Re: Americana guesswork
It's late, but never too late to grab some passionate inspiration off the P2 list before hitting the sack. Thanks Jeff W. and Smilin' Jim C.
Re: American/creating a scene
we have to do some flag-waving ourselves the fact that 5 of the Grammy Nominees in the Cont. Folk Category this year are "Americana" acts, alt-country, ya'llternative, ya'llterna-honk, what ever you want to call it, THIS HELPS CREATE A SCENE. Use this flag to raise enough awareness that this music is different, deserves its own category in the Grammys, and then everyone else will eventually catch on. If an artist won a Grammy in "Alterna honk" this would open doors for all other similar artists, sales, gigs, everywhere. Hell, might even get lucky after a show from time to time g (I did not say that)
RE: Americana guesswork
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Moran/Vargo Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:31 PM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Americana guesswork Some country version of Marilyn Manson or Rob Zombie might be able to briefly pull it off and we could ride on their coattails. More sex and drugs! For the most part, we're all a pretty conservative lot, and I doubt our "ethics" would ever allow us to go the route of Marilyn Manson. We need to get used to the fact that Pine State tried this one. Not really Zombie or Manson but certainly psychotic. More like Doo Rag on lots of speed with violent tendencies. I don't know why anyone thinks there needs to be a Nirvana for this type of music (whatever that is) or that something is about to or should "break". As Jeff Wall and others have pointed out there tends to be a cyclical visible period of interest in roots music about every 10 or 15 years. Some periods (Southern Rock and The Eagles) were more commerically successful than say, the period that brought us Scruffy the Cat, The Blasters, Jason the Scorchers et al. There has been (and will continue to be) great music all along, chart buster or no. I predicted about 4 years ago that glam would come back in full force- it looks like it's gathering steam. The more things change Nicholas
Re: Del Lords favor to ask
M Although I don't have either on CD if anyone turns you on to were I can buy one let me know. If you have no luck you might try contacting Eric Ambel (guitarist) through a band he just produced call Genghis Angus. Allen K is GA's singer and might have a # for you [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Luck Dutch Crowd of One -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Del Lords favor to ask Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:00 PM P2-ers, I was digging through some old cassettes earlier today, adn come upon two Del Lords albums, "Based On A True Story" and "Johnny Comes Marching Home." Naturally, as I attempted to play them, they were both beyond even moderate fidelity. Does anyone out there have either/both of these on CD or better cassette that they can dub for me? I'll be glad to pay cost. Thanks. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road nnp (now not playing): Del Lords
Reported today: How one band survived trends
January 20, 1999 Rock Dreams Elude the Numbers, But They Just Keep On Trucking By ROBERT TOMSHO Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL KENT, Ohio -- Robert Kidney still gets up every morning believing that he could become a rock 'n' roll star. "I am not grasping at straws," declares the founder of a local outfit known as the Numbers Band. The 51-year-old guitarist is, however, bucking odds that grow more astronomical by the day. Although he and his 44-year-old brother, Jack, have kept their band going for nearly three decades, the nightspots where they once reigned as local heroes are long gone. Meanwhile, despite a few agonizing brushes with broader fame, age alone now dooms them among MTV-era recording executives who have never heard them play a note. "Kids want to buy the records of artists they perceive as their peers," says David Simone, the top creative executive at Los Angeles-based Geffen Records. "My advice to them is to get a day job." That would all seem to make the Kidneys' continued quest grandly delusional. Even in a culture that worships great dreamers who fulfill their youthful ambitions, most people aren't destined to become the next Bill Gates, Mick Jagger or Meryl Streep. Instead, they make thousands of little compromises and bend to the limits of their energies, talents and fears. But there are still people like the Kidneys, who discover that there is sometimes more to a dream than simply making it come true. Not that living with such knowledge is easy. As old venues have closed, they have often found themselves competing with blaring sports-bar televisions or playing in cramped cafes where they must dodge dancers while performing. At one club, the young crowd took to the floor only when the jukebox was fired up during their breaks. "Some nights," says Robert Kidney, "you're about as important as the popcorn machine." He might have given up years ago, except that the Numbers Band seemed to stir up some rare magic when it came together here in 1970, at a sprawling basement club known as the Kove. As many as 900 people a night packed in to hear their dark but driving mix of Chicago-style blues and wild bop jazz. Amid talk of tours and recording contracts, the brothers "were getting there," says former Cleveland disk jockey Lawrence "Kid Leo" Travagliante, now a vice president at Columbia Records. "They were hot." 'Fastest Gun in Town' Jack Kidney, who joined the band on harmonica and sax in 1973, presumed that it was only a matter of time before they were on world tour. The attention was even more intoxicating for his charismatic brother, the band's guitarist, frontman and primary songwriter. "I was the fastest gun in town," says Robert Kidney. But at an age when most careers are only beginning, their fortunes suddenly cratered. A 1975 fire destroyed the Kove, triggering a fruitless search for another venue with the same allure. They found one promising spot, but it closed down for health-code violations. The once-loyal crowds dwindled. The musicians bickered as Robert Kidney balked at shifting to a more commercial sound or a lighter-hearted stage presence. Every move they made seemed wrong. Fired from the Numbers Band one night after he wore a chimpanzee mask on stage, bass player Gerald Casale formed a band called Devo, which almost instantly became a top recording act for Warner Brothers. With Numbers Band performances still netting praise, Robert Kidney thought his time had arrived one night when famed record producer Jerry Wexler pulled up in a limousine outside a Kent club where they were playing. Mr. Kidney rushed to the door but, instead of coming in, the man who had helped launch Aretha Franklin's career headed into a nearby bar. There, he signed up a novelty band that played with a large electric goose on stage. By the mid-1980s, band members were clearing less than $100 a week each and making their own albums on a shoestring. Players came and went. Demoralized and confused, Jack Kidney took a day job digging ditches and, later, as a maintenance man. Although he continued playing, he also got married, moved out of town and vowed not to build his life around the band. "The whole thing that I had carried around with me since childhood was over," he says. "I had to start looking at the band in another way." More Drink, Darker Music Robert didn't adjust as quickly or as well. He drank increasing quantities of gin and his behavior became erratic. He wrote darker songs peopled with bikers, hit men and thieves. There was "Hotwire": "So when I look out there/All I see are yesterdays ... /I mean, it's just like that/It's all gone." "I just wanted my little piece of the action," he says. "I thought we deserved it. It was killing me." Indeed, his debts mounted, his marriage crumbled and by 1990, his health had unraveled to the point that he had to withdraw from the band for five months to recover from a
Re: Americana guesswork
I'm not saying it's inevitable by any means. But so far, every claim that it can't ignores the fact that right now it *is* happening in another genre, and every reason for the claim that it can't happen is countered by that swing revival. A lot of things have to come together, but obviously it *can* happen with alt-country. Bob I agree with you Bob, but in our town, and I think its probably true all over, is that one thing Swing and Rockabilly has going for it that alt-country doesn't is the whole fashion aspect, which allows listeners to participate in a whole other way. When was the last time you saw somebody walking down the street and could tell right away that they were an alt-country fan? Tom Moran The Deliberate Strangers' Old Home Place http://members.tripod.com/~Deliberate_Strangers/index.html
Charlie Burton/Shithook
Just wanted to let you all know that Charlie Burton´s old band from Nebraska, The Hiccups, have a great new CD out on their own. They´re called Shithook and the name of the CD is "When A Boyscout Gets The Blues". It should appeal to any fan of Charlie´s older material. Contact Dave Robel for information at: Dave Robel 1201 Sumner Lincoln, NE 68502 USA Jerker Emanuelson Sound Asleep Records Sweden np. D. Braxton Harris-Deep Dark Black (great CD)
Re: Americana guesswork
... one thing Swing and Rockabilly has going for it that alt-country doesn't is the whole fashion aspect, which allows listeners to participate in a whole other way. When was the last time you saw somebody walking down the street and could tell right away that they were an alt-country fan? Tom Moran That's a good point, Tom--but Need for Official Clothes is also a flashing neon sign of a passing fad at work--with the half-life of retro two-tone shoes and pseudo zoot suitsI wanna weigh in with the many wise voices of the last 24 hours who've been pointing out the good news that THIS music--in whatever version-of-the-decade it travels as--will just keep on coming. (Not necessarily skyrocketing...) Meanwhile, I think it was the great early alt.country artist Hank Thoreau (of Hank Thoreau and the Deliberate Suburbanites) who said "avoid all enterprises requiring acquisition of new clothes." Barry M.
Re: Reported today: How one band survived trends
Thanks to Barry for posting the article about Kent, Ohio's The Numbers Band. As I've mentioned on this list before, this band -- originally called 15-60-75 -- was my first "bar band" - the first band I ever saw live in a bar, and remains near the top of my list of live bands, whether in a bar, an arena or a stadium. As a 16-year-old in nearby Stow, Ohio, around 1971-72, myself and my pals would hitch-hike into Kent, slide into the subterranean Kove bar, taking turns using my brother's draft card, and sit in the front church-pew, blowing joints, and getting blown away by this kick-ass blues band that mixed rawness and urbanity, with consumate professionalism and musicianship. They mixed originals with blues and RB standards, such as Sea Cruise, Big-Legged Woman, Dust My Broom, Kansas City, and on and on. I'll never forget 'em. -- Terry Smith ps just for info, their sax player's sister was some little-known rock singer from Cuyahoga Falls named Chrissie Hynde.
Re: Blueberries
CK wrote: This Blueberries CD kicks ass. Its the arithmetic mean of The Jayhawks and Blue Mountain. Which, I guess, would make it Wilco's first CD. Its good. Thanks for the recommendations. Hey, it wasn't #5 on my "Best of '98" for nuthin'... (and Lucinda didn't make my list...so what does *that* tell ya?) g waiting for the barrage... Paul
Mike Ireland on tour
Hi. Mike Ireland Dan Mesh will be heading over to Ireland to play in late April/early May. Since the record wasn't released in England (just finished imports through Shellshock) I haven't had any luck finding anyone over there interested in doing shows. I figured I would post, just in case any of you English have any advice to give about putting a show or two together over there in that time frame. Private email is good. Thanks. Joyce Joyce Linehan Artist Management 10 A Burt Street Dorchester, MA 02124 http://www.empathetic.com
Re: spelling
In a message dated 99-01-19 21:27:15 EST, you write: At 01:52 PM 1/18/99 EST, Elena wrote: P.S. It has been pointed out to me by some close friends that it is painfully obvious from my posts to this list that my spelling is ATROCIOUS. Sorry y'all, I'll work on it. (Gotta get spellcheck, and stop typing so fast). Gud speling is not a prerequitsit for memborship in this comunity. Thank God Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764 Eye ten two uhgris holehardedlee whiff Jeph. Rawb Mykleyne thnaks giys, i fel beter nwo Elener
Re: Americana guesswork
In a message dated 99-01-19 23:50:40 EST, Jeff writes: Support your local musician, promote this music every chance you get. The only way this stuff is ever going to grow will be through Grass Roots (Grass Roots? my god, I sound like a fucking communist!) It won't ever be big with the public, But it will always be big with me. I'll always have room on the couch and an extra burger for a road musician. And I have a sheet of plywood and some cinder blocks so you always got a stage in my backyard. May have to take you up on that Jeff, especially now that you've offered, heh, heh, heh... A friend of mine was painting the most dismal picture for me the other day of the financial future of an alt country artist. It seemed pretty realistic, but what are you going to do? Like salmon working it's way upstream, you keep going, going, grateful to be able to have the opprtunity to get out there and share your music with some like minded folks. I'll probably come back from this tour we've got planned deep in some hole somewhere, the financial hole I've come to know so well, but I wouldn't trade this opportunity for anything. And, besides, it sure is a hell of a lot of fun Elena Skye
Re: Del Lords favor to ask
In a message dated 99-01-20 02:15:21 EST, you write: I was digging through some old cassettes earlier today, adn come upon two Del Lords albums, "Based On A True Story" and "Johnny Comes Marching Home." Naturally, as I attempted to play them, they were both beyond even moderate fidelity. Does anyone out there have either/both of these on CD or better cassette that they can dub for me? I'll be glad to pay cost. Thanks. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road nnp (now not playing): Del Lords you could also try to reach him at his club, The Lakeside Lounge, in Manhattan. But isn't he recording a new Bottle Rockets record in Minneapolis right now. H Good luck, Elena Skye Elena
Re: Americana guesswork
Good Bob Soron: I'm not saying it's inevitable by any means. But so far, every claim that (alt-country) can't (get huge) ignores the fact that right now it *is* happening in another genre, and every reason for the claim that it can't happen is countered by that swing revival. A lot of things have to come together, but obviously it *can* happen with alt-country. Two large, looming diffences between "Alt-Country" and the Swing Revival: Swing has a Dance and a Look. Although mutton chop sideburns might qualify for a Look, standing aloof in the back of the bar with a bottle of Bud doesn't make much a Dance. Kip
Re: Americana guesswork
Kip writes:Although mutton chop sideburns might qualify for a Look, standing aloof in the back of the bar with a bottle of Bud doesn't make much a Dance. That depends on the kind of hat you're wearing, doesn't it? g Have you ever been to Texas? When the Derailers played Saturday night there were hundreds of people dancing. Of course it *is* kinda hard to dance to Son Volt. Jim, smilin'
Re: Americana guesswork
Meanwhile, I think it was the great early alt.country artist Hank Thoreau (of Hank Thoreau and the Deliberate Suburbanites) who said "avoid all enterprises requiring acquisition of new clothes." Barry M. I liked his second album best, "Mom's Buying the Groceries (But Emerson's Buying the Wine)." Lance . . .
