Of course not. That would be a rational position and explanation.
Because the guy is a muslim, he must be supporting terrorism when he makes a
statement like that.
On 20 August 2010 09:41, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> I'm not familiar with the man or the quote, but could he have been
> denying that t
s a well known story in the news back then.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:24 AM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Ze
2010 10:24 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
>
>
> Where are you getting that so-called fact from?
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Eric Roberts
> wrote:
>>
>> What are you talking about? The summe
> (although he has denied that Muslims perpetrated the 9/11 attacks).
I'm not familiar with the man or the quote, but could he have been
denying that the people who did it were really Muslim the same way I
deny that Westboro Baptist Church is really a Christian church?
~~
Oh, that $43 million.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/05/17/us.afghanistan.aid/
Powell also called on other nations to send aid to the Central Asian nation.
"If the international community does not take immediate action,
countless deaths and terrible tragedy are certain to follow," Powell
said.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3556
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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:54 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
Good enough for me.
Guilty!
On Thu, Aug 19
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n922/a09.html
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:54 PM
To: cf-community
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Good enough for me.
Guilty!
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010
f-community
> Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
>
>
> Where are you getting that so-called fact from?
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Eric Roberts
> wrote:
>>
>> What are you talking about? The summer prior to the attack,
This was a well known story in the news back then.
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:24 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
Where are you getting that so-called
Bravo Larry.
Stand by the facts!
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Careful, Larry, it almost seems as if you are defending the Bush
> administration :D
>
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http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-english/2009/May/20090505134735atlahtnevel0.5280725.html
In summary:
U.S. covert aid went to the Afghans, not to the Afghan Arabs
The Afghan Arabs were funded by Arab sources, not by the United States
The United States never had any relationship w
: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:17 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
>>
>>
>> Actually the US never funded the Taliban or Al Queda during the Soviet
>> occupation. For one thing the Taliban did not exist
"Nope. Funds never went to Bin Laden. The 9/11 commission was very clear on
that."
The 9-11 Commission? LOL.
Liberals (and some conservatives) have said that the Commission was a cover
up for years. I guess your not one of them. Do you take everything in the
report as fact? I am just curious
---
> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:53 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
>
>
> And you mock foxNews
>
> I used the proper spelling :)
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at
;
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:17 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
>
>
> Actually the US never funded the Taliban or Al Queda duri
Nope. Funds never went to Bin Laden. The 9/11 commission was very clear on that.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "Actually the US never funded the Taliban or Al Queda during the Soviet
> occupation. For one thing the Taliban did not exist at the time. The Taliban
> was
you talking about? The summer prior to the attack, the Bush
> administration sent the Taliban 43 million dollars. That is a fact.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:53 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re
as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
And you mock foxNews
I used the proper spelling :)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Yet the Bush Administration did fund the Taliban the summer prior to the
> 9/11 attack
And you mock foxNews
I used the proper spelling :)
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Yet the Bush Administration did fund the Taliban the summer prior to the
> 9/11 attackshmmm
>
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So sad to see you bought the left wing propaganda. Larry is right and
we didn't fund al Qaeda, the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden. The CIA
released a full report about the claims years ago proving none of the
above received any help at all from the US.
I posted it a few times already but can look it
Did you use those magic glasses to find the word every? I guess we're
all intolerant assholes for asking Iran not to make nukes also? You do
know about the sanctions we intolerant bastards imposed on those
peaceful people? Having sanctions against a country means every person
in it is guilty as ch
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>
> I think it was you who pointed out earlier, this is all just opinion
> anyway - on both sides. My issue right now is, I can understand, even
> though I may not agree with, your opinion, and I may even be able to
> understand why you feel t
The us didn't fund them, but they did indirectly support them with
intelligence and weapons through Pakistan.
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:55 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama sup
Yet the Bush Administration did fund the Taliban the summer prior to the
9/11 attackshmmm
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:17 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero
"Actually the US never funded the Taliban or Al Queda during the Soviet
occupation. For one thing the Taliban did not exist at the time. The Taliban
was formed after the Soviet, then the American withdrawals from Afghanistan
in the mid 1990's."
I didn't post anything about the Taliban or Al Queda
I am sure that Bush I would love to know that his employers hate America.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:05 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010
Yeah but don't most politicians say one thing and then do the opposite?
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
I don't see anyone questioning where the church is getting it's funds
from...
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:01 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
But
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
>> Well don't take this personally because you seem like an intelligent
>> person. It's just that almost everything you post here is stupid. It's
>> the content.
>
> And I have no problem with you holding that opinion, and proving that
> anything
Actually the US never funded the Taliban or Al Queda during the Soviet
occupation. For one thing the Taliban did not exist at the time. The
Taliban was formed after the Soviet, then the American withdrawals
from Afghanistan in the mid 1990's.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
You need to start with yourself and let the others do as they might.
