On 10/5/05 9:48 PM, noblarneyzone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the waterfront redevelopment plan is no longer available on the
City's website, I wanted to upload the (9) files comprising the
waterfront redevelopment plan
On 10/5/05 10:19 PM, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All of the files are already online. Anyone can view or download
them at:
http://www.asburymusic.com/plan
Gary, There's a broken link on the page and the formating
Don't worry Werner, I'm done posting for a while - I don't wish to be a
top-3 poster...
Just wanted to point out to you and to others that the thread which has
dominated the past day and a half IS EXTREMELY relevant to Asbury Park.
Maybe in the future we need to include the words Asbury Park to
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Please... give me a break
Further more what does the City need with two buildings.? Operating theatres is not a good idea for Municipal Governments.? Almost every theatre company in New Jersey operates at a loss.? All of them are subsidized as much as 50% of their
Isn't the fact that theater and art districts are in
need of government funding proof that people really don't care
enough about them to pay for them, and therefore proof that they are
not the best tourist draws?
Do you really think that Broadway, Off-Broadway, and Off-Off Broadway really
On 10/3/05 4:02 PM, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If thousands of people truly wish to flock to theater districts, why
in the world would we have to subsidize them? Aren't people willing
to pay for stuff they want?
If millions of people truly wish to drive their automobiles on
On 10/3/05 4:27 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary please don't mistake my question for an assertion. I've taken
no position here. I'm just trying to understand what you are
saying. I still need an answer. Why does a place like Great
Adventure thrive financially with no
On 10/3/05 4:49 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or why do we subsidize the airline industry?
Because they don't have a big enough commercial draw to sustain
themselves.
I don't understand. Why is that okay? People do not HAVE to fly. By
subsidizing the industry and rescuing
On 10/3/05 5:20 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
s for your invite to go through the budget and pick out other
things I dislike, I intend to. I intend to cut completely, PBS, NPR
and the National Endowment of the Arts. Let these freeloaders work
for a living like the rest of us.
I agree that there are certainly pieces of art that I wouldn't call artwork,
although I am sure that some people would think otherwise. I love being
called a cultural elitist because it shows that people aren't paying
attention.
I want art - all forms of art. Express every viewpoint. I'm not
On 10/3/05 5:32 PM, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only people I see outside that theater are drug dealers. They
must be waiting to see West Side Story or Valley of the Dolls. ]:~)
Guess it must be a different crowd on press nights...
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On 10/3/05 7:06 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you not read his post bashing Americans?
You called me unpatriotic. Well, free speech is (currently) still a part of
the constitution. Patriots are supposed to follow the constitution are they
not?
So, if you're against the free
On 10/3/05 5:43 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with you. Let's cut the rest of the pork along with the arts. We
can start with everything Democrat Senator (and former KKK recruiter)
Robert Byrd has ever proposed in his entire career, since he holds the
record for more pork
I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare only a small
reference to Asbury Park
Blue: since you said you didn't want to fund anyone's ideas - right or
left...
How do you feel about our tax dollars funding schools? Personally, I think
it's horrible that my money largely goes
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Break The Bank
Theatres are great I too enjoy them. I will be performing in a community theatre play this holiday season. I also took classes at the Long Branch Equity Theatre. However, why would it benefit a small community like Long Branch with three theatres???
On 10/3/05 7:47 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great point. However there seems to be empirical evidence that
training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on
the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it
art.
And with that you forget
On 10/3/05 8:20 PM, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can I assume from your argument against subsidies that you are against
PILOT programs tax abatements for million-dollar townhouses?
Not only that, but I'm guessing he's definitely against the use of tax
abatements to lure people into
Many things I assume, but I would have to judge each individually. But
short of saying all Americans suck, or that this is a terrible country
to live in, I don't think much. I certainly have not heard any bashing
on this forum. What makes you the arbiter of whether someone's
criticisms of
On 10/3/05 10:58 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To come to your conclusion Dan, you must ignore that Gary didn't
think he was talking about a subject of mere frivolity as you
suggest (Paris Hilton). To Gary, we are worse people than the
Europeans because of their great respect for
On 10/3/05 10:59 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proving Frank, that even back then the people didn't care enough
about the Arts to support it on the open market.
