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2004-04-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
I am not judging. I am certainly not judging the people. I am just pointing out that the number of people who _want_ to come to the US greatly exceeds the number who _can_ come to the US. Since this is true, it seems to me (and people definitely have differing opinions on this one) that the peop

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2004-04-06 Thread Lyons, Larry
il 06, 2004 10:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > It was probably me. > > But I want to be clear, I wasn't trying to single out the > Palestinian woman on the show, she just happened to be the > example that popped into mind, since her

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2004-04-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
It was probably me. But I want to be clear, I wasn't trying to single out the Palestinian woman on the show, she just happened to be the example that popped into mind, since her words were so clear. The show on PBS, The New Americans, highlighted a diverse set of folks with diverse backgrounds, p

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2004-04-06 Thread John Stanley
idi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:11 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people Tim, you make excellent points. Let me make myself clear here. I am in no way trying to compare the Blackwater guys to terrorists. I was only refuting the point that John (I think)

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2004-04-06 Thread Marwan Saidi
ginal Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:49 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people We think that one of the Black Water consultants that was recently killed was a good friend of mine.  He was a team leader in my national guard unit. H

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2004-04-06 Thread Lyons, Larry
> -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:49 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > People come to this country to find freedom.  He went to Iraq > to bring it. More people come here t

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2004-04-06 Thread Heald, Tim
organization(s).  Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people We think

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2004-04-06 Thread Lyons, Larry
So sorry to hear about the loss of your friend and comrade Tim, please accept my condolences. Respectfully, larry > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:49 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people &

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2004-04-06 Thread Heald, Tim
zations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Marwan Saidi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people Actually, you can't use the concern of taking fire. The cont

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2004-04-06 Thread Marwan Saidi
am H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Nice people But are the civilian contractors in Iraq really comparable to the Palestinians on the show? Are the Palestinians on the show working for a Palestinian company in America? (I don

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2004-04-05 Thread William H Bowen
But are the civilian contractors in Iraq really comparable to the Palestinians on the show? Are the Palestinians on the show working for a Palestinian company in America? (I don't know as I haven't seen the show in question) The contractors in Iraq AFAIK, didn't bring their wives/husbands and

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2004-04-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
Excellent example. The situations aren't totally analogous, but close enough. If there were American civilians that wanted to permanently move to Iraq for the jobs, then I think they should get first crack. If there were no takers then and only then should short-timers get the chance for those jo

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2004-04-05 Thread Marwan Saidi
Um, I am sure that the thousands of Americans in Iraq (civilian security, development, etc) have exactly NO plans to STAY there. They are making their money while they can, then bolting. I am also pretty sure that they are not too keen on their "country" right now either. I can understand missing

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
a reasonable pont of view I guess. It does get a bit silly, as in the eample I mentioned where restaurants in Montreal's Chinatown (a fairly large one) were being told that at least half of the signs they put up had to be in French. I see it as a case of a population that has been persecuted gett

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
to get my truck registered with ontario > >-Original Message- >From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:09 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Nice people > > >Up until that point you had been a US resident though, correct? And

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2004-04-01 Thread Jerry Johnson
For the same reason I don't expect all of the goods I buy in Chinatown to have more than half the labeling in English. Or the Kosher food labeling in English. Or the French Cheese in English, or the computer chair box in English. As part of a global economy, we here in America have the ability to

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
: CF-Community Subject: Re: Nice people Up until that point you had been a US resident though, correct? And you are still a US citizen? Maybe that was the difference. Here is all I know. Several years ago I went north for the summer. The children were little and I took many cubic feet of st

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
you don't think it is understandable that a group of French speakers would say that your marketing materials must be in French if you want to sell here? Whyever not? Dana > I don't agree that it is understandable, or tolerable. > > I personally think it is wrong, regardless of the excuses or his

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
ver inspected the >truck or asked me to pay taxes. I even showed them a list of all the >items I was bringing into the country. > >-Original Message- >From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:10 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: R

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
Its one of those things I am really torn about. larry > -Original Message- > From: Dharmesh Goel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > Hi Larry, > > How about completin

