (rfbdrake uses rdesktop to connect to Windows machines.) I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del while using rdesktop to connect to a WinXP machine and the keys were recognized just as if I'd been sitting at the machine. Second question (maybe related to the first one) .. if I have it running full-screen, how can I switch it to a window? I had accidentally closed the menu, and was stuck with a full screen view of the remote desktop, with no way to close it. According to man rdesktop, full screen is toggled using Ctrl-Alt-Enter. Of course, if you ever got stuck like that again, you could Ctrl-Alt-F1 to login to the console, do a killall rdesktop to kill the rdesktop process, then Alt-F7 to return to the GUI. But I digress... - Kathy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Available via instant messenger Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% M$-Free PC Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Spontaneous desktop switching
I'm using Texstar's KDE 3.1.2. Every once in a while, the desktop will switch to another desktop by itself. I can't see any pattern to it either, so I don't know what's triggering it. Any ideas? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spontaneous desktop switching
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 08:16, Miark wrote: I'm using Texstar's KDE 3.1.2. Every once in a while, the desktop will switch to another desktop by itself. I can't see any pattern to it either, so I don't know what's triggering it. Any ideas? Miark Is it switching to a specific desktop, or a random desktop? The reason I'm asking is if there's an application that becomes focused on a particular desktop, it could cause KDE to switch to that particular desktop... -- Sun Jun 15 08:40:00 EST 2003 08:40:00 up 1 day, 15:54, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.38, 0.33 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A tautology is a thing which is tautological. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XFCE desktop menu items unreadable
I just installed xfce off the 9.1 cds. The first time i clicked i saw a menu with words. Since then, all i see is underlines and periods. (if only i knew morse code!) Any idea what the problem could be? It's like the fonts are gone, but i have no idea where to start. I did an rpm search for fonts, bu i apper to have all the appropriate fonts. At least some of the menu items work. You can see sub menus opening up, but the labels are all bad. I ran the user and root menu-update commands (just incase) but that didn't help. Thanks for any advice! huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE desktop menu items unreadable
yep, here i am answering my own post again. I finally noticed the scrollbar in the setup--windows tab. After trying some fonts i did find a bunch that work. thanks, huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie-it] desktop...default...
ciao a tutta la lista! :-) una domanda veloce veloce...esiste un punto in cui si stabilisce quale sia il desktop di default per un utente (kde, gnome...windows maker) all'inizio avevo impostato gnome (per un utente), ora vorrei mettere windows maker...esiste un modo?? se esiste, questo mi permette anche di fare startx da console ed aprire il desktop di default?? grazie per i consigli...sempre ben accetti francesco
Re: [newbie-it] desktop...default...
Alle 14:55, martedì 3 dicembre 2002, mailing - effem ha scritto: ciao a tutta la lista! :-) una domanda veloce veloce...esiste un punto in cui si stabilisce quale sia il desktop di default per un utente (kde, gnome...windows maker) all'inizio avevo impostato gnome (per un utente), ora vorrei mettere windows maker...esiste un modo?? se esiste, questo mi permette anche di fare startx da console ed aprire il desktop di default?? A quanto ne sapevo, nella tua home, si doveva trovare un file nascosto .xinitrc, che ti permetteva di impostare il desktop environment di default; su mdk, a quanto vedo, questo file non c'è. Vedo però che c'è un file, sempre nascosto, di nome .wmrc; io andrei a sfrugugliare là, scrivendoci il nome del window manager che intendi utilizzare. Questo poi, immagino, indicherà a startx quale wm caricare. Prova, e poi ci dici... -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
[newbie] lycoris desktop browser
Hi guys, just wondering if anyone ported over the lycoris desktop browser to suit other distros.. it seems to make connecting to win smb shares as easy as it is in windows... from what I can tell, no manually mounting shares like komba and no half assed implimentations like some of the other alternatives... just curious is all... rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ximian Desktop on MDK 8.2/KDE --- Oops!
