[newbie] networking two mandrake 10.1 PC systems
I have two PCs sharing the same internet router, which I would like to network together. Both PCs are running mandrake 10.1, but I can't seem to make any network connections. Do I need to install something like samba on both machines? Thanks in Advance Carlton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] networking two mandrake 10.1 PC systems
Carlton Matthew wrote: I have two PCs sharing the same internet router, which I would like to network together. Both PCs are running mandrake 10.1, but I can't seem to make any network connections. Do I need to install something like samba on both machines? Thanks in Advance Carlton Carlton, In a word, yes. Samba is probably your better choice since they will both be connected to the router. NFS doesn't have the same levels of security that Samba has. Go Figure. -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] networking two mandrake 10.1 PC systems
On Thursday 17 March 2005 21:29, Carlton Matthew wrote: I have two PCs sharing the same internet router, which I would like to network together. Both PCs are running mandrake 10.1, but I can't seem to make any network connections. Do I need to install something like samba on both machines? Thanks in Advance Carlton There are a number of ways you can network them together. (This is Linux you just knew there had to be more than one :-) Samba is one way. Other ways are NFS and Fish The simplest IMO is fish. I have a page on it here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Monday 07 March 2005 19:05, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 07 March 2005 22:21, SOTL wrote: Hi All The good news is that I am able to connect from either of my computer to the other by fish. The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log of fish's connection to the other computer. Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this? Thanks Frank Spelling Correction The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log off [out of] the fish's connection to the other computer. Just close the window derek I tried that. Then I open another and I was still connected. I closed Konqueror and reopened that and I was still connected. I log out of the desk top and log back in and I was still connected. I rebooted and I was still connected. I rebooted the computer I was loged into and the connection was broken. Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking - OpenOffice
Hi All Well the positive news is that I am able to connect the two computers and transfer files by fish even though I am unable to log off the computer I am SSH into without rebooting that computer so I have fish working with a slight issues. Next item on the Network agenda is to access the Test Data Base that I have on one box using OpenOffice 1.9 database management program in the other box. You may recall that I have two Mandrake 10.1 boxes connected with a router [Fire wall currently turned off. Fire will to be activated after I figure out DB connection procedure.] Anyway I did the following in this attempt to connect: Opened OpenOffice 1.9 selected new DB and then connect to an existing DB. [Why connect to an existing DB is under Create New DB instead of being under Open is beyond my grasp but that is where it is located.] Anyway a dialog box opens where you can either directly enter the file name or select by browse for the directory where the DB is located you want to connect to. I tried entering: http://branch @192.168.1.3/home/Test-DB I received the folowing notice: The file does not exist. Would you like to create it? I tried entering: fish://branch @192.168.1.3/home/Test-DB And I again received the folowing notice: The file does not exist. Would you like to create it? If anyone knows how to use OpenOffice DB manager to connect to a DB in another computer I would appreciate a little guidance in doing such. Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 11:27, SOTL wrote: On Monday 07 March 2005 19:05, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 07 March 2005 22:21, SOTL wrote: Hi All The good news is that I am able to connect from either of my computer to the other by fish. The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log of fish's connection to the other computer. Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this? Thanks Frank Spelling Correction The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log off [out of] the fish's connection to the other computer. Just close the window derek I tried that. Then I open another and I was still connected. I closed Konqueror and reopened that and I was still connected. I log out of the desk top and log back in and I was still connected. I rebooted and I was still connected. I rebooted the computer I was loged into and the connection was broken. Thanks Frank The ssh protocol (on which fish sits) has two mechanisms to test if the client is still there. TCPKeepAlive - will send packets to the client and will detect if the window has been closed or the computer rebooted. TCPKeepAlive defaults to ON in Mandrake. I think it takes about a minute before tearing down the connection. ClientAliveInterval/ClientAliveCountMax passes encrypted messages to the client to detect if it is still active. In Mandrake this feature defaults to OFF You can see/change the configuration if you look at the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config Where you see a line commented out with a '#' the value shown is the default. If you want to change it remove the '#' and restart ssh service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. You can read all the options for ssh here http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man5/sshd_config.5.php I have been using ssh and fish now for several years, and have never had a need to change the default behaviour. Just kill a fish window when you are finished with it and everything will be fine. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking - OpenOffice
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 12:02, SOTL wrote: Hi All Well the positive news is that I am able to connect the two computers and transfer files by fish even though I am unable to log off the computer I am SSH into without rebooting that computer so I have fish working with a slight issues. Next item on the Network agenda is to access the Test Data Base that I have on one box using OpenOffice 1.9 database management program in the other box. You may recall that I have two Mandrake 10.1 boxes connected with a router [Fire wall currently turned off. Fire will to be activated after I figure out DB connection procedure.] Anyway I did the following in this attempt to connect: Opened OpenOffice 1.9 selected new DB and then connect to an existing DB. [Why connect to an existing DB is under Create New DB instead of being under Open is beyond my grasp but that is where it is located.] Anyway a dialog box opens where you can either directly enter the file name or select by browse for the directory where the DB is located you want to connect to. I tried entering: http://branch @192.168.1.3/home/Test-DB I received the folowing notice: The file does not exist. Would you like to create it? I tried entering: fish://branch @192.168.1.3/home/Test-DB And I again received the folowing notice: The file does not exist. Would you like to create it? If anyone knows how to use OpenOffice DB manager to connect to a DB in another computer I would appreciate a little guidance in doing such. Thanks Frank I have no experience with OpenOffice 1.9 or using it with databases, but I know for sure that http://; and fish:// are not the file types you should be using. If it is a local file the file type will be file:// As I pointed out when you first contacted the list, fish:// is only understood by KDE applications. Open Office does not use it. One method you *can* use with OpenOffice is NFS (Network File System) NFS allows you to mount remote folders as if they were local folders. Open Office would not even be aware the database was remote. (If the remote database was MySQL then it would not need to be mounted at all. Open Office could connect to it directly) To set up NFS in Mandrake install portmapper, nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients. On the server edit the file /etc/exports and add lines in the format /home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,root_squash) This line will advertise that the folder /home may be accessed by computers on the 192.168.1 subnetwork for read and write. Note : There MUST be a TAB character after the directory name NOT SPACES The last line must end in new line Then in a root console enter exportfs -ra This will make the share available to other computers. Now in the client open MandrakeControlCentreMount PointsNFS Click the button to search the network. It should find the directories you just shared on the server. Pick a mount point for the folder (normally somewhere under /mnt ) When you boot the client it will by default automatically connect to the server. If the server is down at boot time you will have to mount it manually. There is a tool in KDE to do this MenuSystemMonitoringKwikDisk an applet will appear in the Quickstart menu. NFS is notoriously insecure and should not be used on a non trusted network. NFS is also VERY particular about file attributes. If a file does not have public permission (777) then the UID (User) and GID (Group) numbers of users on the two computers must match or else you will not be able to read the file. For example on this computer my username is derek and my UID:GID numbers are 501:501 If the remote computer has files owned by user derek with UID:GID of 502:502 I would not be able to read those files over NFS. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking - OpenOffice
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 15:12, SOTL wrote: On Tuesday 08 March 2005 08:10, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 08 March 2005 12:02, SOTL wrote: To set up NFS in Mandrake install portmapper, nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients. On the server edit the file /etc/exports and add lines in the format /home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,root_squash) My principal issue with making fish work was having all the correct packages installed. Once I had them installed fish worked. I have verified that I have nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients installed but I am unable to verify the existence of portmapper as being installed or not installed. Is it possible that this package mascaraed under another name or is included with a package under another name in the Mandrake 10.1 distribution? urpmi portmap Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Hi All The good news is that I am able to connect from either of my computer to the other by fish. The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log of fish's connection to the other computer. Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this? Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Hi All The good news is that I am able to connect from either of my computer to the other by fish. The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log of fish's connection to the other computer. Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this? Thanks Frank Spelling Correction The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log off [out of] the fish's connection to the other computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Monday 07 March 2005 22:21, SOTL wrote: Hi All The good news is that I am able to connect from either of my computer to the other by fish. The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log of fish's connection to the other computer. Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this? Thanks Frank Spelling Correction The bad fish news is that I do not understand how to log off [out of] the fish's connection to the other computer. Just close the window derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Sunday 27 February 2005 16:47, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: SOTL wrote: Hi All Help ! Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now. I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as follows: MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1 HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2 IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1 I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing the CD reader with a DVD reader. From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using 192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9. I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate. So, numbers work; names do not work. You need to put the names in /etc/hosts is each box, or run a name server on the lan. YOu may want to look at the tmdns package - I have not used it, or even done more then look at the description of the package, but it looks like it may be fore networks like yours. This issue has not been address yes as I was playing with setting up a wireless router to replace the hub. Once router is finished I will return to name addressing. I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by using the following: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was not able to access any box by fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory deleted as irrelevant issue solved For networking problems, looking in the logs in /var/log is a good lace to start. Especialy on the machine you are trying to connect to. A lot of the time, you will see a message telling you why the connection was not allowed. Firewalls can make things especialy interesting. You can say that again about firewalls making things especially interesting. I found that the MSI box that I could connect to by fish by SSH did not have a firewall as I intended when I set it up. I did not check status of HP as that currently has a test setup in it that will be eliminated once I have the MSI and IBM boxes working as needed. I found that the box I was NOT able to SSH into DID HAVE a fire wall installed. Wonder when and how I managed to install it as I do not like firewalls in computers I am experimenting with; they are nice for security but hell on problem solving when the issue is NOT involved with security. Anyway having NO knowledge of ip tables I have attached mine as I believe the box should have a firewall. The ip tables is followed by an additional questions. __ # $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.69 2004/05/23 23:59:53 dtucker Exp $ # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See # sshd_config(5) for more information. # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. #Port 22 #Protocol 2,1 Protocol 2 #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: # HostKey for protocol version 1 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key # HostKeys for protocol version 2 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key #KeyRegenerationInterval 1h #ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging #SyslogFacility AUTH #LogLevel INFO # Authentication: #LoginGraceTime 2m PermitRootLogin no #StrictModes yes #MaxAuthTries 6 #RSAAuthentication yes #PubkeyAuthentication yes #AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys __ Question: Does anyone see a issue with this setup that would prevent my connecting to this box by ssh and thus fish? In particular should #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 be uncommented? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
SOTL wrote: On Sunday 27 February 2005 16:47, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: ---[ SNIP ]- For networking problems, looking in the logs in /var/log is a good lace to start. Especialy on the machine you are trying to connect to. A lot of the time, you will see a message telling you why the connection was not allowed. Firewalls can make things especialy interesting. You can say that again about firewalls making things especially interesting. I found that the MSI box that I could connect to by fish by SSH did not have a firewall as I intended when I set it up. I did not check status of HP as that currently has a test setup in it that will be eliminated once I have the MSI and IBM boxes working as needed. I found that the box I was NOT able to SSH into DID HAVE a fire wall installed. Wonder when and how I managed to install it as I do not like firewalls in computers I am experimenting with; they are nice for security but hell on problem solving when the issue is NOT involved with security. Anyway having NO knowledge of ip tables I have attached mine as I believe the box should have a firewall. The ip tables is followed by an additional questions. __ # $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.69 2004/05/23 23:59:53 dtucker Exp $ # This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file. See # sshd_config(5) for more information. # This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin # The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with # OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where # possible, but leave them commented. Uncommented options change a # default value. #Port 22 #Protocol 2,1 Protocol 2 #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: # HostKey for protocol version 1 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key # HostKeys for protocol version 2 HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key # Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key #KeyRegenerationInterval 1h #ServerKeyBits 768 # Logging #obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging #SyslogFacility AUTH #LogLevel INFO # Authentication: #LoginGraceTime 2m PermitRootLogin no #StrictModes yes #MaxAuthTries 6 #RSAAuthentication yes #PubkeyAuthentication yes #AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys __ Question: Does anyone see a issue with this setup that would prevent my connecting to this box by ssh and thus fish? In particular should #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 be uncommented? Thanks First of all, this is your ssh server config, not IP tables. It looks like the default setup, and should not be a problem. You firewall is probably controlled by shorewall. The config files it uses are in /etc/shorewall. If I remember right, this network uses dialup to connect to the Internet. If so, you can turn off the firewall on the machines not connected to the Internet for now. AS root, run: service shorewall stop service iptables stop chkconfig shorewall off chkconfig iptables off For testing, you can run the service stop commands on the dialup machine when it is not connected to the Internet, and run them with start to turn things back on later. You firewall was set up during installation, and is based on the security level you picked. If I remember right, anything above normal will block incomming ssh connections. Others on the list can give you options for a better GUI firewall setup then shorewall, when you are ready for the firewall... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Hi All Please disregard following help request. Issue disappeared when I realized that problem was caused by jarring box with my foot causing HD drive not to be fully connected. Box is test setup with sliding drawers in it so HD may be easily setting on floor by my desk in position where foot may accidentally hit HD drawer. Which is apparently what happened. Thanks for all previous help. Frank On Sunday 27 February 2005 15:46, SOTL wrote: Hi All Help ! Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now. I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as follows: MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1 HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2 IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1 I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing the CD reader with a DVD reader. From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using 192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9. I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate. So, numbers work; names do not work. I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by using the following: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was not able to access any box by fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory So, one function apparently correctly two did not function as expected. I checked packages for the IBM and HP against the MSI. The MSI and IBM have the following packages installed: kdeutils-kdessh openssh openssh-askpass openssh-askpass-gnome openssh-client openssh-server scanssh sshd-monitor The HP package are somewhat different and due to inadequate notes I may not have the content exactly correct so we will skip that at this time. First Question: Are there other packages that are required to ssh into a box that I do not have listed above? Second Question: If there are no additional packages required why does one work [of sorts] and one not? That above [of sorts] is important as after completing I left work went home did laundry and returned to work to attempt to make the other two boxes work. Firing up all 3 computers the 2 which I was not able to access by fish came up normal and functioned normal. The MSi box which I was able to access by fish came up with video up to 3/4 way through KDE boot at which time it lost video and maybe key and mouse too as they did not appear to be functioning either. I shut the box down by turning power off [bad practice] since I appear to have no control of box. I repeated the above several times with identical results. I attempted to access box by fish and was able to do so. I placed Mandrake 10.1 disk in DVD drive and did an upgrade. Booting box after upgrade I still got blank screen and most possible no mouse and no keyboard. Third Question: How does one go about establishing why, how issue develops and how does one repair? Thanks Frank /etc/hosts is a system file and can only be edited by root user. If you are in KDE hit Alt+F2 and enter 'kdesu konqueror' to get a root copy of konqueror file manager. If your IP address does keep changing, then it may be more convenient to use samba instead of fish. Samba allows you to join a Windows network, and you can pass files between both Windows and Linux computers. Since I would imagine part of my ping issue is that hostname is not set and user name may not be [not sure if user name is same as login user or if this is different user name] lets tackle username and host name first. How do I set them up? The user name is the login name. derek Thanks for the help Frank HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Monday 28 February 2005 05:44 am, SOTL wrote: Hi All Please disregard following help request. Issue disappeared when I realized that problem was caused by jarring box with my foot causing HD drive not to be fully connected. Box is test setup with sliding drawers in it so HD may be easily setting on floor by my desk in position where foot may accidentally hit HD drawer. Which is apparently what happened. Raising the box off the floor solves a lot of problems dust dirt etc. Thanks for all previous help. Frank On Sunday 27 February 2005 15:46, SOTL wrote: Hi All Help ! Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now. I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as follows: MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1 HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2 IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1 I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing the CD reader with a DVD reader. From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using 192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9. I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate. So, numbers work; names do not work. I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by using the following: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was not able to access any box by fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory So, one function apparently correctly two did not function as expected. I checked packages for the IBM and HP against the MSI. The MSI and IBM have the following packages installed: kdeutils-kdessh openssh openssh-askpass openssh-askpass-gnome openssh-client openssh-server scanssh sshd-monitor The HP package are somewhat different and due to inadequate notes I may not have the content exactly correct so we will skip that at this time. First Question: Are there other packages that are required to ssh into a box that I do not have listed above? Second Question: If there are no additional packages required why does one work [of sorts] and one not? That above [of sorts] is important as after completing I left work went home did laundry and returned to work to attempt to make the other two boxes work. Firing up all 3 computers the 2 which I was not able to access by fish came up normal and functioned normal. The MSi box which I was able to access by fish came up with video up to 3/4 way through KDE boot at which time it lost video and maybe key and mouse too as they did not appear to be functioning either. I shut the box down by turning power off [bad practice] since I appear to have no control of box. I repeated the above several times with identical results. I attempted to access box by fish and was able to do so. I placed Mandrake 10.1 disk in DVD drive and did an upgrade. Booting box after upgrade I still got blank screen and most possible no mouse and no keyboard. Third Question: How does one go about establishing why, how issue develops and how does one repair? Thanks Frank /etc/hosts is a system file and can only be edited by root user. If you are in KDE hit Alt+F2 and enter 'kdesu konqueror' to get a root copy of konqueror file manager. If your IP address does keep changing, then it may be more convenient to use samba instead of fish. Samba allows you to join a Windows network, and you can pass files between both Windows and Linux computers. Since I would imagine part of my ping issue is that hostname is not set and user name may not be [not sure if user name is same as login user or if this is different user name] lets tackle username and host name first. How do I set them up? The user name is the login name. derek Thanks for the help Frank HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 28 Feb 2005 13:44, SOTL wrote: Hi All Please disregard following help request. Issue disappeared when I realized that problem was caused by jarring box with my foot causing HD drive not to be fully connected. Box is test setup with sliding drawers in it so HD may be easily setting on floor by my desk in position where foot may accidentally hit HD drawer. Which is apparently what happened. Well, it makes a change from pebcak - pebcadof! :-) Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCI1VfkFAvMr/nNX8RAibzAJ9wpLCjqqDb5wyx7H9PghacqC5iXACfdGaO OFAMJUXa8eCwyMWTFCQkSPU= =Y/rO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Hi All Help ! Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now. I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as follows: MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1 HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2 IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1 I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing the CD reader with a DVD reader. From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using 192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9. I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate. So, numbers work; names do not work. I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by using the following: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was not able to access any box by fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory So, one function apparently correctly two did not function as expected. I checked packages for the IBM and HP against the MSI. The MSI and IBM have the following packages installed: kdeutils-kdessh openssh openssh-askpass openssh-askpass-gnome openssh-client openssh-server scanssh sshd-monitor The HP package are somewhat different and due to inadequate notes I may not have the content exactly correct so we will skip that at this time. First Question: Are there other packages that are required to ssh into a box that I do not have listed above? Second Question: If there are no additional packages required why does one work [of sorts] and one not? That above [of sorts] is important as after completing I left work went home did laundry and returned to work to attempt to make the other two boxes work. Firing up all 3 computers the 2 which I was not able to access by fish came up normal and functioned normal. The MSi box which I was able to access by fish came up with video up to 3/4 way through KDE boot at which time it lost video and maybe key and mouse too as they did not appear to be functioning either. I shut the box down by turning power off [bad practice] since I appear to have no control of box. I repeated the above several times with identical results. I attempted to access box by fish and was able to do so. I placed Mandrake 10.1 disk in DVD drive and did an upgrade. Booting box after upgrade I still got blank screen and most possible no mouse and no keyboard. Third Question: How does one go about establishing why, how issue develops and how does one repair? Thanks Frank /etc/hosts is a system file and can only be edited by root user. If you are in KDE hit Alt+F2 and enter 'kdesu konqueror' to get a root copy of konqueror file manager. If your IP address does keep changing, then it may be more convenient to use samba instead of fish. Samba allows you to join a Windows network, and you can pass files between both Windows and Linux computers. Since I would imagine part of my ping issue is that hostname is not set and user name may not be [not sure if user name is same as login user or if this is different user name] lets tackle username and host name first. How do I set them up? The user name is the login name. derek Thanks for the help Frank HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
SOTL wrote: Hi All Help ! Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now. I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as follows: MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1 HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2 IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1 I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing the CD reader with a DVD reader. From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using 192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9. I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate. So, numbers work; names do not work. You need to put the names in /etc/hosts is each box, or run a name server on the lan. YOu may want to look at the tmdns package - I have not used it, or even done more then look at the description of the package, but it looks like it may be fore networks like yours. I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by using the following: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was not able to access any box by fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory So, one function apparently correctly two did not function as expected. I checked packages for the IBM and HP against the MSI. The MSI and IBM have the following packages installed: kdeutils-kdessh openssh openssh-askpass openssh-askpass-gnome openssh-client openssh-server scanssh sshd-monitor The HP package are somewhat different and due to inadequate notes I may not have the content exactly correct so we will skip that at this time. First Question: Are there other packages that are required to ssh into a box that I do not have listed above? On the box you want to ssh into, you need the openssh-server and openssh packages, and the libs they are dependant on. You also need to start the sshd daemon running. It is not started by default. chkconfig sshd on service sshd start Second Question: If there are no additional packages required why does one work [of sorts] and one not? That above [of sorts] is important as after completing I left work went home did laundry and returned to work to attempt to make the other two boxes work. Firing up all 3 computers the 2 which I was not able to access by fish came up normal and functioned normal. The MSi box which I was able to access by fish came up with video up to 3/4 way through KDE boot at which time it lost video and maybe key and mouse too as they did not appear to be functioning either. If the screen just went black, then you may have to tweek the monitor settings. Maybe decrease the number of colors, or resulation. This is usualy caused by trying to use higher settings then the monitor supports. (This is a big improvment from the older monitors - they would let out all the magc smoke if you did that!) I shut the box down by turning power off [bad practice] since I appear to have no control of box. You may be able to get the box to reboot using Ctrl-Alt-DEL - it takes a bit, because it does a controlled shutdown/reboot. You may also be able to get a CLI login prompt by hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1. I repeated the above several times with identical results. I attempted to access box by fish and was able to do so. I placed Mandrake 10.1 disk in DVD drive and did an upgrade. Booting box after upgrade I still got blank screen and most possible no mouse and no keyboard. Third Question: How does one go about establishing why, how issue develops and how does one repair? Thanks Frank For networking problems, looking in the logs in /var/log is a good lace to start. Especialy on the machine you are trying to connect to. A lot of the time, you will see a message telling you why the connection was not allowed. Firewalls can make things especialy interesting. For X problems, trying a lower resulation setting, and/or less colors is a good place to start. Booting to run level 3, and running tools like drakxconfig is a good place to start. You can tweek settings, and try them out without having to reboot. When it comes to things like being able to access a machine by IP address, but not name, you have to learn about DNS, and how it works. I don't know how to give a short and simple explination on how to troubleshoot it. When you tell a machine to connect to another machine, it has to translate the name you give it to an
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Sunday 27 February 2005 16:47, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: SOTL wrote: Hi All Help ! Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now. I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as follows: MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1 HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2 IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1 I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing the CD reader with a DVD reader. From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using 192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9. I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate. So, numbers work; names do not work. You need to put the names in /etc/hosts is each box, or run a name server on the lan. YOu may want to look at the tmdns package - I have not used it, or even done more then look at the description of the package, but it looks like it may be fore networks like yours. I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by using the following: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was not able to access any box by fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI box using fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory So, one function apparently correctly two did not function as expected. I checked packages for the IBM and HP against the MSI. The MSI and IBM have the following packages installed: kdeutils-kdessh openssh openssh-askpass openssh-askpass-gnome openssh-client openssh-server scanssh sshd-monitor The HP package are somewhat different and due to inadequate notes I may not have the content exactly correct so we will skip that at this time. First Question: Are there other packages that are required to ssh into a box that I do not have listed above? On the box you want to ssh into, you need the openssh-server and openssh packages, and the libs they are dependant on. You also need to start the sshd daemon running. It is not started by default. chkconfig sshd on service sshd start Second Question: If there are no additional packages required why does one work [of sorts] and one not? That above [of sorts] is important as after completing I left work went home did laundry and returned to work to attempt to make the other two boxes work. Firing up all 3 computers the 2 which I was not able to access by fish came up normal and functioned normal. The MSi box which I was able to access by fish came up with video up to 3/4 way through KDE boot at which time it lost video and maybe key and mouse too as they did not appear to be functioning either. If the screen just went black, then you may have to tweek the monitor settings. Maybe decrease the number of colors, or resulation. This is usualy caused by trying to use higher settings then the monitor supports. (This is a big improvment from the older monitors - they would let out all the magc smoke if you did that!) I shut the box down by turning power off [bad practice] since I appear to have no control of box. You may be able to get the box to reboot using Ctrl-Alt-DEL - it takes a bit, because it does a controlled shutdown/reboot. You may also be able to get a CLI login prompt by hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1. I repeated the above several times with identical results. I attempted to access box by fish and was able to do so. I placed Mandrake 10.1 disk in DVD drive and did an upgrade. Booting box after upgrade I still got blank screen and most possible no mouse and no keyboard. Third Question: How does one go about establishing why, how issue develops and how does one repair? Thanks Frank For networking problems, looking in the logs in /var/log is a good lace to start. Especialy on the machine you are trying to connect to. A lot of the time, you will see a message telling you why the connection was not allowed. Thanks for the information on where to look. I found the following in my auth.log file Sorry but I have no idea of what it means. Feb 27 15:05:00 Big_Nate sshd[13832]: Did not receive identification string from :::127.0.0.1 Firewalls can make things especialy interesting. Firewall for all 3 boxes are set to standard which I believe is off. There is NO firewall/router being used
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Thursday 24 February 2005 20:12, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 25 February 2005 00:17, SOTL wrote: Hi All As a user not a geek I have worked with and used Linux for some time but until recently I have not had the opportunity of using my computers on anything but dial up internet connections. Currently I have that opportunity. I would purchase a book on networking except that I have several older ones which did not help when I attempted networking several years ago. Likewise I find on line Howtos impossible since there are so many contradictory ones addressing different issues. What I would like to do is network 2 linux computers so that one may copy files from one to the other and possible other connections later such as storing a data base on one that may be read by another. Physically what I have is 2 computers 1 running Mandrake 10.1 and 1 running Mandrake 9.2 [sorry this computer can not be upgraded to 10.1 with current hardware and my current knowledge as that would mean network installation or the purchase of additional hardware or CDs] connected together with a hub which is also connected to an eithernet RJ45 line and the internet. I doubt very much if your hub is directly connected to the internet. You mean it connects to a DSL modem or router? Both computers seem to work, so they must both have IP addresses, and something is performing NAT (Network Address Translation) or else they could not both work at the same time. Can you be more specific please? Local LAN is not mine, nor do I currently have access to which previously I did so I am going from memory. Earhernet line from ISP goes as you suggested to DSL modem which in tern is connected to [if I understand correctly] a switch [which could be a hub] which splits into 4 or 5 computer connections and to at least one additional switch [or hub]. Here is where I am vague. One of the lines from one of the first or second [I know not which] goes to a wireless router which is used to transmit signal from main building to secondary building where my current office is. Signal from wireless router is at that point picked up by internal wireless cards in 3 computers and by my wireless bridge. Bridge is connected to my 2 test computers with Mandrake 10.1 and Mandrake 9.2. Each computer has internet capability and is fully operational in that I can and do get web sites and e-mail to and from each. Neither computer can ping the other. If you have enabled the shorewall firewall then pings are disabled by default. If you want to enable ping put ACCEPTnet fw icmp8 into /etc/shorewall/rules and restart shorewall Fire wall was set to default in both computers at time of installation. Does that mean I have shorewall Installed and need the above modification. I just checked configuration on 10.1; firewall is set to off. Not certain on 9.2 box at this time but believe it to be same as 10.1 box. First question: Do I need to install share? [Mandrake Control Center - Network Internet - Internet connection Sharing] No If you want to share files between Linux computers and you are a KDE user the 'fish' protocol is ideal. See http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html As I understand the instructions I need SSH running on both computers and I access remote computer by: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory Here is where my lack of knowledge of Mandrake and linux enters. I have not set up either SSH or hostname. SSH may be set if and only if it was set automatically during installation. Since I would imagine part of my ping issue is that hostname is not set and user name may not be [not sure if user name is same as login user or if this is different user name] lets tackle username and host name first. How do I set them up? derek Thanks for the help Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Friday 25 February 2005 12:37, SOTL wrote: I doubt very much if your hub is directly connected to the internet. You mean it connects to a DSL modem or router? Both computers seem to work, so they must both have IP addresses, and something is performing NAT (Network Address Translation) or else they could not both work at the same time. Can you be more specific please? Local LAN is not mine, nor do I currently have access to which previously I did so I am going from memory. Earhernet line from ISP goes as you suggested to DSL modem which in tern is connected to [if I understand correctly] a switch [which could be a hub] which splits into 4 or 5 computer connections and to at least one additional switch [or hub]. Here is where I am vague. One of the lines from one of the first or second [I know not which] goes to a wireless router which is used to transmit signal from main building to secondary building where my current office is. Signal from wireless router is at that point picked up by internal wireless cards in 3 computers and by my wireless bridge. Bridge is connected to my 2 test computers with Mandrake 10.1 and Mandrake 9.2. OK, So I imagine you are getting your IP addresses from your company DHCP server. If you look at the connection info in Mandrake Control Centre you should be able to see your IP addresses. SNIP Fire wall was set to default in both computers at time of installation. Does that mean I have shorewall Installed and need the above modification. I just checked configuration on 10.1; firewall is set to off. Not certain on 9.2 box at this time but believe it to be same as 10.1 box. If the Firewall GUI in MandrakeControl Centre is set to 'Off' then shorewall is either not installed or active and you do not need this modification. When the firewall is off each computer should respond to a ping if you give the correct IP addresses. No If you want to share files between Linux computers and you are a KDE user the 'fish' protocol is ideal. See http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html As I understand the instructions I need SSH running on both computers and I access remote computer by: fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory Here is where my lack of knowledge of Mandrake and linux enters. I have not set up either SSH or hostname. SSH may be set if and only if it was set automatically during installation. To install ssh use the MandrakeControlCentreSoftwareInstall GUI and install the packages openssh and openssh-clients It will start running automatically. (You can confirm it is running in MCCSystemServices) You can use fish with either fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory Your Hostname is set in MandrakeControlCentreNetworkInternet access If you want to use hostnames to connect to a remote computer your Computer needs to be able to translate host names into IP addresses. You may have a company DNS server which can do that for you, or else if your IP addresses never changes you can put an entry in the file /etc/hosts which matches IP addresses to host names. /etc/hosts has the format ip_address hostname1 hostname2 where hostname1 and hostname2 are alternative hostnames for the same computer. /etc/hosts is a system file and can only be edited by root user. If you are in KDE hit Alt+F2 and enter 'kdesu konqueror' to get a root copy of konqueror file manager. If your IP address does keep changing, then it may be more convenient to use samba instead of fish. Samba allows you to join a Windows network, and you can pass files between both Windows and Linux computers. Since I would imagine part of my ping issue is that hostname is not set and user name may not be [not sure if user name is same as login user or if this is different user name] lets tackle username and host name first. How do I set them up? The user name is the login name. derek Thanks for the help Frank HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Friday 25 February 2005 08:28, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 25 February 2005 12:37, SOTL wrote: snip OK, So I imagine you are getting your IP addresses from your company DHCP server. If you look at the connection info in Mandrake Control Centre you should be able to see your IP addresses. SNIP I can not check this at this time as the 9.2 box has a monitor issue which is simple but a pain in the ass. To install ssh use the MandrakeControlCentreSoftwareInstall GUI and install the packages openssh and openssh-clients It will start running automatically. (You can confirm it is running in MCCSystemServices) For SSH I have the following installed: kdeutils-kdessh-3.2.3-28mdk openssh-3.9p1-3mdk openssh-askpass-3.9p1.3mdk openssh-clients-3.9p1.2mdk openssh-server-3.4p1.3mdk scanssh-2.0.3mdk sshd-monitor-0.2.2mdk I have not verified operation yet. That I will have to do later. You can use fish with either fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory I can NOT find kio_fish when I check for installed package or for packages that I have NOT installed yet. I am thus assuming that this package was not included with Mandrake 10.1 or that I am not searching for the correct package. Before I download a tar file from KDE and attempt to install please verify that kio_fish is not hiding is some package by another name. Also how do I verify that I do or do not have the package running. Above check was made by install and uninstall packages in software management. Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Friday 25 February 2005 15:58, SOTL wrote: SNIP I can NOT find kio_fish when I check for installed package or for packages that I have NOT installed yet. I am thus assuming that this package was not included with Mandrake 10.1 or that I am not searching for the correct package. Before I download a tar file from KDE and attempt to install please verify that kio_fish is not hiding is some package by another name. Also how do I verify that I do or do not have the package running. Above check was made by install and uninstall packages in software management. Thanks Frank The plugin is installed by default in Mandrake 9.2 onwards The kio_fish plugin is already part of your KDE. You do not need to download/install anything as you will see if you use urpmf $ urpmf kio_fish libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.la libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.so libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.la libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.so derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Friday 25 February 2005 12:24, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 25 February 2005 15:58, SOTL wrote: SNIP I can NOT find kio_fish when I check for installed package or for packages that I have NOT installed yet. I am thus assuming that this package was not included with Mandrake 10.1 or that I am not searching for the correct package. Before I download a tar file from KDE and attempt to install please verify that kio_fish is not hiding is some package by another name. Also how do I verify that I do or do not have the package running. Above check was made by install and uninstall packages in software management. Thanks Frank The plugin is installed by default in Mandrake 9.2 onwards The kio_fish plugin is already part of your KDE. You do not need to download/install anything as you will see if you use urpmf $ urpmf kio_fish libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.la libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.so libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.la libkdebase4:/usr/lib/kde3/kio_fish.so derek Thanks for the good news that Kio_fish is installed and that I do not need to install it. I have not had good luck with installing KDE add-ons in the past so I have learned to ask many apparently basic questions before each and every action. Thanks for the help. Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Networking
