[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: [piml] Fwd: See FROM the Interstate Cameras!]

1999-10-08 Thread Nicola Molloy



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Subject: SNET: [piml] Fwd: See FROM the Interstate Cameras!
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Rapchak Jr.)
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Be sure to check out the URLs on this - particularly the last one
(Baja).

 Mike R.




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DATE:   10/7/99 2:28 PM

RE: See FROM the Interstate Cameras!



10-07-1999

I'm VERY excited about this website!:
http://www.brian-wilson.com/children.html

Linked to this site is an Arizona map with camera positions:
http://www.azfms.com/Travel/Map/camera.html


Go there and pick an 'x' and see from the camera mount.
These are in MANY major cities all accross the U.S.!
NOT JUST ARIZONA!  Here in Indiana and ALL OVER!
Just LOOK for them in YOUR state!  Use binoculars to see
the cameras on the towers described below here.

Many are mounted on the interstate light towers like you can
see in this photo below:
http://www.azfms.com/Images/Cameras/camera7.html


It is these cameras that feed into the NWO base of operations.
I BELIEVE that what Prophecy Club speaker Bill Deagle saw in
Colorado called the Omega operation is in actuality the Denver
International Airport.  The reason why is more obvious than you'd
imagine.  Just goto this site and LOOK at the goofy wall murals.
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692


Pardon the punDo you get the big PICTURE now?

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[CTRL] See FROM the Interstate Cameras!

1999-10-08 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject:
SNET: [piml] Fwd: See FROM the Interstate Cameras!
Date:
Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:12:39 -0500 (CDT)
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Rapchak Jr.)
 Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:
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Be sure to check out the URLs on this - particularly the last one
(Baja).

 Mike R.




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 Subject:
   See FROM the Interstate Cameras!
   Date:
   Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:17:12 -0400
   From:
   "David J. Lindstedt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
   govtwatch [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guntalk [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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-- Forwarded Message --

From:   "Larry L. Lawson", INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO: (unknown),
INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATE:   10/7/99 2:28 PM

RE: See FROM the Interstate Cameras!



10-07-1999

I'm VERY excited about this website!:
http://www.brian-wilson.com/children.html

Linked to this site is an Arizona map with camera positions:
http://www.azfms.com/Travel/Map/camera.html


Go there and pick an 'x' and see from the camera mount.
These are in MANY major cities all accross the U.S.!
NOT JUST ARIZONA!  Here in Indiana and ALL OVER!
Just LOOK for them in YOUR state!  Use binoculars to see
the cameras on the towers described below here.

Many are mounted on the interstate light towers like you can
see in this photo below:
http://www.azfms.com/Images/Cameras/camera7.html


It is these cameras that feed into the NWO base of operations.
I BELIEVE that what Prophecy Club speaker Bill Deagle saw in
Colorado called the Omega operation is in actuality the Denver
International Airport.  The reason why is more obvious than you'd
imagine.  Just goto this site and LOOK at the goofy wall murals.
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692


Pardon the punDo you get the big PICTURE now?

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[CTRL] The Paganization of Christianity Nearly Complete.

1999-10-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Welcome the Whole Pagan Camel into the Tent
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/religion/pagan10-97.html

Here's more on UN trying to make all the world's religions uniform so we
all believe in what they do which makes world communism much
easier.After all wars are fought over religion and we can't have any
divisions for one world govt. They still have to worry about race but
one out of two ain't bad. They are just imitating the drama of
evangalism to get them out of it a into brotherhood of man philosophy.
Next thing its global responsibility. Like lambs to the slaughter.
Nicky


 Enter the United Religions initiative. The same year Promise
Keepers handed out The Masculine Journey in Boulder, over
 six thousand religious leaders from around the world gathered
at the Parliament of the World's Religions in Chicago where
Swiss theologian Hans Küng presented his "Declaration of a
Global Ethic." This "ethic" describes itself as "an irrevocable,
unconditional norm for all areas of life, for families and
 communities, for nations and religion" and all who will be
 considered "authentically human" must accept its tenets. The document
makes no mention of man's duties to
God, and the word "God" doesn't even appear in it. It does, however,
spell out one's "global responsibility",
that is, "responsibility for fellow humans and for the planet earth."
(Source: Wm. Grigg, The New American ,
 August 18, 1997).

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Re: [CTRL] The Paganization of Christianity Nearly Complete.

1999-10-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Well it may have worked out if people made it less complicated without
additions. However it is an improvement on rules which make stoning for
adultry, hands chopped off for stealing, meditiating for hours trying to
achieve Nirvana and generally loafing. What I'm contributing is about
the deception of UN to control us even what we believe. Then to make it
world law to follow this gaia worship. They want to take away away every
freedom we have to choose anything. We can only hope UN is too broke to
survive. Global = lack of sovereignity nowdays. Look at UK - forced to
have gays in the military by EU rules.They have endless statistics that
governments use, to say we are lagging behind other countries we must
catch up, and so more regulations are brought about which try to make a
sameness in policies. Now digital drivers licences in NZ, and coming to
UK and USA - satellite trackable. Canada will be saying we are not up to
date we will get them too etc Then Mexico and when NAFTA swallows the
rest of South America, they will be told our rules are that we have
digital drivers licences. Uniformity spreads like a disease, by
politicians who keep comparing themselves to other countries and don't
want to be last in these lists.

Nicky

Andrew Hennessey wrote:

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 hi,

 I have to say that Christianity has not got a leg to stand on in the first
 place - as it went about assimilating every Pagan ideology it could find
 turning the local dieties into saints etc eg. Black Madonna, Bridgit etc
 etc etc etc

 Andrew

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[CTRL] [Fwd: clip642@mosquitonet.com (Clipper)]HAARP

1999-10-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clipper)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:21:03 EDT
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Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:


  Please read this post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clipper) about the
posibility that HIV-AIDS and the HAARP machine are linked to U.S. fed
government weapons.

USCMike1


Dear Clip:

  Yes, you are right about HIV-AIDS being an experiment and developed
for
biological warfare against people. However, it didn't get out of hand,
it was
planned that way.

   Also, HAARP was entered into the Congressional Record several years
ago as
a potential weapon against the enemies of America. Congress even noted
in the
Record that they demanded that the military NEVER use HAARP against
Americans
as it was so powerful and successful in its operation.

   HAARP is able to not only change and control the weather but also to
cause
earthquakes and be used as a death ray, which they have experimented
with for
many years.  By now it has been developed into a well controlled
devastating
death ray weapon.

   HAARP is a huge multiarray of antennas positioned on the ground in
Alaska
and four other places around the earth that directs tremendous
multi-mega
watts of energy skyward toward the Aurora Borealis or the Northern
Lights.

  Then the Aurora Borealis reacts and moves or shifts and can be
directed to
other parts of the globe and it heats up the atomosphere in an area that
normally does not get that much heat.

   Heated air masses rises and cold air masses rush in to take the place
of
the hot air that rose and left a vacuum.  This physical process is what
causes the winds and the weather in the first place.  So using HAARP
they
have been able to harness and control the weather and use it for evil
purposes.

   With the earthquakes, HAARP has been used to direct energy into the
fractured faults of the crust of the earth and as the earth tries to
shift to
releave the strain created by the HAARP energy the two touching crustal
plates give and slip and cause an earthquake.

  As far as the death ray part, they have been able to use microwave
energy
created by antenna array and direct it towards a victim and fry them  or
merely destroy the victim's brain so as to take him/her out of
commission and
hopefully to die.

  As I said earlier, I have developed an instrument that can detect the
very
intense lethal microwave death rays and warn you to immediately get out
of
the way and to get behind something metal because microwaves are
reflected by
metal.  I have plans for a special suit and hat that can protect you
from
EMPs - ElectroMagnetic Pulses, Microwaves, and ELF or Extremely Low
Frequencies.  The sensitive electronic meter that can detect microwave
energy
at low but dangerous levels I am still working on.

USCMike1

In a message dated 10/9/99 3:56:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Subj: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:  Native Americans in Oregon death
ratesunusually HIGH!
 Date:  10/9/99 3:56:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clipper)
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The feds have developed special genetically engineered diseases
that will
  attack only certain ethnic/racial groups such as Native Americans and
Blacks.
   So in addition to those disease warfare elements they are also
zapping
them
  (and us) with microwaves, EMP, and HAARP energies.
 
 

From clip:

 You think maybe Aids was a premature biological weapon developed on the
east
coast
 that got out of hand and that maybe Haarp is nothing more than a smoke
screen used
 as a money generator for other projects? Let's blame Haarp. They need a
raise.

-Clip

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Navy- Marines to blockade close major freeways to travel at end ofDecember]

1999-10-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Navy- Marines to blockade  close major freeways to travel at
end ofDecember
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:46:14 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:

  Bran S. Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] says contacts in the Navy and Marines
reveal that they have been instructed to blockade and close all major
freeway
arteries to travel at the end of December.  THIS IS MARTIAL LAW!  It is
here,
now.

USCMike1


 Subj: State Alert
 Date:  10/9/99 10:47:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bryan s Hunt)
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Southern California major freeway arteries are going to be closed
 by United States Marines and Navy ,the end of December
 it was first reported to me by my mother who is a nurse up in
Atascadero
 ,who heard a broadcast from The US Navy
 also my contact with NRA attended a gunshow and talked with a marine
for
 over 2 hours who confirmed the closures sorry for security reason I
 cannot give up names of these people.
   Major Bryan S Hunt
 State Medical Command
  California state militia

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[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: [piml] * PSYCHICSPY.COM -- the REAL X-Files *--2 searches]

1999-10-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: SNET: [piml] * PSYCHICSPY.COM -- the REAL " X-Files " *--2
searches
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:41:15 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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In a message dated 10/09/1999 9:00:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://seasurf.com/~radioman/index.html

  

Because I am a bit familiar with the subject, this site really  bothered
me.
I know Russian research is far in advance of our own,  so I did a couple
of
searches for those interested. I make no claims  as to validity of any
article.

Lynell

"remote viewing" + DARPA

The Black Vault - Sector 1 "The Government Files"
http://www.blackvault.com/Main/Sector_1/body_sector_1.html
Evaluations http://www.io.com/~hambone/web/evaluations.html
! Parapsychology in Intelligence: The Rise and Fall of the CIA's Psychic
Spies http://www.parascope.com/ds/articles/parapsychologyDoc.htm
ÐÏ à¡± á » þÿ Ò þÿÿÿ ¨
ÿÿÿ ...
http://www.acq.osd.mil/sadbu/sbir/darpa982.doc
RFC 961 http://www.andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc961.html
PADRAK Alternative Web Sites (With Active Links)
http://www.padrak.com/alt/WEBSITES.html
History of the Internet http://www.tui.edu/Help/History.html
vBNS Proposal http://www.jhu.edu/~hac_ns/vbns/proposal.html
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:51:59 +0200 From: Konrad Becker Magnetic
Somnambulism, Dream ... http://www.ljudmila.org/nettime/zkp4/15.htm
CACM Habanero Article
http://habanero.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~jackson/Papers/CACM/Habanero/Habanero1.html


"remote viewing" + Russia


PSI TECH, Inc. Technical Remote Viewing - Ingo Swann on PSI TECH
http://www.trv-psitech.com/ingo.htm
DoD employees hold forth on radio frequency weapons for Congress.
http://www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/house.htm
Crypt Newsletter 47 http://www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/crpt47.htm
PSI TECH, Inc. http://www.trv-psitech.com/textonly/ingo.htm
Paravozov News - 15dec96
http://www.cityline.ru:8080/paravozov-news/15dec96.html
PSI TECH, Inc. - Ed Dames on Art Bell
http://www.trv-psitech.com/transcripts/ab020998.htm
PSI TECH, Inc. - Ed Dames on Art Bell
http://www.trv-psitech.com/transcripts/ab083198.htm
Phlogiston phestival down in the bunker.
http://www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/bunkbunk.htm
The French Seer Awakes - French Culture - Date: 04/05/99
http://frenchculture.tqn.com/library/weekly/aa040599.htm
SIGHTINGS http://www.sightings.com/political/weapons/weapons.htm
CSETI Additional Position Papers/Briefings
http://www.cseti.org/position/addition/add.htm
CSETI Additional Position Papers/Briefings
http://www.cseti.com/position/addition/add.htm
Ebon1.html http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Ebon1.html
Prophecy Central - Update Archives
http://www.bible-prophecy.com/pcu.htm
PJ - SEEING THE FUTURE
http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/local/h-pages/palden/pal-4fut.html
The Tetrahedron http://www.well.com/user/mali33/tetrahedron.html
Slavic Shamanism Psi Research
http://www.resonate.org/places/writings/larissa/sciwi.htm
Russian Internet http://www.neystadt.org/russia
People - "R" http://www.ufomind.com/people/r/
CNN/SI - World Figure Skating - Plushenko wins men's title at NHK Trophy
figure skating - ...
http://www.cnnsi.com/more/figureskating/news/1998/12/06/plushenko_wins/
1998 INTERNATIONAL UFO CONGRESS - SCHEDULE OF EVENTS
http://www.padrak.com/ufo/SCHED_1998.html
Next Meeting Toronto Section SMPTE
http://www.smpte.org/sections/yyz/pastmeet/dec9ann.htm
Pagan Publishing/Sneak Previews
http://www.tccorp.com/pagan/pp_previews.html
MCF: Alan Yu - Mind Machine http://www.mk.net/~mcf/yu.htm
Art Bell - Radio Program Summaries http://www.artbell.com/topics.html
Hits  Misses 1998 http://www.spiritnexus.com/earth-changes/hits.htm
Earth Change Predictions - Vol.2 No.10
http://www.newage.com.au/library/earth2.10.html
FEDLINK Technical Notes
http://lcweb.loc.gov/flicc/tn/97/03/tn9703.html
DREAMS AND VISIONS OF WAR http://www.greatdreams.com/war.htm
Information Regarding UFOs (Aliens)
http://nic.savba.sk/~utrrmadr/ufo_upd.html
Text by W. C. VETSCH - David Icke E~Magazine
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-5/text/text8.html
Comments of Our Time with Illinois
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/comments.html
Multimedia Arts and Technology Revue http://www.punch.ns.ca/matr.htm
Hide summaries  |   Sort by date  |  Ungroup results
http://infoseek.go.com/Titles?sv=ISlk=noframesnh=10st=10qt=%2B%22remote+v
iewing%22+%2B%2B+%2BRussiacol=WW
Art Bell - Radio Program Summaries
http://www.artbell.com/topics0499.html
CONSPIRACY THEORY LITERATURE FAQ - David Icke's E~Magazine Article
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-4/conspire-faq.html
Text by W. C. VETSCH - David Icke E~Magazine
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-5/text/text9.html
PRINT-OUT CATALOGUE http://www.weirdvideos.com/catalog.html
Text by W. C. VETSCH - David Icke E~Magazine
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-5/text/text11.html

[CTRL] [Fwd: Denver AirPort: Hidden Underground City is Western New World OrderHeadquarters?]

1999-10-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Denver AirPort: Hidden Underground City is Western New World
OrderHeadquarters?
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:26:09 EDT
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Denver AirPort: Hidden Underground City is Western New World Order
Headquarters?

Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:

  Please read this incredible post.  There is so much going on that I
can't
even begin to summarize it in an introduction.  But one contractor who
"spilled the beans" conveniently commited "Arkancide" and the Queen of
England is going to set up housekeeping there in a covert, hidden,
clandestine underground city beneath the Denver International Air Port.

   Therefore, I don't think that Denver is going to get NBCed any time
soon
unless they want to first exterminate all the rats and vermin and U.S.
Citizens to clear them out and leave it empty for the New World Order
gang of
300 as their NEW World Western Headquarters.

Too incredible to give a polite closing, USCMike1

 NEW WORLD AIRPORT COMMISION.
 Date:  10/10/99 5:49:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clarence H Napier)

 The Queen of England has reportedly been buying up property in Colorado
 under a proxy.
   There is a lot of "secret society" symbology at the airport, an
AWFUL
 lot in fact
   The symbolism apparent in the layout of the new Denver airport,
some
 feel, says that it may be a control center for world
   control
   Specifically, those involved in some very unusual government
projects
 in the past, have remarked that the Denver area is
   where the establishment of the Western sector of the New World
Order
 will be in the United States.
   Denver is of very high altitude and ideal for safe underground
building
   The dedication or capstone of the new Denver Internation Airport
is a
 masonic symbol.
   If you visit the airport's south eastern side of the terminal you
 will find the Masonic Capstone in Granite.
   This part of the terminal is called The Great Hall, which is
known in
 Masonic lingo as their meeting hall.
   On the Masonic Capstone is inscribed NEW WORLD AIRPORT COMMISION.
   An eyewitness who has since "committed suicide" named Phil
Schneider
 was a whistle blower re: Denver International
   Airport's underground facilities
   He helped build the underground facilities and reportedly
"killed"
 himself via a double tie catheter behind his own neck
   strangling himself. It goes without saying that it appears that
he
 was MURDERED.
   Phil also worked on other government underground facilities such
as
 Area 51 and Dulce and more. See
   http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357/ Which is a tribute to Phil,
 although I cannot vouch for the site myself
   In the same general area as the Masonic capstone, there are
Masonic
 designs inlaided in the floor, such as the expression
   DZIT DIT GAII, [anyone know EXACTLY what that means?]
   Phil Schneider's father was a U-boat captain during the NAZI
regime.
   Apparently DZIT DIT GAII refers to the BLACK SUN some sort of
NAZI
 symbology.
   NAZI's apparently were into "BLACK SUN" worship, i.e. Saturn,
i.e.
 Satanism, should not surprise us, I suppose
   There are many murals at the airport of an EXTREMELY grotesque
and
 apocalyptic nature.
   After looking at the murals many come away saying that they may
 represent what the elites plan to do with us and world
   One of the murals depicts 3 caskets containing dead people, each
 person representing people who the elites may want
   dead
   Black woman, a Jewish woman, and an American Indian Woman
   The casket ritual is common in the Skull  Bones Club whose
members
 include George Bush
   In the same mural is shown the destruction of city and forest, a
 little girl holding a Mayan Tablet that predicts destruction
   of Civilization
   Another Mural depicts a green giant "Darth Vader" like figure
wearing
 a gas mask destroying a city
   In this mural women can be seen carrying DEAD BABIES
   Another mural depicts a German boy collecting from all the other
 children of the world, all of the worlds weapons
   the German boy has a HUGE IRON FIST and is pounding all the
weapons
 into plowshares on an anvil
   Operation Paperclip was a plan wherein NAZI's were brought into
the
 US to be brought back into power after being
   financed and appearance altered
   Many German nationals have been seen along Americans in more
 sensitive areas of the airport's underground facilities on
   a regular basis
   The LUFTWAFFE has long had an EXTENSIVE base in New Mexico
complete
 with towns where all signs are in
   GERMAN
   The Artists who made the murals etc in DENVER INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT
 have been interviewed wherein they
  

Re: [CTRL] Hebrew Matrix

1999-10-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Yes we wouldn't want to jump the gun and get into the Age of Aquarius
before time, it could be whackier than now. I think the worst of the
sign builds up in the last degrees - this is judgement day coming and we
haven't reached the Pisces pits yet I'd say. We have to have the
nightmare of the demons coming out of the inner planes and possessing
us, when HAARP finishes cutting all the holes in the barrier for them.
What with that AND holograms, very Age of Pisces don't you think? We
won't know what's real and what isn't.

Nicky



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  For example, we are just leaving Pisces and going into Aquarius.

 Don't hold your breath.  Three and a half CENTURIES to go yet till Aquarius.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Dark rumors from Russia]

1999-10-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Dark rumors
from Russia

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© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

An American businessman in Moscow, the managing director of Matrix
Technologies, recently described conditions in the Russian capital. He
said
the city is heavily patrolled by police and army units. Vehicles are
routinely searched, papers are inspected, civil rights are violated. But
Moscow's police are not simply looking for terrorists. They are also
looking
for "military-aged individuals" and persons with medical experience.
These
are being taken for military training as part of a "general preparation
for
war."
We know that the Russian military began to expand its manpower base in
April,
during the crisis in Kosovo. At that time nearly 170,000 new recruits
were
called up in a special Russian military draft. There were also reports
that
between 80,000 and 100,000 volunteers were recruited to fight NATO in
the
Balkans. Throughout Russia, as well as other former Soviet republics,
there
have been rumors that hundreds of thousands of convicts have been
offered
amnesty in exchange for military service. If you examine the naval and
marine
exercises of the past six months (especially in the context of the
mobilization of Russia's Black Sea Fleet), one cannot escape the
suspicion
that naval and marine reserves have also been mobilized.

We know from Russian press reports that troops of the Interior Ministry
and
Federal Security Service were secretly mobilized last month. Exact
numbers
have not been published, though the strength of MVD and FSS reserve
forces is
probably well over 200,000. What we have inklings of, and what we read
about
in the Russian press, suggests a large-scale military preparation. This
preparation cannot be explained by the situation in Chechnya. After all,
Chechnya is a small place, without a real army or air force. It should
be
pointed out that these Russian mobilizations are too large for the
Chechen
theater of operations.

It is remarkable, in this context, that we are constantly reading of the
weakness of Russia's conventional armed forces. To give one example, we
read
in a Oct. 7 Reuters article by Martin Nesirky that "Russia now finds
itself
short of conventional weapons to fight Chechen guerrillas in its own
backyard." Nesirky writes of a contrast between Russia's "creaking kit
in the
field and shining missiles in silos. ..." But this is an incorrect
characterization. While it is true that Russia has announced plans to
deploy
a second regiment of Topol-M ICBMs this year, and Russia's nuclear
forces are
wonderfully modernized, it is untrue that Russia's conventional forces
lack
equipment.

As it happens, we can deduce the minimum amount of military hardware the
Russians are deploying by doing a little homework.

In November of 1990 the Kremlin signed the Conventional Forces in Europe
treaty (CFE). This treaty limited the Russians to deploying 20,000
battle
tanks, 20,000 artillery tubes, 6,800 combat aircraft, 30,000 other
armored
vehicles, and 2,000 attack helicopters west of the Urals. In this
context, it
has been widely acknowledged that Russia never conformed to the CFE
Treaty.
(Even the Encyclopedia Britannica has numerous articles acknowledging
Russian
noncompliance with CFE.) In fact, the Russian General Staff was blamed
--
early on -- for sabotaging the treaty. In the last few days the Kremlin
has
announced that it is presently exceeding CFE force limits due to the
crisis
in the north Caucasus.

The number of 20,000 tanks is a gigantic figure. It is several times the
number of tanks used by Hitler to invade Russia in 1941. The number of
6,800
combat aircraft is also huge. If Russia is exceeding CFE limits in any
of
these areas then we cannot -- we must not! -- say that Russia has an
under-equipped army.

The military mobilization in Russia is something real. The official
reason
for this mobilization is not to be trusted. As I have said before, far
more
power is being mobilized than would be needed to crush tiny Chechnya. So
what
is up? What are the Russian generals getting ready for?

Members of an American church, who recently returned from mission work
in one
of Russia's largest cities, reported contacts with Russian soldiers.
These
soldiers were "very disturbed" because they believed the present Russian
mobilization is aimed at the United States -- not Chechnya. In a related
report, a recent American visitor to Russia was privately informed by a
Russian military officer that Russia had been preparing for war against
America for 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [MC] Andrja Puharich The Council of Nine]

1999-10-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: [MC] Andrja Puharich  The Council of Nine
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:02:38 -0700
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"The Hathors" in new clothing?  Just another CIA controlled experiment?
Fortean Times; FT126, 1999; Plan Nine From Outer Space, by Lynn
Picknett and Clive Prince, pages 34-39.
(snips)
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its
relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich.  Recent research has
revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side.  As an Army doctor
in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA
mind control project (see panel).  He - together with the infamous Dr.
Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change
or induce actual thought processes . . . even to creating the impression
of voices in the head.  These techniques included the use of drugs,
hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject's brain.
And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same
time that The Nine made their appearance at the Round Table
Foundation.  The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely
funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological
research.  Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s,
when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel.

Puharich's use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine
circle.
In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotized them and
then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine - and, lo, they
were!  Ira Einhorn - a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s -
confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly
directly" The Nine communications.

The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom (KK's: equals
Atum - head of the Nine, all the rest of the Nine used Egyptian names)
and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed
doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment.  And what happened
to that experiment?  Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some
in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success?  Of course,
that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind.  With their subtle
racist propaganda, perhaps the flaky New Age Nine should worry the
hell out of us.

 - - - -
The Panel quotes from David Guyatt's "Police State of Mind"; FT95:34-39.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Terry Milner's unpublished material - which I have
quoted from and labeled private e-mail - is now available in a website:
http://www.hia.com/pcr/

Einhorn's comments are from an interview, August 27, 1998
Geller's comments are from an interview, February 10, 1998

The article notes the role James Hurtak has played with regard to The
Nine:
"Hurtak was second-in-command and 'spiritual leader' of the Ossining
Group (KK's: Puharich's group/home/Round Table Foundation) Group
and occasionally investigated UFO incidents with intelligence
implications or connections.  Via his Academy for Future Sciences
(AFFS), he confirmed that Puharich worked for the US intelligence
services.  Source: private email to the authors from Kim Farmer of
AFFS, 24, Sept 1998."

Notes on Uri Geller: "Geller's position on the events has been that,
as he was in hypnotic trance when channeling, he cannot vouch for
the reliability of either the information or its source.  He does,
however,
confirm some of the paranormal events that surrounded him and
Puharich during their partnership, which Puharich has attributed to
The Nine.  But faced with the sheer pointlessness of these events,
Geller himself - in August 1972 - was moved to muse that, if
extraterrestrials were indeed responsible, they would seem to be
'a civilisation of clowns'".  Source: Puharich, "Uri."  Geller 
Playfair, The Geller Effect."

Notes on Jack Sarfatti:  "Sarfatti, an avant-garde physicist who
worked for the Esalen Institute in the late 1970s, knew many of
the key players at Lab Nine, including Puharich.  In autobiographical
writings on the web, Sarfatti refers to intelligence connections
of Puharich and others involved in the Nine scene, including
their involvement in CIA mind-control research.  Source:
Sarfatti's homepage: www.hia.com/pcr/
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[CTRL] Galactic War III

1999-10-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/4354/galactic_war.htm

   Galactic War III  by Steve Omar/En
Mar

The interplanetary landlords of this fallen planet realized that power
and domination only increases in proportion to ignorance.

There were thousands of people who fought and died during the last world
war, who died never really understanding what they had
fought and died for. The deeper truths from World War Two were hidden in
secret archives because they were too incredible for the
masses. Most of the historians who recorded what happened during that
global war never revealed most of what had really happened. Yet
there were a few historians who glimpsed an incredible truth..so amazing
that they never wrote about it because they themselves could not
even comprehend it. Others who gazed on incredible revelations were
afraid to release the truth, some fearing the readers would never
comprehend it and others fearing the specter of the Iluminati that
suppressed it from their educational institutions. lt was too
bizarresounding like something out of a science fiction movie. Yet
these hidden secrets were too important and immense for us to ignore
and began leaking out through confiscated Nazi diaries, Naval
intelligence agents who gazed at secret documents, and witnesses who
talked before risking taking their secrets to their graves. In the early
1970s agents of Xian lnternational's Department of Mind, a civilian
central intelligence expose agency, began to decipher the pieces of this
super-puzzle...one of the biggest mysteries in the eons of
timeand one of the greatest secrets of the last two millenniums.

Why haven't the average citizens of the nations of the 1990s heard this
alternative version of World War Two? The answer to that
question comes partly from Hitler himself when he declared, "the real
destiny of Man is something that ordinary men could not conceive of
and would be unable to stomach if given a glimpse of it. Our revolution
is a final stage in an evolution that will end by abolishing history.
My party comrades have no conception of the dreams that haunt my mind or
of the grandiose edifice of which the foundations, at least,
will have been laid before I die. The world has reached a turning point,
and will undergo an upheaval which you uninitiated people cannot
understand."

The aforementioned words were told to Nazi Party members who Hitler
believed were not even ready for his heavy truths. The last world
war was not simply a war fought between the Allies and the Axis or
Democracy and Despotism. It was a war fought between Science and
Magic, and science won. It was also the planetary battlefield of
Galactic War III, when alien civilizations sponsoring the Nazis and
alien
civilizations sponsoring the Americans fought once again for control of
planet Earth .. while using its unsuspecting armies as pawns in
their interstellar conflict. It is a well documented publicized fact
that Hitler often went into trances and spoke to his military
commanders.
His chair press officer, Dr. Dietrich testified his belief that Hitler
was possessed by demons. Hitler told his High Command his belief in the
Superman who had ruled the planet in the times of Atlantis and Thule,
and after the war of the gods that led to the fall of Atlantis the
Superman, who were the Masters of the World, had gone underground.
Hitler said he took his orders for the Nazi conquest from the
Superman who lived inside the Earth. In a conversation with, Governor
Rausching, a man who tried to tell the Nazi Leader of the great
difficulty of genetically creating a new species, Hitler replied "The
New Man is living among us now! He is here! Isn't that I enough for
you? I will tell you a secret. I have seen the New Man. He is intrepid
and cruel. I was afraid of him!

However, the Sirian Orion conflict had been raging across the galaxy for
millenniums. Mars and Mercury had been in the second
intergalactic War here, victims of nuclear devastation, Maldek had been
blown into the asteroid belt, and planets In the Pleiades, Orion,
and in other systems had become nuclear wastelands. Earth had seen two
nuclear wars in the last 13,000 years and the Sirians and Orions
were bringing in the technology for a third.

In the early 1930s a group of human aliens, the K-Group or Kondroskans,
had secretly contacted President Franklin Delanor Roosevelt and
offered technological aid in return for a treaty. Little is known here
about that proposal. However, apparently the Pentagon and civilian
military  affiliated scientists broke the agreement and the K-Group
abandoned the Americans claiming they abused the technology and
agreement.

ln the late 19th Century and early 20th century the great scientist
Nikola Tesla was reportedly contacted by the Pleiadeans and their
Venusian based allies, and given the technology that led to his
invention of the AC/DC electric current dozens of electronic devices

[CTRL] World grid line activation methods and global spirituality of Robt Muller.

1999-10-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

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The first half of this post are words from the villans themselves on
what they are hoping for in combining physics and consciousness and
their hopes to get us into the next dimension and to herald the arrival
of the Annuki etc etc
We can point the finger at this mess to Robert Muller formerly the under
secetary of UN who follows the spirit guide Djwhal Khul , Alice Bailey
used to channel him - He is  Tibetan..

The second half are posts from Christian sites who see the dangers of
the first posts. So if you can't grasp the first ones and what they are
up to with physics to change the consciousnes of mankind, then please
read the second posts for clarity.
Nicky


Dan Winter
Inventor, Author, Visionary

http://www.earthportals.com/Earthportals/Portal_Messenger/danlove.html

EartHeat 2000 Project Summary

Our friends have been involved for over ten years with projects designed
to facilitate global coherent emotion, connecting the magnetic feeling
ring of human glands/love with the very magnetic fabric of the Earth's
body. The first of these was called the Harmonic Module. A group of us
all flew to one of the world's most advanced laboratory laserium, Laser
Fantasy in Seattle. There, with the help of Robert Muller, we connected
EKG elecktrodes from friends feeling resonance with each other, directly
to the gimble mirror laser projectors. At the moments of phase lock in
resonance entrainment between heartbeats, the laser display would
momentarily go into a pattern akin to an oscilloscope lissajous. The
geometry of the shape of the waveform's momentary stability would
indicate the musical harmonics of the two heartbeats, making a musical
chord, as it were. So Sitchen got it right that proper grid engineering
for planetary atmosphere maintenance required gold dust as a magnetic
dopant (Seed
of perfected embeddedness, in the liquid going to crystal). We need now
to go on to understand that the ability of our planet to contain gold,
was evidence of perfect intention in the original stellar grid cats
cradle woven of gravity threads to birth this place. And the higher
significance of this presence of sustainable envelopement (fire of
awareness) in our grid, enabled the evolution of sentience here in a new
way.

http://www.earthportals.com/Earthportals/Portal_Messenger/winter.html

In the Incunabula experiments as reported, a colony of people was set up
at another time in history because our genepools end was foreseen. I
have had no particular
reports of damage to the etheric fabric of the planet by these
experiments. However, analogous but more destructive experiments with
sexual energy in antenna arrays was carried out labeled "Montauk
Project". Here indeed major damage was done to the delicate nest
capacitance of Earth's etheric web. Groups like William Buehlers working
with major angelic.. Ophanim lineages, invested major energy in
repairing these bleeding wounds to our collective electric genetic body.
The ability of our genepool to harvest spin capacitively from
galactic spaces is/was in the balance. Our collected love juices make
the ultimate antenna array.This is what I see as the rub of the
Incunabula.. here is a lesson in conserving spin paths from love, to
make a memory envelope for the harvest of spin. This sounds a bit
abstract, but in a more practical way, it may mean that a only this
centering force may harvest our collective memories home. Individually,
yes tantra properly antennaed is shamanic time travel. But COLLECTIVELY,
the juices of love are probably the only sling shot for memory to get
all our memories speeded up in a bubble. For 10
years our little core group of Electric dreamers has been talking about
the Harmonic Module.. Feed back of EKG, breath, and Schuman planet
heartbeat over global media, would precipitate concensu process/
collective mind. Adding intention to eros and synchronized love in the
proper Earth grid dodeca antenna points, would likely be a shoe horn
path for global memories to be one envelope... sent home.
Global TV, here we come.

deca delta antenna..
cocoon..
montauk..
incunablula..
swaddling clothes..
cocoon and chrysalis..

( Sounds like he's another aging hippy connected with UN, who has had
too much LSD - Nicky)

http://www.earthportals.com/Earthportals/Portal_Messenger/danbio.html

Dan Winter "world grid system reorganiser for the New Millenium".
Credentials - FINDHORN! Heaven help us.

Background:

Dan's background is as multidisciplinary as his viewpoint. Graduating
with honors at Jesuit University of Detroit, he pursued graduate studies
in psychophysiology, and the origins of languages. His occupations have
included Systems Analyst with IBM, industrial metallurgist and
crystalographer. He's worked in the pyraminds, in the Andes, in Florence
with Bucky Fuller, studied at Findhorn, in the Gurdjieff School of
sacred gymnastics, and graphic 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Danite Irish]

1999-10-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Danite Irish
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:51:32 +0200
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In ancient times the israelite Tribe of Dan settled on the southeast
coast
of Israel, in the northern Galilee, and in southeast Turkey where they
had
their own independent kingdom. They were neighbored in southeast
Turkey by a colony from Judah known as "Yadi."
At one stage the Danites conquered much of present-day Turkey and parts
of
ancient Greece. They influenced the traditions and culture of those
regions
but did
not settle there in great numbers.
Some Danites settled in Ireland where they were known as Tuatha de
Danaan or
"Tribe of Dana." They also settled in Celtic Britain and in Welsh
tradition
are known as the people of Don.
Danites were also in Scythia and from Scythia they moved to Denmark
and many Danes are descended from Dan.


The following post is of interest. On the one hand I do not agree with
all
of it,
on the other it has points that suplement what I wrote concerning
Dan and the Dananu (of southeast Turkey in ancient times) in my book
"Lost Israelite Identity."

I have a personal difficulty in accepting the Israelite origin of the
Spartans.
Something does not mesh.
But I may be wrong.

English historians tended to identify with the Athenians, German
historians
favored Sparta.
Relatively speaking Athens was democratic and open minded, Sparta
was military-minded, regimented, disciplined,
deliberately oppressive to its subject population,
and glorified cruel harshness. They were also brave and militarily
proficient.

From: "Arrano Beltza" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here may be something of interest:

The Danites of Bashan and Ir Shemesh (Mesopotamian Shamash/Canaanite Baal,
sun god) were seafarers (Judges 5: 17) closely allied with
Teukroi/Greeks (Javan, Ezekiel 27: 19). Dannanni was also Hebrew for Dan.
They were a Sea People, recognizably the Denyen/Danuna/Danaja and
Danaoi/Danaans of Greece, having leapt from Bashan as a lion's whelp
(Deuteronomy 33: 22) to the Aegean and Mediterranean isles. Adana, Dankuwa,
Kue/Qawe (1), and Ura (2) were earlier settlements of theirs in Anatolia
(Cilician region). Before the 6th century BC, in the aftermath of extensive
journeys, they took possession of Ireland (Eriu/Eire, the Danite Ir and
Ura), appearing as the Tuatha de Danann. Tribal members were the Kauki
(Qawe) and the Ui Neill. Don and Danu were Irish deities. Hebraic 'dan' and
Gaelic 'dun' have a similar definition: 'to judge'. The Danuna worshiped
Baal, who was Bel/Belinus to the Irish Celts. A ruler of theirs, Azitawadda,
is recorded as claiming a bond to the House of Mopsos in an unusually long
inscription dug from Turkish Karatepe in 1943 by an expedition of the
University of Istanbul (3). The following information is in Trude and Moshe
Dothan's "People of the Sea", pages 215-216-"As for the Danuna, there lies a
tale of great fascination. It relates to the story of Samson and Delilah,
the inspiration for so much great art (and a number of banal cinema
spectacles). In 1956, Professor Yigael Yadin published an article in which
he tried to assess Samson, not only in light of the Biblical narrative, but
in light of Greek legend and archaeological evidence as well. This was just
at the time we were working together at the excavations at Hazor and,
needless to say, the subject intrigued us all. In Hebrew tradition, Samson
was a revered judge, although in fact he was a fun-loving frolicker with the
girls next door and loved to plague the boys with riddles...we noted that
the legend of Samson and Delilah closely resembled the story of the Megaran
king Nisus, whose power-giving lock of red hair was shorn by his deceitful
daughter Scylla, when she betrayed him to King Minos of Crete. There is
another myth of relevance to Samson, the myth of the riddle-loving
Mopsos...noted for having defeated the Greek sage Calchas in a contest of
riddles. He was also known as a traveler for whom numerous cities and cult
places were named...The last version of his biography was preserved by the
fifth-century B.C. Lydian historian Xanthus. Xanthus placed Mopsos's
greatest feat at the Philistine city of Ashkelon, where Mopsos cast the
local goddess and her son into the pond of the city, thereby destroying the
power of the local cult...In his article Yadin attempted to explain Samson's
unique attributes. Samson he noted, was different from the other Hebrew
judges in a number of ways. For one, his raids and rampages against the
Philistines were not meant to defend either his own tribe...or the Israelite
confederacy: they were aimed solely at avenging personal insults and
injuries...No other Hebrew judge, Yadin went on, was remembered for his
physical prowess...as were the Greek heroes. Samson's spiritual
strength...was of a completely different nature: he delighted in posing
riddles. In this respect he resembled Mopsos. But there were other
parallels. His 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [MC] Time Antenna = MC Remedy from Torsion finger shock phenomenon extension?]

