[LegacyUG] source template for obituary collection?
If anyone has used the United States Obituary Collection on Ancestry, I'd like to know which Source Template you used. Thanks for any help and advice. I'd like to get this right to begin with and not have to re-do, since I already have enough of that on my plate! Dede Holden
Re: [LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates
Bruce and Leo, This is what I was trying to avoid. I have chosen to show only city, county, state in the burial location. (Because that's what the Tutorials taught, and I always wanted to be the teacher's pet!) I may have to change, but that will require that I figure out how to use Dennis' wonderful Ltools, which I've purchased, but haven't taken time to learn. Leo's report is a good one, but it just gives the lat/long of the Burial places NOT the Cemetery addresses. I'll mull this over a little longer and decide which task I want to undertake - changing all my burial locations to include the cemetery name or manually going through the address list to see which ones need lat/long info. Thanks for your input. I did learn a little from both of you about customizing reports, so this was not a totally wasted effort. Always looking for the positive! Dede On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote: This is what I do. - I put the cemetery name in the Location field instead of the Event Addresses - Since most of my ancestors are buried in one very large cemetery, I have created multiple Locations, one for each section of the cemetery (guess I am a location splitter) - So my locations look like this: - USA, Utah, Salt Lake, Salt Lake City Cemetery (E.8.1) (Sort name Utah, SLC Cemetery (E.8.1)) - USA, Utah, Salt Lake, Salt Lake City Cemetery (Park.36.2) To get a list of all cemeteries (and those in these cemeteries) I do the following: - Tag each desired cemetery location - In the Location Report I select Only Tagged Locations under Include and Include Latitude Longitude under Options For those locations without a Lat/Log (or not correct): - In the Master Location List, I find the correct site on the map and right click to set the Lat/Long Then I can create a map of the cemetery and where my ancestors are located in it. I can also click on any (cemetery) location and the map moves to place that location in the center of the screen. Probably not what you are looking for, but it is another way of approaching the issue. This is what I do. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: I think I know the answer to this, but I want to be sure I'm not missing something. Does anyone know of a way to print a report that shows Event Addresses and their map coordinates? I'm particularly interested in the cemeteries listed in my database. I'd like to know which ones I already have and which ones I need to find and enter. I can't find an option to print this info anywhere. I've looked at three different places and can't find a way to do this. 1. Search - Detailed Search 2. View - Master Lists - Address Lists - Events 3. Reports - Event Reports - doesn't even include burials, since it's not considered an Event. I've printed my event address list as mailing labels, but the only way I can find to get the Lat/Long info is to open each address from the list and see if the info is there or not. If anyone sees a way that I've missed, I'd love to hear from you. If you know for a fact that it can't be done, let me know that also. I've searched the archives, and it seems that I'm going to have to create a Cemetery event for each individual, then include the lat/long for each location. Seems a little redundant since that info is already included in the Burial field, but if that's what I have to do, I'll just dig in and get started. I was only going to do that for the large cemeteries where the coordinates are different for different graves. Most of my cemeteries are very small, rural cemeteries and one set of coordinates works for everyone buried there. Thanks for any help/ideas. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates
I think I know the answer to this, but I want to be sure I'm not missing something. Does anyone know of a way to print a report that shows Event Addresses and their map coordinates? I'm particularly interested in the cemeteries listed in my database. I'd like to know which ones I already have and which ones I need to find and enter. I can't find an option to print this info anywhere. I've looked at three different places and can't find a way to do this. 1. Search - Detailed Search 2. View - Master Lists - Address Lists - Events 3. Reports - Event Reports - doesn't even include burials, since it's not considered an Event. I've printed my event address list as mailing labels, but the only way I can find to get the Lat/Long info is to open each address from the list and see if the info is there or not. If anyone sees a way that I've missed, I'd love to hear from you. If you know for a fact that it can't be done, let me know that also. I've searched the archives, and it seems that I'm going to have to create a Cemetery event for each individual, then include the lat/long for each location. Seems a little redundant since that info is already included in the Burial field, but if that's what I have to do, I'll just dig in and get started. I was only going to do that for the large cemeteries where the coordinates are different for different graves. Most of my cemeteries are very small, rural cemeteries and one set of coordinates works for everyone buried there. Thanks for any help/ideas. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Paula, I primarily use the Family Group Report. I've found that this helps me to see how my Events and Sources will appear in other reports. The other reports I use the most are the Ancestor Report and the Descendant Report, depending on who's asking for information. I'm still in Search and Source mode for most of my lines, so I haven't tackled the bigger Book Reports yet. I use the Pedigree Report for my files, just to keep a handle on who fits where in the tree, since I'm working on my family as well as my husband's. I've certainly learned that I tend to make things more complex than they need to be and I'm trying to work on that. That's why I'm willing to learn from the long-time pros in the LUG! Dede P.S. My 24 year old son's favorite is the Ancestor Fan Chart, from Legacy Charting. He didn't really care about genealogy until I printed his for the first time. It was an AHA moment for him! On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dede, Which reports do you use the most? Thanks, --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:56:15 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information Alan, I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census event but instead use an event for each Census? I use the default Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each particular census. I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text field. Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the details, the reports became very cumbersome. So now I handle the census like Michele does. Event = Census Description = US Federal Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is) Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA The Notes look like this: living at 735 Thomas St. Harry Thompson, head, owns home, value $4800, no radio, age 48, married at age 32, born in Miss., father born in Miss., mother born in Texas, conductor for steam railroad Ione Thompson, wife, age 40, married at at 24, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. Ethel E. Whitehead, sister-in-law, female, age 37, widowed, born in Miss., parents born in Miss., employed as saleslady at 5 and 10 store. Nora L. Whitehead, niece, age 17, single, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. In the reports it reads, He appeared on the US Federal census in 1930 living at 735 Thomas St As far as the Source citation goes, I have used the Sourcewriter template and I have a census source for each year, state, and county. I name them like this: Census: 1930 US Mississippi Warren It helps me to find them more quickly when I am citing the Master Source. I also use the Census event for every person listed in the household. It is very easy to copy the event to the clipboard on the Event screen, and then paste to the others. It even pastes the Source, so you enter the info once and then with just a few clicks the event is added to everyone involved. As far as the details go, if it is out of the ordinary, such as an adult who can't read or write, I will note that, but otherwise I assume they can read and write. I also attach a PDF of the census image as a multimedia file to the source detail, but I do not add any detail text or comments. I'm interested in this thread, because if anyone has a better way that produces the kind of reports I want, I'm always willing to learn. Dede Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source
Boyd, In the Source Detail entry screen there is a place for ID of person. I guess I'm more of a lumper when it comes to birth certificates, since most of mine are issued in the state of Miss. Legacy seems to lean toward lumping birth certificates, since the ID for each person is at the Detail level. However, even though you are citing each birth certificate as a Master Source, you can still enter the ID of the person at the Detail level for that Master Source. Does that make sense? Dede Holden On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote: I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source because information from each certificate relates to a number of different people. A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents marriage date and place, and birth informant. Other certificates similarly have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s). I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of fields) There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate relates to. If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports. The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player. These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something? Do I have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a source that tells me whose birth is being recorded? How does anybody else cite a birth certificate? Boyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] An apparent bug?
Jon, I was able to duplicate the problem just as you described. I've not had occasion to use I, because I don't have any II's in my database. It would be frustrating to me, since this is a suffix, and not a given name or surname. You can choose to have Legacy ignore the message for this particular individual. The message I received indicates Name Suffix then goes on to say Given Name or Surname I'm sure this is not a big problem that the programmers will put high up on the list of things to fix, but I did want you to know that it is a Legacy issue and not a particular problem with your individual database. Dede Holden On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM, jraymond...@aol.com wrote: Rich, I've already done that. But the question remains...Why does this message appear? The message is clearly wrong as the given name and surname absolutely have more than one letter in each field. Can someone else duplicate this issue? Jon Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information
Alan, I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census event but instead use an event for each Census? I use the default Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each particular census. I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text field. Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the details, the reports became very cumbersome. So now I handle the census like Michele does. Event = Census Description = US Federal Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is) Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA The Notes look like this: living at 735 Thomas St. Harry Thompson, head, owns home, value $4800, no radio, age 48, married at age 32, born in Miss., father born in Miss., mother born in Texas, conductor for steam railroad Ione Thompson, wife, age 40, married at at 24, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. Ethel E. Whitehead, sister-in-law, female, age 37, widowed, born in Miss., parents born in Miss., employed as saleslady at 5 and 10 store. Nora L. Whitehead, niece, age 17, single, born in Miss., parents born in Miss. In the reports it reads, He appeared on the US Federal census in 1930 living at 735 Thomas St As far as the Source citation goes, I have used the Sourcewriter template and I have a census source for each year, state, and county. I name them like this: Census: 1930 US Mississippi Warren It helps me to find them more quickly when I am citing the Master Source. I also use the Census event for every person listed in the household. It is very easy to copy the event to the clipboard on the Event screen, and then paste to the others. It even pastes the Source, so you enter the info once and then with just a few clicks the event is added to everyone involved. As far as the details go, if it is out of the ordinary, such as an adult who can't read or write, I will note that, but otherwise I assume they can read and write. I also attach a PDF of the census image as a multimedia file to the source detail, but I do not add any detail text or comments. I'm interested in this thread, because if anyone has a better way that produces the kind of reports I want, I'm always willing to learn. Dede On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Alan Jones a...@ajsquared.us wrote: Michele, Interesting so you don't use the default Census event but instead use an event for each Census? I had not thought about that. I guess that works better with the sentence structure and wording? I see for what I assume is your notes section you list each family member that was on the Census. So do you put that same event in for each person so that in your first example the exact same event (notes and all) for B.F. Graham, Sarah Ann, Archibald, Sarah E, Isabella, and William? I figure you would so that a report for any one person would show everything and one knows who the Head of House Hold was etc. I also noted that you did not put down unable to read or write for the kids. I got a kick out of finding my Grandfather on a Census entry and it saying could not read or write when i knew he could then i realized he was 3 at the time of the Census. I truly appreciate the details you provided they give some good examples. How do others handle this? thanks again Michele Alan Michele Lewis wrote: Here is what I do... Event: 1870 United Stated Federal Census Description: population schedule Date: 31 Jul 1870 Place: , Marion County, Mississippi, USA B.F. Graham, age 35, male, white, farmer, value of real state $50, born in MS, unable to read or write Sarah Ann Graham, age 30, female, white, wife, born in MS, unable to read or write Archibald Graham, age 6, male, white, at home, born in MS Sarah E. Graham, age 5, female, white, at home, born in MS Isabella Graham, age 1, female, white, at home, born in MS William Graham, age 9/12, male, white, at home, born in MS, born in Sep Here is one from 1900 for you... Event: 1900 United States Federal Census Description: population schedule Date: 11 Jun 1900 Place: , Marion County, Mississippi, USA James E. Simmons, head, white male, born Feb 1870, age 30, married 11 years, farmer, born in MS, both parents born in MS, can read/write/speak English, owns home free and clear, farm, #81 on farm schedule Corine E. Simmons, wife, white female, born Oct 1870, age 29, married 11 years, mother of 7 children, 6 living, born in MS, both parents born in MS, can read/speak English, unable to write Francis A. Simmons, daughter, white female, born Jul 1890, age 9, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS Mary Simmons, daughter, white female, born Oct 1891, age 8, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS, did not attend school this year, unable to read or write, speaks English Jesse Simmons, son, white male, born Apr 1894, age 6, single, born in MS, both parents born in MS Walter Simmons, son, white male, born Mar 1896,
[LegacyUG] adding Military even bug?
I have installed the latest update of Legacy 7 Deluxe (7.0.0.107). This morning when I tried to add a Military event, I encountered the following problem: Once I type Military, then tab to enter the rest of the fields, the other fields disappear! Only the Notes section remains. Can anyone else duplicate this? I did a File Repair, etc., but this did not solve the problem. If someone else can duplicate this, I'll report it as a bug. Dede Holden
Re: [LegacyUG] adding Military even bug?