Change starts with you you know.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Good suggestion.
>
> I think the list of repeat offenders needs to practice this.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>>
"And somehow the Bush administration missed all that when they sent him out
to engage is dialog with Muslim countries on behalf of the US?"
So what? At one time, the US funded Osama Bin Laden in his fight against
the USSR.
"Maybe I'm totally wrong though and he is really a secret fundamentalis
Not exactly the radical terrorist supporting group you
and your fellow neo-cons have painted them as.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:38 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
So now you agree that building the mosque should not be an issue?
> We do not know that. You can assume it, I will not.
You did say: If it was a new Christian Church or Jewish temple being built,
it
would be a non-issue.
Correct it's a non-issue but it should be.
~
Because it is true...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:49 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
Why do you even bother stating things like this?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10
How is it bigotry? DO you even know what the word means Sam?
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Maureen wrote:
>> Also love the way you enter a discussion as the authority as if you (I
>> mean your posts) really knew what you were talking about. When Momma
>> Mo talks... nobody really listens.
>>
>
> Really? Well, if you are the definitive voice for the ent
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Glad you think Iran and Saudi Arabia don't have anti-American views.
Nice to see you think that every Saudi and every Iranian have
anti-American views.
Psst, Sam...your prejudice is showing.
--
Scott Stroz
---
You can make things ha
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Well don't take this personally because you seem like an intelligent
> person. It's just that almost everything you post here is stupid. It's
> the content.
>
And I have no problem with you holding that opinion, and proving that
anything I have po
Actually, I was referring to this part (last sentence of the first paragraph)
"Some moderate Muslims agree that the proposed location of the Cordoba
Mosque near Ground Zero in lower Manhattan should be reconsidered."
All the other 'facts' are really just opinions.
I think it was you who pointed
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM, G Money wrote:
>
> Q: How is the project being funded?
>
> In an op-ed published this month in the New York Daily News, Sharif
> El-Gamal, the owner of SoHo Properties, said fundraising efforts for the
> project were just getting started and would be handled wit
Where do I get a pair of those rose colored glasses that let me see
the magic print?
Maybe you mean this part:
According to Schwartz, Muslims are wary of entering the fray: Muslims
are talking but they are talking privately because the issue has
become so divisive that Muslims are concerned abo
Wow...talk about sensationalist headlines funny how when you get
past the large print and pretty pictures you find out that 'some
moderate muslims' oppose the location ( I found that in the smaller
print under the large print).
As Judah so eloquently pointed out, there are not too many issues
If you are too lazy to read click teh link you could have read the url.
I'll make it easier:
"moderate muslims oppose location of cordoba mosque -- on religious grounds"
zing
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> I'm insulting Muslims? Muslims are against them building a mosque clo
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> I'm insulting Muslims? Muslims are against them building a mosque close to
> ground zero?
Sure, some Muslims are. They don't think that it is worth the grief.
Can't say I blame them either. Of course it is just like saying
"Christians are in favo
In his defense he said he strongly supports Shariah but it needs to be
updated. I don't know what his updates are yet.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael. I have no doubt that various public figures say
> different things depending on who is listening. There
Finally the guy I'm parroting put my words in print.
I knew what he was going to tell me to say you see.
I just wish I could have said it as well as he does.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/244080/america-decent-jonah-goldberg
...
Indeed, listening to all of this talk about crowd politi
I'm insulting Muslims? Muslims are against them building a mosque close to
ground zero?
You should knock GWB's balls of your chin for a second. It's affecting your
judgement.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> So a Canadian thinks the American masses are idiots.
>
> You do realiz
Thanks Michael. I have no doubt that various public figures say
different things depending on who is listening. There is plenty of
evidence of that within our own political ranks where a politician
will say one thing at a private fundraiser and something very much
different on CNN.
I only ask bec
Good suggestion.
I think the list of repeat offenders needs to practice this.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> Very understandable. Now one suggestion if I may, look at what you are
> thinking at that point, and the words you are using. I'm not going to
> play psychot
So a Canadian thinks the American masses are idiots.
You do realize you're also insulting the Muslims that you think you're
defending?
Canadian ones too.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/18/moderate-muslims-oppose-location-of-cordoba-mosque-%E2%80%94-on-religious-grounds/
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 a
How bad do things have to be for the media to admit to missing W???
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Get the head idiot to inspire the idiot masses to support the leftie.
Good idea.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Mosque supporters beg George W. Bush to come to Obama's rescue
> By: Byron York
>
>
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The first. I've seen a number of cases where something is said in
English for the non-Muslim audience and the exact opposite is said in
Arabic. The English is for show but the Arabic is what was actually
going on.
