Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-04 Thread TP

I said special switch: it is a switch with ethernet ports and voice ports,
with the voice processor and its stack.
So, I can program the special switch in order to set the TOS (layer 3) per
port basis and the COS (layer 2) per port basis.
What happens to my packet (or frames) when I connect this switch to a router
(827 per adsl) or to a layer 3 catalyst for different design?


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  Subject: Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]


  I don't think you can set the ToS bits on a switch.  You can only set the
  CoS bit and the CoS will not be translated to a ToS on router unless you
  force it to in the configuration.  ToS is a layer 3 function and CoS is a
  layer 2 function


  From: TP
  Reply-To: TP
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: read and not write TOS [7:36946]
  Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:14:30 -0500
  
  Dear group,
  i have the following situation:
  a special switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet interface.
  This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
  I'd like to configure the router in order to have different queuing based
  on
  the TOS (two or three queues).
  The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze the
traffic
  with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list or
  samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
  Thanks in advance
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Re: CCNP Lab Rat [7:37130]

2002-03-04 Thread norco

i agree. that 'lab rat' bullshit has been created by cisco engineers fearful
of their status/positions because nowadays anyone get reasonable proficient
at cisco routing and switching - which SHOULD be the case!! I remember
people (and they still do) cryin' the frickin' blues beacuse people were
paper certified, and that they had no hands-on experience. Well, now that
they are getting hands-on experience albeit in a lab environment (which is
in some cases presents a more convoluted routing and switching environment
because it allows them to set the level of complexity depending on the
amount and type of lab equipment...phew - long comment) - they have the
audacity to label them 'lab rats' - honestly i think these fucks expect you
to be born with this knowledge!!

By all means get stuck into your lab - get your CCNP, go for the CCIE and
improve your standard of living - after all that's what this is all about -
don't let a bunch of narrow-minded, paranoid, tall-poppy syndrome minded
dicks dictate what you should or should not do.


B Rudy  wrote in message
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 Hey guys,

 I have been looking for a job for the past 8 months.  I decided to get
some
 professional Cisco training since the market was doing so badly. I have
read
 some message boards talking about CCIE lab rats, and how they are a
 disgrace.. I dont want to be looked at like that.   I have purchased a
year
 of training where I can utilize all the Cisco equipment they have on their
 premises.  I am going to be a lab rat for a while.. Will i be able to find
a
 job once i am a ccnp and proficcient with Cisco and their equipment?? That
 lab rat being a disgrace comment is totally absurd

 my bio:
 B.S in Telecommunications
 No experience in the field-but a lot in the labs
 CCDA
 CCNA
 Network+
 MCSE 2k
 LPI 1
 A+




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Re: CCIE strategy [7:37127]

2002-03-04 Thread David L. Blair

All answers can be found on Cisco's website.  If you do not have it already
get a CCO account!!!.  Goto
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html  Has
the answers you are wanting except for strategy.  I see training the same
way you build a house.  Lay the Foundation FIRST.  Without a good foundation
the house will not stand the test of time.  I think the Foundation will also
reinforce your perceived strengths and weaknesses.  At this point, I would
spend the bulk of your time with the weaker area and still spend time
shapening your strengths.

My $0.02 worth


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, CIW Associate, A+, 3Wizard





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 I have decided to proceed with working on my written CCIE.  I was
wondering
 what gameplans any of you already certified CCIE's took.  Did you start on
 some of your weaker topics, or start from general reading then narrow to
the
 specific? Did you just read from a recommended reading list,etc...?  The
 reason I'm asking is that I want to make sure I cover all my bases and all
 the test's topics.

 Does anyone have a recommended reading list or should I just do a search
on
 CCIE at CiscoPress and read them all?

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Re: CID exam has changed [7:37074]

2002-03-04 Thread Michael J. Doherty

I also took it last week, after 2/25/02, and noticed no changes from the
objective list prior to the date that you have stated.  While there are some
changes on the objectives listed on the website, now, ATM  ATM LANE are
still mentioned as objective categorys.


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RE: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]

2002-03-04 Thread Chuck Collins

I wouldn't upgrade the IOS.  We had a 3550 that was doing the same thing
(GBIC not blinking at all). We called into TAC and got a replacement.
We did the upgrade first and when the switch would boot it would no
recognize the Ethernet controller.  It may be different for you since
you have a 3508.  I guess you would need to ask yourself do I feel
lucky?

Good Luck,

Chuck Collins
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Subject: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]


Dear all
I need clarification regarding these two points thanking your help in
proceed, 

First point: 
We have Catalyst 3508G XL , 8 GBIC slots ,  12.0(5.2)XU IOS software. We
tried to make operate it but the GBIC was not blinking at all , as I had
read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/1000gbic/ins
tnot
e.htm , I got conclusion that the switches detect and enable the GBIC
only
when they are running the minimum software releases which  in case of
Catalyst 3508G XL  Cisco the minimum IOS Release is  12.0(5)XW , so in
order
to enable the GBIC we have to upgrade the IOS software from 12.0(5.2)XU
to
12.0(5)XW .

Second point:
we have Catalyst 2950T-24 Switch-24 10/100 ports and 2 fixed
10/100/1000BaseT uplink ports, IOS available 12.0(5.3)WC(1).
As I had read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2950/2950_wc/1169
303.
htm , I got conclusion that we do not have to upgrade the ios image
because
the ios will support the following: Catalyst 2950T-24
24 fixed autosensing 10/100 ports and
2 fixed autosensing 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports.

please tell me if there is something missing here , the equipment is
placed
far away from our office we need to put the network on there  as soon as
possible , in case we have to upgrade the ios of the any platform then
please let us go ahead solving this issue.

Warm regards, 
Ismail Al-shelh
Network Engineer

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basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread bergenpeak

1) A loopback address is normally advertised by OSPF as a host route.
The command ip ospf network point-to-point enables one to specify
that the interface should be advertised as a subnet route.  What are
the benefits for doing this?

2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

3) In the Exstart phase, how is the master selected?  Chappel's
book says RID while Doyle's say highest interface IP address.  Which
is it?

4) I'm somewhat unclear on the Exchange and the Loading states.  When
a router goes into Exchange state, does it send all DDPs it knows
about before processing any DDPs received from other adjancent
neighbors?
Thus, a router goes into Exchange state, sends all DDPs it knows about,
then goes into Loading state, where it issues LSRs for LSAs it wants
more
details on?  Is this the process?   

5) Is there a difference between DBD and DDP packets?

Thanks




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RE: Cisco 1924 Switch Problem [7:37058]

2002-03-04 Thread Woods, Randall, SOLCM

Have you tried restoring the switch to it's default settings? go to this
link
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/pswdrec_2800.shtml

When you go thru the Password recovery procedures, the switch will
default to 9600,8N1
I believe also, their may be a little reset button on the back of the
switch next to
the console port that has a reset button to reset the port to 9600,8N1.
You could try that as well to make sure. Hope that helps.

Woody
CCNP

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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco 1924 Switch Problem [7:37058]


Best to go with an adapter:
See pinout:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/6700/iad1101/ca
ble.htm#xtocid296711

Martijn Jansen


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mac address searcher [7:37143]

2002-03-04 Thread steve skinner

Guys,

you assistance if you please..

i am looking for a new tool to help me automate a task...

i work for a global company with multiple it teams,who like to move multiple 
it servers willy-nilly...

i suppport the switches 65`s but due to politics i am not allowed to set 
port secuirty on them...

is there any tool out there that will queiry a cisco switch and tell me if 
it has a MAC record in its cam table..

i have got 60 65`s in 18 different MAN locations...and christ knows how many 
servers...

it`s just i am lazy and dont want to keep typing

Sh ip arp and sh cam dyn all the time...

any help would be great.

TIA

steve

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Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread Richard Newman

With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
(sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
Alltel




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hey norco [7:37146]

2002-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hey norco...that was a great post..ye..those guys who brought up the term
lab rats
really think that you should have been born with that knowledge.
apart from that, yes its all about improving your standard of living and a
lot more
things exterior to one's work.
cya.

norco wrote:

 i agree. that 'lab rat' bullshit has been created by cisco engineers
fearful
 of their status/positions because nowadays anyone get reasonable proficient
 at cisco routing and switching - which SHOULD be the case!! I remember
 people (and they still do) cryin' the frickin' blues beacuse people were
 paper certified, and that they had no hands-on experience. Well, now that
 they are getting hands-on experience albeit in a lab environment (which is
 in some cases presents a more convoluted routing and switching environment
 because it allows them to set the level of complexity depending on the
 amount and type of lab equipment...phew - long comment) - they have the
 audacity to label them 'lab rats' - honestly i think these fucks expect you
 to be born with this knowledge!!

 By all means get stuck into your lab - get your CCNP, go for the CCIE and
 improve your standard of living - after all that's what this is all about -
 don't let a bunch of narrow-minded, paranoid, tall-poppy syndrome minded
 dicks dictate what you should or should not do.

 B Rudy  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hey guys,
 
  I have been looking for a job for the past 8 months.  I decided to get
 some
  professional Cisco training since the market was doing so badly. I have
 read
  some message boards talking about CCIE lab rats, and how they are a
  disgrace.. I dont want to be looked at like that.   I have purchased a
 year
  of training where I can utilize all the Cisco equipment they have on
their
  premises.  I am going to be a lab rat for a while.. Will i be able to
find
 a
  job once i am a ccnp and proficcient with Cisco and their equipment??
That
  lab rat being a disgrace comment is totally absurd
 
  my bio:
  B.S in Telecommunications
  No experience in the field-but a lot in the labs
  CCDA
  CCNA
  Network+
  MCSE 2k
  LPI 1
  A+




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Re: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

too good man..
those numbers are real growing now..
good job.
congrats

Richard Newman wrote:

 With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
 (sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
 Thanks to all those who helped along the way.

 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
 Alltel




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RE: ISP Question [7:37006]

2002-03-04 Thread Brian Zeitz

OK, well first let me explain my idea for an ISP isn't to sell dial up,
or internet access. I already sell devices that use a dial up. I work
for a company so they worry about the business plan. I already checked
out where to buy a block of IP addresses, the min you can buy direct is
/20 or 4096 public IPs. I know it sounds like a strange idea for you to
start my own ISP. Also I wanted to mention that Cisco press is coming
out with a new book about Starting an ISP ISP Essentials in April. I
am trying to find more out about the book. I know it has a lot of stuff
about the features of IOS for ISPs. I guess the book is really what I
need. I would also need my own ASN. The /20 block of registered IPs
would not be routable, I assume because they are not attached to anyones
ASN. So I would have to register my own ASN. And of course I would need
a connection to an ISP backbone. Please don't think I am Ignorant and
think it is as easy as buying a few routers. I am trying to come up with
an estimate for how much it would cost to start an ISP. Like for
instance the block of IPs would be $3000 a year, another cost would be
the modem board, the routers etc. Thanks for your help.

-Original Message-
From: Schneider, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISP Question [7:37006]

I'm in

-Original Message-
From: Craig Columbus
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/3/2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: ISP Question [7:37006]

Ok, I'll bite...

Don't start buying equipment yet.  The technical component of an ISP is 
only one very small part of a big picture.  If you're seriously thinking

about starting an ISP, you first need to write a business plan that 
delineates your idea, your potential market, your competition, your 
management team, your organizational structure, your cashflow analysis, 
your initial funding, and your exit strategy.  This includes a full and 
honest SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats) 
analysis.  Once you've refined your plan, show it to people who know a
lot 
more about running a business than you do.  Go visit SCORE (look them up
in 
the phone book) and be prepared to rewrite everything you've written.
Once 
you've got a final product, then you're going to need funding.
Remember, 
you need to account for more than the technical equipment.  You'll have
to 
consider rents, leases, insurance, utilities, payroll, taxes, etc.  Once

you've got the funding, you can bring on qualified management and
engineers 
(read experienced in this field) and let them decide on the particular 
equipment you'll need.
If this sounds like too much to tackle, then you're not ready to run
your 
own business.  On the other hand, if you're financially well off (rich)
and 
are determined to go forward anyway, I'll be glad to walk you down the
path 
for a fee. ;-)

Good luck,
Craig

At 02:35 PM 3/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Does anyone have a list of equipment for a company to become and ISP? I
also want to buy a class of IP addresses and host them myself. Is there
a link on Cisco to help someone like myself get started. Any help on
this topic would be appreciated. I really don't know where to start





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Re: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread James Haynes

Congratulations.