Ron and Dennis, Please forgive my original post in rich text - it was quite early and I forget to check that sometimes. My plain text and rich text look exactly the same when I am typing, so it's hard for me to tell the difference. As I stated in my original post, I am using Legacy 7 Deluxe, and I have installed the latest update (7.0.0.107). Here is the problem, step by step: From Family View, click on the Individual. In the Individual screen, Events/Facts section, click Add. For Event, enter Military. Once I select Military, then click Tab to move to the Description, all the fields except Event Name disappear. Other events that I have tried (Census, Obituary, etc.) work properly when I try to add them, showing Event, Description, Date, and Place. Thanks for your help. Dede Holden On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Dennis M. Kowallekkowal...@iglou.com wrote: Ron: Pardon me for replying to you, but the OP did not post in plain text. The OP should check the Event definition to see if she has Show Description, Show Date, and Show Place unchecked. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools *** On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:31:40 +0100, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Dede, What version are you using please? Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location
Ruth, Quick reply before I go to work - I just checked and cannot duplicate this problem. I do have the latest update 7.0.0.103 and I am using Windows XP. I recall another thread that mentions a problem similar to this just recently, (may still be a current thread) and I think it was associated with Vista. You might check the most recent archives to see what was said. Dede Holden On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Ruth Nerud baber...@worldnet.att.net wrote: What's happened to the Location Master List? It's not in alpha order and if I try to add or change a location I get an Error Msg 3019 (not found in Online Troubleshooting Help) and Legacy closes down. If I click on Show List, I get nothing. If I click Close, it locks up. Urgh! Ruth A. Nerud baber...@worldnet.att.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist vs. GedStar Pro
John, How does this work with Legacy? Any trouble syncing between the two? Dede Holden On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM, John Brockman john.w.brock...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using GedStar Pro on a Palm Treo for the past several months. It works great, especially for research trips when I don't want to take a laptop. And it's always with me, so I can look up information any time, any place. Very handy when I go to my cousin's house and she starts asking me about our family tree. John Brockman On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: I've just read Bring your Legacy file with you on the Legacy News page. Does anyone in the group have experience with Pocket Genealogist or GedStar Pro? I have a Palm ES2, but I am contemplating the purchase of a new cellphone with the thought of reducing my gadgets so that I just have one mobile device. Is there anyone on the group using either one of these programs on a cellphone? If so, which one, and how well does it work with Legacy? I would like to be able to carry my information with me and be able to easily sync with my desktop computer when I return home. I understand that Pocket Genealogist may be the best, but I'm restricted to ATT as my carrier, but I'm not so sure about the quality of the Windows mobile based cellphones. Or - would it be better for me to keep my Legacy on GedStar Pro on my Palm and have a separate cellphone? I hope this will be considered on topic, since my whole purpose is being able to carry Legacy with me in the field. Any advice? Thanks in advance, Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Italics
Good morning, Barb, You've simply indicated that the person's sex is unknown. Once you select the M or F button on the Individual's screen, all should be well. Dede On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote: Hello Legacy Users, Somehow I touched the wrong key and now have a name in italics. How do I remove the italics so the name reads in regular print? I have Legacy Deluxe. Thanks Barb Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Batch enter event
I agree with Jenny. The Event Clipboard is a great tool. It even copies the Source Citation with one click. That's how I would proceed. Dede On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jenny M Bensonge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: 1familytree wrote I searched the archive but could not find a reference to batch creation of an event for a selection of individuals (I.e. create an event called tombstone for all persons tagged #9, date = after death date (take death sort date and change prefix 00 to 40 and update burial sort date ) place = Cemetery name. I thought I remembered seeing a request like this before but I couldn't find it in the archives. Any help to accomplish this would be greatly appreciated. I think the best you can do would be to create a search list of all the people you wanted, create the Event for one of them and then use the Event Clipboard to copy and paste (with amendment where necessary) to everyone else in the search list. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist vs. GedStar Pro
I've just read Bring your Legacy file with you on the Legacy News page. Does anyone in the group have experience with Pocket Genealogist or GedStar Pro? I have a Palm ES2, but I am contemplating the purchase of a new cellphone with the thought of reducing my gadgets so that I just have one mobile device. Is there anyone on the group using either one of these programs on a cellphone? If so, which one, and how well does it work with Legacy? I would like to be able to carry my information with me and be able to easily sync with my desktop computer when I return home. I understand that Pocket Genealogist may be the best, but I'm restricted to ATT as my carrier, but I'm not so sure about the quality of the Windows mobile based cellphones. Or - would it be better for me to keep my Legacy on GedStar Pro on my Palm and have a separate cellphone? I hope this will be considered on topic, since my whole purpose is being able to carry Legacy with me in the field. Any advice? Thanks in advance, Dede Holden
[LegacyUG] User ID field
I've searched the archives and can't find that this has been addressed. I have just updated to the version 7.0.0.100. Now I've realized that I have to choose between seeing the User ID and the RIN on the Family View. What? I use both of these fields for two separate numbers, not related, and can't understand why that option is no longer available. I'm thinking it was probably because the Temple and FamilySearch info has been updated/added, but I'm a little distressed at this new development. Any chance that Legacy will rethink this and give us back the option of seeing both of these numbers? Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] user ID vs RIN update
This is a little strange. After my last post, I went back to Legacy and played with these Options some more. Now my User ID field is back on the Family View, even though I have selected only RINs. Is this a qwirk that comes from the new update and once you go in and play with it, the User ID field returns? Anybody else? I know it wasn't there at first because I was going to enter a User ID number and there was no place to enter it until I changed the options. I hope someone can validate my sanity. I have been working too many hours lately and may need a rest! Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] User ID field
I've figured it out. The RIN displays by the name and the User ID is the bottom field I've chosen, just below Birth, Baptism, Death, and Burial. Don't quite know why it disappeared after the update was installed, but all is well now. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:32 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote: Graham, That is the only way which I recollect being able to display both RIN and UserID at the same timw. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] User ID field Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:18:48 +0100 How quickly we possibly forget but I don't recall being able to see both on Family View unless you had customised labels. However you can still have customised labels to show UserID and the RIN/MRIN still shows at the bottom of the screen. On the Individual's screen you can choose UserID in the bottom left field and of course the RIN shows at the top of the window. Did you have it configured differently? Graham -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: 28 July 2009 11:27 To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] User ID field I've searched the archives and can't find that this has been addressed. I have just updated to the version 7.0.0.100. Now I've realized that I have to choose between seeing the User ID and the RIN on the Family View. What? I use both of these fields for two separate numbers, not related, and can't understand why that option is no longer available. I'm thinking it was probably because the Temple and FamilySearch info has been updated/added, but I'm a little distressed at this new development. Any chance that Legacy will rethink this and give us back the option of seeing both of these numbers? Dede Holden _ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surity Level Reports
Ross, I took this on as a challenge. I searched everywhere in the program and could not find this as an option anywhere. It would be good to be able to search this way, but I can't come up with one using only the Legacy program. I'm sure our friends who are proficient in Access could figure out a way, but I'm not at that level. Sorry I couldn't help, but I wanted you to know that I tried. Dede Holden On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Could be one of those custom reports (searchprint)? Or maybe an option on the Source Citations report to filter on surety level? --P --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Ross Chapman ross.chap...@rogers.com wrote: I seem to remember that there was a report out there for all sources that have a surety level of 2 or less. Am I mistaken or can I just not find the report I am looking for? Ross Chapman Toronto, Ontario, Canada ross.chap...@rogers.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Repository of Photos and other items
Cathy, To answer the first part of your question, I do have a repository Personal Possession of the Author. I use this for any original document, book, etc., that I actually own and possess. To answer the second part, I just did a quick test on one of my citations of a book that is in the local library. I have a copy of the page that I am citing. I entered a Comment in the Source Detail, copy of this page in the author's possession. When I ran the report, I chose End notes, but I unclicked the option to combine multiple citations into one paragraph. The comment appeared in both instances of the citation. If I were you, this is what I would do. Dede Holden On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:27 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I have two examples on my thinking. Over the years I have made photocopies 0f the US Census in at least 2 NARA, over a dozen libraries/repositories, (including Ancestry and LDS). I decided to use the NARA in Washington DC for all. Anything I created (photos, etc.), I am also the repository. All books I own are the same. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net Subject: [LegacyUG] Repository of Photos and other items To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 7:52 PM I want the end notes to reflect that I have copies of Vital Record Documents (i.e. Birth Certificate), books that I own which I am citing as a source, photos of grave markers that I am citing as a source, etc. The rationale is so the reader knows I have the actual document and also that they can obtain a copy from me as well as from the original repository. For some, I am the only repository (i.e. a photo of a grave marker). In this case I am considering listing me as the repository. Does anyone have an opinion or suggestion? For others, a library or government agency is the actual repository plus I have a copy. However, I can't use 2 repositories. Does anyone have an idea for where to note that I have a copy? I tried putting it in the Comments box for the source and checking to print it on reports every time, but the Comment Box information only prints the first instance and not the second time it is listed in the end notes so it looks like I don't have a copy of any document citing the second entry even though it's the exact same source entry. I hope this isn't too confusing. Does anyone else note in the source citation that they have a copy of the document or book in their possession? Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Linking files in Picture Gallery
Ron, Are you adding them as pictures under Source Detail (or even as the Master Source)? And when you add them, are you adding them as Pictures or Files? And, are they saved as jpg or tiff or some other picture file, OR are they saved as pdf or doc files? I've just recently had to redo several links, because they were pdf files that I accidentally added as pictures, rather than files. You might want to run this report - Options, Customize, Locations, Test All Multimedia paths. This will give you a report of any missing links. You can then check each file individually to determine why you are not able to see them. Hope this helps. Dede Holden On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ron And June Weeks rdwe...@alphalink.com.au wrote: Hi, I have created many links to census pages in the picture gallery using 'files'. When clicking on these links, it displays the information in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, so far, so good. What I then did was to run msconfig to find out why my computer was taking so long to boot up. I disabled all the startup items that I thought was unnecessary for what I needed. Then going back into Legacy, I found the link to my census pages were disabled, so I re-enabled all the start-up items. I still cannot view the census pages!! Can knowledgeable person advise me so I can couple them back up? Please. Ron Weeks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts
Veronica, I have been working on the same thing for my husband, as we are having a family get together which will include the descendants of both sets of his grandparents. I ended up printing two separate descendant charts, one for each set of grandparents. I couldn't come up with a way to include both. If someone else has an idea, I'd like to hear it, too. Dede Holden On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Veronica Manalvo ronnie_...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm a relatively new user of Legacy Family Tree v7.0 and I have a query in regards to charting. What I am trying to do essentially is create a standard descendant chart but with two groups of descendants merged on the one chart - that is, I am trying to get the descendants of both of my grandparents on the same chart, where the common link is the marriage of my parents. I can create the separate charts for each set of my grandparents easily enough but I can't seem to combine them together, by copying/pasting or otherwise. Does anyone have any tips on how I can achieve this, or if it is even achievable in Legacy Charting v7.0? Thanks in advance. Veronica. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, You might have a look at Report Options, on the Sources tab. Sometimes I've had a problem when I've accidentally clicked If an event has multiple citations, combine them into one paragraph. Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Before you try to duplicate, check out my corrected description. I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages. The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about how I set this up in the first place...). This is a SW source: Cemetery records Grave markers,etc. Online images. The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field. Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that. Thanks, --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Paula, Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors etc.) I'll have a look. Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? Ron Ferguson
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Unable to copy scanned documents into Legacy events or Notes
