[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i will give you credit for bringing this to this point, as far as taking credit for first bringing it to the table, i remember bds. talking about this in the 80s, be it moor vs harrington or migliore and dondalson

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Apoojo, I'm sure you're right about others having the idea long before me. The school has been pretty bad for an awfully long time. You also have a great idea (really great) about making this an issue for the upcoming school board election. We should start pressuring candidates now. --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread wernerapnj
Close the HS ? What a terrible idea. The identity of a community's children and young adults is tied to the educational system. Bus them out of town, make really feel like they are not wanted here? Certainly there are better social solutions that closure. Privatization was discussed here, a

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Right Werner, because kids from Spring Lake, Sea Girt, Interlaken and the rest suffer such great identity problems from being bused out of their towms to go school. You can just see it in the way kids from those towns struggle in life. Just no identity to be proud of. Good grief. Let me

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to agree with you Werner. Keep the K-8 they have a chance if the BOE switches to K-8 schools. The High School kids should be bus out to L.B. and Neptune they overbuilt their new schools by a couple hundred

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread asburycouple
I'm with you on this one Tom. I've been advocating state takeover but that's no great solution either. I think this is a better way to go. Bottom line is that this is so broken there's no fixing it as it is today. The reccomendation you have been advocating, and now apparently the APP is,

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good debate goig on here. I'm with you on this one Tom. I've been advocating state takeover but that's no great solution either. I think this is a better way to go. Bottom line is that this is so broken

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread Denise
-To get to LB do you not have to travel through Ocean? -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: I would have to agree with you Werner. Keep the K-8 they have a chance if the BOE switches to K-8

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread Denise
Asbury Park Press Headline Ocean Twp parents blocks bus coming from Asbury Park School District? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: I would have to agree with you Werner. Keep the K-8 they

[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing

2007-02-26 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I respect your right to say whatever you wish, but I feel the way I feel, after much coded language, that some, employ, while not really saying what they really mean! I find this prevalent in groups of individuals, who have an

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Denise you are right to point that out. Under my plan, the High School Students get split among 7 area schools: Manasquan, Wall, Neptune, Ocean, Long Branch, Shore Regional and Red Bank Regional. Also some of the Charter and specialty schools could be utilized. I'm betting we could get the

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread apeaexec1
I am glad to see that there is finally a spirited debate in regard to the Asbury Park School District. I guess we can call it the Tommy Plan? As for the school being dismantled, that is absolutely insane. It will never happen. We all know it and it is ridiculous to think it will happen.

[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing

2007-02-26 Thread asburycouple
Sharon, with all due respect I feel like any time I disagree with any of your positions on any issue I read your responses and feel like you are calling me and anyone who disagrees with you a racist. I know you are replying to Dan, but I share his views and am offended by your reply. Again,

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
and in the editorial: At the same time, steps should be taken to separate those students who are not interested in learning, or who prove disruptive to the learning environment, from those seeking a good education. 1. Problem is now, there is NO place to stick the troublemakers - other then to

[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: You are wrong Sharon it's not race it's job performeance and the past 4 Supers. and didn't perform, including the acting Super. They let the system die. Now they

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
apeaexec1, Why is your solution always run for the board of ed? Why, so another crop of people can fight with the administration while the kids go nowhere? We're way past that. It's time to end it all. No sense wasting more youth while we check our watches waiting for developments that

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Oak, You bring up a good point that was covered alot on Randy Bergmann's Blog. We are talking about resources. When a school has a vast majority of kids who need no special attention, then they will have plenty of resources to deal with the few kids that need attention. Now look at Asbury

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy even I do agree with you on some of your points. Now Sharons issues come into play because these white communities will NOT ALLOW this to happen. Maybe 25 years from now. The State could start by ending this

[AsburyPark] Re: Wise words from the Asbury Park Pedaler

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I couldn't beleive how many members were already in the choir! I did mean photo ops, where Larry Fishman coached merchants on what to say; including all of the typical BS rhetoric on oceanfront asbury website. I was quoted in several newsprints, however, not the useless ones in Asbury (do I