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Richard Newman  wrote in message
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 With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
 (sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
 Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
 Alltel




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2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet connection [7:37150]

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Dickson

I have a 2501 router whose console (and aux) port doesn't respond when
connected to a 2511 and accessed via reverse telnet.  The 2511 reports the
connection is open, but I never get back a prompt from the 2501.  The
console port works when directly connected to the serial port of my laptop.
Also, I've switched cables between the problem 2501 and other routers in my
lab, and the problem follows the 2501, not the cable nor the line on the
2511.  I've tried the 'clear line #' command, but it doesn't help.

Any ideas?

TIA

Mike Dickson
MCSE+Internet, MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP
Dickson Network Designs
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RE: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Richard,

Pretty awesome to pass the first attempt - way to go!

Ole

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]


With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
(sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
Alltel




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any comment please [7:37154]

2002-03-04 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh

Hello all
I have Catalyst 3508G XL , 8 GBIC slots ,  12.0(5.2)XU IOS software. We
tried to make operate it but the GBIC was not blinking at all , as I had
read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/1000gbic/instnot
e.htm , I got conclusion that the switches detect and enable the GBIC only
when they are running the minimum software releases which  in case of
Catalyst 3508G XL  Cisco the minimum IOS Release is  12.0(5)XW , so in order
to enable the GBIC we have to upgrade the IOS software from 12.0(5.2)XU  to
12.0(5)XW .
any comment please !!!
Al-shelh 
Network Engineer.

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Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Steven A. Ridder

1. Hopefully someone else will tell you the answer to this one as I have no
idea what the benefit is.

2.  The cost dosen't have to be the same.  The router will report it's own
calculated cost to the neighbor based on it's cost because it's directly
connected to it.  So if you have:

RA--RB (s0)--(s0) RC (e0)___|

If router C considers it's S0 link to be a cost of 2 and Router B
considers the same link to be 1000, then RA will receive link to be based on
RB's calculation.  But router A will receive Router C's e0 link as based on
the cost of Rc's calculation of the link.

3.  According to RFC 2328, it's the router ID which is used in the
master/slave determination.  I tested it and it is the Router ID.

4.  I believe you are correct in your explanation.

5.  I believe they both mean Database Descriptor Packet.

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bergenpeak  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 1) A loopback address is normally advertised by OSPF as a host route.
 The command ip ospf network point-to-point enables one to specify
 that the interface should be advertised as a subnet route.  What are
 the benefits for doing this?

 2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
 link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

 3) In the Exstart phase, how is the master selected?  Chappel's
 book says RID while Doyle's say highest interface IP address.  Which
 is it?

 4) I'm somewhat unclear on the Exchange and the Loading states.  When
 a router goes into Exchange state, does it send all DDPs it knows
 about before processing any DDPs received from other adjancent
 neighbors?
 Thus, a router goes into Exchange state, sends all DDPs it knows about,
 then goes into Loading state, where it issues LSRs for LSAs it wants
 more
 details on?  Is this the process?

 5) Is there a difference between DBD and DDP packets?

 Thanks




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RE: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]

2002-03-04 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

I don't believe that it's the IOS on the 3508. First, check to make sure
your fiber is connected correctly. When the switch is powered up, you can
see which side the laser is on in the GBIC connector. Then, if you cup the
fiber in your hands, briefly (very briefly) look to see which connector the
laser is on. Then make sure that the connector with the laser goes to the
connector on the switch without the laser. If this isn't the problem,
there's a good chance it's probably a bad GBIC.

Shawn K.

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Subject: RE: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]


I wouldn't upgrade the IOS.  We had a 3550 that was doing the same thing
(GBIC not blinking at all). We called into TAC and got a replacement. We did
the upgrade first and when the switch would boot it would no recognize the
Ethernet controller.  It may be different for you since you have a 3508.  I
guess you would need to ask yourself do I feel lucky?

Good Luck,

Chuck Collins
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Dear all
I need clarification regarding these two points thanking your help in
proceed, 

First point: 
We have Catalyst 3508G XL , 8 GBIC slots ,  12.0(5.2)XU IOS software. We
tried to make operate it but the GBIC was not blinking at all , as I had
read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/1000gbic/ins
tnot
e.htm , I got conclusion that the switches detect and enable the GBIC only
when they are running the minimum software releases which  in case of
Catalyst 3508G XL  Cisco the minimum IOS Release is  12.0(5)XW , so in order
to enable the GBIC we have to upgrade the IOS software from 12.0(5.2)XU to
12.0(5)XW .

Second point:
we have Catalyst 2950T-24 Switch-24 10/100 ports and 2 fixed
10/100/1000BaseT uplink ports, IOS available 12.0(5.3)WC(1). As I had read
this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2950/2950_wc/1169
303.
htm , I got conclusion that we do not have to upgrade the ios image because
the ios will support the following: Catalyst 2950T-24 24 fixed autosensing
10/100 ports and 2 fixed autosensing 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports.

please tell me if there is something missing here , the equipment is placed
far away from our office we need to put the network on there  as soon as
possible , in case we have to upgrade the ios of the any platform then
please let us go ahead solving this issue.

Warm regards, 
Ismail Al-shelh
Network Engineer

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RE: ISP Question [7:37006]

2002-03-04 Thread Craig Columbus

Brian,

There are a million things to consider about setting up an ISP before you 
even need a book like ISP Essentials.  Knowing how to setup redundancy and 
shape traffic is great, but it's really not at the top of the priority list 
when talking about setting up something as complex as an ISP that'll serve 
thousands of customers (you will have thousands right?  I mean you're not 
going to waste a /20?).

Before you can begin estimating your technical costs, you first need to 
define your target market.  Will you have 10 customers or 10,000,000?  Are 
you looking more at a traditional ISP model of providing Internet access 
(your note says no at the beginning, but you mention modem board at the 
end, so I'm not clear) or are you looking more at an ASP model where you're 
only concerned about providing applications?
I guess what I'm saying is that there is no cookie cutter approach to 
building an ISP, ASP, or any other business.  Only after you've fully 
defined your operational parameters can you start filling in the 
blanks.  It's like asking, How much will it cost me to build an 
airplane?.  There's really no easy answer to the question.
Rough cost areas to think about in terms of an ISP are:
IP space
ASN Registration
Physical space (NOC rents/leases)
Equipment costs (routers (12000 series or 2600 series?), switches (6509 or 
2924?), servers, perf monitors/tools, etc.)
Bandwidth costs (T1 or OC48?)
Personnel costs
Helpdesk costs
Licensing / membership costs
Insurance costs
Marketing costs (even if you're only providing intracompany services, there 
will be costs here)
Legal costs
Etc.
You may want to head over to NANOG (http://www.nanog.org/resources.html) 
and look through some of the ISP resources to fill in some of the blanks.

I hope this helps.

Craig




At 09:22 AM 3/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
OK, well first let me explain my idea for an ISP isn't to sell dial up,
or internet access. I already sell devices that use a dial up. I work
for a company so they worry about the business plan. I already checked
out where to buy a block of IP addresses, the min you can buy direct is
/20 or 4096 public IPs. I know it sounds like a strange idea for you to
start my own ISP. Also I wanted to mention that Cisco press is coming
out with a new book about Starting an ISP ISP Essentials in April. I
am trying to find more out about the book. I know it has a lot of stuff
about the features of IOS for ISPs. I guess the book is really what I
need. I would also need my own ASN. The /20 block of registered IPs
would not be routable, I assume because they are not attached to anyones
ASN. So I would have to register my own ASN. And of course I would need
a connection to an ISP backbone. Please don't think I am Ignorant and
think it is as easy as buying a few routers. I am trying to come up with
an estimate for how much it would cost to start an ISP. Like for
instance the block of IPs would be $3000 a year, another cost would be
the modem board, the routers etc. Thanks for your help.

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Subject: RE: ISP Question [7:37006]

I'm in

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/3/2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: ISP Question [7:37006]

Ok, I'll bite...

Don't start buying equipment yet.  The technical component of an ISP is
only one very small part of a big picture.  If you're seriously thinking

about starting an ISP, you first need to write a business plan that
delineates your idea, your potential market, your competition, your
management team, your organizational structure, your cashflow analysis,
your initial funding, and your exit strategy.  This includes a full and
honest SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats)
analysis.  Once you've refined your plan, show it to people who know a
lot
more about running a business than you do.  Go visit SCORE (look them up
in
the phone book) and be prepared to rewrite everything you've written.
Once
you've got a final product, then you're going to need funding.
Remember,
you need to account for more than the technical equipment.  You'll have
to
consider rents, leases, insurance, utilities, payroll, taxes, etc.  Once

you've got the funding, you can bring on qualified management and
engineers
(read experienced in this field) and let them decide on the particular
equipment you'll need.
If this sounds like too much to tackle, then you're not ready to run
your
own business.  On the other hand, if you're financially well off (rich)
and
are determined to go forward anyway, I'll be glad to walk you down the
path
for a fee. ;-)

Good luck,
Craig

At 02:35 PM 3/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 Does anyone have a list of equipment for a company to become and ISP? I
 also want to buy a class of IP addresses and host them myself. Is there
 a link on Cisco to help someone like myself get started. Any help on
 this topic 

Re: any comment please [7:37154]

2002-03-04 Thread Audy Bautista

The software you're running is fine.  I don't think Cisco would sell an 8
port Gig switch with software that doesn't support GBIC.  We have a few of
those switches in our environment running the same software and they work
fine. How are you trunking the ports?  What are you connecting the ports to,
one port to your distribution layer switch and the other ports straight into
servers?

Audy


Ismail Al-Shelh  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Hello all
 I have Catalyst 3508G XL , 8 GBIC slots ,  12.0(5.2)XU IOS software. We
 tried to make operate it but the GBIC was not blinking at all , as I had
 read this document

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/1000gbic/instnot
 e.htm , I got conclusion that the switches detect and enable the GBIC only
 when they are running the minimum software releases which  in case of
 Catalyst 3508G XL  Cisco the minimum IOS Release is  12.0(5)XW , so in
order
 to enable the GBIC we have to upgrade the IOS software from 12.0(5.2)XU
to
 12.0(5)XW .
 any comment please !!!
 Al-shelh
 Network Engineer.

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Re: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet [7:37160]

2002-03-04 Thread Phil Barker

Have you got login enabled and transport input all
enabled.

Phil.
 

--- Mike Dickson  wrote:  I
have a 2501 router whose console (and aux) port
 doesn't respond when
 connected to a 2511 and accessed via reverse telnet.
  The 2511 reports the
 connection is open, but I never get back a prompt
 from the 2501.  The
 console port works when directly connected to the
 serial port of my laptop.
 Also, I've switched cables between the problem 2501
 and other routers in my
 lab, and the problem follows the 2501, not the cable
 nor the line on the
 2511.  I've tried the 'clear line #' command, but it
 doesn't help.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 TIA
 
 Mike Dickson
 MCSE+Internet, MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP
 Dickson Network Designs
 voice (512)-422-3192  fax (512) 394-0320
 www.dicksonnetworks.com
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DLSw+ and SDLC Port Lists [7:37159]

2002-03-04 Thread John Neiberger

I have a problem that needs a temporary fix.  At one of our branches we
have four attached SDLC devices and I need to use one dlsw peer for one
device and a different peer for the other three.  At first I thought
this was easy and I'd use a port list.  Well, it appears that the use of
the word 'list' in the name 'port list' is deceiving because you can
only have one port listed!   At least that's how it appears.

So, I can't create one list for the single device and a different list
for the other three.  I'm wondering if I can do the following:

dlsw port-list 1 s4
dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.1
dlsw remote-peer 1 tcp 10.2.2.2

Will this work the way I think it will?  Since the '0' in the first
list includes all ports I'm not sure if this would be a valid
configuration.  

Any thoughts?  This is only for disaster recovery testing and will only
be necessary for a few hours, but if I can't figure out how to do
something like this I'll have to take all of the SDLC devices at the
branch down while we do testing.  I'd rather just take one device down.

Thanks,
John




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RE: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet [7:37161]

2002-03-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Make sure the flow-control (on your hyperterminal) is set to NONE, and not
HARDWARE.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet connection
[7:37150]


I have a 2501 router whose console (and aux) port doesn't respond when
connected to a 2511 and accessed via reverse telnet.  The 2511 reports the
connection is open, but I never get back a prompt from the 2501.  The
console port works when directly connected to the serial port of my laptop.
Also, I've switched cables between the problem 2501 and other routers in my
lab, and the problem follows the 2501, not the cable nor the line on the
2511.  I've tried the 'clear line #' command, but it doesn't help.

