[newbie] Internet connection
Hi All Have a new issue for the developers. I performed the following action: Physically connected computer to Internet by eathernet on RJ45 port, booted computer, browsed web, disconnected physicall eathernet at RJ45 to connect to hub, and lost internet connection ability. Attempted to reconnect computer to internet by connection wizard, connect to internet, connection refused. Rebooted computer. Computer rebooted WITHOUT internet connection. Attempted to connect to internet by connection wizard. Connection refused. Since this is a test box, with NO data on it, and I am busy at other items placed Mandrake disk in compute and did upgrade. Rebooted computer. No internet connection. Attempted internet connection by connection wizard with NEGATIVE results. Reinstalled system. easier than trying to figure out issue and allows me to work on other items while disk spins. 15 minutes of my time usage. System back on line. Question why can one NOT disconnect the eathernet RJ45 and reconnect it and still have internet connection or be able to make connection by connection wizard after disconnect RJ45 cable? Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection
SOTL wrote: Hi All Have a new issue for the developers. I performed the following action: Physically connected computer to Internet by eathernet on RJ45 port, booted computer, browsed web, disconnected physicall eathernet at RJ45 to connect to hub, and lost internet connection ability. Attempted to reconnect computer to internet by connection wizard, connect to internet, connection refused. Rebooted computer. Computer rebooted WITHOUT internet connection. Attempted to connect to internet by connection wizard. Connection refused. Since this is a test box, with NO data on it, and I am busy at other items placed Mandrake disk in compute and did upgrade. Rebooted computer. No internet connection. Attempted internet connection by connection wizard with NEGATIVE results. Reinstalled system. easier than trying to figure out issue and allows me to work on other items while disk spins. 15 minutes of my time usage. System back on line. Question why can one NOT disconnect the eathernet RJ45 and reconnect it and still have internet connection or be able to make connection by connection wizard after disconnect RJ45 cable? Frank More information is needed here. How are you connecting to the Internet? What is on the other end of the RJ45 cable? Are you using PPPoE or PPPoA to connect, or standard Ethernet? If you try an connect to the Internet using PPPoE, or PPPoA, and you are connecting to a router that is set up for a normal Ethernet connection, it will always fail. I think that may be what is going on here. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Internet connection problems
Here in Cyprus, an ADSL line is provided by the only phone operator, and the service is provided by both this company and others. To log on, I need to go to the phone company's site, where I select my service provider (an Active-X setup). Any mention of linux to support elicits the response type in winipcfg, what does it say? Every couple of weeks or so, the connection doesn't. The machine has been running, I might have checked email a couple of minutes before or be downloading a file when it stops. Until now, I have gone into Windows, started Mozilla and connected to a site straight away - no need to logon. I then return to Linux and carry on. Unfortunately, its now happened about 15 times over the past 2 days. Provider says they've done nothing. I've added no software/hardware over the past week. I'm using static DNS settings over an ethernet connection. I've also booted an old laptop from a Knoppix CD and (using the same modem) had the same problem. Any advice please? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.
On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem. It may be that one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP addresses, but is returning something. (No responce form a name server would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus however long the next one takes...) Mikkel When I do /etc/resolv.comf from root, I get a message saying bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied How can I see what it contains? The lack of connection is not a time out issue; that is an error message is returned immediately rather than after a pause. I have bind installed, but not tmdns. Are there any other programs which may be causing conflicts? Thanks, Collin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.
/etc/resolv.conf is a configuration file, not an exectutable. What is in it? -Original Message- From: Collin White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 26, 2004 9:31 AM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue. On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem. It may be that one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP addresses, but is returning something. (No responce form a name server would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus however long the next one takes...) Mikkel When I do /etc/resolv.comf from root, I get a message saying bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied How can I see what it contains? The lack of connection is not a time out issue; that is an error message is returned immediately rather than after a pause. I have bind installed, but not tmdns. Are there any other programs which may be causing conflicts? Thanks, Collin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.
Collin White wrote: On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem. It may be that one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP addresses, but is returning something. (No responce form a name server would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus however long the next one takes...) Mikkel When I do /etc/resolv.comf from root, I get a message saying bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied How can I see what it contains? You do not want to try and run it - you want to look at it. Try cat /etc/resolv.conf instead. The lack of connection is not a time out issue; that is an error message is returned immediately rather than after a pause. I have bind installed, but not tmdns. Are there any other programs which may be causing conflicts? Thanks, Collin You probably want to remove bind. Unless you are running a local network, and have a lot of machines on it, you do not need it. It can be set up to cache lookups for you, but there are better packages out there to to that. If you have it running on your system, but do not have it configured properly, it will cause the kind of problems you are having. Try removing bind, and see if that solves your problems. If it does, then you may want to reed up on caching name servers, and see if you need one. If so, then come back to the list for advice. We can point you to a few package, depending on what your needs are. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.
At 10:31 AM 12/26/2004, you wrote: On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem. It may be that one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP addresses, but is returning something. (No responce form a name server would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus however long the next one takes...) Mikkel When I do /etc/resolv.comf from root, I get a message saying bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied How can I see what it contains? The lack of connection is not a time out issue; that is an error message is returned immediately rather than after a pause. I have bind installed, but not tmdns. Are there any other programs which may be causing conflicts? Thanks, Collin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Well, looks like you weren't logged in as root and should have done either 'more /etc/resolv.conf' or 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'. I'd ping the nameservers in that file and make sure they're talking at least. Dennis Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #362232 Not yet M$ free-but getting closer -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.
At 10:31 AM 12/26/2004, you wrote: On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem. It may be that one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP addresses, but is returning something. (No responce form a name server would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus however long the next one takes...) Mikkel When I do /etc/resolv.comf from root, I get a message saying bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied How can I see what it contains? The lack of connection is not a time out issue; that is an error message is returned immediately rather than after a pause. I have bind installed, but not tmdns. Are there any other programs which may be causing conflicts? Thanks, Collin Well, looks like you weren't logged in as root and should have done either 'more /etc/resolv.conf' or 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'. I'd ping the nameservers in that file and make sure they're talking at least. Dennis Duffner Even as root, you would get the same error message, because resolv.conf is not executable. But it is readable by all users. It has to be, so that programs can get the name server information. (Netscape, Mozilla, and I believe Firefox access the file directly.) From other information in the thread, he has bind installed. It is probably the first name server, and it is erroring out. Probably not configured correctly. The second would work because it tryes the next name server in the list. URLs from the same domain work because the web browser already knows the IP address of the server. (Best guess from the information given so far...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Internet connection issue.
I have recently done an install of Discovery 10.1, and had accessed the Internet for the install with no problems. After realizing that I was missing a few things from my install, I ran through the install tab on the control center and installed the bits I had been missing. However, now my Internet connection is a bit awkward. It still connects, but the initial attempt seems to be blocked. When I try to surf the web via Konqueror, each initial time I attempt to access a given domain, I get a message saying connection to host x is broken. When I hit the reload button, the site connects fine. Following links within the same domain works as it should but again if I try to connect to a different domain, I get the same response. Aside from the web, I get the same result when I attempt to connect to my mail server to either send or download mail, when I ftp or when I attempt to use the mandrakeonline configuration in my task bar. I had initially thought it was a problem with shorewall, but after disabling it, I found no change. Any advice or suggestions would be grately appreciate. Thanks, Collin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection issue.
I have recently done an install of Discovery 10.1, and had accessed the Internet for the install with no problems. After realizing that I was missing a few things from my install, I ran through the install tab on the control center and installed the bits I had been missing. However, now my Internet connection is a bit awkward. It still connects, but the initial attempt seems to be blocked. When I try to surf the web via Konqueror, each initial time I attempt to access a given domain, I get a message saying connection to host x is broken. When I hit the reload button, the site connects fine. Following links within the same domain works as it should but again if I try to connect to a different domain, I get the same response. Aside from the web, I get the same result when I attempt to connect to my mail server to either send or download mail, when I ftp or when I attempt to use the mandrakeonline configuration in my task bar. I had initially thought it was a problem with shorewall, but after disabling it, I found no change. Any advice or suggestions would be grately appreciate. Thanks, Collin What does /etc/resolv.conf look like? Did you by chance install tmdns when you were adding packages? This sounds like a DNS problem. It may be that one of the name servers in resolv.conf is not returning valid IP addresses, but is returning something. (No responce form a name server would resultiung in a delay of about 90 seconds while it times out, plus however long the next one takes...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection upgrade. Mandrake 10 Official
I am thinking of upgrading from a dial-up connection to Blueyonder Broadband (a UK provider) running Mandrake 10 Official and wonder if I will have any configuration problems? Anyone with any experience of this? TIA, Simon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Connection upgrade. Mandrake 10 Official
I use NTL cable in the UK and I have no problems at all with MDK 10. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of simon Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection upgrade. Mandrake 10 Official I am thinking of upgrading from a dial-up connection to Blueyonder Broadband (a UK provider) running Mandrake 10 Official and wonder if I will have any configuration problems? Anyone with any experience of this? TIA, Simon. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection upgrade. Mandrake 10 Official
simon wrote: I am thinking of upgrading from a dial-up connection to Blueyonder Broadband (a UK provider) running Mandrake 10 Official and wonder if I will have any configuration problems? Anyone with any experience of this? I'm with NTL and when I changed, Mandrake picked up the box as new hardware straight away and configured everything for me. I was straight on the net. You'll have an easier time of it if you can use an ethernet modem rather than USB. Can Blueyonder provide/support this? If not, things may get a bit complicated, although I'm sure people here will be able to help -- Graham Watkins Don't be lucid and ironic; people will turn this against you to show that you aren't a nice person. - Albert Camus Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection upgrade. Mandrake 10 Official
On Thursday 29 Jul 2004 18:40, Graham Watkins wrote: I'm with NTL and when I changed, Mandrake picked up the box as new hardware straight away and configured everything for me. I was straight on the net. You'll have an easier time of it if you can use an ethernet modem rather than USB. Can Blueyonder provide/support this? If not, things may get a bit complicated, although I'm sure people here will be able to help Thanks for this info and a thankyou to Tony Sykes for his input as well. Simon. -- Registered Linux user number 359744. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Internet connection problems with 9.1 and Open Office Writer won't start.
Hi Y'all, This weekend I finally convinced friends of mine that a Linux installation on their computer was a good idea and installed 9.1 for them. (First time I'd done this as I'm still using 9.) The actual installation went well but connecting to the internet doesn't work as this particular computer has 2 modems: an internal one possibly a winmodem, possibly just broken, and an external Hayes V90 voicemodem which usually works well with Linux (I know because it used to be mine). When I tried to set up the internet connection in Mandrake Control Centre, there was no response from either modem but harddrake appears only to have detected the internal card (hp56 I think). Would I be right in thinking that creating a symbolic link from /dev/ttyS0 (to which the external Hayes is connected) to /dev/modem would enable the system to find the correct modem and hopefully solve the problem? The other problem was that Open Office Writer wouldn't start - the splash screen came up and the hourglass on the toolbar turned for a bit, but then . nothing. Anybody know what the command would be to start it from the command line so error messages can be seen , or which log might contain info about this? Your views and any suggestions would be appreciated. It's the first time I've managed to convince someone else to run a Linux box and I'd hate to see them turned off the idea because of these basic problems. Cheers, -- Graham Watkins On the whole, I preferred cats to women because cats seldom if ever used the word relationship.(Kinky Friedman - Greenwich Killing Time) To reply, remove _die_spammer from address. Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection problems with 9.1 and Open Office Writer won't start.