Hi All As a user not a geek I have worked with and used Linux for some time but until recently I have not had the opportunity of using my computers on anything but dial up internet connections. Currently I have that opportunity. I would purchase a book on networking except that I have several older ones which did not help when I attempted networking several years ago. Likewise I find on line Howtos impossible since there are so many contradictory ones addressing different issues. What I would like to do is network 2 linux computers so that one may copy files from one to the other and possible other connections later such as storing a data base on one that may be read by another. Physically what I have is 2 computers 1 running Mandrake 10.1 and 1 running Mandrake 9.2 [sorry this computer can not be upgraded to 10.1 with current hardware and my current knowledge as that would mean network installation or the purchase of additional hardware or CDs] connected together with a hub which is also connected to an eithernet RJ45 line and the internet. Each computer has internet capability and is fully operational in that I can and do get web sites and e-mail to and from each. Neither computer can ping the other. First question: Do I need to install share? [Mandrake Control Center - Network Internet - Internet connection Sharing] Second Question: How do I set up computers so that they maintain DSL addressing and are able to ping eachother? Third question: Would it be better to use a firewall/router instead of a hub or would that add an unnecessary complication, which I do not need at this time, to my networking attempts [attempts based on past failures]? Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Thursday 24 February 2005 19:17, SOTL wrote: Each computer has internet capability and is fully operational in that I can and do get web sites and e-mail to and from each. Neither computer can ping the other. Does computers have public or private IP addresses? ifconfig from cli and look for inet addr: if number after it lokks like 10.X.X.X or 192.168.X.X then you have private addresses. First question: Do I need to install share? [Mandrake Control Center - Network Internet - Internet connection Sharing] No you do not need it. Second Question: How do I set up computers so that they maintain DSL addressing and are able to ping eachother? They must bee in same subnet and workgroup. Third question: Would it be better to use a firewall/router instead of a hub or would that add an unnecessary complication, which I do not need at this time, to my networking attempts [attempts based on past failures]? Fierwall is allways better linksys router would be a good start. Thanks Frank -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
SOTL wrote: Hi All As a user not a geek I have worked with and used Linux for some time but until recently I have not had the opportunity of using my computers on anything but dial up internet connections. Currently I have that opportunity. I would purchase a book on networking except that I have several older ones which did not help when I attempted networking several years ago. Likewise I find on line Howtos impossible since there are so many contradictory ones addressing different issues. What I would like to do is network 2 linux computers so that one may copy files from one to the other and possible other connections later such as storing a data base on one that may be read by another. Physically what I have is 2 computers 1 running Mandrake 10.1 and 1 running Mandrake 9.2 [sorry this computer can not be upgraded to 10.1 with current hardware and my current knowledge as that would mean network installation or the purchase of additional hardware or CDs] connected together with a hub which is also connected to an eithernet RJ45 line and the internet. Each computer has internet capability and is fully operational in that I can and do get web sites and e-mail to and from each. Neither computer can ping the other. First question: Do I need to install share? [Mandrake Control Center - Network Internet - Internet connection Sharing] Not to get them talking to each other. You may want to add it later, so that both can access the Internet at the same time, when one is online. Second Question: How do I set up computers so that they maintain DSL addressing and are able to ping eachother? I think you mean IP address, not DSL addressing. You can set up each with a static address. This makes the rest of the setup simple, with the setup you have here. Third question: Would it be better to use a firewall/router instead of a hub or would that add an unnecessary complication, which I do not need at this time, to my networking attempts [attempts based on past failures]? You can do it ether way. It is not hard to set up a system with static IP addresses, and connected using a hub. Using a firewall/router when you are using a dialup connection actualy makes things harder. If you were using DSL or a cable modem, then it would be a good idea. Thanks Frank If you are going to use a hub, here is what I would do. Give each computer a static IP address. Use MCC if you are comfortable with it, or create/edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 if you are more comfortable with that. In ether case, make sure they have different IP addresses in the same netowrk. What I would use is: Computer 1: IP address192.168.1.101 Netmask255.255.255.0 Computer 2: IP address192.168.1.102 Netmask255.255.255.0 Do not set a gateway on ether computer. A gateway is created when you make the dialup connection, and when the dialup connection is down, you do not have a gateway to the Internet. If you want to be able to use names, instead of IP addresses when refering to the two computers, then you will want to add the IP addresses to /etc/hosts. You may also want to add the hostnames in MCC or /etc/sysconfig/networking. The hosts file probably looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost You can edit it to add the hostnames. 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.101 one.localnet one 192.168.1.102 two.localnet two You will probably want more creative names, but that should give you the idea. You will need to assign the IP addresses, and be able to ping the systems before going on two other things. When it comes to file sharing, you have many options. The most common are NFS and Samba. Both will let yo mount directories from one computer on the other computer. If you only run Linux, then NFS will probably work well for you. If you also run Windows, you may want to use Samba, as it will also let Windows computers access directories on your Linux machines. If you are using one of the flavors of SQL for your database, then you can also access the database server over the network, independly of the file sharing. But I think we need to take things one step at a time. Lets get the machines hooked up to a hub or router, and talking to each other. Once they can ping each other, then it is time to work on things like firewall settings, file sharing, SQL servers, etc... Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Friday 25 February 2005 00:17, SOTL wrote: Hi All As a user not a geek I have worked with and used Linux for some time but until recently I have not had the opportunity of using my computers on anything but dial up internet connections. Currently I have that opportunity. I would purchase a book on networking except that I have several older ones which did not help when I attempted networking several years ago. Likewise I find on line Howtos impossible since there are so many contradictory ones addressing different issues. What I would like to do is network 2 linux computers so that one may copy files from one to the other and possible other connections later such as storing a data base on one that may be read by another. Physically what I have is 2 computers 1 running Mandrake 10.1 and 1 running Mandrake 9.2 [sorry this computer can not be upgraded to 10.1 with current hardware and my current knowledge as that would mean network installation or the purchase of additional hardware or CDs] connected together with a hub which is also connected to an eithernet RJ45 line and the internet. I doubt very much if your hub is directly connected to the internet. You mean it connects to a DSL modem or router? Both computers seem to work, so they must both have IP addresses, and something is performing NAT (Network Address Translation) or else they could not both work at the same time. Can you be more specific please? Each computer has internet capability and is fully operational in that I can and do get web sites and e-mail to and from each. Neither computer can ping the other. If you have enabled the shorewall firewall then pings are disabled by default. If you want to enable ping put ACCEPT net fw icmp8 into /etc/shorewall/rules and restart shorewall First question: Do I need to install share? [Mandrake Control Center - Network Internet - Internet connection Sharing] No If you want to share files between Linux computers and you are a KDE user the 'fish' protocol is ideal. See http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking 2 Linux PCs
Le June 7, 2004 08:36 pm, Derek Jennings a écrit : On Tuesday 08 Jun 2004 01:16, Steve wrote: Okay, I am not a network person but, I have two home computers running Madrake 10.0 connected to a D-Link wireless router and I want them to be able to share files on each other. How hard is it going to be to accomplish this and where do I start? Thanks, Steve There are several different ways of doing what you want. Here is one way which is not very common but rather easy. On each computer install the openssh-server and openssh-clients packages. Now on your KDE Konqueror URL line enter fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory where username is a valid user name on the remote computer and hostname is either the IP address or the name of the remote host as defined in your /etc/hosts file. /path/to/directory is the directory name you want to access on the remote host. You will be prompted for a user namepassword of the the remote user. It is possible to configure the system to not prompt for a password. This page explains more http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html derek Also check the information about and install the lisa daemon. In konqueror you can browse your network, click on the machine identified by IP and see the services they offer, be that fish, http, smb or other. Go to Drakconf to configure lisa. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Networking 2 Linux PCs
Okay, I am not a network person but, I have two home computers running Madrake 10.0 connected to a D-Link wireless router andI want them to be able toshare files on each other. How hard is it going to be to accomplish this and where do I start? Thanks, Steve
Re: [newbie] Networking 2 Linux PCs
Steve wrote: Okay, I am not a network person but, I have two home computers running Madrake 10.0 connected to a D-Link wireless router and I want them to be able to share files on each other. How hard is it going to be to accomplish this and where do I start? Thanks, Steve Install webmin on both machines. Export your home dir on each machine and make a nfs share as well on both the machines. Also make a /mnt/xxx dir where the files will be shared. All using webmin. That should do the trick. -- Marek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking 2 Linux PCs
On Tuesday 08 Jun 2004 01:16, Steve wrote: Okay, I am not a network person but, I have two home computers running Madrake 10.0 connected to a D-Link wireless router and I want them to be able to share files on each other. How hard is it going to be to accomplish this and where do I start? Thanks, Steve There are several different ways of doing what you want. Here is one way which is not very common but rather easy. On each computer install the openssh-server and openssh-clients packages. Now on your KDE Konqueror URL line enter fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory where username is a valid user name on the remote computer and hostname is either the IP address or the name of the remote host as defined in your /etc/hosts file. /path/to/directory is the directory name you want to access on the remote host. You will be prompted for a user namepassword of the the remote user. It is possible to configure the system to not prompt for a password. This page explains more http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/kio_fish.html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking 2000/LM10
Thanks to both Joe and Lanman. Now to tell the poor person I asked the question for. Lucky him. :^) On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:22 pm, Lanman wrote: Trevor Rhodes wrote: Hello All, On a dual boot system with Win2000 and LM10 is it possible to access the LM10 partitions from Win2000? If so, can you point me to where I could find the howto's? Regards Trevor Rhodes Trevor; Yes. Go to this link, and download whichever version you prefer, make a point to look at the version with large file support. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm#Download The only other ways to access linux in this case would be through a shared FAT32 partition, or Samba/NFS using another system. Personally, I always set up a FAT32 partition on all my dual-boot systems and remap my email and document folders, as well as OpenOffice location mappings to that partition. It also has the benefit of allowing me to store any linux and windows downloads to that partition, so I always have them available, should I ever upgrade or re-install either OS. Thunderbird has the added advantage of being able to use the exact same email folders for Linux and/or Windows, so that no matter which OS I'm currently using, all my email is available. Sorry if that's not much help right now, but ever since i started doing my setups that way, it's been pretty flawless. HTH. Lanman Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux-Mandrake 10.0 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 = Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu 94C29CF3 === 02:01:13 up 1 day, 1:19, 0 users, load average: 1.52, 1.14, 0.98 -- Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Theoretically pigs can fly if propelled with enough force. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] networking
I think there are posts regarding this on this lists...u may have to search for it. However, if you do need help, maybe you can help by supplying the all the relevant ip addresses of your two PCs and also the DNS and Gateway numbers. - Original Message -From: alex anonymus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:04:41 -0800 (PST)To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] networking hi, i have an AMD athlon 1.1 ghz,,,its a compaq 5004US. my network card is SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI (SMC1211TX), i just installed mandrake9.2 2 days ago with dual boot, however the network doesnt work! i did ipconfig in the console window in xp, and copied down the info... ip adress... subnet mas default gateway... Connection-specific DNS Suffix. : this is all that it gave me for the DNS. I then went to the mandrake config tool, and i wrote in the same ip address, and gateway address...then i went to the linux prompt typed #ifconfig -a the ip addresses were the same as on the xp computer, and the gateway was also the same... i then did #service network restart and the network restarted everything had an ok next to it but i think that only the lo things were working..as when i typed in #service network status or something like that...i dont rmmr now exactly...i only saw lo, not the eth0 in the mandrake computer config tool,,,my network card is up, however the internet connection is NOT working... im not in linux, now, but i think the tool was called samba, using this, i saw the other computeron my network,,,however again the internet isnt working... my router has a built it modem, and it dials by itself...under xp when i set up the network, the cpu automatically detected the lan internet connection. the router is a Dell TrueMobile BaseStation...however I'm almost sure that no drivers are needed, because i connect with a crossover cable, and not a pci-card, like my laptop does. The xp network works perfectly, it was a breeze to set up, i just went and did the set up home networking tool, on both computers and the network and internet worked perfectly... i dont know what is wrong on linux...please help as i have asked this same question on several posts, and nobody has been able to help me so far...so i turn to the linux gurus and experts here oh, btw im networking with mandrake on dual boot with xpand the other computer is windows ME thanx in advance, alexHe who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave. Sir William Drummond Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable. Sidney J. Harris IF WATER WAS VODKA, AND I WAS A DUCK, I WOULD SWIM TO THE BOTTOM AND NEVER COME UP, BUT WATER ISNT VODKA, AND IM NOT A DUCK, SO PASS ME THE BOTTLE AND SHUT THE FUCK UP Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! -- ___ Check out the latest SMS services @ www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
Jason; Try re-doing the network setup in the Mandrake Control Center and set the network card to DHCP. No need to setup a DHCP server or anything like that, since the Dell router is probably providing the DHCP service for you. You may not even need to put in your DNS or gateway information as they could possibly be provided by the router. It's possible that you have an IP conflict if you're using an IP address that the WinME system is using or that the Dell router is trying to pass to another PC. Also, make sure that you disable any firewalls running on the Linux OS ( Shorewall or IPtables ) since they may be preventing any traffic at all, especially Shorewall. Give that a try and get back to us with the results. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking
hi, i have an AMD athlon 1.1 ghz,,,its a compaq 5004US. my network card is SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI (SMC1211TX), i just installed mandrake9.2 2 days ago with dual boot, however the network doesnt work! i did ipconfig in the console window in xp, and copied down the info... ip adress... subnet mas default gateway... Connection-specific DNS Suffix. : this is all that it gave me for the DNS. I then went to the mandrake config tool, and i wrote in the same ip address, and gateway address...then i went to the linux prompt typed #ifconfig -a the ip addresses were the same as on the xp computer, and the gateway was also the same... i then did #service network restart and the network restarted everything had an ok next to it but i think that only the lo things were working..as when i typed in #service network status or something like that...i dont rmmr now exactly...i only saw lo, not the eth0 in the mandrake computer config tool,,,my network card is up, however the internet connection is NOT working... im not in linux, now, but i think the tool was called samba, using this, i saw the other computeron my network,,,however again the internet isnt working... my router has a built it modem, and it dials by itself...under xp when i set up the network, the cpu automatically detected the lan internet connection. the router is a Dell TrueMobile BaseStation...however I'm almost sure that no drivers are needed, because i connect with a crossover cable, and not a pci-card, like my laptop does. The xp network works perfectly, it was a breeze to set up, i just went and did the set up home networking tool, on both computers and the network and internet worked perfectly... i dont know what is wrong on linux...please help as i have asked this same question on several posts, and nobody has been able to help me so far...so i turn to the linux gurus and experts here oh, btw im networking with mandrake on dual boot with xpand the other computer is windows ME thanx in advance, alexHe who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave. Sir William Drummond Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable. Sidney J. Harris IF WATER WAS VODKA, AND I WAS A DUCK, I WOULD SWIM TO THE BOTTOM AND NEVER COME UP, BUT WATER ISNT VODKA, AND IM NOT A DUCK, SO PASS ME THE BOTTLE AND SHUT THE FUCK UP Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!
