RE: [LegacyUG] Any Legacy users in Whittier, CA area?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dawn,

We need someone to staff our Legacy booth at a one-day conference there.

Geoff

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dawn Crowley
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:16 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Any Legacy users in Whittier, CA area?

What kind of help are you seeking?

Dawn Crowley

Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
> If you live near (1-2 hr drive) Whittier, California, and would be
> interested in helping us at a seminar there next February, please contact
me
> directly at ge...@legacyfamilytree.com. There's so many conferences that
> weekend, that we just can't get to them all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com





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[LegacyUG] Any Legacy users in Whittier, CA area?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

If you live near (1-2 hr drive) Whittier, California, and would be
interested in helping us at a seminar there next February, please contact me
directly at ge...@legacyfamilytree.com. There's so many conferences that
weekend, that we just can't get to them all.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com







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[LegacyUG] Any Legacy users in Toledo, Ohio area?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

We need an experienced, enthusiastic Legacy user in the Toledo, Ohio area to
make a presentation on Legacy in April 2010 in Toledo, and potentially "man"
a booth at a seminar there. If you are interested, please contact me
personally at ge...@legacyfamilytree.com.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff, please

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Jenny,

There are just a few templates where the Comments field appears within the
Source Info tab. We include it there because Elizabeth Mills suggested that
an explanation/evaluation of the source be included with the citation. You
are correct that whatever comments are entered in this field on the Source
Info tab of the Master Source are automatically included in the Comments
section of the Text/Comments tab. However, it does appear that the "Include
on reports" checkmark does not remove the comments from the citation.

I'll talk with Dave about this for a resolution. Thanks for your research
into this.

Geoff Rasmussen

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source (SW) Comment problem - Attn Legacy staff,
please

Jenny M Benson wrote
>I have a Comment on a Master Source which is *not* checked for 
>inclusion in Reports, but it is being included, and it is included on 
>every Citation using that Master Source.

Further information about this.  I now see why this is occurring.  On 
some SW templates (I have now seen it on Artifacts>Privately held and 
Family Group Sheet>Privately held) there is a field named "Comments" on 
the Source Info screen, the "main" screen for inputting Master Source 
data.  Any text which is entered into the usual "Comments about this 
master source" field are automatically copied into the "Comments" field. 
Obviously the "Comments" field is not picking up on the contents of the 
checkbox for "Include on Reports" which appears under the "Comments 
about this master source".  (Nor the First time/Each time radio 
buttons.)

I wonder if a Legacy staffer could comment on whether or not this is 
intentional.  I hope it is *not* because I usually use the "Comments 
about this master source" for information which I do not wish to have 
appear on Reports and where the entry is quite long I certainly don't 
want it appearing every time the Master Source is cited.  I can conceive 
of occasions when one would want to add a "Comment" to be part of the 
printed Master Source *and* "Comments about this master source" which 
were not for publication.

For the moment I am working around the problem by including my long 
not-for-publishing comments in the "Copy of the text from this master 
source" field over which I have some control!


-- 
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] US County Verifier

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Michele,

I think what's happened is that because what used to be there was actually a
"report", the U.S. County Verifier report has actually moved to the
Books/Other tab of the Reports.

Geoff

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:04 AM
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] US County Verifier

I haven't used the US County Verifier in quite a while but I went to use it 
today and it is different!  Am I going crazy?  I used to be able to hit the 
US County Verifier under Tools and it would do a search through my database 
and find any bad county names or counties that weren't formed yet.  However,

when I hit it now I just get a spreadsheet looking table of all of the 
counties with their formation dates.  Can we not do a search though the file

anymore to look for errors?

michele





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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a CBS5 Obituary (SourceWriter)

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Jenny,

It looks like this site's obituaries are in the form of a database. I
recommend using the Internet > Database template.

Geoff Rasmussen

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 7:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing a CBS5 Obituary (SourceWriter)

I am generally fairly good at finding my way around the SW templates and 
very frequently use the bog standard Internet one, but thought I'd just 
seek LUGgers' opinions on this one.

I have just found a reference to someone in my family file in an 
Obituary on the website at http://cbs5.tributes.com.   He's not a 
terribly important person on my tree, but I would like to Source my note 
that he emigrated to the USA.

Has anyone else used an Obituary from this site as a Source?  If so, can 
you give details of which template you used and what you entered where, 
please.
-- 
Jenny M Benson





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RE: [LegacyUG] Spam from 'Legacy'

[Geoff Rasmussen]

FeedBlitz (www.feedblitz.com) does manage our LegacyNews mailing list. We've
developed a great relationship with them over the past couple of years and
have a great respect for their company. Others, such as Dick Eastman's
eogn.com and DearMyrtle also use FeedBlitz.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Phil Hawkins
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Spam from 'Legacy'

I received an email today from FeedBitz alleging they are handling Legacy
news distribution.
They are known spammers and the moment you reply, unsubscribe, complain or
'confirm' your email address they have you for life.
 I sent a message to Legacy about it and am sending this to all on the group
in the hope that none of you will fall for it regards

Phil Hawkins
Perth, Western Australia




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RE: [LegacyUG] Using "Find"

[Geoff Rasmussen]

A recent LegacyNews article provides step-by-step instructions both in video
format and in written format. See
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2009/06/legacy-video-tip-working-w
ith-locations.html.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Kris
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using "Find"

I'm trying to create a search list of people who were born, died, 
buried, married or have an event that took place in a certain county. 
  Basically, I'm trying to come up with a list of people who had 
anything happen in that county.

Seems like this would be simple, but I can't seem to pull it off in 
just one step.  Under the "Detailed Search" I found an option for "Any 
Date" but I can't find a similar option for "Any Place." 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Judy,

The instructions for "color-izing" just a portion of the pedigree are found
in the LegacyNews article entitled "Pedigree Chart - Using Color for
Emphasis" at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/07/pedigree_chart_.html. Hope
that helps.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Judy Wardlaw
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar

Hi Geoff
I downloaded the seminar handout papers for the seminars. You show a 
pedigree chart for Hugh Earl Dayton in which you show coloured boxes for the

pedigree up one line only. I can only partially replicate this as all my 
male boxes are coloured on all ancestor lines. How did you manage to 
selectively colour the boxes in  your Chart to one line?
The videos are great.Thanks.
Judy





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[LegacyUG] Legacy seminar

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Thanks again to everyone who helped test the Legacy seminar videos. The new
seminar page is now at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/seminars.asp with
three versions of each video. I also just published the LegacyNews article
about it at http://tinyurl.com/lxh7on.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Seminar Video Testing - Trouble

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Good to know. Yes, I will.

 

Geoff

 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Seminar Video Testing - Trouble

 

Geoff:

 

Both links started right up for me.  Will you make the other video
available using one of these methods?

 

Howland Davis

 

In a message dated 6/4/2009 4:35:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
geo...@legacyfamilytree.com writes:

For those having trouble, will you please try watching the Legacy Overview
from these two links and report your results to me at
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com?

http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview3/overview3.html
(requires Adobe Flash player)

http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview2/overview2.html
(requires Windows Media Player)

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen



From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Seminar Video Testing - Trouble

Geoff:
 
Still having problems unfortunately.  Have installed Adobe twice and
Javascript was enabled.  I turned the computer off then and restarted.  But
nothing.  Does it take time to upload or should the video start in a minute
or two?
 
Howland Davis
=== 
In a message dated 6/4/2009 9:54:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
geo...@legacyfamilytree.com writes:
Howland,

You should have the latest updated of Adobe Flash Player (10.0.22.87) which
can be downloaded from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. Also, Javascript
must be enabled in your Internet browser. Please check these two things and
let me know if you still experience problems.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Seminar Video Testing - Trouble

[Geoff Rasmussen]

For those having trouble, will you please try watching the Legacy Overview
from these two links and report your results to me at
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com?

http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview3/overview3.html
(requires Adobe Flash player)

http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview2/overview2.html
(requires Windows Media Player)

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen



From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Seminar Video Testing - Trouble

Geoff:
 
Still having problems unfortunately.  Have installed Adobe twice and
Javascript was enabled.  I turned the computer off then and restarted.  But
nothing.  Does it take time to upload or should the video start in a minute
or two?
 
Howland Davis
=== 
In a message dated 6/4/2009 9:54:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
geo...@legacyfamilytree.com writes:
Howland,

You should have the latest updated of Adobe Flash Player (10.0.22.87) which
can be downloaded from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. Also, Javascript
must be enabled in your Internet browser. Please check these two things and
let me know if you still experience problems.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen




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RE: [LegacyUG] Need your help - Legacy seminar video testing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Oh, I see what you're saying now. The link should now work.

Geoff

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of GeoSci
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:35 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Need your help - Legacy seminar video testing

The link to the "how to make bookmarks" in the tips handouts does not
open a page??  Ideas?? That looks link a neat project!
Thanks
Keith

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
 wrote:
> Hello Legacy User Group-ers,
>
> Two weeks ago in Hemet, California I presented a Genealogy Technology
> seminar to a great group. I tried something new there, and recorded my
> presentations. Two of the presentations were on Legacy.
>
> If you don't have anything else to do this weekend :) and you want to view
> these two presentations online, I'd invite you to do so. I'm looking for
> your feedback in the area of technical problems that you might experience
> with these videos. If you find anything, please email me directly at
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com. I want to be sure that we haven't overlooked
> anything before we turn these videos on for the rest of the world. Thanks!
>
> Legacy Family Tree: an Overview (54 minutes) -
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview/overview.html. This
> one is similar to our existing Legacy for Beginners video but its
> presentation style is much different as it was given before a live
> audience...
>
> Legacy Family Tree: Tips & Tricks (58 minutes) -
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/tips/tips.html.
>
> Again, if you have any comments/suggestions, please email me directly at
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com






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RE: [LegacyUG] Need your help - Legacy seminar video testing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

The link is
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/11/how-to-create-a-family-tre
e-bookmark.html, which does work. Although I should probably create an
actual link in the PDF.

Geoff
 
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of GeoSci
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:35 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Need your help - Legacy seminar video testing

The link to the "how to make bookmarks" in the tips handouts does not
open a page??  Ideas?? That looks link a neat project!
Thanks
Keith

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
 wrote:
> Hello Legacy User Group-ers,
>
> Two weeks ago in Hemet, California I presented a Genealogy Technology
> seminar to a great group. I tried something new there, and recorded my
> presentations. Two of the presentations were on Legacy.
>
> If you don't have anything else to do this weekend :) and you want to view
> these two presentations online, I'd invite you to do so. I'm looking for
> your feedback in the area of technical problems that you might experience
> with these videos. If you find anything, please email me directly at
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com. I want to be sure that we haven't overlooked
> anything before we turn these videos on for the rest of the world. Thanks!
>
> Legacy Family Tree: an Overview (54 minutes) -
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview/overview.html. This
> one is similar to our existing Legacy for Beginners video but its
> presentation style is much different as it was given before a live
> audience...
>
> Legacy Family Tree: Tips & Tricks (58 minutes) -
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/tips/tips.html.
>
> Again, if you have any comments/suggestions, please email me directly at
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar video testing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Howland,

You should have the latest updated of Adobe Flash Player (10.0.22.87) which
can be downloaded from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. Also, Javascript
must be enabled in your Internet browser. Please check these two things and
let me know if you still experience problems.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
===

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Of howlanddavi...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:59 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar video testing

Geoff:
 
I am still unable to start either video.  Any suggestions?
 
Howland Davis 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar video testing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Gary,

I'm hoping they'll stay at those links for good.

Geoff

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Gary Templeman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar video testing

How long will they stay available at those links, and if they will be taken 
down at some point, is there a way to download so we can refer to them at 
our leisure?

Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Rasmussen" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:26 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar video testing


> Thanks to everyone who tested and sent feedback about the seminar videos.
> I've made some changes which will hopefully address the viewing issues a 
> few
> of you were having. The updated videos are still online at the links 
> below.
>
> Legacy Family Tree: an Overview (54 minutes) -
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview/overview.html
>
> Legacy Family Tree: Tips & Tricks (58 minutes) -
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/tips/tips.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen





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[LegacyUG] Legacy seminar video testing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Thanks to everyone who tested and sent feedback about the seminar videos.
I've made some changes which will hopefully address the viewing issues a few
of you were having. The updated videos are still online at the links below.

Legacy Family Tree: an Overview (54 minutes) -
http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview/overview.html

Legacy Family Tree: Tips & Tricks (58 minutes) -
http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/tips/tips.html

Thanks,

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[LegacyUG] Need your help - Legacy seminar video testing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Hello Legacy User Group-ers,

Two weeks ago in Hemet, California I presented a Genealogy Technology
seminar to a great group. I tried something new there, and recorded my
presentations. Two of the presentations were on Legacy.

If you don't have anything else to do this weekend :) and you want to view
these two presentations online, I'd invite you to do so. I'm looking for
your feedback in the area of technical problems that you might experience
with these videos. If you find anything, please email me directly at
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com. I want to be sure that we haven't overlooked
anything before we turn these videos on for the rest of the world. Thanks!

Legacy Family Tree: an Overview (54 minutes) -
http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/overview/overview.html. This
one is similar to our existing Legacy for Beginners video but its
presentation style is much different as it was given before a live
audience...

Legacy Family Tree: Tips & Tricks (58 minutes) -
http://www.millenniacorp.com/_videos/seminars/tips/tips.html.

Again, if you have any comments/suggestions, please email me directly at
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 U.S. Marriage Index template?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Vicki,

We added specific SourceWriter templates for those England/Wales records
because the indexes are at the national level. In the states, there is no
similar national index, every state does it differently.

Using Legacy's SourceWriter, the Internet > Database template works well for
all online databases.

Hope this helps,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of v pedersen
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:49 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 U.S. Marriage Index template?

Hello,

I have been handling the numerous State indexes (marriage, birth, death,
etc.) that have been slowly making their appearance online by treating them
as "generic websites".  

I see that there are SourceWriter templates for such indexes if they are in
England or Wales, but cannot find templates for birth, marriage, or death if
they are from U.S. federal or State indexes.  

I am wondering if the templates for U.S. indexes are somewhere in the
SourceWriter templates and I am just not seeing them, or are they not there?

If they are not there, how do other Legacy users handle these?

Vicki




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a Name Found in Obituary

[Geoff Rasmussen]

I agree that the source is the newspaper, so you would use the Newspaper
SourceWriter template.

To answer the question below, we actually wrote about this in a LegacyNews
article. Read it at http://tinyurl.com/q8vjkg.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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==

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Pam O'Dell
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:13 PM
To: Legacy
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a Name Found in Obituary

Matt,
 
What if you only have a newpaper clipping with no dates or name of paper?




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[LegacyUG] Legacy tip: combining multiple files into one

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Today's Legacy tip on our blog is entitled "How to combine multiple family
files into one". Read it via:

- the Legacy News section of the Legacy Home tab from within Legacy 6/7
- your RSS feed to Legacy News
- directly at http://tinyurl.com/r76un3

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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RE: [LegacyUG] When to fill in the Repository?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Hey Brian,

I'm off to the airport but will quickly comment. First, is it possible that
you are reviewing the older videos? If I'm mentioning that the title should
be italicized, it seems like you are because v7's SourceWriter takes care of
that for you.

When a repository is required for the citation, per Evidence Explained, it
will be one of the listed fields. If not, it won't be there but the
repository tab is still available.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:33 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] When to fill in the Repository?

Hi,
I'm using the newest Legacy 7 version.

When adding a master source using Source Writer there is a tab for
"Repository" where one can fill in where the source is located.  The
video "Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources" section "2) Add a New Source"
has Geoff Rasmussen using the example of adding a new source which is a
book.  He mentions that since a book is published the title should be in
italics.  He then shows the Repository tab which listed the Family
History Library in Utah.

Also, in the Legacy video "Researching w/Legacy: Events & Chronologies",
section "2 - Census Records" has Geoff entering a sample census record
that he found at Ancestry.  After entering the source information, Geoff
says to "be sure to fill in the repository".

So, for the most part I've been filling in the address of the Repository
when I know it.  

However, I've been looking at Elizabeth Shown Mills' book "Evidence
Explained" she seems to indicate only non-published material has the
repository cited.  
"2.19 Citing Repositories
When citing manuscripts that exist in only one place, the identity of
that repository is an essential part of our citation. When citing books,
film, and other published materials that are widely available, the name
of the repository at which we used the source is not included in our
formal citation."

"2.33 Core Elements to Cite
...Within this architecture, a website is not a repository.
Conceptually, the repository is the Internet or the World Wide Web. The
distinction matters. When a citation template within our data-management
software asks us to identify a repository, we invoke a basic rule
covered at 2.19: in published citations, repositories are cited only for
manuscript material exclusive to the repository where we used it.
Repositories are not cited for published sources. To enter a website's
name as our repository would be to say that the website's name I not an
essential part of the citation. Therefore, the software might
automatically omit it in printing out reference notes."

So, two questions:
1.  Using Legacy, should one always fill in the Repository when known or
only when it is for unpublished material?
2.  Does the Legacy software automatically figure out if the Repository
should be included in the citation and only put it in when appropriate?

Thanks,
Brian


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RE: [LegacyUG] Dataset size

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Here's some ideas from an article we published a while back:

http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/03/your_legacy_dat.html

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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Of John Archer
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 1:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Dataset size

Should I put all my family history into one dataset regardless of how large
it might be?




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RE: [LegacyUG] Disproven Birth?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

It's an honor to be back on this list. I've been unsubscribed for several
months for various reasons. I'm getting caught up again and hope to be able
to participate more

Geoff

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Disproven Birth?

Hi Geoff,
It is an honor to "meet" you after watching so many of your videos!
Thanks for the information and correcting my misunderstanding.

I like the idea of marking it as private -- I've not done that before.

Thanks,
Brian

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Rasmussen
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Disproven Birth?

Hi Brian,

I actually change the "Alt Birth" event to "Disproven Birth". I don't
add a
new one. Then in that event's notes, I explain why I'm disproving it.

For me, it's important to keep the Disproven Birth event in case I need
it
for research comparisons in the future. I also keep it in case other
researchers claim their birth information is correct. If I retain the
Disproven Birth information in my event/fact list, I can easily respond
to
them.

Finally, I will often mark the Disproven Birth event as private, so in
my
polished reports, this event doesn't "get in the way".

Geoff

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Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Disproven Birth?

Hi,
In the Legacy Training video "Researching with Legacy: Events and
Chronologies" Geoff Rasmussen gives an example of a person having
conflicting birth information.  So, he creates an event titled "Alt
Birth".  This I understand and can do.  However he goes on to say that
afterwards if one resolves the conflict that one should enter a new
event called "Disproven birth".  I cannot find this in the Events list.

How do others handle it when a conflict, such as a birth year, is
resolved?  Should I create a custom event called "Disproven birth"?

Thanks,
Brian 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Master Source for Social Security Application

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Select original. It will give you the format you need.

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Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source for Social Security Application

Hi,
I received a photocopy of my great grandmother's application for a
Social Security Number.
I was going to enter it in the Master Source and selected "Social
Security records" from the Master Source list.  However Legacy then has
"Select the Medium" and the only two options are: 1) "Online, database"
and 2) "Original".

Since this isn't either but rather a photocopy of the original, I'm not
exactly sure which to select.

What do you recommend?

Thanks,
Brian




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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture of census record?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Brian,

Here's my thoughts

I transcribe the information both as part of the source detail text and as
part of the event notes because I don't know in the future what I'm going to
do. Say in the future I want to share a GEDCOM file with someone else, but
don't want to include the events/facts. Because the detail text has the
transcription, they too will receive this transcription if that particular
citation is also attached to vital events (birth, marriage, etc.).

I do add the picture to both places for the same reasons. Maybe I didn't
mention that in the video? I don't know, I'd have to go back and check.

Geoff

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Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture of census record?

Hi,
In the Legacy Training video "Researching with Legacy: Events and
Chronologies" Geoff Rasmussen gives an example of entering a census
record.  1st he shows creating the Master Source; then the Detail
Source.  In the Detail Source the video shows him putting a
transcription of the record in the "Text/Comments" tab.  However, he
doesn't put a picture or image of the census record in the "Multimedia"
tab before he tells us to enter "Save".  He goes on to show how to enter
the "Event" as "Census" and once again has the record transcribed, but
this time in the "Notes" tab under the actual event.  He then points to
the picture icon and says we may want to save a picture of the census
there.

Questions:
1.  Why transcribe the record two times (once under the Source Detail
and a 2nd time under the Notes)?  Is there a reason for this redundancy?
2.  Why put the picture of the census under the Event "Census" rather
than in the Source Detail?  Or, should one do both?  

Thanks,
Brian





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RE: [LegacyUG] Disproven Birth?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Hi Brian,

I actually change the "Alt Birth" event to "Disproven Birth". I don't add a
new one. Then in that event's notes, I explain why I'm disproving it.

For me, it's important to keep the Disproven Birth event in case I need it
for research comparisons in the future. I also keep it in case other
researchers claim their birth information is correct. If I retain the
Disproven Birth information in my event/fact list, I can easily respond to
them.

Finally, I will often mark the Disproven Birth event as private, so in my
polished reports, this event doesn't "get in the way".

Geoff

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Beddor
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Disproven Birth?

Hi,
In the Legacy Training video "Researching with Legacy: Events and
Chronologies" Geoff Rasmussen gives an example of a person having
conflicting birth information.  So, he creates an event titled "Alt
Birth".  This I understand and can do.  However he goes on to say that
afterwards if one resolves the conflict that one should enter a new
event called "Disproven birth".  I cannot find this in the Events list.

How do others handle it when a conflict, such as a birth year, is
resolved?  Should I create a custom event called "Disproven birth"?

Thanks,
Brian 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source detail craziness

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Just an updatein our internal testing, it looks like Dave has resolved
most of the SourceWriter and reporting issues. We'll be doing a test build
this week for testers to flush anything else out. We've been working long
hours these past few weeks to resolve the issues, and thank you for your
patience.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirsten
Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source detail craziness

Kate:

Welcome to the Legacy7 Sourcing Nightmare.  If you'll check the List
archives for June, July, August, and September, you'll see just a few posts
about source-related bugs.
There's no solution, although Geoff has promised a fix "Soon" (a month ago).
If you have a client waiting for a report, I'd suggest you quickly backtrack
to Legacy6 and stay there until the next update is issued and given a long
vigorous test by users.  It's been impossible to produce any type of usable
Legacy7 report containing sources for over 4 months although I believe some
have been successful in printing reports direct from Legacy as long as they
haven't included certain SourceWriter templates.  Of course, producing a
hardcopy is probably not an option in your situation.

Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news, so I won't compound things by
mentioning the list posting rules.

Kirsten





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RE: [LegacyUG] census

[Geoff Rasmussen]

It does look like Minnesota is the only state where some of the counties are
in T132. See
http://archives.gov/publications/microfilm-catalogs/census/1790-1890/part-05
.html#t132. For now, use the override link to change the series. I'll make a
note of this for future consideration.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randolph
Clark
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:45 AM
To: legacyusergroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] census

When selecting the 1870 federal census the series is pre-entered as M593.
Isn't Minnesota on T132?




