[LegacyUG] source template for obituary collection?

2009-10-25 Thread Dede Holden
If anyone has used the United States Obituary Collection on Ancestry, I'd
like to know which Source Template you used.

Thanks for any help and advice.  I'd like to get this right to begin with
and not have to re-do, since I already have enough of that on my plate!

Dede Holden


Re: [LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates

2009-10-08 Thread Dede Holden
Bruce and Leo,

This is what I was trying to avoid.  I have chosen to show only city,
county, state in the burial location. (Because that's what the
Tutorials taught, and I always wanted to be the teacher's pet!)  I may
have to change, but that will require that I figure out how to use
Dennis' wonderful Ltools, which I've purchased, but haven't taken time
to learn.

Leo's report is a good one, but it just gives the lat/long of the
Burial places NOT the Cemetery addresses.

I'll mull this over a little longer and decide which task I want to
undertake - changing all my burial locations to include the cemetery
name or manually going through the address list to see which ones need
lat/long info.

Thanks for your input.  I did learn a little from both of you about
customizing reports, so this was not a totally wasted effort.

Always looking for the positive!
Dede

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is what I do.
 - I put the cemetery name in the Location field instead of the Event Addresses
 - Since most of my ancestors are buried in one very large cemetery, I
 have created multiple Locations, one for each section of the cemetery
 (guess I am a location splitter)
 - So my locations look like this:
 - USA, Utah, Salt Lake, Salt Lake City Cemetery (E.8.1) (Sort name
 Utah, SLC Cemetery (E.8.1))
 - USA, Utah, Salt Lake, Salt Lake City Cemetery (Park.36.2)
 To get a list of all cemeteries (and those in these cemeteries) I do
 the following:
 - Tag each desired cemetery location
 - In the Location Report I select Only Tagged Locations under
 Include and Include Latitude  Longitude under Options
 For those locations without a Lat/Log (or not correct):
 - In the Master Location List, I find the correct site on the map and
 right click to set the Lat/Long
 Then I can create a map of the cemetery and where my ancestors are
 located in it.  I can also click on any (cemetery) location and the
 map moves to place that location in the center of the screen.

 Probably not what you are looking for, but it is another way of
 approaching the issue.  This is what I do.



 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I know the answer to this, but I want to be sure I'm not
 missing something.

 Does anyone know of a way to print a report that shows Event Addresses
 and their map coordinates?  I'm particularly interested in the
 cemeteries listed in my database.

 I'd like to know which ones I already have and which ones I need to
 find and enter.

 I can't find an option to print this info anywhere.

 I've looked at three different places and can't find a way to do this.

 1. Search - Detailed Search

 2. View - Master Lists - Address Lists - Events

 3. Reports - Event Reports - doesn't even include burials, since it's
 not considered an Event.

 I've printed my event address list as mailing labels, but the only way
 I can find to get the Lat/Long info is to open each address from the
 list and see if the info is there or not.

 If anyone sees a way that I've missed, I'd love to hear from you.  If
 you know for a fact that it can't be done, let me know that also.

 I've searched the archives, and it seems that I'm going to have to
 create a Cemetery event for each individual, then include the lat/long
 for each location.  Seems a little redundant since that info is
 already included in the Burial field, but if that's what I have to do,
 I'll just dig in and get started.  I was only going to do that for the
 large cemeteries where the coordinates are different for different
 graves.  Most of my cemeteries are very small, rural cemeteries and
 one set of coordinates works for everyone buried there.

 Thanks for any help/ideas.

 Dede Holden



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[LegacyUG] how to print Event Address Coordinates

2009-10-07 Thread Dede Holden
I think I know the answer to this, but I want to be sure I'm not
missing something.

Does anyone know of a way to print a report that shows Event Addresses
and their map coordinates?  I'm particularly interested in the
cemeteries listed in my database.

I'd like to know which ones I already have and which ones I need to
find and enter.

I can't find an option to print this info anywhere.

I've looked at three different places and can't find a way to do this.

1. Search - Detailed Search

2. View - Master Lists - Address Lists - Events

3. Reports - Event Reports - doesn't even include burials, since it's
not considered an Event.

I've printed my event address list as mailing labels, but the only way
I can find to get the Lat/Long info is to open each address from the
list and see if the info is there or not.

If anyone sees a way that I've missed, I'd love to hear from you.  If
you know for a fact that it can't be done, let me know that also.

I've searched the archives, and it seems that I'm going to have to
create a Cemetery event for each individual, then include the lat/long
for each location.  Seems a little redundant since that info is
already included in the Burial field, but if that's what I have to do,
I'll just dig in and get started.  I was only going to do that for the
large cemeteries where the coordinates are different for different
graves.  Most of my cemeteries are very small, rural cemeteries and
one set of coordinates works for everyone buried there.

Thanks for any help/ideas.

Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

2009-09-16 Thread Dede Holden
Paula,

I primarily use the Family Group Report.  I've found that this helps
me to see how my Events and Sources will appear in other reports.  The
other reports I use the most are the Ancestor Report and the
Descendant Report, depending on who's asking for information.

I'm still in Search and Source mode for most of my lines, so I
haven't tackled the bigger Book Reports yet.

I use the Pedigree Report for my files, just to keep a handle on who
fits where in the tree, since I'm working on my family as well as my
husband's.

I've certainly learned that I tend to make things more complex than
they need to be and I'm trying to work on that.  That's why I'm
willing to learn from the long-time pros in the LUG!

Dede

P.S.  My 24 year old son's favorite is the Ancestor Fan Chart, from
Legacy Charting.  He didn't really care about genealogy until I
printed his for the first time.  It was an AHA moment for him!

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Dede,
 Which reports do you use the most?
 Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas



 - Original Message 
 From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:56:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

 Alan,

 I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census
 event but instead use an event for each Census?   I use the default
 Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each
 particular census.

 I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text
 field.  Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the
 details, the reports became very cumbersome.  So now I handle the
 census like Michele does.

 Event = Census
 Description = US Federal
 Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is)
 Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA

 The Notes look like this:
 living at 735 Thomas St.
 Harry Thompson, head, owns home, value $4800, no radio, age 48,
 married at age 32, born in Miss., father born in Miss., mother born in
 Texas, conductor for steam railroad
 Ione Thompson, wife, age 40, married at at 24, born in Miss., parents
 born in Miss.
 Ethel E. Whitehead, sister-in-law, female, age 37, widowed, born in
 Miss., parents born in Miss., employed as saleslady at 5 and 10 store.
 Nora L. Whitehead, niece, age 17, single, born in Miss., parents born in Miss.

 In the reports it reads, He appeared on the US Federal census in 1930
 living at 735 Thomas St

 As far as the Source citation goes, I have used the Sourcewriter
 template and I have a census source for each year, state, and county.
 I name them like this:

 Census: 1930 US Mississippi Warren

 It helps me to find them more quickly when I am citing the Master Source.

 I also use the Census event for every person listed in the household.
 It is very easy to copy the event to the clipboard on the Event
 screen, and then paste to the others.  It even pastes the Source, so
 you enter the info once and then with just a few clicks the event is
 added to everyone involved.

 As far as the details go, if it is out of the ordinary, such as an
 adult who can't read or write, I will note that, but otherwise I
 assume they can read and write.

 I also attach a PDF of the census image as a multimedia file to the
 source detail, but I do not add any detail text or comments.

 I'm interested in this thread, because if anyone has a better way that
 produces the kind of reports I want, I'm always willing to learn.

 Dede




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Re: [LegacyUG] Birth certificate as a master source

2009-09-16 Thread Dede Holden
Boyd,

In the Source Detail entry screen there is a place for ID of person.

I guess I'm more of a lumper when it comes to birth certificates,
since most of mine are issued in the state of Miss.  Legacy seems to
lean toward lumping birth certificates, since the ID for each person
is at the Detail level.  However, even though you are citing each
birth certificate as a Master Source, you can still enter the ID of
the person at the Detail level for that Master Source.

Does that make sense?

Dede Holden

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote:
 I treat each birth, marriage and death certificate as a master source
 because information from each certificate relates to a number of different
 people.  A birth certificate can give father's and mothers full names, ages
 (hence approximate birth date), occupations and birthplaces, parents
 marriage date and place, and birth informant.  Other certificates similarly
 have data on several people apart from the certificate subject person(s).

 I am trying to cite a birth certificate issued in Scotland. The template for
 a birth certificate comes from Birth recordsBirth certificateAll
 countries except.Created at state/provincial levelbasic format (Most
 other options within this certificate string get you to a similar set of
 fields)

 There does not appear to be a field to record whose birth the certificate
 relates to.

 If I use this master source to, for instance, source the parent's marriage
 place or the father's occupation, there is no way in the printed out source
 list that comes from this template, to tell which certificate the
 information was taken from. I can title the document in the Source List Name
 to uniquely identify it, but that does not print out in the reports.

 The same issue relates to citing marriage and death certificates - there
 does not appear to be a field to record the name of the principal player.
 These templates are thus of no use at all, or am I missing something?  Do I
 have to go back to the Basic source format and use the Title field to get a
 source that tells me whose birth is being recorded?

 How does anybody else cite a birth certificate?

 Boyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] An apparent bug?

2009-09-13 Thread Dede Holden
Jon,

I was able to duplicate the problem just as you described.  I've not
had occasion to use I, because I don't have any II's in my
database.  It would be frustrating to me, since this is a suffix, and
not a given name or surname.  You can choose to have Legacy ignore the
message for this particular individual.  The message I received
indicates Name Suffix then goes on to say Given Name or
Surname

I'm sure this is not a big problem that the programmers will put high
up on the list of things to fix, but I did want you to know that it is
a Legacy issue and not a particular problem with your individual
database.

Dede Holden

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:50 PM, jraymond...@aol.com wrote:

 Rich,
 I've already done that.  But the  question remains...Why does this message
 appear?  The message is clearly  wrong as the given name and surname
 absolutely have more than one letter in each  field.  Can someone else 
 duplicate
 this issue?

 Jon



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering US Census Information

2009-09-11 Thread Dede Holden
Alan,

I'm not quite sure what you meant by you don't use the default Census
event but instead use an event for each Census?   I use the default
Census event, but the description, date, and place tailor it to each
particular census.

I started out putting the census details in the Source Detail Text
field.  Then I realized every time I cited the census, and printed the
details, the reports became very cumbersome.  So now I handle the
census like Michele does.

Event = Census
Description = US Federal
Date = 1930 (I am not as detailed here as Michele is)
Location = Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi, USA

The Notes look like this:
living at 735 Thomas St.
Harry Thompson, head, owns home, value $4800, no radio, age 48,
married at age 32, born in Miss., father born in Miss., mother born in
Texas, conductor for steam railroad
Ione Thompson, wife, age 40, married at at 24, born in Miss., parents
born in Miss.
Ethel E. Whitehead, sister-in-law, female, age 37, widowed, born in
Miss., parents born in Miss., employed as saleslady at 5 and 10 store.
Nora L. Whitehead, niece, age 17, single, born in Miss., parents born in Miss.

In the reports it reads, He appeared on the US Federal census in 1930
living at 735 Thomas St

As far as the Source citation goes, I have used the Sourcewriter
template and I have a census source for each year, state, and county.
I name them like this:

Census: 1930 US Mississippi Warren

It helps me to find them more quickly when I am citing the Master Source.

I also use the Census event for every person listed in the household.
It is very easy to copy the event to the clipboard on the Event
screen, and then paste to the others.  It even pastes the Source, so
you enter the info once and then with just a few clicks the event is
added to everyone involved.

As far as the details go, if it is out of the ordinary, such as an
adult who can't read or write, I will note that, but otherwise I
assume they can read and write.

I also attach a PDF of the census image as a multimedia file to the
source detail, but I do not add any detail text or comments.

I'm interested in this thread, because if anyone has a better way that
produces the kind of reports I want, I'm always willing to learn.

Dede

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Alan Jones a...@ajsquared.us wrote:

 Michele,

 Interesting so you don't use the default Census event but instead use an 
 event for each Census?  I had not thought about that.  I guess that works 
 better with the sentence structure and wording?

 I see for what I assume is your notes section you list each family member 
 that was on the Census.  So do you put that same event in for each person so 
 that in your first example the exact same event (notes and all) for B.F. 
 Graham, Sarah Ann, Archibald, Sarah E, Isabella, and William?  I figure you 
 would so that a report for any one person would show everything and one knows 
 who the Head of House Hold was etc.

 I also noted that you did not put down unable to read or write for the kids.  
 I got a kick out of finding my Grandfather on a Census entry and it saying 
 could not read or write when i knew he could then i realized he was 3 at the 
 time of the Census.

 I truly appreciate the details you provided they give some good examples.

 How do others handle this?

 thanks again Michele


 Alan



 Michele Lewis wrote:

 Here is what I do...
 Event:  1870 United Stated Federal Census
 Description: population schedule
 Date: 31 Jul 1870
 Place: , Marion County, Mississippi, USA

 B.F. Graham, age 35, male, white, farmer, value of real state $50, born in 
 MS, unable to read or write
 Sarah Ann Graham, age 30, female, white, wife, born in MS, unable to read or 
 write
 Archibald Graham, age 6, male, white, at home, born in MS
 Sarah E. Graham, age 5, female, white, at home, born in MS
 Isabella Graham, age 1, female, white, at home, born in MS
 William Graham, age 9/12, male, white, at home, born in MS, born in Sep

 Here is one from 1900 for you...
 Event: 1900 United States Federal Census
 Description: population schedule
 Date: 11 Jun 1900
 Place: , Marion County, Mississippi, USA

 James E. Simmons, head, white male, born Feb 1870, age 30, married 11 years, 
 farmer, born in MS, both parents born in MS, can read/write/speak English, 
 owns home free and clear, farm, #81 on farm schedule
 Corine E. Simmons, wife, white female, born Oct 1870, age 29, married 11 
 years,  mother of 7 children, 6 living, born in MS, both parents born in MS, 
 can read/speak English, unable to write
 Francis A. Simmons, daughter, white female, born Jul 1890, age 9, single, 
 born in MS, both parents born in MS
 Mary Simmons, daughter, white female, born Oct 1891, age 8, single, born in 
 MS, both parents born in MS, did not attend school this year, unable to read 
 or write, speaks English
 Jesse Simmons, son, white male, born Apr 1894, age 6, single, born in MS, 
 both parents born in MS
 Walter Simmons, son, white male, born Mar 1896, 

[LegacyUG] adding Military even bug?

2009-08-23 Thread Dede Holden
I have installed the latest update of Legacy 7 Deluxe (7.0.0.107).  This
morning when I tried to add a Military event, I encountered the following
problem:  Once I type Military, then tab to enter the rest of the fields,
the other fields disappear!  Only the Notes section remains.  Can anyone
else duplicate this?  I did a File Repair, etc., but this did not solve the
problem.  If someone else can duplicate this, I'll report it as a bug.

Dede Holden


Re: [LegacyUG] adding Military even bug?

2009-08-23 Thread Dede Holden
Ron and Dennis,

Please forgive my original post in rich text - it was quite early and
I forget to check that sometimes.  My plain text and rich text look
exactly the same when I am typing, so it's hard for me to tell the
difference.

As I stated in my original post, I am using Legacy 7 Deluxe, and I
have installed the latest update (7.0.0.107).

Here is the problem, step by step:

From Family View, click on the Individual.  In the Individual screen,
Events/Facts section, click Add.  For Event, enter Military.  Once I
select Military, then click Tab to move to the Description, all the
fields except Event Name disappear.

Other events that I have tried (Census, Obituary, etc.)   work
properly when I try to add them, showing Event, Description, Date, and
Place.

Thanks for your help.

Dede Holden


On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Dennis M. Kowallekkowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 Ron:

 Pardon me for replying to you, but the OP did not post in plain text.

 The OP should check the Event definition to see if she has Show
 Description, Show Date, and Show Place unchecked.

 --

 Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
 http://zippersoftware.com/ltools
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools

 ***

 On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:31:40 +0100, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
 wrote:


Dede,

What version are you using please?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Location

2009-08-19 Thread Dede Holden
Ruth,

Quick reply before I go to work - I just checked and cannot duplicate
this problem.  I do have the latest update 7.0.0.103 and I am using
Windows XP.  I recall another thread that mentions a problem similar
to this just recently, (may still be a current thread) and I think it
was associated with Vista.  You might check the most recent archives
to see what was said.