[newbie] networking two computers.
Hello, I am trying to connect two computers together and share an internet connection. I have been reading over and over again the two following documents: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan.html http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan2.html but despite my best efforts and many tries, I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Sol runs Mandrake 9.2, has two ethernet cards, one connected (eth1?) to the internet via adsl. Terra runs Mandrake 9.1, has one ethernet card connected to Sol via a crossover cable. on both Sol and Terra, I have: # cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.10 sol.lan sol 10.0.0.11 terra.lan terra On Sol, I have: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 201.131.41.10 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 191.161.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0. 201.131.41.10 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 ppp0 I have tried to run the networks configuration wizards on both machines, but I am still very confused as to what IP address I should enter where. The two machines cannot ping each other (ping 10.0.0.10) When I run the internet sharing wizard on Sol, I get the following output in the console: # /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! Stopping CUPS printing system: [ OK ] Shutting down dhcpd: [ OK ] Stopping named:[ OK ] pppoe: no process killed SIOCDELRT: No such process /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! Sol is properly connected to the internet, but I cannot manage to share the connection with Terra. Right now, I don't know where to start to look for the problem. What should I use on Sol and on Terra: DrakConnect, DrakGw or DrakProxy? On Terra, I did the following: Drakconnect wizard lan IP 10.0.011 Mask: 255.255.255.0 Host name: terra.lan zeroconf host name: DNS server: 201.131.41.10 gateway: 10.0.0.10 (I have also tried 191.161.1.0) but no good. I have tried other combinations but to no avail. I have done something obviously wrong? Thanks, Anguo -- UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking two computers.
On Sunday 23 November 2003 16:48, Anguo wrote: Hello, I am trying to connect two computers together and share an internet connection. I have been reading over and over again the two following documents: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan.html http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan2.html but despite my best efforts and many tries, I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Sol runs Mandrake 9.2, has two ethernet cards, one connected (eth1?) to the internet via adsl. Terra runs Mandrake 9.1, has one ethernet card connected to Sol via a crossover cable. on both Sol and Terra, I have: # cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.10 sol.lan sol 10.0.0.11 terra.lan terra On Sol, I have: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 201.131.41.10 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 191.161.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0. 201.131.41.10 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 ppp0 I have tried to run the networks configuration wizards on both machines, but I am still very confused as to what IP address I should enter where. The two machines cannot ping each other (ping 10.0.0.10) When I run the internet sharing wizard on Sol, I get the following output in the console: # /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! Stopping CUPS printing system: [ OK ] Shutting down dhcpd: [ OK ] Stopping named:[ OK ] pppoe: no process killed SIOCDELRT: No such process /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! Sol is properly connected to the internet, but I cannot manage to share the connection with Terra. Right now, I don't know where to start to look for the problem. What should I use on Sol and on Terra: DrakConnect, DrakGw or DrakProxy? On Terra, I did the following: Drakconnect wizard lan IP 10.0.011 Mask: 255.255.255.0 Host name: terra.lan zeroconf host name: DNS server: 201.131.41.10 gateway: 10.0.0.10 (I have also tried 191.161.1.0) but no good. I have tried other combinations but to no avail. I have done something obviously wrong? Thanks, Anguo If sol is connected to the internet: open a terminal as su/root on terra and type: route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx (where xx.xx is sol's IP) Then you'll have to set your nameserver (or find all internet adresses by number) echo nameserver xxx.xxx.xx.xx /etc/resolv.conf (where xxx.xx is sol's IP again) Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking two computers.
On Monday 24 Nov 2003 12:31 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2003 16:48, Anguo wrote: Hello, I am trying to connect two computers together and share an internet connection. I have been reading over and over again the two following documents: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan.html http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan2.html but despite my best efforts and many tries, I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Sol runs Mandrake 9.2, has two ethernet cards, one connected (eth1?) to the internet via adsl. Terra runs Mandrake 9.1, has one ethernet card connected to Sol via a crossover cable. on both Sol and Terra, I have: # cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.10 sol.lan sol 10.0.0.11 terra.lan terra On Sol, I have: # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 201.131.41.10 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 191.161.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0. 201.131.41.10 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 ppp0 I have tried to run the networks configuration wizards on both machines, but I am still very confused as to what IP address I should enter where. The two machines cannot ping each other (ping 10.0.0.10) When I run the internet sharing wizard on Sol, I get the following output in the console: # /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! Stopping CUPS printing system: [ OK ] Shutting down dhcpd: [ OK ] Stopping named:[ OK ] pppoe: no process killed SIOCDELRT: No such process /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! /usr/lib/shorewall/functions does not exist! Sol is properly connected to the internet, but I cannot manage to share the connection with Terra. Right now, I don't know where to start to look for the problem. What should I use on Sol and on Terra: DrakConnect, DrakGw or DrakProxy? On Terra, I did the following: Drakconnect wizard lan IP 10.0.011 Mask: 255.255.255.0 Host name: terra.lan zeroconf host name: DNS server: 201.131.41.10 gateway: 10.0.0.10 (I have also tried 191.161.1.0) but no good. I have tried other combinations but to no avail. I have done something obviously wrong? Thanks, Anguo Thanks HarM for your reply, If sol is connected to the internet: open a terminal as su/root on terra and type: route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx (where xx.xx is sol's IP) Which IP? 10.0.0.10 or 191.161.1.0? The former didn't help and the latter brought the message: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable. Also, I just noticed that I got unsubbed from the list newbie. The archives don't list anything beyond the 15th of november. I just resubbed to the list and yours is the first message I receive from the list. Could you forward other replies I may I received in this thread up to now. Does anyone know of a fully functional mail archives for newbie? thanks, Anguo Then you'll have to set your nameserver (or find all internet adresses by number) echo nameserver xxx.xxx.xx.xx /etc/resolv.conf (where xxx.xx is sol's IP again) Good luck, HarM -- In the news: Microsoft CEO Ballmer gives Linux 'credibility' Microsoft's recent efforts against the Linux operating system only show that the open-source platform is gaining ground. Read more: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-1015174.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking two computers.
On Sunday 23 November 2003 17:50, Anguo wrote: Thanks HarM for your reply, If sol is connected to the internet: open a terminal as su/root on terra and type: route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx (where xx.xx is sol's IP) Which IP? 10.0.0.10 or 191.161.1.0? The former didn't help and the latter brought the message: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable. Well, for one if you need to get your network up and running, get into mcc(mandrake control center) and run the wizard. That way it'll stick after a reboot. If you just want a network connection for terra up for this session or testing: Check what ifconfig says about eth0. If it isn't mentionned: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.11 up (without the quotes as su/root) and then ping 10.0.0.10. If that doesn't return work, check sol for it's IP using ifconfig and if need be setup it's IP in the same way you just did for terra (ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.10 up). Both machines should be able to ping each other now. If not there's something wrong with your crossover-cable or NIC's. If they do ping then do the route add default gw 10.0.0.10 and echo nameserver 10.0.0.10 /etc/resolv.conf again Also, I just noticed that I got unsubbed from the list newbie. The archives don't list anything beyond the 15th of november. I just resubbed to the list and yours is the first message I receive from the list. Happened to a lot of people (the most actually) Could you forward other replies I may I received in this thread up to now. there weren't any:) Does anyone know of a fully functional mail archives for newbie? http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/ Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking two computers.