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2004-04-01 Thread Dharmesh Goel
3 months for OHIP (medical insurance) to kick in. Dharmesh -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people We've been considering moving back to Canada, but that has been one drawba

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
: CF-Community Subject: Re: Nice people Not sure about people being told to turn around, but if you show up with late-model vehicle, some televisions, a computer or two, bunches of American clothes, etc, you are supposed to pay duty on it. There is a one-time exemption for people who are long

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2004-04-01 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't agree that it is understandable, or tolerable. I personally think it is wrong, regardless of the excuses or historic reasons. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 10:22AM >>> there is vandalism everywhere, and ignorance as well. AFAIK the law does not say you must have only Fre

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
you can always go back if you are a citizen; the issue is whether you will have to pay duty on your stuff. Dana >I don't think that I would have that problem, being a Canadian citizen. > >larry > > > >This electronic communication, together with any attachments, may contain >information that is l

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
there is vandalism everywhere, and ignorance as well. AFAIK the law does not say you must have only French on the label, only that the French content must equal the content in the other language. A pain for small manufacturers in other countruies, but again, after surviving a few hundred years of

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2004-04-01 Thread a cantrl .
Red Dawn. >Remind me again why we even cared to free them from Sadam? > >http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm19126_20040331.htm > > >I know it is generalizing, but i cant find in the article where it says that >anyone tried to stop this. so to me it looks like the people of Iraq get off >on

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
und. > >-Original Message- >From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Nice people > > >We've been considering moving back to Canada, but that has been one >drawback >to the

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2004-04-01 Thread Kevin Graeme
That sounds great! I think I could even make that happen here. It's a college town. Lots of drunk people doing stupid things anyway. Hm. Barenaked Bomb Curling will be the next Olympic event. Mark my words. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "John Stanley" > Curling would be more po

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
I don't think that I would have that problem, being a Canadian citizen. larry > -Original Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:52 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > I was luc

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
CF-Community > Subject: Re: Nice people > > > You want to market in Quebec, your label needs to contain > French. I don't find that unreasonable, personally, > especially given the history, as I said. > > >The one that got me was banning all Passover related it

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
looked up sovereignty association and found no mention of health care, just an analogy to the EU. FWIW. http://www.law.ualberta.ca/ccskeywords/sovereignty.html >47 percent support sovereignty association, not independence. Only 28% >according to the poll you cited support independence. > >There i

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
That's what FoamDomes are for. -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people That is the real secret to curling. Cheap beer. But have you ever tried sweeping while holding a

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
open doors? hehe >Except the US.. Maybe we should rethink our "open doors". > > >> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-04-01 Thread John Stanley
damn, forgot about the permafrosti live so close to Canada, I really should visit more -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:54 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people Sure we do. During those 2 days of the year

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
who wouldn't :) >There is a difference. SA means that they would still be in a health care, >economic and tax union. In other words they want all the benefits of being >in Canada without any of the costs. ::nod:: it's a divided country. Getting back to my original point though, Canada muddles th

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
ity > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > I'm convinced curling was invented because someone wanted a > sport that enabled you to still hold a beer in your hand. > > -Original Message- > From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 0

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
Sure we do. During those 2 days of the year when the ground is not actually frozen and you can drive a railroad tie into it. -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:50 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people C

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people We've been considering moving back to Canada, but that has been one drawback to the issue, while I would have no problems, Wendy could not work for quite a

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2004-04-01 Thread John Stanley
C'mon, horseshoesdo you guys play that up there? -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:49 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people I'm convinced curling was invented because someone wanted a sport that enab

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
You want to market in Quebec, your label needs to contain French. I don't find that unreasonable, personally, especially given the history, as I said. >The one that got me was banning all Passover related items in specialty >stores because there was no French on them. And this man's remarks were

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2004-04-01 Thread John Stanley
unity Subject: RE: Nice people LOL I'm southern...I don't even know the rules. I've decided that trying out the inventory of the Beer Store is a better idea. (j/k) -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM To: CF-C

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
I'm convinced curling was invented because someone wanted a sport that enabled you to still hold a beer in your hand. -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:45 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people No curling.

