[Finale] Crash: Fin2007, Patterson, TGTools
Hi all, I'm working on an intensive Finale project right now, and I'm noticing something I've never seen before involving frequent Finale crashes. I'm working in WinFin2007 on XP Pro SP3 with the latest Patterson Plugins and TGTools. I'm using TGTools to map F7 to Patterson Mass Copy, so that I can select a region, hit F7 to set the source, select a destination, and hit F7 again to paste. After several times doing this (the number varies), Finale crashes with an unhandled Win32 exception. This is behavior I don't remember seeing before, especially with such regularity. My only workaround is to save my work very frequently, so that when Finale crashes I don't lose too much. This is the same computer I've had for about 4 years, so it's unlikely to be hardware related. The only difference from previous intensive Finale work periods is that I'm on SP3 now instead of SP2. Because of how I have this set up, there's no good way for me to tell whether the problem is in Finale, or in the TGTools keyboard hook, or in Mass Copy itself. Yes, I could do further testing to isolate what's going on, but I'm afraid I don't have time for that right now. So basically, I'm writing just to see whether anyone else has experienced this -- and Robert and Tobias, if you're reading, to see whether you have any idea what's going on. Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Question on Current Finale Versions Lyrics
On 1/22/2010 3:17 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: algorithm looking at the lyric syllables at all. For such a piece, I'd space the entire thing with lyrics unchecked. Then if there are one or two measures where the lyrics collide, go back and respace just those measures with lyrics checked. This brings to mind a feature request I made a few years back: spacing styles, which could be applied to measures like staff styles. There are many instances where spacing as a document-wide setting is clearly inappropriate, and having to remember to (a) change the setting, (b) space the problem measures, and then (c) change the setting back is a hassle. We should be able to set the document spacing for something like avoid lyric collisions and then apply a style to melismatic measures with avoid lyric collisions unset. Then we could space the whole piece at once. This came up in my case when I was doing a piece which moved mostly in moderato or allegro quarter notes, but which had one section in largo 4/8. For that section, I wanted wider spacing to make the change to an eighth note pulse more obvious, and I had to go through the same gymnastics of remembering to manually space that section differently. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Question on Current Finale Versions Lyrics
On 1/22/2010 9:03 AM, dc wrote: I can only second that request. Is there any place where one can officially do so? Well, you can submit something to the support people through http://makemusic.custhelp.com My feature request was made in January 2007; the reference number is 070322-041052. You can tell them that you're agreeing with the ideas in this request. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Open Recent
On 1/15/2010 10:19 AM, Mark McCarron wrote: I wish I could clear some of the files from the open recent list. Is there a way to do this? Sure -- open a bunch of new files and the old ones will drop off the list. g No, seriously, you can control the number of files which appear in this list by going to Edit | Program Options | Open. Also, you don't say whether you're on Mac or Win, but on Windows the names of the files in this list are stored in the registry at HKCU\Software\Makemusic\Finale2009\Finale\Recent File List. (Use your current version of Finale in place of 'Finale2009'.) You could go there and delete the entries under that key. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius crossgrade price $129
On 1/11/2010 6:38 AM, dhbailey wrote: You don't lose the functionality of any Finale version you have installed on your computer, and as long as you send an older version's installation CD you lose absolutely nothing from your current version, including the ability to reinstall it if you need to. Also, there's nothing stopping you from making a copy of the Finale CD before you send it in for the crossgrade. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic
On 12/28/2009 1:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: How? In Mac OS9 there was a wonderful little freeware utility called Print2Pict that would make a pict (or TIFF or GIF) out of a pdf file or anything else, but I know of nothing equivalent under OSX. I now find myself in need of importing whole pdf pages into Finale as graphics, and I sure would like to be able to do that without rebooting in System 9 each time I want to make one of these... I wasn't following the whole thread either, but the full version of Acrobat can save a PDF as a TIFF. You could also open the PDF in Illustrator and save as a TIFF. Of course, Hiro's suggestion is free for Mac. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] finale - indesign (workflow considerations)
On 12/22/2009 6:18 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: aaron, i wasn't able to do this, i even made sure to check it with a font that is defined tonever be embedded in my acrobat distiller settings. I think you mean always embedded, right? Also, this would only come into play with PDF, since EPS doesn't go through Distiller. can you gove me a bit more info on your setup and what items are checked that allow you to edit text once exported in EPS/PDF from finale? I'm working in Fin2007 on Windows. I opened a score and did Graphics | Export Pages, type EPS, all PostScript options checked. Then I opened InDesign CS2 and placed the EPS file in a new document (File | Place). I opened the EPS file in Illustrator CS2, used the text tool to change some of the text, and saved the EPS file back out, using the Illustrator defaults for EPS. The only wonky part here was that a word like Title actually became 2 bits of text in the EPS: T was one block, and itle was another. I could also use the select tool to delete text blocks. In InDesign, I did File | Preflight, which showed that my image had been modified. I hit Update, and the image updated to show my changed text. (The Finale image also moved a bit within the EPS page image; not sure why, but there's probably a way around that.) My InDesign and Illustrator settings are whatever the defaults are, because this is a new computer with a fresh install. I hope that helps a bit. My other thought was that since you're only putting the text in Finale to give you a spacing guide, couldn't you just set the text font to Hidden in Finale? That way, it would appear lightly on the screen but wouldn't appear in the EPS/PDF at all. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] finale - indesign (workflow considerations)
On 12/19/2009 3:08 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: (freehand, or something similar, i believe). is there a way to export from finale so that the text is editable using indesign (or illustrator)? or am i stuck masking it or erasing it in the graphics programme? Well, if you make PDFs of your Finale examples instead of EPS, and make sure that your PDF settings include all fonts, you can later open the PDF in Illustrator and edit the text. PDFs can also be placed in InDesign as links. - export pages (not selections) from finale in EPS (include tiff preview, include fonts, allow transparency) I'm not sure how transparency plays into all of this, or how that works with PDFs. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] finale - indesign (workflow considerations)
On 12/19/2009 3:56 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Well, if you make PDFs of your Finale examples instead of EPS, and make sure that your PDF settings include all fonts, you can later open the PDF in Illustrator and edit the text. PDFs can also be placed in InDesign as links. Actually, it looks like you can do the same with EPS -- open them up in Illustrator and edit the text. I don't use EPS much, which is why I suggested PDFs first. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] scale page vs. scale system
On 12/17/2009 8:00 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: 1) anyone feels there is some advantages of using one over the other as a default for the file I initially used page scaling, but some years back I changed to system scaling. There was a discussion about it here, and some people (Johannes? Robert? Jari?) gave some very good reasons in favor of system scaling. I like it because it means I don't need to mentally scale my page margins, and I don't need to use fixed-size text for page-attached items. 2) anyone has a brilliant solution to the different appearance of fixed font expressions with enclosures in PT and (reduced) SC, Sorry, I've never seen that, because I don't use fixed-size fonts in expressions. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] scale page vs. scale system
On 12/18/2009 8:09 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Aaron, may I ask, then, are you happy with microscopic rehearsal letters and tempo changes in your scores? Once the score sizing gets down to 60% or so (not at all unusual in an orchestra score) then all these items are illegible. For the type of thing I do (generally chamber orchestra scores at 65% on 8.5x11), it works out fine. For larger scores, it's a bit of a moot point. I wouldn't conduct from anything much smaller than 65%, so if I have more staves I would blow it up onto larger paper at a larger percentage. I think I might find that fixed sizes have the opposite problem: if they're the right size for the parts, then the proportion relative to the music in the score would be too great. So I can see the argument for something else which has been discussed, the option to specify different sizes for expressions in score and parts (either fixed or proportional). I am okay with fixed sizes for tempo marks and rehearsal letters, because there is actually an advantage to having these items be grotesquely large in the score compared with the staff height, but From a conductor's perspective, I disagree. I would rather have everything on the page be at an appropriately scaled size. By the time I get to rehearsal, I'm not really reading tempo marks and such, because I know how the piece goes, and anything I need I will have marked in my favorite 6B pencil. And if I have to lean in a bit to verify a rehearsal letter when we're starting up, I don't mind. I imagine that things might be different in the recording world, where a conductor might be leading a group through a commercial or something that he'd gotten just the day before. In that case, very large markings might help compensate for the lack of preparation time. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] nudge different according to view percent
On 12/18/2009 11:21 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: REALLY!? you mean when you are dealing with the look of the score you think it is better to change view percentages? It's funny, my instinct is to agree with Richard, but I think I've just been well trained by Finale. In layout programs like InDesign, the arrow keys nudge by fixed distances, not related to view percentages, as jef suggests. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] scale page vs. scale system
On 12/18/2009 11:43 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: The only time I've ever used page scaling was in scores for a visually challenged individual. I took a score originally sized about 5 1/2 x 8, and scaled it up 200 percent using page scaling, and printed the resulting score on 11 x 17 paper, with less than a dozen mouse clicks and a like number of key strokes. In recent Finales (at least since 2007), you don't even need page scaling for this. In the print dialog, just make sure 1-up is selected under Layout, and then check the box that says Fit to page. Select the appropriate size paper in your print driver, and Finale will (or should) autoscale it correctly, relative to the size of your page in Finale. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mass Edit
On 11/7/2009 8:10 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Fin Mac 2007. In previous versions of Finale I could COPY and then use a shortcut (COMMAND SHIFT) to Paste into the designated measures. I believe it's now just Command-Click. Take a look in the manual on the first page of the Mass Edit Tool section, under Special Mouse Clicks. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mass Edit
On 11/7/2009 8:33 AM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm. I always thought (and used) Option-shift. Well, whatever it used to be on the Mac side, try leaving out the shift key in 2007+. That's what happened on Win. Or check the manual. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Dies Irae
It may not be as classical as you intend, but the Dies Irae figures prominently throughout the score of Sweeney Todd. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Archives Down?
