[newbie] Can't set nomail!

2005-03-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
For various family reasons, things will be rather chaotic for the next 2-3 
weeks. Consequently I will not be doing any computing.

As I don't want hundreds of postings waiting for me when I am back on the 
computer, I have been trying to set nomail for both newbie and expert, 
following the instructions in the Sympa help file, but can't.

I have tried three different ways to set nomail, but none of them work - I am 
still getting all the postings.

I tried SET newbie NOMAIL in the body of the e-mail, with no subject: the 
same but with SET newbie NOMAIL also as the subject, and also with SET 
newbie|* NOMAIL in the body (both with and without a subject). 

This was repeated for the expert list.

I can't think of anything else to try :(

All were sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which I am certain is the 
correct address.

So, PLEASE can someone tell me where I am going wrong, and how to temporarily 
suspend the postings. I wonder if it is me, or if it is Sympa playing up?

Many thanks

Keith


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Re: [newbie] Can't set nomail!

2005-03-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 11 Mar 2005 17:04, Paul wrote:
 Op Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:00:08 + schreef Keith Powell:
 All were sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which I am certain
 is the  correct address.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be better...

 Good luck!

 Paul

Thanks, Paul,

If you don't hear from me again, it's worked!!

Keith


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Re: [newbie] Gnome2.8 problem

2005-03-01 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:03, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Monday 28 February 2005 03:10 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
  In trying to sort the problem, I messed things up altogether and
  Gnome would not start.
 
  So I uninstalled Gnome completely, and reinstalled all from Thac's
  packages.
 
  Now, Nautilus starts and then I get an error message:
 
 
  There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Daemon.
 
  Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not
  work correctly.
 
  The Settings Daemon restarted too many times.
 
  The last error message was:
  Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure
  occurred.
 
  Gnome will try to restart the Settings daemon next time you log in.
 
 
  But I just get this message each time.
 
  There is no Nautilus desktop.
 
  Incidentally, it would not install the Gnome-Control-Center
  normally. I had to force its installation.
 
  Help, please, someone.
 
  Keith

 Sometimes, not always, a -devel file may be missing and that will put
 the hurt on the main app. Can you do a urpmi on say gnome-devel*
 and see what pops up?

Thanks for the suggestion, Dennis.

There wasn't a gnome-devel file to install, just many, many libgnome-* 
library files not installed.

Unfortunately I have a monthly cap on my broadband usage, and am almost 
there for this month; so I wasn't able to download them all to see if 
any of them solved the problem. My new broadband month starts next 
week-end, so I will have to wait until then before I can continue 
trying to find the solution.

Thanks again for your reply.

Keith 


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Re: [newbie] Hard disk error messages

2005-03-01 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:38, riccardo wrote:
 On Monday 28 February 2005 09:31 am, Keith Powell wrote:
  I know that hard drives are cheap, but I don't want to have to go
  to the trouble and expense of buying a new one unless I have to.
  Also, it means salvaging all the data from it.

 _

  ~ on the other hand, data loss is a 'Pain', thus, maybe it is
 cheaper to have a couple of spare HardDisks, just to do off-site,
 whole-system RSYNC backups on alternate weekends  :)

  { probably takes about 15 minutes to rsync backup an 8 gigabyte
 system - then unplug the spare HD and store it, off-site. }


 best rgds
 _

Thanks for the reply.

Your suggestion of the RSYNC backups seems a useful one, and I will 
investigate how to do it.

I think I will abandon the drive-seek error drive while I can still 
get the data from it.

Cheers

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[newbie] Hard disk error messages

2005-02-28 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have a Seagate hard drive, and when I close down, I get Hard Drive Seek 
Error messages.

However, while it is in use, it appears to be working properly and without any 
problems.

Do these messages mean that it is about to pack up completely, and can it be 
salvaged? I wouldn't think that drive seek errors could be rectified.

I know that hard drives are cheap, but I don't want to have to go to the 
trouble and expense of buying a new one unless I have to. Also, it means 
salvaging all the data from it. 

Many thanks

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[newbie] Gnome 2.8 problem

2005-02-28 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have installed Gnome2.8, using Thac's packages, but have a problem.

There's no desktop panel!

The gnome panel package was installed, so I have uninstalled it and installed 
it again. Still nothing, so I have no menus, applets, and so on.

Also, if I try to change the background from the default, there is just a 
*very* quick flash of the box in which to change it, and then it's back to 
the default desktop. The desktop has its normal icons on, and everything else 
which is called up by the mouse right click, works.

As root, there is no panel, but I can change the background.

The gnome2.6, which is with Mandrake 10.1OE works great - I would just have 
liked a later version. I installed the upgrade whilst in KDE, but did not 
uninstall the previous Gnome first.

I can't find what the problem is, so any advice will be very gratefully 
received.

Many thanks

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[newbie] Gnome2.8 problem

2005-02-28 Per discussione Keith Powell
In trying to sort the problem, I messed things up altogether and Gnome would 
not start.

So I uninstalled Gnome completely, and reinstalled all from Thac's packages.

Now, Nautilus starts and then I get an error message:


There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Daemon.

Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work 
correctly.

The Settings Daemon restarted too many times.

The last error message was:
Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred.

Gnome will try to restart the Settings daemon next time you log in.


But I just get this message each time.

There is no Nautilus desktop.

Incidentally, it would not install the Gnome-Control-Center normally. I had to 
force its installation.

And I did want to try the new Gnome :(

Help, please, someone.

Keith


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Re: [newbie] Gnome 2.8 problem

2005-02-28 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 28 Feb 2005 19:39, john wrote:
 Keith Powell wrote:
 I have installed Gnome2.8, using Thac's packages, but have a problem.
 
 There's no desktop panel!
 
 The gnome panel package was installed, so I have uninstalled it and
  installed it again. Still nothing, so I have no menus, applets, and so
  on.
 
 Also, if I try to change the background from the default, there is just a
 *very* quick flash of the box in which to change it, and then it's back to
 the default desktop. The desktop has its normal icons on, and everything
  else which is called up by the mouse right click, works.
 
 As root, there is no panel, but I can change the background.
 
 The gnome2.6, which is with Mandrake 10.1OE works great - I would just
  have liked a later version. I installed the upgrade whilst in KDE, but
  did not uninstall the previous Gnome first.
 
 I can't find what the problem is, so any advice will be very gratefully
 received.
 

 Keith
 I have had the same problem with gnome. I ran menu updates both from
 terminal and from menu drake but nothing has worked. I uninstalled gnome
 2.6 first and tried with same results. I actually had the menus at one
 point and they disappeared when I was adding or upgrading another
 program. Don't know which one  might have caused it. You might also
 check the gnome desktop forum at  //gnomedesktop.org/
 http://gnomedesktop.org/node?PHPSESSID=832faaac1ab9c3227723ebad9b767b83.
 John

Thanks, John.

I got your message just after I had sent my last one.

I also run PCLinuxOS (a derivative of Mandrake), which started off as just a 
KDE distribution. Then Texstar added Gnome2.8 to the repository and I 
installed it. No problems at all! Very confusing!!

I will look at the gnome desktop forum tomorrow. Too tired tonight after 
struggling with Gnome for many hours.

Cheers

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[newbie] KDE upgrade

2005-01-29 Per discussione Keith Powell
Some weeks ago, there was a long thread on problems with upgrading KDE 
using the Thac packages. Since then, I have not seen anything about it.

Have the problems been sorted, and can we now upgrade KDE?

Many thanks for any information.

Keith



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Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade

2005-01-02 Per discussione Keith Powell
In reply to my question on how to upgrade KDE with the packages on 
CD4,

On Saturday 01 Jan 2005 19:21, linuxgirlie wrote:
 I installed KDE 3.3 bu doing the following:

 Copy all the KDE files into /tmp
 Login as root (for some reason there is a bug, may have been fixed
 now) that won't allow you to add media under other users.
 Go to Mdkc Control Centre (configure your computer) and add new
 media...eg the folder with kde in it.
 Once this is done go to install software
 Type in KDE
 Look for all the files with 3.3.* (* being your version)
 Add them, with a tick

 Click install.

 Sorry if this is to basic, just trying to put it in some sort of
 understandable order!!

 Jo


Thanks very much for your help. I appreciate your prompt reply.

No, it isn't too basic! Generally speaking, I think that an answer 
cannot be too basic. If a thing is explained in a simple way, more 
people reading it are likely to understand it and get help from it.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade

2005-01-02 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 01 Jan 2005 20:33, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Saturday 01 January 2005 10:25 am, Keith Powell wrote:
 
  In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3
  which is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have
  been a complete failure. 
 
  So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install
  KDE3.3 from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2.
SNIP

 Here's how I did it (then). I put in CD4 and cd'd to the
 KDE3.3 directory. There I ran 'rpm -Fvh *.rpm' which returned
 some missing dependencies. Mostly libjack* IIRC. I already had
 online 10.1 sources set up, so I used those to get the deps. You
 might be able to use your CD sources.

 That upgraded KDE packages I already had from the many from
 the 10.1 CD install. (which is what 'rpm -Fvh' does, see 'man
 rpm'). After the upgrade was finished, I ran 'upall' as root;
 [ alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb  updatedb  ldconfig -v 
 update-menus -v -n' ]

 Then logged out, back into KDE, using Ctrl+Alt+Bsp to re-start
 the X server while I was logged out. If you are setup to auto
 login to your desktop, this will bypass the login next step.

 For my experience and opinion: _Don't do it_!  If you really
 want KDE3.3, setup cooker sources and use urpmi to update to KDE
 3.3.2, (complete cooker 10.2)  You'll be better off.   KDE3.3.1
 shipped with 10.1 is alpha an buggy quality, IME. Cooker is
 currently stable. Do it NOW while cooker is slow for the holidays

Thanks for your reply and the help. I appreciate it.

I now know two good ways of doing the upgrade, yours and Jo's.

Thanks also for the warning about the buggy quality of the packages on 
the CD. I must think about what to do.

Cheers

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[newbie] KDE upgrade

2005-01-01 Per discussione Keith Powell
After several frustrating hours of failure, I am afraid I will have to 
ask!

In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3 which 
is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have been a 
complete failure. I have tried everything that I can think of, using 
urpmi.  None work.  :(  I also can't get Install Packages to find the 
new KDE on disk4. Tried all sorts of add media as well.

So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install KDE3.3 
from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2. I can't find the answer in 
twiki or the archives.

Very many thanks for any help.

Keith


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[newbie] Quanta Fonts

2004-12-24 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have been looking at Quanta for the first time.

Clicking on the Fonts tag, shows the Face box empty. Should it be, or should 
there be a selection of fonts listed from which to chose, or do I have to 
insert the font names manually?

If there should be fonts listed, how do I get Quanta to see them, please?

I can't find an answer on Google.

Thanks

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[newbie] A .tar.gz problem.

2004-12-15 Per discussione Keith Powell
I am trying to install a .tar.gz program but, as is usual with me, it is 
proving a disaster. I can rarely get the things to install, but end up with 
lots of error messages. I hate these type of files and usually don't have 
anything to do with them.

However, I would like to install this one, if possible. 


The last few lines of ,/configure are:

appending configuration tag F77 to libtool
./configure: line 19136: test: too many arguments
checking for X... no
checking QTDIR... /usr/lib/qt3/
checking Qt version... grep: /usr/lib/qt3//include/qglobal.h: No such file or 
directory
configure: error: *** Don't know how to handle this Qt major version

I assume that this means I have the wrong version of QT installed, but I don't 
know which version is required by the program. The version of qt3 which I 
have installed with Mandrake 10.1 Official, is 3.3.3-26. There is no other 
version either on the disks or in the download sources. My /usr/lib/qt3 
folder does not have include or qglobal.h.

Please can someone help?

Many thanks

Keith 

 


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Re: [newbie] A .tar.gz problem. [Success]

2004-12-15 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 13:48, Nick de Graeve wrote:
 Keith Powell wrote:
  I am trying to install a .tar.gz program but, as is usual with me, it is
  proving a disaster. I can rarely get the things to install, but end up
  with lots of error messages. I hate these type of files and usually don't
  have anything to do with them.
 