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
You make a good point Fred, which is why I advocate a Federal Civil Rights lawsuit to desegregate the schools. There is no political will on either side to tackle it. Absent some miraculous change of heart by the towns and politicians, we are going to need that Federal Court Order. I'm

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread apeaexec1
Tommy, Be real. Your family is from this district and my family is from this district. You all graduated from the High School. Do you really want to see your alma mater dismantled? And have all these kids sent all over the county? Some of the comments are right. The kids in these other

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You make a good point Fred, which is why I advocate a Federal Civil Rights lawsuit to desegregate the schools. A lawyer advocating a lawsuit. How novel!;) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
ocean can't handle what they have now - ask conti. trust me on this one. Out of control. Nothing they can do with at least 30% of the kids or more. Maybe if OT could get 30% of AP's funding. that would be 50% of our ENTIRE budget. I'd take that 30mill the first year, lease and fit out a

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread asburycouple
I would love to agree with you that getting involved is the answer. I tend to agree with Tom that the problem is so pervasive that we're well beyond that. It seems that you are oversimplifying the issue - this isn't about Lewis although he clearly was a problem. These problems have existed

[AsburyPark] Re: Allan: Here are the facts on the Bikes on the Boardwalk

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one wanted to make sure that cycling on the boardwalk was safe more than I, and I always made that clear. I had my own 2 year old and 5 year old on that boardwalk 3 days a week (what was I thinking???). The

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
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[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
John, The High School was dismantled 10 years ago when they segregated it. That's not my alma mater. I went to a desegregated school with white kids, black kids, rich kids and poor kids.] That school is gone; there is a racially segregated school there and I have no love for a segregated

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, The High School was dismantled 10 years ago when they segregated it. That's not my alma mater. I went to a desegregated school with white kids, black kids, rich kids and poor kids.] That school is

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of anyone I gew up with from Interlaken or Deal that has a social problem cause of the high school they HAD to go to. The kids that went to St. Rose, RBC and CBA all seem ok. Now those that went to AP, some

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lawyer advocating a lawsuit. How novel!;) I'm sure glad you weren't around to dissuade Thurgood Marshall from advocating Brown v Bd of Educaiton ;-) By the way how ironic Marshall was the attorney on Brown v Bd. of Ed

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I am the pedaler. Realize first, that I have no reason to lie on my web page. I put down the facts the way that I see them. I came here with the very best of intentions of starting and keeping my business here. I don't know where the demand originated; just that the police were the ones sent

[AsburyPark] The Poor Homeless

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread eorslady
Hi, What about the teachers and other administrators do they have any accountablility to our children? How could generation after generation go to school in this district and not obtain an education? I am asking you this because you seem to have all the answers. If there is no

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread apeaexec1
Tommy, maybe if we begin to fix it, it will change back to the school that you did graduate from as well as the one that my brothers, your brothers and sisters and our fathers graduated from. When were saying they have no identity, it's to a town and a school system. When a kid graduates

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Fred; would you say the city didn't chase anyone if cops went to a bathing suit store and told them they'd be enforcing the city's ordinance of no one in bathing attire allowed on boardwalk or adjacent walkways? Three prominent city officials gave me a verbal go ahead to spend $14,000.00 on a

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Hinge
As a lifelong cyclist, and former bike shop employee, I was overjoyed at the sight of the AP Peddler on the boardwalk. One of the reasons I chose to move to AP was the hope of having a friendly and safe place to ride my bike, and I was excited about the possibility of finally having a place

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
we've said it before, you can bus the kids to private schools as well. At 10k per kid - give themeven $12k per kid. Then whomever wants could pocket the other $8k per kid. There should be a federal lawsuit against the BOE for failing to educate for 10 years and squandering Abbott money. Bus

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it segregated? Whites fled no? No sir. This was vetted over at Randy's Blog. Please bear with me as I go through this here one time. I'd love Frank and John to give me their thoughts. I take no issue with the

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What about the teachers and other administrators do they have any accountablility to our children? How could generation after generation go to school in this district and not obtain an education? I am asking you this

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred; Your voice is falling on dead ears. He's a Bruno cheerleader if not relative. Everyone I've spoken to agrees that this corrupt city can't do anything right. No evidence of corruption. Only

