Re: [users] Hijacked thread. Was: Standalone Help Files
And in doing so you hijacked this thread. To ask a new question start a new thread. DO NOT respond to a previous post and just change the subject line. What's the diff? Who's the moderator? What does s/he have to say? I see this as such a petty argument that I can hardly believe it's happening. Many people use mail readers that provide topic threading based on part of the message header. When a thread/message is "hijacked", that threading is broken, and there ends up being two conversations in a single thread. The new message is lost in the old message thread by those that use threaded email readers (eg Thunderbird)... and the new question that was raised is often totally lost in the flurry of "hey, you broke the thread" messages. As well, the original question is often also lost in the flurry... so both parties loose out. Just make a note of it that in all mailing lists, as a matter of etiquette, you should always start a completely new message with its own threading for a new topic. That's all people here are really asking for. To do so is actually not too hard even if you don't remember the list address... you can open an existing message, and in most mail readers, you should be able to Right-click on the To: field and select Compose Mail To or something similar. This will start a new message... no need to reply and change topic. I hope this helps clarify things a little here :-) C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Base Users Guide ?
Anyone can contribute - you don't need to be an expert to help out. Even if the doc is something you may know nothing about, proof reading is an essential part of the document development process. When someone spends a lot of time looking at one document, they tend to become "word blind" and will miss the obvious errors. A fresh pair of eyes looking over the document can be a huge help. C. I guess I'd like to volunteer. I'm not a programmer, but I'm comfortable with a computer. I currently have VISTA on a Dell machine. Something like proof reading is my speed these days. Frank The easiest place to start is here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation Jean has been busy posting the User Guides for 3.x. They are in a "Published" status, but still could really use fresh eyes looking them over. Since the docs are all available on the Wiki, it is quite easy to log in, and edit a page. You can do this on your own schedule, with no deadlines or other pressure. Even a single edit to correct a spelling error is welcome. Things to look for: - spelling - grammar - consistency (looking even for those little things like the consistent use of full stops on bullet lists) - technical content (use your own experience and knowledge to improve what's already written) - missing content You can do one of these things, or even all of them... whatever you're comfortable with. If you see something that requires a major rewrite, or missing info, you can either make a note of it on the Wiki Discussion page, or raise it on the d...@documentation.openoffice.org mailing list. If you are comfortable with your knowledge on a topic, you can write a draft (a HowTo, a FAQ, a Guide etc.). You can do it right on the Wiki if you like. The rest of the Documentation team can help out with shaping it into a complete document. If you would prefer to write offline (outside of the Wiki) you can use the tools and guidelines available on the OOoAuthors website at: http://oooauthors.org We are also always looking for fresh ideas... things like screencasts, new ideas for ways to organize and present things on the Wiki, or just about anything else that comes to mind. Feel free to speak up, add your thoughts and ideas. The most important thing is to do what you're comfortable with. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Write: How to manage Sections?
On 08/26/09 17:56, Alex Zachopoulos wrote: Thx! But have you entered any text and then put that text in Sections, so that all text in the document belongs to a Section?-A There has been some discussion about this over on the Documentation mailing list. You can read the comments here: http://documentation.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=dev&by=thread&from=2270882 There is some additional information there that you might find useful in understanding - it's in-line with Joe Smith's reply about understanding how Sections work in OpenOffice.org, and how they are different from Sections in MS Word. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Cannot open document
On 10/06/09 13:28, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: I have a document that I work on every day, but since this morning I cannot open it. It's a complex document (styles, tables, graphics) but not particularly big (770 kb). I'm using Openoffice 3.1 on Linux (Debian). (This is not the official Debian release but was installed directly from the Openoffice site, as the Debian releases are a considerable distance behind.) When I launch the document it seems to open properly and displays the first page. There is no cursor in it, however, no matter how long I wait, nor can I place one with the mouse pointer. The scroll bars likewise are frozen. All I can do is force quit. Other Openoffice documents open and save properly. Are you running on a dual core CPU? This sounds a little like the problem I reported recently (on Novell/openSUSE OOo, but has since been confirmed on the official OOo as well): http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105621 If... if this is the same as what you're experiencing (best indication is one of the CPU cores will be running at 100% until you kill soffice.bin), I've found that opening the affected document in another OOo install... for example, in Linux/OOo or Windows/OOo installed in VirtualBox (configured as single core virtual CPU), doing your edits there (and saving), you can move back to your main/host OS and work with the doc again. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Registration wizard and Windows v Linux
On 10/07/09 16:18, Clayton wrote: There is a disable extension at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Deactivating_Registration_Wizard but that no longer works with 3.1.1 - If you know who wrote it then maybe they could be persuaded to update it :-) I'll take a look at it and update it for 3.1.1. Carsten has updated the Admin Guide on the Wiki with a new OXT for OOo 3.1.1. Give it a try and see if if solves your Reg Wizard probs :-) C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Perfectspot
On 11/23/09 13:16, Eustace wrote: I am considering using Perfectspot (http://libwpg.sourceforge.net/perfectspot.htm) to try to convert old wpg files to odg. Has anybody tried it? I am at a loss even to install it. It downloads a zip file that contains a bin folder with 2 dll files and I don't know what to do with them. I've never used this software, but... I took a look at the SourceForge link you provided, and I'd say if all you're seeing is a couple of DLL files, you've downloaded the wrong zip file (ie you've downloaded the development library, not an application that uses the library). (I can't actually find anything called Perfectspot in the list of files) The docs on how to use the command line wpg2odg converter are found here: http://libwpg.sourceforge.net/wpg2odg.htm and following the download links leads you to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwpg/files/ In that list, the one at the bottom is likely what you're looking for, labeled "wpg2odg". Click that link and it'll give you a new link labeled "wpg2odg-0.1.0". Click the new link. Then click and download the file "wpg2odg-0.1.0.zip". I can't vouch for how well the converter software works, but that should at least give you an executable, and the docs required so you can test it out for yourself. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Upgrading to OOo 3.1.1.4 on OpenSuse 11.1
On 12/01/09 01:08, John Jason Jordan wrote: I have a fresh install of OpenSuse 11.1, which automatically installed OOo 3.0.0.9-2.7. (I cannot run OpenSuse 11.2 due to a conflict in Gnome.) I want to upgrade to OOo 3.1.1.4. In Manage Software OOo is shown as upgradable, but it offers the default package as OOo 3.0.0.9-2.81. Using the dropdown button I see that 3.1.1.4 is available. I selected it and clicked on the Apply button. This got me an error message: OpenOffice.org Writer 3.1.1.4-1.1.x86_64 requires libsvxcorelx.so (64-bit), but this requirement cannot be met. I canceled the upgrade. I still want 3.1.1.4, but I decided I'd ask here before I break something. The file that YaST cannot find is part of OpenOffice_org-libs-core. Check your repository setup. You should have the OpenOffice.org:STABLE/openSUSE_11.1 repo available/configured in YaST: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_11.1/ C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] page styles
How do I make a different footer for each page using paragraph styles? Footers are a different matter, and as far as I know that is linked to the page style. Have you tried the Writers Guide? There is a chapter in it on using styles. If you do not have a copy you can get one at http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3 . You can get the individual chapters or the whole book. You can also get the same OOo User Guides from the OOoWiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation The Writer User Guide is here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide and I believe the section you're looking for is here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Working_with_page_styles C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead Sun Microsystems Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Capture statistical properties
On 12/07/09 14:01, James Wilde wrote: After that orgy of reminiscence about spacing round full stops, I'm afraid this question may have been missed, so I'll post it again. Hope I haven't broken a rule by doing that. James On Dec 4, 2009, at 22:33 , James Wilde wrote: Is there any relatively simple way to capture the number of words in a file for entry into a spreadsheet? I am running OOo v3.1.1, and have a master document containing several subdocuments. It would be nice to be able to update a statistics spreadsheet, preferably dynamically, but possibly as a result of an update process, with the latest value for the number of words. It's not just the total number of words that is important, but it would be nice to see how long each chapter (subdocument) is to maintain some semblance of constancy. TIA James I think it partially depends on what you have in mind, and what stats you need. The most basic word count can be found under: File > Properties > Statistics There are also several other solutions such as this one: http://yawar.blogspot.com/2006/05/live-word-count-script-for.html or this one: http://ooo-tools.sourceforge.net/ These are the word count tools I know of (there are a few others)... I don't know of more complex word count tools that will work on the levels you're thinking of. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead Sun Microsystems, Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] STRANDED PLEASE
On 01/26/10 16:14, John Meyer wrote: Okay, vote: spam or misguided use of the autofill function in the to field? On 1/26/2010 7:57 AM, michael considine wrote: Hello, How are you doing? I hope this email reaches you on time, i had a trip to the United Kingdom, but unfortunately for me i lost my wallet at the airport, i only got to realize this on my way to the hotel where i lodged and this has caused me a thing It's a well known phishing email... usually sent from compromised or forged yahoo.com email accounts. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead Sun Microsystems, Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Change default e-mail program for OOo.?