Dede Holden

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Ruth Nerud baber...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

 What's happened to the Location Master List? It's not in alpha order and if I 
 try to add or change a location I get an Error Msg 3019 (not found in Online 
 Troubleshooting Help) and Legacy closes down. If I click on Show List, I get 
 nothing. If I click Close, it locks up. Urgh!

 Ruth A. Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist vs. GedStar Pro

2009-08-16 Thread Dede Holden
John,

How does this work with Legacy?  Any trouble syncing between the two?

Dede Holden

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM, John Brockman
john.w.brock...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been using GedStar Pro on a Palm Treo for the past several months. It 
 works great, especially for research trips when I don't want to take a 
 laptop. And it's always with me, so I can look up information any time, any 
 place. Very handy when I go to my cousin's house and she starts asking me 
 about our family tree.

 John Brockman

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just read Bring your Legacy file with you on the Legacy News page.

 Does anyone in the group have experience with Pocket Genealogist or GedStar 
 Pro?  I have a Palm ES2, but I am contemplating the purchase of a new 
 cellphone with the thought of reducing my gadgets so that I just have one 
 mobile device.

 Is there anyone on the group using either one of these programs on a 
 cellphone?  If so, which one, and how well does it work with Legacy?  I 
 would like to be able to carry my information with me and be able to easily 
 sync with my desktop computer when I return home.

 I understand that Pocket Genealogist may be the best, but I'm restricted to 
 ATT as my carrier, but I'm not so sure about the quality of the Windows 
 mobile based cellphones.

 Or - would it be better for me to keep my Legacy on GedStar Pro on my Palm 
 and have a separate cellphone?

 I hope this will be considered on topic, since my whole purpose is being 
 able to carry Legacy with me in the field.  Any advice?

 Thanks in advance,
 Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Remove Italics

2009-08-13 Thread Dede Holden
Good morning, Barb,

You've simply indicated that the person's sex is unknown.  Once you
select the M or F button on the Individual's screen, all should be
well.

Dede

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Barbara bschwart...@twcny.rr.com wrote:

 Hello Legacy Users,  Somehow I touched the wrong key and now have a name in 
 italics.  How do I remove the italics so the name reads in regular print?  I 
 have Legacy Deluxe.  Thanks  Barb



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Re: [LegacyUG] Batch enter event

2009-08-13 Thread Dede Holden
I agree with Jenny.  The Event Clipboard is a great tool.  It even
copies the Source Citation with one click.  That's how I would
proceed.

Dede

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jenny M Bensonge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 1familytree wrote

 I searched the archive but could not find a reference to batch creation of
 an event for a selection of individuals
 (I.e. create an event called tombstone for all persons tagged #9,  date
 = after death date (take death sort date and change prefix 00 to 40 and
 update burial sort date ) place = Cemetery name.

 I thought I remembered seeing a request like this before but I couldn't
 find it in the archives.

 Any help to accomplish this would be greatly appreciated.

 I think the best you can do would be to create a search list of all the
 people you wanted, create the Event for one of them and then use the Event
 Clipboard to copy and paste (with amendment where necessary) to everyone
 else in the search list.
 --
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[LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist vs. GedStar Pro

2009-08-11 Thread Dede Holden
I've just read Bring your Legacy file with you on the Legacy News page.

Does anyone in the group have experience with Pocket Genealogist or GedStar
Pro?  I have a Palm ES2, but I am contemplating the purchase of a new
cellphone with the thought of reducing my gadgets so that I just have one
mobile device.

Is there anyone on the group using either one of these programs on a
cellphone?  If so, which one, and how well does it work with Legacy?  I
would like to be able to carry my information with me and be able to easily
sync with my desktop computer when I return home.

I understand that Pocket Genealogist may be the best, but I'm restricted to
ATT as my carrier, but I'm not so sure about the quality of the Windows
mobile based cellphones.

Or - would it be better for me to keep my Legacy on GedStar Pro on my Palm
and have a separate cellphone?

I hope this will be considered on topic, since my whole purpose is being
able to carry Legacy with me in the field.  Any advice?

Thanks in advance,
Dede Holden


[LegacyUG] User ID field

2009-07-28 Thread Dede Holden
I've searched the archives and can't find that this has been addressed.

I have just updated to the version 7.0.0.100.  Now I've realized that
I have to choose between seeing the User ID and the RIN on the Family
View.  What?   I use both of these fields for two separate numbers,
not related, and can't understand why that option is no longer
available.  I'm thinking it was probably because the Temple and
FamilySearch info has been updated/added, but I'm a little distressed
at this new development.

Any chance that Legacy will rethink this and give us back the option
of seeing both of these numbers?

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[LegacyUG] user ID vs RIN update

2009-07-28 Thread Dede Holden
This is a little strange.  After my last post, I went back to Legacy
and played with these Options some more.  Now my User ID field is back
on the Family View, even though I have selected only RINs.  Is this a
qwirk that comes from the new update and once you go in and play with
it, the User ID field returns?  Anybody else?  I know it wasn't there
at first because I was going to enter a User ID number and there was
no place to enter it until I changed the options.

I hope someone can validate my sanity.  I have been working too many
hours lately and may need a rest!

Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] User ID field

2009-07-28 Thread Dede Holden
I've figured it out.  The RIN displays by the name and the User ID is
the bottom field I've chosen, just below Birth, Baptism, Death, and
Burial.  Don't quite know why it disappeared after the update was
installed, but all is well now.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:32 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote:

 Graham,

 That is the only way which I recollect being able to display both RIN and 
 UserID at the same timw.



 Ron Ferguson

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 From: love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] User ID field
 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:18:48 +0100

 How quickly we possibly forget but I don't recall being able to see both on
 Family View unless you had customised labels. However you can still have
 customised labels to show UserID and the RIN/MRIN still shows at the bottom
 of the screen. On the Individual's screen you can choose UserID in the
 bottom left field and of course the RIN shows at the top of the window. Did
 you have it configured differently?
 Graham

 -Original Message-
 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Dede Holden
 Sent: 28 July 2009 11:27
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] User ID field

 I've searched the archives and can't find that this has been addressed.

 I have just updated to the version 7.0.0.100. Now I've realized that
 I have to choose between seeing the User ID and the RIN on the Family
 View. What? I use both of these fields for two separate numbers,
 not related, and can't understand why that option is no longer
 available. I'm thinking it was probably because the Temple and
 FamilySearch info has been updated/added, but I'm a little distressed
 at this new development.

 Any chance that Legacy will rethink this and give us back the option
 of seeing both of these numbers?

 Dede Holden

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Re: [LegacyUG] Surity Level Reports

2009-07-10 Thread Dede Holden
Ross,

I took this on as a challenge.  I searched everywhere in the program
and could not find this as an option anywhere.  It would be good to be
able to search this way, but I can't come up with one using only the
Legacy program.  I'm sure our friends who are proficient in Access
could figure out a way, but I'm not at that level.

Sorry I couldn't help, but I wanted you to know that I tried.

Dede Holden

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Could be one of those custom reports (searchprint)?  Or maybe an option on 
 the Source Citations report to filter on surety level?  --P

 --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Ross Chapman ross.chap...@rogers.com wrote:

 
  I seem to remember that there was a
  report out there for all
  sources that have a surety level of 2 or less. Am I
  mistaken or can I just not
  find the report I am looking for?
 
 
 
  Ross Chapman
 
  Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
  ross.chap...@rogers.com




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Re: [LegacyUG] Repository of Photos and other items

2009-07-09 Thread Dede Holden
Cathy,

To answer the first part of your question, I do have a repository
Personal Possession of the Author.  I use this for any original
document, book, etc., that I actually own and possess.

To answer the second part, I just did a quick test on one of my
citations of a book that is in the local library.  I have a copy of
the page that I am citing.  I entered a Comment in the Source Detail,
copy of this page in the author's possession.  When I ran the
report, I chose End notes, but I unclicked the option to combine
multiple citations into one paragraph. The comment appeared in both
instances of the citation.   If I were you, this is what I would do.

Dede Holden

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:27 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:

 I have two examples on my thinking. Over the years I have made photocopies 0f 
 the US Census in at least 2 NARA, over a dozen libraries/repositories, 
 (including Ancestry and LDS). I decided to use the NARA in Washington DC for 
 all.
 Anything I created (photos, etc.), I am also the repository. All books I own 
 are the same.
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net wrote:

  From: Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Repository of Photos and other items
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
  Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 7:52 PM
  I want the end notes to reflect that
  I have copies of Vital Record Documents (i.e. Birth
  Certificate), books that I own which I am citing as a
  source, photos of grave markers that I am citing as a
  source, etc.  The rationale is so the reader knows I
  have the actual document and also that they can obtain a
  copy from me as well as from the original repository.
 
  For some, I am the only repository (i.e. a photo of a grave
  marker).  In this case I am considering listing me as
  the repository.  Does anyone have an opinion or
  suggestion?
 
  For others, a library or government agency is the actual
  repository plus I have a copy.  However, I can't use 2
  repositories.  Does anyone have an idea for where to
  note that I have a copy?  I tried putting it in the
  Comments box for the source and checking to print it on
  reports every time, but the Comment Box information only
  prints the first instance and not the second time it is
  listed in the end notes so it looks like I don't have a copy
  of any document citing the second entry even though it's the
  exact same source entry.
 
  I hope this isn't too confusing.
 
  Does anyone else note in the source citation that they have
  a copy of the document or book in their possession?
 
  Cathy Vallevieni
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Re: [LegacyUG] Linking files in Picture Gallery

2009-07-08 Thread Dede Holden
Ron,

Are you adding them as pictures under Source Detail (or even as the
Master Source)?  And when you add them, are you adding them as
Pictures or Files?  And, are they saved as jpg or tiff or some other
picture file, OR are they saved as pdf or doc files?  I've just
recently had to redo several links, because they were pdf files that I
accidentally added as pictures, rather than files.

You might want to run this report - Options, Customize, Locations,
Test All Multimedia paths.  This will give you a report of any missing
links.  You can then check each file individually to determine why you
are not able to see them.

Hope this helps.

Dede Holden

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ron And June Weeks
rdwe...@alphalink.com.au wrote:

 Hi,
 I have created many links to census pages in the picture gallery using 
 'files'.  When clicking on these links, it displays the information in 
 Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, so far, so good.  What I then did was to run 
 msconfig to find out why my computer was taking so long to boot up.  I 
 disabled all the startup items that I thought was unnecessary for what I 
 needed.
 Then going back into Legacy, I found the link to my census pages were 
 disabled, so I re-enabled all the start-up items.
 I still cannot view the census pages!!
 Can knowledgeable person advise me so I can couple them back up? Please.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts

2009-06-14 Thread Dede Holden
Veronica,

I have been working on the same thing for my husband, as we are having
a family get together which will include the descendants of both sets
of his grandparents.  I ended up printing two separate descendant
charts, one for each set of grandparents.  I couldn't come up with a
way to include both.  If someone else has an idea, I'd like to hear
it, too.

Dede Holden

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Veronica Manalvo
ronnie_...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I'm a relatively new user of Legacy Family Tree v7.0 and I have a query in 
 regards to charting. What I am trying to do essentially is create a standard 
 descendant chart but with two groups of descendants merged on the one chart - 
 that is, I am trying to get the descendants of both of my grandparents on the 
 same chart, where the common link is the marriage of my parents. I can create 
 the separate charts for each set of my grandparents easily enough but I can't 
 seem to combine them together, by copying/pasting or otherwise.

 Does anyone have any tips on how I can achieve this, or if it is even 
 achievable in Legacy Charting v7.0?

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more

2009-06-12 Thread Dede Holden
Paula,

You might have a look at Report Options, on the Sources tab.  Sometimes I've
had a problem when I've accidentally clicked If an event has multiple
citations, combine them into one paragraph.

Dede Holden

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote:


 Before you try to duplicate, check out my corrected description.

 I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages.

 The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about
 how I set this up in the first place...).
 This is a SW source:  Cemetery records  Grave markers,etc.  Online
 images.
 The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field.

 Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that.
 Thanks,
 --Paula


 --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote:

 
  Paula,
 
  Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output
  is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the
  repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors
  etc.) I'll have a look.
 
  Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository?
 
 
  Ron Ferguson
 
 






Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Unable to copy scanned documents into Legacy events or Notes

2009-05-09 Thread Dede Holden
Bill,

I've been following this thread with interest.  I must say I agree
with Janis.  Transcribing the documents, even just the essential
parts, has helped me more than once to put some pieces of the puzzle
together that I might not have seen if I were simply scanning and
saving.

Just my FWIW.  (for what it's worth)

Dede Holden

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Bill,

 You should consider the possibility that the exercise of transcribing, and 
 then abstracting, the document(s) would be beneficial in a number of ways. I 
 always find that I learn so much in the process of transcribing. I see things 
 that I didn’t notice before, and somehow I just absorb the document in a more 
 meaningful way. I do have OCR software, and I do not use it (for genealogy) 
 at all.

 Do a Google search for genealogical transcription and abstraction guidelines, 
 for method. The NGS and BCG sites offer help on this subject.

 In brief:

 Preserve original spelling. You can insert your corrections in parenthesis, 
 if required for clarification.
 There are divided opinions about line breaks, but I prefer to break each line 
 where it breaks in the original document, unless it is so lengthy that the 
 line breaks become absurdly cumbersome.
 The transcription should carry your name, contact address (at least email), 
 and the date.
 The transcription should carry a source citation.
 If it is a deed, it should carry the date that the deed was drawn, the date 
 that it was proven or acknowledged (or the dower examined), and the date of 
 filing or recording.
 Consistency is the key, but some people use italics for anything not in the 
 body of the document, and regular type face for the transcription material.
 If it is a printed form, which has been filled in by pen, you may choose to 
 distinguish the printed portions from the penned portions by underlining the 
 latter, or using two different fonts.

 Sometimes there is no quick fix – and sometimes, the quick fix isn’t really a 
 fix. Just take a deep breath, and begin to read and understand your documents.

 Sorry if this seems pedantic – it is genuinely not my intent. Just trying to 
 pass along what it has taken me many years to learn (and am still learning). 
 It’s late, I’m tired, and I have probably left out some very important stuff. 
 That’s where the Google search comes in. g

 Good luck with the project. Lovely to have too many documents!

 Janis Walker Gilmore

 On 5/8/09 3:42 PM, Bill Rhodes wlrho...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks to all who responded to my request for help and advice. I have 
 spent the last day or so checking them all out.
  To Ward  Carl - no, OCR is not included in my Scanner which is an Epson 
 Perfection  4490. To JLB, the docs I want to copy are way to long to do a 
 split screen and type. That is what I am trying to avoid. And to Dennis, I 
 have scanned as jpg. and saved to file but cannot do a cp - not possible, 
 and I do not want to insert an image into Legacy.To John R., I checked out 
 IrisPro v.10 and it looks very good, but as you say it is spendy - way too 
 much for my budget. To Grover O.  Gene Y. - I downloaded the Free OCR and it 
 is easy to use and it works. The only drawback is that (at least with old 
 copies of old docs) it comes up with some strange words  symbols which 
 require a lot of correcting and cleaning up, but I may be able to live with 
 it. To Dennis K. the Abbyyusa frexpress at $50 for the download version looks 
 good. My question is, will it or any of the other for sale OCR's do a better 
 job than the FreeOCR, or do they all work the same and
 produce innaccurate copies that have to be cleaned up? If Abbyy frexpress 
 produces fairly clean  accurate copies it might be worth the $50. I would be 
 interested in hearing your comments or suggestions.
 Thanks again for eveyone's help - really great!!

 Bill Rhodes


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 I have somehow lost my original email and the replies to it, but I was told 
 by someone that to get scanned docs into Legacy I need Optical Reader 
 software (which makes sense) and that I could find free ones for download. 
 After a lot of searching on Google I was never able to find completely free 
 software - free usually becomes free trial period or donation required, 
 etc. I finally ordered SIMPLE OCR - the free version with an obligatory $25 
 donation. After downloading  installing - it does not work! I called them 
 and they do not support the free version. After some discussion they agreed 
 to refund the $25. So I am back to square one. I really do not want to 
 re-type all these records if there is a better way. I would welcome and all 
 any further ideas or suggestions. How do the rest of you folks do it?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Clipboard

2009-03-29 Thread Dede Holden
Ruth,

I just checked this.  You can do it from the name list.  Click on the
sources tab.  Highlight the source you want to copy and click the icon just
below the sources field to copy it to the clipboard.  Then highlight the new
event you want to add this source to.  Click on the blue horizontal line at
the top left of the Name List box.