On 10/22/2009 1:35 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: Hi, I can't log onto the archives web page. Can someone write to me off list and confirm that the archives are down and that it's not a problem on my end? The archives appear to be fine. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Darcy! On NPR!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113726352 Congrats! Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
On 10/11/2009 2:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Oct 2009 at 12:15, Randolph Peters wrote: One quibble: the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing pales in comparison to the hassle (among other things) of the method listed above. Just drag and drop the PDF pages into the sidebar of Preview or Acrobat and resave the result. Not everyone is on a Mac. Not everyone has Acrobat. I have the PDF995 editing tools, which are free to use if you don't mind seeing the online ads, but it's not so easy as drag-and-drop to stitch together multiple PDFs. Easy is always in the eye of the beholder, of course, but on Windows there's a great free command line tool called PDFTK. Given a PDF of left hand (LH) pages and one of right hand (RH) pages, you can interlace with three easy steps: pdftk lh.pdf burst output %04d_a.pdf pdftk rh.pdf burst output %04d_b.pdf pdftk 0*.pdf cat output piano-duet.pdf Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin
On 10/3/2009 12:38 AM, Michael Greensill wrote: Now I know I don't have to upgrade every time but they always reel you in with something that can't have taken much effort to program, like chord symbols being attached to beats in 2010. But should they charge $100 for that feature. And half the time we're paying the $100 to have fixes to things that were the programmers fault in the first place. I know I posted an anti-Makemusic sentiment earlier in the thread, but now I'm going to support the other side. First of all, as has been pointed out here many times, we have no way of knowing what is easy or hard to implement for the Finale programmers. Some of us on this list do some programming, and may have a slightly better idea than most, but even so, you can't make this sort of assessment without knowing the program in question. And the particular example you gave (chord symbols attached to beats) is almost certainly *not* something easy to do. Second, I always look at these things in terms of my time. There have been several Finale upgrades which added seemingly minor things, hardly worth the price of upgrading. But my bottom line question is, Will these minor features save me enough time to justify the upgrade price? For most of us, if the new features in the upgrade save us more than 2 or 3 hours over the course of the year, the answer is probably yes. A good case in point is the ability to optimize in groups. My recollection is that the year that was introduced, there wasn't much else in the upgrade that interested me, but that one feature saved me several hours of work and made the upgrade worth it. Having said all of that, I'll flip-flop again. I think I wouldn't mind all of this so much if Makemusic just came out and said that they're switching to a subscription model. I'm not crazy about subscription models, but it's a more honest description of MM's business practices, and somehow I don't think I'd grumble so much about shelling out that $100 each year. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin
On 10/3/2009 8:34 AM, dhbailey wrote: I would definitely object to a subscription model, since that implies that if one wishes to stop subscribing then the software will stop working as of whatever date the current subscription runs out. That's not what software subscription implies, in my experience. If the subscription only carries with it automatic updates with an annual fee but will not render the software useless if one cancels one's subscription then it really isn't any different from the current system. Except that it changes expectations. As I said earlier, when I buy a piece of software, I expect more than a year's worth of bug fixes, and I expect major bugs to be fixed even after the next version comes out. For example, MS continues to put out critical fixes for Office long after the next version is released. If Makemusic just said You can buy the software, and you get one year's worth of free upgrades -- which is essentially what their practice it -- then I woudn't be bothered so much by having to shell out that money each year to get fixes to longstanding bugs. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin
On 10/3/2009 5:24 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: If Finale were a subscription program, would I be paying every year to keep using Finale 2003? Would I pay less each year to keep using it? Or would I not have to pay anything unless I wanted the current version? I answered this in my previous email. In the software subscription models I've seen, you buy the software and can use it for however long you want. The subscription part is to keep getting updates (and support, in some cases). So if you bought Fin03 and liked it, you wouldn't have to pay any more money to use it. But if you wanted any bugfixes after the first year, you'd have to pay the subscription fee to get them. If the latter, I can't see how this would be any different at all from what you already have. Right. This is what I've said a couple of times now. The difference is one of expectiations. Put simply, when I buy software, I expect bug fixes for a couple of years. Finale doesn't do that. They give you bugfixes for only one year (or less), which is more like a subscription model. So I would rather they just call it that. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Finale nail in the coffin
On 10/2/2009 2:22 PM, dhbailey wrote: Secondly, it's important that we all remember that MakeMusic has never forced anybody to upgrade. At least as far as I know, they've never put a gun to anybody's head and said Buy this upgrade for $100 or I'll blow your head off. They have forced people who deal with others (who have bought the upgrade) to buy the upgrade in order to be version compatible to share files, but that is a very small percentage of the Finale-user-base. We have also been forced to upgrade in order to continue to receive bug fixes, often important bug fixes. Most software companies bring out a major version every few years, with free bug fixes in between. Many software companies continue to provide free important bug fixes for the previous version (or two) even after the next one has come out. Makemusic has done neither of these things, essentially moving to a subscription model without saying so. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Trill to notes in Finale 2010?