Bill, I've been following this thread with interest. I must say I agree with Janis. Transcribing the documents, even just the essential parts, has helped me more than once to put some pieces of the puzzle together that I might not have seen if I were simply scanning and saving. Just my FWIW. (for what it's worth) Dede Holden On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net wrote: Bill, You should consider the possibility that the exercise of transcribing, and then abstracting, the document(s) would be beneficial in a number of ways. I always find that I learn so much in the process of transcribing. I see things that I didn’t notice before, and somehow I just absorb the document in a more meaningful way. I do have OCR software, and I do not use it (for genealogy) at all. Do a Google search for genealogical transcription and abstraction guidelines, for method. The NGS and BCG sites offer help on this subject. In brief: Preserve original spelling. You can insert your corrections in parenthesis, if required for clarification. There are divided opinions about line breaks, but I prefer to break each line where it breaks in the original document, unless it is so lengthy that the line breaks become absurdly cumbersome. The transcription should carry your name, contact address (at least email), and the date. The transcription should carry a source citation. If it is a deed, it should carry the date that the deed was drawn, the date that it was proven or acknowledged (or the dower examined), and the date of filing or recording. Consistency is the key, but some people use italics for anything not in the body of the document, and regular type face for the transcription material. If it is a printed form, which has been filled in by pen, you may choose to distinguish the printed portions from the penned portions by underlining the latter, or using two different fonts. Sometimes there is no quick fix – and sometimes, the quick fix isn’t really a fix. Just take a deep breath, and begin to read and understand your documents. Sorry if this seems pedantic – it is genuinely not my intent. Just trying to pass along what it has taken me many years to learn (and am still learning). It’s late, I’m tired, and I have probably left out some very important stuff. That’s where the Google search comes in. g Good luck with the project. Lovely to have too many documents! Janis Walker Gilmore On 5/8/09 3:42 PM, Bill Rhodes wlrho...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my request for help and advice. I have spent the last day or so checking them all out. To Ward Carl - no, OCR is not included in my Scanner which is an Epson Perfection 4490. To JLB, the docs I want to copy are way to long to do a split screen and type. That is what I am trying to avoid. And to Dennis, I have scanned as jpg. and saved to file but cannot do a cp - not possible, and I do not want to insert an image into Legacy.To John R., I checked out IrisPro v.10 and it looks very good, but as you say it is spendy - way too much for my budget. To Grover O. Gene Y. - I downloaded the Free OCR and it is easy to use and it works. The only drawback is that (at least with old copies of old docs) it comes up with some strange words symbols which require a lot of correcting and cleaning up, but I may be able to live with it. To Dennis K. the Abbyyusa frexpress at $50 for the download version looks good. My question is, will it or any of the other for sale OCR's do a better job than the FreeOCR, or do they all work the same and produce innaccurate copies that have to be cleaned up? If Abbyy frexpress produces fairly clean accurate copies it might be worth the $50. I would be interested in hearing your comments or suggestions. Thanks again for eveyone's help - really great!! Bill Rhodes On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Bill Rhodes wlrho...@gmail.com wrote: I have somehow lost my original email and the replies to it, but I was told by someone that to get scanned docs into Legacy I need Optical Reader software (which makes sense) and that I could find free ones for download. After a lot of searching on Google I was never able to find completely free software - free usually becomes free trial period or donation required, etc. I finally ordered SIMPLE OCR - the free version with an obligatory $25 donation. After downloading installing - it does not work! I called them and they do not support the free version. After some discussion they agreed to refund the $25. So I am back to square one. I really do not want to re-type all these records if there is a better way. I would welcome and all any further ideas or suggestions. How do the rest of you folks do it? Bill Rhodes Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: [LegacyUG] Clipboard
Ruth, I just checked this. You can do it from the name list. Click on the sources tab. Highlight the source you want to copy and click the icon just below the sources field to copy it to the clipboard. Then highlight the new event you want to add this source to. Click on the blue horizontal line at the top left of the Name List box. Dede On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Ruth Nerud baber...@worldnet.att.netwrote: When I am in the Name List and click on the Sources tab, there is an icon at the bottom right to Copy to Clipboard. I highlight one of my Sources, click on the icon, move to another field, say for instance, Burial, I thought I could paste the Source I copied to the clipboard, but it won't let me do it. Does this feature not work? Ruth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] source formatting on Family Group Report
I have a question regarding source formatting on the Family Group Report. I'm using the Sourcewriter Family Group Sheet-Privately Held template. I have source detail and a comment on the detail. Why is there a semi-colon inserted at the beginning of the detail text and the beginning of the comment text? There is already a semi-colon at the end of the source citation. (I'm not real sure about this semi-colon, either.) If I skip a line at the beginning of the detail, the semi-colon appears on a line by itself. If I don't skip a line, a line is skipped in the report anyway, and another semi-colon appears at the beginning of the detail. I know that one of the solutions is to use the Basic Source writer, but the Sourcewriter feature is one of the reasons I am a Legacy user. I am a relative newbie when it comes to citing sources and there are so many options that I don't want to have to stop and plow through EE every time I cite a new kind of source. I also don't want to use the override feature, unless that is my only option. But I don't think I should have to use the override, as this is not an unusual source citation. It seems to me that this might be a small bug. Can anyone else duplicate this? If not, I'll completely delete the source and re-enter it to see what happens. Thanks for your help. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] source formatting on Family Group Report
Connie, I am getting two semi-colons in a row, one after the citation, and then another one before the detail. I have determined that I am getting two because I have not put any information in the Comments section of the template. If this is the way this template is going to produce, I will have to find a work around, too. Anybody got any ideas? Thanks, Connie, for your willingness to help. Dede On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com wrote: Dede Holden wrote: I have a question regarding source formatting on the Family Group Report. I'm using the Sourcewriter Family Group Sheet-Privately Held template. I have source detail and a comment on the detail. Why is there a semi-colon inserted at the beginning of the detail text and the beginning of the comment text? There is already a semi-colon at the end of the source citation. (I'm not real sure about this semi-colon, either.) Dede, There are many templates in which Legacy inserts punctuation for you. Yes, it inserts a semi-colon before the detail text or comments, probably based upon a slightly inaccurate reading of the Family Group Sheet model in Evidence Explained, p. 108. Or are you saying you are getting two semi-colons in a row? (I'm only getting one). I myself do not use this template, and am still searching for a usable replacement that does not require an override, for another reason. The EE model on p. 108 is clearly based upon a Collection, not an individual FGS. The template assumes that the author/compiler of the group sheet and the current owner are one and the same person. It does not allow me to indicate that Jane Doe compiled/authored a group sheet in 1994 that Sam Smith owns in 2009. If anyone has found a workable solution for this problem (without using the Basic Source system or an override), please let me know!!! Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] merging and restoring temporary backup questions
I need help! I have just done a simple manual merge of two individuals. I did a backup, not to my flash drive, but just the temporary backup. I remember some recent conversation about this type vs. the zipped backups. Once I completed the merge, I printed an individual report to be sure all the information is there. I got very interesting results. There are sources listed on the report that DO NOT appear on the individual's list of sources. That's when I realized that when you perform a merge, you need to check ALL the tabs, not just the first screen. (Just a word of warning to those who might make the same mistake I have made!) Now, for the question. I've found the backup. It's a .usr file. But when I try to restore the family file, it will only allow me to look for files with a .zip extension. What do I need to do? I don't want to go back to the full backup I did last night, because I've done quite a bit of work this morning. I can add the sources to the individual if I have to, but I'm thinking this backup should work. Any advice will be appreciated. Dede Holden
[LegacyUG] Re: merging and restoring temporary backup questions
Never mind. I just realized that the sources are coming from the father's information, not the individual that I merged. I've also realized that the temporary merge backup is only good as long as you don't close Legacy. That means you don't perform a restore, you just undo the merge. If this is not exactly right, I hope someone will let me know. It is a little misleading, if you're not familiar with the difference in the two kinds of backups. Lesson learned...when performing a merge - check ALL the tabs in the Merge window, not just the first one. If anyone else has merge/backup advice, I'd like to hear about it. Dede On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: I need help! I have just done a simple manual merge of two individuals. I did a backup, not to my flash drive, but just the temporary backup. I remember some recent conversation about this type vs. the zipped backups. Once I completed the merge, I printed an individual report to be sure all the information is there. I got very interesting results. There are sources listed on the report that DO NOT appear on the individual's list of sources. That's when I realized that when you perform a merge, you need to check ALL the tabs, not just the first screen. (Just a word of warning to those who might make the same mistake I have made!) Now, for the question. I've found the backup. It's a .usr file. But when I try to restore the family file, it will only allow me to look for files with a .zip extension. What do I need to do? I don't want to go back to the full backup I did last night, because I've done quite a bit of work this morning. I can add the sources to the individual if I have to, but I'm thinking this backup should work. Any advice will be appreciated. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Run Time Error 5
Dave, I have already sent in the bug report on this. We discussed it a few days earlier, as others have confirmed the same problem. Hope this helps, Dede Holden On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this Run Time Error '5' Run Time Procedure Call or Argument since the latest update to Legacy 7.0.0.89? This occurs when adding a new Source with the SourceWriter. All you have to do is add a w in the Url field. This error occurs and after clicking OK, Legacy shuts down. I have had to resort to putting the url in Notepad and coping it into the Url field in Legacy. That works. But you cannot start typing www. Or you get this error. Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com
Vicki, I have used these Family Trees from Ancestry. I use the Family Group Sheet template in Source Writer. If the author's name is given, I will use it. If not, I use the Ancestry user name that is posted with the Family Tree. I choose to use online images since that is where they are, even though they're not scanned images, such as census pages. I also put in a comment explaining why I've used this family tree, even if there are no sources. The last one I used included some of the same family pictures that I have in my collection, so even though I don't know the author, I'm reasonably certain that our families are related! Hope this helps, Dede Holden On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:16 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: Since I use Ancestry.com as the repository of the record creator, and in the Source fields use both names, I would list it as an authorless document, the same way I treat Newspaper clippings with no date or paper name. But of the about 20 I had at one time, I mhave located 18 of them. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com To: Legacy Email List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:14 PM I found what Ancestry.com calls a Family Tree on their website. It isn't really a family tree but a short list of related people. I looked in the archives and see that many people suggest putting Ancestry.com as a repository and the collections found on Ancestry (such as WWI Draft Registrations, etc) as the source. But what about something less straight forward, like the family tree I found on Ancestry? How would I source this? No author is listed, nor contact information, it is simply a short list of related people under the title Smith Family Tree. In the Add a New Source, Source Writer's family tree and family group sheet options do not offer me a choice of medium other than Online Images and Privately Held. Since the list is not really what would be considered an online image (such as a census page image would be) and the list is not privately held, how would I source this list of related persons that Ancestry calls a family tree? Any ideas? Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
Thanks to all - there are some good ideas here. But now it's Monday and back to work, so I'll have to try this when I can squeeze in time during the week. Judy, I like your idea. I'll try it to see what happens. Jane, I thought of tagging, as you suggested, I was just wondering if there was an easier way. Rich, if Judy's idea doesn't work like I want it to, I'll certainly consider the User ID setup, although that seems like a little more than I want to bite off, unless there's an easy way to mass assign UIDs? As soon as I have time to try these ideas, I'll report back and let you know what works best for me. It seems that this is something that others might be interested in also. Thanks again to all! Dede in springtime Mississippi! On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:54 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I haven't tried it, but have you considered setting up a User ID system. You could use Jnsn001-Jnsn999, Smth001... Then they will sort in the individual index, and reports can only UID, or mixed with RIN. Good luck, Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, JCTripp jctr...@charter.net wrote: From: JCTripp jctr...@charter.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:46 PM Dede, I don't have the Missing Sources search in ver 6, so I am just imagining here, but could you tag those individuals from your search results and then use the Index view to customize columns to show minimal info but include tag # you selected from the Missing search and spouse MRIN, and parent's MRIN etc. If you don't get too greedy, you can narrow column widths to see all in one screen width. Of course, you'll have to use page down. When you find an individual with both tag MRIN number, select Family View, add your sources, and untag that individual. Please note that I am replying with this convoluted work around because although I have tagged individuals, I haven't read about or tagged marriages. Seems you should be able to tag all marriages with any individual that has the tag # given by your initial Missing sources search and use that list. Regards, Jane Tripp - Original Message - From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. I want to sort by MRIN, not RIN. I have husbands and wives that are not even close to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. The number option button sorts by RIN. I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work through those with no sources. Thanks anyway, Dede Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] missing sources
I need advice. My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who don't have ANY source. Yes, I confess. In the past I added names and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better job of sourcing as I add. However, I still have quite a few (hundreds) who don't have any source. I've looked at the Missing Sources report. Here's my dilemma. The report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't have a last name. Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work on the whole family at one time, going down the list? Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can see at a glance who needs work? Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources? What is the best systematic way to accomplish this task? Thanks in advance for any advice. Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
I believe there is a bug in some of the Sourcewriter templates in the newest update. I've already submitted a bug report, but I wanted to save all of you the worry if this happens to you. For some reason, when you are entering the specifics in Step 2 of the templates, you will get a Runtime Error '5': Invalid procedure call or argument. The two specific templates I've had a problem with are the Artifacts template and the 1900 census template. When you click OK, Legacy closes. I can reproduce the error, so I've submitted a bug report. The Family record template worked fine, so I don't think it's a problem specific to my computer. BTW, running Windows XP on an HP laptop. If someone else tries this and gets a different result will you let me know? Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
So, back to my original question -- Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN? That would help to work on one family at a time. Thanks, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We are still finding new stuff. Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. I want to sort by MRIN, not RIN. I have husbands and wives that are not even close to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. The number option button sorts by RIN. I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work through those with no sources. Thanks anyway, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Your Search List is a Name List like the Index. As in the Index, Click the #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box to the right of each button. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Dede Holden To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources So, back to my original question -- Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN? That would help to work on one family at a time. Thanks, Dede On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We are still finding new stuff. Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search. Carolyn I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry through. Rich in LA CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re Pedigree chart of Direct Line Ancestors