  However, I would like to install this one, if possible.
 
 
  The last few lines of ,/configure are:
 
  appending configuration tag F77 to libtool
  ./configure: line 19136: test: too many arguments
  checking for X... no
  checking QTDIR... /usr/lib/qt3/
  checking Qt version... grep: /usr/lib/qt3//include/qglobal.h: No such
  file or directory
  configure: error: *** Don't know how to handle this Qt major version
 
  I assume that this means I have the wrong version of QT installed, but I
  don't know which version is required by the program. The version of qt3
  which I have installed with Mandrake 10.1 Official, is 3.3.3-26. There is
  no other version either on the disks or in the download sources. My
  /usr/lib/qt3 folder does not have include or qglobal.h.

 It indicates you have to install the devel packages:

 Which package it is in?

 [root: ~]# urpmf qglobal.h
 libqt3-devel:/usr/lib/qt3/include/qglobal.h
 libqt3-devel:/usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qglobal-h.html

 So type

 [root: ~]# urpmi libqt3-devel

 and try ./configure again.


 Nick.

Thank you very much for you very prompt reply and the help, Nick.

I installed libqt3-devel and the installation went smoothly with no more 
problems. One of my very rare .tar.gz successes - thanks to your help!

Doing a urpmf qglobal.h, now gives the same locations as you said.


Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (update)

2004-12-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
Things have changed regarding my shutdown problem, but have got even more 
confusing.

But first, I have just connected for the first time today, to get my e-mails 
and postings. I have found that there is nothing from the list between about 
eight o'clock last night (GMT, or UTC) and mid-day today. I have no idea 
where any postings between those times have gone to, so if anyone has been 
kind enough to send me a reply, I am afraid that it has gone :(  I'll look 
in the archives to see if I can find the missing postings.

I have been busy trying to sort things.

I have installed several distributions in turn, on my spare hard drive to see 
what shutdown problems there are with other distros. There were none with two 
of them, so I installed Mandrake10.0 Official. 

That gave me the choice of several boots:

Linux (no shutdown problems)
Linux-smp (wouldn't shut down)
linux-nonfb (no shutdown problems)
263-7 (no shutdown problems)
Failsafe and floppy, which I didn't test.

Before, with 10.0, I have only had the choice of Linux, 263-7, failsafe and 
floppy.

So, I did a clean installation of 10.1.

That gave me the choice of:

Linux (wouldn't shut down)
Linux-nonfb (wouldn't shut down)
Failsafe and floppy 

So, I am back to 10.0 on my spare hard drive to send this, and will use that 
unless someone could please give me some advice about the work-around 
needed with 10.1. Does it still look like hardware problems?

By the way, sorry if I went a bit over the top last night, but I was tired 
and the information I was given was a real blow. I had only got my new 
computer the previous day.

Any help will be very gratefully received.

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem (solved)

2004-12-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 11 Dec 2004 16:14, Keith Powell wrote:
 Things have changed regarding my shutdown problem, but have got even more
 confusing.

 I have installed several distributions in turn, on my spare hard drive to
 see what shutdown problems there are with other distros. There were none
 with two of them, so I installed Mandrake10.0 Official.

 That gave me the choice of several boots:

 Linux (no shutdown problems)
 Linux-smp (wouldn't shut down)
 linux-nonfb (no shutdown problems)
 263-7 (no shutdown problems)
 Failsafe and floppy, which I didn't test.

 Before, with 10.0, I have only had the choice of Linux, 263-7, failsafe and
 floppy.

 So, I did a clean installation of 10.1.

 That gave me the choice of:

 Linux (wouldn't shut down)
 Linux-nonfb (wouldn't shut down)
 Failsafe and floppy


This is bordering  on being ridiculous!

I have run the Mandrake10.1 (the one in which I had to edit 
the  /etc/lilo.conf  file append line to get it to shut down), which is 
installed on my main hard drive.

As an experiment, I re-edited its lilo.conf file, replacing apic=off with the 
default apic=ht. Then I ran lilo. It now shuts down correctly! But it 
definitely didn't when there was  apic=ht  in the append line when it was 
installed. 

I wonder if re-running lilo sorted out an installation problem? I'm probably 
wrong.

Cheers

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[newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Per discussione Keith Powell
I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the answer in 
the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again.

I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything closes down
correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch the computer off.
If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the lilo.conf 
file, but I can't remember what it is - not having needed it before.

Please, what is it?
Many thanks
Keith

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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Per discussione Keith Powell
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote:
I KNOW that this has been asked before, but I can't find the
answer in the archives or in twiki. Sorry for asking it again.
I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything
closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch
the computer off.
If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the
lilo.conf file, but I can't remember what it is - not having
needed it before.
Please, what is it?
Many thanks
Keith

In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the apic 
thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or noapic.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich.

Thanks, Kaj.
apic=off  has solved it.
The append line was already  apic=ht,  so I first changed it to  noapic 
 and then  apic=noapic. Neither had any effect.

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Per discussione Keith Powell
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote:

apic=off  has solved it.
The append line was already  apic=ht,  so I first changed it to
noapic and then  apic=noapic. Neither had any effect.

APIC, advance programable interrupt control. If your system 
works better with 'noapic', then what this really means is you 
have non-compliant and/or deficient hardware bordering on the 
'designed for windoze' variety.

Disabling ACPI and/or APIC is best avoided when not absolutely 
necessary, to deal with sloppy, sub-standard hardware.  Tho in 
fairness, other popular distros do disable them by default.  If 
your system can't use these advanced features, don't kid youself 
with believing that optimization for i586, i686, or K7, compiling 
with PREEMPT and such, will provide any benefit. 

This is *very* depressing reading, Tom. It is a new computer which I had 
built to my own specification, using components which have been 
recommended by people on this list as working well with Mandrake.

For example, Asus motherboard, Pentium4 processor, NVidia graphics card, 
 and so on.

Are you saying that the recommendations on this list are false?
There is no way that I can afford to change this substandard hardware now.
Keith

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Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem

2004-12-10 Per discussione Keith Powell
Margot wrote:
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Friday 10 December 2004 11:37, Keith Powell wrote:
I have a new machine, and now, when I close down, everything
closes down correctly, but then Mandrake does not actually switch
the computer off.
If I remember correctly, there is something to change in the
lilo.conf file, but I can't remember what it is - not having
needed it before.
Please, what is it?
Many thanks
Keith

In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the apic 
thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or noapic.

HTH
Kaj Haulrich.

Kaj, I think you're mixing up apic and acpi!
The options for apic include noapic and/or nolapic. The options for acpi 
include acpi=on, acpi=off and acpi=ht.

There doesn't seem to be any magic formula for which combinations of 
these options will work - it seems to be just a case of trial and error 
until you hit the particular combination that will give you a clean 
shutdown.

Keith, if you still have problems after checking all possible 
combinations of apic  acpi, you might need to try a different kernel.

Thanks Margot.
Sometime, I must find out the difference between apic and apci - I 
thought they were almost the same!

But, at the moment, Tom's reply has made me very depressed to find out 
that my new computer is no good!

I don't think that it can be the kernel, as everything closed down OK on 
my old machine.

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Groups

2004-12-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
Duncan Anderson wrote:
Keith Powell wrote:
A very basic question, please.
How do I find out which groups I am in and, if necessary, create and 
add myself to another group.
 

You can look at /etc/group to see which groups you belong to.
Sorry, I just can't find how to do it in Mandrake. MCC-System-Users 
and groups doesn't appear do it.
 

You can edit /etc/group (as root) and manually create a new group and 
add yourself to it. (Make sure you assign a unique group id number if 
you create a new group.)

Having said that, are you sure MCC doesn't allow you to add groups?
regards
Duncan
Thanks for the information, Duncan.
I was wrong, you can add groups with MCC. Derek explained how to do it 
in his reply.

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Sound problem

2004-12-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
Thank you for your reply, Carefree.

Very much edited, my original posting said:

 
 From: Keith Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have a program which needs to access the sound system for a
 digital output. When I try to run it, I get the error messages:

 Unable to open the audio device.  /dev/sound/dsp

 There is a /dev/sound/dsp and also a /dev/dsp (to which I have
 tried changing the setting in the error box).

 Starting it in a terminal, gives:

 inexact sampling rate: request for 8000 resulted in 48000
 Cannot open audio device /dev/sound/dsp: Invalid argument

 I have tried changing
 System-Configuration-KDE-Sound-sound System-Hardware
 to a custom sampling rate of 8000, but still the same error
 messages.
 
  I get this additional error message, titled  Informational -
  artsmessage:
 
 Sound server informational message.
 
 Error while initializing the sound driver.
 
 can't get requested samplingrate (requested rate 8000, got rate
  48000) The sound server will continue, using the null output
  device.
 
On Wednesday 08 Dec 2004 04:01, care free wrote:
 What brand of soundcard do you have?   

It's an on-board AC'97 chip, which I think may be the problem. From 
what I have been able to find out, I don't think that the sampling 
rate can be changed.

 What version of MDK do you have on your box?  

It's 10.0. but I am going to upgrade to 10.1.

 Do you choose auto detect or other options?

Yes, I chose auto detect. If I try any other settings, I lose sound 
completely.

I get the same problem with two other Linux distros, that's why I think 
it is the sound chip. There are still the error messages if I select 
alsa, but again I lose all sound. However, alsa works and the errant 
program works, with my Libranet (Debian based) distro. I have been 
trying various distros on my spare hard drive to find out what happens 
with each of them.

As I am going to upgrade my machine soon, I think that I will abandon 
this until I have changed. I'll see what happens then. 

Thanks for your help

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[newbie] Groups

2004-12-06 Per discussione Keith Powell
A very basic question, please.

How do I find out which groups I am in and, if necessary, create and 
add myself to another group.

Sorry, I just can't find how to do it in Mandrake. MCC-System-Users 
and groups doesn't appear do it.

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Groups

2004-12-06 Per discussione Keith Powell
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Monday 06 December 2004 17:14, Keith Powell wrote:
A very basic question, please.
How do I find out which groups I am in and, if necessary, create and
add myself to another group.
Sorry, I just can't find how to do it in Mandrake. MCC-System-Users
and groups doesn't appear to do it.
Many thanks
Keith

Yes it does.
You're right, it does!!
Select the 'Groups' Tab to see which groups exist and their members.
Select OptionsFilterSystemUsers  to see all the system groups.
Right click on a group to add members.
derek
Thanks, Derek, for another very useful piece of information, of which I 
have made a note. I hadn't looked deeply enough into Users and Groups.

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Re: [newbie] Sound problem

2004-12-05 Per discussione Keith Powell
care free wrote:
 First, do you have any analog sound at all?
 How many users do you have on your box?  Issue ls -al in /dev/sound 
 to see who owns the files in that directory.  I had quite similar
 problems with mdk 10.0.  After logging into the box, a user own those
 device files.  However, those files are not released.  So when the
 next person logs into the system, those files are still owned by the
 previous user, and the sound system does not work at all.  I have to
 log in as root and issue chmod 666 * in /dev/sound/ so that other can
 read and write to those device files.  I close the mixer and then
 restart it.  There is sound again.  /dev/dsp is a soft link
 to /dev/sound/dsp. 
 
 JT
 
 From: Keith Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Sound problem.
 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:43:26 +

 This has probably been answered before, but I can't find it in the
 archives, on twiki or on Derek's site.

 I have a program which needs to access the sound system for a 
 digital output. When I try to run it, I get the error messages:

 Unable to open the audio device.  /dev/sound/dsp

 There is a /dev/sound/dsp and also a /dev/dsp (to which I have tried
 changing the setting in the error box).

 Starting it in a terminal, gives:

 inexact sampling rate: request for 8000 resulted in 48000 Cannot
 open audio device /dev/sound/dsp: Invalid argument

 I have tried changing
 System-Configuration-KDE-Sound-sound System-Hardware
 to a custom sampling rate of 8000, but still the same error
 messages. 

 Until I upgrade the computer, it is on-board sound, not a sound
 card. 

 Any advice, please?

 Many thanks

 Keith


Thanks for your help, carefree.