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2004-04-01 Thread John Stanley
: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:45 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people No curling. larry > -Original Message- > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Su

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
LOL I'm southern...I don't even know the rules. I've decided that trying out the inventory of the Beer Store is a better idea. (j/k) -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice p

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
No curling. larry > -Original Message- > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > More time to play hockey!   ;-) > > -Original Message

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
ginal Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:40 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > Canada won't let me work for any Canadian company until my > paperwork is completed. It actually states o

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2004-04-01 Thread John Stanley
More time to play hockey!   ;-) -Original Message- From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:40 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people Canada won't let me work for any Canadian company until my paperwork is completed. It actually s

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2004-04-01 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Except the US.. Maybe we should rethink our "open doors". > -Original Message- > From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:36 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > Most countries make it very d

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2004-04-01 Thread Dan Phillips
o: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people Most countries make it very difficult for non-citizen to get jobs in the country. larry > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:30 AM > To: CF-Community > Subj

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
Most countries make it very difficult for non-citizen to get jobs in the country. larry > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:30 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Nice people > > > I th

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
problem with what Parizeau and Michaud advocate. larry > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:28 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Nice people > > > I am not sure what you think may statement

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2004-04-01 Thread Kevin Graeme
I thought of doing that, but then I read somewhere that India has policies that prevent non-Indians getting jobs. Particularly in the IT sector. (That "read somewhere" = non-authoritative source.) -Kevin - Original Message - From: "brobborb" > hmmm..  I do remember some post on slashdo

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
I am not sure what you think may statement is. I am one of those inbetween people myself. My point is that 47% support sovereignty, which to me means Quebec as a separate country. The numbers drop into the 20s for the English-speaking population, which is only to be expected. The numbers also drop

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
violence or by legal fiat. larry > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:17 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Nice people > > > Larry, > > Actually, I am glad the referendum was defeated a

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2004-04-01 Thread dana tierney
Larry, Actually, I am glad the referendum was defeated as this makes the best economic sense for both Quebec and Canada. Furthermore I think some of the language laws are rather silly, such as requiring French on signs in Chinatown. However, to describe the PQ's policies as "ethnic cleansing" wit

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2004-04-01 Thread Jerry Johnson
Watching again last night, I realize that she is not anti-America, but just a biatch who loves to say nasty things. To her husband "I hate you" and "Don't touch me". But she pulled it all out if the fire for me when she took a job at a Jewish day-care center. And then convinced her hubby to buy a

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Nice people > > > larry, fyi, I went googling... your figures are accurate for > the english-speaking population. Not the French speakers. > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/ti

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2004-04-01 Thread Lyons, Larry
ty > Subject: Re: Nice people > > > It may depend on the way the question is worded. Even I > consider the matter a very close call and am only against it > because it is impractical from both points of view. I will > say for a fact that in the early 90s the east end

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2004-04-01 Thread Angel Stewart
Yes. Sorries. -Gel -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons Gel, hold off on the personal attacks please. larry -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.230 / Virus Database: 262.6.5 - Release Date: 3/31/2004 [To

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2004-04-01 Thread John Stanley
it sounds stupid, but that was the funniest episode. Kevin definately has a gift for playing the most powerless people ever. -Original Message- From: Brendan Avery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people PREMISE BEACH

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
larry, fyi, I went googling... your figures are accurate for the english-speaking population. Not the French speakers. http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/13 Dana >In Quebec its a very different situation. Well over half the province do >not want to separate. Moreover, in the last referendum

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
It may depend on the way the question is worded. Even I consider the matter a very close call and am only against it because it is impractical from both points of view. I will say for a fact that in the early 90s the east end of Montreal was so solidly PQ that the other parties didn't even try. Whe

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
that applies to this >case, in 2004 to any american behaviours. > >-Original Message- >From: dana tierney >To: CF-Community >Sent: 3/31/04 5:10 PM >Subject: Re: Nice people > >John. Oklahoma City. Waco. Doesn't mean what happened in Iraq was OK, of >course,

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2004-03-31 Thread Jim Davis
, 2004 1:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people How many lynchings were there in the southern US in the last 150 years? Reading about them shows those lynchings to be far more brutal. At least the victims in Iraq were already dead. larry > -Original Message- > Fro

