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-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:29 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Huh, I wonder what the mechanism is there assuming its HFCS 55?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Eric Roberts
ow
[mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
How could that be?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause
observation. I just try and avoid them when possible.
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:29 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Huh, I wonder what the mechanism is there assuming its HFCS 55?
On Jan 30, 2012
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:29 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Huh, I wonder what the mechanism is there assuming its HFCS 55?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote
]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
How could that be?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause the massive
spike that even small
What about falling asleep after meals? :-)
On 31 January 2012 20:32, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
One sure indicator of this is sweating after meals.
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Blood going to the digestive track instead of the brain and excessive
carbs also cause the body to produce melatonin, which makes you
sleepy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postprandial_somnolence
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
What about falling asleep after
critical word about it :-D
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good
:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Don't worry about HFCS ... Any more than any other sweetener that is.
It's just like cane sugar, beet sugar, maple sugar, agave sugar, etc etc.
They're all sugar: a mix of sucrose/fructose, usually about 50/50.
It's the fructose (without
or
if I have a glass of juice that is sweetened with HFCS.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:55 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
nuh uh, been down that road and couldn't figure out why I kept gaining
weight
I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause the massive spike
that even small amounts of HFCS cause.
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
You're right
[mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed
foods
go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily
organic,
and unless you read
definitely say yes to both, depending on the situation.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Are you just trying to illustrate
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Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed
foods
go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily
organic
Thanks Eric,
I did write about the bulking agents in Stevia in the article, but didn't
know about powdered extracts that are not bulked up. I'll have to check
that out. And you are right, I totally missed sucralose. I'll have to
revamp the article (or write a follow up), but unfortunately I'm
, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed
foods
go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily
organic,
and unless you read every single label and look
ps thanks for the heads up on amino sweet and corn sugar, will keep an eye
out for those as well. Although I am getting to the point where I don't
want to eat anything processed at all, period.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sandra Clark sclarkli...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Eric,
I did
a single critical word about it :-D
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
You're right - here's the key point from wiki on table sugar:
In humans and other mammals, sucrose is broken down into its constituent
monosaccharides,glucose and fructose
HFCS can really
Great blog post! Would love to read the GMO articles as well
On Jan 30, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Sandra Clark sclarkli...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Eric,
I did write about the bulking agents in Stevia in the article, but didn't
know about powdered extracts that are not bulked up. I'll have to
Posts happen on Tuesday mornings at 9:30 am. (since the blog is a labor of
love, it doesn't get the attention of a paying job). First post on GMO's
went up last week. The second in the series is scheduled for Feb 7th.
Sandy
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com
I know it is going to do any good.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting
processed
foods
go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily
organic,
and unless you read every single label and look up
: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to
eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of things I would enjoy
more
than tomato sauce ;) But I seem to remember reading that they were
starting
to call high fructose corn syrup
That is just my observation backed up by blood glucose readings
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
How could that be?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts
ow
I want to find a good local source and make some mead :-D
-Original Message-
From: Sandra Clark [mailto:sclarkli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Dana,
I can totally agree with the local honey. For the first time
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
How could that be?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause the massive
spike that even
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
You were both overweight and then both did something about it. So
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
And, no, it didn't take me 5 years to gain control. I had control the
moment I decided to take responsibility.
Point taken. It took five years to achieve control. Better?
Not really.
The point is, if you have to work for a
However many forms of obesity are not just a matter of eating properly
or exercising. Also like in many places if you have not learned what
is healthy and how to balance intake with exercise etc., and all your
food choices are unhealthy ones, then chances of becoming obese is
very good.
The
Also look at the contents of most fruit juices sold in the US - mostly sugar.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree. It is much more complicated than drinking fruit juice. Drinking
fruit juice isn't a weight-loss or a fitness plan. It's a drop in the ocean
need. So I would definitely say yes to both, depending
on the situation.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Are you just trying to illustrate that it's
I think you nailed it Gruss.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Limbaugh?? The dude is super wealthy and he's STILL a fatty? He could
afford the best chefs, the best equip, the best foods ...
Come on, if that guy is a fatty (or an addict) then he's
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
many forms of obesity are not just a matter of eating properly
or exercising.
That is always said in a way that makes people think like me. Bullshit.
Percentage-wise you've got a 99.99% chance of being fat because you
Gruss. This is not about me. I've lost 45 pounds this year, so I have an
idea what works for me. I have however had problems losing weight in the
past, sure, and have talked to quite a few people about theirs. Based on
that I tried to educate you a little, and ya, I should have known better.
II
I don't think I said there is one right way, there isn't, but maybe it didn't
come across right.
That said it is conceptually simple: eat less than you burn and you will lose
*weight*. That's it.
Doing it - executing - AND optimizing for body composition while earning a
living, working on
Before you said he's lazy and he doesn't have to work, yet he does.