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So on a legal analysis, what the Commissioner created was a situation where little Johhy Whitebread has a right to learn the oboe that outwieghs the Constitutional Right of black kids in Asbury Park to be in a

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I don't know that it is missed opportunity. They'll probably entice some other poor unsuspecting entrepreneur to come in and start a similar business. Then after he/she invests their life savings earned over twenty years in a hard lived career; they'll pull the rug out from under them too, for

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Isn't it really the same thing? Can't we trust our elected officials to act competently in the name of the people? And if not, isn't that corruption? Furthermore, if you don't beleive there is corruption (not necessarily evidence of it; after all, a murderer doesn't always provide evidence,

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
furthermore, the agenda of fred is clear. I don't expect to change his mind, just to respond in an open forum; so that those who would play into the rhetoric are, at least, exposed to mine. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it really the same thing? Can't we trust our elected officials to act competently in the name of the people? And if not, isn't that corruption? Furthermore, if you don't beleive there is corruption (not

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler robert@ wrote: Isn't it really the same thing? Can't we trust our elected officials to act competently in the name of the people? And if not, isn't that

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread eorslady
Please check your information. I believe it was an Asbury Park resident who suggested to Belmar, Bradley Beach, Interlaken have your children take music and the arts as a major subject. Then went to Red Bank and was paid to help create a music and arts program. It was challenged I believe

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whites fled. 1,000 times No! Fleeing would be moving out of the district. They are still in the district as we speak. The Commish is busing them to another. That isn't fleeing by parents; thats segregation by the

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Oh, and just because no one investigates a crime, doesn't mean evidence won't turn up when investigated. I know for a fact, and can prove that corruption is here, albeit on a small scale; but any good cop will tell you, investigate the small crimes, and they'll unearth the larger ones. --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1,000 times No! Fleeing would be moving out of the district. They are still in the district as we speak. The Commish is busing them to another. That isn't fleeing by parents; thats segregation by the

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Please check your own information. Mine's been checked. I have the ruling in my hot little hands. It is from the State Commissioner of Education. It was not brought to Court in a Federal Civil Rights Action as it should have been 10 years ago. You are correct about the ruling - it was based

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Now you are disagreeing with Brown v Bd. of Ed. (I don't think you intend to). Schools that are segregated by race via State action, be it intentional or de facto, is forbidden in America. Performance being down only helps our cause. I don't think there is any question that the ruling by

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler robert@ wrote: Why is it incompenence? They has reasons didn't they. Weren't they worried about people getting hurt? Weren't they worried about enforcement? Go ask

[AsburyPark] No child left behind Act

2007-02-26 Thread Denise
If a child attends a Title I school that has been designated by the state to be in need of improvement or unsafe, parents can choose to send the child to another public school. Districts must let parents know each year if their child is eligible to transfer to another school, and districts

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
The parents are electing where to send their kids. From what you say, some convinced to get their sending district changed to Wall. If that failed, don't you think they would of just sent their kids to private schools - like St. Rose or RBC. Others elected, in 8th grade, to let their kids

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Yes, mr. bruno, they had reasons. You felt intimidated by city youths, and made it about bikes instead, so as to not be politically incorrect. Look, it's already obvious to me that you would rather be right, than see the city suceed. all of the pompous politicians here are living in their own

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread apeaexec1
The RBR deal for all the districts, especially Deal, Interlaken and Allenhurst is a copout for those towns. It's a loophole that I have questioned in Interlaken for several years. When I questioned it for the sake of making these parents either send their kids to AP or send them to a school

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
If I would have been informed beforehand, I could have changed the plan. But there was no reason to change the plan, as I was encouraged. Particularly when I asked about renting prior to purchasing the new fleet. If I was quoted as to city ordinances, which according to your ideals, should

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I never felt the need to go to council meetings just to do a business I was encouraged to do. Furthermore I never wanted to do so, as it would be so predictable for me to do so, that I would not have any credence. I told everyone involved that I wanted to stay out of it, because the city

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will relay the message to him. Yes, mr. bruno, they had reasons. You felt intimidated by city youths, and made it about bikes instead, so as to not be politically incorrect. Look, it's already obvious to

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you are saying if the ordinance wasn't enforced you would have stayed? You know who you should blame then. If I would have been informed beforehand, I could have changed the plan. But there was no reason to

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I'm saying that I would not have spent $14K on new rental units if I was told that they would enforce bike restrictions on the boardwalk in the upcoming season. You attitude towards this is exactly why this place is doomed to fail, yet again. Why not be progressive, particularly when the

[AsburyPark] Whats the deal with Wesley Grove?