1999-10-14 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: [MC] Time Antenna = MC Remedy from Torsion "finger shock
phenomenon" extension?
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:44:17 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "David Crockett Williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "a SpirWbList - Science  Spirituality"
[EMAIL PROTECTED],"Mind Control List"
[EMAIL PROTECTED],"Antigrav-list" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This below referenced url was posted recently on the serious
http://www.egroups.com/group/antigrav list.  For those who care to
tinker in
these things, an additional experiment might be to replicate the "time
antenna" claimed by Preston Nichols (in his book "The Montauk Project"
about
covert extensions of Philadelphia Experiment physics to time travel,
mind/machine interfaces, direct materialization of physical objects,
etc.)
to have aided suppressed memory recovery by simply holding a related
configuration of wire similar to that described below but with no center
wire, rather a full octahedral array of wire instead of the half
octahedral
pyramid as described below.

This "time antenna", Nichols maintains, helped him by simply holding it
in
his hands to recover his memory lost by covert tech ops while he was
working
in EM induced altered memory state as project engineer at Montauk Point
deep
black ops research on advanced EM technologies.  His claim is that this
array apparently somehow enables a small degree of connection by the
holder
to the "zero time" experience of the sailors/subjects of the
Philadelphia
Experiment where the USS Eldridge purportedly disappeared and reappeared
in
the early 1940's in experiments to try to render the ship invisible to
radar
but the equipment was to powerful and the ship dematerialized and
rematerialized later, killing most of the crew but those who survived
had a
full "zero time" experience which drove all but one or two of them mad
to
suicide etc but the survivor became a complete empath hooked up to
equipment
in the Monatauk Project Experiments which connected directly to his
mental
processes under hypnosis, so the story goes.

There may be nothing to it, but it is a really simple device to make
with
wire and test and in any case this is what came to mind from reading the
below at midnight.   If "mental programming" "mind control" stories are
in
some cases valid, perhaps this "time antenna" octahedral array may be
worth
experimenting with in light of new torsion field theoretical physics
understandings, and biological influences/effects as below described, in
order to recover lost memory or even perhaps to neutralize hypnotic
suggestions.

But if there is anything to this idea, could it help recall suppressed
memories of scary encounters (metallic voices or ufo's?) buried by some
trauma or external mental instruction?  If so, would documentation of
these
kinds of recall enhancement experiences lend any credence or insights to
Nichols' other claims about Montauk technologies?

Among his claims is their creation of a "time tunnel" that transported
equipment and teams to and from selected times and places in the future
and
that the movie/TV-show called "Stargate" is loosely patterned after that
secret experiment and their others covertly funded by US(CIA?)
unaccounted
capture of a huge shipment of Nazi gold bullion after WWII.

Observably, science history quite closely follows behind science
fiction.

To "make it so", do we just add some more science or must we also remove
some of the friction?

BTW for those with deeper understandings of the nature of coincidence,
in
the name of leading 20th century experimental physicist Bruce E. DePalma
http://www.depalma.pair.com the E stands for Eldridge.

(E=mcC?)   "May The Force Be With You":  Oh-Be-One, Can-You-Be?


-begin url referenced above:

http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/tors/pyrademo.txt
[shades of "pyramid power"?]-dcw

TORSION "FINGER SHOCK" PHENOMENON  --  1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The "shape effect"

The "shape effect" produced by torsion fields can be felt by most people
(without any detectors). For instance, try to make (or have somebody
make) a
skeletal wire pyramid having the following proportions. The base of the
pyramid is a square. If the side of this square is equal to 1, then the
height of a pyramid is equal to 0.618. That's the proportions of the
Great
Pyramid, the pyramid of Cheops exactly.) The pyramid may consist of
edges
only, e.g. it can be made of copper wire. The height of the pyramid
(e.g.
the segment of copper wire that connects the top of the pyramid and the
center of its base) should be made also. If the side of the base of the
pyramid has the size 20cm, then the height = 12.36 cm. The central wire
is
attached to the apex, and extends downwards to the center of the base,
and
the lower end of this wire attaches to nothing. OK to use solder to
construct this. To prevent curving of the wires, use thick wires (2mm -
4mm
diameter.)

Hold the pyramid by its 

[CTRL] [Fwd: FT WORTH SLAUGHTER]Newshawk

1999-10-14 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: FT WORTH SLAUGHTER
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:06:10 +
From: Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Organization: Watchword

Subject:
 FT WORTH SLAUGHTER
Date:
 Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:32:10 EDT
   From:
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Below is an excellent, thought-provoking analysis of the Ft. Worth
church shootings one month ago. The writer calls special attention to
the undeniably unusual video of the entire slaughter "found" afterward
by law enforcement.

Also noted below is that CNN Radio News broadcast an item stating
alleged Ft. Worth gunman Larry Ashbrook was heard while shooting to be
yelling that the government needed to enforce gun control and stop gun
shows!

Eh... WHAT???

Some "leaky" programming here, it appears!


NewHawk® Inc.


-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

THE  FOLLOWING   ARTICLE --
http://www.konformist.com/1999/ftworth-jq.htm --
MAKES  MANY  RELEVANT  POINTS  ABOUT  THE  FT. WORTH INCIDENT.

AN  ADDITIONAL  POINT  THAT  I  FOUND  STRANGE  IS  THAT  SOMEONE
HAPPENED
TO  BE  VIDEOTAPING  THE  CHURCH  CEREMONY  THAT  DAY.  THIS  PERSON
CONTINUED  TO  TAPE  ASHBROOK  WHILE  HE  WAS  SHOOTING,  AT  LEAST
UNTIL
THE  GUN  IS  POINTED  IN  THE  DIRECTION  OF  THE  VIDEOGRAPHER,  WHO
THEN
DROPS  THE  CAMERA.

THE  VIDEO  CAMERA  WITH  INTACT  TAPE  IS  FOUND  IN  THE  CHURCH
LATER  BY  POLICE AND  THE  TAPE  IS  SHOWN  TO  DOCUMENT  THE
SLAUGHTER.

STRANGELY,  THE  POLICE  CAN  NOT  DETERMINE  WHO  OWNS  THE  CAMERA,
AS  NO  ONE  ADMITS  TO  BEING  THE  OWNER.  I  EVEN  READ  IN  ONE  OF
THE  NEWS  MAGAZINES  THAT  2  VIDEO  CAMERAS  WERE  FOUND,  THOUGH
THAT MAY  REPRESENT  SIMPLE  MISREPORTING. OR  MAYBE  THEY  JUST  CAN'T
GET  THE  STORY  STRAIGHT.

I SUSPECT  THAT  THE  TAPE  WAS  INTENDED  TO  DOCUMENT  THE  EVENT  IN
ORDER  TO  CRITIQUE  THE  RESULTS  OF  THE  MIND  CONTROL  PROJECT
AND/OR  TO  BE  USED  AS  VIVID  ANTI-GUN  FOOTAGE  WHEN  IT  WAS
BROADCAST  BY   THE   MEDIA.

PERHAPS  THE VIDEO  WAS  UNINTENTIONALLY  LEFT  BEHIND  WHEN  THE
VIDEOGRAPHER  PANICKED  AS   THE  GUN  WAS  POINTED  HIS  WAY,  OR
MAYBE  IT  WAS  INTENDED  TO  BE   FOUND.

EVEN  MORE  BIZZARRE,  I  HEARD  ON  CNN  HOURLY  RADIO  NEWS  ABOUT
3AM
2  WEEKS  AGO  THAT  ON  THE  VIDEO  ASHBROOK  IS  HEARD  TO  YELL
THAT  THE  GOVERNMENT  HAS  TO  START  ENFORCING  GUN  LAWS  AND  BAN
GUN  SHOWS.  THIS  WAS  SO  CRAZY   THAT  I  JUMPED  OUT  OF  BED!

IF  HE  DID  SAY  THIS,  HE  WAS   CLEARLY  PROGRAMMMED  TO  DO  SO.
IF  HE  DID  NOT  SAY  IT,  CNN IS  LYING  THRU  ITS  CORPORATE  NEW
WORLD  ORDER  TEETH.  I  HAVE  NOT  SEEN  THE  VIDEO  BROADCAST,  SO
I  CAN  NOT  VERIFY THIS.  BUT  I  KNOW  WHAT  I  HEARD  ON  CNN!


QUESTION:  HOW  MANY   LONE  NUTS  SLAUGHTERING  CHILDREN  AND
CHURCHGOERS  DOES  IT  TAKE  TO  ENGINEER  SEVERE  GUN  CONTROL?

ANSWER:  AS  MANY  AS  THEY  NEED.

I  THINK  OF  EAST  TIMOR  AS  AN  EXAMPLE  OF  A  SOCIETY  WHERE  ONLY
GOVERNMENT-BACKED  THUGS  HAVE  THE  WEAPONS.  NO  CHANCE  OF
SELF-DEFENSE  WHEN  THEY  COME  AROUND  TO  HERD  YOU LIKE  SHEEP  TO
THE
SLAUGHTER. AND  AMERICANS,  LIKE  DULL  SHEEP  ARE  BEING  LED  DOWN
THE  PRIMROSE  PATH  OF GUN  CONTROL  BECAUSE  THE   MEDIA  AND
POLITICIANS  ARE
TELLING  THEM  THAT TOO  MANY  GUNS  ARE  TO  BLAME  FOR  THIS  PATTERN
OF  SLAYINGS  THAT  ARE  OBVIOUSLY  INTENDED  TO  PRESS UPON  THE MOST
SENSITIVE  NERVES  IN  THE  PUBLIC  CONSCIOUSNESS.


AL

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Ritual Killing of the Divine King - Part I]

1999-10-14 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Ritual Killing of the Divine King - Part I
   Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:58:56 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: The Watchmen
From: Watch Unto Prayer
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Website: http://watch.pair.com/pray.html
Date: October 14, 1999 RITUAL KILLING OF THE DIVINE KING - PART I The
latest clue in the assassination mystery unraveled by Barry Chamish's
online book, Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin, links it to the modern Knights
Templars.  This is no surprise to those who are aware of the designs
which the modern Freemasons have on the Holy Land, i.e., to seize the
Temple Mount and remake Jerusalem a Masonic city from which they intend
to rule the world.  To appreciate the enormity of the dominionist
ambition and influence of modern Freemasonry, you will want to read
Barry's update on the Rabin assassination.  It seems that the coroner
who presided over Yitzhak Rabin's autopsy also conducted another autopsy
on one Alisdair Rosslyn Sinclair -- a blue blood Knight Templar who
would have been a front runner in the Merovingian campaign for election
as the King of Jerusalem.
  YITZHAK RABIN
  A.RABIN'S LAST DOCTOR by Barry Chamish

We now enter the realm of the truly bizarre as we look at the doctor
who
last examined Yitzhak Rabin, the State Pathologist, Dr. Yehuda Hiss.
Israelis know too well that their government's coroner is corrupt. In
September 1999, Judge Ruth Orr overturned a conviction against a Jewish
resident of Judea and Samaria for the shooting murder of an Arab boy
because
she accused Dr. Hiss of forging the forensic evidence against him. It
was
the second time in a year that a murder conviction was overturned
because
Hiss had falsified an autopsy for political purposes. He had earlier
been
caught doctoring the facts to secure a wrongful rap against the parents
of a
murdered child.
His biggest fabrication of all occurred after the country's most
ghastly
scandal was proven. In the first decade of Israel's existence, the Labor

government kidnapped over 4500 babies, mostly of new Yemenite immigrant
parents, and sold them off for adoption and medical experiments, mostly
abroad. Through the efforts of Yemenite groups fighting to expose this
crime, three years ago one mother, Margalit Omeisse was reunited with
her
daughter Celia Levine, given up for adoption to a California couple
almost
half a century before. Besides looking like twins, the Hebrew University

genetics laboratory proved they were mother and daughter by DNA testing.
Dr.
Hiss retested the two for the government and lo and behold, found that
Hebrew University was wrong.
And that's why his nickname in certain circles is Dr. Coverup.
People started calling him that about a year after the Rabin
assassination. He conducted a partial autopsy of Rabin and concluded he
was
shot twice in the back from medium range. In 1996, Rabin's hospital
records
were uncovered and over ten doctors and nurses signed very different
accounts of Rabin's demise. He was actually shot three times, twice from

point blank range and once frontally in the upper chest. On top of that,

Rabin's spine was shattered and Hiss categorically reported that it
wasn't.
Because the patsy Yigal Amir never shot from point blank range or from
the
front, and because the assassination film proved Rabin's spine could not

have been broken since he kept right on walking after the shot to his
back,
somebody must have asked Hiss to alter the medical facts. So he did and
then
the government's commission of inquiry into the murder adopted Hiss's
lies
as the official version of Rabin's death.
So we knew that Hiss was corrupt and that he molded his reports to
fit
government orders. What we didn't know was that he is also genuinely
ghoulish. Avi and Nitzana (Darshan) Leitner are Yigal Amir's attorneys.
They
also represent another victim of Dr. Hiss, the family of Alisdair
Sinclair.
On April 14, 1998, 47 year old Alisdair Sinclair, was stopped by
customs
officials at Ben Gurion Airport on his way out of the country after a
six
day stay. They found 9000 Deutsche marks in a false bottom of his
handbag
and he was arrested without charge. The police thought the false bottom
suggested something illegal though hiding a large amount of money is a
legitimate means of thwarting theft.
At the airport police station, Sinclair was found strangling on his
shoelaces. He was rushed to hospital and pronounced dead. From there his

body was transferred to the Abu Kabir Institute For Forensic Medicine
and
straight into the paws of Dr. Yehuda Hiss, who conducted an autopsy
which
concluded that Sinclair had killed himself.
After that, there was a problem with the body. Sinclair was
unmarried,
his parents weren't alive and he had been living a rather rootless life
in
Amsterdam dealing in vintage guitars and strumming them at local 

[CTRL] UFOs, Nazis and the occult

2000-03-31 Thread Nicola Molloy

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/A -Cui Bono?-

The reclusive Gerry Vassilatos, author of an intriguing alternative look
at
HAARP (Secrets of Cold War Technology: Project HAARP and Beyond,
Borderland, http://www.borderlands.com/catalog) postulating that HAARP
is
an energy generator rather than a weapon) and ground communications
experimenter (see An Introduction to the Mysteries of Ground Radio,
http://borderlands.com/newstuff/research/ground-myst.htm and Experiment:
Ground Antennas,
http://borderlands.com/newstuff/research/ground-ant.htm),
will make a rare public appearance. Should be interesting.

LAURA LEE E-NEWS
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Tuesday April 4
Gerry Vassilatos: UFOs, Nazis, and Beyond
A look at evidence from the last World War that the Nazi Regime made
some progress in designing and building 'flying saucers' based on the
subtle energy principles of Vrill and Viktor Schauberger. He also
describes the Nazi preoccupation with the occult.
http://www.lauralee.com/vassilat.htm

Wednesday April 5
Gerry Vassilators: UfO's Nazis, and Beyond Continued
http://www.lauralee.com/vassilat.htm

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Re: [CTRL] What are we to believe?

2000-04-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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What part are you struggling with Joshua? I don't expect all Israelis
would be conned by this, but you know what some physicists are like -
trying to combine the occult with science as a form of religion. It's
all Neptunian trickery to me and I think there would be a few Jews
interested if an 'ET' Messiah was coming that wasn't the real thing.
They could at least keep an eye out for more on this, just as we
Christians keep finding out the mainstream religious leaders are
actually following another religion.

http://www.thehope.org/AOJPAPER.htm#KAB
http://www.thehope.org/TORENOW0.htm

You may want to check this site out and see the references to eg Barbara
Marx Hubbard and James {GAIA} Lovelock.  Is this Jewish? nope. I think
Moses would roll in his grave if he saw what has become of Genesis
lately. Scientific Kaballah using harmonics is not a replacement for the
religion Moses was given.

Nicky



Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Why O' Great Trumpeter?
 FWP.

 On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
  /A -Cui Bono?-
 
  4/4/00
 
  This stuff is ridiclous.
 
  Joshua2
  =
  Nicky Molloy wrote:
  
   -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
   /A -Cui Bono?-
  
   I may have posted this already, but I have some Kabballah posts and would
   like you to see who is doing what with the Kabballah, regarding the return
   of the 'Messiah'? arranged by Dr James Hurtak's Et masters to come about in
   Jerusalem..It appears that an Israeli Kabbalist seems to be following a
   similar philosophy to Hurtak with the regathering of the 12 tribes in Israel
   in anticipation of this event.
  
   http://www.thehope.org/futmyth.htm
  
   REALIZING THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM

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[CTRL] THE ENIGMA CHANNEL OPENS MESSAGE BOARD FOR UFO RESEARCHERS

2000-04-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date sent:  Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:27:43 -0800
Subject:THE ENIGMA CHANNEL OPENS MESSAGE BOARD FOR UFO
RESEARCHERS
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Christopher Everard, THE ENIGMA CHANNEL

Hello,

The Enigma Channel broadcasts documentaries, movies and trailers about
UFOs, Crop Circles and Earth Mysteries 24 hours a day for FREE on the
world wide web.

Our Message Board is available to UFO researchers all over the world
for advertising events, groups and newsletters. It's FREE.

Please go to www.enigmatv.com and click on the purple and orange
Enigma Channel logo and click on the right-hand CONTACTS button on the
viewing page to access the Message Board.

You need Quicktime 4, a 56K modem and Microsoft Internet Explorer to
watch The Enigma Channel. All this software can be downloaded for free
from www.enigmatv.com

We are currently showing trailers of many fascinating UFO
documentaries which can be purchased from our Cyberstore.

Look out for two new fantastic UFO documentaries from The Enigma
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Re: [CTRL] Abortion news

2000-04-06 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Prudy,

That will be the Asian immigrants. I'm a NZer and as far as I know the
Maoris have never been generally called an 'ethnic minority'. If our
Prime Minister called the Maoris an 'ethnic minority' the comedians
would still be laughing about in a years time. Technically they may be
but every Maori has some European blood now. We have pretty much escaped
the whites stealing the land and letting the native peoples dwindle saga
compared to other countries.The Maoris intregated well in taking on a
new lifestyle. But have kept their tradition as well a lot - it isn't
exactly 50/50 but we enjoy Maori input, they do have talent. I prev
lived in a city with 51% Maori population. It became a multi racial
society with equal opportunity available. Thank goodness. Its too small
a country for them to escape integration, only 3 1/2 million now. Maori
are about 1/6, present English immigrants about 1/7, [many more from
English forefathers], Irish descendants about 1/7. I'd estimate the
Scots would have about the same if not more than Irish, with the rest
Welsh and Dutch.

 But we do have many Koreans, Fijian Indians, and others from Asia here,
whom are labeled 'ethnic minority' in the newspapers. I would be very
surprised to find the Maoris doing gender based abortions, they would
have no reason to like the Asians do, who have no welfare for the
oldies. Maori men and women seem reasonably balanced in power as far as
other counties go. [Just ignore Once Were Warriors lol - Maori women are
not generally wimps.]  But lately we have had an exodus from South
Africa, Pacific Islands and Yugoslavia.

Nicky

Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

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  The Medical Association says it has anecdotal evidence that some ethnic
  minorities are terminating their foetuses once they are told it is female. 

 New Zealand has no such ethnic minority that I've ever heard of.  The Maori
 are not gender biased, or if they are it's never been discussed a lot.  Now
 the other New Zealanders tend to be from England.  They don't seem to get
 really riled up there over whether it's a boy or a girl.  I think someone is
 pulling your leg.  Prudy



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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Nicola Molloy

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/A -Cui Bono?-

Well there's being a born again Christian and being practical and never
the twain shall meet. Ted probably convinced her we are overpopulated as
he said when the Applewhite suicides occured that we had too much
population.

All one has to do to be a Christian is to live the way of simplicity and
to focus on the inner life and overcoming one's evil plus treating
others kindly. But first accepting Jesus as a help to reaching God. If
people think they can do it alone fine, but its a dangerous universe and
we have millions of years of inherited and past life bad habits to
transmute. I'm happy to have a leg up. I was trained as an occultist and
then faced the forces of evil and I'm staying right by my Protector
forever now. Praise the Lord I'm almost humble now - Prefer Mother
Teresa as an ideal than Dion Fortune. May be a better afterlife eh?
Josh wouldn't agree with this ;^)
Nicky

 Foxter wrote:

 So much for her being a born again Christian, a rumor heard a few
 months ago when she left Ted.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Well Bill,

 All I can say is hang the romance, people should sign a form stating
what exactly should be done with the kid should one appear from the
union.Then start the action. I recommend everyone watch the movie
Gattica about having kids.
In fact men should wear a label with their DNA problems just to be even
more practical and the woman can give any impending fling a really good
think. Having weighed up the pros and cons it may not seem like a good
idea after all and then we could have no abortions.

Nicky




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  Truth is truth whether one is a self-professed Christian or not.  

 Truth is that I, Bill Shannon, would DECREE that a woman's RIGHT to CHOOSE
 extend to the 10th monthgive prospective parents a "one-month grace
 period"...LOL

 And BTW, a woman's RIGHT to CHOOSE is MY "litmus test"...we can bargain on
 the 10th month thing...But IMHO, pro-choice=pro-American! And the rest of you
 can preach your superstitious nonsense and paraphysical pablum all you
 want...the FACT remains that, by OVERWHELMING margins the American people
 believe with the fact that personal freedom extends to the womb...of the BORN!

 Bill.



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[CTRL] NICK BEGICH - EARTH RISING BOOK REVIEW-- MORE DEVASTATING THAN HAARP

2000-04-07 Thread Nicola Molloy

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[RuMills] NICK BEGICH -- REVIEW OF HIS BOOK EARTH RISING --
MORE
  DEVASTATING THAN HAARP
 Date:
  Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:27:20 -0700
 From:
  "Rayelan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  "RU MILLS" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY===
Thanks to Pat for sending this ---

Hi:

This is a copy of the message sent out earlier this year about the
publication of "Earth Rising"...

Pat Mougey

Earth Rising ? The Revolution:
Toward a Thousand Years of Peace

ISBN: 1-890693-43-X   5.5"x8.5" Softcover, $17.95 List, 300
pages

By Dr. Nick Begich and James Roderick

Earth Rising ? The Revolution: Toward a Thousand Years of
Peace is about technology and its impact on humanity. This
book is about the basis of freedom, human dignity, sovereign
individuality and self-determination. The material will be
shocking to all. This is an exposé on technological advances
which may reshape the destiny of mankind in the next
millennium. This book covers a number of separate areas with
extensive documentation from government, academic and major
media reports including:

o The Revolution in Military Affairs and its impact on
freedom.

o Mind control and the manipulation of human health through
the use of drugs, electromagnetic weapons and other means.

o Non-lethal weapons and their use and impact on people.

o Environmental and weather control.

o New technologies which will virtually eliminate privacy
from the world scene.

o Militarization of law enforcement around the country.

o The HAARP story is updated, showing additional evidence of
the military's plans to manipulate the environment.

The book concludes with solutions that could be initiated in
the next few years which could change the implications of
these technologies from negative to positive. This book
carries a message about our humanity and our reach toward
higher purposes.

We are spirit, energy, atoms, molecules, chemicals, cells,
body organs and components and then we are body. These new
technologies attack the very essence of who we are ? they
attack the very foundation of our being by wounding the
human spirit.

The computer problems which have captured the attention of
the world as we leave this millennium have made us all
question technology and its impact on the world. We will not
know the results for a few weeks of what the transition
means and it is not the subject of this book ? technology is
the subject. In each potential disaster there are even
greater possibilities for solutions which redeem the human
spirit and will help propel us into the next century. This
book is about those solutions.

Earthpulse Press, Inc.; PO Box 201393; Anchorage, Alaska,
99520, USA
Voice: 1-888-690-1277; International 1-907-249-9111: Fax
Orders: 1-907-696-1277
Web: www.earthpulse.com


About the Authors


 Dr. Nick Begich is the eldest son of the late United
States Congressman from Alaska, Nick Begich Sr., and
political activist Pegge Begich. He is well known in Alaska
for his own political activities. He was twice elected
President of both the Alaska Federation of Teachers and the
Anchorage Council of Education. He has been pursuing
independent research in the sciences and politics for most
of his adult life. Begich received his doctorate in
traditional medicine from The Open International University
for Complementary Medicines in November, 1994.

 He co-authored the book Angels Don't Play This HAARP;
Advances in Tesla Technology, and wrote Towards a New
Alchemy: The Millennium Science. His latest book Earth
Rising ? The Revolution: Toward a Thousand Years of Peace
was co-authored with James Roderick in December, 1999. He is
also the editor of Earthpulse Flashpoints, a continuing
new-science book series. Begich has published articles in
science, politics and education and is a well known
lecturer, having presented throughout the United States and
in nineteen countries. He has been featured as a guest on
thousands of radio broadcasts reporting on his research
activities including new technologies, health and earth
science related issues. He has also appeared on dozens of
television documentaries and other programs throughout the
world including BBC-TV, CBC-TV, TeleMundo, and others.

 Begich has served as an expert witness and speaker before
the European Parliament. He has spoken on various issues for
groups representing citizen concerns, statesmen and elected
officials, scientists and others. He is the publisher and
co-owner of Earthpulse Press and is also under contract as
Tribal Administrator for the Chickaloon Village Council, a
federally recognized American Indian Tribe of the Athabascan
Indian Nation.

 Dr. Begich is married to Shelah Begich-Slade and has five
children. He resides just north of Anchorage in the
community of Eagle River, Alaska, USA.


James Roderick is a 30-year resident of Alaska, working

[CTRL] Nazi pinkoes

2000-04-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

Subject:
Nazi pinkoes
   Date:
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:12:19 +0200
   From:
yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Not directly connected to BRIT-AM themes:
The following note is sent in the interests of public knowledge. It
explains the
Nazi influences on the gay rights movement.


From: Eleazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question... What is a cult anyway?

"What exactly is a cult, anyway?"

"A cult is a group of people who organize around a strong
authority figure. Cults, like many other groups, attempt to
expand their influence for the purposes of power or money.
However, to achieve these ends, destructive cults employ a
potent mixture of influence techniques and deception to
attain psychological control over members and new recruits.
This fundamental level of control is known alternatively
as 'brainwashing,' 'thought reform,' or 'mind control.' A
successful induction by a destructive cult displaces a
person's former identity and replaces it with a new one.
That new identity may not be one that the person would
have freely chosen under her own volition (Hassan, 1990)."
[exerpted from http://www.influenceatwork.com/cult.html ]

Comments...

The "gay" rights movement in Germany during the 20s and 30s
functioned as a cult, just as it does in America today. In
Germany, as in American psychiatry provided the "scientific"
legitimization for the normalization of homosexuality, i.e.,
the 1973 decision to remove homosexuality from the American
Psyciatric's Diagnistics  Statistics Manual. The Nazis
actually organized what became the largest "gay" rights
group in Germany, known as the Bund fur Menschensrecht or
Society for Human Rights. Henry Gerber, a German American
serving with the American occupation forces in Germany
after WWI sought out and joined the Nazi "gay" rights
group. After the war and his return to Chicago, in 1925
Gerber registered the first American chapter of The
Society for Human Rights. Like most of the Nazi leadership
during the 20s and early thirties, Gerber was a "gay"
pederast and sought to bring his brand of "freedom" to
America. Largely unknown, is Gerber may have been the
first to register a Nazi organization in America. Like
today, Gerber and his Nazi mentors used "human rights"
as an apparently virtuous cloak for legitimacy and
acceptance in America. As usual, evil mimics virtue and
truth in which freedom mutates into licence and brutality.
Never has, "those who show compassion for the wicked,
will end by persecuting the compassionate," ever been so
true as in the case of "gay" rights." The so-called
"gay" identity, while a false "scientific" and (anti)
social construct, is diabolically destructive.

When Hitler arrived on the scene, the disinherited and
alienated male youth of his times were ripe for a powerful
male role model - a strong authority figure. Extensive
research establishes, the Nazis never could have seized
power in Germany without the German "gay" rights movement.
Similarly, the present "gay" rights movements manouvering
for influence and power in Israel, Canada and the United
States are a Nazi fifth column.

In this regard, "gays" as a militaristic cult, pose the
greatest single threat to western civilization and Israel.
They are the Oedupis warriors and the most ruthless
murderers throughout history.

Further documentation available...
Read The Pink Swastika by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams (1997) 
Germany's National Vice by Samuel Igra (1945)


"The Bible...he who has lost his God can rediscover Him in this work.
He who has never known Him will inhale here the breath of God's word."
-Heinrich Heine.

"It is impossible to mentally or socially enslave a Bible-reading
people.
The principles of the Bible are the ground work of human freedom."
-Horace Greeley.

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[CTRL] Hebrew Runes in Sweden

2000-04-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

Hebrew Runes in Sweden
   Date:
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:26:12 +0200
   From:
yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:
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Orjan questioned:

From: Orjan Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 OK. Have a nice time, When you return if you wish to be subscribed please
 say so,

 God Bless you,

 Yair Davidy.
Shalom,

How are you? Why did you send the above message to me?

I hope you have not removed me from the mailing list,

Answer from Yair Davidy:
It was a mistake. A copy of the message was sent out (by mistake) to
everybody on the list.
You are still on the list.

Orjan also stated:

Lately I have done some statistical examinations of runic inscriptions.
I have compared relative frequency of runes with the relative frequencies
of corresponding Hebrew characters in the Hebrew Bible.

I used a Bible Codes program, and compared relative frequencies
of runes in the runic inscriptions with relative frequencies in ALL books in
the Hebrew Bible.
What I found was that the correlation coefficients were highest
for the book of Job. In other words: In significant statistical
respects the language of the Blekinge
inscriptions resembles the language of the book of Job more than
any other book in the Hebrew bible.

What conclusions can be drawn from that?
From what I know Job lived in the land of UTZ, which was between
the land of Israel and the Euphrates river.
If the language of UTZ is reflected in the book of Job, then
my findings indicate that the origin of the Blekinge people is
to be found close to the land of UTZ.
One of the Isralite tribes who lived closest to the area of UTZ,
was the tribe of GAD, so my recent findings actually may indicate that
your indentification of the Swedes with Gad is correct.


Your friend,
Orjan

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Re: [CTRL] Dreamland: Whitley Strieber int Laurence Gardner

2000-04-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

Glad you had a good laff David! There seems to be a shortage of people
who can see a whole picture.Prob us women should try to figure it out :
)

I am doing a summary of the book Secrets of the Mojave by Branton with
the new chapters that aren't on Steve's site.

http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/files.html
http://www.anomalous-images.com/text/mojave.html

It is here in a zipped file too. There are 7 more chapters in the book.
I'm just waiting to permission to scan some for the net which isn't
online.[Don't want anybody to become upset over copyright like Hurtak
who wouldn't allow me to put the rest of Keys of Enoch. If anyone wants
more info let me know and I'll forward. I have 10 more chapters. Thought
a bit of a cheek on his part, since his is just from the Urantia book
and Alice Bailey.]

Unlike the Secrets of the Mojave which is written by former and present
military intelligence personnel.. The publisher said she would welcome
reviews so here is the address to get a review copy.

J. Yahachaz P. Hawkins (aka Jacqueline Palmer).Publisher.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is a weighty book with 324 A4 pages with small type, plus diagrams so
I guess she'll send a review copy for publication purposes.
I have acquired a pile of emails about military abductions too, so will
post those shortly. Got a little on Pine Gap.

Don't let those goannas get ya David!  Hey you Aussies are trying to
sneak your snakes into our country now, by golly.Customs caught one.

Nicky in snake/reptoid free NZ






David wrote:

ROTFL!!! Well, you may not have heard, but dear old "i am the son of
god" D'Icke, has had a slight tiff with Sir Laurie (ggg) In fact,
D.Icke-world put out an article about Sir Garters being a blood-sucking
shape-shifting reptilian involved in ritual abuse and murder. Sorry Nick
... but heres where i'm gonna have to have
BARF! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I can't say i've heard
of that "Davidy" guy, so can't comment - Branton i've read bits and
pieces - some i thought was accurate - but aliens and giant goanna's -
hmmm ... well, being an Aussie, i'd have to warn these lizoids to be
wary if coming 'down under' - our Aboriginal folk are Bush Hunters, and
they do so enjoy the taste of goanna flesh (ggg)!!! I did enjoy your
"Blue Beam" stuff - i think if it does exist, from what i read in the
press, the Chinese are having a whirl at the "paranormal" and
"sightings" and plethora of UFO "activity". Though in the West, we are
far more open about it - and treated to such-like acceptance of UFO's
and aliens, via celluloid space heroes every 3 to 6 months ala the kind
hearts from follywood (ggg) or weekly serialised SCI FI episodes on the
poop tube.

 - Original Message -
 From: Nicky Molloy
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Dreamland: Whitley Strieber int Laurence
 Gardner
  I agree with you that his stuff is absurd. But thought some
 may think it worth listening to just for curiousity. Maybe he
 is a shapechanging reptoid like David Icke said.  h
 But then I'm not sure about believing that either.  Branton on
 reptoids and Yair Davidy on geneology is the only thing which
 I can digest mentally and seems reasonable. Mind you some
 strange things have happened to me and I don't think even
 David Icke or L Gardner would believe it . I'm trying to
 pretend I'm normal haha  Lucky you can't see.. Nicky   :
 )  -Original Message-
 From: David Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Dreamland: Whitley Strieber int Laurence
 Gardner
  Thankfully, i won't be listening to Sir Laurie of the Gartner
 knickers-in-knot - i've read some his absurd rants and
 genealogies before - his most humorous being is his in-depth
 erudition on the drinking of his holy-grail search for the
 venerable Menstrual Menstruum. Yeeugh

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[CTRL] THE BRITISH HOUSE OF KING DAVID etc Yair Davidy.

2000-04-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

I was waiting to see if the Jewish Brit-Am Lost Tribes group of Yair
Davidi would say the British royals were from King David. Here it is.
The British Israel Soc and all the other 'Britain is Israel' type groups
say this. British Israel say The Dutch are Zebulon, the Anglo Saxons are
from Joseph, the Celts and Cimmerians are Israelite. Now what do they
all do now the 12 tribes are regathered? Await the Messiah. Brits think
Jesus will take Elizabeth's throne.[perish the thought!] and the Jews
are awaiting the Messiah in Jerusalem.They want all the tribes back as
one for future redemption, they say below.

Nicky



Contents 1  2
   Date:
Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:48:29 +0200
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BRIT-AM NOS 1  2: Contents


BRIT-AM: CONTENTS 1:1

Editorial: An Introduction; change of name; CIA; a new series of
historical
articles; other fields of inquiry; present issue;  p.3

LETTERS: Zebulonite from Holland; Jewish Israelites and Welsh Jones?
Spanish Israelites; Who Is An  Israelite? Who We Are; 30 Years Of
Knowledge; America is the Lost Tribe Of Mannesseh; Scottish Clan
Originally
From Mediterranean; Searching For Years; Political Prisoner From Issachar?
Thank You So Much for This Information; More Like A Biblical Jew; p.4

ASSYRIAN ILLUSTRATION OF CAPTIVES FROM JUDAH WHO ACCOMPANIED THE TEN
TRIBES
INTO EXILE,  p.8

JOHN HULLEY: THE TRAIL OF ISRAEL. The Lost Ten Tribes and the
Cimmerians:
An outstanding Israel Identity scholar divulges some of the secrets he
has
accumulated through decades of research. This is a BRIT-AM first!
Ephraim
and Judah; Assyrian name for the Israelites; Cimmerian trail through
Asia
Minor; Early Greek Civilization and Lost Israelite Influence; Loss of
identity in Europe; Ephraim hath mixed himself among the people (Hosea
7:8); From Cimmerian to Zionist, p.9

ASSYRIAN DEPICTIONS OF NORTHERN ISRAELITES PRIOR TO THE EXILE OF THE TEN
TRIBES.

