Re: [OSM-talk] Affordable 1 CM high precision GPS.

not there isn't really anyway to tell which is the high accuracy one. Cheerio John On Sun, May 5, 2024, 14:30 Greg Troxel wrote: > John Whelan writes: > > > Search Youtube for "Andreas Spiess ESP32 precision GPS receiver > > (incl. RTK-GPS Tutorial)" I deliberate

[OSM-talk] Affordable 1 CM high precision GPS.

Search Youtube for "Andreas Spiess ESP32 precision GPS receiver (incl. RTK-GPS Tutorial)"  I deliberately haven't put a direct link in. It needs packaging and documenting but I think this sort of differential GPS could be very useful in accurate mapping. Cheerio John -- Sent from Postbox

[OSM-talk] Fwd: FW: [EXTERNAL] Re: ODbl concerns

Apols to Allen, the message was too large with the old stuff on the end and I forwarded it to the talk ca list by mistake. -- Forwarded message - From: john whelan Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 14:04 Subject: Re: FW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns To: George Boulos (DTP

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

I think there is a great deal to be said for holding SotM in different locations. The trouble is finding them. Running a successful conference like this is quite a lot of work. Locations that are used to holding conferences will have experienced teams that exist. Other locations will have to

[OSM-talk] Mapping in war zones

I'm looking for thoughts on this. Specifically Mali at the moment.  Are there any NGOs still operating or am I just defining targets for the Wagner group etc? Ideally any input from local Mali mappers would be valued together with thoughts for a more general case. Many Thanks John -- Sent

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

. Is there a danger that SotM US or SotM EU might become larger than SotM so it becomes less relevant? I might suggest that alternate years somewhere more exotic is chosen than the EU. Cheerio John Frederik Ramm wrote on 8/16/2023 3:43 PM: Hi, On 8/16/23 20:01, John Whelan wrote: If it was in the EU

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

Andrew Hain: "I would like to congratulate the organising team in Nairobi and the SotM Working Group for doing this. Giving the worldwide community a broader understanding of the challenges of mapping Africa and using maps there is positive step for OSM’s inclusiveness as a truly worldwide

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding automated trees to OSM

So to sum up these are trees that you have not personally inspected and added to the map but you are relying on a third party for the information and you can't be sure exactly where it is from nor how accurate it is? Nor do you have any idea of the license on the data. Based on my interpretation

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

shop=consignment Locally it means a shop that sells things such as high end used clothes on consignment. ie the owner of the goods only get paid when the items are sold. Cheerio John Philip Barnes wrote on 5/19/2023 12:25 PM: On Wed, 2023-05-17 at 20:48 +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

Courtney wrote on 5/3/2023 4:00 PM: Compare a statement like this:  "I know you may be relatively new here, so to help you be successful, here are some ideas for how to structure for your project" to a statement like this:  "I am disappointed to yet again see someone doing this wrong and

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

A very accurate summation in my opinion. Thank you John Imre Samu wrote on 5/3/2023 1:03 PM: Courtney > ezt írta (időpont: 2023. ápr. 30., V, 19:06): This conversation has opened up important new questions.  Why is the main "Talk" channel the

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

*I object only to the tone of some of the comments, and to assumptions that are made about our motivation, decision process re: our approach, and quality of our skills. I'm not alone in objecting to problems of tone more broadly, and so I feel comfortable insisting on a higher quality discourse

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

ar's > worth of pre-testing, to ask these questions? Is that the standard here? > Wait for perfection or do nothing? Is that how OSM itself was built? I > don't understand the tone or the defensiveness of these comments. If the > goal is to advance the OSM project, is it better to gate keep

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Just a comment on Fredrick's input. Selecting the sample is one of the most difficult parts of a survey to get right.  The self selection part of this survey makes it open to bias, as Frederick has commented this is compounded by the platform. I'm not making a comment about if the platform is

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

I suspect the National Trust of which I happen to be a member is much more centralised and top down than OpenStreetMap which tends to be more bottom up. It is a different culture and the OSM side has evolved over time. I'd ask you to be nice to us and work with us where possible. The OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

I'm lost here. We have something in the map and we can associate a website with it. Why would we need to have permission from the local mappers to do this? I note locally our bus stops have a reference that does much the same thing but I don't recall having to canvas local mappers about it. On