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:17, Graham Watkins wrote: Hi Y'all, This weekend I finally convinced friends of mine that a Linux installation on their computer was a good idea and installed 9.1 for them. (First time I'd done this as I'm still using 9.) The actual installation went well but connecting to the internet doesn't work as this particular computer has 2 modems: an internal one possibly a winmodem, possibly just broken, and an external Hayes V90 voicemodem which usually works well with Linux (I know because it used to be mine). When I tried to set up the internet connection in Mandrake Control Centre, there was no response from either modem but harddrake appears only to have detected the internal card (hp56 I think). Would I be right in thinking that creating a symbolic link from /dev/ttyS0 (to which the external Hayes is connected) to /dev/modem would enable the system to find the correct modem and hopefully solve the problem? harddrake doesn't detect my external modem but it works fine. I think the problem is the network setup in MCC is broken in 9.1. Edit the files by hand: /etc/sysconfig/network add the following line: GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 if the following line exists, you can delete that line: GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.x.x Restart the network with: # service network restart The other problem was that Open Office Writer wouldn't start - the splash screen came up and the hourglass on the toolbar turned for a bit, but then . nothing. Anybody know what the command would be to start it from the command line so error messages can be seen , or which log might contain info about this? You can start openoffice from console with: $ /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice I recall having this problem at some stage (long ago) so it will pay to kill any soffice.bin processes that may be running before trying to start openoffice. Your views and any suggestions would be appreciated. It's the first time I've managed to convince someone else to run a Linux box and I'd hate to see them turned off the idea because of these basic problems. Agreed. And good one!, another convert... Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet connection
Title: Message I just recently installed Mandrake 9.1, and let me say I enjoy using it much more than Windows XP. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't switch sooner. My question. When I was running windows XP, I was getting download speeds maxing out at around 250k. Now with Linux I regularly see download speeds around 300-350k. How can this be? Is it just a coincidence?
Re: [newbie] Internet connection
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:30, Clevenger, Dave wrote: I just recently installed Mandrake 9.1, and let me say I enjoy using it much more than Windows XP. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't switch sooner. Been there, done that. Not with XP but W98. My question. When I was running windows XP, I was getting download speeds maxing out at around 250k. Now with Linux I regularly see download speeds around 300-350k. How can this be? Is it just a coincidence? No. It is intended to do this. M$ has coded its TCP-stack like bullocks with all kinds of overhead in it. TCP is native to Unix and Linux, not something bolted on at the bottom later. I experienced a similar speedboost when I was running ISDN (6K/sec turned into 8.5K/sec) and friends on modems report increased speed also. So rejoice that you turned to Linux. Paul -- Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for it. -Henry David Thoreau http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:30:31 -0400 Clevenger, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just recently installed Mandrake 9.1, and let me say I enjoy using it much more than Windows XP. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't switch sooner. My question. When I was running windows XP, I was getting download speeds maxing out at around 250k. Now with Linux I regularly see download speeds around 300-350k. How can this be? Is it just a coincidence? One of my lovers is on linux and she told me that her ISP caps the d/l throttles it somehow if you're on windows thru the modem itself, irrc. yet under linux that won't work. maybe that is the case here? Pinkly Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing / SSH / FTP / Shorewall Probelms.
Hiya, Thanks for the help on the previous supject, but my problems are still not solved :/ I changed to Drake 9.1 because it had a newer Kernal, and I as hoping that some of the conection sharing glitches where solved, but alas they are not. Derek, Yr Idea seemed the best, and I am presuming with ACCEPT net fw tcp ssh that will alllow people to SSH in from other ip addy's. The problem I am having is localy on my LAN (allthough that may have solved one future problem as my reason for going to linux is remote configuration when away from the office) I tryed adding ACCEPT loc fw tcp ssh Presuming that would allow the local ip range to access the SSH server, but it didnt. Its locally that i am despearing over at the moment, after the changes to shorewall and the restart it accepted the changes to /etc/shorewall/rules but it still wouldnt let me SSH in :( - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing / SSH / FTP / Shorewall Probelms. Unfortunately the mandrake firewall GUI s not very smart. Easiest way to sort it out is use the GUI to set up Internet connection sharing, and then do not touch the GUI any more. Instead use either webmin or edit the config files by hand to set up shorewall. I prefer hand editing because there is lots of explanatory text in the files. Edit /etc/shorewall/rules to add ssh access from outside the firewall add a line ACCEPT net fw tcp ssh then restart shorewall with shorewall restart HTH derek On Monday 26 May 2003 4:26 pm, |nSaNe wrote: Hiya, I have recently ditched my 2k server and installed Mandrake, this is mainly for a learning thing, but if all works wel then it will be my server on a pern basis. Now before installing internet connection sharing I could SSH to the system, this is of upmost importance for me as the machine is tucked away in the corner and it would be a nightmare to have to actually go to it every time i needed to make a change. however after installing Internet sharing, i cant FTP or SSH to the machine. When i went into MCC security firewall and enabled all (test wise) it killed and disabled the internet sharing. So i enabled the internet sharing, but it didnt enable. the only was i could get it working again, was to re-confgure Internet sharing, but then it locked me out of SSH / FTP again :( Please help from a very very frustrated Mandrake newbie. Lee. -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing / SSH / FTP / Shorewall Probelms.
On Tuesday 27 May 2003 4:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, Thanks for the help on the previous supject, but my problems are still not solved :/ I changed to Drake 9.1 because it had a newer Kernal, and I as hoping that some of the conection sharing glitches where solved, but alas they are not. Derek, Yr Idea seemed the best, and I am presuming with ACCEPT net fw tcp ssh that will alllow people to SSH in from other ip addy's. The problem I am having is localy on my LAN (allthough that may have solved one future problem as my reason for going to linux is remote configuration when away from the office) I tryed adding ACCEPT loc fw tcp ssh Presuming that would allow the local ip range to access the SSH server, but it didnt. Its locally that i am despearing over at the moment, after the changes to shorewall and the restart it accepted the changes to /etc/shorewall/rules but it still wouldnt let me SSH in :( SNIP The line would be ACCEPT loc fw tcp ssh if your local ethernet zone was called 'loc', but the default for shorewall in Mandrake is to call the local zone 'masq'. You can confirm what the zones are called, and which interface belongs to which zone by looking at /etc/shorewall/zones and /etc/shorewall/interfaces derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing / SSH / FTP / Shorewall Probelms.
Derek you are a absolute lifesaver ;) - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing / SSH / FTP / Shorewall Probelms. On Tuesday 27 May 2003 4:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, Thanks for the help on the previous supject, but my problems are still not solved :/ I changed to Drake 9.1 because it had a newer Kernal, and I as hoping that some of the conection sharing glitches where solved, but alas they are not. Derek, Yr Idea seemed the best, and I am presuming with ACCEPT net fw tcp ssh that will alllow people to SSH in from other ip addy's. The problem I am having is localy on my LAN (allthough that may have solved one future problem as my reason for going to linux is remote configuration when away from the office) I tryed adding ACCEPT loc fw tcp ssh Presuming that would allow the local ip range to access the SSH server, but it didnt. Its locally that i am despearing over at the moment, after the changes to shorewall and the restart it accepted the changes to /etc/shorewall/rules but it still wouldnt let me SSH in :( SNIP The line would be ACCEPT loc fw tcp ssh if your local ethernet zone was called 'loc', but the default for shorewall in Mandrake is to call the local zone 'masq'. You can confirm what the zones are called, and which interface belongs to which zone by looking at /etc/shorewall/zones and /etc/shorewall/interfaces derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] internet connection
I recently install mandrake 9..when try to connect to the internet it tells me that the medem doesnt respond..but i can connect to the internet when i'm using windows 98( I dual bot my pc ) plz help me _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] internet connection
On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 22:56, mokong kong wrote: I recently install mandrake 9..when try to connect to the internet it tells me that the medem doesnt respond..but i can connect to the internet when i'm using windows 98( I dual bot my pc ) plz help me Hello, Mokong! What type of modem are you using? Have you gotten the correct driver for that modem and installed it yet? And what are you using to connect - KPPP, the Mandrake Control Centre or something else? -- Sun Apr 6 23:00:00 EST 2003 23:00:00 up 16 days, 10:47, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.16, 0.16 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** A commune is where people join together to share their lack of wealth. -- R. Stallman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] internet connection
hi stephen! I'm using a Dlink internal modem...i dont know where to find correct driver for my modem...plz can u tell where and how?...I'm using KPPP to connect to the internet.. From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] internet connection Date: 06 Apr 2003 23:02:45 +1000 On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 22:56, mokong kong wrote: I recently install mandrake 9..when try to connect to the internet it tells me that the medem doesnt respond..but i can connect to the internet when i'm using windows 98( I dual bot my pc ) plz help me Hello, Mokong! What type of modem are you using? Have you gotten the correct driver for that modem and installed it yet? And what are you using to connect - KPPP, the Mandrake Control Centre or something else? -- Sun Apr 6 23:00:00 EST 2003 23:00:00 up 16 days, 10:47, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.16, 0.16 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** A commune is where people join together to share their lack of wealth. -- R. Stallman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] internet connection
On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 23:21, mokong kong wrote: hi stephen! I'm using a Dlink internal modem...i dont know where to find correct driver for my modem...plz can u tell where and how?...I'm using KPPP to connect to the internet.. http://www.linmodems.org See if you can locate the correct driver for the modem - once you've gotten that, then we can work out the rest of the problem! -- Sun Apr 6 23:35:01 EST 2003 23:35:01 up 16 days, 11:22, 3 users, load average: 0.87, 0.52, 0.36 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** In my opinion, Richard Stallman wouldn't recognise terrorism if it came up and bit him on his Internet. -- Ross M. Greenberg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Prob. SOLVED !!!
Hi Again Many thanks to everyone who has helped with this problem. It is now solved! I have no idea what really went wrong, but I eventually solved it by reinstalling Mandrake and reloading all my settings etc. - I didn't do the original installation myself, so it was a bit hair-raising at times when I had to work out which options to select. Although it has been frustrating, in many ways this has been a useful experience as I now know far more about how Mandrake and Linux actually work than I would have done if everything had been OK from the start! Thanks again everybody. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Prob. SOLVED !!!