Any ideas?

TIA

Mike Dickson
MCSE+Internet, MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP
Dickson Network Designs
voice (512)-422-3192  fax (512) 394-0320
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RE: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Moffett, Ryan

Someone else has tackled the others, I go after #1):

As you probably already know, in a lab setting, loopbacks are great for
building up fictional stub networks to be used in reachability testing and
summarization/filtering scenarios.   For example, you can create interface
loopback0 with an ip address of 10.1.1.1/24.   By default, in OSPF, this
loopback interface's network would be advertised as 10.1.1.1/32 even though
you have specified the /24 mask.   This makes for some confusion.   If you
specify on the loopback interface OSPF network type as point-to-point, it
will force the /24 advertisement to be made instead of the /32.   This makes
the loopback interfaces appear to be just another stub network (not to be
confused with OSPF stub area). 

Ryan

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]


1) A loopback address is normally advertised by OSPF as a host route.
The command ip ospf network point-to-point enables one to specify
that the interface should be advertised as a subnet route.  What are
the benefits for doing this?

2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

3) In the Exstart phase, how is the master selected?  Chappel's
book says RID while Doyle's say highest interface IP address.  Which
is it?

4) I'm somewhat unclear on the Exchange and the Loading states.  When
a router goes into Exchange state, does it send all DDPs it knows
about before processing any DDPs received from other adjancent
neighbors?
Thus, a router goes into Exchange state, sends all DDPs it knows about,
then goes into Loading state, where it issues LSRs for LSAs it wants
more
details on?  Is this the process?   

5) Is there a difference between DBD and DDP packets?

Thanks




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RE: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet [7:37163]

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Dickson

The asynch line configuration on the 2511:
line 1 16
 no exec
 modem InOut
 transport input all

The console config on all of my lab routers, including the problem router:
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0

The other routers work just fine; this one doesn't.  Moreover, the problem
router works fine if I'm using a direct connection between a computer's
serial port and the console, but doesn't when using a connection to the
2511.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Mike Dickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet
connection [7:37150]


Have you got login enabled and transport input all
enabled.

Phil.


--- Mike Dickson  wrote:  I
have a 2501 router whose console (and aux) port
 doesn't respond when
 connected to a 2511 and accessed via reverse telnet.
  The 2511 reports the
 connection is open, but I never get back a prompt
 from the 2501.  The
 console port works when directly connected to the
 serial port of my laptop.
 Also, I've switched cables between the problem 2501
 and other routers in my
 lab, and the problem follows the 2501, not the cable
 nor the line on the
 2511.  I've tried the 'clear line #' command, but it
 doesn't help.

 Any ideas?

 TIA

 Mike Dickson
 MCSE+Internet, MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP
 Dickson Network Designs
 voice (512)-422-3192  fax (512) 394-0320
 www.dicksonnetworks.com
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FW: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet [7:37165]

2002-03-04 Thread Gyorfy, Shawn

-Original Message-
From: Gyorfy, Shawn 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:34 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet connection
[7:37150]

^^x

CTRL+SHIFT+6 And X

Disconnect 1


- check out the term, make sure baud rate and flow are set correctly on the
2511.

Show terminal 
shawn

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:27 AM
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[7:37150]


- Original Message -
From: Mike Dickson 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:47 AM
Subject: 2501 console port doesn't respond to reverse telnet connection
[7:37150]


 I have a 2501 router whose console (and aux) port doesn't respond when
 connected to a 2511 and accessed via reverse telnet.  The 2511 reports the
 connection is open, but I never get back a prompt from the 2501.  The
 console port works when directly connected to the serial port of my
laptop.
 Also, I've switched cables between the problem 2501 and other routers in
my
 lab, and the problem follows the 2501, not the cable nor the line on the
 2511.  I've tried the 'clear line #' command, but it doesn't help.

 Any ideas?

 TIA

 Mike Dickson
 MCSE+Internet, MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP
 Dickson Network Designs
 voice (512)-422-3192  fax (512) 394-0320
 www.dicksonnetworks.com




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RE: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman

Congrats Richard...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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Richard Newman
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 6:14 AM
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Subject: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]


With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
(sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
Alltel




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Help with AS5224 remove dhcp settings. [7:37167]

2002-03-04 Thread fartcatcher

Hello everyone, we have a AS5224 that is working quite well. I have setup a 
RADIUS server which is controlling the passwords only. I want the RAIDUS 
sever to give out ips based on user ids. How do I remove the dhcp settings 
from the AS5224? I have tried 'no local pool dial 10.x.x.100 10.x.x.253' 
followed by a 'no peer default ip address pool dial'. Is that all I have to 
do?

Thanks,
FC




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RE: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread Richard Botham

Richard,
Top Man - really well done - 1st go aswell.
lets just hope I get the same result in Brussels on Thursday


Well done again

Regards

Richard



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RE: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread Bond, Jeffrey T

Job well done!  I know you mentioned OJT, did that come from your associates
at ALLTEL?

Jeff

 Jeffrey Bond, CCNP, MCSE
 Technology Solutions Engineer
 NCR Corporation 
 Global Network Services
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From: Richard Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]


With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
(sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
Alltel




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RE: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Congratulations!

Pierre-Alex

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Richard Newman
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:14 AM
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With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
(sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
Alltel




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DLSw+ and SDLC Port lists, Part 2 [7:37168]

2002-03-04 Thread John Neiberger

Please ignore the last post, I'm just being a dork again.  :-)

I thought the usage of the dlsw port list command was like this:

dlsw port-list 1 s1
dlsw port-list 1 s2

That does not work and I end up with a one-entry port list.  The actual
usage should be like this:

dlsw port-list 1 s1 s2

This solves my problem.  I even quickly looked through the command
reference and didn't notice that additional ports could be added on one
line.

Thanks,
John




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Re: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread MJ

GEEAT JOB!

(say it like Tony the tiger)

Richard Newman  wrote in message
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 With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
 (sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
 Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
 Alltel




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Re: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-04 Thread MJ

Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
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 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
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  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]

2002-03-04 Thread Audy Bautista

Hi all.

I'm taking my CCIE written this afternoon and I'm wondering if there's a lot
of ATM questions on the exam?  I'm doing some heavy cramming so I just want
to know if I should concentrate on ATM.

Any other tips would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Audy




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Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]

2002-03-04 Thread Matt Fisher

I'm trying to setup a Cat 6500 running IOS 12.1 (c6sup22-dsv-mz.121-8a.E5)
as a layer two switch and I'm running into some issues.  I have a group of
ports all on the same vlan, with switchport set to enable them as layer 2
switch ports.  Directed IP traffic flows fine, but broadcast traffic is not
flowing between the ports.

The short story of the problem.  In this test environment I have 5 NT
servers plugged into the Cat 6500 and they can't see each other view
Network Neighborhood.

My current goal is to just get this switch to act like your basic unmanaged
switch (I'll work on the more interesting settings after I get this basic
functionality working.)

Any ideas what I might be missing?

Matt




! Example of the current configuration:

interface FastEthernet2/1
 no ip address
 switchport
!
interface FastEthernet2/2
 no ip address
 switchport
! 
interface Vlan1
 ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip route-cache cef
 no ip mroute-cache


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Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 08:59 AM 3/4/02, bergenpeak wrote:
1) A loopback address is normally advertised by OSPF as a host route.
The command ip ospf network point-to-point enables one to specify
that the interface should be advertised as a subnet route.  What are
the benefits for doing this?

I can't imagine any benefits. Where did you find this info??

I do see some mention in RFC 2328 of using a host versus a subnet for the 
Link ID. On point-to-point networks, if the neighbor's IP address is 
known, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link to the neighbor's IP address, and 
the Link Data
to the mask 0x (indicating a host route) If a subnet has been 
assigned to the point-to-point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link to 
the subnet's IP address, and the Link Data to the subnet's mask...


2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

I couldn't find anything in RFC 2328 that says that two routers connected 
to a link MUST agree on the cost. The RFC writers use the term MUST 
carefully. If it were required, they would put it in the RFC.

I think it would be a good idea to make them agree, though


3) In the Exstart phase, how is the master selected?  Chappel's
book says RID while Doyle's say highest interface IP address.  Which
is it?

The router with the higher Router ID becomes the master.


4) I'm somewhat unclear on the Exchange and the Loading states.  When
a router goes into Exchange state, does it send all DDPs it knows
about before processing any DDPs received from other adjancent
neighbors?

I think so, but I've never thought about the database synchronization 
issues associated with a router that is a neighbor to many routers. My 
guess is that it can only be in the exchange state with one router at a 
time. Otherwise it would be exchanging database info with one router as the 
info was being updated  by another router??

Thus, a router goes into Exchange state, sends all DDPs it knows about,
then goes into Loading state, where it issues LSRs for LSAs it wants
more
details on?  Is this the process?

Sounds right. See the RFC for the details.


5) Is there a difference between DBD and DDP packets?

I would avoid the term DDP, since it means Datagram Delivery Protocol to 
AppleTalk people. ;-)


Thanks


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Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread Gaz

Hi all,

Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
address on the same port (80) in some way.
Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed and
use the single address outside to single inside.
The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
propagate.
I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find it
whilst playing about today.

Any ideas welcome.

Thanks,

Gaz




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Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 03:11 AM 3/4/02, TP wrote:
I said special switch: it is a switch with ethernet ports and voice ports,
with the voice processor and its stack.
So, I can program the special switch in order to set the TOS (layer 3) per
port basis and the COS (layer 2) per port basis.
What happens to my packet (or frames) when I connect this switch to a router
(827 per adsl) or to a layer 3 catalyst for different design?

What do you want to happen to the packets? Cisco supports so many Quality 
of Service (QoS) features, it's hard to answer your question! For example, 
although IP Precedence is not a queuing method, queuing methods such as 
weighted fair queuing (WFQ) and Weighted Random Early Detection (WRED) can 
use the IP Precedence setting of the packet in the TOS field to prioritize 
traffic. Committed Access Rate (CAR) can also use the IP Precedence.

Cisco also supports the newer meanings for TOS (that is the Differentiated 
Services bits).

Anyway, you probably haven't gotten a good answer from us because Cisco 
makes all of this so complicated, it's hard to give a simple answer. ;-)

You should start by skimming the Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions 
Configuration Guide here:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos_c/index.htm

I don't know much about the 827 router. Hopefully it can do everything a 
bigger router could do. If not, check its specific documentation for QoS 
configuration information. Good luck. Let us know how it goes. Thanks.

Priscilla



- Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:05 PM
   Subject: Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]


   I don't think you can set the ToS bits on a switch.  You can only set the
   CoS bit and the CoS will not be translated to a ToS on router unless you
   force it to in the configuration.  ToS is a layer 3 function and CoS is a
   layer 2 function


   From: TP
   Reply-To: TP
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: read and not write TOS [7:36946]
   Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:14:30 -0500
   
   Dear group,
   i have the following situation:
   a special switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet interface.
   This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
   I'd like to configure the router in order to have different queuing
based
   on
   the TOS (two or three queues).
   The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze the
traffic
   with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list or
   samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
   Thanks in advance
   Teresa
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Re: mac address searcher [7:37143]

2002-03-04 Thread Sasa Milic

CiscoWorks/Campus Manager knows to do that.

Sasa
CCIE #8635

steve skinner wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 you assistance if you please..
 
 i am looking for a new tool to help me automate a task...
 
 i work for a global company with multiple it teams,who like to move
multiple
 it servers willy-nilly...
 
 i suppport the switches 65`s but due to politics i am not allowed to set
 port secuirty on them...
 
 is there any tool out there that will queiry a cisco switch and tell me if
 it has a MAC record in its cam table..
 
 i have got 60 65`s in 18 different MAN locations...and christ knows how
many
 servers...
 
 it`s just i am lazy and dont want to keep typing
 
 Sh ip arp and sh cam dyn all the time...
 
 any help would be great.
 
 TIA
 
 steve
 
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RE: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]

2002-03-04 Thread Woods, Randall, SOLCM

I think I had about 2 maybe 3 questions last Thursday.

Woody
CCNP

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From: Audy Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]


Hi all.