Damn --- I got to stop thinking if a little bit is good, a lot more has to be better! I was looking for a Linux alternative to my Windows Contact Management software (Maximizer) that my business and I live by. Evolution looked pretty good and a possible match to my needs. I installed the complete Desktop using their Red Carpet scripted installation feature. I should have taken just Evolution (for now), but got really greedy, thinking that the whole package would give me more of what I have in Maximizer. WellI suppose this would have been OK if GNOME was my default Windows Managerit ain't! Personally... I just don't like GNOME. That's just me...no offense implied. Anyway... Installation seemed to go very well. I have NEVER seen any on-line installation work as smoothly and as well thought out as Ximian's. Unfortunately, I cannot find any solution from them on how to get the thing to work under KDE. At this point in time, everything looks just as it did on KDE before I installed, with one rather interesting difference... All of my icons on my Quick-Start Task Bar are now the same -- the KDE gear icon. when I click on any of them, I get this error message: Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory 'file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Editors/kwrite.desktop' does not exist. Please note that the path is specific to the application icon I clicked on, so it varies with the application I am trying to access. It looks like this newbie is temporarily fooked and it doesn't even feel good! -Ouch!- Could someone who installed Ximian Desktop in MDK 8.3, using KDE as their Windows Manager, please point me to the solution? (Preferably before I scream for jumping in without understanding the choices I made...) I have been running around Ximian's site for answers (and will continue to do so!), but thus far all I have found is that they acknowledge that mods have to be done! ARGH! Dad, when will I grow up and be a competent Linux user like you? Someday, son...someday. I am going badk to do more searching g-r-r-r-r TIA, T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Desktop on MDK 8.2/KDE --- Oops!
I find that as Gnome improves it is less able to run under KDE. I was using evolution and galeon and did a redcarpet upgrade and they were both kaput. After 43 years in this business I am again learning that small individual apps doing a specific job are better than one app trying to do everything. But I really did like Galeon. On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:28:39 -0400 Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn --- I got to stop thinking if a little bit is good, a lot more has to be better! I was looking for a Linux alternative to my Windows Contact Management software (Maximizer) that my business and I live by. Evolution looked pretty good and a possible match to my needs. I installed the complete Desktop using their Red Carpet scripted installation feature. I should have taken just Evolution (for now), but got really greedy, thinking that the whole package would give me more of what I have in Maximizer. WellI suppose this would have been OK if GNOME was my default Windows Managerit ain't! Personally... I just don't like GNOME. That's just me...no offense implied. Anyway... Installation seemed to go very well. I have NEVER seen any on-line installation work as smoothly and as well thought out as Ximian's. Unfortunately, I cannot find any solution from them on how to get the thing to work under KDE. At this point in time, everything looks just as it did on KDE before I installed, with one rather interesting difference... All of my icons on my Quick-Start Task Bar are now the same -- the KDE gear icon. when I click on any of them, I get this error message: Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory 'file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/Applications/Editors/kwrite.desktop' does not exist. Please note that the path is specific to the application icon I clicked on, so it varies with the application I am trying to access. It looks like this newbie is temporarily fooked and it doesn't even feel good! -Ouch!- Could someone who installed Ximian Desktop in MDK 8.3, using KDE as their Windows Manager, please point me to the solution? (Preferably before I scream for jumping in without understanding the choices I made...) I have been running around Ximian's site for answers (and will continue to do so!), but thus far all I have found is that they acknowledge that mods have to be done! ARGH! Dad, when will I grow up and be a competent Linux user like you? Someday, son...someday. I am going badk to do more searching g-r-r-r-r TIA, T -- The directions said to install Windows 98/2000 or better! So I installed Linux! Linux Counter: 241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ximian Desktop on MDK 8.2/KDE --- Oops!