On 03/02/10 09:54, James Elliott wrote: As you know you can send documents to someone else as and e-mailed PDF, specifically: File > Send > e-mail as PDF I have changed my e-mail client from being Outlook Express to Mozilla Thunderbird, and I have changed the default e-mail client to Thunderbird (my browser is Firefox). Trouble is, whenever I go to File > Send > e-mail as PDF, it still brings up Outlook Express. How do I get OOo to use Thunderbird instead of OE, other than deleting OE which I do not want to do for good business reasons - I just do not want to use it for sending e-mails. That's a good question. There is some info documented here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Accessing_Email_Clients Specifically the last section on that Wiki page is about setting up the email client on Windows. OOo uses the default client in Windows... whatever that is set to. Have you followed those basic steps? (including the ones in the linked Mozillazine article?) If there's an error in the Wiki info, or it could be improved, let me know. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] download on Nokia N900
On 05/06/10 15:06, JJ wrote: HI Need advise on whether I can download openoffice on Nokia HP Model N900? What are procedures I need to know? A quick Google search came up with this: http://temporaryland.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/openoffice-org-and-the-gimp-on-the-n900/ So it appears possible, but not really practical at this point given the small screen real estate on the N900. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OpenOffice.nl v OpenOffice.org [Was: View HTML source]
On 07/01/10 15:11, John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2010.07.01 03:47 -0500, Michael Adams wrote: I recommend text editors that do source-sensitive highlighting ... "Bluefish" (Made by OpenOffice - NOT OpenOffice.org). Wow - that's confusing: I was not aware of OpenOffice.nl (as opposed to OpenOffice.org). As the former has been in existence since 1999, while the application suite was forked from StarOffice in 2000, is that the reason for saying "OpenOffice.org" (which of course sounds like a website, not an application)? John The 3rd paragraph on the Wikipedia entry for OOo has some info on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org You can also take a look here: http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/summary.html under the heading Trademark. A quick Google of "openoffice trademark" will give you many additional results back on that topic. C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org OpenOffice.org Documentation Project co-lead - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Marketing OOo
Obviously the OOo marketing folks that have their gala meetings in Beijing and Paris prepare CD's etc for handouts. If they can do that, then I suspect that they can assist the education project and/or someone like JJJ with his small request. (JJJ I'd send marketing an email and ask - certainly can't hurt). That is a good idea. I'll do so as soon as I figure out their e-mail address. The first place to look is the Marketing project at http://marketing.openoffice.org/ The community there has a mailing list... might be worth asking them there. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] MS's Open Format and Sun's ODF filters
On 12/18/08 13:24, Web Kracked wrote: Also, it has been a while since I looked at and downloaded Sun's ODF "filters" for MS Office. How well does it really work and where can I send the hard nose MS users to get it. I know it would be easier and better if they just used OOo, but there are people. . . . I found when I first came across Sun's ODF filter, it was better to just open/save the MS .doc file in OOo then having MS Word use the filter system. How is the filter now, and where is it to be found (easily)? The Sun ODF Plugin for MS Office is here: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ C. -- Clayton Cornell ccorn...@openoffice.org StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Russian manual
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: http://www.oooauthors.org/ I am not aware of external documentation in Russian. See the authors site to see if they have russian translations. Inna Scherbak wrote: Hi! Could you send us manual in Russian language to use your program? Do you have it? You can try here as well: http://ru.openoffice.org/ C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] problem
I clicked on an window option for open office by accident which basically turns my entire screen gray everytime i start open office. I can only see the open office document and nothing else on the screen. how do i fix this?? Hi Summer. It sounds to me like you have the Full Screen view turned on. Try pressing Ctrl + Shift+ J ... or... click the button that says Full Screen (likely in a floating toolbar or on the top of the screen). Clayton -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OO 1.1.3. No-help. Feeling frustrated. Help, please!
Open Office 1.1.3 on Debian "Sarge" GNU/Linux, Gnome 2.8.3. I realize that the official motto of Debian is "We will release no code before its time". This is why I _never_ recommend Debian to anyone. Gnome 2.8 and OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 were released in 2004. In the Linux world, that is Precambrian. Debian has a newer release (Etch) from April this year, but it's still full of old versions of pretty much everything. I still don't know where this help file should be installed. Typically, the help files are located under the help directory in whatever directory OpenOffice is installed in. totally stumped, I just feel helpless, frustrated and angry - and pretty negative about OpenOffice, even though the problem's more likely to be in Debian's installation stuff rather than OO itself. I think you've nailed it there. It's more likely to be a Debian issue and nothing at all to do with OpenOffice itself. I think you're best off going with Jonathon's suggestion and installing an updated version of OpenOffice.org... at least 1.1.5 if you have to stay with the version 1 series, but better to go with 2.2.1 if you can. Clayton -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OO 1.1.3. No-help. Feeling frustrated. Help, please!
Upgrading software really isn't fun. Downloading it, unpacking it,
./configure; make; make install, yes, that can take less than an hour.
Or sometimes it hits incompatibility bugs ("can't find iplv6.h"). Then
the fun really starts.
Wow... is Sarge like that? Current Linux distributions are almost
exclusively upgraded via the applications in the software repositories.
I can't remember the last time I had to do a ./configure in the
upgrade on a regular application. It is simply fire up the software
management tool (Synaptic, Adept, Smart etc. depending on Ubuntu, SUSE
etc.) and click a few times.. wait for it to download and install.. done.
This is even how I update my OpenOffice.org install.
By the way, the new version of OpenOffice can read your 1.1.3 version
files just fine. It can even save back to that version if you want.
So I tend not to upgrade software as such. Unless something is really
badly broken, I don't try to fix it. Being without the help file counts
as broken here.
I don't blame you for not wanting to upgrade with all the pain that
you've described with your Debian install.
The new stuff is nice... very nice... and so very easy to maintain in
current Linux distributions (I cannot speak for Debian Etch since I
refuse to use Debian because if it's insistence on using old
applications.. maybe Etch has joined the rest of the Linux world and
moved to Repository based software management?).
C.
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Re: [users] problem
thanks but that's not the problem. If I do as you tell me, all it does is change the size of the window but the background remains the same. The problem is I am unable to return to my main desktop screen no matter what I press. I am only able to see the document in front of me plus a weird grey screen behind it with light black zig zag lines. Make sure you send your replies to the mailing list and not just to me directly. OK, so it's probably not Full Screen being toggled. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Do you remember what you were doing when it first started happening? Next step is to tell everyone what operating system you are using (Windows XP, Ubuntu 7.10, openSUSE 10.2, OSX 10.4 etc), and what version of OpenOffice.org you are using. If you can, take a screen capture and upload it to one of the many free image hosting websites (for example http://tinypic.com/ ) and provide a link. That way people can see what it is you're describing. Are any other applications (other than OpenOffice) you use giving trouble? or other odd behaviour? C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] open office question
Could you please tell me if the open office downloads (i.e. open office writer) are compatible with Windows Vista? (Will they run properly on this operating system?) Thank you for your time, -Shirley Hi Shirley. If you look at the System requirements for Openoffice.org (linked from the download page) you will see that OpenOffice.org is compatible with Vista. http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Dawn Septeowski wrote: Can I load OpenOffice on my classroom computers at school? Is this legal? Dawn Septeowski Hi Dawn. Yes it is perfectly legal for you to download and install OpenOffice.org on as many computers as you like. There are no restrictions on using OpenOffice on your home computers, your work computers or the school computers. The license for OpenOffice.org is here: http://www.openoffice.org/license.html C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Also, it seems that you can't () save an OO drawing in any commonly accepted format like jpg, tiff, bmp etc. Please someone tell me I'm wrong ... You're wrong :-) File > Export, and you can select from several standard graphics formats including JPG, PNG etc. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
I just downloaded OpenOffice.org 2.2. I purchased this to replace my Microsoft Works and have a ton of .wps files I want to transfer. Not computer literate and as I check the list of files I do not find Microsoft Works . Wps files.! Any help appreciated! OpenOffice.org is a free download from http://www.openoffice.org. There are a couple of options available to you with the current version. As mentioned in another reply, you can start up MS Works and save all your wks files as rtf and import the rtf into Writer. Another option is given in detail on page 462 of the User Guide. http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/OOo2.x/user_guide2_draft.pdf and briefly mentioned in the user FAQ: http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s05.html#id2811800 An import filter for Works files has been developed, and is in the process of being integrated into a coming version of OpenOffice.org. I can't guess which release will have it, but a fix is coming: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8938 C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] broken link