I do have analogue sound - well I did until a few days ago when my CD 
drive packed up. A replacement is on the list.

There is only me uses the computer. My wife isn't interested in using 
it.

Sorry, but I have done as you suggested and there are still the same 
error messages. I have even tried running the program as root. No 
difference. However, on starting the computer now, I get this 
additional error message, titled  Informational - artsmessage:

Sound server informational message.

Error while initializing the sound driver.

can't get requested samplingrate (requested rate 8000, got rate 48000)
The sound server will continue, using the null output device.


Originally, ls -al showed that root owned everything in /dev/sound

Any further advice, please?

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Re: [newbie] Sound problem.

2004-12-05 Per discussione Keith Powell
** An update. **
Keith Powell wrote:
I have a program which needs to access the sound system for a digital 
output. When I try to run it, I get the error messages:

Unable to open the audio device.  /dev/sound/dsp
There is a /dev/sound/dsp and also a /dev/dsp (to which I have tried 
changing the setting in the error box).

Starting it in a terminal, gives:
inexact sampling rate: request for 8000 resulted in 48000 Cannot open 
audio device /dev/sound/dsp: Invalid argument

I have tried changing 
System-Configuration-KDE-Sound-sound System-Hardware
to a custom sampling rate of 8000, but still the same error messages.

Until I upgrade the computer, it is on-board sound, not a sound card.
I spent sometime trying various things, but always the error messages.
So I installed the Libranet distro on a spare hard drive. It's a Debian 
based distro and I haven't used it for some time.

Running to .deb version of the offending program, gave the same error 
messages.

In the Libranet Control Centre, I installed and configured alsa. 
Tried the program again and it worked without error messages.

Back to Mandrake and I installed everything to do with alsa that I could 
find. Changed the KDE-sound-system sound-hardware setting from auto 
to alsa and tried the program (it's a KDE program) again. Nothing! 
Just the same error messages.

So I have the program running using alsa in one distro, but not running 
using alsa in another distro. Very odd.

Incidentally, selecting custom setting of the sampling rate in the 
hardware section of KDE sound settings, kills the sound completely. 
There are no system sounds.

That's as far as I have got.
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Re: [newbie] Re: Asus motherboards

2004-12-04 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 04 December 2004 1:57 pm, Yvan wrote:
 Hello Keith,

 I have a P4P800 ASUS Motherboard. It has a Gigabit Ethernet controller on
 board. It really sucked with Mandrake 9.0, Ethernet didn't work correctly,
 no sound support. I recently upgraded to Mandrake 10.0 and now everything
 works with no problems.

Hello Yvan.

Thank you for your reply.

The motherboard will be used with 10.0, 10.1, and later versions. So I should 
have no problems.

cheers

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Re: [newbie] Asus motherboards

2004-12-04 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 03 December 2004 7:47 pm, Wojciech Podgrni wrote:

 I am running my Mandrake 10.1 on Asus A7V600-X motherboard.

 Wojciech Podgrni

Thank you for your reply, Wojciech.

The general answer is that I will have no problems with it, which is good to 
know.

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[newbie] Sound problem.

2004-12-04 Per discussione Keith Powell
This has probably been answered before, but I can't find it in the 
archives, on twiki or on Derek's site.

I have a program which needs to access the sound system for a digital 
output. When I try to run it, I get the error messages:

Unable to open the audio device.  /dev/sound/dsp

There is a /dev/sound/dsp and also a /dev/dsp (to which I have tried 
changing the setting in the error box).

Starting it in a terminal, gives:

inexact sampling rate: request for 8000 resulted in 48000 Cannot open 
audio device /dev/sound/dsp: Invalid argument

I have tried changing 
System-Configuration-KDE-Sound-sound System-Hardware
to a custom sampling rate of 8000, but still the same error messages.

Until I upgrade the computer, it is on-board sound, not a sound card.

Any advice, please?

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Asus motherboards

2004-12-03 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 03 December 2004 11:19 am, Keith Powell wrote:
My computer is badly showing its old age and it needs replacing.
I have been recommended to have an Asus P4P800-x motherboard, the
specification of which looks good.
At the moment, I am using an SMC ethernet card, and have a question,
please.
Does Mandrake find the on-board 10/100 ethernet chipset of this
motherboard, or would I be better off still using my SMC card? I
don't know what chip is used, as it doesn't tell on the Asus web
site.
Thanks, Anne and Dan for your very prompt replies. 15 minutes between 
my sending the question and your replies. Not bad service, that :)

I am very pleased that you say the Asus motherboard and the on-board 
Ethernet chipset both work well with Mandrake. I will use that, rather 
than my SMC card.

Why I asked is because, if I remember correctly, there have been 
comments on the list in the past, that there are problems with some 
on-board Ethernet chipsets. I may have mis-remembered though. 
Fortunately those comments don't apply in this instance.

Thanks again for the replies.
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Re: [newbie] Asus motherboards

2004-12-03 Per discussione Keith Powell
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Friday 03 December 2004 16:19, Keith Powell wrote:
My computer is badly showing its old age and it needs replacing.
I have been recommended to have an Asus P4P800-x motherboard, the
specification of which looks good.
At the moment, I am using an SMC ethernet card, and have a question,
please.
Does Mandrake find the on-board 10/100 ethernet chipset of this
motherboard, or would I be better off still using my SMC card? I don't know
what chip is used, as it doesn't tell on the Asus web site.

So long as you have the 'harddrake' service enabled you should be able to just 
swap motherboards and Mandrake will auto detect the new hardware and 
configure itself accordingly. 
The only exception would be if you changed video cards at the same time when 
you would have to run XFdrake after it booted.

Thanks very much for the information, Derek. It will be very useful, so 
I have made a note of it.

Yes, I am changing the old video card as well.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Asus motherboards

2004-12-03 Per discussione Keith Powell
Dan Gordon wrote:
On Friday 03 December 2004 11:19 am, Keith Powell wrote:
My computer is badly showing its old age and it needs replacing.
I have been recommended to have an Asus P4P800-x motherboard, the
specification of which looks good.
At the moment, I am using an SMC ethernet card, and have a question,
please.
Does Mandrake find the on-board 10/100 ethernet chipset of this
motherboard, or would I be better off still using my SMC card? I
don't know what chip is used, as it doesn't tell on the Asus web
site.

Here is how Mandrake 10.1 installed it on my M/B  Asus P4P800
Vendor: 3Com Corp.
Description: 3C940 10/100/1000 LAN
Media class: NETWORK_ETHERNET
Module name: sk98lin
Mac Address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Bus: PCI
Location on the bus: 2
Thanks Dan.
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users?

2004-11-22 Per discussione Keith Powell
Debian based distros?

I suggest Libranet, a very user friendly version.

It's available as a free download.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users?

2004-11-22 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 22 November 2004 7:50 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:14:09 +

 Keith Powell disseminated the following:
  Debian based distros?
 
  I suggest Libranet, a very user friendly version.

 Yep, forgot about that one. IIRC, it's a Canuck outfit, no?

Yes.

It is a mixture of Debian stable, unstable, and tweaked! If the two Libranet 
bosses decide that a package in the Debian unstable branch is perfectly 
stable, it will be added to the distro. So it is quite up-to-date for Debian!

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Broadband router

2004-11-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2004 21:43, Margot wrote:
 amalasingh wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Can anyone recommend a broadband router
  compatible with UK BT based ISPs.
  I have supanet broadband. I have trouble
  with connecting from Mandrake since
  the ISP only supports Windows.
 
  Cheers
  Amala Singh

 Netgear DG834 working well here with Force9 Broadband, and it was
 easy to set up in Mandrake 10.1 - haven't tried it in any earlier
 versions of Mandrake.

 --
 Regards
 Margot
 *-*-*-*

SMC7204BRA is working well here, also with Force9 Broadband.

Welcome to Force9, Margot!

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Re: [newbie] CD burner problems

2004-11-14 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 13 Nov 2004 7:31 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
 Two days ago, my Yamaha CD burner decided it wasn't going to burn! It
 will play data CDs normally, but when I insert a CD and try to burn
 with it, I get a message that there is an input/output error. The
 tray then opens and I get a message to insert a blank CD. Push the
 tray back in and the same thing happens again.

 It's the same whether I try to burn a new CD, a new CD-RW or a
 previously recorded CD-RW. It won't erase a CD-RW either.

 For some time, before this happened a couple of days ago, it would
 only record a CD-RW at a maximum speed of 2x and a CD at a maximum of
 6x. When it was new (two and a half years ago), I was getting 10-15x
 for a CD-RW and 20x for a CD. All the blanks are still from the same
 batches as the original ones.

 I have tried to burn with K3b and XCDroast in Mandrake, PCLOS and
 Libranet, also Nero in W98SE. All are the same, please insert a CD.
 I already have done :(

 I don't want to go to the expense of buying a new drive, unless I
 know that the drive is faulty and the fault does not lie elsewhere.

 From these symptoms, is it likely that the drive has gone duff, or
 can someone please suggest what else may suddenly be causing the
 drive to play but not record?


Thanks, Mikkel and Greg for your replies.

I have installed the latest firmware update, but it still does not work. 
There are the same error messages. So it looks as thought the writing 
laser has gone. 

I will have to get a new writer.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime

2004-11-13 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 23:45, Dennis Myers wrote:

 On the other hand, a friend of mine at work was complaining about their
 home comp not giving access to the internet but the worm/virus that
 infected it would connect whenever it wanted. So I hand her a disk with
 MandrakeMove on it and tell her to boot from cdrom get on the net and
 download the antivirus file they need to clean the harddrive and get back
 on track. Guess what ? It worked like a charm. The Move found all their
 hardware, detected their internet connection, gave them access and allowed
 them to d/l the needed files.

Thanks, Dennis.

What a good idea to use a LiveCD to download Windows stuff. I hadn't thought 
of that!

I have 98SE on a small hard drive (for occasional use), and it is not, nor 
ever will be, connected to the Internet. At the moment, if there is anything 
Windows I want to download, I do so in Linux, burn it to a CD-RW, replace 
the Linux hard drive with the Windows one (they are on separate caddies) and 
copy the stuff off the CD.

Your idea is much more simple and much better.

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[newbie] CD burner problems

2004-11-13 Per discussione Keith Powell
Two days ago, my Yamaha CD burner decided it wasn't going to burn! It will 
play data CDs normally, but when I insert a CD and try to burn with it, I get 
a message that there is an input/output error. The tray then opens and I get 
a message to insert a blank CD. Push the tray back in and the same thing 
happens again.

It's the same whether I try to burn a new CD, a new CD-RW or a previously 
recorded CD-RW. It won't erase a CD-RW either.

For some time, before this happened a couple of days ago, it would only record 
a CD-RW at a maximum speed of 2x and a CD at a maximum of 6x. When it was new 
(two and a half years ago), I was getting 10-15x for a CD-RW and 20x for a 
CD. All the blanks are still from the same batches as the original ones.

I have tried to burn with K3b and XCDroast in Mandrake, PCLOS and Libranet, 
also Nero in W98SE. All are the same, please insert a CD. I already have 
done :(   

I don't want to go to the expense of buying a new drive, unless I know that 
the drive is faulty and the fault does not lie elsewhere.

From these symptoms, is it likely that the drive has gone duff, or can 
someone please suggest what else may suddenly be causing the drive to play 
but not record? 

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Setting up broadband.

2004-10-21 Per discussione Keith Powell
Hello Anne, Bascule and Derek (in alphabetical order!!!)

Thank you very much for your replies and all the detailed information you have 
given me. I really do appreciate it, as broadband is completely uncharted 
territory for me. What an excellent and helpful list this is.

I have had some jobs to do in the house this morning, but this afternon I will 
try to have a session at getting broadband set up (hopefully!)

To comment on certain points you have all raised.

Anne, thank you also for the offer of helping me if I have SMC settings 
trouble. I hope that I won't, but will contact you if I do. My ISP has given 
me some settings to use. I didn't mention it in my original posting, but the 
PCI card manual says that the set-up CD must be run *before* the card is 
installed. So I wondered if Mandrake would find the card, but then I would 
have to unplug the card again, run SMC's Windows installation program and 
then plug the card back in, before I could use it with Windows. Very 
complicated. That is why I asked about setting it up in Windows first.