THE IMPORTANCE OF HISTORY by Yair Davidy. The simple meaning of certain
Biblical verses bears a surprising message! The Bible says that one of
the
ways we can draw close to God and understand His ways is through the
study
of the history of Israel throughout the ages. p.19

Bible Study: 1270 CE. THE RETURN OF THE LOST TRIBES. What Does the Bible
Say? By Nachmanides (Moshe ben Nachman. 1194-1270). Nachmanides may have
written a long time ago but his insights into Scripture are still
pertinent
today. They retain the freshness and excitement of new understandings of
the Eternal Text! Torah and Prophecy; Numerology; The Future Redemption;
Redemption of the Lost Ten Tribes Prophesied; Redemption Assured;
Redemption Still to Come; Jewish Captives Were Taken To Egypt As
Prophesied; Exile by the Eagle-Standard of Rome Foreseen! The Future
Redemption Must Include the Ten Tribes; p.21

Geneaology: THE BRITISH HOUSE OF KING DAVID! by Athol Bloomer
Athol Bloomer has discovered some amazing facts in the field of
Geneaology.
BRIT-AM is the first to publish them. BRIT-AM both records history and
makes it! [You too can participate in this activity]. Descent from King
David is very significant both from the point of view of Scripture and
of
history. Athol explains how the first Norman king of England traces his
ancestry back to the first bard of Israel and the greatest monarch in
history! William the Conqueror in the male line was a direct descendant
of
King David! Charlemagne was a descendant through his mother; The Davidic
Family Intermarries With the Ancestors of Charlemagne; The Four Sons of
Machir; Rollo of Norway Ancestor of William the Conqueror; The First
Russian Kings; The Kings of Norway.p.30

Historical Interest: EUROPEAN BEGINNINGS: THE EARLY HISTORY OF WEST
CONTINENTAL EUROPE, THE LOST TRIBES, AND THE JEWS by Yair Davidy.
A new series explores the early history of western nations and shows who
was Israelite and who was not and how Israelite origins influenced
national
behavior. The Jewish-Lost Israelite symbiosis throughout the centuries
is
explored. The Biblical identity of non-Israelite European peoples is
discussed. Hebrew Names for Germany and France; Ashkenazic and Sephardic
Jewry; The Dark Ages; The Jews in the West and the Rise of Rome; German
Peoples; The Arian Church, Judaism, and the Barbarians; Merovingians;
Italy; The Jews as Fighters; The Byzantines Take Over Italy; The
Lombards;
Early Economic and Social Conditions in the West; The Jews; The Khazars
and
Their Role in Early European History. p.33




BRIT-AM 1:2
CONTENTS

 Editorial: Reactions to First Issue; Unique Qualities of BRIT-AM
Supporters: The Bond Between Us; Spanish or Latin American people of
Jewish
origin; present-day letters comprise valuable historical testimonies p.3

A Biblical Historical Interest: THE RETURN OF JEHONATHAN. HOW THE
BRITISH
USED THE BIBLE TO REPEAT AN ANCIENT ISRAELITE VICTORY p.3
The Taking of Michmash by Major Vivian Gilbert: This article explains
how
the historical veracity of the 

[CTRL] Lab Analysis Of Chemtrails: Virulent Bio-Toxin Soup

2000-04-15 Thread Nicola Molloy

Lab Analysis Of Chemtrails: Virulent Bio-Toxin Soup

Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:04:55 +
From:
 "NewsHawk Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
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 Organization:
 NewsHawk Inc.

2.29.00
Lab Analysis Of Chemtrails: Virulent Bio-Toxin Soup



Those kind, peaceful, humanitarian Nazis in our beloved federal
government have now been proved to be engaged in dosing most of North
America (and who knows where else--probably everywhere) with
substances sprayed from military jets; substances which laboratory
analysis now confirms contain a horrendous, virulent and HIGHLY
infectious/contagious brew of a wide variety of diseases.

The frighteningly long list of such includes some very severe bacterial
agents; toxic bacilli; mold and fungus spores, enzymes used in
recombinant DNA experimentation and Ethylene Dibromide--more commonly
known as jet fuel.

Sound good? Wonder why everyone you ever knew and everyone THEY ever
knew seems to be sick this winter?

Satanic feds, implementing some criminally psychopathic, Fourth Reich
agenda on behalf of their New World Order fuhrers, appear determined
to--shall we say--significantly reduce the functional human population
by such continual widespread aerial dosing of huge population groups.

And guess what? They don't give a rat's butt whether you're white,
brown, black, pink, green, Native American, Christian, Muslim,
Buddhist or Jew. They want us dead. There can really be no other
conceivable explanation for what has become the most open secret of
the year 2000--namely, the continual bombardment of the population
with this incredibly severe soup of diseases and toxins which ARE
being dispersed by military aircraft all across North America.

And as we've noted, the chances this is occurring elsewhere around the
world would seem extraordinarily high as well.

So this is how they're doing it in the Fourth Reich. Hey, they don't
need concentration camps and ovens this time--too inefficient. And
also, it's bad for the public image and public relations. This way,
they can just deny, deny, deny and deny until EVERYBODY'S DEAD!
Except of course, those cyborgs (Al Gore, George Bush), quasi-cyborgs
robotons and genetically-desirable humans whom the world government
deems acceptable slaves and to whom they have provided the necessary
antidotes.


The writer of the forwarded message below cites the applicable federal
"laws" (?!) which permit and "regulate" such widespread "testing" of
biological and chemical warfare agents on the American people. Well,
isn't that just the nicest thing.

We know it's hard to believe, but the Department of Defense IS
AUTHORIZED to conduct biological and chemical warfare experiments us
any time and any place they choose; supposedly in accordance with a
couple of mindbendingly weak conditions.

I mean, can you even BELIEVE this? Must be a bad dream, right? We WISH
it was, but no. It's for REAL.


Welcome to the FOURTH REICH, folks.



NewsHawk® Inc.
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Subject: Chemtrail Info
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:35:37 -0800
From: Penny Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED]


If you first take a tour to
www.wildlandsproject.org/index.shtml
click on the site map, then go to page 3 you will find where it states
that
they have to reduce the size of the human population by humane means.
This
got me to wondering if they thought that chemical spraying was in their
opinion a humane means to reduce the population.

I don't know if you have heard of William Thomas, but he has a lot of
info on the chemtrails.  His website is
www.islandnet.com/~wilco/
If you click on issue # 6 you can get a lot of information.

He has posted on his site BIOWARFARE TEST ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. This
states that the recently revised U.S. Code Title 50, Section 1520 states
that the Secretary of Defense may conduct tests or experiments
"involving the use of a chemical agent or biological agent on a civilian
population" if they are related to research activity. The law also
stipulates that biowarfare test can be carried out on Americans only if
congress is notified 30 days in advance, and "only if informed consent
to the testing was obtained from each human subject in advance of the
testing on that subject.

There is plenty of pattern and precedent to suggest that clandestine
biowarfare experiments are routinely pacticed on the American public
without their informed consent. Two Congressional investigations in
1977 and 1994 - and recently declassified British defense documents -
detail 50 years of "open air" testing that used ships and spray-
equipped aircraft to spread biological warfare simulaants on hundreds
of cities across the U.S., Canada and the U.K. There is more to this
article. I just wanted to give you some of the info because I could
spend the rest of the day typing this stuff up.


So far some of the chemicals that were collected from the chemtrail
spray and lab tested is:
1.   Bacilli  Molds
2.   Pseudomonas Aeruginosa
3.   Pseudomonas 

[CTRL] Vaccine Horrors--JUST SAY NO!

2000-04-15 Thread Nicola Molloy

From Newshawk.

3.6.00
Vaccine Horrors


A small collection of various contributions; indicating something that I
personally have known for a good eight or nine years or so: most, if not
ALL, vaccines are a literal abomination; EXTREMELY toxic to our bodies;
almost CERTAIN to promotes or engender severe and sometimes terminal
reactions from the victims they were administered to; and are many TIMES
more damaging to infants and toddlers--to whom these terrible health
threats are MOST OFTEN administered.

On top of which: the political/social "climate" in the disunited,
up-tied FEDERALIZED States of America today is such that in many areas
parents are actually coerced/threatened and forced by the New World
Order Gestapo to vaccinate their children or have it forcibly done to
their children. Then of course, resisting or uncooperative parents can
look forward to the feds (often hiding behind county  state social
services sub-Gestapo units) taking legal steps in the crap-hole
courtrooms of the uncountable number of corrupt, paid-off and lunatic
judges in this country to TAKE THEIR CHILDREN AWAY FROM THEM, and put
the kids under the direct control of the Brave New World Order STATE.

Did I digress a bit? Well--just trying to color in the BIGGER picture.

SO; read it all, get understandably angry, then put that into ACTION!!
Or NON-action; when it comes specifically to getting yourselves or your
children vaccinated.



NewsHawk® Inc.
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Vaccine linked to autism?
New report points to
dangers of MMR immunization


By Julie Foster
2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A new report by Dr. Harold Buttram, a practicing physician in
Quakertown, Pa., suggests the recent increase in the number of autistic
children could be caused by the combination measles, mumps and rubella,
or MMR, vaccine routinely given to children at age 18 months -- a
phenomenon the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention claim is
highly unlikely.

In a past study of autistic children, researchers found that 84 percent
of the children had antibodies against a certain type of brain tissue,
indicating that the immune system was destroying brain cells. The
researchers also found the brain tissue antibody to be very similar to
the antibody that's formed against the MMR vaccine. Additionally, MMR
antibody was found in 59 percent of the autistic children compared to 10
percent in normal children.

Buttram also noted some experts believe certain childhood illnesses
including measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox are a necessary and
helpful step in strengthening the immune system. Because the vaccines
are given by injection, the immune response of the mucous membranes,
through which these diseases enter the body, is not challenged and
strengthened. Those who support the theory also attribute the use of
vaccines to the great increase in cases of asthma and eczema, both of
which are diseases of the mucous membranes.

Buttram was quick to point out that measles and other diseases may
result in complications that cause brain injury. Therefore, physicians
and government officials may be choosing between the lesser of two
evils.

"It is true that there may be situations where extreme measures may be
justified, as the lesser of two evils, to preserve life and health,"
Buttram wrote. "The basic question, therefore, is whether the benefits
of current childhood vaccines outweigh the harm, or whether the reverse
is true."

The incidence of autism in California increased 273 percent from 1987 to
1998, and a growing number of medical professionals are questioning the
FDA's vaccine safety tests.

"A small but growing minority of physicians and scientists are becoming
aware that safety testing for the various vaccines has been woefully
inadequate," Buttram wrote.

He cited a 1994 National Academy of Sciences review of the safety of the
hepatitis B vaccine. The review was done to investigate five possible
adverse effects of the vaccine. However, conclusions could not be made
about four of the effects due to a lack of enough research.

Dr. Bernard Rimland, founder and director of the Autism Research
Institute in San Diego, Calif., told DiscoveryHealth.com, "There are no
data on the triple vaccines."

When the institute opened in 1967, Rimland noticed that a number of
parents had mentioned that the diptheria, pertussin and tetanus, or DPT,
vaccine seemed to have an adverse effect on their children.

"In the late '70s and early '80s, we began hearing the same thing about
MMR," he said.

Rimland pointed out that triple vaccines can put additional stress on
the body. A person's immune system usually deals with one virus at a
time. Combining the individual measles, mumps and rubella vaccines into
one package results in a much more dangerous vaccine, he said.

Rimland also noted that doctors can report adverse effects of vaccines
through the Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System, which is mandated
by the Food and Drug Administration. However, the VAERS is a 

[CTRL] Mark Of The Beast - This is Scary Stuff People

2000-04-18 Thread Nicola Molloy

[astro-revelation] This is Scary Stuff People - Mark Of The Beast
Date:
 Tue, 18 Apr 2000 04:30:16 -0700
   From:
 Victoria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization:
 Global Glory

Someone asked privately about NID

I have written articles on National ID.
http://presys.com/~ekklesia/issue9w.htm
The ekklesia Newsletter issue 9
The Seal Deal - Neither buy nor sell
NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION
The 666 section
Redemption

They have been turning drivers license into N ID behind the
scene with free computers and software to the states.


This is a long post but it shows you how this stuff comes
about. All they need is a good national emergency and people
will line up for new IDs and the system is already present
to do it through DMVs.

SCAN THIS NEWS
July 4, 1999

THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL ID PLAN

This article memorializes, for posterity sake, the
establishment of the national identification system in
America.

A lot of people, just now being confronted with the national
ID laws, are quick to blame President Clinton. He certainly
is an easy target. But the reality is that the Republicans
are solely responsible for these programs, as you will see
below.

How The Republicans Implemented the Democrats' National ID
Plan
An Historical Account

By Scott McDonald

http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1/fp-republican-id-plan.html

One day, in the not too distant future, a generation of
Americans is going to wake up and ask: "How did we become
shackled with a government that tracks, monitors, regulates,
controls, and dictates our every move?" Let the historical
record show, it was the Republican-led Congress implementing
the Democrat's "locating and tracking" database program that
resulted in the U.S. national identification system.

Just how did this massive control mechanism get established?
And, who were the key players? For a clue, their first names
were: Bob, Newt, Bill, and Patsy -- with honorable mention
for Rush.

It all came about rather gradually beginning in 1994 -- the
political period referred to as the "Republican Revolution."
It happened during a time when the nation's attention was
diverted to such trivial issues as funding for free school
lunch programs. It began when the Republicans in Congress
proudly and pompously announced, in a huge ceremony held on
the front steps of the U.S. Capitol Building, that they were
implementing their "Contract With America."

Under the "Contract," the Republican Congress enacted not
one, but TWO
national ID laws. The "Welfare Reform Act of 1996" and the
"Illegal Immigration Reform Act of 1996" both included
requirements which, in application, constitute a national
identification system. Together, these two laws made up the
foundational backbone -- and provided the financial impetus
-- for the most massive national identification system ever
devised by mankind. These two programs are now being
implemented  throughout America. As a result, everyone is
required to identify themselves using a social security
number in order to engage in virtually all societal
activities. Consequently, SSNs are now required as a
condition to drive, work, fly, bank, get married, get
divorced, hunt, fish, buy stock, obtain insurance, get born,
and even to die.

These two laws are in addition to the health care reform
measures, also enacted under the Republican Congress, which
are resulting in massive database systems that will be used
to exchange private information about citizens, all linked
to one's social security number.

How could such Draconian laws get enacted with little or no
meaningful public debate? No small amount of blame must go
to the diversionary antics of the immensely popular,
pseudo-conservative, part-time comedian, Republican
mouthpiece, radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh. For, it was
he who, on cue from Newt Gingrich, effectively distracted an
otherwise concerned and otherwise trusting populace with
relentless babble and mindless chatter. All that was ever
discussed on his weekday program was whether or not the
Republican's Welfare Reform plan included a "spending
increase," a "spending decrease," or simply a "decrease in
the proposed increase." Occasionally, Rush would also
complain about Clinton's threat to veto the great Republican
overhaul bill because it did not include enough money for
free school lunch programs. Clinton followed through with
his threat, by the way, but that obviously is not the end of
the story. Meanwhile, Congress was busy enacting the most
sophisticated -- most horrendous -- locating, tracking, and
identification system ever suffered under by mankind. None
of this was ever once so much as mentioned by the celebrity
who's most bragged-about credential is that half 'his brain
encumbered.

DETAILED HISTORY OF THE LOCATING AND TRACKING LAWS

The national "locating and tracking" system, (by the way,
that's how it's referred to in the Act), began as the "Child
Support 

[CTRL] Dulce video info needed

2000-04-20 Thread Nicola Molloy

Hi all,

Does anybody know anything about a Dulce video that is available please?
Chris is a documentary maker in UK and any info would be really
appreciated, thanks. His email address is below.  Not heard much lately
about the incubators at Dulce but have read Branton, Commander X and
Katarina Wilsons stuff. They are supposed to be cloning people there or
doing hybrids. If anyone knows of any more info online too that would be
great.

Thanks
Nicky




I would like to research a little more about the Dulce video tape which
shows 'incubators' in a strange facility with no windows... do you have
a
full version of the footage - do you know someone who can give me some
concise up to date info about the origins of this tape?

Chris
www.enigmatv.com


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Thu, Apr 20, 2000, 4:49 AM

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[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Confirmation: $30 million of White United Nations VehiclesStockpiling in Texas]

1999-08-04 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 (sent to USCMike1's 31,519+ readers -Please repost to your own mailing lists
 - Thanks)

 Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:

 Please read the following post that for the fiftieth time confirms that
 Clinton has been bringing in foreign troops to be commanded under United
 Nations control to begin the takeover of our once free and sovereign United
 States of America.

 Literally, there are 1000s of foreign and U.N. vehicles to be used for
 the express purpose of warfare against WE the People.  Why else would they be
 here?  As you read the following post keep in mind that these brand new
 vehicles are being shipped in to all over the USA.

 In fact, last week, I was driving south on Interstate 405 (a parallel
 alternate to I-5) from the San Fernando Valley (suburb of Los Angeles with 3
 million population) toward LAX (Los Angeles International Airport) or beyond
 to like San Diego, I saw a brand spanking new 50 to 60 foot tractor-trailor
 rig painted sparkling white with absolutely NO indentification of ANY type,
 not even the little numbers you normally see painted in the corners.  No
 words, names, or identifying companies or agencies.

It was fully loaded as you can tell by the way the trailer does not bounce
 or jiggle or move vertically as the shock absorbers and springs bounce and
 chatter underneath and by the shape of the tires burgeoning upon the surface
 of the road.

 Finally I saw a white federal government license plate with the words:
 "U.S. Airforce" embossed on it.  Who knows what its payload and cargo was???
 Perhaps barrels of chemical or biological agents to re-fill the Air Force
 jets spraying con-chem-bio trails over the population?  Or maybe more
 magnetic flux and Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) detection instrumentation?
  Maybe deadly microwave weapons to blowout citizens' hearts and brains for
 more stangely suspect "natural" deaths and Arkan-cides?

 The post talks about educated guesses and/or rumors (where there is smoke
 there is usually fire) about prisoner shackles being welded onto the inside
 walls of many of the white truck trailers - now who do you suppose those
 could be intented for??  in the United States of America??

   Please read the post and decide for yourselves.

 Only five months remaining until Y2K..  Happy August 1, 1999.

 USCMike1

 http://www.alltexas.net/news/bastrop.html

 BASTROP FEDERAL PEN HOUSES
 WHITE VEHICLES
 .BUT FOR WHAT?

 Photo's taken from the air. Ground Photos...  coming Monday

 Bastrop.. AllTexas News  Nestled behind a hillside, just out of sight from
 busy Highway 95 in Bastrop County, Texas, lies a growing fleet of nearly a
 thousand
 showroom-new SUVs, 4WD pickups, suburbans and vans.  These vehicles are
 not overflow storage for an overstocked dealer.  This fleet is owned by the
 federal government.

 All the vehicles are U.N. White.

 Rumors have been floating in the area for months about a fleet of suspicious
 vehicles being outfitted with prisoner cages, shackles and insignia such as
 “U.S. Police Force” and the U.N. roundel.  None of the vehicles observed in
 the storage area appeared to have any markings at all other than window
 stickers with equipment data.

 However, prison officials did confirm that the SUVs and vans were in fact
 being outfitted with prisoner cages and shackles.  When pressed for
 information on the intended users of these vehicles, a prison spokesman said
 they were intended for the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

 However, vehicles assigned to the INS are predominantly painted green and
 those assigned to the Border Patrol are usually the same.  The suitability of
 a high-visibility color such as white for either agency is in question.
 Large, white vehicles can be seen approaching from miles away.

 This $30 million fleet of unused government vehicles has been steadily
 growing, but has not been deployed.  It seems the vehicles keep coming in,
 but none go out to user agencies.  This field-full of top-of-the-line utility
 vehicles, bought with taxpayer dollars, is sitting idle, soaking up Texas
 sun.

 The site is located a few miles North of the city of Bastrop on U.S. Prison
 property.  The high-security prison itself takes up the Southern part of the
 property.  The area where the vehicles reside is fenced-off from the public
 road with no more precaution than a farmer might use to keep his cattle from
 straying.  The unguarded entrance warns that the area is U.S. Prison property
 and trespassing is prohibited.  Another
 sign strangley warns of “Poison Gas.”

 http://www.alltexas.net/news/bastrop.html

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 Shillington, Pa.
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[CTRL] Kosovar gangs pick up where the Serbs left off.

1999-08-04 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Chaos in Kosovo
  Kosovar gangs pick up where the Serbs
left off.

  - - - - - - - - - - - -
  By Laura Rozen

  August 3, 1999 | PRISTINA, Yugoslavia
-- With 37,000 NATO-led peacekeeping
  troops patrolling it, Kosovo may not
be the first place one thinks of as a
  smugglers' paradise.

  But it is.

  Two different worlds converge here in
Kosovo, utterly unrelated to each
  other. Heroin and cocaine come cheap
at parties. Mercedes and BMWs,
  sparkling new and without license
plates, cruise through the capital at
  dusk, packed with young men talking on
cell phones. When they stop in
  front of key office buildings, a
couple of men get out, crossing their arms
  as if armed and not to be messed with,
while another goes inside to
  conduct business. The rumbling
oversized tank of a British KFOR patrol
  turns the corner at an intersection
less than 10 feet away.

  Kosovo sits between two European
countries overrun with organized
  crime. Albania, the poorest country in
Europe, sits along a well-trod drug
  and arms trading route between Asia
and Europe. The northern part of
  Albania, which borders Kosovo, is
almost entirely in the hands of armed
  gangs.

  To Kosovo's northeast, Serbia, after a
decade of international economic
  sanctions and isolation, is also rife
with corruption, arms smuggling and
  state-sanctioned theft of public funds
to private bank accounts (some 300
  cronies of Yugoslav president Slobodan
Milosevic have recently had their
  Swiss bank accounts frozen and been
banned from travel to the European
  Union and the United States).

  Organized crime loves a vacuum.
Interpol now estimates that 40 percent of
  the heroin supply in Western Europe
travels through Kosovo.

  In addition, Kosovo has a past which
makes it an ideal breeding ground
  for organized crime. For the past 10
years, since Milosevic revoked the
  province's autonomy, most Kosovo
Albanians have been pushed out of
  the state sector, and forced to look
for work in private ventures and
  abroad. Many Kosovo Albanian men went
abroad to work in Germany,
  Switzerland, Scandinavia and the
United States -- some in construction
  and other above-board professions,
others in the underworld of drug
  trafficking -- to earn money to send
back to their extended families. An
  extensive network of travel agencies
helped traffic money from Europe
  and the United States back to
relatives in Kosovo.

  But certain conditions of the post-war
period make Kosovo even more
  ideal as a base for organized crime.
There is an almost complete lack of
  civil authority here, despite the
presence of KFOR soldiers. Have your
  apartment broken into, car stolen,
neighbor murdered, and there is no one
  to call. KFOR soldiers dutifully come
to make a report if someone's been
  killed. But you can call the police
emergency number in Kosovo all you
  want, and no one comes, because for
the moment there are no functioning
  police. To date, some 600 U.N.
international police have arrived, but the
  international police commissioner does
not plan to deploy any of them
  until he has most of his 3,000 men.

  In the meantime, there are virtually
open borders. The fact that Serbian
  police destroyed many Kosovo
Albanians' identity papers and license
  plates as they were deporting them
means that KFOR allows almost
   

[CTRL] Subliminal mind-altering technology - Gulf war

1999-08-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

This article has info about the mind control techniques used in the Gulf
War in Operation Desert Storm.
Nicky

Wes Thomas wrote:

 Eleanor White [EMAIL PROTECTED] has alerted me to
 a fascinating article on "silent sound" posted
 on her site that may be related to the Filer theory:

 http://home.nas.net/~raven1/silsoun2.htm

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Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

1999-08-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Well said Andrew!!

It could be a biological problem too. I think the femininization of men
today is to do with what hormones have been put into their bodies
artificially. I mean woman used to take the pill in the 60's with 300
times the bodies estrogen and then go and have a baby. Then we have
plastic containers and weed killers which have an estrogen effect on the
body, not to mention all the hormones in the milk and meat. Plus all the
soy products added into the food with estrogen. The Thames river in
London is full of it. This is because women take the pill and then they
flush it down the toilet and then it goes in the drinking water again
which comes from the Thames.  It is indestructible. Men drink it.

I can't for the life of me think how women could have gotten so
masculine :) maybe it is the constant barrage of movies producing too
much adrenalin. I won't go to a movie unless it has a thrill a minute.
I've become an adrenaline junkie. Armageddon, Star Wars, Soldier. Who
wants to actually do housework and be docile after watching something
that has made you believe life must have more excitement from then on.
Quick send me some London water to balance the scales!

Nicky




Andrew Hennessey wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Andrew's response also belies the common misperception that rape has to
 do with sex, when in reality it deals with power and coercion...

 June ;-)

 Actually, I'm just a naive marginalised victim of a post masculine society
 dominated by New Age women who beat on sensitive men because they have not
 the courage to tackle the real brutes that made them that way.



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[CTRL] [Fwd: IUFO: British 'supergerm' is created for defense / Racist BiologicalWarfare Five Years Away / Betting that no AID's, etc. type mutationsoccur to damage ]

1999-08-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 From The Washington Times,
 http://www.washtimes.com/internatl/internatl1.html
 -
 August 2,
 British 'supergerm' is created for defense

 By Joe Murphy
 LONDON SUNDAY TELEGRAPH

 LONDON

 Britain's Ministry of Defense has disclosed that it is creating lethal
 genetically modified (GM) organisms in a secret program to prepare defenses
 against a new era of germ warfare.

  Tests of the potential of "GM supergerms" are being conducted at
 Porton Down, the headquarters of the government's chemical and
 biological defense establishment.

  The research uses similar genetic engineering techniques to those
 that create GM foods sold in supermarkets. It was launched to study
 the implications should such technology be developed for weapons of
 mass destruction by an enemy power.

  The government has kept the experimental research secret, but the
 London Sunday Telegraph has learned it has been going on for at least
 five years.

  The theoretical threat posed by GM germs has alarmed the Ministry
 of Defense. Genetic techniques can make biological weapons more
 dangerous to humans and less easy to detect or counter.

  It is already feasible to use genetic engineering to introduce a
 lethal toxin into a pathogen -- an organism that attacks humans -- to
 increase its killing potential. Organisms can also be modified to
 resist antidotes.

  In the future, it may be possible to wipe out an army with mutant
 germs that would then be made benign by a genetic flaw, enabling an
 enemy force to invade in safety.

  An enemy may be more ready to deploy such "controllable" GM
 weapons than existing organisms such as anthrax. Ultimately, it may be
 possible to develop an "ethnic destruction" germ, that is, an organism
 that would attack the genes of a particular race.

  In January, a study by the British Medical Association warned
 that a plague or toxin designed to kill specific racial groups could
 be only five to 10 years away.

  Britain has signed treaties prohibiting the creation of
 biological weapons for military purposes. The sole reason for the
 research at Porton Down is to develop protection measures against any
 threat posed to the population or to servicemen.

  A Ministry of Defense spokesman said: "To perform this task our
 scientists have to be at the cutting edge of biological scientific
 knowledge, including the techniques of genetics."

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[CTRL] Eclipse August 11th May Fill The Sky.

1999-08-05 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Audio Eclipse August 11th May Fill The Sky...08/05/99

(NASA) During a total solar eclipse, day becomes night for a few
precious minutes. The temperature drops,
birds stop
singing, and bees return to their hives for a premature rest. An eerie
quiet envelopes the landscape inside
the path of totality.

However, from the unique perspective of a ham radio operator, night is
anything but quiet - and neither is a
solar eclipse.
Many shortwave radio stations that are undetectable in daytime are easy
to pick up at night. The reason has
to do with the
Sun's effect on Earth's atmosphere. During the day, solar UV radiation
ionizes atoms and molecules in the
upper atmosphere,
creating a zone called the "ionosphere." The uppermost part of the
ionosphere, called the F layer, is so
thoroughly ionized that
some free electrons exist there - even at night - when the UV source
(the Sun) is not present. The F layer is
like a mirror for radio waves with frequencies below about 20 MHz.
Shortwave transmissions from earth hit
the F layer and bounce back down. In fact, many such bounces can occur,
and this is the reason why
over-the-horizon transmissions are possible at short wave frequencies.

As the Moon's shadow moves across the earth the temperature in the upper
atmosphere will drop, changing
the wind pattern
as air contracts in on the eclipse region. In the absence of UV
radiation from the Sun, the ionosphere rapidly
begins to decay.
The shadow of the moon races through the atmosphere at supersonic
speeds, causing wind and waves of
electron-ion
recombination to spread through the atmosphere from the eclipse region.
The effects could be global.

Folks, I think there will be a whole lot more to come. This article is
just touching the surface.  MB

Mitch Battros
Producer - Earth Changes TV
http://www.earthchangesTV.com

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[CTRL] Illuminati Formula used for Total Mind Control!!!!!!]

1999-08-06 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 http://mercury.spaceports.com/~persewen/table_of_contents.htm

 ---

The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an
Undetectable Total Mind Controlled
Slave.

by Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier

 [construction_2.gif (6262 bytes)] Under
  Construction

TABLE OF CONTENTS

Introduction

.

THE 12 MAJOR SCIENCES OF MONARCH
MIND-CONTROL

I. THE SELECTION  PREPARATION OF THE
VICTIM

A. Genetics  dissociative abilities

B. Availability

C. Physical  Mental requirements

D. List of organizations carrying out
programming

B. 4 foundational steps for programming

F. STEP 1. Spiritual requirements, Moon
Child ceremonies, traumatization in
vitro

G. STEP 2. Trauma by premature birth

H. STEP 3. Love bombing/love bonding

I. STEP 4. Severing the "core" of the
mind

J. Further considerations

II. THE TRAUMATIZATION  TORTURE OF THE
VICTIM

...

A. A site for torture of children, NOTS
China Lake

B. What trauma does, the creation of
PTSD  DID (MPD)

C. How the torture is carried out, types
of trauma

D. How MPD works

E. The Core

F. The Anchoring Experience

III. THE USE OF DRUGS
A. A list of drugs used
B. A brief history of use
C. Applications for drugs to control a
slave

IV. THE USE OF HYPNOSIS

...

A. Dissociation, trance,  its
historical use

B. How to program with hypnosis

C. How to boost creativity of victim
with hypnosis

D. Keeping the mind dissociative

E. Keeping the mind in a programming
state

F. Hypnotic triggers  cues

G. Hypnosis in programs  other uses

V. THE SKILL OF LYING, THE ART OF DECEIT



A. Overview

B. The use of fiction

C. The use of lies externally, incl.
covers and fronts

D. The use of internal deceptions, incl.
the art of hiding things in a system

VI. THE USE OF ELECTRICITY  ELECTRONICS

.



A. For torture

B. For memory deletion

C. For implanting thoughts

D. Electronic communication  control



VII. ENGINEERING  STRUCTURING OF AN MPD
SYSTEM

A. Structuring of MPD worlds

B. The creation of roles

C. Building in layered defenses D.
Building backup systems

VIII. BODY MANIPULATION  PROGRAMMING



A. Scarring the brain stem

B. Split brain work

C. Medical technologies

D. Histamines

E. The use of body programs

IX. MIND MANIPULATION BY PSYCHOLOGICAL
PROGRAMMING METHODS:

BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, PSYCHOLOGICAL
MOTIVATION  NLP
..

A. Observing a satanic family
conditioning their children
B. Behavior modification, obedience
training
C. Isolation
D. Repetition
E. Psychological motivators, md.
pride/needs/wants
F. Neuro-linguistic programming
G. The inversion of pain  pleasure


[CTRL] Sobering information on UN takeover

1999-08-06 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Straykat wrote:

 Mary Drake wrote:

  Subject: Fwd: Sobering information
  Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:46:45 -0700 (PDT)
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (HELEN FRENCH)
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Subject: Sobering information
  Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:33:45 -0500
  From: "J. W. Welch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: n/a
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Below is an article by noted columnist, Doug Fiedor. It contains
  information you should be made aware of. Read it, analyze it, and react
  accordingly in a manner you feel is most judicious.
 
  The few minutes is well worth your time.
 
  Jim Welch
  
 
  The Flag of Concern is Raised
  by DOUG FIEDOR
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Heads Up
 
  There are two field grade and two company  grade officers from another
  country who read this newsletter  regularly. That is because we are
  friends.  We met by  accident a few years ago while they were acting as
  tourists for a few days before an important work related business
  meeting.  And, because I wanted to brush up on their  language, and they
  English, we have spent a few hours  together over the past few years.
 
  On their last trip, there was some conversation  on the topics reported
  here that interested them.  The UN  and martial law were on the front
  burner.
 
  Two of the men had worked with/for the UN for  a while and freely
  related that the UN greatly fears an  armed American populace.  As part
  of one contingency plan,  they know it would be nearly impossible for
  foreign UN  forces to function in this country while so many of us are
  armed. The UN's desire, therefore, is that we be disarmed.
 
  No great surprise there.
 
  What they related on martial law was a real surprise, though.  According
  to the most senior of the  four, there are not enough U.S. troops to
  enforce martial law in this country unless the people passively allow
  it.
 
  Maybe so. The Army has 468,000, the Marines  but 170,000 and there are
  75,000+ armed federal regulators  and 600,000 local police officers in
  the country.  That's  about one armed person for every 190 citizens.
 
  The gentleman was correct. After checking with  an American Army officer
  of the same relative rank, we find  that's not even enough to hold
  California if the people do not cooperate. In fact, because of the
  mountains, that is not enough to take over Eastern Kentucky, either.
 
  That is, short of air raids and the use of big  guns, it is not.
 
  When asked where they will be at the stroke of  midnight for the new
  year, the reply was a unanimous and  unequivocal, "Home!"  Because, as
  freely related to me,  they expect many more problems there than we are
  expected to have here.
 
  And, so it appears, do many leaders in  military units from countries
  around the world.
 
  When I mentioned that many Americans fear their  guns will be
  confiscated, I was laughed at.  The reply was  something like:  "One at
  a time.  Yes.  All together, at  once, never."  Which makes complete
  sense, if one thinks  about it. The government is already actively
  working on that "one at a time" part.
 
  So, I asked straight out:  "Do you think we are to have martial law?"
 
  After a bit of discussion, the answer was  "probably yes," in some form.
 
  Their reasoning, however, did not deviate at  all from many things we,
  and others, have been reporting.  That is, committees from both the
  House and Senate have already called for martial law and questioned the
  Pentagon on it's readiness. All military leaves are canceled. So too are
  the vacations of any and all armed federal officers. The National Guard
  and Reserves will be on alert. And, all police departments will be at
  full manpower.
 
  Clearly, then, someone expects to have massive force available for
  something. Else, they would not be putting all those guns at the ready.
  But, why?
 
  Certainly, some of us could have a Y2K problem  of some sort. But, 99%
  of us will stay home to take care  of family. That being true, there
  will not be much policing to be done.
 
  Then other news came in.  That armed encampment known as FBI
  headquarters closed its doors to visitors. A few days later, so did the
  Pentagon.
 
  It seems strange, at least on this end, that the people with all the
  guns, those best able to defend themselves in case of trouble, are
  hunkered down against the American public. Is there something going on
  here that we should know about, or is this just the first step in
  whipping their people into an "us" against "them" mentality?
 
  We think that the American people have a right to know exactly what is
  happening. Is the supposed threat of domestic or foreign origin?  What
  is the threat to our 

[CTRL] The Philadelphia Experiment and Time - part 2 of 2]

1999-12-08 Thread Nicola Molloy




From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Philadelphia Experiment

Philadelphia Experiment



The Philadelphia Experiment and Time - part 2 of 2
With Drue (Interview by Joshua, 12/6/95 )

Joshua: You mentioned that you are a time traveler --- can you explain
what you mean by this? Can you share your perception
about what 'time' is and how this was connected with the Philadelphia
Experiment?

Drue: Yes, I do make the claim of being a time traveler or a timeliner.
Having the ability to move through time, either forward or
backward. These abilities came with my understanding of 'time' and
'timelines' through my involvement with the Philadelphia
Experiment and other time related experiences. The highly secretive
government experiments dealt with movement through time
as it is truly understood only by a few. The correct meaning of 'time'
is not as the dictionary defines it, nor, how we were taught.
'Time' is parallel and is nothing but an event. All events are happening
simultaneously --- NOW!

Joshua: What is you interest in UFOs? Some have suggested that UFOs have
a connection with this experiment in some way, is
this true?

Drue: Yes. UFOs do have a connection to the experiment, because when you
deal with UFO's, you also are dealing with 'time'
as it truly is. It is my opinion that approximately 85% of the UFO
sightings are sightings of government technology; one of the
reasons why the government will not acknowledge UFO's. This type of
technology is nothing but unidentified technology.
Today, instead of using warships, they applied this technology to
helicopters known as black helicopters. Because of the
difficulty in applying the use of this technology to large metal objects
such as a naval warship, they took it into this direction.
Most sightings will take on this shape in the future, if they have not
already.

Joshua: Do you have some comments or clarification on the story that Al
Bielek discusses about his relationship to the
Philadelphia Experiment?