OGDENOUTREACH wrote: Hi, I noticed that the link ftp://borft.student.utwente.nl/torrents/ooo_114_20041221_en_allplatforms.iso.torrent is broken. Thanks, The link you are trying to use is pointing to a very very old version of OpenOffice.org. Unless you specifically need this antique version of OpenOffice.org, I'd suggest you grab a newer version... either direct from OpenOffice.org, or if you still want to download an ISO from the University of Twente (in the Netherlands), go up one level to ftp://borft.student.utwente.nl/torrents/ and pick a newer ISO. I see one there for all platforms that is version 2.0.2 (note this is also an old version of OpenOffice.org). C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Organizational Charts
Have a look over here: http://user-faq.openoffice.org/new-faq/Impress/Formatting/006.html In the future remember, Google is your friend. I have to admit that I don't understand that FAQ... - 'From the Explorer ...' ? Which explorer? - 'View -> Beamer' ? Not present in my View-menu ... - Gallery -> Flow charts. ? Not present in my Galery ... (OOo 2.2.1) So I'm a little puzzled. Explorer... I assume this means the Templates and Documents dialog (window). The information on the website link (above) is old... when we link to the FAQ, we should be linking to the Wiki version - the web content is being reviewed... updated, moved to the Wiki (most falls into this category), or archived. The FAQ on the Wiki is the leading version: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Impress Unfortunately, the Wiki currently has the old content from the website... the advantage is.. someone who knows how to create an OrgChart with OpenOffice can easily update the Wiki FAQ page with the correct information. :-) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] EPS on screen
Rolf Schumacher wrote: OOs Writer: I am able to include the companies EPS logo. I am also able to print it with Adobe Acrobat and on any (color) printer. What I am missing is to see the graphic on screen (Windows XP). Is this a fault in my installation or do I have to do something to get EPS shown on screen? It has a lot to do with how the EPS was created. If the EPS was created without a preview image (an embedded image), then you will not see anything, but the image will print fine. If whoever created the EPS can reexport it with the preview image "turned on" then when you import it into Writer, you should (in theory) see the image. This is the same behavior regardless of what application you are using (it's not just a OOo Writer thing, it's the same in MS Word etc.). C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] EPS on screen
Harold Fuchs wrote: [snip] Please excuse my ignorance but what is EPS in this context? Encapsulated PostScript. It's an image format that is generally used when image quality on printed output is important/critical (for example with Logos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encapsulated_PostScript has some information about this image format and a section on the Preview concept. C -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] EPS on screen
Rolf Schumacher wrote: The next question: do you know of a piece of software that converts a EPS without preview to one with preview, keeping the print quality of EPS? The Gimp can do it. When you save an image as EPS, the Save (or Save-As) dialog has a checkbox for Preview. I've tested and used this feature in the Linux version of The Gimp, and it works perfectly. There is a Windows build of The Gimp available here: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ It should do exactly the same as the Linux version I use (and since it's open source, you can freely download and install it.. just like you can with OpenOffice.org). MS Word does the display on my computer. I found a colleague where the EPS was not shown, even not in MS Word. He installed some "Office Converter Pack" to be found on MS internet server. I was looking for a similar thing for OOo. Sorry, there I cannot help (since I don't have or use Windows)... maybe someone else on the mailing list has a suggestion? C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] EPS on screen
[snip] ok, that works, C. Thank you. However, the quality is very bad: dithered black and white only. I should find something different or enhance the preview. Otherwise people will prefer jpg or tif regardless how printing quality suffers. I did a little experimenting here... try opening the original EPS file and just saving it again with a new with The Gimp... then re-import it to your document. When I checked the Preview checkbox I got a dithered image (that you mentioned) on my test image when it was imported. When I left the check box unchecked, and then imported the EPS, it showed up nicely (full color, no dithering). Note, this may be due to the fact I am using Solaris at the moment for my testing (GhostScript is installed here, and that may be handling showing the image on an EPS without an embedded preview). Anyone else care to chime in here? C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using CTL
I am using OpenOffice v2.04 for Linux, and am very new with it. Most of what I want to use it for will be in English, but occasionally I need to write a document in Hebrew; I have Hebrew set up as the CTL language. I am using the fonts that came with openSuSE v10.2; i am assuming that these are Unicode fonts, and that they support a Hebrew character set, but I have no real basis for believing this. "Enabled for complex text layout" is checked, but is greyed out, which looks suspicious to me. In Tools > Options > LanguageSettings > Languages I see no way to toggle explicitly between Western and CTL languages. Simply setting alignment to the Right margin does not switch to CTL, but I didn't really expect it to do so. What have I overlooked? Or what have the writers of the documentation failed to make sufficiently explicit to penetrate my consciousness? Hi Stan. I've looked into this a little. In the regular OpenOffice.org 2.2.1 release the CTL checkbox is working (ie not greyed out) and I can select a language for CTL. I am guessing you are using the Novell build of OpenOffice.org that came with openSUSE 10.2. Have you asked this question on the openSUSE mailing list yet? You could try adding in the OpenOffice.org repositories and installing the latest Novell build (which will bring you up to 2.2.1). http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#OpenOffice.org_STABLE This may fix your problem. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Question: Download the OpenOffice Writer only?
VERY confusing - especially for someone new to computers or at least to non-Microsoft programmes ! A real reorganisation is called for here Yes, and reorganization is in the works. Consider the Wiki FAQ as leading. The WebFAQs which are incredibly old in places (some refer to solutions for StarOffice v5.1 for example) are no longer current. If you to http://documentation.openoffice.org/ and click the FAQ link it will take you to the Wiki (currently to a Wiki redirect page... I will request that to be fixed). The main page FAQ (and other) links should also be redirected to the Wiki FAQ. Hang in there... a lot is being done to open things up so that the community can help keep it up to date - such as moving things like the FAQs over to the Wiki. There is a lot to do, but we're getting there. :-) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using CTL
> Curiously, although the CTL checkbox is greyed out, it is also checked, so that it is difficult to interpret what being greyed out means. That is strange. I forgot to check my install of OO.o (in openSUSE10.2) at home to see if I have a similar experience. But now i have discovered that the problem seems not to be confined to OOo at all H that sounds like maybe it is is a thing for the openSUSE community to help out with? Keep everyone posted on your findings. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: OpenOffice.org User Survey -- >to Clayton
Can't test it myself since this feature has a problem on my system (using the official OOo French package however). Perhaps someone from OOo (or Sun) could answer. Hagar Try Help|Registration. Note: this is also where you are sent for the initial registration when you first install the program. It's not the same survey. Clayton, do you have an idea ? No I don't. I will ask around though and see what I can dig up. The survey you get directed to from Help > Registration in OpenOffice.org 2.3 (the version I am testing at the moment) takes you to http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/registration20.html which quickly redirects to a current survey (which is actually a bit longer than the one the original poster was commenting on about it being too long). How the old survey was dug up.. no idea. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using CTL
But this is still not using the CTL facility of OOo. The "Enabled for CTL: is still greyed out (and checked), and I have not been able to find a way to switch between "Western" and CTL languages. It might help me if I knew what action _should_ toggle between the two. Since only two languages are involved, I would have expected the same behavior as that used in other OSes, namely Right goes to CTL and Left goes to "Western". I asked a few people here in the office and got an answer regarding the greyed out check box. Here is Stephan's reply --- Stefan Baltzer wrote: > Hi! > > Note that currently OOo 2.2.1 is available and we are currently > about to release OOo 2.3 soon (below, OOo 2.04 was named). > > When the Office is started in a Hebrew or Arabic locale, then the CTL > support can not be switched off (Box is checked and greyed out). > > The purpose is that the users shall not mistakingly disable > the support (CTL) they will very likely need some time (because > of the locale). > > So if you start your office in a non-CTL locale (i.e. en_US), then the > check box will be enabled again. But there is no point to uncheck it > if you want to write in Hebrew from time to to time. CTL support > "only" brings up a few more controls (Format-Character-Font) or lint > box entries (i.e. text direction in Format-Page-Tab "page", Box "text > direction". Note that in Format-Paragraph-Alignment-Properties-Text > direction, the selection "use superordinate settings" enherits the > text direction from the page style. Only for "mixed documents", this > should be set there t have LTR and RTL paragraphs on one page. But > most users tend to use the "hard setting" with the text direction > buttons in the Writer main menu bar. > > Regards, > Stefan C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] doc will not open in MS word
My daughter has a new computer at college and I couldn't afford to buy MS Office for her so I told her to download your office suite. She emailed me her first document as an attachment to read and it will not open in MS word (which I have on my computer). Is there anyway to read this? Hello Donna. You have a couple of choices (I am assuming you are using some version of Microsoft Windows). 1. If you are using MS Office, you can download and install the ODF plugin for MS Office: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ This will allow you to open ODF files in MS Office. 2. You can also install OpenOffice. 3. You can ask your daughter to save all her documents in MS Office format instead of the ISO standard ODF format. This is done with File Save As, and it can also be set to the default save format for OpenOffice. To set MS Office format as the default, your daughter needs to go to: Tools > Options > Load/Save > General > Default file format and set the Always save as option for each Document type to Microsoft Office formats. (Copy to Donna as she is not subscribed to the mailing list) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] why are you not helping me?