Dede

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Ruth Nerud baber...@worldnet.att.netwrote:

 When I am in the Name List and click on the Sources tab, there is an icon
 at the bottom right to Copy to Clipboard. I highlight one of my Sources,
 click on the icon, move to another field, say for instance, Burial, I
 thought I could paste the Source I copied to the clipboard, but it won't let
 me do it. Does this feature not work?

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[LegacyUG] source formatting on Family Group Report

2009-03-21 Thread Dede Holden
I have a question regarding source formatting on the Family Group
Report.  I'm using the Sourcewriter Family Group Sheet-Privately Held
template.  I have source detail and a comment on the detail.  Why is
there a semi-colon inserted at the beginning of the detail text and
the beginning of the comment text? There is already a semi-colon at
the end of the source citation. (I'm not real sure about this
semi-colon, either.)

If I skip a line at the beginning of the detail, the semi-colon
appears on a line by itself.  If I don't skip a line, a line is
skipped in the report anyway, and another semi-colon appears at the
beginning of the detail.

I know that one of the solutions is to use the Basic Source writer,
but the Sourcewriter feature is one of the reasons I am a Legacy user.
 I am a relative newbie when it comes to citing sources and there
are so many options that I don't want to have to stop and plow through
EE every time I cite a new kind of source.  I also don't want to use
the override feature, unless that is my only option.  But I don't
think I should have to use the override, as this is not an unusual
source citation.

It seems to me that this might be a small bug.  Can anyone else
duplicate this?  If not, I'll completely delete the source and
re-enter it to see what happens.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: [LegacyUG] source formatting on Family Group Report

2009-03-21 Thread Dede Holden
Connie,

I am getting two semi-colons in a row, one after the citation, and
then another one before the detail.  I have determined that I am
getting two because I have not put any information in the Comments
section of the template.  If this is the way this template is going to
produce, I will have to find a work around, too.  Anybody got any
ideas?

Thanks, Connie, for your willingness to help.

Dede

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dede Holden wrote:

 I have a question regarding source formatting on the Family
 Group
 Report.  I'm using the Sourcewriter Family Group
 Sheet-Privately Held
 template.  I have source detail and a comment on the
 detail.  Why is
 there a semi-colon inserted at the beginning of the detail
 text and
 the beginning of the comment text? There is already a
 semi-colon at
 the end of the source citation. (I'm not real sure
 about this
 semi-colon, either.)

 Dede,

 There are many templates in which Legacy inserts punctuation for you.  Yes, 
 it inserts a semi-colon before the detail text or comments, probably based 
 upon a slightly inaccurate reading of the Family Group Sheet model in 
 Evidence Explained, p. 108.  Or are you saying you are getting two 
 semi-colons in a row?  (I'm only getting one).

 I myself do not use this template, and am still searching for a usable 
 replacement that does not require an override, for another reason.  The EE 
 model on p. 108 is clearly based upon a Collection, not an individual FGS.  
 The template assumes that the author/compiler of the group sheet and the 
 current owner are one and the same person.  It does not allow me to indicate 
 that Jane Doe compiled/authored a group sheet in 1994 that Sam Smith owns in 
 2009.

 If anyone has found a workable solution for this problem (without using the 
 Basic Source system or an override), please let me know!!!

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[LegacyUG] merging and restoring temporary backup questions

2009-03-19 Thread Dede Holden
I need help!  I have just done a simple manual merge of two individuals.  I
did a backup, not to my flash drive, but just the temporary backup.  I
remember some recent conversation about this type vs. the zipped backups.
Once I completed the merge, I printed an individual report to be sure all
the information is there.  I got very interesting results.  There are
sources listed on the report that DO NOT appear on the individual's list of
sources.  That's when I realized that when you perform a merge, you need to
check ALL the tabs, not just the first screen. (Just a word of warning to
those who might make the same mistake I have made!)

Now, for the question.  I've found the backup.  It's a .usr file.  But when
I try to restore the family file, it will only allow me to look for files
with a .zip extension.  What do I need to do?  I don't want to go back to
the full backup I did last night, because I've done quite a bit of work this
morning.  I can add the sources to the individual if I have to, but I'm
thinking this backup should work.  Any advice will be appreciated.

Dede Holden


[LegacyUG] Re: merging and restoring temporary backup questions

2009-03-19 Thread Dede Holden
Never mind.  I just realized that the sources are coming from the
father's information, not the individual that I merged.  I've also
realized that the temporary merge backup is only good as long as you
don't close Legacy.  That means you don't perform a restore, you
just undo the merge.

If this is not exactly right, I hope someone will let me know.  It is
a little misleading, if you're not familiar with the difference in the
two kinds of backups.

Lesson learned...when performing a merge - check ALL the tabs in the
Merge window, not just the first one.  If anyone else has merge/backup
advice, I'd like to hear about it.

Dede

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need help!  I have just done a simple manual merge of two individuals.  I 
 did a backup, not to my flash drive, but just the temporary backup.  I 
 remember some recent conversation about this type vs. the zipped backups.  
 Once I completed the merge, I printed an individual report to be sure all the 
 information is there.  I got very interesting results.  There are sources 
 listed on the report that DO NOT appear on the individual's list of sources.  
 That's when I realized that when you perform a merge, you need to check ALL 
 the tabs, not just the first screen. (Just a word of warning to those who 
 might make the same mistake I have made!)

 Now, for the question.  I've found the backup.  It's a .usr file.  But when I 
 try to restore the family file, it will only allow me to look for files with 
 a .zip extension.  What do I need to do?  I don't want to go back to the full 
 backup I did last night, because I've done quite a bit of work this morning.  
 I can add the sources to the individual if I have to, but I'm thinking this 
 backup should work.  Any advice will be appreciated.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Run Time Error 5

2009-03-11 Thread Dede Holden
Dave,

I have already sent in the bug report on this.  We discussed it a few
days earlier, as others have confirmed the same problem.

Hope this helps,
Dede Holden

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this Run Time Error '5' Run
 Time Procedure Call or Argument since the latest update to Legacy 7.0.0.89?

 This occurs when adding a new Source with the SourceWriter.  All you have to
 do is add a w in the Url field.  This error occurs and after clicking OK,
 Legacy shuts down.  I have had to resort to putting the url in Notepad and
 coping it into the Url field in Legacy.  That works.  But you cannot start
 typing www. Or you get this error.

 Dave



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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Dede Holden
Vicki,

I have used these Family Trees from Ancestry.  I use the Family Group
Sheet template in Source Writer.  If the author's name is given, I
will use it.  If not, I use the Ancestry user name that is posted with
the Family Tree.  I choose to use online images since that is where
they are, even though they're not scanned images, such as census
pages.

I also put in a comment explaining why I've used this family tree,
even if there are no sources.  The last one I used included some of
the same family pictures that I have in my collection, so even though
I don't know the author, I'm reasonably certain that our families are
related!

Hope this helps,
Dede Holden

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:16 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:

 Since I use Ancestry.com as the repository of the record creator, and in the 
 Source fields use both names, I would list it as an authorless document, the 
 same way I treat Newspaper clippings with no date or paper name. But of the 
 about 20 I had at one time, I mhave located 18 of them.
 Rich in LA CA


 --- On Sun, 3/8/09, v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com
 To: Legacy Email List LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:14 PM
 I found what Ancestry.com calls a Family Tree on
 their website.  It isn't really a family tree but a
 short list of related people.


 I looked in the archives and see that many people suggest
 putting Ancestry.com as a repository and the collections
 found on Ancestry (such as WWI Draft Registrations, etc) as
 the source.

 But what about something less straight forward, like the
 family tree I found on Ancestry?

 How would I source this?  No author is listed, nor contact
 information, it is simply a short list of related people
 under the title  Smith Family Tree.


 In the Add a New Source, Source Writer's
 family tree and family group sheet options do not offer me a
 choice of medium other than Online Images and
 Privately Held.  Since the list is not really
 what would be considered an online image (such as a census
 page image would be) and the list is not privately held, how
 would I source this list of related persons that Ancestry
 calls a family tree?

 Any ideas?


 Vicki



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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-09 Thread Dede Holden
Thanks to all - there are some good ideas here.

But now it's Monday and back to work, so I'll have to try this when I
can squeeze in time during the week.

Judy, I like your idea.  I'll try it to see what happens.  Jane, I
thought of tagging, as you suggested, I was just wondering if there
was an easier way. Rich, if Judy's idea doesn't work like I want it
to, I'll certainly consider the User ID setup, although that seems
like a little more than I want to bite off, unless there's an easy way
to mass assign UIDs?

As soon as I have time to try these ideas, I'll report back and let
you know what works best for me.  It seems that this is something that
others might be interested in also.

Thanks again to all!

Dede in springtime Mississippi!

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:54 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:

 I haven't tried it, but have you considered setting up a User ID system. You 
 could use Jnsn001-Jnsn999, Smth001... Then they will sort in the  individual 
 index, and reports can only UID, or mixed with RIN. Good luck,
 Rich in LA CA


 --- On Sun, 3/8/09, JCTripp jctr...@charter.net wrote:

 From: JCTripp jctr...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:46 PM
 Dede,

 I don't have the Missing Sources search in ver 6, so I
 am just imagining
 here, but could you tag those individuals from your search
 results and then
 use the Index view to customize columns to show minimal
 info but include
 tag # you selected from the Missing search and spouse MRIN,
 and parent's
 MRIN etc.
 If you don't get too greedy, you can narrow column
 widths to see all in one
 screen width. Of course, you'll have to use page down.
 When you find an
 individual with both tag  MRIN number, select Family
 View, add your
 sources, and untag that individual.
 Please note that I am replying with this convoluted work
 around because
 although I have tagged individuals, I haven't read
 about or tagged
 marriages.
 Seems you should be able to tag all marriages with any
 individual that has
 the tag # given by your initial Missing sources search and
 use that list.
 Regards, Jane Tripp

 - Original Message -
 From: Dede Holden
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources


 I'm going to guess that what I want is not available.
 I want to sort by
 MRIN, not RIN.  I have husbands and wives that are not even
 close
 to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put
 them together.
 The number option button sorts by RIN.

 I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a
 systematic way to work
 through those with no sources.

 Thanks anyway,
 Dede



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[LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-08 Thread Dede Holden
I need advice.

My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who
don't have ANY source.  Yes, I confess.  In the past  I added names
and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better
job of sourcing as I add.  However, I still have quite a few
(hundreds) who don't have any source.

I've looked at the Missing Sources report.  Here's my dilemma.  The
report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't
have a last name.  Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work
on the whole family at one time, going down the list?

Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can
see at a glance who needs work?

Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources?  What is the best
systematic way to accomplish this task?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Dede Holden



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[LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

2009-03-08 Thread Dede Holden
I believe there is a bug in some of the Sourcewriter templates in the
newest update.  I've already submitted a bug report, but I wanted to
save all of you the worry if this happens to you.

For some reason, when you are entering the specifics in Step 2 of the
templates, you will get a Runtime Error '5': Invalid procedure call
or argument.  The two specific templates I've had a problem with are
the Artifacts template and the 1900 census template.  When you click
OK, Legacy closes.

I can reproduce the error, so I've submitted a bug report.  The Family
record template worked fine, so I don't think it's a problem specific
to my computer.  BTW, running Windows XP on an HP laptop.

If someone else tries this and gets a different result will you let me know?

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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-08 Thread Dede Holden
So, back to my original question --

Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN?

That would help to work on one family at a time.

Thanks,
Dede

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:

 We are still finding new stuff.

 Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.

 Carolyn


   I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
 myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
 always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
 through.
   Rich in LA CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-08 Thread Dede Holden
I'm going to guess that what I want is not available.  I want to sort
by MRIN, not RIN.  I have husbands and wives that are not even close
to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them
together.  The number option button sorts by RIN.

I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work
through those with no sources.

Thanks anyway,
Dede

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:
 Your Search List is a Name List like the Index.  As in the Index, Click the
 #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box
 to the right of each button.

 Carolyn

 - Original Message -

 From: Dede Holden
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
 So, back to my original question --

 Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN?

 That would help to work on one family at a time.

 Thanks,
 Dede

 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:

 We are still finding new stuff.

 Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.

 Carolyn


 I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
 myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
 always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
 through.
 Rich in LA CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re Pedigree chart of Direct Line Ancestors

2009-03-06 Thread Dede Holden
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Chy Maen chym...@start.ca wrote:

 /This question is similar to Diane's

 I'd like to print out a simple Pedigree line of Direct Line Ancestors
 (grandparents, no siblings etc.) -- the same sort of chart that appears on
 screen when one hits pedigree on the task bar.  I did a trial run at this
 several times but when it comes to preview that mini-printer on the
 preview screen flies out what looks like hundreds of pieces of paper and
 after waiting a full five minutes the last time it was till tossing out
 pages and not 'complete  Compared to some of your DB's mine is
 miniscule (only a bit over 20,000 folks) and not all direct line
 grandparents of course, tho some lines are back to the 700's (I know many of
 you are way past that too).

 So I wondered if anyone might tell me how to do this - horizontally, not
 vertically (have done those okay) using ordinary 8 1/2 x 11  paper (glue it
 all together later)
 Somewhere while reading tips I saw and now can't find instructions for a
 circular pedigree chart which was suggested as a good way of finding those
 straight line ancestors whose lines are shorter than the rest thus need
 working on - made sense but I thought the straight horizontal line Pedigree
 might show the same and I wanted to do this for my grandson (get him
 interested in history!) - and also for me to just be able to visualize
 things better.

 Thank you for any assisance.
 Kate

 To answer the last part of your question about the circular pedigree
 chart...

Across the top menu in Legacy, choose Reports, then scroll down to Legacy
Charting.  This will open the Legacy Charting program.  Choose the Full Fan
report.  I love this report for showing where the holes are.  I've printed
the pages, and taped them together to hang over my filing cabinet, so I can
quickly see at a glance where my research ends.  I do love the color coding,
so I can tell which line I'm seeing.

Hope this helps.

Dede Holden


Re: [LegacyUG] Re Pedigree chart of Direct Line Ancestors

2009-03-06 Thread Dede Holden
One more thought - my 23 year old son was never interested much in genealogy
until he saw the fan chart.  Maybe this is just what you need to pique your
grandson's interest.

Dede Holden

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Chy Maen chym...@start.ca wrote:

  /This question is similar to Diane's

 I'd like to print out a simple Pedigree line of Direct Line Ancestors
 (grandparents, no siblings etc.) -- the same sort of chart that appears on
 screen when one hits pedigree on the task bar.  I did a trial run at this
 several times but when it comes to preview that mini-printer on the
 preview screen flies out what looks like hundreds of pieces of paper and
 after waiting a full five minutes the last time it was till tossing out
 pages and not 'complete  Compared to some of your DB's mine is
 miniscule (only a bit over 20,000 folks) and not all direct line
 grandparents of course, tho some lines are back to the 700's (I know many of
 you are way past that too).

 So I wondered if anyone might tell me how to do this - horizontally, not
 vertically (have done those okay) using ordinary 8 1/2 x 11  paper (glue it
 all together later)
 Somewhere while reading tips I saw and now can't find instructions for a
 circular pedigree chart which was suggested as a good way of finding those
 straight line ancestors whose lines are shorter than the rest thus need
 working on - made sense but I thought the straight horizontal line Pedigree
 might show the same and I wanted to do this for my grandson (get him
 interested in history!) - and also for me to just be able to visualize
 things better.

 Thank you for any assisance.
 Kate

 To answer the last part of your question about the circular pedigree
 chart...

 Across the top menu in Legacy, choose Reports, then scroll down to Legacy
 Charting.  This will open the Legacy Charting program.  Choose the Full Fan
 report.  I love this report for showing where the holes are.  I've printed
 the pages, and taped them together to hang over my filing cabinet, so I can
 quickly see at a glance where my research ends.  I do love the color coding,
 so I can tell which line I'm seeing.