On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:33 pm, Margot wrote: Hi Again Many thanks to everyone who has helped with this problem. It is now solved! I have no idea what really went wrong, but I eventually solved it by reinstalling Mandrake and reloading all my settings etc. - I didn't do the original installation myself, so it was a bit hair-raising at times when I had to work out which options to select. Although it has been frustrating, in many ways this has been a useful experience as I now know far more about how Mandrake and Linux actually work than I would have done if everything had been OK from the start! Thanks again everybody. Margot Margot: Your success has also proven that you're smarter than whoever did the original installation, and are hereby entitled to one free gloat -- feel free to use my name. Be careful with remarks about hair-raising, though. Those of us who our hair with a washcloth get a little touchy on the subject. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
Hello All Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back now, and have got a bit further, but not much! Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set it all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for freeserve screenshots), but still having problems. Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account automatically showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to newsgroups I got Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de. Seems to me that it HAS connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had registered for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the information that is coming from the server! When trying to receive email, I get Failed to connect to server pop.freeserve.com. Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of the browser screen Resolving host www.google.co.uk and a box in the middle of the browser saying www.google.co.uk could not be found. Please check the name and try again. By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse without even being connected to the internet! I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping www.yahoo.com I got unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got PING 66.218.71.83 (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't understand why it works by number but not by name. Can anyone help me further? Thanks Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
what this is is either the default gateway or the DNS is wrongly configured. On Sunday 02 March 2003 10:37 am, Margot wrote: Hello All Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back now, and have got a bit further, but not much! Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set it all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for freeserve screenshots), but still having problems. Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account automatically showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to newsgroups I got Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de. Seems to me that it HAS connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had registered for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the information that is coming from the server! When trying to receive email, I get Failed to connect to server pop.freeserve.com. Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of the browser screen Resolving host www.google.co.uk and a box in the middle of the browser saying www.google.co.uk could not be found. Please check the name and try again. By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse without even being connected to the internet! I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping www.yahoo.com I got unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got PING 66.218.71.83 (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't understand why it works by number but not by name. Can anyone help me further? Thanks Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 3:37 pm, Margot wrote: I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping www.yahoo.com I got unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got PING 66.218.71.83 (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't understand why it works by number but not by name. When you ping by name your machine first has to convert the name to numbers. In your case that step is failing. Check your DNS server setting. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Sunday 02 March 2003 06:37 am, Margot wrote: Hello All Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back now, and have got a bit further, but not much! Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set it all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for freeserve screenshots), but still having problems. Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account automatically showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to newsgroups I got Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de. Seems to me that it HAS connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had registered for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the information that is coming from the server! When trying to receive email, I get Failed to connect to server pop.freeserve.com. Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of the browser screen Resolving host www.google.co.uk and a box in the middle of the browser saying www.google.co.uk could not be found. Please check the name and try again. By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse without even being connected to the internet! I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping www.yahoo.com I got unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got PING 66.218.71.83 (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't understand why it works by number but not by name. Can anyone help me further? Thanks Margot Ummm sounds like a cookie/nameserver problem (two problems with similar results) First resolve the nameserver problem Then take care of the cookies by re-registering for the services. For the nameserver problem, let us see the output of a command line 1. Open a terminal 2. Type the command 3. highlight the output with the mouse 4. click on the email window and middle-click (or right and lefgt click at same time) to paste The command is $ cat /etc/resolv.conf Also in kppp make sure you have some nameservers set or that you are getting automated retrieval Here is my cat /etc/resolv.conf [EMAIL PROTECTED] tester]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf search civileme.net nameserver 209.193.4.8 nameserver 209.193.4.7 # ppp temp entry [EMAIL PROTECTED] tester]$ Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
When you ping by name your machine first has to convert the name to numbers. In your case that step is failing. Check your DNS server setting. Or just edit /etc/hosts. Lots quicker and is the first place that is checked for name-IP conversion. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snipped details of problem Ummm sounds like a cookie/nameserver problem (two problems with similar results) First resolve the nameserver problem Then take care of the cookies by re-registering for the services. For the nameserver problem, let us see the output of a command line 1. Open a terminal 2. Type the command 3. highlight the output with the mouse 4. click on the email window and middle-click (or right and lefgt click at same time) to paste Actually printed out then retyped the output - because the email on the linux machine isn't working! - but thanks for the tip about the middle mouse button, I had wondered what it was for. The command is $ cat /etc/resolv.conf search localdomain eurobell.co.uk search localdomain search localdomain freeserve.com search localdomain freeserve.com # nameserver 192.168.100.6 nameserver 192.168.0.2 nameserver 212.24.65.65 nameserver 212.24.65.199 # ppp temp entry [EMAIL PROTECTED] user] Presumably I need to remove the first line, but what about the others? Also in kppp make sure you have some nameservers set or that you are getting automated retrieval ... is set to Automatic Civileme Thanks for your help. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Sunday 02 March 2003 01:54 pm, Margot wrote: - Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snipped details of problem Ummm sounds like a cookie/nameserver problem (two problems with similar results) First resolve the nameserver problem Then take care of the cookies by re-registering for the services. For the nameserver problem, let us see the output of a command line 1. Open a terminal 2. Type the command 3. highlight the output with the mouse 4. click on the email window and middle-click (or right and lefgt click at same time) to paste Actually printed out then retyped the output - because the email on the linux machine isn't working! - but thanks for the tip about the middle mouse button, I had wondered what it was for. The command is $ cat /etc/resolv.conf search localdomain eurobell.co.uk search localdomain search localdomain freeserve.com search localdomain freeserve.com # nameserver 192.168.100.6 nameserver 192.168.0.2 nameserver 212.24.65.65 nameserver 212.24.65.199 # ppp temp entry [EMAIL PROTECTED] user] Presumably I need to remove the first line, but what about the others? Also in kppp make sure you have some nameservers set or that you are getting automated retrieval ... is set to Automatic Civileme Thanks for your help. Margot Margot , here is my resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.0.1 nameserver 68.13.16.30 search cox.net based on that I would say that you only need what is related to your comp and freeserve. So search freeserve.com nameserver 192.168.100.6 nameserver 212.24.65.65 nameserver 212.24 65.199 assuming that the last two are indeed the nameserver IPs for freeserve. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 02:37, Margot wrote: Hello All Had to step back from this problem for a while, for health reasons. Back now, and have got a bit further, but not much! Have abandoned eurobell as ISP, and gone with freeserve anytime. Have set it all up in MCC/kppp and Mozilla (thanks to John Richard Smith for freeserve screenshots), but still having problems. Subscribed to the Berlin news server via Win 98 machine, and next time I tried to connect via Linux machine the news.cis.dfn.de account automatically showed up in Mozilla - but when I tried to subscribe to newsgroups I got Failed to connect to server news.cis.dfn.de. Seems to me that it HAS connected to the server - or how would Mozilla know that I had registered for that service - but for some reason it won't let me see the information that is coming from the server! When trying to receive email, I get Failed to connect to server pop.freeserve.com. Attempted browsing gives me a message at the bottom of the browser screen Resolving host www.google.co.uk and a box in the middle of the browser saying www.google.co.uk could not be found. Please check the name and try again. By mistake the other day I forgot to set kppp running before trying Mozilla - and got the exact same error messages on mail, news and browse without even being connected to the internet! I have tried to ping, and got strange results - when I did ping www.yahoo.com I got unknown host www.yahoo.com, but when I tried ping 66.218.71.83 (the numeric version of yahoo) I got PING 66.218.71.83 (66.218.71.83) from 217.134.91.169 : 56(84) bytes of data. I don't understand why it works by number but not by name. Can anyone help me further? Thanks Margot It is most obviously a network problem - either your KPPP setup is incorrect, or the actual local machine settings are incorrect. You should go through all the settings for KPPP and make sure that you're putting in their Primary and Secondary DNS entries, as well as setting it to use a server given IP address. Often I have run across network problems with KPPP, hence my aversion to using it - preferring to use WV-DIAL instead (along with Xwvdial as the GUI interface). WV-DIAL in on the MDK disks - can't quite remember which one, but it's a tad more simplistic in it's setup - more of a static setup and easier to get to the bits and bobs for doing further configurations - as well, it leaves a really nice little text file in the /etc directory that is very easily modified. Another thing to make sure is that your modem is being initialised properly - I have seen in some instances that the modems basic init strings disallow proper network flow - a good standard init string is: AT F C1 D2 E1 Q0 V1 (for literally any modem) HTH! -- Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:45:01 +1100 9:45am up 4 days, 23:48, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.17 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I went home with a waitress, The way I always do. How I was I to know? She was with the Russians too. I was gambling in Havana, I took a little risk. Send lawyers, guns, and money, Dad, get me out of this. -- Warren Zevon, Lawyers, Guns and Money Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
All, installing dhcpcd and changing from fixed to dynamic ip address worked for me. Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails On Thursday 20 February 2003 02:25 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Dennis, What nic have you got? There seems to be problems with one or two nics at the moment. I have a realtek and to get to the internet I have to use a fixed ip. Which machine is it on, the firewall or one of the two behind it? Tony. -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:49 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails snip I used Charles solution and it worked. I think it was Charles. I installed the dhcpcd package and had a internet connection on first boot of a clean install. This looks like something that will have to definitely be fixed cause it delt me fits and I am no true newbie. Really really new newbies will get fed up with things like this and go back to the other guys. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:50:58 -0600 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used Charles solution and it worked. I think it was Charles. Yes. It was I. I installed the dhcpcd package and had a internet connection on first boot of a clean install. This looks like something that will have to definitely be fixed cause it delt me fits and I am no true newbie. Really really new newbies will get fed up with things like this and go back to the other guys.-- I posted the same info to the cooker list and to bugzilla. Following my post the DrakX snapshot list which shows changes made to the DrakX installer program showed * network/network.pm: dhcp fix which I an assuming corrects the problem. Have to wait for RC2 and test to be sure. Charles -- Oh don't the days seem lank and long When all goes right and none goes wrong, And isn't your life extremely flat With nothing whatever to grumble at! - Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-8mdk - msg120262/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