> You are requested to please help me,in this website > (http://www.openoffice.org/index.html) I entered and I saw > --- > openoffice.org 2.2.1 The OpenOffice.org Community announces the > availability of OpenOffice.org Release 2.2.1. This is a minor bug fix > release - full details of the changes can be found in the release notes, > but it fixes security vulnerabilities, and we recommend that all users > should download it now and I clicked on Release Notes and I saw > List of integrated child workspaces but when I clicked on those, The child workspace details are only interesting if you want to know the details of what as integrated into that workspace. This is where you ended up. > The error message was: Could not create user with id but when I was putting > the user name and password in this website > (http://development.openoffice.org/releases/2.2.1.html) right hand side above > I could see my user name and password are right.So I could not solve the > problem so,I need your help,please help me.I am waiting for your reply. So... do you want to log into the development part of the OpenOffice.org site? Or simply download the latest version of OpenOffice.org? If you want to download OpenOffice.org, go right back to the beginning and click on the big green "get OpenOffice.org" in the middle of the page. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS
Despite your comments regarding Sun StarOffice, I still suggest that you consider downloading and giving it a try. I am having trouble finding a download page that is free as in beer, other than a trial version. I don't like to use trial versions, as they have lots of problems associated with them. I am willing to give Star Office a shot. If you're still playing in the Windows world, you can get a full (licensed) version of StarOffice as part of Google Pack. If you've upgraded the OS to Mac, Linux, or Solaris... then OpenOffice.org is the free choice (among others). C -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOo v2.1 document not opening in v2.2 on same computer
My wife's resume`, which was created in OOo Writer 2.1, will not open in OOo 2.2 on the same computer. OOo asks which chart filter to use when opening the document. The document contains no chart. I enclose the file, so that others can verify the situation. What can I do to salvage the contents? This machine runs Fedora Core 6 with the KDE desktop. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen No problem opening the file, but then I don't work on Fedora, but on Mac Intel... My OOo 2.2 doesn't ask anything about chart filters. Same here. I was able to open the document in StarOffice and OpenOffice.org (both running on Solaris) with no errors. How did you update to 2.2 on Fedora? Are you using Fedora specific builds, or the "official" build from openoffice.org? Do you get the chart filter request when you do a File > Open or when you click on the document in a file manager? Or both? C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Trainning Requirement for Open Office
Adrian Try wrote: Hi Sanjeev Can you tell me the name of institue in mumbai which can provide trainning on open office. There is a list of OpenOffice.org consultants - many of whom provide training - at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops... Adrian, you pasted in Sanjeev's email address instead of the URLs you meant to paste :-) Sanjeev, take a look here: http://bizdev.openoffice.org/consultants.html There are a few companies in India that provide various professional/commercial services for OpenOffice.org. There are also several that provide global support and training. If you look here: http://support.openoffice.org/index.html you will see a lot of community (free) resources for OpenOffice.org.. tutorials, forums, books and so on. (for example, there is a link to LearnOpenOffice.org which provides web based training and video tutorials that might meet your needs) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Charlene Robey wrote: I would like to download your program, but I need to know if it is compatilble with Windows Vista. Thanks, Charlene Robey Yes, OpenOffice.org works on Vista. The download link says "Windows All Versions (>98)" and the System requirements state that it works on Vista: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html (this is a link on the right side of the download page) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Steve & Tami Chandler wrote: Hi When I send my open office files (.odt), they can't be opened. How can they be opened? Thanks, Steve OpenOffice defaults to the ISO standard format for documents. This format can be opened and read by any office suite that uses this standard. Microsoft Office does NOT adhere to this standard (instead opting to lock people into proprietary formats). This leaves you with a few choices: - encourage others to use an office suite that uses ODT such as OpenOffice.org or KOffice (just to name two). - ask the people you are sending documents to, to install the ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office from here: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/ This fixes MS Office so that it can open and save ODF files - keep the document in ODF format and when you want to send out the document click File > Send > Email as Microsoft Word and the document will be converted and attached to a new mail message in your default email client. - save your files in MS Office format (File > Save As) (You can also set OpenOffice.org to always save your documents in MS Office formats by going to: Tools > Options > Load/Save > General > Default file format and set the file format for each document type) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: will you develop OpenOffice for PalmOS
Guy Voets wrote: 2007/10/6, NoOp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 10/05/2007 06:38 AM, iamloki wrote: I find your software £¢OpenOffice£¢of great use,but why didn£§t you develop PalmOS version?I hope in the near future i can run OpenOffice on my palm handheld.. I don't think the palm has sufficient memory/power to run the full OOo suite. However, if you want to read .odt documents on your palm you [snip] In this same line of thought, one of the guys presenting at the OOoCon2007 in Barcelona was the developer of this product http://www.sept-solutions.de/English/office.php It allows you to view ODF documents on Sybian OS devices (most Nokia, Sony Ericsson etc. mobile phones). The demo he gave was very good, and the viewer really does a great job of allowing you to view ODF documents on small Symbian based devices. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Re: I WANT TO DOWNLOAD YOU OFFICE PGM
In the past, there have been other complaints/threads regarding this issue, but I've yet to see it fixed. IMO a great many of the "can this be installed on" questions could be cleared up by simply fixing the OOo website. [..] Do you know how to go about that? (getting the OOo website changed) The issue is: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74860 Vote for it, if you want to raise its profile. Changes to the OOo website are being discussed on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. If you want to help out or suggest changes, that is the place to do it. The current discussion includes ideas on how to fix up the system requirements to try and make it more obvious. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] is there a portable open office?
Isaac Owen wrote: hi all. just wondering if there is a portable version of open office available or if there is one planned? just something i can put on my flash and portable HD so i dont have to save a copy of all my files in .doc(office format) to display in class/friends comps etc. A quick check on portableapps.com lead me to: http://portableapps.com/apps/office/openoffice_portable So.. yes, there is a portable version of OpenOffice.org C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] refund
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am very dissapointed in your program i do not understand the program i want my refund OpenOffice.org is free to download, and supported for free in places like this mailing list by a community of volunteers. Some vendors do sell OpenOffice.org on CD as a service to people who cannot download the software and prefer to have it on CD. If you paid a vendor for OpenOffice.org, you need to contact that vendor directly. If you are having problems using OpenOffice.org, just ask here on the mailing list. There are lots of people here who can help you find a solution to your problem with the software. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Use of colors
Theresa Jones wrote: Please send me your telephone number please because I do not know how to get the colors on the program. There is no telephone number for you to call. OpenOffice.org is free to download, and supported by a community of volunteers from all over the world. You can ask your question on this mailing list and the volunteers here will do their best to help you out. Make sure you tell us what operating system you are using (for example WindowsXP, Linux, MacOSX), what version of OpenOffice.org you are using (for example version 2.2.1, version 2.3.0 etc), and describe what you are trying to do. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Diane Bailey wrote: What program do i use to open a Publisher file? MS Publisher uses a proprietary file format that is not supported by any other application. This software is the perfect example of why people should stay away from proprietary non-standards compliant software. You get locked into a proprietary file format that cannot be read or opened by any other program, and that even is incompatible with itself over different versions. You are at the mercy of the vendor. There are some things you can do if you still have access to the version of Publisher that was used to create the Publisher files. - Open the document in Publisher convert the Publisher document to HTML, PDF or PostScript. If you need to be able to edit the document, you can export it as TXT or RTF, but you will have to recreate your layout all over again. There was some discussion about Publisher here: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=61263&highlight=publisher Microsoft support suggests exporting as TIFF (an image format) or PDF. There are some free online resources to convert PUB files to PDF such as: https://www.pdfonline.com/convert_pdf.asp This is a good solution if you do not have access to the version of Publisher that was used to create the file. OpenOffice.org Draw and Write are actually quite powerful, and can do almost all of what most people do with Publisher. If you need a more powerful desktop publishing application, Scribus is very good http://www.scribus.net/ and cross platform (Linux, Mac, and Windows) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: Using the coloring
Theresa Jones wrote: I am using Windows XP 2000 Iam using version 2.3.0 of OpenOffice.org Iam trying to use the color system to color different Things and I do not know where to find it on the toolbar so would you Please tell me where to go to get it. Theresa, please ask your question on the mailing list users@openoffice.org and not to me directly. If you ask on the mailing list, you will get an answer a lot faster, and be able to draw on the experience of hundreds of people who know all the tips and tricks for OpenOffice.org. What are you trying to add color to? Text? A drawing?` A presentation? C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Where to go
I am using Windows XP 2000 Iam using version 2.3. Of OpenOffice.org Iam trying to use the color system to color different things, and I do not know where to find it on the toolbar and where to go to change the fonts and different number size. Please tell me where to go to get it. There are several ways to change colors. If for example you want to change the color of a word to red, select the text, and find the toolbar button with a capital A and a colored bar under it. Next to that A is a little down pointing triangle. Click that and it will open a color palate where you can select the text color. Alternatively you could also go to the top menus and click Format > Character > Font Effects and select the font color there. To change the fonts, you can select the font from the toolbar. By default is should be in the second row of buttons. In that second row there are three white boxes. The second box is the font selector. You can also change the fonts by clicking Format > Character > Font and choose the font you want. Does this help you out and get you started in the right direction? C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why are you giving this away for free? is it loaded with popups or other advertising? There are NO popups or advertising. OpenOffice.org is free to download and use. That's it, there are no catches That is how the open source world works. Companies earn their money with OpenOffice.org by supplying added value. That added value can be in professional paid support, additional templates, clipart, fonts, etc. and so on. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Licen for OpenOffice in Cybercafes
Luís Pereira wrote: Hi, Is that legal to use the OpenOffice in Cybecafés? Does that need any special licen that has to be purchased? Hi Luís OpenOffice.org is released under the LGPL. It is free to download, and you are allowed to install it on as many computers as you wish, and use it in any context including in an Internet Cafe. There is no need for any special license. You can read up on the licensing here: http://www.openoffice.org/license.html C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Writer Feature Question: Reveal Codes
Richard Detwiler wrote: Jack S Berger wrote: Re: Writer Does your word processor have the equivalent of the "Reveal Codes" function in WordPerfect? No, it does not. This topic has been discussed a lot over the years. Search the mailing list archives and the various forums to see that it is a popular topic. There is a bug open on this as well, that has had dozens of comments: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 The basic answer is still the same though... there is currently no Reveal Codes functionality in OpenOffice.org. See also: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/FormattingText#Does_OpenOffice.org_have_a_Reveal_Codes_functionality_similar_to_WordPerfect.3F http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide/Introduction (section: What are the issues when migrating from WordPerfect to Writer?) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] attatchments not readable?