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Many thanks for putting some numbers on this. Warin's comment would suggest it may also be more than just buildings that are involved. For buildings the total number as a percentage is small unfortunately they tend to cluster so are more of a problem than if they were more spread out. John On

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

w kicking around that are identical > except for one vertex > > Isaac > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 7:05 PM John Whelan wrote: > >> Occasionally I come across a building that has been mapped twice. A >> number of them look as if they have been uploaded twice. >> &

[OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Occasionally I come across a building that has been mapped twice.   A number of them look as if they have been uploaded twice. Could some nice bot expert build one to run through the map and delete any ways that are an exact duplicate even as far as the tags are concerned? The problem comes

Re: [OSM-talk] [automated edit] replace some obviously mistaken surface values by their clear intended meaning

At first glance this seems a good idea but based on my experience as a HOT validator you have to be careful. Has the mapper changed their practices already? Getting fifty emails telling someone they used upper case two years ago might just put them off mapping. A better solution would be

Re: [OSM-talk] replace some obviously mistaken surface values by their clear intended meaning

Sounds wonderful. John On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 12:49 Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I propose to replace following surface tags by doing an automated edit: > > obvious typos: > > `surface=paving stones` → `surface=paving_stones` > `surface=Paving_stones` →

Re: [OSM-talk] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

I think the issue is more fit for the purpose. For critical work the OSM database cannot be relied upon. We have too many inexperienced mappers who can inadvertantly corrupt the map. There are processes to allow an area to be watched so a mapper can double check any changes in a specific area.

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

------- > *From:* john whelan > *Sent:* 19 January 2023 17:38 > *To:* Nick Whitelegg > *Cc:* OpenStreetMap talk mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and > powerlines? > > I accept powerlines are fine and visible on other maps bu

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

Power lines are there, and they are an important navigational aid when out > walking or hiking. > > And besides, just about every commercial mapping provider that I've used > shows them. The OS does, as do maps that I've seen in a range of > continental European countries. > > Nick > > > ------

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

whose boss is imprisoned in the US? Then you have those that would like to overthrow the government or do it just for kicks. Have fun Cheerio John Clifford Snow wrote on 1/18/2023 10:35 PM: On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 7:05 PM john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: A

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

Perhaps you could expand on the benefits of mapping them? Thanks John On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 10:09 PM stevea, wrote: > I'd like to say "oh, please..." because this seems a bit harsh. But I > understand that people can be sensitive. > > But this is OSM and I'd like to believe we live in a world

[OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

Apparently you can do a lot of expensive damage by firing a rifle bullet through them as happened more than once in the US and given the situation in Europe at the moment is there a risk that something similar could happen there? Should we have a process that says some things should not be

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

t detailed story has to do with my point? DaveF On 29/11/2022 16:54, John Whelan wrote: The story of the Ottawa bus stops... -- Sent from Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com> ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

The story of the Ottawa bus stops started when the City decided to announce the bus stops in an automated way to assist blind people. To do this they went round every bus stop with very accurate GPS equipment so the bus stops were measured to within a meter or so accuracy. One or two weren’t

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

I have concerns about the amount of effort we seem to be asking open data set creators to make. I think it took me seven years to get the licensing correct to be able to import the local bus stops and very early in the process the head of the transit system said 'but we want you to use our data.'

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

, maybe it's OK. >> >> > On Nov 27, 2022, at 8:26 PM, James wrote: >> > >> > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/infringement >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2022, 11:15 PM john whelan >> wrote: >> > You can only leave a rev

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

gitimate" (or preferred) is important, and > "leaving a review" is a (one) method for communicating that, I would > underscore that if you do leave a review, make very clear how one differs > from the other. > > On Nov 27, 2022, at 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: > &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

, 8:19 PM John Whelan wrote: > >> On a windows machine do a search for Microsoft store. Then search for >> JOSM. Download it then you can leave a review. The more reviews it has >> the more it looks as if it is the legitimate version. >> >> The other version which

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

shot and costs $5.99 can. Thanks John Dave F wrote on 11/27/2022 7:15 PM: Link(s)? On 30/10/2022 18:47, john whelan wrote: There are two versions of JOSM available on the Microsoft store.  One is a fork and costs money the other is the kosher version. It might be helpful if JOSM had a few

[OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

There are two versions of JOSM available on the Microsoft store. One is a fork and costs money the other is the kosher version. It might be helpful if JOSM had a few reviews to make it stand out from the other version. Thanks John ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] I need your help please

The changes have been made to the central database. The tiles or rended image are recreated later sometimes a few days later. There is an off line version of the database created roughly roughly once a day at geofrabrik.de from which you can create your own set of tiles etc. Depending how urgent

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

One problem I had when living in the UK was deciding which station to use to travel up to London. Mother who worked as a midwife had been told one station by the nurses at the hospital. Fine except it was a 20 minute drive to get there and the fairly high frequency but stopping tube would get

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM on Raspberry pi 4

Thank you for the process. Cheerio John James wrote on 2020-12-21 19:15: wget https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josm-latest.jar java -jar josm-latest.jar in a terminal On Mon., Dec. 21, 2020, 7:13 p.m. John Whelan, <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: I don't know enough abo

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

In the diverse collection of people we have in OSM you will be hard pressed not to offend someone. The views held are very diverse. Traffic_signal or traffic_light tagging us an example of very diverse views. I'm sure someone will be along and give me the correct way to tag shortly. I hadn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

No but I am suggesting dealing with it is complex and has to be done over time. Do you ban jargon for example? The danger in Celine's confrontational approach is we throw the baby out with the dish water. You have an interesting mind and know the background. How would you approach this? And

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

The issue of diversity is complex.  In Africa many of the locals whilst feeling that it would be nice to have all local mappers they recognise that the map would not be as complete without the armchair mappers. Unfortunately when you work in technical areas often you'll see a group build up

Re: [OSM-talk] time to review

I would suggest that if someone could identify a list of mapping tasks suitable for beginners that might help this sort of thing happening again. I'd done a fair amount of validation of HOT tasks in the past which I'm sure are similar and I'm more than aware of the amount of effort needed to

Re: [Talk-ca] mapping Ottawa light rail stations.

It looks like the entrances railway=subway_entrance  have been mapped but the optional name tag hasn't been added in all cases.  Without the name OSMAND struggles to find them.  Parliament subway entrance for example is searchable. If someone is passing (Danny?) could they add the names to

Re: [Talk-ca] mapping Ottawa light rail stations.

, but it's been flagged as a "nice to have" On Tue., Nov. 24, 2020, 7:22 p.m. John Whelan, <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: Today I wanted to use OSMAND+ to work out the by foot from Lyon station to 60 Cambridge street.  There are two entrances / exits t

[Talk-ca] mapping Ottawa light rail stations.

Today I wanted to use OSMAND+ to work out the by foot from Lyon station to 60 Cambridge street.  There are two entrances / exits to the station and I wanted to leave by a particular exit.  The most westerly one. The route suggested by OSMAND+ was at first glance bizarre but looking more

Re: [Talk-ca] How is protect_class used in Canada?

>I am guessing that some or all of the categories on that list under class 7 can simply be deleted. Have you attempted to contact the original mappers? We have a few mappers in Canada who have been mapping for more than ten years. John On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 23:28 Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] York Region Building Import

_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings > > > > > > *From:* John Whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2020 09:25 > *To:* Daniel @jfd553 > *Cc:* Andrew Deng; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] York Region Building Import > > > > A

Re: [Talk-ca] York Region Building Import

buildings and related features. Best regards [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada_-_The_Open_Database_of_Buildings *From:*john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2020 22:55 *To:* Andrew Deng *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] York

Re: [Talk-ca] York Region Building Import

There are two sources of buildings to import one is Bing the other is the stat Canada licensed one. Both have the correct license for OSM. If you are going after the stat can one then there was an import plan drawn up for Canada and that is in the wiki. I suggest if you use the stat can import

Re: [OSM-talk] Can you recommend good introduction to JOSM for 100% osm newbie?

I think we underestimate new mappers. JOSM takes a little more time to set up true enough but once set up new mappers can be quite productive. I think it is best if you limit them to adding one or two features at a time but for adding buildings nothing beats it with the buildings_tool plugin.