 Hope this helps.

 Dede Holden



Re: [LegacyUG] CIRCULAR PEDIGREE CHARTS

2009-03-06 Thread Dede Holden
Mary,

Since they are in Legacy Charting, I think that is correct.

Dede Holden

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Mary Searles searle...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 Are the circular pedigree charts only in Legacy 7?    Mary



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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages - Tracking Individuals

2009-02-15 Thread Dede Holden
Jenny,

Making a To-Do category for unconnected people is a great idea! There
are several people I am almost sure belong to my family, but I'm not
quite sure how they are related.  Keeping their names in a To-Do list
category will help me to find them all in one place quickly.  Thanks
for this great application of the To-Do list.

Dede Holden



On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 Judy wrote

 I, too, track individuals through census pages, and would appreciate
 knowing how others keep track of other people, who at one time may not be
 recognized as related, but after further work, end up being so.

 When I create a Census Event I put the details of each individual in the
 Description, but in the Notes I mention the complete household, for example
 The household comprised Joe Bloggs 531, his wife Fanny Adams 604, their son
 Joseph Bloggs 883 and boarder Jane Doe.

 Because my family file is not huge (3,000) and I am frequently reviewing
 the main people of interest I find that is sufficient for me to find these
 other people if they crop up again in another context. I also have a pretty
 good memory for names in my file!  However, I appreciate that this is rather
 a casual approach and would not suit someone who has an enormous file or a
 great many other people

 A few times in the past on LUG, people have mentioned the wish for Legacy to
 include a General Notes field, separate from the Notes attached to each
 Individual, where one could enter information relating to the whole file.
  Such a facility would be useful for recording the names of other people
 who may prove to be of interest.  But it occurs to me that one could also
 create a To Do, putting something like Other People in Task needing to be
 done and just add the names to the Task Description as one comes across
 them.  If one inserted each name in alphabetical order, it would not be too
 difficult to check this list whenever a new connection was found.
 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days

2009-02-14 Thread Dede Holden
To all on this Dropbox thread:

I am watching this topic for two reasons:  I am interested in Dropbox
and I am also contemplating a new computer.  Right now I am using XP
and I know if I buy a new computer, it will have Vista.

I am wondering if Jim's problem might have to do with the fact that he
is running XP on one computer and Vista on the other?

Is anyone else using Dropbox in this scenario and, if so, how is it working?

Dede Holden

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:47 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 I found this problem, when on my old Windows 3.1 CPU, if I left it running 
 overnight, and decided my mainframe got confused after too much 
 'calculating', meaning too many big reports without logging off/restarting so 
 I got used to turning it off every night, and have continued with my laptop 
 for no reason. I was told way back, that computers each have a finite number 
 of times to turn on and off before they die. I am backed up, if I need to buy 
 a new one (hope I am not infuriating any gremlins).
 Rich in LA CA

 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Erin Bradshaw eb_pa...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:32 AM
 I am using Legacy v. 7.0.0.81 and DropBox on Windows XP (on
 desktop and laptop).  I have never encountered error 91.  I
 have delayed updating to .86 because I thought I noticed
 that err. 91 started then (I may be wrong).  But since I was
 not having that problem decided to stay with tried and true.
 Also I have no media in my Legacy program yet.

 Erin

 - Original Message - From: DimJim
 dimji...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days


 Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked
 100% for me.
 The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP
  1 VISTA
 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx.
 From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox.
 It was
 immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my
 VISTA machine.
 Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 -
 Error
 opening data base
 Run-time error '91':
 Object variable or With block variable not set
 It then closes the Legacy program.
 This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy.
 Then it
 will open almost normally.  This behavior happens no
 whether I open
 Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or
 if I try
 to start Legacy from the start program.
 This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it
 doesn't make
 any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then
 immediately
 opened on the same machine or the other machine.
 One other strange thing ~ if I set the Options
  Customize 
 Starting File  to Always Prompt for Starting Family
 File and then
 save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the
 .fdb file
 in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under
 Options 
 Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family
 File
 Automatically.
 Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other
 problem before
 using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my
 flash
 driver forth and back between the two machines.
 Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might
 shed
 additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time
 error 91 issue.



 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore
 rajan...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox
 discussion, as it
  pertains to the Legacy data file.
 
  Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my
 Legacy file on my
  laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the
 reverse. No copying to a
  thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not
 even the trouble of
  moving a file, via the home network, from one machine
 to the other. Just
  seamless, effortless synchronization.
 
  Ditto for media files.
 
  Janis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Stop Messages about DropBox - Warning from LUG Administrator

2009-02-14 Thread Dede Holden
Jim,

I am deeply sorry.  I have just posted a message to the thread BEFORE
I read this warning.  Please do not remove me from the list.  My inbox
lists messages in most recently received order so I didn't get to
this one before I got another one about the forbidden topic.

Dede Holden

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Support/Jim Terry
jimte...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 This is a request from the LUG administrator that all messages about the
 program DropBox stop immediately. This program is not a Legacy add-on and we
 are getting complaints about the on-going message thread.

 The purpose of the LUG is to provide a forum for mutual help and the
 friendly exchange of ideas related to the use of Legacy Family Tree and its
 add-on programs, only. Please keep on topic.

 Any further messages about DropBox will result in the offender being removed
 without warning from the LegacyUserGroup. The excuse I didn't see
 administer warning is not a valid reason for leaving you on the subscribers
 list.

 Please see http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp if you have
 questions about LUG policy.

 Thank you for choosing Legacy,

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Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-14 Thread Dede Holden
I don't consider myself a professional either, but I like to keep a
copy on my computer as a PDF file because I can have several of them
open at the same time.  On Ancestry, loading and viewing digital
images can be painfully slow.  The PDF's pop up quickly.  I have
discovered other family connections based on other people listed on
the same census pages, so going back to the actual document has been a
great plus for me in my research.  Of course, I now have an external
hard drive, because these files take up so much space, but it's worth
it to me.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about this, too.

Dede Holden

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:31 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 I don't consider myself a professional (never got paid), but I would say it 
 is a personal choice, with factors being size of your equipment, the 
 maintenance cost of same, and what you plan to do when finally finished.
 Rich in LA CA


 --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Dave Johnson davel...@gmail.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:11 PM
 For the past couple of months, I have been documenting the
 history of my
 family using the Census in the US, Ireland, Scotland,
 England, etc.  I have
 used the SourceWriter to document each entry.

 For many of my earlier entries and a few of my later
 entries, I have gone
 back to the census and scrolled to the appropriate page and
 found the data
 quickly.  This tells me that my source details pass the
 test of
 findability.

 Now I am wondering if it is worth the effort to make a
 digital copy of each
 census record to include with each reference to the census
 document in
 Resident, Occupation, Emigration, and Religion Events.

 How would you professionals answer this query?

 Dave



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Re: Still Confused... RE: [LegacyUG] Abbreviation/Symbol Definition - +

2009-02-09 Thread Dede Holden
Jim,

I see what you're talking about.  I agree with JL.  It means that
there is more than one relationship.  I have a cousin who is married
to someone who is also her fourth cousin and her fifth cousin. (She's
only married to one man - we just have ancestors who married cousins
more than once!)  There is a plus beside the relationship indicated in
the Family View.

Dede Holden

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

 Certainly appreciate your answer, but I could thick and missing something.
 I understand your technical explanation as to upwards and downwards
 direction relationships and the use of the + and - symbols outside of
 Legacy.


 Actually I think I was wrong and I apologise for any confusion I may have
 caused.  I shouldn't post late at night when I haven't bothered to check
 things.

 I was thinking that I had read about the + and - symbols indicating
 direction of relationships, but in fact Legacy indicates a downwards
 cousinship by putting an asterisk after the relationship and there is no
 symbol on an upwards cousinship.


 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: Still Confused... RE: [LegacyUG] Abbreviation/Symbol Definition - +

2009-02-08 Thread Dede Holden
Jim,

See Help Index - Symbols.

What do the Little Symbols Mean?

You may notice some symbols on the Family View at the ends of some of
the names.  Here is what they mean:
A + at the end of a parent names means that person has parents.
There is at least one more generation of ancestors on that line.
A + at the end of a child name means that person has children.
There is at least one more generation of descendants on that line.

There are more symbols described, but I only included the part about
the + sign, since that's what you asked about.

Does this make sense with what you're seeing?

Dede Holden



On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Jim Smith jsmit...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 Jenny,

 Certainly appreciate your answer, but I could thick and missing something.
 I understand your technical explanation as to upwards and downwards
 direction relationships and the use of the + and - symbols outside of
 Legacy.

 My current Legacy Family screens only show the + in the relationship areas
 to the wife, Rose, and her son, Joe. My problem is, if that is the case,
 translated as a symbol in Legacy, it should then show also on the John's,
 the husband's relationship area.  According to your explanation then both
 John and Rose relationship description should be exactly the same as both
 are offspring of siblings, 1st cousins who married.  I have re-set the
 relationship calculation a number of times and keep coming up with the same
 results - John = 1st cousin 3 removed and Rose = 1st cousin 3 times removed
 +.

 Thanks for your help.

 Jim

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 From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
 Of Jenny M Benson
 Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:03 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Abbreviation/Symbol Definition - +


 Jim Smith wrote:
  Afternoon,
 
  I am trying to understand the meaning of the + abbreviation/symbol in
  the
  following relationship labeling.
 
  The relationships are to me:
 
  1. Husband, John - My 1st cousin 3 times removed.
  2. Wife, Rose - My 1st cousin 3 times removed +.
  3. Their son, Joe - My 2nd cousin twice removed +.
 
  The given parameters are:
 
  1. John's father, Joe, is my gg-granduncle.
  2. Rose's mother, Lois, is my gg-grandaunt.
  3. Joe and Lois are brother and sister.
  4. Their father is may ggg-grandfather.
 
  What does the + provided by the Legacy Relationship Calculator mean?
 
 It means that the removed is in an upwards direction - ie the direct
 cousin relationships are in previous generations to you.  By the same
 token, your 1st cousin's child, being a generation below you, would be
 your 1st cousin once removed -
 --
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[LegacyUG] Intellishare question

2009-02-01 Thread Dede Holden
My husband has heard me talk about his family history long enough and now he
wants to get in on the action.  Yay!  We have separate computers so I
decided that the Intellishare option would work for us.

I have read the Help Center article and understand what I'm supposed to do
when he sends me the file AFTER he's made changes.

I exported my family file to a Legacy file and saved it under a different
name.  I e-mailed the file to him.  When we tried to open it through Legacy
on his computer, it did not work.  It had the .fdb extension.  Luckily we're
in the same house, so I could copy the file to a jump drive and move it to
his computer.  But I'm wondering, what happens when the person you're
sharing with is in another state and e-mail is the only way to transmit the
files back and forth?

Does anybody have any ideas or experience with this?  The only problem that
I can think of is the possibility that the file name I used for the e-mailed
version (send to rick.fdb) was not a good name.  When I exported to my jump
drive, I used a one word file name.  Could that explain the problem?

Dede Holden


Re: [LegacyUG] Intellishare question

2009-02-01 Thread Dede Holden
Gary,

That is very interesting.  I was using gmail.  In fact, I sent it to
myself, via gmail, so I could open it on his computer.  I'll try
again, using an alternate email address and see what happens.  I want
to get this figured out, because my brother wants to start sharing
our family file also and he lives in another town.  Thanks for the
reply.

Mike, thanks also for your reply.  Since the Help files are a little
vague about how you should send the file, I decided to use Export.
It's good to know that copy works just as well.

Dede



On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Gary Templeman gtemplem...@comcast.net wrote:

 Dede,

 I notice you are using Gmail, and I assume your husband is also. I have had a 
 recent problem with a friend, where PDF files sent to his Gmail account are 
 not able to be opened, but the same file sent to his two alternate accounts 
 go through fine. When we look at the attachment sizes they are different. We 
 have tried 3-4 tests with different PDF files and all have the same problem. 
 He suspects something is happening at Gmail that corrupts certain attachments.

 Gary Templeman

 - Original Message - From: Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com
 To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:36 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Intellishare question


 My husband has heard me talk about his family history long enough and now he
 wants to get in on the action.  Yay!  We have separate computers so I
 decided that the Intellishare option would work for us.

 I have read the Help Center article and understand what I'm supposed to do
 when he sends me the file AFTER he's made changes.

 I exported my family file to a Legacy file and saved it under a different
 name.  I e-mailed the file to him.  When we tried to open it through Legacy
 on his computer, it did not work.  It had the .fdb extension.  Luckily we're
 in the same house, so I could copy the file to a jump drive and move it to
 his computer.  But I'm wondering, what happens when the person you're
 sharing with is in another state and e-mail is the only way to transmit the
 files back and forth?

 Does anybody have any ideas or experience with this?  The only problem that
 I can think of is the possibility that the file name I used for the e-mailed
 version (send to rick.fdb) was not a good name.  When I exported to my jump
 drive, I used a one word file name.  Could that explain the problem?

 Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Addresses in Legacy 7

2009-02-01 Thread Dede Holden
Michael,
Look at Reports, Books/Other, Address Labels.  I guess you could print
the labels on regular paper to use an address book, but if you're
doing a mailout, the labels are the perfect thing.  Be sure you look
at all the tabs on the Address Label report.  You have lots of
options.

Dede Holden

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Michael L. Thomas
genealo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Since I have taken the time to enter as much information as I know and that
 includes Addresses, Phones, and Email, is there a way the create an address
 book or contact book and have it used to send out information and the like?



 Thank you



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Re: [LegacyUG] Tips screen?

2009-01-11 Thread Dede Holden
Hello John,
Click on View-Tips Window, then click the bottom box, show this
Welcome screen...

Dede

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Gen Searcher gensearc...@sky.com wrote:
 Hello List
 Can sks point me to where I can turn on the tips screen at start-up
 I cannot find it
 John



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Re: [LegacyUG] blank pages in reports

2009-01-11 Thread Dede Holden
Elizabeth,

Take a look at this:
Reports - Books/Other - Ancestor, then click on the tab that says Page
Layout.  If you have checked the option to start on an odd page
number, this may be causing the blank pages.  Not sure this is your
problem, just a thought.

Welcome to gmail!  I've been using it for quite awhile and it is
really an efficient way to store/search e-mail.

Dede

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Elizabeth roobee...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I have tried to make an Ancestor book for someone and the sources were
 showing on a second following page.  I then changed the option to show them
 all at the end of the document and now the preview pane shows the same
 number of pages, each second page (following a generation) is now blank.  I
 think this may have been aired before but I can't find an answer in the
 archive.

 Incidentally, I have followed recent advice and this is using my
 newly-created gmail account! - I am not new to the group.

 Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Rel. Calc. and Back-up

2009-01-04 Thread Dede Holden
Gene,

I am only responding to your second observation about backups.  The
latest updates to Legacy 7 have included the backup date as part of
the file name to be backed up.  I am very happy about this update,
because I was saving my backups by date anyway.  This change has saved
me much time, since I backup my files after every session.  Of course,
you will have to delete older backups to make room for the newer ones.
 I've always wanted my last two or three backups, at least, just in
case I find something I need to go back several days to fix.  This may
be overkill, but I also alternate my backups between two jump drives,
just in case one of them fails for some reason.  I have a pretty
recent backup on both of my jump drives.  (I also use Mozy.  I'd
rather be safe than sorry.  Lesson learned the hard way.)

Dede Holden

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Gene Hutson fish...@cableone.net wrote:
 Hi All,

Anyone else notice these two problems or am I the only
 lucky one to be plagued??

If I bring up the Relationship Calculator with myself in the right side
 window and I try to bring my own mother up instead, I hit the swap
 button and it will cycle for an hour only to come up and say that she
 is in fact my mom.

In previous versions when you went to back up your data at the end
 of a session, it would tell you that whatever file already existed, do
 you want to over-write it?? Now it just keeps adding all these back-up
 files instead of over-writing them. I hadn't noticed it until I saw my
 available space on my hard drive slowly diminishing. After looking in
 Data I found like 24 different backed up files. After deleting all but
 the most recent, my available space once again jumped like 5 percentage
 points.