On 9/30/2009 8:43 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hmm, I use Bill Duncan's Finale Productivity fonts, which contain parenthesised noteheads with and without sharps, flats and naturals, The Engraver font contains the same characters. I guess you could define your own artculations with them. As for TGTools, the parenthesized trill notes tool is part of the full packages, not the lite version that comes with Finale. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tempo Detection in Audacity
On 9/26/2009 4:11 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Or am I stuck doing this manually (ugh!)? I know this isn't what you were asking, but why is doing it manually so tough? If you have a stopwatch and Excel, you can get the metronome timings just by counting off a few beats and plugging the duration into a formula. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] harp pedal diagram
On 9/11/2009 9:48 PM, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone use the engraver text fonts to do graphical harp pedal diagrams? (O, shift -O, P, shift -P) A much better solution is Matthew Hindson's freeware Harp Pedal font: http://www.hindson.com.au/wordpress/free-fonts-available-for-download/ I've used this for a few projects and been very pleased. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names
On 8/26/2009 2:41 AM, terry cano wrote: I was able to get a part to extract but the Inst name doesn't appear on the extracted part...it is in the Staff (Full and Abrv) on the score In 2008, the instrument name doesn't get automatically copied from the staff when you extract a part. You need to put a text insert in your score containing the Score/Part Name, and set it to show in the parts but be hidden in the score. (I think this is done for you automatically if you create a new score from a 2008 template.) This has to do with linked parts. An extracted part in 2008 is nothing more than a saved copy of the linked part. And if you think about it, a linked part can't automatically insert anything -- it has to be something that you put there. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT: How marked-up can/should rental parts be?
On 8/20/2009 6:43 PM, Daniel Wolf wrote: bargaining position vis a vis the publishers.) But the most immediate concern is that I just got a set of parts returned from a major European radio orchestra. They are completely marked-up, with bowings and much more. Should the orchestra have cleaned them up? Should I erase all of these marks, or should some of them be kept? It depends what your rental agreement says. When I rent music from publishers, the agreement usually stipulates that parts should be returned free of markings, and that a fee may be charged if they are not (to cover the publisher's time in erasing them). This implies that the publisher sends out clean parts, the renter marks them, uses them, and cleans them, and then sends back clean parts. In practice, just about all the rental parts I get arrive with lots of markings in them. I erase those markings, add my own, use the parts -- and then return them with my markings still in. The net effect on my time is the same: one cycle of marking and one of cleaning. I have never complained to a publisher about markings already in the parts, and I have never been charged by a publisher for leaving markings in. In part, this works because of what you suggest. It can actually save me time if parts arrive with bowings and such already in them, unless I have strong preferences for a different set of markings. But I never rent assuming that the parts will have usable markings. Sometimes a set arrives with half the parts marked one way and half another. Sometimes a set actually arrives clean! You as the publisher need to decide which way you want to handle this. And if your agreement states that parts should be returned clean, and you decide to hold renters to this, then you should also make sure that you send out the parts clean. Pricing is a whole other issue. You're right that none of the publishers like to talk about this directly. My experience has mostly been with renting music on behalf of small to medium sized dance and opera companies, and in general I assume that one way or another I will wind up paying about 10% of the potential gross of the concert for rentals and royalties. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: jazz articulations
On 7/28/2009 12:56 PM, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa! Sorry about the multiple posts! I only sent once. You're fine -- only one came through. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts for text-related items in scores
On 7/14/2009 3:30 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: In any way that ordinary users use fonts, I'm not sure it's even possible to use the fonts when the software isn't running. Since the EULA comes with MS Office, I think the question is what the user is allowed to to when *Office* isn't running, not when there's no software running at all. That is, does the EULA allow for the use of these fonts in other software programs, like Illustrator or Finale? The EULA appears to neither allow nor deny this use. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts for text-related items in scores
On 7/13/2009 2:10 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: ClearType is a specific method of type definition*, developed and owned by Microsoft, introduced with Vista. The purpose of ClearType was to enhance screen readability. ... typeface in two different languages, which may have behaved differently in different software. ClearType is a new such language. A minor correction (and I haven't been following this whole discussion): ClearType is not a font programming language or a method of type definition. It is a technology for displaying fonts on digital displays, regardless of whether those fonts are TrueType or OpenType (or PS I guess, though I haven't used those in a long time). There are no ClearType font files. The so-called ClearType fonts (Calibri et al.) are ordinary OpenType fonts which were designed to be optimized for ClearType display. In fact, if you're using them on any display device which does not support ClearType, or which does not have ClearType enabled (like any CRT monitor), they tend to look worse than other fonts. (They all print very nicely.) Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts for text-related items in scores
On 7/13/2009 2:10 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: ClearType is a specific method of type definition*, developed and owned by Microsoft, introduced with Vista. Also, ClearType was introduced with XP, though I think it may have been off by default. It can be turned on in the Display control panel. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts for text-related items in scores
On 7/13/2009 2:34 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: Thanks for the correction. But is it not true that to be optimized for ClearType display they must have data in them that the ClearType renderer reads? Did OpenType fonts have this data all along, or is it new? My understanding is that there is no extra data used by the ClearType rendering engine. ClearType is essentially a method of font smoothing which uses the existing curves and hints in the font file to make the screen display look better. The difference between ClearType and earlier smoothing technologies is that it makes explicit use of the fact that a pixel on an LCD monitor is actually 3 separate RGB pixels crammed in next to each other. So it is able to fool our eyes by smoothing at a subpixel level. There's a good discussion of this here: http://www.grc.com/ct/ctwhat.htm The proof of this is that ClearType makes all TrueType fonts look better, not just those optimized for the technology. The only kind of font ClearType can't work with is the really old bitmapped fonts; a bitmapped font contains specific recipes to place pixels at specific font sizes, whereas TrueType et al. define curves to be filled in by pixels. (I'm simplifying a little.) For example, the default Windows font for menus and so forth used to be a bitmapped font called MS Sans Serif. I think as early as Windows 2000 they started also shipping a font caleld Microsoft Sans Serif, which was just a TrueType version of the earlier font. Newer versions of Windows use Tahoma or Segoe, both TrueType fonts. Anyway, you may have had the experience of using an older application alongside newer ones, and the text in the dialog boxes of the older app looks *awful*. This is because the older app is probably hardcoded to use MS Sans Serif, which can't be improved by ClearType, and it looks particularly bad next to the smooth goodness in other apps. As to optimized for ClearType, my understanding is that those particular fonts were designed with an understanding of how the ClearType display algorithms would work on them, and so the curves were plotted in such a way that they would look particularly good after they were run through ClearType. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Linked parts--yes or no?