I'm taking my CCIE written this afternoon and I'm wondering if there's a
lot
of ATM questions on the exam?  I'm doing some heavy cramming so I just
want
to know if I should concentrate on ATM.

Any other tips would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Audy




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RE: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

If you really want to create a loophole so you can telnet into the firewall
from the outside, and you do not want to create a secure connection to it,
you can place a dummy router (or other telnet ready device) on the inside,
allow telnet to it from the outside, allow the device to telnet to the PIX,
telnet to it and reverse telnet back to the PIX.

Hth,

Ole

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 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
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-Original Message-
From: MJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX questions [7:37129]


Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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RE: PIX questions [7:37129]

2002-03-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

If you really want to create a loophole so you can telnet into the firewall
from the outside, and you do not want to create a secure connection to it,
you can place a dummy router (or other telnet ready device) on the inside,
allow telnet to it from the outside, allow the device to telnet to the PIX,
telnet to it and reverse telnet back to the PIX.

Hth,

Ole

~~~
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 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
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~~~
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 http://www.oledrews.com/job
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-Original Message-
From: MJ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX questions [7:37129]


Hunt/Swapnil - You can not telnet to the outside interface.  You will need
to configure SSH.

Swapnil Jain  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 u dont need to add a conduit for telnet unless u have blocked port 23.

 just add
 telnet ip_address [netmask] [if_name]

 to allow telnet from ip_address

 bye swapnil

 Hunt Lee  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hi all,
 
  I have two questions about PIX 501, it would be great if someone can
shed
  some light on this:
 
  1)Currently, I'm using a software called RANCID to monitor and save
  configs for my works' routers.I know that RANCID uses a Clogin to get
into
  the router, it then do a show running-config command to veiw the
configs,
  and then backs it up.
  My question is, would PIX 501 supports Clogin?
 
  2)Also, I know one can use conduit permit icmp any any to allow
the
  PING packets to get thru the PIX.  Would I be able to use a similar
 command
  which will allow me to telnet from outside network into the PIX?
 
  Please help...
 
  Best Regards,
  Hunt Lee




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Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-04 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I'm pretty good with QOS.  If you connect your special switch to a router
and you mark your packets with IP Prec or DiffServ (which one is it?) your
packet will remain marked until they reach the destination.  The only time
you would lose these markings is if a router is programmed to strip the
markings and replace them with something else.

As for your CoS bits, they will be fine until they hit a layer 3 device.  If
they remain on a large flat L2 network, then they will remain untouched.  If
the packets have to go through a router of some sort (because they need to
be routed to a different network) the L3 device will strip the layer 2
ethernet packet, replace them with it's own l2 packet based on what type of
link it's going out of (PPP, HDLC, another ethernet netowrk) and send it on
it's merry way.  Unfortuately, that L2 packet had your 802.1p bits in it and
it was trashed.  So you lost them (unless you have the router map l2 to l3).
Therefore, it's better to just mark L3.

Finally, just because you mark your packets, doesn't mean you'll get any
special treatment unles the routers are told to do so (unless you have WFQ
enabled on the router, as WFQ automatically classifies based on IP Prec or
DiffServ.).  Look up MQC to create policies to do things with your marked
packets.

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


TP  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 I said special switch: it is a switch with ethernet ports and voice
ports,
 with the voice processor and its stack.
 So, I can program the special switch in order to set the TOS (layer 3)
per
 port basis and the COS (layer 2) per port basis.
 What happens to my packet (or frames) when I connect this switch to a
router
 (827 per adsl) or to a layer 3 catalyst for different design?


 - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:05 PM
   Subject: Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]


   I don't think you can set the ToS bits on a switch.  You can only set
the
   CoS bit and the CoS will not be translated to a ToS on router unless you
   force it to in the configuration.  ToS is a layer 3 function and CoS is
a
   layer 2 function


   From: TP
   Reply-To: TP
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: read and not write TOS [7:36946]
   Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:14:30 -0500
   
   Dear group,
   i have the following situation:
   a special switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet interface.
   This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
   I'd like to configure the router in order to have different queuing
based
   on
   the TOS (two or three queues).
   The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze the
 traffic
   with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list or
   samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
   Thanks in advance
   Teresa
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RE: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]

2002-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman

Hi,

Have you set the vlan in Vlan Database mode ?
Have you set the ports in question to switchport mode access ?
Have the ports in question been set to the vlan you want them to be in ?

interface FastEthernet5/35
 description to Hop-1st floor
 no ip address
 udld enable
 switchport
 switchport access vlan 171
 switchport mode access
 switchport nonegotiate


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]


I'm trying to setup a Cat 6500 running IOS 12.1 (c6sup22-dsv-mz.121-8a.E5)
as a layer two switch and I'm running into some issues.  I have a group of
ports all on the same vlan, with switchport set to enable them as layer 2
switch ports.  Directed IP traffic flows fine, but broadcast traffic is not
flowing between the ports.

The short story of the problem.  In this test environment I have 5 NT
servers plugged into the Cat 6500 and they can't see each other view
Network Neighborhood.

My current goal is to just get this switch to act like your basic unmanaged
switch (I'll work on the more interesting settings after I get this basic
functionality working.)

Any ideas what I might be missing?

Matt




! Example of the current configuration:

interface FastEthernet2/1
 no ip address
 switchport
!
interface FastEthernet2/2
 no ip address
 switchport
!
interface Vlan1
 ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip route-cache cef
 no ip mroute-cache




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RE: ISP Question [7:37006]

2002-03-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

OK, well first let me explain my idea for an ISP isn't to sell dial up,
or internet access. I already sell devices that use a dial up.

If these devices do a specific application, you might be better off 
thinking of planning an Application Service Provider (ASP) rather 
than an Internet Service Provider (ISP).

I work
for a company so they worry about the business plan. I already checked
out where to buy a block of IP addresses, the min you can buy direct is
/20 or 4096 public IPs.

Just to start with, you don't buy them, you have a license for their 
use for a given time period. You can't just walk up with money, 
either. You must justify that you have actual hosts in use for 50% of 
the address space, and you need to keep records to show that you've 
assigned 80% of the space before you get more.

In reality, you are rarely going to have that many addresses when you 
start, so you are going to have to be assigned space from an upstream 
provider and eventually renumber into your own space.

  I know it sounds like a strange idea for you to
start my own ISP. Also I wanted to mention that Cisco press is coming
out with a new book about Starting an ISP ISP Essentials in April. I
am trying to find more out about the book.

:-) For that matter, my book, Building Service Provider Networks, 
also will be out in April.  There's a Cisco document called 
Essential Things Every ISP Should Know that's available online, but 
unfortunately I don't have the URL handy.  Also, there's a lot of 
material in the Cisco ISP workshops.

Early on, you might want to call your local Cisco office and talk to 
people in the Service Provider team.

I know it has a lot of stuff
about the features of IOS for ISPs. I guess the book is really what I
need. I would also need my own ASN. The /20 block of registered IPs
would not be routable, I assume because they are not attached to anyones
ASN. So I would have to register my own ASN. And of course I would need
a connection to an ISP backbone.

At least two, to obtain your own ASN.

Please don't think I am Ignorant and
think it is as easy as buying a few routers. I am trying to come up with
an estimate for how much it would cost to start an ISP. Like for
instance the block of IPs would be $3000 a year, another cost would be
the modem board, the routers etc. Thanks for your help.

-Original Message-
From: Schneider, Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISP Question [7:37006]

I'm in

-Original Message-
From: Craig Columbus
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/3/2002 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: ISP Question [7:37006]

Ok, I'll bite...

Don't start buying equipment yet.  The technical component of an ISP is
only one very small part of a big picture.  If you're seriously thinking

about starting an ISP, you first need to write a business plan that
delineates your idea, your potential market, your competition, your
management team, your organizational structure, your cashflow analysis,
your initial funding, and your exit strategy.  This includes a full and
honest SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats)
analysis.  Once you've refined your plan, show it to people who know a
lot
more about running a business than you do.  Go visit SCORE (look them up
in
the phone book) and be prepared to rewrite everything you've written.
Once
you've got a final product, then you're going to need funding.
Remember,
you need to account for more than the technical equipment.  You'll have
to
consider rents, leases, insurance, utilities, payroll, taxes, etc.  Once

you've got the funding, you can bring on qualified management and
engineers
(read experienced in this field) and let them decide on the particular
equipment you'll need.
If this sounds like too much to tackle, then you're not ready to run
your
own business.  On the other hand, if you're financially well off (rich)
and
are determined to go forward anyway, I'll be glad to walk you down the
path
for a fee. ;-)

Good luck,
Craig

At 02:35 PM 3/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Does anyone have a list of equipment for a company to become and ISP? I
also want to buy a class of IP addresses and host them myself. Is there
a link on Cisco to help someone like myself get started. Any help on
this topic would be appreciated. I really don't know where to start





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Pix Alias - puzzled - Bit long [7:37189]

2002-03-04 Thread Gaz

I've been playing a little with the Pix alias command today on a two
interface Pix:

A customer was using the alias command to change the content of DNS replies
from the registered address to the real internal address of servers, so that
users on the local subnet went directly to servers on the same LAN.
This seemed to be working (The DNS side of it).

alias (inside)   255.255.255.255

Unfortunately the other use for the same alias command seemed to be screwing
this up. The other use allows destination NAT of the addresses within the
command.
Users trying to get to the internal server addresses were timing out
intermittently. This turned out to be because of the alias command, which
was making the pix reply (proxy arp) and NAT the internal server address to
the new destination address (the registered address).

I asked the customer to apply 'sysopt noproxy inside' to turn off proxy arp
and the problem was cured. Took it off to confirm and problems returned.

I've also noticed the command 'sysopt nodnsalias' which seems to do
'roughly' the same thing (I think!!). Can anyone explain this command any
better than the couple of lines in the Pix command reference.

Also anybody care to detail how they use the alias command for this sort of
thing. It seems to me that there are a few ways to use it (And I think even
more ways when servers are on the DMZ so that DNS changes or NAT will do the
trick)

Thanks,

Gaz




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RE: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]

2002-03-04 Thread Bond, Jeffrey T

You need to assign your ports to a vlan based on your configuration below.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]


I'm trying to setup a Cat 6500 running IOS 12.1 (c6sup22-dsv-mz.121-8a.E5)
as a layer two switch and I'm running into some issues.  I have a group of
ports all on the same vlan, with switchport set to enable them as layer 2
switch ports.  Directed IP traffic flows fine, but broadcast traffic is not
flowing between the ports.

The short story of the problem.  In this test environment I have 5 NT
servers plugged into the Cat 6500 and they can't see each other view
Network Neighborhood.

My current goal is to just get this switch to act like your basic unmanaged
switch (I'll work on the more interesting settings after I get this basic
functionality working.)

Any ideas what I might be missing?

Matt




! Example of the current configuration:

interface FastEthernet2/1
 no ip address
 switchport
!
interface FastEthernet2/2
 no ip address
 switchport
! 
interface Vlan1
 ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip route-cache cef
 no ip mroute-cache




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RE: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]

2002-03-04 Thread Bond, Jeffrey T

can you copy and paste the complete config for us to look at?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]


I'm trying to setup a Cat 6500 running IOS 12.1 (c6sup22-dsv-mz.121-8a.E5)
as a layer two switch and I'm running into some issues.  I have a group of
ports all on the same vlan, with switchport set to enable them as layer 2
switch ports.  Directed IP traffic flows fine, but broadcast traffic is not
flowing between the ports.

The short story of the problem.  In this test environment I have 5 NT
servers plugged into the Cat 6500 and they can't see each other view
Network Neighborhood.

My current goal is to just get this switch to act like your basic unmanaged
switch (I'll work on the more interesting settings after I get this basic
functionality working.)

Any ideas what I might be missing?

Matt




! Example of the current configuration:

interface FastEthernet2/1
 no ip address
 switchport
!
interface FastEthernet2/2
 no ip address
 switchport
! 
interface Vlan1
 ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip route-cache cef
 no ip mroute-cache




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RE: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Lupi, Guy