Dennis, What nic have you got? There seems to be problems with one or two nics at the moment. I have a realtek and to get to the internet I have to use a fixed ip. Which machine is it on, the firewall or one of the two behind it? Tony. -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:49 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails Does anyone know how to get internet connection with rc1? I have a firewall with static ip and two linux computers behind it. Installed 9.1rc1 and had a internet connection that went away within 5 minutes and have not been able to reestablish it. I know the Mandrake site says a proxy maybe but don't know how to configure that. Is there something in resolve config or somewhere like that I can make a connection work? Any help is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:25:27 - Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What nic have you got? There seems to be problems with one or two nics at the moment. I have a realtek and to get to the internet I have to use a fixed ip. Which machine is it on, the firewall or one of the two behind it? For anyone having problems with DHCP and the Betas or RC1 ^ The problem Is Not caused by the nic During network configuration if you select DHCP, regardless of the type of connection dhcp-client and dhcp-server are installed and Only they are installed. If you connect through a firewall, router or to a LAN you Need to install dhcpcd. You can remove the dhcp-client and server because you do not need them on that machine but if you for some reason run drakconnect it will want to install them again.. Charles -- Man who arrives at party two hours late will find he has been beaten to the punch. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-7mdk - msg120163/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
On Thursday 20 February 2003 14:04, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:25:27 - Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What nic have you got? There seems to be problems with one or two nics at the moment. I have a realtek and to get to the internet I have to use a fixed ip. Which machine is it on, the firewall or one of the two behind it? For anyone having problems with DHCP and the Betas or RC1 ^ The problem Is Not caused by the nic During network configuration if you select DHCP, regardless of the type of connection dhcp-client and dhcp-server are installed and Only they are installed. If you connect through a firewall, router or to a LAN you Need to install dhcpcd. You can remove the dhcp-client and server because you do not need them on that machine but if you for some reason run drakconnect it will want to install them again.. Charles I have the habit of configuring my internet connection After install. Thus my machine insisted on dhcp when I tyried to configure it later. I did a new install and 'configured' static IP during initial install and this seems to work fine (uptil now, 10 min later) Good Luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails Dennis, What nic have you got? There seems to be problems with one or two nics at the moment. I have a realtek and to get to the internet I have to use a fixed ip. Which machine is it on, the firewall or one of the two behind it? Tony. -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:49 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails Does anyone know how to get internet connection with rc1? I have a firewall with static ip and two linux computers behind it. Installed 9.1rc1 and had a internet connection that went away within 5 minutes and have not been able to reestablish it. I know the Mandrake site says a proxy maybe but don't know how to configure that. Is there something in resolve config or somewhere like that I can make a connection work? Any help is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ rc1 is on one of the machines behind the firewall. Might be a realtek NIC, I will check it later today. I did try a static ip and still no connection cause it won't change over from dhcp. Charles has posted a workaround to get a connection, I will try that later today also. Thanks for the input. Dennis M. application/ms-tnefWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
On Thursday February 20 2003 07:04 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: For anyone having problems with DHCP and the Betas or RC1 ^ The problem Is Not caused by the nic During network configuration if you select DHCP, regardless of the type of connection dhcp-client and dhcp-server are installed and Only they are installed. If you connect through a firewall, router or to a LAN you Need to install dhcpcd. You can remove the dhcp-client and server because you do not need them on that machine but if you for some reason run drakconnect it will want to install them again.. Charles OTOH, I'm connecting thru a NIC and router (ATU-R), often called a adsl modem. tom$ frpm dhcp dhcp-client-3.0-2pl2.3mdk dhcp-common-3.0-2pl2.3mdk No problems, works great. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:00:28 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I'm connecting thru a NIC and router (ATU-R), often called a adsl modem. tom$ frpm dhcp dhcp-client-3.0-2pl2.3mdk dhcp-common-3.0-2pl2.3mdk No problems, works great. Right. With your set-up you need it. But in my case with a LAN and in D-Link bugzilla case where a special router is used between the NIC and the modem then dhcpcd must be installed. BTW, in case you do not receive them I noted that in the latest DrakX snapshot 2003/02/20 Damien Chaumette [EMAIL PROTECTED] * network/network.pm: dhcp fix Will see if it actually does when RC2 is uploaded. Charles -- Greebo could, in fact, commit sexual harrassment simply by sitting very quietly in the next room. (Maskerade) - Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-8mdk - msg120194/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
On Thursday 20 February 2003 02:25 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Dennis, What nic have you got? There seems to be problems with one or two nics at the moment. I have a realtek and to get to the internet I have to use a fixed ip. Which machine is it on, the firewall or one of the two behind it? Tony. -Original Message- From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:49 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails snip I used Charles solution and it worked. I think it was Charles. I installed the dhcpcd package and had a internet connection on first boot of a clean install. This looks like something that will have to definitely be fixed cause it delt me fits and I am no true newbie. Really really new newbies will get fed up with things like this and go back to the other guys. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet connection on 9.1rc1 fails
Does anyone know how to get internet connection with rc1? I have a firewall with static ip and two linux computers behind it. Installed 9.1rc1 and had a internet connection that went away within 5 minutes and have not been able to reestablish it. I know the Mandrake site says a proxy maybe but don't know how to configure that. Is there something in resolve config or somewhere like that I can make a connection work? Any help is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet Connection Share problem
Hi Sorry my english. I ve a Mandrake 9.0 and i ve an Internet Connection Share. I ve been configured in the Drakconf If i do something (samba, nfs, security) the Internet Connection Share is broken. The DNS address is wrong (but the DNS in the dhcpd.conf is well ) The connection share is disabled Kovacs Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
I am no network whizz so i may be blowing smoke here. But in my understanding if you have a running windows connection a linux connection is usually achievable. This may sound a little crazy but it just seems strange to me that you are attempting to connect to the mail server. Surely you connect via the phone number provided to 'the' computer on the other end, then once connected, your mail proggy talks to mail.eurobell.co.uk. You are paying for an internet connection, not just an e-mail account? Do you have it running in windows? Perhaps some info from your windows account would be usefull for the linux connection. I scanned their web-site and i had trouble locating any 56k connect info at all. This doesn't mean they don't do 56k accounts, they are pushing their broadband access hard though. snip I used the wizard in MCC to set up the connection again, then used the Mozilla wizard to set up my account, but still no luck. As eurobell failed to give a sensible answer to my question about authentication protocol, I tried all the options! This is what I got... As PAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As CHAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk snip Margot -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:41, Margot wrote: - Original Message - From: Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wed, January 29 2003 5:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. Actually, that's not QUITE true, perhaps her ISP uses some transparent proxying that ZA blocks. I have seen cases where firewalls DO cause problems with certain ISPs. Although, that is not her problem, that is the ISP's. Or, perhaps they have a very non-standard way of giving her internet access, perhaps using some sort of virtual networking, automatically set up at their end. If this is the case, then 9 times out of 10, any firewall would break it. I could get quite technical, in the ways it could happen.. But there is no time, nor is this the proper place. However, to help you with your problem, I would suggest that you, at the (EEK!!) command line, su to root, type ipchains -F, then ipchains -L and see what the default policies are.. INPUT and OUTPUT should be allowed.. If they are, then we have another problem, but it's a start. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chuck Logged in as user, su to root, went to (EEK!!) command line, tried both ipchains -F and ipchains -L, got the same error message for both: Could not run the specified command. In case there was a permission problem, tried logging in as root and using root console for both commands, and got command not found. Is there somewhere else to look for these default policies? Margot Margot, Regarding ipchains, it was replaced with iptables for mandrake 8.X. Try man iptables to read up on it. Then you will be able to list your tables. I suspect this is not your problem though. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) Civileme, Thanks for offering help. I think I've done all you suggested (see below), but I still get Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk when I try to retrieve emails through mozilla. OK I am late in on this thread, but let's see You have PAP on their end without a doubt. OK, have set it to PAP If you are using 9.0, then you need to erase the GATEWAY=xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa entry in /etc/sysconfig/network. Script error causes a big problem with ppp connections by demanding a gateway that cannot point to ppp0. OK, done that. Now on to firewalling. If you use the command line, likely you will need to bring up a terminal window and su first then give the root password # iptables -L is the instruction to list all the tables and any rules within if you have tables and there are policies or rules in effect, you need to iptables -F OUTPUT iptables -F INPUT iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT OK, done all those - didn't get any response, but at least no error messages. I'm not all that familiar with command line - does no response mean the command has been accepted? to turn off filtering entirely. Now if iptables does not work at all, then you do not have it loaded and no firewalling can be present, so firewalling would not be your problem An OLD OLD error was /etc/ppp/options it should be the following lock noauth noipdefault usepeerdns That is exactly what I have. The usepeerdns can be eliminated if you set up your own dns pointers, Should I eliminate usepeerdns? but the noauth is critically important. When it is absent, the server is required to authenticate itself to your PC and that dialog could produce the hangup behavior you speak of. OTHER problems could be the protocol of your modem vs their protocol. If both are not using V.92, this could be the case. In that case, change modems or change ISPs. Civileme The modem is the one I have been using for 2 years to connect to this ISP, but on the old Win 98 machine (which I'm using now to send this message), so I assume the modem and the ISP are compatible. When I got the new linux machine I was told I didn't need a new modem as the existing one would be OK - it is 3Com US Robotics 56K. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snip Don't know if this helps : I suppose *eurobell* is some kind of a *baby-bell* i.e. ATT. Actually, eurobell is nothing to do with ATT - just a similar name! It is part of Telewest/Blueyonder. Thanks for trying to help though. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 2:05 am, Larry Williams wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 14:24, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. Actually, as I'm quickly learning, there shouldn't be a need to reboot. You will have to restart your network service, whcih can be done as root by typing service network restart In general I would agree - reboots are usually not needed, but in my experience if you have had problems (as distinct from just adjusting or adding something) it may be necessary, to clean out the junk, I suppose. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wed, January 29 2003 5:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. Actually, that's not QUITE true, perhaps her ISP uses some transparent proxying that ZA blocks. I have seen cases where firewalls DO cause problems with certain ISPs. Although, that is not her problem, that is the ISP's. Or, perhaps they have a very non-standard way of giving her internet access, perhaps using some sort of virtual networking, automatically set up at their end. If this is the case, then 9 times out of 10, any firewall would break it. I could get quite technical, in the ways it could happen.. But there is no time, nor is this the proper place. However, to help you with your problem, I would suggest that you, at the (EEK!!) command line, su to root, type ipchains -F, then ipchains -L and see what the default policies are.. INPUT and OUTPUT should be allowed.. If they are, then we have another problem, but it's a start. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Chuck Logged in as user, su to root, went to (EEK!!) command line, tried both ipchains -F and ipchains -L, got the same error message for both: Could not run the specified command. In case there was a permission problem, tried logging in as root and using root console for both commands, and got command not found. Is there somewhere else to look for these default policies? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snipped all Anne, I used the wizard in MCC to set up the connection again, then used the Mozilla wizard to set up my account, but still no luck. As eurobell failed to give a sensible answer to my question about authentication protocol, I tried all the options! This is what I got... As PAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As CHAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As Terminal-based: Gave me a terminal screen where I put in my username, then I got The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 As Script-based: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 Consulted man pppd - found that Exit status 16 = The link was terminated by the modem hanging up. Originally I thought the problem might be failure of the hardware module located between chair and keyboard - I have ME, and sometimes my brain gets a bit foggy! Now I think it is more likely that eurobell has some weird setup that they can't understand themselves, let alone explain to other people! So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... Meanwhile, I don't feel inclined to waste any more of my time or yours on this problem - I'm sure we've all got better things to do - but big thanks to Anne and all others for help so far. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 11:27 am, Margot wrote: So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... The messages, to me, indicate that either a) you are timing out - but IIRC you have already set that as high as it will go b) you are failing authentication. I think this is the real problem. Yes, if Eurobel are the real problem, you may have to look elsewhere. FWIW I use Mailbox for my adsl isp. You may wish to check out there website. I found them through the adslguide site, that looks at service and customer satisfaction, and have been delighted with them. What's more they don't eek when you say linux. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 22:36, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 11:27 am, Margot wrote: So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... The messages, to me, indicate that either a) you are timing out - but IIRC you have already set that as high as it will go b) you are failing authentication. I think this is the real problem. Yes, if Eurobel are the real problem, you may have to look elsewhere. FWIW I use Mailbox for my adsl isp. You may wish to check out there website. I found them through the adslguide site, that looks at service and customer satisfaction, and have been delighted with them. What's more they don't eek when you say linux. Anne Due to the problems with timeouts with KPPP, I'd suggest giving wvdial a go since it sometimes bypasses the idiosyncrasies of KPPP and initiates a connection. The wvdial package is on the CD set...can't recall where, though... -- Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:00 +1100 10:45pm up 1 day, 1:42, 5 users, load average: 0.51, 0.40, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- birth, n: The first and direst of all disasters. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
or maybe because it restarts a bunch of servicces that have been reconfigured but not restarted. On Friday 31 January 2003 05:02 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 2:05 am, Larry Williams wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 14:24, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. Actually, as I'm quickly learning, there shouldn't be a need to reboot. You will have to restart your network service, whcih can be done as root by typing service network restart In general I would agree - reboots are usually not needed, but in my experience if you have had problems (as distinct from just adjusting or adding something) it may be necessary, to clean out the junk, I suppose. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:24 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. ps there are full details in the archives somewhere (errata) HTH Anne Anne, I've got this in my /etc/sysconfig/network file: GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 and it works fine. I had to do this since Mandrake always complains during installation that I've configure multiple ways to connect to the Internet. (I've got an external modem and LAN card). Also, you don't have to reboot. You can do (as su) a: service network restart :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 11:53 am, et wrote: or maybe because it restarts a bunch of servicces that have been reconfigured but not restarted. That sounds more than likely g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:23 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:24 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. ps there are full details in the archives somewhere (errata) HTH Anne Anne, I've got this in my /etc/sysconfig/network file: GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 Can't comment on that. Mine is adsl over lan with a router, so quite different. and it works fine. I had to do this since Mandrake always complains during installation that I've configure multiple ways to connect to the Internet. (I've got an external modem and LAN card). Also, you don't have to reboot. You can do (as su) a: service network restart :-) I guess that's why he said re-boot, but your way would be just as good, but perhaps not as 'intuitive' for a newbie? intuitive - inn-too-it-iv - adj: relative to the windows way of doing thing. Origin u.s.a., late 20c. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I guess that's why he said re-boot, but your way would be just as good, but perhaps not as 'intuitive' for a newbie? intuitive - inn-too-it-iv - adj: relative to the windows way of doing thing. Origin u.s.a., late 20c. Anne grin Windows is not inn-too-it-iv, Anne...just look - you have to go to the start icon to stop :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:40 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 12:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: I guess that's why he said re-boot, but your way would be just as good, but perhaps not as 'intuitive' for a newbie? intuitive - inn-too-it-iv - adj: relative to the windows way of doing thing. Origin u.s.a., late 20c. Anne grin Windows is not inn-too-it-iv, Anne...just look - you have to go to the start icon to stop :-) I always thought that was a master stroke g Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 31 January 2003 02:27 am, Margot wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) snipped all Anne, I used the wizard in MCC to set up the connection again, then used the Mozilla wizard to set up my account, but still no luck. As eurobell failed to give a sensible answer to my question about authentication protocol, I tried all the options! This is what I got... As PAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As CHAP: Failed to connect to server mail.eurobell.co.uk As Terminal-based: Gave me a terminal screen where I put in my username, then I got The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 As Script-based: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly Exit status:16 Consulted man pppd - found that Exit status 16 = The link was terminated by the modem hanging up. Originally I thought the problem might be failure of the hardware module located between chair and keyboard - I have ME, and sometimes my brain gets a bit foggy! Now I think it is more likely that eurobell has some weird setup that they can't understand themselves, let alone explain to other people! So perhaps the answer is just that I need to use a different ISP? I've started a new thread asking for recommendations... Meanwhile, I don't feel inclined to waste any more of my time or yours on this problem - I'm sure we've all got better things to do - but big thanks to Anne and all others for help so far. Margot OK I am late in on this thread, but let's see You have PAP on their end without a doubt. If you are using 9.0, then you need to erase the GATEWAY=xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa entry in /etc/sysconfig/network. Script error causes a big problem with ppp connections by demanding a gateway that cannot point to ppp0. Now on to firewalling. If you use the command line, likely you will need to bring up a terminal window and su first then give the root password # iptables -L is the instruction to list all the tables and any rules within if you have tables and there are policies or rules in effect, you need to iptables -F OUTPUT iptables -F INPUT iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT to turn off filtering entirely. Now if iptables does not work at all, then you do not have it loaded and no firewalling can be present, so firewalling would not be your problem An OLD OLD error was /etc/ppp/options it should be the following lock noauth noipdefault usepeerdns The usepeerdns can be eliminated if you set up your own dns pointers, but the noauth is critically important. When it is absent, the server is required to authenticate itself to your PC and that dialog could produce the hangup behavior you speak of. OTHER problems could be the protocol of your modem vs their protocol. If both are not using V.92, this could be the case. In that case, change modems or change ISPs. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 7:53 pm, Margot wrote: TCP/IP settings from windoze machine: All the following are checked: Server assigned IP address Server assigned name server address Use IP header compression Use default gateway on remote network The servers are: POP server: pop.eurobell.co.uk SMTP server: mail.eurobell.co.uk News server: news.eurobell.co.uk OK - let's try to sort this out. I'm on adsl now, so I haven't set a connection up like this under 9.0, but I've got the manual in front of me, so it should prompt the memory. In MCC, open Network Internet, then Connection. You should see your present connection listed there. If you are on a lan, you will see that too. If I remember correctly, under 8.2 it was difficult to do anything useful to the profile without clicking on the Expert button, which then allowed you to choose between amending the lan connection and amending the internet connection. This allows manual configuration. If you are not on a lan, I presume that you will not need that. Anyway, we'll try the wizard way first. Connection name - Eurobell Phone number - your dial-in number - since you're on adsl this will not be an option, I guess. Login ID - as issued by Eurobell - just the same as you need in windows Password - ditto Authentication - Eurobell should have told you the type to use. If they haven't you will have to experiment. I think CHAP is the most common. Domain name - eurobell.co.uk First DNS Server - Eurobell should have given you at least one dns server ip, preferrably two. The wizard says 'Optional' but do put them in. That should be all you need to connect. From what you have said before I'm guessing that you probably have this part right, except, possibly the dns server ip. You would be able to connect, but may not be able to surf if you don't have that ip in your configuration. To get email and news you then have to set up a client. I'll give you the setting for Mozilla, because it does both email and news. You can apply pretty much the same to any other clients you choose. When you first go to Moz Mail Newsgroups it runs a wizard. If this has already been done while you were experimenting, you can make changes by clicking on the top line of the account you set up, then selecting 'View Settings for thie Account'. First screen Account name - theoretically it can be anything you like, but it's safest to call it by your Eurobell login name - some clients use this field for logging in. Your Name - Margot Email Address - your usual address Reply-to-Address - don't set this unless you want replies to go to a different account. It causes problems for the list. Compose messages in html - unchecked Server Settings (second screen, from left-hand menu) Server Name - mail.eurobell.co.uk User name - As given to you by Eurobell - the one you use to log in Port - usually set to 110 Make your selections from the next set of boxes. If you are going to experiment with several clients, select 'Leave messages on server@'for all but one of them. For the local directory, leave the default. Copies Folders I like to select Place a copy in Local Folders for all sections - you keep copies on your hdd then. I like to feel in control The rest of the pages you can leave at default. Go down the left-hand column then to Outgoing Server (SMTP) This screen is important. Server Name - smtp.eurobell.co.uk Use name and password - this depends on the isp. Try without it. If it doesn't work set it to the ones you need for Eurobell. Some smtp servers use it, some don't and will bounce your mail if you tick it. That should get you mail. Setting up a mail server is almost exactly the same. Try all that and let us know what happens. If it still doesn't work, try to note down exactly how far you get - what happens, and when it stops responding. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 10:03 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Margot, I've been discussing your problem off-list with a knowledgeable friend. Here are his comments which should prove useful: It's probably the gateway setting. This is a recognised problem in Mdk 9 when you auto install and have a lan card and a modem. As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. ps there are full details in the archives somewhere (errata) HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 January 2003 14:24, Anne Wilson wrote: As root edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Reboot the machine and the DNS resolution should start working ok. Actually, as I'm quickly learning, there shouldn't be a need to reboot. You will have to restart your network service, whcih can be done as root by typing service network restart Cheers, Larry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
Title: RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) Dennis, Sorry for delay in replying - not been well. Thanks for your suggestion, but this was one of the first things I tried as I read it in another thread. I thought it might work because I installed Zone Alarm on the W98 machine a while ago and then had to uninstall it again when it prevented all internet access - similar problem to the one I have now - eurobell said their service was "not compatible" with Zone Alarm! Sadly, switching off the firewalldidn't help this time - do you think I need to uninstall it completely as I had to do with Zone Alarm? Margot - Original Message - From: Myers, Dennis R NWO To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) Try opening MCC and then security and turn off the firewall by clicking on the square that says everything, no firewall, then apply and then try your internet connection again. If that solves the problem you should be able to turn the firewall on again and still get a connection. HTH Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