Bascule, you say that you will be gobsmacked if I have any problems. Knowing 
my luck, I will be gobsmacked if I don't!

Derek, I thought about the ebuyer router, but wondered if it worked well with 
Linux. It probably did, but I didn't want to risk it and decided on the SMC 
which is known to work. The changeover needs to be as painless as possible. I 
have got some microfilters, but thanks for mentioning them. I hope that I 
won't need to buy a crossover cable, as the nearest PC World is a 30 minute 
car ride away. We only have one computer shop round here, and I would rather 
not comment on it. I went in once!

Thank you all again for all the help.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Setting up broadband.

2004-10-21 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Thursday 21 Oct 2004 11:32, Alan Dunford wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 Oct 2004 22:12, Keith Powell wrote:
 
  The Ethernet card has a CD which includes a wizard for
  setting up both

  it and the BIOS automatically. But it's for Windows :(
 
  I have 98SE, which I very occasionally run. Would I be better

  setting the card up using the wizard and Windows, and then changing to

  the Mandrake hard drive after it has been set up? 


 Not sure if this is particularly helpful as I am on a cable
 network but in my own case, I used the Windows program provided
 to establish the connection and set up my account with my ISP
 (ntl).  Then I just plugged the modem into my Linux box (I
 think you wouldn't even have to do that  as you switch between
 Windows and Linux on the same box), and then set up Linux to
 work with the new account.  My ethernet connection worked first
 time - now I have a router connected to both Windows and Linux
 boxes with the modem connected as the link to the Internet.  I
 now work with either the Windows machine or the Linux one (or
 both) without any problem.

 HTH

 Alan

Hello Alan.

Thanks for your additional help.

I had sent my thank you posting before I got yours. That's why you were not 
included in it.

Cheers for now.

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Re: [newbie] Setting up broadband.

2004-10-21 Per discussione Keith Powell
Bascule.

I forgot to mention that although I have both Linux and Windows, I don't dual 
boot. I have four hard drives each in it own tray (caddie). Each drive has a 
different operating system on (2 Linux, 1 Windows and one for experimenting). 
I plug in to the computer what operating system I want to use for that 
session, so they are all completely separate. I think this is a better system 
than dual booting.

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[newbie] Setting up broadband.

2004-10-20 Per discussione Keith Powell
I am about to change to broadband and the hardware has now arrived. 
Clarification of a couple of points would be greatly appreciated, 
please.

The Ethernet card has a CD which includes a wizard for setting up both 
it and the BIOS automatically. But it's for Windows :(

I have 98SE, which I very occasionally run. Would I be better setting 
the card up using the wizard and Windows, and then changing to the 
Mandrake hard drive after it has been set up? I have read on this list, 
that if one just installs the card, Mandrake will find it. But then the 
BIOS won't be set up will it? There is a Linux driver on the CD, which 
I would install when in Mandrake.

It's the same with the router - an easy automatic set-up using Windows, 
but little information on setting it up manually.

For information, the card is an SMC1255TX-PF, and the router is an 
SMC7204BRA - which Derek recommended as working well with Linux. (I 
want to play safe and not have any problems getting going in 
broadband).

Any advice gratefully received as I am itching to get on to broadband 
but am confused at the moment!

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Broadband modems [solved]

2004-10-18 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 15 Oct 2004 9:13 am, Derek Jennings wrote:

 Keith
 The Access runner Conexant chip set is the one I warned you about. It
 is REALLY HARD to get working.  I helped a friend get one working and
 it took 2 weeks of email support from a guy in New Zealand before it
 worked, and that was with the 2.4 kernel, now he dare not upgrade the
 kernel for fear it stops working.
 The problem is the driver is a binary driver which is no longer
 maintained by Conexant.
 Trust me, anything is preferable to that dog.


Hello Derek.

Thank you for the reply and the warning.

After the previous postings from you and others on the list, I had no 
intention whatever of getting the PCI modem. The forwarding of the 
message with the two URL's was simply information in case anyone was 
interested.

Thanks again.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Broadband modems [solved]

2004-10-15 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have received the following message regarding a PCI broadband modem, and am 
forwarding it just for information in case anyone is interested.

Keith



Not sure if the following refers to the same PCI modem, Keith, but it
will hopefully be of some help:



Subject:      Re: Plusnet PCI ADSL Modem and Fedora 2
From:         Simon Arlott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups:   plusnet.tech.linux
Date:         Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:51:58 +0100

Rod wrote:
 Has anyone had any success in persuading Fedora 2 to recognise the
 PlusNet Connexant Access Runner PCI ADSL Modem. There seem to be many
 tutorials on the internet - but most of them warn against using the
 2.6 kernel.
 
http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/linux_conexant_pci_adsl.html
http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/adsl/CnxADSL-6.1.2.007-PIM-2.6-1.1.tar.bz2

 If anyone can find a link - or better still has succeeded themselves
 and would like to share their knowledge I would be eternally grateful.
 
I'm using the above driver on 2.6 and it works fine, cat 
/proc/net/atm/CnxAdsl\:0 will give you the status of the ADSL
connection.




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Re: [newbie] Dual booting with XP [Solved]

2004-10-14 Per discussione Keith Powell
Thank you all for your suggestions regarding not being able to install 
Mandrake on a hard drive which already had XP on it. When trying to install, 
the machine just rebooted into XP.

It was solved by starting the Mandrake installation with Disk2. When asked 
which CD drive to use for installation, remove Disk2 and replace it with 
Disk1 and click on OK. Then, from the report I have received, the 
installation went smoothly as though Disk1 had been used for booting.

So it would appear that there is a problem with his CD drive not reading some 
disks. I also have that problem occasionally.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Broadband modems

2004-10-13 Per discussione Keith Powell
Thank you for all the help and advice you have given me regarding broadband 
modems. I really do appreciate it.

If I send you each an individual Thank you message, it will clog up the list 
too much, so I hope you will accept this general message.

Derek asked about computers here. There is only one with one user. My wife is 
not interested in computing. The children have long since left home and got 
married. My ISP is Force9, which is the same as UseNet. I have never found 
out why they trade under two different names. Force9/UseNet are offering a 
package of 1Mps download speed with a 3GB cap, for £18:49 a month, which is 
the one I am thinking of going with.

The general opinion, is to forget the Voyager USB modem and the A220 PCI modem
which they supply, and go with an ethernet card and a router.

There has been so much excellent advice given, that I am printing all your 
replies so that I can study them.

Cheers

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[newbie] Broadband modems

2004-10-12 Per discussione Keith Powell
I'm lost!!

I want to go broadband, and the ISP gives me the choice of two modems in their 
broadband pack:

Voyager 105 USB Modem

or

A220 PCI Modem (internal?)

The Mandrake hardware database does not list either.

Any advice on either of these, please? Will either work with Mandrake?

Would I be better off going to a computer shop and buying a different modem? 
If so, what would you recommend?

I am running Mandrake 10.0

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Dual booting with XP

2004-10-09 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Thursday 07 Oct 2004 19:33, Keith Powell wrote:
 I am trying to wean a friend off Windows and on to Mandrake, so I have sent
 him a set of Mandrake CDs to install. He was supposed to install it on its
 own hard drive, but has changed his mind and wants it on the same drive as
 WindowsXP.

 I have received an e-mail from him saying that when he tries to install
 Mandrake, he gets a message saying to do a reboot and Mandrake will be
 loaded. This he does and then XP is started. He can get no further.

 Has anyone any suggestions I can pass on to him, please -apart from telling
 him not to dual boot?

 I have no first-hand experience of WindowsXP or dual-booting, so don't know
 what to suggest.

 If any further information is needed, I will ask him for it.


Thanks to Marc, Miark and Thereidos for your replies.

I have sent your replies on to him, but have not yet received the information 
you ask for.

As soon as I hear from him, I'll let you know.

Cheers

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[newbie] Dual booting with XP

2004-10-07 Per discussione Keith Powell
I am trying to wean a friend off Windows and on to Mandrake, so I have sent 
him a set of Mandrake CDs to install. He was supposed to install it on its 
own hard drive, but has changed his mind and wants it on the same drive as 
WindowsXP.

I have received an e-mail from him saying that when he tries to install 
Mandrake, he gets a message saying to do a reboot and Mandrake will be 
loaded. This he does and then XP is started. He can get no further.

Has anyone any suggestions I can pass on to him, please -apart from telling 
him not to dual boot?

I have no first-hand experience of WindowsXP or dual-booting, so don't know 
what to suggest.

If any further information is needed, I will ask him for it.

Many thanks

Keith


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Re: [newbie] Spell-checking in Thunderbird (Solved)

2004-08-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 16 Aug 2004 22:37, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Monday 16 Aug 2004 21:01, Keith Powell wrote:
  On Monday 16 Aug 2004 15:07, Derek Jennings wrote:
   On Monday 16 Aug 2004 14:46, Derek Jennings wrote:
On Monday 16 Aug 2004 14:06, Keith Powell wrote:
 I have been trying Thunderbird - a very nice program, and the spam
 filter works well.

 However, I can't get it to spell check in GB English, only American
 English.

 I have downloaded the correct dictionary from

 dictionaries.mozdev.org/installation.html

 but can't get Thunderbird to find it.

 The download site says to use Tools-Options-Attachments to
 install it. but there is no Attachments item in that menu.

 How do I install the new dictionary, please?

 I can't find the answer with Google :-(

 Many thanks for any help.

 Keith
   
It works for me with Thunderbird 0.9.1 which is available as an RPM
from MandrakeClub or from Chip Cuccio's site
http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms
   
(You may need to install xorg-x11-Xvfb before it will work)
   
Thunderbird 0.91 supports extensions  Tools-Options-Extensions 
not Attachments.
   
To install the British spell checker go here
http://dictionaries.mozdev.org/installation.html
   
If you are using Mozilla or mozilla-firefox clicking on the spell
checker will install it in mozilla itself. To install it in
Thunderbird right click on the link and save the file somewhere in
your home.
   
Then in Thunderbird - Tools-Options-Extensions
Press the 'Install' button and select the previously saved spell
checker.
   
 :-)
   
derek
  
   Sorry I must engage brain before typing :-(
   The latest version of Thunderbird is of course 0.7.3
  
   Also I had to run thunderbird as root when installing the extension or
   else it did not have permission to the correct folder for the spell
   checker.
  
   Finally when running a spell check you should be anle to select the
   appropriate language in the drop down menu.
  
   derek
 
  Thank you for your help, Derek.
 
  I am running 0.7.1, which is the latest I can find on Chip's site - not
  joined the Club yet.
 
  Sorry about the typing error, I meant Extensions and not Attachments. It
  must be the weather which is affecting the brain!
 
  I have run Thunderbird both as root and as a user, and there is
  definitely NOT an Attachments item in the Tools-Options menu. So I am at
  a loss how to install the British spell checker.
 
  The next thing I will do is to download and install  xorg-x11-Xvfb and
  see if that brings me an Extension menu item, but I can't really see how
  it will. However, I am probably wrong.
 
  In the language menu item in the spell checker, there is still only the
  American language.
 
  Any further ideas will be *very* gratefully received.
 
  Keith

 Thunderbird 0.7.3 is here
 http://norlug.org/~chipster/rpm_handler/cat2/mozilla-thunderbird-0.7.3-2.no
rlug.i586.rpm

 You should not be looking in Tools-Options
 Look in ToolsExtensions

 xorg-x11-Xvfb is a dependency for the MandrakeClub RPM. I am not sure if
 Chip's version requires it.

 derek

Thanks Derek for your help - it is appreciated.

It would have helped if I had looked for Extensions in the correct place.

Dictionary installed as root, and it is now working.

A thought. I wonder if it would help reading Stephen's messages if I installed 
the Australian Dictionary?  ;-) 

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[newbie] Spell-checking in Thunderbird

2004-08-16 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have been trying Thunderbird - a very nice program, and the spam filter 
works well.