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Chy Maen chym...@start.ca wrote: /This question is similar to Diane's I'd like to print out a simple Pedigree line of Direct Line Ancestors (grandparents, no siblings etc.) -- the same sort of chart that appears on screen when one hits pedigree on the task bar. I did a trial run at this several times but when it comes to preview that mini-printer on the preview screen flies out what looks like hundreds of pieces of paper and after waiting a full five minutes the last time it was till tossing out pages and not 'complete Compared to some of your DB's mine is miniscule (only a bit over 20,000 folks) and not all direct line grandparents of course, tho some lines are back to the 700's (I know many of you are way past that too). So I wondered if anyone might tell me how to do this - horizontally, not vertically (have done those okay) using ordinary 8 1/2 x 11 paper (glue it all together later) Somewhere while reading tips I saw and now can't find instructions for a circular pedigree chart which was suggested as a good way of finding those straight line ancestors whose lines are shorter than the rest thus need working on - made sense but I thought the straight horizontal line Pedigree might show the same and I wanted to do this for my grandson (get him interested in history!) - and also for me to just be able to visualize things better. Thank you for any assisance. Kate To answer the last part of your question about the circular pedigree chart... Across the top menu in Legacy, choose Reports, then scroll down to Legacy Charting. This will open the Legacy Charting program. Choose the Full Fan report. I love this report for showing where the holes are. I've printed the pages, and taped them together to hang over my filing cabinet, so I can quickly see at a glance where my research ends. I do love the color coding, so I can tell which line I'm seeing. Hope this helps. Dede Holden
Re: [LegacyUG] Re Pedigree chart of Direct Line Ancestors
One more thought - my 23 year old son was never interested much in genealogy until he saw the fan chart. Maybe this is just what you need to pique your grandson's interest. Dede Holden On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Chy Maen chym...@start.ca wrote: /This question is similar to Diane's I'd like to print out a simple Pedigree line of Direct Line Ancestors (grandparents, no siblings etc.) -- the same sort of chart that appears on screen when one hits pedigree on the task bar. I did a trial run at this several times but when it comes to preview that mini-printer on the preview screen flies out what looks like hundreds of pieces of paper and after waiting a full five minutes the last time it was till tossing out pages and not 'complete Compared to some of your DB's mine is miniscule (only a bit over 20,000 folks) and not all direct line grandparents of course, tho some lines are back to the 700's (I know many of you are way past that too). So I wondered if anyone might tell me how to do this - horizontally, not vertically (have done those okay) using ordinary 8 1/2 x 11 paper (glue it all together later) Somewhere while reading tips I saw and now can't find instructions for a circular pedigree chart which was suggested as a good way of finding those straight line ancestors whose lines are shorter than the rest thus need working on - made sense but I thought the straight horizontal line Pedigree might show the same and I wanted to do this for my grandson (get him interested in history!) - and also for me to just be able to visualize things better. Thank you for any assisance. Kate To answer the last part of your question about the circular pedigree chart... Across the top menu in Legacy, choose Reports, then scroll down to Legacy Charting. This will open the Legacy Charting program. Choose the Full Fan report. I love this report for showing where the holes are. I've printed the pages, and taped them together to hang over my filing cabinet, so I can quickly see at a glance where my research ends. I do love the color coding, so I can tell which line I'm seeing. Hope this helps. Dede Holden
Re: [LegacyUG] CIRCULAR PEDIGREE CHARTS
Mary, Since they are in Legacy Charting, I think that is correct. Dede Holden On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Mary Searles searle...@bellsouth.net wrote: Are the circular pedigree charts only in Legacy 7? Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals
Jenny, Making a To-Do category for unconnected people is a great idea! There are several people I am almost sure belong to my family, but I'm not quite sure how they are related. Keeping their names in a To-Do list category will help me to find them all in one place quickly. Thanks for this great application of the To-Do list. Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Judy wrote I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so. When I create a Census Event I put the details of each individual in the Description, but in the Notes I mention the complete household, for example The household comprised Joe Bloggs 531, his wife Fanny Adams 604, their son Joseph Bloggs 883 and boarder Jane Doe. Because my family file is not huge (3,000) and I am frequently reviewing the main people of interest I find that is sufficient for me to find these other people if they crop up again in another context. I also have a pretty good memory for names in my file! However, I appreciate that this is rather a casual approach and would not suit someone who has an enormous file or a great many other people A few times in the past on LUG, people have mentioned the wish for Legacy to include a General Notes field, separate from the Notes attached to each Individual, where one could enter information relating to the whole file. Such a facility would be useful for recording the names of other people who may prove to be of interest. But it occurs to me that one could also create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across them. If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
To all on this Dropbox thread: I am watching this topic for two reasons: I am interested in Dropbox and I am also contemplating a new computer. Right now I am using XP and I know if I buy a new computer, it will have Vista. I am wondering if Jim's problem might have to do with the fact that he is running XP on one computer and Vista on the other? Is anyone else using Dropbox in this scenario and, if so, how is it working? Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:47 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I found this problem, when on my old Windows 3.1 CPU, if I left it running overnight, and decided my mainframe got confused after too much 'calculating', meaning too many big reports without logging off/restarting so I got used to turning it off every night, and have continued with my laptop for no reason. I was told way back, that computers each have a finite number of times to turn on and off before they die. I am backed up, if I need to buy a new one (hope I am not infuriating any gremlins). Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:32 AM I am using Legacy v. 7.0.0.81 and DropBox on Windows XP (on desktop and laptop). I have never encountered error 91. I have delayed updating to .86 because I thought I noticed that err. 91 started then (I may be wrong). But since I was not having that problem decided to stay with tried and true. Also I have no media in my Legacy program yet. Erin - Original Message - From: DimJim dimji...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP 1 VISTA 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - Error opening data base Run-time error '91': Object variable or With block variable not set It then closes the Legacy program. This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try to start Legacy from the start program. This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately opened on the same machine or the other machine. One other strange thing ~ if I set the Options Customize Starting File to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File Automatically. Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash driver forth and back between the two machines. Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net wrote: Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Stop Messages about DropBox - Warning from LUG Administrator
Jim, I am deeply sorry. I have just posted a message to the thread BEFORE I read this warning. Please do not remove me from the list. My inbox lists messages in most recently received order so I didn't get to this one before I got another one about the forbidden topic. Dede Holden On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Support/Jim Terry jimte...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: This is a request from the LUG administrator that all messages about the program DropBox stop immediately. This program is not a Legacy add-on and we are getting complaints about the on-going message thread. The purpose of the LUG is to provide a forum for mutual help and the friendly exchange of ideas related to the use of Legacy Family Tree and its add-on programs, only. Please keep on topic. Any further messages about DropBox will result in the offender being removed without warning from the LegacyUserGroup. The excuse I didn't see administer warning is not a valid reason for leaving you on the subscribers list. Please see http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp if you have questions about LUG policy. Thank you for choosing Legacy, Jim Terry Legacy Family Tree Legacy Charting http://LegacyFamilyTree.com Phone: 425 788-0932 We are changing the world of genealogy! _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len . We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 9220 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
I don't consider myself a professional either, but I like to keep a copy on my computer as a PDF file because I can have several of them open at the same time. On Ancestry, loading and viewing digital images can be painfully slow. The PDF's pop up quickly. I have discovered other family connections based on other people listed on the same census pages, so going back to the actual document has been a great plus for me in my research. Of course, I now have an external hard drive, because these files take up so much space, but it's worth it to me. I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this, too. Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say it is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished. Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the history of my family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland, England, etc. I have used the SourceWriter to document each entry. For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later entries, I have gone back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and found the data quickly. This tells me that my source details pass the test of findability. Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a digital copy of each census record to include with each reference to the census document in Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events. How would you professionals answer this query? Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Still Confused... RE: [LegacyUG] Abbreviation/Symbol Definition - +
Jim, I see what you're talking about. I agree with JL. It means that there is more than one relationship. I have a cousin who is married to someone who is also her fourth cousin and her fifth cousin. (She's only married to one man - we just have ancestors who married cousins more than once!) There is a plus beside the relationship indicated in the Family View. Dede Holden On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Certainly appreciate your answer, but I could thick and missing something. I understand your technical explanation as to upwards and downwards direction relationships and the use of the + and - symbols outside of Legacy. Actually I think I was wrong and I apologise for any confusion I may have caused. I shouldn't post late at night when I haven't bothered to check things. I was thinking that I had read about the + and - symbols indicating direction of relationships, but in fact Legacy indicates a downwards cousinship by putting an asterisk after the relationship and there is no symbol on an upwards cousinship. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: Still Confused... RE: [LegacyUG] Abbreviation/Symbol Definition - +
Jim, See Help Index - Symbols. What do the Little Symbols Mean? You may notice some symbols on the Family View at the ends of some of the names. Here is what they mean: A + at the end of a parent names means that person has parents. There is at least one more generation of ancestors on that line. A + at the end of a child name means that person has children. There is at least one more generation of descendants on that line. There are more symbols described, but I only included the part about the + sign, since that's what you asked about. Does this make sense with what you're seeing? Dede Holden On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Jim Smith jsmit...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Jenny, Certainly appreciate your answer, but I could thick and missing something. I understand your technical explanation as to upwards and downwards direction relationships and the use of the + and - symbols outside of Legacy. My current Legacy Family screens only show the + in the relationship areas to the wife, Rose, and her son, Joe. My problem is, if that is the case, translated as a symbol in Legacy, it should then show also on the John's, the husband's relationship area. According to your explanation then both John and Rose relationship description should be exactly the same as both are offspring of siblings, 1st cousins who married. I have re-set the relationship calculation a number of times and keep coming up with the same results - John = 1st cousin 3 removed and Rose = 1st cousin 3 times removed +. Thanks for your help. Jim -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:03 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Abbreviation/Symbol Definition - + Jim Smith wrote: Afternoon, I am trying to understand the meaning of the + abbreviation/symbol in the following relationship labeling. The relationships are to me: 1. Husband, John - My 1st cousin 3 times removed. 2. Wife, Rose - My 1st cousin 3 times removed +. 3. Their son, Joe - My 2nd cousin twice removed +. The given parameters are: 1. John's father, Joe, is my gg-granduncle. 2. Rose's mother, Lois, is my gg-grandaunt. 3. Joe and Lois are brother and sister. 4. Their father is may ggg-grandfather. What does the + provided by the Legacy Relationship Calculator mean? It means that the removed is in an upwards direction - ie the direct cousin relationships are in previous generations to you. By the same token, your 1st cousin's child, being a generation below you, would be your 1st cousin once removed - -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Intellishare question
My husband has heard me talk about his family history long enough and now he wants to get in on the action. Yay! We have separate computers so I decided that the Intellishare option would work for us. I have read the Help Center article and understand what I'm supposed to do when he sends me the file AFTER he's made changes. I exported my family file to a Legacy file and saved it under a different name. I e-mailed the file to him. When we tried to open it through Legacy on his computer, it did not work. It had the .fdb extension. Luckily we're in the same house, so I could copy the file to a jump drive and move it to his computer. But I'm wondering, what happens when the person you're sharing with is in another state and e-mail is the only way to transmit the files back and forth? Does anybody have any ideas or experience with this? The only problem that I can think of is the possibility that the file name I used for the e-mailed version (send to rick.fdb) was not a good name. When I exported to my jump drive, I used a one word file name. Could that explain the problem? Dede Holden
Re: [LegacyUG] Intellishare question
Gary, That is very interesting. I was using gmail. In fact, I sent it to myself, via gmail, so I could open it on his computer. I'll try again, using an alternate email address and see what happens. I want to get this figured out, because my brother wants to start sharing our family file also and he lives in another town. Thanks for the reply. Mike, thanks also for your reply. Since the Help files are a little vague about how you should send the file, I decided to use Export. It's good to know that copy works just as well. Dede On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Gary Templeman gtemplem...@comcast.net wrote: Dede, I notice you are using Gmail, and I assume your husband is also. I have had a recent problem with a friend, where PDF files sent to his Gmail account are not able to be opened, but the same file sent to his two alternate accounts go through fine. When we look at the attachment sizes they are different. We have tried 3-4 tests with different PDF files and all have the same problem. He suspects something is happening at Gmail that corrupts certain attachments. Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:36 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Intellishare question My husband has heard me talk about his family history long enough and now he wants to get in on the action. Yay! We have separate computers so I decided that the Intellishare option would work for us. I have read the Help Center article and understand what I'm supposed to do when he sends me the file AFTER he's made changes. I exported my family file to a Legacy file and saved it under a different name. I e-mailed the file to him. When we tried to open it through Legacy on his computer, it did not work. It had the .fdb extension. Luckily we're in the same house, so I could copy the file to a jump drive and move it to his computer. But I'm wondering, what happens when the person you're sharing with is in another state and e-mail is the only way to transmit the files back and forth? Does anybody have any ideas or experience with this? The only problem that I can think of is the possibility that the file name I used for the e-mailed version (send to rick.fdb) was not a good name. When I exported to my jump drive, I used a one word file name. Could that explain the problem? Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Addresses in Legacy 7
Michael, Look at Reports, Books/Other, Address Labels. I guess you could print the labels on regular paper to use an address book, but if you're doing a mailout, the labels are the perfect thing. Be sure you look at all the tabs on the Address Label report. You have lots of options. Dede Holden On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Michael L. Thomas genealo...@verizon.net wrote: Since I have taken the time to enter as much information as I know and that includes Addresses, Phones, and Email, is there a way the create an address book or contact book and have it used to send out information and the like? Thank you Michael Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?