Re: [OSM-talk] A Call to Correct Narratives about Geospatial Work in the Philippines

I have noticed that HOT does tend to promote the idea that HOT mapping is bringing maps to areas that haven't been mapped before. The emphasis is on enthusiasm and tapping into the mappers before they move on to something else. This approach does get a fair bit of mapping done and the quality

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

I honestly can't see any benefit. Splitting the data into two places adds the danger of it getting out of sync. Standard naming conventions would be nice but defining the standard name is practically impossible. Compare taginfo to the map features wiki page. One problem with map features is

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

If Air is proprietary and an Adobe product I strongly suggest avoiding it purely from a security point of view. Adobe does not have a good reputation in the security world. Comments certainly have been made about Flash. I don't think we should be encouraging the installation of software that

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Working on old code is always difficult. IBM got to the point of removing a bug to their mainframe operating system on average introduced a new bug. Then you get into the testing side of things. The flash side of potlatch is one that given the number of editors using it and alternatives

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

not fit. Thanks John On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 05:19 Hartmut Holzgraefe mailto:hart...@php.net>> wrote: On 24.07.20 23:55, john whelan wrote: > Microsoft SQL Server Express is a free limited version of SQL server > that may well do for many users.

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

And as we start to fill the database with buildings even those might not fit. Thanks John On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 05:19 Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > On 24.07.20 23:55, john whelan wrote: > > Microsoft SQL Server Express is a free limited version of SQL server > > that may well do

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

Thank you Hartmut, my expertise is not in GIS databases so this is helpful to know.  My experience is much more to do with straight SQL databases doing none GIS work on a variety of platforms. Cheerio John Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote on 2020-07-24 18:49: On 25.07.20 00:16, Alexandre Oliveira

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

lso part of the discussion. And that's > important. > Yves > > Le 24 juillet 2020 20:50:22 GMT+02:00, john whelan > a écrit : >> >> If the database was smaller and less infrastructure was reliant on it >> working I would agree with you that philosophically open sou

Re: [OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

Yves > > Le 24 juillet 2020 20:11:46 GMT+02:00, john whelan > a écrit : >> >> All this talk about databases and servers and sysadmins makes me wonder >> if we should reconsider our choice of operating systems and databases. >> >> At one time in the past

[OSM-talk] Heresy - pure discussion

All this talk about databases and servers and sysadmins makes me wonder if we should reconsider our choice of operating systems and databases. At one time in the past I ran a Database support group that covered Sybase, Oracle, Microsoft SQL server, ingres and half a dozen other database systems.

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal to tag Yonge Street in Toronto and York Region as Primary

What Jarek says makes sense to me. I suspect many of the map users don't live where the use the map. Having said that could we come up with something that could be applied across Canada or is that too much to ask for? Thanks John On Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 22:39 Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Thu,

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

I've seen a lot of poor mapping get replicated in this way by newcomers copying the tags. Cheerio John Mike Thompson wrote on 2020-06-22 8:25 PM: On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:12 PM Mateusz Konieczny via talk mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Jun 23, 2020, 00:07 by

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

> In case of noticing low quality paid mapping - please, at least leave a changeset comment. I think this is a sensible approach that I'll use in future rather than leave an email. On the comments about the classification we are talking specifically about Africa where it is much more

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

Joseph Eisenberg > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:17 AM John Whelan > wrote: > >> I've noticed a number of highways being changed in Africa from >> unclassified to track and from unclassified to tertiary.The ones I've >> noticed are Apple mappers usually with t

[OSM-talk] Paid mapping

I've noticed a number of highways being changed in Africa from unclassified to track and from unclassified to tertiary.    The ones I've noticed are Apple mappers usually with the comment of from Bing and often the highways connect settlements so should be a minimum of unclassified or path but

Re: [Talk-ca] WikiProject Canada Post - franchise assessment

I think you can use it to see where to look. If there is only one building and you can see a Canada Post logo floating around I think it is fair game. Canada Post is part of federal government so there is some sort of commitment to Open Data floating around under the Federal government's open

[Talk-ca] Missing maps in Canada from weeklyosm

Which sort of ties into the building import side of things as there was mention at the start of the project that for many remote communities the building data would be valuable. https://www.missingmaps.org/blog/2020/03/31/a-year-of-blogs/ To me I think missing maps implies mapathons and