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[LegacyUG] Legacy Tip: Marking Your Direct Line

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Today's Legacy tip is entitled "Marking Your Direct Line". It is
demonstrated in an excerpt from the "12 Step Checklist to Using Legacy"
video. To watch the video, visit our blog at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/10/legacy-tip-mark.html.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion tool - I can't find it

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Tom,

When compared to getting the current issues resolved, the conversion tool is
not at the top of the list. Once these issues are resolved, the conversion
tool will take priority I'm sure.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herson
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:20 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion tool - I can't find it

Geoff,

You can't help but be aware that the Source Conversion Tool was a primary 
reason many people "switched" to Legacy. I hope that every effort is being 
made to get this tool done and made available to owners of Legacy Family 
Tree in the very near future. If it looks like the tool is something that is

never going to happen or is on the bottom of the list for implementation, 
I'm sure people would appreciate knowing that.

Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion tool - I can't find it


> Jeff,
>
> The 4th paragraph of the article at
> http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/legacy-family-t.html 
> gives
> the official word on this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jpadell
> Comcast
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:20 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion tool - I can't find it
>
> I have the book for version 7 to use the conversion tool for sources it 
> says
>
> to go Options and choose Source Template Conversion Tool. I don't see it
> anywhere.
>
> The closest I have come is from the top menu bar View/Master
> Lists/Sources/Options but under there there is nothing about converting
> sources.
>
> I have searched everywhere except evidentally the right place. Can anyone
> help me with the proper path?
>
> Jeff




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion tool - I can't find it

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Jeff,

The 4th paragraph of the article at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/legacy-family-t.html gives
the official word on this.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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Comcast
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion tool - I can't find it

I have the book for version 7 to use the conversion tool for sources it says

to go Options and choose Source Template Conversion Tool. I don't see it 
anywhere.

The closest I have come is from the top menu bar View/Master 
Lists/Sources/Options but under there there is nothing about converting 
sources.

I have searched everywhere except evidentally the right place. Can anyone 
help me with the proper path?

Jeff





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RE: [LegacyUG] Census Information: How to record 'published date' in the the Master Source definition of Sourcewriter.

[Geoff Rasmussen]

David,

The published date field for an online source is reserved for the year when
the document/database was initially published if you can locate that
information. For Ancestry.com databases, it is always available in their
citation.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of music-line
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Census Information: How to record 'published date' in
the the Master Source definition of Sourcewriter.

Hi everyone,

Just interested to see what people do here.  What information would people
put in the 'published date' section of the sourcewriter template if the
information is found online at ancestry.com?

1851?  It is the 1851 census of England, so is there any point in putting it
twice?

2005?

Or would folk copy the whole sentence?

"1851 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations
Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales,
1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public
Record Office (PRO), 1851. Data imaged from the National Archives, London,
England."

Best wishes

David




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RE: [LegacyUG] other schedules

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Here's the status on sources. Dave is almost finished reprogramming the
citation stuff for reports. We're also almost finished adding all of the
missing media (online images, microfilm, etc.) for which there were no
specific models in Evidence Explained. We're also working on the override at
the master source level. We're also working on a special 'web publishing'
GEDCOM output to retain the proper formatting for citations. I don't know
the status of the conversion tool. Now that the media will be complete for
the templates, we can also work on adding other templates that have been
requested, such as the different schedules. That's the latest, thanks all
for your patience.

Thanks,

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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:17 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] other schedules

Is Legacy planning on coming out with templates for the slave schedules and 
the mortality schedules?  It is a pain to have to override on every entry 
(you can't override on the sources, only on the detail)

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RE: [LegacyUG] Using Sourcewriter templates - Footnote/Endnote Citation etc

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Hi David,

The reason for this is that this template was patterned after the model in
Evidence Explained by Elizabeth Mills. You can modify it by clicking on the
override link. Here you can add in the given names.

Thanks,

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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 3:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Sourcewriter templates - Footnote/Endnote Citation
etc

Hi everyone,

I have only just started to look at the new 'sourcewriter templates', so
could quite easiliy be missing something here.

This is specifically to do with the 'Letter' template, but may well be
applicable to other templates.

At the end of the Footnote/Endnote Citation, the information reads:
"privately held by Brookes" and the Subsequent Citation reads "Brookes to
Brookes, 11 Mar 2008".

Apart from the issue that I hate being refered to by my surname, there are
many Brookes surnames in my database (obvious really!!)

Is there a way of altering the template 'output' so that it reads my (and
the sender's) full name.  The only way I can get it to read how I wish is by
putting my full name in the Surname box of the template, and don't really
want to do this as there is a separate box for first names.

I am probably missing a setting somewhere along the line, but would be
really grateful of any help, or logical reason why the template has been set
up in this way.

Best wishes

David




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RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Kelly,

The 4th paragraph of the following article gives some insight on this:

http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/legacy-family-t.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Horst
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:12 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter

Good Morning,
 
I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my
Basic Sources.  According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion
Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button
and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu.
 
When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template
Conversion Tool listed in the submenu.
I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected
SourceWriter System under Source Entry System.  I also performed a file
maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program.
 
When I open 
 
Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature?
 
Help!
 
Kelly





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RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestion for SourceWriter

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Mike,

Good idea. We've actually already done this, but haven't "opened" it up for
display yet. We'll talk about it some more.

Thanks,

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Fry
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Suggestion for SourceWriter

Would it be possible to attach to each template description an 
indication of where in the Evidence Explained book, it is described? A 
simple section reference would suffice. Better still - allow us to enter 
the section reference and see what matches!

I'm convinced that this would help to minimise the number of How-To 
questions for different types of source documents that get posted to the 
list.

-- 
Regards,
Mike Fry
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RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid not working?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dave's got most everything fixed. He found one more problem and would rather
release the update with it all fixed. So...he's working hard on the next
update.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirsten
Bowman
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ibid not working?

Richard:

What you missed were the several very long threads about source-related
things that don't work in the reports.  In general, the report function is
pretty useless right now but we're holding our breath and waiting for a
fix--which Geoff promised "soon.".

Kirsten

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Yardley
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Ibid not working?


 Please help - I have the Ibid box checked under Options>Customise>Sources
but when drawing a Book report duplicate master source references are
displyed in footnotes or in endnotes - I am expecting an Ibid with the
specific source detail eg varying page numbers appended to the Ibid. Please
- am I missing something? Thank you,

Richard




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citations Free Form

[Geoff Rasmussen]

And I don't dare answer when :-)

Thanks,

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patti Hobbs
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citations Free Form

That will be wonderful, Geoff. Thanks.   I guess I don't dare ask  
"when?":-)

One thing I noticed with another program is that if the citation can  
be exported with the gedcom tag of "title" and maintain its formatting  
that it would work great in TNG.

Patti
http://hobbits8.net
On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote:

> We are also working on a special "web" export which will format your
> citations so they work perfectly with GEDCOM-submission sites such  
> as TNG.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
> Patti Hobbs
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:31 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citations Free Form
>
> Yes, thanks, Janis; helps perfectly.  I'll have to see how it exports
> to TNG now.  I thought I had seen that somewhere in Legacy, but I've
> just not been spending much time lately with the citations in it.
>
> Patti
> On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote:
>
>> Patti, I have used the SourceWriter override boxes for some sources
>> that I
>> felt just weren't shaping up as I liked - particularly in one case
>> when the
>> source was so compound in nature that it really required more than I
>> could
>> squeeze out of the SourceWriter. You can use out the SourceWriter,
>> as usual,
>> to the best of your ability, and then completely rewrite the output,
>> if you
>> like.
>>
>> To me this is preferable because it also allows an override for the
>> subsequent citation, and bibliography etc. So you can catch all
>> three at the
>> same time. This is in the source detail rather than the master
>> source, if
>> that bothers you.
>>
>> Did that make sense?
>>
>> Janis
>>
>>
>> On 9/16/08 8:54 AM, "Patti Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Some other programs provide options for just writing out one's own
>>> citation in a "free-form" box rather than using the individual entry
>>> pieces that I see in Legacy. Is there a way to bypass the normal
>>> source citation forms and just write it yourself?
>>>
>>> Patti




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citations Free Form

[Geoff Rasmussen]

We are also working on a special "web" export which will format your
citations so they work perfectly with GEDCOM-submission sites such as TNG.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citations Free Form

Yes, thanks, Janis; helps perfectly.  I'll have to see how it exports  
to TNG now.  I thought I had seen that somewhere in Legacy, but I've  
just not been spending much time lately with the citations in it.

Patti
On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote:

> Patti, I have used the SourceWriter override boxes for some sources  
> that I
> felt just weren't shaping up as I liked - particularly in one case  
> when the
> source was so compound in nature that it really required more than I  
> could
> squeeze out of the SourceWriter. You can use out the SourceWriter,  
> as usual,
> to the best of your ability, and then completely rewrite the output,  
> if you
> like.
>
> To me this is preferable because it also allows an override for the
> subsequent citation, and bibliography etc. So you can catch all  
> three at the
> same time. This is in the source detail rather than the master  
> source, if
> that bothers you.
>
> Did that make sense?
>
> Janis
>
>
> On 9/16/08 8:54 AM, "Patti Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Some other programs provide options for just writing out one's own
>> citation in a "free-form" box rather than using the individual entry
>> pieces that I see in Legacy. Is there a way to bypass the normal
>> source citation forms and just write it yourself?
>>
>> Patti
>>
>>
>>
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[LegacyUG] Status of bugs

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dave wanted me to pass along that an update will be coming soon - likely
next week. It will address lots and lots of concerns. He/Ken have been
having a major bug-busting fest. Thank you for your patience. Just a few
more days

Thanks,

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[LegacyUG] Four SourceWriter tips

[Geoff Rasmussen]

We've just published some SourceWriter tips in response to some of today's
questions on this mailing list. Read the tips in our Legacy News blog at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/09/a-couple-of-sou.html

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RE: [LegacyUG] creating custom reports

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Doris,

Here are a couple of articles in our Legacy News blog that gives you some
good ideas:


http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/04/legacy-tip-how.html


http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/03/location_resear.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doris
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:32 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] creating custom reports

Hello all,

I recently switched to using Legacy and am having a devil of a time figuring
out how to create custom reports. I must be missing something!
Could anyone tell me how I might go about creating a custom report? I would
like to print a list of all individuals who got married during a certain
period of time and in a certain place? 
Or say a list of burial dates and places for all individuals in my file?
That when I can go on a road trip, I will know which individuals are buried
in a particular cemetery, so when I get there I can try and acquire the plot
cards, and maybe even a picture of any headstones.

I hope someone can help! Thanks!
Doris





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs - For Ron

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Ron,

Dave fixed this yesterday for the next build.

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ferguson
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:52 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs - For Ron


Kirsten,

Eureka! subject to this being the same in Word as in OOo.

I changed the Footnote reference number in OOo to Roman Numerals. The only
references which appeared in the footnotes were those relating to Vital
Events - Name, BMDs etc.

The Other Events eg. Residence, Occupation, Miliary Service etc. still
appeared in the text in Arabic Numerals and were not included in the
Footnotes.

Perhaps you can check this in Word?


Ron Ferguson

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> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs - For Ron
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:34:00 -0700
>
> Ron:
>
> I'm sorry to hear about this new issue but it's probably well that you
> discovered it early on, and perhaps it will be corrected in the update
Geoff
> mentioned. Good luck, and thanks.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ronald
> ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:35 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs - For Marie
>
>
>
> Kirsten,
>
> I have tried this in OOo and whilst the footnotes transfer fine to the end
> of the report the references are still incorrect.
>
> There is a possibility (and I put it no stronger than that) that the
problem
> arises after there have been multiple sources attached to one Event. I
need
> to look further at this and it may be complicated by other factors.
>
> Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] v7 to v6 with v7 gedcom

[Geoff Rasmussen]

I spoke with Dave about this today. He said that it actually works fine.
There is an option on the GEDCOM export screen that says "Override Source
options - include all source information." When this is checked, all source
information is exported. He has now changed the default setting for this to
be checked.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lill Ann
Parry
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] v7 to v6 with v7 gedcom

Since this has been a hot topic, I thought I would experiment to see the 
outcome.
[I am running on a laptop with XP pro, v7 deluxe installed in 
c\programs\legacy]

I installed v6 deluxe to C:\legacy and created an empty database. A side 
note, I had saved the usr files from v6 before I upgraded to v7 and 
copied them into the newly installed v6.