On Sunday 23 November 2003 11:50 am, Anguo wrote: Does anyone know of a fully functional mail archives for newbie? Anguo: In addition to the mandrake-hosted archives that Harm mentioned, you can find more archives than anyone should ever need at: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com They have this list archived at: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2 -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking
Can anyone here tell me how to turn off the fscking zeroconf crap. I have a DSL router that functions as a DHCP server but mandrake's configuration has bootp, dhcp and zeroconf on the same line. Regardless of what I do, the zeroconf crap always starts first so no IP address gets assigned by the router, therefore no DNS, therefore no network connectivity with anything but the machine itself. Is there anyway to remove the zeroconf while still leaving the rest of the networking intact? Or anyway to specify DHCP so the zeroconf stuff won't seize control? TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:31:23 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: but mandrake's configuration has bootp, dhcp and zeroconf on the same line. where are you seeing this? Is there anyway to remove the zeroconf while still leaving the rest of the networking intact? Or anyway to specify DHCP so the zeroconf stuff won't seize control? TIA Have you tried just going thru the Network wizard in Mandrake Control Ctr? Let it detect your settings itself, it should see LAN, select bootp, and that's it. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel? + Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution + comes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Run drakxservices and turn off zeroconf. Miark On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:20:05 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: but mandrake's configuration has bootp, dhcp and zeroconf on the same line. Is there anyway to remove the zeroconf while still leaving the rest of the networking intact? Or anyway to specify DHCP so the zeroconf stuff won't seize control? TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking questions
Thanks, I'll give it a try! "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 December 2002 10:44 am, you wrote: Hi. I just installed Mandrake 9. Everything seems to be working except The only way to get the dial up connection to work is to first disable the network card. This is a plain Internet dial up to SBC, using a Creative 56k ModemBlaster. I assume it is possible to have both working at the same time since you even do it with Windows! Second, I want to be able to able to browse my Windows 2000 network from the Linux box. Is Samba the way to do this? I have looked at the instructions and it seems quite confusing. Is there any easier way? I just want to be able to retrieve video, mp3s and docs. Thanks!Hi Anthony. I have a Modemblaster as well, with a NIC...works fine here under Mandrake 8.2, but I did have to make some modifications.As root/su I had to go into /etc/sysconfig and edit "network"Mine looks like this:NETWORKING=yesFORWARD_IPV4=trueHOSTNAME=darkforce.comDOMAINNAME=comGATEWAY=GATEWAYDEV=ppp0This was what my old /etc/sysconfig/network file looked like:NETWORKING=yesFORWARD_IPV4=falseHOSTNAME=darkforce.comDOMAINNAME=comI can't remember if I had to do a:service network restartor not.Hope this helps!-- /\Dark Lord\/Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comanthony scottDo you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
[newbie] Networking questions
Hi. I just installed Mandrake 9. Everything seems to be working except The only way to get the dial up connection to work is to first disable the network card. This is a plain Internet dial up to SBC, using a Creative 56k ModemBlaster. I assume it is possible to have both working at the same time since you even do it with Windows! Second, I want to be able to able to browse my Windows 2000 network from the Linux box. Is Samba the way to do this? I have looked at the instructions and it seems quite confusing. Is there any easier way? I just want to be able to retrieve video, mp3s and docs. Thanks!Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
Re: [newbie] Networking questions
On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 02:44, Anthony wrote: Hi. I just installed Mandrake 9. Everything seems to be working except The only way to get the dial up connection to work is to first disable the network card. This is a plain Internet dial up to SBC, using a Creative 56k ModemBlaster. I assume it is possible to have both working at the same time since you even do it with Windows! ...someone can catch the one above - I do it manually and have hacked the scripts to do so because mine did the same and well, I can't have that... Second, I want to be able to able to browse my Windows 2000 network from the Linux box. Is Samba the way to do this? I have looked at the instructions and it seems quite confusing. Is there any easier way? I just want to be able to retrieve video, mp3s and docs. You can edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file, and change the workgroup name there - that will allow you AS A CLIENT to browse your Windows network - now, on the other hand, when you want to use the linux box as a server/peer to the Windows network, there are some other modifications that need to be made in Samba...but for client browsing, that will do you. -- Fri Dec 27 02:50:00 EST 2002 2:50am up 1 day, 17:35, 5 users, load average: 0.67, 0.39, 0.34 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- * linux user:267497 * RH 7.3+ * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- That boy's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver -- Foghorn Leghorn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking questions
On Thursday 26 December 2002 10:44 am, you wrote: Hi. I just installed Mandrake 9. Everything seems to be working except The only way to get the dial up connection to work is to first disable the network card. This is a plain Internet dial up to SBC, using a Creative 56k ModemBlaster. I assume it is possible to have both working at the same time since you even do it with Windows! Second, I want to be able to able to browse my Windows 2000 network from the Linux box. Is Samba the way to do this? I have looked at the instructions and it seems quite confusing. Is there any easier way? I just want to be able to retrieve video, mp3s and docs. Thanks! Hi Anthony. I have a Modemblaster as well, with a NIC...works fine here under Mandrake 8.2, but I did have to make some modifications. As root/su I had to go into /etc/sysconfig and edit network Mine looks like this: NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true HOSTNAME=darkforce.com DOMAINNAME=com GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 This was what my old /etc/sysconfig/network file looked like: NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=false HOSTNAME=darkforce.com DOMAINNAME=com I can't remember if I had to do a: service network restart or not. Hope this helps! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
Another thing to mention about the 192.168.x.x IP addresses is that they are classed as private (non-routable on the Internet). Thus you can use them at home for internal netorks. Depending on the size of your internal network, you can use any of address ranges below. Class A private: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 Class B private: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 Class C private: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 05:24, Bart Salien wrote: snip snip I agree with John s explanation , however 192.x.x.x to my knowledge is a class C network with a default mask of 24 = 255.255.255.0 class B ranges from 128.x.x.x/16 till 191.x.x.x/16 class C ranges from 192.x.x.x/24 till 223.x.x.x/24 For most home networks the default mask will be OK , and there is no need for further subnetting , it will only make it more complicated . Greetings , Bart. Thanks for your response! I guess I should be awake when I start to try to figure out a network :( -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 02:59, John McQuillen wrote: snip There is no reason why you can't use an entire class C network at home for your 2,3 or 4 host network, besides, the private address range in use here is actually a class B (192.168.0.0/16) and there would be no problem using that either. It would just mean that you have one network and shit loads (256^2-2) of unique host addresses available. By using CIDR (Classless Inter Domain Routing) you ignore the native class of the network and adjust the mask to suit your requirements of unique networks/unique hosts. The tighter you make your mask (adding bits to the default class mask), the more unique networks you have available, while limiting the amount of unique hosts that you can have per network. By the way, your example is incorrect. A 29 bit mask (255.255.255.248) will give you 6 possible hosts with 0 being the network address, 6 hosts, and 7 being the broadcast address. The way I like to think of it is in lots of 256. 256-248=8, minus 2 for your network and broadcast addresses and you are left with 6 possible hosts. 256/8=32, so you would be able to have 32 separate networks with 6 hosts each. There is really no need to go to the trouble of subnetting to this extent, however, unless you have need for multiple networks. I hope that my explanation has been understandable :) Regards, John... Thanks, John! I do understand...and like your 'lots' of 256' example. Guess when I am trying to figure out networks, it would help if I was awake:( -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 05:24, Bart Salien wrote: snip snip I agree with John s explanation , however 192.x.x.x to my knowledge is a class C network with a default mask of 24 = 255.255.255.0 class B ranges from 128.x.x.x/16 till 191.x.x.x/16 class C ranges from 192.x.x.x/24 till 223.x.x.x/24 For most home networks the default mask will be OK , and there is no need for further subnetting , it will only make it more complicated . Greetings , Bart. Thanks for your response! I guess I should be awake when I start to try to figure out a network :( -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Sat, 2002-11-09 at 18:12, Erik Farnsworth wrote: On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 10:45, teddy wl wrote: 1.for connecting all your PC you need ethernet card for every PC. configuring the IP address ex. 192.168.1.0/24 if you do not understand the IP you must read the basic of TCP/IP or i sugestion to you, to enter this address for your PC's : PC 1 : 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 PC 2: 192.168.1.2 netmask same above PC 3:192.168.1.3 netmask same above PC 4: 192.168.1.4 netmask same above I'm a little confused here. with the example above (and I admit that I have never worked with a home network that included Windows machines)... I would expect to see: network base address:192.168.1.0/29 or 192.168.1.0 netmask: 255.255.255.248 PC 1:192.168.1.1 PC 2:192.168.1.2 PC 3:192.168.1.3 PC 4:192.168.1.4 broadcast address: 192.168.1.5 I have seen several examples of networking as stated above by Teddy...but don't understand how that setup would be 'legal' (in the networking sense) and would work properly. I would expect a netmask of 255.255.255.0 for each of the machines would indicate that each machine was authoritative for an entire Class C network. I plan to set up my own home network soon (no windows machines, but several linux PCs and a mandrake iMac and an OS X iBook)...and I want to do it correctly, but without 'overkill'. Could someone with networking experience add a few cents to this, please? There is no reason why you can't use an entire class C network at home for your 2,3 or 4 host network, besides, the private address range in use here is actually a class B (192.168.0.0/16) and there would be no problem using that either. It would just mean that you have one network and shit loads (256^2-2) of unique host addresses available. By using CIDR (Classless Inter Domain Routing) you ignore the native class of the network and adjust the mask to suit your requirements of unique networks/unique hosts. The tighter you make your mask (adding bits to the default class mask), the more unique networks you have available, while limiting the amount of unique hosts that you can have per network. By the way, your example is incorrect. A 29 bit mask (255.255.255.248) will give you 6 possible hosts with 0 being the network address, 6 hosts, and 7 being the broadcast address. The way I like to think of it is in lots of 256. 256-248=8, minus 2 for your network and broadcast addresses and you are left with 6 possible hosts. 256/8=32, so you would be able to have 32 separate networks with 6 hosts each. There is really no need to go to the trouble of subnetting to this extent, however, unless you have need for multiple networks. I hope that my explanation has been understandable :) Regards, John... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
1.for connecting all your PC you need ethernet card for every PC. configuring the IP address ex. 192.168.1.0/24 if you do not understand the IP you must read the basic of TCP/IP or i sugestion to you, to enter this address for your PC's : PC 1 : 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 PC 2: 192.168.1.2 netmask same above PC 3:192.168.1.3 netmask same above PC 4: 192.168.1.4 netmask same above If your printer connected into you windows PC, you can configuring Samba in you other Linux PC. and you can use that printer for all PC. for modem, you just one is enough, if your modem connected into you Linux, you can use IP tables to share your modem connection to internet, or if your PC have installed mandrake you can configuring it with mandrake control center, there you can configuring your modem to share the connection to internet. I wish it can help you... i'm sorry my english and i wish you understan what i read Teddy W. Laksono Linux Power :)) --- L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 4 PCs. 3 on dual boot with linux and windows(98 or me)and one win98se. one has built in 8139 lan card. How should I go for networking these? 1)what is the optimum ways if I have to include a few more PCs. Dual boot ones can be made only linux ones. 2)what should I get in hardware? 3)How to go about in configuring software so that peripherals like printer, modem attached one can be used by other and files can be shared? As a newbie in networking i need initiation and advice -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 10:45, teddy wl wrote: 1.for connecting all your PC you need ethernet card for every PC. configuring the IP address ex. 192.168.1.0/24 if you do not understand the IP you must read the basic of TCP/IP or i sugestion to you, to enter this address for your PC's : PC 1 : 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 PC 2: 192.168.1.2 netmask same above PC 3:192.168.1.3 netmask same above PC 4: 192.168.1.4 netmask same above I'm a little confused here. with the example above (and I admit that I have never worked with a home network that included Windows machines)... I would expect to see: network base address:192.168.1.0/29 or 192.168.1.0 netmask: 255.255.255.248 PC 1:192.168.1.1 PC 2:192.168.1.2 PC 3:192.168.1.3 PC 4:192.168.1.4 broadcast address: 192.168.1.5 I have seen several examples of networking as stated above by Teddy...but don't understand how that setup would be 'legal' (in the networking sense) and would work properly. I would expect a netmask of 255.255.255.0 for each of the machines would indicate that each machine was authoritative for an entire Class C network. I plan to set up my own home network soon (no windows machines, but several linux PCs and a mandrake iMac and an OS X iBook)...and I want to do it correctly, but without 'overkill'. Could someone with networking experience add a few cents to this, please? TIA. -- Erik Linux User 288105 = Bill who? Micro what? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking advice
I have 4 PCs. 3 on dual boot with linux and windows(98 or me)and one win98se. one has built in 8139 lan card. How should I go for networking these? 1)what is the optimum ways if I have to include a few more PCs. Dual boot ones can be made only linux ones. 2)what should I get in hardware? 3)How to go about in configuring software so that peripherals like printer, modem attached one can be used by other and files can be shared? As a newbie in networking i need initiation and advice -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking advice
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 12:50, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have 4 PCs. 3 on dual boot with linux and windows(98 or me)and one win98se. one has built in 8139 lan card. How should I go for networking these? 1)what is the optimum ways if I have to include a few more PCs. Dual boot ones can be made only linux ones. If you install/configure SAMBA (SMB) on the linux machines, and use regular Windows networking on the Windoze machines, you should be good to go. As long as you configure them all for the same workgroup... 2)what should I get in hardware? As long as your network cards are compatible cards - linux should pick them up right off the bat. The only hardware you'll need is either a hub or a switch...and how many machines would dictate how many ports you need... 3)How to go about in configuring software so that peripherals like printer, modem attached one can be used by other and files can be shared? As a newbie in networking i need initiation and advice Modem sharing is a wide area - but if you're talking about sharing your internet connection, you can do that from either linux or Windoze...sharing other devices - printers and hard drives - is rather easy in Windoze - but once again, you have to make sure to install/configure SAMBA in order to share with the Windoze machines... -- L.V.Gandhi Cheers! -- Fri Nov 8 13:30:00 EST 2002 |____ | | / \ /| |'-. | | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | | | / \__.`=._) (_ |kuhn media australia | |/ ._/ || |http://kma.0catch.com | |'. `\ | | |stephen kuhn | ;/ / | | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | smk ) /_/| |.---.| |mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | A pig is a jolly companion, Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt -- A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt. When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig, Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig, You'll never go wrong with a pig! -- Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] networking advice
I will be doing home network with two-machine network pretty soon, but don't have real experience yet. However, I found this that looked promising: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Home-Network-mini-HOWTO.html HTH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of L.V.Gandhi Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] networking advice I have 4 PCs. [...] As a newbie in networking i need initiation and advice - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking
Hi All: I've been mostly lurking for two years now, and have (with your guidance) gotten most everything done in Mandrake that I wanted, but. My home network. I have 1 MS ME 586, 1 MS WIN98 586, 2 MS WIN2K 586's, 1 LEXMARK Optra LX+, and 1 MDK 586 all through SMC 7004ABR and DLink routers with another Lexmark Optra LX+ attached and to a Cable internet connection. One 2K is FAT32 and the other is one of each 40 Meg drives. Also assorted printers including and Epson 8000 in there somewhere. Never ever have I had all talking to all. Right now the network printer is not seen by any of the machines although I specifically assigned it to 192.168.2.5. Not a major problem and may be hardware although I see that Komba2 indentifies one of the WIN2K boxes as 192.168.2.5. Anyway I can fix that (Probably) Real Problems: 1. Komba2 displays ?Error returning t:NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED from both WIN2K boxes. 2. With the MDK box, I have not ever had the use of any of the printers that are attached to the other computers or the network, or the one on the parallel port on the router. All except as noted above work fine shared through the Windows boxes. 3. WIN2K boxes say incorrect passwork or unknown username for :\\Supertux when I attempt to browse in that direction. Now that I'm about to upgrade (reinstall actually) to 9.0, I would like to do it right the first time and end up with a network that I can expect to wean off of MS this next year. I am assuming that as I added and subtracted from this mess, I named things and assigned passwords long forgotton, but I don't know how to get it all back to reality short of major surgery. (Not an option, please) I do know all the admin passwords 'cause they're all the same. (It's all my stuff, after all.) All comments graciously appreciated. TIA Lee Registered Linux user #223705 Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