Drue: He has done a commendable job in bringing to the public awareness
of his involvement with the project(s). He is an early
pioneer and took the point by breaking the silence, and has done well in
documenting his understanding. In my opinion, there
are pieces of our involvement yet to be revealed, but we are both
actively pursuing the information from our own observation
standpoints. I feel comfortable in saying that though we do not work
together, Al and I provide many with "Food for Thought".
I would also like to point out that there were 181 men that were on
board the Eldridge, but also that there were six other ships
with men on board that had been involved with subsequent experiments. We
are not the only two men that have recall of our
involvement with the Philadelphia Experiment, but many do. Many who
will:

(1) not be willing to actively pursue their involvement for reasons only
known to them; or,

(2) have recollection and be willing to discuss their experiences
without their identity exposed; and lastly,

(3)like Al and myself, be very public of their involvement. This is NOT
the end of the information of this secret government
experiment, and "those in the know" are cognizant of this.

Joshua: Is there a connection with the Philadelphia Experiment and the
experiments with time travel in Montauk? What
involvement do you have if any in Montauk?

Drue: Yes, Montauk was a continuation of time related experiments that
ran parallel with the Philadelphia Experiment. As of
this date, I have no recall of any involvement in Montauk. However, I do
know that on August 18th, 1943, the USS Eldridge
was sent to Montauk Point, Long Island, New York to the year of 1983, at
which time it was dismantled. Those at Montauk
were conducting more experiments in 1993, however, today there is no
activity. Experiments by those who worked at
Montauk, are presently involved in time related experiments in Canada.

Joshua: From all of your experiences, what is your perceptions about
reality, what is happening to our world at the current
moment and where we may be heading in the future?

Drue: This is a most complex question that would take a great deal of
time and space to discuss. In short, however, know this,
with the true understanding of "time" and "timelines", realities are
altered for the betterment of all, a richness beyond words. As
for our future... you and I will decide our future either together or
individually. This, needing more time and space to elaborate.

Joshua: If the Philadelphia Project is considered by the government to
be a secret project, why do you feel inspired to speak
out at this time? Do you have any concern that the government will try
to silence you? Or, do they want this information to
come out?

Drue: My being public is a calculated move for my own safety. "Those in
the know" knew that they could not permanently keep
me from the recall of many of the even

[CTRL] The Philadelphia Experiment and time - part 1

1999-12-08 Thread Nicola Molloy




From: Nicola Molloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Philadelphia Experiment

Philadelphia Experiment



The Philadelphia Experiment and Time - part 1 of 2
With Drue (Interview by Joshua, 12/6/95 )

While attending and participating at the Whole Life Expo held in that
incredible city of New York, in October of last year
(1995), I had a chance to meet with Drue briefly. Drue was a member of
the UFO panel, but I just heard the end of his talk
and his room was jammed packed for his free lecture, so I could only
speak to him when he came out of the room and had
finished his talk. I have always been fascinated by this subject so I
had to meet him. He gave me his card and told me to write
to him and I proposed to share some of his information and insights on
our web site. So we had a few phone conversations and
included in this page is Drue answers to questions related to the
Philadelphia Experiment and time travel.

I was hoping to share with our readers an expanded interview, as I felt
that Drue needed to clarify somewhat a few of his points
and hopefully, very shortly we will be able to provide this update this
interview with his clarifications. I still am not sure how he
was present as a scientist during the Philadlphia Experiment and also
now claims that he has the DNA memories of this
scientist. However, there are a number of new twists he discusses to
this mysterious experiment that I felt it was important to
release the interview in its current form. Again, as many of the pages
we have in this section of our web site, it is impossible to
make a statement on the validity of Drue's story but I have found him to
be a very honest and sincere person to talk with and
very easy going.

Drue is open to speak with others who have interest in these topics (see
his address and phone included in the interview), he
also has some materials available for sale and is in the process of
writing his own book as well as continuing to do public
presentations. He has copyrighted the materials here and asks that if
you want to reproduce the material, you do so in its
entirety (all materials that appear after this brief introduction).

So lets here what Drue has to say about the Philadelphia Experiment

ILLINOIS

Statement: The following interview may be challenging or nurturing to
your current beliefs. It has never been my intentions to
challenge you or your beliefs, but to give you "Food for Thought". I
have a saying, which goes like this: If you WILL to
see---you will see; if, you WILL not to see---you will not! For those of
you who are well informed, you will most likely find
little difficulty in some of the information provided within. For those
who are not well informed, prepare to open your eyes and
your mind (if you WILL) to a new understanding and a new knowledge.

Joshua: Drue, Can you please share something about yourself, your
background and what you are doing today?

Drue: Yes. I was born and raised in the state of Montana. In 1971 I
joined the U.S. Marine Corps for 22 years of service,
retiring in 1993. Detailed as a systems analyst for major Marine Corps
systems for the majority of my career, I was attached to
the rosters of the Marine Corps' Headquarters in Washington, D.C., but
was geographically located either in Southern
California or Okinawa, Japan. After I retired, I got involved with UFO
investigations and paranormal research and exploration.
I am actively lecturing on Time Travel and the Philadelphia Experiment
and writing of my experiences.

Joshua: How did you become involved with the Philadelphia Experiment?

Drue: I joined on with the project as a civilian scientist in the year
of approximately 1938. My experience and training in
physics, geometry and electronics was a necessary requirement for my
assignment. For the sake of those who are reading
about my experiences for the first time, I would like to explain who I
am in relation to time related government experiments,
such as the Philadelphia Experiment and a Time Transfer Experiment. Some
would look at my individual case as one form of a
"Walk-in". There are many forms of Walk-ins, and my existence is solely
based on a government experiment and its uses of
technology from extraterrestrial sources. My memory of my involvement
with the Philadelphia Experiment are NOT memories
of a past life, but DNA memory that was transferred from one body to
another. I, therefore, have DNA memory of both
existences that had been merged.

Joshua: Can you define precisely what the Philadelphia Experiment was
about, and what were its goals?

Drue: The experiment was an attempt to move equipment and personnel
through time and space using a Naval warship known
as the USS Eldridge (DE-173), a destroyer escort. On August 15, 1943, a
total of 181 men (176 sailors and 5 civilian
scientists of which I was one of) were on board the Eldridge and along
with one observation ship set out to sea for an
experiment of which was ne

Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

1999-08-06 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Andrew I think you may have something there about men becoming redundant
to some women.

However if you look at enough of these surveys asking men what they want
they often stress - independance, sense of humour etc. Do you ever see
men saying I'd like to be a protector of women, a knight in armour etc
I've heard of men actually looking for a working woman so that they'll
be sure to pay half the mortgage. I think at the turn of the century men
were dependant on women to feed them and clean up after them but nowdays
they want a buddy, preferring the freedom of not having to conform to a
ritual of being the breadwinner. They expect women to be intelligent and
to get a life. I think they fear being bored with someone, so the woman
is obliged to be interesting every minute as it's so easy to get another
partner.

Personally I think men nowdays want too much compared to what they are
offering women. We now worry whether they will end up being dependant
slobs, so the tables have turned!

Nicky










Andrew Hennessey wrote:

 but wasn't the 'american woman' almost archetypically amazon in the eyes of
 international popular media culture  the 'mother in ;law' - the hen
 pecked husband etc etc - isn't 'girl power' another nail in the coffin of
 the cultural move to make the duality of sex redundant -

 I saw one ad in UK newspaper - of a cool executive girly and the text read -

 'I have the perfect job, the perfect life ... now all I need is the perfect
 sperm.'


 Andrew



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[CTRL] Stonehenge and Boscombe Down

1999-08-08 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: IUFO: FWD: (SW) Stonehenge and Boscombe Down [new subject]
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 14:10:10 -0700
From: "Terry W. Colvin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Organization: ITT/CSA - Camp Doha, Kuwait
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Obligatory UASR:  The connection between Aurora, other black project
aircraft, triangular-shaped UFOs, and other phenomena are intertwined.

Terry

--
Stonehenge and Boscombe Down are firmly connected in my mind because we
drove by the former to get to the latter for a special tour.  As we went
by Stonehenge we got our first look at the Lightning that we got to
watch
in the pattern at Boscombe Down.  We also got to see British Army troops
out on exercises, complete with all sorts of hardware, including a team
in
camouflage with some sort of smallish rocket launcher or similar weapon
tucked into the hedge right beside the pull-out where we stopped to
figure
out exactly where we were.  We all dealt with this rather uncomfortable
situation by mutually ignoring each other except for one fellow who came
over and took our AA map back to the team for a few minutes, returning
it
with the route carefully marked, all with a minimum of conversation. (I
should mention that we also invariably ended up in West Germany, going
from Frankfurt-am-Main to Braunschweig and back, just in time for Autumn
Reforger and the BAOR equivalent, both of which brought the autobahns to
a
slow crawl all along the route.)

The arrangement between Boscombe Down and the Empire Test Pilot School
is
essentially identical to the arrangement between the Air Force Flight
Test
Center and the USAF Test Pilot School or Naval Air Warfare Center and
the
USN Test Pilot School.  I didn't think there was any other way to do it,
as no self-respecting organization would rely on students to do their
test
flying.  I certainly didn't meant to imply that ETPS was anything more
than a tenant organization.

Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR
"Some days it don't come easy/And some days it don't come hard
Some days it don't come at all/And these are the days that never
end"

-
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Steve Apthorpe wrote:
 Machrianish, and [really] Mary.

 One thing that has always puzzled me is about sightings at Machrianish
 [sp].  Yes it is remote and secure, but certainly not in the same sense
 as Groom Lake.  As regards 'Aurora' type aircraft (it may have
 originated as an erroneous name from a budget listing, but it has now
 come to signify 'black, hypersonic programs.') there would be no
 operational reason to land outside of CONUS, let alone the
 considerations of security and ground support.

 Having said that, there have been suggestions that 'Senior Citizen' is a
 special ops transport (possibly V/STOL), and would therefore operate in
 the field.  Machrianish is/was a spec ops base (I think SEALs, possibly
 those who protect(ed) Holy Loch) so it is at least feasible that a Spec
 Ops transport may have been tested at Machrianish.  (I'm not saying it
 was tested there, I'm not even saying 'Senior Citizen' exists/ed, I'm
 just saying it is a more logical explanation of rumoured activity at
 Machrianish).

   Mary wrote:
   That's Boscombe Down, home of the Empire Test Pilot School  ...

 Correct, however the Empire Test Pilots School (ETPS) only train test
 pilots they do not perform any of the testing flying at Boscombe Down,
 DRA [or whatever they are calling AAEE these days, I lost track after
 emigrating], have their own test pilots.

   ...  It's not very far from Stonehenge, by the way.

 Hmmm, yes Stonehenge is about 2 miles west of the airfield, but why did
 you connect the two?  (can't remember any Druid flight trials in recent
 times).  I sincerely hope that you are not eluding to the 'infamous' [ie
 'It didn't happen, sorry to disappoint the 'true believers''] crash of
 1994 [yes I do know a bit more, which I can post if appropriate].  If
 this is your inference, I hope your tongue was planted firmly in your
 cheek as you were typing, or I'll expect you to be posting support for
 that bilge from Mr 'Stealth came from the aliens' Craddock ;-)  Mind
 you, it was your lot [ie NASA] who faked the moon landings, as we all
 now know to be 'fact';^)

 Steve
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[CTRL] DARK MOTHER CEREMONY

1999-08-08 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Prayer warriors necessary please. Knowledge is power. NB No one can
separate us from the love of God.
Nicky

Marian MacNeil wrote:

 UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com

 http://sites.netscape.net/hornbyhealing/homepage
 OR to
 PattiJeane Spencer's website: http://www.angel-light.com/prayers2.htm
 To view the Star Matrixs.



 Date:  Aug 07 1999 11:38:09 EDT
 From:  "Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Fw: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Notice of timing for the Sacred Matrix Symbol
 - Worldwide ]

 -Original Message-
 From: Loren Zephier [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 From: "pure.essence" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Notice of timing for the Sacred Matrix Symbol -
 Worldwide ]
 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:11:27 -0700

 (Note: This information does not represent the official PA'O's point
   of view and it does not support nor condemn the content of this
   information. Each individual is left to his/her discernment as to the
   validity of the information.)
  
  
  
   From: "Eamonn O,Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  WORLDWIDE CEREMONY FOR UNITY AND
   HARMONY OF OUR HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS
   MATRIX
   PROJECT
   AUGUST
   11th
   NEWSAUGUST 5th,1999. I ask everyone to please have patience with our
   return replies...we are getting hits from everywhere in the world on
   this Sacred Symbol THE SYMBOL HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED AS APPEARING
   IN A CROP CIRCLE NEAR STONEHENGE.  VERIFICATION HAS BEEN DONE IN
   REGARDS TO THE DARK MOTHER CEREMONY AND IT IS SCHEDULED TO GO ON THE
   10TH UNTIL THE 14 THE OF AUG.1999.THIS CEREMONY IS BEING CONDUCTED
   WITH ITS CENTRAL FOCUS IN EYGPT WITH RADIATING SUPPORT GROUPS FROM
   AROUND THE WORLD. OUR TASK IS TO CONTERACT THIS CEREMONY.  THIS IS A
   DOORWAY TO A CONSCIOUSNESS SHIFT TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AWARENESS
   OF OUR REALITY.  TO SHIFT CONSCIOUSNESS FROM THIS DUALISTIC POINT OF
   VIEW WE ALL NEED TO PLAY OUR PART.  AS THIS OTHER ORGANIZATION APPLIES
   PRESSURE ON THIS DOORWAY TO KEEP IT CLOSED, WE MUST APPLY AN EQUAL
   PRESSURE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.  THIS WAY THE DOORWAY DISAPPEARS AND WE
   BEGIN OUR SHIFT. THE FOCUS OF OUR INTENTION IS:UNITY THROUGH
   COMPASSION AND AWARENESS OF THE BLINDNESS CAUSED BY DUALISTIC
   THINKING.IT IS THROUGH THE ACCEPTANCE OF OUR ROLE THAT WE GIVE EQUAL
   IMPORTANCE TO - GOOD AND EVIL - LIGHT AND DARK -WE END THE POWER
   STUGGLE AND OPEN THE DOORWAY TO OUR HIGHEST CONSCIOUS POSSIBILTIY
   ANDRELEASE  OUR FREE WILL OF OUR SPIRITUAL BEING THE TRIGGER IS
   SIMILAR TO THE  100 MONKEY PRINCIPLE. ONCE A MINIMUM OF 11% of the
   entire population enter into an awareness, we all learn this awareness
   AUTOMATICALLY.  THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS 11 NUMBER, IS THAT ONCE 11%
   FOCUS ON WANTING SOMETHING THERE IS AN AUTOMATIC AND CORRESPONDING
   11% FOCUSED ON NOT WANTING THE SAMETHING.  THAT BRINGS OUR PERCENTAGE
   TO 22 AND A SHIFT IN OUR PRIMAL UNDERSTANDING OF OUR RELATIONSHIP TO
   THIS UNIVERSE PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING RELATIONSHIPS:  Grand Cross
   Formation of the Planets occursat the time of total eclipse on
   the  - 11th of Aug at 11 Am  The epicentre of this eclipse is at 11
   degrees  longatitude and the zenith of the eclipse is above
   Stonehenge.  7 Days later the Grand Star formation of our planets
   occur.The Matrix Project for WORLD CONSCIOUS UNITY begins on the7th of
   August and will continue until the 14th of August.  The pricipal; time
   of focus will be the 11th of August at 11:11 Am Grenwich/Zulu.  So
   please translated that time to your specific time zone, with chart
   below, in the North or southern hemisphere. THE MATRIX SYMBOL IS ALSO
   CALLED THE FOLLOWING:THE STAR OF DAVID, THE MORNING STAR, SIRIUS, THE
   SYMBOL OF CREATION, THE SYMBOL OF THE DIVINE UNITY OF OPPOSITIES, AND
   MANY OTHER NAMES:THIS SYMBOL APPEARS IN EVERY SPIRITUAL AND RELIGIOUS
   ORGANIZATION ON THIS PLANET IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER AS AN INDICATION OF
   THE DEVINE IN US ALLPlease focus the image of the Matrix symbol found
   at the following Web Site:
   http://sites.netscape.net/hornbyhealing/homepage  Please Forward this
   message to every Religious, Spiritual, Cultural,  Governmental, and
   concerned organization that you can think that will send this network
   around the world.  This is our destiny by choice. Me must exercise
   that option NOW.Please do not be attached to any outcome. Place the
   symbol in your mind and focus your personal intention on: COMPASSION
   FOR ALL HUMANITY AND OUR ENTIRE NATURAL WORLD THROUGH ACCEPTANCE OF
   OUR UNIQUE DIFFERENCES UNITED IN ONE CAUSE - OUR CONTINUED EXISTENCE
   IN THE NATURAL ORDER OF CREATION. THIS IS A TIME FOR GENTLE COMPASSION
   WITH NO FEAR OR ATTACHMENT OTHER THAN UNITY OF INTENTION AND PURPOSE
   WORLDWIDE.  PLEASE TAKE TIME WITH YOUSELF AND FAMILIES TO OPENLY
   RESLOVE AND DISPARITIES OR ISSUES THEY YOU MAY HAVE WITH THEM,
   

[CTRL] Cattle mutilation phenomena and HIV part 1

1999-08-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

Cattle Mutilation Phenomena and HIV

(c) 1999 Phillip S. Duke, PhD.

Introduction: Cattle mutilations are logically explainable only as
Extraterrestrial activities. The mutilation body materials taken all
correspond with
sites of HIV transmission or replication (blood) in humans, except for
the ear, which may contain a locator device. Circumstantial evidence
suggests cattle are mutilated primarily to harvest HIV antibodies and
virus from blood in quantity, and to obtain information relating to
possible
HIV transmission in humans, by study of the materials taken from
corresponding cattle mutilation sites. The left ear is always taken,
presumably
to facilitate locator retrieval. Healthy, live fetuses are also taken
from animals to be mutilated. The primary reason for cattle mutilations
may be to
harvest HIV antibodies. Cattle mutilation phenomena support the AIDS-ET
Connection.

By cattle mutilations I mean cattle found minus their blood and minus
certain body parts, removed with surgical precision, which humans and
animals do not eat by choice. Cattle are the family Bovidae,
domesticated Bos Taurus.

Cattle mutilations generally occur where cattle are raised and kept in
quantity on ranges or in pastures. Feed lots and related locations with
animals under relatively close human surveillance are not affected.
Cattle mutilations occur only when animals are out of human sight.
Prime,
strong, healthy animals are affected. I don't know of a single case
where an animal which is obviously unhealthy or injured was later found
mutilated. Mutilations commonly but not always occur at night. A
pedigreed, especially valuable animal is quite healthy and doing well
one day,
and found dead and mutilated the nest. Cattle mutilations are routinely
reported throughout the world, apparently wherever cattle are kept in
quantity. Since there is no central agency keeping records, the number
of mutilations is unknown, but it must number something more than a
thousand every year. It is not known how long cattle mutilations have
been occurring, but they have been reliably reported for at least
several
decades. There is no universally agreed upon explanation concerning what
or who is doing cattle mutilations (1,2). All investigators who are not
county agents agree; cattle mutilations are not the work of animal
predators.

The evidence suggesting cattle mutilations are ET phenomena is varied
and comes from numerous different sources. It is arrived at by logical
exclusion of all alternative explanations, and by being the only
explanation capable of explaining the strange facts. The ET explanation
is bizarre
but then so are the facts.

I consider it established beyond any doubt that animal predators are not
responsible. The removals of biological materials are invariable stated
to be "with surgical precision." There are no teeth marks on the
carcasses, no animal (or any other) tracks, even when animals are found
lying on
moist ground which would clearly show tracks. The animal parts eaten by
preference for food are not affected. The left ear is taken. All this
plus
the absence of blood in the carcass and on the ground shows clearly that
animal predators are not responsible for cattle mutilations. The
explanation propounded by county agents and others also bound to the
same politically correct position, which of course means they cannot
consider ETs, is that "coyotes are responsible." This was responded to
by one cattleman with the statement, "If coyotes can do this we are in
deep trouble."

It has been proposed that human beings cause cattle mutilations. As the
valuable meat is left to rot, and as the body locations mutilated are
bizarre and include those related to reproduction and excretion, it was
suggested that some kind of bizarre sexual cult activity is involved.
The
evidence suggests otherwise. No cult is known which treats animals this
way, and no one has ever claimed 'credit' for these illegal activities.
The
number, nature, and geographical extent of world wide mutilation is so
great, that an immense, very large, very well funded, and will organized
human organization would be required.It would be much easier and safer
for such a cult to buy animals and mutilate and dispose of them in
secret. Due to the absence of any evidence that any such cult exists,
the absence of any logical human motive, the absence of a human ever
claiming 'credit' for them, I readily discard the concept that humans
are responsible for (the vast majority) of cattle mutilations. If that
were the
case, there would surely be at least some evidence suggestion this, when
in fact there is none at all.

In the absence of anything better, and in view of the facts, hard headed
down to earth cattle people with no interest at all in science fiction
and
without any knowledge of the subject have been left with only "flying
saucers" as the explanation of cattle mutilations. Mutilated animals
have
been found with broken legs and backs and with their 

[CTRL] More on Phoenix Evacuation

1999-08-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/1219/index.html
 Some say it is a reptoid underground base
Nicky


Aug. 7, 1999
More on Phoenix Evacuation

 Activity taking place on the White Earth Reservation at Lakeside,
Arizonanorth of Sholow.

During the last 30 - 60 days:
 Police force has quadrupled.
 Russian troops have grown into many thousands.
 Massive movement of military equipment toward White Mountain.
 All are unfriendly to townspeople.

Police being brought in from other places. They are dressed in black
jumpsuits.
 Having meetings with Civil Defense employees.
 Telling them to prepare for evacuation.
 Meetings held at Lakeside school.
 Posters are given out to place around town - in schools 
businesses.
 Posters are about evacuation.

Why all this activity?
 Flashing lights in sky over White Mountain.
 UFO sightings increase over White Mountain.
 Is there to be, perhaps, a mock battle?

Indians on White Mountain Apache Reservation will be watching August 11
- 13, 1999 very closely.
 Return of Ancestors

There are underground government facilities near Sholow and Heber.
 Activity there increasing.

Concentrated activity at Lakeside. Roads up White Mountain are closed
from time to time.
 Get there by using Route 10 - East from Phoenix
 Or through Payson.

 I'll post more information as it comes in. The above information is
from a VERY reliable source.

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[CTRL] Cattle mutilation phenomena and HIV part 2

1999-08-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.ufo-net.clara.net/cattle_hiv.html for page.





It has also been suggested that the military is mutilating cattle,
producing "copy cat" obviously flawed mutilations by human beings,
presumable to weaken the position that ETs are involved in cattle
mutilations. I have no idea whether this is so, however such activities
would
be consistent with the overall politically correct policy, in effect
since about 1947, of debunking all ET phenomena. Then this situation
would be
analogous to the attempted debunking of crop circles, by counterfeiters
of the real thing. Existence of counterfeits does not mean the real
thing
doesn't exist. In fact, the real thing must exist, to justify the
existence of its counterfeit.

My position is, cattle mutilation phenomena started out being and are
primarily ET activities. What may be going on secondarily is known only
to those doing it and ordering it done. I would not be surprised if
human beings are following in the alien foot steps, and attempting to do
what
they do, to help understand what they do, and why they do it. And
possibly also trying to muddy the waters, and throw investigators off
the
track, in the process.

So far I have briefly presented the generally known evidence suggesting
cattle mutilation phenomena are ET. Next I present some evidence
based on the research of Dr. Colm Kelleher, Deputy Administrator, and
Dr. George Onet D.V.M. PhD, both of The National Institute of Discovery
science (NIDS), which in cooperation with the Bigelow Foundation is
investigating cattle mutilations (4). The NIDS letter to veterinarians
is
shown in Letter Illustration 4-1. To follow this recent work we must
first look more closely at the details of cattle mutilation.

Cattle mutilation phenomena are readily and logically associated with
HIV be the known natures of both. Cattle mutilations consist
specifically of
blood removal, anal coring (with precision, the analogy "like an apple
core' is applied), and vaginal and reproductive material removal. One
eye
and one ear (the left), a variable region of skin, part of the mouth/jaw
and the udder if present, are also taken. It is readily seen that all
the
mutilation sites/materials taken except the female reproductive material
eggs) and the ear, correspond with human HIV transmission sites.

With the ear, only the pinna, the largely cartilaginous projecting
portion of the external ear, which also functions to help collect sound
and
protect the ear canal, is taken. The pinna being mostly cartilage
provides limited information concerning cellular status. I suggest the
possibility
that the left pinna is taken because it contains a locator implant. For
consistency an ear on the same, one side would be employed. If one or
the
other side ear were employed, it would be necessary to correlate animal
with ear before removal. Then the only way to be certain of implant
removal would be to take both ears, requiring more time. If an error
were made taking only one ear, from the wrong side, the implant would be
left.
With the method employed, as long as the left ear is taken, implant
recovery is assured.

The idea that mutilated animal's left ears contained locator implants
has implicit in it the concept that these animals were implanted at some
time
prior time, for mutilation at a subsequent date. The question is, why
the elapsed time? Once an animal is selected for mutilation, why not
proceed
immediately, while already at the scene? A possible answer is found in
the removal of cattle blood.

Bovines are large animals. Large animals are always more difficult to
work with than small animals. Use of large animal and complete removal
of
its blood suggests the desired use requires a large quantity of blood.
Blood might conceivable be used as food but blood is mostly water, high
in sodium chloride (salt), and it is not a good nutritional source. If
food were desired, there is much more and much better nutrition in the
animal's
meat, which is quality protein. That is why we eat it. With cattle
mutilations, however, the meat is never taken.

Cattle blood might conceivably be employed for numerous other uses, but
there is only one use I conceive that involves initial contact followed
by harvesting at a later date. I suggest that on initial contact cattle
are selected, implanted and inoculated with an antigenic microbiological
agent, such as HIV. After time for an adequate antigenic response the
blood is all removed, after which the agent, and antibodies to it, are
separated from the blood. Human science employs somewhat similar
procedures to produce what are called antitoxins, protein antibodies, to
certain microorganisms. For example tetanus antitoxin is obtained by
injecting tetanus antigen (killed organisms) into horses. Horse blood is
subsequently harvested and the protein antibodies to tetanus are
separated, purified, and employed by injection, providing immediate
protection
for humans recently exposed to possible tetanus 

[CTRL] Creation of one faith for all of us ?

1999-08-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/19990810_xnjdo_group_want.shtml
For the links.



Group wants united religion
  Is goal mere co-operation
  or creation of one faith?


  By Jon E. Dougherty
  © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

  Representatives of all religious faiths from some 50
countries
  have held regular meetings since 1995 for the purpose
of
  creating one global religion, according to a United
Religions
  Initiative.

  According to the group's draft charter, the effort is
"the result
  of a growing global conversation about the creation of
the
  United Religions -- a daily forum for cooperation and
  peacemaking among religions and spiritual
communities."

  During their four-year history, URI has sponsored
numerous
  global events, six regional conferences and three
global
  summits in San Francisco from 1996 to 1998.

  Citing "forces in our world today that are calling for
and
  supporting the creation of a United Religions," the
group is
  busy exploring a purpose, foundational values,
principles,
  actions and organization structure URI may eventually
adopt.

  However, critics of the initiative question the
rationale for the
  adoption of such a globalized religion and question
what
  "entity" -- taken from Christianity or another faith
-- the religion
  will choose to sanctify. Based on URI's published
statements,
  that entity appears to be focused more on earthly
"spirits" than
  on God or Jesus Christ.

  For example, according to a published summary of URI's
goals
  and projects, the group believes that "all living
beings are both
  sacred and connected," and "recent human activities,
which
  have taken place in aggressive opposition to nature,
have
  resulted in an ecological crisis." The alleged crisis,
URI said,
  includes "deforestation, the loss of wild lands,
overpopulation,
  the loss of productive agricultural lands, degradation
of the
  resources of the water planet, dependence on
non-renewable
  energy sources, and extinction of species." The group,
  however, cites no specific studies or evidence to
substantiate
  their claims.

  Christianity, on the other hand, teaches believers
that Man has
  "dominion over the earth" and does not "share" it with
animals.
  Christians also believe in one Supreme Being, not a
series of
  "gods" that preside over specific earthly functions.

  Furthermore, among URI's "actionable ideas" are
several
  statements indicating the group is largely concerned
about
  issues involving primarily "children and women," which
critics
  say is biased and exclusionary against men. And, they
added,
  such inclinations do not measure up to normal
religious
  standards of unity.

  For example, signatories to the URI document must
agree to "...
  express our gravest concerns about the worldwide
brutalities
  against children and women, including physical,
mental, and
  sexual violence and rape as it occurs all over the
world. We
  earnestly appeal that all religious, spiritual and
ethical
  movements and individuals take all possible steps to
end this
  violence against children and women."

  Bill Rankin, a spokesman for URI, told WorldNetDaily
that as a
  Christian he understood how other Christians might
  misunderstand the focus of his group. However, he
said,
  "that's not what we're about."

  "URI is interested in unity," he said, "and in finding
the
  common ground that exists in all of the world's
religions. We
  don't intend to make any one of them preeminent."

  Rankin denied URI was working to create a so-called
"one
  world religion." In a published statement, URI said
the group's
  members only seek "to bring people of different
religions and
  spiritual traditions together in ways that respect and
celebrate
  their uniqueness. The 'united' part of the URI is not
a blending
  of religions but a unity of purpose: to work
cooperatively for
  the good of all people."

  

[CTRL] War of words on the Internet

1999-08-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

War of words on the Internet

 The Kashmir a Paradise homepage - hackers hardly give up

 By Laurence Peter at BBC Monitoring

 Hacking, previously dominated by teenage computer
whizzkids, often with no
 particular axe to grind, now looks set to become a
propaganda weapon.

 Recent cyber-attacks on an Indian army Website and a
pro-Albanian Kosovo site
 both bear the hallmarks of nationalist ideological
campaigns, and in Belarus,
 hackers posted defamatory material on President Alyaksandr
Lukashenka's own
 Web pages.

 Strangers in Paradise

 On 16 October, 1998, the Indian news agency PTI reported
that "suspected
 Pakistani intelligence operatives" had "hijacked the Indian
army's only Website,
 Kashmir A Paradise, which gives the Indian view on Kashmir.

 The Website's guestbook, where users can leave comments,
was "full of
 anti-India superlatives and four-letter adjectives," PTI
reported, describing the
 attack as "part of a cyberwar launched ahead of the
Indo-Pakistani talks," which
 began in Islamabad that day.

 PTI quoted unnamed defence ministry officials as saying
there was an urgent need
 to have an Internet policy to counter such attacks, but in
August an Indian
 supreme court lawyer, Pawan Duggal, told PTI that India was
"totally
 ill-equipped to tackle the onslaught of cyber crimes".

 The Kashmir A Paradise site was soon back to normal, but a
week after the attack
 the homepage still warned: "Desperate hacker keeps on
trying," "3 attempts in 3
 days".

 Revenge of the Black Hand

 On 20 October, 1998, the Kosovo Information Centre (KIC),
which supports the
 party of the ethnic Albanian leader, Dr Ibrahim Rugova,
reported that "hackers
 claiming to be members of the Serbian terrorist
organization Crna Ruka [Black
 Hand] hacked its Web page.

 The hackers posted a copy of the Serbian national symbol,
and captions in
 Serbian and English:

 "Welcome to the Web page of the biggest liars and
killers!", and "Brother
 Albanians, this coat of arms will be in your flag as long
as you exist!"

 The KIC said visitors were "outraged by this hacking", the
provider in New York
 was contacted to prevent further intrusions.

 The pages were restored, but the hackers soon returned with
a vengeance.

 "This site is hacked by Serbian Hackers Team Crna Ruka.
 Long Live Great Serbia!!!", their new posting read.

 Earlier, the independent Belgrade-based news agency Beta
reported that a Serb
 hacker had forced a Swiss Internet provider to withdraw an
edition of the Kosovar
 Albanian newspaper Glas Kosova from the Internet, by
posting anti-Kosovo
 Albanian messages on the newspaper's Website.

 The provider managed to contact the hacker in Poland, who
said he was a
 Yugoslav student. But when he noticed he was being
monitored, he damaged the
 hard disk of one of the Swiss provider's computers, Beta
reported.

 New Challenge for Russian Spooks

 The Russia TV channel last year reported that there were
"regular attempts by
 hackers to penetrate the state authorities' computer
networks".

 The head of Russia's Federal Agency for Government
Communications (FAPSI)
 warned that abuse of modern communications technology could
"affect the
 psychology of nations".

 In neighbouring Belarus, the Website of President
Alyaksandr Lukashenka has
 been repeatedly hacked into, the Russian daily
Komsomolskaya Pravda reported.

 On one occasion, hackers opened a new Website with an image
of Lukashenka
 "which starts turning, before your very eyes, first into
Hitler, then into Stalin,
 then back into Lukashenka," the paper said in July.

 Race to stay ahead

 Governments are now urgently trying to stay ahead of the
game as information
 technology becomes ever more sophisticated and widespread.

  In March, Israeli police arrested an 18-year-old
believed to be the hacker
  who broke into the Pentagon's computer system.

  The police had received help from the US authorities,
and several other
  suspected hackers were detained for breaking into
other systems,
  including that used by the Israeli parliament.

  The first prosecutions were brought in Russia and
China this year
  against computer hackers.

  In 

[CTRL] icke_e-magazine] LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE

1999-08-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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texians1st wrote:

   

 Subject: [icke_e-magazine] LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE
 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:37:20 -0500
 From: "David Icke E!~Magazine" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just in from David

 LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE
 AT GIZA, EGYPT, AUGUST 11TH

 Giza, Egypt, August 11th 1999.

 http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-4/giza.html

 -

 Why? Maybe one of the answers is here:
 http://www.immunotex.com/pyramid

 
This book ( above) - Hidden Mysteries of the Pyramid by David Lewis is
fantastic. I recommend it.
In 1936 in Greece 97 feet below land surface a small cigar sized box was
found. Containing 5 parchment scrolls in near perfect condition, in 5
languages, including part Hebrew, some Arabic, Mayan and even Atlantean.
After decades of translation, the documents showed a code for gaining
access to the secret chamber 500 feet below the baseline of the pyramid.
A date was clearly read as 1260 AD. In 1976 6 expeditions were made to
this series of rooms. This book is a record of what they found - a
treasure trove of scientific instruments (still working) and recordings
left by a superior race ages ago.

 The author was an original member of the group. The book contains the
pyramid's purpose.It describes ETs coming here 576,001 BC. The  Great
Pyramid is the only pyramid on the face of the earth that contains the
geometrical measurements, giving us the exact dates of all the Biblical
prophecies and the exactness of the years from the time of Adam to the
final destiny of mankind which appears to end at Sept 17 2,001  AD. The
pyramid inch is equal to a solar year. Finally the pyramid symbolism,
when connected with Biblical prophecy, indicates that its message is
addressed to our present era and not the functions of long ago.

In Windows 95 programs/Fun with Photos/Easy Photo there is a great photo
of the pyramid and Sphinx that you can use for wallpaper too.

Regards, Nicky

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[CTRL] David Icke interview

1999-08-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 David Icke Interview
 made FRONT PAGE in a Nevada Newspaper...

 I have attached the text file of it..
It will go out later to all the subscribers
 It is copyrighted by the The Spectrum and must be sent out unchanged...

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   Are "Their" Aliens
   Among Us?
  ~The Biggest Secret~
  An Interview With David Icke
  7/30/99 ~ RICK MARTIN

  From The SPECTRUM newspaper's ~~Front Page~~ story!
August 3, 1999, Vol 1 Number 3.
   To order The SPECTRUM call (877) 280-2866.
Web site:www.spectrumnews10.com [http://www.spectrumnews10.com]


 --

 David Icke has become a highly sought-after lecturer, worldwide, and
 it is no wonder. His books in recent years have covered the full
 range of topics concerning the so-called "elite" global controllers
 and their stranglehold on the masses.

 His most recent book, titled ~The Biggest Secret~, is his most daring
 work to date. To say that it takes on even more than its title
 suggests, is still quite an understatement.

  On July 8, 1999, I caught up with David, by telephone, in London.
 While he was recovering from a prolonged bout with a flu bug, and we
 would have been thankful with just a short interview under the
 circumstances, I think you will agree with me that he was in fine
 form during this conversation.

  David hits hard on a wide range of topics, some of which will,
 surely, stretch your beliefs and expand your thinking. This is,
 literally, a "fasten your seatbelts and hold on to your hat" kind of
 conversation which captures David's riveting speaking style as best
 that can be done in print.

  If you do not read this interview with an open mind, you will
 probably just dismiss the entire thing. But as a careful reading of
 ~The Biggest Lie [Secret]~will reveal, David has definitely done his
 homework-as usual!