craig neumann wrote: Dear users@openoffice.org, I downloaded your word processor and can construct letters and memos ok but when I use my hotmail and want to sent any of these documents as an attachment to someone else, they tell me they can't read them. I reviewed your tutorials and it said that I needed to change these documents as a microsoft file to be readable but do you do that? (Going to "files" and then "open" doesn't work.) What do I have to do to change these files so other people who don't have your WP can read my letters? You have a few choices. You can pick the one that is best for you: - Encourage your friends to download and install OpenOffice.org. - Send people a PDF if they do not need to edit the documents you are sending. OpenOffice.org can easily create PDFs from your documents. - Click File / Save as and set the File Type to "Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP and send them that file. - Click File / Send / Email as Microsoft Word and OpenOffice.org will convert you document "on the fly" to MS Word format and attach it to an new email for you. - Set the OpenOffice.org default file format to always save your documents in Microsoft Office formats. Click Tools / Options / Load/Save / General and set the Default file formats for the various document types to their equivalent Microsoft Office formats. - People still using Microsoft Office can install the "Sun ODF Plugin 1.1 for Microsoft Office" from here: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin This will allow them to work with the ISO standard document formats in Microsoft Office. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Extensions.services.openoffice.org?
Your website sometimes has an extra "services" i.e. extensions.services.openoffice.org -- why the services? Why not just switch it to extensions.openoffice.org? I've noticed that going to extensions.openoffice.org seems to go to a different place, but services.openoffice.org doesn't even work. What's going on here? The simple answer is that this is due to where some parts of the OpenOffice.org web services are hosted. There are limitations to what is possible within the Colabnet infrastructure (Colabnet is the host for the OOo website). To provide additional web services beyond what can easily be done within the Colabnet infrastructure, some parts of the openoffice.org website are hosted elsewhere, and linked via *.services.openoffice.org. Generally, anything you see that is something.services.openoffice.org is hosted outside the Collabnet infrastructure. For example, the forum at http://user.services.openoffice.org and the Wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org are hosted on servers in the Sun offices in Hamburg, Germany. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] "Command timed out"
Mischa Frusztajer wrote: Dear Users, Version: Open Office 2.4 OS: Leopard Problem description: Every time I launch OO (whether directly by trying to launch from the dock or by clicking an appropriate document), X11 loads, and then I get the beach ball for 30-40 seconds, and an error dialog that reads "Command timed out." I hit "OK," and then whatever application is appropriate launches beautifully. I could really do without the 30 to 40 second delay every time. Already tried re-installing. Any suggestions? The problem was introduced because a change in the way X11 works in OSX Leopard. There is a fix described here: http://shaunmcdonald131.blogspot.com/2008/03/ooo-possible-fix-for-command-timed-out.html You can also just launch X11 first, then launch OpenOffice.org. This will not be a problem once the Aqua version of OpenOffice.org is released (because X11 will no longer be required). There is a fair bit of discussion about this on the OpenOffice.org forum... for example, here: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1868&p=11352 C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OpenOffice Slugdom
Dean Livingston wrote: People... Why is OpenOffices' Writer sooo slow to open. Abi Word does not suffer from this. It is a fine piece of software. Are there configuration things I should look at in OpenOffice? Very frustrating. Can any one help?? There are several blog entries around that describe ways you can tweak OpenOffice.org so that it launches faster... eg: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/08/18/how-to-speed-up-openoffice/ Note, it appears that you are not subscribed to the OpenOffice.org user mailing list, so I have CCed you. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OpenOffice Slugdom
There are several blog entries around that describe ways you can tweak OpenOffice.org so that it launches faster... eg: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/08/18/how-to-speed-up-openoffice/ Note, it appears that you are not subscribed to the OpenOffice.org user mailing list, so I have CCed you. Clayton, what happens when one disables JRE on OOo, as suggested on the blog to which you linked ?... I'd say that without JRE certain things (Base!) won't work... Yes that is correct. Anything in OpenOffice.org that needs Java won't work after you disable Java (logical)... so that usually means some of the Wizards, and Base. If you do all those steps except the Java one (leaving Java enabled), you will still see a startup speed increase (just not as much as when you also disable Java)... at least I've seen a change when running on Solaris, Kubuntu and openSUSE. I have never tried it in Windows since I do not use that OS anymore. I assume the results will be the same there. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Download Failure
Firstly, there is no such thing as Open Office 2007. There is an online vendor that is selling "Instant Downloads" of OpenOffice.org under the above name for $9.95 per download. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] windows server 2008 - thin client install
The WS2008 installing bloke just installed OO.o as a normal app and it works on all thin client logins no problems. I only need to get program install privileges to add the dictionaries. Locked down users can't install them and i can't install them system wide. I do need to run through the licence/registration steps on a per user basis which is a pain, but i am putting an OO.o Writer shortcut on every desktop for them anyway. Have you read the OOo Admininstration Guide on this? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Deactivating_Registration_Wizard You can use an Extension (provided on that Wiki page) to disable the Registration Wizard. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] not compatable with Microsoft
Loren Rinehard wrote: I have Openoffice 2.5 and I am an online student. I purchased your program a week ago and am very upset. your advertisement said that your program was compatible with Microsoft Office. Well, how come none of my classmates or instructor can not read what I submitted? If you can't fix this problem I would please like my money back. Loren Rinehard, Jr. OpenOffice.org is available for free from http://www.openoffice.org If you paid for it, and wish a refund, you will have to contact the company or person you purchased this free software from. Microsoft does not support the international ISO standard document that OpenOffice.org and many other office suites use. This is the default file format for OpenOffice.org. You have several options to resolve this, including simply telling OpenOffice.org to save the documents in MS Office formats. Please read the documentation on this: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Migration_Guide/Sharing_Files People with Microsoft Office can also install the Sun ODF plugin which fixes their Office install so that it can open and save documents in ODF format. http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Question About A Tutorial
Bruce Brimacombe wrote: Hello there, I was wondering if there would be a tutorial that one could look at concerning Open Office products. I am especially interested in Impress, and as I have no previous experience with Power Point I have nothing to fall back on to get me started from the very beginning. Anyway, I would be very interested in knowing if anything was available. There are a few places you can go to get started with Impress... There is one PDF tutorial linked here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Tutorials There is the Impress guide found here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Impress_Guide The Impress FAQ is here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Impress There are two Impress HowTos here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Didn't receive download instructions for Open Ofice Suite 2008
Norman Manzon wrote: Hello Open Office, Per attachment, about a week ago, I ordered a free download of Open Office Suite 2008 from this address: http://www.2008-official.com/openoffice/. A click or two later, I signed up for your 3-year VIP plan for $34.95, which I paid for through PayPal. Your instructions said that download instructions for OE Suite 2008 would be sent to my email address. I have no doubt that the correct e-address was entered as I did it via RoboForm, which performed many such transactions successfully already. I have not yet received download instructions. Please send them. OpenOffice.org is available for free download from http://www.openoffice.org The only download instructions you need are to go to the Official OpenOffice.org website and download the latest release. There are no fees associated with this download, and you are allowed to install it on as many computers as you like (free of charge), and use it in any setting including business, private and school. Any problems with the services or product you purchased from "2008-official" need to be taken up with "2008-official". The volunteers here on the OpenOffice.org are not affiliated with this company in any way. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OpenOffice and portable harddrives
I was wondering if there are any compatibility issues between open source software, such as yours, and portable harddrives? Thanks. Michael Brunelle Open source software is no different from any other software in this regard. There are now some (hopefully a very few) external hard drives available in this country that are pre-set so that they are quite difficult to use fully with Linux. :-( Pre-set? How? Current Linux distributions can read and write most, if not all, hard drive partition formats including Microsoft's NTFS. I have never seen a portable hard drive or USB drive that could not be easily mounted in Linux, and used by OpenOffice.org. This is not to say such drives don't exist, but I have yet to see one that will not work with Linux and OpenOffice.org. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OpenOffice and portable harddrives
In what way difficult, please? With pre-installed software that resists formatting for at least one partition. I have not seen this often, but I have seen it. (The idea, I believe, is allegedly to make using the drive to back-up Windows more automatic.) And how does this pre-installed software get executed? In Windows, you run it and it backs your data up for you, I believe. (I have seen it done, but never done it.) > Especially on a Linux box? It doesn't - but it blocks anything else and makes formatting the whole drive difficult. I think I know what you are referring to here... external drives such as the Maxtor One-Touch. These are still usable, but yes that hidden "helpful" partition can be a headache if you want to reformat the entire drive. It takes a little wrangling regardless of OS to reclaim the entire drive from one of these specialty drives - much like laptops with a hidden recovery partition. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Recommended computer specification
Netadmin wrote: Hi i cant seem to find you recommened and minimum computer specifications for your software Thank you for your time Go to: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html The link for the System Requirements can be found on the right. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using OpenOffice?