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

One of the nice things about the disabled community is we get a fair amount of data either from them or by people supporting them. As Clifford mentioned this sort of thing is useful to them and as I grow older this sort of information is unfortunately getting more useful to myself. Universities

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

Since it is dependent on municipal bylaws then I think it should be explicitly tagged. Cheerio John Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais wrote on 2020-04-03 2:05 PM: The reason why we were asked to add them is for pedestrian security assessment and urban planning. When all sidewalks and crossing are

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

I'd recommend bicycle=no and I live in Ottawa.  In Ottawa footpaths that connect in general are bicycle=yes as they come under municipal regulation but a sidewalk on a highway comes under provincial legislation which bans bicycles on sidewalks.  Sparks street is fun I think you are not

Re: [Talk-ca] Canada Post offices

It might be worthwhile highlighting those that do not have a postcode or are tagged name=Canada Post. Useful locally as I hadn't checked the ones I know of had been mapped nor that their details were correct. I did note one address was wrong, the post office had moved from one side of the street

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

But then you're often talking about a HOT mapper who might not have done any mapping for three years. I must confess when validating HOT projects if I saw a mapper had done something glaringly wrong and it was more than a week before noting the response rate to a changeset message was less

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

I'm looking in Mali, looking at the history of a sample I'd say they were HOT mapped and many are more than four years old. Cheerio John On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 12/03/2020 13:09, john whelan wrote: > > I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with t

[OSM-talk] fixme=name

I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tagged on them and I'm not sure what the logic is. I would have thought it is fairly simple to search for place=village without a name tag or am I missing something? Thanks John ___ talk mailing

[OSM-talk] Please be gentle with newbies

These days I'm retired and use my old age pensioner bus pass to grab a free coffee. Often there are strings attached like a group of politicans or journalists etc. floating around. Today I got cornered by one who had been on the receiving end of a communication from a mapper saying they had made

Re: [Talk-ca] James work on Task Manager

From memory you're based in Cobourg and Port Hope in Ontario.   Squamish is in BC so may not be local to you. The Ottawa cycle club did some mapping in OSM https://github.com/BikeOttawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide you may find this useful. Task manager is better suited to imports and to

Re: [Talk-ca] James work on Task Manager

Are you simply asking for a task to be set up or something else? James currently is looking at the data to import then resizing the squares to better fit the task. I don't think there are any plans to import buildings in your local area. I seem to recall mapping a thousand or so manually in

Re: [OSM-talk] Testing torrents for the planet dump

My concern would be more the volume of data we have whirling round. Smaller torrents of each country might be more useful and I'd have to get my head around picking up the new one each week.  I'm running qBittorrent if that is of any use. Cheerio John Christian Quest wrote on 2020-02-09

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

We should start somewhere so yes it would be fun. Thanks John On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 3:15 PM Daniel @jfd553, wrote: > Bonjour groupe, > > The pre-processing procedure has been tested for the Squamish (BC) area. > Squamish has a small number of buildings (6K) with a good Esri World > imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Teaching cyclists how to contribute to OSM

Locally in Ottawa many paths are multiuse there is a path many kilometers long along the Ottawa river that has a line marked down the center and is very much used by cyclists but according to NCC who own the path it is multi-use not bicycles only so is mapped highway=path. Most City of Ottawa

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

> Nate Wessel, PhD > Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd > NateWessel.com <https://www.natewessel.com> > On 2020-01-18 7:37 p.m., john whelan wrote: > > > But also - sorry this is such a long email - we certainly should not be > manually doing re-conflation where b

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

> But also - sorry this is such a long email - we certainly should not be manually doing re-conflation where buildings are very dense (e.g. downtown Toronto) or where they have already been imported extensively (much of the rest of the GTA). The import plan I'm working on for Toronto will take

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

, ni regardé le connu des > fichiers de données Microsoft pour ces zones, mais la tâche ci-dessous > montre un processus de validation où il était demandé d'orthogonaliser les > bâtiments. > https://tasks.openstreetmap.us/project/164#bottom > > Pierre > > > Le vendredi 17