On 7/3/2009 11:32 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: There IS new material to learn. Extracted parts have to go through the same new part creation process that linked parts do. If you use the Setup Wizard, most of the work is done for you, but if you open a pre-2007 file in 2007 or later, you have to create the parts, then extract them. It's not hard, you just have to read the manual. Just to clarify, the process is actually very simple. If you open a pre-2007 file and go to Extract Parts, you'll see that there are no parts listed. All you have to do, in most cases, is press the button that says Generate Parts. Then your parts magically appear in the dialog, and you can extract them. In some cases, you'll have to go into the Manage Parts dialog and make some changes before extracting. The reason for all of this is from Fin2007 on, an extracted part is nothing more and nothing less than a saved copy of a linked part. So in order to extract parts, Finale first creates the linked parts (if you haven't already) and then saves each one to its own file. If you have no interest in the conveniences of linked parts, you don't need to actually work with them at all. You can pretend they're not even there and just work with the extracted copies. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Can't make PDFs from Finale 2k9 Mac
On 6/18/2009 9:11 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: very small jobs. Do I now have to get 2k10 to get this fixed? If that is the case Sibelius is becoming a very likely option. I am certainly not going to feed the folks at MM for their ridiculous bugs. I agree that this is an unfortunate side effect of MM's yearly upgrade schedule, which essentially becomes a subscription model. When a new release comes out, MM completely stops fixing any bugs in previous versions, meaning that the usable lifespan of each release is only a year. If you want bugfixes after that, you need to buy the next version -- and hope that the new bugs aren't worse than the old ones. This is especially frustrating for something like the current Finale 2010 release. It doesn't have an awful lot of new functionality and would probably be considered a point release by some other software companies -- that is, an intermediate upgrade which goes out free to owners of the existing version. I don't think this is particularly customer-friendly behavior from MM, but ultimately they must feel it makes financial sense for them. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced
On 5/31/2009 8:43 PM, John Howell wrote: I fully realize that different people have different ways of working, but I find this particular argument (duration before pitch or pitch before duration) rather amusing. In hand copying (remember doing THAT, anyone?!!), you do both simultaneously, placing a note on a line or space and making it black or white, and then finish up the details. But in hand copying you *don't* do both simultaneously. You first move your hand to the right position on the staff, and then you put a specific kind of note there. There's no other way to do it in hand copying -- you can't draw a note of a specific duration until you have first decided what the pitch is going to be. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced
On 5/31/2009 9:39 PM, John Howell wrote: Hi, Aaron. Not meaning to be picky, but you're breaking a single integrated action up into two distinct actions (which is what Finale, Sibelius, and Mosaic all do). When I move my hand I already know both the pitch and the duration I'm going to write, so it's a single mental action, and that single action encompasses note placement, note shape, and note color. The computer only knows one thing at a time. I think your choice of words is clouding your argument here. I agree that the mental decision to write a certain note generally encompasses both the pitch and the duration, but the act of writing that note consists of two steps -- moving your pen to the correct staff level and then drawing the appropriate duration. You use the word action for both the mental and physical parts of this, and then you seem to imply that because the former is indivisible, the latter must be also. But this is not true. Compare, for example, hand copying of music with old style engraving with punches. It is clear that the two methods require a different order to the component actions. In hand copying, you move to the correct pitch and then draw a duration. With punches, you have to pick up the punch of the correct duration before you can place the note on the staff. In both cases, the engraver knows beforehand both pitch and duration, and yet the order is clearly important. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced
On 5/31/2009 9:48 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Sure you can. I do it all the time. It's a great way to compose, actually, writing the rhythms and maybe an approximate contour, then go back and choose the pitches. I can only do it with a pencil, though (so far!) But I think you two are talking apples and oranges. John was discussing copying, implying that you already know what you are putting down on paper. Actually, I was discussing copying as well. I hadn't thought about it, but I can certainly see why duration first might be useful for a composer. That's an important distinction. Good thing Finale allows for both, as we keep coming back to. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced
On 5/30/2009 12:22 AM, Ralph Whitfield wrote: I'll spring for it just for the rehearsal marks and percussion updates. This has been my attitude for several years with Finale. Of course, we'd all like to see updates that get us really excited about a host of new features and bugfixes and which we're clearly happy to pay for. But the truth is, if the new features don't seem that exciting or extensive but still save you just a few hours of work over the course of a year, it's worth paying the $99 from a time/money standpoint. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] End point of Smart Slur glissandi and accidentals
On 5/26/2009 8:09 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: As far as I know, the shapes are not that smart. I do it by hand. I am also eager to know if there's an automated solution. TGTools has a wonderful function to adjust the ends of glissandi for accidentals (Modify | Shift). So my base settings assume no accidentals, and then I just zip through section by section with TGTools. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 woes
On 5/17/2009 10:30 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: believe that Finale would not create multi-measure rests automaticallyso, what am I failing to do before I extract my parts? It depends a bit on what your workflow is. If you want MM rests created automatically, you need to go to Document | Manage Parts. Click on Part Creation Preferences and make sure that Create MM rests is checked. I think you'll need to save this in your template to make sure that all new documents inherit it. If you're working in an existing score, and if you haven't yet created linked parts, you can visit this dialog before you do so and make sure that the box is checked. If you're working in an existing score and you've already created linked parts, then select the Measure tool and go to Measure | Multimeasure Rests | Create for Parts/Score. Click Select All, then deselect the Score, and hit OK. (I know you're talking about extracted parts, but in Fin07 and later, extracted parts are nothing more than extracted copies of the linked parts. So whatever you do to the linked parts will be present when you extract.) Hope this helps. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
On 4/5/2009 6:23 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: that I created while using 2K4c. Does this change anything with regard to making parts with instrument labels the default behavior now that I am using 2K7? Yes. As I indicated, instrument labels will only be generated in extracted (or linked) parts if the text box with Part/Score Name is present in your score. If you want this label always to be present in new scores you create, you need to edit your default file and put the text box in. Otherwise, you will need to add the text box in each new score you make. Christopher indicated that the part generation process remains the same, which is true. But the part labels will not be there unless the text box is there first, either because the current document comes from a template that has the text box, or because you added the text box to the document yourself. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2K7 question
On 4/4/2009 11:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: When I extract parts in 2K7, I do not see the staff name on the extracted part. For example: Trumpet 1 in Bb Christopher Smith gave you some answers having to do with linked parts, which were introduced in 2007. If you want to go the old-fashioned Extract Parts route, Finale will still generate linked parts automatically behind the scenes; an extracted part is just a linked part snapshot split out into its own file. If you go through the Extract Parts dialog and you only see Score listed, you first need to click the Generate Parts button to get Finale to create the linked parts. You can then check off the parts you want and extract. Now, to get back to your original question about part names. What you will need to do is first generate the linked parts. Then go to page view in your score and add a text box. In this text box, put in the text insert that says Part/Score Name. Now you want to make sure that this text box is hidden in the score (because a box that says Score isn't helpful) but displays in the parts. On Windows, I would hold down the Ctrl key, right click on the text box, and choose Hide. I don't know what the Mac equivalents are to Ctrl and right-clicking. The text box will now appear a light orange in the score (meaning unlinked and hidden) and regular orange in the part (meaning unlinked and showing). If you create a new score through the setup, this should be taken care of for you automatically, since the default files that come with 2007 include this text box. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] controlling the Selection Tool
On 3/22/2009 12:22 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Is there some trick I am missing having to do with how to control Selection Tool behavior? When I am doing editing work that involves a lot of moving elements selected with the tool, the dialog box associated with the expression (for instance) will appear before I can move the expression. Off the top of my head, sounds to me like a mouse issue, not a Finale issue. It sounds like there's a short in your mouse which is sending a double-click rather than a click. Does this happen to you in other applications? If you go to move a file icon on your desktop, for example, do you find that the file opens before you can move it? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] create mp3 files!
On 3/20/2009 7:35 AM, Rod McDonald wrote: 'Save As' only allows me to save as midi file while 'export to Audio' only allows me to save as a .wav file. I seem unable to save as mp3. No 'Save as Audio' option!!! You said you were on WinFin2009b. The process there is File | Export to Audio File. Click the radio button that says 'Compressed MP3 File'. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] create mp3 files!
On 3/20/2009 7:35 AM, Rod McDonald wrote: allows me to save as a .wav file. I seem unable to save as mp3. No 'Save as Audio' option!!! Guess midi will have to do! Of course, you could also save as a WAV and convert to MP3 with any number of free utilities. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Garritan on old files
On 3/20/2009 10:51 AM, Richard Huggins wrote: I was excited to hear the much-improved orchestral sounds of Finale 2009. I opened an old file so I cold hear it with these sounds, but instead the old sounds were heard. How do I achieve playback using the Garritan sounds that shipped with '09? If you take a look in the user manual, there's a tutorial called GPO and HP Tutorial. This covers converting old scores to use the new sounds, as well as creating new scores that use these sounds. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] create mp3 files!