Re: the fifth Beatle
I believe that if there was a fifth Beatle, it was Carl Perkins. Any takers? Junior There's a great scene in Go, Cat, Go, David Mcgee's bio of Perkins, where Carl, while touring England, spends a long 1964(?) night in the studio with the Beatles. The Fab 4 are like kids in a candy store. I believe it true that the Beatles covered Carl Perkins more than any other songwriter. MM
DEADLINE'S SOON: TWANGFEST
TWANGFEST: WANNA PLAY? If so, better get your asses moving. The deadline is January 25th. A clarification: If you sent us a submission for the Edges cd, that doesn't necessarily mean that you submitted to play Twangfest as well. If you would like to play Twangfest, you have to let us know directly. Contact me offlist if you have any questions. marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Subject: Twangfest 3: Calling All P2 Bands! Mere months after the hangovers have ceased and the motel rooms have been repaired, we're already makin' plans for Twangfest3, once again taking place at Off Broadway in faboo St. Louis, MO on June 11-13. There'll be lots of cool stuff to announce about this event, but right now we want to get things moving on one of the most important things about the whole shootin' match--the music. While we want the whole damn world to attend, Twangfest is first and foremost a P2-centered event, and that's why we're putting out the call here for your band submissions. You can ask anyone who's played at previous T'fests just how well bands get treated, and we're working hard to make that treatment even better--after all, lots of us on your Twang Gang are IN bands. That means you *will* get paid and have accommodations provided, and we're doing our damnedest to make both of those more attractive every year. Like last year, the Twang Gang will be selecting a headliner for each of the three nights (and we think the folks we've been talking to are gonna knock your socks off), but there's been a bit of a change this year in how we're going to pick the rest of the combos. Because we wanted to tap into the great wealth of knowledge out there in P2-land and because we want to spread out the payola, this time around we've got a band submission subcommittee to make the tough decisions on who plays and who doesn't. Chris Knaus, Jamie DePolo, and Bill Silvers have graciously accepted the task, along with Twang Gang members Amy Haugesag and Marie Arsenault. They have no idea what they're getting into... You may or may not be aware that not a one of these folks is in a band, and that's by design. While we think that the lineups at T'fest for the past two years have been excruciatingly excellent, we felt that a panel made up of non-players would help to keep the selection process fair as this event grows. What do we need from you? It's pretty simple right now. We need three copies of a CD or tape, info on the band that you think will fill us in on who you are and what you're about, and contact info (*especially* your e-mail address--this is an internet-centered event, after all). And while your band will be judged on its merits, your participation in this mailing list will definitely figure into the equation; like we said, this is first and foremost a celebration of all things P2. Don't get us wrong, though; lurkers are not only welcome but are encouraged to submit. Send your packages to the following address: Marie Arsenault 1306 Shelton Ave. Nashville, TN 37216 Get those submissions in with a postmark of NO LATER THAN JANUARY 25, as we've got a big job to do and we want to able to announce all the band names in plenty of time to include them in ads, press releases, etc. We'll send out reminders of this deadline on a regular basis on P2 for those of you with substance-abuse-related short-term-memory loss. If you have questions about this process or any other thing about Twangfest, send 'em along to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll answer 'em or at least make you think that we have. And in the very soonish future, we'll have the swanky Twangfest web site (www.twangfest.com, natch) updated frequently to keep you up to date on all our doin's. So what are you waiting for? Whether you be coffeehouse f*lkies or roadhouse rockers, we want YOUR submissions. Step on it! January 25th will be here before you even blink! SIDE NOTE: We haven't forgotten about the new "Edges From The Postcard2" CD, and we thank all of you who have sent us material so far. We've run into a slight delay with the project, since there have been some changes in how the project will be handled, so we need to hold off just for a bit. We'll keep you posted on what's going on, never fear. Love, Your Twang Gang (Marie Arsenault, Junior Barnard, Matt Benz, Amy Haugesag, Kip Loui, Dave Purcell, John Wendland, Mark Wyatt)
Re: Del Lords favor to ask
At 11:00 PM 1/19/99 EST, you wrote: P2-ers, I was digging through some old cassettes earlier today, adn come upon two Del Lords albums, "Based On A True Story" and "Johnny Comes Marching Home." Naturally, as I attempted to play them, they were both beyond even moderate fidelity. Does anyone out there have either/both of these on CD or better cassette that they can dub for me? I'll be glad to pay cost. Thanks. Not really an answer to your question but a Del Lords Best of is coming on Restless is March. Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.
Re: Americana guesswork
Smilin' Jim (Jim, why are you always smilin'?) writes: That depends on the kind of hat you're wearing, doesn't it? g Have you ever been to Texas? When the Derailers played Saturday night there were hundreds of people dancing. Of course it *is* kinda hard to dance to Son Volt. One of the most amazing sights I have ever seen at a gig was a hundred or more bodies pogo-ing to the rocked-up version of Windfall at Dingwalls in London, two novembers ago. Stevie np Dick Gaughan - Sail On
Re: Americana guesswork
Kip writes:Although mutton chop sideburns might qualify for a Look, standing aloof in the back of the bar with a bottle of Bud doesn't make much a Dance. Smilin' Jim (Jim, why are you always smilin'?) writes: That depends on the kind of hat you're wearing, doesn't it? g Have you ever been to Texas? When the Derailers played Saturday night there were hundreds of people dancing. Of course it *is* kinda hard to dance to Son Volt. Again, I guess I'm picking more on the Tupelo Rock (tm) crowd than the retro-tonk thing. Goes without saying that you can two-step and dosy-doe all night long to the likes of the Derailers/Dale Watson et al. But will the Derailers be the "Alt-Country Nirvana"? Naw. They're fun and all and sure got the sound down but I can't see them crossing over the way that even the Mavericks did a few years back. My own personal opinion. Kip
Car Tunes
Car Tunes WEVL FM 90 Memphis Monday's 4-6 PM Cut my legs and call me shortly, damn me. I ran off and forgot my playlist on the air room desk on Monday. Since it is probably in the air room trash now, here is what I played, to the best of my recollection (and definitely, not necessarily in this order)! The Mavericks - a Buddy Holly song off of the tribute record Lone Justice - Working Man Blues / Don't Toss Us Away Bruce Robison - 12 Bar Blues Pawtucket's - Hatchie Bottom / Mississippi Parking Lot The Ex-Husbands - Tequila, Salt Lime / All the Way From Abilene Alison Krauss - The Three Bells Connie Smith - Looking For A Reason Greta Lee - Somebody New Flat Duo Jets - Hot Rod Baby Cheri Knight - If Wishes Were Horses Dale Watson - Blessed And Damned BR5-49 - Outta Habit Hillbilly Idol - When It Rains I Get Wet Jim Roll - Backseat Iris Dement - something from the first record Lucinda Williams - Too Cool To Be Forgotten Sorry ya'll, this is all I can remember
Re: To Zion
CK sugar coats it: Wonder no more. Local H sucks. The only reason people go to their shows is to see how much noise two guys can make. High Five Mother Fucker indeed. wasn't that the original principle behind the House of Freaks? (2 guys making as much racket as they can?) ObTwang: I think a HoF member played on the Dirtball CD... Personally, the loudest 2 piece I know (and had the joy to work with for a few years) was Cincinnati's own Croatan! At one point, their guitarist/vocalist, Jenny, had a 6 foot box that contained all of her pedals, etc. ObTwang: Their last release was on Man's Ruin, thus sharing a label with the Cowslingers...oh wait...that's not twang...nevermind! g Paul/Pop Booking
Nirvana buzz (was: Re: Americana guesswork)
Neal Weiss wrote: Jeez, I wouldn't wish that type of pressure on any band. Besides, I don't think one can even find good enough odds to place a bet on such a thing. Nirvana was a total freak of nature, a lot of talent and timing came into play, but none of it, I don't believe was ever forecasted. It just happened. Period. (With the aid of some big label marketing bucks, of course). I agree with Neal... of course, I do still own (somewhere) that free Nirvana shirt that Geffen sent along as a "gift" with the new album upon its release. Of course, I stopped wearing it when they became "chic". Now that Swervedriver shirt is another story! g (I believe the Nirvana sticker that came around that time is still stuck on the door of the room I was living in at that time, at least someone told me that the ol' "sticker door" was still around) Paul/Pop Booking
RE: Kevin Gordon / Southside Johnny
The Iceman sayeth: np: Joe Henry -Fuse Tell us more! What is it like and when will it be released? Jim Cox
re: Americana Guesswork
JP Cold Spring wrote: Of course, what we really need is our own Nirvana. You mean like ANGRY JOHNNY THE KILLBILLIES? g Kip Loui wrote But see, that's the thing...there's never going to be an "Alt-Country Nirvana" because fifteen year-olds don't generally listen to Steve Earle or Dale Watson or even the Old 97's. Tom Moran wrote: You would have to do one hell of a PR job to foist it off on the public. Some country version of Marilyn Manson or Rob Zombie might be able to briefly pull it off and we could ride on their coattails. I think this was best exampled in Nashville when the local press dubbed Angry Johnny as "the Marilyn Manson of country music." This drew out of few teenaged boys to the show, who (as my friend guessed) left after the 3rd song! It was good for a laugh. Paul/Pop Booking
FW: The 16th Annual Tottenham Bluegrass Festival
For you north-of-the-border types... -Original Message- From: Bluegrass music discussion. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allan Benner Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The 16th Annual Tottenham Bluegrass Festival Hi Folks; Just a note to inform anyone interested that the 16th Annual Tottenham Bluegrass Festival Site is now updated with lineup, dates, prices and we've added a few pictures this year. This year we've got Doyle Lawson, The Gibson Brothers, Larry Sparks, The Rarely Herd, Blue Mule and The Spinney Brothers amongst others. The dates are June 25, 26 27. We're located in the near north just north of Toronto an easy drive from New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio. Americans find out just how far your dollars will go up here. Check it out at http://www.simcoe.igs.net/bluegrass/ Thanks Al Benner
Re: DEADLINE'S SOON: TWANGFEST
In a message dated 1/20/99, 10:09:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If so, better get your asses moving. The deadline is January 25th. Is the 25th the date it needs to be postmarked by or the date it needs to be received? Deb
Re: Americana guesswork
Kip writes: (Jim, why are you always smilin'?) It's either the drugs or the atmosphere here in Austin. That and the fact that I'm secretly in love with Babooski. Jim, smilin'
Lupus Foundation L.A. twang benefit
announcing an ongoing free concert seriesThe TIP JARat The Culver Saloon in Culver City__To kick off this series, we will be hosting a concert to benefit the LupusFoundation_Thursday, January 21_featuring performances by: Dean Thomas Tim Ferguson of The Cousin Lovers The Cross Country Band A HREF=http://acousticmusic.net/artists/rickshea/Rick Shea/A A HREF=http://home.earthlink.net/%7Ejhuber/Farmer Tan/AA HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/danjanisch/music/index.htmDan Janisch/A A HREF=http://members.aol.com/neilmooney/ Neil Mooney/AThousand Dollar WeddingWaynesboroplus...D.J. Jim will be spinning his vintage vinyl Country Western gemsfor your dancing pleasure Admission is free!!! (but donations will be accepted)SHOW STARTS AT 8pmThe Culver Saloon is 21 and over Located at 11513 Washington Blvd.(310) 391-1519(see below for directions to club)_Check out the website:A HREF=http://members.aol.com/chuckandco/page/index.htmhttp://hometown.aol.com/chuckandco//A_for booking or other information contact chuck Co. Entertainment:P.O. Box 5301, Playa del Rey, CA 90296email: [EMAIL PROTECTED](310) 250-1317**Hey! where is this place?The Culver Saloon is in Culver City, 3 blocks west of the 405 fwy onWashington Blvd ...be careful you are not on Washington Place whichruns parallel to the north of Washington Blvd.i really want to meet thebrilliant city planners who thought THAT was a good idea..Directions to club:From LAX:405 N. to Culver Blvd. exit. Right (?) at exit to Washington Blvd (pass Washington Place) turn left on Washington Blvd The Culver Saloon is about 3 blocks down on the right side.From Westwood/Valley:405 S. (pass the Santa Monica/10 fwy) to Washington Blvd exit, Left atexit (i think) to Washington Blvd (not Washington Place) Left on Washington BlvdThe Culver Saloon is about 3 blocks down on the right side. The Address is: 11513 Washington Blvd. Los Angeles CA 90066 Phone # is: (310) 391-1519SEE YA THERE!! NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.netFor the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Re: Kevin Gordon / Southside Johnny
As a weasel I snagged a prerelease from the mammoth people and its good, real good. Back label says "Available on cd cassette March 9, 1999, but you all know how that goes. I like this one better than Trampoline but I'm sure some won't. More groove and less austere. Great writing though. Iceman Jim Cox wrote: The Iceman sayeth: np: Joe Henry -Fuse Tell us more! What is it like and when will it be released? Jim Cox
Joe Henry -- was: Kevin Gordon / Southside Johnny
They featured a Joe Henry tune on Felicity last night!! woohoo!! It sounded like a male Kate Bush meets Sarah McLachlan. But I am open to hearing the whole thing . . . I mean he is an old Ann Arbor-ite g!! -jim ps -- for those of you who missed it Felicity tried to have sex. It was a great moment for america at an opportune time.