Hello John, Click on View-Tips Window, then click the bottom box, show this Welcome screen... Dede On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Gen Searcher gensearc...@sky.com wrote: Hello List Can sks point me to where I can turn on the tips screen at start-up I cannot find it John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] blank pages in reports
Elizabeth, Take a look at this: Reports - Books/Other - Ancestor, then click on the tab that says Page Layout. If you have checked the option to start on an odd page number, this may be causing the blank pages. Not sure this is your problem, just a thought. Welcome to gmail! I've been using it for quite awhile and it is really an efficient way to store/search e-mail. Dede On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Elizabeth roobee...@googlemail.com wrote: I have tried to make an Ancestor book for someone and the sources were showing on a second following page. I then changed the option to show them all at the end of the document and now the preview pane shows the same number of pages, each second page (following a generation) is now blank. I think this may have been aired before but I can't find an answer in the archive. Incidentally, I have followed recent advice and this is using my newly-created gmail account! - I am not new to the group. Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Rel. Calc. and Back-up
Gene, I am only responding to your second observation about backups. The latest updates to Legacy 7 have included the backup date as part of the file name to be backed up. I am very happy about this update, because I was saving my backups by date anyway. This change has saved me much time, since I backup my files after every session. Of course, you will have to delete older backups to make room for the newer ones. I've always wanted my last two or three backups, at least, just in case I find something I need to go back several days to fix. This may be overkill, but I also alternate my backups between two jump drives, just in case one of them fails for some reason. I have a pretty recent backup on both of my jump drives. (I also use Mozy. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Lesson learned the hard way.) Dede Holden On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Gene Hutson fish...@cableone.net wrote: Hi All, Anyone else notice these two problems or am I the only lucky one to be plagued?? If I bring up the Relationship Calculator with myself in the right side window and I try to bring my own mother up instead, I hit the swap button and it will cycle for an hour only to come up and say that she is in fact my mom. In previous versions when you went to back up your data at the end of a session, it would tell you that whatever file already existed, do you want to over-write it?? Now it just keeps adding all these back-up files instead of over-writing them. I hadn't noticed it until I saw my available space on my hard drive slowly diminishing. After looking in Data I found like 24 different backed up files. After deleting all but the most recent, my available space once again jumped like 5 percentage points. Just thought someone ought to know. Gene Hutson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Use for USER ID numbers
Allison, What a great idea! I've just learned the value of the Find a Grave number, as that is the info needed to make relationship links in Find a Grave. This is a good way to track your work, particularly if you're not using the User ID field for anything else (and I was not.) Dede Holden On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Allison Nelson allison...@gmail.com wrote: I just realized I could put that extra USER ID field to good use. When I post info for someone to findagrave.com I put the Find A Grave Memorial # in the User ID field. I set the fields showing on my main screen to: Birth Date Place Death Date Place Burial Date Place Names Alternate 1 User ID This way I can see at a glance whether the person has been entered at Find a Grave or not. Allison Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How do I???
Don, I hope I understand your question correctly. When you open the window to add the burial address, there is a button to the left that say Address List. If you click on this it will give you the names of all the addresses you've added for events. Is this what you're looking for? Dede Holden On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Donald Sherry deshe...@usa.net wrote: Starting at the Individual Information Screen, then into the Buried in window, then into the burial Address window. I have two separate entries for the same cemetery - but associated with different individuals. I want to combine them into one - just like I can in the View - Master Lists - Locations window. Any suggestions. It seems to me that there should be consistency between these two types of entries. Especially - there should be a drop down list avaiability to select from previous entries. Don Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How do I???
I checked one more thing. In the address window, if you click Options you have the option to combine duplicates. This should help if you've added the same address twice. I know I've had to use that feature. Dede Holden On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I hope I understand your question correctly. When you open the window to add the burial address, there is a button to the left that say Address List. If you click on this it will give you the names of all the addresses you've added for events. Is this what you're looking for? Dede Holden On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Donald Sherry deshe...@usa.net wrote: Starting at the Individual Information Screen, then into the Buried in window, then into the burial Address window. I have two separate entries for the same cemetery - but associated with different individuals. I want to combine them into one - just like I can in the View - Master Lists - Locations window. Any suggestions. It seems to me that there should be consistency between these two types of entries. Especially - there should be a drop down list avaiability to select from previous entries. Don Sherry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A question about Sourcing
Phil, I concur with Kirsten. I have several different newspapers as sources. In my Master List they are named Newspaper:Jackson Daily News, etc. This does indeed help you to quickly see if you already have a newspaper listed as a Master Source. I do the same thing with Books, Letters, Military Records, among others. I am sure I don't have as many sources as some on this list, but right now, this system is working for me. (By the way, I consider myself to be a splumper, splitting some sources and lumping others.) I'd like to hear if someone has a different view and why, especially if they have a large number of sources. Dede Holden On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Phil: The benefit to having a Master Source is to avoid repetitious typing by grouping together several source items that share common information. You could put all of your articles together under one Master Source called Newspapers or even use the artifacts or basic source template, but there would be very little common information to enter at the Master Source level. More typically, each newspaper would be a separate Master Source. I would begin the source list name with newspaper or news followed by the city or the newspaper name. This won't print in the source citation but it will group them together in your Master Source List so you can find them easily. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Phil Husband Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] A question about Sourcing I have a problem, probably a brick wall in my mind, about sourcing. Determining and naming a Master Source in particular. I have several newspaper articles, some I inherited, some I've downloaded from Ancestry.com Historical Newspaper collection. The articles are from several newspapers, in quite a few cities. I'm using them to keep track of when and where a particular family worked and lived in various cities. The articles range from 1902 to 1944. A majority, but not all, of these articles are from personal news columns (gossip columns). Can someone of this group using Legacy suggest one Master Source that I could use? I have Evidence Explained at hand, while there are many illustrations, what I need is how to name the master source. Phil Husband *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sourcing an edited work with many authors?
I have recently acquired two books with lots of information about several of my family lines. These books are Heritage books, published by Heritage Publishing Consultants in Alabama. The books contain many stories, genealogies, and pictures from Alabama. They have published one for each county. The stories are submitted by different individuals and most of them have referenced the sources they used. I want to include the specific submitter as the author of the material, but I want to use the book as my Master Source. This will probably turn out to be a lumping vs. splitting question, but I don't want to get too far into this and have to redo all my source entries. Here are my options as I see them so far: 1. Have one master source - the book itself. Use the page number and name of the story as the source detail and put the submitter's name in the comments section with the detail. 2. Have a master source for each story that I am citing - sort of like EE 12.64 Edited Works: Citing Chapter Author I started out using option 1, but now I'm leaning toward option 2 because some of these stories have so much info that it might be easier to enter the detail, as well as find the master source I want to use from the list, if the story names are given. However, I can't find a source template that really works for this. I know I can create my own using the basic source writer, but I do LOVE the templates! I value the opinion of this group, since I've learned so much from all of you. Let me know what you think. (BTW - I know these are all secondary sources and not to be trusted, especially since I've found errors regarding my own gg grandmother, so I'll do the appropriate verifying. I just want to get this part right.) Thanks, Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings
If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View, you'll get a pop-up menu. Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids. Dede On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the Family view in Legacy 7? In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the Family view if you checked the designated box in the children section. In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in the box you are viewing, not in the Family view. What am I not doing? Thanks for your time. Karen Thornhill researching ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Newspapers Online archives (issued by the publisher)
If you want to add notes to a repository, you need to click on Edit in the Repository window, then choose the Notes tab. Once you enter notes using the Notes tab, they will then appear in this Notes window when you look at the repository. Dede Holden On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Jessica Morgan wrote I am adding an obituary source using the Source Writer Template of Newspapers Online Archives (issued by the publisher). When in the Repository screen, I cannot type in the Notes field at the bottom of the box. Is this normal? I think it's a bug. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What happened to the Book marks for the new Source Writer
Cathy, Is the box still shown at the bottom for bookmarked source templates? Has the entire bookmark box disappeared, or have your bookmarks disappeared from the box? Just trying to understand the exact problem. Dede Holden On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this subject, I bookmarked a Source but cannot figure out how to retrieve or access it. I've read the Help manual several times on this subject but I'm still lost. I'm sure I'll feel stupid when someone explains, but I appreciate any help. Thanks. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA At 12:11 PM 8/2/2008, you wrote: Jerry, I'm not sure how to explain it any better. I open the Source writer, decide on the type of source and answer the questions that arise on the right till the red Step 2 comes up and it says on the bottom just above the window to book mark and I click on that before I click on Step 2. Before I up dated the bookmarked sources use to list in the slot below. Now nothing appears. - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 4:39:46 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What happened to the Book marks for the new Source Writer Barb Weed wrote Hi, It use to be that when I went through the new Source Writer and created the template, I could ,before clicking on step 2, save the template with a bookmark and it would be listed in the box at the bottom of the screen. That does not happen now. What happened? Did I do something wrong or is it broke? I noticed this after I updated to 7.055. Does anyone else have this problem? If not how do I fix it? You asked about this problem before and I requested that you give us more information about the steps you were taking as I was unable to reproduce your problem. As far as I know you did not come back with any more information. I have just tried again to create Template Bookmarks and again I have had no problems doing so. Please state *exactly* what you are doing at each stage of the process and I will see if you are doing anything differently to what I do and if I can replicate your problem. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] definite source problem
Janis, Just a quick look at my grandfather's Individual report as well as Chronology report and here's what I find: There are sources for my father that appear on my grandfather's Chronology report, but they are appropriately cited to my father's events. The individual report does not include these sources, since my father is not shown on the report. I know how frustrating it can be when you can't explain why something is happening. Do these erroneous sources appear when you choose endnotes rather than footnotes? I've found that these two choices sometimes produce very different results. Sorry I can't be more help. Dede Holden On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definitely have some sort of sourcing problem going. I would love to know if anyone else if having a similar problem. I am doing some editing on an individual named John Lawson Clark. I earlier noted that for some reason the 1900 census of his son John C. Clark had attached itself to every event for John Lawson Clark. I weeded all of those instances out for John Lawson Clark. I also replaced some of the John Lawson Clark census entries with newer sources, written with the Source Writer. When viewed in the Assigned Sources window for John Lawson Clark, all of these sources appear to be in order and proper. However, when I run a chronology report or an individual report for John Lawson Clark, some sources for John C. Clark appear appended to the reports. These sources do NOT appear in the Assigned sources window, but appear consistently in the report sources. Can anyone shed any light on what is happening here? I am working in Legacy 7.0. I have backed up the file and run a check/repair. The erroneous sources continue to appear in reports. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Previously entered Data not showing up with version 7 ??