I'm not familiar with Komba, but I do set up Samba networks. In Komba there's probably a place to send your username and password. Make sure that is correct. In your Samba Configuration, I believe you need to tell it to send encrypted passwords. If memory serves me correctly GNU/Linux won't connect to Windows unless you do this. You might try mounting some Windows shares by hand to make sure you can indeed see the Windows box and that Samba is set up correctly. Then once you know it is definitely working, play with any specifics of Komba. Following is a command to mount a Windows share: mount -t smbfs -o username=USERNAME //WINDOWS-IP-ADDRESS/SHARE-NAME /mnt/LINUX-MOUNT-POINT If all is working correctly, you will be prompted for a password before the mount actually occurs. On Sunday 06 October 2002 03:03 am, Lee wrote: Hi All: I've been mostly lurking for two years now, and have (with your guidance) gotten most everything done in Mandrake that I wanted, but. My home network. I have 1 MS ME 586, 1 MS WIN98 586, 2 MS WIN2K 586's, 1 LEXMARK Optra LX+, and 1 MDK 586 all through SMC 7004ABR and DLink routers with another Lexmark Optra LX+ attached and to a Cable internet connection. One 2K is FAT32 and the other is one of each 40 Meg drives. Also assorted printers including and Epson 8000 in there somewhere. Never ever have I had all talking to all. Right now the network printer is not seen by any of the machines although I specifically assigned it to 192.168.2.5. Not a major problem and may be hardware although I see that Komba2 indentifies one of the WIN2K boxes as 192.168.2.5. Anyway I can fix that (Probably) Real Problems: 1. Komba2 displays ?Error returning t:NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED from both WIN2K boxes. 2. With the MDK box, I have not ever had the use of any of the printers that are attached to the other computers or the network, or the one on the parallel port on the router. All except as noted above work fine shared through the Windows boxes. 3. WIN2K boxes say incorrect passwork or unknown username for :\\Supertux when I attempt to browse in that direction. Now that I'm about to upgrade (reinstall actually) to 9.0, I would like to do it right the first time and end up with a network that I can expect to wean off of MS this next year. I am assuming that as I added and subtracted from this mess, I named things and assigned passwords long forgotton, but I don't know how to get it all back to reality short of major surgery. (Not an option, please) I do know all the admin passwords 'cause they're all the same. (It's all my stuff, after all.) All comments graciously appreciated. TIA Lee Registered Linux user #223705 Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
On Sunday 06 October 2002 11:08 am, you wrote: I'm not familiar with Komba, but I do set up Samba networks. In Komba there's probably a place to send your username and password. Make sure that is correct. In your Samba Configuration, I believe you need to tell it to send encrypted passwords. If memory serves me correctly GNU/Linux won't connect to Windows unless you do this. If I remeber corectly this is one of those win problems within a mixed win network, since by default win95 does not encrypt passwords and win nt does. it really winds up being you have no make sure all the boxes do the same thing, and seems to me, with is better than without. You might try mounting some Windows shares by hand to make sure you can indeed see the Windows box and that Samba is set up correctly. Then once you know it is definitely working, play with any specifics of Komba. Following is a command to mount a Windows share: mount -t smbfs -o username=USERNAME //WINDOWS-IP-ADDRESS/SHARE-NAME /mnt/LINUX-MOUNT-POINT (the CAPS to be replaced with you correct information, in a case sensitve format, so to mount MY windows box with the IP 192.168.1.16, and my c:\share folder shared with the name of Share (as setup on that computer allowing file and print sharing on MS network, and having tcp/ip and the permentant IP set in network properties...etc..) I type on one livne without the quotes mount -t smbfs -o username=et //192.168.0.16/Share /mnt/Share and hit enter. I can then browse on over to /mnt/Share and see them files If all is working correctly, you will be prompted for a password before the mount actually occurs. I can then browse on over to /mnt/Share and see them files On Sunday 06 October 2002 03:03 am, Lee wrote: Hi All: I've been mostly lurking for two years now, and have (with your guidance) gotten most everything done in Mandrake that I wanted, but. My home network. I have 1 MS ME 586, 1 MS WIN98 586, 2 MS WIN2K 586's, 1 LEXMARK Optra LX+, and 1 MDK 586 all through SMC 7004ABR and DLink routers with another Lexmark Optra LX+ attached and to a Cable internet connection. One 2K is FAT32 and the other is one of each 40 Meg drives. Also assorted printers including and Epson 8000 in there somewhere. Never ever have I had all talking to all. Right now the network printer is not seen by any of the machines although I specifically assigned it to 192.168.2.5. Not a major problem and may be hardware although I see that Komba2 indentifies one of the WIN2K boxes as 192.168.2.5. Anyway I can fix that (Probably) Real Problems: 1. Komba2 displays ?Error returning t:NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED from both WIN2K boxes. 2. With the MDK box, I have not ever had the use of any of the printers that are attached to the other computers or the network, or the one on the parallel port on the router. All except as noted above work fine shared through the Windows boxes. 3. WIN2K boxes say incorrect passwork or unknown username for :\\Supertux when I attempt to browse in that direction. Now that I'm about to upgrade (reinstall actually) to 9.0, I would like to do it right the first time and end up with a network that I can expect to wean off of MS this next year. I am assuming that as I added and subtracted from this mess, I named things and assigned passwords long forgotton, but I don't know how to get it all back to reality short of major surgery. (Not an option, please) I do know all the admin passwords 'cause they're all the same. (It's all my stuff, after all.) All comments graciously appreciated. TIA Lee Registered Linux user #223705 Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 02:10, Anne Wilson wrote: There is a lot of references on Mandrakeuser and in the archives of this list about setting up Samba and NFS. How does one access these archives? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but there's too much in here to lose. Anne See the links near the bottom of: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/flists.php3 Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Networking
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 07:01, Marcia wrote: I really do not think I need to do internet sharing afterall since my laptop linux is using USB cable internet independently of my desktop which is using the regular cable modem hookup. It seems to be working fine that way however is their a way I can network between the two machines through the cable modem that they are both hooked up to without getting another NIC card for the desktop? I only want to share files between the 2 computers and I guess I really do not need to share the internet afterall. How would I go about this? Do I still need the crossover cable for this? Something tells me yes. Any particular kind or speed, etc? Will I have to use samba for the filesharing after they are hooked up? Thanks for any help here. Sincerely. Marcia --- Hi Marcia, I think Harm's response covers your main question, but maybe I can clarify a little more. - using the cable modem as a hub 1. probably won't be workable 2. depends on the cable network for connectivity and is therefore relatively slow compared with a LAN connection 3. May cost you a lot of money depending on how your usage is charged - the crossed cable you need is a standard cat 5 cable with the wires crossed. easily available at any computer supply and totally independent of your network card - from what you describe and as long as both machines are running linux, you probably don't need internet sharing except that if you use the port on the laptop to connect to a second NIC on the desktopIf you run W$ on the laptop though it really should be behind the linux machine in network terms for security. - when it's all set up, the easiest means of sharing files would be NFS if both are using linux. webmin makes this easy to set up - I mean REALLY easy! - if you need to network also with the laptop running W$, then Samba comes into play. Again, not difficult to set up simple shares, in fact with 8.2, virtually a one click operation. Buy that second NIC and cable! Be convinced! :-) I'm not giving up easily! ;-) Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Networking
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Networking Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 16:58:57 -0400 From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 09 May 2002 02:23 am, you wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2002 8:41 am, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I may set this up? Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia I beleive USB cannot be directly used for networking as it is a parent - child (computer - peripheral) relationship, not peer to peer. Having said that a USB NIC could theoretically exist. Dunno how fast it would be though. NIC's (Network Interface Cards) are as cheap as toothpaste almost anyway. And the correct way to set up a peer to peer network. A slower alternative is the Null modem cable which requires Serial Ports available on both PC's. Confusing or enlightening you... i dunno. Dear All, I really do not think I need to do internet sharing afterall since my laptop linux is using USB cable internet independently of my desktop which is using the regular cable modem hookup. It seems to be working fine that way however is their a way I can network between the two machines through the cable modem that they are both hooked up to without getting another NIC card for the desktop? I only want to share files between the 2 computers and I guess I really do not need to share the internet afterall. How would I go about this? Do I still need the crossover cable for this? Something tells me yes. Any particular kind or speed, etc? Will I have to use samba for the filesharing after they are hooked up? Thanks for any help here. Sincerely. Marcia --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Networking
On Saturday 18 May 2002 23:01, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Networking Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 16:58:57 -0400 From: Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 09 May 2002 02:23 am, you wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2002 8:41 am, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I may set this up? Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia I beleive USB cannot be directly used for networking as it is a parent - child (computer - peripheral) relationship, not peer to peer. Having said that a USB NIC could theoretically exist. Dunno how fast it would be though. NIC's (Network Interface Cards) are as cheap as toothpaste almost anyway. And the correct way to set up a peer to peer network. A slower alternative is the Null modem cable which requires Serial Ports available on both PC's. Confusing or enlightening you... i dunno. Dear All, I really do not think I need to do internet sharing afterall since my laptop linux is using USB cable internet independently of my desktop which is using the regular cable modem hookup. It seems to be working fine that way however is their a way I can network between the two machines through the cable modem that they are both hooked up to without getting another NIC card for the desktop? I only want to share files between the 2 computers and I guess I really do not need to share the internet afterall. How would I go about this? Do I still need the crossover cable for this? Something tells me yes. Any particular kind or speed, etc? Will I have to use samba for the filesharing after they are hooked up? Thanks for any help here. - Marcia, I'm not really sure what exactly you're asking but if you're trying to use the cable-modem as a sort of hub replacement: It probably won't work and using a crossover cable won't change it. If on the other hand you're connecting the 2 boxes directly (without a hub) you will need the crossover, but you will also need 2 nic's on the desktop (or let your laptop share it usb connection ) one nic for the internet and the other for the lan. If you have flatrate and your provider allows it you could optionally create your own pseudo-ftpserver in a private corner on the space you've been allowed for your homepage for instance. It not fast or practical but very flexible:o) Good luck, Harm Bathoorn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking
2 computers Mandrake 8.2 network can ping from machine 1 to machine 2 Where do I find equivalent of 'network neighbourhood' in Gnome? Found it in KDE, but keep getting 'localhost not found' message. Was advised to change to Gnome, because KDE has bug. help! -- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Marcia, Sorry for the delay - have been setting up a broadband for myself and newbie has taken a back seat the last couple of days. Sounds like you are just about set hardware-wise and with 8.2 the software side should be a breeze. I think all you need to add is a cross-over network cable. i.e. just like the cable you have from the desktop to the cable modem, but with some of the wires connected differently at one end. You can get one of these at your friendly computer store. Now, do I understand correctly that you can connect the desktop to the cable modem via USB? First step (after you have your crossover cable) is to do this and make sure you have internet on the desktop without anything connected to the ethernet card. Now plug the crossover cable between the laptop and desktop ethernet ports. Now run Control Center Network Internet Connection Sharing It will warn you that you must have a dedicated device to do this - that's fine. It will set up eth0 (your ethernet interface) to static address 192.168.0.1 and enable Masquerading. Set your laptop IP address to either DHCP or 192.168.0.2 (I prefer the latter as static addresses give less room for problems). All other network settings on the laptop should be empty. At this point you should have internet access on both machines. You may then choose to tighten up security a little by running InteractiveBastille, but even without that you are much less visible and vulnerable than before. InteractiveBastille will ask a lot of questions while providing a lot of info on how to answer them. You'll learn a bit and end up with a secure environment at the same time. Good luck and have fun! Brian On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 03:47, Marcia wrote: Dear Brian, On Sunday 12 May 2002 07:48 pm, you wrote: Marcia, I have seen some replies to this, but don't think any of them have yet touched on a crucial point: Your laptop is running W98, so would therefore be much more safely disposed sitting behind your linux box in internet terms. I agree with you here. I would like to do this but am a newbie here and really do not know how to do that. I have been reading for months about it, however, it has taken awhile to approach this for me. Does the laptop have an ethernet port, or can it be added? Yes, the laptop has an ethernet port and 2 USB ports. My new Toshiba DOCSIS cable modem has both an ethernet port and USB port so I hooked up my desktop with LM8.2 to the ethernet port and my laptop with dualboot Win98/LM8.2 is hooked up to the modem through USB. They both connect to the internet just fine and to my surprise even the LM8.2 is on the internet through the USB. I have been able to ping from LM8.2 on my desktop to Win98 on my laptop. I have not tried pinging from LM8.2 on my laptop to LM8.2 on my desktop yet. I thought of using VNC to use the Powerpoint program on my LM8.2 desktop if that is possible. My husband prefers using the desktop and wishes to become proficient with Powerpoint for his work. mind the best scenario would be for the laptop to be connected to the linux machine via ethernet - just a crossover cable between the two would do this. Then you set up internet connection sharing and firewall on the linux box. Add samba and you have the laptop able to share the cable connection from behind a firewall, and move files/share printers between the two machines. I would love to do this and probably can right now if I figure out how to set it up. Assuming that neither box has a network card (as you indicated the cable modem is connected via USB), total cost for this would be almost nothing for a NIC for the desktop and somewhat more for the laptop. Like my budgeting? Actually both computers have a network card. The desktop also has a dial up modem which I do not use and the laptop has 2 dial up modems. I am able to use the cox cable internet from LM8.2 on the laptop through the USB connection. That was a pleasant surprise. My goal here is to be able to network all of my systems and to possibly use ipmasquerade so that Win98 can be used on the net through Linux. These are the things I need help with since I do not know exactly what to do yet. Thanks very much for your suggestions and help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
What bug? Theres nothing wrong with KDE networking. That 'Localhost not found' was because you clicked on Networklocal Network in konqueror which is used for browsing Samba networks. If you have not set up Samba and an application called LISa thats what will happen. There are 2 ways to share files in Linux, NFS and Samba NFS is Linux only, is easy to set up, but is less secure and requires you to have exactly the same user accounts and UID numbers on both computers. Once set up you can mount folders using kwikdisk, and can browse the network using any file manager Konqueror/Nautilus etc. Refer to the docs section at www.mandrakeuser.org for details of how to set it up. Mandrake Control CentreMount Points now has a GUI to set up NFS but until you read about it you will not understand how to use the GUI. The second way is Samba Samba allows you to share files between Linux to Linux, and Linux to Windows. Refer to mandrakeuser for setting it up. (Webmin is a good tool) Once set up you can browse Samba networks with applications like Komba2 for KDE or Gnomba for Gnome to mount folders which can then be browsed with a file manager. There is a lot of references on Mandrakeuser and in the archives of this list about setting up Samba and NFS. HTH derek On Thursday 16 May 2002 10:51 am, Luc Vermeersch wrote: 2 computers Mandrake 8.2 network can ping from machine 1 to machine 2 Where do I find equivalent of 'network neighbourhood' in Gnome? Found it in KDE, but keep getting 'localhost not found' message. Was advised to change to Gnome, because KDE has bug. help! -- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
localhost not found is (my first guess would be) a problem with the names of the computers in the /etc/hosts file or /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny. does each computer have it's own name and IP properly wrote to these files and set in the network setup scripts? On Thursday 16 May 2002 05:51 am, you wrote: 2 computers Mandrake 8.2 network can ping from machine 1 to machine 2 Where do I find equivalent of 'network neighbourhood' in Gnome? Found it in KDE, but keep getting 'localhost not found' message. Was advised to change to Gnome, because KDE has bug. help! -- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