I work at a company, ABB. And we wonder if we can use the OpenOffice package on our computers, and can we have the program installed when we ship it to our customers? Do we have to pay for a license or something like that? OpenOffice.org is released under the LGPL. You are allowed to download it and install it on as many computers as you wish, business, classroom or private. You do not need a special license or permission to install OpenOffice.org on computers you sell. Quoting from: http://www.openoffice.org/product/product.html === OpenOffice.org is free software * you may download OpenOffice.org completely free of any licence fees * install it on as many PCs as you like * use it for any purpose - private, educational, government and public administration, commercial... * pass on copies free of charge to family, friends, students, employees, etc. === See: http://www.openoffice.org/license.html for specifics on licensing. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Posts from Michelle Konzack
Er, common sense would be not using an email client that runs 'payloads' in email messages. I would love to hear of a real-world scenario where an automatic email macro would be used for non-malicious purposes. Many years ago, the IT department where I worked used to use this "feature" to roll out updates. I'm not saying it was good practice... it was just how they did things. The employees would start up their email in the morning, see a message from the It guys... click on it to read it, and it would immediately - with no other user interaction launch an install or update. There was no way to stop it once the email message had been opened. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] docx
Wade Smart wrote: Tony Venn wrote: I work on MAC with OSX, and I have a full commercial working version of the Office programs. People keep sending CVs and documents to me in DOCX format - how do i open or convert these into normal word documents? When you say "full commercial working version of the Office programs" do you mean you have MS Office for Mac installed? OpenOffice.org 2.4? There are a few choices for converting the docs into something you can read. You can use an online converter such as: http://docx-converter.com/ There are many out there... this is just one that I found with a Google search... this is not a site recommendation, just an example. You can ask the person sending you the document to send in a more compatible format. You can install the OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta which can open docx files. C. (copy sent to unsubscribed poster) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]
Serious question: what is so good about Windows XP that it is worth petitioning for? I have used Windows XP in the past, and found it a very frustrating and insecure operating system. What features does Windows XP have that users feel are missing from other OS's? This is not a troll, but a serious question. This is my observations... just observations, not based on "facts"... Many many people are dissatisfied with Vista. It failed to live up to hopes and hype. It will not run well on anything but the latest hardware. People dislke the rather silly security features of Vista. People are happy with XP as it is. Security is generally of little concern to the vast majority of users that I talk to - the concern for security is usually found amongst those who are more computer savvy, and those users already know how to either lock down Windows XP or use an alternative such as Linux. Windows XP has familiarity. It has been the "only" OS available for a long long time (8 years is a whole generation of users who only know one OS), and this has got people used to one way of working... change is not easy, and Vista or any other OS such as Linux means change. (I say only because when in the last 20 years have you gone into a consumer electronics store or a dedicated home computer shop and found anything but some version of Windows?) Windows XP has a massive stock of commercial applications that work with it. Vista cannot lay the same claim as many legacy applications work poorly or even not at all (look at the large number of people asking for a version of OpenOffice.org that works in Vista... they've been burnt before by Vista and now they ask first). People are not aware that there are other excellent choices such as OSX, Linux, OpenSolaris, etc etc. The list goes on and on. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]
> I see. This is how I summerize: 1) Dissatisfaction with the successor of XP 2) Unfamiliarity with anything else 3) Inability of legacy programs to run on other OSes (including the successor to XP) I understand then that there is no 'killer feature' in Windows XP that people need other than the ability to run legacy software. I thought that maybe the OS itself had some feature that was desirable. Thanks. That is how I observe it. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] http://www.saveXP.org/ [WAS: Wrong OS or OS Version]
jonathon wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:28 AM, ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote: I say only because when in the last 20 years have you gone into a consumer electronics store or a dedicated home AFAIK, computers at _The Apple Store_ have never shipped with a Microsoft operating system. Yes.. and? Were were talking about computers that ran Windows XP, and why people were trying so hard to save XP... not about Apple Computers. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How can I edit PDF
Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:15:19 +0530 "Anirban Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Anirban, Is there any way I can edit an existing PDF using Open Office? Sadly, not directly. Although OOo can create PDFs it cannot open them for re-editing. What _is_ possible is to save the document not only as a PDF but also as a .odt file. That way, you can load in the .odt file, modify it, save it, then save as PDF as well. It is coming though. Take a look here: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport This extension requires the latest OpenOffice.org 3.0 Beta. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How can I edit PDF
It is coming though. Take a look here: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport I wasn't aware. Thanks for the pointer. Check the date.. it was just posted today, so likely a lot that were not aware. :-) Note it is a Beta release of the Extension, and it only works on the latest Beta of OOo3.0. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: How can I edit PDF
It does import the PDF into Draw; unfortunately it only imports the text of the PDF and doesn not import the graphics. Hmmm I just tried the extension this morning, and it imported all the graphics from the graphics heavy PDF I imported. It's not perfect (gradients import kind of oddly), but all graphics definitely did import, and they are editable. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How can I edit PDF
It is coming though. Take a look here: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport I wasn't aware. Thanks for the pointer. Check the date.. it was just posted today, so likely a lot that were not aware. :-) Note it is a Beta release of the Extension, and it only works on the latest Beta of OOo3.0. I didn't notice any 64 bit versions. Let the developers know you want a 64 Bit version. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How can I edit PDF
I didn't notice any 64 bit versions. Let the developers know you want a 64 Bit version. Given that most new computers are 64 bit these days and 64 bit Linux has been around for years (I've been running it for 2), I'd expect developers to be a bit more proactive. So.. tell them so :-) Just guessing here... the vast majority of people, myself included, are still running 32-bit OSes despite having had 64-bit CPUs for several years (even among the Linux crowd this is true). The demand isn't as high as it probably should or could be... so give the developers of the extension the feedback that there are people who need a 64 bit version. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How does Lotus Symphony compare with open office?
legolas wrote: Hi I saw that Lotus Symphony has a version which can be installed on Ubuntu, I was wondering how does it compare with OpenOffice when it come to writing articles and text documents. Which one is more close to Microsoft Office 2007 or 2003? Last I checked it supported ODF, and the basic MS Office formats but not OOXML (docx etc). The core of Symphony is based on OpenOffice.org 1.1.4. Symphony is not open sourced (it's released under a proprietary license), although it is available for no charge. The user interface is different that what you get in OpenOffice.org... What do you mean which is more close to MS Office 2007 or 2003? Lotus Symphony has a different UI than OpenOffice.org... and both are different than MS Office. A review comparing OpenOffice.org and Symphony: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/3703501 C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Will open office sync with Blackberry and can it process pictures
Michelle wrote: Before I decide to try the open office product, I would like to know if Open office will sync with Blackberry 8703e. I did not find any mention in the articles if it was capable of doing so. Also, after reading all of information about the product, I did not find anywhere that it mentioned that it could size and/or improve pictures that are loaded onto a computer. Does it have that capability? Thank you for answering my questions. Michelle Hi Michelle OpenOffice.org is an office suite (word processor, spreadsheet, drawing, presentation and database). An open source and free cross platform graphics editor I often recommend is "The Gimp". It is available for Linux, Mac and Windows. You can use this program to resize, scale, and edit images. I am guessing that you are using MS Windows. The Windows version can be downloaded here: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html The Mac version can be downloaded from: http://gimp-app.sourceforge.net/ or http://www.macgimp.org/ You could also use something like Picassa to do your editing: http://picasa.google.com C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] help log-in
I installed Open Office software and tried to log in .I got the following passwords from but you they were not accepted, and are only valid till 5-11-07 Visit this URL to set your password: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/PasswordEdit?userID=446169&ticket=f5029c23a0692eb45317c7fc44fd5424 The above URL is valid only until November 5, 2007 1:28:33 PM GMT. Visit this URL to set your password: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/PasswordEdit?userID=446169&ticket=8f70f9e837630ed5b294e94efc790cfc The above URL is valid only until November 5, 2007 1:29:17 PM GMT. please help, and thank you Marijke van de Kasteele - Drost It appears you got this from someone who charges for providing nothing more than a download link for something that's available for free from www.openoffice.org. You'll have to complain to them, as you didn't pay your money to anyone here. We are simply volunteers, who help others with OpenOffice and the vast majority of us have no other connection to OpenOffice, Sun or vendors. As I mentioned, you can always download OpenOffice at no charge from www.openoffice.org. James, The URL definitely takes the user to an openoffice.org web site, in particular to "http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ErrorPage";. So what is this site? When I go there I get "Password ticket 8f70f9e837630ed5b294e94efc790cfc is not valid. It may have been expired or used already." which seems to indicate that OO Knows about passwords and tickets. What is going on here? I deliberately haven't copied the *unsubscribed* OP on this. I hope you'll understand ... As proposed on the Servlet error page, I sent a mail to the Webmaster... Curious to know what this is about! If you goto www.openoffice.org, click My Pages Register for an account Fill in a username and valid email address, and click the Register button. You will receive an email at the address you gave with a similar link. All this person did was try to register as a user on the OpenOffice.org website. The same process anyone has to go through to register an account. if you don't click the link in the 3 week period it's valid, the account is not created. You only need this account if you are planning on participating in OpenOffice.org in some way... opening or contributing to a big report, project etc. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using "www.openoffice.org" -- The Flustered Factor ??