NEA (was RE: Jim Roll (was Re: Joe Henry -- was: Kevin Gordon / Southside Johnny)
Hey! Did they ever update that page on the web with the list of performers for the weekend? Does anyone still have that url address? thanks, rebecca I just got confirmation that Jim Roll is playing at the Nashville Extravaganza on Saturday February 13th at Robert's Western Wear at Midnight. Hope to see you're cheery faces there. Jim, smilin'
Jim Roll (was Re: Joe Henry -- was: Kevin Gordon / Southside Johnny)
I just got confirmation that Jim Roll is playing at the Nashville Extravaganza on Saturday February 13th at Robert's Western Wear at Midnight. Hope to see you're cheery faces there. Jim, smilin'
Fwd: [merlehaggard] VIRUS
From: JOHN H SMITH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merle Fans, I received this warning in an e-mail message this morning and called IBM to confirm the warning. The guy there said to heed all warnings, because even if it's false, it's better to be safe than sorry. John Subject: VIRus Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 9:35 AM WARNING Message from IBM If you receive an e-mail titled.JOIN THE CREW or PENPALS -- DO NOT open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as many people as you can. This is a new virus and not many people know about it! This information was received this morning by IBM, Please share it with anyone that might access the internet!! PENPAL appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter it is TOO late. The Trojan horse virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in your box! This virus will destroy your hard drive and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your box and whose mail is in their box and so on and on! So delete any message titled PENPAL or JOIN THE CREW. This virus can do major DAMAGE to worldwide networks! PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND PEOPLE IN YOUR MAILBOXES. AOL HAS SAID THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS VIRUS AND THERE IS NO REMEDY FOR THIS. FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR ON-LINE FRIENDS A.S.A.P.! ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at http://www.onelist.com and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. LONG LIVE THE HAG!! Remember to invite your friends to join us. Just add the link http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/merlehaggard to all your email!!!.
Re: Fwd: [merlehaggard] VIRUS
Please DO NOT send attachments to the list. For that matter, don't send warnings about bogus viruses to the list. It's impossible to get a virus from email (unless it comes with an attachment, and you open the attachment).--don
Jon Langford show and exhibition
I fwd 2 informations: JON LANGFORD - Solo Acoustic Show and exhibition opening - Etchings, paintings and gravestones at GAS 3417 Kaniff Ave., Hamtramick MI 48212 Saturday 6th February 1999 Limited space - call 313 892 4316 for information, reservations etc. HeerBeeeMahnstaas at Schubas Tuesday 26th around 9 FINAL BILL Kelly Hogan Jon Langford are Bear In A Leglock COW LILY Chris Mills (top shelf spiritual honk-tonk act) Rudy Day (solo acoustic) The Amazing Brian Star (He's a star) Tracey Dear The Greatest Living Englishman come along everybody Ciao Nobby Mekons homepage: http://www.t-online.de/home/Norbert.Knape/mekonhom.htm
Re: Fwd: [merlehaggard] VIRUS
Shoot, even Haggard fans succumb to the gullibility virus! g See http://www.gtii.com/gtii/nuhoaxes.html for a humorous, relevant article. Lianne
Re: Lupus Foundation L.A. twang benefit
To tag onto Mike's post about the benefit show at the Culver Saloon, here is a complete list of the acts who will be appearing (in order): Dean Thomas Tim Ferguson of The Cousin Lovers The Cross Country Band Rick Shea (currently touring as one of Alvin's Guilty Men) Waynesboro (featuring Randy Weeks, ex-member of Lonesome Strangers and writer of "Can't Let Go," the song for which Lucinda is nominated for a Grammy in Female Rock Vocal Performance) Neil Mooney (see show review in last issue of Rural Route) Thousand Dollar Wedding Farmer Tan (see review and interview in the last two issues of Rural Route) Dan Janisch (see CD review in last issue of Rural Route)
Phil Judd
After leaving Split Enz and before forming the rather ordinary Schnell Fenster Phil Judd had a band called the Swingers which had a couple of hits in Aus NZ with _It Ain't What You Dance_ and the local classic _Counting The Beat_ which I believe made #1 pop on both sides of the Tasman. Those into the earlier (more Judd influenced) Enz sound would likely find the Swingers also to their taste. At the very least _Counting The Beat_ is well worth tracking down for a listen. cheers, - james matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] "name me a song that everybody knows, i'll bet you it belongs to acuff/rose"
Johnny Rodrieguz
Does anyone out there know the details of Johnny's recent murder conviction? The little details that have been available via Blue Chip have made it all sound very weird. If anyone knows of a way to get to local newspaper accounts or anything at all, I would appreciate it very much. --david cantwell
Extravaganza
Hello - quick note about Extravaganza, for those who are interested. We're
("we" being Tar Hut) are pleased to announce the addition of Nadine to our
showcase at Robert's Western Wear on Friday, February 12th.
Nadine is from St.Louis, and the St. Louis people can tell you just how much
ass they kick.
Here's the showcase lineup, for those of you keeping score at home:
9pm - Nadine
10pm - King Radio
11pm - Martin's Folly
12am - The Ex-Husbands
So there you go. I hope to see youI'll be there giving away
free, cuddly, cute little kittens.
Boston question - 78 rpm
I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then, so I wasn't paying attention. Does anyone know of anyplace in New england where I can get a 78 player repaired? Thanks. Joyce Linehan Artist Management 10 A Burt Street Dorchester, MA 02124 http://www.empathetic.com
Re: Johnny Rodrieguz
In a message dated 1/20/99 4:26:58 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone out there know the details of Johnny's recent murder conviction? The little details that have been available via Blue Chip have made it all sound very weird. If anyone knows of a way to get to local newspaper accounts or anything at all, I would appreciate it very much. --david cantwell he hasn't been convicted. yet. he has been indicted, and was supposed to show up for a court hearing yesterday. he's presently out on a $50,000 bond.
Re: LEGAL-FINANCIAL ADVICE for Twangfest
From the Twang Gang We need your advice on setting up our bank account so that none of the individual Twangfest committee members has the account on his or her social security number. I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs which demand that a band representative provide a SS# before payment for a gig. (Years ago, one of my associates got audited and the IRS did not accept even his cancelled checks that other band members got paid for a particular gig. Since hearing this, we've "spread the pain around" - just in case . . . ) Tom Smith
Re: LEGAL-FINANCIAL ADVICE for Twangfest
Tom Smith wrote: I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs which demand that a band representative provide a SS# before payment for a gig. (Years ago, one of my associates got audited and the IRS did not accept even his cancelled checks that other band members got paid for a particular gig. Since hearing this, we've "spread the pain around" - just in case . . . ) Happens most frequently when you are playing at Universitiess and other sorts of non-profits, and passport numbers required in Europe. We've never had a problem with IRS. I am going to take a guess though that when you are making the big and/or regular bucks you would set the musicians up as employees and give them weekly checks, taxes and social security taken out, etc. That is a guess however, Sarah
Re: Boston question - 78 rpm
Joyce Linehan wrote: I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then, so I wasn't paying attention. Does anyone know of anyplace in New england where I can get a 78 player repaired? Thanks. Most of the people that used to repair stereo gear are still out there working. They just list themselves as VCR repair shops now. Try them. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Untold Wealth Of Musicians
At 04:53 PM 1/20/99 +, you wrote: I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs which demand that a band representative provide a SS# before payment for a gig. (Years ago, one of my associates got audited and the IRS did not accept even his cancelled checks that other band members got paid for a particular gig. Since hearing this, we've "spread the pain around" - just in case . . . ) Tom Smith It's good to see the I.R.S. crack down on the huge untold wealth that all musicians are earning out there. In the meantime, you don't have to pay F.I.C.A. taxes after you amass approximately $60,000 in wages earned. Nope, the tax laws aren't designed to favor the wealthy. I would have loved to hear Clinton have the balls to say he's getting rid of that inequity in his speech last night. For an eye-opener, BTW, go check out the following web-site http://www.cofcc.org and see where the likes of Bob Barr and Tom Delay give speeches and write articles. Go see where they have links to and what they have to say about Lincoln and MLK. Get to know some of the people behind the Clinton impeachment and who you should really be scared of. -John -John
Re: Boston question - 78 rpm
Joyce Linehan wrote: I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then, so I wasn't paying attention. Does anyone know of anyplace in New england where I can get a 78 player repaired? Thanks. Joyce...there is a great store in Billerica, MA called Needle in a Haystack that specializes in needles obviously, but a big part of their business is repairing old gramophones etc...don't have the number handy but I'd give them a call...
Re: Clubs/Social Security
Many clubs, and especially festivals I play at want my SS # since I am the ring leader. I fill out all the paper work they can dish out, and pay my band with checks from my music account which is separate from my personal checking account. I sometimes even pay myself with a check (that I later may deposit it personal account etc.). I have never had any problems, and I have done this for years. I file 1099's on my guys and they all pay taxes bla bla bla or atleast I think they do. I have had trouble with Uncle Sam before, but it was over sales tax, which can be a real bitch if you don't have a lawyer or accountant to fall back on. So I hired a lawyer who is also an accountant. I learned that trick from Jerry Lee down here in E Town. Thankyouverrrymuch. Did I mention the buisness end of the music biz sucks? Nancy
Re: Boston question - 78 rpm
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Joyce Linehan wrote: I know there was a thread about this recently, but I didn't have one then, so I wasn't paying attention. So, Joyce, been on Ebay recently? g Bob (a recovering Ebay user myself)
I AM THE AMERICANA(TM)
Sounds like a Billy Childish record or sumthin'... Anyhow, folks, fear not! I am the saviour of AMERICANA(TM). I will fight with my last breath to defend and save AMERICANA(TM) from the grips of the moneybags... in Nashville, in NYC, in LA, in Austin... they're everywhere... and if they hang me from a cross, then so be it. Wouldn't that throw an even bigger wrench into the Y2K problem, wow! I wasn't dubbed MR. AMERICANA(TM) fer nuthin' ya know? This is my purpose in life... and heads are going to rock, and Paula will kiss my a$$. I study life insurance for a reason, and you will see why and how this will all unfold in due time... you have to play dirty to if you want to defeat the scum. Then once I have saved it, I will turn around and destroy it in the wink of an eye. Freedom will come at last. You're all in good hands... so now get all of your bands off their a$$e$ and get back out there and tour! Sure, life on the road now is one overridden with poverty and slimey hotels, but you will be rewarded in the end, and freed from the ties that hold you back. Thank You I AM THE AMERICANA(TM) (wow, this was even better than the State of the Union adddress, eh?)