When this has happened to me in the past, I've found that doing the standard File Maintenance usually helps to restore everything to its proper place. Dede Holden On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:19 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first guess. Go to Name List.Since I know my Name list has 24865, and it matches, mine is good. How many should be there and how many are there now? I know you may not have looked for the total recently, but figure out how many people are completely gone. Hopefully bits of everyone are there. Have you been making anything private? Have you accidently checked one or more private checks. After confirming that we still need to fix stuff, be specific about 3-4 things missing, so we can tell why. Example: RIN #246 missing Event: census. Check there for privacy stuff. I hope this will be resolved easily. Rich in LA CA --- Deborah K. Millemaci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Recently installed version 7 on my laptop...and tonight I was editing information and it appears that all the information I previously entered on my descendants (funeral info, stories, etc. is not showing up when I click on a name...this is happening with all my names. Also, all the descendants are not showing up that I had previously before the update. Has anyone else encountered this problem?? - Deb ~~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Issue with Bibliography - V7
Cary, I do know the kind of problem you're talking about. I had this same issue. Doing the File Maintenance/Check and repair seems to have cleared it up for me. I'd be interested to know if it works for you. My report was hundreds of pages because of the problem with the Bibliography. Now I can print a Descendant Narrative report for the same ancestor, including the Bibliography that is only 57 pages long. Dede Holden On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Jay S. Van Zeeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay said: I know that this isn't much help, but I've run an ancestry report with all generations (11,000 people) and had no problem. I, too, have a number of sources with the detail text of the document from v.6, but had no problems. Could you try to do File Maintenance|Check and repair, perhaps also do a Master List clean-up. Perhaps this may help. Cary said: I'm desperate, so I tried to do this, BUT - None of the funky one line pages are in the reports or the Source Citations where I could change something. ALL of them are in the Bibliography. That's created by Legacy and there is no place for me to delete spaces etc. The first instance is in the listing for a web site where the source text includes the entire text of several gravestone epitaphs. Once that hit the bottom of a page, each line after that is on a separate page. Why would a bibliography include source text or comments anyway? The point of a bibliography is to be a LIST only. The paging problem did NOT occur on the same source in Source Citations. I also noted that the Bibliography continued below the page number and into the margin on another page rather than have a page break in that source. So the pagination is off both in NOT making a break in mid notes in one case and in breaking after every line in another. I suspect the base problem is including Source text (which is long in some cases) in the Bibliography at all. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7
Ronald, This may or may not help, but Ancestry.com gives very good source information along with the records. If you like, you can choose Printer Friendly from the result window, then print the search result you're going to use, along with the source information. Having this in front of you while you work with the various templates may give you a good idea of which template will produce the best result for the source you're using. Dede Holden On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronald, Seems like this one would match: Marriage Records Found in Governmental Records Marriage Certificate Country Created at local/county level Online image If it's just a database, this one always works: Add a Generic Source Here Online database Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald E Howell Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:50 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7 What Master source, using SourceWriter, would be used for a marriage record found on the internet through www.ancestry.com? I am using the deluxe version of Legacy v7. It is not a church record but a State/County record. Thanks and I appreciate your help in advance, Ronald E Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines
Sherry, This thread caused me to take a look at the US County Verifier list. I have this feature turned on and it has prompted me in the past when I used a county that was not in existence at the time I used it, but I have never had occasion just to read the list. I read the help file to learn how to access this list. The Help file states The USA County Verification List can be reached from the message box reporting a questionable county entry in a location field or by clicking the USA County Verifier button on the Master Location List. (The US County Verifier button is marked with a US Flag.)' I do not have such a button on my Master Location list. Is this a new feature that hasn't been implemented or is it an old feature that has gone away? I only have the latest update of Legacy 7 on my computer, so I cannot go back to a previous version to check this. Thanks for your help with this, Dede Holden On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a very good feature, but what I am looking for is to be able to have an event for each person that, in the event view, will give me the full history of a county associated with that person. TMG had state history timelines, but I just want county history ones. I guess the only way to get them is to do them individually for each county that my individuals lived in myself and input them as timelines in Legacy. If I do, then I will probably find that they are done somewhere and I have reinvented the wheel. Jane Sarles Sherry/Support wrote: Jane, County creation dates for current and historical counties, as well as parent counties and ending dates, can be found in the USA County Verifier in Legacy. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Sarles Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:12 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines Yes, this is reeeally good. From it I can construct a timeline for each of my counties. Thanks so much. Jane Don Varner wrote: Try this one. http://www.familyhistory101.com/map_county.html On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jane, At one time I stumbled across a website that had county creation dates and details for each state so I know one is out there- unfortunately I didn't save it [sigh] - Original Message From: Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 11:03:05 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines I just meant states that had their counties put in a timeline that indicates their lineage (if that is the proper word) formed from so and so county with year, etc. I am looking particularly for VA NC TN and KY. I guess, upon reflection, what is want is county timelines for certain counties in these states. My old fuzzy thinking problem again. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do Problem
Carol, I just tried this as you described and I did not have a problem with the problem locking up. I did notice that the To-do icon has a small o beside it. This means that you have To-Do items that are open. If all the To-Do items for that individual are closed, then the o goes away. It is easy to confuse the letter o with the number zero. Everything I tried functioned exactly as you described, up to step 5. When I click on the icon, everything functions as it should. Since this happens every time you try it, you might want to call Support. I just wanted you to have a second opinion. Sorry I couldn't help solve this for you. Dede Holden On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Bob Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol, Just tried creating a new to-do item from the individuals screen. I was able to create it, edit it, and finally delete it without any problems what-so-ever. It works fine on my machine. I know this doesn't help you solve your problem but at least you now know that the to-do creation routine in Legacy is working fine. It would appear that the something is not quite right with your Legacy install or possibly your data file has something in it that is causing the problem (and not being picked up by file maintenance). Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried the same on several files and it caused the same failure! When you try to enter a To-Do from the individuals screen, it causes the same problem. Guess the TO-DO function is broken!!! Usually the support staff monitors the e-mail group, but have not received a response from them??? Also, submitted a bug report, and have not received an acknowledgement either??? Guess no one is home??? Carol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do Problem Tried to use the TO-DO feature and it locked-up again. Any suggestions??? Sent the follow on 2 Jul08, and never received a response. Also, submitted a BUG REPORT??? Carol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do Problem Hi, Have uncovered a problem that locks-up Legacy which was caused when I made a error entering a To-Do item for an Individual's information screen. Here's what I did: 1. Entered a To-Do item from the Individual's Information screen 2. Forgot to enter a anything in the Task Needing to be Done section, and attempted to save the To-Do. 3. The program warned me of the error, and I then added Text to the Task Needing to be Done Section, and saved it. 4. Then I noticed that the To-Do icon was colored, and indicated 0 items. 5. When I clicked on the icon, then Upper menus and Icons at the top of the Legacy window when blank, and the program stopped functioning. The only way I could shut in down was to reboot the computer. 6. I ran the Check/Repair but it didn't help. Carol Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines
Sherry, Thanks for the response. I finally figured out that I could find this by clicking on the globe. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something. You folks are the best! Dede On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, On the Master Location list is a round globe button. The US County Verifier is there, as well as the Geo Location List and the Distance and Bearing Calculator. We'll have to get the Help topic 5-216 changed! Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines Sherry, This thread caused me to take a look at the US County Verifier list. I have this feature turned on and it has prompted me in the past when I used a county that was not in existence at the time I used it, but I have never had occasion just to read the list. I read the help file to learn how to access this list. The Help file states The USA County Verification List can be reached from the message box reporting a questionable county entry in a location field or by clicking the USA County Verifier button on the Master Location List. (The US County Verifier button is marked with a US Flag.)' I do not have such a button on my Master Location list. Is this a new feature that hasn't been implemented or is it an old feature that has gone away? I only have the latest update of Legacy 7 on my computer, so I cannot go back to a previous version to check this. Thanks for your help with this, Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Web Page Creation
This may be an obvious response, but I've had this same problem in the past. I did a backup, then went through the file maintenance process. It cleared up the problem for me. Dede Holden On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Bob Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron, Thanks for the reply. At least I know that the program is generating the pages correctly for you. Now to do some more investigating and try to figure out where I may have messed up . . . Bob ronald ferguson wrote: Bob, Have just tried InternetCreate Webpages. Selected all defaults and Descendant Pages with I person Invisible. Both name and surname indexes were there and the invisible person was not present at all. It would seem that another setting may be responsible if you are creating your pages in this way. Ron Ferguson _ Update your British Prime Ministers Timeline - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:01:11 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant Web Page Creation I was going to update my family web pages today and ran into a slight problem. I am using Legacy 7 Deluxe (latest build - 7.0.0.53) and created the web pages (Descendant Style) in my usual way. I checked off the boxes to create a surname index and a name list. To my surprise both the surname index (surname.htm) and name list (names.htm) were blank!! After a little investigating I discovered that these pages were blank ONLY if I had marked at least one individual as Invisible using the new privacy settings in version 7. If I make the individual Not Private then the surname index and name list are generated correctly. Can anyone else duplicate this apparent problem?? If it can be confirmed by someone else I'll submit a bug report - if not then maybe something is not quite right with my database . . . Thanks for any help. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Reported Bug?
Kirsten, Yesterday when I worked on this, I did have one occurrence of a citation that repeated in both scenarios - footnotes as well as endnotes. It was created before the 7.0.0.53 update, using the Sourcewriter - Newspaper template. It looked identical to me, but just to be sure, I deleted the second citation (burial). Then I copied the death event citation to the clipboard and pasted it to the burial. That cleared up the multiple citations on the endnote report. Is it possible for you to try this for your 1910 census that's causing you the problem? Dede On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No trouble, just hope I can help. I am on Legacy 7.0.0.53 using Windows XP SP2. For my test, I am using a family where I have an obituary for the wife that gives 4 details, so it is sourced (identically) 4 times. When I select endnotes, all 4 have the same footnote number which appears just once in the endnotes. When I select footnotes, each of the 4 instances have a different footnote number and the obituary appears 4 times in the footnotes. I am NOT using the SourceWriter at all for this family. The source was entered long before I upgraded to V7 and I have not changed it at all. When I include Events in the report (2 are sourced by the obituary), I get 6 numbers and 6 occurrences of the obituary in the footnotes, but just 1 number and 1 occurrence of the obituary if I check endnotes. I have changed a number of the other settings for the report but none of them seemed to make a difference (other than the footnote/endnote selection). As you say, there are likely several different bugs, but not just with templates. The only SourceWriter templates I have used so far are for cemetery markers, and not for this family. When you say you use the Descendant Book Report, I assume you are not referring to the Descendant Narrative Book Report, but I get the same results with both reports. I hope this adds some light to the situation. Anything more I can do to help? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce: Yes it does make sense, but it's not what I see. Unfortunately I get multiples when endnotes are selected. I hate to trouble you further, but I'm using 7.0.0.53 and the SourceWriter template for Census records (US, Federal, 1910 population schedule, Online images). Is that the same as you're using? I suspect there are different bugs associated with different templates because other sources don't repeat, only the 1910 US. Could you let me know if we're on the same page? The Descendant Book Report is the one I use most often, and it's completely useless in the format that I'm getting now. Your comparison would be extremely helpful. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:31 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Reported Bug? It depends on the setting for Sources If I select the footnote option for sources, I get multiple occurrences (looks like a bug) If I select the endnote option for sources, I get just one occurrence (looks good) I think this is also what Dede found (in both cases). Does that make sense? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Bruce: Thanks for checking this out, but your message has me puzzled. Are you seeing the same results as Dede (one occurrence per citation), and therefore *not* a bug, or are you seeing what I do (multiple occurrences of the same citation), and therefore a definite bug? Could you clarify, please? Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Reported Bug? I get the same results as Dede on both the Descendants and the Descendant Narrative reports. If footnotes is selected, separate details appear for EACH occurrence. If end notes is selected, only one occurrence appears. Definitely looks like a bug to me. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirsten, I've been experimenting with this and here's what I've come up with: If you choose Descendant report from the Books-Other tab of the main report window- then choose Report Options at the bottom, click on the Sources tab and choose Print Source Citations as Endnotes the details will only show up the first time for sources created using the census template on the SourceWriter. If you choose Print Source Citations as Footnotes, the details will print for every citation of that source. Does this help? On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't remember which bugs have been reported and which might not. On the Source Clipboard
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to source a burial card?
Paul, A quick look at Evidence Explained, 3.25 (p.138 in the hard copy) lists these under Artifacts- Privately Held. Take a look at this template and see if it will serve your purposes. Dede On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been given some small cards by my grandmother that are just memorial cards given out at the time of somebody's death. One of them is for my great grandfather who died in 1931. The card gives his name, date of death, age and the name of the cemetery where he was interred. There are no 'publication' facts as these cards were obviously only given to friends family, so which of the new source templates should I use? Thanks Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Source: Artifacts Privately held
Kristen, I've just tried this and I can confirm this condition. I have a source created with the Artifact template. The Source text does not appear at all in the Descendant Book Report, nor does the Source Detail. It also does not print in the Individual Report, nor the Family Group Report. The source does appear in the Bibliography however. I would think this is a bug. Dede On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used the Artifacts Privately held template for several citations. All have detail text and comments and all have the add text boxes checked. In all instances, the information shows correctly in the Output screen on the individual's page but the detail and comments do not appear in the Descendant Book Report. Do others see this condition? Is it a bug associated only with the Artifacts Privately held template? (Other templates I've used work properly so far.) Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Strange characters after names
Jane, In the Help file, do a search for Symbols. One of the titles is What do the symbols mean? This should help answer your question. Dede Holden On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of the people in my imported data base have strange characters after their name in the children view. Some have a +. Some have a (_). I don't understand this at all. I have tried to change some things globally, using search and replace, but it doesn't seem to work. It did correct 1 instance, one time, but left the rest. Jane Sarles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] V7 Repository Notes question/bug?