There is a reason for the first one that I have seen.  If for some reason
you are using your loopback subnet for a NAT pool, and the NAT pool requires
more than one global IP address, you can assign a /29 (or whatever) to the
loopback and use that whole range for the NAT pool.  That is one instance in
which you may want to advertise more than a host route for your loopback.
You could have loopback 1 as the RID, and loopback 2 assigned the /29 for
NAT, loopback 2 would have the ip ospf network point-to-point command to
advertise the /29.

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]


At 08:59 AM 3/4/02, bergenpeak wrote:
1) A loopback address is normally advertised by OSPF as a host route.
The command ip ospf network point-to-point enables one to specify
that the interface should be advertised as a subnet route.  What are
the benefits for doing this?

I can't imagine any benefits. Where did you find this info??

I do see some mention in RFC 2328 of using a host versus a subnet for the 
Link ID. On point-to-point networks, if the neighbor's IP address is 
known, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link to the neighbor's IP address, and 
the Link Data
to the mask 0x (indicating a host route) If a subnet has been 
assigned to the point-to-point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link to 
the subnet's IP address, and the Link Data to the subnet's mask...


2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

I couldn't find anything in RFC 2328 that says that two routers connected 
to a link MUST agree on the cost. The RFC writers use the term MUST 
carefully. If it were required, they would put it in the RFC.

I think it would be a good idea to make them agree, though


3) In the Exstart phase, how is the master selected?  Chappel's
book says RID while Doyle's say highest interface IP address.  Which
is it?

The router with the higher Router ID becomes the master.


4) I'm somewhat unclear on the Exchange and the Loading states.  When
a router goes into Exchange state, does it send all DDPs it knows
about before processing any DDPs received from other adjancent
neighbors?

I think so, but I've never thought about the database synchronization 
issues associated with a router that is a neighbor to many routers. My 
guess is that it can only be in the exchange state with one router at a 
time. Otherwise it would be exchanging database info with one router as the 
info was being updated  by another router??

Thus, a router goes into Exchange state, sends all DDPs it knows about,
then goes into Loading state, where it issues LSRs for LSAs it wants
more
details on?  Is this the process?

Sounds right. See the RFC for the details.


5) Is there a difference between DBD and DDP packets?

I would avoid the term DDP, since it means Datagram Delivery Protocol to 
AppleTalk people. ;-)


Thanks


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread Patrick Ramsey

what is the overall goal?

 Gaz  03/04/02 03:06PM 
Hi all,

Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
address on the same port (80) in some way.
Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed and
use the single address outside to single inside.
The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
propagate.
I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find it
whilst playing about today.

Any ideas welcome.

Thanks,

Gaz
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Re: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread Gaz

Eventually, two separate static commands for two separate outside addresses
going to two separate DMZ addresses.
At the moment there is just one machine inside. Possibility of putting
multiple addresses on the server but preferred option is not to do this.
What I would like to miss out is the time required to wait for DNS to
propagate when I split the single outside address to two. If I can leave the
DNS pointing to two addresses and make the changes at the required time,
there is no delay involved.

Thanks,

Gaz


Patrick Ramsey  wrote in message
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 what is the overall goal?

  Gaz  03/04/02 03:06PM 
 Hi all,

 Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
 address on the same port (80) in some way.
 Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed
and
 use the single address outside to single inside.
 The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
 machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
 immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
 propagate.
 I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find it
 whilst playing about today.

 Any ideas welcome.

 Thanks,

 Gaz
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RE: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread Hire, Ejay

On a cisco router, you use the Extendable command.  not sure about the pix.

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From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]


Hi all,

Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
address on the same port (80) in some way.
Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed and
use the single address outside to single inside.
The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
propagate.
I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find it
whilst playing about today.

Any ideas welcome.

Thanks,

Gaz




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RE: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Ouellette, Tim

I have a question regarding # 2.  

let's say both routera and router b are connected and advertising the link
between them to router c.  The connection from routera to routerc is a 64k
frame circuit.  The link betwen routerb and routerc is a 64k ISDN (1 b).  If
routera advertises the network between itself and routerb with a cost of 10,
and routerb advertises that same network with a cost of 100.  All other
things being equal when routerc gets the two updates, he will prefer to take
the frame circuit towards routera to get to that network. Why would anyways
want this? What if the circuit between routerb and routerc was a backup ISDN
that you had to pay extra for to bring up during normal business hours or
something like that.  I guess it all comes down to what your network is
doing. Whether two boxes advertise the same cost to a network is really only
dependent upon which path you want to take to get there. If they both
advertise the same, you may potentially load balance. If that's not desired,
crank up the cost of one of those boxes so it's path is less-desirable.

router a --- routerb
 \/
  \  /
   \/
   routerc

Was I just rambling? Did that make sense.

Tim


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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]


At 08:59 AM 3/4/02, bergenpeak wrote:




2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

I couldn't find anything in RFC 2328 that says that two routers connected 
to a link MUST agree on the cost. The RFC writers use the term MUST 
carefully. If it were required, they would put it in the RFC.

I think it would be a good idea to make them agree, though






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Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I believe Rc would know the network to be equal cost between the two
routers.

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


Ouellette, Tim  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 I have a question regarding # 2.

 let's say both routera and router b are connected and advertising the link
 between them to router c.  The connection from routera to routerc is a 64k
 frame circuit.  The link betwen routerb and routerc is a 64k ISDN (1 b).
If
 routera advertises the network between itself and routerb with a cost of
10,
 and routerb advertises that same network with a cost of 100.  All other
 things being equal when routerc gets the two updates, he will prefer to
take
 the frame circuit towards routera to get to that network. Why would
anyways
 want this? What if the circuit between routerb and routerc was a backup
ISDN
 that you had to pay extra for to bring up during normal business hours or
 something like that.  I guess it all comes down to what your network is
 doing. Whether two boxes advertise the same cost to a network is really
only
 dependent upon which path you want to take to get there. If they both
 advertise the same, you may potentially load balance. If that's not
desired,
 crank up the cost of one of those boxes so it's path is less-desirable.

 router a --- routerb
  \/
   \  /
\/
routerc

 Was I just rambling? Did that make sense.

 Tim


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 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]


 At 08:59 AM 3/4/02, bergenpeak wrote:




 2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
 link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

 I couldn't find anything in RFC 2328 that says that two routers connected
 to a link MUST agree on the cost. The RFC writers use the term MUST
 carefully. If it were required, they would put it in the RFC.

 I think it would be a good idea to make them agree, though




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RE: Setting up Catalyst 6500 as a Layer 2 switch [7:37177]

2002-03-04 Thread Matt Fisher

I am setting this up in VLAN 1.  So the vlan was already setup in the VLAN
database.  I do have the ports in question set to switchport mode access. 
All of the ports are in the same vlan.

Matt

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Author: Larry Letterman (---.cisco.com)
Date:   03-04-02 15:21

Hi, 

Have you set the vlan in Vlan Database mode ? 
Have you set the ports in question to switchport mode access ? 
Have the ports in question been set to the vlan you want them to be in ? 

interface FastEthernet5/35 
description to Hop-1st floor 
no ip address 
udld enable 
switchport 
switchport access vlan 171 
switchport mode access 
switchport nonegotiate 


Larry Letterman 
Cisco Systems 
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Re: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread Rich

Why not add an additional ip to the internal host and have two nats?

- Original Message -
From: Gaz 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:06 PM
Subject: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]


 Hi all,

 Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
 address on the same port (80) in some way.
 Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed
and
 use the single address outside to single inside.
 The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
 machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
 immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
 propagate.
 I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find it
 whilst playing about today.

 Any ideas welcome.

 Thanks,

 Gaz




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RE: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]

2002-03-04 Thread Tarek Sabry

I think we should not be talking about the contents of the exams or how much
of this or that. Doesn't do anyone any good.

No offense please.

Tarek

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I think I had about 2 maybe 3 questions last Thursday.

Woody
CCNP

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Subject: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]


Hi all.

I'm taking my CCIE written this afternoon and I'm wondering if there's a
lot
of ATM questions on the exam?  I'm doing some heavy cramming so I just
want
to know if I should concentrate on ATM.

Any other tips would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Audy




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Re: hey norco [7:37146]

2002-03-04 Thread norco

hey man don't mention it...!
 wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 hey norco...that was a great post..ye..those guys who brought up the term
 lab rats
 really think that you should have been born with that knowledge.
 apart from that, yes its all about improving your standard of living and a
 lot more
 things exterior to one's work.
 cya.

 norco wrote:

  i agree. that 'lab rat' bullshit has been created by cisco engineers
 fearful
  of their status/positions because nowadays anyone get reasonable
proficient
  at cisco routing and switching - which SHOULD be the case!! I remember
  people (and they still do) cryin' the frickin' blues beacuse people were
  paper certified, and that they had no hands-on experience. Well, now
that
  they are getting hands-on experience albeit in a lab environment (which
is
  in some cases presents a more convoluted routing and switching
environment
  because it allows them to set the level of complexity depending on the
  amount and type of lab equipment...phew - long comment) - they have the
  audacity to label them 'lab rats' - honestly i think these fucks expect
you
  to be born with this knowledge!!
 
  By all means get stuck into your lab - get your CCNP, go for the CCIE
and
  improve your standard of living - after all that's what this is all
about -
  don't let a bunch of narrow-minded, paranoid, tall-poppy syndrome minded
  dicks dictate what you should or should not do.
 
  B Rudy  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
   Hey guys,
  
   I have been looking for a job for the past 8 months.  I decided to get
  some
   professional Cisco training since the market was doing so badly. I
have
  read
   some message boards talking about CCIE lab rats, and how they are a
   disgrace.. I dont want to be looked at like that.   I have purchased a
  year
   of training where I can utilize all the Cisco equipment they have on
 their
   premises.  I am going to be a lab rat for a while.. Will i be able to
 find
  a
   job once i am a ccnp and proficcient with Cisco and their equipment??
 That
   lab rat being a disgrace comment is totally absurd
  
   my bio:
   B.S in Telecommunications
   No experience in the field-but a lot in the labs
   CCDA
   CCNA
   Network+
   MCSE 2k
   LPI 1
   A+




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Re: Well it's my turn...CCIE#8878 [7:37145]

2002-03-04 Thread norco

Well done...very well done. Let  us know how it changes your life!!! :)

Richard Newman  wrote in message
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 With many hours of reading and hands on, not to mention all the OTJT
 (sometimes that's the best) I succeeded in passing on my first attempt.
 Thanks to all those who helped along the way.


 Richard Newman, CCIE#8878
 Alltel




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Re: CCNP Lab Rat [7:37130]

2002-03-04 Thread sakky

Look.  There's nothing wrong with increasing your knowledge.  Everybody has
to start somewhere.

The problem arises when guys who are certified, but have little experience,
still expect to get the same pay and respect as somebody who's been doing it
for awhile.  Or worse, they try to fake their way around by claiming
knowledge they don't have.  Then they inevitably screw something up, which
not only means more work for the other guys because they have to clean up
the mess, but also means that hiring managers get suspicious of everybody
because they don't know who's good and who isn't.

The fact is, all of Cisco's cert exams, even the CCIE, can only cover a
small subset of what a network engineer really needs to know.  One prime
example is the ability to troubleshoot layer-1 WAN problems.  This topic is
not covered at all in the lab, because you obviously are not going to have
any layer-1 problems using back2back serial connections.  But layer-1 WAN
problems happen all the time in the real world.  So a guy who knows all
about route redistribution, but doesn't know what to do when the T-1 line
goes down is not a particularly useful employee.  That's just one example,
but there are many others.

Now, like I said, there's nothing wrong with getting a cert, as long as you
are willing to admit (especially to yourself) the things you know and don't
know, and that you're still willing to learn.  Again, the problem comes when
a guy obtains a cert and believes he is now great and doesn't need to learn
more, and deserves the same stature as others with the same cert (but have