Excellent observations... Is there a usability group? Drat, i have to run... See this list here for ideas http://projects.openoffice.org/index.html This is a perfect example of what I mean. I spent an hour at the http://projects.openoffice.org/index.html site yesterday afternoon and another half hour this morning. Send a copy of my original post to the User Interface list (I think). Can't remember from yesterday to today which of the many I actually choose. Far too many list choices, too crammed together. Can't find my post on any of the lists. Not sure if I actually signed up to receive mail from whichever list. My username and password was accepted on some lists but rejected on the Wiki. etc. etc. I am not asking for help, I'll get it sorted out. But, boy, if I wasn't persistent or if I was relatively new, I would feel like I was drowning in a morass of too many choices, cross links and abstract definitions. KISS It is definitely being worked on. There is a lively discussion about it all on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list... changes to the Wiki, the website, etc It's worth a read if you are interested. Look at September up to now. http://website.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=dev C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Chinese version
>> Dear sir >> I just download the english version. however, just reading arround your >> website, I found that the software is avaiable in Chinese too, please teach >> how to change the english version to chinese version (use add-ons). Or I >> need to re-download the chinese version? >> Awaiting your reply >> Best Regards >> Pakying Chan >> > I don't know if there is a Chinese "language pack" that will convert > from English to Chinese. Please see http://zh.openoffice.org/index.html > > It might be simpler to download the whole thing. For the Chinese version, you can also get the RedOffice3.0 version of OpenOffice.org. This is OpenOffice.org, but with a totally redesigned user interface designed by and for the Chinese market. You will find more information (in Chinese) here: http://www.ch2000.com.cn/ The user interface redesign (shown at OOoCon2007 in Barcelona) for RedOffice3.0 is really interesting. I cannot find any screencaps to link to though. Basically, they have completely removed the traditional menus, and given it in what I would best describe as a "task based" icon driven user interface. The result is something that is much more intuitive to the Chinese users, and more suitable to their style of writing documents. It is quite brilliant, and I wish there was an English version for the rest of us. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Chinese version
You will find more information (in Chinese) here: http://www.ch2000.com.cn/ The user interface redesign (shown at OOoCon2007 in Barcelona) for RedOffice3.0 is really interesting. I cannot find any screencaps to link to though. Basically, they have completely removed the traditional menus, and given it in what I would best describe as a "task based" icon driven user interface. The result is something that is much more intuitive to the Chinese users, and more suitable to their style of writing documents. It is quite brilliant, and I wish there was an English version for the rest of us. I downloaded the RedOffice to give it a try. It's weird that the program is compressed in rar instead of an open format. I had to terminate the installation because a dialogue popup saying it would update some files used by OpenOffice(I was doing some work in the Writer at the moment). I just don't know why it will alter some files used by OpenOffice(my current version is 2.2.0). Rar is a common file compression format (as are zip, arj etc.). I don't see the issue with rar over any other compression format. If they had picked bzip2, gzip or tar, that would have likely confused their MS Windows customers since these compression formats are not as common on the Windows platform. I have never installed RedOffice (I can't read or speak Chinese) so can't give you any input as to why it would try to overwrite an existing installation of OpenOffice. All I have to go on was the presentation that the guys from RedOffice gave at the conference in Barcelona this summer. Do they have a support mailing list or forum? Maybe the answer can be found there? Another possibility is the Chinese Native Language project at http://zh.openoffice.org/new/index.html C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using OpenOffice in a Microsoft Office environment
> I need them only to view the presentation, not to edit it. Is there a light > weight viewer, that can be installed on their machine (with permission of > course) when they open my presentation? The simplest solution to this is to export as PDF. It is quite likely they all have a PDF viewer (eg Acrobat Reader) available. This will allow them to view the presentations but not edit, and you will be sure that what they receive is exactly what you intended. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] hola from anita nicholson and need some support
> I just uninstalled every bit of open office. I could not open many of my > documents on other computers. > > All my files changed back to word (which is perfect for me) except two > files. I need to open them and can not since I uninstalled open office. > > One is an ODP file and the other is an ODT file. > > Can you help? And no I do not want to install open office again. I am a > researcher and my time is so valuable. Having to deal with a program that > overrides word document that are saved as word documents that I can not > open on other computers or send through email and others can not open > attachments is slowing progress down. OpenOffice.org can save files in MS Office format. You can even set (in the Options) it to do this by default so that you do not have to remember to save the documents in MS Office formats. When you install OpenOffice.org, you have a choice to allow OpenOffice.org to be the default for your documents. Leave those checkboxes unchecked if you want your documents to remain associated with MS Office. The file association is only a convenience thing anyway, and regardless of what the file association is, you can always open any document with either office suite. OpenOffice.org does not override word documents unless you tell it to. If you open a MS Word formatted document, you can work on it and save it as MS Word format without needing to do anything special. It will only convert to ODT if you tell it to. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Office 2007 Open Office 2.3 documents
Derek wrote: Do you know when or if Open Office 2.3 will be able to open Office 2007 documents? Please Write Back Derek From an email I sent to this mailing list a couple of days ago --- If you take a look in the OpenOffice.org Wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Roadmap you will see that the MS Office12 Import Filter is included (MS Office12 is the old name for Office 2007) It is also mentioned here: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/development_at_a_glance_weekly35 And... if you look here on the OpenOffice.org Wiki, there is some more information: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General#How_do_I_open_Microsoft_Office_2007_files.3F The short answer is OpenOffice.org 3.0 will have import support. If you cannot wait until then, there are variants on OpenOffice.org that already have (at least some) support for OOXML included. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Jane Declet wrote: I deleted the OpenOffice.org Writer files. I found it too hard to get it to work with my Word documents. They weren't saving as Word and it was very frustrating!!! I have a resume I'm trying to get ready to send out in Word, but nothing is happening. In my frustration, I simply deleted the whole OpenOffice package. Hope this email finds its way to you and that you tell me it was okay to do this. Thank you in advance. Any further advice would be greatly appreciated! Jane Declet All you should have to do to save in MS Word format is select File > Save As and from the File Type drop down, pick Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP. Then your document is saved in Micorsoft Office format. You can also set an option so that OpenOffice.org always saves in MS Office format (and then you don't need to do a Save As to get an Office compatible document). - Click Tools > Options - Click the + next to Load/Save to open that menu - Click on General - Find the section labeled Default file format. There are 2 drop down boxes here. You can select each document type and set the default file format. So for example to set Writer to always save in MS Word format, select Text document on the left drop down box, and select Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP on the right box. If you do this, then you don't need to remember to explicitly save your docs in MS Office format. I hope this helps, and you give OpenOffice.org a second chance. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] install free version of Open Office
Hello Mr. Fuchs , Thank you for the info, you are the only person I ask > about this that told me all the versions are free including the help & > support. I was told by a help person to download the 1.0 & it was free. OpenOffice.org is definitely free for you to download. It is free now, and will always be free. You get the full version, bit some trial version. You never have to pay for it. Support from all the volunteers is also free here on this mailing list. Go to http://www.openoffice.org to download the latest version. > When I first went into "Open Office" their page seemed to ask for a code > number which is supposed to be on the CD disk I purchased, of course > I hadn't purchased any & the cost was somewhere in the $300.00 dollar > range,hense my asking about a free download. I have a feeling you didn't land on the right page then. Use the link above, and that will take you to the right place. > I couldn't afford that. As I stated before, I did download, but couldn't > figure how to install. Installation should be fairly easy. I assume you are running Windows, so find the executable file you downloaded from http://www.openoffice.org and double click on it. This will start the installer and all you should have to do is read the instructions and click Next. The installer will unpack the files and then lead you through installing OpenOffice. If I go to the homepage for this application & > start over to download & install, should I FIRST uninstall the version > I now have before doing over? You can do that. It will ensure you have a clean start. The reason I wnted this is because I > was told that using Open Office would allow me to open some email > attachments that I get that are sent using Open Office Or a PPS.file > ( power Point ) attachment. OpenOffice.org can open doc, xls, pps, ppt files. It will not work yet for the latest Office formats, but that is the case for everyone. The documents created by the newest version of MS Office are currently incompatible with everything including older versions of MS Office. Version 3.0 of OpenOffice.org will support the new MS Office formats. If I try to open an attachment using thoes programs, I get the pop up screen that asks for my "Administrative Rights > & wants 25 character product keycode" from back of cd. This sounds like you are using MS Vista, and have the "Trial" version of the new MS Office installed. If you use this trial version of Office, it expires after a fixed period and you have to pay a lot of money to get the license key to get back into your documents. This will never happen with OpenOffice.org. > trying to download the Microsoft Office Standard Edition. Is the > Application (Microsoft ) the same as the "Open Office" I am talking > about? Will using the "Open Office" allow me to open attachments I > spoke about before, or should I just forget it all together? Thanks > for any help you can give meJoanne MS Office and OpenOffice.org are not the same program. They are similar programs that do the same kinda of jobs. You can use either to write documents, build spreadsheets, create presentations, build databases, draw things etc., but... the Microsoft one will cost you a fair bit of money to buy a legal version. OpenOffice.org is free for the legal version, and can work with MS Office format documents. You might find this documentation useful with getting started with OpenOffice.org: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Getting_Started C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOo is free to get, free to use--why is that not generally known?