I've just discovered a curious thing. When you select an existing repository for a new source created using the SourceWriter, the Notes window appears to be an active window, with a blinking cursor. There is even a greyed out scroll bar. However, you cannot add notes here. You must click on the Edit button, then choose the Notes tab to create a note. The note then appears in this window, once you've saved it. Has anyone else noticed this? I don't mind the note window being there, but I would think it should appear as uneditable. I know this is a ticky little thing and it's really not a big deal. Just wondering if anybody else gets the same thing. -- Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization Tips message not shown
Jim, Try Options (or Ctrl+Z) - Customize - Other - Optional Reminder Messages - Message Tab, bottom box. (Message to always show Standardization Tips) Dede Holden On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Jim Ormsbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife unchecked 'Always show Standardization Tips' after modifying an individual's information because it was annoying her. It was displayed because of the character '\', which she extensively uses to separate different spellings of the given name. Now it doesn't show for any problems for any individual, and we can't turn it back on. We looked at all the options. Incidentally, '\' is not shown as a character not usually found in a name. We are using Legacy 7.0 Deluxe Edition. Any thoughts? Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Reports
Tom, Since I'm one of those who has been guilty in the past of answering the wrong question, I'm trying to be careful here. There are two tabs available when you choose Source Citation Report. Have you looked at both of those and marked the appropriate boxes? It seems that there is more than one place to choose what prints on various reports. I have had a problem with the source text and details printing properly on Family Group Reports when I've added new sources using the SourceWriter. That has been discussed and I understand that the programmers are working on it, if they haven't already fixed it. But on my Source Citation Report, it appears that all is well. I do have sources that were added in Legacy 6 and have not been changed, as well as new sources added since I got Legacy 7, both using the SourceWriter, as well as the Basic entry screen. I checked all of these and everything is printing as I have requested, both at the Source entry level, as well as the Source Citation Report level. Dede Holden On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have checked the archives and I see nothing about the problem I'm dealing with. Source detail is printing fine in the footnote/endmote. What I am trying to get across is that the source (or citation) detail is not printing on the Source Citation Report even though the option to include it has been checked. What is odd is that I series of citations for the Social Security Death Index as a major source with the detail appropriate to each individual. The citations printed correctly on the Source Citation Report, including the source detail When I went through the same process using the Application for a Social Security Account (SS-5) as the Master Source, citing source details for each person, the source detail does NOT appear in the Source Citation Account. I then did a test with 2 or 3 more made up sources and the problem repeated itself. This has nothing to do with source details not appearing in footnotes or source details not appearing in subseguent citations. I'm tryingto explain all of this again because I get the impression that sometimes helpful people answer what they think the question is rather than what the question really is. If the problem I am experiencing has indeed been previously reported as a bug, where is the evidence of that? Why did Geoff not know about it. I appreciate all assistance. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Reports
Tom, I have tried every possible combination of options and I cannot reproduce this problem as you describe it. In fact, I can't find a way to keep the Source Detail from printing on every source I've tagged, as long as I've chosen all the options on the tab for the report. (Specific events and all 4 boxes underneath.) When I'm having a problem like this, I do a backup, then file maintenance, etc., then shut down and restart and see what happens. Now I'm going to be late for work, but I've been learning a lot trying to help you figure this out! Good luck! Dede On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede and Interested Legacy Staff, In the Reports window, under Miscellaneous Reports, I click on Source Citation Listing. The Source Citation Report Window has two tabs...Include and Options. On the Include tab I have selected Only Tagged Sources (I have already tagged the particular source I want a reoprt of) andMaster Sources and All Citations to Each One. I have also selected include specific events and all four items under that. On the Options tab all seven choices at the top of the tab are checked and Printed Style Format is selected. Source Writer has been used to establish the Master Sources and the Source Detail . The resultant Source Citation report the first time I printed it for a particular tagged Master Source was fine and the Source Detail is included. When I tag a different Master Source and the same selections remain on the Include and Options tabs, the Source Detail is NOT included when I print the Source Citation Report. I am able to add more citations to the first source and those addition print properly on the Source Citation Report. If I tag both the first source and another one, the first source prints properly, including the source detail for each event, but the next source excludes the source detail for each event. Suggestions anyone? Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Reports Tom, Since I'm one of those who has been guilty in the past of answering the wrong question, I'm trying to be careful here. There are two tabs available when you choose Source Citation Report. Have you looked at both of those and marked the appropriate boxes? It seems that there is more than one place to choose what prints on various reports. I have had a problem with the source text and details printing properly on Family Group Reports when I've added new sources using the SourceWriter. That has been discussed and I understand that the programmers are working on it, if they haven't already fixed it. But on my Source Citation Report, it appears that all is well. I do have sources that were added in Legacy 6 and have not been changed, as well as new sources added since I got Legacy 7, both using the SourceWriter, as well as the Basic entry screen. I checked all of these and everything is printing as I have requested, both at the Source entry level, as well as the Source Citation Report level. Dede Holden On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have checked the archives and I see nothing about the problem I'm dealing with. Source detail is printing fine in the footnote/endmote. What I am trying to get across is that the source (or citation) detail is not printing on the Source Citation Report even though the option to include it has been checked. What is odd is that I series of citations for the Social Security Death Index as a major source with the detail appropriate to each individual. The citations printed correctly on the Source Citation Report, including the source detail When I went through the same process using the Application for a Social Security Account (SS-5) as the Master Source, citing source details for each person, the source detail does NOT appear in the Source Citation Account. I then did a test with 2 or 3 more made up sources and the problem repeated itself. This has nothing to do with source details not appearing in footnotes or source details not appearing in subseguent citations. I'm tryingto explain all of this again because I get the impression that sometimes helpful people answer what they think the question is rather than what the question really is. If the problem I am experiencing has indeed been previously reported as a bug, where is the evidence of that? Why did Geoff not know about it. I appreciate all assistance. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Jenny, My newly combined source does have the bullet beside it. That's one of the first questions I posted after I combined the sources and Geoff responded that the bullet means the source was created with the new Source Writer. I thought that in itself is a great feature so that you will know the difference. I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and see exactly what I did. I really do think I clicked on the new source first. Somehow it made sense to me that if I wanted the Master Source info from one and the detail from the other that I should click on the Master first and then combine the details into that master. I knew I had my backup to rely on, in case I lost all the details. Thanks for exploring this with me. It's really helping me to think through my next steps - do I wait for these quesitions to be answered definitely, or do I keep working on my sources? Right now, I'm just adding new sources with the Source Writer - not doing any more combining. Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede Holden wrote Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was supposed to. If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you merged the *new* Source into the *old* one. This does retain the old Source Detail. Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in the new, merged Source. Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at the Source List? If not, then you definitely merged new into old. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. What happens when you choose Edit Detail? Can you then copy your detail? Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no way to copy it for pasting. Is that more clear? Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to Text/Comments, or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. Rich in LA CA --- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janis Gilmore wrote Nothing, however, will enable access to the old source detail, in spite of the fact that it is partially visible. (Gee, this is hard to describe!) It is quite normal that you cannot access that old detail because you never have been able to access or copy material from the Assigned Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to highlight a whole row with either mouse or keyboard. You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail visible by altering the column widths before you click on Edit and then you can copy the Detail into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and re-typing it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the detail that you can't access. If I can see detail on the Assigned Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail, then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there. When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is there. I can edit or copy from that place. Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. What happens when you choose Edit Detail? Can you then copy your detail? Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no way to copy it for pasting. Is that more clear? Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to Text/Comments, or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. Rich in LA CA --- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janis Gilmore wrote Nothing, however, will enable access to the old source detail, in spite of the fact that it is partially visible. (Gee, this is hard to describe!) It is quite normal that you cannot access that old detail because you never have been able to access or copy material from the Assigned Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to highlight a whole row with either mouse or keyboard. You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail visible by altering the column widths before you click on Edit and then you can copy the Detail into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and re-typing it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Jenny and Janis, I have gone back and reread this thread. I think I understand what you're talking about now. The Text/comment is NOT the problem. I finally figured it out - it's late on a Friday night. I guess this has not been a problem for me, because the Source Detail I've been working with is just a page number, so I've not had a problem re-entering it. Please forgive me for trying to solve this problem that I didn't fully understand. I can see that if you're working with a census or something more complicated than just a page number that it would be a problem to re-enter. I'm thinking that I'll wait for the conversion tool to do my census and other complicated conversions! Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the detail that you can't access. If I can see detail on the Assigned Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail, then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there. When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is there. I can edit or copy from that place. Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do. What happens when you choose Edit Detail? Can you then copy your detail? Dede On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no way to copy it for pasting. Is that more clear? Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see the 'lost words'? Go to Text/Comments, or other choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it all and move it to the new correct place. I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this way, please be more descriptive of where you see the hidden stuff. Rich in LA CA --- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janis Gilmore wrote Nothing, however, will enable access to the old source detail, in spite of the fact that it is partially visible. (Gee, this is hard to describe!) It is quite normal that you cannot access that old detail because you never have been able to access or copy material from the Assigned Sources Screen. You have only ever been able to highlight a whole row with either mouse or keyboard. You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail visible by altering the column widths before you click on Edit and then you can copy the Detail into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and re-typing it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose Combine Highlighted Source then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on combine highlighted source with another in list - then clicked on the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation details, but comments tabs remained intact. Since I did it with a particular census, and the census year and county, and the household data is in the Event Notes area, all I have lost is the township, p. no.'s, etc - easily replaced. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Gail and Janis, I have done the same thing. I took a source that had lots of different source details for several generations. I created a new Master Source using the Source Writer. I combined the two. My details stayed exactly where they were supposed to! I did not have to re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled. Of course, I did a backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source details that I spent DAYS entering. As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM! Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Janis, Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was supposed to. Or maybe it was just beginner's luck! After reading Geoff's comments and Dave B.'s observations, I've gone back and checked everything just to be sure I didn't overlook something that might have gotten lost in translation. I'm a little nervous about trying to combine any more sources, since everyone has not had the same results that I had. I'm like you - I do love the new Sourcewriter. I am able to be more consistent in the way I am entering my data. I finally feel confident that I'm doing things the right way - not just feeling my way through and making it up as I go. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure, Geoff, that I understand this in light of DeDe's comment, however. She said her source details survived the merge. Is that in conflict with what Dave B. indicated? Janis (loving the new SourceWriter, and still experimenting) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer) comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way, hence the need for the conversion tool. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it, the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete source. Comments, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Ladies, Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and Dede merged them the other way, new into old? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources DeDe (and Gail), That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost the citation detail? Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this. Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources Janis, The source was a book compiled by my great uncle. I had BMD info for each particular person in the Source Details. I also had a paragraph from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments. From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter Template. I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what I had written originally. As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the new source first, chose Combine Highlighted Source then clicked on the old source and then clicked again. This source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events. I have just checked one more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6. Hope this helps. Dede On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on combine highlighted source with another in list - then clicked on the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation details, but comments tabs remained intact. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http
Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources
Gail and Janis, I have done the same thing. I took a source that had lots of different source details for several generations. I created a new Master Source using the Source Writer. I combined the two. My details stayed exactly where they were supposed to! I did not have to re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled. Of course, I did a backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source details that I spent DAYS entering. As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM! Dede Holden On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gail, This is exactly what happened to me when I merged two census sources. Any thoughts, Geoff? Janis Walker Gilmore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:48 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources I decided to start a new topic here for this question. I created a new master source for a census. Then I merged an existing master source used by 5 individuals into the new master source. The master source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed attached to the new master. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Jenny and Jon, I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file in Legacy. The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places after it. e.g. 681234.293. If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math terms? Thanks! Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Gregson wrote What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., probably missed something. Tes, I think you have. In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. I found all the explanations of Lat Long in the Help system very useful, being as I am a geognoramus! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
Okay, I'm going to answer my own question. I went to the Locations window and clicked Add. At the bottom of the screen, where you add latitude and longitude, I see the explanation of this lengthy number. Latitude = DDMMSS.xxx and Longitude = DDDMMSS.xxx So 681234.293 is 68 degrees, 12 minutes and 34.293 seconds. Now it makes sense. Dede On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenny and Jon, I must be a math/geognoramus. Here's a quote taken from the Help file in Legacy. The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes and seconds. The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and between 0 and 180, if a longitude. The minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59. The seconds can have up to three decimal places after it. e.g. 681234.293. If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude), and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59 then where do you get the number 681234? It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180! I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this number format. Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math terms? Thanks! Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Gregson wrote What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy? I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer., probably missed something. Tes, I think you have. In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click Display select Latitude and Longitude again. Scroll down to the paragraph in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees, minutes and seconds. When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively. I found all the explanations of Lat Long in the Help system very useful, being as I am a geognoramus! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy User Group] Version 7 Family view-customize
On the Individual screen, click on the arrow at the end of the burial field. The bottom choice is Cremated. When you check this option, the wording changes to show Cremated, rather than Buried. Dede Holden On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:51 PM, John Gregson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using the Customize Family View screen, I would like to change BURIED to CREMATED I can not change this field; grayed out. John Dawson Creek,BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Combining Sources in v7 - problem with print out