been around the industry a lot longer).

norco  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 i agree. that 'lab rat' bullshit has been created by cisco engineers
fearful
 of their status/positions because nowadays anyone get reasonable
proficient
 at cisco routing and switching - which SHOULD be the case!! I remember
 people (and they still do) cryin' the frickin' blues beacuse people were
 paper certified, and that they had no hands-on experience. Well, now that
 they are getting hands-on experience albeit in a lab environment (which is
 in some cases presents a more convoluted routing and switching environment
 because it allows them to set the level of complexity depending on the
 amount and type of lab equipment...phew - long comment) - they have the
 audacity to label them 'lab rats' - honestly i think these fucks expect
you
 to be born with this knowledge!!

 By all means get stuck into your lab - get your CCNP, go for the CCIE and
 improve your standard of living - after all that's what this is all
about -
 don't let a bunch of narrow-minded, paranoid, tall-poppy syndrome minded
 dicks dictate what you should or should not do.


 B Rudy  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hey guys,
 
  I have been looking for a job for the past 8 months.  I decided to get
 some
  professional Cisco training since the market was doing so badly. I have
 read
  some message boards talking about CCIE lab rats, and how they are a
  disgrace.. I dont want to be looked at like that.   I have purchased a
 year
  of training where I can utilize all the Cisco equipment they have on
their
  premises.  I am going to be a lab rat for a while.. Will i be able to
find
 a
  job once i am a ccnp and proficcient with Cisco and their equipment??
That
  lab rat being a disgrace comment is totally absurd
 
  my bio:
  B.S in Telecommunications
  No experience in the field-but a lot in the labs
  CCDA
  CCNA
  Network+
  MCSE 2k
  LPI 1
  A+




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OSPF Network Types [7:37205]

2002-03-04 Thread John Neiberger

I've been reading the CCO configuration guides and I now have a
question.  What is the difference between the following:

ip ospf network point-to-multipoint

  and

ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast

??

More specifically, I really want to know when you would use the latter
command.  The example given on CCO is if we have excluded the broadcast
keyword from a frame relay map.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone
configure a frame map without that keyword so I don't know why you'd
ever want to do that.

Any thoughts here?

Thanks,
John




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RE: CCNP Lab Rat [7:37130]

2002-03-04 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

Wow

I never participate in these kinds of discussions because its a waste of
bandwidth and time, and most of us know we don't know everything and the
more you know, the more you know you don't know! You just have to have know
where and what resources to turn to when needed, and I wanted to say that
sakky hit the nail right on the head.

Scott
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From: sakky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCNP Lab Rat [7:37130]


Look.  There's nothing wrong with increasing your knowledge.  Everybody has
to start somewhere.

The problem arises when guys who are certified, but have little experience,
still expect to get the same pay and respect as somebody who's been doing it
for awhile.  Or worse, they try to fake their way around by claiming
knowledge they don't have.  Then they inevitably screw something up, which
not only means more work for the other guys because they have to clean up
the mess, but also means that hiring managers get suspicious of everybody
because they don't know who's good and who isn't.

The fact is, all of Cisco's cert exams, even the CCIE, can only cover a
small subset of what a network engineer really needs to know.  One prime
example is the ability to troubleshoot layer-1 WAN problems.  This topic is
not covered at all in the lab, because you obviously are not going to have
any layer-1 problems using back2back serial connections.  But layer-1 WAN
problems happen all the time in the real world.  So a guy who knows all
about route redistribution, but doesn't know what to do when the T-1 line
goes down is not a particularly useful employee.  That's just one example,
but there are many others.

Now, like I said, there's nothing wrong with getting a cert, as long as you
are willing to admit (especially to yourself) the things you know and don't
know, and that you're still willing to learn.  Again, the problem comes when
a guy obtains a cert and believes he is now great and doesn't need to learn
more, and deserves the same stature as others with the same cert (but have
been around the industry a lot longer).

norco  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 i agree. that 'lab rat' bullshit has been created by cisco engineers
fearful
 of their status/positions because nowadays anyone get reasonable
proficient
 at cisco routing and switching - which SHOULD be the case!! I remember
 people (and they still do) cryin' the frickin' blues beacuse people were
 paper certified, and that they had no hands-on experience. Well, now that
 they are getting hands-on experience albeit in a lab environment (which is
 in some cases presents a more convoluted routing and switching environment
 because it allows them to set the level of complexity depending on the
 amount and type of lab equipment...phew - long comment) - they have the
 audacity to label them 'lab rats' - honestly i think these fucks expect
you
 to be born with this knowledge!!

 By all means get stuck into your lab - get your CCNP, go for the CCIE and
 improve your standard of living - after all that's what this is all
about -
 don't let a bunch of narrow-minded, paranoid, tall-poppy syndrome minded
 dicks dictate what you should or should not do.


 B Rudy  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Hey guys,
 
  I have been looking for a job for the past 8 months.  I decided to get
 some
  professional Cisco training since the market was doing so badly. I have
 read
  some message boards talking about CCIE lab rats, and how they are a
  disgrace.. I dont want to be looked at like that.   I have purchased a
 year
  of training where I can utilize all the Cisco equipment they have on
their
  premises.  I am going to be a lab rat for a while.. Will i be able to
find
 a
  job once i am a ccnp and proficcient with Cisco and their equipment??
That
  lab rat being a disgrace comment is totally absurd
 
  my bio:
  B.S in Telecommunications
  No experience in the field-but a lot in the labs
  CCDA
  CCNA
  Network+
  MCSE 2k
  LPI 1
  A+




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Snapshot routing Not working? [7:37207]

2002-03-04 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,
Have 2 routers, Remote and Central configed for Snapshot routing over a BRI 
line using Dialer profiles and Rip.
Remote is the client and Central the server. When the active timer expires, 
I thought that the routing tables would stay 'frozen' meaning that the Rip 
learned routes would still show up in the routing table of either router. 
But infact, it disappears!! Is this how snapshot routing supposed to work? I 
basically took the example from CCO. Please advise.
Thank you.

Here is the config on router Remote, the client and also the sequence of 
events before the routes disappear!!
Remote#sh ru int b0/0
interface BRI0/0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
encapsulation ppp
no ip route-cache
no ip mroute-cache
dialer pool-member 1
isdn switch-type basic-ni
isdn spid1 055531 5553000
isdn spid2 055521 5552000
end

Remote#sh ru int d 1
interface Dialer1
ip unnumbered Loopback0
no ip directed-broadcast
encapsulation ppp
dialer remote-name TS-Central
dialer idle-timeout 140
dialer string 5551000
dialer load-threshold 2 either
dialer snapshot 1
dialer pool 1
dialer-group 1
snapshot client 5 8 dialer
ppp authentication chap
ppp multilink
end

Remote#sh ip route
 17.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   17.17.17.17 is directly connected, Loopback17
R16.0.0.0/8 [120/1] via 1.1.1.1, Dialer1
 1.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets

Remote#sh snap
Current state: active, remaining/exchange time: 1/5 minutes

Remote#
1d12h: SNAPSHOT: Dialer1[1]: moving to client post active-quiet queue

Remote#sh snap
Current state: client post active-quiet, remaining time: 2 minutes

Remote#
1d12h: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:1  disconnected from 5551000 
5551000, call lasted 4
25 seconds
1d12h: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:1, changed state to down
Remote#
1d12h: %DIALER-6-UNBIND: Interface BRI0/0:1 unbound from profile Dialer1
Remote#
1d12h: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI0/0:1, changed 
state to down

Remote#
1d12h: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI0/0:2  disconnected from 5552000 , 
call lasted 483 seco
nds
1d12h: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI0/0:2, changed state to down
Remote#sh ip route
1d12h: %DIALER-6-UNBIND: Interface BRI0/0:2 unbound from profile Dialer1

  Remote#
1d12h: SNAPSHOT: Dialer1[1]: moving to quiet queue

Remote#sh snap
Current state: quiet, remaining: 7 minutes

Remote#sh ip route

 17.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   17.17.17.17 is directly connected, Loopback17
 2.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   2.2.2.2 is directly connected, Loopback0
Remote#

What happened to the Rip learned route??
Thank you.



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Re: OSPF Network Types [7:37205]

2002-03-04 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Here's what I found on CCO:

The non-broadcast keyword used with the point-to-multipoint keyword first
appeared in Cisco IOS Release 11.3 AA.
Using this feature, you can configure broadcast networks as nonbroadcast
multiaccess (NBMA) networks when, for example, you have routers in your
network that do not support multicast addressing.

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.



John Neiberger  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 I've been reading the CCO configuration guides and I now have a
 question.  What is the difference between the following:

 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint

   and

 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast

 ??

 More specifically, I really want to know when you would use the latter
 command.  The example given on CCO is if we have excluded the broadcast
 keyword from a frame relay map.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone
 configure a frame map without that keyword so I don't know why you'd
 ever want to do that.

 Any thoughts here?

 Thanks,
 John




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Re: OSPF Network Types [7:37205]

2002-03-04 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I had a hard time believing that there would be a router that didn't support
multicast until I looked up some old UseNet articles:

From: Nick Filimonov 
Subject: Non-multicast point-to-point and OSPF
Date: 1997/04/06
Message-ID: #1/1
Organization: IREX/Moscow
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco



Hello,

I have a Cisco 2501 with 11.2(4) connected to the PC (running gated)
with a synchronous serial. I'm trying to make OSPF work over this link. Both
routers are in the same area. The problem is that synchronous port within PC
does not support multicasting.
After some experiments, we've made both routers to be ajacent, using
ip ospf network non-broadcast statement. But, in this case, Cisco assumes,
that Serial0 is not point-to-point, reports that Link connected to: Transit
network, and finally declares Adv. router is not-reachable, preventing
direct routes from gated to be installed in the database. Declaring PC as a
neighbor does not help.
If I declare ip ospf network point-to-multipoint, Cisco reports
Serial0 as connected to: Another router (point-to-point), temporary gets
FULL state, get routes installed, and after dead time losts adjacency
(since
PC can't hear multicasts).
THE QUESTION IS: Is there any way to tell Cisco, that Serial0 is
point-to-point NON-MULTICAST interface, OR to tell OSPF that neighboring
router is reachable via specific interface?
--
Nikolas S. Filimonov,
System Administrator,
IREX/Moscow


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RFC 1149 Compliant.


Steven A. Ridder  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Here's what I found on CCO:

 The non-broadcast keyword used with the point-to-multipoint keyword first
 appeared in Cisco IOS Release 11.3 AA.
 Using this feature, you can configure broadcast networks as nonbroadcast
 multiaccess (NBMA) networks when, for example, you have routers in your
 network that do not support multicast addressing.

 --

 RFC 1149 Compliant.



 John Neiberger  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  I've been reading the CCO configuration guides and I now have a
  question.  What is the difference between the following:
 
  ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
 
and
 
  ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast
 
  ??
 
  More specifically, I really want to know when you would use the latter
  command.  The example given on CCO is if we have excluded the broadcast
  keyword from a frame relay map.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone
  configure a frame map without that keyword so I don't know why you'd
  ever want to do that.
 
  Any thoughts here?
 
  Thanks,
  John




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Re: WHERE CAN I FIND AN ISDN SIMULATOR [7:37125]

2002-03-04 Thread MJ

www.arcatech.com
www.teltone.com
www.cheapisdn.com

mindiani mindiani  wrote in message
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 Where can I buy an ISDN simulator for my home LAB ?.

 

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RE: encapsulation failed on ISDN line [7:37119]

2002-03-04 Thread Dominic Ruiz

thanks, good going. Always good to get otjt answers.


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Best CVoice on the west coast [7:37212]

2002-03-04 Thread William Pearch

I'm looking for information on training providers that do an excellent job
of delivering the CVOICE class.  I finally work for a company that wants to
invest in my skill set!
 
TIA,
Bill Pearch, Anchorage AK




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Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-04 Thread Steven A. Ridder

If you do ip summary-address rip n.n.n.n m.m.m.m on an interface, this will
work as CIDR.

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


Andrew Cook  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 I duplicated this effect.  It seems the whole problem lies with RIP
network
 statements.  Although RIPv2 itself can carry classless info, the network
 statement to turn RIP on for an interface is classful.  Until Cisco allows
 the inclusion of netmask info in the network statement as they do for
other
 routing protocols, I would guess that redistribution is the only way to
make
 this work - and I'd wager that they aren't really devoting a lot of
 development time to RIP anymore!
 Incidentally, I created a supernet on a loopback with a /22 and then tried
 putting all 4 class Cs into RIP as networks to see if that would magically
 fix it - it did not.
 Can anyone confirm RIPv2 operation on other vendor equipment?  Does anyone
 allow a CIDR netblock as a native RIP interface without redistribution?

 PS - as to the need for RIPv2 on a modern network, I am still forced to
use
 it in many cases for MPLS/VPN.  The only routing choices to a CE router
are
 static, RIPv2, BGP, and OSPF.  OSPF is limited because each instance uses
up
 one protocol descriptor block (PDB), of which you can only have 32.
Static
 is easy for small customers, but larger ones will almost certainly require
 dynamic routing.  That leaves us the choice of BGP or RIPv2.  It all
depends
 on whether the end user is comfortable using BGP.  Almost everyone has set