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2004-03-31 Thread John Stanley
pretty much mercilessly slaughtered, but I dont think that applies to this case, in 2004 to any american behaviours. -Original Message- From: dana tierney To: CF-Community Sent: 3/31/04 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Nice people John. Oklahoma City. Waco. Doesn't mean what happened in Ira

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2004-03-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In Quebec its a very different situation. Well over half the province do not want to separate. Moreover, in the last referendum vote, many of the separatiste votes were a protest over the federal government.  From what I understand, the support for separatism is less than 1/3rd the population a

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
y    > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:12 PM    > Subject: Re: Nice people > >    > No, as a specific example, the young Palestinian woman said she hates > America, its an awful place, and couldn't wait to leave for good. >    > Her husband, on the other

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
good point. But a country can be not altogether stable and yet have elections and be a place where you can go to the store without getting shot :) Look at Canada for example. It isn't even sure it wants to be a country, nor is it clear that it should. And I say this as someone who voted *against* t

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2004-03-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that was sarcasm). >-Gel > >-Original Message- >From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:28 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Nice people > > >> Are you attempting to make the non-sequitur comparison of Iraq's &

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2004-03-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Remember it also depends on what locals you're talking about. In the north, the Turkomen and Kurdish regions, the American forces can almost do no wrong. In the west and the Sunni triangle, apparently its worse than Vietnam. For the rest of the country apparently its mixed. Remember that Iraq i

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
I saw a PBS show on Jasper where locals seemed to be saying that Byrd deserved it... Dana >Sure it's Phelps, but I recall when it happened that there were talk shows >with guests that basically said, "he deserved it". > > >-Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubsc

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2004-03-31 Thread brobborb
still here, but not IN YOUR FACE like India's caste system.   - Original Message -   From: Angel Stewart   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:48 PM   Subject: RE: Nice people   No, I was not implying that Americans were excessive, or that its   behaviour was

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2004-03-31 Thread brobborb
I forgot to add. Give her some time.  She's really emotional and misses home, having to adjust to a new place and all.     - Original Message -   From: brobborb   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:39 PM   Subject: Re: Nice people   hmmm..  I do rem

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2004-03-31 Thread Angel Stewart
No, I was not implying that Americans were excessive, or that its behaviour was exceptional at all. What I said, and I thought it was quite clear, was that America is no stranger to barbaric acts during its formative years. The bit about genetics, my girlfriend and her temper was meant as hum

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2004-03-31 Thread Angel Stewart
and goodness out to save the world one nation at a time. All hail Caesar. All roads lead to the US. (and yes that was sarcasm). -Gel -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:28 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice peopl

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2004-03-31 Thread brobborb
2:12 PM   Subject: Re: Nice people   No, as a specific example, the young Palestinian woman said she hates America, its an awful place, and couldn't wait to leave for good.   Her husband, on the other hand, was all for America and all it stands for.   I can understand missing culture, m

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
Yes. Now if only a graceful way could be found to get them out of a situation into which they should not have been put in the first place... having invaded the US does need to leave the country relatively stable, unfortunately, since their presence does not appear to be desired by the locals. Get t

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2004-03-31 Thread dana tierney
John. Oklahoma City. Waco. Doesn't mean what happened in Iraq was OK, of course, but I think you overgeneralize. Stop me before I bring up Wounded Knee and Little Big Horn... Dana >In the mean time, I'll keep my eyes peeled for the next news reports of a >terrorist attack here, or someplace else

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2004-03-31 Thread Brendan Avery
PREMISE BEACH... He's got a meat-hand! -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people i understand that, but I wonder if that is what is on the minds of at least some of the sol

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2004-03-31 Thread Brendan Avery
other people. Look up jingoism in the dictionary. -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Nice people Remind me again why we even cared to free them from Sadam? http://www.freep.com

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2004-03-31 Thread Kevin Graeme
> I even asked for > instances that people could show me of americans acting that way. Here's two: James Byrd Jr. "In June of 1998, James Byrd, Jr., age 49, was savagely dragged behind the back of a pick-up truck for three miles along Huff Creek Road in Jasper, Texas. His crime was the color of h