Anne, Sorry for delay in replying, not been well for a few days. I've managed to extract some information from the windoze machine and from eurobell, but I don't know how helpful it will be - perhaps you will be able to tell me where I put these things in linux? - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Friday 24 Jan 2003 6:02 pm, Margot wrote: I can't surf, send or receive email, or access newsgroups. I've set up my account details in all the applications I can find - Kmail etc. - and I don't mind which I use for the moment... will probably develop a preference over time, but for now would be happy with anything I can get to work! I have followed ets suggestion - found gateway in kppp and changed it to 0.0.0.0, but still no luck. I don't remember gateway in kppp - but that would be because I was not connecting over a lan. You don't need gateway for a single modem connection. If this is a cable adsl connection that may be different - I don't know. I have also added the DNS server IP addresses as instructed by Derek. Still getting the same error message host eurobell unknown. Unless Mandrake/Linux follows the Microsoft tradition of generating error messages that are completely unrelated to the actual problem, I assume the problem is something to do with host - but what? This and your related comment on the original post seem to me to point to the dns problem. I presume that your 'host eurobell unknown' comes when you put their url into a browser? Also when I try to send or collect mail or access newsgroups. I get host google unknown if I try their url in browser. If so, then it means that either you have spelled it wrong - unlikely - or that you are not connecting to a dns server to resolve it. Your isp will assign you a number, but unless you have told your setup the primary (and secondary if you know it) dns lookup address for your isp it cannot find the numerical address that it needs to translate a url. Does that make sense to you? It should sort out the web browsing. Would be grateful for any further suggestions. Margot For email, the usual problem is the login. ISPs have different ideas about how you need to give the username Username is just margotlawrence Another stumbling block is the authentication protocal. Eurobell should have told you whether it uses, for instance, chap or pap. Get the wrong one and you will get no further. Have checked with eurobell - they say they do not use chap or pap but pta (plain text authentication), or they described it as bog standard with no encryption using sysco (sp?) modem racks. Does this make sense? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! This is a big plus. If you go into the windows setup and go through the properties screen for tcp/ip noting down every setting that's there it should help. Post the settings here if you need any clarification. TCP/IP settings from windoze machine: All the following are checked: Server assigned IP address Server assigned name server address Use IP header compression Use default gateway on remote network The servers are: POP server: pop.eurobell.co.uk SMTP server: mail.eurobell.co.uk News server: news.eurobell.co.uk Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
At 06:58 PM 1/29/2003 +, you wrote: Dennis, Sorry for delay in replying - not been well. Thanks for your suggestion, but this was one of the first things I tried as I read it in another thread. I thought it might work because I installed Zone Alarm on the W98 machine a while ago and then had to uninstall it again when it prevented all internet access - similar problem to the one I have now - eurobell said their service was not compatible with Zone Alarm! Sadly, switching off the firewall didn't help this time - do you think I need to uninstall it completely as I had to do with Zone Alarm? Margot Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. If you need/want ZA still email me off list I'll give you instructions with Pictures on how to set it up correctly. Its not hard. I have 2 comps here using it now. :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Wed, January 29 2003 5:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. Actually, that's not QUITE true, perhaps her ISP uses some transparent proxying that ZA blocks. I have seen cases where firewalls DO cause problems with certain ISPs. Although, that is not her problem, that is the ISP's. Or, perhaps they have a very non-standard way of giving her internet access, perhaps using some sort of virtual networking, automatically set up at their end. If this is the case, then 9 times out of 10, any firewall would break it. I could get quite technical, in the ways it could happen.. But there is no time, nor is this the proper place. However, to help you with your problem, I would suggest that you, at the (EEK!!) command line, su to root, type ipchains -F, then ipchains -L and see what the default policies are.. INPUT and OUTPUT should be allowed.. If they are, then we have another problem, but it's a start. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---===--- Life is full of concepts that are poorly defined. In fact, there are very few concepts that aren't. It's hard to think of any in non-technical fields. -- Daniel Kimberg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
At 06:33 PM 1/29/2003 -0600, you wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 5:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. Actually, that's not QUITE true, perhaps her ISP uses some transparent proxying that ZA blocks. I have seen cases where firewalls DO cause problems with certain ISPs. Although, that is not her problem, that is the ISP's. Or, perhaps they have a very non-standard way of giving her internet access, perhaps using some sort of virtual networking, automatically set up at their end. If this is the case, then 9 times out of 10, any firewall would break it. I could get quite technical, in the ways it could happen.. But there is no time, nor is this the proper place. However, to help you with your problem, I would suggest that you, at the (EEK!!) command line, su to root, type ipchains -F, then ipchains -L and see what the default policies are.. INPUT and OUTPUT should be allowed.. If they are, then we have another problem, but it's a start. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] *laffs*, twice in day I'm being corrected by the same guy! Damn! Guess these painkillers are working overtime G Thx again Chuck, I hadn't thought of those angles. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 12:33 am, Chuck Burns wrote: On Wed, January 29 2003 5:19 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Hi Margot! I haven't followed this whole thread but if I may say, your ISP Is full of shit. ZA has nothing to do with them. It just shields your comp from outside of the LAN computers. IE, Net comps on the other end. Actually, that's not QUITE true, perhaps her ISP uses some transparent proxying that ZA blocks. I have seen cases where firewalls DO cause problems with certain ISPs. Although, that is not her problem, that is the ISP's. Or, perhaps they have a very non-standard way of giving her internet access, perhaps using some sort of virtual networking, automatically set up at their end. If this is the case, then 9 times out of 10, any firewall would break it. I could get quite technical, in the ways it could happen.. But there is no time, nor is this the proper place. However, to help you with your problem, I would suggest that you, at the (EEK!!) command line, su to root, type ipchains -F, then ipchains -L and see what the default policies are.. INPUT and OUTPUT should be allowed.. If they are, then we have another problem, but it's a start. Chuck - wouldn't it be sensible to switch off the firewall altogether until we are sure that she has a connection set up? Then you or someone else knowledgeable could help her get the firewall right, knowing that there wasn't two problems? As far as I know she hasn't actually managed a connection yet. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 8:15 pm, Margot wrote: I do use kppp - I'll try adding the ip addresses and get back to you. As for beating eurobell, I can't beat them and wish I'd never joined them! But never anticipated running Linux when I signed up with eurobell:-) Margot I've only half-followed this, so sorry if I'm making you repeat yourself. As I understand it, you appear to have a connection to your isp, but can't surf or collect email. Is that correct? If that's so, then kppp is set up ok. You then need to configure an account in a browser and email client. Which one do you want to use? One of us should be able to talk you through whichever you choose. Anne Anne, Thanks for your offer of help. I've put the text of my original message at the bottom of this reply so you can read it and see where I started from and those who have already seen it can stop scrolling before they get that far down. I can't surf, send or receive email, or access newsgroups. I've set up my account details in all the applications I can find - Kmail etc. - and I don't mind which I use for the moment... will probably develop a preference over time, but for now would be happy with anything I can get to work! I have followed ets suggestion - found gateway in kppp and changed it to 0.0.0.0, but still no luck. I have also added the DNS server IP addresses as instructed by Derek. Still getting the same error message host eurobell unknown. Unless Mandrake/Linux follows the Microsoft tradition of generating error messages that are completely unrelated to the actual problem, I assume the problem is something to do with host - but what? Would be grateful for any further suggestions. Margot Text of original message from 22/1/03: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
Title: RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) Try opening MCC and then security and turn off the firewall by clicking on the square that says everything, no firewall, then apply and then try your internet connection again. If that solves the problem you should be able to turn the firewall on again and still get a connection. HTH Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Margot Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 8:15 pm, Margot wrote: I do use kppp - I'll try adding the ip addresses and get back to you. As for beating eurobell, I can't beat them and wish I'd never joined them! But never anticipated running Linux when I signed up with eurobell:-) Margot I've only half-followed this, so sorry if I'm making you repeat yourself. As I understand it, you appear to have a connection to your isp, but can't surf or collect email. Is that correct? If that's so, then kppp is set up ok. You then need to configure an account in a browser and email client. Which one do you want to use? One of us should be able to talk you through whichever you choose. Anne Anne, Thanks for your offer of help. I've put the text of my original message at the bottom of this reply so you can read it and see where I started from and those who have already seen it can stop scrolling before they get that far down. I can't surf, send or receive email, or access newsgroups. I've set up my account details in all the applications I can find - Kmail etc. - and I don't mind which I use for the moment... will probably develop a preference over time, but for now would be happy with anything I can get to work! I have followed ets suggestion - found gateway in kppp and changed it to 0.0.0.0, but still no luck. I have also added the DNS server IP addresses as instructed by Derek. Still getting the same error message host eurobell unknown. Unless Mandrake/Linux follows the Microsoft tradition of generating error messages that are completely unrelated to the actual problem, I assume the problem is something to do with host - but what? Would be grateful for any further suggestions. Margot Text of original message from 22/1/03: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 6:02 pm, Margot wrote: I can't surf, send or receive email, or access newsgroups. I've set up my account details in all the applications I can find - Kmail etc. - and I don't mind which I use for the moment... will probably develop a preference over time, but for now would be happy with anything I can get to work! I have followed ets suggestion - found gateway in kppp and changed it to 0.0.0.0, but still no luck. I don't remember gateway in kppp - but that would be because I was not connecting over a lan. You don't need gateway for a single modem connection. If this is a cable adsl connection that may be different - I don't know. I have also added the DNS server IP addresses as instructed by Derek. Still getting the same error message host eurobell unknown. Unless Mandrake/Linux follows the Microsoft tradition of generating error messages that are completely unrelated to the actual problem, I assume the problem is something to do with host - but what? This and your related comment on the original post seem to me to point to the dns problem. I presume that your 'host eurobell unknown' comes when you put their url into a browser? If so, then it means that either you have spelled it wrong - unlikely - or that you are not connecting to a dns server to resolve it. Your isp will assign you a number, but unless you have told your setup the primary (and secondary if you know it) dns lookup address for your isp it cannot find the numerical address that it needs to translate a url. Does that make sense to you? It should sort out the web browsing. Would be grateful for any further suggestions. Margot Text of original message from 22/1/03: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. For email, the usual problem is the login. ISPs have different ideas about how you need to give the username (tiscali, for instance, require the whole [EMAIL PROTECTED], but most just require abc). Don't forget that it is case sensitive, as is your password. Another stumbling block is the authentication protocal. Eurobell should have told you whether it uses, for instance, chap or pap. Get the wrong one and you will get no further. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! This is a big plus. If you go into the windows setup and go through the properties screen for tcp/ip noting down every setting that's there it should help. Post the settings here if you need any clarification. I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. It's absolutely ludicrous. They probably can't talk you through as easily as in windows, because they can't see the screen layout, but the questions and answers are exactly the same whether it is windows or linux. Sorry I can't be too specific, as I don't know your setup, but I hope this has given you a few pointers. Come back with the windows settings if you need to. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