I closed v6, opened v7 deluxe and created two gedcoms with different 
names. One with 5.5 option, adding photo, path, event description to 
include all the options. I also created a second gedcom using the Legacy 
gedcom option with no changes to the default.

I closed v7, opened v6 and imported the 5.5 gedcom into the newly 
created empty database. I repeated the process with the Legacy gedcom to 
another empty database. in v6.

Both gedcoms resulted in the same number of individuals and families. 
Both created the same error log with one unrecognized field [I meant to 
copy it, but was a bit tired at this point, but it was one that 
contained all the text/comments for sources based on what was copied to 
the notes in the v6 database]

The major issue with both gedcoms was that

any source that contained text/comments created in v7 was GONE. All 
source text that had been entered in v6 remained in the database, but 
that which had been added since I upgraded did not import, it was also 
missing altogether from any of the error logs. All the sources in v7 had 
been created with the basic source writer or using existing sources that 
had been created in past versions of Legacy.

To explain this a little better, My method of sourcing is to select a 
master source, enter the specifics in the description field, and enter a 
date. I use the text/comments to copy and paste the specific 
information. For example, the Norwegian census data is posted in a 
database format. I copy it to notepad, then paste it into the 
text/comments field of the source citation. I do the same with IGI/VRI 
extracted records in my citations. All of the citations that were 
created in v7 were missing the copied text/comments portion of the 
citation. All of the citations that had been created in v6 or earlier 
contained the pasted text. This was double checked to confirm that the 
data was in v7,but did not import with the gedcom in either option.

Lill Ann





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Thomas,

I'll look into this one this morning. I see that it isn't yet resolved, but
I'll make sure it is for the next build.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herson
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

Sherry,

Have they fixed the source template used for the Application for Social 
Security Acoount ?

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


> Ruth,
>
> The programmers have been really busy working on bugs the past couple of
> months.  If you're patient enough, you may be pleasantly surprised.
>
> The list is too long for me to specify what has been fixed but they've
> worked on reports, SourceWriter and the Help file at the very least as 
> well
> as other issues.
>
> Thanks for using Legacy.
>
> Sherry
> Customer Support
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruth 
> Nerud
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:45 PM
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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
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> Wouldn't it be a kick in the head if I went thru all this grief to go back
> to Ver 6 only to find out the next day an update is available that would
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Guess what? I saw the new option today that Dave added that will allow you
to have the "true" RTF footnotes (as it currently is in v7) or the normal
footnotes as they were in v6. Dave has also corrected your footnote
duplication problem. We're hoping to do a new test build really soon. After
the fixes have been confirmed by the testing team, a new general release
will be available.

Thanks,

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Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs

Marie:

Thanks so much for checking this out.  Your results are a little different
from mine but sound vaguely like what Ruth is experiencing.  If you can get
a decent RTF report, it's possible you might be on the track of something
that could help us both out, at least temporarily.  I don't care at all for
the "sources as footnotes" format even in one-generation reports since my
records are heavily sourced and insertion of the footnotes causes a single
family group to be split up over several pages.  I haven't worked with
linked footnotes in Word before; it seems to resist my attempts to move them
all to the end of the report but there may be an option somewhere to change
that.  I'll keep experimenting.  It's interesting, though, that the
formatting of the source citations themselves seems to be better in the
footnotes version than in the endnotes version.  Oh, my.  This is like
having to learn about changing a fan belt when I just want to get in the car
and drive!

And yes, I've reported the bug(s?) and they've been confirmed but that's
been weeks ago so I don't feel hopeful about a quick fix.  It'll surely be
released the day after I go back to v.6.  Probably when more users try
producing reports in a format for editing there will be much wailing and
gnashing of teeth.

Thanks again for your help.

Kirsten




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Connelly
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs


Kirsten,

I just tried my first Descendant Report, 2 generation, RTF, opened with Word
2000.  First time checked sources as footnotes.  Beautiful, perfect.
Second time I checked sources as endnotes.  What a mess.  The notes are all
mixed in with the report, in no particular order.  It didn't seem to make
any difference whether the sources were written with Source Writer or not.

Has support mentioned if this is a bug that will hopefully be worked out in
an update in the near future or is it a bug that we'll have to wait for a
while to be fixed?

Marie







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RE: [LegacyUG] The IGI

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Michele,

Thanks for bringing this up. I'll ask Ken to update this.

Thanks,

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Lewis
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:14 AM
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] The IGI

I just noticed that when I add an IGI entry (through the search that is 
available through the Legacy program itself) it sources it using the OLD 
source template.  The IGI isn't being sourced by the new source writer. Why 
is that?

michele





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Sally,

The next update will contain specific SourceWriter templates for all of the
Canadian censuses, including the recent release of the 1916 Western Canada
census and the 1940 National Registration File.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heeren
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census

I have an 1851 Agricultural census for an individual in Ontario county,
Reach Township.
 
The SourceWriter doesn't have a CANADA, when I use Every Other Country
Except... it doesn't look right.
 
Canada was really England in 1851, it didn't become independent from England
until after WWI but using England isn't correct either.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Sally
 
PS... I've checked archives & there are no messages with this subject since
the SourceWriter came out. 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Wizard and LDS ancestral files

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Christine,

The specific template for the Ancestral File as outlined in section 7.32
(page 347) of Evidence Explained is not yet in Legacy's SourceWriter.
But...it will be there in the next free update. By the way, it currently
would fit within the "Add a generic source here > CD/DVD database" template.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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==

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine
Pearce
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:02 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Wizard and LDS ancestral files

Could someone please advise the best template to use for entering info from
an LDS Ancestral File v4? 

These records show each family member with a unique AFN number under the
title Family Group Record. If you click a person's name the main title
changes to Individual Record. 

If you then click Submitter(s), you get the list of people you contributed.
Microfilm numbers are apparently not applicable, but there are Submission
numbers assigned to each contributor.

I'm completely confused what info to capture and which Source Wizard
template to use.

Thanks in advance.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Sacramento CA Legacy Class Starting Date Is WRONG!!!

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Thanks. It's now updated.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:16 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Sacramento CA Legacy Class Starting Date Is WRONG!!!

Hi,
The legacy class starting date in Sacramento, CA is 8 Sep 2008, goes for six
weeks and ends on 20 Oct 2008...no class 13 Oct 2008  It is wrong on the
website.  It will be held at:

4701 Gibbons Dr
Carmichael, CA 95608
Phone: (916) 972-0336





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[LegacyUG] Sale on Evidence book and Legacy Lightning mouse pads

[Geoff Rasmussen]

For details, please visit
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/special-sale-on.html

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[LegacyUG] Upcoming Legacy classes

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Legacy classes/seminars/workshops are scheduled for Arizona, British
Columbia, California, Maine, Ontario, Pennsylvania, Utah, and Washington. If
you live in any of these areas, and are interested, visit
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/upcoming-legacy.html for
more information.

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Geoff Rasmussen
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Beginners Class Sacramento, CA

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Carol,

Do you mean September 8th for the beginning date? Do you mind if we help
publicize this through Legacy News?

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Beginners Class Sacramento, CA

A six week class in beginning Legacy software is offered at the Mission Oaks
Community Center, 4701 Gibbons Drive, Sacramento, CA.  (916) 972-0336
It will meet at 10:15 AM to 12:15 PM, from Aug 8th thru Oct 13.  If
interested contact Mission Oaks Center to register.  Enrollment is limited
to 25.  The class will cover the basic features of the program, and
introduce those new to legacy 7.  Basic computer knowledge is required.

Carol
Elk Grove, CA





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[LegacyUG] Legacy Now Available in German and Swedish

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Surprise, Arizona, August 18, 2008 -- Millennia Corporation, a leader in
family history software, today announced that its software, Legacy Family
Tree, is now available in two new languages: Deutsch (German) and Svenska
(Swedish).

The software, used by beginners and professionals to record, plan, and share
their family trees, is now the premier choice for German and Swedish
researchers. Legacy is also available in Danish, Dutch, Norwegian, and
English editions.

"Making genealogy software available to researchers in their native language
is a big step in helping the world trace their family trees," said Dave
Berdan, president of Millennia Corporation. "This is an exciting day for us
to help German and Swedish researchers."

Read the entire press release at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/legacy-family-1.html.

Thanks to all of our translators for making this possible!

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Jenny,

I'm not sure. If this were possible, the entire citation that you create
using the override option would all belong to the detail instead of a master
source. And there has to first be a master source. An interesting suggestion
that we can discuss. Thank you.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

Geoff Rasmussen wrote
>With this option selected, when the GEDCOM is uploaded to the site of 
>choice, the entire citation will read as it is displayed in the 
>Footnote/Endnote Citation of the output preview.

Would it be possible to have something similar within Legacy so that one 
can type in a complete Source Citation, primary and subsequent versions, 
rather than use Templates?  (In other words, something like the 
Overrides screen.)  ESM gives examples of numerous Citations, many of 
which can be reproduced using SourceWriter Templates - but not all.  It 
is not possible to replicate these Citations using the Basic Style.

I realise we have the Overrides screen now, but this can't be accessed 
without using a Master Source first and there are occasions when I would 
like to be able to go directly to the Overrides screen.
-- 
Jenny M Benson




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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dave and I met about this yesterday and have some ideas.

First of all, one of our great challenges when developing the SourceWriter was 
to ensure that no information is lost when sharing via GEDCOM. Because the 
GEDCOM standard does not have specific fields for the specific SourceWriter 
fields, Legacy has to "break apart" the nice EE-style citations into the source 
fields as accepted by GEDCOM, namely title, author, publication, etc. So, while 
no SourceWriter information is lost, the formatting is not retained when 
exporting.

But...the SourceWriter citations are so nice :) that it'd sure be great if when 
publishing to the web, such as to TNG, WorldConnect, and other GEDCOM-based 
publishing cites, that Legacy's SourceWriter citations were preserved.

Therefore, we have some ideas about adding a new GEDCOM Export option. When you 
go to the GEDCOM Export screen, we could add new choice under the "Produce File 
For" drop-down list called "The Web" or "GEDCOM-based publishing" or something 
like that. With this option selected, when the GEDCOM is uploaded to the site 
of choice, the entire citation will read as it is displayed in the 
Footnote/Endnote Citation of the output preview. This new export option would 
also set certain privacy defaults and others.

If this makes sense to any of you, would this solution be adequate? 

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:41 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources: Nifty formatting lost in gedcom output

Do you happen to find yourself in the following three categories?
 
1) You use Legacy v7 sourcewriter and have converted some/all of your sources
2) You publish to the web using TNG
3) You strongly desire to have these sources formatted according to Evidence 
Explained
 
If so, please note that the gedcom output from Legacy does not lend itself to 
formatting the same way the web site as it does in Legacy reports.  I was so 
excited that Legacy came up with sourcewriter and that we could finally format 
our sources the way that the professional genealogy field does.  The 
sourcewriter tool is easy to use and I think it's going to help many people get 
over a fear of sourcing.
 
This is all great!  However, for those of us who publish to the web, all is 
lost in the translation to gedcom.  This is a huge disappointment to me!  We 
must either find a way to get TNG to re-format the gedcom data or find a way to 
have Legacy export the sources in the same way they are presented on the screen.
 
I am at a loss on how to proceed.  I have converted 3/4 of my census data to 
the new source format, but on my TNG website, these sources are still a mess.  
If you would like to respond off-line, I would sure love to have some fellow 
collaborators on working out this issue.
 