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2004-03-31 Thread Howie Hamlin
The Chinese have become much more advanced in the art of execution (thanks, in part, to Toyota): http://tinyurl.com/2ruhl   - Original Message -   From: Tangorre, Michael   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:43 PM   Subject: RE: Nice people   1930s... That'

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2004-03-31 Thread John Stanley
>> Are you attempting to make the non-sequitur comparison of Iraq's present >> state, with America's current state? >> Such a comparison is impossible. No it's not. Someone can say, gee look at the way those Iraqi people are acting.  That's wrong and WE dont act that way. Whether the conclusi

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2004-03-31 Thread Lyons, Larry
Answers inline. > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > We aren't talking about recent times though are we? > We are talking a

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2004-03-31 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, as a specific example, the young Palestinian woman said she hates America, its an awful place, and couldn't wait to leave for good. Her husband, on the other hand, was all for America and all it stands for. I can understand missing culture, missing the homeland, but I don;t agree with coming

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2004-03-31 Thread Angel Stewart
Are you attempting to make the non-sequitur comparison of Iraq's present state, with America's current state? Such a comparison is impossible. Compare events in America during its own period of nation building, with barbaric occurrences in Iraq. Ergo my suggestion to consult your history book

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2004-03-31 Thread Angel Stewart
We aren't talking about recent times though are we? We are talking about America's History, when the nation was being built. I also wasn't attempting to 'compare' degrees of brutality, or to say that other nations have not had brutal histories. I was trying to point out that indeed America was not

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2004-03-31 Thread Lyons, Larry
blame are worse practitioners. larry > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:11 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > Wow, >   > A surprise defender. >   > Good poi

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2004-03-31 Thread brobborb
am ungrateful".  I think they really mean "I cannot wait to go home and see my family and be home once again".  And i see nothing wrong with that.   - Original Message -   From: Jerry Johnson   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:07 PM   Subject: Re: Ni

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2004-03-31 Thread Lyons, Larry
Poached horse. That must take a huge pot to cook. What's the recipe? larry > -Original Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > Interesting po

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2004-03-31 Thread Heald, Tim
erspective here. larry > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > You'd swear similar riots, beatings, and heinous mob acts of >

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2004-03-31 Thread John Stanley
A common vein of reasoning is to excuse heinous behaviour by looking for other behaviour along the same lines. >>You'd swear similar riots, beatings, and heinous mob acts of violence >>have never occurred in the history of the United States. The key word is history there. Sure, two hundred ye

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2004-03-31 Thread Dan Phillips
"settle it like men". -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people There will be as least many as before, if not a lot more. Most murders for instance are not rational and

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2004-03-31 Thread Jerry Johnson
to the states and make a living.  he also added that it took america 200 years to get to where it is right now, so he's not waiting around for it to happen in palestine. great show about foreigners comin over here.  i love it.  heartbrekaing stuff too :(   - Original Message -   

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2004-03-31 Thread Lyons, Larry
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > I've thought that in order to curb crime, we should do it > like the old days. Take people out int

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2004-03-31 Thread Lyons, Larry
erspective here. larry > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Nice people > > > You'd swear similar riots, beatings, and heinous mob acts of > vio

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2004-03-31 Thread brobborb
back i my dad's village, if someone was caught stealing, the whole village would beat the crap out of that person, kick him out haha   - Original Message -   From: Dan Phillips   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:48 PM   Subject: RE: Nice people   I'

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2004-03-31 Thread brobborb
om: Angel Stewart   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:41 PM   Subject: RE: Nice people   You'd swear similar riots, beatings, and heinous mob acts of violence   have never occurred in the history of the United States.   As far as I remember, the United States ha

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2004-03-31 Thread Dan Phillips
e how many serious crimes there are then. -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:43 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Nice people 1930s... That's too bad. If this country is dead set on wasting tax payer dol

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2004-03-31 Thread Tangorre, Michael
1930s... That's too bad. If this country is dead set on wasting tax payer dollars on capital punishment, we should at least get to vote for the cheapest method used. I like China's approach: firing squad and the family gets the bill for the bullets used: $0.07 a casing. Sure beats the millions used

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