However, I can't get it to spell check in GB English, only American English.

I have downloaded the correct dictionary from 

dictionaries.mozdev.org/installation.html

but can't get Thunderbird to find it.

The download site says to use Tools-Options-Attachments to install it. but 
there is no Attachments item in that menu.

How do I install the new dictionary, please?

I can't find the answer with Google :-( 

Many thanks for any help.

Keith


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[newbie] Stopped printing.

2004-08-02 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have an Epson Stylus 670 printer and it has suddenly stopped printing from 
Mandrake (although it will still print correctly from other distros). I 
haven't altered anything since it printed correctly in Mandrake yesterday!

I have tried Open Office, Abiword, KWord, KWrite and printing from a terminal. 
None will print :-(

This is the error message I get:


A print error occurred. Error message received from system:

cupsdoprint -P 'EPSONStylusCOLOR670' -J 'Untitled' -H 'localhost:631' -U 
'keith' -o ' copies=1 cpi=12 lpi=7 
multiple-document-handling=separate-documents-collated-copies 
orientation-requested=3 page-bottom=36 page-left=36 page-right=36 page-top=36 
scaling=100 wrap=true' '/tmp/kde-keith/kdeprint_7KoTFRaB' : execution failed 
with message:
server-error-not-accepting-jobs 


Can anyone help, please?

Many thanks

Keith


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Re: [newbie] Stopped printing.

2004-08-02 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 02 Aug 2004 14:04, PM wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 15:44, Keith Powell wrote:
  I have an Epson Stylus 670 printer and it has suddenly stopped printing
  from Mandrake (although it will still print correctly from other
  distros). I haven't altered anything since it printed correctly in
  Mandrake yesterday!
 
  I have tried Open Office, Abiword, KWord, KWrite and printing from a
  terminal. None will print :-(
 
  This is the error message I get:
 
 
  A print error occurred. Error message received from system:
 
  cupsdoprint -P 'EPSONStylusCOLOR670' -J 'Untitled' -H 'localhost:631' -U
  'keith' -o ' copies=1 cpi=12 lpi=7
  multiple-document-handling=separate-documents-collated-copies
  orientation-requested=3 page-bottom=36 page-left=36 page-right=36
  page-top=36 scaling=100 wrap=true' '/tmp/kde-keith/kdeprint_7KoTFRaB' :
  execution failed with message:
  server-error-not-accepting-jobs
 
 
  Can anyone help, please?
 
  Many thanks
 
  Keith

 use cups to re-start the print server.

 If you are using KDE, open the menu, configure, printing, cups WWW
 admin, admin, manage printers, start printer.

 You might need to check 'jobs' first and remove any that are stuck in
 there, if so, you may not need to go into admin.

Many thanks for your help, PM. The printer is now working.

I followed your instructions and started the printer - nothing. So I clicked 
on Accept Jobs and it sprang into life. However, I probably needed to start 
the printer as you suggested, before telling it to accept jobs.

Thanks again.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community

2004-07-26 Per discussione Keith Powell
Thanks Charlie, John and Carroll for your replies.

I was off the list for some time and lost track of what was happening to 
Community.

Am now much clearer about the situation.

Cheers

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[newbie] Mandrake10 Community

2004-07-25 Per discussione Keith Powell
What is the situation regarding Mandrake10 Community, please?

Is it still very similar as Official, or has it forked a lot with regard to 
the package versions in it?

I can't find anything about Community on the Mandrake site, can't find the 
information on Google, and can't download it just to find out. I only have a 
dial-up connection.

Many thanks for any information.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community

2004-07-25 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 25 Jul 2004 18:39, PM wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 20:04, Keith Powell wrote:
  What is the situation regarding Mandrake10 Community, please?
 
  Is it still very similar as Official, or has it forked a lot with regard
  to the package versions in it?
 
  I can't find anything about Community on the Mandrake site, can't find
  the information on Google, and can't download it just to find out. I only
  have a dial-up connection.
 
  Many thanks for any information.
 
  Cheers
 
  Keith

 Mandrake Community was a beta, replaced by Official.

 There's now 10.1 beta.

Thanks for the information.

I thought that Mandrake were keeping the 10 Community label. Didn't realise 
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[newbie] APT for Mandrake

2004-04-25 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have downloaded APT from Mandrake10 Contrib, and have tried to get it 
working.

It attempts to access the APT repository at Sunet, but says it can't.

Does anyone know if APT is now back with Mandrake? It used to be and then 
disappeared. If so, where is the repository, please?

Even if it does work, there may be no packages from it, which are not 
available from the urpmi sources. I though it was worth looking at, though.

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up? (Solved)

2004-04-19 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 2:16 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
 My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own
 caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose.

 A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple
 of days ago  whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot,
 then stopped with the error message:

 Partition Check:
 hda: 4hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21
 hda: timeout waiting for DMA
 hda: timeout waiting for DMA
 hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting

 the hard drive activity light was permanently on.


Stephen said that caddies sometimes go flakey, so:

I put the faulty hard drive into a different caddy and a good hard drive 
into the caddy the faulty drive had been using.

Everything now works, so it appeared to have been a caddy/drive connection 
problem. I will investigate this further.

Also, I will put the drives back into their original caddies and see what 
happens.

Thanks to all who have made suggestions. They are all noted for possible 
future use.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-19 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 19 Apr 2004 6:45 pm, RichardA wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:17:08 +0100, Keith Powell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I remember correctly, it was mentioned on the list some time ago that
  the download edition will have adverts which will pop up at any time. This
  inconvenience is to help 'persuade' us to buy the boxed sets, which
  will be free of them.

 The 'ad' is in the install, whilst the packages are being copied over.

 Not intrusive. Not a problem.

Thanks, Richard.

As I always click on Details and watch the packages being installed, rather 
than looking at the pictures, I will probably miss the ad anyway!

Cheers

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[newbie] Hard drive packed up?

2004-04-18 Per discussione Keith Powell
I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies.

My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own 
caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose.

A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a couple of 
days ago  whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to boot, then 
stopped with the error message:

Partition Check:
hda: 4hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting

the hard drive activity light was permanently on.

This error message means nothing to me.

I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would 
install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it 
wouldn't.

I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that 
everything was OK.

I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The 
drive still can't be used.

Googling brings up nothing of apparent use.

Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away?

Any ideas will be gratefully received.

Many thanks

Keith 



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Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?

2004-04-18 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 3:41 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:16, Keith Powell wrote:
  My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own
  caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose.
 
  A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a
  couple of days ago  whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to
  boot, then stopped with the error message:
 
  Partition Check:
  hda: 4hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21
  hda: timeout waiting for DMA
  hda: timeout waiting for DMA
  hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting
 
  the hard drive activity light was permanently on.
 
  This error message means nothing to me.
 
  I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would
  install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it
  wouldn't.
 
  I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that
  everything was OK.
 
  I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The
  drive still can't be used.
 
  Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away?
 


 Have you tried the HD in another machine? Have you tried with a
 different IDE cable? Have you tried with the drive installed upside
 down? (not a joke)

 stephen kuhn - owner

Hello Stephen.

I am afraid that I haven't access to another machine in which to try it.

The other drives work in their caddies, so I can't suspect the IDE cable could 
be faulty just for this one drive - could it? However, you have given me an 
idea! In case it is a caddy fault, I will try the faulty drive in one of 
the other caddies which I know to be OK.

I will also try the drive upside down. If I can get it working again, it will 
save me about £50 for a new drive.

Many thanks for your help

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Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?

2004-04-18 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 2:59 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:16, Keith Powell wrote:
 
  My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own
  caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose.
 
  A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a
  couple of days ago  whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to
  boot, then stopped with the error message:
 
  Partition Check:
  hda: 4hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21
  hda: timeout waiting for DMA
  hda: timeout waiting for DMA
  hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting
 
  the hard drive activity light was permanently on.
 
  This error message means nothing to me.
 
  I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would
  install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it
  wouldn't.
 
  I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that
  everything was OK.
 
  I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The
  drive still can't be used.
 
  Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away?
 


 You'll have more potential to diagnose the problem by attempting to
 mount it from a running system than by trying to install onto it.  Can
 you connect it as a second drive and try diskdrake on it?

 HTH
 Brian

Hello Brian.

I could mount it as a second drive, but as it would mean quite a lot of work 
(I don't have a second drive installed) I will try the other suggestions 
first.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Keith



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Re: [newbie] Hard drive packed up?

2004-04-18 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 18 Apr 2004 3:37 pm, Marc wrote:
 On Sunday 18 April 2004 08:16 am, Keith Powell wrote:
  I know this isn't strictly Mandrake, so apologies.
 
  My set-up here, is one computer with several hard drives each in its own
  caddy. Each drive is used for a different purpose.
 
  A couple of days ago, one of them (a Maxtor 40GB) stopped working a
  couple of days ago  whilst I was using it,. So I rebooted. It started to
  boot, then stopped with the error message:
 
  Partition Check:
  hda: 4hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status ==0x21
  hda: timeout waiting for DMA
  hda: timeout waiting for DMA
  hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting
 
  the hard drive activity light was permanently on.
 
  This error message means nothing to me.
 
  I have tried installing two different Linux distros, but neither would
  install. I then found my old Windows98 CD and tried installing that - it
  wouldn't.
 
  I ran the complete Maxtor diagnostic program, but the results were that
  everything was OK.
 
  I have formatted the hard drive, and tried various things with FDISK. The
  drive still can't be used.
 
  Googling brings up nothing of apparent use.
 
  Can the hard drive be sorted, or is it only fit to be thrown away?
 
Been there done that. There are 2 different Maxtor diagnostic utilitys,
 maxblast and and powermax. Powermax is far more usefull. have you used it?
 Have you tried a low leval format. I had a problem with a maxtor drive
 where that was the only thing that would help. There is a low level format
 utility in powermax.

Hope that helps

 Marc

Thanks for the reply, Marc.

It was Powermax which I used. I went through all the tests, including the full 
low level format. Powermax found nothing wrong. That's why I can't think what 
the problem could be.

I will try another low level format and see what happens.

Cheers

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[newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
Reading through the recent posts, it appears that many on the list who have 
broadband (lucky lot!!) and have downloaded version 10(CE) or version 10 
(Official) are having  problems. There seem to be many bugs still in them.

My question, and it is a serious one, is: 

When the boxed sets come out in a few weeks time, will they still be buggy, or 
will the bugs have been sorted? Or would it be better to wait several weeks 
before buying, if this means that all the updates to sort these bugs out are 
available on CD?

Alternatively, I could buy the download edition on cheap CDs, and use that as 
a test to see how things are beforebuying the boxed set.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 17 April 2004 9:19 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 17 April 2004 08:27, Keith Powell wrote:
  Reading through the recent posts, it appears that many on the list
  who have broadband (lucky lot!!) and have downloaded version 10(CE)
  or version 10 (Official) are having  problems. There seem to be many
  bugs still in them.
 
  My question, and it is a serious one, is:
 
  When the boxed sets come out in a few weeks time, will they still be
  buggy, or will the bugs have been sorted?

 As I undertand it, 'Official' is what will be in the boxed sets.

  Or would it be better to
  wait several weeks before buying, if this means that all the updates
  to sort these bugs out are available on CD?

 The greatest number of bugs have been ironed out between CE and
 Official.  There are, of course, always bug fixes to follow.

  Alternatively, I could buy the download edition on cheap CDs, and use
  that as a test to see how things are beforebuying the boxed set.

 - From Mandrake's point of view, buying the cheapies and subscribing to
 the club is much better than buying direct from MandrakeSoft.  They get
 all of club money, but only a bit from sales.

 Anne

A very good suggestion, Anne.

There is one thing, which I am hoping that you, or anyone else with a greater 
knowledge of Mandrakesoft than I, can answer.

I assume that the cheap CDs I would buy from, for instance, The Libranet 
Emporium, would be the download edition.  If I remember correctly, it was 
mentioned on the list some time ago that the download edition will have 
adverts which will pop up at any time. This inconvenience is to help 
'persuade' us to buy the boxed sets, which will be free of them. 