Just thought someone ought to know.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Use for USER ID numbers

2009-01-04 Thread Dede Holden
Allison,

What a great idea!  I've just learned the value of the Find a Grave
number, as that is the info needed to make relationship links in Find
a Grave.  This is a good way to track your work, particularly if
you're not using the User ID field for anything else (and I was not.)

Dede Holden


On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Allison Nelson allison...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just realized I could put that extra USER ID field to good use.  When I 
 post info for someone to findagrave.com I put the Find A Grave Memorial # in 
 the User ID field.

 I set the fields showing on my main screen to:
 Birth Date  Place
 Death Date  Place
 Burial Date  Place
 Names Alternate 1
 User ID

 This way I can see at a glance whether the person has been entered at Find a 
 Grave or not.

 Allison



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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I???

2009-01-02 Thread Dede Holden
Don,
I hope I understand your question correctly.  When you open the window
to add the burial address, there is a button to the left that say
Address List.  If you click on this it will give you the names of
all the addresses you've added for events.  Is this what you're
looking for?

Dede Holden

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Donald Sherry deshe...@usa.net wrote:

 Starting at the Individual Information Screen, then into the  Buried in 
 window, then into the burial Address window.

 I have two separate entries for the same cemetery - but associated with 
 different individuals.  I want to combine them into one - just like I can in 
 the View - Master Lists  - Locations window.

 Any suggestions.

 It seems to me that there should be consistency between these two types of 
 entries.  Especially - there should be a drop down list avaiability to select 
 from previous entries.



 Don Sherry

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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I???

2009-01-02 Thread Dede Holden
I checked one more thing.  In the address window, if you click
Options you have the option to combine duplicates.  This should help
if you've added the same address twice.  I know I've had to use that
feature.

Dede Holden

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Dede Holden deanbuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don,
 I hope I understand your question correctly.  When you open the window
 to add the burial address, there is a button to the left that say
 Address List.  If you click on this it will give you the names of
 all the addresses you've added for events.  Is this what you're
 looking for?

 Dede Holden

 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Donald Sherry deshe...@usa.net wrote:

 Starting at the Individual Information Screen, then into the  Buried in 
 window, then into the burial Address window.

 I have two separate entries for the same cemetery - but associated with 
 different individuals.  I want to combine them into one - just like I can in 
 the View - Master Lists  - Locations window.

 Any suggestions.

 It seems to me that there should be consistency between these two types of 
 entries.  Especially - there should be a drop down list avaiability to 
 select from previous entries.



 Don Sherry

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Re: [LegacyUG] A question about Sourcing

2008-12-22 Thread Dede Holden
Phil,

I concur with Kirsten.  I have several different newspapers as
sources.  In my Master List they are named Newspaper:Jackson Daily
News, etc.  This does indeed help you to quickly see if you already
have a newspaper listed as a Master Source.  I do the same thing with
Books, Letters, Military Records, among others.  I am sure I don't
have as many sources as some on this list, but right now, this system
is working for me.  (By the way, I consider myself to be a splumper,
splitting some sources and lumping others.)

I'd like to hear if someone has a different view and why, especially
if they have a large number of sources.

Dede Holden


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:

 Phil:

 The benefit to having a Master Source is to avoid repetitious typing by
 grouping together several source items that share common information.  You
 could put all of your articles together under one Master Source called
 Newspapers or even use the artifacts or basic source template, but there
 would be very little common information to enter at the Master Source level.
 More typically, each newspaper would be a separate Master Source.  I would
 begin the source list name with newspaper or news followed by the city
 or the newspaper name.  This won't print in the source citation but it will
 group them together in your Master Source List so you can find them easily.

 Kirsten

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 Behalf Of Phil Husband
 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:04 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] A question about Sourcing


 I have a problem, probably a brick wall in my mind, about sourcing.
 Determining and naming a Master Source in particular.

 I have several newspaper articles, some I inherited, some I've downloaded
 from Ancestry.com Historical Newspaper collection.  The articles are from
 several newspapers, in quite a few cities.  I'm using them to keep track of
 when and where a particular family worked and lived in various cities.
 The articles range from 1902 to 1944.  A majority, but not all,  of these
 articles are from personal news columns (gossip columns).  Can someone of
 this group using Legacy suggest one Master Source that I could use? I have
 Evidence Explained at hand, while there are many illustrations, what I need
 is how to name the master source.

 Phil Husband



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[LegacyUG] sourcing an edited work with many authors?

2008-11-13 Thread Dede Holden
I have recently acquired two books with lots of information about
several of my family lines.  These books are Heritage books,
published by Heritage Publishing Consultants in Alabama.  The books
contain many stories, genealogies, and pictures from Alabama.  They
have published one for each county.  The stories are submitted by
different individuals and most of them have referenced the sources
they used.  I want to include the specific submitter as the author of
the material, but I want to use the book as my Master Source.

This will probably turn out to be a lumping vs. splitting question,
but I don't want to get too far into this and have to redo all my
source entries.  Here are my options as I see them so far:

1. Have one master source - the book itself.  Use the page number and
name of the story as the source detail and put the submitter's name in
the comments section with the detail.

2.  Have a master source for each story that I am citing - sort of
like EE 12.64 Edited Works: Citing Chapter Author

I started out using option 1, but now I'm leaning toward option 2
because some of these stories have so much info that it might be
easier to enter the detail, as well as find the master source I want
to use from the list, if the story names are given.  However, I can't
find a source template that really works for this.  I know I can
create my own using the basic source writer, but I do LOVE the
templates!

I value the opinion of this group, since I've learned so much from all
of you.  Let me know what you think.

(BTW - I know these are all secondary sources and not to be trusted,
especially since I've found errors regarding my own gg grandmother, so
I'll do the appropriate verifying.  I just want to get this part
right.)

Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] half siblings

2008-09-01 Thread Dede Holden
If you right click in one of the children's boxes, from Family View,
you'll get a pop-up menu.  Choose View, then Show 1/2 Kids.

Dede

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Karen Thornhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,

 Does anyone know how to make the half siblings show in the Family
 view in Legacy 7?  In Legacy 6 half-siblings showed in the Family
 view if you checked the designated box in the children section.

 In Legacy 7, when you click on the red plus sign to show brothers and
 sisters, the box is there to show half-siblings, but they only show in
 the box you are viewing, not in the Family view.

 What am I not doing? Thanks for your time.

 Karen Thornhill
 researching
 ELDRED TEICHMANN SEELEY REED SISCOE THORNHILL FOSTER UNDERWOOD PFALTZGRAFF










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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Newspapers Online archives (issued by the publisher)

2008-08-17 Thread Dede Holden
If you want to add notes to a repository, you need to click on Edit in the
Repository window, then choose the Notes tab.  Once you enter notes using
the Notes tab, they will then appear in this Notes window when you look at
the repository.

Dede Holden

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Jessica Morgan wrote

 I am adding an obituary source using the Source Writer Template of
 Newspapers  Online Archives (issued by the publisher).

 When in the Repository screen, I cannot type in the Notes field at the
 bottom of the box.

 Is this normal?


 I think it's a bug.
 --
 Jenny M Benson










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Re: [LegacyUG] What happened to the Book marks for the new Source Writer

2008-08-03 Thread Dede Holden
Cathy,
Is the box still shown at the bottom for bookmarked source templates?
Has the entire bookmark box disappeared, or have your bookmarks
disappeared from the box?  Just trying to understand the exact
problem.

Dede Holden

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On this subject, I bookmarked a Source but cannot figure out how to
 retrieve or access it.  I've read the Help manual several times on this
 subject but I'm still lost.  I'm sure I'll feel stupid when someone
 explains, but I appreciate any help.

 Thanks.

 Cathy Vallevieni
 Orange County, CA

  At 12:11 PM 8/2/2008, you wrote:

 Jerry, I'm not sure how to explain it any better.  I open the Source
 writer, decide on the type of source and answer the questions that arise on
 the right till the red Step 2 comes up and it says on the bottom just
 above the window to book mark and I click on that before I click on Step
 2.  Before I up dated the bookmarked sources use to list in the slot below.
  Now nothing appears.



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 From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 4:39:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What happened to the Book marks for the new Source
 Writer

 Barb Weed wrote
 Hi, It use to be that when I went through the new Source Writer and
 created the template, I could ,before clicking on step 2, save the
 template with a bookmark and it would be listed in the box at the
 bottom of the screen.  That does not happen now.  What happened?  Did I
 do something wrong or is it broke? I noticed this after I updated to
 7.055. Does anyone else have this problem? If not how do I fix it?

 You asked about this problem before and I requested that you give us
 more information about the steps you were taking as I was unable to
 reproduce your problem.  As far as I know you did not come back with any
 more information.

 I have just tried again to create Template Bookmarks and again I have
 had no problems doing so.

 Please state *exactly* what you are doing at each stage of the process
 and I will see if you are doing anything differently to what I do and if
 I can replicate your problem.
 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] definite source problem

2008-07-26 Thread Dede Holden
Janis,
Just a quick look at my grandfather's Individual report as well as
Chronology report and here's what I find:  There are sources for my
father that appear on my grandfather's Chronology report, but they are
appropriately cited to my father's events.  The individual report does
not include these sources, since my father is not shown on the report.

I know how frustrating it can be when you can't explain why something
is happening.  Do these erroneous sources appear when you choose
endnotes rather than footnotes?  I've found that these two choices
sometimes produce very different results.

Sorry I can't be more help.
Dede Holden

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I definitely have some sort of sourcing problem going. I would love to know
 if anyone else if having a similar problem.



 I am doing some editing on an individual named John Lawson Clark. I  earlier
 noted that for some reason the 1900 census of his son John C. Clark had
 attached itself to every event for John Lawson Clark. I weeded all of those
 instances out for John Lawson Clark. I also replaced some of the John Lawson
 Clark census entries with newer sources, written with the Source Writer.
 When viewed in the Assigned Sources window for John Lawson Clark, all of
 these sources appear to be in order and proper.



 However, when I run a chronology report or an individual report for John
 Lawson Clark, some sources for John C. Clark appear appended to the reports.
 These sources do NOT appear in the Assigned sources window, but appear
 consistently in the report sources.



 Can anyone shed any light on what is happening here? I am working in Legacy
 7.0. I have backed up the file and run a check/repair. The erroneous sources
 continue to appear in reports.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Previously entered Data not showing up with version 7 ??

2008-07-22 Thread Dede Holden
When this has happened to me in the past, I've found that doing the
standard File Maintenance usually helps to restore everything to its
proper place.

Dede Holden

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:19 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My first guess.
 Go to Name List.Since I know my Name list has 24865,
 and it matches, mine is good.
 How many should be there and how many are there now? I
 know you may not have looked for the total recently,
 but figure out how many people are completely gone.
 Hopefully bits of everyone are there. Have you been
 making anything private? Have you accidently checked
 one or more private checks.
 After confirming that we still need to fix stuff, be
 specific about 3-4 things missing, so we can tell why.
 Example: RIN #246 missing Event: census.
 Check there for privacy stuff.
 I hope this will be resolved easily.
 Rich in LA CA
 --- Deborah K. Millemaci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone else has had this
 problem.  Recently installed version 7 on my
 laptop...and tonight I was editing information and
 it appears that all the information I previously
 entered on my descendants (funeral info, stories,
 etc. is not showing up when I click on a name...this
 is happening with all my names.  Also, all the
 descendants are not showing up that I had previously
 before the update.  Has anyone else encountered this
 problem?? - Deb

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Re: [LegacyUG] Issue with Bibliography - V7

2008-07-13 Thread Dede Holden
Cary,
I do know the kind of problem you're talking about.  I had this same
issue.  Doing the File Maintenance/Check and repair seems to have
cleared it up for me.  I'd be interested to know if it works for you.
My report was hundreds of  pages because of the problem with the
Bibliography.  Now I can print a Descendant Narrative report for the
same ancestor, including the Bibliography that is only 57 pages long.

Dede Holden

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Jay S. Van Zeeland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jay said:

 I know that this isn't much help, but I've run an ancestry report with all
 generations (11,000 people) and had no problem. I, too, have a number of
 sources with the detail text of the document from v.6, but had no problems.

 Could you try to do File Maintenance|Check and repair, perhaps also do a
 Master List clean-up. Perhaps this may help.

Cary said:
 I'm desperate, so I tried to do this, BUT - None of the funky one line pages
 are in the reports or the Source Citations where I could change something.
 ALL of them are in the Bibliography.  That's created by Legacy and there is
 no place for me to delete spaces etc.

 The first instance is in the listing for a web site where the source text
 includes the entire text of several gravestone epitaphs.  Once that hit the
 bottom of a page, each line after that is on a separate page.  Why would a
 bibliography include source text or comments anyway?  The point of a
 bibliography is to be a LIST only.  The paging problem did NOT occur on the
 same source in Source Citations.

 I also noted that the Bibliography continued below the page number and into
 the margin on another page rather than have a page break in that source.  So
 the pagination is off both in NOT making a break in mid notes in one case
 and in breaking after every line in another.  I suspect the base problem is
 including Source text (which is long in some cases) in the Bibliography at
 all.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7

2008-07-10 Thread Dede Holden
Ronald,

This may or may not help, but Ancestry.com gives very good source
information along with the records.  If you like, you can choose
Printer Friendly from the result window, then print the search
result you're going to use, along with the source information.  Having
this in front of you while you work with the various templates may
give you a good idea of which template will produce the best result
for the source you're using.

Dede Holden

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Geoff Rasmussen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ronald,

 Seems like this one would match:

Marriage Records  Found in Governmental Records  Marriage
 Certificate  Country  Created at local/county level  Online image

 If it's just a database, this one always works:

Add a Generic Source Here  Online database

 Thanks,

 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald E
 Howell
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:50 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7

 What Master source, using SourceWriter, would be used for a marriage record
 found on the internet through www.ancestry.com?  I am using the deluxe
 version of Legacy v7. It is not a church record but a State/County record.

 Thanks and I appreciate your help in advance,

 Ronald E Howell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines

2008-07-09 Thread Dede Holden
Sherry,

This thread caused me to take a look at the US County Verifier list.
I have this feature turned on and it has prompted me in the past when
I used a county that was not in existence at the time I used it, but I
have never had occasion just to read the list.

I read the help file to learn how to access this list.  The Help file
states The USA County Verification List can be reached from the
message box reporting a questionable county entry in a location field
or by clicking the USA County Verifier button on the Master Location
List.  (The US County Verifier button is marked with a US Flag.)'

I do not have such a button on my Master Location list.  Is this a new
feature that hasn't been implemented or is it an old feature that has
gone away?  I only have the latest update of Legacy 7 on my computer,
so I cannot go back to a previous version to check this.

Thanks for your help with this,
Dede Holden



On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is a very good feature, but what I am looking for is to be able to have
 an event for each person that, in the event view, will give me the full
 history of a county associated with that person.  TMG had state history
 timelines, but I just want county history ones.  I guess the only way to get
 them is to do them individually for each county that my individuals lived in
 myself and input them as timelines in Legacy.  If I do, then I will probably
 find that they are done somewhere and I have reinvented the wheel.

 Jane Sarles

 Sherry/Support wrote:

 Jane,

 County creation dates for current and historical counties, as well as
 parent counties and ending dates, can be found in the USA County Verifier in
 Legacy.

 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!

 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
  Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Sarles
 Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:12 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines

 Yes, this is reeeally good.  From  it I can construct a timeline for each
 of my counties.  Thanks so much.
 Jane


 Don Varner wrote:


 Try this one.

 http://www.familyhistory101.com/map_county.html

 On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Jane,
 At one time I stumbled across a website that had county creation dates
 and details for each state so I know one is out there- unfortunately I
 didn't save it [sigh]





 - Original Message 
 From: Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 11:03:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines

 I just meant states that had their counties put in a timeline that
 indicates their lineage (if that is the proper word) formed from so and
 so county with year, etc.
 I am looking particularly for VA NC TN and KY.

 I guess, upon reflection, what is want is county timelines for certain
 counties in these states.  My old fuzzy thinking problem again.




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Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do Problem

2008-07-09 Thread Dede Holden
Carol,
I just tried this as you described and I did not have a problem with
the problem locking up.  I did notice that the To-do icon has a small
o beside it.  This means that you have To-Do items that are open.
If all the To-Do items for that individual are closed, then the o
goes away.  It is easy to confuse the letter o with the number zero.

Everything I tried functioned exactly as you described, up to step 5.
When I click on the icon, everything functions as it should.