 As David told me, he has just done a month in Australia, New Zealand,
 Hong Kong, and America. He is now, as I write, in South Africa for a
 month, then back to America in September. He is confirmed in Seattle,
 Washington to speak at Washington State CTC from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on
 September 25; tickets for that event are available through
 Ticketmaster (206) 628-0888. His schedule for other events may be
 accessed through his website which is: {http://www/davidicke.com
 [http://www/davidicke.com] }. His very controversial video tape with
 Illuminati mind-control victim Arizona Wilder, is available from
 Bookworld and elsewhere, but for your convenience The SPECTRUM is
 also carrying this video ~Revelations of a Mother Goddess~ and his
 newest book ~The Biggest Secret~; see back page for ordering
 information. If you would like to contact David for a speaking
 engagement or conference, he may be reached by calling Royal Adams at
 602-657-6992 or fax at 602-657-6994. British or European inquiries
 may be made at Bridge of Love ~ United Kingdom on 01983 566002. [ ~
 Bridge of Love ~ Australia - Phone +61 7 3209 7902 FREECALL in
 Australia 1800 099 902 ~]

  With all of that said, sit back and read the latest insights from a
 researcher who has dared to probe into the darkest corners and speak
 out on some areas that, to-date, seemingly no one, on a global scale,
 has been willing to touch. It is very appropriate that two of David's
 other books include: ~And The Truth Shall Set You Free~ and ~The
 Robot's Rebellion.~

  We are in a time when personal responsibility is the challenge
 affecting us all-big time! What if each of us simply made a
 resolution to follow the three suggestions David makes near the end
 of his conversation? Sometimes the simplest ideas to put into words
 are the hardest to truly carry out.
 --

 ~~Martin:~~ I'm talking to you at the seat of global power today,
 namely London. Not only are you located at the seat of power, but
 there are many horrific and nasty things taking place behind the
 seemingly respectable old stone walls of those various places.

 ~~Icke:~~ Right, absolutely.

  ~~Martin:~~ As our readers are very well versed on the Global
 Controllers generally, let's cut to the chase with the bad news first
 and go from there. What is ~The Biggest Secret~, as your new book is
 so appropriately titled?

  ~~Icke:~~ The 'biggest secret' that's emerging is that back in the
 ancient world, we can debate when, but certainly you can pick it up
 around 5,000 B.C., a series of bloodlines emerged, particularly but
 not exclusively-particularly, really, the focus of power was in the
 Near and Middle East.

  These bloodlines became the leaders and the Royal lines of that
 ancient Near and Middle Eastern area. This bloodline would appear to
 go back to an extra-terrestrial intervention 

[CTRL] Dutch to legalise euthanasia-

1999-08-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Tuesday August 10, 10:52 PM

Dutch to legalise euthanasia-even for 12-year-olds

By Karen Iley

AMSTERDAM, Aug 10 - The Netherlands plans to make history by legalising
mercy killings in a controversial government bill
that would also make children as young as 12 eligible for euthanasia.

The bill, delivered to the lower house on Monday, proposes immunity from
criminal prosecution for doctors provided they follow strict
guidelines when performing euthanasia.

The law would also apply to incurably ill young children, so long as the
parents agree. In exceptional circumstances, a doctor could perform
euthenasia even without parental consent.

"In the case of 12 to 15 year olds the consent of the parents or
guardian is required, but in the event of refusal... a minor's request
may
nevertheless be met if the doctor is convinced this would prevent
serious detriment to the patient," the Justice and Health (LSE: sUB44.L
-
news) ministries said.

The bill also recognises for the first time the validity of written
requests to die.

Both the Voluntary Euthanasia Society (NVVE) and the Royal Dutch Medical
Association (KNMG) welcomed the development, which
removes already liberal Dutch policy from a legal grey area.

"After more than 25 years of discussion there will be legislation for
death at one's own request. This is a significant step in the right
direction," the NVVE said.

Political opposition was expected from the main opposition Christian
Democrats and small Calvinist parties. But provided the three
government parties unite behind the bill, its passage through parliament
should be smooth.

The Dutch have tolerated mercy killings for years, but right-to-die
campaigners and doctors have long pressed for immunity from criminal
prosecution for doctors.

In 1997, a doctor was charged with murder after allegedly ignoring
euthanasia guidelines when he injected a patient with a fatal dose of
insulin.

The KNMG said cases of terminally-ill children requesting death were few
and the vital dialogue and relationship between doctor, patient and
family would remain.

"The doctor will do his utmost to try to reach an agreement between
patient and parents," said Karin Hagelstein, KNMG spokeswoman. "If
there is no unanimous agreement, then it is the doctor's duty to fulfill
the wishes of the patient."

"Doctors find that children who have gone through such a long and tragic
illness are capable of making their own decisions. A child which
has entered the last terminal phase can be very clear about what he or
she wants. They've seen a lot, they're tired. If parents don't want to
cooperate it is the doctor's duty to respect the wishes of their
patient," she said.

In all cases, doctors must adhere strictly to guidelines.

The patient, who must be facing unbearable suffering, must make the
request on a voluntary, well-considered and sustained basis. Their must
be no reasonable alternative and the doctor must give advice on the
patient's situation and consequences.

The doctor must also consult at least one other independent physician
who also agrees with the due care requirements, and the euthanasia
must be performed with due medical care.

Regional committees, set up in 1997, will continue to review whether
these criteria have been met.

The NVVE, while welcoming the bill as a whole, criticised some of the
criteria as either too vague or too tough and said doctors therefore
remained vulnerable to prosecution.

The only previous attempt to legalise euthanasia was in September 1996
when Australia's Northern Territory approved medically-assisted
euthanasia only to see the law revoked in March 1997.

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Re: [CTRL] Dutch to legalise euthanasia-

1999-08-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Hi Prudy,

I have heard terrible stories about that being abused there though. Like
they have got carried away and that there are no old people's homes now.
I guess with the fight for space it is practical. Could get out of hand
don't you think?

Nicky


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  AMSTERDAM, Aug 10 - The Netherlands plans to make history by legalising
  mercy killings in a controversial government bill
  that would also make children as young as 12 eligible for euthanasia.

  The bill, delivered to the lower house on Monday, proposes immunity from
  criminal prosecution for doctors provided they follow strict
  guidelines when performing euthanasia. 

 At last people are to be allowed to die peacefully and with dignity.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Dutch to legalise euthanasia

1999-08-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Hi Kathleen,

Maybe they would like the money left to them too. I wouldn't like to be
old there and I suppose the cost of the rest homes would eat away the
finance. The old person may feel guilty not leaving the rellies anything
and say I'll go now and you can benefit.  What a horrible dilemma to be
in, feeling guilty for being a burden too possibly.

nicky



 The old people who remain are also afraid of their doctors.  They
 never know whether their loving family members may have them
 involuntarily euthanised.

 Kathleen

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Re: [CTRL] Dutch to legalise euthanasia

1999-08-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Hi June,

I got it from a Dutch person and there have been a few full pages
articles in the local paper over the years which I have saved. My Dutch
friend committed suicide a few years ago, she was only about 40 but just
had enough of life. Her mother didn't think it was a great idea. Which
age do you draw the line for - suicide at 40 or voluntary euthanasia at
50?  Not much difference really is there?

Nicky


 I'd like to know where you both get your supposed 'information'...

 None of my Dutch relatives feel the way you describe, and indeed always
 have thought of voluntary euthanasia the civilized thing, and welcome
 the chance to make that choice for themselves...and have never feared
 that it would be forced upon them by others

 I share their opinion, and would rather be 'put down' than spend out my
 days in a nursing home...

 June ;-)

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[CTRL] Is bin Laden a nuclear power?

1999-08-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Is bin Laden
  a nuclear power?


  © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
By JR Nyquist

  According to Yosef Bodansky, a researcher attached to
the
  House counter-terrorism task force, a Middle East
terrorist is
  now believed to have as many as 20 suitcase nuclear
bombs. In
  addition, this same terrorist is alleged to possess
biological and
  chemical weapons of mass destruction.

  Supposedly, Chechnyan rebels managed to steal nuclear
  suitcase bombs from the Russian military. These bombs
were
  then smuggled out of Russia and sold to Osama bin
Laden, an
  international fugitive and terrorist hiding in
Afghanistan.
  Readers may recall that Osama bin Laden is a Saudi
national
  accused of masterminding the Aug. 7, 1998, bombings of
the
  U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam. These
bombings
  killed 224 people and left over 5,000 injured.

  Blaming Osama bin Laden for the African bombings,
President
  Clinton launched an air strike against bin Laden's
Afghan base
  camp. This air strike, as Clinton's luck would have
it, came
  shortly after he publicly apologized for the Monica
Lewinsky
  affair. Clinton also ordered an air strike against a
  pharmaceutical plant in Sudan, claiming it was a
chemical
  weapons factory.

  More recently, Clinton Administration officials have
accused
  Osama bin Laden of plotting bomb attacks against the
United
  States Embassy and two consulates in India. The U.S.
  government has offered five million dollars to anyone
who
  provides information leading to bin Laden's arrest or
  conviction.

  In Afghanistan bin Laden is considered a war hero for
risking
  his life in the struggle against Moscow's client
armies.
  Therefore, it is not surprising that many Afghans were
  dismayed at the idea that bin Laden was a threat to
America.
  The pro-Taliban Shariat newspaper noted, "America is a
  superpower with a strong economy and a strong
political
  system, so why does it have such an obsession for a
person
  who is very weak?"

  The Taliban judiciary began its own formal
investigation into
  U.S. claims that bin Laden was waging a war of terror
against
  the United States. The three-week inquiry was headed
by
  Afghanistan's chief justice, Noor Muhammed Saqib.
Chief
  Justice Saqib asked the U.S. government to provide
evidence
  so that he could act, but the United States offered no
evidence
  at all. "It is their shame that they have been
silent," said an
  angry Saqib. "Anything that happens now anywhere in
the
  world they blame Osama, but the reality is in the
proof -- they
  have not given us any."

  At his Friday press conference, Bodanksy cited Russian
and
  Saudi intelligence sources to support his stunning
allegations.
  He also said that Osama bin Laden was attempting to
recruit
  "former Soviet special forces" to operate the bombs
behind
  enemy lines.

  Bodansky's sources, however, are suspect. One must
always
  treat the claims of Russian officials with near-total
skepticism.
  Can we really believe that the anti-Soviet bin Laden
would work
  closely with former Soviet commandos who were his
deadly
  enemies in the past? And what sort of Russian special
forces
  soldier would assist an anti-Russian terrorist? It is
doubtful
  that any such person has ever existed in the ranks of
Soviet or
  Russian special forces. In the last analysis, it is
more likely that
  Bodansky has been fed false information.

  The same goes for the Saudis, who have probably been
duped
  by Russian intelligence agents. The idea that a minor
terrorist,
  confined to the wilds of Afghanistan, has obtained a
nuclear
  arsenal that would be the envy of Libya or Iraq --
with their
  billions -- is absurd on its face. Besides this, the
sophistication
  required to effectively handle weapons of mass
destruction
  belongs only to governments that have billions of
dollars and
  armies of dedicated technical 

[CTRL] The Protocols

1999-08-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Here's another version.
Regards,
Nicky

Straykat wrote:

 I was recently sent a post concerning 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of
 Zion', and that they are the blue print for a world conspiracy. Below is my
 response to the use of these forgeries to bring about anti Semitism.

 Straykat wrote:

  Dear Mary,
  The Protocols, of which I have 2 copies, are something I have been very
  familiar with for the last 12 years. I have also read the material that
  states these documents are fakes. As you stated in the message below these
  documents are not fakes but are a true "blue print" for the taking over of
  society and to usher in a global socialist state. I have done research into
  the background and origin of these documents, and  they are a lot older than
  100 years. In actual fact they date back to the time of the Crusades
  somewhere around the 12th Century. The documents as we have them today are
  not a copy of the originals but an altered variant, a counterfeit
  perpetrated by the intelligence community of Czarist Russia, under Nicholas
  II.  Nicholas II, however was persuaded that they were a forgery and
  denounced them as a pollutant to the pure cause of anti Semetism. The
  Czarist intelligence agent most likely responsible for this forgery was,
  Poytr Rachkovsky. Rachkovsky specialised in forgery and agent provocateurs,
  and under took this task apparently to bring about a purge of Jewish
  citizenry in Russia. These documents then did not resurface until the rise
  of Nazism and were used by Hitler to further his anti Semitic cause.
 
  The documents themselves originated from the Latin/Frankish Kingdom of the
  Holy Land after the Crusaders won it back from the Islamic Saracens in 1099
  AD. The first king, Godfroi de Bouillon, apparently was the direct
  descendant of the Merovingian Blood Line of France. The origins of this
  kingdom and the choosing of its first king were an unknown mystical order of
  monks which came from Calabria. This kingdom was named 'Outremer', and was
  founded by the  monastic order called, The Priory of Sion. Their abbey which
  was supposedly built upon the the tomb of King David, was called, 'Prieure
  de Notre Dame du Mont de Sion', or in english, 'The Abbey of the Order of
  Mount Zion'. This order then spawned another monastic military order to
  protect this bloodline, called, 'The Order of the Temple', or commonly
  referred to as 'The Knights Templar'. Both of these orders are the ancestors
  of all modern day secret societies and their dogmas. The Knights Templar,
  although answerable only to the Pope through the intervention of Bernard of
  Clairveaux, along with the Priory of Sion, were a law unto themselves. Their
  religious philosophy was a mixture of Roman Christianity and Pagan
  Tradition, Judaic Kabbalism, Islamic mysticism, and Cathari mysticism.
 
  The so called plot for world domination was the blue print of the Priory of
  Sion, thus the documents to which you refer were written by the 'Elders of
  Sion'. They were a Gentile Monastic Order that incorporated Pharisaic,
  Judaic Kabbalism. So the theory behind the Protocols being a Jewish
  conspiracy to take over the world is incorrect. It is a Gentlie/Kabblistic
  conspiracy, and its political arm is Humanistic Socialism.
 
  The reason for this conspiracy dates back to the time of Jesus himself. It
  is believed by these Societies, that the wedding feast at Canna was that of
  Jesus to Mary of Magdalene. It is believed that Jesus was the True Priest
  King of Israel and not the 'Son of God', but the High Priest to the 'Sun
  God, Baal' or the Egyptian version, 'Amon Ra'. After the crucifixion, out of
  fear of the the Jewish rulers, which in fact were not Jews but Herodians, a
  believing Pharisee, Joseph of Arimethea, smuggled Mary and her child out of
  Judea and settled in France. It is believed that the bloodline of this child
  resulted in the Merovingian Kingdom of France. This kingdoms last true blood
  ruler was that of Dagobert II. After Dagobert their were half cast kings who
  were weak and eventually the monarchy was usurped by the Carolingians.
  However, it is believed that the blood line from Dagobert II went
  underground and his descendants were known as the Hermit Kings. After the
  failure of their uprising against Louis II in 881 AD, they were exiled to
  Brittany. The bloodline then fled to England in 914 AD, as a result of the
  Viking raids. Bera IV, descendant of Dagobert II, became an architect and
  his descendants practised the 'Art of Building' (Masonry). Hughes, son of
  Jean I, and great, great grandson to Bera IV, married Agnes, Countess of
  Jumiege. Hughes died in 1015 and Agnes remarried to Ernicule, the Count of
  Boulogne, consequently Hughes descendants (The Royal Bloodline) became the
  'Counts of Boulogne'. Hughes great grandson was, Godfroi de Bouillon, Duke
  of Lower Lorraine, King of Jerusalem and founder of the 

[CTRL] The Verge of Vaccine Mania

1999-08-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/SecondOpinion/secondopinion.html

   ABCNEWS ON TVThe Verge of Vaccine Mania


 A Shot for This, a Shot for That How Much Is Too Much?
With so many vaccines recommended before children enter school, how can
parents be sure that all of the immunizations work together safely?
(A.Shepherd /
  ABCNEWS.com)



   By Nicholas Regush
   ABCNEWS.com
   Beware old files. They may hold the
   ingredients for gastrointestinal upset. The
file
   that I just had to stick my nose in was
   slugged, “Vaccine advocates with ties to
   vaccine makers.”
  I like to keep tabs on what might be considered
conflicts of
 interest in medicine. At the least, it diminishes the
chance that I’ll
 embarrass myself by putting someone on a national TV
network
 news show who is involved in public health policy but
whose
 voice, eyes, ears and perhaps other anatomical
components are
 leased, if not wholly owned, by industry.
  Flipping through the contents of the file, I
noticed a letter that
 had been sent to ABCNEWS from a well-known vaccine
 advocate. It partly had to do with a story I had
produced for
 World News Tonight. The story was a rather soft
warning, based
 on preliminary scientific information, that certain
vaccines given
 in infancy could potentially cause long-term harm,
primarily
 because the body’s immune function could be altered in
some
 way.
  As far as news stories go, it was fairly low-key
and in no way
 condemned vaccines, but rather suggested that more
research on
 long-term effects was imperative. In fact, the story
made clear that
 vaccines have contributed enormously to warding off
many
 diseases, a view I continue to hold strongly today.

 Inexpert Analysis?
 What caused a burning sensation in my gut in reviewing
the
 letter was the writer’s criticism of Barbara Loe
Fisher, who, as
 co-founder and president of the nonprofit National
Vaccine
 Information Center, has spoken out on vaccine issues
affecting
 health-care professionals and tens of thousands of
families
 affected by vaccine-related side effects. The
letter-writer
 suggested that since she wasn’t an “immunization
authority,”
 Fisher shouldn’t have appeared in the World News
Tonight story.

  (As readers of this column know, I can get quite
annoyed
 when so-called health professionals try to bash people
who do
 not share their views. I’ve noted that this is a
practice that has
 become increasingly common and downright shameless.)
  In any case, we had checked out Fisher’s
credentials, as we do
 with others. She had served on the National Vaccine
Advisory
 Committee, chaired the Subcommittee on Adverse Vaccine
Events
 and written a highly touted book on vaccine safety
issues,
 particularly those surrounding the whole cell pertussis
or
 whooping cough vaccine. But what really caught our
attention at
 World News Tonight, and what separated Fisher from the
pool of
 academics, including the letter-writer, who advocate
vaccine
 policy, is that she had a history of asking
straightforward,
 pertinent questions about safety.

 Vacuum Filler
 Questions such as:
   Why are there no studies on the long-term effects
of
 vaccination?
Why are there so few studies that have examined
what
 happens in the body at a cellular/molecular level after
 vaccination?
Why are we vaccinating children in a vacuum of
scientific
 knowledge?
Why are there no long-term studies to assess
illness and
 deaths related to vaccination?
  These are the kind of fundamental questions that
anyone
 involved in vaccine policy should be addressing, but
that is
 hardly the case. People like Fisher are badly needed on
TV and
 radio news programs and in newspaper stories to raise
these
 questions again and again — until the academics wake up
and do

[CTRL] [Fwd: US Air Force-Spraying Toxic Substances--But WHICH U.S.Air Force?]

1999-08-16 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

http://www.pufori.org/omega_agency.htm

Hi all this is really important.The Omega group is written about here.
Regards,
Nicky




"NewsHawk Inc." wrote:

 US Air Force--Spraying Toxic Substances?

 Copyright NewsHawk Inc.
 All rights reserved.

 No sooner do we find out that spooks from Air Force intelligence
 sub-agencies are deeply involved in the programming and such of the
 mind-controlled mass shooters currently activated to terrorize our
 nation, then we come across (more) HARD PROOF that the USAF is ALSO
 dispersing various substances from it's KC-135s and other craft on a
 regular and high-volume basis.

 These substances, according to testimony from unwilling victims all over
 North America INCLUDING Canada, are responsible for a bewildering and
 extensive list of severe and debilitating physical distress and disease.
 As well, documentation exists that at least some of the materials
 dispersed by U.S. aircraft consist of toxic metals including but not
 only aluminum; ALSO very high levels of UNUSUAL (as in GENETICALLY
 altered) molds and fungi--substances which are known to have a very
 negative impact on human health and well-being as well as on that of
 many other lifeforms on the planet.

 Who really even KNOWS what this stuff is doing to us??!!

 Thousands of witnesses and victims from all corners of the continent
 have experienced and seen the same activity and results and have
 provided visual documentation as well as chemical analysis of the
 residues in several cases, such as in this case of an on-going aerial
 assault on a region in northern Ontario, Canada.

 Some residents of the area have photographic evidence of USAF KC-135s
 involved in this exact activity. When confronted with the fact of the
 existence of this photographic evidence, the best that Air Force
 flak-catcher, PR guy and front man Lt. Col. Stevie Shapiro could do was
 say the Air Force doesn't have any such craft operating in that area.

 Wow. Oh really?

 Is that supposed to mean that SOMEBODY ELSE is operating the Air
 Forces's KC135s then?

 Or is Shapiro just following orders and reading his cue-cards, whether
 or not he knows the real truth?

 Obviously, the witnesses have not conspired with owners and operators of
 KC-135s to stage an entire, deliberately falsified event. yet this
 apparently is what the Air Force would have us believe. Unless as noted
 they are saying by omission that that USAF KC-135s are spraying the
 substances, but someone else is flying them. Considering all the reports
 of NATO/UN/NWO military contingents operating within our country and of
 pending schemes to put the U.S. military and that of other countries in
 North America under control of such New World Order organizations and
 accompanying highly suspect mandates, such a possibility as the latter
 may in fact be true. Perhaps UN/NATO personnel are in charge of this
 mass spraying of unhealthy, dangerous substances upon the population at large.

 I must note in closing, however, that a number of long-term and reliable
 contacts we know have indicated to us that in the Air Force, in nearly
 ALL branches of the military and in much the federal government as a
 whole (as well as STATE government to some degree) there is a MAJOR
 split or schism running through the entire structure; resulting in at
 LEAST two/three main factions and surely some smaller ones as well.

 Opposing factions are literally in "control" of different groups within
 the branches and agencies of the federal government, and are all making
 strenuous and severe attempts to control the future direction of the country.

 There is a strongly pro-New World Order ("4th Reich") faction,
 definitely the most unpleasant of the lot. Their prime directive is
 pretty much across-the-boards oppression, suppression, enslavement, and
 malevolent manipulation of humanity at large, to the greatest extent
 possible; with an on-going objective of intensifying the grip upon
 humanity at every conceivable turn and by every (newly) available means.
 These guys REALLY suck completely. THESE are the people who were BEHIND
 the creation of The Nazi regime and the Third Reich in Germany; as well
 as (to pick just one) the brutal Bolshevik/red Communist horror which
 engulfed so much of eastern Europe at the same TIME IN HISTORY.

 There is also a strongly "strict constructionist" faction; which
 supports the upholding of certain "inalienable", fundamental human and
 civil right for human beings… up to a point at least (reductions in
 personal freedoms/liberties a distinct possibility if this bunch gains
 control, however). Their prime directive? It could best be described as
 "traditional", moderate "American" values as manifested in a democratic
 republic. The Air Force and the Army are said to be pretty evenly
 divided between these two named factions ; however, the Navy is
 thought to be VERY pro-NWO. (It was put to me that there are at least
 TWO "Air Forces"!)

 There 

[CTRL] Most powerful sound ever produced by humankind

1999-08-16 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

SNETNEWS  Mailing List
 Sonar Press Release


US NAVY PLAN TO ENSONIFY THE WORLD'S OCEANS

WITH LOW FREQUENCY ACTIVE SONAR

FINALLY OUT IN THE PUBLIC ARENA.

LFAS is regarded by environmentalists as quite possibly the loudest amp; most powerful
sound ever produced by humankind
After years of delays, the US Navy has finally released a lengthy draft document and an
Environmental Impact Statement for Low Frequency Active Sonar.

Previous testing of the new sonar equipment was done without review or an EIS. This is 
the
first public disclosure of the overall program. That's if you can read and understand 
it!

The document is a challenging bound publication of over 400 pages of highly technical
information containing two Environmental Impact Statements.

LFA Sonar produces a powerful underwater sound, which has the potential to be audible 
in
every ocean of the world. Overall, the US Navy declares a favorable evaluation of the
environmental impact as afforded through a spoon-fed review conducted by a military 
vendor
called Marine Acoustics, Incorporated.

Environmentalists argue that an independent firm would conduct a truly scientific 
study,
which would look at the overall ecosystem.

There is huge concern regarding related health and environmental issues. Because LFAS 
has
been associated with high level military secrets, there has been little or no 
opportunity
for protesters and those who are interested to view information related to the black 
ops
project.
While The Department of the Navy may argue that their secrecy benefits "National 
Security;"
members of the public have urged greater scrutiny over possible environmental threats

Injuries to animals and humans have been ignored by the USN officials who have neither
listened nor carried out follow up reviews.

It is a function of the draft that it be released for public criticism and review. The 
US
Navy contends in their DEIS that there will not be any "unavoidable harm" caused by LFA
Sonar.

Now it is important that the public seize its chance to inquire further about health 
amp;
marine life concerns, which may be argued in the final report or FEIS. It is expected 
that
some arguments against deployment will be substantiated, in part, by animal fatalities.

Last year the deployment of LFA Sonar drew protests from people in Hawaii who observed 
that
the US Navy had selected Humpback Whales as test Subjects for this new technology.

Additionally, the Navy drew ire because the playback experiments of SURTASS LFA Sonar 
were
conducted in a Marine Sanctuary near feeding areas during the routine migration of the
protected Humpback Whales.

Previous testing was done on Gray Whales off the California Coast when they were 
migrating.
Now another debate ensues with record numbers of Gray Whale strandings having occurred 
this
year along the Pacific Coast.

Environmentalists are quick to point out that LFA Sonar tests and similar ATOC 
transmissions
may represent one of the most dramatic alterations which has been made to the marine
environment and question whether this has resulted in increased stress to the animals'
immune systems.

Giving less than a week's notice, the Navy has scheduled its first public meeting next
Thursday August 19 at San Pedro, California, inviting the public to an Open House on 
the
Surveillance Towed Array Sensor System Low Frequency Active (SURTASS LFA) Sonar Draft
Overseas Environmental Impact Statement/Environmental Impact Statement (DOEIS/EIS).

Thursday, August 19,1999

Cabrillo Marine Aquarium
3720 Stephen White Drive
San Pedro, CA

 Additional information may be found at the Navy's web site and on various sites by
independent citizens and Environmental Organizations. Visit the Navy web site: A
HREF="http://cisteam.home.mindspring.com/index.htm"http://cisteam.home.mindspring.com/index.htm

Because there is a download of the DOE IS/EIS available on this site, the public is 
urged to
visit it.

There is no lack of irony in the fact that it took so long for the Navy to work on the 
EIS;
then it turns out a document hundreds of pages long, giving the public a couple of 
weeks to
review it prior to holding a public meeting. The report is less than two weeks old and 
the
copies were just distributed last week.
Additional meetings are planned for Boston, Massachusetts, Seattle, Washington, and
Honolulu, Hawaii.
Contact: Cheryl Magill for further info at: 12124 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, Saratoga,
California 95070
(408) 486-9520 or
e-mail:HREF="[EMAIL PROTECTED]#[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]

HREF="http://listen.to/lfas"http://listen.to/lfas


-  Posted by: "Cheryl A, Magill" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [CTRL] On Dealing with Idiots

1999-08-16 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

Baffle them with logic. I find it never fails and use big long words, they are too
embarrased to admit they don't know what you are talking about and slink off. Make 
their
brains ache.

Nicky

Robert Tatman wrote:



 Over the somewhat more than two years I've been part of CTRL, we've seen
 numerous attempts by Nazis, Christian Identity types, and assorted other
 racists and Antisemites to force their agendas on the rest of us. We've tried
 every conceivable method of getting rid of them, including the electronic
 equivalent of kicking them out the door, but they keep coming back. We've
 tried reasoning with them, citing the *real* versions of texts they insisted
 on perverting, giving them carefully-researched facts; we've tried yelling at
 them, we've tried ignoring them, we've tried virtually everything under the
 sun. Except for one last approach...



 Bob



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Re: [CTRL] New York, New York

1999-08-16 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Ric I gotta add this!

If you read Scarlet and the Beast - John Daniels reckons London is Babylon.  Where else
could you have a man in the next flat looking like Santa with front tooth missing, 
standing
in his jockeys waiting for his prostitute buddies attempting to crawl up to the 5th 
floor in
their heroin stupor dribbling all over the carpet and moaning loudly. Then you go 
downstairs
to pay your rent to the Philippino landlord in his long pink fingernails, false 
eyelashes,
kisscurls and evening gown. Then you go to work past the clone gays in check shirts and
jeans with the key in their pockets to indicate passive or active. Past the rest of the
transvestites, bovver boys, skinheads, and druggies. Then you get to work at a dept 
store
and there are about 2,000 staff with half men. Most are gay and are at it everywhere -
behind the sofas in the furniture dept. They boast about having 6 different men a 
night.

My boss was a gambler and spent most of the day doing spot the ball and scratch bingo 
and
couldn't understand how us New Zealanders could be happy with no culture. The staff 
were
thieves and spent so much time stealing, the whole place nearly went broke. One boss 
was
caught trying to take home a case of champagne. The window dressers stole the stuff 
they had
used in the windows.

The churches are locked because of thieves. Except the Catholic ones where some people
prayed to statues. Spiritualist churches called up the dead for lonely souls to get a
message of hope. There were pagans and witches everywhere. There were punks with 
nothing to
do, except put safety pins in their noses. Jobless and homeless people shivering and 
hungry.
Poor lonely old people with no money trying to buy one tomato at the supermarket, 
unable to
pay for the heater..They went to the afternoon movies to keep warm and sat through 
excessive
violence and swearing. After 7 years hard labour in 'Babylon' I am now probably sane 
again.

When you are tired of London you are tired of life -the ad said.
Nicky





Ric Carter wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my wonderful accommodations whilst I
 inhabited The Heart Of The Capitalist World.   The X-flat [condemned
 tenament] on E.11th St. between B  C Aves, with regular shootings/
 knifings/etc.  The unventilated closet over Cooper Square.  The old
 residential hotel on Broadway near Bleeker, which collapsed all by
 itself a few years later.  Interesting people in that hotel.  The
 holocaust survivor who screamed in his nightmares every night.  The
 bikeless bikers who robbed graves to sell skulls to rich Satanists.
 The guy who suicided in his tub two floors above me and left the
 water running; it was only when the the room below his filled up
 and started dripping into mine that anyone noticed anything was
 amiss.  Then there were those great Mob guys who ran the trash-
 hauling company I did day-labor at, for minimum wage.  Nice.



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[CTRL] [Fwd: [Fwd: IUFO: Icke interview, Pt. 2]]

1999-08-16 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Ashley Rye wrote:
 
  -  IUFO  Mailing List
 
 And, again  and again,  when you  get into  the genealogy, my
 goodness me, that takes some time and sweat, you hit the same
 genetic lines  when you're looking at  people in positions of
 power. It  seems  to me  that these  lower fourth-dimensional
 entities have actually  been working through what we call the
 Illuminati to  actually  control the  planet. And,  while all
 this  was  unfolding, I  started  getting  some  very bizarre
 stories told to me.
 
 Martin: I bet.
 
 Icke: And the thing about my life, Rick, in the last 10 years
 or so, consciously  walking this journey-I now realize that I
 was unconsciously doing it  all of my life-is that suddenly a
 subject  heading  will  come  into  my  life,  and once  it's
 appeared,  I'm meeting  people  literally from  all  over the
 world, because  I've  been in  21 countries  in the  last two
 years now,  and been back  to quite a  few of  them, so I can
 start to see,  as a result of  traveling, these common themes
 that are coming up all over the world.
 
 And one  theme that came  up last year, May  '98, it had been
 around a  little bit but  I put it on  the back burner. There
 wasn't enough evidence to talk about it, really. And that was
 that  people  had seen  people  in  positions  of  power, not
 exclusively so, but  overwhelmingly so, turn into a reptilian
 form and then go back to  human. And, in a period of 15 days,
 in May 1998,  I met 12 separate  people in different parts of
 America   from  different   walks  of   life   and  different
 backgrounds, in  my travels,  who told  me the  same story. I
 thought, "What in the hell is going on here?!"
 
 When I  came back to  England, the sequence  continued. I was
 asked by a couple of people, who were members of the House of
 Lords, in  London, to  go and  talk to  them at  the House of
 Lords about  the manipulation,  which they  also realized was
 going on
 --
 
 Transfer interrupted!
 
 e, and there was a lady at the meeting who kept saying some
 very interesting things about Diana, you know, the Princess
 of Wales. And, after the meeting, I said, "Look, hey, we
 gotta talk."
 
 She said, "We have." And we went off and chatted.
 
 I said, "Where did you get this information about Diana?"
 
 She said, "My best friend was her closest confidant on things
 she couldn't talk about to anyone else for nine years." Now,
 this lady has actually appeared in the press from
 time-to-time as being a close friend of Diana. Anyway, she
 said, "I think this lady might talk to you. She's never
 talked to anyone else."
 
 So, I went to see her and her name was Christine Fitzgerald.
 She starts telling me about the connection, all of the
 treatment of Diana by the Windsors, which was utterly,
 utterly outrageous. I haven't talked to this lady Christine
 Fitzgerald about these bizarre stories I'm being told by
 people around the world. Then, as the conversation unfolded,
 she said, "Oh, do you know what Diana's nickname for the
 Windsors was?"
 
 I said, "No, go on."
 
 She said, "The lizards or the reptiles." And she said, "She
 used to say, in all seriousness, 'They are NOT human!'"
 Christine Fitzgerald went on to tell me: "You know, the
 Windsors are a reptilian line, they're not human." And that
 "the British Royal Family, and its inter-linking bloodlines,
 are actually reptilian, they come from a reptilian
 extraterrestrial race."
 
 And I'm thinking, "Bloody hell, not another one!"
 
 And I came back here-about an hour and a half from London-my
 home is in England. I knew of a guy called Ted Heath, who was
 Prime Minister of Britain from '70-'74, and I knew that he
 was involved in some serious horrendous things, like
 sacrificing children, and all this stuff, because of people
 who had seen it. And, a lady I knew, who had contacted me,
 wanted to tell me about her experiences with Ted Heath, so I
 went to see her, not to talk about shape-shifting reptilians,
 but to talk about Ted Heath and satanic ritual involving the
 elite of Britain.
 
 And, again, but just as a quick incidental-when you follow
 these bloodlines from the ancient world to the present day,
 this satanic ritual, human sacrifice and blood ritual, even
 using the same deities in the rituals, is a 

Re: [CTRL] On Dealing with Idiots

1999-08-17 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

I mean words like these therapists use like experiential, etc

Here's something to make your brain ache.

eg Religious nut reckoning s/he is the only one that's right.I'm going
to heaven - you hell.

Ans: We have evolved with passionate loyalties to large units, which
ensure continuity and consolation for personal mortality. The world
demands speciation that can adapt to extremes of heat and cold, varying
gravity and pressure, in all the Sun-space that holds vast resources.

That should ensure a speedy exit. lol
Nicky


Tenorlove wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Takes one to know one. snort
 "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" is the correct spelling. Idiot
 savant that I am at times, I learned to spell it as a very young child.

 Tenorlove

 --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Nicky Are You Talking About:
  Supercalifragilisticexpealexdocious?
 
 _

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Plattsburgh AFB Named Major Mind-control Center]

1999-08-18 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Plattsburgh AFB Named Major Mind-control Center
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:49:29 +
From: Bob Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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8.17.99
Plattsburgh AFB Named Major Mind-control Center
Air Force DEEPLY Involved in Mind Control Projects--
According to Eric Harris's AF Programmer AND Harris Himself


© 1999 John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.
(Rights of UNALTERED reproduction/distribution waived.)


The Air Force--THAT is, those divisions of what USED to be the U.S. Air
Force now under control of New World Order global governance masters,
seems to have trouble keeping itself out of NewsHawk's press releases
lately.

We just issued a heads-up to our readers yesterday concerning the fact
that KC-135s and other aircraft KNOWN to belong (at LEAST on paper!) to
OUR U.S. Air Force are currently engaged in an extremely widespread
campaign of continual, all-out, virtually round-the-clock bombardment of
the people of North America (not ONLY U.S. residents) with chemical and
biological materials known to be injurious to human health--and almost
certainly to the health of most indigenous life forms on our planet
(cloned reptoid-zomboid-android-Nazoid test-tube vermin such as those
overrunning our entire governmental structure are obviously not affected
by this most unwelcome crud being showered down on us daily.)

We have also made note of the extremely interesting fact that
mind-controlled "Manchurian Candidate" perpetrators of at LEAST four of
the recent mass shooting nightmares in our country had/have SIGNIFICANT
and HARD ties to the Air Force.

In just the past two days, these articles of ours have stimulated
additional responses from others with knowledge and/or direct experience
which further confirms the high degree of involvement on the part of
covert Air Force intelligence operatives at specific Air Force bases in
the "engineering", programming, indoctrination and training of those
unfortunate subjects; picked to become mind-controlled mass killers.

A wide variety of tactics and techniques are used in these utterly
abusive and demonic programs, which are almost completely derived from
the infamous MK-Ultra project, the Montauk Project and related
intelligence agency mind-control projects. The "genealogy" of all these
evil, grotesque activities leads DIRECTLY back to the death and torture
slave camps of the Third Reich by way of the Nazi-infested CIA, NSA, DIA
and other U.S. intelligence groups. This is absolute, unqualified FACT.
Check the records. These agencies funneled HORDES of high-level Nazi
Party members, intelligence and military officers, "scientists" (yea
right!) and vast quantities of Nazi technology information databases
into the most fundamental levels of OUR United States government: after,
DURING and even BEFORE WW2!

Two of these recent communications to NewsHawk in fact pinpoint a
particular Air Force base which has ALREADY been heavily "outed" by us
in our articles ("The Rocky Mountain Horror Show" and "Putting the
Columbine Puzzle Together") on the Columbine High School massacre on
April 20. This corroborates information from other widely divergent
sources regarding bizarre covert activities at this location.