He also lost weight and off the drugs.
Since you don't like him, probably because he's right more times than
you ever will be, you insult him by calling him a fatty. Do you not
see using that as an insult goes against the
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
Maybe, but ive far exceeded any accomplishment he'll ever have
On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Dune, you need to stop watching TV it messing up you mind.
Somehow that sentence makes me want to watch a LOT more TV.
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Actually... I kind of agree with Sam on this oneThe TV, that is, not so
much Rush. But now I know I need a nice cup of tea or something, lol.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Dune, you need
do
watch the labels when I know it is going to do any good.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed foods
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed
foods
go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily organic,
and unless you read every single label and look up every ingredient...I
just
noticed High fructose corn syrup
enough sleep. So it is not
very doable. If I were to work out right before bed, I wouldn't get much
sleep.
-Original Message-
From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Those are choices made out
You obviously don't have knee or hip issues...
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
This point is key: the misinformation is rampant.
That said, when I got
Corn Sugar...
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think
use meat in it. I have
yet to hear a single critical word about it :-D
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going
: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of things I would enjoy more
than tomato sauce ;) But I seem to remember reading that they were
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
This point is key: the misinformation is rampant.
That said, when I got to the point that I so disgusted myself I couldnt even
consider not taking action ... I did.
Quick synopsis:
At 255 I bought a stationary recumbent and got up to 2 hours a day. I
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of things I
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of things I would enjoy
more
than tomato sauce ;) But I seem
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I can think of things I would enjoy
more
than tomato sauce ;) But I seem to remember reading that they were
starting
to call high
Why are most social liberals really haters? So you pretend to love
gays and Muslims but in reality you mock everyone not like you. Heavy
people, drug dependent people, Blacks and Jews from what you said so
far. I bet everyone that's not the cause of the day from the TPM.
Grow up will you?
.
Tsk. That is disingenuous, Sam.
There is a difference between hating and being crassly honest.
I am guessing you already know that, though.
On 1/28/2012 11:14 AM, Sam wrote:
Why are most social liberals really haters? So you pretend to love
gays and Muslims but in reality you mock everyone
Sam's definition of haters is anyone who doesn't agree with him.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote:
Tsk. That is disingenuous, Sam.
There is a difference between hating and being crassly honest.
I am guessing you already know that, though.
Ignorance is not an excuse for hating people. But he probably
appreciates the backhanded attempt at defending him.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote:
Tsk. That is disingenuous, Sam.
There is a difference between hating and being crassly honest.
I am guessing you
Weren't you on his hit list for awhile?
Just saying.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Sam's definition of haters is anyone who doesn't agree with him.
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No...only ignoramuses like you Sam.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:14 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Why are most social liberals really haters? So you pretend to love gays and
Muslims but in reality
um... I don't think Gruss has a hit list, speaking as someone who's had
prolonged arguments with Grussat least there's a willingness there to
consider other points of view and sometimes even to reconsider an opinion.
That said, um yeah, I did think the remark about fatties just need to push
Whatever works ;)
That said, um yeah, I did think the remark about fatties just need to push
away from the table was a bit much.
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Gruss and I have often clashed over issues, but I don't consider that
type of discourse as hating. The only person here who gratuitously
makes personal attacks on others rather than attacking their opinions
or statements is you.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
My point is that that doesn't actually. Well, some people do just overeat,
I guess. A better question might be why. But even Gruss was once saying
that if you just quit eating the body goes into starvation mode and it all
becomes much much harder. So no, it really is not that simple. I am not
Obesity is such a complex problem that even those researchers who
specialize in it don't understand it completely. To sum up the
solution with push back from table only shows the ignorance of the
person making the comment. I don't know anyone who wants to be
fat.
However even as difficult as
hehe yep
However even as difficult as curing obesity is, it's still easier than
curing stupid.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
My point is that that doesn't actually. Well, some people do just
overeat,
I guess. A better question might be why. But
I did think the remark about fatties just need to push away from the table
was a bit much.
But referring to an overweight people as fatties isn't? Just sayin.
I have to agree with Gruss on this one though. Controlling your eating is
the best way not to become obese. Being overweight (in
If fatties knew how to lose weight, they probably would ;)
I think it's more accurate to say that if they were able to motivate
themselves they would lose weight. Surely every single person in the
Western world knows how to lose weight.
it was actually that word that I thought a bit offensive more than the
sentiment, which many express. I disagree with it, but fine. I did not
myself take issue with it, but once I found myself defending Gruss, I added
it in as a caveat. The statement, apparently the trigger for Sam's attack,
was
Yeah, there are at least a couple of hundred books in any bookstore on the
subject, right? Except that they mostly don't agree. And choices that might
seem to make sense - drinking fruit juice for example - make less than you
might think because of factors that might not occur to you, like high
Ah, well that's different then. :)
Having obese members of my family makes me less than thrilled with the term
fatties too.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
it was actually that word that I thought a bit offensive more than the
sentiment, which many
Actually, they don't. There is so much misinformation about weight
loss circulating that most people have no real idea of how to lose
weight beyond the standard exercise and eat right:. But when it
comes to defining what eating right means, even the experts
disagree. Over the last eight
I agree. It is much more complicated than drinking fruit juice. Drinking
fruit juice isn't a weight-loss or a fitness plan. It's a drop in the ocean
of what would need to happen to be in shape.