 up RIP before, so it seems to be the catchall.

 Andrew Cook

 Chuck  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  well, to continue to beat this dead horse ( like anyone cares about
RIPv2
  CIDR anyway )
 
  Gateway of last resort is not set
 
   172.17.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
  C   172.17.1.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0
   173.4.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
  C   173.4.57.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
   161.52.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
  R   161.52.1.0 [120/1] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:24, Virtual-Access1
   132.31.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
  C   132.31.99.8/32 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
  C   132.31.99.0/24 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
  C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0
  C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1
  C200.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Loopback101
  R201.0.0.0/15 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:11, Virtual-Access1
  R96.0.0.0/4 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
  R203.0.0.0/8 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
  R129.0.0.0/12 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
  C181.48.0.0/13 is directly connected, Loopback201
  R7#
 
  note all the CIDR routes in the routing table, all learned via RIP.
 
  How?
 
  interface Loopback101
   ip address 201.0.0.1 255.254.0.0
  !
  interface Loopback1001
   ip address 203.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
  !
  interface Loopback1002
   ip address 129.1.1.1 255.240.0.0
  !
  interface Loopback1003
   ip address 100.1.1.1 240.0.0.0
  !
  router rip
   version 2
   redistribute connected metric 5
   network 132.31.0.0
   network 161.52.0.0
   network 201.0.0.0
   no auto-summary
 
  you apparently do have to redistribute the CIDR routes into RIPv2. Silly
 me.
  Why wouldn't that be obvious?
 
  Chuck
 
 
 
  Chuck  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
   kinda in answer to your private message:
  
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
   /ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
   watch the wrap
  
   according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support
  CIDR
  
   On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A
 check
   of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
   Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: RIPV2 is able to
   support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless
route
   through redistribution
  
   I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter
 how
   many hokey pokies I do.
  
   At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had
the
  same
   frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit
 more
   research.
  
   Chuck
  
  
   Chuck  wrote in message
   news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;-
   
I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set
 up.
   The
answer was no problem
   
I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem
with
   OSPF.
   
I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
   
there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models
may
  not
support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe
 that
   it
is an issue with current IOS code.
   
Chuck
   
   
   
Pierre-Alex Guanel  wrote in message

AUX TTY [7:37214]

2002-03-04 Thread Rafay

Whats a Technical Difference b/w AUX and TTY ?




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Re: hey norco [7:37146]

2002-03-04 Thread Kevin Wigle

hey I'm just amazed that all these responses with the f* word got through
the list's amazing filters

- Original Message -
From: norco 
To: 
Sent: Monday, 04 March, 2002 17:34
Subject: Re: hey norco [7:37146]


 hey man don't mention it...!




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RE: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Peter van Oene

One thing to remember is that OSPF costs are calculated 
unidirectionally.  For example, A's cost to C could be very different from 
C's cost to A.  In general, IP traffic has to be engineered in both 
directions and it for some networks asymmetry in flow might make sense.  I 
can't think of a reason off hand while watching a hockey game, but 
experience has taught me that many odd looking designs are rooted in 
rational, informed theory.

Pete


At 04:05 PM 3/4/2002 -0500, Ouellette, Tim wrote:
I have a question regarding # 2.

let's say both routera and router b are connected and advertising the link
between them to router c.  The connection from routera to routerc is a 64k
frame circuit.  The link betwen routerb and routerc is a 64k ISDN (1 b).  If
routera advertises the network between itself and routerb with a cost of 10,
and routerb advertises that same network with a cost of 100.  All other
things being equal when routerc gets the two updates, he will prefer to take
the frame circuit towards routera to get to that network. Why would anyways
want this? What if the circuit between routerb and routerc was a backup ISDN
that you had to pay extra for to bring up during normal business hours or
something like that.  I guess it all comes down to what your network is
doing. Whether two boxes advertise the same cost to a network is really only
dependent upon which path you want to take to get there. If they both
advertise the same, you may potentially load balance. If that's not desired,
crank up the cost of one of those boxes so it's path is less-desirable.

router a --- routerb
  \/
   \  /
\/
routerc

Was I just rambling? Did that make sense.

Tim


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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]


At 08:59 AM 3/4/02, bergenpeak wrote:




 2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
 link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

I couldn't find anything in RFC 2328 that says that two routers connected
to a link MUST agree on the cost. The RFC writers use the term MUST
carefully. If it were required, they would put it in the RFC.

I think it would be a good idea to make them agree, though




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Re: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]

2002-03-04 Thread PING

Doesn't hurt. No one is telling the actual questions.
It is far less helpful than practice exams...


Tarek Sabry wrote:

 I think we should not be talking about the contents of the exams or how
much
 of this or that. Doesn't do anyone any good.

 No offense please.

 Tarek

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Woods, Randall, SOLCM
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]

 I think I had about 2 maybe 3 questions last Thursday.

 Woody
 CCNP

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 From: Audy Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CCIE Written - ATM Questions [7:37176]

 Hi all.

 I'm taking my CCIE written this afternoon and I'm wondering if there's a
 lot
 of ATM questions on the exam?  I'm doing some heavy cramming so I just
 want
 to know if I should concentrate on ATM.

 Any other tips would be appreciated.  Thanks.

 Audy
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RE: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]

2002-03-04 Thread Rik Guyler

You will need the updated IOS for this GBIC.  Being a newer GBIC, the older
IOS won't recognize it so run the upgrade and it will work.  To confirm
this, type sh int g0/1 (g0/2, etc..) and the output will tell you if the
GBIC is recognized or not.

Rik

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From: Chuck Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]


I wouldn't upgrade the IOS.  We had a 3550 that was doing the same thing
(GBIC not blinking at all). We called into TAC and got a replacement.
We did the upgrade first and when the switch would boot it would no
recognize the Ethernet controller.  It may be different for you since
you have a 3508.  I guess you would need to ask yourself do I feel
lucky?

Good Luck,

Chuck Collins
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:33 AM
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Subject: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]


Dear all
I need clarification regarding these two points thanking your help in
proceed, 

First point: 
We have Catalyst 3508G XL , 8 GBIC slots ,  12.0(5.2)XU IOS software. We
tried to make operate it but the GBIC was not blinking at all , as I had
read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/1000gbic/ins
tnot
e.htm , I got conclusion that the switches detect and enable the GBIC
only
when they are running the minimum software releases which  in case of
Catalyst 3508G XL  Cisco the minimum IOS Release is  12.0(5)XW , so in
order
to enable the GBIC we have to upgrade the IOS software from 12.0(5.2)XU
to
12.0(5)XW .

Second point:
we have Catalyst 2950T-24 Switch-24 10/100 ports and 2 fixed
10/100/1000BaseT uplink ports, IOS available 12.0(5.3)WC(1).
As I had read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2950/2950_wc/1169
303.
htm , I got conclusion that we do not have to upgrade the ios image
because
the ios will support the following: Catalyst 2950T-24
24 fixed autosensing 10/100 ports and
2 fixed autosensing 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports.

please tell me if there is something missing here , the equipment is
placed
far away from our office we need to put the network on there  as soon as
possible , in case we have to upgrade the ios of the any platform then
please let us go ahead solving this issue.

Warm regards, 
Ismail Al-shelh
Network Engineer

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RE: Catalyst 3508G XL , 2950T-24 [7:37098]

2002-03-04 Thread Rik Guyler

That's not good advice.  An LX GBIC uses a laser transmitter, which is
powerful enough to burn a hole in your retina as a coworker of mine found
out.  Besides, this is a copper GBIC so no light to see.

12.0(5.3) is a new enough IOS to recognize the copper GBIC so this version
will work on all of your 3500 switches.

Rik

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I don't believe that it's the IOS on the 3508. First, check to make sure
your fiber is connected correctly. When the switch is powered up, you can
see which side the laser is on in the GBIC connector. Then, if you cup the
fiber in your hands, briefly (very briefly) look to see which connector the
laser is on. Then make sure that the connector with the laser goes to the
connector on the switch without the laser. If this isn't the problem,
there's a good chance it's probably a bad GBIC.

Shawn K.

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I wouldn't upgrade the IOS.  We had a 3550 that was doing the same thing
(GBIC not blinking at all). We called into TAC and got a replacement. We did
the upgrade first and when the switch would boot it would no recognize the
Ethernet controller.  It may be different for you since you have a 3508.  I
guess you would need to ask yourself do I feel lucky?

Good Luck,

Chuck Collins
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Dear all
I need clarification regarding these two points thanking your help in
proceed, 

First point: 
We have Catalyst 3508G XL , 8 GBIC slots ,  12.0(5.2)XU IOS software. We
tried to make operate it but the GBIC was not blinking at all , as I had
read this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/1000gbic/ins
tnot
e.htm , I got conclusion that the switches detect and enable the GBIC only
when they are running the minimum software releases which  in case of
Catalyst 3508G XL  Cisco the minimum IOS Release is  12.0(5)XW , so in order
to enable the GBIC we have to upgrade the IOS software from 12.0(5.2)XU to
12.0(5)XW .

Second point:
we have Catalyst 2950T-24 Switch-24 10/100 ports and 2 fixed
10/100/1000BaseT uplink ports, IOS available 12.0(5.3)WC(1). As I had read
this document
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2950/2950_wc/1169
303.
htm , I got conclusion that we do not have to upgrade the ios image because
the ios will support the following: Catalyst 2950T-24 24 fixed autosensing
10/100 ports and 2 fixed autosensing 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports.

please tell me if there is something missing here , the equipment is placed
far away from our office we need to put the network on there  as soon as
possible , in case we have to upgrade the ios of the any platform then
please let us go ahead solving this issue.

Warm regards, 
Ismail Al-shelh
Network Engineer

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Re: hey norco [7:37146]

2002-03-04 Thread norco

Well i'm glad they did make it through - the f* word is indeed an effective
form of punctuation - the next generation exclamation point.

Kevin Wigle  wrote in message
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 Subject: Re: hey norco [7:37146]


  hey man don't mention it...!




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EIGRP Bandwidth statements [7:37221]

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Deloach

Hi All

 Can someone clarify the rules for EIGRP bandwidth statements in a frame
relay environment with point to point subinterfaces??

 Is it more preferred to place the statement on the port itself or each
subinterface?

Assuming equal and unequal CIR's

Thank You
MikeD.




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RE: Snapshot routing Not working? [7:37207]

2002-03-04 Thread Nick S.

where's ur dialer map snapshot ??

Nick


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RE: basic OSPF questions [7:37142]

2002-03-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

One thing to remember is that OSPF costs are calculated
unidirectionally.  For example, A's cost to C could be very different from
C's cost to A.  In general, IP traffic has to be engineered in both
directions and it for some networks asymmetry in flow might make sense.  I
can't think of a reason off hand while watching a hockey game, but
experience has taught me that many odd looking designs are rooted in
rational, informed theory.

Pete

There's a whole class of applications for this sort of thing, and 
indeed there is a Unidirectional Link Routing group in the IETF for 
dealing with them.  Much of the leading research work is in France, 
where practical applications deal with using high-bandwidth satellite 
links in one direction to deliver educational content to Africa, and 
a low-speed terrestrial return link for acknowledgements.



At 04:05 PM 3/4/2002 -0500, Ouellette, Tim wrote:
I have a question regarding # 2.

let's say both routera and router b are connected and advertising the link
between them to router c.  The connection from routera to routerc is a 64k
frame circuit.  The link betwen routerb and routerc is a 64k ISDN (1 b). 
If
routera advertises the network between itself and routerb with a cost of
10,
and routerb advertises that same network with a cost of 100.  All other
things being equal when routerc gets the two updates, he will prefer to
take
the frame circuit towards routera to get to that network. Why would anyways
want this? What if the circuit between routerb and routerc was a backup
ISDN
that you had to pay extra for to bring up during normal business hours or
something like that.  I guess it all comes down to what your network is
doing. Whether two boxes advertise the same cost to a network is really
only
dependent upon which path you want to take to get there. If they both
advertise the same, you may potentially load balance. If that's not
desired,
crank up the cost of one of those boxes so it's path is less-desirable.

router a --- routerb
   \/
\  /
 \/
 routerc

Was I just rambling? Did that make sense.

Tim


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At 08:59 AM 3/4/02, bergenpeak wrote:




  2) Must a link cost be the same on for all routers that share the
  link?  Is there a protocol reason for this?  Some other reason?

I couldn't find anything in RFC 2328 that says that two routers connected
to a link MUST agree on the cost. The RFC writers use the term MUST