2007-02-26 Thread Hinge
I was out walking my dog over the weekend, and I noticed a bunch of the first floor units have sold signs on them. I also noticed that there were some broken windows, and it looks like there isn't any sheetrock anywhere. Have they stopped working on the project. On a side note, it bums me

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Momma always says there a 3 sides to evey story. I'd like to meet your Momma. Incompetence? You're kidding right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Furthermore, the ordinance was selectively enforced, which was a bigger slap in the face than anything. At least, when you know where you stand, you can base decisions on solid criteria. Firstly, they went iunto twenty four hour enforcement, so I couldn't even rent the damn things after 6 pm.

[AsburyPark] Re: Whats the deal with Wesley Grove?

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Progress! Where are all the contractors in the city? What, can't get people to work when you refuse to pay them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was out walking my dog over the weekend, and I noticed a bunch of the first floor units have sold signs on

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Hinge
Why not be progressive? Exactly my thought. Bike lanes along the beach work in many places, and they definitely would've worked in AP. The Strand in LA is the best example I can think of. Only difference is it's concrete rather then wood. When I lived in LA, tons and tons of people shared

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Good, tell him we miss him on his boardwalk. I can't understand why he made such a stink. All he had to do to not feel intimidated on his boardwalk was stay off it like normal (except when there's a camera there willing to take his picture). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
When Reidy told me the plan, it sounded great. A center lane with a 5 MPH speed limit. Anyone operating outside of these guidelines would be enforced. What's the problem? Especially since roads were not condusive to cycling, particularly with ocean view. The other thing that bothers me is that

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I've only been on this forum for a few hours, but that became apparrent right off the bat. I can imagine who this is, he's probably been waiting for me to find this forum. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

[AsburyPark] Re: Whats the deal with Wesley Grove?

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
have sold signs on them. I also noticed that there were some broken windows, and it looks like there isn't any sheetrock anywhere. Told u so. Why they stop rocking the place? How many have they actually sold?? As an FYI - you can take a look at the 2nd floor apartments at The

[AsburyPark] Re: Whats the deal with Wesley Grove?

2007-02-26 Thread Hinge
Not sure how many they sold, but there are quite a few sold signs. Maybe i'm wrong about this, but I first noticed them around the time the announced the trolley tour of the area. H. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have sold signs on them. I also

[AsburyPark] Re: Whats the deal with Wesley Grove?

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I remember when Asbury Partners, in an effort to excite merchants, told us that Wesley Grove would have Fall of '05 occupancy! Then Spring '06, then October '06 (i thought it was bold of them to pick a month instead of a season) still waiting --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I can see Fred now, furiously shredding the evidence --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler robert@ wrote: Fred, you do realize that my Shop only opened to the boardwalk, right? Shouldn't someone

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't know who you are. I'm just going on hearsay, like always. I just think you should have more of a hardon for yourself and stop blaming everyone for your poor business decision. That being said you

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Peterson
While I am sorry to hear about the toubles you had. You can not expect the city to suggest where you open. - Original Message From: asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:48:29 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread 2fine4u
Sounds better than what we have and I say, KEEP, the 1%, if it works! I know Conti, too! He was an excellent Football Coach at AP, for years! He knew me, from my Pop Warner days. On Thanksgiving Day, I'd take one boy from Asbury and 1 from Neptune, to the LM Diner, on the Circle. All of the

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I agree. Knowing what I know now, I would not expect the city to do anything in good faith; I just wish I had not come here with blind faith! Truly, my own fault for having a good heart, and being a man of my word. Shouldn't expect others to have such ethics; even when it could be good for

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's that suppose to mean. With so much hate for Asbury Partners and Asbury Politics it's funny you have asburypedaler as your screen name. Shouldn't it be allenhurstpedaler? I can see Fred now, furiously