On 3/20/2009 3:20 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: iTunes is quick and easy for audio format conversions, but for mass conversions I use Max, a free utility that gives more options. iTunes is generally considered not to be a particularly good quality MP3 converter. In general, LAME is considered to be one of the best encoders, and there are lots of free apps which use LAME to do encoding. (Including Max.) On Windows, I use RazorLame, which is nothing more than a (somewhat outdated) graphical front end to the LAME command-line app. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Default document
On 3/15/2009 4:42 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: How did you do that? The help folder contains a large number of .htm and image files. Is there a User Manual in pdf separate from the help system? The Finale help system was changed in Finale 2008. Earlier versions have a manual in PDF form; the most recent two versions have an HTML-based system. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] so simple - so strangely missing
On 3/8/2009 1:34 PM, Katherine Hoover wrote: 1. I wish to delete some finale files. Simple, eh? Moved them to trash singly. Wouldn't go in. Moved them to trash as a group. No dice. Dragged one to desktop to try from there - it made a new copy. Well, this isn't a Finale issue. It's something going on with your operating system. (You don't say if you're on Mac or Win.) On the other hand, if you've got the file open in Finale at the same time that you're trying to delete it, it won't work. Files can't be deleted by the system if they're in use by some application. 2. Also embarrassingly simple but I've spent too much time on this as well: How do I get a new folder into my listing of files to organize it? Again, I'm not sure what you mean here by listing of files, but it sounds like you're talking about something that's OS related and not FInale related. In Windows, you would right-click in a folder window and choose New -Folder. 3. Not quite so simple: what is the easiest way of setting up a part for - say Bb Clarinet on the right pitch but without a key signature? At this point I make the file in the automatic fashion, go to Staff, Edit Staff Attributes, and choose No Key. What you want do do is select Chromatic transposition, up M2. That will get all the notes to play back a whole step lower than written. You'll still need to enter any accidentals in the part, but they'll play back correctly. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finaletips site?
On 2/23/2009 7:20 PM, David McKay wrote: Googling Finale tips I found http://www.jameskass.com/finale/finale_tips.html http://www.hindson.com.au/wordpress/2005/07/11/10-assorted-finale-tips/ http://home.swipnet.se/~w-52653/Finale/ The last of these is Jari's site, to which Johannes was referring. It used to live at the domain name finaletips.nu. That domain name no longer resolves anywhere, although it looks like Jari still owns it. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 11:57 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I just made a recording of a choir rehearsal last night with my H2 digital. I recorded in the MP3 mode. It is possible to edit said files (other than just splitting a file on the H2) once they are uploaded to my Mac? I believe that most audio editing programs are able to open MP3s. Take a look, for example, at the open source Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net However, keep in mind that MP3s are like JPG images -- they use lossy compression, meaning every time you edit and save, you introduce some artifacts (which may or may not be audible/visible). This is why it's always better to record and edit in a non-lossy format like WAV or AIFF, and then convert to MP3 if needed when you're sending the finished product to someone else. What you might want to do is open this MP3 in Audacity and save it as a WAV. Then you can edit, save, edit, save, etc. as much as you like with the WAV without further degradation of the original MP3. And then again, only convert your finished WAV to MP3 when you're done, if needed. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 4:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 13 Feb 2009, at 4:02 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: Hmm. I was unaware that there were mainstream apps that could edit MP3s natively. There certainly are. You can open an MP3 in QuickTime Player and edit it directly there without converting to some other format. And Fission (the app I use to split long single audio files recorded at my gigs into individual tracks and normalize them) also works on whatever audio format you begin with, without converting anything. That goes against my understanding; I'll have to look into it some more. You are right that that up-sampling *shouldn't* introduce any new artifacts. But if you take an MP3, up-sample it and save as WAV, and then (without editing anything) down-sample it and save it as an MP3, the resultant MP3 will sound worse than the original MP3. Yes, but that's not because of the *upsampling* -- it's because of the subsequent re-downsampling. as even more of a reason not to save the file out as a WAV file before editing, since (if I understand the situation correctly) any work you do in Audacity will always be done in its own native format. Yes, but Audacity's native format is still lossless, like WAV, so there's no penalty there. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 5:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Instead, my first suggestion would be to use an editing application that operates on the original MP3 file and does not require you to re- encode -- which, as far as I know, is what is happening with the app I use (Fission). I don't believe that is true, although I don't have direct experience with Fission. But David's and Lee's comments seem to back me up. Looking around a bit more on the web, I do think we need to distinguish different kinds of editing. It appears that certain kinds of edits can be made to MP3s without needing to recode, namely splitting up an MP3 into pieces and applying gain. (See http://sherber.com/url/3c , for example.) Other kinds of edits I think require re-encoding. Failing that: assuming David is correct that Audacity has its own native format, then Step 1 above seems unnecessary. Just open the MP3 in Audacity, make the edit, then save back to MP3. Yes -- unless you plan to do more editing. Keeping in mind that every save to MP3 format degrades quality, what you want to avoid is open the MP3, make an edit, save back to MP3. Open the new MP3 a week later, make some more edits, save back to MP3. Repeat again the next day. You've now re-saved as MP3 3 times, introducing more artifacts along the way. If you open the MP3 and save your intermediate work each time as a WAV, you incur no further loss penalty until you're done and you convert your WAV to MP3 to share with others. (It's the same with images. If someone sends you a JPG that you plan to edit repeatedly, you should first open it and save it as a TIF, and then make all your edits to the TIF. When you're done editing, you can export the TIF as a JPG for portability, keeping your source TIF for any further changes. If you edit and save as JPG, you incur loss and introduce artifacts each time.) Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 6:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: These are, in fact, the only kinds of edits Fission allows (cut paste, normalization and fades), Ah, interesting. Lee, can you comment on this? Is it true that these kinds of edits can be made to an MP3 without needing to recode afterwards? (It makes a certain amount of sense. For example, with the right software you can rotate a JPG 90 deg. and save losslessly.) Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
I'm going to preface all of this by saying that I'm always happy to be proved wrong in things like this. On 2/13/2009 7:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: The usual method is to have, say, a 15% compression ratio. When you open a file, your graphics editing progam knows what the compression ratio that it was saved at is, I don't believe that's true. Neither Paint Shop Pro nor GIMP appear to display this information; I suppose they may know it internally, but this is the first I've heard this assertion. Actually, look at http://photo.net/learn/jpeg/#ijg . It discusses a utility which allows the *estimation* of the quality settings for any given JPG. It also says It would be most useful for Jpeg writing software to list the prior quality level so you could rewrite (if necessary) at the same level. I do lots of graphics editing and while I keep TIFs as my source files, I do lots of editing in JPGs once the graphic has reaced a certain point in the editing process. And that includes multiple edits and multiple saves, and the quality does not decrease with each save. Well, see http://www.faqs.org/faqs/jpeg-faq/part1/section-10.html , which would seem to disagree with you. They do say that relatively little further degradation occurs, but that's not the same as no change in quality. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 7:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I don't think this is correct, Aaron. When you edit the MP3, you aren't editing the original data, but a waveform that is result of expanding the data from the MP3 file. If you save that waveform to exactly the same bitrate as the original source MP3, you won't lose anything that was not already missing in the original MP3. I really don't think the latter part of this is true. I think the waveform will include some data which is interpolated from the lossy MP3. When you then save again to MP3, those interpolations are themselves subject to lossy compression -- they're not just recognized as interpolations and tossed out somehow. As always, this is only the opinion of a reasonably experience layman. If anyone has links to contradictory information, please share. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 8:08 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: They don't display the information, but PSP, at least (which is what I use for all my graphics editing -- I can't stand the GIMP), does not continue to compress the file beyond its current compression ration. Except that I don't think PSP has any way of actually determining a file's current compression ratio. Try it in PSP. I just took a file and saved it 6 times with compression set at 15%. When I compare the version saved 6 times to the original it is absolutely indistinguishable. Were you closing and opening the file, or just hitting Save 6 times? The latter won't do anything, because each time you hit Save, PSP just compresses and writes out the bitmap it has in memory. And in the former case, the sources I have read do say that saving in the same app with the same compression ratio produces virtually no artifacts. And that artifacts would really only appear in areas you've edited, so that repeated opening and saving wouldn't be expected to show any degradation. But this whole conversation has been about editing files. It's only the save process that discards data, and if you're saving back to the same compression ratio as the source file, you won't see any difference at all. If you're saving back with the same application, at the same compression ratio, with no edits, then I suppose you're right. It says that if you're saving at the same ratio, any loss is very tiny. My experience says that for all practical purposes, there is no loss. I'm not disagreeing with you here. But practical purposes vary from user to user. The fact is that there *is* further loss, and the loss may be noticeable depending on the size of the source file, the compression ratio applied, and the users' eye. I do note that the JPGs that I saved don't have the same file size: Well, that in itself indicates that the files are not *strictly* identical. Of course, I didn't actually do any edits, just saved the file. Right. And as the articles point out, edited areas of the photo will show greater loss. I think your concerns are overblown. Quite possibly. I'm just pointing out guidelines for best and safest practice: Always save your master in a non-lossy format. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 9:12 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: It doesn't actually need to. Once the file is open, it's an uncompressed bitmap, with 100% of the information that the original file contains. As long as the save uses the same compression ratio, the result should be, for all intents and purposes, identical. Yes -- for all intents and purposes. But the difference is a few bytes, a tiny percentage of the whole datastream, which means there can't possibly be any *visible* difference. First, let me say that in general, I agree with you here. However, this thread has been all about lossy compression in the context of file *editing*. If you edit a JPG in any non-trivial way (and I don't know offhand exactly what that definition is) and save it again as a JPG, the changed parts of the photo will be subject to recompression, possibly resulting in visible artifacts. Also -- and I admit this isn't particularly relevant here -- comparing file sizes isn't really an adequate way of comparing the files. You're saying that because one file is only a few bytes bigger or smaller, there can't be much difference between the two. But of course, even if the two JPGs were exactly the same size, the actual data could be wildly different. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing
On 2/13/2009 8:29 PM, Richard Yates wrote: I have heard the first theory and decided to test it. I opened a high resolution photo in Photoshop and saved it with the maximum compression as a jpg. Then reopened it and saved again with maximum compression. After repeating this seven times I can see no further degradation after the first compression. The file size remains exactly the same also. Yes. If a JPG is opened and saved, with no editing, by the same application, at the same compression ratio, you will likely see no visible degradation. But the thrust of this discussion has assumed that there is editing going on. If you make edits to the JPG and save it again, the parts which were edited will be recompressed and degraded in a way which may or may not be visible. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] (no subject)
On 2/12/2009 7:31 PM, Katherine Hoover wrote: 1. In Finale 2000 and before, I could hit say a quarter note with the 4 key (on a Mac) and it would turn into an 8th. My Finale 2004 will not do this. I have to erase and do over. Is there a way to reset this? You don't say what entry method you're using. And I no longer have 2004 around, but in 2007 and later this still works in Speedy Entry. 2. The program automatically fills in a measure, that I have not necessarily finished, with rests. I am told there is a way to reset this. Will I find it under options? Depending on what entry method you're using, look at Simple | Options or Speedy | Options. Uncheck 'Fill with rests at end of measure'. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hiding Notes and Rest
On 1/30/2009 5:12 PM, David Rhodes wrote: In Finale 2k9b when I try to hide notes or rest with the plug-in or H key it only dims them.. I attach Chord Symbols to rest and then hide them to leave the symbols to use as guides. The earlier versions completly hid rest until you revealed them again.. How do you hide rest completely in 2009 windows? They are hidden -- that is, they won't print. They show up gray on screen to remind you that something is there. You can change how light they appear on screen by going to Program Options | View and changing the value for Hidden Object Shading (0=invisible, 100=black). You can also hide them by unchecking View | Show | Hidden Notes and Rests. I generally recommend using the second method. The reason is that I sometimes use invisible expressions to do things like change tempo or instruments. Changing the Hidden Options Shading to 0 will hide expressions as well, and then I'll never find them. Unchecking Hidden Notes and Rests, however, will only affect notes and rests and will leave non-printing expressions displayed as gray. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Full measure rests
At 05:28 AM 12/26/2008, Johannes Gebauer wrote: There are a lot of things for which this is true. I sent in a feature request a few years ago for something like staff styles that could be used for note spacing. (I had a piece that went along nicely in 4/4 and 3/4 and then had a section in very slow 4/8. I wanted a wider spacing for the 4/8 to make it clearer that it didn't just clip along like 2/4 in the main tempo.) But this you can do easily without staff styles. Just space the piece by sections with different settings. Yes, of course -- but then you have to remember to go in and change the settings each time you want to respace a section. Not what I would call easily. It would be so much better if you could save the spacing preferences (or other preferences, as I suggested) on a section by section basis, and then just respace the entire piece as needed. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Full measure rests
At 11:38 AM 12/25/2008, Robert Patterson wrote: As for centering double wholes, I don't know a great way. A not-so-painful workaround would be to turn off Display Whole Rests in Empty Bars (using a staff style if need be) in the 4/2 passage. Then apply the double-whole rest as an expression in the empty bars. You should be able to design one that autopositions correctly. If there is a better way than this, I'd like to know it too. TGTools! Modify | | Shift Rests. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Full measure rests
At 12:06 PM 12/25/2008, Aaron Sherber wrote: TGTools! Modify | | Shift Rests. That should be Modify | Rests | Shift Rests, of course. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Full measure rests
At 12:52 PM 12/25/2008, Robert Patterson wrote: Do the rests retain their positioning in the parts if you use TGTools? Sadly, no. TGTools appears to figure out how wide the measure is and apply an EVPU offset to the rest. The offset is the same in score and parts, so if there are different measure widths, or if you later change measure widths, you're out of luck. And would this not also break up multimeasure rests? Well, simply entering the double whole rest breaks MM rests, regardless of what you do with the positioning. Sorry, I guess I was just answering the detail question of how to position the rest, not really thinking about the larger issues. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Full measure rests
At 04:46 PM 12/25/2008, David W. Fenton wrote: It would be nice if this were something you change in staff styles. There are a lot of things for which this is true. I sent in a feature request a few years ago for something like staff styles that could be used for note spacing. (I had a piece that went along nicely in 4/4 and 3/4 and then had a section in very slow 4/8. I wanted a wider spacing for the 4/8 to make it clearer that it didn't just clip along like 2/4 in the main tempo.) Really, what would probably be most useful would be the ability to apply to a measure or group of measures a style which could alter any of the base settings in Document Options. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] O.T. Professional MP3 players
Hi all, I thought I might tap the collective expertise of this list on a different topic. I have a need for an iPod-like portable music player with the following requirements: 1. Hard-drive based (not flash) 2. Must support WAV playback 3. Must have a single-track mode, like CD players 4. Good quality output jack The iPod itself fails on #3 -- unless you set up each track as its own album, which has a different set of issues for me. And the output jack is only average. Does anyone have any suggestions for brands or models to look at? Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Professional MP3 players
At 03:49 PM 11/14/2008, Darcy James Argue wrote: Do you mean the ability to play a single track once and then stop? The iPod has that, too. Yes, I do mean that. I have been unable to find this on my Nano 3G, and I've also seen it discussed elsewhere as a shortcoming of the iPod. If you have different info, could you please share? It's quite possible I'm missing the blindingly obvious. I also suspect you'd have a great deal of difficulty finding a portable MP3 player with a better output jack than the iPod. Do you get better results from the headphone jack, or from something that plugs into the dock connector? I have seen differing opinions. I did in the past see players with RCA outputs, which would be preferable in my case. (Yes, I know I can also get a patch cable to go from headphone jack to RCA.) Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Professional MP3 players
At 04:14 PM 11/14/2008, Darcy James Argue wrote: My recollection was that if you chose a song from the Song menu instead of the Album menu, it would stop after one song, but I just tried that now and it seems I was mistaken. You do actually need to set up a playlist for each song in order to do what you want. Ah, that's what I thought. Thanks for checking. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] getting rid of bar lines
At 08:43 PM 11/3/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone know how to get rid of bar lines? Go to a less crowded bar. (Or use the Measure Tool to set the barline style on a single bar or small group of bars to Invisible. Or set the staff attributes to not display barlines, to suppress barlines on all measures on that staff. Or define a staff style that doesn't display barlines, and apply it to a group of measures.) Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fonts
At 06:02 AM 10/29/2008, Lawrence David Eden wrote: What are Font Annotation Files and what do they do? Basically, they describe the bounding box of characters in a font, so that Finale can allot the proper amount of space for collision avoidance of text expressions and articulations. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Selecting Partial Measures (Stupid Question)
At 01:12 PM 10/18/2008, Neal Gittleman wrote: In the old days I was accustomed to selecting partial measures just by clicking and dragging the mouse. Now the click highlights the entire bar Start your click-drag outside the staff, slightly above or below it. The entire measure will only be selected if you click inside the bar. When copying music via shift-option-click, how do you get to the old dialogue that asks how many times you want to copy? In Windows, it's Alt-Ctrl-click. Take a look in the help file under Copying Music in the Encyclopedia. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sending parts via email
At 06:03 AM 10/15/2008, Lawrence David Eden wrote: To clarify: I am on a Mac running OS X. The client is on a PC. I have Stuffit and can ZIP the files. You can also create a zip file right from the Finder (is it still called that?), as others have pointed out. I think it's caleld creating an archive on Mac. Are there any cross-platform issues with Zipping the .pdf files? No. I use Eudora as my mail program. While I agree that a zip file is the way to go, your original question was about attaching multiple files. In Eudora, this is easy. Just do Message | Attach and select all the files you want to attach. If the files are all in the same directory, you should be able to grab them all at once. Alternately, in Windows you can select files in Explorer and just drag them onto an open message to attach them; I would imagine you could do the same thing in Mac with Finder. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] sending parts via email
At 08:02 PM 10/14/2008, Lawrence David Eden wrote: My question is: Can I send all 40 parts in 1 large mailing, or do I need to send each part separately? You should be able to send them all together. I know how to do the latter, but if I can send them in a bulk mailing, I need directions. That depends entirely on what email application you're using. You could also put all the PDFs into a single zip file and just send the zip file. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposing from percussion clef
At 08:22 AM 10/13/2008, Dana Friedman wrote: it before, but had never used it. Thanks. However, this particular rendition of the score is ONLY for playback/recording to an MP3. I don't care if it's a little messy, as I'm not touching the original :). Once the MP3's made, this version of the score gets trashed. :)...Nonetheless, if editing the percussion map will allow for a single score for playback, conducting, and parts..well, that's what we call a good thing. That's the technical term, anyway. Yeah, you can do all you want by editing the percussion map. Maps are really ugly, and the interface isn't great to to work with, but it makes sense eventually. Bascially, the percussion map lets you correlate three things: (1) the MIDI note you play or enter when you want a certain sound, (2) where on the staff you want that sound to appear, and (3) what MIDI note Finale needs to output in order to produce that sound. So for example, take a look at the General MIDI entry and playback map, and look at where it says MIDI Pitch 38 D2. That line says that when you enter MIDI 38 (D2) into Finale, you want Finale to place the notes in the third space, and you want to use regular closed and open noteheads. And when Finale plays back, you want also it to emit MIDI 38. In most general MIDI setups, this will produce an acoustic snare sound. Now, for example, for a piece I just finished, I wanted snare to show up on the fourth line, and I wanted to enter it that way too (like a treble clef D). So I went down to MIDI Pitch 74 (D5), and I changed that so that the notes displayed on the fourth line, and I changed the playback pitch to 38. (If I'd wanted to, I could have also changed the noteheads to be Xs or something.) So when I entered a treble D, Finale put the note on the fourth line, and when it played back it still emitted MIDI 38, which triggered the snare drum. The final step, as David Bailey pointed out, is making sure that your entries are active. Probably the easiest way to do this is to click the All Notes button in the lower right. You'll notice that asterisks appear next to each line in the map; this means that each translation entry is now active. So in your case, if you've got the notes where you want them, all you have to do is select each entry you use on your percussion staff and change the playback note to be a third lower. If your snare plays back on MIDI pitch 35 instead of 38, then select the line for MIDI 38 and change Playback Note to 35, leaving everything else alone. You've just told Finale that where you have input MIDI 38, you want Finale to playback MIDI 35. Above all, have a big cup of coffee before you start, and save a copy of your score so you can always go back if something gets screwed up. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposing from percussion clef
At 09:16 AM 10/13/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: consistently the same, then the simplest solution is to copy the percussion staff to a scratch staff that is NOT a percussion staff, transpose the notes on that staff using Mass Edit/Selection Tool, then copy it back to the percussion staff. Or, as I suggested, just set the notatin style on the percussion staff to Standard, transpose, and set it back to Percussion. No need for a scratch staff at all! Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposing from percussion clef
At 06:54 AM 10/13/2008, dhbailey wrote: Actually they won't work properly, because percussion maps require that each line/space which is used be defined properly for playback AND they be selected to be included in that percussion map. simply putting the note on the new line or space will do nothing to get playback to work properly. From the original poster's description, it's possible that she already has her map set up so that if the notes were transposed down a third, the new slots are already defined and activated the way she wants them. If not, then as both you and I suggested, it will probably be less work just to edit the existing map to alter playback pitches rather than muck around with moving the notes *and* altering the map. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin08 changes
At 05:46 PM 10/12/2008, Robert Patterson wrote: I finally graduated to using Fin08 for all my new work, and I am now greatly missing the old Mass Mover metatools. Is there any way to assign metatools to transpositions and also to viewing elapsed time? Look in the help file, encyclopedia section, under metatools. The old mass mover metatools are now Ctrl+number. The transposition metatools are programmed with Ctrl+Shift+number. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposing from percussion clef
At 07:48 PM 10/12/2008, Dana Friedman @ Dragonfly Technologies wrote: trying to get particular phrases on particular drums. The new patch I'm using requires placement a third below where it is now. I used the selection tool, transposed down a third, and it didn't move. I tried diatonic, I tried chromatic. I even tried changing clefs (which shouldn't have to have been the answer anyway). Zip. Nada..Gournisht. The noteheads stay where they were originally placed. This can all get a little complicated because of percussion maps. For example, if you like the way the part looks but you just want to change the MIDI pitch each note emits, you can get this by editing the percussion map you're using. (Staff tool, double-click the staff handle, click the Select button next to Notation Style, and then Edit the percussion map. Change the playback note for each item you want to change.) On the other hand, if you think your problems would be solved if you could actually just move all the notes down a third, then there's something else you can try. Select the Staff Tool, double-click the staff handle, and set Notation Style to Standard. Then transpose the section, and go back and set Notation Style to Percussion again. Hopefully, things will line up the way you want with your percussion map. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] measure number question
At 08:31 PM 10/6/2008, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I am doing a transcription that needs a special measure number. The situation is this: I have measure 108 and I need to add measure 108a as a safety vamp during the show. How is this done? I want the measure numbers to begin again at measure 109 You don't say what version of Finale you're using. If you're using Fin2007 or later, select the measure tool and double-click the measure you want to be 108a. Under Options, uncheck Include in Measure Numbering. Now Finale will skip this measure; the one before will be 108, and the one after will be 109. I don't think Finale can actually display a measure number with numbers and letters, like 108a, so you'll probably have to create a measure expression and attach it to that measure. If you're using an earlier version of Finale, you'll need to create a second measure number region. Select the measure tool, and do Measure | Measure Numbers | Edit Regions. You probably only have one region defined. Select it, and set it to include measures 1 through 108. Then click the Add button. Define this second measure to include measures 110 through 999, and set First Measure in Region to 109. You now have 2 measure regions, leaving out the 109th measure. Again, you'll probably need a measure expression to get 108a on that measure. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] measure number question
Ah, I missed the Prefix and Suffix boxes, right there in front of my face. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Comb binding supplies
Thanks for the comb info, Andrew. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Comb binding supplies
Hi all, I have some parts I inherited which are bound with 23-ring plastic combs, and I need to rebind them. Does anybody know a good place to order these combs? Even 21-ring combs would be preferable to the 19-ring combs I have. (Google was not particularly helpful.) Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Comb binding supplies
At 11:24 AM 9/7/2008, Chuck Israels wrote: Are you talking about the length of the coils? I just found a local duplication place here in little Bellingham that has ordered some 15 coils for me from a supplier in Seattle. I didn't think to ask the name of the Seattle supplier (I like to support the local businesses when I can), but longer lengths seem to be available. Perhaps a similar duplication shop in Baltimore can help. Greg Hamilton (copyist/engraver) in Vancouver BC has told me he buys them in 36 lengths so he can bind large scores. Chuck, it sounds like you're talking about spiral binding (metal coils). I'm talking about plastic comb binding. Most of the combs you see in stores or online have 19 rings on them, used for binding an 11 edge. But I know they come in other sizes. That's what I'm looking for. Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin/Mac 2008 measurement unit/EVPU location
At 07:30 PM 9/7/2008, mystrom1 wrote: Where do I find the command to change to evpus? I looked in the table of contents, it kind of leads me to the edit menu, but I dont see anything when I pull down on the edit menu. Edit | Measurement Units Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Comb binding supplies
At 08:55 PM 9/7/2008, Andrew Stiller wrote: I get my long combs from the Spiral Binding Co., Totowa NJ, www.spiralbinding.com, phone 973-256-0666. They will cut combs to just about any length you like, but since there is a surcharge for every cut, I find it considerably cheaper to buy them full-length (76 rings) Wow! How much does a comb that long cost? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Repeat wing styles
Hi all, Repeat wing style is set in document options (none, curved, single, double). Is there any way to override this choice for one linked part? I've got a score with the 'none' style selected, but for the drum part, I want curved. I know I can just extract the drum part and change the style there, but I'm looking for a solution within linked parts. WinFin2007. Thanks, Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Repeat wing styles
At 06:29 PM 9/4/2008, Christopher Smith wrote: You can fake it, though, using a measure-attached expression. I believe the wings are actual characters, Oh, would that this were true! And it does sort of look like they're just characters added on to the regular repeat, but I don't see the chars in any of the Finale fonts. though even if they aren't you could export a graphic and then import it. Very interesting solution. Thanks. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 05:53 AM 8/28/2008, shirling neueweise wrote: on the finalemusic.com downloads page i can't select the version (menu is visible but not accessible) and the search for finale updates doesn't seem to work. i also can't log in as an existing online customer. is their site jammed? just checked again, still same problems. checked on another computer (PC) as well, can't get past the first level on their site. All is working fine for me this morning. Have you (just for kicks) tried a different browser? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 10:24 AM 8/28/2008, shirling neueweise wrote: for e.g. i get to the login page, type in username/pass hit go and it starts to go and hangs. a few minutes later i get a server too busy message. You mean http://finalemusic.com/store/login.aspx?t=myaccount.aspx ? It worked for me both last night and right now, so I'm not sure why it's not working for you. Sorry. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 02:48 PM 8/25/2008, Giz Bowe wrote: I don't like having to use Internet Explorer to access help. In fact, I don't like to go online at all for help. You do need IE (or some other browser) to access the new help files, but you don't need to be online. The help files all reside on your hard drive, and no Internet access is needed. If it must be online, there should be a direct Index link from the Finale help menu There's Help | User Manual | Table of Contents -- is that not what you want? I liked the alphabetical guide/link in the index when it was actually in the program. What do you mean? The new help files still have an Index section. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 05:35 PM 8/25/2008, David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Aug 2008 at 15:38, Allen Fisher wrote: What about the help button that's right in dialogs? It should be mapped to the F1 key on Windows, and the appropriate key on a Mac. F1 works for me on Win -- does it not work for you? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 08:55 PM 8/25/2008, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: very often. But one thing that I would suggest would be an invaluable aid is to incorporate an expanded version of The Visual Index, now found in the Quick Reference Guide, into the full user documentation. This is already there. When you start up the help files, Visual Index is the third link down on the right. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 09:39 PM 8/25/2008, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: To my suggestion: incorporate an expanded version of The Visual Index, now found in the Quick Reference Guide, into the full user documentation. Aaron Sherber wrote This is already there. When you start up the help files, Visual Index is the third link down on the right. to which I can only note that I did not see it when I consulted the most recent version of Finale I had installed, WIN 2k7. Finale 2007 used an entirely different help system; there was a WinHelp file and a PDF version of the manual. Both of these were replaced in 2008 with an HTML-based help system, and this is what is currently in 2009. The Visual Index is easy to access from this help system. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Wireless hi-fi
At 01:24 PM 8/21/2008, Phil Daley wrote: I have a receiver with wires running to the speakers. Is it possible to replace the wires with a transmitter/receiver package that would allow one to move speakers anywhere without running wires? Well, there are wireless speakers. Basically, these are bookshelf speakers with small radio receivers built in, and a transmitter you hook up to your amp: http://sherber.com/url/2l?wireless-speakers If you want to use your own speakers, you'll want something where the receiver has its own little built-in amp and audio outs. When I looked into this a few years ago, I didn't really see anything. But now I find these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/audio/862c/?cpg=ab http://www.carltonbale.com/2007/08/rocketfish-universal-wireless-speaker-amplifier/ http://www.audioholics.com/news/trade-show-coverage/2005-consumer-electronics-show-ces/amphony-wireless-audio-transmitter-amp Google wireless amplifier speaker for more results. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score staff separators
On Fri, August 15, 2008 11:10 pm, Craig Parmerlee wrote: At some point, I think it is fair put some responsibility on the software designers. If there is a property that hides or shows a text object on a linked part, that property should be accessible in the context menu (right click), as would be the case with any properly designed Windows application. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Hide and Show are most definitely accessible from the context menu for these items. And the use of the override key is explained in the help file. (For what it's worth, the help file section on linked parts which Darcy recommended even has an entry titled To show an item in the Score (and hide it in all Parts).) Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 4/4 vs. Common Time
On Wed, August 13, 2008 7:45 pm, Blake Richardson wrote: Is there any way to change the default from C to 4/4? You don't say what version of Finale you're using, but open the Document Options dialog and look under Time Signatures. Uncheck the box at the top that says Abbreviate common time to. If you want this change to stick for all your new documents, then open your default file (probably Maestro Font Default.ftm), make the change, and then Save As a template file back to the same file name. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Translation help needed: French to english
At 08:42 PM 8/5/2008, Darcy James Argue wrote: 1. leave it in French (cuivré) The English would be brassy, but Darcy is right that the French term is commonly used and understood. 5. div. by desk, although probably just div. is fine. Au contraire! div. by itself usually implies division *at* the desk (i.e., inside/outside). div. by desk is the correct translation here. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question
At 12:41 PM 8/4/2008, John Howell wrote: Hi, Richard. Do you mean legal size? 8.5 x 14? A double spread in that case would be 14 x 17, not 11 x 14. Or maybe I'm just confused. I think Richard is talking about an 11x14 page size, not spread size. This is what I use for most of my large scores as well. I buy a ream of 11x17 paper (off-white, 70lb offset) and have the bottom 3 trimmed off to give me 11x14. Most of the places where I have conducted have conductors' stands with an oversized desk, something like 30x20; Wenger makes a very nice one that many orchestras have. But in a pinch, an 11x14 score will fit adequately on two regular stands put side by side, whereas an 11x17 score will have too much hanging over the edge. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