Is this correct, or am I dreaming it? Knowing me, it is probably the latter!  

Any information will be greatfully received.

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 17 April 2004 8:47 am, Philip Cronje wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:27:00 +0100, Keith Powell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Reading through the recent posts, it appears that many on the list who
  have broadband (lucky lot!!) and have downloaded version 10(CE) or
  version 10 (Official) are having  problems. There seem to be many bugs
  still in them.

 It all depends. I for one haven't been seeing any of these bugs. And my
 system specs, for lack of a better word, is manure. Horse. :P So you won't
 really know until you try, but if you don't want to risk it, leaving off
 until the official comes out is also alright. :)

 //philip

Thanks for the reply and suggestion, Philip.

My system too, is over two years old. So it's ready to donate to the local 
museum to put in their Prehistoric Techical Equipment section.

Cheers

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[newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
Thanks to all who replied.

Here is a composite reply instead of wasting bandwidth with individual ones. 
Hope no one minds!

Anne suggested waiting a couple of weeks for the Official download edition 
to be available.  I'll do that, Anne.

Thanks for the information that there are not the pop-up adverts I wondered 
about in the download edition. False alarm!!

I always first burn my home directory to a CD and then do a clean install 
rather than an upgrade. For me, it is much safer than risking an upgrade - 
although others get away with it.

In the past and, I assume for version 10, an individually burnt CD with all 
the updates/bug patches to the date of ordering it, has been available from:

www.linuxemporium.co.uk

I have bought them several times and they have saved me much time, trouble and 
cost, trying to download the updates with my modem.

Thanks again, all, for your replies.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 17 April 2004 1:17 pm, Keith Powell wrote:

 I assume that the cheap CDs I would buy from, for instance, The Libranet
 Emporium, would be the download edition.  

Whoops! I meant to type The Linux Emporium.

Sorry!!

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10

2004-04-17 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 17 Apr 2004 6:42 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
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 On Saturday 17 April 2004 17:09, Keith Powell wrote:
  In the past and, I assume for version 10, an individually burnt CD
  with all the updates/bug patches to the date of ordering it, has been
  available from:
 
  www.linuxemporium.co.uk

 That does sound an excellent service.

 Anne

It is, Anne.

I have found them an excellent firm, with very god prices and same day 
despatch.

Can't fault them.

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Re: [newbie] Automatically disconnecting

2004-04-05 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 04 Apr 2004 5:02 am, robin wrote:
  On Saturday 03 April 2004 13:28, Keith Powell wrote:
  I have been looking to see if it is possible to get KPPP to
  automatically disconnect a dial-up Internet connection after a
  certain amount of time (say, 3 minutes) of inactivity. Having
  searched all through the various Internet configuration files, I
  can't find a way of doing it. Disconnection appears to only to be
  able to be done manually.
 
 I think the app you're all looking for is wvdial. You can set it to log
 you in automatically (even with ISPs that use terminal-based
 authentication), reconnect automatically, disconnect if idle for a
 specified period of time and a whole load of other stuff. It's not on
 the 10.0 CDs, but is on the mirrors. Just download it and edit
 /etc/wvdial.conf to your needs. No GUI required.

 The only glitch is that it normally only runs as root. There are three
 ways round this (other than doing su of course):

 1. Make it suid (never tried this);
 2. Change permissions of wvdial, wvdial.conf and /dev/modem (or
 whichever device your system works);
 3. Have it started automatically on boot (this used to work fine on 9.2,
 but is rather flaky on 10.0 - sometimes it works, mostly it doesn't).

 Obviously you don't want to try option 3 if you're on a pay-per-minute
 connection! It's probably not advisable for situations where security is
 a major issue, such as a server, but then how many people run servers
 via a modem?

 Sir Robin

Thanks for your help, Robin.

I have installed wvdial, and it's working as I want. At the moment, it is only 
usable when running it as root, but I will experiment with permissions to 
make it run as a user (me!). It isn't on my Download Edition CDs (I've found 
before that there are some packages missing from them, which should be on 
them), So I had to get it from the Internet.

There has been another suggestion of adding an idle time in /etc/ppp/options. 
That works as well, so I now have the choice.

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Re: [newbie] Automatically disconnecting

2004-04-05 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 04 Apr 2004 1:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Sunday 04 April 2004 12:52, Keith Powell wrote:
  Robin.
 
  I would like some more help, please!
 
  You say that the WVDIAL binary is on the mirrors for downloading.
 
  I run Mandrake9.2 and it's not on my contrib, eslrahc, mpol,
  NORLUG-9.2, or plf sources. Where is it, please?
 
  I have Googled for it and can only find tarballs, not any
  binaries for Mandrake. I would rather use a binary than a
  tarball.
 
  Many thanks.
 
  Keith

 Keith, try rpmfind.net :
 http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/wvdial-1.53-3
mdk.i586.html HTH
 Kaj Haulrich.

Thanks, Hal, for telling me where to download WVDdial.

It's not on my Download Edition CDs, so your information has saved a search 
with Google.

WVDial is now installed and working.

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Re: [newbie] Automatically disconnecting

2004-04-05 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 04 Apr 2004 2:09 pm, et wrote:
 On Saturday 03 April 2004 02:28 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
  I have been looking to see if it is possible to get KPPP to automatically
  disconnect a dial-up Internet connection after a certain amount of time
  (say, 3 minutes) of inactivity. Having searched all through the various
  Internet configuration files, I can't find a way of doing it.
  Disconnection appears to only to be able to be done manually.
 
  Any ideas, please, anyone?
 
  Many thanks
 
  Keith

 is this for everone using the dialup connection? if so,,, add (to the
 file /ect/ppp/options) the line (without the quotes, as root) IDLE=300
 will give you a 5 min idle time before disconnection.
 also the command man pppd can be your friend too...

Many thanks for your reply and the information.

There's only one user here - me!

I have activated the idle line in the /etc/ppp/options file as you 
suggested. It works.

At the moment I am using your suggestion, but I have installed WVDial (which 
has an idle time setting) and am also trying that program.

I had not noticed that /etc/ppp/options was the file to edit. I must have 
missed it when first checking through the Internet configuration files.

Next job is to read the ppd manual. 

Many thanks again.

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Re: [newbie] Automatically disconnecting

2004-04-04 Per discussione Keith Powell
Robin.

I would like some more help, please!

You say that the WVDIAL binary is on the mirrors for downloading. 

I run Mandrake9.2 and it's not on my contrib, eslrahc, mpol, NORLUG-9.2, or 
plf sources. Where is it, please?

I have Googled for it and can only find tarballs, not any binaries for 
Mandrake. I would rather use a binary than a tarball.

Many thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Double Posting

2004-04-04 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 04 Apr 2004 12:50 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 07:36, Graham Watkins wrote:
  Strange that.  I posted yesterday and got a bounce message. I couldn't
  be bothered to try posting again but later on the message appeared.
  Nobody replied so I can't be sure if anyone saw it but me. A glitch in
  the list software perhaps?
 
  Be interesting to see if I get a bounce on this one.

 I've been receiving these messages recently even when my posts appear
 just fine.

 Adolfo

Latest Scores so far today!

Messages posted to the list:   3
Messages appearing on the list: 3
Bounce messages received:   3

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Re: [newbie] KWord spell checking

2004-03-15 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 13 Mar 2004 2:35 pm, Charlie wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:11 am, many eyes viewed Keith Powell's words:-

  I have just tried running aspell in a terminal and manually checking a
  text file. It works correctly, so it would appear that there is nothing
  wrong with the Aspell installation. I'll carry on trying to find what's
  causing the problem. Others don't have it with KWord, and I only get it
  with the KOffice programs, so presumably it's something to do with my
  set-up
 
  Very odd!!
 
  Thanks for the help.
 
  Keith

 Further to my last experimentations I discovered the following

 In KWord Settings/configure/spelling/

 DictionaryASpell default
 Encoding  US-ASCII
 ClientInternational Ispell

 Consider run together words as spelling errors enable
 Show Misspelled words in Document

 And the automagic spell checker works.

 But what I did was changed the Client to ASpell I think, and it returned to
 Ispell So maybe you have to work in there and it will set itself up?

 So everything on the left click menu is now working. Very strange.


 In Kpresenter I had some problems, leaving it as default I discovered that
 on auto spell check it marked the words, but unfortunately brought up the
 spell checker and froze the screen. I couldn't get out without logging out
 and coming back in.

 Then I placed ASpell as the Client, and it went through all the processes
 as with KWord. But the spell checking window flashed onto the screen and
 then off again. So I again selected International Ispell as the Client and
 it went back to the Dictionary setting as ISpell Default instead of ASpell
 default and worked perfectly.

 I went back to KWord and it was as above I had left it with ASpell default
 as Dictionary and worked without fault.

 So it would appear that you have to work round with the KOffice
 applications in Whatever KOffice App/settings/configure/spelling/ and take
 what works, changing things round a bit so that they can look for what is
 needed.

 Hope this is not to confusing and helps.

 Charlie.

Hello Charlie.

Thanks for your suggestions, and sorry for the delay in replying. Things have 
been rather (no, VERY!) hectic here lately, and I haven't had time to do any 
further tests.

I have now been able to have another look at it, and the best I can do is to 
have the Configuration/KDE/components/Spell checking  set to:

Dictionary: Aspell default
Encoding:  ISO8859-15
Client:  Aspell

and the KWord spell checking set to:

Dictionary: Aspell default
Encoding:  ISO8859-15
Client: International Ispell. (If I change it to Aspell, it immediately goes 
back to Ispell). 

With these settings, I can spell check and incorrectly spelt words are 
corrected.

However! Although American spellings are marked, the dictionary ignores them. 
(So, both color and colour are accepted).

It's not perfect, but isn't too bad.

I think I will leave it at this for the time being, as I don't know what else 
to try.

If you come up with anything else, I'd like to hear about it.

Many thanks again to you and Anne.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] KWord spell checking

2004-03-12 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 12 Mar 2004 8:26 am, Charlie wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:27 pm, many eyes viewed Keith Powell's words:-

  I have been having another attempt at getting spell checking in KWord
  (1.2.92) to work, but again I have had no success.
 
  If anyone has got it working (preferably with English-United Kingdom
  spellings), I would very much like to hear from you and find out exactly
  how you did it!
 
  Many thanks
 
  Keith

 Did it through the install for me. You have to have Aspell installed.
 Does auto spellcheck as well as manual.
 That is in Linux Mandrake 9.2

 Charlie

Thanks for the reply, Charlie.

I have got Aspell installed.

Unfortunately, I still can't find what could be causing the problem. KWord 
marks the words as being incorrectly spelt, but won't call the dictionary.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] KWord spell checking

2004-03-12 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 12 Mar 2004 7:37 pm, Charlie wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:27 pm, many eyes viewed Keith Powell's words:-

  I have been having another attempt at getting spell checking in KWord
  (1.2.92) to work, but again I have had no success.
 
  If anyone has got it working (preferably with English-United Kingdom
  spellings), I would very much like to hear from you and find out exactly
  how you did it!
 
  Many thanks
 
  Keith

 If you type aspell into a terminal, there are many options that might
 help you configure it. Does Aspell work in OO.o or any other program or
 application that uses it. If so then it doesn't require any configuration I
 would imagine, unless there is a way to direct it into a programs path?

 Sorry,
 Can't think of anything else.

 CXharlie.

I have just tried running aspell in a terminal and manually checking a text 
file. It works correctly, so it would appear that there is nothing wrong with 
the Aspell installation. I'll carry on trying to find what's causing the 
problem. Others don't have it with KWord, and I only get it with the KOffice 
programs, so presumably it's something to do with my set-up

Very odd!!

Thanks for the help.

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[newbie] KWord spell checking

2004-03-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have been having another attempt at getting spell checking in KWord (1.2.92) 
to work, but again I have had no success.

If anyone has got it working (preferably with English-United Kingdom 
spellings), I would very much like to hear from you and find out exactly how 
you did it!

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] KWord spell checking

2004-03-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Thursday 11 Mar 2004 12:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
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 On Thursday 11 March 2004 12:27, Keith Powell wrote:
  I have been having another attempt at getting spell checking in
  KWord (1.2.92) to work, but again I have had no success.
 