Re: old people's music
kip l wrote: "this P2 bag, this Americana/Alt-Country/Roots-Rock thing that gets discussed here? It's Old People Music" Well, isn't the american population getting older? Aren't we (me, anyway -- on the tail end) baby boomers the majority? I'm banking on the hope that folks my age group -- now that the kids are starting to grow up - will start going out to clubs again and start spending money on cds again. If they don't -- well there's another phenomenon. The kids -- the 15 year olds and 12 years olds etc -- are listening to music that WE like to listen to! And they're listening to the Beach Boys and the Beatles just as much as Better than Ezra or Fugazi. Alternative country/country has a problem, though, and it spans the generations. People have built-in prejudices against it. Some folks at work bought the HTC cd and a few days later came around to say - gee i really like the record, and I don't like country. Well -- doo doo head -- it IS country! That's what country sounds like! THey've got it in their heads that it's all big beefy sound and look-alikes in big hats doing the Achy Breaky Heart or flying around a huge concert stage -- or warblers with big hair in turquoise polyester gowns (not that I'm dissing big hair not at all! see:TBouffants). So if I were betting on a crossover band to be our nirvana, i'd bet on one of the bands playing kind of punky thrashy country. Not that I particularly Like that brand of alt country - it's just that attention brought on whoever that is will expand to the rest of us, -- kind of a trickle down theory of music. dq
Americana guesswork
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...But really, do I care if Jay Farrar never sells 1,000,000 copies of anything? As long as he can make a living in this silly business, I suspect he'll be reasonably content and will continue making music. Kip And that's the key, innit...Making A Living. There has to be some sort of *success* to maintain a sustainable yield, or it just dries up. Hard for me to comment further when I can't even seem to get out of the goddamn starting gate...if I hear one more why they ain't signed is a mystery comment in a review I'm going to puke. Figure I'll worry about the rest when - or IF - the time comes... Buddy 0 for 0 Rockets * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Buddy Woodward - [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE GHOST ROCKETS - Maximum Rhythm Bluegrass http://www.hudsonet.com/~undertow/ghostrockets* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: old people's music
I've tried to get people my age (35) interested in alt.country. It is
hopeless. They may listen to the radio, but they do not buy CDs; they do
not have the initiative to dig out the good new bands. They are too busy
with careers, children, TeeVee, sports, lawn care. The people I know
stopped buying music once they graduated from college. A few, like my
brothers, held on for a while. Bought the first five REM albums, but lost
interest when Alternative Rock/grunge burnt itself out (seems to have been
about the time of Kurt Cobain's death). Mention country or alt.country and
they look at me like I just fell off the turnip truck. ("You like country
music? Well you deserve to die.")
Go to a Son Volt/Wilco concert and the majority of people there are male
college students, it seems to me anyway.
--
From: Diana Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: old people's music
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 7:56 PM
kip l wrote:
"this P2 bag, this Americana/Alt-Country/Roots-Rock thing that gets
discussed here? It's Old People Music"
Well, isn't the american population getting older? Aren't we (me, anyway
-- on the tail end) baby boomers the majority? I'm banking on the hope
that folks my age group -- now that the kids are starting to grow up -
will start going out to clubs again and start spending money on cds
again. If they don't -- well there's another phenomenon. The kids -- the
15 year olds and 12 years olds etc -- are listening to music that WE
like to listen to! And they're listening to the Beach Boys and the
Beatles just as much as Better than Ezra or Fugazi.
Alternative country/country has a problem, though, and it spans the
generations. People have built-in prejudices against it. Some folks at
work bought the HTC cd and a few days later came around to say - gee i
really like the record, and I don't like country. Well -- doo doo head
-- it IS country! That's what country sounds like! THey've got it in
their heads that it's all big beefy sound and look-alikes in big hats
doing the Achy Breaky Heart or flying around a huge concert stage -- or
warblers with big hair in turquoise polyester gowns (not that I'm
dissing big hair not at all! see:TBouffants).
So if I were betting on a crossover band to be our nirvana, i'd bet on
one of the bands playing kind of punky thrashy country. Not that I
particularly Like that brand of alt country - it's just that attention
brought on whoever that is will expand to the rest of us, -- kind of a
trickle down theory of music.
dq
Re: Johnny Rodrieguz
At 04:42 PM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote: he hasn't been convicted. yet. he has been indicted, and was supposed to show up for a court hearing yesterday. he's presently out on a $50,000 bond. Yes, that's right, my very big mistake. If anyone hears anything else, though, please pass it along. --david cantwell
Re: dang me!
I wrote Twenty years ago I had to go to Skip Groff's indie store in Rockville to hear the new punk 45s -- now all I have to do is dial of twangcast.com... jon weisberger wrote: ??? What the hell are you up to over there, Mike? You mean that wasnt THe Angry Young Turds I heard on twangcast.com yesterday? what have I been drinking? i meant -- twangast.com to hear the latest stuff -- another correction -- we didn't start the punk movement in the late 80s -- it was late 70s! boof!!
Americana discussion
Is it really necessary to toss around all the expletives in these discussions. Your passion is understandable but is f*%$ this and that really required to make a point. I would argue that if kids are a focus to turn on to americana you might not be the one to lead the way. Do we have anything better to do than postulate in perpetuity about the sales figures and format names of something that is a $14.99 retail investment. What's the deal with the infatuation with sales figures and getting heard. Truly, the big boys have succeeded in changing the way musical acts are developed and perceived by the all consumming public. I prefer to keep it simple and enjoy the music I find that I like regardless of format and sales figures. It's all relative and transitional at best because in 5-10 years these tunes we listen to now will be gathering dust in some used CD section of your local Media Play. However, possibly conferring a focus group with my mom and her friends will shed more light on all this. ?? Focusing more discussions on info and impressions about non mainstream "Americana" artists would certainly be helpful to me those who are looking on but perhaps not participating. The recent lengthy discussions about Garth, although interesting and amusing,might have been better spent on artists we haven't heard about but should. Just had the chance to hear Cisco at the music store I work at and distinctly Bakersfield influenced. I heard Buck Owens riffs and a general Bakersfield feel(if thats possible) and would recommend it to anyone who likes that aspect of "Americana" Also, if you haven't gotten around to picking up the VA-Blastered tribute CD by all means do so. Personally hadn't heard of several of the artists on the CD but the thrill of discovering new artists like The Grandsons,Last Train Home, Highway 13 is the reason why "Americana" is so interesting. Besides, if they become successful won't we just dismiss them as Garthing out? Oh, by the way you gotta give Candye Kane's Swango a listen. From lounge,jump blues, rockabilly, and doo wop this babe can sing it all. For excellent reviews and interesting articles be sure to check out Country Standard time on the web at http://hometown.aol.com/countryst/CST.html. I find the site to be a wealth of info and not sucky in the least. rik Hell, I been listening to thios Alt Country shit since I bought my first * Track tape. Back then it was called Southern Rock. Charlie Daniels, Marshall Tucker, and the Outlaws all played COUNTRY music, no matter how long there fucking hair was or how loud the Marshall Stack was cranked. Willie, Waylon, Hank Jr (before he sucked) Paycheck, etc. This music has been around forever. I don't give a fuck what the Gavin people say or if radio embraces it, I'll continue to listen to it. This Twang shit will be around forever, or at least until I'm dead and they pry my Ernest Tubb and Johnny Cash records out of my hands. This is a real exciting time in music. Anyone with a CDR can make a record. YOU DON'T NEED NASHVILLE ANYMORE. Of course, you'll have to bust your ass on the road to get known, but ANYONE CAN BE A STAR. Look at me, I started my own goddamned magazine, As a result, I've struck up conversations and friendships with people who were previously just idols. Tut Taylor, Charlie McCoy, Don Rigsby, Danny Barnes, Steve Young, Bill Kirchen, and more. Me, just alittle pissant with an obsolete 486 computer. The internet is a beautiful place, and not just because of all the naked pictures either. Anyone can start a Rolling Stone, a Creem, a No Depression. Build a website, make a radio station, showcase your music, and start beating on doors. You ain't going to get rich, but do you want to be a musician or a tycoon? If tycoon is your answer, then sell Amway or something. Music and Money do NOT have to be synonyms. Support your local musician, promote this music every chance you get. The only way this stuff is ever going to grow will be through Grass Roots (Grass Roots? my god, I sound like a fucking communist!) It won't ever be big with the public, But it will always be big with me. I'll always have room on the couch and an extra burger for a road musician. And I have a sheet of plywood and some cinder blocks so you always got a stage in my backyard. I don't care if they call it Americana, Alt Country, Twang, or WGWG Pussy Music. I like it know, I liked it then, I'll like it tomorrow. And if I get a chance, I'll try and turn you on to it as well. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Bluegrass Sees Lift
* Bluegrass sees lift in 3 albums -- Earle, Skaggs, McCoury By JIM BESSMAN Billboard * 01/18/99 BPI Entertainment News Wire story (c) Copyright 1999 BPI Communications, Inc. All Rights Reserved. NEW YORK (BPI) -- With the possible exception of Alison Krauss, the * "high lonesome" bluegrass genre has remained lonely indeed -- at least in the mainstream music marketplace. * But three high-profile bluegrass releases due this quarter are raising * hopes that the jazzy, old-time acoustic folk music, which is rooted in the Kentucky hills of the '30s, is on the verge of major visibility. The albums are Ricky Skaggs' "Ancient Tones," which Skaggs Family Records (SFR) releases Jan. 26; the Del McCoury Band's "The Family," out * Feb. 9 on Skaggs' new label, Ceili Music; and Steve Earle's "The Mountain," due Feb. 23 on his E-Squared Records. * Country rock renegade Earle -- a major McCoury fan -- used the McCoury Band as the backup on his new disc and will also tour with it, beginning with a Nashville showcase in March. * "To me, bluegrass is stronger than ever since I started in the late '50s," says McCoury, who played in the late pioneer Bill Monroe's Blue Grass Boys in the early '60s and is seen by many as the genre's current standard-bearer. "I've seen it go to a certain level and drop back and depend on those [core] fans for several years and then get new fans again, but it's grown so much in the last five years, with the IBMA [International * Bluegrass Music Assn.] and its award show established, radio play getting better than it was, and so many young people coming into the music as listeners and players," McCoury adds. * Skaggs cut his teeth in bluegrass with the legendary Ralph Stanley's Clinch Mountain Boys in the early '70s, before evolving his sound into major country success in the '80s. He seconds McCoury's assessment of * the state of bluegrass music. "I'm seeing a real change in the wind, and what's blowing is a more traditional, rootsy, gutsy sound," says Skaggs, whose 1997 album * "Bluegrass Rules!," his first full-fledged bluegrass set in 12 years, foreshadowed the current commotion. It also has just been nominated for * a Grammy Award as best bluegrass album. "Maybe it happens every 10 or 15 years, but when I first came to Nashville in '80 and '81, there was a real desire for that old sound to * come back into country music, and I think it's still there today," Skaggs adds. "People like Steve Wariner and Clint Black and Joe Diffie have come up to me and said, `Man, I love what you're doing, and it's exactly what you're supposed to be doing -- carrying on the tradition and sound and kicking it up a notch and taking it to the next millennium.' " * Peter Kuykendall, editor of Bluegrass Unlimited and a former chairman * of the IBMA board of directors, senses a bluegrass buzz from roots radio stations, combined with a "general disinterest in what's coming out of the country market." He also notes the amazing achievement of Stanley, whose "Clinch Mountain Country" album, featuring such mainstream country guests as Vince Gill and Patty Loveless, earned him Amazon.com's country artist of * the year honors and also is up for the best bluegrass album Grammy this year. "All those country acts being on Ralph's record shows where their * hearts are," says Kuykendall. "Also Lyle Lovett had [bluegrass stars] Mike Auldridge and Victor Krauss and Sam Bush out on the road with him a * lot last season, and Alison was on `The Prince Of Egypt' [country music soundtrack] and the national TV show [promoting the movie], so a lot of * the underground [bluegrass] stuff is starting to see the broader world." * Echoing Kuykendall is Doug Tuchman, for 27 years a key bluegrass radio DJ and concert promoter in the New York area. He says that the music is more popular now than at any time in his recollection, and he also points to the eagerness with which so many top country artists flocked to the Stanley project. "It reflects their willingness to show the public how much they * genuinely like bluegrass and gives the music credibility," says Tuchman. "But I also think that few modern country acts are really selling and that much of their new audience has little understanding of the music and is therefore transitory, whereas the traditional end of the music has maintained a solid core and built steadily upon it." Stanley's "Clinch Mountain Country," on Rebel Records, has become the * best-selling album in the small bluegrass label's 38-year history, according to marketing and public relations director Greg McGraw. * Bluegrass, he believes, "fills the need