Got the advice that I have to set up Samba and Lisa. Will first have to read documentation about this thanks anyway localhost not found is (my first guess would be) a problem with the names of the computers in the /etc/hosts file or /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny. does each computer have it's own name and IP properly wrote to these files and set in the network setup scripts? On Thursday 16 May 2002 05:51 am, you wrote: 2 computers Mandrake 8.2 network can ping from machine 1 to machine 2 Where do I find equivalent of 'network neighbourhood' in Gnome? Found it in KDE, but keep getting 'localhost not found' message. Was advised to change to Gnome, because KDE has bug. help! -- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org -- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Marcia, Try using the -bgr233 option. That will force the server to send 8-bit color instead of 16-bit color. You can also mess with the -compresslevel num option, where num is 0-9. The -quality num may also help the speed (at the expense of quality, of course). See the man page for (sketchy) details: man vncviewer I have no idea how to do these things with the Winsux client. Miark On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 11:16, Marcia wrote: By the way, how can I improve the speed of VNC? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Dear Brian, On Sunday 12 May 2002 07:48 pm, you wrote: Marcia, I have seen some replies to this, but don't think any of them have yet touched on a crucial point: Your laptop is running W98, so would therefore be much more safely disposed sitting behind your linux box in internet terms. I agree with you here. I would like to do this but am a newbie here and really do not know how to do that. I have been reading for months about it, however, it has taken awhile to approach this for me. Does the laptop have an ethernet port, or can it be added? Yes, the laptop has an ethernet port and 2 USB ports. My new Toshiba DOCSIS cable modem has both an ethernet port and USB port so I hooked up my desktop with LM8.2 to the ethernet port and my laptop with dualboot Win98/LM8.2 is hooked up to the modem through USB. They both connect to the internet just fine and to my surprise even the LM8.2 is on the internet through the USB. I have been able to ping from LM8.2 on my desktop to Win98 on my laptop. I have not tried pinging from LM8.2 on my laptop to LM8.2 on my desktop yet. I thought of using VNC to use the Powerpoint program on my LM8.2 desktop if that is possible. My husband prefers using the desktop and wishes to become proficient with Powerpoint for his work. mind the best scenario would be for the laptop to be connected to the linux machine via ethernet - just a crossover cable between the two would do this. Then you set up internet connection sharing and firewall on the linux box. Add samba and you have the laptop able to share the cable connection from behind a firewall, and move files/share printers between the two machines. I would love to do this and probably can right now if I figure out how to set it up. Assuming that neither box has a network card (as you indicated the cable modem is connected via USB), total cost for this would be almost nothing for a NIC for the desktop and somewhat more for the laptop. Like my budgeting? Actually both computers have a network card. The desktop also has a dial up modem which I do not use and the laptop has 2 dial up modems. I am able to use the cox cable internet from LM8.2 on the laptop through the USB connection. That was a pleasant surprise. My goal here is to be able to network all of my systems and to possibly use ipmasquerade so that Win98 can be used on the net through Linux. These are the things I need help with since I do not know exactly what to do yet. Thanks very much for your suggestions and help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
Marcia, I have seen some replies to this, but don't think any of them have yet touched on a crucial point: Your laptop is running W98, so would therefore be much more safely disposed sitting behind your linux box in internet terms. Does the laptop have an ethernet port, or can it be added? If so, to my mind the best scenario would be for the laptop to be connected to the linux machine via ethernet - just a crossover cable between the two would do this. Then you set up internet connection sharing and firewall on the linux box. Add samba and you have the laptop able to share the cable connection from behind a firewall, and move files/share printers between the two machines. Assuming that neither box has a network card (as you indicated the cable modem is connected via USB), total cost for this would be almost nothing for a NIC for the desktop and somewhat more for the laptop. Like my budgeting? I have no idea what is available for the laptop, but you can probably get a PCMCIA NIC for it. HTH Brian On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 06:41, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I may set this up? Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking
MandrakeUser does not recommend USB network connections, and talks you through what is recommended. See the gory details at: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan.html MandrakeUser is a great site, by the way. If you haven't browsed the docs there yet it's worth checking out. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Thu, 9 May 2002 18:23:49 +1200 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2002 8:41 am, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have a desktop with LM8.2 that is connected to a cable modem through a cable wire and a laptop with Win98 that can work with cable also or with a dial-up modem. The cable modem is a Toshiba DOCSIS that also can be hooked up through USB. My laptop has USB so I was wondering if I could hook it up to the cable modem through the USB hook-up so that I could share the internet and network between the laptop and desktop? Does anyone have any ideas how I may set this up? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
/etc/hosts: 192.168.0.3 luc.thuis.com luc 192.168.0.1 luc.thuis.com ivette why do I have to give a domain name? I'm only trying to set up a small intranet, nothing else. Do I need to give a Gateway number or DNS number? I have three computers, two working with windows 98 SE and one with win 2000 / Mandrake 8.1. Networking is OK under windows (192.168.0.1; 192.168.0.2; 192.168.0.3; workgroup: thuis; computer names: luc (win2k/mandrake); ivette (win98SE and cablemodem); nina;no NT- domain) what does your file /etc/hosts say? On Tuesday 23 April 2002 03:11 am, you wrote: how to configure NIC? Gave it a fixed IP-address (192.168.0.3) and hostname luc (name of the computer in the network) but keep getting error message hostname 'localhost' can't be found. The other computers in the network run on windows 98 SE Any suggestions?-- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org -- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking
how to configure NIC? Gave it a fixed IP-address (192.168.0.3) and hostname luc (name of the computer in the network) but keep getting error message hostname 'localhost' can't be found. The other computers in the network run on windows 98 SE Any suggestions?-- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking 2
OS is Mandrake 8.1 sorry forgot to mention it-- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking
what does your file /etc/hosts say? On Tuesday 23 April 2002 03:11 am, you wrote: how to configure NIC? Gave it a fixed IP-address (192.168.0.3) and hostname luc (name of the computer in the network) but keep getting error message hostname 'localhost' can't be found. The other computers in the network run on windows 98 SE Any suggestions?-- Luc Vermeersch Wereldverbond van de Arbeid - WVA Trierstraat 33, B-1040 Brussel, België tel 32-2/285.47.11 - fax 32-2/230.87.22 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.cmt-wcl.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking inquiry
(Actually, that subject line should be *utter* newbie) I've taken the plunge here, and installed ML 8.2 on another machine, one that I hope to eventually use to replace my present Windoze server system, but have already hit a stumbling block head on. My present server system runs under 98SE, and contains those servers and user files for my domain and the subdomains I host. It also contains the 3COM NIC that hooks to my DSL modem, along with a secondary NIC for the LAN. The new Linux system was previously a 98SE client system, and things worked about as well as they ever do under the Win32 platform. My intention is to use the Linux system as my primary server, and move the user files and so forth to it, as well as make use of it's FTP, mail, and http servers to host my domain and clients. This is where I am running into problems. I need to be able to network the new box into the existing setup, so that I can test things before making these changes, and to be able to transfer the existing user files over to their new home, but... I am unable to make the Linux system connect to the winbox. I'm using the same IP address and subnet mask that I used with the system when it had Windoze installed on it, but it refuses to connect now, and I am not nearly experienced enough with Linux to know where to start looking for clues as to the how's and why's of this procedure. No doubt, I've not installed something needed, or have otherwise overlooked the obvious, and was hoping that some kind soul here could give me a boot in the right direction as to what I need to set up to at least get the two systems to talk to each other, perhaps a tutorial somewhere that could lead me in the right direction. Many thanks in advance, and apologies for my blatant ignorance on the topic. ;c) Belgarius Mourngrym [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/10/02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking inquiry
On Friday 12 April 2002 14:03, Belgarius opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: My intention is to use the Linux system as my primary server, and move the user files and so forth to it, as well as make use of it's FTP, mail, and http servers to host my domain and clients. This is where I am running into problems. I need to be able to network the new box into the existing setup, so that I can test things before making these changes, and to be able to transfer the existing user files over to their new home, but... I am unable to make the Linux system connect to the winbox. I'm using the same IP address and subnet mask that I used with the system when it had Windoze installed on it, but it refuses to connect now, and I am not nearly experienced enough with Linux to know where to start starting very basic, http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/cmlan.html however, what do you by it refuses to connect? can you ping the box? can you see files either direction? what are you using to attempt to see files? more info! mandrake mailing list users want to know! :-) if you can ping both ways, let me suggest komba2 for your filesharing needs. it is on the cds i believe. samba is also your friend. if you can't ping, try, in a shell window, becoming root first with the su command then ifconfig and tell us what you get. -- Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue... shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking inquiry
On Friday 12 April 2002 10:03 pm, Belgarius wrote: (Actually, that subject line should be *utter* newbie) I've taken the plunge here, and installed ML 8.2 on another machine, one that I hope to eventually use to replace my present Windoze server system, but have already hit a stumbling block head on. My present server system runs under 98SE, and contains those servers and user files for my domain and the subdomains I host. It also contains the 3COM NIC that hooks to my DSL modem, along with a secondary NIC for the LAN. The new Linux system was previously a 98SE client system, and things worked about as well as they ever do under the Win32 platform. My intention is to use the Linux system as my primary server, and move the user files and so forth to it, as well as make use of it's FTP, mail, and http servers to host my domain and clients. This is where I am running into problems. I need to be able to network the new box into the existing setup, so that I can test things before making these changes, and to be able to transfer the existing user files over to their new home, but... I am unable to make the Linux system connect to the winbox. I'm using the same IP address and subnet mask that I used with the system when it had Windoze installed on it, but it refuses to connect now, and I am not nearly experienced enough with Linux to know where to start looking for clues as to the how's and why's of this procedure. No doubt, I've not installed something needed, or have otherwise overlooked the obvious, and was hoping that some kind soul here could give me a boot in the right direction as to what I need to set up to at least get the two systems to talk to each other, perhaps a tutorial somewhere that could lead me in the right direction. Many thanks in advance, and apologies for my blatant ignorance on the topic. ;c) Windows machines use a proprietary SMB protocol to talk to each other. So in order to use your Linux box as a Windows file server it needs to 'look like' a Windows box. That function is performed by a server function called 'Samba' in 8.2 Samba is quite easy to set up (compared to earlier releases) using a tool called 'Webmin' Webmin is worth getting to know because you can set up a whole bunch of stuff with it, and can even set up your linux box with a remote computer. First install the rpms samba,samba-client,samba-common,webmin The webmin server will automatically start when you install the rpm. Next type https://localhost:1in the URL line of any browser. This will pull up the webmin login. Login as username root. Ignore the other fun stuff for the moment, To set up Samba select Servers Samba Windows FileSharing It will show a page showing your default shares which are homes -This is the home directory of whichever user logs into samba printers - This is any linux printer attached to the Computer or networked through CUPS You can try adding new shares later, but start off just trying to share the home directories. Next define the samba user names. These do NOT have to be the same as the Linux user names, but it makes life simpler to understand if they are. These users must also exist on the Windows computers. Webmin has a nice facility to automatically convert linus users to samba users. Select 'Convert Unix users to Samba Users' It will then show the users it has converted. Delete any unwanted ones, and make sure thos that remain are defined with 'normal user' 'password IS required' and set the password to be the same as the Linux password (for an easy life) Next Select 'Windows Networking' Make sure the workgroup name is as for the rest of your network. Then click on 'Restart Samba Server' and you should be just about there. (So long as I have not left out some vital step) You should then see your Linux computer in Windows 'Network Neighbourhood' and you should be able to mount the home directory of whichever user you used to log into the windows box. If it does not accept the password, there is something screwy in your username/password config. To browse the Windows computers from Linux two methods are easy to do. 1/ Install the rpm 'komba2' Start it from the Kmenu and then you should get a 'Network Neighbourhood' browse facility. Clicking on a folder will open it (so long as you have given komba the username/password) and it will mount in your home directory under the folder 'komba' 2/ Use Mandrake ControlCentreMountPointsSambaMountPoints Click on 'Search servers' to find your windows computers. Click on the server name to find shared folders Select one and click on mount point to specify the folder on the linux machine where you want this share to go. Click on options- user allows a user to mount the folder as well as root. Noauto means the folder will NOT be automatically mounted every tme the computer boots. Select on 'Mount' and the folder will be mounted for
[newbie] networking - I can get into my box but not back out
Hi - I just installed mandrake 7.1 on a new box. I am trying to duplicate a box that died last week and reusing the same server name and IP address. But I clearly have something set wrong. I can see this new box from the network and I can telnet and ftp in to it, but I can't get out to the network when I'm on it. I have a PC plugged in to the same subnet, and I used the same subnet mask on the linux box that is used for the PC. but on the PC I have a default gateway, I put this in as the default gateway on the linux box as well. I guess I'm missing the broadcast address? any ideas on how I would determine what that should be? thanks - Ebeth Jones Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking - I can get into my box but not back out
Elizabeth Jones wrote: Hi - I just installed mandrake 7.1 on a new box. I am trying to duplicate a box that died last week and reusing the same server name and IP address. But I clearly have something set wrong. I can see this new box from the network and I can telnet and ftp in to it, but I can't get out to the network when I'm on it. I have a PC plugged in to the same subnet, and I used the same subnet mask on the linux box that is used for the PC. but on the PC I have a default gateway, I put this in as the default gateway on the linux box as well. I guess I'm missing the broadcast address? any ideas on how I would determine what that should be? I'm a Linux newbie, also, but I'd try: * pinging the gateway by ip address (from the new box) * pinging something on the Internet by domain name If the first works and the second doesn't, I'd suspect that your DNS server addresses are not set (in the new PC). Re: Broadcast address -- tell us the ip and subnet mask on the new box -- IIRC, the broadcast address is (in complicated terms) the ip address of the new box, masked by its netmask, and everything in the netmask replaced by binary ones (or is it zeros). If you tell us the ip and subnet mask, I or someone else can tell you the broadcast address. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking - I can get into my box but not back out
On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Elizabeth Jones wrote: %_Hi - I just installed mandrake 7.1 on a new box. I am trying to duplicate a box that died last week and reusing the same server name and IP address. But I clearly have something set wrong. I can see this new box from the network and I can telnet and ftp in to it, but I can't get out to the network when I'm on it. I have a PC plugged in to the same subnet, and I used the same subnet mask on the linux box that is used for the PC. but on the PC I have a default gateway, I put this in as the default gateway on the linux box as well. I guess I'm missing the broadcast address? any ideas on how I would determine what that should be? It would be the highest address in the subnet. for instance 192.168.1.255 do an 'ifconfig' and post the output. also do a route -n and post the output. Then maybe someone can help. -- Gerald Waugh Registered Linux User 255245 register at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking - I can get into my box but not back out
This worked, I changed the broadcast address as Gerald said and now it is working. Thanks alot! On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Gerald Waugh wrote: On Mon, 04 Feb 2002, Elizabeth Jones wrote: %_Hi - I just installed mandrake 7.1 on a new box. I am trying to duplicate a box that died last week and reusing the same server name and IP address. But I clearly have something set wrong. I can see this new box from the network and I can telnet and ftp in to it, but I can't get out to the network when I'm on it. I have a PC plugged in to the same subnet, and I used the same subnet mask on the linux box that is used for the PC. but on the PC I have a default gateway, I put this in as the default gateway on the linux box as well. I guess I'm missing the broadcast address? any ideas on how I would determine what that should be? It would be the highest address in the subnet. for instance 192.168.1.255 -- Gerald Waugh Registered Linux User 255245 register at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking - I can get into my box but not back out
Elizabeth Jones wrote: Hi - I just installed mandrake 7.1 on a new box. I am trying to duplicate a box that died last week and reusing the same server name and IP address. But I clearly have something set wrong. I can see this new box from the network and I can telnet and ftp in to it, but I can't get out to the network when I'm on it. I have a PC plugged in to the same subnet, and I used the same subnet mask on the linux box that is used for the PC. but on the PC I have a default gateway, I put this in as the default gateway on the linux box as well. I guess I'm missing the broadcast address? any ideas on how I would determine what that should be? thanks - Ebeth Jones Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ummm, maybe you could tell us a bit more about your network/internet connection? /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/resolv.conf contents would also be helpful You can put them to a file by putting in a floppy disk (dos formatted) cat /etc/resolv.conf somefilename cat /etc/sysconfig/network samefilename cp somefilename /mnt/floppy then you can send us the info by copying it to your windows machine and pasting it into your email. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking internet woes...