Thanks,

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcewriter with dutch sources

[Geoff Rasmussen]

The following template works well for any kind of online database:

Add a Generic Source Here > Online Database

Genlias certainly would fit into this category.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard Doddema
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:22 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcewriter with dutch sources

I use Genlias for much of my Dutch ancestors.  It has birth, marriage, and 
death records online.

The text below is an example of a search.  How would I use sourcewriter to do 
this?  I'm changing over all my previous sources to sourcewriter so I can get 
everything standardized (Hopefully I'm going the right way about this!).
 
result: (Groom) 

Source 
Civil register - Marriage 
Archive location 
Groninger Archieven 
General
Municipality: Wildervank 
Type of record: Huwelijksakte 
Record number: 46 
Registration date: 01-06-1907 
Groom
Samuel Doddema 
Place of birth: Muntendam 
Bride
Jakoba Lamain 
Place of birth: Veendam 
Father groom
Pieter Doddema 
Mother groom
Jantje Doddema 
Father bride
Jelis Lamain 
Mother bride
Aaltje Kruidhof 
Additional information 
beroep bruidegom: arbeider; beroep bruid: dienstbode; beroep vader bruidegom.: 
arbeider; beroep vader bruid: arbeider; bruidegom 21 jaar; bruid 26 jaar 





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[LegacyUG] Legacy tip: How to change the toolbar button size

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Today's Legacy tip, entitled "How to change the toolbar button size" is now
available:

- via the Legacy News section of the Legacy Home tab of Legacy 6/7
- via your Legacy News RSS feed
- via our blog at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/legacy-tip-how.html

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Ronald,

Seems like this one would match:

Marriage Records > Found in Governmental Records > Marriage
Certificate > Country > Created at local/county level > Online image

If it's just a database, this one always works:

Add a Generic Source Here > Online database

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald E
Howell
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage Source V7

What Master source, using SourceWriter, would be used for a marriage record
found on the internet through www.ancestry.com?  I am using the deluxe
version of Legacy v7. It is not a church record but a State/County record.

Thanks and I appreciate your help in advance,

Ronald E Howell
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Wall Chart Printing Service Is Now Available

[Geoff Rasmussen]

I'll ask Luc to reply when he can. He's out of town right now but should
periodically check his email.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Wall Chart Printing Service Is Now
Available


Geoff Rasmussen wrote
>Download the free update

Oh dear, that's beggared the job!

When I installed Legacy 7 I let it do a default installation and the 
path is C:\Legacy.  The path to Legacy Charting is 
C:\Legacy\LegacyCharting7.

When I updated to the latest version 7.0.116 the update went into 
C:\Program Files\Millennia\LegacyCharting7.  It won't work from there 
because the Data folder is not there.

Why is the download not recognizing where my Charting files are? 
(Especially as they are in the default location!)
-- 
Jenny M Benson




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[LegacyUG] Legacy's Wall Chart Printing Service Is Now Available

[Geoff Rasmussen]

>From www.legacynews.typepad.com:

We're excited to announce that our new Wall Chart Printing service is now
ready to go! With just a few clicks in the new Legacy Charting software,
your custom designed chart can be ordered for delivery to your front door.

Legacy Charting, which is included with the new Legacy Family Tree 7.0,
includes 18 different styles of wall charts, including ancestor, descendant,
DNA, fan, hour glass, and bow tie charts. Each chart can be fully customized
and can include full color pictures, custom text boxes, and even your own
digital pictures for the background. Charts can be printed on regular white
paper, or you can choose beautiful photo glossy paper, or even have it
printed on matte canvas.

To order your chart, in Legacy Charting, click on the Publish tab, then
click on the Order Chart button. Here you can select your paper type and
quantity. With an Internet connection, Legacy Charting will display the
total price of the chart based on the size and selected options. No more
wondering what the cost of the chart will be when you are ready to purchase
it. If the displayed cost is a little out of range, just change the size of
the boxes on the Appearance tab and the chart cost will automatically be
adjusted.

Download the free update
To purchase a chart from within Legacy Charting, you will need to
download/install the latest update, recently released. Follow these steps to
get the update:

- Open Legacy Charting, and click on the Tips & Updates tab. 
- In the Updates section, click on the link to install the update and follow
the prompts.

The next time you run Legacy Charting, you will be able to purchase your
chart.

Sample Charts
See http://www.legacycharting.com/samples.htm for examples of charts that
can be created with Legacy Charting. If you do not yet have Legacy 7.0,
visit www.LegacyFamilyTree.com for more information. The standard edition of
Legacy Charting (limited to 4 generations at a time) is available for free
download at www.LegacyCharting.com.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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RE: [LegacyUG] Obits?

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Michele,

You have selected the correct template, as the actual source you are
consulting is the newspaper. Most obits make no reference of the author, so
yes, just leave the author fields blank. The templates are flexible enough
that you can leave a field blank if you wish, and the formatting should
usually still work out fine.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Lewis
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:19 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Obits?

I am trying to do an obit using the sourcewriter but there is no option for 
obituary.  When I do the newspaper option it asks for an author and stuff 
that isn't relevant.  Are we supposed to use the newspaper option and just 
leave all the other stuff blank?

michele




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RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Text

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Judie,

To change what you've entered in the Text/Comments section of the Source
Detail, open the Assigned Sources screen, click on the appropriate source in
the list, then click on Edit Detail. Finally, click on the Text/Comments
tab, and you can edit anything you want.

As a note, when you create a source using the SourceWriter, is it also
formatted behind the scenes so when you change to the Basic System, all of
the pieces of the SourceWriter source correctly populates the basic source
form.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jwfrench
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citation Text

Is there any way to alter the citation text? The over-ride doesn't seem to
work.  I am attempting to source a census report with the names in list
format instead of paragraph format. Can I convert them back to the Legacy 6
format?
 
Judie in Oregon 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Death Certificates

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Karima,

Death Records > Death Certificate > Local/County level > Original.

The term "original" is probably a bit misleading for now. We'll come up with
better phrasing in the future. But this is the specific template that was
intended for your situation.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:08 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer - Death Certificates

I can't seem to figure out which template to use for recording copies of 
original death certificates that I have obtained from County Clerks.  Can 
someone help me with this?

Thanks in advance,

Karima





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail vs Event Data

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Bob,

You're right. Copying/pasting is the right thing to do here. Yes, it is 
redundant to have the census transcription both in the event notes and in the 
source detail text. But if it's just a copy/paste which doesn't take too much 
time, it's not time totally wasted. The reason why I put it in both places is 
because right now I don't know all of what I want to accomplish in the future. 
Maybe I want that transcription in the event notes for easier analysis of the 
chronology. But when I share a GEDCOM with someone else, maybe I want to have 
the transcription of the source in the source details. So, a little duplication 
now, but in the future you'll always be glad that you don't have to go retype 
it again somewhere else.

I wouldn't suggest recreating the events, just the sources for the existing 
events.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 2:31 PM
To: Legacy
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Detail vs Event Data

I've been trying to fathom the disc 5 instructions relative to using the 
'Source/Write System'  and entering census records. I'm having a bit of trouble 
understanding these instructions.

(1) When adding an event, the source is 'selected' and 'step 1'  (setting the 
source clipboard) recommendation on the video is to 'transcribe all persons 
shown on the census record' into the text box during the source build, then 
'save'.  Next  is 'step 2' to 'add' the census event to the individual and 
'transcribe the information'. After entering the 'event', 'date', and 'place' 
it tells me to then  'transcribe all persons shown on the census record'!  This 
appears to be redundant, and if these instructions are to be followed, should I 
have 'copied' the data from the first entry, and 'pasted' it to this step? 
Where am I going wrong in my thinking?  If I enter all persons from the census 
in step one, why am, I re-entering it in step 2?

2) Another anomaly I seem to have encountered.  In trying to 'correct/change' 
an old event by re-installing the census event data under the sourcewriter, I 
see that the data is entered twice for all children in the Chronology view.  To 
add to the confusion, in this view, there is a long underline preceding each of 
the children entered in the older format. Is there a recommendation on how to 
re-enter the data without the duplication showign up in the Chronology view? 
Perhaps I should only use the sourcewriter for 'new' additions?  I really do 
like the way the data is presented in book and other reports by using the 
sourcewriter, but 

Observations and guidance solicited for this 'noob'.

Bob





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Standard V.7 reports show Subsequent Citations

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dave B. has fixed this for the next update

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Connelly
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Standard V.7 reports show Subsequent Citations

Forgive me for not putting this on the older thread about this subject.

When I use SourceWriter, my reports don't print the Endnotes/Footnotes even
on the first time the source is cited.  They always print the Subsequent
Citation as I said even on the first try.

Thanks.  If it is a bug should I report it?

Marie



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RE: [LegacyUG] Mills inconsistency

[Geoff Rasmussen]

The Person of Interest IS included in all the source templates. You may just
have to scroll down to view it. By the way, Dave B. has now added something
to allow us to know if there are more fields, so this shouldn't be easy to
overlook in the future.

Thanks,

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Penny
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:47 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mills inconsistency

Robert, What Michele and I were questioning has to do with some specific 
detail questions on Legacy's Source Writer.  Our specific question addresses

things that are found on every census (Person of interest, dwelling & family

numbers.), rather than other extraneous information that varied from census 
to census.

Neither the 1930 nor the 1880 templates, for example, allows you to input 
the person of interest, while 1870 and others do allow you to input this 
information.  (There may be others, I just remembered those two off the top 
of my head.)  There are similar inconsistencies concerning inclusion of the 
family number.  We wondered why this is so.

Penny


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Carneal USA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Michele-
>
> It depends on what else was asked that year but not asked in other
> years.  Sometimes that is viewed as more useful or more important. Note
> that in 1870 they asked if Father was foreign born, Mother was foreign
> born, and if you were eligible to vote.
>
> Some years they asked about the number of slaves the property owned had.
> Obviously the question no longer applies today.
>
> In 1900, they asked about Citizenship, how long a person had been in
> this country (useful in researching immigration papers),
>
> In 1910, they asked about about the "Mother of how many children"? And
> then they asked how many of those children were living? The answer could
> be the mother had eight children, and six were living for example during
> that census year. That information is useful in informing the researcher
> that by 1910, Kathy had eight children. So the researcher begins to look
> for eight kids.  He knows that by 1910, two were no longer living. That
> is a clue.
>
> Mills wrote her book in hopes that the reader would use her examples for
> consistencies, yes, but she had to change her examples based on what the
> census (whatever year) offered. If you decide to follow her examples,
> your sources will be consistent, even though it appears to differ from
> census year to census year, they will be the same for same census to
> same census. That was one of the primary goals for Ms. Mills.
>
> Legacy has a blank sample of sources for the every year, I believe. It
> is under Books and Other, select the Forms Center button, and then go to
> US Federal. You can compare and contrast them, perhaps seeing the
> differences on blank sheets will help.
>
> Robert




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RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Jenny,

Let's talk about it then. Elizabeth Mills has certainly provided the
researcher with flexibility to split or lump. What specific fields would you
want to be included with the master source? After deciding that, we'd need
to then come up with a simple, understandable source type name for the
organizational hierarchy of the selections in step 1 of the SourceWriter.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M
Benson
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail 


When using the SourceWriter to create a citation for an e-mail there are 
fields for entering the details of the sender, the recipient and the 
e-mail itself.   When you move to the Source Details screen, there are 
NO fields for Detail Information, other than Surety Level, Recorded Date 
and File ID.  This means that one must create a new Master Source for 
every single e-mail one wishes to record.

NO!  NO!  NO!  that is taking splitting to the nth degree and I refuse!

I've just checked out the template for Letters and I see that is the 
same.  I haven't looked at all the templates by any means yet, but I 
know that several of them have full Detail Information screens which 
allow for one Master Source and many Details so I can't imagine why the 
E-mail and Letter (and other?) templates are like this.