Maybe it is so darn good (and it is) and the majority of the computer-using world so brainwashed by the MS hegemony that some otherwise perfectly reasonable folks think that this is all maybe too good to be true. I must confessed that the thought crossed my mind when I discovered OOo when I got interest in Linux in generally and Ubuntu specifically. I think you hit one one major aspect here. The vast majority of people only know what is given them on their computer. To them a computer is am appliance. They take what they get. If there is no icon on the desktop, the application may as well not exist (look at all the pleas for help and then amazement when they discover that there are programs listed under Start > Programs). They are told that they have to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars, euros, zlotys, shillings, francs or whatever or the software must either of such poor quality that it's unusable, or it's illegal. Couple all that with the fact that the world has a lot of crooks, and people have been burned... by spyware, malware, credit card scams etc etc. It's not much wonder no one can believe that software can actually be given away for free. Public awareness is slowly changing though. If it wasn't we wouldn't be so inundated with these questions. These frustrating questions mean that people are actually branching out and exploring the better world of Linux, OpenOffice.org, The Gimp, FireFox etc. Take a look here... and you will see just how popular the OpenOffice.org website is... http://tools.services.openoffice.org/dashboard/ C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Can Open Office convert/use Microsoft Office or Adobe files?
Richard Detwiler wrote: Yeo Kai Wei wrote: I was just wondering if Open Office can open up Microsoft Office Word Documents or Adobe .pdf files? If no, can it work with other word processor documents? It can open MS Word documents as long as they aren't from Word 2007 or whatever it is called. (.docx suffix ones, I think they are) It cannot open up pdf files. PDF import is being worked on: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pdf_Import_Extension OOXML (.docx etc) is also being worked on, and the plan is to have import support in OpenOffice.org 3.0. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] PowerPoint.ppt
This morning I forward as you suggested the presentation with 20 slides (4,55 mb) to someone who directly returned my 10 slides (11,6 mb). Result: those 20 slides were not returned. Why are 20 slides only 4,55 mb and 10 slides 11,6 mb, while the contents is equivalent. Has Open Office a possibility to compress the presentation before e-mailing it. Moreover the presentation sent via a free server did not help. The fact that a 4.55 MB attachment made it through, but not 11.6 indicates a mailbox size issue. As for the size of the files, that may depend on the image type that's saved. OpenOffice can use any of several different image file types. OpenOffice files are, by default, zipped, so they are compressed. However many image file types are already compressed and cannot be compressed further. Also, as I mentioned in another note, you appeared to have sent the file again, rather than just the link to the file. The point of using a server was that instead of sending the file directly, you simply tell the recipient where the file can be found and they then download it directly, without going through email. There is an OpenOffice.org extension that is being developed that might be helpful in situations like this. It is called Presentation Minimizer. It is not ready just yet, but watch the Extensions site here: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ When it is released (I don't know any fixed date), you will find the installation info and download links on the Extensions site. C -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Grammar checker on its way...
Of course, maybe someday there will be a grammar checker in OOo Writer and the issue will be hashed out then. The grammar checker is in the works. For which language(s), please? There is a grammar checker in the extensions repository: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/languagetool "LanguageTool is an Open Source language checker for English, German, Polish, Dutch, and other languages." There are some pretty interesting Extensions on the Extensions site :-) C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] MS Publisher
James Knott wrote: Alan Hirst wrote: Are there any Open Office applications which will de-cipher MS publisher, I've just been sent a .pub file & I can't get into it. Thanks for any help you can give. As far as I know, nothing else can read Publisher files. That is correct. Even Microsoft does not have a proper alternative. Their solution if you simply want a viewer for .PUB files is to download and install the complete version of the latest MS Publisher. It will install in Demo mode if you do not have the license key. You can then use it to view the .PUB files. You have one other solution. If the originating author of the .PUB file cannot resend the documents to you in a format that you can read, you can use one of many online PDF generators such as http://www.pdfonline.com/ I would not recommend this for confidential materials. I hope this helps. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] this verison suck!
Louise Kirkegaard wrote: Dear Open office! I am using version 2.3 for mac. and it stinks! I am sorry to say this, but you have turned at really nice product into a copy of Microsoft Word. The earlier versions worked very well with my keyboard and the shortcuts. This one do not! The apple button is not integrated, and it doesn't work with ctrl button either... the new fast scroll function is nice, but a bit out of control some times. I have used open office for 2 years now, I know what i am talking about. I love the fact that it can open any file, from other programs and I have never had problems like this before. I use open office because it used to work better than Word, but now I am not so sure, and considering wether I should switch back. I am dissapointed, that the mac version is no longer as god as it used to be. Hope the update is better. Hi Louise. I am assuming you are using the OpenOffice.org that requires X11? You can always move back to a previous version of OpenOffice.org. Many people find that a particular version works better for their needs. Some people are still using 1.1.5 for example. There is a lot of work being done on the native Mac port of OpenOffice.org. It is still in development and should be ready for everyone with OpenOffice.org 3.0. Also, NeoOffice does a nice job of making a native Mac version of OpenOffice.org. They do lag at least one release behind the official OpenOffice.org though. There are many options available to you. I hope that you find one taht works well for you. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
Keith Hamilton wrote: I was try to log on so I could redownload excel and the office product I bought but can remember my user name or password. Keith Hamilton Salemburg NC 28385 Email pcman_o_ at yahoo.com You do not need a username or password to download OpenOffice.org. Just point your web browser at http://www.openoffice.org and follow the links to download the latest version. OpenOffice.org is always free to download and you can install it on as many computers as you wish. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] Where did my forum post go?
george wrote: I asked a question in a forum. I did not realize you had so many types of forums. I am lost and can not log-on to find if anyone responded to my question. When I registered I do remember clicking on beginner then typed the question. Typed beginner in the search engine and came up empty handed. Where do I log-on to find my question and see if anyone has responded. Hi George. When you get a reply to a question you asked on the forum, you should (by default) get an email when someone replies. I found your posting on the forum here: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2019&p=8643#p8643 and you have had one reply so far. I hope this helps C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]OpenOffice, not Microsoft Office
James Knott wrote: ETHEL HENDERSON wrote: hello, this site was given to me by someone, and they said i would be able to download microsoft office here, but i want to make sure im at the right site? cause i didnt see that listed nowhere. please advise me as to whether i amm on the right site? is it perhaps listed under another title? help!! i need it this week!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank you, ethel The site www.openoffice.com is where you can download Openoffice, not Microsoft Office. OpenOffice is comparable to Microsoft Office and can read & write Microsoft Office files, other than the new Office 2007 formats. OpenOffice is available for free. Microsoft Office is a commercial package that you have to pay for. James... I think you made a small typo there :-) It should be http://www.openoffice.org not .com. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] OpenOffice.org Wiki - Scheduled maintenance
The OpenOffice.org Wiki is scheduled to go offline for maintenance between 06:00 and 10:00 CET on Thursday 14 February 2008. During this period, you will not be able to access the OpenOffice.org Wiki. The maintenance on the OpenOffice.org Wiki includes: - Upgrading the MediaWiki software to version 1.11. - Updating the existing extensions. - Installing some new extensions. - Adding a new OpenOffice.org Wiki skin. If you have any questions about the scheduled maintenance, please ask here on the mailing list. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can open office be obtained for a Mac, (Apple version)? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) If you go to the OpenOffice.org website and look in the download section you will see that there is a Mac version available. The direct link to the Mac pages is: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/download/index.html C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
Tony Espinoza wrote: I'm interested in trying out OpenOffice Portable. How can I download this app for testing? Thank you. Go to http://www.portableapps.com and download the Portable Apps version. C. -- Clayton Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