Right... And yet those same pieces deemed controversial or unworthy of
being called art now command millions of dollars
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Title: Re: [AsburyPark] gas pirates
On 9/4/05 8:38 PM, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Put a stop to it by writing the Pres. and ask him to sign an executive Order, freezing the price of gas at $blah-blah! That's all it takes! But will he do it? NO! Bush is out to take
On 9/2/05 11:18 AM, Tony Tedesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry Gary,
I suggested that if anyone wanted to respond about the politics in
my message that your board mught be a more appropriate place, as you
have space reserved specifically for political discussion..
tony
No problem. Feel
If now is not the time to discuss this, when the tradgedy is a
reality and clearly on everyopne's mind, when is? 6 months? 12
months? 100 years? History will be the ultimate judge, but how many
tradgedies must be suffered before it's politically correct to raise
the difficult questions?
Funny how I can get called names like McCarthyist without anyone
crying foul, but if I were to call one of you guys a Commie people
would erupt at me. Double standards are fun!
Actually I'll be the first to admit that so called communism as you
describe the Russians and stuff is far from
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
BTW: Dittohead is a term of endearment among Rushians. If you read it carefully, you'll see that I finessed the sentence with Only to avoid a direct hit, in case you were simply being sarcastic.
The entire idea of Dittoheads show how ridiculous that
On 9/2/05 8:51 PM, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said George Bush
doesn't care about black people. Did he think he was telling us
something we didn't know already?
Aren't you a little surprised ( I was) that it even made it on the air in
Isn't that what we have now? If you don't agree with everything
this
president says or does you have been deemed un-american.
I pay close attention to conservative publications and blogs. I
don't see anyone on our side calling your side un-American. I
constantly see your side
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Academic Symposium on Bruce
On 9/2/05 9:55 PM, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's wrong with being a progressive liberal? I'm one and proud of it! To be liberal is to be FREE!
More power to you! Ive never been afraid to be called a liberal either.
On 9/1/05 10:08 AM, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
better explains a reason for morelocal destinations.
Combo housing and destiantion - with a natural resource.
We also have no motels or hotels on the J shore.
The hotel thing always amazed me about the towns from say Sea Girt to
On 9/1/05 12:37 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to agree with Oakdorf. Even though inexpensive motels and
boarding houses will fill up overnight for a rock and roll show, the
rest of the year they usually house guys just released from the
Monmouth County Jail. Cheap little
On 9/1/05 1:02 PM, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They make enough money in a few months that they are able to close for
the winter. There are a few that now stay open year round. Most have
nice clean rooms with pools!
I'm sure that a few are open year round because I've been to a couple
On 9/1/05 1:16 PM, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The value of real estate here in Monmouth county is pricing out the
moms and pops. There are quite a few for sale in Pt and Seaside as
well. You'd be surprised. Almost everyone has a price tag. Trust me.
A number of years ago, motels were a
On 9/1/05 11:30 PM, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony,
any chance you could bullet point the important parts? Ever since
Tom Cruise told me to stop taking my ADD meds I'm having a hard time
paying attention to long posts on here.
...to the Asburymusic board I go!
I'm not
Don't weep for the old Pony owners or the old Fastlane owners. They
had more money than most any of us on this list will ever have and
made a great deal of it off the backs of people they were paying
$25/night to work. They didn't do anything for Asbury Park, hell they
wouldn't even
To return to the vacation destination this place was in the 40's and
50's? Forget it. It won't happen.
Just one question: When Asbury Park still was doing well in the 60s and 70s
could you have ever imagined the success Point Pleasant would eventually
have as a boardwalk tourist
in nearby Freehold. Why would a new shopping
mall stand a chance when a place like the Seaview Square Mall couldn't
handle the competition?
Lighty, don't give up the good fight. I'm actually involved with an
organization looking to relocate the College Football Hall of Fame
to New Brunswick from
It is you that ignore the facts. Can you show me a copy of the plans
to restore the Casino, CH and Pavillions? I am not asking for actual
perfromance and restoration now mind you, merely the plans? Did the
permits hold these up? How long has it been since the CAFRA was
approved? Not even a
On 8/17/05 5:58 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like they need year-round residential. Good plan.
Sounds like they're a little too far to commute to the jobs in Philly and
way too far to commute to NYC... Unlike Asbury Park.
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On 8/17/05 6:18 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Faster from Ocean City to Philly than Asbury to NYC. At worst it is
the same.
How about by mass transit? I'd bet it's a lot easier going from Asbury to
NYC than Ocean City to Philly. Maybe they have a bus or two, but we've got
that
On 8/17/05 6:45 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary I forget why we were even making the comparison. What were we
talking about?
One of the reasons why Monmouth County's version of the Jersey Shore is more
attractive for people to live year-round is that it's close to NYC and
On 8/16/05 10:28 AM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oakdorf said of Belmar:
With nothing to do with your kids at night - why the hell come??