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

objects. > Pretty interesting project, but different from OSM. > > Cheers, > Tim > > On 2020-01-17 10:40, john whelan wrote: > >first, to add missing buildings (if it were > just for this purpose we could also use the much bigger Microsoft > dataset) > > I can'

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

>first, to add missing buildings (if it were just for this purpose we could also use the much bigger Microsoft dataset) I can't resist. Does this infer that for parts of the country without Stat Can data we are happy to import Microsoft dataset buildings as is? Or would we wish to wait until we

Re: [Talk-ca] Building tags in Canada

is often difficult to determine. but probably it needs a sort of low hanging fruit section of what should be easy to tag. Thanks John On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 17:49, stevea wrote: > On Jan 16, 2020, at 2:37 PM, John Whelan wrote: > > Is there somewhere that offers guidelines on how to add a

[Talk-ca] Building tags in Canada

Part of the building import was the idea that once an outline was in place it could be tagged with more detail by someone with local knowledge. Sometimes some of this this information might be available from Mapillary. For example building=house rather than building=yes In Coburg there are a

Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Re: Importing buildings in Canada

My understanding is that is when we imported Ottawa we followed the normal process as detailed by Daniel and that seemed to work quite nicely. Cheerio John On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 2:57 PM Daniel @jfd553, wrote: > Hello Nate, > > I understand that you don’t like to see an import process that both

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

I'll cross my fingers and hope it all comes together. Thanks John Tim Elrick wrote on 2020-01-15 5:18 PM: Hi all, I understand your concerns, John. However, many mappers might not follow talk-ca. So, I guess, Daniel's suggestion to contact them, might work better than waiting for them to

Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Re: Importing buildings in Canada

One concern I have at present is the lack of comments from what I would call more average mappers in smaller population areas. The conversation seems to be limited to two or three players. I'm not sure if this is because we lost momentum earlier or people now feel they have to have made more

Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Re: Importing buildings in Canada

I think we should have a list of ways to find local mappers. Ideally we start with Pascal Neis’ tool but then allow ourselves to reduce the bar to consider others perhaps with 9 changesets or less after two weeks after approaching the ideal mapper /mappers first. Do we have a target

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

tup. I > don't think we're close to setting up actual import tasks yet, though we do > seem to be on the road toward getting things sorted out :-) > > Nate Wessel, PhD > Planner, Cartographer, Transport Nerd > NateWessel.com <https://www.natewessel.com> > On 2020-01-05 12:20

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

I'm getting lost as to who is organising what and who is taking responsibility for defining and setting up the tasks and where they are being set up. Are your two examples of what can be done? Or are they to be used by mappers to add buildings? My understanding was Daniel would identify those

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

Daniel addressed this if you reread his email and proposal. Basically we look for local mappers first. If we don't find any we increase the distance for local. At the moment we are discussing the stats can sourced data. My feeling is let's get this import moving once more and to do that let's

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

at another time? -) > > > > Thanks > > Daniel > > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, January 03, 2020 15:57 > *To:* Daniel @jfd553 > *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada > > > > So

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

Sounds sane to me. Are we thinking of setting up a second import to handle Microsoft building outlines on a similar basis? Or extending this one? I only ask since if we are doing it municipality by municipality it might be an idea to identify those municipalities that do not have suitable open

Re: [OSM-talk] is OSM a fake map.

I'm fairly lucky in that in the last three years nothing much has changed locally. The highways have stayed much the same. Most buildings are still there. If you use Bing to add things then realistically it fills in gaps in the map. If you delete things because they are not in Bing that is a

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

on how you see the mass importation of > buildings. > > Happy holidays! > > Adam > > On Tue., Dec. 24, 2019, 7:36 p.m. Daniel @jfd553, > wrote: > >> Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will be >> more easy and focused >> &

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

-12-24 6:04 PM: Have a look at the wiki page I referred to. Further discussions will be more easy and focused Sent from Galaxy S7 *From:* John Whelan *Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:50:29 PM *To:* James *Cc:* Daniel

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

I think the first problem to be addressed is the presence or absence of a local community. In the north we have few mappers but lots of interested agencies and people in seeing the buildings imported. Montreal I think is under control.  Toronto is in the process of sorting itself out but

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