Ray Price
Ray Price * Country music singer Ray Price. He was a close friend and protege of Hank Williams. Price's hits include "Talk to Your Heart," "Don't Let the Stars Get in Your Eyes," "I'll be There," "Crazy Arms," "For the Good Times," and more. In 1996 he was inducted into the * Country Music Hall of Fame. His latest album "Ray Price: The Other Woman." Terry Gross, Washington, DC * 01/19/99 Fresh Air FEATURE (c) Copyright Federal Document Clearing House. All Rights Reserved. TERRY GROSS, HOST: This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross. * When Ray Price was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1996 he was described by Kris Kristofferson as a living link from Hank * Williams to the country music of today. Price was Hank Williams' protege and roommate in the early '50s after Price moved to Nashville. Soon after, Price helped give several country performers their starts. Early in their careers; Willie Nelson, Roger Miller, Johnny Paycheck, and Johnny Bush played in Price's band The Cherokee Cowboys. Price was born in Cherokee County Texas in 1926. His country hits have included "Crazy Arms," "Release Me," "Heartaches by the Number," and "For the Good Times." In a "Washington Post" review of a concert last year, Price was praised for singing ballads with a quiet soulfulness that now sounds refreshingly old fashioned. You can hear that for yourself on his forthcoming CD. From it, this is "Rambling Rose." * (BEGIN AUDIO CLIP -- COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER RAY PRICE PERFORMING "RAMBLING ROSE") Rambling rose Rambling rose Why you ramble No one knows Wild and wind blown That's how you've grown Who can cling to A rambling rose Ramble on Ramble on When you're rambling Days are gone Who will love you With a love true When you're rambling Days are gone Rambling rose GROSS: That's Ray Price from his new CD. Ray Price, welcome to FRESH AIR. I'm really anxious to hear why you decided to record "Rambling Rose," and I'll preface my question by saying that, you know, I know Nat King Cole's recording. And although I love Nat Cole, that's one recording I never loved. Yet I really love the way you do the song. So, what did you hear in the song? * RAY PRICE, COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER: Well, it's just a great song really. It's kind of like a young girl that might be heading in the wrong direction, I think. And that's the way I look at it. I'm trying to make it sound as real as I can. GROSS: Mmm-hmm. Let's talk a little bit about your past. I know you grew up in Texas. Where did you grow up, and what was that community like? PRICE: Well, I was -- I came from northeast Texas, which was then Wood County and Upshire County. It's a rural area, and my family -- we're all farmers on both sides. And then my mother and dad moved to Dallas, and of course I went to Dallas with them. And I was raised in Dallas -- went to college in Arlington, Texas. But I'm back in east Texas now, living. So it's a pretty part of the state. GROSS: One of the people who helped you a lot early in your career was Hank Williams, the great country singer. How did you meet him? PRICE: Well, the music publisher in Nashville who got me a contract with Columbia Records, got me on one of Hank's radio shows. Every Friday night in Nashville they would -- if the stars were in town they would be on their own radio shows at WSM in Nashville. And I was a guest of the music publisher -- Troy Martin had gotten me a spot on his show. And we became real close friends, and he got me on the Grand Ol' Opry. And he and his wife were getting divorced... GROSS: ...Hank Williams got you on the Grand Ol' Opry. PRICE: Yes. GROSS: Uh-huh. PRICE: Then we lived together. We had a house there in Nashville, and I would stay -- I had the upstairs. He had the house for about a year and then of course he passed away. GROSS: You're saying that you started living together after he and his wife separated? PRICE: Oh, yeah. He had to have somebody. He had a problem with alcohol, and we were real close. I had to take care of him. Everything was fine. GROSS: What would you do for him? PRICE: Oh, just whatever needed to be done. I might go to the store and things like that. GROSS: Would you try to keep him from alcohol or keep him comfortable with it? PRICE: Yeah, you just don't -- oh, no, I wouldn't give him anything. No way. But, you know, like any of your friends if they got into it too far you would try to help them if
Whisperin' Bill
By JIM PATTERSON Associated Press Writer * 01/20/99 AP Online Entertainment Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - When Bill Anderson was asked to make his first album in eight years, he thought it was a joke. "I'm like, `Yeah, sure - where's the punch line?"' Anderson said. During a career that started 42 years ago and produced seven No. 1 hits, the 61-year-old Anderson learned how fast one can fall out of fashion. He'll never forget the day in the mid-1980s when he excitedly pitched a new song to a publisher. "I said, `I think I've got a smash hit for a girl!' Without even listening to it, he looked up at me and said, `Who do you want me to play it for, Kitty Wells?"' Anderson recalled. (Wells, born in 1919, had her heyday in the 1950s and 1960s.) "And everybody in the room laughed." Anderson said. "I carried that hurt with me for a while." While he continued performing, Anderson accepted the harsh * assessment: He was out-of-touch with the younger generation of country * music fans. "Looking back on it now I kind of tucked my tail between my legs and went and sat in the corner and pouted for about 10 years," he said during a recent backstage interview at the Grand Ole Opry House. So he had reason to be cautious last year when his friend, country singer Steve Wariner, approached him on behalf of Jim Ed Norman, who runs Warner Bros. Records in Nashville. Now he's clearly tickled to have a new album, "Fine Wine," to promote. The former Georgia sportswriter and disc jockey broke into the music business in 1957 when he recorded his song "City Lights" for a small Texas record company. Nashville star Ray Price heard the song, recorded it, and took it to No. 1. Anderson soon scored a recording deal with Decca. He got the nickname "Whisperin' Bill" for his relaxed, conversational vocal style, which was born of necessity - his airy tenor is short on range and power. But he was a strong songwriter and natural entertainer, writing smashes like "Still" and "Mama Sang a Song" for himself, as well as hits for Connie Smith, Lefty Frizzell, Roger Miller and others. By the time his string of hits ran out in 1982 with "Make Mine Night Time," he'd had 37 Top 10 records. "My last contract was up, and they (MCA, which had acquired Decca) * didn't renew it," Anderson said. "I could feel country music changing. * Country music in the early- and mid-1980s, if you remember, had a decidedly pop feel to it." He continued to perform his old hits on the Grand Ole Opry radio show and on tour. He hosted the game show "Fandango" on The Nashville Network from 1983 to '89 and now hosts "Backstage at the Opry" each Saturday night on TNN. Then Wariner took Anderson's 1960 hit "The Tips of My Fingers" to No. 3 in 1992. "The first time I heard that record on the radio my stomach did flip-flops," Anderson said. "I hadn't felt this in a long time, and I would look in Billboard and I'd see it going up the charts ... and all of a sudden it was 1963 again. "When I was doing the game show and all that stuff, I was enjoying all of that, but I didn't realize that that part of me was missing until I found it again." He sought songwriting collaborators and hooked up with Wariner and Skip Ewing. "Getting with Vince (Gill), I think, was probably the thing that put me over the hump," Anderson said. "He was the first one that we really had some success, with `Which Bridge to Cross (Which Bridge to Burn),"' a No. 4 hit for Gill in 1995. Gill helped him modernize his lyrics. "There's just certain things today that you don't write about that they wrote about back in the '60s. You don't write a song today that puts a woman down - women write songs and put men down," Anderson said with a chuckle. Wariner produced "Fine Wine," and country stars Hal Ketchum and Lee Ann Womack co-wrote songs with Anderson. The album is vintage Whisperin' Bill, especially on genteel love songs like "Good Love and a Bottle of Wine" and "Now That's Love." There's a redo of "The Tips of My Fingers" featuring the four other singers who've scored a hit with it: Wariner, Roy Clark, Eddy Arnold and Jeanie Shepard. Warner Bros. is marketing the album on television, over the Internet, and in magazine and direct mail advertising. There's not much hope of getting his new material played on the radio, Anderson concedes. "If they're not going to play George Jones and Merle Haggard, they're not going to play Bill Anderson," he said. "But I'm very active, I still work the
Gene Clark
'No Other' The late Gene Clark, co-founder of the Byrds, was a unique man and talent BRIAN BURNES * 01/17/99 The Kansas City Star (Copyright 1999) On Aug. 4, 1944, Kelly Clark and his wife, Jeanne, several months pregnant, attended a circus at Camp Bowie, Texas, where Kelly was stationed. At one point the audience stood to listen to ``Taps'' and honor those who had died in the invasion that had begun on the coast of France almost two months before. It was a bad moment for Jeanne. ``I just had the feeling that something had happened,'' she recalls. It wouldn't be until later that they'd learn how Kelly's brother, Harold Eugene, an Army paratrooper who had landed in France on or just after D-Day, had been injured, taken prisoner and finally died on Aug. 4. On Nov. 17, 1944, Jeanne Clark was back in her hometown of Tipton, Mo., near Jefferson City, when she gave birth to a boy. They named him Harold Eugene Clark. He grew up in Raytown and Bonner Springs. He left the Kansas City area in 1963 to pursue a career as a musician in California and achieved spectacular success. Yet after he died of a heart attack in May 1991 in his Los Angeles area home, he was buried back in Tipton, as he had wished, his full name carved on the headstone. There are also these words: ``No Other.'' That was the title of a record album he released in 1974. It's a record that, this past summer, a journalist with The Guardian in London declared ``one of the boldest, most brilliant and ... near perfect pieces of work in the history of pop music.'' According to authorities such as The Guardian's critic and an emerging chorus of others, Harold Eugene - known to the larger world as Gene Clark - changed the sound of modern music. Genre guru In 1965, as a co-founder of the Byrds, Gene Clark helped invent * folk-rock, recording Bob Dylan folk songs like ``Mr. Tambourine Man'' with guitars that plugged into amplifiers. On the Byrds' first album of the same name, Dylan wrote four of the songs. Clark wrote or co-wrote five. In 1966, Clark helped kickstart psychedelia as the principal author of the Byrds song ``Eight Miles High.'' In 1967, when he released his first solo album, ``Gene Clark With * the Gosdin Brothers,'' Clark helped create the genre of country rock. Music historians routinely trace all its permutations and performers since - including Gram Parsons, the Eagles and Dwight Yoakam - to Clark. ``Very few musicians had as much influence in creating new styles of music as Gene Clark,'' according to the All Music Guide, a popular music reference. Lately, the din of such admiration has been increasingly loud. Today, more than seven years after his largely unnoticed death, Gene Clark is enjoying a sudden, unimagined revival. He is huge in England. A new two-CD career retrospective, Flying High, appeared there late last year. This past summer a British music magazine, Mojo, featured Clark on its cover, with the banner headline of ``American Giants.'' In an art designer's idea of a rock Rushmore, Clark appeared on the Mojo cover with Mac ``Dr. John'' Rebennack, Randy Newman, James Brown and even The Artist, formerly known as Prince. Clark also lives on in cyberspace. At least two Web sites (www.GeneClark.com and ps.ket.kth.se/gc/) are devoted to him. The latter, maintained in Sweden, includes photographs of Clark's grave site in Tipton as well as photos of his last concerts in Los Angeles in April 1991. An adjacent bulletin board, a few clicks away, serves as a campfire for fans who debate Clark's apparent preference for using ``whom'' rather than ``who'' in his songs; the precise sequence of guitar chords on his 1969 ballad ``Polly''; and whether Clark is using the world ``pulsate'' instead of the phrase ``go safe'' in his 1971 song ``Spanish Guitar.'' Last year Scott Page, president of the Tipton Chamber of Commerce, who also maintains the organization's Web site, noticed an increasing number of e-mails requesting the precise location of Clark's grave site. Now Tipton is preparing to act as host for the first memorial Gene Clark concert, tentatively scheduled for August with performers as yet unannounced. 'My kid' All this, meanwhile, is a bit hard for the elder Clarks to grasp. ``He was just my kid,'' Jeanne says. The recent surge of recognition for their beloved Harold Eugene compels members of the Clark family to describe the boy and the man they knew best. To his parents and to the 12 brothers and sisters