Nothing to do with you kids in Avon, Allenhurt and Loch Arbor at night
either, yet they come.
I would say they live there. I know when I
On 8/16/05 11:01 AM, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most people in Belmar do not regret (those EAST of main) - as prices
have increased more so then elsewhere.
There is more to a town than property values. Many people regret what's
happened to the downtown area. Sure, everybody's
On 8/16/05 11:43 AM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To answer your question Gary, I would vote for AP to be a year round
residential community.
That of course is the focus of the currnet redevelopment, but I do
believe it is mixed use as well. The goal is 450,000 square feet of
On 8/16/05 11:50 AM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hardly a fair poll considering this group! While we're at it, let's
go to Jon Corzine's campaing headquarters and poll the workers about
who they are voting for in the governor's race.
Why wouldn't this group be fair? It sure looks
On 8/16/05 4:22 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It isn't fair Gary because the question is so skewered. It sets up
an either or scenario that won't ever exist, as even your own post
shows.
Gotcha. But there should clearly be a plan as to which direction is
preferred right? I
In terms of what the majority wants for AP, far be it from me to say
it does not matter. But in one sense, the majority is supposed to
elect officials who create a sensible master plan. In reality,
perhaps that master plan falls short of what the majority really
wants. However, then we
On 8/16/05 5:24 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a 'Stone Pony' in every city in America. From CBGB's to
Lamours in Brooklyn; to the Whiskey in LA. It is not such a unique
thing. There is only one Liberty Bell and it has national
significance not simply local significance.
As the people who lived through the Stone Pony hay day die off, it
will be forgotten. You can't preserve everything, nor should you.
You can't preserve everything, but you can build a major tourism program
around a few things like the Stone Pony and the Casino and Convention Hall.
The Stone
They survived when:
1. The Empress was a legend
2. The Berkley was closed
3. PArk Place burned down
4. XANADu's closed
5. Clover Club
6. Mrs. Jays
etc...etc. and these were just in our day, right BB? What about
Montego Bay, Key Largo and the Parrot...or Spanky's, or the Pier or
The BLue
The Stone Pony, with its name, potential branding power, historic prevalence
in Springsteen mythology (perceived or earned, it doesn't matter, it
exists), make it a significant ASSET and one that should be capitalized on,
rather than discarded glibly as we redevelop our city.
I think Jim
On 8/16/05 9:39 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary said:
But there should clearly be a plan as to which direction is
preferred right?
There already is. The Redevelopment Plan makes no secret that it is
overwhelmingly pointed toward residentional development, shunning
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] WE MUST BLEND RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO
On 8/15/05 9:27 PM, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
make the waterfront work...Take a look at Belmar...Cut back
on
the number of condos planned.integrate more open space..have
some quality
If you get a chance, take a look at the Visitor Books a lot of
merchants have around town. The Visitor's Center on the Boardwalk in
the last 2 weeks has entries from Manchester, England, Houston, TX,
Los Angeles, Unpronounceable, Sweden. Do you honestly think these
people flew halfway
As for all your Bruce facts, you forgot one: Bruce was never, ever
a booked act at the Pony. Not once. Not in the 70's, 80's or 90's.
The first time his name ever graced the marquee was in 2001 for a
benefit show.
I sure hope the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn't find out about
that
That era in AP was awful. No one was ever hurt at the boat show, the
flower show, the ceramics show, etc. that were poplular here when I
was growing up. That's what we are going to see here again. Family
entertainment.
Well I guess the battle will be Asbury Park versus Bradley Beach
On 8/12/05 5:18 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering: Did the Pony ever make a good profit? Butch owned
it first I beleive, and I assume he didn't make it because it did
close. I don't recall who if anyone owned it between Butch and
Dominic. Don't know if Dominic made
First night in AP appeared to be an overwhelming success as there were
plenty of people walking the downtown streets, lots of entertainment. I
can't help but wonder why Cookman Ave is left open for vehicular
traffic?
Why weren't the streets closed? I remember the first few 1st nights
I bet Dan Tom's Ice Cream would put Ben and Jerry's out of
business. Liberal Lime, Conservative Coffee, Independent Slush.
Interesting flavours.
Independent Slush -- come on, you know that being independent should be
the grandest flavor of them all...
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Maybe there was alot more vehicular passing through and not enough
pedestrian traffic to warrent the closing. We don't close off
streets just because there is some pedestrian traffic, once a month.