The location we refer to is PLATTSBURGH AIR FORCE BASE in northeastern
New York State, roughly 80 miles south of the Canadian border. Beneath
the Plattsburgh base is a VAST, 18-level deep subterranean facility.

Eric Harris, whose father has been linked to covert AF intelligence
projects going back nearly 20 years, lived with his family at
Plattsburgh AFB for over 4 years right before moving to Littleton.

We have previously received confirmation on the Plattsburgh base as
(being) a location for severe, horrendous, outrageous and scientifically
very advanced mind/consciousness-manipulation technologies and projects
from a wide variety of sources: from other victims and from those who
were in the employ of project operators.

Plattsburgh AFB was by some reports linked in the 1960s the horrendous
known Nazi-lover Ewen Cameron, president of the American Psychiatric
Association, The Canadian Psychiatric Association AND the World
Psychiatric Association, and Cameron's massive abuses in the
CIA-contracted MK-Ultra (drug and neuro-electrically-based) mind-control
project just over the border in Montreal. Firsthand accounts indicate
that this legacy continued at Plattsburgh through the 1970s and beyond
to present times with electromagnetic/radio-frequency  and drug-based
mind control activities tied to some of the experimentation at Montauk.

As noted in earlier reports this Air force installation SUPPOSEDLY
"officially" closed in 1994.

However, thoroughly credible testimony from many sources provides
clear proof the base remains quite active years after it’s "official"
closure. Local residents and other firsthand eyewitnesses report that
the base, though somewhat 

[CTRL] IUFO: Icke interview, Pt. 4

1999-08-18 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

-
 Ashley Rye wrote:
 
  -  IUFO  Mailing List
 
 What I'm beginning to more and more understand is that this
 lower fourth-dimensional level that this group operates from,
 this "Illuminati consciousness"-we'll put it like that-is the
 frequency range that vibrates to the emotions of fear and the
 off-shoots of fear, like guilt, resentment, aggression, all
 these things. And, therefore, the more that events can be
 created on the Earth which generate-my goodness me, they do
 by the minute-the emotions of fear, guilt, resentment, etc.,
 within the human form, we are actually turned into generators
 of energy for that lower fourth-dimensional frequency range,
 if you follow me. Because every time we feel emotion, the
 emotion of fear, our thought-emotional patterns are
 resonating energy around us and within us to that frequency
 of fear, which appears to relate very strongly to this lower
 fourth-dimensional level.
 
 Now, where experiments have been done-I think the Institute
 of HeartMath in America has done a lot of this; it's got an
 Internet site, it's very interesting-they've done experiments
 measuring the frequency of various emotions, and they've
 shown that the frequency of fear is very low, slow. And when
 we're feeling fear, it is actually reasonating our energy
 very slowly. When we feel the emotion of what we call love,
 in it's truest sense, that is a very fast frequency which
 actually reasonates our energy very quickly. It's like waves
 going through and resonating the energy, which is just
 neutral. I mean, thought reasonates the energy. Do you want
 it fast? Do you want it slow? What were you thinking? What
 were you feeling?
 
 So the more-this is vital to understanding this on a higher
 level, I would suggest-the more that humanity lives it's life
 in fear and the off-shoot emotions that come from fear, the
 slower the vibrational reasonance of consciousness working
 directly through the physical form. If the highest expression
 of ourselves, beyond this lower fourth-dimensional "cess-pit"
 vibration, as I call it, is operating at a higher wavelength
 than fear, and ultimately at the wavelength of love, what I
 would suggest is the highest wavelength of all-just like
 Radio America cannot sync with Radio Philadelphia because
 they are on different wavelengths-the wavelength of fear
 cannot sync with the higher wavelengths of love and other
 states of being.
 
 So, in essence, as long as humanity can-in physical
 embodiment, that level of our consciousness-be kept and
 immersed in the emotion of fear, we actually vibrationally
 disconnect and can do nothing else, can do nothing other than
 disconnect from the highest expressions of who we are. We
 can't do anything other than that.
 
 So, coming to the question, Rick, and it's a very important
 one, "How do we get out of here?" and "Where are the good
 guys?"-I keep hearing, "Where are the people coming to help
 us?"
 
 Well, those of an emotional-mental state of being that wish
 to set-not in embodiment, I mean other-dimensional beings-who
 are of an intent to set the planet free, they are of a level
 of vibrational reasonance, as a result of that state of
 being, in which they cannot connect with consciousness that
 is in a state of fear. It simply cannot happen because there
 is a vibrational gap between the two. This is the vital point
 I would suggest, anyway.
 
 It's not that those of higher-dimensional consciousness who
 wish to set us free have to connect with us; it's that we, in
 fear, have need to connect with them. And the only way of
 doing that is through breaking out of fear; it's breaking out
 of the three-dimensional illusion, the movie screen, the
 holographic kind of virtual reality game that we're looking
 at when we open our eyes, and getting into the wavelength of
 love, in it's true sense.
 
 Because when we start to vibrate as a result of that state of
 being, to the energy of love, and our intent is freedom for
 all, not just ourselves, freedom in its true sense-freedom
 for you to say what I don't agree with, freedom for you to
 live your life-style in a way that I wouldn't live mine-that
 level of true freedom, that I will stand for your freedom to
 say something that I disagree with as much as I'll stand for
 mine to say what I think-when you hit that level, then your
 state of being 

[CTRL] IUFO: Icke interview, Pt. 5

1999-08-18 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

 Ashley Rye wrote:
 
  -  IUFO  Mailing List
 
 We're going to see Stage Two. I would say to people: watch
 the Chinese hierarchy very carefully because people who I
 trust, indeed, people who have been working on the inside for
 many years, tell me again and again, there's a China card
 waiting to be played as part of the process of creating a
 conflict big enough to turn, in one conflict, NATO into a
 world army to stop any more conflicts of this kind.
 
 When you have the millennium mentality building up of "Come
 on, we've come to the end of a millennium. Look at the
 horrors of this millennium; let's start again", you have a
 global mentality that is very open to change, and there's
 nothing wrong with that except that if you control the forces
 of communication to the global mass-mind, you can control and
 manipulate what is perceived to be positive change, when
 actually it is only change that relates to the agenda that
 you want to introduce.
 
 I actually wrote in The Biggest Secret about keeping an eye
 on China and the China card, and the next thing I know
 they've bombed the Chinese Embassy. Not only that, I think it
 was Time magazine, about three weeks ago or so, did a virtual
 whole edition demonizing China as the new monster and danger
 to the world. So I think we're going to see something like
 that unfold, and it will all be part of this recurring daily
 technique which happens in the local area, in the states, in
 the country, and in the world, of creating problems and
 offering the solutions to the problems.
 
 It is the key technique. If people would only get street-wise
 to this, they would start to see presidential announcements
 and terrorist bombs and wars in a very, very different light.
 
 I would just end the answer by saying this: The key question
 to ask in this situation, I would suggest, is: Who benefits?
 Who benefits from this Oklahoma City bombing? Who benefits
 from the wars? And who benefits from me believing the version
 of these events that I'm being asked to accept? And, again
 and again, when you ask that question of who benefits, the
 answer is, invariably, anyone who wants to further central
 power.
 
 Martin: What is "The Agenda" that you refer to in your new
 book?
 
 Icke: When you're getting into the lower fourth dimension and
 this level of it, I'm still trying to understand more and
 more clearly what the overall agenda is. It seems that,
 somehow, this lower fourth-dimensional consciousness,
 entities, whatever you want to call them, have actually
 caught themselves in a prison. They're in the lower fourth
 dimension because they are resonating to that frequency
 because of their state of being. They're into control,
 they're into manipulation of fear, and anyone who manipulates
 fear is, themselves, entrapped in fear. And as a result of
 that, they cannot get out of that frequency range by going
 upwards, because you can only do that by changing your mental
 and emotional state which leads to your vibrational frequency
 increasing, which allows you to gravitate to higher levels.
 
 It could well be-and I'm certainly being led in this
 direction at the moment-that they are trying to get out of
 that lower fourth dimension, or expand out of it, by coming
 into the third dimension and working and controlling three
 dimensionally. Certainly, even if you only take a
 three-dimensional level, the agenda is for these bloodlines,
 which compared-this is the point, Rick-compared with the
 global population, are not large in number. They've expanded
 out of the Near and Middle East, particularly, but other
 places, too. And by this manipulation of always being at the
 top of the pyramids-the pyramids of banking, the pyramids of
 politics, the pyramids of business, the pyramids of medicine,
 and all this stuff-they have created a situation in which
 they sit atop these compartmentalized pyramids and get the
 vast majority of humanity to advance their agenda without
 most of them even realizing there is an agenda being
 advanced.
 
 This is the only way it could be done. This is why divide and
 rule is vital.
 
 This is why the human herd, which, unfortunately, we've
 allowed ourselves to become, actually polices itself by
 making it a crime to be different. Anyone who expresses a
 different view, anyone who expresses a different lifestyle,
 

[CTRL] Icke interview, Pt. 6

1999-08-18 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Ashley Rye wrote:
 
  -  IUFO  Mailing List
 
 And individualism, while they talk about the necessity for
 it, the desire for it, is constantly crushed by the belief
 system of the group. It's interesting, you know, when I talk
 about this in my talks, everywhere I go in the world I get
 applause from the audience. Because I think people are
 starting to get sick of the New-Age movement, which is
 actually so often diverting us from and suppressing us from
 the real truth of metaphysics. And the real truth is that WE,
 as individuals, are in control of our destiny, and not
 external forces being in control.
 
 And so, I think it's very important, in the years that we are
 in now, that we start to take our individual sovereignty back
 and start to realize that we have the right to decide our
 truth and live our truth, and not have another truth imposed
 upon us, whether it's the New-Age movement, Christianity,
 Hinduism, Atheism, or whatever it is, because the whole basis
 of the control is getting individuality subordinated to the
 group, getting individuality suppressed by the majority,
 suppressed by the herd mentality.
 
 There are two ways of solving the problem. We can find the
 solution to it, which is actually not the best way, because
 for me the best way of solving a problem is removing the
 cause of it and then it goes away. The cause of the few
 controlling the planet is people giving their power away and
 not thinking for themselves and just following the one in
 front without question. And, insisting-and this is the key
 thing, stage two-insisting that others do the same, because
 once that happens, you create a situation in which whoever
 sets the norms in the world, whether considered sane or
 insane, possible or impossible, moral or immoral, whoever
 sets those norms runs the world.
 
 This happens because of the overwhelming, vast majority of
 humanity who have given their power away and given their
 thinking processes and individuality away, and will live
 their lives in accordance with those dictated norms because
 they're not thinking or questioning them.
 
 Now, that's fine, that's a choice-I don't have a problem with
 that. The key thing, as I say, the people who succumb to
 those norms, they insist that those who don't want to do so
 should also succumb to those norms. And, at that point, when
 you have the herd policing itself, and making life unpleasant
 for those who wish to detach from it, at that point you have
 the basis, and only at that point, you have the basis on
 which the few who set the norms can run the world, because
 you get humanity becoming not just the sheep, but also the
 sheep-dog, not just the prisoner, but also the prison guards.
 And only in that way, through thousands of years to the
 present minute, has it been possible for a few to control the
 world.
 
 So, for me, three things would change this and would
 dramatically transform the world we live in for the better,
 because of all that would come from this. Those are:
 
 One: as individuals, we step out of the fear of what other
 people think of us because that is the prison that most
 people live in. And once you're in the fear of what someone
 else thinks, you are not living YOUR life in YOUR truth; you
 are living someone else's version of what they think you
 should be. In other words, you're in the herd now. If we step
 out of the fear of what other people think, as individuals,
 and say, to use the title of one of my books, I Am Me, I Am
 Free, and if you don't like it, that's fine-you have a right
 not to like it-but this is me! At that point we cease to be a
 sheep. And if enough of us do it, we cease to be a herd of
 sheep.
 
 Second: we allow everyone else to express their uniqueness,
 even though it differs from ours. You know, "What a crime;
 call the police; my goodness me, this person thinks different
 than me!" Once we do that, we cease to be a sheep dog for the
 rest of the herd. Just those two things alone, and this whole
 edifice of imposed power starts to crumble because the very
 basis of it is crumbling.
 
 And third: the balance point, no one seeks to impose what
 they believe on anyone else, so all are respecting everyone's
 free will, so that my belief is not imposed on anyone else.
 That's the reason why whatever anyone says about me or says
 about what I write or 

[CTRL] Australia May Face Nuclear Threat From India]

1999-08-19 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Australia May Face Nuclear Threat From India
   Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:27:02 +0930
   From: Straykat [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[Image]   Thursday, August 19, 1999

 http://www.theage.com.au/daily/990819/news/news23.html

Australia may face nuclear threat

   By CHRISTOPHER KREMMER
   NEW DELHI, WEDNESDAY

   Australia could theoretically be dragged into a nuclear
   conflict involving India and the United States under
   India's draft nuclear policy released yesterday.

   The doctrine of ``retaliation only'' released by the
Hindu
   nationalist government promises that India would not be
   the first to use nuclear weapons against states that do
not
   possess such weapons. However, it does not offer such a
   pledge to countries which do have nuclear weapons or to
   nations allied to nuclear powers.

   ``India will not resort to the use or threat of use of
   nuclear weapons against states which do not possess
   nuclear weapons, or are not aligned with nuclear
   weapons powers,'' it says.

   Australia, Japan, South Korea, Germany and most
   member states of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation
   - all of which have defence treaty obligations with the
US
   - would by implication be potential Indian targets in any

   nuclear exchange with the US. The document's release
   appears to be an attempt to revive the nuclear issue
   before Indians begin voting in national elections on 5
   September.

   The government - which conducted five nuclear blasts
   last year and declared India a nuclear weapons state -
   believes the issue is a vote winner.

   However, India's national security adviser, Mr Brajesh
   Mishra, said it was hoped the doctrine's release would
   encourage a debate on the issues.

   ``This is a draft ... it will have to wait for a new
   government.''

   A victory at the polls could be used as a green light for

   the doctrine, which analysts said envisaged a much more
   ambitious nuclear arsenal than the credible, minimum
   deterrent the government had previously said it required.

   The doctrine calls for ``sufficient, survivable and
   operationally prepared nuclear forces'' on aircraft,
mobile
   land-based missiles and at sea.

   India's forces and their command and control system
   should be organised for ``very high survivability against

   surprise attacks and for rapid punitive response''. The
   bombs would be under the control of the prime minister
   or his successor.

   An undeclared border war between India and Pakistan in
   Kashmir, and last week's shooting down of a Pakistani
   maritime surveillance plane by India, have heightened
   concerns about the subcontinent as a nuclear flashpoint.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: The Conspiracy Was Strong]

1999-08-21 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: The Conspiracy Was Strong
   Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:03:50 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Watch Unto Prayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: The WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto Prayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: August 20, 1999
   THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG

   by

   Barbara Aho

   And the conspiracy was strong; for the
   people increased continually with Absalom.
   II Sam15:12a

"Worrying Connections" was the subject of an article written by Andrew
Gould to expose the improper connections between certain Hebrew Roots
and Revival ministries. Mr. Gould's article and other anti-HRM material
were removed some time ago from the websites of various Discernment
ministries subsequent to a threat of litigation from Messengers of
Messiah Ministries. Watch Unto Prayer was also named in this threat;
however it was never our intention to issue a retraction nor to withdraw
our material from the Internet, as demanded by Peter Michas.

That these Discernment ministries would so easily capitulate and then
berate our attempt to expose this major heretical cult is unfortunate,
but not altogether surprising. As I have interacted with these
ministries, I have pondered many "worrying connections" within their own
ranks. Having confronted those whom I knew personally, but to no avail,
I believe that the Christians who follow them have a right to the
following information.

   "And we beseech you brethren, to know them
which labour among you..." (I Th. 5:12)

   THE DISCERNMENT CONFERENCE

In June of 1997, I attended a Discernment Conference in East Lansing,
Michigan, which was organized by Jewel van der Merwe of Discernment
Ministries and Sarah Leslie of the Christian Conscience. The speakers at
this conference included Dean Gotcher, Nancy Flint, Russ Bellant, Berit
Kjos, Cynthia Weatherly, Sarah Leslie and Jewel van der Merwe. Ed
Tarkowski had been scheduled as a speaker but was unable to attend. Gary
Kah, author of "En Route to Global Occupation" and other books on the
New World Order, gave an informal talk after the conference.

Upon my return from East Lansing, I wrote and circulated a report titled
"The Unitarian Creed." Being at a loss to explain why this experience
occurred at a Discernment Conference, I simply described my encounter
with a Unitarian minister who introduced himself and wished to persuade
me to the Unitarian doctrines that the Holy Spirit is an emanation
rather than a person and that Jesus was a human son of God in the same
way believers are sons of God.

Sir Anthony F. Buzzard also explained that he had left the formerly
Unitarian Worldwide Church of God after that denomination embraced
orthodox doctrine in 1994 and affiliated with the Church of God General
Conference which maintains the Unitarian doctrine. The CGGC headquarters
and college, Atlanta Bible College, where Sir Anthony is on staff, are
located in Morrow, GA, a suburb of Atlanta.

Sir Anthony had given me his card and contacted me via e-mail soon after
the conference, wishing to discuss further reasons why the New Testament
gives no clear statement of Jesus' divinity or of the person of the Holy
Spirit. When I looked up the web page of Anthony Buzzard's Restoration
Fellowship, I was astonished to discover that this British gentleman had
been nominated in 1996 for the Templeton Prize. This $1,000,000 "Prize
for Progress in Religion" is given annually by New Age financier John
Templeton at the World Parliament of Religions, which has included among
the distinguished recipients Billy Graham, Bill Bright, Chuck Colson,
Mother Teresa, Cardinal Suenens and various Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim
leaders. This honor is advertised in Anthony Buzzard's Profile.

I might have reasoned that Sir Anthony Buzzard was simply using the
Discernment Ministries as a Christian cover for his globalist agenda,
however this conference was "By Invitation Only" and no one could have
been present without the approval of the organizers. I therefore spoke
to Sarah Leslie thinking that there must have been some mistake in the
process of selecting conferees. She replied that Jewel van der Merwe had
invited him. When I expressed my alarm to Jewel that someone with
Anthony's credentials had been invited to a Discernment Conference, she
thanked me for being nice to him and explained that he is "confused."
Still disturbed about this experience one year later, I wrote to Sarah
via e-mail and received the following reply:

 From: Lynn D. Leslie
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 11:38 AM
 To: Timothy Aho
 Subject: Re: More Thoughts...

 I do not know Anthony Buzzard other than having been
 introduced to him via Jewel. At that time I firmly cautioned
 her that this man was an apostate and to 

[CTRL] [Fwd: The Conspiracy Was Strong] part 2

1999-08-21 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: The Conspiracy Was Strong
   Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:03:50 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Watch Unto Prayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: The WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto Prayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: August 20, 1999
THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG Part 2

   by

   Barbara Aho

   And the conspiracy was strong; for the
   people increased continually with Absalom.
   II Sam15:12a

Patrick Blackett

Professor Patrick Blackett, an ex-naval officer and nuclear physicist,
had received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1948. In 1932, Blackett identified
the electron with a positive charge, a discovery which built upon the
former breakthroughs in physics, splitting of the atom and discovery of
the neutron. These three discoveries laid the foundation for the
development of nuclear weapons. In 1939, Blackett initiated the
technique of Operational Research, which was discussed at length in
Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope as Blackett's application of a
British philosophical doctrine called "rationalization" to the
unpleasant realities of war. The concept of "rationalization" had
appeared at the end of the 19th Century, at the same time the
Rhodes-Milner secret eugenics society was formed.

 As in so many other innovations, the introduction of
 rationalization into war was begun by the British and then
 taken over on an enormous scale, by the Americans. Its origin
 is usually attributed to the efforts of Professor P. M. S.
 Blackett (Nobel Prize 1948) to apply radar to antiaircraft
 guns. From there Blackett took the technique into
 antisubmarine defense whence it spread, under the name
 'Operational Research' into many aspects of the War effort. In
 its original form, the Anti-Aircraft Command Research Group,
 known as "Blackett's Circus,"...was a mixed-team approach to
 operational problems, emphasizing an objective, analytical,
 and quantitative method. As Blackett wrote in 1941, "The
 scientist can encourage numerical thinking on operational
 matters, and so can help to avoid running the war on gusts of
 emotion.". . .

 Rationalization of behavior, as represented in Operations
 Research, and the application of science to new weapons, as
 practiced by the English-speaking countries, were in sharp
 contrast with the methods of waging war used by the Tripartite
 aggressors. Hitler fought the war by basing his hopes on
 inspiration (his own) and will power (usually, refusal to
 retreat an inch); Mussolini tried to fight his war on rhetoric
 and slogans; the Japanese tried to gain victory by
 self-sacrifice and willingness to die. All three irrational
 methods were obsolete as compared with the Anglo-American
 method of rationalization and science.

 First news of the success of Operations Research in Britain
 was brought to the United States by President Conant in 1940
 and was formally introduced by Vannevar Bush [Freemason, BA],
 as chairman of the New Weapons Committee of the Joint Chiefs
 of Staff, in 1942." (pp. 838, 842)

  * * *

To say that Sir Anthony Wass Buzzard had connections in high places
would be an enormous understatement. Sir Anthony W. Buzzard was also a
knight in Her Majesty, the Queen of England's empire. This distinction
is also indicated by the title of "Sir" which precedes Anthony F.
Buzzard, whose honors additionally include nomination for the Templeton
Prize for Progress in Religion in 1996. Sir John Marks Templeton, the
founder of the Prize, won a Rhodes scholarship to Oxford University and
was also knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1987 for his philanthropic
efforts, which included his endowment of Templeton College, Oxford. On
the staff of the Templeton Foundation are a high percentage of Oxford
University graduates, including Executive Director and Senior Vice
President Dr. Charles L. Harper, Jr.

   THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD

Due to his involvement with the Discernment Ministries, which purport to
expose the New World Order, Sir Anthony F. Buzzard seemed to warrant
further investigation. A logical place to begin was the Worldwide Church
of God in which he formerly held membership and employment for some
time. The Worldwide Church of God was founded by Herbert W. Armstrong in
1934 as "The World Tomorrow" radio program with a magazine called The
Plain Truth. The WCG was led by Herbert Armstrong and his son, Garner
Ted Armstrong, prior to its transformation into an Evangelical
denomination after highly publicized exposure of criminal and immoral
activities.

Sir Anthony had informed me that he separated from the WCG when the
denomination embraced orthodox doctrine and 

[CTRL] Y2K

1999-08-22 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: [apfn] Y2K
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:49:25 -0700
From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A good friend sent this to me, from Australia.  This is the note he had
with it:
This letter was written by a close friend who is a computer professional

and has bought in the bush. He wrote to his wife who together with their
two
children has deserted him.

I did a post some time ago about how Y2K was planned by the
goverenment.  If you have not read that Post, I suggest you do so (Post
15).  For those who are so sure of suppressing the New World Order with
your hunting rifles, think first about food.  There is none in the US.
Think about that, and what it means for the control of people.  David G.

The computer Year 2000 (Y2K) problem has given the New World Order
planners a perfect opportunity to speed-up the chaos needed to bring the
whole world into a new kind of slavery.

The world's mass media continues its masterful job of misinformation,
and trivialising the whole issue.
People think they already understand the problem, after all, it has been
in the news for more than a year now. But it isn't that simple. In fact
it is anything but simple...

Most journalists do not comprehend the extent of the problem, and those
that do rarely publish serious stories. Their organisations may be
frightened of being blamed for causing panic, rioting and/or bank runs,
or some of their bosses may be high up enough to be part of the whole
plan.

The world's computers have not been (and never will be) 100 percent
fixed, and 99 percent is not enough. Most small businesses and many
countries have not even begun to work on the problem.
Some countries are hoping it will all just go away. And in the countries
like Australia that are actually trying to fix the problem, as many as
50 percent of small businesses are simply ignoring Y2K. Yet small
business is our major employer.

Imagine Australia if even a quarter of our employers go out of business
next year! I personally expect more and more of these system failures to
create problems as the date approaches 2000. Please keep your mind open
to the possibilities, so you can get out of the city before public
panic, or a government-declared state of emergency, perhaps martial law,
makes such movement impossible. And have yourselves a relatively safe
place to head for... somewhere with friends or relatives on the land
would be ideal.

"Millennium Hysteria" is a term generated by the Spin Doctors
(government agents of PR dis-information). They use the mainstream media
and some respectable "experts" to ridicule anyone with real concerns
about a financial crash, where the world is headed, global conflict, Y2k
etc, as nut cases. They point out that there was hysteria when the dates
rolled over to the year 1900 or the year 1000. Thus reassured, "Joe
Public" smiles at this and settles back in his settee to drink another
tinny and watch the cable TV. There is no need for him to prepare then.
All is alright in the world. ZZzzz, Zzzz, z.

The computers will crash in ever increasing numbers as the months roll
by. There will be few, if any, announcements of these failures. But
there will be increasing numbers of companies making major billing
mistakes and having payroll problems. Then you will hear about (or be
affected by) more power failures, water supply problems, telephone and
cellular phone problems, financial and banking problems. Don't you be
asleep too. Tick them off as they happen. Within the last week or so (as
of 4/8/1999), there was a massive power failure in Taiwan with 23
million people deprived of power for 24 hours. Factories lost their
production runs and there was a large chemical factory fire as a result.
The loss was many millions of dollars. This was "ignored" by the
mainstream media and only reported via the Internet.

The tragic train crash in India recently may have been a Y2K problem.
ABC Television reported in their late news that railway controllers had
experienced a "system failure" where they were unable to control the
track switches, no matter what they tried. The Indian railway staff
watched in horror as the trains converged, then the men fled in terror
believing they would be blamed for the carnage. They were right.

The Y2K date rollover problem is not just a "silly mistake" made years
ago by programmers saving space on 80-column punch cards. Much of it is
because the US government set the MMDDYY date standard 35 years ago (we
use DDMMYY in Australia), and IBM adhered to it on their System 360
mainframes to get the government contracts. The rest of the world
followed with 2-digit years, and although 4-digit dates were later
recommended, 

[CTRL] Yugoslavia's still bleeding

1999-08-22 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

  Yugoslavia's still bleeding by John Doggett

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_doggett/19990820_xcjdo_yugoslavia.shtml

  Does anyone remember when NATO stopped bombing
  Yugoslavia? Does anyone remember NATO's bold claims
about
  what its massive, unprovoked attack on Yugoslavia had
  accomplished? Does anyone remember that Clinton's "wag
the
  dog" war in Yugoslavia started just as the Chinese
spying
  scandal was breaking? Does anyone remember that the
war
  ended soon after we bombed the Chinese embassy in
Belgrade
  and sent the Chinese Communist politicians home? Does
  anyone care about what is happening in Yugoslavia
today?

  Well, I care, and I'm deeply saddened that the press
is ignoring
  NATO's "bright shining lie." I'm offended by the
failure of the
  press to pay as much attention to the murder of
Kosovar Serbs
  as they did to the NATO orchestrated mayhem against
  Kosovar Albanians. Apparently the press has bought
NATO's
  lie that a Serbian life is not worth respecting.

  NATO started killing Serbs and Kosovar Albanians to
stop
  Serbs and Kosovar Albanians from killing each other.
NATO
  said that it couldn't stand by and let the "evil"
Serbs execute
  Kosovar Albanians in their homes, in their fields and
in their
  cities. NATO said that it had to destroy Serbia to
prevent the
  Milosevic regime from using ethnic cleansing to rid
Kosovo of
  its Albanian citizens. However, now that some Kosovar
  Albanians are doing all of the above to the Kosovar
Serbs,
  NATO is doing nothing to stop it.

  What are the facts? Some Kosovar Albanians have
executed
  hundreds of Kosovar Serbs in their cities, towns and
villages
  since NATO occupied Kosovo. Some Kosovar Albanians
have
  killed Kosovar Serbs with mortar attacks right under
the nose
  of NATO troops, but NATO says it can't find the
responsible
  parties.

  Some Kosovar Albanians executed 14 Kosovar Serbian
farmers
  in their fields, and all that NATO could do was try to
provide
  security for their funerals. Some Kosovar Albanians
have
  desecrated and destroyed scores of Kosovar Serbian
churches,
  but NATO can't protect these houses of worship either.
They
  have murdered Kosovar Serbian priests and they have
raped
  nuns, but NATO claims it is powerless to prevent these
crimes
  against humanity.

  This is the same NATO that said its bombs, dropped
from
  15,000 ft., could prevent equally sad atrocities
against Kosovar
  Albanians just a few months ago.

  Since NATO became the warlord of Kosovo, some Kosovar
  Albanians have looted and burned thousands of Kosovar
  Serbian homes, offices, factories, stores and farms.
Since
  NATO sent in troops to "guarantee" the safety of the
Kosovar
  Albanians, hundreds of thousands of Kosovar Serbs have
  been ethnically cleansed from their homes. All NATO
has done
  is to make sure that the convoys of Kosovar Serbs
fleeing their
  ancestral home get safe passage out of Kosovo.

  Is this the result that anyone wanted at the end of
NATO's
  dirty little war? Is the rape of Kosovo worth the
billions of
  dollars, thousands of innocent deaths, and 12,000 NATO
  bombs? Is this sad, no, tragic state of affairs worth
NATO
  turning Yugoslavia into an ecological nightmare? Can
anyone
  say that Yugoslavia is safer today because of what
NATO did?
  Does anyone know how long we have extended the "Balkan
  sickness" of ethnic hatred because of NATO's
brutality? Does
  anyone even care about the Balkans?

  Before NATO made things worse in Kosovo, NATO made
  things worse in Bosnia. We could have prevented the
tragedy
  by giving the Muslims the arms to protect themselves.
  However, instead of doing that, both Republican and
Democrat
  administrations allowed Croats and Serbs to partition
Bosnia
  by force. Now, we have stationed NATO troops and
hordes of
  "do-gooders-for-a-fee" parasites all over Southern
Yugoslavia
  at an 

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1999-08-23 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: The Conspiracy Was Strong - Part 2
   Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:21:56 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: The WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto Prayer
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http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate: August 22, 1999

   THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG

Part II: BRITISH-ISRAEL

  THE JUDAIZERS




There have been approximately thirty recognized splinter organizations
resulting from Worldwide Church of God - Organizational Splits, although
other sources estimate that hundreds of groups have formed from the WCG.
It is a common practice of conspiratorial organizations to subdivide and
create new fronts with diverse names in order to diffuse public
perception of the greater conspiracy which is still intact. This plan
goes into action especially when the mother organization is exposed or
discredited.

Today, numerous Sabbatarian, Restoration, British-Israel, Messianic and
Sacred Name organizations, which have been spawned by the WCG, are
carrying on the work of the late Herbert W. Armstrong, indoctrinating
new disciples in his British-Israel teachings and worldview. In June
1998, an Israel Identity Conference held in the United States and
Australia was promoted and attended by numerous Church of God affiliates
and Sabbatarian organizations. These included the Worldwide Church of
God, United Church of God, British-Israel World Federation, Global
Church of God, Christian Educational Services, Servant's News magazine,
Faith in Australia magazine, The Journal newspaper, The Independent
Church of God, Perspectives magazine, Alert newsletter, Sabbath History
newsletter, The Shofar newsletter, Origins of Nations magazine/History
Research Projects. [Craig White, News of the Israel Identity Conference
with Dr Rick Sherrod, The Journal, 8-24-98]

According to Personal Freedom Outreach, Christian Education Services is
a splinter group of The Way International cult founded in 1985 by Victor
Paul Wierwille who denied the Trinity and divinity of Jesus Christ, used
only the Aramaic version of the Bible, rejected Sunday worship, denied
the Holocaust and, during the late 1960s and 70s, recruited large
numbers of young people from the Jesus Movement.

As well, the Israel Identity Conference was promoted by James Trimm of
the Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism, which connects
through the Messianic Friends Network with numerous Messianic
organizations such as Jews for Jesus and Messengers of Messiah. Mention
was made in a SANJ message dated 8/17/98 that an international
conference is being planned in Jerusalem for several reasons, one being
that "Jerusalem is destined to be the capital city of United Israel
including both Judah and the Lost Ten Tribes." Another attraction in
Jerusalem is the presence of rabbis such as Yair Davidy of Brit-Am
Israel. The goal is recognition that the "Jews of Judah" and the Lost
Tribes are brothers, to the end they will be reconciled and reunited.
SANJ also hosts the Lost Tribes Forum -- "one of several Rabbinic
organizations (including Yair Davidy of Brit-Am) which teach that the
Lost Tribes migrated to Europe." (8/28/98) Yair Davidy, who denies the
divinity of Jesus Christ, also teaches that present day Jews are from
the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin and the tribe of Joseph is divided into
Ephraim which is Great Britain, and Mannaseh, the United States.

Herbert Armstrong's global agenda is also being fulfilled through
organizations like Sir Anthony Buzzard's Restoration Fellowship and the
greater Church of God General Council whose publication, The Journal,
promotes the Garner Ted Armstrong Evangelistic Association and the
Worldwide Church of God. The Journal also lists the Olive-Hebrew Roots
CDRom Encyclopaedia promoted by HRM organizations and published by the
Saltshakers Ltd in London. The Olive-Hebrew Roots CD-Rom carries
articles written by Andrew Gould, Jacob Prasch, and admitted kabbalist,
Avi ben Mordecai, among other Messianic teachers.

On his Restoration Fellowship web page, Sir Anthony Buzzard explains the
Hebrew Roots Concept of Christianity. One issue of the COG Journal
announced a Hebrew Roots conference to be held at the Atlanta Bible
College where Sir Anthony serves on staff:

 "The conferees will study the 'Hebrew roots of our faith'
 [and] our biblical unitarian heritage as expounded by such
 distinguished persons as Sir Isaac Newton and John Milton."
 [both famous English Rosicrucians-BA]

A pastor of a major Hebrew Roots organization, Messengers of Messiah,
Peter Michas subscribes to the doctrines of the Jerusalem School of
Synoptic Research, a non-Christian Jesus Seminar-type think tank which
denies the inspiration of the Greek New Testament. The JSSR is a
"consortium of Jewish and Christian scholars" who, like the Unitarian
Anthony Buzzard, deny the deity of 

[CTRL] [Fwd: The Conspiracy Was Strong - Part 2]British Israel section2

1999-08-23 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: The Conspiracy Was Strong - Part 2
   Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:21:56 -0400
   From: "Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: The WatchmenFrom: Watch Unto Prayer
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   THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG

Part II: BRITISH-ISRAEL

  THE JUDAIZERS

 section2

 There are stipulations to the blessing bestowed on these men
 and their seed. Leviticus 26:1-18 deals with Israel before the
 dispersion. In verse 19, we see the dispersion; this occurred
 around 700 B.C. when they were dispersed into Assyria. After
 the time of the Greek and Roman Empires during the middle
 ages, the entire Assyrian Empire moved to France, Germany, and
 northern Spain. They were scattered and made a part of these
 nations. The teachers and educated ones of ancient Babylon had
 been brought to Rome during their occupation by the Greeks.
 This explains why it can be read G-d calling certain places
 Assyria or Babylon in Revelation; He is referring to the
 places where these peoples settled. When hearing "Assyria," we
 think of where it used to be. G-d is referring to the places
 where these people are today or will be at the end time
 referred to in Revelation.

According to Peter Michas, the Unicorn, alluded to in Deuteronomy
13:13-17 by the patriarch Jacob, symbolizes the Anglo-Saxon nations
which would descend from Joseph and become preachers of the Gospel:

 "And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord be his land... let
 the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of
 the head of him that was separated from his brethren. His
 glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are
 like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people
 together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten
 thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh."

If Peter Michas interpretation of Jacob's blessing sounds like
Replacement Theology -- it is. Remember the Duck Rule? "If it looks like
a duck and quacks like a duck, even if they call it by another name, it
is still a duck." Is it possible that Christians, believing they have
escaped Dominionist and Replacement Theology, are being recycled into
these very movements via the back door -- the Hebrew Roots Movement --
and that this door is held wide open by the Discernment ministries?
Those who dare to critique the Hebrew Roots Movement are falsely accused
of being anti-Semites; however, is not British-Israelism the ultimate
anti-Semitism? British-Israelites, such as Gene Scott or Bible
Restoration Ministries, ascribe Celtic emblems to the tribes of Israel
and would thereby deprive the true descendants of Jacob -- the Jews --
of their God-given inheritance:

 "Instead of trying to identify each tribe as a specific modern
 nation, we note that ancient Israel traveled in four brigades
 of three tribes each (see the on-line tract, "What Is The
 Gospel?" - listed under Bible Doctrines, and also the
 reference given there to Alfred Edersheim's "History of the
 Old Testament.") Each of these brigades had a dominant tribe;
 these were: Judah, Ephraim, Reuben, and Dan. These four tribes
 provided four chief emblems: Lion, Ox or Unicorn, Man, and
 Eagle or Serpent. To quote briefly from W.H. Bennett, "Of the
 twenty-two tribal emblems of ancient Israel, at least nineteen
 still are, or until very recently have been, emblems of one or
 another section of the Celto-Saxon people. We also noted that,
 of the four Brigade emblems, two, the lion and the Eagle, are
 the chief emblems of Britain and the United States; that
 another, the Man, is a prominent feature of the official Arms
 of Denmark, Iceland and Greece; and that the Ox is also common
 to the heraldry of several sections of the Celto-Saxons. So
 all four of Israel's Brigade emblems are in use among the
 Celto-Saxons today." (Symbols Of Our Celto-Saxon Heritage,
 page 89)

According to Bloodline of the Holy Grail, the unicorn is a mythological
beast typifying the virile Christ. An entire chapter is devoted to "The
House of the Unicorns," which is purported to be the Sang Raal or sacred
bloodline of Jesus Christ, whose bride was claimed to be Mary Magdalene,
here referred to as the Sacred Prostitute.