The examples I've seen has always been government officials, leaders,
etc. In other
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Mosque-supporters-beg-George-W-Bush-to-come-to-Obamas-rescue-100977179.html#ixzz0wzRzc55B
Mosque supporters beg George W. Bush to come to Obama's rescue
By: Byron York
There's a new argument emerging among supporters of the Gro
Just saw this on Facebook, posted by a former co-worker:
"If you think that putting up a mosque 600ft. from Ground Zero and
having the inauguration on the anniversary of 9/11 is immoral,
inhumane & a complete lack of respect for the memories of all that
perished on that day & their survivors and
To clarify, Michael, are you saying that some people say one thing to
the English-speaking media and another thing to Arab outlets? Or are
you really saying that most (which is what I think of with the words
standard practice) Muslims who preach tolerance and peace in the US
are advocating for the
I guess neither one is really 'better' that the other.
In my mind I always equated 'prejudice' with 'racist', where there was
some level of hatred or dislike involved based on preconceived
notions. I will need to readjust my thinking on those terms.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Sam wrote:
>
Those are intolerant and idiotic bigoted questions.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote:
>
> But, see, for me, THAT is a much better (and more important) argument to
> have.
>
> Is this guy a good guy?
> What is the source of the funding?
>
> That perfectly reasonable question i
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intolerance
1. lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect
contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or
backgrounds, etc.
But you're saying not being able to tolerate Muslims is beter than
prejudging them?
On Wed, Au
This is a standard practice. What is said in English is for sound
bites while what is in Arabic is for what's really going on. The
problem is getting a translation. One source I use is the Middle East
media research institute (http://www.memri.org).
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Jerry Barnes
>From that source, yes, since receiving money from a terrorist or terrorist
organization is currently a federal crime.
If he was accused of recruiting for jihad (as we have seen in MPLS) or
supporting terrorists (as a few mosques in this country have been), then
yes, he should be prevented from b
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> You should check out some of Iman Abdul Rauf's quotes. Especially the ones
> in Arabic magazines, websites, and publications. The ones where he says
> that he wants Sharia to be implemented in the United States. The ones where
> he says
"But, see, for me, THAT is a much better (and more important) argument
to have."
"Is this guy a good guy? What is the source of the funding?"
"That perfectly reasonable question is getting lost in all the other junk."
"It is the same question, though, that would and should be asked about
any la
thanks, I was away in (of all places of course) West Virginia. Near
enough to the Green Bank, West Virginia Radio Telescope that we had no
cell reception. So I missed the start of this.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> CNN poll that started the thread
>
> It was 68%
>
> On Wed, Au
Very understandable. Now one suggestion if I may, look at what you are
thinking at that point, and the words you are using. I'm not going to
play psychotherapist or anything like that. But one thing the data are
very clear on is the relationship between what and how we are thinking
and subsequent
You can probably find all those quotes in his book "What's Right with Islam Is
What's Right with America."
On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "Personally I'm taking what they say at face value."
>
> Good for you.
>
> You should check out some of Iman Abdul Rauf's quotes.
But, see, for me, THAT is a much better (and more important) argument to
have.
Is this guy a good guy?
What is the source of the funding?
That perfectly reasonable question is getting lost in all the other junk.
It is the same question, though, that would and should be asked about any
large con
"Personally I'm taking what they say at face value."
Good for you.
You should check out some of Iman Abdul Rauf's quotes. Especially the ones
in Arabic magazines, websites, and publications. The ones where he says
that he wants Sharia to be implemented in the United States. The ones where
he
Here are a few definitions I found:
intolerance: unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in
opinions or beliefs
prejudice: a prejudgement: i.e. a preconceived belief, opinion, or
judgment made without ascertaining the facts of a case
They are similar, but there are some subtle, but i
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Points taken. I was being attacked and ridiculed from all sides and
> became very short fused.
>
As was I on Monday when I called 70% of my bro's effing idiots. They aren't.
I still don't agree with any of Sam's so-called reasons...but he's not
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> But does it make me an idiot to oppose?
>
Nope, which is why i retracted that. It makes you either:
- Ignorant
- Misguided
- Bigoted
I went with ignorant, and now i'll add "willfully ignorant", for reasons
previously stated.
--
No matter how
"BTW I keep hearing the 70% figure but no citation for it. What poll showed
this?"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/11/cnnopinion-research-poll-august-6-10/
J
-
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with
power have, in time, and by slow operations,
Points taken. I was being attacked and ridiculed from all sides and
became very short fused.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> You had made a very definitive statement when stating a distance, but
> could not supply a reason. Just hostility.
>
> Instead what I am sugges
"I still see no valid reason to oppose the mosqueso either:"
"1) They don't know any better (ignorant). "
"2) They have their facts wrong (misguided)."