Emmylou
Emmylou Can't Stay Away Ray Purvis * 01/15/99 The West Australian Copyright West Australian Newspapers Limited, all rights reserved. Between guesting on other people's albums and touring, the First Lady * of contemporary country music, Emmylou Harris, finally found the time to make her own record. She tells RAY PURVIS how she's always done her own thing. LOVE or hate the music industry, sometimes you just can't get away from it. Emmylou Harris's recent well-earned sabbatical turned out to be not only a busman's holiday-from-hell but one of the most intensively creative periods in her glittering career. "It ended up to be 12 months of full-on work," she says by telephone from her home in Nashville. "We'd just spent nearly two years on the road touring (her last album) Wrecking Ball and I figured it was time to slow down, take some time off and get some material together for the next record. But it just didn't work out that way." Within the space of the year - besides taking part in last year's US celebration of female artists called Lilith Fair - the prolific, angelic-voiced singer confirmed her commitment to the new (and not-so-new), breed of roots-based musicians by guesting on more than a half-a-dozen albums, as well as finishing some projects she was developing. This new body of work is now starting to filter through to the record shops. The list of CDs is startlingly impressive. There's the brilliant new McGarrigle Sisters album (The McGarrigle Hour) on which Emmylou is described in the liner notes as an "honourable McGarrigle". She sings backing vocals on Willie Nelson's atmospheric new Teatro and performs a guest vocal on her Nashville neighbour - 'we only live two doors away from each other" - Lucinda William's triumphant album Car Wheels On A Gravel Road. Add to that backing vocals for Nanci Griffiths (Other Voices, Too), Vic Chesnutt (The Salesman And Bernadette), Kate Campbell (Visions Of Plenty), Patti Griffin (Flaming Red) and duets with longtime friend and contemporary Linda Ronstadt (Tammy Wynette tribute album) and actor Robert Duvall (The Apostle soundtrack). Also awaiting release are a Gram Parson's tribute album (with contributions from Beck and Sheryl Crow), a duet CD with Linda Ronstadt as well as Volume 2 of the successful Trio album (released in 1987) with Ms Ronstadt and Dolly Parton that features a surprise appearance of now Zen Buddhist monk Leonard Cohen. Somewhere among this mind boggling array of projects, the workaholic, singer-songwriter found time to compile a new album - her first live CD * since the traditional, bluegrass-sounding Live At The Ryman (1992) recorded with her then band the Nash Ramblers. Called Spyboy, the new album features the same exceptional musicians - * Buddy Miller on guitars (seen in Perth early last year with Steve * Earle), Daryl Johnson on bass and Brady Blade on drums. Blade accompanied Emmylou on her 1997 Australian tour. "Well this album was the top priority for me," says the fine looking, naturally grey-haired 51-year-old singer about the sparse, exciting Spyboy CD. "It is both a souvenir of the Wrecking Ball tour as well as a chance to sing some of the songs from my past. I also very much wanted to record our version of Daniel's (Lanois) song The Maker that we'd been performing on the tour. These guys in the band (except for Miller) played on Wrecking Ball and that was a ground-breaking step for me, so I wanted to capture the live splendour of the shows." Harris says her desire to record with Lanois - best known in the pop world for his work with U2 (co-producing The Joshua Tree) and Peter Gabriel - dates back to hearing his production on Bob Dylan's Oh Mercy, The Neville Brother's Yellow Moon and Lanois' own 1989 debut Arcadie. "I put myself in his hands. I wanted him to take my voice and my vision and make me part of his landscapes, another colour in his palette, so to speak. I knew that no matter how far out he gets it's the melody and the song that's at the centre of it all." Her much acclaimed singing on Wrecking Ball (1996) - her first album away from Warner Bros and Asylum - won a Grammy for Best Contemporary Folk Album. It also revitalised a career that is full of crossover appeal and has spanned nearly 30 years and over 25 albums. * In some regards this watershed alternative country/pop album is reminiscent of her early 70s dark, transcendental music with her mentor Gram Parsons, the man about whom she later wrote the song Boulder To Birmingham. Born in Birmingham, Alabama, Emmylou Harris grew up in Washington, where she was a
Re: Americana guesswork
At 05:30 PM 1/20/1999 -0600, you wrote: Hm. OK, you performing types -- and I know there's a few on the list -- knowing what we know about being signed, the infamous Steve Albini thing and Jimmie Dale Gilmore's debt to Elektra and all, why does anyone still *want* to be signed? Bob Good question, Bob.though I'm not totally opposed to being signed to a major, I believe there are certain aspects that can't be overlooked. I think the biggest aspect, in my humble opinion is the marketing clout. The majors have the bucks and infrastructure to get to a larger audience by way of thier marketing bucks and influence on commercial radio (no I did not say payola, that's illegal g). Donuts work, though. For the artist, you wanna play, you wanna write, you want people to hear your work. You want to sell records so you can keep doing the other things. Commercial radio is demographics and money. Smaller labels have a very hard time busting through to the PD. Therefore, for the most part, the smaller labels get their biggest support from non com radio. Doesn't pay much in royalties. Tour, tour, tour On the other hand, I could not be happier with my little label. They give us complete control over our records..(I DON'T HEAR A SINGLE)...we don't owe them money big bucks when we are done..(WE NEED 250,000 IN SALES TO BREAK EVEN!)..and he works hard for us when we tour. Together we chart our destiny, and as the label grows, so does the band. Hopefully, together we can make a dent, and while we're at it make enough scratch to feed ourselves and buy strings. I've watched enough of my compadres here in AZ go the major route only to emerge from the other end bruised and banged up and still somewhat monetarily embarrassedSo joy of joys, I get to continue working my stinking day job through the whole production process knowing in the end that I didn't have to compromise my craft and don't owe a bunch of money for a record that may or may not get label support depending on the labels merger status. Also, a bunch of thirtysomething guys playing Americana(TM) probobly are not as marketable as a bunch of good looking twenty year olds playing alternarock. (My little reality check). Chris House Ignitors (brought to you by) Hayden's Ferry Records BTW, Stu...Where's my check? g
Mac Wiseman
* MAC WISEMAN TO STAR AT BLUEGRASS AND FIDDLE FEST * 01/15/99 Orlando Sentinel (Copyright 1999) *Mac Wiseman happens to be the man who put bluegrass music on the map, so it's easy to see why his humility can surprise anyone who reads his long list of accomplishments. And boy, is it long. In addition to singing, the 73-year-old has acted and picked guitars for more than 55 years. His 1971 album Lester N' Mac, recorded with duet partner Lester * Flatt, became the first bluegrass album to make Billboard magazine's * Top 100. In 1992, his album Grassroots to Bluegrass was nominated * for a Grammy. He is a founding member of the Country Music Association and current president of ROPE (Reunion of Professional Entertainers). He has also appeared on several TV shows, such as Grand Ole Opry Live, Crook Chase and Nashville Now. Wiseman, a Virginia native, looks forward to his Jan. 23 * performance in the 5th Annual Bluegrass and Fiddle Championship at Yeehaw Junction. "The majority of my concerts are made up of requests from the audience," he said. High up on the request list are "Jimmy Brown the Newsboy" and "Love Letters in the Sand." In the eyes of many of his fans, nobody can do it like Mac. His distinctive voice, often unsuccessfully imitated, has become his trademark. If it will ever give out seems to be the question of the * century for bluegrass fans. "I've been trying to retire for the past 10 years," Wiseman said. "The harder I try, the busier I get. As long as health permits, I'd still like to do more concerts." *Another headliner in the upcoming Bluegrass and Fiddle Championship is Gilbert Hancock. A native of Polk City, Hancock mastered the five-string banjo at the tender age of 7. He became a * member of the Bluegrass Little Bits Band that played throughout Georgia and Florida. Now, the 30-year-old has mastered his own style. "I take all of these different styles and put them together," he said. "I do a lot of joke telling and storytelling. It's kind of like down-home humor." After the festival in Yeehaw Junction, he plans to put together a * band, called the Bits of Bluegrass. Meanwhile, he's making * preparations to put on an admirable performance at the Bluegrass and Fiddle Championship. "I hope I can take them away from their problems a little while," he said. "I like to make people laugh. I just like to get up there and have a good time." *Wiseman's advice to any bluegrass musician who wants to make a mark is all about staying grounded. "It takes an awful lot of dedication. It's difficult for any new artist to get started," he said. "They can do it as long as they enjoy it, but don't quit your day job. It's a rewarding career, but not an easy one." *Despite the lack of airplay, bluegrass music, often considered the * roots of country music, has made a comeback the past few years. Its bluesy harmonies, rapid tempo and high-pitched vocal and instrumental sounds have been attracting a large crowd of younger, more contemporary followers. "I see that we're making inroads into the more metropolitan areas * and the bluegrass festivals get bigger and bigger every year," said Wiseman. "We're making progress, but I don't see us giving Garth Brooks any trouble anytime soon." *The 5th Annual Bluegrass and Fiddle Championship will be Thursday through Jan. 24 at Yeehaw Junction on the grounds of the historic Desert Inn. Show times are from 4 to 11:30 p.m. on Jan. 22, from noon to 11 p.m. on Jan. 23 and from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Jan. 24. Tickets cost from $9 to $28. Tickets for children ages 6 to 12 are $2 per day or $5 per weekend. Parking is $1. Mail any ticket request to Steve Dittman, 4210 Breezewood Drive, Zephyrhills, 33540. For more information, call (813) 783-7205.
Re: old people's music
Well, isn't the american population getting older? Aren't we (me, anyway -- on the tail end) baby boomers the majority? Actually, more kids have been born in the fifteen years between 1980-1995 then the fifteen years following the end of WWII. I've heard it referred to as the Second Boom. (BTW: I can hear the drooling from the big boys all the way here in Alabama. What a market!!!) As far as the boomers are concerned, though, there's still gotta be an assload of 'em. Only they could possibly be interested in "The 60's" mini-series (?) which is coming to NBC very shortly. Ugh!! Lance
Re: LEGAL-FINANCIAL ADVICE for Twangfest
Tom I would suggest that the band/musician get a EIN #. Essentially a SS# for your company(band). We get paid by check almost every show. 10-12 a month. Thats how we do it and it makes keeping the books straight easier. Dutch Crowd of One -- From: Tom Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LEGAL-FINANCIAL ADVICE for Twangfest Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 10:53 AM From the Twang Gang We need your advice on setting up our bank account so that none of the individual Twangfest committee members has the account on his or her social security number. I'd be interested in hearing how P2 musicians handle clubs which demand that a band representative provide a SS# before payment for a gig. (Years ago, one of my associates got audited and the IRS did not accept even his cancelled checks that other band members got paid for a particular gig. Since hearing this, we've "spread the pain around" - just in case . . . ) Tom Smith
Re: Americana guesswork
I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun. Two-stepping, too. Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a bitty roadhouse with a jukebox outside Pinetop, AZ, circa 1970. LR
Re: Americana guesswork
At 08:10 PM 1/20/1999 EST, you wrote: I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun. Two-stepping, too. Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a bitty roadhouse with a jukebox outside Pinetop, AZ, circa 1970. LR Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that place burned to the ground last year in the middle of a packed floor lining up for "achy breaky heart". Luckly, the only casualty was Billie Ray.
Re: Americana discussion
rik writes: Just had the chance to hear Cisco at the music store I work at and distinctly Bakersfield influenced. I heard Buck Owens riffs and a general Bakersfield feel(if thats possible) and would recommend it to anyone who likes that aspect of "Americana" I have to second the Cisco CD which I got today and have chosen tracks for TwangCast. As far as the rest of the post, Less Garth = good, however a bit of Garth goes a long way as a point of reference for the Nashville scene, more sharing of new artists = good, but I find the posts that are business related and in discussion of the genre as a business very interesting and informative and while I realize that not everyone on the list is in the biz, enough are to make it a vital part of the discussions herein. @$% - Don't get your shorts in a wedgie over that, it's just the way that hillbilly talks, coming from the Volunteer school of all things twang he ran into some mighty , shall we say, colorful characters along the way and well, if you add that to a nearly full career in the worlds biggest trash talk organization, well...you catch my driftg Mike Hays np: Countrypolitans NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
I GOT A DAY JOB!