Since this happens every time you try it, you might want to call
Support.  I just wanted you to have a second opinion.  Sorry I
couldn't help solve this for you.

Dede Holden


On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Bob Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Carol,

 Just tried creating a new to-do item from the individuals screen.  I was able 
 to create it, edit it, and finally delete it without any problems 
 what-so-ever.  It works fine on my machine.  I know this doesn't help you 
 solve your problem but at least you now know that the to-do creation routine 
 in Legacy is working fine.  It would appear that the something is not quite 
 right with your Legacy install or possibly your data file has something in it 
 that is causing the problem (and not being picked up by file maintenance).

 Bob

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried the same on several files and it caused the same failure!  When you
 try to enter a To-Do from the individuals screen, it causes the same
 problem.  Guess the TO-DO function is broken!!!  Usually the support staff
 monitors the e-mail group, but have not received a response from them???
 Also, submitted a bug report, and have not received an acknowledgement
 either???  Guess no one is home???

 Carol


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:32 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do Problem

 Tried to use the TO-DO feature and it locked-up again.  Any suggestions???
 Sent the follow on 2 Jul08, and never received a response.  Also, submitted
 a BUG REPORT???

 Carol


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 Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:09 PM
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 Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do Problem

 Hi,

 Have uncovered a problem that locks-up Legacy which was caused when I made
 a error entering a To-Do item for an Individual's information screen.
 Here's what I did:
 1. Entered a To-Do item from the Individual's Information screen
 2. Forgot to enter a anything in the Task Needing to be Done section, and
 attempted to save the To-Do.
 3. The program warned me of the error, and I then added Text to the Task
 Needing to be Done Section, and saved it.
 4. Then I noticed that the To-Do icon was colored, and indicated 0
 items.
 5. When I clicked on the icon, then Upper menus and Icons at the top of the
 Legacy window when blank, and the program stopped functioning. The only way
 I could shut in down was to reboot the computer.
 6. I ran the Check/Repair but it didn't help.

 Carol



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Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines

2008-07-09 Thread Dede Holden
Sherry,
Thanks for the response.  I finally figured out that I could find this
by clicking on the globe.  I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing
something.

You folks are the best!

Dede

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Sherry/Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dede,

 On the Master Location list is a round globe button.  The US County Verifier
 is there, as well as the Geo Location List and the Distance and Bearing
 Calculator.

 We'll have to get the Help topic  5-216 changed!

 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!

 When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
 Thanks.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines

 Sherry,

 This thread caused me to take a look at the US County Verifier list.
 I have this feature turned on and it has prompted me in the past when
 I used a county that was not in existence at the time I used it, but I
 have never had occasion just to read the list.

 I read the help file to learn how to access this list.  The Help file
 states The USA County Verification List can be reached from the
 message box reporting a questionable county entry in a location field
 or by clicking the USA County Verifier button on the Master Location
 List.  (The US County Verifier button is marked with a US Flag.)'

 I do not have such a button on my Master Location list.  Is this a new
 feature that hasn't been implemented or is it an old feature that has
 gone away?  I only have the latest update of Legacy 7 on my computer,
 so I cannot go back to a previous version to check this.

 Thanks for your help with this,
 Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Web Page Creation

2008-07-08 Thread Dede Holden
This may be an obvious response, but I've had this same problem in the
past.  I did a backup, then went through the file maintenance process.
 It cleared up the problem for me.

Dede Holden

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Bob Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ron,

 Thanks for the reply.  At least I know that the program is generating the
 pages correctly for you.  Now to do some more investigating and try to
 figure out where I may have messed up . . .

 Bob


 ronald ferguson wrote:

 Bob,

 Have just tried InternetCreate Webpages. Selected all defaults and
 Descendant Pages with I person Invisible. Both name and surname indexes
 were there and the invisible person was not present at all.

 It would seem that another setting may be responsible if you are creating
 your pages in this way.


 Ron Ferguson

 _

 Update your British Prime Ministers Timeline - Blogs
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _






 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:01:11 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant Web Page Creation

 I was going to update my family web pages today and ran into a slight
 problem. I am using Legacy 7 Deluxe (latest build - 7.0.0.53) and
 created the web pages (Descendant Style) in my usual way. I checked off
 the boxes to create a surname index and a name list. To my surprise
 both the surname index (surname.htm) and name list (names.htm) were
 blank!!

 After a little investigating I discovered that these pages were blank
 ONLY if I had marked at least one individual as Invisible using the
 new privacy settings in version 7. If I make the individual Not
 Private then the surname index and name list are generated correctly.

 Can anyone else duplicate this apparent problem?? If it can be
 confirmed by someone else I'll submit a bug report - if not then maybe
 something is not quite right with my database . . .

 Thanks for any help.



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Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Reported Bug?

2008-07-08 Thread Dede Holden
Kirsten,
Yesterday when I worked on this, I did have one occurrence of a
citation that repeated in both scenarios - footnotes as well as
endnotes.  It was created before the 7.0.0.53 update, using the
Sourcewriter - Newspaper template.  It looked identical to me, but
just to be sure, I deleted the second citation (burial).  Then I
copied the death event citation to the clipboard and pasted it to the
burial.  That cleared up the multiple citations on the endnote report.
 Is it possible for you to try this for your 1910 census that's
causing you the problem?

Dede

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No trouble, just hope I can help.
 I am on Legacy 7.0.0.53 using Windows XP SP2.
 For my test, I am using a family where I have an obituary for the wife that 
 gives 4 details, so it is sourced (identically) 4 times.
 When I select endnotes, all 4 have the same footnote number which appears 
 just once in the endnotes.
 When I select footnotes, each of the 4 instances have a different footnote 
 number and the obituary appears 4 times in the footnotes.
 I am NOT using the SourceWriter at all for this family.  The source was 
 entered long before I upgraded to V7 and I have not changed it at all.
 When I include Events in the report (2 are sourced by the obituary), I get 6 
 numbers and 6 occurrences of the obituary in the footnotes, but just 1 number 
 and 1 occurrence of the obituary if I check endnotes.
 I have changed a number of the other settings for the report but none of them 
 seemed to make a difference (other than the footnote/endnote selection).
 As you say, there are likely several different bugs, but not just with 
 templates.  The only SourceWriter templates I have used so far are for 
 cemetery markers, and not for this family.
 When you say you use the Descendant Book Report, I assume you are not 
 referring to the Descendant Narrative Book Report, but I get the same results 
 with both reports.
 I hope this adds some light to the situation.
 Anything more I can do to help?

 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bruce:

 Yes it does make sense, but it's not what I see.  Unfortunately I get
 multiples when endnotes are selected.  I hate to trouble you further, but
 I'm using 7.0.0.53 and the SourceWriter template for Census records (US,
 Federal, 1910 population schedule, Online images).  Is that the same as
 you're using?  I suspect there are different bugs associated with different
 templates because other sources don't repeat, only the 1910 US.  Could you
 let me know if we're on the same page?  The Descendant Book Report is the
 one I use most often, and it's completely useless in the format that I'm
 getting now.  Your comparison would be extremely helpful.

 Kirsten


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:31 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Reported Bug?


 It depends on the setting for Sources
 If I select the footnote option for sources, I get multiple occurrences
 (looks like a bug)
 If I select the endnote option for sources, I get just one occurrence (looks
 good)
 I think this is also what Dede found (in both cases).
 Does that make sense?


 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Bruce:

 Thanks for checking this out, but your message has me puzzled.  Are you
 seeing the same results as Dede (one occurrence per citation), and therefore
 *not* a bug, or are you seeing what I do (multiple occurrences of the same
 citation), and therefore a definite bug?  Could you clarify, please?


 Kirsten

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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Reported Bug?



 I get the same results as Dede on both the Descendants and the Descendant
 Narrative reports.  If footnotes is selected, separate details appear for
 EACH occurrence.  If end notes is selected, only one occurrence appears.
 Definitely looks like a bug to me.


 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kirsten,
 I've been experimenting with this and here's what I've come up with:
 If you choose Descendant report from the Books-Other tab of the main
 report window-
 then choose Report Options at the bottom, click on the Sources tab and
 choose Print Source Citations as Endnotes
 the details will only show up the first time for sources created using
 the census template on the SourceWriter.

 If you choose Print Source Citations as Footnotes, the details will
 print for every citation of that source.

 Does this help?




 On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can't remember which bugs have been reported and which might not.
 
  On the Source Clipboard

Re: [LegacyUG] Where to source a burial card?

2008-07-06 Thread Dede Holden
Paul,
A quick look at Evidence Explained, 3.25 (p.138 in the hard copy)
lists these under Artifacts- Privately Held.  Take a look at this
template and see if it will serve your purposes.

Dede

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been given some small cards by my grandmother that are just memorial 
 cards given out at the time of somebody's death.  One of them is for my great 
 grandfather who died in 1931.  The card gives his name, date of death, age 
 and the name of the cemetery where he was interred.  There are no 
 'publication' facts as these cards were obviously only given to friends  
 family, so which of the new source templates should I use?

 Thanks

 Paul



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Re: [LegacyUG] 7.0.0.53 Source: Artifacts Privately held

2008-07-05 Thread Dede Holden
Kristen,
I've just tried this and I can confirm this condition.  I have a source
created with the Artifact template.  The Source text does not appear at all
in the Descendant Book Report, nor does the Source Detail. It also does not
print in the Individual Report, nor the Family Group Report.  The source
does appear in the Bibliography however.

I would think this is a bug.

Dede

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've used the Artifacts  Privately held template for several citations.
 All have detail text and comments and all have the add text boxes
 checked.
 In all instances, the information shows correctly in the Output screen on
 the individual's page but the detail and comments do not appear in the
 Descendant Book Report.

 Do others see this condition?  Is it a bug associated only with the
 Artifacts  Privately held template?  (Other templates I've used work
 properly so far.)

 Kirsten










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Re: [LegacyUG] Strange characters after names

2008-06-30 Thread Dede Holden
Jane,
In the Help file, do a search for Symbols.  One of the titles is What
do the symbols mean?  This should help answer your question.

Dede Holden

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Jane Sarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many of the people in my imported data base have strange characters after
 their name in the children view.  Some have a +.  Some have a (_).  I
 don't understand this at all.  I have tried to change some things globally,
 using search and replace, but it doesn't seem to work.  It did correct 1
 instance, one time, but left the rest.

 Jane Sarles



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[LegacyUG] V7 Repository Notes question/bug?

2008-06-28 Thread Dede Holden
I've just discovered a curious thing.  When you select an existing
repository for a new source created using the SourceWriter, the Notes
window appears to be an active window, with a blinking cursor. There
is even a greyed out scroll bar. However, you cannot add notes here.
You must click on the Edit button, then choose the Notes tab to create
a note.  The note then appears in this window, once you've saved it.
Has anyone else noticed this?  I don't mind the note window being
there, but I would think it should appear as uneditable.  I know
this is a ticky little thing and it's really not a big deal.  Just
wondering if anybody else gets the same thing.

-- 
Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization Tips message not shown

2008-06-24 Thread Dede Holden
Jim,
Try Options (or Ctrl+Z) - Customize - Other - Optional Reminder
Messages - Message Tab, bottom box. (Message to always show
Standardization Tips)

Dede Holden

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Jim Ormsbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My wife unchecked 'Always show Standardization Tips' after modifying an
 individual's information because it was annoying her. It was displayed
 because of the character '\', which she extensively uses to separate
 different spellings of the given name.  Now it doesn't show for any problems
 for any individual, and we can't turn it back on.  We looked at all the
 options.

 Incidentally, '\' is not shown as a character not usually found in a name.

 We are using Legacy 7.0 Deluxe Edition.  Any thoughts?

 Jim



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Reports

2008-06-24 Thread Dede Holden
Tom,
Since I'm one of those who has been guilty in the past of answering
the wrong question, I'm trying to be careful here.  There are two tabs
available when you choose Source Citation Report.  Have you looked at
both of those and marked the appropriate boxes?  It seems that there
is more than one place to choose what prints on various reports.

I have had a problem with the source text and details printing
properly on Family Group Reports when I've added new sources using the
SourceWriter. That has been discussed and I understand that the
programmers are working on it, if they haven't already fixed it.  But
on my Source Citation Report, it appears that all is well.  I do have
sources that were added in Legacy 6 and have not been changed, as well
as new sources added since I got Legacy 7, both using the
SourceWriter, as well as the Basic entry screen.  I checked all of
these and everything is printing as I have requested, both at the
Source entry level, as well as the Source Citation Report level.

Dede Holden

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have checked the archives and I see nothing about the problem I'm dealing
 with.

 Source detail is printing fine in the footnote/endmote.

 What I am trying to get across is that the source (or citation) detail is
 not printing on the Source Citation Report even though the option to include
 it has been checked.

 What is odd is that I series of citations for the Social Security Death
 Index as a major source with the detail appropriate to each individual. The
 citations printed correctly  on the Source Citation Report, including the
 source detail

 When I went through the same process using the Application for a Social
 Security Account (SS-5) as the Master Source, citing source details for each
 person, the source detail does NOT appear in the Source Citation Account.

 I then did a test with 2 or 3 more made up sources and the problem repeated
 itself.

 This has nothing to do with source details not appearing in footnotes or
 source details not appearing in subseguent citations.

 I'm tryingto explain all of this again because I get the impression that
 sometimes helpful people answer what they think the question is rather than
 what the question really is.

 If the problem I am experiencing has indeed been previously reported as a
 bug, where is the evidence of that? Why did Geoff not know about it.

 I appreciate all assistance.

 Tom Herson
 Ithaca, NY



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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Reports

2008-06-24 Thread Dede Holden
Tom,
I have tried every possible combination of options and I cannot
reproduce this problem as you describe it.  In fact, I can't find a
way to keep the Source Detail from printing on every source I've
tagged, as long as I've chosen all the options on the tab for the
report. (Specific events and all 4 boxes underneath.)

When I'm having a problem like this, I do a backup, then file
maintenance, etc., then shut down and restart and see what happens.

Now I'm going to be late for work, but I've been learning a lot trying
to help you figure this out!

Good luck!
Dede

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dede and Interested Legacy Staff,

 In the Reports window, under Miscellaneous Reports, I click on Source
 Citation Listing. The Source Citation Report Window has two tabs...Include
 and Options.

 On the Include tab I have selected Only Tagged Sources (I have already
 tagged the particular source I want a reoprt of) andMaster Sources and All
 Citations to Each One. I have also selected include specific events and
 all four items under that.

 On the Options tab all seven choices at the top of the tab are checked and
 Printed Style Format is selected.

 Source Writer has been used to establish the Master Sources and the Source
 Detail .

 The resultant Source Citation report the first time I printed it for a
 particular tagged Master Source was fine and the Source Detail is included.
 When I tag a different Master Source and the same selections remain on the
 Include and Options tabs, the Source Detail is NOT included when I print the
 Source Citation Report.

 I am able to add more citations to the first source and those addition print
 properly on the Source Citation Report.

 If I tag both the first source and another one, the first source prints
 properly, including the source detail for each event, but the next source
 excludes the source detail for each event.

 Suggestions anyone?

 Tom Herson
 Ithaca, NY
 - Original Message - From: Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Reports


 Tom,
 Since I'm one of those who has been guilty in the past of answering
 the wrong question, I'm trying to be careful here.  There are two tabs
 available when you choose Source Citation Report.  Have you looked at
 both of those and marked the appropriate boxes?  It seems that there
 is more than one place to choose what prints on various reports.

 I have had a problem with the source text and details printing
 properly on Family Group Reports when I've added new sources using the
 SourceWriter. That has been discussed and I understand that the
 programmers are working on it, if they haven't already fixed it.  But
 on my Source Citation Report, it appears that all is well.  I do have
 sources that were added in Legacy 6 and have not been changed, as well
 as new sources added since I got Legacy 7, both using the
 SourceWriter, as well as the Basic entry screen.  I checked all of
 these and everything is printing as I have requested, both at the
 Source entry level, as well as the Source Citation Report level.

 Dede Holden

 On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I have checked the archives and I see nothing about the problem I'm
 dealing
 with.

 Source detail is printing fine in the footnote/endmote.

 What I am trying to get across is that the source (or citation) detail is
 not printing on the Source Citation Report even though the option to
 include
 it has been checked.