Sage advice, I am sure. Thanks. I have found that copying over KDE links from wherever I can find them to where they need to be is helping me to restore my KDE environment to the way it was before. As long as things are running well enough, I plan to leave the installed Ximian program as is. I probably should have spent some time reviewing the site before installing the program. It's nice, butstill just a P.I.M. I was hoping it was a full-blown contact management software. I guess little apps it is.. T Roland Hughes wrote: I find that as Gnome improves it is less able to run under KDE. I was using evolution and galeon and did a redcarpet upgrade and they were both kaput. After 43 years in this business I am again learning that small individual apps doing a specific job are better than one app trying to do everything. But I really did like Galeon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reoocuring Desktop Zip Icon
Mr. Brinkman, Thank you for your suggestion. For whatever reason, the icon is no longer appearing ... and I haven't even had a chance to try your solution. I will file it for future reference. I had been doing a lot of mucking about to get my harddrive, floppy, zip,and cdrom icons to appear as miniature representations vice blue folders when placed as links in a child panel of the kicker. I also have a quick browse folder of the /mnt directory but the devices will only show up as blue folders. That's OK though. It was just that irratating reappearing zip icon that was driving me crazy. Sincerely, Chris Edwards Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday September 23 2002 07:59 am, Chris Edwards wrote: Would anyone know why an icon for my Zip drive continues to reappear on my desktop every time I boot into Linux (Mandrake 8.1)? Try this. In your home/user/Desktop directory, delete the Zip drive icon and any similar hidden file. Use Konqueror and on the Toolbar, enable View | Show hidden files. Then log out of KDE making sure you've got your desktop like you want it, and Save session for future logons ... checked. On subsequent log-out's, leave this unchecked. Should get rid of that icon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reoocuring Desktop Zip Icon
On Monday September 23 2002 01:03 pm, Chris Edwards wrote: Mr. Brinkman, Friends here, call me Tom Thank you for your suggestion. For whatever reason, the icon is no longer appearing ... and I haven't even had a chance to try your solution. I will file it for future reference. Might not work in the future ;( Seems Mdk Linux is bound and determined to make sure icons clutter up my desktop. After an install, I usually delete 'em all. Never could see any point for havin 'em since everythings available from the menu. So FWIW, if you're like minded, to only way I've found to get rid of the damn Trashcan is to move it with Control Center | Look'n Feel | Desktop | Paths (tab), and change the location to my /home dir rather than ../Desktop/...9.0 introduces a Removable Media icon. What worked for your Zip icon will work for that one too ;) I had been doing a lot of mucking about to get my harddrive, floppy, zip,and cdrom icons to appear as miniature representations vice blue folders when placed as links in a child panel of the kicker. I also have a quick browse folder of the /mnt directory but the devices will only show up as blue folders. Try runnin 'update-menus -n' as root from a terminal. Just a guess, I haven't seen this behavior. and I use the 'slick' icons package rather than KDE's. Caution, I don't remember when the -n option came about, and it's undocumented, might not work for you. If so, just use 'update-menus', but do it as root, not user. That's OK though. It was just that irratating reappearing zip icon that was driving me crazy. We're here to try'n help ;) Sincerely, Chris Edwards Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday September 23 2002 07:59 am, Chris Edwards wrote: Would anyone know why an icon for my Zip drive continues to reappear on my desktop every time I boot into Linux (Mandrake 8.1)? Try this. In your home/user/Desktop directory, delete the Zip drive icon and any similar hidden file. Use Konqueror and on the Toolbar, enable View | Show hidden files. Then log out of KDE making sure you've got your desktop like you want it, and Save session for future logons ... checked. On subsequent log-out's, leave this unchecked. Should get rid of that icon. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NO DESKTOP ICONS IN GNOME
hi, Help! how come my gnome starts without the DESKTOP ICONS? Also right clicking and Left clicking on the desktop does nothing. Grrr!, my KDE 3.0.2 suddenly logs outs, now I have no desktop icons on my Gnome. i wonder what will happen next? any more desktops out there? -- g2 Intelligence, acquired; Wisdom, inherent. RLU # 278414 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NO DESKTOP ICONS IN GNOME