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same thing Conti was chased from Asbury Park, some people in the Community and the Board wanting him out. They got their wish. Now compare football programs. Sounds better than what we have and I say, KEEP, the 1%, if it

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Fred? You still with us? I've no reason to hide, my freind. My name says who I am, and you can see my face on front page of my website, should you so desire. I proudly speak the truth under my first ammendment right! Yes, I should do just fine in my new location, where the city seems to not

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you open your business first, then talk to Reidy or visa versa? I agree. Knowing what I know now, I would not expect the city to do anything in good faith; I just wish I had not come here with blind

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I am sorry to hear about the toubles you had. You can not expect the city to suggest where you open. Kill two birds with one stone. In regard to Fred's post too. You miss the point. It is not that he was

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Ah, but no. No hate here; all of you will meet your maker one day, and may he be fair and just! I named it Asbury Park Pedaler for a reason you'd not understand. I will not change it because the pompous better-than-me people like yourself want me to. It still represents what I went into

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tommy, your right, just read this and fifty other posts,extreme situations take unusual or even illegal actions to correct injustices. the bd. should put the state on notice we are shutting down the high school on june

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I opened in '05. The city selectively enforced the ordinance in '05 as well. But it worked to my advantage, as they didn't adversely affect my business. On the contrary, when it was announced that the city would begin enforcement (again, no consistency; it was the middle of the season), the

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Come on Oak. The parents can't do it without the State ruling saying even though you live in this district, we'll let you go to another. Know of any other district that is being allowed this exception? The State is letting it happen, when they are the ones who are supposed to be there to

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburyparkpedaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have no reason, not to believe some of your posts,im sorry what happened to you did and wish you luck,however i disagree with several of your statements, knowing j. bruno for many years i have never known him to

[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing

2007-02-26 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: You are wrong Sharon it's not race it's job performeance and the past 4 Supers. and didn't

[AsburyPark] Re: No child left behind Act

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
Denise, As I understand the No Child Left Behind Act, there are situations where a child has the right to elect another school. In addition to performance, another is if they suffer an act of bullying. Usually it is to another school within a district. So if a child wants to switch from

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Anyone that actually spent any time on the boards and observed knows that I speak the truth. Council members don't count, they only came up for the photo ops. Keady went to Bradley Beach to illegally cycle the boards there. Anyone there knew that the bike cops spent a full two thirds of their

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread eorslady
This not first time the board attorney has checked this matter. The board attorney may have that information. Yes I agree with you the state board of education should sued. They have allowed this mess to go on for far too long, yes you have been paying for students to attend Red Bank Music

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I have reported it (corruption), only it's to the city. They are obviously not interested in what I have to say. If someone wanted to collect my info in a forum where it would be properly addressed and processed, I'd offer it up; but I haven't found anyone yet interested in the truth. I can

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When were saying they have no identity, it's to a town and a school system. When a kid graduates from ASbury PArk, more than likely, he grew up in Asbury PArk. When a kid graduates from Ocean Township, he lived in

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Peterson
Love how you place your twist on things. I did not place full blame on this guy. Would be impossible for me to do so since I do not know the entire story. I was not there for these conversations and people directly involved have not responded here either. So if you want, you can listen to

[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing

2007-02-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: The names I was talking

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Peterson
Always seems to come to racism.. - Original Message From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 4:57:47 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Fred asburydogma@ ... wrote:

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I think it's absolutely fair what you said, and didn't take it as full blame on me. I definately deserve the blame, ultimately. Even though I am new to business, and want to take people at face value; I am, and was very aware that anything not in writing is not to be relied upon. I just think

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The RBR deal for all the districts, especially Deal, Interlaken and Allenhurst is a copout for those towns. It's a loophole that I have questioned in Interlaken for several years. When I questioned it for the sake of

[AsburyPark] Re: I'm Vindicated! Close the High School!

2007-02-26 Thread oakdorf
The parents in the sending districts have the opportunity to send their kids to private schools. What about parents from those towns who elected to rent a winter home in such towns as ocean to wall twp - so their kids went there?? Just - why don't you send your kids to AP? You going to send

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