Since you all lent your support when I was recently terminated by an idiot boss, I thought it only far that I share my good news with you. I will be PD and begin doing mornings Feb 1 on WCUL in Culpeper VA and while the format is a bit too HNC for me, it does pay about 30% better and I will have a bit of room to play with the music to bring some of the disaffected country listeners (read 35+) back into the fold. The best part is I get to go head to head with the jerk that fired me and since I built the jerk's station up, I'll take great pleasure in dismantling it 1 listener at a time. Thanks for all your support P2! np: Ricky Skaggs Ancient Tones, real damn good NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.netFor the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Geoff Muldaur
Geoff Muldaur will be performing live on A Prairie Home Companion this coming Saturday. Check your local etceteras. Mary Katherine
Re: To Zion
In a message dated 1/20/99 11:55:30 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, the loudest 2 piece I know (and had the joy to work with for a few years) was Cincinnati's own Croatan! Terrific decibel-defying two-piece in the semi-ND mode: Cash Money. Highly recommended. lr
RE: I GOT A DAY JOB!
-Original Message-From: Mike Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED]The best part is I get to go head to head with the jerk that fired me and since I built the jerk's station up, I'll take great pleasure in dismantling it 1 listener at a time. Thanks for all your support P2! Congrats on the new situation. Best of luck in the battle.
Re: Live at the Ryman: A visit to the Mother Church (long)
Howdy, Always late Bob Wray was talking a few days ago about his visit to the Ryman and mentioned Jim Ed Brown. Specifically, he said: Can someone tell me something about the Jim Ed Brown? Of all the old timers last night, he seemed to me the one who had weathered the best. His voice was good, smooth, and he carried himself with an undeniable dignity (unlike Bill Anderson and Porter, who seemed to me caricatures of themselves). I vaguely remember Brown on country radio when I was child but nothing concrete immediately comes to mind. Is he someone who's career is worth reviewing? Jim Ed has indeed weathered better than some of the other Opry regulars. I don't know how much having a regular performance schedule helps out in that cause, but Brown does have a Branson-type theater show over here in the Smokies. (Of course, there are also artists out there who perform just as regularly as Brown, but don't seem to be weathering well at all, so that's likely not the key ingredient...) For what it's worth, I mentioned in a post a month or so ago that Brown and partner Helen Cornelius were buying Dolly's music theater up in Pigeon Forge and would be starting a new show in the larger theater this spring. Rumor at this point says the deal has fallen through, so I don't know what the future holds for Jim Ed at this time. When I find out more, I'll happily invite Bob (and anyone else) to join me for a fun-filled day at Dollywood and a trip to the Jim Ed Brown show. Again, for what it's worth, RCA has a Jim Ed Brown disc in their "Essential" series. Curiously, for a collection of "essential" Jim Ed Brown songs, none of his duets with Helen Cornelius is included. Was a second disc released focusing purely on that subject? The aforementioned disc includes duets with his sister, a Louvin tune "I Take the Chance," "Pop-A-Top," "Send Me the Pillow That You Dream On," and others. Although lacking in Helen Cornelius duet material it's still a good disc to start with. I don't think he's released a new disc of material since maybe the Carter Administration. You may be able to find a greatest hit album of his duets. I don't know if any of that has been helpful at all. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Elvis Costello, My Aim Is True
Re: I GOT A DAY JOB!
Mike Hays wrote: Since you all lent your support when I was recently terminated by an idiot boss, I thought it only far that I share my good news with you. I will be PD and begin doing mornings Feb 1 on WCUL in Culpeper VA and while the format is a bit too HNC for me, it does pay about 30% better and I will have a bit of room to play with the music to bring some of the disaffected country listeners (read 35+) back into the fold. The best part is I get to go head to head with the jerk that fired me and since I built the jerk's station up, I'll take great pleasure in dismantling it 1 listener at a time. Thanks for all your support P2! Congratulations, Mike...and we'll take great pleasure in the continuing sage of dismember -- oh, mantle -- ment, Sarah W.
Clip: Radney Foster shelved
Howdy, Remember my early vote for the best album of 1999? Apparently my support is something akin to the kiss of death. Y'all better be glad I didn't include Lucinda in my top 40 list last year. g Foster's latest deserves to be seen and heard 01/15/99 MARY COLURSO The Birmingham News The album in my hand might be a collector's item some day. That depressing fact makes me want to shriek so they can hear it in Nebraska - or at least pout profusely and share my righteous anger. It's a pop/country CD, See What You Want to See, by Nashville's Radney Foster. Ten extraordinary tunes, all written and performed by Foster, with guest vocals from Abra Moore, Patrice Pike, Birmingham native Emmylou Harris and Darius Rucker of Hootie the Blowfish. Forget your feelings about Hootie for the moment, because Rucker's a big Radney fan. Obviously, so am I. Foster's a recent addition to my list of faves, earning his place in the pantheon in late September. I had never run into Foster's music before that, just knew he was a singer/ songwriter type performing here Oct. 14 with Graham Parker and Jeff Black. In a routine way, Foster's publicist had sent an advance copy of See What You Want to See by mail, hoping to drum up a little interest in the show. Well, the first few notes hit me exactly right - always a good sign I'll fall in love with the rest of an album. Sure enough, Foster had me hooked with "I've Got a Picture," "Angry Heart," "Folding Money," "I'm In," "The Lucky Ones" and other tracks from See What You Want to See, which the Arista Austin label was planning to release in the fall. When extra copies came, I immediately trumpeted Foster's virtues and presented them with a flourish to friends. Then I discovered that the record company, downsizing its staff, had decided to shelve Foster's project until February 1999. Gak! Foster, however, said not to fret; said he didn't want to rush his new CD into stores without the necessary marketing and promotion. "At first it's a jolt," he admitted during a phone interview. "I finished the music and it's ready to go. But I'd rather the record company have all their ducks in a line. Better this happens later and right than sooner and wrong." Hope Foster still feels that way, because Arista Austin isn't releasing See What You Want to See at all. Last week, a spokesman for the label said Foster's CD didn't have enough commercial potential. The first single from the CD, "I'm In," hadn't made even a small blip on the music-world radar, he said. Also, Foster wanted to "go in a different direction" than Arista Austin had in mind. According to the label guy, Foster was trying to find a new home for the album but nothing had been decided yet. The Arista Austin pressing? On a fast track to Collector's Item City. If justice prevails, some insightful exec at another label will scoop up Foster's offering and give him the exposure he deserves. And during a New Year's Eve concert at the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville, Foster mentioned he was optimistic about a spring release. I'll be tut-tutting over his situation until that happens - and holding tight to my copy of the stellar See What You Want to See. Despite repeated hearings and the passage of three or four months, its luster hasn't dimmed one bit. Perhaps that's because Foster probes deep into a well of emotions, singing about the pain of severed relationships and the blissful renewal of love. He's honest enough to admit the songs come directly from experience - a tumultuous four-year period when he got divorced, remarried and waged an unsuccessful battle to keep his first wife from moving their son to France. "These songs were born from trying to keep from going nuts," Foster said in October. "The gory details are mine to keep, but ...songwriting is a lot cheaper than therapy." With such origins, it's not surprising that See What You Want to See has resonance. Yet it's catchy, too, and contains enough memorable hooks to please even the most casual listener. Foster has a voice that can growl or wail, and the ability to create vivid images with clean, clear, dart-to-the-heart lyrics. I've been feverishly collecting his two previous solo albums, plus three he recorded as half of an alternative country duo called Foster Lloyd. They're tough to find, but not nearly as difficult as See What You Want to See. For now it remains floating in limbo, prime bootleg material - and the best CD you may never get to hear. -- Sad. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Elvis Costello, My Aim Is True
Re: I GOT A DAY JOB!
.heh heh. I love tales of justice.
Re: LEGAL-FINANCIAL ADVICE for Twangfest
Douglas Noss wrote: I would suggest that the band/musician get a EIN #. Essentially a SS# for your company(band). We get paid by check almost every show. 10-12 a month. Thats how we do it and it makes keeping the books straight easier. Thanks for the tip; I'll certainly look into this. As for getting paid by checks, though, the majority of clubs in this area (up to 600+ capacity) operate strictly with cash. Occasionally one will require a SS# even for payment in cash. Those range from a small country bar whose owner seems to have been spooked (by IRS or state tax dept.) to a considerably larger metropolitan venue, which seems to be keeping their books as absolutely straight as possible. Likewise, most of the musicians around here - from the worst to top notch players - tend to operate as "self-employed" independant contractors unless they're in a band that has sufficient overhead to warrant some kind of collective tax strategy, etc.. Those situations are increasingly rare, due to the lousy state of the live music biz hereabouts. The instance I mentioned earlier of my bandmate once being tormented by the IRS was rotten, since he's completely honest in his record-keeping and was being straight with them. I found it pretty weird - they're completely dependant on the honesty of your record keeping, yet his tangible proof that the gig money in question was divided (the cancelled checks) was not accepted. I pity anyone who tries to audit him (or any of the rest of us) again. That sucker will suffocate from receipts. Tom Smith
Re: Fwd: [merlehaggard] VIRUS
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html This public service web site is there so that you can check to see if these are real or just hoaxes. As you will see if you visit that site, Join the Crew is a hoax. John Title: CIAC Internet Hoaxes Internet Hoaxes Please Note: This web site is provided as a public service; however, CIAC does not have the resources to investigate and/or confirm every hoax currently circulating the Internet. CIAC appreciates input on questionable hoaxes, but we are not able to respond back to each e-mail message. You can help eliminate "junk mail" by educating the public on how to identify a new hoax warning, how to identify a valid warning and what to do if you think a message is a hoax. Hoaxes described on this page: PKZ300, Irina, Good Times, Good Times Spoof, Deeyenda, Ghost PENPAL GREETINGS!, Make Money Fast, NaughtyRobot, AOL4FREE, Join the Crew, Death Ray, AOL V4.0 Cookie, A.I.D.S. Hoax, Internet Cleanup Day, Bill Gates Hoax, WIN A HOLIDAY, AOL Riot June 1, 1998, E-mail or get a Virus, Bud Frogs Screen Saver, Disney Giveaway Hoax, Internet Access Charge Last modified: Monday, 11-Jan-99 15:42:40 PST You are the 1829147th visitor to this page. For information on Internet Chain Letters, check the New CIAC web page located at http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html The Internet is constantly being flooded with information about computer viruses and Trojans. However, interspersed among real virus notices are computer virus hoaxes. While these hoaxes do not infect systems, they are still time consuming and costly to handle. At CIAC, we find that we are spending much more time de-bunking hoaxes than handling real virus incidents. This page describes only a small number of the hoax warnings that are found on the Internet today. We will address some of the history of hoaxes on the Internet. Users are requested to please not spread unconfirmed warnings about viruses and Trojans. If you receive an unvalidated warning, don't pass it to all your friends, pass it to your computer security manager to validate first. Validated warnings from the incident response teams and antivirus vendors have valid return addresses and are usually PGP signed with the organization's key. PKZ300 Warning The PKZ300 Trojan is a real Trojan program, but the initial warning about it was released over a year ago. For information pertaining to PKZ300 Trojan reference CIAC Notes issue 95-10, at http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/notes/Notes10.shtml that was released in June of 1995. The warning itself, on the other hand, is gaining urban legend status. There has been an extremely limited number of sightings of this Trojan and those appeared over a year ago. Even though the Trojan warning is real, the repeated circulation of the warning is a nuisance. Individuals who need the current release of PKZIP should visit the PKWare web page at http://www.pkware.com. CIAC recommends that you DO NOT recirculate the warning about this particular Trojan. The following is the true warning about PKZ300 from the PKWare web site: !!! PKZIP Trojan Horse Version - (Originally Posted May 1995) !!! It has come to the attention of PKWARE that a fake version of PKZIP is being distributed as PKZ300B.ZIP or PKZ300.ZIP. It is not an offical version from PKWARE and it will attempt to erase your hard drive if run. It attempts to perform a deletion of all the directories of your current drive. If you have any information as to the creators of this trojan horse, PKWARE would be extremely interested to hear from you. If you have any other questions about this fake version, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Irina Virus Hoax The Irina virus warnings are a hoax. The former head of an electronic publishing company circulated the warning to create publicity for a new interactive book by the same name. The publishing company has apologized for the publicity stunt that backfired and panicked Internet users worldwide. The original warning claimed to be from a Professor Edward Pridedaux of the College of Slavic Studies in London; there is no such person or college. However, London's School of Slavonic and East European Studies has been inundated with calls. This poorly thought-out publicity stunt was highly irresponsible. For more information pertaining to this hoax, reference the UK Daily Telegraph at http://www.telegraph.co.uk. The original hoax message is as follows: FYI There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive an e-mail message with the subject line Irina, DONOT read the message. DELETE it immediately. Some miscreant is sending people files under the title Irina. If you receive this mail or file, do not download it. It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. (
SV at liveconcerts.com
I don't think I've seen this mentioned here, but happening as I type (10 PM East) There is a Son Volt concert being webcast at liveconcerts.com. My connection is still trying to make it through, but I figure that Better Than Ezra is still performing now... Chad Cosper
Re: Americana guesswork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun. Disco. Crappy music from records, and it looks dopey. Stuart who confesses to getting suckered by the dancin fool into line dance lessons. I had a hard enough time with counting to four with the two-step, let alone counting to 17 or 29 or however of those silly steps there are. I ended up out in the parking lot at the Knights of Columbus Hall smoking cigs with the other line-dance challenged guys.