Who in the Western world truly doesn't know that eating and exercise habits
are the two biggest
We all know diet is only one leg of the stool. Yes, dietary guidelines
change over time and there's different theories. The other two legs of the
stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. Reasonable
portions and routine exercise.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Maureen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Who in the Western world truly doesn't know that eating and exercise habits
are the two biggest factors in having a healthy body? This has been common
knowledge since long before you or I were born.
Everyone is agreeing that
Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :)
See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate.
On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote:
The other two legs of the
stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. Reasonable
portions and routine exercise.
If you push away from the table while sitting on a one legged stool,
you're probably gonna fall down. Just sayin.
Judah
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote:
Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :)
See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate.
On
What I meant was, she was overweight a couple years back. GG hates
heavy people and has stated here many times. Just ask him about Rush.
That reminds me. He also hates addicts but want's drugs to be
legalized. See the social liberal contradiction?
Don't get stuck on the push away from the table
I call your views to the left of mainstream and you cry about personal
attacks. Yet almost every response to me is about how I can't think
for myself and can only parrot what extreme right-wing commentators
tell me say.
Do you still not see the irony there?
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM,
I didn't think I was attacking him as much as calling him a hypocrite.
It was constructive criticism intended for self evaluation rather than
an insult. If it was perceived as an insult I apologize.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
it was actually that
it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I am
saying.
Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some other reason,
may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining more but not
causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much
I see, I guess the Grow up will you made it an personal attack.
Sorry about that.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't think I was attacking him as much as calling him a hypocrite.
It was constructive criticism intended for self evaluation rather than
an
that you seem to be missing.
Not even close. We're talking about obesity, and you're talking
about cholesterol. Completely different topics entirely. Dana and Mo seemed
to be saying that people don't know how to lose weight. I said that's
false. Everyone knows how to lose weight. You chiming
it does, actually. Everyone assumes that extra weight correlates with high
blood pressure, cholesterol and diabetes. That is only sometimes true. I
understand the focus, because where it is it may be a preventable cause of
illness, but it's still only part of the picture.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at
Maybe we should go back to keeping score in kickball and soccer and
then the kids will actually try to win. That and limit video games.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
that you seem to be missing.
Not even close. We're talking about obesity, and you're
Everyone assumes that? I don't think that's true. You can be within your
target weight and have high blood pressure and/or high cholesterol. I don't
see what that has to do with the statement that people don't know how to
lose weight or with children being obese.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:24
Maybe we should go back to keeping score in kickball and soccer and then
the kids will actually try to win.
Marry me.
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, January 28, 2012 4:04 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
What I meant was, she was overweight a couple years back. GG hates heavy
people and has stated here many times. Just ask him about Rush.
That reminds me. He also hates addicts but want's drugs to be legalized. See
the social
this
opinion of you. That is what an intelligent person does anyhow.
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
I call your views to the left of mainstream and you cry about personal
attacks
Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise sufficiently due
to disabilities.
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From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the problem
or cannot exercise sufficiently due
to disabilities.
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From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I am
It's anecdotal of course, but that's my experience. I started to say
particularly the medical professionals, but that's probably not true --
they are just the ones I've started the conversation with. I imagine other
people think it but refrain from comment, rightly considering it not their
[mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I am
saying.
Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some other
reason,
may have
You make me laugh.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
That is not necessarily an insult but an observation...but one that should
also be taken as an insult and I would find it very insulting to be
considered little more than a parrot...and
: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I am
saying.
Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some other
reason,
may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining more but
not
causing them
Exactly...
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From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:56 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of debilitating
conditions won't put you in a wheelchair.
On Sat
On 1/28/2012 5:15 PM, Dana wrote:
I think you pretty much have to
exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and keep it
off.
I thought this was a given.
but you can't eat all fruit all of
the time and stay healthy.
and this
Before that, when I asked doctors, I got
-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all
I am saying.
Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some
other
reason,
may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining
more
metals. So
even if you have a healthy diet and exercise, you may not lose weight.
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From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Let me reverse that then D. What percentage
:
Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise
sufficiently
due
to disabilities.
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From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's
: Re: Obesity in Children
Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North
America
can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a significant
enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat right (ie.
lots of
veggies, not much fried
: Re: Obesity in Children
Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper
weight? Or are you saying we're powerless to stop obesity?
On 2012-01-28, at 7:00 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:
The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend
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