Hi all, I have one of those usb alcatel modems, which works perfectly. my problem is that when i have eth0 enabled as well, i loose dns resoloution, i can ping the outside world and retreve web pages if iknow the ip address of the site. i can ping my internal lan (on eth0) fine etc. disbable eth0 and dns suddenly works any ideas? Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.comPOV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.ukTEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Keyhttp://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA
Re: [newbie] networking internet woes...
disable routing. you have the default route set to eth0 and not PPP0 On Saturday 02 February 2002 06:02, you wrote: Hi all, I have one of those usb alcatel modems, which works perfectly. my problem is that when i have eth0 enabled as well, i loose dns resoloution, i can ping the outside world and retreve web pages if i know the ip address of the site. i can ping my internal lan (on eth0) fine etc. disbable eth0 and dns suddenly works any ideas? Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking internet woes...
On Saturday 02 February 2002 06:02, you wrote: Hi all, I have one of those usb alcatel modems, which works perfectly. my problem is that when i have eth0 enabled as well, i loose dns resoloution, i can ping the outside world and retreve web pages if i know the ip address of the site. i can ping my internal lan (on eth0) fine etc. disbable eth0 and dns suddenly works any ideas? disable routing. you have the default route set to eth0 and not PPP0 and I do that in which file? Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking Problem
Hi All I'm baffled. I have a 3 computer network at home. Using a switch, I have my Linux machine and two other XP workstations all connected. The Linux box acts as a gateway for the net and a print server etc. and the xp workstations are simply used for day-to-day work. I have it set up so I can share files between all 3 computers (using a combination of microshaft's connection wizard thingy and samba/komba2). Everything was fine until recently one of the XP machines stopped sharing it's files (and was unable to connect to the other two computers' shared files), although the other two computers still happily share files and printer. The 'faulty' xp machine still takes it's connection for the net through the linux box though! - so no major network hardware problem I thought/think!? Linux ip: - 192.168.0.1 (gateway) Xpbox1 (faulty share machine): - 192.168.0.2 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Xpbox2: - 192.168.0.3 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Both the linux box and XPbox2 can ping each other, and I can ping both the linux box and the XPbox2 from the 'faulty' XPbox1. However, and perhaps crucially, I cannot ping XPbox1 from either linux or XPbox2. Phew, that took some writing and no doubt has taken some reading if you've bothered to get this far :) Can anyone offer me help please... I know this is not strictly a Linux query as it seems XPbox1 is to blame, but I'm sure someone out there might have some ideas to try at least. Could it be a hardware issue? That's all I could find in the way of help on the MS knowledge base webby. Thanks Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking Problem
Hi All I'm baffled. I have a 3 computer network at home. Using a switch, I have my Linux machine and two other XP workstations all connected. The Linux box acts as a gateway for the net and a print server etc. and the xp workstations are simply used for day-to-day work. I have it set up so I can share files between all 3 computers (using a combination of microshaft's connection wizard thingy and samba/komba2). Everything was fine until recently one of the XP machines stopped sharing it's files (and was unable to connect to the other two computers' shared files), although the other two computers still happily share files and printer. The 'faulty' xp machine still takes it's connection for the net through the linux box though! - so no major network hardware problem I thought/think!? Linux ip: - 192.168.0.1 (gateway) Xpbox1 (faulty share machine): - 192.168.0.2 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Xpbox2: - 192.168.0.3 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Both the linux box and XPbox2 can ping each other, and I can ping both the linux box and the XPbox2 from the 'faulty' XPbox1. However, and perhaps crucially, I cannot ping XPbox1 from either linux or XPbox2. Phew, that took some writing and no doubt has taken some reading if you've bothered to get this far :) Can anyone offer me help please... I know this is not strictly a Linux query as it seems XPbox1 is to blame, but I'm sure someone out there might have some ideas to try at least. Could it be a hardware issue? That's all I could find in the way of help on the MS knowledge base webby. Thanks Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking Problem
Never used XP, but is this was a win98 question I'd say the problem was that you were not logged into the windows box with a valid username/password. For some reason if you give windows the wrong password it does not stop you logging on and seeing all the files, but it will stop you browsing the network. I think they call it security? Derek On Tuesday 11 December 2001 19:03, Neil R Porter wrote: Hi All I'm baffled. I have a 3 computer network at home. Using a switch, I have my Linux machine and two other XP workstations all connected. The Linux box acts as a gateway for the net and a print server etc. and the xp workstations are simply used for day-to-day work. I have it set up so I can share files between all 3 computers (using a combination of microshaft's connection wizard thingy and samba/komba2). Everything was fine until recently one of the XP machines stopped sharing it's files (and was unable to connect to the other two computers' shared files), although the other two computers still happily share files and printer. The 'faulty' xp machine still takes it's connection for the net through the linux box though! - so no major network hardware problem I thought/think!? Linux ip: - 192.168.0.1 (gateway) Xpbox1 (faulty share machine): - 192.168.0.2 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Xpbox2: - 192.168.0.3 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Both the linux box and XPbox2 can ping each other, and I can ping both the linux box and the XPbox2 from the 'faulty' XPbox1. However, and perhaps crucially, I cannot ping XPbox1 from either linux or XPbox2. Phew, that took some writing and no doubt has taken some reading if you've bothered to get this far :) Can anyone offer me help please... I know this is not strictly a Linux query as it seems XPbox1 is to blame, but I'm sure someone out there might have some ideas to try at least. Could it be a hardware issue? That's all I could find in the way of help on the MS knowledge base webby. Thanks Neil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Networking Problem
Nope... It's off... Gawd I have no idea what's happening with it :( -Original Message- From: Dave Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 22:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Networking Problem On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 13:03, Neil R Porter wrote: Hi All I'm baffled. I have a 3 computer network at home. Using a switch, I have my Linux machine and two other XP workstations all connected. The Linux box acts as a gateway for the net and a print server etc. and the xp workstations are simply used for day-to-day work. I have it set up so I can share files between all 3 computers (using a combination of microshaft's connection wizard thingy and samba/komba2). Everything was fine until recently one of the XP machines stopped sharing it's files (and was unable to connect to the other two computers' shared files), although the other two computers still happily share files and printer. The 'faulty' xp machine still takes it's connection for the net through the linux box though! - so no major network hardware problem I thought/think!? Linux ip: - 192.168.0.1 (gateway) Xpbox1 (faulty share machine): - 192.168.0.2 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Xpbox2: - 192.168.0.3 (mask, 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1) Both the linux box and XPbox2 can ping each other, and I can ping both the linux box and the XPbox2 from the 'faulty' XPbox1. However, and perhaps crucially, I cannot ping XPbox1 from either linux or XPbox2. Phew, that took some writing and no doubt has taken some reading if you've bothered to get this far :) Can anyone offer me help please... I know this is not strictly a Linux query as it seems XPbox1 is to blame, but I'm sure someone out there might have some ideas to try at least. Could it be a hardware issue? That's all I could find in the way of help on the MS knowledge base webby. Thanks Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible you have misconfigured the built-in firewall on that XP box? Dave -- Will the third world war keep Bosom Buddies off the air? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking
Hi All, My Mandrake 8.0 box crashed and I ended up reinstalling the O/S. I had my small LAN working and Samba was configured. I just can't remember how I got my network settings configured. Spent too much time setting up Samba to remember what I did to make everything else work. Anyhow, if someone could point me in the right direction it would be apreciated. The more detailed the better because I am still new to Linux. Thanks in advance Frank McKenna Difficulties increase the closer we approach our Goals Plato ~ It takes a minute to have a crush on someone,an hour to like someone and a day to love someonebut it takes a lifetime to forget someone. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] networking with linux
Hi, I want to network my linux box with my two other machines (win2k and win98), I want the linux box to act as a server on the network as it will eventually be connected to the internet and the other two shall access the net through it (hopefully). I have not configured the linux box at all as i am unsure about networking with linux. Where is the best place to start, anyone got any decent sites that cover this for the newbie? I am just unsure where to start with all this. thanks in advance lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] networking with linux
Try www.linuxnewbie.org , and look at the NHF (Newbie Help Files) for networking. Lanman On Tuesday 11 September 2001 04:54 am, you wrote: Hi, I want to network my linux box with my two other machines (win2k and win98), I want the linux box to act as a server on the network as it will eventually be connected to the internet and the other two shall access the net through it (hopefully). I have not configured the linux box at all as i am unsure about networking with linux. Where is the best place to start, anyone got any decent sites that cover this for the newbie? I am just unsure where to start with all this. thanks in advance lee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Lee Start off by teading the HOWTo's on Mandrake User Online http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/ Also check out the archive of this email list http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ Samba will get your Windows machines networked to the Linux machine. The Windows machines will be able to browse the Linux files with Network Neighbourhood. LISa will give you the ability to browse your windows machines from Konquerer just like Windows Network Neighbourhood. (Some old mails tell how about configuring LISa) IP Maquerading will allow the Linux box to be a gateway for the Windows machines. Tip: When configuring Samba to get networking between your Linux box and your Windows boxes. Don't forget to enable password encrption in Samba. That one catches everyone out. Derek On Tuesday 11 September 2001 04:54, you wrote: Hi, I want to network my linux box with my two other machines (win2k and win98), I want the linux box to act as a server on the network as it will eventually be connected to the internet and the other two shall access the net through it (hopefully). I have not configured the linux box at all as i am unsure about networking with linux. Where is the best place to start, anyone got any decent sites that cover this for the newbie? I am just unsure where to start with all this. thanks in advance lee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Networking setup
Ideally should should have initially inserted the card BEFORE installing Mandrake, so that it would have set everything up for you. If you already have it in place, you'll need to at least once insert the card BEFORE the machine boots so that HardDrake can configure it. lsdev should then show you if it has been recognized, as will lsmod to show you the module loaded... Though Linuxconf/HardDrake may not get this right on an already installed unit... (actually it does a great job, but the installation scripts are oriented to a first time install...) You'll also have to set up networking in Linuxconf to utilize the card. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |On Behalf Of Robert F. Trettel |Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 3:05 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Networking setup | | |Hi All, | |I am in the process of building a 3 computer network which is as |follows: |Tower acting as server |a desktop as a workstation |and a laptop workstation needs to be removable from network | |That said now the laptop has a problem the linksys EtherFast |10/100 is not reginized hear a long and short beep when |inserting. Did some checking at Linksys web site,they say to |get it to work have to do |some compiling. heck I can just barely get things done as is. |Have tons of books on Linux,but they all talk way above me. |Does anybody know of a network card that is *no* problem?? So |far I can ping the tower at Ip address and dns. Can ping the |desktop at its IP address but not its dns. | |Hope somebody can lend a hand (not geek) |Thanks |Robert F. Trettel | | BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sanchez;Jose;M FN:Jose M Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Net Results, Inc.;Lan Support TITLE:Lan Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:301-972-8271 TEL;HOME;VOICE:301-972-8507 TEL;CELL;VOICE:301-502-0151 TEL;WORK;FAX:301-349-2201 TEL;HOME;FAX:301-349-2201 ADR;WORK:;301-972-8271;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:301-972-8271=0D=0A17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837= =0D=0AUnited States ADR;HOME:;;17206 Spates Hill Road;Poolesville;Maryland;20837;United States LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:17206 Spates Hill Road=0D=0APoolesville, Maryland 20837=0D=0AUnited States URL: URL:http://opjose.homeip.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20010825T134515Z END:VCARD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Networking setup
Hi All, I am in the process of building a 3 computer network which is as follows: Tower acting as server a desktop as a workstation and a laptop workstation needs to be removable from network That said now the laptop has a problem the linksys EtherFast 10/100 is not reginized hear a long and short beep when inserting. Did some checking at Linksys web site,they say to get it to work have to do some compiling. heck I can just barely get things done as is. Have tons of books on Linux,but they all talk way above me. Does anybody know of a network card that is *no* problem?? So far I can ping the tower at Ip address and dns. Can ping the desktop at its IP address but not its dns. Hope somebody can lend a hand (not geek) Thanks Robert F. Trettel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking setup
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 14:05, Robert F. Trettel wrote: That said now the laptop has a problem the linksys EtherFast 10/100 is not reginized hear a long and short beep when inserting. Did some checking at Linksys web site,they say to get it to work have to do some compiling. heck I can just barely get things done as is. Have tons of books on Linux,but they all talk way above me. Does anybody know of a network card that is *no* problem?? So far I can ping the tower at Ip address and dns. Can ping the desktop at its IP address but not its dns. I have a 3COM CardBus 10/100 that works great. Model 3CCFE57BT. Dave PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Networking setup
Well the thing in Linux, is that if there are problems with an IRQ conflict, your hardware is not going to work. I ran into problems like this with one of my machines. In Windows, if there are IRQ conflicts, it will still manage to find the address for the hardware and send the correct information to it. Linux requires that you have a real IRQ for each piece of hardware. If your motherboards supports shared conflicts, make sure there are only two per IRQ, and they aren't something real serious. So, does your NIC have an IRQ? [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat /proc/interrupts | grep eth 3: 263857807 XT-PIC eth0 That means, that my NIC, which is eth0, has an IRQ of 3. If you see that, you have an IRQ. Is it recognized so the correct modules can be loaded? [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat /etc/modules.conf | grep eth0 alias eth0 3c59x That means that eth0, is actually an alias for 3c59x, which is the module that will be used. If you see those two things, then you need to configure it. You can do this via HardDrake. Going into the section for Network Device Cards, try and find your NIC. If it's in there, select it, and then run the config tool. There's a button for it there. Go through those steps. You can do this if you don't see your NIC displayed in /etc/modules.conf as well. If you've done all of that, you'll need to tell it how to acquire it's IP address. From DHCP, or will you assign one for it? You can use DrakConf, and configure the IP/Internet information there. At that point, log in as root, and type this command at a prompt. /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart It will shutdown all the network devices, and then restart them. If it's trying get a DHCP address that may take a little bit of time for it to gather. I say to do it that way, because you know if it comes back and gives you a weird error message, and you can go on from there. So start out making sure the NIC has an IRQ. If it doesn't you need to fix that first. You may try moving it to another PCI slots on your Motherboard, and then try again. I use DLink cards, 3Com cards, and NetGear cards. The DLinks cost me $20, they're 10/100, and they work beautifully. The 3Com cards are more widely supported though. Hope that helps! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 7:12pm up 4 days, 4:36, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 | Hi All, | | I am in the process of building a 3 computer network which is as | follows: | Tower acting as server | a desktop as a workstation | and a laptop workstation needs to be removable from network | | That said now the laptop has a problem the linksys EtherFast 10/100 is | not reginized hear a long and short beep when inserting. | Did some checking at Linksys web site,they say to get it to work have to | do | some compiling. heck I can just barely get things done as is. | Have tons of books on Linux,but they all talk way above me. | Does anybody know of a network card that is *no* problem?? | So far I can ping the tower at Ip address and dns. Can ping the desktop | at its IP address but not its dns. | | Hope somebody can lend a hand (not geek) | Thanks | Robert F. Trettel | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