Hi What modem are you using?? Did you use the mandrake internet connection wizard?? Please give us some more information so we can help. Aaron On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 08:09, Margot wrote: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 1:09 pm, Margot wrote: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence Welcome Margot Two suggestions. First does this machine have an Ethernet interface? If yes, and you do not need it for a local network then disable it either in the BIOS settings, or by simply setting it to not start on boot in the Mandrake Network configuration. Second. Did you put your ISPs DNS server IP address into your dial configuration? I looked them up on the Eurobell site for you. They are 212.24.65.65 and 212.24.65.199 BTW: Eurobell are a typical Microsoft outfit. Their web pages do not work with Opera or Mozilla. I had to run Internet Explorer under Wine to read their site. Grrr makes me sick! HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 15:09, you wrote: My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. Most probably you use kppp for dial-up? If you dont, start using. Anyway, run kppp, then make (or if you already have it - edit) an account. See that ip addresses for DNS servers are there. If you dont ask them, beat eurobell until they tell you :) Should work. Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
what did you put for gateway.. I use 0.0.0.0 On Wednesday 22 January 2003 08:39 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 1:09 pm, Margot wrote: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence Welcome Margot Two suggestions. First does this machine have an Ethernet interface? If yes, and you do not need it for a local network then disable it either in the BIOS settings, or by simply setting it to not start on boot in the Mandrake Network configuration. Second. Did you put your ISPs DNS server IP address into your dial configuration? I looked them up on the Eurobell site for you. They are 212.24.65.65 and 212.24.65.199 BTW: Eurobell are a typical Microsoft outfit. Their web pages do not work with Opera or Mozilla. I had to run Internet Explorer under Wine to read their site. Grrr makes me sick! HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Aaron Mehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) Hi What modem are you using?? 3Com US Robotics 56K Message Modem Did you use the mandrake internet connection wizard?? Yes - several times! Please give us some more information so we can help. What else do you need to know? And, as I'm very new to this, where do I need to look? Aaron On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 08:09, Margot wrote: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 1:09 pm, Margot wrote: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence Welcome Margot Two suggestions. First does this machine have an Ethernet interface? If yes, and you do not need it for a local network then disable it either in the BIOS settings, or by simply setting it to not start on boot in the Mandrake Network configuration. I have no idea if there is an ethernet interface. Where do I look to check this? If I find one, HOW do I disable it or set it not to start? Second. Did you put your ISPs DNS server IP address into your dial configuration? I looked them up on the Eurobell site for you. They are 212.24.65.65 and 212.24.65.199 All they told me was server assigned! BTW: Eurobell are a typical Microsoft outfit. Their web pages do not work with Opera or Mozilla. I had to run Internet Explorer under Wine to read their site. Grrr makes me sick! HTH derek I'd be happy to change ISP because of their attitude, but I use their phone service so it would be a lot of hassle. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) what did you put for gateway.. I use 0.0.0.0 Where is gateway? (Probably a stupid question, but I'm very new at this...) Margot On Wednesday 22 January 2003 08:39 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 1:09 pm, Margot wrote: I'm a very newbie running Mandrake 9 and I can't get it to connect to the internet. My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. I've tried setting up my details (username, password, server names as supplied by eurobell), but when I use the various applications to try to access www, usenet, email accounts I just get error messages - message wording varies depending on the application, but amounting to host eurobell unknown. I've checked the documentation on the machine and printed out several trees worth, but still can't crack this. The only documentation I found that seems relevant told me that the host name should be in the /etc/hosts file. This is what my /etc/hosts file contains: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.50 home No mention of eurobell in the file. Should I add something here and, if so, what? I've been reading this list for a couple of weeks and picked up some useful tips, but nobody seems to have exactly the same problem as me. Luckily I still have the old Win 98 machine running so I can access the mailing list - but it is annoying to have to unplug the modem and keep moving it from one machine to the other as they are in different rooms! I tried eurobell's tech support, but their first question was which version of Windows do you have? and the conversation went downhill from there. Can anyone help? TIA Margot Lawrence Welcome Margot Two suggestions. First does this machine have an Ethernet interface? If yes, and you do not need it for a local network then disable it either in the BIOS settings, or by simply setting it to not start on boot in the Mandrake Network configuration. Second. Did you put your ISPs DNS server IP address into your dial configuration? I looked them up on the Eurobell site for you. They are 212.24.65.65 and 212.24.65.199 BTW: Eurobell are a typical Microsoft outfit. Their web pages do not work with Opera or Mozilla. I had to run Internet Explorer under Wine to read their site. Grrr makes me sick! HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
- Original Message - From: Vahur Lokk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!) On Wednesday 22 January 2003 15:09, you wrote: My ISP is eurobell. I've set up the connection in MCC, and that bit seems to work OK - it dials, verifies my username and password, and is clocking up a penny a minute for the connection when I test it - but I can't get any further than that. Most probably you use kppp for dial-up? If you dont, start using. Anyway, run kppp, then make (or if you already have it - edit) an account. See that ip addresses for DNS servers are there. If you dont ask them, beat eurobell until they tell you :) Should work. Wahur I do use kppp - I'll try adding the ip addresses and get back to you. As for beating eurobell, I can't beat them and wish I'd never joined them! But never anticipated running Linux when I signed up with eurobell:-) Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2003 8:15 pm, Margot wrote: I do use kppp - I'll try adding the ip addresses and get back to you. As for beating eurobell, I can't beat them and wish I'd never joined them! But never anticipated running Linux when I signed up with eurobell:-) Margot I've only half-followed this, so sorry if I'm making you repeat yourself. As I understand it, you appear to have a connection to your isp, but can't surf or collect email. Is that correct? If that's so, then kppp is set up ok. You then need to configure an account in a browser and email client. Which one do you want to use? One of us should be able to talk you through whichever you choose. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)
Welcome Margot Two suggestions. First does this machine have an Ethernet interface? If yes, and you do not need it for a local network then disable it either in the BIOS settings, or by simply setting it to not start on boot in the Mandrake Network configuration. I have no idea if there is an ethernet interface. Where do I look to check this? If I find one, HOW do I disable it or set it not to start? Do not worry. Just do the DNS setting bit Second. Did you put your ISPs DNS server IP address into your dial configuration? I looked them up on the Eurobell site for you. They are 212.24.65.65 and 212.24.65.199 All they told me was server assigned! Sure. But put the numbers in anyway. Just run through the wizard in MandrakeControl CentreNetworkingNetwork Connection, and you will see where to add them. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection sharing with Windows?
On Sunday 08 Dec 2002 6:50 am, magnet wrote: Hi, Right, just been here with this problem. Set a specific IP addy as you had for the PC and use netmask 255.255.255.0 Disable the WINS Configuration. Add gateway to point to your linux box. Here is the part I had to change for some reason. Enable DNS Configuration. My linux hostname is linux1.local.net. For host add the first part of your machines hostname [linux1] then add the last part as the domain [local.net]. Add your gateway 192.168.0.1 into the DNS Server Search Order. Add your last part of your domain [local.net] into the DNS Suffix Search Order. This got my winME laptop to connect using the linux gateway and it has no effect on samba here, and retains your choice of static IP addresses you use. Hope this can help you. regards magnet My grandchildren's two '98 machines used to connect through my 8.2 setup without problems (all is different now, both version and connection, but still OK). Our setup was as far as I can see just what magnet describes. Come back if you still have problems. It's certainly workable. I'm going to be away for a few days, but if the problem's still there I'll check it out next weekend. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection sharing with Windows?
On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 16:23, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Got a 3 comp LAN. My main computer is running Linux - 56k connection and both the other comps do sharing under Mandrake v8.2 just fine. Yeah, its slow, but I let my sons browse to find school articles sometimes (with me right over their shoulders!). Anyways, my 12 year old picked up this Windows game, Earth Beyond. Not a bad looking game but its Windows only, won't run under WineX and is *online* only. So he asked me to set it up so he could play it under Windows on his machine - with my main Linux comp as gateway. So...I normally have static ip addressess assigned to our machines - like this: darkforce 192.168.0.1 (my main comp) darkforce2 192.168.0.2 (12 yr olds) darkforce3 192.168.0.3 (9 yr olds) I didn't have to do hardly anything for the Linux side of things to work like this. Windows won't find the 'Net like this though. I finally did the right-click Network Neighborhood/properties routine, added my IP address as gateway, and I had to pick automatically assign number. This worked. However, when I do this, I can't use Samba from my machine to access his anymore (or even ping each other). Change his settings back to a static IP - Samba works again, and we can ping each other - and he can't accesss the 'Net again. I can just change this everytime I want to use one or the other, but its a bit of a hassle (and besides that - Windows always asks for a freaking reboot everytime!) I'm sure there is a way to share connections with Windows 98SE and still use an assigned IP address with Samba? Does anyone else have a setup like this and can help? Thanks much! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Well, that is rather strange considering... Are you running IPCHAINS or IPTABLES on the firewall? -- Sun Dec 8 20:40:00 EST 2002 8:40pm up 25 min, 4 users, load average: 0.31, 0.12, 0.11 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn To IBM, 'open' means there is a modicum of interoperability among some of their equipment. -- Harv Masterson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection sharing with Windows?
On Sunday 08 December 2002 04:08 am, you wrote: My grandchildren's two '98 machines used to connect through my 8.2 setup without problems (all is different now, both version and connection, but still OK). Our setup was as far as I can see just what magnet describes. Come back if you still have problems. It's certainly workable. I'm going to be away for a few days, but if the problem's still there I'll check it out next weekend. Anne Gonna try that - I'll let you all know... :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Though in principle it is not as unlikely as all that. Our family lan (3 generations) entails 5 macines, accessing through a router/adsl. The router has its own firewall, and we made a choice to stick with static IP addresses. I would not want that changing without a very good reason, nor do I see why I would want a firewall on my personal machine. I think there should be an information screen that says something like 'If you have any of the following situations... then you should say 'yes' to installing the firewall. Anne Hello, I've missed most of this thread so excuse me if I repeat anything etc. I have 2 computers at home, and I use GuardDog as a firewall for when I go olnine. To share the internet, I do a X -query tux350 (name of comp) to connect to the internet-comp's X server. That way, not only do I share the internet hassle-free, but I can use the same KMail settings, Konqueror favorites/bookmarks and settings et al. It's easy to set up, and I've found my PII/350 can support 2 KDE seesions quite well (just hold the loopback filesystems though). Hope this helps! REgards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet connection sharing with Windows?
Got a 3 comp LAN. My main computer is running Linux - 56k connection and both the other comps do sharing under Mandrake v8.2 just fine. Yeah, its slow, but I let my sons browse to find school articles sometimes (with me right over their shoulders!). Anyways, my 12 year old picked up this Windows game, Earth Beyond. Not a bad looking game but its Windows only, won't run under WineX and is *online* only. So he asked me to set it up so he could play it under Windows on his machine - with my main Linux comp as gateway. So...I normally have static ip addressess assigned to our machines - like this: darkforce 192.168.0.1 (my main comp) darkforce2 192.168.0.2 (12 yr olds) darkforce3 192.168.0.3 (9 yr olds) I didn't have to do hardly anything for the Linux side of things to work like this. Windows won't find the 'Net like this though. I finally did the right-click Network Neighborhood/properties routine, added my IP address as gateway, and I had to pick automatically assign number. This worked. However, when I do this, I can't use Samba from my machine to access his anymore (or even ping each other). Change his settings back to a static IP - Samba works again, and we can ping each other - and he can't accesss the 'Net again. I can just change this everytime I want to use one or the other, but its a bit of a hassle (and besides that - Windows always asks for a freaking reboot everytime!) I'm sure there is a way to share connections with Windows 98SE and still use an assigned IP address with Samba? Does anyone else have a setup like this and can help? Thanks much! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet connection sharing with Windows?
Hi, Right, just been here with this problem. Set a specific IP addy as you had for the PC and use netmask 255.255.255.0 Disable the WINS Configuration. Add gateway to point to your linux box. Here is the part I had to change for some reason. Enable DNS Configuration. My linux hostname is linux1.local.net. For host add the first part of your machines hostname [linux1] then add the last part as the domain [local.net]. Add your gateway 192.168.0.1 into the DNS Server Search Order. Add your last part of your domain [local.net] into the DNS Suffix Search Order. This got my winME laptop to connect using the linux gateway and it has no effect on samba here, and retains your choice of static IP addresses you use. Hope this can help you. regards magnet On Sunday 08 Dec 2002 5:23 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Got a 3 comp LAN. My main computer is running Linux - 56k connection and both the other comps do sharing under Mandrake v8.2 just fine. Yeah, its slow, but I let my sons browse to find school articles sometimes (with me right over their shoulders!). Anyways, my 12 year old picked up this Windows game, Earth Beyond. Not a bad looking game but its Windows only, won't run under WineX and is *online* only. So he asked me to set it up so he could play it under Windows on his machine - with my main Linux comp as gateway. So...I normally have static ip addressess assigned to our machines - like this: darkforce 192.168.0.1 (my main comp) darkforce2 192.168.0.2 (12 yr olds) darkforce3 192.168.0.3 (9 yr olds) I didn't have to do hardly anything for the Linux side of things to work like this. Windows won't find the 'Net like this though. I finally did the right-click Network Neighborhood/properties routine, added my IP address as gateway, and I had to pick automatically assign number. This worked. However, when I do this, I can't use Samba from my machine to access his anymore (or even ping each other). Change his settings back to a static IP - Samba works again, and we can ping each other - and he can't accesss the 'Net again. I can just change this everytime I want to use one or the other, but its a bit of a hassle (and besides that - Windows always asks for a freaking reboot everytime!) I'm sure there is a way to share connections with Windows 98SE and still use an assigned IP address with Samba? Does anyone else have a setup like this and can help? Thanks much! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 12:57 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 10:52 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 21:38, Anne Wilson wrote: Stephen - under 8.2 the MCC set up ICS without any problems whatsoever. Reading this thread suggests that Mdk have tried to improve matters by automatically installing a firewall. Is that correct? If so, I hope someone has pointed out to them that a choice would be useful g Anne Yeah, know that - but someone was asking about something so easy - and the answers were rather complex...so I threw this in the ring... Really hate seeing people banging their heads against walls for something like this without simple answers... BTW, I'm going to put up a site dedicated to tips'n'hints shortly - for both linux and M$...along with links to sites/files/etc etc I agree with Anne that there should have been a choice at the point of enabling ICS under mdk9 as to whether you want the firewall installed or not or at least there should have been some more documentation on what it did and why. I agree a firewall is no bad thing and have had one on the laptop (M$ ME) since I got it. I realise part of that install, if needed, does install the dchpd stuff needed to share a connection, and as Anne said, ICS installed and worked fine for me under mdk8.2. Maybe my set-up here isn't as simple as that which most people have. There are 6 machines in a stack here, some running 8.2 and some running 9.0 plus a winME laptop, not your normal home computer user's system. My frustration was through the way installing a standard piece of software in mdk9.0, that decided by itself to change my static IP, not tell anything it had done so, not informed the network it had changed it, then dumped me, the user, into the dark as to why a working LAN/FTP/SAMBA/SQUID setup suddenly fails to respond and then adds insult by denying me/my network access to files, breaking ftp, scripts and internet access, all for the sake of not giving me a choice. That kinda sux when it happens. Even disabling the firewall from within MCC didn't restore the situation here. Had I been new to linux I might have considered not continuing with it after such an experience, although in fairness, not many newbies would dive in with a 7 machine lan. They have my utmost respect if they do though 8-)) gShield was installed and working in 10 minutes on a fresh install, with no stinking shorewall install and no ICS requests needed through MCC. I highly recommend it. Right, I'll put my soapbox away now. Vary rarely do I have a sound-off in here, but my original plea for help followed a lot of frustration and several reinstalls to flush the problems from the system, reset up and playing about with the LAN in general trying to get everything talking again after the initial firewall install so in no way did I consider it an easy problem. Like most stuff in linux, it can be solved by one way or another, and with lists like this you will either get the answer or a gentle shove in the right direction to help you find an answer. So, for all the times I have been shoved in here g and got a result, and for all the times in the future that I'll ask for help and probably recieve it, I say Thanks to you all :) regards magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
On Friday 06 Dec 2002 9:39 am, magnet wrote: On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 12:57 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 10:52 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 21:38, Anne Wilson wrote: Stephen - under 8.2 the MCC set up ICS without any problems whatsoever. Reading this thread suggests that Mdk have tried to improve matters by automatically installing a firewall. Is that correct? If so, I hope someone has pointed out to them that a choice would be useful g snip I agree with Anne that there should have been a choice at the point of enabling ICS under mdk9 as to whether you want the firewall installed or not or at least there should have been some more documentation on what it did and why. I agree a firewall is no bad thing and have had one on the laptop (M$ ME) since I got it. I realise part of that install, if needed, does install the dchpd stuff needed to share a connection, and as Anne said, ICS installed and worked fine for me under mdk8.2. Maybe my set-up here isn't as simple as that which most people have. There are 6 machines in a stack here, some running 8.2 and some running 9.0 plus a winME laptop, not your normal home computer user's system. My frustration was through the way installing a standard piece of software in mdk9.0, that decided by itself to change my static IP, not tell anything it had done so, not informed the network it had changed it, then dumped me, the user, into the dark as to why a working LAN/FTP/SAMBA/SQUID setup suddenly fails to respond and then adds insult by denying me/my network access to files, breaking ftp, scripts and internet access, all for the sake of not giving me a choice. That kinda sux when it happens. Even disabling the firewall from within MCC didn't restore the situation here. Had I been new to linux I might have considered not continuing with it after such an experience, although in fairness, not many newbies would dive in with a 7 machine lan. They have my utmost respect if they do though 8-)) Though in principle it is not as unlikely as all that. Our family lan (3 generations) entails 5 macines, accessing through a router/adsl. The router has its own firewall, and we made a choice to stick with static IP addresses. I would not want that changing without a very good reason, nor do I see why I would want a firewall on my personal machine. I think there should be an information screen that says something like 'If you have any of the following situations... then you should say 'yes' to installing the firewall. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:52, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 21:38, Anne Wilson wrote: Stephen - under 8.2 the MCC set up ICS without any problems whatsoever. Reading this thread suggests that Mdk have tried to improve matters by automatically installing a firewall. Is that correct? If so, I hope someone has pointed out to them that a choice would be useful g Anne Yeah, know that - but someone was asking about something so easy - and the answers were rather complex...so I threw this in the ring... Really hate seeing people banging their heads against walls for something like this without simple answers... BTW, I'm going to put up a site dedicated to tips'n'hints shortly - for both linux and M$...along with links to sites/files/etc etc Stephen: It's been done already. Randy has twiki running at: http://twiki.org He pushes a lot for people to assist and add to the pages there. Check it out before you decide to go on your own. I know that each person has his own ideal way of doing the job but this collabrative effort seems reasonable. Then theres the TLDP who could always use some help as well. Whichever way you go your input/output would always be appreciated. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
On Wednesday 04 Dec 2002 7:28 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Ok...there's been a few questions from people as to how Internet Connection Sharing, or ICS in Windows, can be setup and utilized on a single modem, with a single ethernet card on a small network (or a home network - whatever)...well, for those that need it up and running FAST without heaps of BS and hassle, here's the skinny using IPCHAINS. Mind you that YOU are responsible for setting up the other firewall rules as each of us does our own thing...ok? Locate your ipchains script, and at the bottom of the script, add the following (and make sure to sub YOUR internet IP network where mine is - I'm using the basic 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0, but some of y'all are doing different things) /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY /sbin/ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQ On your client machines, I'm assuming you're using static IP's, so make sure you add your 192.168.0.1 as the gateway, and as one of the DNS servers - the other DNS server should be the one for your ISP (main one, or you can choose from the thousands of other DNS servers out in the world if you want to be difficult) Bloody easy - and if you're in a tight spot as I've been before, and the other users on your home network are freaking out cuz you're mucking around in linux and they're sitting there patiently waiting for ICQ or Yahoo! Messenger to work again, at least this offers a quick fix. Been there done that! Stephen - under 8.2 the MCC set up ICS without any problems whatsoever. Reading this thread suggests that Mdk have tried to improve matters by automatically installing a firewall. Is that correct? If so, I hope someone has pointed out to them that a choice would be useful g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 21:38, Anne Wilson wrote: Stephen - under 8.2 the MCC set up ICS without any problems whatsoever. Reading this thread suggests that Mdk have tried to improve matters by automatically installing a firewall. Is that correct? If so, I hope someone has pointed out to them that a choice would be useful g Anne Yeah, know that - but someone was asking about something so easy - and the answers were rather complex...so I threw this in the ring... Really hate seeing people banging their heads against walls for something like this without simple answers... BTW, I'm going to put up a site dedicated to tips'n'hints shortly - for both linux and M$...along with links to sites/files/etc etc -- Wed Dec 4 21:45:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn A lady with one of her ears applied To an open keyhole heard, inside, Two female gossips in converse free -- The subject engaging them was she. I think, said one, and my husband thinks That she's a prying, inquisitive minx! As soon as no more of it she could hear The lady, indignant, removed her ear. I will not stay, she said with a pout, To hear my character lied about! -- Gopete Sherany Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet Connection Sharing - SUPER EASY
Ok...there's been a few questions from people as to how Internet Connection Sharing, or ICS in Windows, can be setup and utilized on a single modem, with a single ethernet card on a small network (or a home network - whatever)...well, for those that need it up and running FAST without heaps of BS and hassle, here's the skinny using IPCHAINS. Mind you that YOU are responsible for setting up the other firewall rules as each of us does our own thing...ok? Locate your ipchains script, and at the bottom of the script, add the following (and make sure to sub YOUR internet IP network where mine is - I'm using the basic 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0, but some of y'all are doing different things) /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY /sbin/ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQ On your client machines, I'm assuming you're using static IP's, so make sure you add your 192.168.0.1 as the gateway, and as one of the DNS servers - the other DNS server should be the one for your ISP (main one, or you can choose from the thousands of other DNS servers out in the world if you want to be difficult) Bloody easy - and if you're in a tight spot as I've been before, and the other users on your home network are freaking out cuz you're mucking around in linux and they're sitting there patiently waiting for ICQ or Yahoo! Messenger to work again, at least this offers a quick fix. Been there done that! -- Wed Dec 4 18:20:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn If you sit down at a poker game and don't see a sucker, get up. You're the sucker. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection
On Wednesday 13 Nov 2002 3:07 am, Miguel M wrote: Hey Everyone, Im having trouble connecting to the Internet with Mandrake 9.0 via my cable modem. I have be going at this for like a week now. Reading away at HOWTOS at the Linux Documentation project site and what not. Just about everything I could get my eyes on. I have like tripled check my network configuration and all the right numbers are in the right place. I don't understand whats going on. The only thing I think that could be messing it up is that I don't understand what they mean by host name. Could that be the problem? Thanks for your time. Any reply would be greatly appreciated. Thanks BTW, Im using a ethernet port thats built into the motherboard, could that be a factor as well? Your Host name is the 'name' of your computer. You set it in Mandrake ControlCentreNetworkConnection go through the wizard and hostname is one of the options to set. Use the format for example 'miguel.localdomain' (The localdomain bit is important if you ever run a mail server) *SOME* cable modem operators require that the Hostname should be the same as your account name with the ISP in which case there is a little trick to perform to fool it. (described here) http://www.club-nihil.net/mub/viewtopic.php?t=5820highlight=hostname It is more likely however that you simply need to configure your Lan interface correctly. Who is the ISP? and how do you configure Windows to access the cable modem? For example is DHCP enabled or disabled? You should also check that Internet and network services are running in MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 14:07, Miguel M wrote: Hey Everyone, Im having trouble connecting to the Internet with Mandrake 9.0 via my cable modem. I have be going at this for like a week now. Reading away at HOWTOS at the Linux Documentation project site and what not. Just about everything I could get my eyes on. I have like tripled check my network configuration and all the right numbers are in the right place. I don't understand whats going on. The only thing I think that could be messing it up is that I don't understand what they mean by host name. Could that be the problem? Thanks for your time. Any reply would be greatly appreciated. Thanks BTW, Im using a ethernet port thats built into the motherboard, could that be a factor as well? = -Miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure the drivers for the ethernet port on your motherboard are being loaded and are working? -- Thu Nov 14 08:45:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' |linux user:267497 doppler effect Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