Actually many towns do such a thing for First Nights. It's one of the
things that brings
Title: Racism
It surprises me that there are people who think Asbury Park doesnt have any race problems anymore just a small city with everyone living alongside each other. Well, they should follow this Yahoo group for a while. The past few weeks have been virtually all race related posts.
On 8/2/05 12:27 AM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't think the discussions on this board in the past few weeks
signify a pretty tightly wound up group?
The question pending Gary is whether AP is a racist place. My answer
is no.
The question I was posing was based on the
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1358
On 7/27/05 4:17 PM, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good point. She has hinted before to some type of conspiracy against the program. That would be huge. Reguardless of opinion, Asbury Partners can't be allowed to get away with
On 7/23/05 12:52 AM, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know of any updates on the movie about Asbury Park for
which filmmaker Christina Eliopoulos was slowly but surely gathering
home movies and other material?
She is wrapping up the film and it will make its debut at the Two River
On 6/28/05 5:24 PM, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, it was only a matter of time:
http://www.freestarmedia.com/hotellostliberty2.html
A developer has requested the town of Weare, NH condemn the home of
Justice David Souter, and allow him to build a hotel on the spot.
You
On 6/20/05 9:44 PM, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there is a paraking garage planed, or was planned, for
behind club paradise? right? and another parking
garage in the downtown, but it has yet to be worked
out? north beach will have contained parking, along
with c8, so i dont
..WHEN JACOBSON BABBLES ABOUT
SUBURBAN VALUES INFILTRATING Asbury what he really is afraid of is
the
infusion of family valueswhich in his warped mind are anti-
gayThat's Jacobson little code for homophobia
I don't know what his true vision for Asbury Park is but I find it very
On 6/6/05 3:12 PM, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joke? Wait till Tommy shows up with his Kill Kasino Now supporters
with their Tillie green paint stripper, Tillie voodoo dolls and graven
images of the waterfront's
With the posts flying back and forth on whether things should be restored in
Asbury or not, I'd love to hear what people think of rebuilding these
structures - whether entirely from scratch or from taking whatever's still
usable and going from there.
I'm talking about structures like the Casino.
On 6/2/05 1:10 PM, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That being said, I think we all want something spectacular for that
site, something that will utilize most of what's there as feasible.
They just don;t build them like that anymore.
You may be right in that anything can be restored. I
On 5/31/05 11:59 AM, Tony Tedesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he also literally called him an asshole, and brought into question
(in a quite degrading way) gary's level of intelligence.
The irony is that he showed his lack of comprehension skills by
repeatedly calling the NJMHOF by the wrong
id like to agree with the boardwalk first comments,
but they really dont make much sence. thats like
looking at a place like atlantic city. they added
their big casinos years back, made the boardwalk a
more exciting place to be. yet the rest of the town
outside of those few blocks by
Asbury Park does not have sufficient debt capacity to bring even Convention
Hall up to current standards, and we could do so only at the expense of our
already tax-burdened residents.
While we believed that Convention Hall alone needed from $8 to $12 million
in repairs, a recent, more thorough
there is no mention of it on the sign on main, and i didnt see
anything in the loacal papers about it. This seems to be the norm
for city sponsored (im not sure that who is sponsoring it) events
down on the waterfront. I think a little more attention to PR and
marketing for these types of
On 5/28/05 6:29 PM, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure there are 'debris nets' but how long before
someone gets hit with something and the city is
sueded?
the city doesnt own the casino, so why would the city
get sued?
Why was New York City so worried about lawsuits from
boreDAN, WHEN ARE YOU EVER GONNA CHANGE THE LAYOUT AND DESIGN
PAL...TALK BORING KID! Now UPSTAGE aint much either but at least it
isn't written from the perspective of a raving loon like Danny!
Look, Upstage Magazine is a publication about the arts. It's not talk radio
politics, it's
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bdwalk Casino/Was Re: gazebos Anyway? the shows over
On 5/24/05 9:01 AM, cathryn.be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw the Casino the other day and it just seems to be falling more more apart. Now in a way I think it looks cool ... there seem to be crows nesting in
My thought is; if this group can focus more on subjective analysis
and process through the lighting issue we can better deal with the
more complex issues we face.
Werner,
I just cast my vote. The reason I hadn't voted before is because I'd assume
most people would want the best looking
On 5/20/05 11:22 AM, David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for the words of support for the New Jersey Music Hall of Fame
(NJMHOF) www.njmusic.org . We are actively seeking and in negotiation for a
spot. I do not think that people are aware of the incredible talent and
skills our
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] D'ANDREA AND COASTER ARE RIDICULOUS
On 5/20/05 10:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like to put up the first $500.00 for the new publication. If Asbury Partners can fund the Coaster to promote the council, small investors and taxpayers
A long time back we had this discussion about nationals or not.