 "We have already seen that the 'Horn' of the Unicorn was
 equivalent to the 'Blade' in Grail lore, and both were
 represented by the male symbol L . Along with the Davidic Lion
 of Judah and the Franco-Judaic fleur-de-lys, the Desposynic
 Unicorn was incorporated in the Royal Arms of Scotland. The
 Unicorn was considered to correspond to the virile Jesus, and
 was related to the 

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1999-08-23 Thread Nicola Molloy
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Hi all, the links didn't come out on this with plain text so if you don't
mind may I resend it HTML as it is priceless. Piles and piles of great
links behind the words.
Nicky
 Original Message 


Subject:

The Conspiracy Was Strong



Date:

Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:03:50 -0400



From:

"Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>



To:

"Watch Unto Prayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>



To: The WatchmenFrom:
Watch Unto Prayer
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http://watch.pair.com/pray.htmlDate:
August 20, 1999
THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG
by
Barbara Aho



And the conspiracy
was strong; for the people increased continually with Absalom. II Sam15:12a


"Worrying Connections" was the subject of an
article written by Andrew Gould to expose the improper connections between
certain Hebrew Roots and Revival ministries. Mr. Gould's article and other
anti-HRM material were removed some time ago from the websites of various
Discernment ministries subsequent to a threat of litigation from Messengers
of Messiah Ministries. Watch Unto Prayer was also named in this threat;
however it was never our intention to issue a retraction nor to withdraw
our material from the Internet, as demanded by Peter Michas.
That these Discernment ministries would so
easily capitulate and then berate our attempt to expose this major heretical
cult is unfortunate, but not altogether surprising. As I have interacted
with these ministries, I have pondered many "worrying connections" within
their own ranks. Having confronted those whom I knew personally, but to
no avail, I believe that the Christians who follow them have a right to
the following information.



"And we beseech you brethren, to know
them which labour among you..." (I Th. 5:12)
THE DISCERNMENT CONFERENCE



In June of 1997, I attended a Discernment Conference
in East Lansing, Michigan, which was organized by Jewel van der Merwe of
Discernment Ministries
and Sarah Leslie of the Christian
Conscience. The speakers at this conference included Dean Gotcher,
Nancy Flint, Russ Bellant, Berit Kjos,
Cynthia Weatherly, Sarah Leslie and Jewel van der Merwe. Ed
Tarkowski had been scheduled as a speaker but was unable to attend.
Gary Kah, author of "En Route to Global Occupation" and other books on
the New World Order, gave an informal talk after the conference.
Upon my return from East Lansing, I wrote
and circulated a report titled "The Unitarian Creed." Being at a loss to
explain why this experience occurred at a Discernment Conference, I simply
described my encounter with a Unitarian minister who introduced himself
and wished to persuade me to the Unitarian doctrines that the Holy Spirit
is an emanation rather than a person and that Jesus was a human son of
God in the same way believers are sons of God.
Sir Anthony F. Buzzard also explained that
he had left the formerly Unitarian Worldwide Church of God after that denomination
embraced orthodox doctrine in 1994 and affiliated with the Church of God
General Conference which maintains the Unitarian doctrine. The CGGC headquarters
and college, Atlanta Bible College, where Sir Anthony is on staff, are
located in Morrow, GA, a suburb of Atlanta.
Sir Anthony had given me his card and contacted
me via e-mail soon after the conference, wishing to discuss further reasons
why the New Testament gives no clear statement of Jesus' divinity or of
the person of the Holy Spirit. When I looked up the web page of Anthony
Buzzard's Restoration
Fellowship, I was astonished to discover that this British gentleman
had been nominated in 1996 for the Templeton
Prize. This $1,000,000 "Prize for Progress in Religion" is given annually
by New Age financier John Templeton at the World Parliament of Religions,
which has included among the distinguished recipients Billy Graham, Bill
Bright, Chuck Colson, Mother Teresa, Cardinal Suenens and various Buddhist,
Hindu and Muslim leaders. This honor is advertised in Anthony
Buzzard's Profile.
I might have reasoned that Sir Anthony Buzzard
was simply using the Discernment Ministries as a Christian cover for his
globalist agenda, however this conference was "By Invitation Only" and
no one could have been present without the approval of the organizers.
I therefore spoke to Sarah Leslie thinking that there must have been some
mistake in the process of selecting conferees. She replied that Jewel van
der Merwe had invited him. When I expressed my alarm to Jewel that someone
with Anthony's credentials had been invited to a Discernment Conference,
she thanked me for being nice to him and explained that he is "confused."
Still disturbed about this experience one year later, I wrote to Sarah
via e-mail and received the following reply:
>From: Lynn D. Leslie
>Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 11:38 AM
>To: Timothy Aho
>Subject: Re: More Thoughts...

>I do not know Anthony Buzzard other than having
been introduced to him via Jewel. At >that time I firmly cautioned her
that this man was an apostate and to stay away from >him. I do not know
if 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [prj] Crown, Grand Orient, etc.]

1999-11-06 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: [prj] Crown, Grand Orient, etc.
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:56:58 -0800
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Those who posit a "Crown" vs. Grand Orient Masonry scenerio for a battle
for control of globalist insitutions present an interesting case.  I
have
traditionally believed this scenerio, just as I believe that within the
"Old Order" may be a battle between its Vatican and Rockefeller power
centers.  Obviously, there are banker-alligned globalists and "human
rights" globalists such as Chomsky, though there is also over-lap here.
But, we must admit that the "human rights" argument has often
been applied selectively, and sometimes as a tool of mega-political
factions who have pulled the strings on movements without even the
leadership really understanding what was occuring.  Within America,
ostensibly pro-"human rights" movements (tied in a sense to Grand Orient
Masonry, at least philosophically), such as prison reform movements, gun
owners movements, and civil liberties movements, work against the state
for specific ends.  However, the geo-political agendas of their
leadership are often in line with the Empire of the City, even as they
are in themselves laudible.
There is a battle within the globalist movement, perhaps a
four-way one between Rockefeller, Vatican, as well as Crown and Grand
Orient factions.  This I have covered ad nauseum in months and years
past.  Within the four-way split can be another level of contention; two
general trends within the globalist movement, which are both arrayed
against national autarchy.  One is the banker-controlled New World Order
forces, centered primarily on London and New York financial centers.
here we can certainly see Crown-Rockefeller cooperation.  But we also
have the gadflies; Vatican and Grand Orient globalists who are
religiously motivated and often quite hostile to financial controllers.
The Vatican is considered "conservative", but has been kept so by
Emperors of times past and by modern right-wing orders, including the
American CIA.  In its essense, Vatican power is often revolutionary, and
maintained a strongly centralist role under medieval feudalism.  Church
power is ideally supposed to supercede State power, and the loss of
negative liberties more akin to the loss of certain freedoms under
revolutionary regimes than under conservative monarchies or oligarchies.
 Thus there is a commonality between traditional Catholicism and radical
Grand Orient philosophies on some level, even as they are radically
opposed on others. Opposition to banker control of the New World Order
may be one commonality.
Thus, we can see forces cooperating across appearant ideological
lines, as the conservative London bankers and the radicals of Europe did
in the nineteenth century, or the Czar of Russia and the Italian
revolutionaries.  Right now, factions are being superceded by
institutionalized control, something I have overlooked in times past.
Thus we really can see a coalition around financial oligarchicalism on
the one hand, and "human rights" ideological globalism on the other, now
that certain resiting forces (the Iron Curtain, powerful Arab
resistance,
and the Empires of Old) have been removed, or appearantly removed.  As
we
have observed with Chinese bellicose nationalism, which the financialist
believe they can footsie with, sometimes there are little "surprises"
which are not so little.
Right and Left globalists both agree that organizations such as
the UN and "World Law" courts are necessary.  There is further
convergence even there.  They have both failed to consider that perhaps
these institutions can obtain a life of their own, and turn against
their creators.  Thus we may see a kind of convergence which is more
institutional than covert, a kind of structural change in which all
loose
out, and bureaucracy itself wins.  Not only a triumph for conspiracy,
but
a very boring one.
For now, nations are intact.  The globalization is more economic,
to the chagrin of the more ideological Federalists within Left-wing as
well as Vatican circles.  The Dalai Lama gets the media attention, but
China gets the trade deals.  However, a tide might be shifting.  With a
call for democratization within central banking in Foreign Affairs (!),
a
blatantly globalistic issue for that matter, might mean that the nature
of globalism is changing.  Old familiar alliances (Crown versus
Rockefeller, Vatican vs. Grand Orient, militia vs. government, etc.) may
be shifting as convergence seems imminent.
Convergence?  Well, it has appeared to be imminent before.  But
how 'bout that China?!  They really are something.  They seem to be
controlling a once 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [prj] Brown Clouds ...]

1999-11-06 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Did anyone ever figure out what was happening here. haven't heard
anything about contrails for ages, but Newshawk was wondering of the
fires in CA were somehow spreading disease in the smoke.

Nicky

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 BROWN CLOUDS STRIKE WASHINGTON

 I just received eyewitness reports of choppers refueling in the German
 Luftwaffe section of Dulles Airport (near Washington, D.C. [SinCity] in
 Reston, Virg.) that were spraying over the Northern Virg., area a brown
 cloud from 1-6PM May 1.  Five eyewitnesses saw the event.  People are coming
 down with sicknesses now big time, commuters into Washington, DC, from there
 are sick, spreading it into DC, according to DC insider Joel Garnett.  Kids
 are calling in sick at local Herndon High School in areas sprayed.

 Both Pentagon/Prophecy Club lecturer Al Cuppett supplied this hot info, plus
 publisher Premonitions of an American Holocaust in the DC area confirmed
 this brown cloud and strange smell and now people getting sick there.

 In regards to contrails making people sick, this is the first report in
 which we know the origin of the airborne vehicles dispersing the deadly
 stuff, and apparently the German Air Force is playing a deadly role, just as
 they emphatically will so do under martial law.

 ---Pam Schuffert
 Defenders of Liberty Radio

 Source:  Media Bypass, June, 1999, page 46.

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1999-11-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Subject: Fwd: mind control update (from Robin)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 99 11:11:30 +1200
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Date:04/15  5:46
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Harry,

Share this cheery news with whomever you wish.

Robin

(begin)

Mind-control is a growing problem in the US and can only be stopped if
the general public is made aware of it.  The controlled media in the US
will not report on such atrocities since they are part of an ongoing,
"non-lethal" ethnic cleansing policy of the US government against
heterosexual white US citizens.  (their genes were right but had the
misfortune to be deemed politically incorrect)  That such outrages can
be occurring without the public being aware of it is also due to the
dumbing-down which has occurred in our educational system as a result of
affirmative action programs.  Such "under represented minority"
promoting
programs must be resisted, since the net effect of such progams is not
to promote the targetted minorities, but to lower the intellectual,
moral, and ethical standards of the institutions (Universities,
professions, etc.) involved.  Though a case can and should be made for
a female-quota (like in Germany and other European countries) since
such systems achieve their goals without lowering the intellectual
level of affected programs.  Thus it is incumbent on netizens to take
the initiative on their own and become informed. The following
websites give credible accounts of mind-control cases and more
information:

http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~raven1/
http://members.aol.com/AYU5565448/index.htm
http://harvest-trust.org/mindcont.htm
http://www.netti.fi/~makako/mind/index.html

The U.S. government has a lot to lose if it's
exposed for these human rights abuses in terms of its public
relations image.  Therefore, mind control in the U.S. is carefully
crafted to make victims appear to be mentally ill.  The three
components of the American mind-control system are:

1) systematic social isolation and occupational dead-ending
2) surveillance harassment
3) direct control of the brain via microwaves, microchips,
infrasound, ELF, etc.

The included article is based on a book appearing currently in German,
which deals with the mind-control threat.



  Remote-Controlled


A new threat will supercede the atomic age!  Dr. Helmut and Marion
Lammer,
the best-known conspiracy/UFO experts of the country, whose next book
Schwarze Forschungen ("Black-Budget Research") will soon appear, deliver
in
the Evolver a foretaste of their work indeed and report on weapons of
biological-process control.

Scientists have sought for more than 30 years to connect the human brain
with
computers and other hardware.  In the air- and space-travel magazine
"Aviation Week
and Space Technology" of August 15, 1994 a retired Colonel of the US
Army
confirmed that for decades the American military has carried out
extensive
experiments relating to the control of long-range steering mechanisms of
rockets and
airplanes via brain-wave manipulation.

These attempts date to back in the sixties, when secret experiments to
control the
conscious under the name MKULTRA were carried out.  The first doctor who
researched the direct stimulation of the brain was the swiss
physiologist
Dr.
Walter
Rudolf Hess.  Hess was between 1917 and 1951 the Director of the
Physiology
Institute of Zurick.  His experiments included the introduction of fine
electrical
conducting wires in the brains of anesthetized cats.  As he
electronically
stimulated
particular regions of the brain they became small maniacs.  Fundamental
work
towards the control of brain functions with radiowaves were published in
1934
by Dr.
E.L. Chaffee and Dr. R. U. Light in a paper with the title: "A Method
for
the
Remote
Control of Electrical Stimulation of the Nervous System."  The out of
the
spanish
faschist regime originating medical doctor Jose Delgado and other
scientists
developed these methods further in order to be able finally to apply
them
to
humans.
Dr. Delgado went to the USA and became the director for neuropschiatry
at
Yale
University.  Along with his researches in the area of epilepsy he worked
however also
for the Office of Naval Intelligence, the american secret agency CIA,
and
other
institutions, during which he transferred the research of Dr. Hess, Dr.
Chaffee, and
Dr. Light upon human guinea pigs and developed the vision of
remote-controlled
soldiers and eventually of an implanted mankind.  In his beginning
experiments in the
fifties the heads of his experimental animals were equipped with metal
clamps
and
long fine needles introduced in the brain regions in order to stimulate
them.
 In later

[CTRL] Smoking cigarettes prevents abduction by reptoids.

1999-11-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

Someone sent this to me thought it may be worth contemplating.

Nicky

 Original Message 
Subject: Fwd: The Philosopher's Stone May 1999.
Date: Sun, 2 May 99 11:26:38 +1200
From: harryo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Begin Forwarded Message 
Date:05/02  7:41
Received:05/02  10:27
From:Jon Locke, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Philosopher Stone May 1999
by Jon Locke, Editor

Americans have 35 captured UFOs.
This is from Dr. Ronee Lena Luukanen from Finland. She is very active at
UFO conferences around the world. She claims to be in contact with a
friendly grey alien from Zeta Reticula. She knows of the US and Russian
UFO
Programs. She claims the Americans has 35 captured UFOs and 131 dead
aliens.

More on aliens from Cosmic Awareness. For 2 years now, UFOs have been
reported over New Mexico, USA, with over 100 reports daily coming in
during
this time. You do not hear it in the press because the government thinks
you will be scared by it. Would you be scared? Maybe you don't care a
lot
about UFOs. Some people have written me and said while they believe in
UFOs
they do not consider them worth reporting. So I say to you, as Awareness
does, "This Awareness indicates the thing about UFOs is that it causes
entities to think more Galatically, and less narrow and locally."

Many Aliens Can Change Their Appearance.
Not every alien race can do this. But the ones that can can appear as
humans.

The Americans have an exchange program with Acturians. Acturians are
friendly to humans. This exchange program is not well know, but has
existed
for some time. To list those aliens who are beneficial to humans it
would
include those from these star systems: Pleiades, Lyra, Vega and Sirius.
The
bad guys come from Orion, Draco, Zeta Reticula and Bettleguese. OF
course
there exceptions. But these are the general guidelines.

Smoking Cigarettes Prevents Abduction.
If you would like to keep from being eaten by a Reptoid, you should eat
at
lot of foods with preservatives in them, coffee and cokes and smoke
cigarettes. Reptoids do not like to eat old humans with impurities in
them.
That is why they prefer children. 50,000 children are missing every year
in
England. Reptoid live below London.
If you are already possessed by a reptoid , here are some ways to
get rid of the unwanted entity. Eat plenty of fruits and veggies. And
listen to classical music. Specifically Sibelius 2nd Symphony and 5th
Symphony.  Also the 2nd Symphony of Gustav Mahler. You should set aside
time to listen to these with the volume as high as is proper for you, so
that you can completely let the music cover you and be absorbed by the
music to the point where the musical vibrations of the spiritual tones
can
have an effect on your aura and on the astral Reptoids that may be
inside
you.  Of course it is best to play this music a BEFORE being possessed
so
you stay UNPOSSESSED. Here is some more music to listen to. (Look in the
Classical section of record stores.)Scheherazade by Rimsky=Korsakov. And
Barber's Adagio for Strings which has certain tones that  are especially
harmonious which can be of great benefit. You may pick music your
resonate
to also. The Pachelbel Kanon in D may be of benefit also.

Don't laugh. There is a list on the Internet of people who are
deliberately
trying to find ways to prevent abduction by UFOs.  Since millions of
people
have experienced abduction, I encourage the list. IF you want to know
how
to join, email me privately.  Some people don't want to talk about the
scary side of UFOs. I have people unsubscribe from this newsletter
whenever
the topic is mentioned. IT is too horrible to think about for some
people.
Imagine being asleep one night when a beam of light comes thru the roof.
You are paralyzed. You are taken thru the roof to a space ship. You are
probed in the most private and painful places. They have their will with
you and you cannot even complain about it once you are back on earth
cause
nobody believes in it. But this is the way things are. We are like
cattle
to them. So imagine how a cow feels when a human ropes and brands it.
Well,
we are more than "Cattle for the gods." We have a soul. And we did not
ask
to be raped by these grey aliens. IT is like a 50 year old man ravishing
a
12 year old girl. So I began an investigation to find out way s to get
over
or prevent abductions. I asked a facilitator of the Flower of Life
Workshop. He said yes, the merkaba meditation sets up an auric field
which
cannot be penetrated by grey aliens. So there is hope for us to defeat
their technology which is 10,000 years ahead of ours. So we Can do it
with
our mind. The  MerKaBa is a gift from Melchizedek Order and comes from
out
of the Universe surely. Instructions are printed free on my site
http://earth.vol.com/~voltron//




[CTRL] Dulce Book Chap 11

1999-11-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

I just found this but there are a few typos because my friend's computer
for some reason puts a symbol for fi so you just need to replace it in
your mind. Also a few other symbols seem to have sneaked in, so sorry.I
have tried to edit it but for some reason when I delete a letter big
chunks vanish.The url is at the bottom.

Nicky

 Original Message 
Subject: on to you
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 99 12:44:56 +1200
From: harryo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]



‹‹-Mensaje original‹‹-
De: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: undisclosed-recipients:; undisclosed-recipients:; Fecha:
viernes, 16 de abril de 1999 5:23 Asunto: TOP SECRET part 5


sent to PLANETNEWS:

[This is part 5 of a 5 part series from the book, ³The Dulce Book² -
Chapter
11 by ³Branton²
If you have not received all 5 parts please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] If
you would like to be removed from thremove²thanks]

WARNING not bedtime reading



Q ‹ Are there any other security level names [other than secret¹ -¹top
secret¹ - ultra¹]?

A ‹ There are many other security clearances, here are a few, UMBRA,
STELLAR, G2-7Z, TRIAD, UMT [Universal Military Training] and UMS
[Universal Military Service], ASTRAL and SUB-ASTRAL. UMBRA is higher
than ULTRA (Note: It may be
conceivable that some of the higher security clearances are used for the
joint human-alien interstellar projects. For instance Whitley Streiber
described an abduction to another planetary sphere where he encountered
ancient ruins, aliens and human personnel dressed in military kackies
and carrying camcorders, automatic weapons, etc. Obviously such
personnel would
have to possess an extremely high security classiÞcation, such as
³Universal Military Service² for instance? The joint alien-illuminati
³Alternative-3² projects have reportedly taken part in joint offensive
operations against the peaceful residents of other worlds, this
according to
a couple who defected¹ from the Alternative-3 movement after an agent
from
the Federation¹ warned them about such atrocities. - Branton)

Q ‹ Ever see a badge with MAJI¹?

A ‹ No.

Q ‹ Since you have lived in Spanish speaking countries, it¹s obvious
that you are bilingual. What other languages do you speak?

A ‹ Other than English, the only other languages I speak are Spanish and
Eusshu, the common language [alien] spoken at Dulce. I speak Spanish
þuently, and enough Eusshu to keep my self out of trouble. Shortly
after I Þrst transferred to Dulce, I took a crash course in Eusshu. Any
one
that plans to spend more than one week working at that base, they are
wise to
learn the basics. Other wise, you are required to wait for an escort to
get
around.
All the signs at that base are written in the universally recognized
symbolic
language. Eusshu is logical and easy to learn.

Q ‹ What are the eating habits of the aliens? Are they carnivores?

A ‹ That depends weather they are one of the gray worker caste, one of
the
reptilian worker caste, or one of the higher developed Draconian
Leaders. Also, the created beings,
replicants, type two being, or one of the really strange [genetic]
mixtures. I¹ll try to cover a little of each. The formula includes
amniotic
water, plasma and several other body parts [raw, usually bovine]. This
nearly
clear mixture with a texture of
pureed peaches, and almost in that color. The Greys make the attempt not
to
eat¹ around the humans, because the odor of it is VERY unpleasant to ANY
human. They can spend days or even weeks between feedings. The working
caste
of the reptilians eat meat, insects and a large variety of plants
including
vegetables and fruit. They prefer their meat raw and very fresh, but
have learned to enjoy some cooked meat like rare beef steak (Note:
According to many abductees, the reptiloids are not above eating human
þesh.
It has been said that they prefer þesh that is young enough to be free
of
toxins, yet old enough to be imbued with a lifetime of accumulated
³emotional energy residue² which is resident within
the human body. Some abductees claim that certain reptilian factions
have such complex bio-technologies that they are able to remove a
human¹s soul-energy-matrix and place it in a containment Œox¹, and use
the controlled body¹ for whatever purpose they choose. Some abductees
also insist that in some cases the reptiloids can create a cloned
duplicate of a person in a short amount of time through time warping and
replace the soul-energy-matrix of a person back into the new cloned body
if
their disappearance from society would otherwise create too many
problems.

This way they can ingest the
emotional-residue-imbued original body without the abductee realizing
[in most cases] that their soul-memory-matrix has been transferred
to a cloned body, because they would have experienced a total
soul-matrix¹
energy transfer and a suppression of any memories relating to the
transfer
process. The cloned bodies do not possess the integrated 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Uri geller Article]

1999-11-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

 Original Message 
Subject: Uri geller Article
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 99 12:00:08 +1300
From: harryo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Believe it or not, every word of what you are about to read is for real.
Uri Geller

Let's start with something that seems fairly down to earth: a microchip.
Ah, but the new transfer capacitor made by the American Computer Company
in New Jersey is no ordinary microchip: it's capable of storing 300Gb of
information - enough for 15 Hollywood blockbusters. ACC chief Jack
Shulman claims his chip runs at 12,OOOGHz: around 20,000 times faster
than the fastest Intel Pentium II chip you can buy. About the size of a
casino baccarat chip, the TCAP takes millionths of a billionth of a
second to implement a calculation.

Shulman comments that, "The implications are staggering. If I were Bill
Gates, I'd be jumping for joy. There is no longer an upper limit to the
performance possible for the common, everyday personal computer."

Which is all well and good, but while it's very impressive, there's
nothing odd about it. Or there wasn't, until ACC cancelled its patent
application on July 4th last year. Shulman issued press releases
insisting he could not legally keep TCAP technology to himself, because
that would violate the Outer Space Treaty, breaching international law.

His logic is that the TCAP, apparently, was backwards-engineered from a
crashed alien spaceship recovered at Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947.
According to UFOlogists, the US Government has been working on secret
projects at the Nellis Air Force Range at Groom Lake, 90 miles
north-west of Las Vegas, Nevada - the 'above-top-secret' facility
codenamed 'Area 51' or 'Dreamland'. Here scientists are said to unravel
extra terrestrial technology in search of elements they can understand.
The Roswell ship was fifty times more advanced than anything on post-war
earth, believes Shulman - and the development of transistors in 1949 was
the first direct result. In 1998, the TCAP was another.

"We realise that the TCAP was designed by a superior intelligence so as
to overcome the problems either with super-cooling or over-complicated
device designs," says Shulman. "It's quite fascinating."

HOLD THAT THOUGHT

Sticking with the Roswell craft for a moment, nuclear physicist Jack
Sarfatti has suggested it may have been piloted by thought control - its
occupants setting the co-ordinates by visualising their destination.
This technology now appears to be within human reach, after astonishing
research carried out not on alien spaceships but on human paralysis
victims. Roy Bakay heads a neurology team at Emory University in
Atlanta, Georgia, which has developed an implant that sends thought
signals from the brain to a computer.

Bakay buried glass cones the size of a ball point tip in the motor
cortexes of two paraplegic patients, using a magnetic resonance imaging
scanner to home in on the most active regions. The glass had been
impregnated with neurotrophic chemicals taken from the patients' own
knees, to stimulate nerve growth. Neurons colonised the cones, attaching
themselves like limpets to minute electrodes, and their signals were
transmitted to a receiver-transmitter worn in a metal skull-cap.

By imagining body movements, the paralysed users were able to control
the transmissions and move an on-screen cursor across a simple menu.
'Lift left leg' might translate to an upward scroll - 'stamp right foot'
could click on a choice. The menu offers limited options, and one of the
volunteers has since died of her sclerosis, but prototype Emory implants
now enable one 57-year-old stroke victim to switch lights on or request
food and water.

Bakay's team, which started by experimenting on monkeys, has taken eight
years to reach this point, and faces several more years of testing
before more detailed commands can be processed. The aim is to control
artificial limbs, giving paraplegics new hope of walking, he told the
Congress of Neurological Surgeons in Seattle. Linking to the Internet is
another short-term aim: "if you can run a computer, you can talk to the
world," says Bakay.

The possible non-medical uses are truly mind-boggling. Operating
computers, TVs and household appliances by thought-power is just the
beginning: Emory implant wearers will be able to communicate by
electronic telepathy, firing impulses between their transmitter caps.
And if TCAP processing power takes hold, virtual reality will be
significantly more convincing, and with thought control, humans will be
able to mould their surroundings in the flash of a synapse. You want to
be on a sunny beach? just think about it for a second...

QUANTUM LEAPS

Dr Fred Alan Wolf, award-winning theoretical physicist, believes the
human mind can do more than just create a universe - it can leap around
the future, too. In a paper presented at the Vigier conference, called
The Timing of the Conscious Experience, Wolf declared: "We are all
psychic, whether we like it or not. Our 

[CTRL] Non Lethal weapons

1999-11-09 Thread Nicola Molloy



 Original Message 
Subject: Fwd: From S4
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 99 21:56:46 +1200
From: harryo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Begin Forwarded Message 
Date:04/16  17:20
Received:04/16  17:50
From:Remy C., [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  Jim Keith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Harry G Osoff, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 =?Windows-1252?Q?Lars_=D6sterman?=, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The S4 Database List - http://area51.icom.net/

Yes!

Lots of information on this - some good and some dire. Jeff Rense
recently
showed photographs of one of these supposed camps and I think that it
was
somewhere in Michigan.

I'm not sure that there is this plot to 'enslave' Americans and I'm not
sure whether these camps are actually to be used for US 'prisoners'. I
think that we'd all like to hear some factual information about this
rather
than being told about Executive Orders signed by Bill Clinton.

Certainly the US military has at it's disposal  a great deal of
technology
which could be used against US citizens but under what circumstances
would
this take place? I recently posted information on various sites relating
to
a document written in 1997/8 by British academics entitled "An appraisal
of
technologies for political control - an interim study" (Scientific and
Technological Options Assessment (STOA) group of the European
Parliament.
Report number PE 166 499/Int.St. dated 19th January 1998.)

Here is the most interesting part of the report;

""5.6 Second Generation Incapacitation Weapons

In the Nineties, the revolution in so called 'non-lethal weapons' was
given
fresh impetus by new US programmes to fight internal conflicts -
ostensibly
without casualties. The US Government was driven towards finding a
universal panacea because of a series of embarrassing and widely
publicized
debacles including the Rodney King beating, the Waco siege and their
unfortunate experiences in Somalia, where they failed in crowd control
operations with only lethal technology. The new policy was avidly pushed
in
the States by the likes of Col. John Alexander (who made his name as
part
of the Phoenix Assassination programmes during the Vietnam war) and
science
fiction writers such as Alvin Toffler (Toffler, 1994) and Janet and
Chris
Morris, (Morris  Morris, 1990, 1994) and picked up by the


36





DoD and Justice Department.

Thus a second generation of kinetic, chemical, optico-acoustic,
microwave,
disabling and paralyzing technologies is on the horizon, to join the
existing arsenal of weapons designed for public order control. Much of
the
initial new work has been undertaken in US nuclear laboratories such as
Oak
Ridge, Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos. Many cynics see the work as a
rice bowl initiative with scientists looking for new weapons projects to
justify their future careers as the cold war made their old skill
redundant. Already they have come up with a Pandora's box of new
technologies. These include:

* Ultra-sound generators, which cause disorientation, vomiting and
involuntary defecation, disturbing the ear system which controls balance
and inducing nausea. The system which uses two speakers can target
individuals in a crowd.

* Visual stimulus and illusion techniques such as high intensity strobes
which pulse in the critical epileptic fit-inducing flashing frequency
and
holograms used to project active camouflage.

* Reduced energy kinetic weapons. Variants on the bean bag philosophy
which
ostensibly will result in no damage ( similar claims were once made
about
plastic bullets). (See Fig. 32)

* New disabling, calmative, sleep inducing agents mixed with DMSO which
enables the agent to quickly cross the skin barrier and an extensive
range
of pain causing, paralyzing and foul-smelling area-denial chemicals.
Some
of these are chemically engineered variants of the heroin molecule. They
work extremely rapidly, one touch and disablement follows. Yet one
person's
tranquillization may be another's lethal dose. (See Fig. 33)

* Microwave and acoustic disabling systems. (see Fig. 34)

* Human capture nets which can be laced with chemical irritant or
electrified to pack an extra disabling punch. (See Fig. 34)

* Lick 'em and stick 'em technology such as the Sandia National
Laboratory's foam gun which expands to between 35-50 times its original
volume. Its extremely sticky, gluing together any target's feet and
hands
to the pavement. (See Fig. 35)

* Aqueous barrier foam which can be laced with pepper spray.

* Blinding laser weapons and Isotrophic radiator shells which use
superheated gaseous plasma to produce a dazzling burst of laser like
light.
(See Fig. 36)

* Thermal guns which incapacitate through a wall by raising body
temperature to 107 degrees.

* Magnetosphere gun which delivers what feels like a blow to the head.



We are no longer at a theoretical stage with these 

[CTRL] Terminator Seeds

1999-11-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: [TheEagle-L] (Fwd) Terminator Seeds
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:56:00 -800
From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Mon, 31 May 1999 18:19:07 -0700
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Subject:   Terminator Seeds

Post Number 133: GE Foods, II
This information was sent to me just after I sent out the information on
genetically engineered foods.  This is another aspect of what is being
done to our food supply, and it is anything but an accident, and
certainly is being done with evil intent.

The ultimate control of people is through their food supply, or lack
thereof.  Any questions you have about this should lead you to a study
of what the Russian Communists did to the farmers who refused the
collective (centralized control of food production, thereby permitting
no dissent to the state) farms.  The Russian army went into the farms
and stole all food, animals and seed stocks.  This led to the starving
to death of millions of people.

The same is being planned here.  Let me give you a glimpse into the
future, as planned by the collectivist of Washington, DC, and London,
England.  Total control of food production through control of all seed
stocks and land (land by taxation).  Total control of all cities,
through limited amounts of food.  Total control of all weapons, through
food.

When you look at any major city in the US today, pay careful attention
to the "ring" roads which circle them.  These, as are all Interstate
Highways, are military roads.  It would be ridiculously easy to
establish military perimeters with small groups of soldiers controlling
these rings.  This also means total control of all food going in, and
not just shipments intended for the stores from the major supply
centers.  Your local health food store, the farmer's market, your
neighbor's son coming in for the weekend, all, of course, in the name of
`saving gas' or equal distribution according to need.  But the result
will be the same; no food unless it is distributed by the so-called
authorities.  More on this in the Y2K Planning Post coming up.

There is one point that I have no verification on, but which I "believe"
to be true.  When you read of Pol Pot and what he did in Cambodia, the
planning of emptying the cities and forcing the people into the country
side was done by a think tank in Washington, DC.  The killing fields of
Cambodia were simply a dress rehearsal for America.  And, if you doubt
this, please look into it.  It is hard to put any other face on the
plans being laid out for people having a 3 to 5 day supply of food, and
then FEMA will come in to "save" you, moving you and your family to a
camp.  There would be no other reason why the president of the United
States would write an Executive Order for the mobilization of all
civilians into labor battalions, unless this is what is planned.
Exactly the rational that was used in Cambodia.  As I could say
endlessly, there is far more to the story than a little bit in each
post; there is always the rest of the story.

To understand the total picture, you must first look at the facts behind
the different jurisdictions of the United States and America.
Meanwhile, genetics.

Plant Terminator Technology...04/13/99
"Technology Protection System" (TPS), otherwise known as Terminator
Technology.

My name is Bob Mueller. I'm not a paid activist, nor am I really an
activist at all, aside from the fact that I've been jostled out
of complacency enough to write this alert. I am, however, an ordinary
citizen who is quite unsettled by one specific issue: U.S.
Patent 5,723,765, entitled "Control of Plant Gene Expression". The
patent covers technology referred to as a plant
"Technology Protection System" (TPS), otherwise known as Terminator
Technology.

My goal is simple: to share my concern with you, in the hope that you
will be alarmed enough to more completely educate
yourself regarding this matter. For if I can accomplish this, I am
convinced, you will surely ACT.

The USDA, spending public money, has developed a technology whereby
seeds can be stripped of their ability to propagate.
They are in the process of patenting the process worldwide on behalf of
Monsanto, through a subsidiary (Delta and Pine Land
Company).

The driving force behind the Terminator technology is the ability for
Monsanto, and Delta and Pine Land Co., to protect their
"inventions" from being "duplicated" unlawfully, which, granted, sounds
appropriate and fair.

The result, however, will be to replace natural crops worldwide, with
genetically enhanced, superior, high yield crops.
Superior, that is, except for the fact that they can no longer reproduce

themselves, effectively forcing farmers worldwide to buy
their seeds annually from Monsanto...the world's only 

[CTRL] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD FAMINE

1999-11-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: [TheEagle-L] THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD
FAMINE--ST
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:03:57 -800
From: "Charmaine Ferreira - Apocalypse Project" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:   THE ULTIMATE IN FOOD CONTROL: TO MAKE A WORLD
FAMINE--STERILE
   SEED DEVISED BY SATANIC MINDS--how we can counteract

Let us contribute to SSE's legacy, by all of us who care about
nourishment
for ourselves, our families, our nation, and the world, to add our
numbers
to their gallant, "self pollinating," seed saving effort.  ac

This from the Seed Savers Exchange (SSE):  Seed savers Exchange is a
nonprofit, tax-exempt organization that is saving "heirloom"
(handed-down)
garden seeds from extinction.  SSE's 8,000 members grow and distribute
heirloom varieties of vegetables, fruits, grains, flowers and herbs.
SSE's
main focus is on heirloom varieties that gardeners and farmers brought
to
North America when their families immigrated, and traditional varieties
grown by Native Americans, Mennonites and Amish.  Since SSE was founded
in
1975, our members have distributed an estimated 750.000 samples of rare
and
endangered seeds not available through catalogs and often on the verge
of
extinction.  SSE has always been the leader of the heirloom seed
movement,
and the diligent efforts of our members are making rare heirloom
varieties
available to gardeners everywhere.

SSE's phone number and address to receive their catalogue:
(319)-382-5990

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genius
and insanity was so fine that it was barely
perceptible. In the world of biotechnology and food,
that
line has just been obliterated. Announcements made over
the past 90 days suggest that an ingenius scientific
achievement and subsequent, related business developments
threaten to terminate the natural, God-given right and
ability of people everywhere to freely grow food to feed
themselves and others. Never before has man created such
an insidiously dangerous, far-reaching and potentially
"perfect" plan to control the livelihoods, food supply
and even survival of all humans on the planet.
Overstatement? Judge for yourself.

On March 3, 1998, the U. S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and
the Delta and Pine Land Company, a Mississippi firm and
the largest cotton seed company in the world, announced
that they had jointly developed and received a patent (US
patent number 5,723,765) on a new, agricultural
biotechnology. Benignly titled, "Control of Plant Gene
Expression", the new patent will permit its owners and
licensees to create sterile seed by cleverly and
selectively programming a plant,s DNA to kill its own
embryos. The patent applies to plants and seeds of all
species. The result? If saved at harvest for future
crops, the seed produced by these plants will not grow.
Pea pods, tomatoes, peppers, heads of wheat and ears of
corn will essentially become seed morgues. In one broad,
brazen stroke of his hand, man will have irretrievably
broken the plant - to - seed - to - plant - to - seed -
cycle, THE cycle that supports most life on the planet.
No seed, no food..unless you buy more seed. This is
obviously good for seed companies. As it turns out, it
is also good for the US Department of Agriculture.