 What is odd is that I series of citations for the Social Security Death
 Index as a major source with the detail appropriate to each individual.
 The
 citations printed correctly  on the Source Citation Report, including the
 source detail

 When I went through the same process using the Application for a Social
 Security Account (SS-5) as the Master Source, citing source details for
 each
 person, the source detail does NOT appear in the Source Citation Account.

 I then did a test with 2 or 3 more made up sources and the problem
 repeated
 itself.

 This has nothing to do with source details not appearing in footnotes or
 source details not appearing in subseguent citations.

 I'm tryingto explain all of this again because I get the impression that
 sometimes helpful people answer what they think the question is rather
 than
 what the question really is.

 If the problem I am experiencing has indeed been previously reported as a
 bug, where is the evidence of that? Why did Geoff not know about it.

 I appreciate all assistance.

 Tom Herson
 Ithaca, NY



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-20 Thread Dede Holden
Jenny,
My newly combined source does have the bullet beside it.  That's one
of the first questions I posted after I combined the sources and Geoff
responded that the bullet means the source was created with the new
Source Writer.  I thought that in itself is a great feature so that
you will know the difference.

I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and see exactly what I
did.  I really do think I clicked on the new source first.  Somehow it
made sense to me that if I wanted the Master Source info from one and
the detail from the other that I should click on the Master first and
then combine the details into that master.  I knew I had my backup to
rely on, in case I lost all the details.

Thanks for exploring this with me.  It's really helping me to think
through my next steps - do I wait for these quesitions to be answered
definitely, or do I keep working on my sources?  Right now, I'm just
adding new sources with the Source Writer - not doing any more
combining.

Dede

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dede Holden wrote

 Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and details
 were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined like it was
 supposed to.

 If you did indeed do exactly what you described in your original post, you
 merged the *new* Source into the *old* one.   This does retain the old
 Source Detail.  Presumably what you intended to do is the opposite - old
 into new - and everyone is finding that Source Details are *not* retained in
 the new, merged Source.

 Has your newly combined Source got the bullet next to it when you look at
 the Source List?  If not, then you definitely merged new into old.
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-20 Thread Dede Holden
Janis,
I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do.
What happens when you choose Edit Detail?  Can you then copy your
detail?

Dede

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned Sources
 screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen
 full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the
 Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is no
 way to copy it for pasting.

 Is that more clear?

 Janis

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD
 SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see
 the 'lost words'? Go to Text/Comments, or other
 choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it
 all and move it to the new correct place.
 I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can
 be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it
 grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this
 way, please be more descriptive of where you see the
 hidden stuff.
 Rich in LA CA
 --- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Janis Gilmore wrote
 Nothing, however, will enable access to the old
 source detail, in spite
 of the fact that it is partially visible.
 
 (Gee, this is hard to describe!)

 It is quite normal that you cannot access that old
 detail because you
 never have been able to access or copy material from
 the Assigned
 Sources Screen.  You have only ever been able to
 highlight a whole row
 with either mouse or keyboard.

 You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail
 visible by altering the
 column widths before you click on Edit and then you
 can copy the Detail
 into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and
 re-typing it.
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-20 Thread Dede Holden
I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the
detail that you can't access.  If I can see detail on the Assigned
Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail,
then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there.
 When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer
screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is
there.  I can edit or copy from that place.

Dede


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get
 the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation
 are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible.

 Janis
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Janis,
 I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do.
 What happens when you choose Edit Detail?  Can you then copy your
 detail?

 Dede

 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned
 Sources
 screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen
 full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the
 Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is
 no
 way to copy it for pasting.

 Is that more clear?

 Janis

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD
 SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see
 the 'lost words'? Go to Text/Comments, or other
 choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it
 all and move it to the new correct place.
 I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can
 be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it
 grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this
 way, please be more descriptive of where you see the
 hidden stuff.
 Rich in LA CA
 --- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Janis Gilmore wrote
 Nothing, however, will enable access to the old
 source detail, in spite
 of the fact that it is partially visible.
 
 (Gee, this is hard to describe!)

 It is quite normal that you cannot access that old
 detail because you
 never have been able to access or copy material from
 the Assigned
 Sources Screen.  You have only ever been able to
 highlight a whole row
 with either mouse or keyboard.

 You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail
 visible by altering the
 column widths before you click on Edit and then you
 can copy the Detail
 into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and
 re-typing it.
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-20 Thread Dede Holden
Jenny and Janis,
I have gone back and reread this thread.  I think I understand what
you're talking about now.  The Text/comment is NOT the problem.  I
finally figured it out - it's late on a Friday night.  I guess this
has not been a problem for me, because the Source Detail I've been
working with is just a page number, so I've not had a problem
re-entering it.  Please forgive me for trying to solve this problem
that I didn't fully understand.  I can see that if you're working with
a census or something more complicated than just a page number that it
would be a problem to re-enter.

I'm thinking that I'll wait for the conversion tool to do my census
and other complicated conversions!

Dede

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I guess, like Rich, I don't understand where it is you can see the
 detail that you can't access.  If I can see detail on the Assigned
 Sources screen, and I highlight that Source and click Edit Detail,
 then I click on the Text/Comments tab and I can copy the detail there.
  When I first click on Edit Detail, I do get the blank Source Writer
 screen, but then I click on the Text/Comments tab and my detail is
 there.  I can edit or copy from that place.

 Dede


 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, Dede, you cannot copy the detail. When you choose Edit Detail, you get
 the new (and empty) Source Writer detail screen. The details of the citation
 are nowhere to be seen. They are not accessible.

 Janis
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:19 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Janis,
 I may not completely understand exactly what you're trying to do.
 What happens when you choose Edit Detail?  Can you then copy your
 detail?

 Dede

 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 It is only visible (partially) in the Details column of the Assigned
 Sources
 screen (for any individual). When I make the Assigned Sources screen
 full-screen, and reduce the other columns to a slim width, and leave the
 Details column very wide, I can almost see all of the info - but there is
 no
 way to copy it for pasting.

 Is that more clear?

 Janis

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD
 SCHULTHIES
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:36 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Going to the Assigned Sources Screen, where do you see
 the 'lost words'? Go to Text/Comments, or other
 choices. You cannot edit the info, but you can copy it
 all and move it to the new correct place.
 I am not sure if this is your spot. Some of them, can
 be copied in scroll mode (?name?) so in this way, it
 grabs the total document. If it is not accessable this
 way, please be more descriptive of where you see the
 hidden stuff.
 Rich in LA CA
 --- Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Janis Gilmore wrote
 Nothing, however, will enable access to the old
 source detail, in spite
 of the fact that it is partially visible.
 
 (Gee, this is hard to describe!)

 It is quite normal that you cannot access that old
 detail because you
 never have been able to access or copy material from
 the Assigned
 Sources Screen.  You have only ever been able to
 highlight a whole row
 with either mouse or keyboard.

 You can, in fact (usually) make the whole Detail
 visible by altering the
 column widths before you click on Edit and then you
 can copy the Detail
 into the SourceWriter Detail field by reading and
 re-typing it.
 --
 Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-19 Thread Dede Holden
Janis,

The source was a book compiled by my great uncle.  I had BMD info for
each particular person in the Source Details.  I also had a paragraph
from the Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments.

From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the
SourceWriter Template.  I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just
a little from what I had written originally.  As far as I can remember
now, I clicked on the new source first, chose Combine Highlighted
Source then clicked on the old source and then clicked again.  This
source was attached to several areas, Name, Birth, Marriage, and some
Residence events.  I have just checked one more time and all the
details are still there, just as I entered them on Legacy 6.

Hope this helps.

Dede

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dede,

 Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and in
 what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on combine
 highlighted source with another in list - then clicked on the new
 SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation details, but
 comments tabs remained intact.

 Since I did it with a particular census, and the census year and county, and
 the household data is in the Event Notes area, all I have lost is the
 township, p. no.'s, etc - easily replaced.

 Janis Walker Gilmore

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:52 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Gail and Janis,

 I have done the same thing.  I took a source that had lots of
 different source details for several generations.  I created a new
 Master Source using the Source Writer.  I combined the two.  My
 details stayed exactly where they were supposed to!  I did not have to
 re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled.  Of course, I did a
 backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source
 details that I spent DAYS entering.

 As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going
 to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM!

 Dede Holden




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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-19 Thread Dede Holden
Janis,
Based on what Geoff and Dave B have said, I think my source and
details were pretty clear cut - no conflicts so everything combined
like it was supposed to.  Or maybe it was just beginner's luck!  After
reading Geoff's comments and Dave B.'s observations, I've gone back
and checked everything just to be sure I didn't overlook something
that might have gotten lost in translation.  I'm a little nervous
about trying to combine any more sources, since everyone has not had
the same results that I had.

I'm like you - I do love the new Sourcewriter.   I am able to be more
consistent in the way I am entering my data. I finally feel confident
that I'm doing things the right way - not just feeling my way through
and making it up as I go.

Dede

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure, Geoff, that I understand this in light of DeDe's comment,
 however.

 She said her source details survived the merge. Is that in conflict with
 what Dave B. indicated?

 Janis (loving the new SourceWriter, and still experimenting)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff
 Rasmussen
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:54 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Janis,

 In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer)
 comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way,
 hence the need for the conversion tool.

 Thanks,

 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
 Gilmore
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a
 message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it,
 the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not
 preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete
 source.

 Comments, Geoff?

 Janis Walker Gilmore

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Ladies,

 Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and
 Dede merged them the other way, new into old?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
 Gilmore
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources


 DeDe (and Gail),

 That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what
 you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost
 the citation detail?

 Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template.

 It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this.

 Janis Walker Gilmore

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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
 Master Sources

 Janis,

 The source was a book compiled by my great uncle.  I had BMD info for each
 particular person in the Source Details.  I also had a paragraph from the
 Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments.

 From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter
 Template.  I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what
 I had written originally.  As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the
 new source first, chose Combine Highlighted Source then clicked on the old
 source and then clicked again.  This source was attached to several areas,
 Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events.  I have just checked one
 more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on
 Legacy 6.

 Hope this helps.

 Dede

 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Dede,

 Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and
 in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on
 combine highlighted source with another in list - then clicked on
 the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation
 details,
 but
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Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

2008-06-18 Thread Dede Holden
Gail and Janis,

I have done the same thing.  I took a source that had lots of
different source details for several generations.  I created a new
Master Source using the Source Writer.  I combined the two.  My
details stayed exactly where they were supposed to!  I did not have to
re-enter any of the details. I was thrilled.  Of course, I did a
backup before trying this, just in case I lost all those source
details that I spent DAYS entering.

As soon as they tweak the subsequent citation problem, this is going
to be the best thing to happen to us since the GEDCOM!

Dede Holden

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gail,

 This is exactly what happened to me when I merged two census sources.

 Any thoughts, Geoff?

 Janis Walker Gilmore

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 I decided to start a new topic here for this question.  I created a
 new master source for a census.  Then I merged an existing master
 source used by 5 individuals into the new master source.  The master
 source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed
 attached to the new master.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-14 Thread Dede Holden
Jenny and Jon,

I must be a math/geognoramus.  Here's a quote taken from the Help file
in Legacy.

The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes
and seconds.  The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and
between 0 and 180, if a longitude.  The minutes and seconds must be
between 0 and 59.  The seconds can have up to three decimal places
after it.  e.g. 681234.293.

If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude),
and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59  then where do
you get the number 681234?  It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180!

I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this
number format.  Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math
terms?

Thanks!
Dede Holden

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 John Gregson wrote

 What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy?
 I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer.,
 probably missed something.

 Tes, I think you have.

 In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click
 Display select Latitude and Longitude again.  Scroll down to the paragraph
 in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees,
 minutes and seconds.  When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate
 drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively.

 I found all the explanations of Lat  Long in the Help system very useful,
 being as I am a geognoramus!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-14 Thread Dede Holden
Okay, I'm going to answer my own question.
I went to the Locations window and clicked Add.  At the bottom of
the screen, where you add latitude and longitude, I see the
explanation of this lengthy number.
Latitude = DDMMSS.xxx and Longitude = DDDMMSS.xxx

So 681234.293 is 68 degrees, 12 minutes and 34.293 seconds.

Now it makes sense.

Dede

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jenny and Jon,

 I must be a math/geognoramus.  Here's a quote taken from the Help file
 in Legacy.

 The latitude and longitude must be in the form of degrees, minutes
 and seconds.  The degrees must be between 0 and 90, if a latitude, and
 between 0 and 180, if a longitude.  The minutes and seconds must be
 between 0 and 59.  The seconds can have up to three decimal places
 after it.  e.g. 681234.293.

 If the degrees must be between 0 and 90 or (0 and 180 for longitude),
 and the minutes and seconds must be between 0 and 59  then where do
 you get the number 681234?  It's not between 0 and 59 or 90 or 180!

 I understand latitude and longitude, but I don't understand this
 number format.  Is there someone who can put it in 6th grade math
 terms?

 Thanks!
 Dede Holden

 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John Gregson wrote

 What is the correct format when entering Lat/Long into Legacy?
 I've checked the archives and the Help but can't find a simple answer.,
 probably missed something.

 Tes, I think you have.

 In the Help Index, look for Latitude and Longitude and after you click
 Display select Latitude and Longitude again.  Scroll down to the paragraph
 in bold type which explains how Lat and Long must be expressed in degrees,
 minutes and seconds.  When you enter the Lat and Long there are separate
 drop-downs for selecting N/s and E/W respectively.

 I found all the explanations of Lat  Long in the Help system very useful,
 being as I am a geognoramus!
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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy User Group] Version 7 Family view-customize

2008-06-14 Thread Dede Holden
On the Individual screen, click on the arrow at the end of the burial
field.  The bottom choice is Cremated.  When you check this option,
the wording changes to show Cremated, rather than Buried.

Dede Holden

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 Using the Customize Family View screen, I would like to change
 BURIED to CREMATED

 I can not change this field; grayed out.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining Sources in v7 - problem with print out

2008-06-14 Thread Dede Holden
Several of us have reported some inconsistencies with the way our
source information is appearing in reports, when we've used the new
source writer template.  I have submitted a bug report for my
particular issue, and I think some others have done the same.  I am
patiently waiting for the amazing programmers to fix these issues.
Meanwhile, I'm working on some other things, doing some more research,
organizing my paperwork, etc.  Hopefully this will be resolved soon.
All in all Legacy 7 is worth the price - the Source Writer Template is
really a great idea and I can't wait for them to get it all
kink-free.

Dede Holden

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have tried making a new source in the master source list for 1850 Izard
 County, Arkanasas Federal Census via Source Writer and then combining my old
 1850 Izard source that was written via the basic source entry system.

 After that, I went into the clipboard  put the details in.  Went to each of
 the seven individuals and fixed the details by the clipboard (because they
 evidently did not carry over in the combination process).  Everything
 looked fine at that point.

 Looking at each person's sources (there's only 7 people using this cite) and
 checking on what the subsequent citations should look like, all seems well
 and shows this the way it was entered in Source Writer.

 However!  On reports, the subsequent citation is picking up nonsense out of
 the old basic source version that was supposedly changed when I combined it
 with the new Source Writer source.

 Either I've confused myself and can't see where I went wrong (highly
 likely)
 or
 it's a bug of some sort. (not as likely, but certainly possible.)

 Help???

 Thanks in advance,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v.7 source details don't print

2008-06-13 Thread Dede Holden
I am also having a problem with Master Source Text/Comments and Source
Detail Text.

Problem: Master Source Text/Comments appears on EVERY instance of
Source Citation, even though I have checked Include on Reports
First Time Only
The Source Detail does not print on any subsequent Source Citations,
even though I have checked Include on Reports

I thought the problem might be attributed to the fact that these
sources had been converted from Legacy 6. I re-entered the Master
Source information using the new Source Templates. I combined the
Sources (old into new).  My detail text stayed where it belonged
(thankfully!).

To test this theory, I entered a brand new source that had never been
a part of my Legacy 6.  I used the Source Template.  I have the same
problem.  Master Text/Comments on EVERY citation, detail only on the
first.

I deleted the Legacy/FGS.usr file as Ron suggested.  I tried again.
Still the same problem.

Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the Master Source Text/Comments?
I really don't want to read this information over and over again in
reports.  I thought that choosing First Time Only meant that if the
Source is footnote #1, the Text/Comments will be printed.  If this
same source is footnote #3 (and 4 and 5...) I shouldn't see the
Text/Comments again.

Any help will be appreciated.  Right now I am waiting to enter more
information, because I don't want to have to change everything if I've
misunderstood this function.

Thanks,
Dede Holden

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 Marie,

 It works fine. Try deleting the C:\Legacy\FGS.usr file and resetting your 
 criteria.


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 Source detail in endnotes don't print in either family group report or 
 individual report.





 Checked box to include them.  Also checked box for bibliography but that 
 doesn't print either.





 Is there something I'm missing?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2008-06-11 Thread Dede Holden
I understand what you're saying.  Since I'm taking this very slowly, I
just pull out my original source document and use it for entering the
source using the Source Writer.  I've found that sometimes I need
information that I did not include the first time I entered the source
anyway.

Dede

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 But I'm unable to split screens, i.e. viewing old and new sources
 simultaneously.

 On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 JD Liddil wrote

 In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this
 conversion manually?

 As I think I have mentioned elsewhere, I create a new Source to match the
 old one, then merge the old into the new and adjust the Source Details as
 necessary.

 If yolu are a lumper, creating the new Master Sources doesn't take too long,
 but updating all the Source Details might be quite a major task.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2008-06-11 Thread Dede Holden
Add the new source with the template.
Combine the old source with the new source.  The new source will have
a bullet beside it,indicating that it was generated with the Source
Template.
I don't think it matters which one you choose first when you are
combining.  The progam recognizes the source created with the new
template.
Verify that your Source Details are accurate.
I have converted several of my sources this way and everything has
been handled beautifully by Legacy.  The source detail stayed where it
belonged, with the appropriate person.

Dede Holden

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 JD Liddil wrote

 In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this
 conversion manually?

 As I think I have mentioned elsewhere, I create a new Source to match the
 old one, then merge the old into the new and adjust the Source Details as
 necessary.

 If yolu are a lumper, creating the new Master Sources doesn't take too long,
 but updating all the Source Details might be quite a major task.
 --
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[LegacyUG] Ver 7 source detail on reports

2008-06-10 Thread Dede Holden
I first asked this question on Saturday and had no response.  Maybe my
question was too long.  I do know that the Legacy server is swamped
and many things have been held up so I've waited this long to repost.
(It's Tuesday morning.) I'll try to rephrase briefly.

On Reports, I'd like for the Master Source Text/Comments to be shown
the first time a source is cited only.  I have that option checked.
I want the Source Detail to print, also.

But I'm getting the Master Source Text/Comments every time the source
is cited and the Source Detail from the first citation only on the
first citation.  When the Source Detail changes with subsequent
citations of the source, the Detail does not appear on the report,
even when it is the first time this detail has been cited.

Since there are several places that this option can be turned on or
off, I don't know if :

1) I've missed something
2) I've misunderstood the purpose of the option
3) This is a bug

I have been testing this on Family Group Reports.


-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2008-06-09 Thread Dede Holden
The good news is:
Once you've added the new version of your source, you can combine the
old source with the new one and Legacy keeps the new source.  The
bullet beside the source in the Master Source list lets you know which
sources have been written with the new Source Writer.  I've made the
change for several of my sources that had multiple citations with
different Source Details for each and all have been handled properly
by Legacy.  I'm sure I don't have as many sources as many of you, but
I'm finding it helpful to do this conversion manually, since it forces
me to look at each source and rethink my citations.

It also helps to generate some of your favorite reports and see how
the source citations are handled.  You can see what needs to be
fixed.

Dede

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:03 PM, JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One at a time.  Start a new source so there's a small box on top of your
 main screen for that and you can still see the old source.  Then either
 re-type or copy and paste one section at a time from the old fields to the
 new ones.  Repeat x-hundred times.  See you in about 5 years.
 --
 JL
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
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 JD Liddil wrote:

 In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this
 conversion manually?

 JD

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 Bob,

 It's still work in progress - so not there as yet


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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:43:20 +0100

 I am sure I am being incredibly dense, but I can't locate the Source
 Template Conversion Tool (in Master Source List Options, according to
 the
 manual).

 I have the SourceWriter System switched on in Customise.

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[LegacyUG] V7 Source Text/Comments on Reports

2008-06-08 Thread Dede Holden
I have a Master Source that includes a brief quote from the preface as
text. I have also included a comment regarding the source in the
Comments box.  There is also source detail which has text.
I have indicated that these should be shown on reports for the first
citation only. This source has been created using the SourceWriter
template.

However, when I print a Family Group Report which uses this source and
source detail for Name, Birth, and Death, it shows the source detail
text for the first citation only (this is what I want) and the master
source text and comments only for all the subsequent citations (what I
don't want - I just want this to show the first time also).

I've checked first time only at the source entry windows.  Is there
another box somewhere else that I need to check/uncheck?

I hope I've explained this so that you can understand what I'm asking.


-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Potential Problem Reports

2008-06-08 Thread Dede Holden
Phil,

I was curious about your question, so I've done a little investigating.

First of all, I suspect that you have probably ENTERED all your
surnames as capital letters.  I have entered mine normally, but choose
to let Legacy convert them to all caps for reports.  If that is the
case, then you need to click on the Standardization tab of the
Potential Problems report and uncheck the last box, which considers
surnames typed in all caps as a potential problem.

The interesting thing I've discovered is that you can get several
different formats for this report.

If you click Create Problems List  then you get a list that you can
work with - go to each individual and edit from the list.  (Fabulous
feature!)
If you then click Preview from that list, you can specify if you
want a detailed, abbreviated, or summary report.
The reports that are generated this way do not have the surnames in
all caps, since I did not enter them that way.

However, if I click Preview directly from the initial Potential
Problems Report screen (not create list or view existing list), then
the surnames are in all caps.

Very interesting.

Thanks for prodding me to do a little more exploring in V7.  I'm very
happy about it, too.

Dede Holden

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Phil Stanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI

 I have just received V7 and am very happy with it.  However I have a small
 problem with generating Potential Problems Reports.  I prefer to have my
 surnames all in upper case and have set this in preferences.  (Incidently, I
 set this in the the new set up procedure that appears on installation but it
 didn't seem to stiick.)  Now when I generate a problem report it shows the
 potential problems I know about, but also flags every entry as a problem
 with the reason 'surname all in uppercase'.  I expect I am doing something
 silly here, but I can't see what.  Any suggestions gratefully received.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

2008-06-08 Thread Dede Holden
Thanks to Cathy and Susan for your responses re: addresses in location
field.  I think I might add specific addresses for cemeteries and
churches and some residences - only the ones I'm interested in
seeing.

I did finally figure out the push pin thing.

Once again the LUG comes to save the day!

Dede

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Susan Daily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dede, since cemeteries and churches, etc. are used by more than one person,
 generally, it doesn't add tremendously to the Master Location list (although
 I do have 1401 locations, so maybe it does). So then you can place the pin
 for that cemetery and church more specifically. I wouldn't do residences,
 but that is a personal preference.

 To move the pin, right-click in the new location, and the pin will move
 there.

 I am not sure if these are covered in the videos.
 --Susan

 On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've read the archives and I've read the help files, but I'm still a
 little confused about how the mapping and push pins work.  If these
 questions are answered in one of the new videos, let me know and I
 will buy today!

 Question 1: If you have a street address for the cemetery, it is
 properly entered in the Burial Address field, which is accessed by
 clicking the arrow at the end of the Burial location field.  When you
 put it in the proper place, then Map My Places only finds the location
 entered from the Master Location list.  It does not find the specific
 cemetery.

 I have read several suggestions about how others enter this, but if
 you have to enter the specific street address for each location, won't
 this make your Master Location List rather long and cumbersome?  If
 this is the only way, I have lots of work to do to get the mapping
 feature to work properly.

 Question 2: For some reason, the push pin for my parents' hometown
 comes up on the same street they live on, only five blocks south.  I
 have NOT entered their address, so I'm guessing this is just where VE
 has decided to put the pin for their town.

 It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it
 to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work.  Is there a
 complicated reason why that is not an option?  I'll take a simple not
 even possible.  I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not,
 since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :)

 Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and
 genealogy!)

 --
 Dede Holden

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

2008-06-07 Thread Dede Holden
Bert,
That seemed logical to me, as I said, but whether I right click or
left click, the map moves, not the push pin.  What am I doing wrong?

Dede

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert van Kootwijk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rightclick on the pushpin, than you can drag it.

 Bert


 - Original Message - From: Rodney Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede
 Holden
 Sent: 05 June 2008 11:47
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

 It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it
 to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work.  Is there a
 complicated reason why that is not an option?  I'll take a simple not
 even possible.  I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not,
 since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :)

 Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and
 genealogy!)

 --
 Dede Holden

 Dede,

 Go to the correct location and right click on the map. You will be asked
 if
 you want to make this the spot. Bingo!

 --
 Rodney HALL
 Heywood, Lancashire
 Suaviter sed fortiter
 Agreeably but powerfully
 ~
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://rmhh.co.uk/
 http://rmhh.org.uk/
 ~~






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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy Charting Pre-release - SUCCESS!

2008-06-07 Thread Dede Holden
Earlier today, Luc posted that it was okay to delete the pre-release
of Legacy Charting, once Legacy 7 Deluxe is successfully installed.

I just checked.  I have two desktop icons on my computer, one for the
pre-release and one for Legacy Charting 7.  I checked the About
files for each and they are the same program.  Evidently, Legacy
Charting was installed over the pre-release when I installed Legacy 7
Deluxe.  I simply deleted the unneeded shortcut icon.

Hope this helps.

Dede Holden

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just received and successfully dowloaded Legacy7. Looks like a real
 winner. I'm confused about the Legacy Charting (pre-release). Now that I
 have Legacy7 should I still download the Legacy Charting or is it contained
 in Legacy7?

 Thanks,
 Carol

 In a message dated 6/5/2008 12:59:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I haven't heard anything about Legacy Charting [pre-release] for a while now
 and wanted to remind folks of this option.  With all the griping and
 complaining lately, I also wanted to post a POSITIVE message and to say
 THANK YOU to Millennia Corp for such a great product!!!  I'm just thrilled
 at the result.  I know the chart will be the centerpiece of the reunion and
 I can't wait to show it off.




 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

2008-06-07 Thread Dede Holden
Bert and Rodney,
I have been able to correct misplaced locations by using Resolve
then right-clicking.  Still can't right click and drag the push pin,
though.

Thanks for your help.

Dede

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rodney,

 I also tried your advice, but when I right click at a spot in the map,
 nothing happens.  Could this be a mouse programming problem?

 Dede

 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bert,
 That seemed logical to me, as I said, but whether I right click or
 left click, the map moves, not the push pin.  What am I doing wrong?

 Dede

 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert van Kootwijk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rightclick on the pushpin, than you can drag it.

 Bert


 - Original Message - From: Rodney Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede
 Holden
 Sent: 05 June 2008 11:47
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

 It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it
 to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work.  Is there a
 complicated reason why that is not an option?  I'll take a simple not
 even possible.  I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not,
 since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :)

 Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and
 genealogy!)

 --
 Dede Holden

 Dede,

 Go to the correct location and right click on the map. You will be asked
 if
 you want to make this the spot. Bingo!

 --
 Rodney HALL
 Heywood, Lancashire
 Suaviter sed fortiter
 Agreeably but powerfully
 ~
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://rmhh.co.uk/
 http://rmhh.org.uk/
 ~~



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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

2008-06-07 Thread Dede Holden
Rodney,

I also tried your advice, but when I right click at a spot in the map,
nothing happens.  Could this be a mouse programming problem?

Dede

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Dede Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bert,
 That seemed logical to me, as I said, but whether I right click or
 left click, the map moves, not the push pin.  What am I doing wrong?

 Dede

 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert van Kootwijk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rightclick on the pushpin, than you can drag it.

 Bert


 - Original Message - From: Rodney Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede
 Holden
 Sent: 05 June 2008 11:47
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

 It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it
 to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work.  Is there a
 complicated reason why that is not an option?  I'll take a simple not
 even possible.  I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not,
 since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :)

 Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and
 genealogy!)

 --
 Dede Holden

 Dede,

 Go to the correct location and right click on the map. You will be asked
 if
 you want to make this the spot. Bingo!

 --
 Rodney HALL
 Heywood, Lancashire
 Suaviter sed fortiter
 Agreeably but powerfully
 ~
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://rmhh.co.uk/
 http://rmhh.org.uk/
 ~~






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Re: [LegacyUG] Dup Name Check

2008-06-06 Thread Dede Holden
I agree.  When I am asked if I am adding a new person or linking to an
existing person, I check link and verify that I do (or don't)
already have this person.  It's very simple to close the window and
add the new person if he/she doesn't already exist.  I've also found
it a relatively simple process to merge the two if I accidentally add
someone twice.

I was continuously aggravated by FTM when I tried to add a new person
with the same name as someone already in my file.  Some people might
enjoy machines that try to think for them, but a little of that goes a
long way with me.

Dede Holden

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:18 PM, GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You could easily look at the name list to see.  I have 4 Frank McKains
 and would have been rather frustrated if the program kept coming back
 and telling me the name was already used or something - is that what
 the dup check on entry of a person does?  I (for one) am glad it is
 not there.  I know I have dozens of repeated names (only the years and
 other details help tell them apart).

 Keith

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Larry Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have looked in everything available and maybe someone here can answer a
 user question I had asked by my netter half.

 Does Legacy have the ability to do a person/name dup check on entry of a
 person? Several programs do, but I cannot see where that is done within
 legacy, and if not, that feature really needs to be added. I have seen her
 (my better half) more than once lose her temper because the person she just
 put in was already there and now she has a merging mess on her hand.

 So does Legacy do what most other genealogy software programs do?

 Warm regards,

 Larry Van Horn
 Nicolas Martiau Descendant Association National Registrar
 Family Historian, Genealogy Instructor/Lecturer and Syndicated Newspaper
 Columnist
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 http://family-genealogy.blogspot.com/





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[LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

2008-06-05 Thread Dede Holden
I've read the archives and I've read the help files, but I'm still a
little confused about how the mapping and push pins work.  If these
questions are answered in one of the new videos, let me know and I
will buy today!

Question 1: If you have a street address for the cemetery, it is
properly entered in the Burial Address field, which is accessed by
clicking the arrow at the end of the Burial location field.  When you
put it in the proper place, then Map My Places only finds the location
entered from the Master Location list.  It does not find the specific
cemetery.

I have read several suggestions about how others enter this, but if
you have to enter the specific street address for each location, won't
this make your Master Location List rather long and cumbersome?  If
this is the only way, I have lots of work to do to get the mapping
feature to work properly.

Question 2: For some reason, the push pin for my parents' hometown
comes up on the same street they live on, only five blocks south.  I
have NOT entered their address, so I'm guessing this is just where VE
has decided to put the pin for their town.

It feels like we should be able to click on the push pin and drag it
to where we want it to be, but I know that doesn't work.  Is there a
complicated reason why that is not an option?  I'll take a simple not
even possible.  I don't need a detailed explanation as to why not,
since I probably wouldn't understand it anyway! :)

Thanks to all of you who have taught me so much about Legacy (and genealogy!)

--
Dede Holden



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Maiden Names and Married Names

2008-06-04 Thread Dede Holden
Belinda,
I have Legacy 7 and just checked this out for you.  From the main tool
bar, you can go to Options, Customize, Data Entry.  At the bottom of
the screen is the global setting for changing the wife's surname, or
not changing married names.  You can also make this change
individually at the Marriage info window.

Hope this helps.

Dede

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just finished watching the video online for some of the new features of
 Legacy 7 and I love the inclusion of the married names in indexes etc which
 is relevant for the vast majority of marriages in my file. But haven't been
 able to download the program yet so I'm not able to check this out for
 myself but what I'm wondering is there a solution to or if, not any
 suggestions for work arounds for the following.

 I like more and more women have retained my maiden name on marriage. What
 I'm wondering does the program have a check box or something for each women
 that you can tick if name was not changed on marriage (which would then
 alter indexes etc) or if not what would LUG members suggest as a work around
 for this situation.

 Thanks in advance.

 Belinda



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