"and...that's about it.after that.we're left with
either stupidor...bigoted."
So, now everyone who disagrees with you is
I tend to think intolerance towards Muslims is prejudice.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I'd like to think we can agree that there is a difference between
> calling someone 'intolerant' and calling them 'prejudiced' :D
>
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, G Money wrote:
>
> I have all the information I am entitled too...and more. The track record of
> these people is one of promoting peace and tolerance. Why would I suddenly
> decide they are NOT going to do that with this Mosque?
The flotilla was to promote peac
CNN poll that started the thread
It was 68%
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> BTW I keep hearing the 70% figure but no citation for it. What poll showed
> this?
>
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I saw that about 2 minutes after I sent this.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:15 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
I offered a correction
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:30
I offered a correction
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to build
> there but I certainly understand why people are in an uproar about it.
> It's a bad idea and it's going to cause so many problems that the
> me
I'd like to think we can agree that there is a difference between
calling someone 'intolerant' and calling them 'prejudiced' :D
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> You right, you said intolerant.
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> I guess that is somethi
You right, you said intolerant.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I guess that is something, but, still neither GMoney nor myself said
> that 70% of Americans were prejudiced against Muslims.
>
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Which in turn is good for themselves because then big business fills their
coffers...
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From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:43 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> No wiggle room huh? You have the info you need to make that decision?
> I'm glad you've become such an expert on the matter so quickly.
>
I have all the information I am entitled too...and more. The track record of
these people is one of promotin
You brought out the tape measure first when you said the proposed site
was too close to Grouns Zero, so all I wanted to know was, if this
site is 'too close', how far away would be enough.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Because taking out a tape measure to determine what distan
BTW I keep hearing the 70% figure but no citation for it. What poll showed this?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM, G Money wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
>>
>> I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to build
>> there but I certainly unde
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:37 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Sisk, Kris
wrote:
>
> I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to
build
> there but I certainly understan
Sam...Revisionist history...no...
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:00 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
Still insulting content, not person. Saying the comments are
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> I'd like to see that again, I remember you posting a pr and an op-ed,
> nothing more.
>
Here's the entire release from the AP:
An Islamic Center including a mosque is proposed for a site in lower
Manhattan that's two blocks from where Muslim ext
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:14 PM, G Money wrote:
>
> I was calling everyone fucking idiots on Monday, and my uninformed
> countrymen got lumped in with them.sorry.
>
> Today, I would call them either ignorant, or misguided.
>
> I still see no valid reason to oppose the mosqueso either:
>
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> I never said they were intolerant. I think they have the right to build
> there but I certainly understand why people are in an uproar about it.
> It's a bad idea and it's going to cause so many problems that the
> message they're trying to
You had made a very definitive statement when stating a distance, but
could not supply a reason. Just hostility.
Instead what I am suggesting is that when confronted with that sort of
counter, look at your reasons why. For instance if it the response was
"it feels better, I'm more comfortable wit
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>>> It states the government has stalled.
>>
>> They are completely different agencies dealing with different issues.
>> Not a fair comparison..and you know it.
>
> I don't. I was going by wha
gust 18, 2010 10:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Controversy swells as Obama supports Ground Zero mosque
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris
wrote:
>
> For the record thinking that 70% of the country opposes the mosque
> because that's what the news said isn't bi
Because taking out a tape measure to determine what distance is
acceptable is asking an unanswerable question. How does one arrive at
that? It's being obnoxious. My response was 4 blocks just to point out
that a mosque was already there and it had nothing to do with
intolerance to Muslims as a who
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:44 AM, G Money wrote:
> So you rejected the reasons I gave you from their mouths?
>
> Can I ask why?
The answer was a press release. It wasn't an explanation. So the wife
says they want to bring unity? Hows that working? Let them answer the
real questions not send out
I guess that is something, but, still neither GMoney nor myself said
that 70% of Americans were prejudiced against Muslims.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Well there's this:
>
> GMoney:
> If this number is true, then 70% of my countrymen are fucking idiots.
>
> Which is when y
Did you just call yourself a bigot?
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
> Sam it is bigotry if 1% or 99% of the population felt like that.
> Percentage has nothing to do with attitudes.
>
> The logic you're using is that we all ought to eat sh*t - trillions of
> flys do it.
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>> It states the government has stalled.
>
> They are completely different agencies dealing with different issues.
> Not a fair comparison..and you know it.
I don't. I was going by what was in the article
> Not sure where you get the notion
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Well there's this:
>
> GMoney:
> If this number is true, then 70% of my countrymen are fucking idiots.
>
I was calling everyone fucking idiots on Monday, and my uninformed
countrymen got lumped in with them.sorry.
Today, I would call them ei
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