carefully. If it were required, they would put it in the RFC.

I think it would be a good idea to make them agree, though




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RE: hey norco [7:37146]

2002-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman

I'll bet the people you work with are really impressed
when you use the F* word in meetings at work


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Well i'm glad they did make it through - the f* word is indeed an effective
form of punctuation - the next generation exclamation point.

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Re: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread ME

Adding a second IP to the internal host is the only way I know of useing the
PIX.

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 - Original Message -
 From: Gaz
 To:
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:06 PM
 Subject: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]


  Hi all,
 
  Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
  address on the same port (80) in some way.
  Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed
 and
  use the single address outside to single inside.
  The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
  machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
  immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
  propagate.
  I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find
it
  whilst playing about today.
 
  Any ideas welcome.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Gaz




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LRE Switch Configuration [7:37226]

2002-03-04 Thread Kwame

Looking for LRE Configuration Documentation. Anyone? Thanks.




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Re: OSPF Network Types [7:37205]

2002-03-04 Thread Hunt Lee

John,

For Frame-Relay PVCs,  you would use:

ip ospf network point-to-multipoint

But for Frame-Relay SVCs or ATM SVCs, you would use:

ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee


John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 I've been reading the CCO configuration guides and I now have a
 question.  What is the difference between the following:

 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint

   and

 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast

 ??

 More specifically, I really want to know when you would use the latter
 command.  The example given on CCO is if we have excluded the broadcast
 keyword from a frame relay map.  I don't think I've ever seen anyone
 configure a frame map without that keyword so I don't know why you'd
 ever want to do that.

 Any thoughts here?

 Thanks,
 John




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OSPF Question [7:37228]

2002-03-04 Thread Hunt Lee

I believe someone might have mentioned this already but since I'm studying
it right now I thought I'd ask again...  It would be greatly appreciated if
someone can shed some light on this.

For OSPF, I understand that a flapping subnet will cause LSAs to be
flooded throughout the internetwork at each state transition.  However, my
question is:

TCP / IP Vol1 by Jeff Doyle says if a subnet is summarized by a summary
address, the subnet's instability will no longer be advertised.  But if this
is the case, then what happens if:-

e.g.  Router A advertised a summary route (advertising subnet 172.20.10.0
/24 to Router B.  Now if a host in that subnet (say 172.20.10.1 is
bouncing) - if this instability is hidden by the summary route, does it mean
that Router B wouldn't realized that 172.20.10.1 is flapping, and continues
to forward packets to it?

Please help...

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee




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ATM SVCs, was Re: OSPF Network Types [7:37205]

2002-03-04 Thread John Neiberger

This brings up another point that's been bugging me lately.

When would you ever implement ATM SVCs?  It seems that modern 
networks tend to be very chatty and there's generally a lot 
going on, especially if you're running a routing protocol.  
This would tend to keep the SVC up all or most of the time.

If that's the case, why not just nail up PVCs and be done with 
it?  I can't think of a good example off the top of my head 
where it would be a _Really Good Idea_ to implement SVCs.

I suppose it's possible to have networks where connections 
aren't up all the time, but when they are you need the 
capabilities inherent in ATM.  However, I just can't think of a 
really good example where SVCs would be a superior choice vs. 
PVCs.

Any thoughts?

John



 On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Hunt Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 John,
 
 For Frame-Relay PVCs,  you would use:
 
 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
 
 But for Frame-Relay SVCs or ATM SVCs, you would use:
 
 ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast
 
 Best Regards,
 Hunt Lee
 
 
 John Neiberger  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
  I've been reading the CCO configuration guides and I now 
have a
  question.  What is the difference between the following:
 
  ip ospf network point-to-multipoint
 
and
 
  ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast
 
  ??
 
  More specifically, I really want to know when you would use 
the latter
  command.  The example given on CCO is if we have excluded 
the
 broadcast
  keyword from a frame relay map.  I don't think I've ever 
seen anyone
  configure a frame map without that keyword so I don't know 
why you'd
  ever want to do that.
 
  Any thoughts here?
 
  Thanks,
  John
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Re: CCIE Security Lab [7:17848]

2002-03-04 Thread markh

really?
--

I have an official statement from Cisco that says that there will be no
UNIX, only NT.
I was there and it's true.

MS




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Re: OSPF Question [7:37228]

2002-03-04 Thread Chuck

unless you are advertising a host route, I don't think there would be any
effect here. and to be truthful, I'm not sure that the routing process cares
one way or another so long as the particular router's LAN port is
functional.

the routing table would show that host route 172.20.10.1 is reachable via
network 172.20.10.0 as long as the router interface in network 172.20.10.0
is operational.

haven't tested, just thinking out loud.

Chuck



Hunt Lee  wrote in message
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 I believe someone might have mentioned this already but since I'm studying
 it right now I thought I'd ask again...  It would be greatly appreciated
if
 someone can shed some light on this.

 For OSPF, I understand that a flapping subnet will cause LSAs to be
 flooded throughout the internetwork at each state transition.  However, my
 question is:

 TCP / IP Vol1 by Jeff Doyle says if a subnet is summarized by a summary
 address, the subnet's instability will no longer be advertised.  But if
this
 is the case, then what happens if:-

 e.g.  Router A advertised a summary route (advertising subnet 172.20.10.0
 /24 to Router B.  Now if a host in that subnet (say 172.20.10.1 is
 bouncing) - if this instability is hidden by the summary route, does it
mean
 that Router B wouldn't realized that 172.20.10.1 is flapping, and
continues
 to forward packets to it?

 Please help...

 Best Regards,
 Hunt Lee




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Time based ACL on PIX? [7:37198]

2002-03-04 Thread matt

Hi all-

I sent this out earlier but it didn't seem to post??
Anyway...I was wondering if it is possible to have
services behind a PIX restricted to time??  Kinda like
how you can with a Checkpoint.  Initially I was
thinking this was not possible as I have conduit based
configurations on all the PIX's I maintainand am
unaware of any such option on a conduit.  But then I
saw the time-range option for an extended ACL.  So, my
question:

Can this be used on a PIX to limit access to a service
to say 1 ipand only between certain hours?  Has
anyone does this...or is it even possible?

I hope this makes sense.

thanks,

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Re: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When the two outside addresses are resolved to the single inside address
(port 80) everything is OK but when the web server sends back a reply
which of the address translations with be used? If the wrong one is
picked any firewall will choke on it, and if no firewall, the other end
of the connection may get traffic from a source address it doesn't know
anything about. End result is that the two outside addresses need to be
associated with two distict inside addresses.
Hope this helps,
Scott

--- On Mon 03/04, Gaz wrote:
 Eventually, two separate static commands for two separate outside
 addresses
 going to two separate DMZ addresses.
 At the moment there is just one machine inside. Possibility of putting
 multiple addresses on the server but preferred option is not to do
this.
 What I would like to miss out is the time required to wait for DNS to
 propagate when I split the single outside address to two. If I can
leave
 the
 DNS pointing to two addresses and make the changes at the required
time,
 there is no delay involved.

 Thanks,

 Gaz


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  what is the overall goal?
 
   Gaz 03/04/02 03:06PM 
  Hi all,
 
  Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal
 (DMZ)
  address on the same port (80) in some way.
  Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site
 changed
 and
  use the single address outside to single inside.
  The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
  machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
  immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS
 to
  propagate.
  I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't
 find it
  whilst playing about today.
 
  Any ideas welcome.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Gaz
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RE: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]

2002-03-04 Thread Joseph Brunner

pix will respond with error if you do more than 1 static command (specify
more than one
public  private translation, using the static command). Pix dosent offer
extendable either

(im running 6 train on the pix)

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On a cisco router, you use the Extendable command.  not sure about the pix.

-Original Message-
From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pix NAT - Two to one [7:37179]


Hi all,

Has anybody tried NAT'ing two outside addresses to one internal (DMZ)
address on the same port (80) in some way.
Not too difficult to get round, as I can get the DNS of one site changed and
use the single address outside to single inside.
The advantage would be that when the web sites are separated, to two
machines inside, I would like to be able to change the pix settings
immediately rather than change DNS and wait a couple of days for DNS to
propagate.
I'm sure there may be some simple way of doing it, but I couldn't find it
whilst playing about today.

Any ideas welcome.

Thanks,

Gaz




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Re: ISDN [7:37123]

2002-03-04 Thread neil K.

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Re: CIT Support Passing Score [7:37113]

2002-03-04 Thread David L. Blair

My first post was changed somehow.  Here is what I wrote:

Varies.  690 to 710 out of 1000.


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RE: CIT Support Passing Score [7:37113]

2002-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman

once again, if your prepared for the test and know the
subject matter, the score to pass isn't an issue.


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lab equipment recommendation [7:37172]

2002-03-04 Thread Rich

I'm looking for suggestions as to what equipment might be useful in training
for the ccie lab.  I have developed what I believe would be a good lab
(listed below), however, I'm trying to put together a definitive list as
asking more than once for a budget is not easy.  Also, if anyone that has
already completed their ccie and have a comprehensive lab for sale, I would
be interested in talking with you prior to going to ebay.

Current idea list:
2501
2504
2511
3900
5002
2600 with fxs, t1, isdn bri
1750 with fxs and t1
nt server
netware server

What is immediately lacking in my mind is dslw and atm abilities.

Thank you for any and all suggestions.

rich.




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RE: WHERE CAN I FIND AN ISDN SIMULATOR [7:37125]

2002-03-04 Thread Jeff Barr

www.ebay.com

www.cheapisdn.com


HTH
Jeff

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Timed ACL on PIX? [7:37152]

2002-03-04 Thread matt

Hello all-

I was wondering if it is possible to have time
restricted ACL's on a PIX...similiar to what you can
do on a Checkpoint?  Something that can restrict
access to services depending on what time it is.  My
initial thoughts were NO...as we use conduits on our
PIX fleet and I am unaware of any such conduit based
command...but then I started looking and noticed the
time-range command and am wondering if it is possible
to use this feature on an ACL based PIX configuration?

Any help is appreciated,

thanks - matt

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RE: CIT Support Passing Score [7:37113]

2002-03-04 Thread Tim Medley

It's a pass or fail test. You either pass or you do not pass.

tm

Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice, CCDP
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All,

What's the passing score for the 640-506 support exam.

Thanks,

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Re: WHERE CAN I FIND AN ISDN SIMULATOR [7:37125]

2002-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I got my Teltone Demonstrator from Bruce 1 800 444 5217
Very satisfied.

The beaty of Teltone compared to other simulators is that it is plug and 
forget. You can concentrate on your scenario instead of tweaking a
non-Cisco
box.

HTH
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Re: OSPF Question [7:37228]

2002-03-04 Thread John Neiberger

Comments below



 On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Hunt Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I believe someone might have mentioned this already but since 
I'm
 studying
 it right now I thought I'd ask again...  It would be greatly 
appreciated
 if
 someone can shed some light on this.
 
 For OSPF, I understand that a flapping subnet will cause 
LSAs to be
 flooded throughout the internetwork at each state 
transition.  However,
 my
 question is:
 
 TCP / IP Vol1 by Jeff Doyle says if a subnet is summarized by 
a summary
 address, the subnet's instability will no longer be 
advertised.  But if
 this
 is the case, then what happens if:-
 
 e.g.  Router A advertised a summary route (advertising subnet
 172.20.10.0
 /24 to Router B.  Now if a host in that subnet (say 
172.20.10.1 is
 bouncing) - if this instability is hidden by the summary 
route, does it
 mean
 that Router B wouldn't realized that 172.20.10.1 is flapping, 
and
 continues
 to forward packets to it?

That's exactly right.  Router B has no knowledge whatsoever of 
any hosts in this case.  It is only aware of the existence of 
the /24 being advertised by router A.  This isn't quite what 
Doyle is referring to, though.  Let's use a different example.

172.16.1.0/24\
172.16.2.0/24 --- RA ---(172.16.0.0/22) --- RB
172.16.3.0/24/

Not a great drawing, but here's what's going on.  Router A is 
aware of three /24 networks and it summarizes them to a 
single /22 before advertising them to Router B.  Typically, as 
long as any one of those /24 prefixes is up Router A will 
advertise the aggregate.

Unless all three routes go down the aggregate--or summary-- 
gets announced, thus making Router B blissfully unaware of any 
flapping of individual routes.

And you're right, since it would not be aware of the state of 
any given /24, it would continue to forward traffic for that 
prefix to Router A.

HTH,
John

 
 Please help...
 
 Best Regards,
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