  If anyone has got it working (preferably with English-United
  Kingdom spellings), I would very much like to hear from you and
  find out exactly how you did it!
 
  Many thanks
 
  Keith

 Keith, I'm still in 9.1, but it works fine here.  I don't remember any
 specific problems.  Have you got aspell installed?  My settings are:
 DictionaryASpell Default
 Encoding  ISO 8859-15
 ClientAspell

 Anne

Anne.

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I do have Aspell installed. 

Kword started with the spelling settings of

Dictionary: English
ISO: 8859-1
Client: International Ispell

I changed the settings to the ones you gave me and typed a few words, some 
with spelling mistakes. When I tried to spell check, KWord crashed!

On restarting, it had defaulted back to the settings I gave at the beginning 
of this reply. Nothing happens when I try to spell check using these 
settings. Ispell is installed. I have tried many combinations of Dictionary, 
ISO, and Client, but it always starts with the default settings, rather 
than the ones I have changed it to. Most combinations just don't work, but 
some make it crash.

Very peculiar! 

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Re: [newbie] KWord spell checking

2004-03-11 Per discussione Keith Powell
Anne Wilson wrote:
 
 On Thursday 11 March 2004 13:54, Keith Powell wrote:
 
On Thursday 11 Mar 2004 12:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Keith, I'm still in 9.1, but it works fine here.  I don't
remember any specific problems.  Have you got aspell installed? 
My settings are: Dictionary  ASpell Default
Encoding ISO 8859-15
Client   Aspell

Anne

Anne.

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I do have Aspell installed.

Kword started with the spelling settings of

Dictionary: English
ISO: 8859-1
Client: International Ispell

I changed the settings to the ones you gave me and typed a few
words, some with spelling mistakes. When I tried to spell check,
KWord crashed!

On restarting, it had defaulted back to the settings I gave at the
beginning of this reply. Nothing happens when I try to spell check
using these settings. Ispell is installed. I have tried many
combinations of Dictionary, ISO, and Client, but it always starts
with the default settings, rather than the ones I have changed it
to. Most combinations just don't work, but some make it crash.

Very peculiar!

 
 Very odd indeed!  Have you tried changing the settings, then exiting, 
 in the hope that they are saved?  After a crash things do tend to 
 revert to the settings when they last closed down properly, so that 
 fits the pattern.
 
Anne

I have just tried it again, changing the settings to the ones you use. I 
then exited the program and restarted it.

Dictionary was still Aspell default, and ISO was still 8859-15. But the 
Client had changed back to International Ispell.

Trying to spell check with these settings caused KWord to crash.

I then restarted it and the settings it came up with were ASpell 
default, 8895-15, International Ispell. So I changed the client again to 
Aspell and clicked OK. Immediately opening the Spell Checking menu 
again, and the client had reverted to International Ispell. Just to try 
to cover everything, I did the same but clicked on Accept and then OK. 
It tells me that the font Symbol isn't installed, but I can't think 
that has any bearing on the problem.

As I said earlier, I have ASpell installed and have no problems with 
KMail (which I understand uses it), or Abiword. However, KSpread and 
KPresenter both crash when I try to spell check in them.

As Alice said, Curiouser and curiouser!

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird

2004-03-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 07 Mar 2004 7:42 pm, Floyd Hagen wrote:
 You really don't need an RPM for it. It's got its own installation script.
 Grab the tarball, and there's a README file in there with clear directions.
 If you want an icon or entry for it in your menu, you'll have to add it
 yourself, but that's easy enough.

 On Sun, Mar 07, 2004, Keith Powell wrote:
  I would like to try Mozilla-Thunderbird and have found a Mandrake RPM for
  it on Rediris, which I have downloaded. I hope it's not a Spanish version
  :-( It's the only one I can find. There's nothing in the usual
  repositories.

Hello Floyd.

Thanks for the prompt reply and the information.

Derek has told me where to get the Mandrake .rpm from. As I prefer to install 
from an .rpm rather than from a tarball, I have used his solution. I have so 
many problems with tarballs, that I keep clear of them as much as possible! 
However, your tarball suggestion is useful to have in reserve.   

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird

2004-03-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 07 Mar 2004 7:40 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Sunday 07 Mar 2004 19:28, Keith Powell wrote:
  I would like to try Mozilla-Thunderbird and have found a Mandrake RPM for
  it on Rediris, which I have downloaded. I hope it's not a Spanish version
  :-( It's the only one I can find. There's nothing in the usual 
  repositories. 
 
  However, it won't install as it needs libXinerama.
 
  I can't find Xinerama or libXinerama on the Download CDs, Google,
  Sourceforge, Gnome.org, or Mozilla.org. - only documents on how to run
  Xinerama.
 
  There's a .tar.bz of it on the Mozilla site, but I would rather stick
  with the Mandrake RPM.
 
  Has anyone managed to install Thunderbird, please? If so, how?
 
  Many thanks
 
  Keith

 Using Chip Cuccio's urpmi download page
 http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms

 derek

Thanks for the information, Derek.

I have installed Thunderbird from Chip Cuccio's site and it is working OK 
(from a preliminary trial). 

Unfortunately, I didn't know of that repository. I can't remember it having 
been mentioned before - but it almost certainly must have been. He has some 
interesting packages on it. 

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Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus

2004-03-02 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 01 Mar 2004 11:04 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:

 Did scribus need and dependencies ?
 just out of interest.

 John

Hello John.

I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, 
having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it 
a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work 
OK. I only installed the program and libscribus.

On the site from where I downloaded it, there was a list of another 16 
libraries which it said Scribus requires and which are not installed on my 
machine. I haven't downloaded these, but will do so (as it says they are 
needed), so that the installation is complete.

For information, the missing libraries are:

libICE.so.6,  libSM.so.6,  libX11.so.6,  libXext.so.6,  libC.so.6,  
libdl.so.2,  libqcc s .so.1,  libm.so.6,  libnsl.so.1,  libpnq.so.3, 
libpthread.so.0,  libqt-mt.so.3,  libresolv.so.2,  libstdc++.so.5,  libz.so.1

I can't find any of them on my CDs. 
 
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Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus

2004-03-02 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Tuesday 02 Mar 2004 10:37 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
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 On Tuesday 02 March 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote:
  I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find
  out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format
  magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However,
  from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the
  program and libscribus.

 Keith, I'm interested in trying Scribus as soon as I can get the time
 ;-)  One of the things I need, though, in a DP app is the ability to
 correctly print folded brochures, you know - 2xA5 on an A4 sheet,
 printed 1  24 on one side, 2  23 on the other.  Is this asking too
 much of Scribus at present?

 Anne

Leave it with me for a few days, Anne, until I have started to get to grips 
with Scribus. I'll get back to you as soon as I have found out if it will do 
booklets/brochures.

Cheers for now

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Re: [newbie] Scribus

2004-03-01 Per discussione Keith Powell
 On Sunday 29 February 2004 21:58, Keith Powell wrote:
  Does anyone know if there is a Mandrake RPM for Scribus anywhere?
 
  Can't find one with Google, only tarballs.
 

I will be with you all in a minute, I'm just in this forest looking for a bit 
of wood!!!

Many thanks to all who replied, and sorry for such a basic and badly 
researched question. 

As I said, I could only find tarballs with Google, and I had completely 
forgotten about RPMFIND. 

There is not a Scribus .rpm on my Download Edition disks, so I have now 
downloaded it from RPMFIND and it works.

I asked the question on the Newbie list, for two reasons. 
1) I am a permanent newbie and 
2) I thought that I daren't admit to the Expert list that I have great 
problems with tarballs!

Thanks again for all your help.

Cheers

Keith  





  I've spent some hours trying to install a tarball of it, but get my
  usual screenful of things it can't find and needs. I have almost
  completely abandoned tarballs, as I can rarely get the things to
  install. They always stop during  ./configure  or  make  with lots
  and lots of error messages :-(

 There must be one on one of the mirrors - it's in the power pack of
 both 9.1 and 9.2

 Anne
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Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus

2004-03-01 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 01 Mar 2004 1:44 pm, Lanman wrote:
 The fact that at least one list-member is unable to find Scribus on the
 download CD's for Mandrake 9.1, 9.2, and 10.0, made me wonder how many
 folks on the list are aware that there are 2 lists of packages on the
 Download CD sets.

 Assuming that you normally do your installations using the graphic
 installer included on the CD's, you may not be aware that you can also
 access a detailed list of packages instead of the default package list.
 This could be the reason that some folks on the list aren't seeing some of
 the apps, packages, and libraries which are included on the CD's.

 Also, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that your list of installed
 packages which is viewed in the software installer in MCC shows you a list
 based on how you viewed it during your install. Assuming that this is the
 case, you're missing out on a lot of software contained on the CD's which
 you would normally have to find by browsing each CD manually.

 Next time you're doing an install and you get to the first panel which
 lists main package groups (Workstation, Network Client, Desktops, Server ),
 check the box at the bottom of the panel called Individual Package
 Selection and click Next. Once you're at the next panel, you will see 4
 icons in the lower-left corner of the panel.

 From left to right, icons 12 allow you to view the current list in
 expanded mode, or to close the expanded mode. Icon #3 however, toggles the
 default list to the full comprehensive list or what is also known as the
 Flat List. This is the one which will present you with the detailed list
 of packages. Dependancies will still be selected as required , so don't
 worry about that.

 Icon #4 can also be exceptionally helpful if you have a floppy drive. You
 can use this icon to save your list of packages to a floppy and also to
 read from that floppy disk the next time you need to do an install, on any
 PC, server, or laptop which has a floppy drive. This will save you a
 substantial amount of time when having to re-install, or upgrade.

 If you remember to back up your home folders and config files, you can also
 perform full installs of new versions, then create your old users in the
 same order you had done before, and copy/paste your saved files and configs
 back to their respective folders. Not only will you save time, but you can
 avoid the hassles of leftover package remnants from previous installs
 screwing up your install of the latest version of Mandrake.

 Hope this info helps!

Many thanks, Lanman, for the very useful information. I have printed it out 
for future reference.

Scribus is definitely not on my download CDs. I have looked at the actual 
rpm's on all of them (not just the lists), and it's nowhere in sight. I must 
have bought an incomplete download edition. Can't download the CDs myself, as 
I only have a dial-up Internet connection. 

I have decided that when Mandrake10 is available, I'll buy the boxed set. This 
will teach me not to economise!

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Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus

2004-03-01 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 01 Mar 2004 8:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Keith Powell wrote:
 Many thanks, Lanman, for the very useful information. I have printed it
  out for future reference.
 
 Scribus is definitely not on my download CDs. I have looked at the actual
 rpm's on all of them (not just the lists), and it's nowhere in sight. I
  must have bought an incomplete download edition. Can't download the CDs
  myself, as I only have a dial-up Internet connection.
 
 I have decided that when Mandrake10 is available, I'll buy the boxed set.
  This will teach me not to economise!
 
 Cheers
 
 Keith

 None of these any use to you ?

 http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=Scribussubmit=Searc
h+...


 Mandrake's version is 3.1MB, achievable in a download programme
 like d4x
 , even for dialup.

 John

Thanks for your reply, John.

I had downloaded Scribus using rpmfind, and it works OK.

It was downloading the complete 3 CD Download Version to which I was 
referring. There's no problem with downloading just individual programs, but 
with my limited connect time, downloading the complete distro in bits would 
take weeks!!!

Cheers

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[newbie] Scribus

2004-02-29 Per discussione Keith Powell
Does anyone know if there is a Mandrake RPM for Scribus anywhere?

Can't find one with Google, only tarballs. 

I've spent some hours trying to install a tarball of it, but get my usual 
screenful of things it can't find and needs. I have almost completely 
abandoned tarballs, as I can rarely get the things to install. They always 
stop during  ./configure  or  make  with lots and lots of error messages :-(

Many thanks

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Re: [newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-14 Per discussione Keith Powell
The e-mail address for the program is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, it was Gillian Lacey-Solymar who did the item. I'll send an e-mail and 
see if it does any good.