Re: Americana guesswork
At 06:39 PM 1/20/99 -0700, you wrote: At 08:10 PM 1/20/1999 EST, LindaRay wrote: I would just like to say that I do not understand what everybody has against line dancing. I think it's a lot of fun. Two-stepping, too. Brings back fond memories of a sawdust covered floor in a bitty roadhouse with a jukebox outside Pinetop, AZ, circa 1970. LR Thank you, Linda! I'm not overly fond of line dancing myself, but I do enjoy some of them. And the people I know who do it are great people and fun to be with. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that place burned to the ground last year in the middle of a packed floor lining up for "achy breaky heart". Luckly, the only casualty was Billie Ray. Gong! (bad joke) g The Achy Breaky Heart line dance went out of fashion about 5 years ago. And contrary to popular "opinion," Billy Ray was not the originator of line dancing. (Ex: The Electric Slide has been around so long... it was probably being danced before Billy Ray Cyrus was even born.) g Lianne
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http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html This public service web site is there so that you can check to see if these are real or just hoaxes. As you will see if you visit that site, Join the Crew is a hoax. The only thing worse than hoax spam is people who send things to lists that take 20 minutes to load, yadda yadda. NEVER EVER send attachments, graphic etc to list. Grr. Sarah
Re: old people's music
At 05:56 PM 1/20/99 -0800, you wrote: kip l wrote: "this P2 bag, this Americana/Alt-Country/Roots-Rock thing that gets discussed here? It's Old People Music" Well, isn't the american population getting older? I am anyway. I hope to continue doing so as well Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Re: Americana guesswork
Geff King writes: You know, working on the fringes of the environmental industry as I do, the term 'sustainable development' comes up a lot. Makes me think of 'Americana' as perhaps a sustainable form of music - just enough popularity and acclaim to let artists make a living without having to buy the farm or sell the soul? Hey, there's a catchy new name for the genre: Sustainable Country. Okay, maybe not... But it's true that there are countless musicians out there in a number of genres (including our own) who are making apparently adequate livings from their music and getting their music heard by an apparently adequate number of people, and maybe, realistically, that's the best we can hope for for alt-country/Americana. For a variety of reasons, some of which have already been mentioned here, I don't think a massive breakthrough is likely for either the "Tupelo Rock" (what an atrocious term) side of alt-country or the more countryish side, the folks like Dale Watson, Sara Evans, Kelly Willis, et al. who are playing music that's "too country for country radio". (And FWIW, I don't see any reason that the latter is a vastly better candidate for such a breakthrough than the former, as John Riedie and others have suggested. The Americana stuff clearly has a better shot at a breakthrough on country radio, but the country-rock stuff has a better chance of breaking through on AAA and rock radio; regardless of the size of the teenage (or 18-24, in marketing terms) component of country audiences, which I think has always been considerable in many parts of the country, Son Volt and Whiskeytown are still more likely to appeal to the vastly larger 18-24 audience for rock radio, who are the folks who most often create the sort of Nirvana-sized breakthroughs that we're talking about here. But I digress.) But like Bob Soron, I don't think it's inconceivable, either, that some alt-country/Americana artist might achieve a big breakthrough that would catapult the whole genre to the mainstream, leading to big sales, millions of signings of acts with even the vaguest alt-country connection, and eventually, an alt-country fashion section at K-Mart (and from there, a rapid fall from grace for the genre, followed by snide references to it by late-night talk show hosts and a vague sense of embarrassment among those who jumped on the trend and then abandoned it--"geez, remember that alt-country phase we went through?"). What I can't conceive of is why anybody thinks this would be a good thing. Another Nirvana? Yeah, all that success worked out wonderfully for Kurt Cobain, didn't it? Not to mention for people like Mark Lanegan and others who had the megawatt spotlight of supertrendiness trained on them for a fleeting moment. And it's worth remembering that the grunge movement, such as it was, featured, to a great extent, bands who were either riding the coattails of the movement, and it came way too late for bands like the Replacements who'd laid the groundwork for bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. An Americana breakthrough would likely feature a lot of the same thing, and might well leave the real pioneers in the dirt. Don't get me wrong; I'm not one of those who hopes that my favorite bands remain cult faves, eking out meager livings and being dropped by label after label just so my friends and I can feel all avant-garde for knowing about them. I'd like all the musicians I admire to make tons of money, or at least to make as much money as they want to make. I just think that there are ways that this can happen without forcing them into flash-in-the-pan status. --Amy, really enjoying this thread, which is one of the more substantive ones we've had in a while
Re: Americana guesswork
At 07:03 PM 1/20/1999 -0800, you wrote: Gong! (bad joke) g The Achy Breaky Heart line dance went out of fashion about 5 years ago. And contrary to popular "opinion," Billy Ray was not the originator of line dancing. (Ex: The Electric Slide has been around so long... it was probably being danced before Billy Ray Cyrus was even born.) g Lianne Haven't been to Pinetop lately, have you? BRC and ABH are still in the top 10 there...'Course I always did figr dem Angile Flyte suits, cowboy boots and Stenson caps made quite the fashion statement. And they finally paved THE road.BG God, I love Arizona.
Re: Reported today: How one band survived trends
By the mid-1980s, band members were clearing less than $100 a week each and making their own albums on a shoestring. Players came and went. Twang content: For a 5-year stretch in the mid-90's the bass player in the Numbers Band was my good friend Bill Watson, currently part of that swingin' ensemble Hillbilly Idol. Bob Kidney also toured with the Golden Palominos, when Syd Straw was the lead singer. Allen *** Boot Heel Drag can be heard on CJSW 90.9 FM , Calgary,AB Tuesdays at 6:30 PM MST and on realaudio at www.cjsw.com.
Re: I GOT A DAY JOB!
Congratulations on your job!!! Have to share my good news. Too soon to celebrate yet but I got an interview for the job I applied for in Denver!!! I think I asked earlier if there's anyone on this list out there? I realize the music scene isn't the same as Athens but maybe I'm growing up a bit g I did check Pollstar to see what kinds of bands come through and I'm real excited about all the bluegrass festivals. Wish me luck!! And maybe we can do something about the music scene if I get out there. I'll definitely have crash pad room for folks traveling through. Deb Sommer
Re: Americana discussion
Rik makes a couple of points that really bug me: It's all relative and transitional at best because in 5-10 years these tunes we listen to now will be gathering dust in some used CD section of your local Media Play. Please tell me why this is a good thing. Rik, have you listened to country radio lately? Do you know the dreck that the "big boys" are foisting on the public? Can you honestly say that "these tunes we listen to now" aren't more interesting and just plain better than that fluff? Why shouldn't more people hear them, then? Do we have anything better to do than postulate in perpetuity about the sales figures and format names of something that is a $14.99 retail investment. What's the deal with the infatuation with sales figures and getting heard. I never said anything about sales figures, at least directly. I see no reason to NOT want this music to be heard by as many people as possible. If you agree the music is good, why shouldn't you be glad to turn other people on to it? and 15 bucks, to some people, is a lot for maybe 40 minutes of what's supposed to be entertainment. Remember there's always the delete key. g Jim, smilin'
Blastered comp (was: Re: Americana discussion)
Rik wrote: Also, if you haven't gotten around to picking up the VA-Blastered tribute CD by all means do so. Personally hadn't heard of several of the artists on the CD but the thrill of discovering new artists like The Grandsons,Last Train Home, Highway 13 is the reason why "Americana" is so interesting. Has this been discussed? Was I sleeping? Using my "delete" finger liberally that week? Can I hear some details on this? (artists/label/etc.) and finally, is the "Highway 13" on that disc the *same* Highway 13 from Pittsburgh? Inquiring minds want to know...(ok, that's a lie...only *I* want to know) Paul np: Mike Watt - Ball Hog or Tug Boat?
Re: I AM THE AMERICANA(TM)
re: I am the AMERICANA(TM) ladies and gents.I'll vouch for him. The great babooski speaks! Kevin from Belleville
Re: Americana discussion
At 03:50 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote: Is it really necessary to toss around all the expletives in these discussions. No, it's not really necessary, but we all have our little faults. Yates is a folkie, Cantwell is a midget, Weisberger loves Garth, and I cuss. But I guess I did go overboard this time 2 shits, 3 fucks, and a goddamned. If I was Catholic, I guess I would be gargeling with Holy Water while simultainously saying Hail Mary's. Thank God I'm Baptist, Backsliding Baptist at that. The Ass and Pussy don't really count as being obscene because as the Nashville Princess's have stated numerous times, All of us WGWG (White Guy's With Glasses) are pussies. Your passion is understandable but is f*%$ this and that really required to make a point. No, not at all. But when I'm really tired and I post, The words just come out without any conscious thought. I just type the words in my head without running them thru anytype of "Is this appropriate?" "Is this going to offend" types of filters. I would argue that if kids are a focus to turn on to americana you might not be the one to lead the way. Hate to tell all of y'all this, but if y'all are counting on me or my words to be the Alt Country Poster Boy, you people are in serious need of a CAT scan. I don;t have the desire to be the representative of anything. As for the kids fuck em. When they can learn to pull their goddamned pants up so they ain't hanging off their asses, and when they learn that a thumper stereo destroys good music (ever try to listen to Bill Monroe or the Stanleys through a Thumper Stereo), then maybe I'll start to believe that they have enough common sense to be worth saving. The whole tied died, body pierced, weird hair, goofy pants hanging down off their ass bunch of them. BTW, you mention Jeffrey Renz Country Standard Time magazine and the fact that it does not suck. I have to agree with you. His magazine does not suck, although IN MY OPINION ONLY, he covers too much music that DOES suck. (BTW, He thinks that *I* suck, he's probably right) Other magazines that don't suck terribly bad that you might be interested in would be Peter Blackstocks No Depression. ND doesn't suck although I've accused Peter of sucking a time or two. Just when I get up a full head of steam, he does something nice like drop me an e-mail. THAT'S WHY HE SUCKS. HE AIN'T EVEN DECENT ENOUGH TO BE AN ASSHOLE! What kind of editor is that? Those Miles of Music guys have them up a webzine that doesn't suck either. In fact, the only sucking that goes on there is Jeff Weiss sucking the money out of your pockets. Besides, I secretly have a crush on the entire Weiss family, Jeff, Neal, and Corrie. If I asked them to adopt, would I have to convert? Are BLT's Kosher? If I got a rabbi drunk and got him to bless my pig, then could I slip by? Basically, on one hand, I'm sorry that you felt offended. That wasn't my intention. I never try to offend. Annoy, yes. Offend, no. But the problem is this. If that post offended you, you would probably be better off deleting all my posts unread because I know, deep down in my heart, that I will offend you again. I can't help it, It's a talent. Getting ready to take a shovel to the wife if she don't quit yelling at me. I bet Satan looks just like your ex-wife. That's what Hell is, being re-united to spend eternity with a nagging bitch. ass Pussy Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Re: Blastered comp (was: Re: Americana discussion)
At 11:20 PM 1/20/99 EST, you wrote: Rik wrote: Also, if you haven't gotten around to picking up the VA-Blastered tribute CD by all means do so. Personally hadn't heard of several of the artists on the CD but the thrill of discovering new artists like The Grandsons,Last Train Home, Highway 13 is the reason why "Americana" is so interesting. Has this been discussed? Was I sleeping? Using my "delete" finger liberally that week? Can I hear some details on this? (artists/label/etc.) Sure, there's a f*cking review on the f*cking Twangzine if you people would ever bother to read the f*cking thing. g Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