I've had that problem before, see if you can start Nautilus manually. I know that worked for me. As for windows managers, I often prefer Enlightenment over a lot of the others, but it does not use desktop icons. Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: g2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:00 PM To: Mdk_Newbie Subject: [newbie] NO DESKTOP ICONS IN GNOME hi, Help! how come my gnome starts without the DESKTOP ICONS? Also right clicking and Left clicking on the desktop does nothing. Grrr!, my KDE 3.0.2 suddenly logs outs, now I have no desktop icons on my Gnome. i wonder what will happen next? any more desktops out there? -- g2 Intelligence, acquired; Wisdom, inherent. RLU # 278414 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie-it] DESKTOP MANAGER
buondì alla ML Ho installato la mdk 8.2 su di un vecchio P200 con poca Ram e poco disco. Vorrei eliminare la KDE 2.2, finora mai usata, per qualcosa di meno avido. Secondo la vs. esperienza qual'è l'interfaccia grafica più leggera in tutti i sensi (compreso il download visto che ho una 56k)? grazie per l'attenzione. g.paolo __ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novità. http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.messenger.yahoo.com//
Re: [newbie-it] DESKTOP MANAGER
Il ven, 2002-07-19 alle 12:21, giamgax ha scritto: buondì alla ML Ho installato la mdk 8.2 su di un vecchio P200 con poca Ram e poco disco. Vorrei eliminare la KDE 2.2, finora mai usata, per qualcosa di meno avido. Secondo la vs. esperienza qual'è l'interfaccia grafica più leggera in tutti i sensi (compreso il download visto che ho una 56k)? grazie per l'attenzione. g.paolo nella mia esperienza la miglioe e' WindowMaker... la uso da quando avevo un P133 e anche adesso che sono con un Athlon a 800 continua ad essere la mia preferita: non ha i fronzoli di kde o gnome, ma e' leggera, veloce e funzionale. Inoltre non hai bisogno di scaricarla, c'e' nei dischi della Mdk 8.2. Ciao. Alessandro. -- La matematica e' cio' che consente di contare fino a venti senza togliersi le scarpe
Re: [newbie-it] DESKTOP MANAGER
Alessandro Rontani wrote: Il ven, 2002-07-19 alle 12:21, giamgax ha scritto: buondì alla ML Ho installato la mdk 8.2 su di un vecchio P200 con poca Ram e poco disco. Vorrei eliminare la KDE 2.2, finora mai usata, per qualcosa di meno avido. Secondo la vs. esperienza qual'è l'interfaccia grafica più leggera in tutti i sensi (compreso il download visto che ho una 56k)? grazie per l'attenzione. g.paolo nella mia esperienza la miglioe e' WindowMaker... ma e' leggera,veloce e funzionale. Ciao. Alessandro. L'ho provata con la 8.1, a okkio come mangiarisorse non mi sembrava molto diversa da KDE o Gnome . Mi sbaglio? sfrucugliando nella rete leggo di Blackbox ma il link al sito è interrotto. L'avete provata e sapete dirmi se ne vale la pena e dove altro cercarla (su tucows c'è una versione del 2000!)? grazie, ciao. G.Paolo __ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novità. http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.messenger.yahoo.com//
Re: [newbie] Gnome-Desktop Problems
On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 23:46:38 +1000, Fordy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im having some trouble putting icons on my desktop. My desktop has no icons whatsoever on it, and it doesn't have a pop-up menu when i right click on it. In fact there seems to be nothing I can do to change the desktop, or add any icons to it. Advice i've tried - - Adding shortcuts to ~/.gnome-desktop folder. Nothing Happened - Deleting /tmp/orbit-(username), and then adding stuff to my desktop folder. Nothinghappened - Dragging shortcuts from the panel to the desktop. Failure. - Poking around in nautilus menus and gnome configurations, I couldn't find anything that related specifically to the icons on a desktop. In short, 90% of my normal start up screen is inert, and i can only run programs via the panel. Does anyone know of a possible solution I have not tried yet? There should be an option in Nautilus telling it to manage your desktop. You may need to be in 'Advanced' mode to have it visible. Otherwise, you can load gmc and use that instead. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan ... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Gnome-Desktop Problems
Im having some trouble putting icons on my desktop. My desktop has no icons whatsoever on it, and it doesn't have a pop-up menu when i right click on it. In fact there seems to be nothing I can do to change the desktop, or add any icons to it. Advice i've tried - - Adding shortcuts to ~/.gnome-desktop folder. Nothing Happened - Deleting /tmp/orbit-(username), and then adding stuff to my desktop folder. Nothinghappened - Dragging shortcuts from the panel to the desktop. Failure. - Poking around in nautilus menus and gnome configurations, I couldn't find anything that related specifically to the icons on a desktop. In short, 90% of my normal start up screen is inert, and i can only run programs via the panel. Does anyone know of a possible solution I have not tried yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] Desktop
Alle 08:46, giovedì 28 febbraio 2002, hai scritto: Il giorno 01:15, giovedì 28 febbraio 2002 hai scritto: Mi sono sparite le icone del desktop di Gnome Sotto la cartella Desktop trovo le icone di KDE Gnome dove le mette? Ciao Elio Il desktop di GNOME è nella cartella: file:/home/user/gnome-desktop dove user è ovviamente il tuo utente Daniele Ok ho visto e ci sono le icone ma perchè sono sparite dal monitor? Come faccio a riportarle? Elio