Nationals, like it or not, bring with it the Brand and national
requirements - like operating hours and standards (and prices).
While Harry's may have been cool for about 2 hours - maybe an
Applebee's or Fridays may
I completely forgot about this event. (Long nights with a sleepless
9 week old will do that to you!) How was it? And where is the HOF
projected to be located? Sounds like a great spot for a chunk of
Mental Ward Green wall!
I thought the announcement went very well. We had roughly the
On 5/10/05 2:41 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lightly,
Please consider that Long Branch was never a place that depended
upon Asbury Park - it was always a busier City, and when both Cities
were in their hayday, Long Branch had the wealthier clientele.
As for Belmar over the
On 5/10/05 4:41 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then with your assumptions, please explain to me the decades of
success of places that were never tourist attractions like Sea
Girt, Allenhurst, Monmouth Beach, Avon, Brielle, Loch Arbor. Why
are they not failing as you assert Belmar
On 5/9/05 8:00 AM, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Later tonight, I'll dig up property sales for Keansburg, Howell,
Bradley Beach, Freehold Boro etc from 2001-2005. These places were not
booming for decades, but are now. If you're voting based on your net
worth, you may want to consider
On 5/2/05 11:30 PM, noblarneyzone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a question. I am not looking to get into a debate or an
arguement, so feel free to answer directly to me via my email as well.
If Asbury Park was not so gay friendly, would the City have gotten
this far in it's efforts to
On 4/26/05 3:37 PM, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what happened... they couldn't recreate the car crash that took out the
1st Ave ramp?
The city should make them restore the ramp - to the bandshell. So what
ever happened to the plans for the 5th ave and 3rd ave pavs?
Actually,
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Article about Asbury Partners' plans in Press today
For this summer, the First and Third avenues' pavilions have
been rehabilitated to allow for additional retail shops.
You've got to be kidding! A few cans of cheap paint is
rehabilitation? Am I missing
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Article about Asbury Partners' plans in Pres s today
On 4/13/05 12:19 PM, Tyler, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be so cool if there was some pavillion action this summer. Asbury Partners would be shocked at how much would be forgiven if they did even a
Keeping a close eye on what they're doing in the middle of the night and
full enforcement sounds great; however, the city is basically broke. Where
is the money to pay the cops or security people going to come from?
I think everyone agrees that the original deal was extremely poorly
On 4/12/05 11:10 AM, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have to check the redevelopment agreement to see if there is a
proviso. A possibility is for the city to acquire it through eminent
domain, a fund through donations to pay for it, and then a new
agreement (99-year lease) with someone
On 4/12/05 11:32 AM, theiceman666911 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frankly I wish more time were spent on this board concerning issues
such as property tax and abatements and job creation instead of the
bandshell.
See this is where I don't quite understand the thinking. Things like the
On 4/11/05 11:26 AM, theiceman666911 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kate Mellina and Terry Weldon. Now Weldon is a convicted extortionist
and blackmailer and Mellina continues to defend him. Why? Is this a
school girl crush of something? One could certainly deduce there was
a
sexually/lover
But I ain't giving one nickel for something that APArtners
should be doing as part of the agreement.
I understand what you're saying and I think you may be standing with the
majority of people in town; however, I think that if everyone is set on
forcing Asbury Partners to live up to the
Just a quick reminder that Saturday, April 9th there's a great benefit
concert for the Monmouth County SPCA at the Wonder Bar in Asbury Park. If
you're coming to town for the Garden State Film Festival be sure to stop by
after a few films. Feel free to bring Save The Bandshell material to the
On 4/4/05 10:07 AM, Heather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has some cool stuff. The message boards have some interesting and
shocking things to say about people in Asbury Park, kind of
entertaining, I think.
Sorry about the self-promotion, but another site to check out is
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Nineteen really stupid and nave guys - legends as dinosaurs
On 1/18/05 3:11 PM, Tyler, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At my age I avoid cheese but other than that I agree that the purpose of the Iraq invasion was to have a greater, permanent, presence in the
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Parlaying Historic Look
On 1/3/05 10:29 AM, Tyler, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a New Jersey problem I guess. We don't seem to know the value of historic preservation. Each of the 1,000 house museums in America with an annual budget of $50,000 generated at
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1081
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