I am retired and we watch it while we are having our sandwich and piece of 
cake mid-day lunch. Our main meal is in the evening.

There is only one other TV program watched here during the day, Anne. My wife 
is a Countdown enthusiast. I come up here to the computer so that I don't 
have to watch it! 

Keith



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[newbie] [OT] The BBC and Linux.

2004-02-13 Per discussione Keith Powell
I have just been watching a daily Monday-Friday BBC Television 
business/consumer program called Working Lunch.

In it, there was an item about Microsoft's Windows source code being on the 
Internet. During the item, which concentrated on how this would affect we 
computer users, the following statements were made:

You can't just go out on the High Street and buy a different Operating 
system.

There are others, but Windows is the best.

After dwelling on Windows and briefly mentioning Mac, their Consumer Affairs 
Correspondant said, There is a third system called Linux. However it is 
very complicated and you have to be a computer expert to be able to use it. I 
certainly couldn't use it

With a large influential company (the BBC) making such pro-Microsoft and 
anti-Linux statements such as this, we have quite an opposition to overcome. 

It's no good writing to them and complaining, as they won't want to know. 

I sign myself A disgusted viewer.

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Re: [newbie] KWord in Mandrake9.2 won't spell check.

2003-12-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 8:03 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Sunday 07 December 2003 12:04 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
  Has anyone managed to get KWord spell checking working in Mandrake9.2?
  Whenever I try to spell check, KWord just crashes.

 I just installed K-Office to test this. The spelling check (manual) crashes
 when I intentionally misspell words but the auto correction does underline
 them. ASpell didn't work at all, I switched to the Canadian English
 accented dictionary and selected I-Spell. It all worked as expected. BTW
 don't forget that K-Office in 9.2 is a beta package. There may be glitches.
 (-;

  a)  If so, which dictionary do you use?

 Answered above. Did you select the same dictionary as in K-Control? K menu,
 Configuration, Components, Spell Checker? I didn't that's the one (A-Spell)
 that crashes without error when I do a manual check. Auto correction is
 turned on here.

  b)  Can anyone please confirm if English-GB spell checking works

 The only difference between that one and Canadian English w/accents should
 be the accents. I'll start it from a terminal and try it...

 OK, I tried to crash it, _honest!_ I switched the dictionary to GB -w
 accents and hit auto-correction. Nothing but a bunch of stops for input. I
 kept telling it to Ignore All so that it wouldn't correct anything 'cause
 the document I was checking was the load output from running k-word from
 a terminal. I can send you the text if you like but it seems rather
 pointless. I also switched to A-Spell and ran it again, same result.

 
Hello Charlie.

Many thanks for all the help you are giving me. I really do appreciate it.

This gets curiouser and curiouser as Alice said.

I did exactly as you had done, but all it did was to crash.

Since then I have been doing other things on the computer and have tried it 
again. Now it doesn't crash! However.

It spell checks, but I can't get it to differentiate between British and 
American spelling (it accepts both color and colour). Whatever I set the 
KWord spelling settings to, as soon as I clicked on OK to exit the settings 
box, it reverts to English Dictionary, Keeps the encoding I have just set, 
and International Ispell Client. I can't get it to save the new settings.

Then I renamed all the american files in /usr/lib/ispell, just leaving the 
british ones, to try to make ISpell only see the British part of the 
ISpell_en dictionary. I assumed that the dictionary was a combined one and 
the spell checker just chose which country's spellings it needed. But that 
makes no difference - it still accepts both spellings.

That is as far as I have got. A start, but not very far.

Hope this explanation hasn't been too garbled!

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] KWord in Mandrake9.2 won't spell check. (Explained)

2003-12-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
Hoping to reach a wider audience, I have asked on the KDE list if anyone has 
had problems with KWord spell checking. I have received this reply from Dik 
Takken:


On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Keith Powell wrote:

 Is there a problem with spell checking in KWord1.2.92, please?

Yes, there are serious problems with the new KWord. KWord 1.2.94 doesn't
crash anymore, but spell check still not really 100% usable.

Hopefully KWord 1.2.95 will be a lot better. Just stay tuned.

Dik

So that is the answer

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling

2003-12-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Monday 08 Dec 2003 3:34 pm, Alan Dunford wrote:
 On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 4:52 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Sunday 07 Dec 2003 12:46 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
   Keith Powell wro
  
   I live in Yorkshire, so kde-i18-en_GB-3.1.3-1mdk is installed.
   
   One thing I have noticed. All your packages are earlier than mine
(for example, your kdebase-servicemenu is 1.0-6, whereas mine is
1.0-12)
  
   Umm, looks suspicious to me.
  
   Anne has no problems with spell checking in KWord, but she runs
MDK9.1. Mine is MDK9.2.
  
   Again , I'm not yet on M9.2, but it lt is looking like a bug to me
   ?
 
  Why not try a new thread with 9.2 in the subject line, and ask if
  anyone is prepared to look at kword spellchecking?  It would help to
  know
 Link to Application
  a) is anyone able to confirm that spellchecking works, and with which
  dictionary
 
  b) is anyone able to confirm that spellcheking is working with an
  English dictionary, and which one?
 
  Add any other questions you can think of to eliminate factors
 
  Anne

 Am running Mandrake 9.2 here.  Kword spell checker works fine with a (US
 presumably)  English Directory ,  Encoding is US-ASCII and the client is
 International Ispell.

Thanks for your reply, Alan.

As I have recently posted, mine has stopped crashing (at the moment), but 
still doesn't spell check correctly. 

I'll manage with the spell checking I am able to do, until 1.2.95 comes along, 
as Dik explained in his posting which I sent to the list. 

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] KWord in Mandrake9.2 won't spell check.

2003-12-08 Per discussione Keith Powell
In my last post, I said that I had got spell checking to work with KWord, but 
it wouldn't differentiate between British and American spellings. 

I have found a work-around which appears to work.

When starting spell checking and the spell checking box with the alternative 
spellings/words first comes up, the Language shows that it is set to 
English. Scroll through the list and click on English (United Kingdom). 
It then checks with just the UK spellings. 

Very simple and everyone else probably already knew this :-(

Keith


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Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling

2003-12-07 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Saturday 06 Dec 2003 12:45 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Keith Powell wrote:
 Hello Charlie.
 
 Sorry, but your suggestion does not work.
 
 KWord ignores the Control Center/Components/Spell Checker settings,
  and just starts each time with the English Dictionary, US-ASCII
  Encoding, and International Ispell Client.
 
 Even if I change the spelling settings in KWord, it just crashes
  when I try to spell check.
 
 I have uninstalled KOffice and reinstalled it, but the problem is
  the same.
 
 Cheers
 
 Keith

 Is that KDE CC - Components - Spell Checker

 Maybe your missing a kde spellchecker app, I don't know which
 supplies it, but here is a list of all the kde stull on mine and
 english (uk) spellchecker seems to work OK in kword.

Thanks for the reply and the list, John. 

I had several packages not installed, so I installed them. Doing an rpm 
-qa | grep kde on my installation gives me about thirty more packages 
than are on your list. They are mainly libraries, so I assume you 
edited your list.

After installing them, there is still the same problem of KWord crashing 
when I try to spell check, and it not recognising the KDE CC - 
Components - Spell Checker settings. Nor remembering the spelling 
settings in KWord itself.

I have reinstalled KOffice again, and also reinstalled KDE. But it's 
still the same - keeps crashing.

The only thing I may do is to reinstall the complete distro and see if 
that cures it. Otherwise I am at a loss and will have to give up trying 
to use KWord. I daren't trust myself to send any letters without the 
spelling being checked!

 there is also something called,
 kde-i18-en_GB-3.1.3-1mdk

 I guess there is something similar for your required language

I live in Yorkshire, so kde-i18-en_GB-3.1.3-1mdk is installed.

One thing I have noticed. All your packages are earlier than mine (for 
example, your kdebase-servicemenu is 1.0-6, whereas mine is 1.0-12) 
Anne has no problems with spell checking in KWord, but she runs MDK9.1. 
Mine is MDK9.2.  

Cheers

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[newbie] KWord in Mandrake9.2 won't spell check.

2003-12-07 Per discussione Keith Powell
Has anyone managed to get KWord spell checking working in Mandrake9.2?
Whenever I try to spell check, KWord just crashes.

a)  If so, which dictionary do you use?

b)  Can anyone please confirm if English-GB spell checking works 

I have tried using ASpell and ISpell as the dictionaries, and various encoding 
and clients, but every time there is the crash.

Also, KWord does not recognise the settings in KDE - Control Centre - 
Components - Spell Checking. Every time I start it, KWord has gone back to 
English - US-ASCII - International ISpell. If I change the spelling 
settings in KWord, after the crash, it has gone back to these original 
settings.

English-GB Spell checking works with other KDE applications (for example 
KMail), and it also works in Abiword, which uses ASpell.

There was not this problem with Mandrake9.1. 

Many thanks for any advice.

Keith


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Re: [newbie] KWord Spelling

2003-12-05 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 2:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 05 Dec 2003 1:56 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
  Has anyone got the spell checker to work in KWord, please?
 
  I have experimented with various settings in Settings-Configure
  KWord-Spellings.
 
  When it has spell checked the first word, it either won't call up
  the dictionary again, or it crashes with a seg-fault. It won't save
  the settings but keeps reverting to the default ones.
 
  I can't decide if the problem is KWord, or me!
 
  Ispell and Ispell-en are installed, as are Aspell and Aspell-en.
 
  I can't find an answer in the archives.
 
  Many thanks for any advice.
 
  Keith

 I use KWord in 9.1, Keith, and the spelling works fine.  It's set to
 use Aspell Default dictionary, with client set to just Aspell.  HTH

 Anne

Hello Anne

Thanks for the advice.

Sorry, but it doesn't work here :-(

Setting it to Aspell Default dictionary and the Aspell client, causes 
KWord to crash with a signal 11 SIGSEGV error if I try to spell check 
with it. 

Then, when I run KWord again, it's gone back to the English Dictionary, 
US-ASCII encoding and International Ispell client defaults. 

I'm running Mandrake9.2 with KWord1.2.92 

Thanks again, Anne.

Keith


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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-29 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 2:19 pm, Jerry Barton wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:15:57 +

 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You will get that error if you are not using ../base for your
  contrib source.
 
  The whatever/contrib/i586/ contains a synthesis.hdlist2.cz and
  the rpms can be installed using such, But, it does not contain a
  list or hdlist as does base so you get the 'invalid list'

 Thanks Charles,

 My original contrib url is
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586
 path to hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
 (this was the urpmi.addmedia given by easy urpmi on plf)
 that path to hdlist was the only /base dir i could find.  So as far
 as I can tell it was reading the right hdlist.  I'll mess around with
 it and see.  I even tried updating the contrib source or using a
 different one and it still gives me that error when installing from
 contrib.  I'll report back after trying a few things.

 Jerry.

Thanks for the information, Charles.

I was just about to reply, when I read Jerry's reply to you. I use 
rediris, but its path to hdlist is the same as the one Jerry gave.

I too will experiment over the week-end.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Bad signatures in 9.2

2003-11-28 Per discussione Keith Powell
On Wednesday 26 Nov 2003 8:54 am, Jerry Barton wrote:
 On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:18:48 +

 Keith Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was wondering why the Contrib repository was giving the error
  messages with Mandrake9.2, when it didn't with earlier versions.
  Should I try to solve the bad signature message problem, or ignore
  it? That was the reason for my posting. I hadn't seen anyone else
  reporting this happening.

 Keith, same thing happens here.  I just didn't think much of it since
 i got so used to texstar and plf rpms doing it.  I too haven't ever
 had a signature problem with contrib before until now.  That and i
 get some kind of mirror uses invalid list trying alternate method
 message when I install packages from contrib.  but so far i haven't
 had any that haven't installed.

Jerry

I too get the Mirror uses invalid list try alternative method message 
when installing packages from contrib. I didn't mention it, though, as 
I did not want to confuse things even more!

It's still there after a contrib update.

Things install OK, so I ignore it. 

Cheers

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