I will definitely have to revert to Basic Source System for 
correspondence if we can't have the option to use SourceWriter in 
lumping fashion and that will be a real PITA.
-- 
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer option

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Bob,

We have an idea in mind for this

Thanks,

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert57P
via Gmail
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer option

I remember this being asked, but don't recall it ever being answered.

If one has OPTIONS, CUSTOMIZE, SOURCES and has "SOURCEWRITER" ticked in 
lower left, then you are "forced" to always use Sourcewriter.  No way to use

the "basic" system when you are updating someone - without leaving that 
person and coming back to these options and then returning to the person.

HOWEVER, if you select BASIC SOURCE SYSTEMS on the options screen, AND if 
you check the box "ask which system to use . . . ", then when you try to add

a new source you get a pop-up box that asks which method you want to use 
(Basic or SourceWriter).

LEGACY Support - maybe a better way??:  There's a lot of space by that "ADD 
A NEW SOURCE" button.  Why not make 2 buttons there:
ADD A NEW SOURCE-BASIC
ADD A NEW SOURCE-SOURCEWRITER

Bob





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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Footnotes missing

[Geoff Rasmussen]

On the Sources tab of the Report Options for the Family Group Record, you'll
notice that there are no choices to print footnotes. Endnotes are the only
option for Family Group Records. Just make sure that the "Print source
citations" option is turned on.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Gregson
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:40 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Footnotes missing

I'm a newbie.
Tried printing my first Report, Family Group record.
But nowhere did I see my foot notes / end notes in the printout.
The Instruction Book does not mention foot notes; at least I can't 
find any mention.
I must be missing some option?

John
Dawson Creek,BC
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Kirsten,

Yes, Legacy's SourceWriter is and will continue to expand on Evidence
Explained. We are currently working on adding all of the media that were not
modeled with each individual model in EE. We'll release this in free
updates. We are also making progress right now on adding specific templates
for UK BMDs and census records. These will come with time. As Elizabeth
Mills states in her book, there's no way that she could provide models for
all sources throughout the world, but she did do a good job in my opinion of
providing the needed background. Legacy will make this easier though, both
now and in future development.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirsten
Bowman
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert

Denise:

What Penny describes as the Texas procedure for marriage licenses and
certificates sounds very much like that followed in the past in California
and Kansas (although by now it's probably streamlined and automated somehow)
and, in fact, my own originals were folded to mailing size at one time.  So
I agree with what she's said, but still feel that the Artifact template in
Legacy is the best citation fit.  And while my own examples probably do
carry a notation on the backs about where they were recorded, I'm not
inclined to dismantle some rather expensive framing jobs for the sake of
getting that additional bit of info for a citation

It seems very odd that, since marriage licenses and certificates are a
fairly common "family paper" and that the same procedure was apparently
followed in at least a few states, if not all, Mills didn't include a
specific citation format for them or at least indicate how they should be
treated.  Perhaps Legacy's Source Writer needs to expand on _EE_?

Kirsten

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Penny
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:29 PM
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Original Marriage Cert


Denise, I think I'm going to have to disagree on this question with others
who have replied thus far.

Birth and death certificates, at least in Texas, are now and have always
been handled a little differently than marriage certificates.  I don't know
if this holds true for other states - probably not in all of them.

I have three original "marriage certificates" from the State of Texas: my
own, my parents, and my paternal grandparents.I also have a certified
copy of my own marriage cert. and am, therefore, able to compare to see the
differences.

In Texas, these are what are issued as "marriage licenses".  Couple goes to
the County Clerk to get one; once the prerequisites are met, it's signed &
issued by said County Clerk, and the couple takes it with them to whomever
is going to perform the wedding ceremony.  The person who performs the rites
(whether minister or other) then signs and fills in the date and location of
the ceremony and he/she sends it back to the issuing County Clerk for
recording.  The Co. Clerk then records it - (by making an exact transcript
that looks very much like the original except that the signatures (of the
minister/JP and the County Clerk) are typed in instead of actually signed.
The Clerk then mails the original back to the couple.  When a certified copy
is later issued, it's not a photocopy of the original, it's a copy of the
transcribed record held in the Clerk's office (duly signed & stamped by the
current County Clerk or authorized personnel as being authentic).

On the back of the **originals** is where you find where exactly this
marriage is recorded in Texas.  It will say something like:
Filed the 9th day of April 1935
W.A. Tittle (actual signature)
Clerk County Court of Terry County
Recorded in Book 3, Page 208 of Marriage Records

This is a long way around to say:  You bet I would put the citation in
stating who holds the original.  I record the provenance of an original
marriage record just as I would the provenance of a family Bible.  I
certainly will find a way (when I re-enter these via Source Writer) to
include where the certificate was recorded.  Others will be able to find it
from that; but it needs to be noted that the original still exists and who
has it.

I haven't looked at this in Legacy 7, but I would think it would be
government records because it's issued under the authority of a state;
however, unless I can find a way to note both where the certificate is
recorded (e.g. County name, Marriage Book #, and page) plus who holds the
original, then I'll have to re-think it.

Just my long-winded thoughts on the subject,
Penny


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RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Janis,

In one of the emails I wrote yesterday I included Dave B.'s (programmer)
comments about this, he basically said that this won't work all the way,
hence the need for the conversion tool.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
Gilmore
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
Master Sources

I just tried merging it the opposite direction, but it won't merge - I get a
message saying that there are citation details involved. When I forced it,
the citation details were indeed preserved, but the Master Source had not
preserved the Source Citation formatting - so I ended up with an incomplete
source.

Comments, Geoff?

Janis Walker Gilmore

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Keeton
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:49 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
Master Sources

Ladies,

Did anyone notice that Janis merged the old source into the new source and
Dede merged them the other way, new into old?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
Gilmore
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
Master Sources


DeDe (and Gail),

That's exactly what I did, except with a census source. Gail, is that what
you did when you tried to combine an old source with a new source, and lost
the citation detail?

Just trying to pinpoint the problem, possibly to a particular template. 

It's encouraging to know that DeDe was successful at this.

Janis Walker Gilmore

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:00 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged
Master Sources

Janis,

The source was a book compiled by my great uncle.  I had BMD info for each
particular person in the Source Details.  I also had a paragraph from the
Preface in the Master Source Text/Comments.

>From the Master Source List, I created a new source using the SourceWriter
Template.  I rewrote the Master Source Text, editing just a little from what
I had written originally.  As far as I can remember now, I clicked on the
new source first, chose "Combine Highlighted Source" then clicked on the old
source and then clicked again.  This source was attached to several areas,
Name, Birth, Marriage, and some Residence events.  I have just checked one
more time and all the details are still there, just as I entered them on
Legacy 6.

Hope this helps.

Dede

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dede,
>
> Can you tell me exactly what you did? What kind of source was it, and 
> in what order did you merge them? I took the old one, clicked on 
> "combine highlighted source with another in list" - then clicked on 
> the new SourceWriter source. This resulted in the loss of the citation 
> details,
but
> comments tabs remained intact.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Penny,

Exactly what I've been doing too. Tagging everyone using the source, then
untagging as I go. I guess I left that part off. Thanks for your input.

Thanks,

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Penny
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

I have expanded on Geoff's method a bit; but only in that I want to be sure 
I converted the citations on everybody using a given source.  So, I'm 
tagging the ones who are using this source before I start, removing the tag 
from each individual as I go.  That way the odd Gilbert-relative who is 
using the same source as their distant Dunaway family kin don't get left 
out.  I just have to be sure to change the detail on the clipboard when I 
switch households.

I do love that darned clipboard.  Handy as a pocket on a shirt!

Penny





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Geoff Rasmussen]

This is a kink in the reporting, thanks to this list, that we have
identified. Dave B. is working on a solution.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dede Holden
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source conversion

Geoff,

When you follow this procedure, do your reports generate the results
you want?  Here is the problem I have had with the new Source Writer.
The Master Source Text prints on every citation, not just the first
time the source is cited.  I have chosen the correct option in all the
appropriate places, but to no avail.  The Source Detail does not print
at all in subsequent citations.  I have submitted this as a bug
report.  I thought the problem was related to the fact that I used the
Combine button, but I get the same problem with a brand new source
entered using the Source Writer.  I also tried a new source going back
to the Basic Source screen and the results in the report were exactly
what I wanted, so I decided the problem must be in the new Source
Writer.

I do love the new templates.  I'm waiting patiently for the kinks to
be ironed out.

Dede Holden

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Barb Krecklow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Geoff, this is very helpful.
>
> Barb Krecklow
>
> - Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Rasmussen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:38 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source conversion
>
>
>> As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when
>> it
>> will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with
>> the
>> word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have
sources
>> that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually
do
>> this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which
>> is
>> not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that
>> I,
>> too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.
>>
>> First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
>> convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
>> citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
>> this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
>> And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style
>> citations,
>> I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
>> source and the source detail. Here is my process for now
>>
>> 1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
>> Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
>> which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a
>> small
>> black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.
>>
>> 2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it
is
>> highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from
>> the
>> Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on
the
>> Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures.
>> With
>> this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to
>> create
>> the new SourceWriter source.
>>
>> 3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
>> source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting
>> the
>> text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
>> the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
>> it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training
>> CD
>> at
>>
>>
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
>> teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.
>>
>> 4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
>> bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
>> Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the
appropriate
>> event.
>>
>> 5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the
>> SourceWriter
>> style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
>> Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
>> replaced with the SourceWriter version.
>>
>> Repeat s

[LegacyUG] Source conversion

[Geoff Rasmussen]

As we know, the Source Conversion tool is not yet done. I don't know when it
will be. And I've learned that I'm not going to make any statements with the
word "soon" in it. :) I just simply don't know. So...if we do have sources
that we want to convert to the SourceWriter format, we have to manually do
this for now. I'll present the "flow" of how I've been doing mine, which is
not to say that it is the correct method for everyone. Keep in mind that I,
too, am new to this and am open to others' ideas/feedback.

First of all, I personally am NOT going back through ALL of my sources to
convert them to the SourceWriter format. With tens of thousands of
citations, I would never get back to research if I solely concentrated on
this. Rather, when I'm adding new sources, I always use the SourceWriter.
And when I'm currently researching a family that has Basic Style citations,
I work to convert those citations. A citation consists of both the master
source and the source detail. Here is my process for now

1) Open the Assigned Sources list for an individual by clicking on the
Sources icon. Here I can see which existing citations are Basic Style and
which are SourceWriter style. The SourceWriter style citations have a small
black bullet at the beginning in the Source List Name column.

2) When I locate a Basic Style source in this list, I click on it so it is
highlighted. Then I copy/paste the entire Footnote/Endnote Citation from the
Output tab into a Word Processor. I do the same for all of the text on the
Text/Comments tab. I also make note of the Repository and any Pictures. With
this text pasted into my Word Processor, I have everything I need to create
the new SourceWriter source.

3) Using the Source Clipboard, I create the SourceWriter version of this
source, entering all of the pieces into the correct fields, and pasting the
text/comments/etc. from my word processor. If you're not comfortable with
the Source Clipboard, I strongly suggest that you become comfortable with
it. It will change your lifeThe Preview video of the Sources training CD
at
http://www.legacyfamilytree.net/videos/previews/sources/sources_preview.html
teaches how to use the Source Clipboard.

4) Once the Source Clipboard is set up, using the clipboard's single blue
bar button, I locate and click on each Basic Style source in the Assigned
Sources list, and paste the source from the clipboard into the appropriate
event.

5) Each event will now have both the Basic Style source and the SourceWriter
style source. Simply click on the Basic Style source, and click on the
Remove button. Do this until each Basic Style source is gone, and is
replaced with the SourceWriter version.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person who shares the IDENTICAL Basic Style
source (master source and citation).

Maybe there's a better way? I haven't yet experimented with the Combine
button in the Master Source List, but from what a couple of you have
reported, this method doesn't yet do the job.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master Sources

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Gail,

I asked Dave about this last night and this was his response:

"Well, it makes a body think...  I don't think we have even looked at the
combine master sources code on the master source list.  If someone chooses
an old master source (with various detail citations using it) and then
combines it with a new SourceWriter master source, the citations would point
to the new master source but the old detail fields wouldn't be moved to the
new detail fields.  I don't even know how we would do that.  We wouldn't
know where to put the info.  Looks like we need a conversion tool... So,
yes, right now the new detail fields would be blank... with no way to show
the old detail info."

I'll respond in my next email on how I'm converting my sources

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:48 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Old Source Detail associated with newly Merged Master
Sources

I decided to start a new topic here for this question.  I created a
new master source for a census.  Then I merged an existing master
source used by 5 individuals into the new master source.  The master
source looked good and the source detail does seem to have stayed
attached to the new master.

The problem is that, while I can see the beginning of the "old" detail
on the assigned sources screen, I cannot access it to update it.  When
I click "Edit Detail," the new Source Detail template pops up with
empty fields.  I need a way to get to my old data to show up somewhere
so that I can use it to update the new fields.

Am I missing something else obvious?  Geoff, is this how you are
merging sources or are you creating all the new masters with out
merging the old ones in and then re-creating and attaching all the
detail separately?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Source Citation Printing Instead of Full Citation (Version 7)

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Dave B. has confirmed that this is something he needs to take a look at.
Currently, what happens is that the first time the master source is used, it
will use the Footnote/Endnote variation. The second time the master source
is used, even if the detail is different this time, it will only use the
subsequent citation format. So, you're not missing something. Rather, Dave
is working on tweaking this so it works as would be expected.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Connie
Sheets
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:20 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Source Citation Printing Instead of Full
Citation (Version 7)

My apologies if this has been asked and previously answered; I checked the
archives but they are so massive I may have missed it.

I'm a long time Legacy user who has just upgraded to Version 7.  I used the
Source Writer to create a citation to the 1850 census, then went to
print-out a
Family Group Sheet.

The 1850 census is the first citation of several; citation #1 is printing
out
in the subsequent citation format instead of the full citation format.

I've fiddled with my Source settings on both the report options menu and the
customize menu and it seems to make no difference.

Is this a bug, or is there something I'm missing?

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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Geoff Rasmussen]

You're right, that's what I'd suggest.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Connie
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Geoff,
Sounds good to me BUT only if it works as you wrote; whereas the pop up
will ONLY appear if the window has not been scrolled fully to the bottom,
abd NOT if there are fields left blank by us (on purpose) :-)
Connie

-Original Message-

Your experience below has given me what I think could be a good idea. You,
and others have not noticed that there were more fields to be filled in. In
our Merging feature, when comparing two individuals, if there are more
events than will fit on the screen, you can scroll to view them. If you
attempt to merge the two people without scrolling to see all of the events,
Legacy pops up a statement saying "You haven't looked at all of the events
yet. Would you still like to merge the people anyway?"

What do you think about this idea - if you click on the Save button in the
SourceWriter, but there are more fields that you haven't scrolled down to
see, Legacy could pop up a statement/question about the additional fields.
This may prevent us from not noticing the additional fields.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Your experience below has given me what I think could be a good idea. You,
and others have not noticed that there were more fields to be filled in. In
our Merging feature, when comparing two individuals, if there are more
events than will fit on the screen, you can scroll to view them. If you
attempt to merge the two people without scrolling to see all of the events,
Legacy pops up a statement saying "You haven't looked at all of the events
yet. Would you still like to merge the people anyway?"

What do you think about this idea - if you click on the Save button in the
SourceWriter, but there are more fields that you haven't scrolled down to
see, Legacy could pop up a statement/question about the additional fields.
This may prevent us from not noticing the additional fields.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Thanks Dave!  Man, I know it's getting pretty late bacause I just
totally missed the scroll bar on my detail screen!  Now it works
perfectly!!  It's really too bad the fields can't all fit on one page
because I'll bet you that more people than just me are going to
overlook this too.  It might be worth it to try to reformat this a
little in a future update.

Geoff, I apologize for taking up so much of your time on this because
I know you are very busy with other stuff right now.  I think we will
all really appreciate the hard work you have put into this source
writer once we get used to using the input fields.

I still would love it if you could share with us some of the practices
you have used in converting your sources over.  Do you update a single
census master source for a single county and then convert all the
detail associated with that new source, or do you work through all the
master sources first and then work through the myriad details attached
to them?  This is just something that I'm sure would benefit many of
us.  You could sort of bring us along on your learning curve.

Anyway, I can now go to sleep and dream about tomorrow's task ahead of
me in converting at least some of my census sources.  The output looks
good to me now!


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] Tiny Buglet in SourceWriter

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Thanks Jenny,

We do know about this minor problem and will hopefully resolve it soon.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:35 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tiny Buglet in SourceWriter


I have only seen this so far in the IGI template as I have not yet 
investigated the others, but it might well apply elsewhere.

I have entered Source Details for an IGI record and also put some 
information on the Source Text section of the next tab and ticked for 
this to be included on Reports.  On the Output Preview of the Citation 
on the Detail Information tab everything shows correctly, but on the 
Output tab on the Assigned Sources Screen and on a Report there is an 
error in punctuation.

Example:  "... batch no. C070241.; Parents:  Rd Faith & Sarah."

Note the extra full stop or period before the semi-colon which separates 
the last Detail from the Source Text.  If Source Text is not included on 
a Report, the Citation correctly ends with a full stop/period.  (In the 
Output Preview it correctly shows with only a semi-colon between the 
last Detail item and the Source Text.)
-- 
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Geoff Rasmussen]

This is the one I have selected:

Census Records > United States > Federal census records > 1850
population schedule > Online images

Step 2: fill in the master source

Step 3's fields:

Jurisdiction city
Roll
Page
Dwelling no
Family no
ID of person
Date Accessed (must click once on the down arrow to get to this)

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
> source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
> Master Source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -
for
> Geoff
>
> Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
> want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
> There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
> template to provide the accessed date.
>
> The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
> 240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:
>
> Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
> Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
> Schedule: population schedule
> Civil Division: Lake Prairie
> Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
> Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
> Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
> Item Type or Format: digital image
> Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
> URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
> Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
> Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187
>
> Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
> date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
> field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
> preview for the footnote.
>
> Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
> to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
> the source type list to select a different template than the one I
> have described?
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Gail,

I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
Master Source.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.

The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:

Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
Schedule: population schedule
Civil Division: Lake Prairie
Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
Item Type or Format: digital image
Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187

Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
preview for the footnote.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
the source type list to select a different template than the one I
have described?

Gail Rich Nestor
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Gail,

The Recorded Date field is just a field where some people will type in the
date that they either added the source. I've never used it. The Date
Accessed field is in the templates for the online sources. To see it you
might have to scroll down in the list a bit.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Hi Geoff, now I'm a little confused.  On the Master Source Definition
tab for a census, I see a "publish date" field and I see a "recorded
date" field down at the botton of the screen in the gray part.

I see that when I type something in the "publish date" field, it shows
up in the bibliography output (and not beside the accessed date in the
footnote).  When I type something into the "recorded date" on this
same screen, it does not seem to affect the output in either place.


Now moving on to the source detail screen...
When I click to edit the source detail, I see a place to enter a
"recorded" date there as well.  However, this too, seems to have no
effect on the footnote or bibliography output.

I do not see a "date accessed" field at all on any of the screens.  I
am specifically looking at a 1920 US Census template.  Maybe it is on
the others?

Thanks for any explanations to help clear this up for me!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may
be
> confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
> publish date should be the date when the database was published.
>
> I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
> doing it at the county level because of EE's guidelines.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> Hi, well I've finally had a chance to play around with the source
> writer a bit and I am very pleased with the overall results!  With my
> EE book in hand, I have been wading through the templates and starting
> to make some source conversions.  I'm kind of surprised, though, at
> one aspect of the US census template.  I know this has been mentioned
> before in our *very* active list, but I want to revisit the issue to
> see what the future plans might be.
>
> It seems that the formatting for the "accessed date" is set to be
> input at the master source level, rather than the citation detail
> level.  For users who lump their census entries by county or by year
> (like myself), then the date will not be applicable for subsequent
> census findings for different families.  If no date is entered in this
> spot, though, the result is an empty space before the closing
> parentheses.
>
> The order of the source output seems to allow for the blending of the
> order of master source components and detail components, so I am not
> sure why we could not give the user the choice of where to include the
> accessed date.
>
> Geoff, how have you been handling this issue with your own data so
> far??  I believe you had stated that you lump master census sources by
> county as well, right?
>
> I am hesitant to convert too many of my census master sources before I
> know how this issue may be addressed.  If I have somehow missed a note
> saying that issue is on a list to be fixed in an upcoming update, I
> apologize for the duplication of notes.
>
> I truly believe this tool is going to help thousands of genealogists
> improve their desire and ability to cite sources more accurately and
> completely!  Kudos to the Legacy team!!
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
> P.S.  Hi there to all my LUG friends who just got back from IGHR
> (Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research) in Birmingham,
> Alabama!
>
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Gail,

The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may be
confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
publish date should be the date when the database was published.

I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
doing it at the county level because of EE's guidelines.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:49 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Hi, well I've finally had a chance to play around with the source
writer a bit and I am very pleased with the overall results!  With my
EE book in hand, I have been wading through the templates and starting
to make some source conversions.  I'm kind of surprised, though, at
one aspect of the US census template.  I know this has been mentioned
before in our *very* active list, but I want to revisit the issue to
see what the future plans might be.

It seems that the formatting for the "accessed date" is set to be
input at the master source level, rather than the citation detail
level.  For users who lump their census entries by county or by year
(like myself), then the date will not be applicable for subsequent
census findings for different families.  If no date is entered in this
spot, though, the result is an empty space before the closing
parentheses.

The order of the source output seems to allow for the blending of the
order of master source components and detail components, so I am not
sure why we could not give the user the choice of where to include the
accessed date.

Geoff, how have you been handling this issue with your own data so
far??  I believe you had stated that you lump master census sources by
county as well, right?

I am hesitant to convert too many of my census master sources before I
know how this issue may be addressed.  If I have somehow missed a note
saying that issue is on a list to be fixed in an upcoming update, I
apologize for the duplication of notes.

I truly believe this tool is going to help thousands of genealogists
improve their desire and ability to cite sources more accurately and
completely!  Kudos to the Legacy team!!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

P.S.  Hi there to all my LUG friends who just got back from IGHR
(Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research) in Birmingham,
Alabama!




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[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - Important Update Instructions

[Geoff Rasmussen]

This message is important to read only if you at any time installed the
pre-release edition of Legacy Charting AND you installed Legacy 7.

Important Update Instructions:

As you may know, Legacy Charting's Pre-Release Edition will expire on June
15, 2008. When you installed Legacy 7.0 Deluxe edition, Legacy was supposed
to "override" the Pre-Release edition of Legacy Charting with the Deluxe
edition of Legacy Charting. Well...it didn't. We've identified the small
glitch and have corrected it.

Therefore, if you installed both the Pre-Release Edition of Legacy Charting
AND you installed Legacy 7.0 Deluxe Edition, you will need to download a
special update.

Before June 15

If you do this before June 15, all you need to do is open Legacy Charting,
click on the Tips & Updates tab, and click on the button in the Updates
section to download and install the new update.

June 15 or after

If you do this on or after June 15, when you try to run Legacy Charting, you
will receive a message that directs you to the Legacy Charting website.
There you will find a link to download the update. Or, just click here to
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[LegacyUG] Evidence Explained (PDF version) now available in the online store

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Just wanted to let you know that in the middle of all the chaos here, we
made a special agreement with Footnote.com wherein we can now sell the PDF
version of Evidence Explained. This is the electronic downloadable edition
of the 885 page book by Elizabeth Shown Mills. Full details are at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/06/evidence-explai.html. 

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[LegacyUG] Legacy 7's Release - An Update

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Thanks again everyone for your patience with us as we get caught up with
everything here. Here's a brief article to let you know where we're at:

http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/06/legacy-7s-relea.html

Thanks,

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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Help sourcing International Certificate of Inoculation & Vaccination Card; Source original copies

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Ann,

I agree with you that the "Artifacts > Privately held" template would be the
one to choose.

I think the template you are looking for regarding the letter is the
"Letters > Historic > Privately held" template.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Help sourcing International Certificate of
Inoculation & Vaccination Card; Source original copies

I have the original of a card that has on the front:
International Certificate of Inoculation and Vaccination as approved by 
World Health Organization and The Pan American Sanitary Organization. It has

the traveler's name, address, DOB typed in and the traveler's signature. 
Below this is Federal Security Agency U.S. Public Health Service For sale by

the superintendent of documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Washington,

D. C. - Price $1.25 per 100 copies. Below this is PHS-731 (IHR) Rev. 12-48
On the back is area for the physician to write in the nature of the vaccine,

date, dose, physician's signature. This has the entries in handwriting.

I did not find what to use in the SourceWriter. I looked at Evidence 
Explained and did not see what might fit. I looked at Passports p. 619 and 
Chapter 3 Archives & Artifacts.

Another problem is EE has very little for when you have the original 
document. I would appreciate ideas on how to source when you have the 
original document. I used SourceWriter for a letter and it enters privately 
held by the person the letter was written to. That person is deceased and I 
have the original. I used the override to change to privately held and my 
name.

Thank you,
Ann Parsons
New Mexico, USA 




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[LegacyUG] RE:

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Shelly,

 

If the transcript of a book was part of a database, you could use the
Internet > Database template.

 

Thanks,

 

Geoff Rasmussen

Millennia Corporation

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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MICHELLE
CROSBY
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:17 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: 

 

Being new to Legacy, I am just now playing with the new feature the
Sourcewriter.  I never really documented my source in any type of

way- here is my question.  On the Iowa Genweb site is the transcript of a
book on Allamakee County Cemetery Records.  This book was

written by Dale P. Woodmansee, 1989.  People have entered his work on the
site.  So would the source be a data base or a book-I plan 

on purchasing the book that was used for the bases of the sourcewriter- and
the book on how to use Legacy- 

How were my source entered in the past- I am a former FTM user and when you
found the source on Ancestry it entered the source for

you- the problem is that if you found a record outside Ancestry, you had to
record a source yourself- in the past, I would make a note where I found the
information.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Shelly





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy7--question on source writer

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Melanie,

 

The Film ID is the repository's method of describing/identifying the film,
such as "FHL microfilm" for the Family History Library. When the Film ID is
not automatically filled in for you by the SourceWriter, there will be some
sample text in the field giving you an idea of what to fill in there. The
FHL Film Number is the actual microfilm number as given by the FHL. The
details should go in the fields in Step 3 of the SourceWriter. In many of
the templates, the v., p., etc. are filled in for you. If those aren't
included, and you want to make the citation more understandable, by all
means, add to it.

 

One thing I like about Evidence Explained is that throughout, Elizabeth
Mills suggests that the citations can be flexible and adjusted depending
upon our needs. Also, just because there is a field, doesn't mean that you
MUST fill it in. They are guidelines to help you be consistent, but we
should be careful that the templates don't run us.

 

Thanks,

 

Geoff Rasmussen

Millennia Corporation

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie
Tucker
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy7--question on source writer

 

I was filling in a source for marriage records with the source writer and
wondered what is the difference between "Film ID" on the source screen and
the "FHL Film Number."  Also, I'm assuming we're supposed to write in v.,
pg. no. etc. so that they are clear on the citation?  Are these the
standards, or should it be vol. pp. etc?

 

Thanks,

Melanie Tucker 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Templates

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Jan,

These will come with time. I'm not going to say "tomorrow" nor "soon". I
think we've learned from that. It could be done now but with a little
thinking. We'll try to get it so it doesn't require any thinking to enter
these. :)

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Bennett
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:31 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Templates

Anyway, now to my question - does anyone know if there are plans to be
able to add templates to the source writer such as UK Census, UK Civil
Registrations etc.
A very giddy Jan




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RE: [LegacyUG] UK sources

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Graham,

Hopefully this next week we'll be creating specific templates for the UK
vital registrations. This will make it easier to format. We'll release this
in a free update.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glove
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] UK sources

Most but not all of my sources entered in V6 are UK specific and include a
number of original birth, marriage and death certificates. I stress these
are originals and not copies. They are hand written, issued at the time of
registration and many have postage stamps affixed and official embossed
marks. These are my sources so when I use SourceWriter I can choose the
source type as 'Birth records' for example and the type of birth record as
'Birth certificate'. However the next question is 'Where is the certificate
held?' My view is that I hold it but at the very least a copy of it can be
found elsewhere. The only choices we have though are 'Held at local/county
level' and 'Held at state/provincial level'. Given the GRO setup in England
I don't see either of these as appropriate although I can see how either
might apply. Will there be any flexibility in the wording or user choice to
create new repository locations?
Graham Love




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RE: [LegacyUG] Charting & Divorces

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Hi Matt,

I know Luc is trying to get Chart Ordering completed right now, but don't
know about the timetable for this. In the meantime, what do you envision for
this? A simple "divorced" phrase or something else?

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Norwood
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Charting & Divorces

Geoff,
Any word on when Divorces will be an option to add to Legacy Charting?  
  Since the request was added to the to do list on the 6th of March, I  
half way expected it to be in the release of Legacy 7?

Thanks,
Matt





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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 clipboard use

[Geoff Rasmussen]

M,

Bring up the source detail is behaving as it always has. In other words,
when the clipboard button is clicked, you have already assigned the master
source, and now you just need to enter the detail information. Maybe you
haven't yet set the clipboard with the master source. Click on the top
button to do this first.

Regarding the 5 different tabs. We actually removed this because 1) it was
hardly used; 2) when it was used, people thought it was supposed to do
something else. Anyways, it was just way too confusing. We've had many
people now thank us for removing this. You can still save/load clipboards
using the save/load buttons. It is these buttons that most people wanted,
and they perform the functions that users thought the 5 tabs were supposed
to perform.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margaret E
Ullman
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 clipboard use 

When I select to arrow to use the clipboard, it goes directly to 'Add Source
Detail'.

I cannot find where to access the 5 tabs to add 5 different sources.

I feel REALLY dumb.  I'm a long time user.  I have read the V7 Manual,
checked on-line.  Spent about 2 hours this AM.

HELP,
M




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RE: [LegacyUG] Training CDs

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Sounds like a fun idea. Well, they're not sold separately, but you might be
able to request individual CDs by calling the 800 number. However, the way
the CD videos were designed is so they build on each other. In other words,
if you wanted to take an all-day seminar on just Legacy, you would begin
with the basics, progress to the next level, and at the end you'll have
everything you need for a strong foundation. So.watching the CDs randomly is
probably okay, but you'll benefit the most by watching them in the order in
which they are listed at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=4. 

 

Thanks,

 

Geoff Rasmussen

Millennia Corporation

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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G OLIVE
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs

 

Geoff,
Is it possible to purchase individual CD's or pick a group of 3-4? Sort of
pick your own bundle?
GO

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We'll get right on it Bob. :)

We took some great pictures of the shipping department today. It is pretty
crazy around here.

Actually, merging, combining, splitting, etc. would make a great CD.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert57P
via Gmail
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


Legacy team,
 
1)
I haven't viewed the training CDs yet, but I have looked at the TOC of
each.  I don't see anything that specifically covers:
IMPORT
MERGE
DUP
IntelliShare
GEDCOM
 
I would think all of these would be related and would deserve their own
section (or even their own CD??).  I know in the old versions, at least
there was a section on GEDCOMS in the BEGINNERs lesson - though I don't
recall if that including merging and such.  Just a thought for a new product
in case you don't have anything to do right now (ha ha ha).
 
Thanks again for all your hard work and good product.
Bob





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RE: [LegacyUG] Training CDs

[Geoff Rasmussen]

We'll get right on it Bob. :)

We took some great pictures of the shipping department today. It is pretty
crazy around here.

Actually, merging, combining, splitting, etc. would make a great CD.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert57P
via Gmail
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs

Legacy team,
 
1) 
I haven't viewed the training CDs yet, but I have looked at the TOC of
each.  I don't see anything that specifically covers:
IMPORT
MERGE
DUP
IntelliShare
GEDCOM
 
I would think all of these would be related and would deserve their own
section (or even their own CD??).  I know in the old versions, at least
there was a section on GEDCOMS in the BEGINNERs lesson - though I don't
recall if that including merging and such.  Just a thought for a new product
in case you don't have anything to do right now (ha ha ha).
 
Thanks again for all your hard work and good product.
Bob





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RE: [LegacyUG] accessed date

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Kirsten,

Yes, it will be as you suggest. We've already fixed the small punctuation
problem for the next update.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirsten
Bowman
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] accessed date

Bill:

That little punctuation glitch is interesting to know about.  Now can you
make a guess at the answer to this:  Since it's a programming quirk, would a
fix installed later be "retroactive" and correct formats of sources already
entered?

Kirsten

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
Bienia
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] accessed date


Janice,
Since this is data that will change with each citation, the accessed date is
included as a field on the Citation details screen, rather than on the
Source screen. It shows up correctly within the parentheses in the final
source-citation.

Note: There is a glitch to be aware of. There is no space after the closing
parenthesis and the following text. Adding a space at the start of the next
element of the citation detail will insert a space there, but it will also
insert an unwanted space in the bibliography. I have reported it via this
list a while ago, so hopefully it will be fixed in due course.

Bill

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

[Geoff Rasmussen]

There were some fundamental changes between the two versions. In the 1997
version, many citations began with the subject (name of the person), such as
your example. Census records also come to mind. The templates in the
SourceWriter were based on Evidence Explained.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:16 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer

It's my understanding that Source Writer is designed to format source
citations according to "Evidence Explained" -- which I don't have.  I
have "Evidence!" from 1997.  I didn't think there would be much
difference, but so far there is.  Since no one's complained til now, I
figure I must have done something wrong.

Example of a death certificate cite from the 1997 book:

Floyd Finley Shown, death certificate no. 59-0224 (1959), Tennessee
Department of Public Health, Nashville.

Cite with Source Writer:

Tennessee Department of Public Health, death certificate 59-0224 (1959),
Floyd Finley Shown; Tennessee Department of Public Health, Nashville.

I haven't found a source yet that's cited the way I would expect.  Is
the 1997 book just plain obsolete?  Am I missing something obvious?  I
know I can keep doing things the way I was "BS" (before Seven), but I
was really looking forward to using the Source Writer.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources - Master and Detail

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Margaret,

 

Let's communicate directly about this off list. Will you please send me a
.pdf of a family group record report and explain to me where you believe
there is an error? Please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Thanks,

 

Geoff Rasmussen

Millennia Corporation

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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markie
Flint Blackmon
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 4:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources - Master and Detail

 

I've always been a "splitter" until now, but with the new V7 Source Writer,
I've been manually converting my sources, specifically census.

I've made one Master Source for the 1850 Carroll County Ohio census and
multiple source details for numerous families scattered about in different
towns in Carroll County.  In the Detail Text field, I put the all the
Household information from the census. 

When I run a Family Group Report that includes source citations with the
same Master Source but totally different details, the source citations at
the end of the report are treated as if they are the same; i.e. the
truncated "subsequent citation" format is used, and the details don't appear
for any citations except the 1st occurrence of the Master.

Does anyone know, if this by design, or a bug?

Thanks much,
Margaret 





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