Several of us have reported some inconsistencies with the way our source information is appearing in reports, when we've used the new source writer template. I have submitted a bug report for my particular issue, and I think some others have done the same. I am patiently waiting for the amazing programmers to fix these issues. Meanwhile, I'm working on some other things, doing some more research, organizing my paperwork, etc. Hopefully this will be resolved soon. All in all Legacy 7 is worth the price - the Source Writer Template is really a great idea and I can't wait for them to get it all kink-free. Dede Holden On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have tried making a new source in the master source list for 1850 Izard County, Arkanasas Federal Census via Source Writer and then combining my old 1850 Izard source that was written via the basic source entry system. After that, I went into the clipboard put the details in. Went to each of the seven individuals and fixed the details by the clipboard (because they evidently did not carry over in the combination process). Everything looked fine at that point. Looking at each person's sources (there's only 7 people using this cite) and checking on what the subsequent citations should look like, all seems well and shows this the way it was entered in Source Writer. However! On reports, the subsequent citation is picking up nonsense out of the old basic source version that was supposedly changed when I combined it with the new Source Writer source. Either I've confused myself and can't see where I went wrong (highly likely) or it's a bug of some sort. (not as likely, but certainly possible.) Help??? Thanks in advance, Penny Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v.7 source details don't print
I am also having a problem with Master Source Text/Comments and Source Detail Text. Problem: Master Source Text/Comments appears on EVERY instance of Source Citation, even though I have checked Include on Reports First Time Only The Source Detail does not print on any subsequent Source Citations, even though I have checked Include on Reports I thought the problem might be attributed to the fact that these sources had been converted from Legacy 6. I re-entered the Master Source information using the new Source Templates. I combined the Sources (old into new). My detail text stayed where it belonged (thankfully!). To test this theory, I entered a brand new source that had never been a part of my Legacy 6. I used the Source Template. I have the same problem. Master Text/Comments on EVERY citation, detail only on the first. I deleted the Legacy/FGS.usr file as Ron suggested. I tried again. Still the same problem. Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the Master Source Text/Comments? I really don't want to read this information over and over again in reports. I thought that choosing First Time Only meant that if the Source is footnote #1, the Text/Comments will be printed. If this same source is footnote #3 (and 4 and 5...) I shouldn't see the Text/Comments again. Any help will be appreciated. Right now I am waiting to enter more information, because I don't want to have to change everything if I've misunderstood this function. Thanks, Dede Holden On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:40 AM, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marie, It works fine. Try deleting the C:\Legacy\FGS.usr file and resetting your criteria. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:46:38 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v.7 source details don't print To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Source detail in endnotes don't print in either family group report or individual report. Checked box to include them. Also checked box for bibliography but that doesn't print either. Is there something I'm missing? Marie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ All new Live Search at Live.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001006ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
I understand what you're saying. Since I'm taking this very slowly, I just pull out my original source document and use it for entering the source using the Source Writer. I've found that sometimes I need information that I did not include the first time I entered the source anyway. Dede On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Randolph Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm unable to split screens, i.e. viewing old and new sources simultaneously. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JD Liddil wrote In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this conversion manually? As I think I have mentioned elsewhere, I create a new Source to match the old one, then merge the old into the new and adjust the Source Details as necessary. If yolu are a lumper, creating the new Master Sources doesn't take too long, but updating all the Source Details might be quite a major task. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Add the new source with the template. Combine the old source with the new source. The new source will have a bullet beside it,indicating that it was generated with the Source Template. I don't think it matters which one you choose first when you are combining. The progam recognizes the source created with the new template. Verify that your Source Details are accurate. I have converted several of my sources this way and everything has been handled beautifully by Legacy. The source detail stayed where it belonged, with the appropriate person. Dede Holden On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JD Liddil wrote In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this conversion manually? As I think I have mentioned elsewhere, I create a new Source to match the old one, then merge the old into the new and adjust the Source Details as necessary. If yolu are a lumper, creating the new Master Sources doesn't take too long, but updating all the Source Details might be quite a major task. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Ver 7 source detail on reports
I first asked this question on Saturday and had no response. Maybe my question was too long. I do know that the Legacy server is swamped and many things have been held up so I've waited this long to repost. (It's Tuesday morning.) I'll try to rephrase briefly. On Reports, I'd like for the Master Source Text/Comments to be shown the first time a source is cited only. I have that option checked. I want the Source Detail to print, also. But I'm getting the Master Source Text/Comments every time the source is cited and the Source Detail from the first citation only on the first citation. When the Source Detail changes with subsequent citations of the source, the Detail does not appear on the report, even when it is the first time this detail has been cited. Since there are several places that this option can be turned on or off, I don't know if : 1) I've missed something 2) I've misunderstood the purpose of the option 3) This is a bug I have been testing this on Family Group Reports. -- Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
The good news is: Once you've added the new version of your source, you can combine the old source with the new one and Legacy keeps the new source. The bullet beside the source in the Master Source list lets you know which sources have been written with the new Source Writer. I've made the change for several of my sources that had multiple citations with different Source Details for each and all have been handled properly by Legacy. I'm sure I don't have as many sources as many of you, but I'm finding it helpful to do this conversion manually, since it forces me to look at each source and rethink my citations. It also helps to generate some of your favorite reports and see how the source citations are handled. You can see what needs to be fixed. Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:03 PM, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One at a time. Start a new source so there's a small box on top of your main screen for that and you can still see the old source. Then either re-type or copy and paste one section at a time from the old fields to the new ones. Repeat x-hundred times. See you in about 5 years. -- JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html JD Liddil wrote: In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this conversion manually? JD On 6/5/08, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, It's still work in progress - so not there as yet Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:43:20 +0100 I am sure I am being incredibly dense, but I can't locate the Source Template Conversion Tool (in Master Source List Options, according to the manual). I have the SourceWriter System switched on in Customise. Regards Bob Howes Carlisle, UK _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001007ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] V7 Source Text/Comments on Reports
I have a Master Source that includes a brief quote from the preface as text. I have also included a comment regarding the source in the Comments box. There is also source detail which has text. I have indicated that these should be shown on reports for the first citation only. This source has been created using the SourceWriter template. However, when I print a Family Group Report which uses this source and source detail for Name, Birth, and Death, it shows the source detail text for the first citation only (this is what I want) and the master source text and comments only for all the subsequent citations (what I don't want - I just want this to show the first time also). I've checked first time only at the source entry windows. Is there another box somewhere else that I need to check/uncheck? I hope I've explained this so that you can understand what I'm asking. -- Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Potential Problem Reports
Phil, I was curious about your question, so I've done a little investigating. First of all, I suspect that you have probably ENTERED all your surnames as capital letters. I have entered mine normally, but choose to let Legacy convert them to all caps for reports. If that is the case, then you need to click on the Standardization tab of the Potential Problems report and uncheck the last box, which considers surnames typed in all caps as a potential problem. The interesting thing I've discovered is that you can get several different formats for this report. If you click Create Problems List then you get a list that you can work with - go to each individual and edit from the list. (Fabulous feature!) If you then click Preview from that list, you can specify if you want a detailed, abbreviated, or summary report. The reports that are generated this way do not have the surnames in all caps, since I did not enter them that way. However, if I click Preview directly from the initial Potential Problems Report screen (not create list or view existing list), then the surnames are in all caps. Very interesting. Thanks for prodding me to do a little more exploring in V7. I'm very happy about it, too. Dede Holden On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Phil Stanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI I have just received V7 and am very happy with it. However I have a small problem with generating Potential Problems Reports. I prefer to have my surnames all in upper case and have set this in preferences. (Incidently, I set this in the the new set up procedure that appears on installation but it didn't seem to stiick.) Now when I generate a problem report it shows the potential problems I know about, but also flags every entry as a problem with the reason 'surname all in uppercase'. I expect I am doing something silly here, but I can't see what. Any suggestions gratefully received. Regards Phil Stanger Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins
Thanks to Cathy and Susan for your responses re: addresses in location field. I think I might add specific addresses for cemeteries and churches and some residences - only the ones I'm interested in seeing. I did finally figure out the push pin thing. Once again the LUG comes to save the day! Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Susan Daily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dede, since cemeteries and churches, etc. are used by more than one person, generally, it doesn't add tremendously to the Master Location list (although I do have 1401 locations, so maybe it does). So then you can place the pin for that cemetery and church more specifically. I wouldn't do residences, but that is a personal preference. To move the pin, right-click in the new location, and the pin will move there. I am not sure if these are covered in the videos. --Susan On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read the archives and I've read the help files, but I'm still a little confused about how the mapping and push pins work. If these questions are answered in one of the new videos, let me know and I will buy today! Question 1: If you have a street address for the cemetery, it is properly entered in the Burial Address field, which is accessed by clicking the arrow at the end of the Burial location field. When you put it in the proper place, then Map My Places only finds the location entered from the Master Location list. It does not find the specific cemetery. I have read several suggestions about how others enter this, but if you have to enter the specific street address for each location, won't this make your Master Location List rather long and cumbersome? If this is the only way, I have lots of work to do to get the mapping feature to work properly. Question 2: For some reason, the push pin for my parents' hometown comes up on the same street they live on, only five blocks south. I have NOT entered their address, so I'm guessing this is just where VE has decided to put the pin for their town. It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work. Is there a complicated reason why that is not an option? I'll take a simple not even possible. I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not, since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :) Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and genealogy!) -- Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins
Bert, That seemed logical to me, as I said, but whether I right click or left click, the map moves, not the push pin. What am I doing wrong? Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert van Kootwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rightclick on the pushpin, than you can drag it. Bert - Original Message - From: Rodney Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: 05 June 2008 11:47 To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work. Is there a complicated reason why that is not an option? I'll take a simple not even possible. I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not, since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :) Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and genealogy!) -- Dede Holden Dede, Go to the correct location and right click on the map. You will be asked if you want to make this the spot. Bingo! -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy Charting Pre-release - SUCCESS!
Earlier today, Luc posted that it was okay to delete the pre-release of Legacy Charting, once Legacy 7 Deluxe is successfully installed. I just checked. I have two desktop icons on my computer, one for the pre-release and one for Legacy Charting 7. I checked the About files for each and they are the same program. Evidently, Legacy Charting was installed over the pre-release when I installed Legacy 7 Deluxe. I simply deleted the unneeded shortcut icon. Hope this helps. Dede Holden On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received and successfully dowloaded Legacy7. Looks like a real winner. I'm confused about the Legacy Charting (pre-release). Now that I have Legacy7 should I still download the Legacy Charting or is it contained in Legacy7? Thanks, Carol In a message dated 6/5/2008 12:59:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't heard anything about Legacy Charting [pre-release] for a while now and wanted to remind folks of this option. With all the griping and complaining lately, I also wanted to post a POSITIVE message and to say THANK YOU to Millennia Corp for such a great product!!! I'm just thrilled at the result. I know the chart will be the centerpiece of the reunion and I can't wait to show it off. Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins
Bert and Rodney, I have been able to correct misplaced locations by using Resolve then right-clicking. Still can't right click and drag the push pin, though. Thanks for your help. Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodney, I also tried your advice, but when I right click at a spot in the map, nothing happens. Could this be a mouse programming problem? Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bert, That seemed logical to me, as I said, but whether I right click or left click, the map moves, not the push pin. What am I doing wrong? Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert van Kootwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rightclick on the pushpin, than you can drag it. Bert - Original Message - From: Rodney Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: 05 June 2008 11:47 To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work. Is there a complicated reason why that is not an option? I'll take a simple not even possible. I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not, since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :) Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and genealogy!) -- Dede Holden Dede, Go to the correct location and right click on the map. You will be asked if you want to make this the spot. Bingo! -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins
Rodney, I also tried your advice, but when I right click at a spot in the map, nothing happens. Could this be a mouse programming problem? Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bert, That seemed logical to me, as I said, but whether I right click or left click, the map moves, not the push pin. What am I doing wrong? Dede On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert van Kootwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rightclick on the pushpin, than you can drag it. Bert - Original Message - From: Rodney Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: 05 June 2008 11:47 To: Legacy User Group Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work. Is there a complicated reason why that is not an option? I'll take a simple not even possible. I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not, since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :) Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and genealogy!) -- Dede Holden Dede, Go to the correct location and right click on the map. You will be asked if you want to make this the spot. Bingo! -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rmhh.co.uk/ http://rmhh.org.uk/ ~~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check
I agree. When I am asked if I am adding a new person or linking to an existing person, I check link and verify that I do (or don't) already have this person. It's very simple to close the window and add the new person if he/she doesn't already exist. I've also found it a relatively simple process to merge the two if I accidentally add someone twice. I was continuously aggravated by FTM when I tried to add a new person with the same name as someone already in my file. Some people might enjoy machines that try to think for them, but a little of that goes a long way with me. Dede Holden On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM, GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could easily look at the name list to see. I have 4 Frank McKains and would have been rather frustrated if the program kept coming back and telling me the name was already used or something - is that what the dup check on entry of a person does? I (for one) am glad it is not there. I know I have dozens of repeated names (only the years and other details help tell them apart). Keith On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Larry Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a user question I had asked by my netter half. Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand. So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do? Warm regards, Larry Van Horn Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper Columnist Family Roots and Branches Genealogy Blogspot: http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins
I've read the archives and I've read the help files, but I'm still a little confused about how the mapping and push pins work. If these questions are answered in one of the new videos, let me know and I will buy today! Question 1: If you have a street address for the cemetery, it is properly entered in the Burial Address field, which is accessed by clicking the arrow at the end of the Burial location field. When you put it in the proper place, then Map My Places only finds the location entered from the Master Location list. It does not find the specific cemetery. I have read several suggestions about how others enter this, but if you have to enter the specific street address for each location, won't this make your Master Location List rather long and cumbersome? If this is the only way, I have lots of work to do to get the mapping feature to work properly. Question 2: For some reason, the push pin for my parents' hometown comes up on the same street they live on, only five blocks south. I have NOT entered their address, so I'm guessing this is just where VE has decided to put the pin for their town. It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work. Is there a complicated reason why that is not an option? I'll take a simple not even possible. I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not, since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :) Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and genealogy!) -- Dede Holden Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names
Belinda, I have Legacy 7 and just checked this out for you. From the main tool bar, you can go to Options, Customize, Data Entry. At the bottom of the screen is the global setting for changing the wife's surname, or not changing married names. You can also make this change individually at the Marriage info window. Hope this helps. Dede On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any suggestions for work arounds for the following. I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around for this situation. Thanks in advance. Belinda Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp