Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[PeterH5322]

>I bought Popcorn shortly after the arrival of the 12" 1.5GHz PB; and  
>now I looked and it seems like they rolled some of the popcorn  
>features into the newest Toast... from the product blurbs anyway...

Possibly, except for the smart compression algorithm.

If you are only doing DVDs, then all you need is Popcorn and MTR.

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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[Brian McEwen]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



There isn't a free package to do such compression for OS X, is there?



Mac The Ripper is free; Popcorn isn't.

Since Popcorn can made duplicates from DVDs, burn DVDs from images of
same, and can convert from multi-layer to single-layer using an  
adaptive

compression technique, it's worth the price to me.


I bought Popcorn shortly after the arrival of the 12" 1.5GHz PB; and  
now I looked and it seems like they rolled some of the popcorn  
features into the newest Toast... from the product blurbs anyway...


B


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Re: DVD burning on Pismo

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>>Actually the Pismo will burn DVDs okay, just at slower speeds.
>
>I did not test that. Perhaps I will, later.

4X has been confirmed to work using a UJ-845.

My 2X confirmation was using a DVR-K05.

I have no reason to doubt that the DVR-K05 will do 4X as well.


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Re: DVD burning on Pismo

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>>Actually the Pismo will burn DVDs okay, just at slower speeds.
>
>I did not test that. Perhaps I will, later.

The 2X write test with the Pioneer DVR-K05 and the Pismo worked perfectly.

2X write was explicitly selected, overriding "best" write rate, although 
it appeared that the actual writing took less than one-half of the entire 
program's length. The test source was a movie which took the entire 
single-layer media.

I noticed that even though the drives are rated 2.4X for dual-layer 
media, Roxio products use 2X.

Or, perhaps that is a characteristic of those products ... displaying 2X 
even though 2.4X was used.

Since dual-layer media is costing about $3.25 per unit, and single-layer 
media is costing about $0.25 per unit, I'll likely defer dual-layer 
internal testing for a later time.

For now, I am pleased with 2X internal EIDE/UATA write and 8X external 
Firewire write.

I believe reading and verification was done at "best" speed, but I have 
not confirmed that beyond reasonable doubt.

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Re: DVD burning on Pismo

[PeterH5322]

>> It definitely will not do a DVD-R or R/W, most likely on account of
>> imperfect grounding or other flaws in the electrical interface from  
>> the drive to the motherboard.
>
>Actually the Pismo will burn DVDs okay, just at slower speeds.

I did not test that. Perhaps I will, later.


>Depends on your setup, portability needs, etc. External firewire will  
>always be much better, faster, stabler, etc.

I'm a stickler for stability, and I detest "coasters".

If I could consistently get good DVD burns at 2X, using a Pioneer DVR-K05 
or Panasonic UJ-845 in the Lombard and Pismo, then I would be satisfied 
for "run and gun" DVD burning, on an occasional basis, with a fallback to 
USB or Firewire, for stationary use, at the fastest possible speed, 
depending upon what the rate limiting factor was, interface or drive.

I guess I'll buy a USB + Firewire case this coming week, that way it will 
be usable on either the Lombard (USB only) or the Pismo (USB and/or 
Firewire).

I am very pleased with the results with the Pioneer DVR-109 (now replaced 
by the DVR-110), the Pioneer DVR-K05, and the Panasonic UJ-845, when used 
in my B&W G3/450.

I am also very pleased with the results of the Pioneer DVR-109 in my old 
Firewire-only case.

I trust the DVR-109 or DVR-110 will work as well in the new USB + 
Firewire case.

That way, I'll be pleased pretty much all around.

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Re: DVD burning on Pismo

[csean]

On Sep 18, 2005, at 9:30 PM, G-Books wrote:

Perhaps just upgrade the Pismo's media bay to CD-ROM-R-R/W and DVD- 
ROM.

It definitely will not do a DVD-R or R/W, most likely on account of
imperfect grounding or other flaws in the electrical interface from  
the

drive to the motherboard.



Actually the Pismo will burn DVDs okay, just at slower speeds.  
Depends on your setup, portability needs, etc. External firewire will  
always be much better, faster, stabler, etc. As I mentioned, I used a  
Panasonic UJ-811B in my Pismo and it burned movies to DVD-R's okay.  
Was able to read those movies on the same drive and on a home DVD  
player. I used DVD Backup and DVD2oneX to prepare the source video file.
The Panasonic drives have the advantage of being tray-loaders that  
can use the original Panasonic DVD-Rom drive bezel from the Pismo  
(not the LG one). The series includes UJ-810, UJ-811 and UJ-820, if I  
remember correctly. The burning speeds increase as the model number  
goes up, with the 820 at 4x.


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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[PeterH5322]

>>The problem might be that your DVD burner is too recent, too  
>>powerful, etc.
>
>Posible, as these are very fast drives, and will burn a dual-layer DVD at 
>2.4X, and a single-layer DVD at 8X.
>
>Those date rates are just too high for the flimsy interconnection 
>provided to the Lombard and Pismo media bay.
>
>Forcing burning down to 2X might be a possible option.
>
>I notice that my Firewire case has an 80-wire/40-pin cable from the 
>Oxford chipset to the drive.

Success!

The route to same is through Firefire attachment of a fast drive, and 
PatchBurn to add the Pioneer DVR-109 drive's parameters.

The Firewire case was a generic model with an Oxford 911 chip set [ * ] 
with an 80-wire/40-pin internal cable.

The case cost $39.95 at one of the "usual suspect" surplus shops in and 
around Silly Cone Valley.

I used Popcorn under 10.3.9 on a 500 MHz Pismo with a 60 GB Hitachi/IBM 
5K80 drive for intermediate storage, and 512 MB of RAM.

Perfect reading of the source DVD, and perfect writing and verification 
of same.

Immediately played the duplicate on the Pioneer DVR-K05 which was in the 
media bay, using DVD Player.

So ...

The route to trouble-free, perfect DVD operations on a Pismo (and by 
implication on a Lombard, although a USB 1 or a Firewire card would be 
required) is through an external Firewire case and drive.

As there are good USB + Firewire cases available, I would go that way. 
Probably about $50-$60.

And ...

Perhaps just upgrade the Pismo's media bay to CD-ROM-R-R/W and DVD-ROM. 
It definitely will not do a DVD-R or R/W, most likely on account of 
imperfect grounding or other flaws in the electrical interface from the 
drive to the motherboard.


[ * ] Unfortunately given this name, before the WTC disaster. I believe 
there is now an improved Oxford chip available, one which properly 
supports 48-bit LBA, but this particular 911 chip had an enhanced 
firmware image, specifically for support of at least 160 GB drives.

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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

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>> I have never successfully created a DVD, in toto, but I have  
>> created partial
>> DVDs.
>
>The problem might be that your DVD burner is too recent, too  
>powerful, etc.

Posible, as these are very fast drives, and will burn a dual-layer DVD at 
2.4X, and a single-layer DVD at 8X.

Those date rates are just too high for the flimsy interconnection 
provided to the Lombard and Pismo media bay.

Forcing burning down to 2X might be a possible option.

I notice that my Firewire case has an 80-wire/40-pin cable from the 
Oxford chipset to the drive.


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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[csean]

Obviously the first thing I need is the DVD burner. Probably will go
with the internal. But I was wondering if I had enough horsepower to
accomplish this. Anybody out there burning DVDs on a Pismo? What
upgrades would help the most? G3 900 or G4 500? More RAM? Faster hard
drive speed?






I added a +/- two-layer CD/DVD drive compatible with 10.3 and 10.4  
(Pioneer

DVR-K05) to my Lombard and Pismo.

All CD operations are OK.

DVD playing is OK.

I have never successfully created a DVD, in toto, but I have  
created partial

DVDs.


The problem might be that your DVD burner is too recent, too  
powerful, etc. I had an internal DVD on my Pismo G3/500 back in the  
day and it worked okay. IIRC it was a Panasonic UJ-811B and burnt DVD- 
R at 2x, so not too fast. But it certainly worked, as I was able to  
burn movies with Toast 5, after ripping them with DVD Backup (IIRC)  
and DVD2oneX. Took about 20-25 minutes to burn the movie.
The nice thing about the 811B was that its bezel fit the original  
Pismo DVD (also Panasonic Matsushita) perfectly. DVD playing was fine  
and CD burning too. I never did any data backups to DVD though.
I think a G4 processor upgrade would be helpful, though it's getting  
less and less cost effective nowadays as prices on new G4 iBooks drop  
and on used G4 powerbooks tumble.
I loved the black of the Pismo and its solid feel, not to mention of  
course its easy upgradeability. Loved the expansion bay slots! And so  
easy to open up.
If that company that made those "macskinz" (IIRC) was still selling  
them I'd love to try a new G4 iBook and slap a black "coating" over  
it; not only protective, but also harking back to the mythical Pismo.  
Not too crazy about white. So let's hope the new black iPod Nano  
(outselling the white one about 8 to 1, I heard) is a sign of blacker  
things to come from Apple in the portable computer market too. I'd  
love a powerbook inside that black 13.3" widescreen Sony Vaio!


Chris

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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[Daniel Colwell]

Thanks to  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Henry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
for responding.


Apparently an external burner works, and I may have to go that route. 
Not exactly what I wanted, but I can live with this. Of course an 
internal option would be nice. Anybody using any other type of drive 
that successfully burns DVDs internally on the Pismo?


And how about software? I have a copy of Final Cut Pro that I was able 
to tweak to run on a G3, but haven't done much of anything with it yet. 
What software would work best for me (with any available upgrades) to 
edit the incoming analog video? I am toying with the idea of setting up 
a business to transfer VCR tapes to DVDs and would practice on my 
family's tapes first. What setup is being successfully used to make the 
transfer? Digital Camcorder? ADS Tech PRO A/V Link?


And again if any of the Pismo upgrades were of significant help, please 
let me know. I have a few extra dollars burning a hole in my pocket and 
telling my wife it is part of a business plan and recommended might 
help get an OK for this cash outlay. (yeah, and maybe not but I'll try 
anyway...)


Again, thanks for any input,

Dan-


I added a +/- two-layer CD/DVD drive compatible with 10.3 and 10.4 
(Pioneer

DVR-K05) to my Lombard and Pismo.

All CD operations are OK.

DVD playing is OK.

I have never successfully created a DVD, in toto, but I have created 
partial

DVDs.

The problem appears to be a noisy environment between the DVD drive 
and the

motherboard.

Perhaps not enough ground wires.

The drive's manual is quite explicit about DVD writing, stating that 
full
performance from the drive *requires* an 80-wire/40-pin UATA/100-type 
cable.


The drive itself has no problem creating DVDs in a Blue & White 
G3/450, on
the "multiword" bus, which *is* equipped with an 80-wire/40-pin 
UATA/100-type
cable, even though it is not otherwise required, as the data rate on 
that bus is

limited to 16.67 MB/sec.

I bought an accessory adapter which converts the drive to standard 
interface,
and which could be useful in a Firewire case, as well as for testing 
in a

desktop or tower. $6.95.

Note that the Pismo and Lombard both have issues with their EIDE/UATA 
chips,
and these cannot accept drives which cannot negotiate *down* to lower 
ATA

performance levels (the earlier Wallstreets can).

All Samsungs, and many later Hitachi/IBMs and Toshibas are not 
compatible

with the Pismo and Lombard.

The Hitachi/IBM 5K80 series, if you can find one, *is* compatible, and 
you
will need that storage should you solve the problem of support of the 
Pioneer

DVR-K05, or the equally capable Panasonic UJ-845.

My Lombard and Pismo each have a 60 GB Hitachi/IBM 5K80. My 
Wallstreets each

have a 40 GB Samsung.

All are 5400 rpm drives with large caches (8 MB?), FDB bearings, and 
all the

other "usual suspect" features.

Since the B&W 450 with its 100 MHz bus is about equal to a 400 or 500 
MHz
Pismo with its 100 MHz bus, I don't think more than a G3, or more than 
400 or 500

MHz is required.



Since the internal option seems to be a no-go, you may want to 
consider an

external Firewire option instead.

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Subject: Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

Actually, I've burned DVD from my Lombard using an external burner
(Sony DVD RE DW-U18A - Firewire) and Toast Titanium 6. Lombard is a
400 with no upgrade. As for the upgrade, nice to have (I want one
too) but not necessary for your project, IMHO.

Henry




I have a Pismo 400MHz, 768 RAM, 40G running 10.3.9.

Obviously the first thing I need is the DVD burner. Probably will go
with the internal. But I was wondering if I had enough horsepower to
accomplish this. Anybody out there burning DVDs on a Pismo? What
upgrades would help the most? G3 900 or G4 500? More RAM? Faster
hard drive speed?

I am happy with my Pismo, and will probably wait for the equivalent
of a G5 laptop before I replace it. Or maybe not if I have to put so
much $ into this to make editing and burning DVDs practical

WegenerMedia has a pretty tempting offer on the G4 500 upgrade.

My main projects will be converting VCR tapes over to DVD and
editing them with chapters and possible background music. We have a
bunch of tapes and photos that I want to get on DVDs to look nice,
share and preserve. I'd like to use my current laptop but I want to
see what is possible before I spend too much.

Please let me know of your experiences.

Thanks!

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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

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>> The time to do such compression on a 450 MHz mac
>
>There isn't a free package to do such compression for OS X, is there?

Mac The Ripper is free; Popcorn isn't.

Since Popcorn can made duplicates from DVDs, burn DVDs from images of 
same, and can convert from multi-layer to single-layer using an adaptive 
compression technique, it's worth the price to me.

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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[Henry Taylor]

Actually, I've burned DVD from my Lombard using an external burner 
(Sony DVD RE DW-U18A - Firewire) and Toast Titanium 6. Lombard is a 
400 with no upgrade. As for the upgrade, nice to have (I want one 
too) but not necessary for your project, IMHO.


Henry




I have a Pismo 400MHz, 768 RAM, 40G running 10.3.9.

Obviously the first thing I need is the DVD burner. Probably will go 
with the internal. But I was wondering if I had enough horsepower to 
accomplish this. Anybody out there burning DVDs on a Pismo? What 
upgrades would help the most? G3 900 or G4 500? More RAM? Faster 
hard drive speed?


I am happy with my Pismo, and will probably wait for the equivalent 
of a G5 laptop before I replace it. Or maybe not if I have to put so 
much $ into this to make editing and burning DVDs practical


WegenerMedia has a pretty tempting offer on the G4 500 upgrade.

My main projects will be converting VCR tapes over to DVD and 
editing them with chapters and possible background music. We have a 
bunch of tapes and photos that I want to get on DVDs to look nice, 
share and preserve. I'd like to use my current laptop but I want to 
see what is possible before I spend too much.


Please let me know of your experiences.

Thanks!

Dan-



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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[Brian McEwen]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 1:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 downsampled (compressed) to fit on
a one-layer DVD.

The time to do such compression on a 450 MHz mac


There isn't a free package to do such compression for OS X, is there?

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Re: Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[PeterH5322]

In a message dated 9/15/05 9:54:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
Obviously the first thing I need is the DVD burner. Probably will go 
with the internal. But I was wondering if I had enough horsepower to 
accomplish this. Anybody out there burning DVDs on a Pismo? What 
upgrades would help the most? G3 900 or G4 500? More RAM? Faster hard 
drive speed?
>>

I added a +/- two-layer CD/DVD drive compatible with 10.3 and 10.4 (Pioneer 
DVR-K05) to my Lombard and Pismo.

All CD operations are OK.

DVD playing is OK.

I have never successfully created a DVD, in toto, but I have created partial 
DVDs.

The problem appears to be a noisy environment between the DVD drive and the 
motherboard.

Perhaps not enough ground wires.

The drive's manual is quite explicit about DVD writing, stating that full 
performance from the drive *requires* an 80-wire/40-pin UATA/100-type cable.

The drive itself has no problem creating DVDs in a Blue & White G3/450, on 
the "multiword" bus, which *is* equipped with an 80-wire/40-pin UATA/100-type 
cable, even though it is not otherwise required, as the data rate on that bus 
is 
limited to 16.67 MB/sec.

I bought an accessory adapter which converts the drive to standard interface, 
and which could be useful in a Firewire case, as well as for testing in a 
desktop or tower. $6.95.

Note that the Pismo and Lombard both have issues with their EIDE/UATA chips, 
and these cannot accept drives which cannot negotiate *down* to lower ATA 
performance levels (the earlier Wallstreets can).

All Samsungs, and many later Hitachi/IBMs and Toshibas are not compatible 
with the Pismo and Lombard.

The Hitachi/IBM 5K80 series, if you can find one, *is* compatible, and you 
will need that storage should you solve the problem of support of the Pioneer 
DVR-K05, or the equally capable Panasonic UJ-845.

My Lombard and Pismo each have a 60 GB Hitachi/IBM 5K80. My Wallstreets each 
have a 40 GB Samsung.

All are 5400 rpm drives with large caches (8 MB?), FDB bearings, and all the 
other "usual suspect" features.

Since the B&W 450 with its 100 MHz bus is about equal to a 400 or 500 MHz 
Pismo with its 100 MHz bus, I don't think more than a G3, or more than 400 or 
500 
MHz is required.

The faster CPU could be of use if you are using Mac The Ripper to "rip" DVDs 
and then burn unprotected copies which are downsampled (compressed) to fit on 
a one-layer DVD.

The time to do such compression on a 450 MHz machine with a 100 MHz bus is 
about equal to the running time of the movie itself.

Converting the 2 hr 40 min "The High and the Mighty" from dual-layer to 
one-layer took 2 hrs and 40 min, not including the initial reading of the 
chapters, 
or the verification of the DVD. This, on the B&W, of course.

Since the internal option seems to be a no-go, you may want to consider an 
external Firewire option instead.

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Burning DVD's on a Pismo

[Daniel Colwell]

I have a Pismo 400MHz, 768 RAM, 40G running 10.3.9.

Obviously the first thing I need is the DVD burner. Probably will go 
with the internal. But I was wondering if I had enough horsepower to 
accomplish this. Anybody out there burning DVDs on a Pismo? What 
upgrades would help the most? G3 900 or G4 500? More RAM? Faster hard 
drive speed?


I am happy with my Pismo, and will probably wait for the equivalent of 
a G5 laptop before I replace it. Or maybe not if I have to put so much 
$ into this to make editing and burning DVDs practical


WegenerMedia has a pretty tempting offer on the G4 500 upgrade.

My main projects will be converting VCR tapes over to DVD and editing 
them with chapters and possible background music. We have a bunch of 
tapes and photos that I want to get on DVDs to look nice, share and 
preserve. I'd like to use my current laptop but I want to see what is 
possible before I spend too much.


Please let me know of your experiences.

Thanks!

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

[Tim Hodgson]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 4:53 pm -0400, Ed Zelinsky wrote:

>> On 13/09/05 11:07, "Ed Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
>>> running OSX.
>>>
>>
>On Sep 13, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
>
>> What do you mean exactly by "monitor or check the status"?
>>
>> -Laurent.
>> --  
>I'm sorry... is there an application that controls the player or is it  
>just an automatic thing? One minute it was playing both formats and  
>just stopped and wont read any disks...

If it's an LG drive, it's probably gone the way of most pismo LG drives.
Sorry.

When mine died (again) recently, the system log showed a lot of
instances of the error 'IOATAController device blocking bus' in the
weeks leading up to its demise, even when it appeared to be working
fine. So that might confirm the diagnosis.

TimH


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 13/09/05 11:53, "Ed Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm sorry... is there an application that controls the player or is it
> just an automatic thing? One minute it was playing both formats and
> just stopped and wont read any disks...
> On Sep 13, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
> 
>> On 13/09/05 11:07, "Ed Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
>>> running OSX.
>>> 
>> 
>> What do you mean exactly by "monitor or check the status"?
>> 
>> -Laurent.

Device control is integrated into the system. The device is always ready.
You put a disk in and it should appear on the desktop. I am assuming here
that we are talking about an internal CD/DVD drive. If it suddenly stopped
reading any disk, then I guess there is a problem with it. If you have
another CD/DVD drive in another Mac, you can try those disks there just to
be sure.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

[Ed Zelinsky]

I'm sorry... is there an application that controls the player or is it  
just an automatic thing? One minute it was playing both formats and  
just stopped and wont read any disks...

On Sep 13, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


On 13/09/05 11:07, "Ed Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
running OSX.



What do you mean exactly by "monitor or check the status"?

-Laurent.
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 13/09/05 11:07, "Ed Zelinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
> running OSX.
> 

What do you mean exactly by "monitor or check the status"?

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Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

[Ed Zelinsky]

How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm 
running OSX.


Thanks!


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Re: Pismo start up problem

[Fabian Fang]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 4:14 AM, kaldav wrote:


I have a Pismo 400 mhz, 576 mb ram, 48 GB hard drive running 10.3.8.
When I start up it frequently begins and then shows the screen with  
the 'you will need to restart by holding down the power key'- which  
I think is  kernel panic.

What should I do to fix this start up problem?


You may have a conflict with some Startup (or Login) Item.  The  
following Apple Support document, and other referenced documents  
therein, suggest a number of possible remedies.


<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106464#symp2>


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Re: Pismo start up problem

[Fabian Fang]

On Sep 13, 2005, at 4:14 AM, kaldav wrote:


I have a Pismo 400 mhz, 576 mb ram, 48 GB hard drive running 10.3.8.
When I start up it frequently begins and then shows the screen with  
the 'you will need to restart by holding down the power key'- which  
I think is  kernel panic.

What should I do to fix this start up problem?


You may have a conflict with some Startup (or Login) Item.  The  
following Apple Support document, and other referenced documents  
therein, suggest a number of possible remedies.


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Pismo start up problem

[kaldav]

Hello,
I have a Pismo 400 mhz, 576 mb ram, 48 GB hard drive running 10.3.8.
When I start up it frequently begins and then shows the screen with 
the 'you will need to restart by holding down the power key'- which I 
think is  kernel panic.

What should I do to fix this start up problem?
Thanks.

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[swap] FS: PowerBook G3 400mhz PISMO complete.(UPDATE3)

[Leigh Owen]

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Subject: [swap] FS: PowerBook G3 400mhz PISMO complete.(UPDATE)



Hi all,

It's the last days for a great deal.

Yep, it has to go. My best friend, a G3 400 Mhz Powerbook Pismo in very good
condition. Original config - 400Mhz/1mb cache/128mb ram/10Gb HD/8mb
video/DVD/CD-Rom drive.

Case in good condition, shows some wear but nothing major. IR port window
missing (of course). Power supply (YoYo), Screen and Keyboard in very good
condition. Was running OS 9.1. Drive is clean and has been wiped and zeroed.
Ran Apple hardware test and it passed all tests. No OS on drive and no OS
disks with Powerbook.Battery seems to be good Will run OSX (but not
supplied). Great for second Powerbook or rebuild with bigger drive and ram
or use for parts (N! How could you think of cutting up my friend).
Will also include a VG Carry bag (Targa), spare 4Gb 2.5"hard drive and some
cables (Usb, modem and what else I can find to add).

Will consider any offer over US$250 (current offer). plus shipping.

Shipping from Australia via Air Mail to US or Europe should be no more than
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Payment via PayPal only.

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Re: Pismo > LCD update.

[Stuart Saunders]

I finally got the Pismo connected - using an S-Video cable it works 
well.
Not sure what the problem is / was, but I did get it working (pretty 
poor picture tho') when a tech plugged the VGA cable back in while I 
was also testing the S-video - RCA adapter that came with the Pismo. I 
was worried that we might get shorted - smoke etc but then (a) picture 
came through. Disconnect either cable & the picture would disappear!  
VGA has worked with another LCD projector and also a VGA monitor.


Two cable solution would not be workable (mainly due to quality) so I 
got an S-Video > S-Video cable - works very well, first time.



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Re: Pismo/Lombard wireless?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 7, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:


On Sep 6, 2005, at 1:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hello all
I'lm about to switch my e-mail over to a G4 Cube ans I want to have
a powerbook that will share the same mail files.
The concept is to store the mail files on a CF card in a USB reader
attached to the Cube.
For portable use I'll plug the card into a powerbook and pick up
wherever I left off.





Call me crazy, but why not just use IMAP or uncheck the "Remove copy
from server after retrieving a message" option? Seems a lot easier
than buying another machine to use some sort of removable media.



I confess I haven't figured out IMAP yet, the files are then kept  
on a remote server.

I like the idea that my e-mail is on my hard drive.
I do keep copies on my ISPs server which is good for back up but if  
I go to a second computer I have to download and delete messages  
I've already read.


Using Mail.app you can set it to save a copy of mail you've read  
locally.


The main difference between IMAP and POP is that you primary mail  
store lives on the server.


If you make changes on one computer, the next time you connect with  
another computer it will synchronize with the server first. Deleted  
messages are gone already. All your systems are up-to-date  
automatically (when connected). All your systems have the same folder  
structure.


I like it, but then I routinely use three or four different computers  
to read my e-mail.


IMAP with cached local copies is very much like POP with mail left on  
the server, except all the synchronization hassles are handled  
automatically, which REALLY sounds like what you want to do.


The 'real' copy of the e-mail is always on the server, where it  
should be, IMO, where it's backed up and on good stable systems.


Now it's a hassle for accidentally deleted mails, because once gone  
they're generally really gone, but backups can handle that as well.


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Re: Pismo/Lombard wireless?

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

On Sep 6, 2005, at 1:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello all
I'lm about to switch my e-mail over to a G4 Cube ans I want to have
a powerbook that will share the same mail files.
The concept is to store the mail files on a CF card in a USB reader
attached to the Cube.
For portable use I'll plug the card into a powerbook and pick up
wherever I left off.



Call me crazy, but why not just use IMAP or uncheck the "Remove copy
from server after retrieving a message" option? Seems a lot easier
than buying another machine to use some sort of removable media.


I confess I haven't figured out IMAP yet, the files are then kept on a 
remote server.

I like the idea that my e-mail is on my hard drive.
I do keep copies on my ISPs server which is good for back up but if I 
go to a second computer I have to download and delete messages I've 
already read.
Having the mail files on removable media would eliminate downloading 
files twice and also offers an easy recovery is case one computer dies.
Just plug the card into the other computer and pick up where you left 
off.




Why not use a USB card reader plugged into the Lombard (or a Pismo).
Or simpler is to use a memory stick.


I'm trying to avoid projecting parts on the laptop.
I already worry about the cisco wireless card getting hit, a USB memory 
stick would be just as bad.
Incidentally my Sandisk 1Gb Cruzer mini USB memory stick has worked in 
my Lombard under OS 9 and 10. It's PC formatted but the files work 
fine.
With a Pismo I would use the internal wireless card with a compact 
flash card  for data.
Pismos are cool, I need to find a barebones model and swap all my 
Lombard peripherals over.


Andrew in Ann Arbor


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[swap] FS: PowerBook G3 400mhz PISMO complete.(UPDATE)

[Leigh Owen]

Hi all,

Yep, it has to go. My best friend, a G3 400 Mhz Powerbook Pismo in very good
condition. Original config - 400Mhz/1mb cache/128mb ram/10Gb HD/8mb
video/DVD combo drive.

Case in good condition, shows some wear but nothing major. IR port window
missing (of course). Power supply (YoYo), Screen and Keyboard in very good
condition. Was running OS 9.1. Drive is clean and has been wiped and zeroed.
Ran Apple hardware test and it passed all tests. No OS on drive and no OS
disks with Powerbook.Battery seems to be good Will run OSX (but not
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Re: Airport range with Pismo (internal vs external)?

[Clark Martin]

At 8:59 PM + 9/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all
I'lm about to switch my e-mail over to a G4 Cube ans I want to have 
a powerbook that will share the same mail files.
The concept is to store the mail files on a CF card in a USB reader 
attached to the Cube.
For portable use I'll plug the card into a powerbook and pick up 
wherever I left off.
Unfortunately I can't do this with my Lombard since the wireless 
card occupies the sole card slot so I'm considering trading up to a 
Pismo.
My question is,  how does the internal Airport card compare to a PC 
wireless card (like the Cisco I'm currently using).
I'm more interested in range (the cisco card won't work in a few 
rooms) than speed.
I guess the original airport card doesn't support more advanced 
encryption, not a problem here at home but possibly a consideration 
when travelling.


Why not use a USB card reader plugged into the Lombard (or a Pismo). 
Or simpler is to use a memory stick.

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[swap] FS: PowerBook G3 400mhz PISMO complete.

[Leigh Owen]

-- Forwarded Message
From: Leigh Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:43:33 +1000
To: 
Subject: FS: PowerBook G3 400mhz PISMO complete.

Hi all,

Yep, it has to go. My best friend, a G3 400 Mhz Powerbook Pismo in very good
condition. Original config - 400Mhz/1mb cache/128mb ram/10Gb HD/8mb
video/DVD combo drive.

Case in good condition, shows some wear but nothing major. IR port window
missing (of course). Power supply (YoYo), Screen and Keyboard in very good
condition. Was running OS 9.1. Drive is clean and has been wiped and zeroed.
Ran Apple hardware test and it passed all tests. No OS on drive and no OS
disks with Powerbook.Battery seems to be good Will run OSX (but not
supplied). Great for second Powerbook, rebuild with bigger drive  or Parts
(N! How could you think of cutting up my friend). Will also include
a Carry bag (Targa style), spare 4Gb hard drive and some cables.

Will consider any offer over US$150. plus shipping.

Shipping from Australia via Air Mail to US or Europe should be no more than
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Payment via PayPal only.

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Re: Airport range with Pismo (internal vs external)?

[Dylan McDermond]

On Sep 6, 2005, at 1:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello all
I'lm about to switch my e-mail over to a G4 Cube ans I want to have  
a powerbook that will share the same mail files.
The concept is to store the mail files on a CF card in a USB reader  
attached to the Cube.
For portable use I'll plug the card into a powerbook and pick up  
wherever I left off.
Unfortunately I can't do this with my Lombard since the wireless  
card occupies the sole card slot so I'm considering trading up to a  
Pismo.


Call me crazy, but why not just use IMAP or uncheck the "Remove copy  
from server after retrieving a message" option? Seems a lot easier  
than buying another machine to use some sort of removable media.


- Dylan


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Re: Airport range with Pismo (internal vs external)?

[Robert Eye]

The (original) Airport card is essentially the same
(internally and performance-wise) as the Lucent PCMCIA
cards, except the pin/antenna configurations are
different. Although I have no direct experience, it
seems from what I have read that the older PBs and the
original iBook have the best range w/Airport cards. I
don't know about a comparison between Airport and
PCMCIA cards.

(IIRC, don't the later versions of the Airport sw
update the encription firmware in the card to 128
bit?)

For the cost (!!) of Airport cards on eBay, though, a
wireless USB may be the better solution. The D-Link
DWL-122 was, I believe, the only officially supported
USB wirless stick for the Mac (the Belkin F5D6050 was
supported, too, but it's not a stick, but a wired unit
with antenna - works great on my original Bondi iMac),
and only had OS X drivers. Some of these are available
on eBay for 1/3 the cost of an Airport card (!). The
successor, the DWL-G122, does NOT have Mac drivers,
and I believe is a different chip set.

Oops, forgot about the USB stick from MacWirless.com
for $100 - they say up front that some people have had
problems with the OS X driver. Check their site:

<http://www.macwireless.com/html/products/11g_11b_cards/11bUSB.html>

There are a couple other USB sticks available with
hacked drivers; I'll see if I can dig up more if
you're interested. Ralink Corp has come up with some
OS X drivers for USB wireless parts that use their
chipset:

<http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm>

You might check their forums for info on the brands
supported.

Here's another site for wireless cards/USB sticks with
available driver support under OS X:

<http://home.earthlink.net/~metaphyzx/Wireless.htm>

I'm exploring the same option for a Tangerine iBook I
just bought off eBay w/o an Airport card (should have
held out for one that had the card). Mac OS 9 support
is *especially* difficult to find for 3rd party USB
sticks. I think the macwireless stick is the only one
with OS 9 support.

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

P.S. If anyone has a good source of Airport cards for
a *reasonable* price, please forward. Thanks.


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> Hello all
> I'lm about to switch my e-mail over to a G4 Cube ans
> I want to have a powerbook that will share the same
> mail files.
> The concept is to store the mail files on a CF card
> in a USB reader attached to the Cube.
> For portable use I'll plug the card into a powerbook
> and pick up wherever I left off.
> Unfortunately I can't do this with my Lombard since
> the wireless card occupies the sole card slot so I'm
> considering trading up to a Pismo.
> My question is,  how does the internal Airport card
> compare to a PC wireless card (like the Cisco I'm
> currently using).
> I'm more interested in range (the cisco card won't
> work in a few rooms) than speed.
> I guess the original airport card doesn't support
> more advanced encryption, not a problem here at home
> but possibly a consideration when travelling.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andrew in Ann Arbor 


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Airport range with Pismo (internal vs external)?

[aklist04]

Hello all
I'lm about to switch my e-mail over to a G4 Cube ans I want to have a powerbook 
that will share the same mail files.
The concept is to store the mail files on a CF card in a USB reader attached to 
the Cube.
For portable use I'll plug the card into a powerbook and pick up wherever I 
left off.
Unfortunately I can't do this with my Lombard since the wireless card occupies 
the sole card slot so I'm considering trading up to a Pismo.
My question is,  how does the internal Airport card compare to a PC wireless 
card (like the Cisco I'm currently using).
I'm more interested in range (the cisco card won't work in a few rooms) than 
speed.
I guess the original airport card doesn't support more advanced encryption, not 
a problem here at home but possibly a consideration when travelling.

Thanks

Andrew in Ann Arbor 

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FS: PowerBook G3 400mhz PISMO complete.

[Leigh Owen]

Hi all,

Yep, it has to go. My best friend, a G3 400 Mhz Powerbook Pismo in very good
condition. Original config - 400Mhz/1mb cache/128mb ram/10Gb HD/8mb
video/DVD combo drive.
Case in good condition, shows some wear but nothing major. IR port window
missing (of course). Power supply (YoYo), Screen and Keyboard in very good
condition. Was running OS 9.1. Drive is clean and has been wiped and zeroed.
Ran Apple hardware test and it passed all tests. No OS on drive and no OS
disks with Powerbook. Will run OSX (but not supplied). Great for second
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think of cutting up my friend).

Will consider any offer over US$150. plus shipping.

Shipping from Australia via Air Mail to US or Europe should be no more than
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Payment via PayPal only.

Any questions  email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

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Re: Pismo CD/DVD drive

[csean]

On Sep 2, 2005, at 9:30 PM, G-Books wrote:


Subject: Sony Pismo drives query

Others have mentioned suitable replacement drives for the Pismo. What
about the Sony CRX820E?



Works great. And most (if not all) CRX820E's come set as Master,  
which makes it perfect for the Pismo.


Chris

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive

[csean]

On Sep 2, 2005, at 9:30 PM, G-Books wrote:


Many Matshita tray-loading DVD-R burners from the UJ-810/811/etc.
series can use the original  Matshita bezel from the DVD read only
drive. Both have 3 small screws and 2 line up perfetcly; you can
either leave the 3rd screw out (the tray still works fine) or, as
some people have done, drill a 3rd hold in the plastic (far away from
the mechanism, so not TOO risky) that lines up with the 3rd screw.
I've done this on a Pismo with a UJ-810 and a UJ-811, and it looks
great.



While this is completely true, Panasonic has reportedly  
discontinued all

of the drives mentioned, in favor of the UJ-845-B.

It is the UJ/UJDA-8xx (where xx is 10, 20, 30, etcetera, but *not* 45)
which is completely compatible with the bezel of the Mac PBs, as
described above.



Don't know about what's been discontinued or not, but the drives are  
easy to find on ebay. The important thing, as I mentioned, is to get  
a TRAY-loading model. The UJ-845 is a slot-loader, which does work  
fine in the Pismo, but obviously you can't use the original bezel  
At least, not without cutting a slot in it! Though it should be noted  
further that some online stores (MCE, Wegener Media, etc.) do sell  
slot-loading drives for the Pismo with a Pismo bezel on them.  
Probably custom-made, custom-cut solutions.


Chris

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive

[PeterH5322]

>Many Matshita tray-loading DVD-R burners from the UJ-810/811/etc.  
>series can use the original  Matshita bezel from the DVD read only  
>drive. Both have 3 small screws and 2 line up perfetcly; you can  
>either leave the 3rd screw out (the tray still works fine) or, as  
>some people have done, drill a 3rd hold in the plastic (far away from  
>the mechanism, so not TOO risky) that lines up with the 3rd screw.  
>I've done this on a Pismo with a UJ-810 and a UJ-811, and it looks  
>great.

While this is completely true, Panasonic has reportedly discontinued all 
of the drives mentioned, in favor of the UJ-845-B.

It is the UJ/UJDA-8xx (where xx is 10, 20, 30, etcetera, but *not* 45) 
which is completely compatible with the bezel of the Mac PBs, as 
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Re: Hard drive for Pismo

[PeterH5322]

>I just purchased and installed an 80Gb Travelstar from Newegg.com for a 
>total price of $112 including shippi;ng.

Lombard and Pismo machines have issues with their EIDE/UATA controller 
chips which mandate that the attached drives be fully able to negotiate 
down from ATA-6.

The Samsungs, some Toshibas and perhaps the new Hitachi/IBMs will not 
properly negotiate.

Certain old Toshibas (up to about 10 GB) and the 5K80 series of 
Hitachi/IBMs will properly negotiate.

There are better deals on Hitachi/IBMs than Newegg.com (I have bought 
several Samsungs for my Wallstreets from them, and one 5K80 Hitachi/IBM 
from them, too).

BestBuyPC, for example, *may* substitute a later series for the 5K80, at 
their whim.

Two orders placed with BestBuyPC a few days apart resulted in the first 
one being a newer Hitachi/IBM, as a substitute *without notice*, and 
defective to boot, and the second one being a 5K80.

The "sweet spot" on 2.5" drives is at 60 GB right now, and those wanting 
less than 60 GB, or more than 60 GB, may be paying a premium price per GB 
for their drives.

I have actually encountered situations where a 20 GB drive cost more than 
a 30 GB drive from the same drive series and from the same retail seller.

Newegg.com is good in that their shipping in certain select items is very 
low priced.

The same is true of BestBuyPC.

Incidentally, BestBuyPC is one source of replacement optical drives for 
Lombards and Pismos (and for the MCE optical drive bays for the 
Wallstreets). There are others. Depending upon availability, $105 could 
get you a +/-, read/write/rewrite, CD/DVD drive with two-layer support. 
Alas, the laptop's EIDE/UATA controller chips seem not to be up to the 
job of successfully burning DVDs on a consistent basis.

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Re: Hard drive for Pismo

[John Collins]

I just purchased and installed an 80Gb Travelstar from Newegg.com for a 
total price of $112 including shippi;ng.


John
On Sep 2, 2005, at 4:50 AM, Ed Zelinsky wrote:



60gb Hitachi Travelstar 2.5" 9.5mm 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, ATA/ 6 
12.0ms 8MB Buffer






Is this a good HD for my Pismo. I just want a reality check before I 
buy and 'try' to install it. It's going to set me back about $190.







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Re: Sony Pismo drives query

[Seth Austen]

On Sep 2, 2005, at 12:57 AM, kaldav wrote:

Others have mentioned suitable replacement drives for the Pismo. What 
about the Sony CRX820E?


When my original pismo CD/DVD drive died, we replaced it with the Sony 
CRX820E. There are instructions to do this on the web, but I can't 
remember where. You'll need to keep your original tray, and install the 
Sony onto it, this was tricky, IIRC the hassle was more removing the 
old drive from the tray. We weren't able to put the Pismo faceplate on 
it, although theoretically it can be done. It works fine, and I have a 
CD burner onboard for the price of a replacement read only drive.


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Hard drive for Pismo

[Ed Zelinsky]

60gb Hitachi Travelstar 2.5" 9.5mm 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, ATA/ 6 
12.0ms 8MB Buffer






Is this a good HD for my Pismo. I just want a reality check before I 
buy and 'try' to install it. It's going to set me back about $190.




Thanks for any feedback.


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive

[csean]

On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:30 PM, G-Books wrote:


The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the other
major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit perfectly.



The SR-8174-C 6X Mfgd 2000 (Pismo) and the SR-8173-C ?X Mfgd 1999
(Lombard) both seem to work well.

I've replaced both with up-to-date writeable and rewriteable  
drives, with

good success, except for cosmetics.

One way to solve that would be to make an RTV mold of the Apple bezel,
and then graft a cast piece onto the replacement drive's door.

There's enough room to do this as the replacement drive sits slightly
inside the Lombard/Pismo case.


Many Matshita tray-loading DVD-R burners from the UJ-810/811/etc.  
series can use the original  Matshita bezel from the DVD read only  
drive. Both have 3 small screws and 2 line up perfetcly; you can  
either leave the 3rd screw out (the tray still works fine) or, as  
some people have done, drill a 3rd hold in the plastic (far away from  
the mechanism, so not TOO risky) that lines up with the 3rd screw.  
I've done this on a Pismo with a UJ-810 and a UJ-811, and it looks  
great.


Chris





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Sony Pismo drives query

[kaldav]

Others have mentioned suitable replacement drives for the Pismo. What 
about the Sony CRX820E?


The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the 
other major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit 
perfectly.


The SR-8174-C 6X Mfgd 2000 (Pismo) and the SR-8173-C ?X Mfgd 1999 
(Lombard) both seem to work well.
I've replaced both with up-to-date writeable and rewriteable drives, 
with  good success, except for cosmetics.



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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[PeterH5322]

>The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the other
>major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit perfectly.  

The SR-8174-C 6X Mfgd 2000 (Pismo) and the SR-8173-C ?X Mfgd 1999 
(Lombard) both seem to work well.

I've replaced both with up-to-date writeable and rewriteable drives, with 
good success, except for cosmetics.

One way to solve that would be to make an RTV mold of the Apple bezel, 
and then graft a cast piece onto the replacement drive's door.

There's enough room to do this as the replacement drive sits slightly 
inside the Lombard/Pismo case.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[Jeff Drummond]

On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:29 pm, K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Good evening Lista's,
My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south..  Does anyone know if
the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for the Pismo as a
replacement?



The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the other
major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit perfectly.  
Unlike
it's evil twin, the Matshita drive is fairly reliable. You can still  
find them

used on eBay. It's only a DVD-ROM though, so no disk burning. :(

Because of the Pismo's slightly curved sides no other drive--slot or  
tray--

will be an exact fit, although some don't look too bad (YMMV).



I am really tired of screwing around with the LG to get it
working...It hast to be ejected and smacked on the table in order  
to get

it to recognize that there is a dvd or  cd in it...Once it recognizes
that something is there, it works fine..but it it's a real pain to do
that every time and the rest of the family is really PO'd about it...
If anyone on list happens to have or knows someone that has a working
complete unit, please respond off line...
My son has now installed Tiger on this Pismo and it seems to be runing
like a raped ape!!  Pismo 400..1gb ram 10gb Toshiba hd 10.42



If you need another partially working LG drive let me know--I have one
available for cheap! :) :(

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[PeterH5322]

>I will say the lombard is obsolete since it can't install 10.4 only  
>10.3.9 and lower.

True, but with XPostFacto ...

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[Alan Miller]

On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Robert Eye wrote:


Heck, the Pismo is "obsolete."


Waa..
Now you had to go and burst my bubble I finally thought I was using a  
current machine ;-P

HaHa.

I just got my pismo this month, since I got my wife a TiBook 667 to  
replace it.

I then got to move from a lombard to the pismo my wife was using:-)
It loaded 10.4.2 like a champ. Tossed in a 5400 RPM drive and more  
RAM, still waiting on another 512

Runs great!

I will say the lombard is obsolete since it can't install 10.4 only  
10.3.9 and lower.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[Robert Eye]

Go to 

http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

and search the drive compatibility database. Over 100
entries for Combo DVD-CDR (under Select a Mac Model,
use PowerBook G3 2000 Rage128 Mobility). At least one
mention there about the "quality" of the LM drive.

Most all of the entries are for the expansion bay -
having never owned a Pismo, I assume this is the most
common way of integrating this type of drive?

You might try these guys for a replacement drive

http://www.centrix-intl.com/fulllist.asp

I haven't used them and have no financial interest in
them; I found them while looking for a CDRW to put in
my son's new (to him) clamshell iBook (I was planning
on buying one from them, but my son decided he didn't
need/want CDRW capability).

Just because these drives are "obsolete" from a
production standpoint, there's no reason to not use
the drive (new or "pre-owned"). Heck, the Pismo is
"obsolete."

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

--- K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good evening Lista's,
> My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south.. 
> Does anyone know if 
> the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for
> the Pismo as a 
> replacement?  I am really tired of screwing around
> with the LG to get it 
> working...It hast to be ejected and smacked on the
> table in order to get 
> it to recognize that there is a dvd or  cd in
> it...Once it recognizes 
> that something is there, it works fine..but it it's
> a real pain to do 
> that every time and the rest of the family is really
> PO'd about it...
> If anyone on list happens to have or knows someone
> that has a working 
> complete unit, please respond off line...
> My son has now installed Tiger on this Pismo and it
> seems to be runing 
> like a raped ape!!  Pismo 400..1gb ram 10gb Toshiba
> hd 10.42
> Regards and thanks in advance,
> Mike K

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Re: Pismo > Panasonic LCD

[Luis Sequeira]

 > On 8/30/05, Anne Judge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I had a problem at a scuba club meeting; the presenter had a 12" PB
 and the video out would NOT talk to the projector.  I fortunately had
 brought my 17"; my display connect would also not work, but I was
 able to use my S-video port. . .


On Aug 30, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Van Snyder wrote:

 I think I had a similar problem with my Pismo/vga to LCD projector -
 this one was a Sony.  However, it warned me that it couldn't support
 it at that resolution.  Did you allow it to 'detect displays'?


To tell you the truth, I don't really remember what I tried - this 
was 6 months ago and a one-time thing.  But it definitely shook my 
confidence that I could handle anything Mac!  (Well, I did handle it, 
but if I hadn't brought my 17" with its extra port, I don't think I 
would have succeeded, since I'd already tried everything I could 
think of with the speaker's 12".)


I once had a similar experience, where the S-video out of my TiBook 
saved the day. It turned out that neither my TiBook nor my 
colleague's iBook were at fault, but the vga cable was bad. Since 
then I've given many classes in the same lecture hall with my TiBook 
and the same projector - using the vga connection.
I would NOT assume that the fault lies with the mac. Issues like 
resolution are more likely to be causing that problem.


Luis Sequeira

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[PeterH5322]

In a message dated 8/30/05 9:11:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south..  Does anyone know if 

the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for the Pismo as a 

replacement?
>>

The MATSHITA (Panasonic) drive in the machine is obsolete, and Panasonic is 
not making any more tray loading drives.

Every one has been replaced by the UJ-845-B, which is a slot loader, is +/- 
everything, and is two-layer DVD-R-R/W.

Sadly, this isn't on Apple's "approved" list, so you will have to use 
PatchBurn to support it.

A perhaps better choice is the Pioneer DVR-K05, which IS supported by 10.4, 
but is not by 10.3 without PatchBurn.

This Pioneer drive has a tray loading variant.

I have both of these drives in my Lombard and Pismo, and they are fine for 
DVD playing and CD reading and writing, but I have yet to successfully burn a 
DVD with these.

The "fine print" on these drives is they work best with an 80-wire/40-pin 
cable, but that is NOT the way they can be installed in a laptop, although 
there 
ARE adapters which are intended for installing these drives in "Shuttle" type 
PeeCees, and which DO support 80-wire/40-pin cables.

Perhaps this is the old multiword vs DMA issue with some of the PowerPCs?

Anyway, I know of no currently manufactured drive which will accept the 
Lombard/Pismo bezel, and the same is true of the MCE drives for the Wallstreet.

The tray loading Pioneer drive (DVR-K15?) is just enough different in the 
bezel attachment area that is is a NO-GO.

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Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

[K]

Good evening Lista's,
My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south..  Does anyone know if 
the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for the Pismo as a 
replacement?  I am really tired of screwing around with the LG to get it 
working...It hast to be ejected and smacked on the table in order to get 
it to recognize that there is a dvd or  cd in it...Once it recognizes 
that something is there, it works fine..but it it's a real pain to do 
that every time and the rest of the family is really PO'd about it...
If anyone on list happens to have or knows someone that has a working 
complete unit, please respond off line...
My son has now installed Tiger on this Pismo and it seems to be runing 
like a raped ape!!  Pismo 400..1gb ram 10gb Toshiba hd 10.42

Regards and thanks in advance,
Mike K

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Re: Pismo > Panasonic LCD

[Anne Judge]

On 8/30/05, Anne Judge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I had a problem at a scuba club meeting; the presenter had a 12" PB
and the video out would NOT talk to the projector.  I fortunately had
brought my 17"; my display connect would also not work, but I was
able to use my S-video port. . .


On Aug 30, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Van Snyder wrote:

I think I had a similar problem with my Pismo/vga to LCD projector -
this one was a Sony.  However, it warned me that it couldn't support
it at that resolution.  Did you allow it to 'detect displays'?


To tell you the truth, I don't really remember what I tried - this  
was 6 months ago and a one-time thing.  But it definitely shook my  
confidence that I could handle anything Mac!  (Well, I did handle it,  
but if I hadn't brought my 17" with its extra port, I don't think I  
would have succeeded, since I'd already tried everything I could  
think of with the speaker's 12".)


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Re: Pismo > Panasonic LCD

[Van Snyder]

I think I had a similar problem with my Pismo/vga to LCD projector -
this one was a Sony.  However, it warned me that it couldn't support
it at that resolution.  Did you allow it to 'detect displays'?

On 8/30/05, Anne Judge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 30, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Robert Eye wrote:
> 
> > Sometimes projectors seem to be particular about the
> > resolution they are trying to project; the laptop and
> > the projector have to match.
> 
> I had a problem at a scuba club meeting; the presenter had a 12" PB
> and the video out would NOT talk to the projector.  I fortunately had
> brought my 17"; my display connect would also not work, but I was
> able to use my S-video port.  We networked the 2 machines & I ran her
> powerpoint presentation on my PB & sent the video to the projector.
> We never did get the video out working with that projector, though
> I've had no problem with other projectors.
> 
> Anne
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Re: Pismo > Panasonic LCD

[Anne Judge]

On Aug 30, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Robert Eye wrote:


Sometimes projectors seem to be particular about the
resolution they are trying to project; the laptop and
the projector have to match.


I had a problem at a scuba club meeting; the presenter had a 12" PB  
and the video out would NOT talk to the projector.  I fortunately had  
brought my 17"; my display connect would also not work, but I was  
able to use my S-video port.  We networked the 2 machines & I ran her  
powerpoint presentation on my PB & sent the video to the projector.   
We never did get the video out working with that projector, though  
I've had no problem with other projectors.


Anne


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Re: Pismo > Panasonic LCD

[Robert Eye]

Sometimes projectors seem to be particular about the
resolution they are trying to project; the laptop and
the projector have to match. We've had some
difficulties at monthly meetings getting the
presenter's personal laptops to connect to our
projector (a Dell labeled projector - not sure if it's
LCD or DLS). All encounters here are with
Windows-based laptops.

I assume your Pismo works with other projectors and
external monitors?

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

P.S. You wrote: "Luckily crowd was very polite, only
heard one muttering of "must be Apple computers".

I remember Apple's commercial where a Windows laptop
can't do the job during a presentation, and the
members of the audience are calling out various
suggestions to fix the problem. The last suggestion
was "Get a Macintosh."


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>   There I was with my brilliant Keynote presentation
> and eager audience.
> 
>   Could not get contact between Pismo and the
> Panasonic LCD. Cable was 
> the the same at each end, fitted the 15 pin D
> connector on the back of 
> the Pismo. I tried shutting down each, restarting
> each simultaneously, 
> and then each one first, etc, etc, per "help"
> instructions, but could 
> not get a hint of connection apart from the led on
> the LCD blinking 
> briefly when I clicked on 'detect displays' in
> System Preferences > 
> Displays.
> 
>   Only gave a precis of my talk, unaided, hopefully
> can connect & 
> present another day.
> 
>   Luckily crowd was very polite, only heard one
> muttering of "must be 
> Apple computers". Could not find the book for the
> LCD, not sure it 
> would have been in English if I had found it!
> 
>   Anybody know what I was doing wrong?
> 
>   TIA,
>   Stuart.
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Pismo > Panasonic LCD

[Stuart Saunders]

There I was with my brilliant Keynote presentation and eager audience.

	Could not get contact between Pismo and the Panasonic LCD. Cable was 
the the same at each end, fitted the 15 pin D connector on the back of 
the Pismo. I tried shutting down each, restarting each simultaneously, 
and then each one first, etc, etc, per "help" instructions, but could 
not get a hint of connection apart from the led on the LCD blinking 
briefly when I clicked on 'detect displays' in System Preferences > 
Displays.


	Only gave a precis of my talk, unaided, hopefully can connect & 
present another day.


	Luckily crowd was very polite, only heard one muttering of "must be 
Apple computers". Could not find the book for the LCD, not sure it 
would have been in English if I had found it!


Anybody know what I was doing wrong?

TIA,
Stuart.


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Re: linux on a pismo

[Brian Sammon]

> hey small price to pay for the rest of it all, What other linux will run
> on the pismo or even the 366 ibook clam as i have one of those sat doing
> nothing at the moment.

The primary criterion is whether the Mac is "OldWorld" (Openfirmware version 
<3) or "NewWorld" (OpenFirmware version >= 3)
The pismo and all models of ibook are New World systems.  Any PPC version of 
linux will boot and install on any New World system.  It's possible that 
certain components of certain models may not be as well supported as under 
OSX, but you will be able to install Linux.
Here's a list of different linux versions:  http://www.penguinppc.org/about/dis
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Re: linux on a pismo

[Alan C. Magnus]

On Aug 24, 2005, at 5:26 pm, victoria duggan wrote:


Hi It is version 4.10 powerpc version.

vicki



Thanks Vicki

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Re: linux on a pismo

[Krow Magnum]

On 8/24/05, Alan C. Magnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 24, 2005, at 5:09 pm, victoria duggan wrote:
> 
> > Hi All been playing around today with my spare pismo (back up mac) and
> > deceided to load ubuntu linux on it and WOW!!! it is fast stable and
> > very user friendly. The system specs before i started were 400cpu 384
> > ram 10gb hdd airport card fitted cdrw/dvd combo, running 10.4.2
> >
> > now running linux I think i might just keep it on it because it synced
> > with my wireless network straight away and the book is running
> > perfect,
> > I have the full install on there and i still have over 6 gb for files.
> > My ipod is seen as a hdd and my external hdd (fire wire is seen also)
> > the only thing that is not good is that it only supports 1 battery,
> > But
> > hey small price to pay for the rest of it all, What other linux
> > will run
> > on the pismo or even the 366 ibook clam as i have one of those sat
> > doing
> > nothing at the moment.
> >
> > TIA for any info
> >
> >
> 
> Vicki
> 
> Which version of Ubuntu?
> 
> Alan
> 
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I played withe Ubuntu version 5.0.4 on my 366 Clamshell and it's
pretty cool for a freebie. And they send you CD's for free. I have
several if anyoe wants one. I also have a few exrta x86 versions as
well.

The CD comes with a "live" CD also which is a bootable CD that you can
see what Ubuntu is like.

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Re: linux on a pismo

[victoria duggan]

Hi It is version 4.10 powerpc version.

vicki
> 

> 
> Which version of Ubuntu?
> 
> Alan
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Re: linux on a pismo

[Alan C. Magnus]

On Aug 24, 2005, at 5:09 pm, victoria duggan wrote:


Hi All been playing around today with my spare pismo (back up mac) and
deceided to load ubuntu linux on it and WOW!!! it is fast stable and
very user friendly. The system specs before i started were 400cpu 384
ram 10gb hdd airport card fitted cdrw/dvd combo, running 10.4.2

now running linux I think i might just keep it on it because it synced
with my wireless network straight away and the book is running  
perfect,

I have the full install on there and i still have over 6 gb for files.
My ipod is seen as a hdd and my external hdd (fire wire is seen also)
the only thing that is not good is that it only supports 1 battery,  
But
hey small price to pay for the rest of it all, What other linux  
will run
on the pismo or even the 366 ibook clam as i have one of those sat  
doing

nothing at the moment.

TIA for any info




Vicki

Which version of Ubuntu?

Alan

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linux on a pismo

[victoria duggan]

Hi All been playing around today with my spare pismo (back up mac) and
deceided to load ubuntu linux on it and WOW!!! it is fast stable and
very user friendly. The system specs before i started were 400cpu 384
ram 10gb hdd airport card fitted cdrw/dvd combo, running 10.4.2 

now running linux I think i might just keep it on it because it synced
with my wireless network straight away and the book is running perfect,
I have the full install on there and i still have over 6 gb for files.
My ipod is seen as a hdd and my external hdd (fire wire is seen also)
the only thing that is not good is that it only supports 1 battery, But
hey small price to pay for the rest of it all, What other linux will run
on the pismo or even the 366 ibook clam as i have one of those sat doing
nothing at the moment.

TIA for any info 


Vicki


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Re: Pismo and dead CD/DVD

[PeterH5322]

>I'd wager it is a DRN-8080 - they are very unreliable.

The SR-8173-C in my Lombard has been reliable, but I have little use for 
a drive which cannot be written to.


>You can fit any other drive in the module (just about) but the bezel won't
>fit unless you match the mechanism.

Slot loaders are the easiest to upgrade to.

You MUST use a 12.7mm drive. A 9.5mm drive will not fit properly.

The Panasonic 2-layer writer is OK on 9 (and Toast) but needs PatchBurn 
for X (and Finder level burning).

The Pioneer 2-layer writer is OK, too, and is supported on 10.4 without 
PatchBurn and on 10.3 with PatchBurn.

PatchBurn appears to be necessary to play +R DVDs which have been burned 
on appliance-type recorders, but -R DVDs (obsolete in my shop) and 
manufactured DVDs work without PatchBurn.

The Panasonic type tray bezel, say, one salvaged from your old drive, 
will not fit a Pioneer tray loading drive, and Panasonic doesn't make a 
tray loader any more.


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Re: Pismo and dead CD/DVD

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> 
> We have two Pismo 400 power books that the CD/DVD drives are dead in.
> What is the cheapest and effective way to try and get some more use
> from them? Once in a while it will recognize a disk.
> 
> Is this a common problem with these computers.
> 
> Neither one of us have had any luck find a suggestion as to what
> would be a simple and good solution.

Replace the mechanism.

I'd wager it is a DRN-8080 - they are very unreliable.

Buy another mechanism and slot it in place and you are away.

You can fit any other drive in the module (just about) but the bezel won't
fit unless you match the mechanism.

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Re: Pismo and dead CD/DVD

[John]

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We have two Pismo 400 power books that the CD/DVD drives are dead in. 
What is the cheapest and effective way to try and get some more use 
from them? Once in a while it will recognize a disk.


Is this a common problem with these computers.

Neither one of us have had any luck find a suggestion as to what 
would be a simple and good solution.


Model M7931. They have been used very little. Tiger needs a DVD to 
install and I assume all the upgrades will be the same.



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Re: Pismo internal hard drive won't spin up

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 06/08/05 13:19, Jan Georgen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I posted much of the following to the Apple PowerBook Usage
> discussion, am also
> trying here in search of much needed help!
> 
> I replaced the sound/ac card and the power switch in a 400mHz Pismo.
> The computer chimes and I can get the screen to light up with both AC
> and//or a battery (the battery also charges). The internal hard drive
> will not, however, spin up.
> 
> So I pulled the hard drive out of my 500mHz Pismo, 1 gig RAM (drive
> previously known to work) and tried to boot from it, same result. I
> then pulled the internal hard drive out and inserted my expansion bay
> hard drive (Yes! I have one of those great old rarities that
> currently houses a 60gig 5400rpm drive!) and the computer booted.
> 
> This morning I returned my hard drive to my Pismo and got the same
> results as with the 400mHz Pismo: no spinning, only the grey screen.
> If I try to boot into target mode, my computer shuts down. Also, as
> long as the internal drive is connected, my expansion bay drives
> (hard drive + CD-ROM) do nothing. I ran Disk Utility on the drive
> (after placing it in an external case and mounting it to my Sawtooth)
> and got the 'okay' but when I tried Disk Warrior, I was informed that
> the directory was way too messed up to fix. The drive does, however,
> mount when in the external case and I was able to copy all of my
> documents etc. to another drive (whew).
> 
> I am stumped. Could there be something with the sound/ac card that
> provides power to everything else, but not the internal hard drive?
> Can the internal ATA somehow short and screw up the hard drive
> ribbon? Or might I have missed a wire/connection??
> Or
> 
> Any ideas will be appreciated, thanks in advance.

Have you tried reseating the processor daughtercard?

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pismo

[victoria duggan]

Hi All

sorry for this but i have a spare pismo and rather than it go to  
waste, i want to trade it for a tower to use as a print server.


need to know if anyone in the uk needs a pismo, that would want to  
trade for a g4 tower. i do not need much ram or a hdd in the tower  
just a working unit. i have ram i cann add and i also have a hdd to  
drop in it.


anyone interested drop me a line and i will give you the specs on the  
pismo.


vicki

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Pismo internal hard drive won't spin up

[Jan Georgen]

I posted much of the following to the Apple PowerBook Usage  
discussion, am also

trying here in search of much needed help!

I replaced the sound/ac card and the power switch in a 400mHz Pismo.  
The computer chimes and I can get the screen to light up with both AC  
and//or a battery (the battery also charges). The internal hard drive  
will not, however, spin up.


So I pulled the hard drive out of my 500mHz Pismo, 1 gig RAM (drive  
previously known to work) and tried to boot from it, same result. I  
then pulled the internal hard drive out and inserted my expansion bay  
hard drive (Yes! I have one of those great old rarities that  
currently houses a 60gig 5400rpm drive!) and the computer booted.


This morning I returned my hard drive to my Pismo and got the same  
results as with the 400mHz Pismo: no spinning, only the grey screen.  
If I try to boot into target mode, my computer shuts down. Also, as  
long as the internal drive is connected, my expansion bay drives  
(hard drive + CD-ROM) do nothing. I ran Disk Utility on the drive  
(after placing it in an external case and mounting it to my Sawtooth)  
and got the 'okay' but when I tried Disk Warrior, I was informed that  
the directory was way too messed up to fix. The drive does, however,  
mount when in the external case and I was able to copy all of my  
documents etc. to another drive (whew).


I am stumped. Could there be something with the sound/ac card that  
provides power to everything else, but not the internal hard drive?  
Can the internal ATA somehow short and screw up the hard drive  
ribbon? Or might I have missed a wire/connection??

Or

Any ideas will be appreciated, thanks in advance.

Jan Georgen

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quicktime 7·0·1 on Pismo

[Bruce Ryan]

Hey Dan & G-bookers

I have a Pismo 400MHz, 768 RAM, 40G HD running OS 10.3.9.  Will I have
any problems updating from Quicktime 6.5.2 to Quicktime 7.0.1?
Will it be an improvement? I have noticed my Quicktime Player to be
somewhat slow at times, but that may just be my "slow" computer.


I haven't noticed any performance difference 
moving up to 7·0·1 under 10·3·9 on my 400MHz 
Pismo. I think there's something about if you 
already have the 'pro' (i.e paid for) version of 
Quicktime and upgrade to this version, then 
you'll have to pay again to get the 'pro' version 
of 7·0·1.


interested to hear how you get on

Bruce

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Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing

[JeffH]

- Original Message - > From: Andrew Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:37:02 -0600
>
> Francesco sciacca wrote:
>
> > I've found the information you have provided (quoted below)
> > invaluable. My
> > problem is the light bulb replacement for a Lombard and I take it the
> > disassembling guides you point to will still be valid (with minor
> > differences). I wonder though about the specific bulb. I know the
> > Lombard
> > and Pismo displays are not interchangable, but I well suppose the bulb
> > at
> > least should be the same part. But I'd like to get a definitive word
> > on that
> > from some knowledge source.
>
> Sorry, I can't give detailed information. There are two display panels
> used in both the Lombard and Pismo (661-2217 LG and 922-3808 Samsung),
> each of which has its own specific cable (which was why I couldn't put
> a bright display panel from a Lombard into my Pismo); the light bulbs
> may also be different.
>

The actual fluoruoescent bulb in each display is the same. For that matter,
it appears to be the same in every 14" display I have taken apart. It can be
removed with a #00 philips screwdriver, you have to take apart the actual
metal frame of the LCD. And yes, it's a job that can be done at home. If you
can get to the point where the LCD is out of the housing, you can do this
too.

JSH


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Completely Naive Video RAM Question (Pismo)

[Barry Muller]

I recnetly got a great deal on a 400 MHz Pismo with a
bad battery and as it turns out a bad HD.  I've
upgraded to a Hitachi 40 GB HD and added an Airport
Card and couldn't be happier with this Mac, except for
the 8 MB Video limit.

Seems that back in the day of the the Performa Macs I
read that the RAM you got was partially used for video
- so you really didn't have 32 MB (or whatever)
available for (non-video) memory.

Fast forward to today ... My Pismo has 576 MB RAM, is
there a compelling reason that a clever person
couldn't figure out a way to use some of that for
video?

Like I said in the subject "Naive".  I await the
flames ... ;-)

Barry

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Re: Pismo Temperature Sensor

[Andrew Main]

Dylan McDermond wrote:


Does the Pismo truly not have a temperature sensor? I find that a
little hard to believe, but my wife's Pismo 400 running 10.4.2 says
that it doesn't when I try running Temperature Monitor 2.5 and
ThermoInDock 0.9. Is this something that Tiger has broken? Will this
keep the fan from kicking on if it heats up too much?


The Pismo does have a temperature sensor, but something was changed in 
one of the 10.3.x updates that made it impossible for Temperature 
Monitor and other utilities to read from it. The fan will go on when it 
overheats. I find mine overheats (both when it was a 500MHz G3 and now 
as a 550MHz G4) when (a) there is intense disk activity, such as 
copying multi-GBs or installing System software (which is annoying, but 
nothing I can do about the latter so I just leave the room); and (b) 
when certain apps hog the CPU. When the fan starts screaming during 
normal use, I open Activity Monitor to see which is the culprit; 
usually it's Safari suddenly using 70-90% of the CPU; I look through 
the pages I have open and close any that look suspicious (one that 
consistently causes this problem is the International Herald Tribune 
<http://www.iht.com>) until Safari retires back to its customary 
10-20%, then after a while the fan will shut up. Another CPU hog is 
Canon's CanoScan utility; some kind of sloppy coding, I guess.



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Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing

[Andrew Main]

Francesco sciacca wrote:

I've found the information you have provided (quoted below) 
invaluable. My

problem is the light bulb replacement for a Lombard and I take it the
disassembling guides you point to will still be valid (with minor
differences). I wonder though about the specific bulb. I know the 
Lombard
and Pismo displays are not interchangable, but I well suppose the bulb 
at
least should be the same part. But I'd like to get a definitive word 
on that

from some knowledge source.


Sorry, I can't give detailed information. There are two display panels 
used in both the Lombard and Pismo (661-2217 LG and 922-3808 Samsung), 
each of which has its own specific cable (which was why I couldn't put 
a bright display panel from a Lombard into my Pismo); the light bulbs 
may also be different.



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Re: Pismo Temperature Sensor

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 26, 2005, at 5:19 PM, Dylan McDermond wrote:

Does the Pismo truly not have a temperature sensor? I find that a  
little hard to believe, but my wife's Pismo 400 running 10.4.2 says  
that it doesn't when I try running Temperature Monitor 2.5 and  
ThermoInDock 0.9. Is this something that Tiger has broken? Will  
this keep the fan from kicking on if it heats up too much?


The Pismo does have a temperature sensor, in hardware, connected to  
the fan system. But both these programs come with caveats that they  
don't necessarily detect all of them.


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Pismo Temperature Sensor

[Dylan McDermond]

Does the Pismo truly not have a temperature sensor? I find that a  
little hard to believe, but my wife's Pismo 400 running 10.4.2 says  
that it doesn't when I try running Temperature Monitor 2.5 and  
ThermoInDock 0.9. Is this something that Tiger has broken? Will this  
keep the fan from kicking on if it heats up too much?


- Dylan


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Upgrade Orinoco OEM card, Was Re: Pismo wireless questions

[Kenneth Vann]

 Would it be possible to use the Airport Base Station to up upgrade a OEM
version (Dell, Sony, IBM, ect) of the Orinoco Silver Card?

I am assuming that one would need a Snow Base Station. Perhaps using a
Graphite would upgrade an OEM card to one that is listed as a Silver card.

The Orinoco software will list the card as a Gold/Silver or third party.

Any info or links would be helpful. I have both a Graphite and Snow I can use.

Thanks

Ken Vann


>From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Pismo wireless questions
>Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:49:28 -0700
>
>On Jul 23, 2005, at 2:48 AM, kaldav wrote:
>
>
>> 3. Is this the card that can be 'set to a higher enryption level'
>> by inserting it into an ibook Airport slot and opening the Airport
>> software to configure it, according to the website  listed here
>> several times?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. You can upgrade it to 'Gold status that way, although getting it
>in an iBook is a pain, an Airport Base station is easier.
>

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Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing

[Francesco sciacca]

Andrew,

I've found the information you have provided (quoted below) invaluable. My
problem is the light bulb replacement for a Lombard and I take it the
disassembling guides you point to will still be valid (with minor
differences). I wonder though about the specific bulb. I know the Lombard
and Pismo displays are not interchangable, but I well suppose the bulb at
least should be the same part. But I'd like to get a definitive word on that
from some knowledge source. 

cheers,
gianfranco

> For any who might be interested, here's the 
> information I have:
> 
> Pismo LCD Lamp And Display Replacement, by Charles Moore
> Information for do-it-yourself &
> <http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/04/10/19/>
> 
> Bulb available from Digi-Key for $13 (search for part #289-1108-ND)
> <http://digikey.com/>
> 
> Wegener Media: bulb $70, replacement service $200
> <http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismop.htm>
> 
> The Last Pismo Upgrade, by Norman Shutler
> Reviews bulb replacement and further brightness enhancements by 
> IDParts, Inc.
> <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/tips/backlight_brightness_Film.html>
> 
> IDParts quotes bulb replacement at $95
> <http://www.idparts.com/laptoprepairs.htm>
> Not sure of the details yet, but at this price I'd rather pay to have 
> it done than try to do it myself; I've taken apart a lot of PowerBooks, 
> but dismantling display panel assemblies is more stress than I'd care 
> to deal with. Used to do my own auto tuneups, too, but now I pay a real 
> mechanic who can do in an hour what took me an afternoon.
> 
> I actually have two more 'Pismo' PowerBooks, in addition to my own 
> trusty companion (which has a 550MHz G4, 40GB HD, 640MB RAM), which I'm 
> preparing to sell; at least one will also need the bulb replaced. As 
> for take-apart, I have the Apple service manual, and excellent 
> instructions are provided online at, inter alia:
> 
> PBFixIt
> <http://www.pbfixit.com/Guide/>
> 
> PowerBook Tech
> <http://www.powerbooktech.com/knowledge,type-2.htm>
> 
> Andrew Main

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Re: Pismo wireless questions

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 23, 2005, at 2:48 AM, kaldav wrote:



Hello,
I'm setting up a Pismo for someone and would like to ask:

1. I have an Orinoco  Wifi card 11Mbit/s Silver Lucent  
Technologies. Should I use the latest Airport software for this, or  
the Orinoco drivers version 7.2?




Under OS 9 either will do.



2. Will this card only work in OS9, or are there drivers for OSX,  
such as the Airport drivers?




there are third party OS X drivers; Airport software won't work.



3. Is this the card that can be 'set to a higher enryption level'  
by inserting it into an ibook Airport slot and opening the Airport  
software to configure it, according to the website  listed here  
several times?





Yes. You can upgrade it to 'Gold status that way, although getting it  
in an iBook is a pain, an Airport Base station is easier.




4. Will this Orinoco card allow me to connect to an Airport base  
station? (is there any difference in use for a Pismo between the  
'graphite' and 'snow' base stations I see listed on the swap list?




Yes, 802.11b is 802.11b...the Silver card needs to use the 64n Bit  
WEP key, not the 128 bit one.





5. If I have this card and buy an Airport Base station with the  
modem included, is there anything else I would need to buy to  
connect to a dial in internet connection?

Thanks.



Nope, that's how I'm sending this right now, save I'm using a Airport  
card. The Orinoco card I have is used in my 5300.


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Re: pismo

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On Jul 25, 2005, at 8:30 AM, victoria duggan wrote:


Hi All Quick Question

I have a pismo that is set up with air port card running 10.4.2   
and one that has the intel pro wireless card running system 9.2.2  
what i want to do is make both of them see the network printers i  
use via wireless.


The pismo with 10.4.2 is fine no problems but the one running 9.2.2  
has to print to a file on the other pismo's desktop then i have to  
print from there. I know that changing the wireless card and  
putting both pismos on 10.4.2 is the option but i have had to pay  
for the drivers for the acrd via ioxperts when i was useing 9 and  
money is an issue so i can not really afford to pay any more. is  
there a way that i can make the 9 pismo see my printers cross  
platform,


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Set up printer on the OS 9 machine. You should now be able to print  
from the OS 9 machine.


You can share printers in  9 or X but not  between 9 and X.

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pismo

[victoria duggan]

Hi All Quick Question

I have a pismo that is set up with air port card running 10.4.2  and  
one that has the intel pro wireless card running system 9.2.2 what i  
want to do is make both of them see the network printers i use via  
wireless.


The pismo with 10.4.2 is fine no problems but the one running 9.2.2  
has to print to a file on the other pismo's desktop then i have to  
print from there. I know that changing the wireless card and putting  
both pismos on 10.4.2 is the option but i have had to pay for the  
drivers for the acrd via ioxperts when i was useing 9 and money is an  
issue so i can not really afford to pay any more. is there a way that  
i can make the 9 pismo see my printers cross platform,


TIA VICKI 
 


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Pismo wireless questions

[kaldav]

Hello,
I'm setting up a Pismo for someone and would like to ask:

1. I have an Orinoco  Wifi card 11Mbit/s Silver Lucent Technologies. 
Should I use the latest Airport software for this, or the Orinoco 
drivers version 7.2?


2. Will this card only work in OS9, or are there drivers for OSX, 
such as the Airport drivers?


3. Is this the card that can be 'set to a higher enryption level' by 
inserting it into an ibook Airport slot and opening the Airport 
software to configure it, according to the website  listed here 
several times?


4. Will this Orinoco card allow me to connect to an Airport base 
station? (is there any difference in use for a Pismo between the 
'graphite' and 'snow' base stations I see listed on the swap list?


5. If I have this card and buy an Airport Base station with the modem 
included, is there anything else I would need to buy to connect to a 
dial in internet connection?

Thanks.

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Pismo and Windows mp3 player/ software question

[kaldav]

I am setting up a Pismo for Windows user who has a Windows mp3 
player. I have been asked if this will work on the Pismo. Hopefully 
someone can give me a definitive answer.


1. The person bought an mp3 player about two years ago (it may be 
called a Lyra). The player is listed as compatible with Windows 98E, 
XP, ME, or 2000. The person wants to use the software to transfer 
music from the CDs she owns to this mp3 player, rather than 
downloading music from the internet.
Would this mp3 player work on the Mac if the software CD was 
installed through Virtual PC v6.1?


2. The software CD is 'Music Management Software' by RCA. The program 
is 'Musicmatch'. I was wondering if iTunes software ever had luck 
connecting with other mp3 players, rather than an ipod?


3. Or, can she insert her audio CD and copy a song to itunes, then 
somehow export it to the Windows mp3 player? What is the .extension 
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Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing

[Andrew Main]

Fabian Fang wrote:

Dan, the PowerBook Guy in San Francisco, with website at http:// 
www.powerbookguy.com, sells a lot of PowerBook service parts. While I 
do not see a "light bulb" as such on his Pismo page, he can probably 
get it for you.


The PowerBook Guy has a great selection, but he's a wee bit expensive; 
I don't think I've ever bought anything from him, as I can usually find 
better sources. In any case, I can get the bulb; see below.


Jeffrey Gaier wrote:

While I had my Pismo in being serviced for a logic board problem, my 
monitor had a slight pink problem that went scarlet red after the 
logic board replacement. I honestly don't remember if it was the 
screen or video card, but they (the local mac repair shop) replaced it 
right away and just told me the problem occured and they fixed it.


From what I've read (see below) the pink/red color is mostly likely the 
bulb growing old; of course replacing the whole display with one with a 
good bulb would fix it.


I've owned my Pismo since new and I think I've spent at least 1500 in 
additional repairs and upgrades to it. By far compared with my 17" 
powerbook thePismo is still a great computer.


Indeed, I'm very fond of mine, but am thinking seriously of moving up 
to a 17" G4, for added display space and power. I haven't tried 10.4 
yet, but although a recent upgrade to 550MHz G4 considerably enhanced 
the Pismo's ability to work with OS X, it's still frustratingly slow at 
times. I'll certainly miss the Pismo's ergonomics, especially the 
one-hand trackpad; the G4 PBs' design is very snazzy looking, but less 
usable, requiring two hands for the trackpad, which is annoying.


Thanks for the responses to my query. I was wondering if there might be 
any new information in the user community since the last time I 
researched this. For any who might be interested, here's the 
information I have:


Pismo LCD Lamp And Display Replacement, by Charles Moore
Information for do-it-yourself &
<http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/04/10/19/>

Bulb available from Digi-Key for $13 (search for part #289-1108-ND)
<http://digikey.com/>

Wegener Media: bulb $70, replacement service $200
<http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismop.htm>

The Last Pismo Upgrade, by Norman Shutler
Reviews bulb replacement and further brightness enhancements by 
IDParts, Inc.

<http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/tips/backlight_brightness_Film.html>

IDParts quotes bulb replacement at $95
<http://www.idparts.com/laptoprepairs.htm>
Not sure of the details yet, but at this price I'd rather pay to have 
it done than try to do it myself; I've taken apart a lot of PowerBooks, 
but dismantling display panel assemblies is more stress than I'd care 
to deal with. Used to do my own auto tuneups, too, but now I pay a real 
mechanic who can do in an hour what took me an afternoon.


I actually have two more 'Pismo' PowerBooks, in addition to my own 
trusty companion (which has a 550MHz G4, 40GB HD, 640MB RAM), which I'm 
preparing to sell; at least one will also need the bulb replaced. As 
for take-apart, I have the Apple service manual, and excellent 
instructions are provided online at, inter alia:


PBFixIt
<http://www.pbfixit.com/Guide/>

PowerBook Tech
<http://www.powerbooktech.com/knowledge,type-2.htm>

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Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing

[Jeffrey Gaier]

While I had my Pismo in being serviced for a logic board problem, my  
monitor had a slight pink problem that went scarlet red after the  
logic board replacement. I honestly don't remember if it was the  
screen or video card, but they (the local mac repair shop) replaced  
it right away and just told me the problem occured and they fixed it.  
I wasn't even charged for the repair.


I've owned my Pismo since new and I think I've spent at least 1500 in  
additional repairs and upgrades to it. By far compared with my 17"  
powerbook the Pismo is still a great computer.


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Re: Pismo PowerBook display failing

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On Jul 19, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Andrew Main wrote:

My 'Pismo' PowerBook's display is starting to show the dreaded pink  
tinge. It appears whenever the PB awakens from sleep (or starts  
up), in the lower left area of the screen, and goes away after a  
few minutes. I remember there has been some discussion of this in  
the past, but don't recall the details. Anyone have any  
suggestions? Is it caused by the light bulb, which I understand can  
be replaced? Can anyone suggest a good source and instructions? Or  
is it something in the display panel itself?


Andrew:

Dan, the PowerBook Guy in San Francisco, with website at www.powerbookguy.com>, sells a lot of PowerBook service parts.  While  
I do not see a "light bulb" as such on his Pismo page, he can  
probably get it for you.  If you do not have ready access to the  
Apple Service Manual for Pismo, with detailed take-apart  
instructions, please write me off-list.


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Pismo PowerBook display failing

[Andrew Main]

My 'Pismo' PowerBook's display is starting to show the dreaded pink 
tinge. It appears whenever the PB awakens from sleep (or starts up), in 
the lower left area of the screen, and goes away after a few minutes. I 
remember there has been some discussion of this in the past, but don't 
recall the details. Anyone have any suggestions? Is it caused by the 
light bulb, which I understand can be replaced? Can anyone suggest a 
good source and instructions? Or is it something in the display panel 
itself?


Thanks,
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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

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On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, is there any way to access the archives of previous messages on
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> 

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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

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1) Yes you can... Tiger is recommended for those jumping into the fray. 
Remember to do the following before installing though: Update the firmware to 
the latest (I can't stress this enough), make sure you have at least 128MB of 
RAM in there, and get a larger HD. I personally have a 40GB in mine from 
Hitachi, and it is smooth and quiet.

2) 128MB is the minimum, although my personal minimum is 320MB. 512MB is 
perfect for most use, and 1GB isn't worth the time IMO. You can grab the 256MB 
module like you are thinking, which is actually what I did at first, then 
swapped out the 64MB module for another 256MB module later when I needed it.

3) Yup. In fact, updating to OS X will enable more functionality on the Airport 
card (WPA security which is better than WEP, newer firmware, and so on). Plus, 
with it being compatible with 802.11g (Airport Extreme), you shouldn't have any 
problems at all.

4) Definitely.


> Hi all,
> 
> I just joined this list with the hopes of learning more about upgrading 
> my G3 PowerBook.  It's 400 MHz and has FireWire ports, so I'm assuming 
> it's the Pismo FireWire model (if that's not correct, please tell me!)
> 
> It currently has 64MB of memory, which I'd like to increase as 
> inexpensively as possible.  I'd also like to upgrade it to OS X.  My 
> questions are:
> 
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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

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On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

I just joined this list with the hopes of learning more about  
upgrading my G3 PowerBook.  It's 400 MHz and has FireWire ports, so  
I'm assuming it's the Pismo FireWire model (if that's not correct,  
please tell me!)


It currently has 64MB of memory, which I'd like to increase as  
inexpensively as possible.  I'd also like to upgrade it to OS X.   
My questions are:


--Can I upgrade it to OS X?  Which version is the best for this  
model?  Do I need to do anything besides add more memory in order  
to do this?




I'm running 10.4.2 on mine, it's fast, reliable and I'm very happy  
with it. I also have 512 Mb of RAM.


--What is the minimum amount of memory I can get away with and  
still run OS X.  My computer needs are pretty basic: cruising the  
Web, email, basic word processing, etc.  I was thinking of adding a  
256MB module, which I saw for $28.67 at macsolutionsinc.com.


That would get you going, sure.

I'm a little unclear as to how this works though.  I know there are  
two slots.  Can I keep the existing 64MB memory chip and add the  
256MB module as well to bring it up to 320MB?


You definitely can.



--I have AirPort installed in this machine.  Does it work with the  
newer wireless technology?  For example, could I go into Starbucks  
and hook into their network using this model?




Yes, no problem. The technology used in the airport (802.11b, WEP) is  
still the baseline used by most of the wireless world, certainly in  
the public access arena.



--Can I use an iPod mini with this computer?  Since I do have the  
FireWire port, I'm thinking that I could if I'm able to upgrade to  
OS X and install iTunes on my computer.




Certainly. The only iPod you'll have any issues with is the Shuffle,  
and then only because synching will be veerryyy  
sllooww  at USB 1.1 speed.


That said, when I got my shuffle, I hadn't upgraded my USB yet; it  
just took a long time to synch.


You've got a nice old Powerbook.

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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

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On Jul 18, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Clark Martin wrote:



Speed isn't the only issue with the iPod shuffle.  There is also an  
issue with power.  The instructions for my wife's Shuffle says it  
needs a "Hi Power" USB port or 10.3.9 with older ports.


That simply means, for example, that you can't use the keyboard USB  
port or an un-powered hub.


As for the minimum OS, I forgot about that, but since the Pismo runs  
10.4, which runs better than 10.3 did on it, I see no reason to step  
back at all.


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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

[Nancy Lawrence]

On Jul 18, 2005, at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

I just joined this list with the hopes of learning more about  
upgrading my G3 PowerBook.  It's 400 MHz and has FireWire ports, so  
I'm assuming it's the Pismo FireWire model (if that's not correct,  
please tell me!)


Yes, it's a Pismo Firewire model, also sometimes referred to as  
Powerbook G3 2000.


It currently has 64MB of memory, which I'd like to increase as  
inexpensively as possible.  I'd also like to upgrade it to OS X.   
My questions are:


--Can I upgrade it to OS X?  Which version is the best for this  
model?  Do I need to do anything besides add more memory in order  
to do this?


I'm running 10.4.2 on my 400mhz Pismo and it's very snappy and so far  
also fairly stable, so I would recommend starting with it.  But I  
also upgraded to 1GB RAM and a 7200 rpm hard drive (stock drive, if  
that's what you have is 4200 rpm).


--What is the minimum amount of memory I can get away with and  
still run OS X.  My computer needs are pretty basic: cruising the  
Web, email, basic word processing, etc.  I was thinking of adding a  
256MB module, which I saw for $28.67 at macsolutionsinc.com.  I'm a  
little unclear as to how this works though.  I know there are two  
slots.  Can I keep the existing 64MB memory chip and add the 256MB  
module as well to bring it up to 320MB?  I'd love to add two 512MB  
modules to bring it up to 1 GB of memory, but I can't afford the  
$200.00 that would require right now.


Yes, you can do that.  If you're doing the RAM installation yourself,  
be sure to re-seat the processor card very firmly, so much so that it  
feels very much like you're doing something wrong and might break  
it.  You really have to press on it, but do so only in the bottom  
right corner.  When I upgraded my RAM I didn't know this, didn't have  
the processor card seated properly, and freaked out because I thought  
I had broken by beloved Pismo.  Which brings me to another point,  
with which I'm sure someone will disagree.  The Pismo is quite simply  
the best laptop Apple ever made.  It's a great machine, still robust  
despite being 5 years old, and very versatile and upgradeable as  
well.  I love mine and wouldn't part with it for anything.


--I have AirPort installed in this machine.  Does it work with the  
newer wireless technology?  For example, could I go into Starbucks  
and hook into their network using this model?


Yes.


--Can I use an iPod mini with this computer?  Since I do have the  
FireWire port, I'm thinking that I could if I'm able to upgrade to  
OS X and install iTunes on my computer.


Yes.


Also, is there any way to access the archives of previous messages  
on the list?


Yes, see below.


Thanks for any tips or advice--it's greatly appreciated!

Karin


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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

[Clark Martin]

At 11:02 AM -0700 7/18/05, Bruce Johnson wrote:

--Can I use an iPod mini with this computer?  Since I do have the 
FireWire port, I'm thinking that I could if I'm able to upgrade to 
OS X and install iTunes on my computer.




Certainly. The only iPod you'll have any issues with is the Shuffle, 
and then only because synching will be veerryyy 
sllooww  at USB 1.1 speed.


That said, when I got my shuffle, I hadn't upgraded my USB yet; it 
just took a long time to synch.




Speed isn't the only issue with the iPod shuffle.  There is also an 
issue with power.  The instructions for my wife's Shuffle says it 
needs a "Hi Power" USB port or 10.3.9 with older ports.

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Re: New to list with questions on Pismo

[Clark Martin]

At 9:44 AM -0700 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I just joined this list with the hopes of learning more about 
upgrading my G3 PowerBook.  It's 400 MHz and has FireWire ports, so 
I'm assuming it's the Pismo FireWire model (if that's not correct, 
please tell me!)


That is a Pismo.

It currently has 64MB of memory, which I'd like to increase as 
inexpensively as possible.  I'd also like to upgrade it to OS X.  My 
questions are:


--Can I upgrade it to OS X?  Which version is the best for this 
model?  Do I need to do anything besides add more memory in order to 
do this?


You might need a bigger harddisk.  You'll need about 5 Gb free or more.

You can go all the way up to Tiger (10.4.2).  I would use Panther 
(10.3.9) at a minimum.




--What is the minimum amount of memory I can get away with and still 
run OS X.  My computer needs are pretty basic: cruising the Web, 
email, basic word processing, etc.  I was thinking of adding a 256MB 
module, which I saw for $28.67 at macsolutionsinc.com.  I'm a little 
unclear as to how this works though.  I know there are two slots. 
Can I keep the existing 64MB memory chip and add the 256MB module as 
well to bring it up to 320MB?  I'd love to add two 512MB modules to 
bring it up to 1 GB of memory, but I can't afford the $200.00 that 
would require right now.


Adding 256 will do.  It is the minimum I'd try to work with.



--I have AirPort installed in this machine.  Does it work with the 
newer wireless technology?  For example, could I go into Starbucks 
and hook into their network using this model?


Sure.



--Can I use an iPod mini with this computer?  Since I do have the 
FireWire port, I'm thinking that I could if I'm able to upgrade to 
OS X and install iTunes on my computer.


Yes.  If you were to use an iPod Shuffle you'd need to install 10.3.9 
as a minimum but a full iPod or mini will work with earlier versions.


Also, is there any way to access the archives of previous messages 
on the list?




It's in the footers, see below.


Thanks for any tips or advice--it's greatly appreciated!



Well, you have a great PowerBook.  It will run a lot nicer with more 
memory.  512Mb will make it quite a bit more responsive.




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New to list with questions on Pismo

[cleo553]

Hi all,

I just joined this list with the hopes of learning more about upgrading 
my G3 PowerBook.  It's 400 MHz and has FireWire ports, so I'm assuming 
it's the Pismo FireWire model (if that's not correct, please tell me!)


It currently has 64MB of memory, which I'd like to increase as 
inexpensively as possible.  I'd also like to upgrade it to OS X.  My 
questions are:


--Can I upgrade it to OS X?  Which version is the best for this model?  
Do I need to do anything besides add more memory in order to do this?


--What is the minimum amount of memory I can get away with and still 
run OS X.  My computer needs are pretty basic: cruising the Web, email, 
basic word processing, etc.  I was thinking of adding a 256MB module, 
which I saw for $28.67 at macsolutionsinc.com.  I'm a little unclear as 
to how this works though.  I know there are two slots.  Can I keep the 
existing 64MB memory chip and add the 256MB module as well to bring it 
up to 320MB?  I'd love to add two 512MB modules to bring it up to 1 GB 
of memory, but I can't afford the $200.00 that would require right now.


--I have AirPort installed in this machine.  Does it work with the 
newer wireless technology?  For example, could I go into Starbucks and 
hook into their network using this model?


--Can I use an iPod mini with this computer?  Since I do have the 
FireWire port, I'm thinking that I could if I'm able to upgrade to OS X 
and install iTunes on my computer.


Also, is there any way to access the archives of previous messages on 
the list?


Thanks for any tips or advice--it's greatly appreciated!

Karin


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Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

[Michael Cangelosi]

If the boot files of the HD are corrupted but the HD still works you
could boot from CD or network then look at your pic files.

Michael. 

-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bellerose
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:25 AM
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

Running this command it stops after

BSD diskOS9, major114, minor 78 and then does not let me continue the
prompt is a white box that does not let me go on.

Is there a way to get my pictures off the hard disk, all my baby's
pictures are on there

THanks, Kevin
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> > It is OS 10.39 Is verbose c-o-p-r?
>
> CMD-OPT-P-R is PRAM reset.
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> CMD-V is verbose IIRC.
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Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

[Kevin Bellerose]

Running this command it stops after

BSD diskOS9, major114, minor 78 and then does not let me continue the prompt
is a white box that does not let me go on.

Is there a way to get my pictures off the hard disk, all my baby's pictures
are on there

THanks, Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Malcolm Cornelius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!


> > It is OS 10.39 Is verbose c-o-p-r?
>
> CMD-OPT-P-R is PRAM reset.
>
> CMD-V is verbose IIRC.
>
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Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> It is OS 10.39 Is verbose c-o-p-r?

CMD-OPT-P-R is PRAM reset.

CMD-V is verbose IIRC.

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Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

[Kevin Bellerose]

It is OS 10.39 Is verbose c-o-p-r?

Thanks for your help.

Kevin
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From: "Lisa & Tom P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G-Books" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!


> >Stuck @ spinning gear at start up will spin forever, I reset NVRAM no
help
> >Did command-s it stopped before it competed the check and did not make it
to
> >the prompt. I the last 2 succeful boots  one soon had video problems
white
> >lines through the text and loss of icons in task bar, clicking on blank
bar
> >and icon picture came back. It also came up with message " .You must
> >restart computer." Seems ominous... I am typing from an old windows
box
> >to try to get some help. Pismo is G4 500 upgrade/ 1 gig of ram/ 60 gig
> >toshiba drive and 8x superdrive!
> >
> >Any help wpu;d be greatly appreciated!
> >
> >Thanks, Kevin
>
> is this under OS X?  If so, can you boot in verbose mode and find out
> where is has trouble ?
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Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

[Geoffrey Loeffler]

Does your hard drive have a partition for OS9 ? or a firewire drive  
or the removable 10 Gig hard drives that goes into the expansion bays?
I had those problems about 10.2,.4 OS 9.2.2 ran perfect, even using  
Photoshop and a graphics intense game anything I could throw at it.


When trying to start OS X, all the stuff you mentioned are the same  
symptoms I had, so I called Apple 6 weeks later, free support off the  
10.2 purchase for one of the 3 Pismos and the first guy was not  
slurping his soda and sounded pretty on the know. He said that OS X  
requires the video chip on it's startup and 8 megs is just barely  
enough, he said I might have a weak video chip. Now as far as I know  
chips work or do not work. I was a bit skeptic I hate code. So he  
said for $350.00 that included shipping they would swap out a M.B.  
and you would get a new/used video chip. I went for it and OS X  
10.2.4 ran fine but I had to use OS9 for 2 months and found Os 9's  
lack of quirkiness a cool glass of ice tea. It just ran fine and  
until Panther came out I just used 9. So the weak video chip covered  
the whole M.B. and any possibilities.


I also would be of course skeptical of the upgrade first. I am typing  
on my Pismo right now, great books. I think the best Apple ever  
turned out. So far they can't get me to bite on a new one. I have a  
few iBooks 1.2 but I have lugged this pismo everywhere

Good luck
Geoff


On Jul 12, 2005, at 6:31 , Kevin Bellerose wrote:

Stuck @ spinning gear at start up will spin forever, I reset NVRAM  
no help
Did command-s it stopped before it competed the check and did not  
make it to
the prompt. I the last 2 succeful boots  one soon had video  
problems white
lines through the text and loss of icons in task bar, clicking on  
blank bar
and icon picture came back. It also came up with message " .You  
must
restart computer." Seems ominous... I am typing from an old  
windows box

to try to get some help. Pismo is G4 500 upgrade/ 1 gig of ram/ 60 gig
toshiba drive and 8x superdrive!

Any help wpu;d be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Kevin


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Re: Pismo problems help needed ASAP!

[Lisa & Tom P]

Stuck @ spinning gear at start up will spin forever, I reset NVRAM no help
Did command-s it stopped before it competed the check and did not make it to
the prompt. I the last 2 succeful boots  one soon had video problems white
lines through the text and loss of icons in task bar, clicking on blank bar
and icon picture came back. It also came up with message " .You must
restart computer." Seems ominous... I am typing from an old windows box
to try to get some help. Pismo is G4 500 upgrade/ 1 gig of ram/ 60 gig
toshiba drive and 8x superdrive!

Any help wpu;d be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Kevin


is this under OS X?  If so, can you boot in verbose mode and find out 
where is has trouble ?


Mad Dog

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