In a recent interview with RAFI, the Canada-based Rural
Advancement Foundation International, US Department of
Agriculture (USDA) spokesman, Willard Phelps, explained
that the USDA wants this technology to be "widely
licensed and made expeditiously available to many seed
companies." The goal, he said, is "to 

[CTRL] [Fwd: The Deadly Fruit of Kabbalah]

1999-09-08 Thread Nicola Molloy




 Original Message 


Subject:

The Deadly Fruit of Kabbalah



Date:

Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:42:10 -0400



From:

"Timothy Aho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>



To:

"Watch Unto Prayer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>



To: The Watchmen
From: Watch Unto Prayer
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://watch.pair.com/pray.html
Date: September 8, 1999
THE DEADLY FRUIT OF KABBALAH

The Tragedy of Gideon Busch
Last week, the Associated Press (8/31/99) reported the controversial
fatal shooting by New York police of a mentally disturbed Jewish man. It
seems that Gideon Busch had been "brandishing a hammer and threatening
children while singing loudly...
"At least five officers arrived and found
Gideon Busch, 31, in the basement of his house, wearing a prayer shawl
and leather pouches used to hold pieces of scripture, police said. The
officers retreated onto the street and Busch followed them, carrying the
hammer, said Detective Robert Samuel. Tear gas failed to subdue the man.
One police sergeant stumbled to the ground and Busch struck him several
times with the hammer, officers said. After Busch ignored several orders
to drop the hammer, officers fired at least 12 shots, striking him in the
torso at least seven times, police said."
A few days later, a New York Times feature story described the mental deterioration
of the once bright and affable Jewish medical student who became the tormented
and psychotic Gideon Busch. [A Watch Unto Prayer commentary will follow
Times article.]MAN SHOT BY CITY OFFICERS WAS ON A TROUBLED QUESTBy
Susan SachsThe New York TimesSeptember 2, 1999
 Ten years ago, at age 21 and with a promising
medical career in front of him, Gideon Busch learned he had an incurable
kidney disease. It was that knowledge, his family and
friends said, that capsized all the plans he had for his life, driving
him on a search for spiritual enlightenment in Orthodox Judaism and sometimes
sending him skidding into immobilizing depressions.
Most of the time, he was a sweet-natured young man everyone
called Gary, who loved music and the quiet grace of celebrating the
Jewish Sabbath with friends. But Mr. Busch could also slide into a deeply
troubled and disoriented world or his own frenetic prayers, fears and symbols.
The two sides -- often incompatible and impenetrable -- followed him to
his death. The police officers who shot and killed him
in Brooklyn on Monday evening said Mr. Busch, tall and skinny at 6 feet
3 inches and 159 pounds, attacked them with a hammer outside his tiny basement
apartment in Borough Park. On that hammer, Mr. Busch, 31, a deeply religious
man who prayed so loudly the neighbors complained, had carved the four
Hebrew letters signifying the name of God.
"In his good times, he was an outgoing fellow and would talk
and sing psalms around the Sabbath table," said Rabbi Yakov Saacks, the
director of the Chai Center in Dix Hills, N.Y., where Mr. Busch grew up
in suburban comfort on Long Island. "In his bad times, perhaps when he
wasn't taking his medication, he didn't look up from his prayer book or
his food. "There were two different Gary Busches," the
rabbi added. "I loved them both." As they prepared for
his funeral today in Dix Hills, Mr. Busch's family said he was a gentle,
if distressed, young man who never hurt anyone. "He had
a mental illness, no question about it," said his father, Norman Busch,
a retired dentist living in the Long Island town of Bay Shore. "But he
was not a violent person. He was never violent."
But Mr. Busch was hospitalized involuntarily for psychiatric
treatment three times at a hospital on Long Island, where doctors said
he had made threats to his parents and evinced signs of paranoid schizophrenia.
Two years ago, he entered a residential program for the mentally ill in
Borough Park but soon checked himself out against the advice of doctors
who said they did not believe he was capable of living on his own.
Still, his family said they did not recognize the man portrayed
in published reports since the shooting as behaving so erratically that
his neighbors called the police and as lunging with a hammer that the police
said was inscribed with Hebrew letters.
"This is not what he was or who he is," his mother, Doris
Busch Boskey, said, weeping. "They've created a person to explain away
or excuse what happened and what they did." Mr. Busch
was studying to be a doctor at Mount Sinai Medical School when he discovered,
when all the students tested their own urine sample as part of a classroom
exercise, that he suffered from an immune system problem. He was given
a diagnosis of IgA nephropathy, a disease that can lead to kidney failure.
Until then, his relatives said, Mr. Busch showed no signs
of mental instability. But the diagnosis shook him deeply.
Mr. Busch continued his studies, but in his third year of
medical school, he told his family he wanted to drop out. He read books
on philosophy. He immersed himself in his favorite classical music and
jazz. He talked of finding a 

[CTRL] IRS kaput?

1999-09-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

Thought you'd like this post.

 Original Message 
Subject: [TheEagle-L] Re: IRS kaput?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:10:09 -0400
From: Susan Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I believe this to be true letters have appeared on the net and reports
of checks
being returned to senders with a letter attached stating they have no
information
as to money being sent.   Also saw an article where the IRS fears that
businesses
owned by individuals will compromise its money base by failing to file
after Jan
1.  If this data base is gone then only those that have tax taken out of
their
paychecks will be in the system all others will be unknowns.  Now
wouldnt that be
nice.   There is a justice!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have heard a rumor that the IRS computers have been down since the start of
 their fiscal hear 2000, on July 1, 1999.  Anyone heard of this latest
 Internet rumor?

 Brad


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[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: [piml] IRS Y2K Problem?]

1999-09-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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The tax problem looks serious.

 Original Message 
Subject: SNET: [piml] IRS Y2K Problem?
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 17:22:32 -0700
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"On Sep 05, Don Cline wrote:"

Goodyear, Arizona (near Phoenix)

As significant as the Waco revelations may be, Chris Stark has raised
the
question of why now?  Why not a year and a half ago, when the
information
first (allegedly) became available?  He ties it, tentatively, to the
candidacy of George W. Bush, Jr.

I consider it far more likely that it is a smokescreen to distract the
media from what may be the biggest story of all:  It appears the
Internal
Revenue Service is "down".

So far I have about a quarter-ton of anecdotal evidence to indicate the
IRS
computers are either down across the board or, alternatively, they have
simply lost access to their taxpayer database.  The latest indication
arrived yesterday in the form of a typewritten letter on blank paper (no
IRS letterhead; no standard IRS computer format) advising me (without
going
into details) that "It will take us about three weeks to retrieve (the
information you request) together with any audit reports."

This is the third manually-typed letter I have received from the IRS in
the
last month.

The information I requested should be staring them in the face from
their
computer screen.  It _was_ staring them in the face from their computer
screen, along with several other pieces of information they still
haven't
picked up, prior to July 1st, which was the beginning of their fiscal
year
2000.  Since July 1st, they have claimed to have no record of it -- I
had
to provide them with copies.  And now they want three weeks to retrieve
the
information I just gave them.

The anecdotal evidence does not derive entirely from _my_ interaction
with
the IRS.  Ever heard of the IRS returning a check to a known "tax
protester"?  It has now happened to an individual in New Mexico, with
the
comment that the IRS "has no record" of any tax liability involving that
individual.

Numerous contacts with the IRS by other people with whom I am in
communication have resulted in what amounts to pure-dee "stonewalling".
The IRS has no information about someone; the taxpayer has to provide
the
information the IRS should have already had, and then the IRS comes back
with a dismissive answer designed to keep the taxpayer on hold for
another
three-four weeks.  This appears to be a holding operation, as though the
IRS is waiting for some other element to position itself, as though
"when
TSHTF what we do here won't matter any more".

The Department of Justice may also be "down", or otherwise distracted:
My
lawsuit against the IRS had a hard deadline for the Department of
Justice
last Thursday.  They failed to meet it.  They failed to call me and
request
an extension.  I haven't heard from them.

The IRS being down, if it is down, is a you-bet National Security
Issue.  I
figure the "STUFF" is going to hit the FAN sometime within the next 30
seconds to 30 days.  WACO is being used as nothing but a temporary
distraction, in my view, to keep us from paying attention.

Keep your powder dry.

--
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[CTRL] Weather Control

1999-09-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/weather.cfm

  Weather Control

  THE BAD NEWS IS THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL! THE WORST POSSIBLE NEWS
IS THAT
SCIENTISTS ARE CREATING WARMING, STORMS, AND NATURAL DISASTERS!!

 The United Nations established a global War Crimes Tribunal that
will exercise control over sovereign nations in certain types of
 crimes. Six-Step Attitudinal Change Plan is working here. This is a
huge step to the global government of Antichrist. [Part 1 of 3].



  ARTICLES FROM MASS MEDIA OVER THE YEARS HAVE TALKED BOLDLY ABOUT
WEATHERWEAPONS! FURTHER CONFIRMATION THEY EXIST! We have reported that a
United
Nations treaty is on record prohibiting any nation from using Weather
Weapons against any other nation. Now,
we will review articles that have appeared in the last 20 years boldly
declaring that Weather Weapons do exist
and do work. [Part 2 of 3]

 We have reported that a United Nations treaty is on record
prohibiting any nation from using Weather Weapons against any
 other nation. Now, we will review articles that have appeared in
the last 20 years boldly declaring that Weather Weapons do exist
 and do work. [Part 2 of 3]



  MORE BOLD ARTICLES FROM MASS MEDIA TELLING US ABOUT WEATHER WEAPON
TECHNOLOGY!

 We review still more articles about the technology to control the
weather. You will be stunned to learn how prevalent it is today.
 We conclude with a shocking United Nations pamphlet that ties
weather control into their New World Order Plan! Part 3 of 3.



  CAUSING A MASSIVE FLOODING WITH WEATHER WEAPON TECHNOLOGY

 Now that we have examined firm, irrefutable evidence that Weather
Weapons do exist, let us see how a massive, 500-year flood
 can actually be created, in the exact spot scientists choose.



  UNPRECEDENTED FLOODING IN CHINA

 Weird Weather continues to rear its ugly head, in Communist China.
Once more, we see historically unprecedented storms -
 flooding this time - pummeling mankind. Weather Warfare is a likely
reason.



  CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS IN THE PROGRESS OF WEATHER WARFARE TECHNOLOGY

 When we study the progression of scientific advances that allow
government scientists to control the weather, we can learn much
 about Weather Warfare.



  A TERRIFYING LOOK AT THE CONTROL OF WEATHER WARFARE -- A LOOK AT HAARP

 We shall take a basic look at the technology involved in
controlling the weather. We shall try to take a simple look so you can
 understand a most complex scientific subject.



  LIFE MAGAZINE TAKES NOTICE OF THE WEIRD WEATHER THE PAST TWO YEARS,
BUT THEIR
SOLUTION IS EXTREME TYPICALLY NEW AGE!

 Life Magazine takes note of the terribly weird weather in the past
two years, gives great statistics, and almost takes note of the
 capability to control weather. Yet, their conclusion is almost the
New World Order goal.



  "AND POWER WAS GIVEN TO HIM"

 The Bible is very explicit in its teaching of the rise of
Antichrist and his subsequent domination of all aspects of life on
earth.
 When will his New World Order come to fruition? Why would secular
society as we know it worship a priest-king? What is the
 source of his power and might? Does he actually circumvent the
sovereignty of God? Furthermore, does modern technology give
 any preliminary hints as to his control over the "forces of
nature"? Lastly, how could God allow evil forces to destroy His
 creation? Insights to these and other related questions are
discussed in this article.



Return to Cutting Edge

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[CTRL] Gulf War Syndrome by Captn J Riley

1999-09-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.all-natural.com/riley.html

Gulf War Syndrome

 Biological Warfare Conducted on U.S. Military
Members, and
 Corporate Bio-Genocide Levied on the Planetary
Population

 A Lecture By Captain Joyce Riley in Houston, Texas
on January 15, 1996

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[CTRL] y2k WW3 Martial Law NWO

1999-09-10 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.realtime.net/~dream/news.html
Lots to read with photos.
Nicky

Y2K * WORLD WAR III * MARTIAL LAW * NEW WORLD
   ORDER CRISIS!
INVISIBLE SOLDIERS NOW A REALITY


 There is currently a world takeover attempt being done under the
guise of the United Nations, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
 and many of our world leaders. It's called the New World Order FEMA is
building concentration camps on American soil as we speak. In
  an effort to divert the public it is now being called Globalism by
mainstream media. The current wars in Kosovo and Iraq are part of the
 takeover attempt. The United Nations and NATO are quickly taking over
sovereignty of every country around the world. This takeover
 attempt could take place before January 1, 2000 due to the World War
III * Y2K * Martial Law Crisis. According to unconstitutional U.S.
 laws passed, the United States government does have the right to
declare Martial Law and take the people over if Y2K does happen. The
 United States Constitution will be suspended!  The corrupt give you
the Illusion they are working for peace. They are not!

   FEMA - The Secret Government
Detention Camp Photographs   FEMA -THE U.S.
SHADOW GOVERNMENT

 Proof Martial Law is
Coming! US
knew Pearl Harbor was going to be Attacked

  Department of Defense wants more Martial
Law Preparations

 Ramsey Clark says kosovo is about U.S.
domination New World Order United Nations
Corruption

  The United Nations  United
Nations Vehicles on US
Soil! The UN's New
Corporate Partners

  Radioactive Weapons used by NATO in
Kosovo

   Of course they knew about Y2K all alongJust say
no to Martial LawMartial LawMount
Weather- Primed for Martial Law

   Captain Riley- Gulf War SyndromeUS War Crimes
during the Gulf WarPearl HarborEnd Gulf
War Syndrome Cover-Up

  Project Censored 1998 Top Ten
List   Clinton's Contras- the KLA



   35,000 NUCLEAR WARHEADS ARE READY TO FIRE!

   EVEN FROM SPACE! EKV

One warhead can now kill 7 million
people.

 The Nuclear
NumbersEKV



 SLAVES TO THE CORPORATIONS



  Greedy corporations have completely strangled small business with
their corrupt corporate laws. They have also destroyed the soul of
free enterprise. We should have thousands of car makers
in the U.S. Instead we have three.

   CORPORATE WATCH ADM Pleads Guilty to
Price Fixing of Productshttp://www.realchange.org/



   THE SLAUGHTER OF 6 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR BY THE
   CORRUPT

   Tuberculosis and Aids



Only corrupt people would allow this kind of
tragedy to take place

   Tuberculosis Spreads
Through Crowded City Buses   Epidemic!

   World Without Cancer - The Ultimate Cancer
Conspiracy Amazon.com- A Glance- World Without Cancer - The
Story



   THREE MILLION STARVED IN NORTH KOREA FAMINE SO
   FAR

 Mainstream media has failed miserably covering this ongoing world
tragedy. Almost no live coverage! Research is very hard to come by.
  Is this done by design?

ABC News Reports on the
FamineInternet Resources
on Genocide and Mass Killing



   ARMY SPECIAL FORCES ARE NOW DESCENDING ON
UNKNOWING AMERICAN CITIES WITH LIVE FIRE BLACK
  HELICOPTERS UNDER THE GUISE OF TRAINING.



Two  groups doing this are the nightstalkers and
the delta force.

   black helicopters over america - strikeforce for the new
world order   charlotte mayor protests urban warfare
drills

  The SS in america?-  The nightstalkers
web site



NEW WORLD ORDER CHECKPOINTS ACROSS AMERICA



 These checkpoints are being done under the guise of sobriety checks,
stolen vehicle checks and license checks. Starting to sound like a
police state to you?

   Recent Checkpoints Annoy Area Drivers
Sobriety Checkpoint Upsets Fans Leaving Chiefs Game

   License Checkpoints Returning
Soon   Police Plan DUI

[CTRL] Why TWA 800 was shot Down

1999-09-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

Another theory I have heard was that Henry Kissinger was on Flight 800
and that he was killed but he has 2 doubles.So it may be a good idea to
see if he has changed facial features.Not that his face has a lot of
character anyway. Just to add to the pile of theories.
Nicky


 Original Message 
Subject: [TheEagle-L] Re: Why TWA 800 was shot Down
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:17:23 -0700
From: DC Arneson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can't speak to this, but I have heard, can not confirm,  that the
original plane in this time slot was an El Al 747. During taxi it
developed mechanical problems and had to abort for maintenance. The TWA
bird was next in line. Seems to have a ring of truth to me. Does anybody
have anymore knowledge of this? The Center Tank explosion does not carry
weight in my view. After Waco, does this also need to opened up also?  I
think yes.

Arnie

David Terry wrote:

 Faction 2 info:

 TWA 800 was downed by a U.S. missile because it was carrying
 billions of dollars of counterfeit bearer bonds. These bonds had
 matured and were about to be cashed in. If they had reached their
 destination and had been discovered to be fake, the entire Federal
 Reserve banking system would have been audited, and the American
 people would have discovered that the 10% fractional reserve that
 banks have to have in order to borrow from others to lend to others,
 is based on counterfeit paper.

 Cmdr. William S. Donaldson, USN Retired, has challenged the
 official NTSB position on the cause of the crash of TWA Flight 800
 in a series of letters to James Hall, Chairman of the NTSB between
 April 1997 and today. Over the past two years, Cmdr. Donaldson
 has been working with other Retired Aviation Professionals, including
 some previous crash investigators as well as persons inside the NTSB
 investigation itself. Cmdr. Donaldson has extensive experience as a
 Naval crash investigator and he and others have concluded that the
 NTSB's explanation of the Center Wing Tank explosion is not
 credible. With the help of these other concerned aviation
 professionals, Cmdr. Donaldson has produced an extensive report on
 the cause of the crash. This report was delivered to the Aviation
 Subcommittee of the House of Representatives was released on July
 16th, 1998. Recently uncovered information now shows that
 TWA Flight 800 could have been shot down by one or more
 shoulder-fired missiles.

 Note:

 Faction 2, as noted, is a loosely woven group of intelligence
 operatives from many different countries who oppose a New World
 Order under the United Nations and the international bankers.
 Operated by U.S. Naval Intelligence.

 It was them that backed President Bush Against the Grand Canyon
 and warned about his New World Order.

 The result was the Tailhook Scandal that caused these individuals,
 who were framed, to be removed from the WhiteHouse.

 DT

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Re: [CTRL] blue beam

1999-09-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://eagle-net.org/groomwatch/
Norio Hayakawa keeps up to date on this. I posted  3 posts on  7 Sept on  this to
CTRL.

Regards, Nicky

earthman wrote:

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 Hi guys,
 I have been asked about the blue beam project. What I have is not much, so
 does anyone have a decent URL about it?
 Thanks
 Peter
 We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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Re: [CTRL] NWO power underground in Antarctica?

1999-09-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Hi,

There is plenty on Nazis in Antactica on this site. Branton wrote 90 pages on it
in the first link The Omega File.
There are also other bits on the rest of the page. Pete says that when the earth
does a pole shift they'll end up on the equator. I did have an article on an
Australian site about the super computer in Antarctica that was linked to a couple
of surveillance computers in Australia. One was in Pine Gap. Will try to see if
its still around.

Regards, Nicky

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, this is information that many of us know already, but it seems that the
 author wants to paint a picture of the "Nazi infiltration" as being done on
 the sly and without the consent or desire of the institutions that have been
 so penetrated.  The allies, through their banks originally funded the Germans
 leading up to and during the war.  These same people and many others helped
 Nazi's escape Europe after the war was over, and secret agendas were
 promulgated to put "ex"-Nazi's into positions of importance not only in
 intelligence operations but also in technical and scientific fields.  It is
 in line with the mentality of the people who promoted Nazi ideology
 (undercover of course).  UFO Text Files


http://www.trufax.org/research2/textfile.html


 The Omega File is the latest, most comprehensive work from Branton.

 THE OMEGA FILE: Greys, Nazis, Underground Bases, and the New World Order

 The DULCE Book, by Branton, covers the secret underground genetics laboratory
 beneath Dulce, NM.

 The DULCE Book, by BRANTON

 The New Denver Airport, Illustrated, by Alex Christopher, photography by 'DK'.

 PANDORA'S BOX

 Mystical Encyclopedia describes the many different types of aliens, people, and
 places.

 MYSTICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA, A-Q
 MYSTICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA, R-Z

 Timeline: Past and Future discusses major events in the bible timeline,
 prophecies from various sources, possible alien contact and settlements, and
 other items.

 TIMELINE: PAST AND FUTURE

 Star System Information

 STAR SYSTEMS

 Remote Viewing the Grey Collective, by Branton

 RV-ING THE GREY COLLECTIVE

 These files, from Bob Drake, describe the Philadelphia Experiment and it's
 relationship to the Aliens.

 THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT, PART 1THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT, PART 2

 This file has more on the USS Eldridge, now located in Greece.

 THE CURRENT WHEREABOUTS OF THE USS ELDRIDGE

 These files were sent by Bruce Walton, a friend of Branton.

 THE UNDERGROUND NAZI INVASION OF THE UNITED STATES

 PART 1  PART 2  PART 3  PART 4  PART 5  PART 6  PART 7  PART 8  PART 9  PART 10
 PART 11  PART 12  PART 13  PART 14  PART 15  PART 16  PART 17  PART 18  PART 19
 PART 20  PART 21  PART 22  PART 23  PART 24  PART 25  PART 26  PART 27  PART 28
 PART 29  PART 30  PART 31  PART 32  PART 33  PART 34  PART 35  PART 36  PART 37
 PART 38  PART 39  PART 40  PART 41  PART 42  PART 43  PART 44  PART 45  PART 46
 PART 47  PART 48  PART 49  PART 50  PART 51  PART 52  PART 53  PART 54  PART 55
 PART 56   PART 57  PART 58

 To contact Branton, click here.

 This file has more information on Nazis and the New World Order.

 THE ELKHORN DOCUMENT

 The following is a speech about underground bases and the Black Budget, by Phil
 Schneider, a former Area-51 employee who was recently murdered.

 UNDERGROUND BASES AND THE BLACK BUDGET

 PROPHETIC INSIGHTS: Event Analysis 8/13/96, by Gordo Adachi

 LIFE ON MARS: Why now?

 The Resnick Interview with Peter Kawaja and Ex-NSA Agent Joe Jordan

 DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES

 Salem New Age Center Newsletter describes the opening of the Stargate on Earth.

 SALEM NEW AGE CENTER NEWSLETTER, VOLUME 2 NUMBER 6

 The next series of articles are excerpts from "Undegroun Bases and Tunnels", by
 Richard Sauder, Ph.D.

 NUCLEAR SUBTERRENES
 NUCLEAR SUBSELENE TUNNELING MACHINES ON THE MOON?

 The next article is an excerpt from "Cosmic Top Secret," by William Hamilton
 III.

 DULCE AND OTHER UNDERGROUND BASES AND TUNNELS

 The next files are condensed from Robert Morning Sky's, "Terra Papers: The
 Hidden History of Planet Earth"

 INTRODUCTION
 THE STORY OF MAN'S CREATION
 FORMS OF CONTROL MANKIND'S HOPE: ROYAL BLOOD
 OVERTHROW ATTEMPTS -- PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE

 The Krill files were written by Val Valarian of Leading Edge Research. Some
 claim it is disinformation. Others believe it is very a very accurate picture of
 what is happening both above and beneath the Earth. Do the pieces fit within the
 puzzle? You may decide for yourself.

 THE KRILL FILES

 This document describes the many types of aliens interacting with humans on
 Earth.

 ALIEN ENCYCLOPEDIA - ILLUSTRATED

 The following article, by Dragonbane, supports the theory that the Greys
 descended from Cetacean-like lifeforms.

 AN ALIEN HARVEST: EVIDENCE OF GREY ORIGINS AND REASONS FOR GREY ABDUCTIONS

 Human mutilations are an unfortunate reality connected to certain malevolent
 aliens.

 THE HUMAN MUTILATION FACTOR

 These files, "The Secrets of 

[CTRL] US Complicity in Timor

1999-09-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.thenation.com/issue/990927/0927nairn.shtml



 September 7, 1999

 US Complicity in Timor

 Click here for background and related information.

 E-mail this story to a friend.

 Click here for a press release for this story.

 While the Indonesian military's thugs continue their rampage in
East Timor, most foreign reporters have fled the
 country. As of September 7, frequent Nation contributor and
award-winning journalist Allan Nairn was believed to be
 the only US reporter still there. Nairn left the besieged UN
compound and walked the streets of Dili, where he hid in
 abandoned houses as he observed troops and militia burning and
looting. Nairn has been writing about the troubles
 there for years. In 1991, after being badly beaten by Indonesian
troops while witnessing the massacre of several hundred
 East Timorese, he was declared a "threat to national security" and
banned from the country. He has entered several
 times illegally since then. In his most recent Nation dispatch from
East Timor, on March 30, 1998, Nairn disclosed the
 continuing US military training of Indonesian troops implicated in
the torture and killing of civilians. He filed this
 report by satellite telephone to The Nation through Amy Goodman,
host of Pacifica Radio's Democracy Now!

 --The Editors



 Dili, East Timor

 It is by now clear to most East Timorese and a few Westerners still
left here that the militias are a wing of the TNI/ABRI,
 the Indonesian armed forces. Recently, for example, I was picked up
by militiamen who turned out to be working for a
 uniformed colonel of the National Police. [Editors' note: The
Indonesian government has denied any connection between
 the militias and either the police or the military.] But there is
another important political fact that is not known here or in the
 international community. Although the US government has publicly
reprimanded the Indonesian Army for the militias, the
 US military has, behind the scenes and contrary to Congressional
intent, been backing the TNI.

 US officials say that this past April, as militia terror escalated,
a top US officer was dispatched to give a message to Jakarta.
 Adm. Dennis Blair, the US Commander in Chief of the Pacific, leader
of all US military forces in the Pacific region, was sent
 to meet with General Wiranto, the Indonesian armed forces
commander, on April 8. Blair's mission, as one senior US official
 told me, was to tell Wiranto that the time had come to shut the
militia operation down. The gravity of the meeting was
 heightened by the fact that two days before, the militias had
committed a horrific machete massacre at the Catholic church
 in Liquiça, Timor. YAYASAN HAK, a Timorese human rights group,
estimated that many dozens of civilians were
 murdered. Some of the victims' flesh was reportedly stuck to the
walls of the church and a pastor's house. But Admiral
 Blair, fully briefed on Liquiça, quickly made clear at the meeting
with Wiranto that he was there to reassure the TNI chief.
 According to a classified cable on the meeting, circulating at
Pacific Command headquarters in Hawaii, Blair, rather than
 telling Wiranto to shut the militias down, instead offered him a
series of promises of new US assistance.

 According to the cable, which was drafted by Col. Joseph Daves, US
military attaché in Jakarta, Admiral Blair "told the
 armed forces chief that he looks forward to the time when [the army
will] resume its proper role as a leader in the region. He
 invited General Wiranto to come to Hawaii as his guest in
conjunction with the next round of bilateral defense discussions
 in the July-August '99 time frame. He said Pacific command is
prepared to support a subject matter expert exchange for
 doctrinal development. He expects that approval will be granted to
send a small team to provide technical assistance to
 police and...selected TNI personnel on crowd control measures."

 Admiral Blair at no point told Wiranto to stop the militia
operation, going the other way by inviting him to be his personal
 guest in Hawaii. Blair told Wiranto that the United States would
initiate this new riot-control training for the Indonesian
 armed forces. This was quite significant, because it would be the
first new US training program for the Indonesian military
 since 1992. Although State Department officials had been assured in
writing that only police and no soldiers would be part
 of this training, Blair told Wiranto that, yes, soldiers could be
included. So although Blair was sent in with the mission of
 telling Wiranto to shut the militias down, he did the opposite.

 Indonesian officers I spoke to said Wiranto was delighted by the
meeting. They took this as a green light to proceed with
 the militia operation. The only reference in 

[CTRL] Yeltsin Linked To Bribe Scheme

1999-09-12 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: Yeltsin Linked To Bribe Scheme


Yeltsin Linked To Bribe Scheme
 Swiss Probe Finds Firm Made Payoffs To President,
Other Russian
 Officials

  By Sharon LaFraniere
  Washington Post Foreign Service
  Wednesday, September 8, 1999; Page A01

  GENEVA, Sept. 7—A Swiss investigation has uncovered
construction company that received major Kremlin
contracts paid tens of thousands
of dollars in bills on credit cards in the names of
President Boris Yeltin and his two
daughters, according to law enforcement authorities.

The contractor, a Swiss firm called Mabetex, also
provided $1 million that was
transferred to a Hungarian bank account several years
ago for Yeltsin's benefit, the
 authorities said.

In all, Mabetex made between $10 million and $15
million in payoffs to high-ranking
 Russian officials, including Yeltsin, and their
families, according to one official
familiar with the inquiry.

The investigation has been in and out of the news for
more than a year, but the size
 of the alleged payoffs to Yeltsin and his family was
not previously disclosed. A
 spate of allegations in recent weeks of high-level
Russian financial corruption has
 caused political storms in Russia and the United
States. In a separate
money-laundering inquiry, revealed last month, U.S.
prosecutors are investigating
billions of dollars that flowed from Russia through
accounts at Bank of New York.

Mabetex's top official, Behgjet Pacolli, has denied
paying any bribes. Yeltsin's press
 spokesman also said neither the president nor his
family engaged in any wrongdoing.

The investigation into Mabetex has been overseen in
Bern by Swiss prosecutor Carla del Ponte, who is resigning next week to
become
the new U.N. war crimes prosecutor in The Hague.

 The Swiss have been aggressively pursuing a
money-laundering case against Pavel
Borodin, the Russian official who managed Mabetex's
Kremlin contracts and has
denied any wrongdoing. Investigators have determined
that Mabetex set up bank
 accounts for Borodin's benefit in the Swiss cities of
Lugano and Geneva.

 But the Swiss money-laundering inquiry can bear fruit
only if Russian officials
 prosecute Borodin for corruption. The Swiss are
relying on the Russians to show
that the money that went to Borodin's accounts came
from improper sources.

 "The Russians have the main investigation," Del Ponte
said in an interview today.
"We hope they can go on and complete it."

However, there is a widespread perception in Moscow
that Yeltsin's government is
 impeding the Russian side of the investigation.
Earlier this year, Yeltsin suspended
 chief Russian prosecutor Yuri Skuratov, who was
investigating the case. The
suspension came just a few days after Del Ponte
described the links between
Mabetex and Yeltsin in a telephone conversation with
Skuratov, according to knowledgeable sources.

 The Mabetex probe has also been slowed by the recent
transfer of the principal
Russian investigator on the case.

 Swiss investigators uncovered the credit cards issued
to Yeltsin and his two
daughters while looking for payments from Mabetex to
Borodin, officials said.
Mabetex's records showed the company made regular
credit card payments over two
to three years to a Swiss bank. Investigators later
determined the cards had been for
Yeltsin and his daughters, the officials said. It is
not clear what the credit cards were
 used to purchase.

 In Moscow, suspended prosecutor Skuratov said that
he'd been told by Swiss
 authorities that Mabetex spent a total of 15 million
Swiss francs (about $10 million)
 on bribes to high-ranking officials, including
Yeltsin, and their families.

In an interview with the newspaper Versia, Skuratov
called for a full investigation
 and raised anew the question of credit cards allegedly
given to Yeltsin and his
 daughters by Mabetex president Pacolli.

 In a separate television interview tonight, Skuratov
said he was told in March by the
 Swiss investigators that Pacolli's bank accounts were
used to "fill the credit cards of
Yelena Okulova, Tatyana Dyachenko and Boris
Nikolayevich [Yeltsin] himself."
Okulova and Dyachenko are Yeltsin's daughters;
Dyachenko is a Kremlin aide.

He said the Swiss prosecutor, del Ponte, "gave this
figure, which in their opinion
 was the money spent by Mr. Pacolli to bribe the
Russian officials."

 In Washington, three senior U.S. officials briefed a
handful of reporters today on
 how and when they learned of the separate Bank of New
York probe, saying that
they knew few details until the case became public
last month.

 The State Department first heard about the movement of
huge amounts of money from Russia to the Bank of New York in March,
officials said. Authorities in another
   country brought the case to their attention and
suggested that Russian organized crime might be involved. At the time,
there was no
suggestion that any U.S. or 

[CTRL] [Fwd: 200,000 Year Old Female Baby found in MOON Rocks]

1999-09-13 Thread Nicola Molloy

 -Caveat Lector-

200,000 Year Old Female Baby found in MOON Rocks

http://www.colinstevenson.free-online.co.uk/ufoets.htm

In 1969 Apollo 11 astronauts brought back what appeared to be an
aborted babyin a rock that was found during their historic expedition.
For 24 years, NASAkept the baby's discovery from the public. The story
finally came to light when South African geologist Dr. Richard Call
showed newsmen the baby's preserved remains. Dr. Call told the
reporters the shriveled fetus had been smuggled to him by a concerned
NASA lab technician.Dr. Call took the fetus to his laboratory in
Durban, South Africa, and has spent the last six years studying it.
'Based onour studies of this baby, we've been able to draw some
stunning conclusions about the moon, about the earth and - most
importantly -about human evolution';

# The fetus is human, female, six inches tall and approximately 200,000
years old.

# Scans of the fetus' brain and her cranium size indicate that it's
intelligence was even higher than that of modern man.

Therefore this is proof that ET's can travel backwards and forewards in
time and space and have visited the Moon at least 200,000 years ago and
havealso proberbly been visiting Earth also for at least this length of
time. Itis also proof of their human cross-breeding and abduction
programme. I wonder what other secrets NASA and the Governments of the
World might be keeping from us?

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Re: [CTRL] KGB Defector Tells of Soviet Bugging Operation in U.S.

1999-09-15 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Hi Das,

If I were a Russian spy still waiting to be paid and anticipating the y2k
unpreparedness, I think I'd be out of there as quickly as poss. Winter coming. It
wouldn't surprise me if there was an exodus of spies from Russia before Dec 99.
Money and security a big drawcard. They say even Yeltzin is bribed. Did I post
that one here? Even just to get away from the mafia is a good enough excuse to be
out of there.  I think Russia is decentralised now as apparently according to
Clare Sterling the Russian mafia has taken ove rall the mafias now and have made
their headquarters ther enow. They all meet and carve up the world in areas.
Supposed to be running US now. Clare wrote that they achieved more in 2 years in
US what the Italian mafia took 100 years to build - university educated.

But then again a disinformation agent could be an even better option, as they are
all apparently all in it together (NSA, KGB,Interpol, Brit military)  with the
L.U.C.I.D surveillence technology.

May be a case of all Freemasons around the world loyal to each other and the rest
non - aligned Freemasons. Maybe even Christians,  Jews, Nazi/Aryans (make that 6th
root race) . I think some people will be loyal to race or religion before country
easily, no matter where. Dr John Coleman says the ADL, actually run by a bigger
boss, recruits Jews around the world as unpaid spies. The Vatican would have the
Catholics. People of European royal origin could be spies for their ancestral
lines. etc So people could be double agents this way. Loyal to country officially
but passing on stuff to those who they believe should know also. How's that old
lady in UK photocopying nuclear papers for the Russians for 40 years. She
justified it by saying they should have a chance too.

A thought anyway,
Nicky

Das GOAT wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 99-09-14 03:27:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mitrokhin ... defected to Britain in 1992 after being turned away by the CIA

 Why?  As just another confabulating songbird seeking cushy asylum in the US,
 I'd bet.
 From what I've read so far of Mitrokhin's "revelations," he's a de facto
 disinformation agent for the West, painting the CIA in terms tailor-made for
 the CIA's own PR "spin."
 He claims to be ex-KGB, but in the spy biz, he might actually have been a
 double agent in place, a CIA mole in the Kremlin, just biding his time before
 he could return "home."
 Or, just as possibly, he's not old KGB but new "Russian Mafia," peddling
 boogeyman stories calculated to make the US think the Russkis were/are
 cleverer than we think  ...
 Cui bono?  There's been a stampede of ex-Soviet officers lately whose
 credibility is nil --as often the case with "defectors"-- and no surprise,
 they all seem to line up behind has-been Cold Warriors, Fuehrer-wannabees
 like Singlaub: the Bush Octopus crowd.

 Save it for The Weekly World News, Vasili.


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[CTRL] Blue beam holographic images

1999-09-15 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: FW: FW: [Fwd: Re Bl. Be.]
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:05:45 -0500
From: "watchman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Nicola Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Nicky:

I just got this from Ron.  Sounds like a good offer;  go for it.

Dick

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, September 15, 1999 11:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: FW: [Fwd: Re Bl. Be.]

Hey Watchman!
I have rec'd a 90 min audio tape the Serge made about Blue Beam. I will
copy
and send it to any corner of the earth, no charge. It has the 4 points
of
Blue Beam.
What I will need,is the address of who wishes it. This is my way of
thanking
my friend Serge
(Canadian Journalist who was investigating)
for giving his life for us. He states on the tape he will be
killed.
You have my permission to give out the below my friend...
Ron W. Wheeler
875 NW 55 th St.
Redmond, Oregon 97756
Ph. Voice/fax 1-541-923-4192

Take care friend,
Ron

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