Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck for advertising

2024-09-13 Thread Nate Burke
se with a  yugo if you had the right girls on the hood. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:53 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cybertruck for advertising Finally a good business use for a Cybertruck (because I’m not using one as an i

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck for advertising

2024-09-12 Thread chuck
I think using girls in the back of the truck is the secret. You could advertise with a yugo if you had the right girls on the hood. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:53 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Cybertruck for advertising Fina

[AFMUG] Cybertruck for advertising

2024-09-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Finally a good business use for a Cybertruck (because I'm not using one as an install vehicle). Have it wrapped and drive it around to advertise your business. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-cybertruck-with-stripper-pole-dancers- is-driving-around-vegas-2024-9 -- AF mailing list AF

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Nor are ICE. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:05:27 AM Subject: Re

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:21:59 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck. This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric truck: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html “We think it started the purs

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
quot;AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:41:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I just said this at a family gathering tonight. I see the cybertruck not being viable as a service vehicle. I need immediate turn around from a dead tank to ready to go in an

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
; Totally depends on the current of the charger. If you are charging at > >> 400 amps it does not take long to fill the batts. > >> *From:* Matt Hoppes > >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:56 AM > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > >> *Sub

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is anyone else hearing a Cybertruck song in your head, based on the Spiderman them song? (Or Spiderpig if you're a Simpsons fan) -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruc

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
It won't be long now that AAA loads their vehicles with battery packs and recharge them at night. It's called market advantage. They could easily load up a couple of packs that would give 15 miles of range in minutes and line up a lot more customers. On 11/30/2019 01:07 PM, Seth Mattinen w

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
amps it does not take long to fill the batts. *From:* Matt Hoppes *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:56 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck You being a generator and charge at the astounding rate of 5 miles per hour. So let’s say you’re 30 miles from tow

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
ave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Right. But my point is you burn more power going up than you’ll regenerate going down. On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. Slowing down (sort of braking) gene

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGVoB4Zn-Y On 11/30/2019 08:21 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Out of curiosity, when going downhill or coasting, can these motors act as an alternator and charge the batteries? On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:18 AM Steve Jones > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
Less the number of miles traveled... On 11/30/2019 08:18 AM, Steve Jones wrote: 4mpg would still be 16 miles, not 8 On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:01 AM Robert Andrews > wrote: I so beg to differ!!! You take a _very_ high performance Police engine and put in

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/30/19 1:09 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I can charge at 32 amps on a 220v outlet, with the standard Tesla charger... that works out to something like 23 miles of range per hour, I think. That would only require like an 8kw generator, right? Effectively yeah. Generators are rated assuming 0.

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Darin Steffl
n my opinion. >> >> *From:* Matt Hoppes >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 4:05 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck >> >> I haven’t. But I have run out of gas maybe two or three times in my life >> for one r

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > I haven’t. But I have run out of gas maybe two or three times in my life > for one reason or another. > > Very easy for someone to bring me a 5 gallon jug of go juice and I’m off > for 150 miles. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
time I did it on purpose. > > > *From:* Matt Hoppes > *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 3:40 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > Right. But a standard 120volt 20amp outlet like found on many generators > will only charge a

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I haven’t. But I have run out of gas maybe two or three times in my life for one reason or another. Very easy for someone to bring me a 5 gallon jug of go juice and I’m off for 150 miles. On Nov 30, 2019, at 3:59 PM, wrote: AAA generators are level 2

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/30/19 12:59 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: But how many times have you called AAA because you ran out of gas? NDOT sponsors a Freeway Service Patrol that among other things will give people gas to safely get off the freeway and to the nearest gas station. I see it happen often enough. I me

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
xcept for the time I did it on purpose. > > > From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 3:40 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > Right. But a standard 120volt 20amp outlet like found on many generators will > only c

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
charge except for the time I did it on purpose. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 3:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Right. But a standard 120volt 20amp outlet like found on many generators will only charge at 5 miles per hour. On

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
> > From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:56 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > You being a generator and charge at the astounding rate of 5 miles per hour. > > So let’s say you’re 30 miles from town. Tha

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
Leaf too. I almost never hit the actual brake pedal. That with adaptive cruise control I don’t even hit the throttle that much either. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 1:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Mathew, A recent update

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
It is such that the total net change is about the same as if you had gone the same distance on level ground. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Right. But my point is you

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
Same with the leaf. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 1:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck The brake pads in my Tesla should easily last 300k or more miles because I rarely use them. The cars regenerative braking is so strong I

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
Totally depends on the current of the charger. If you are charging at 400 amps it does not take long to fill the batts. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck You being a generator and charge at the

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
Drag increased with the cube of velocity. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Yeah... driving 100+ MPH burns lots and lots of gas... On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 10:05 AM Robert Andrews wrote: High

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
Mine does. I frequently add a mile or two going down this long hill on my commute. From: Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:21 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Out of curiosity, when going downhill or coasting, can these motors act as an

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
I don’t lose 60 miles from the cold. Maybe 10 miles. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck You don’t see a major issue losing 60 miles when it’s cold out? Yes. Gas changes - but because I put a

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
A. So keeping your foot on the accelerator just keeps the braking from kicking in? That makes more sense. I assumed it was using energy because of the drag (braking) that otherwise happens. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 2:35 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I have no idea how a Prius works, but in a

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Prince
nesses buying Cybertrucks and wrapping them with company logo or ads, kind of like they used to be with Hummers. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Right.

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
I have no idea how a Prius works, but in a Tesla while you do have to keep your foot on the accelerator to keep regenerative braking from kicking in, it isn't using any power to speak of when you're coasting. A gas car is still burning gas when your foot isn't on the pedal too... On Sat, Nov 30, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
Consider that we sometimes have the truck running for 6 hours a day. Between driving, keeping the cab warm or cold in extreme conditions, or lighting up a tower or location in the dark, running safety light bars on the vehicle. Electric just doesn’t seem efficient. I also find the regenerat

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
lFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Right. But my point is you burn more power going up than you’ll regenerate going down. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. Slowing

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Darin Steffl
Mathew, A recent update just enabled it on all Model 3's and Raven version of the S and X. It's called holding mode and will use regen all the way to 0, then put the brake hold on until you accelerate again. It's friggin sweet and truly allows me to barely use the brake pedal at all anymore. http

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Interesting... the regenerative braking let's go at around 5mph on my Model S. I guess the 3/newer cars must be different, because I can't come to a complete stop without using the brakes. On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 12:11 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > The brake pads in my Tesla should easily last 300k or

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Darin Steffl
The brake pads in my Tesla should easily last 300k or more miles because I rarely use them. The cars regenerative braking is so strong I basically only drive with the throttle now. As soon as I let off, the car will use regen on the motors and slow me down all the way to 0 now and then apply a brak

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
Right. But my point is you burn more power going up than you’ll regenerate going down. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. Slowing > down (sort of braking) generates power. In aggressive throttle mode, yo

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
A nice side affect of regenerative braking is that my brake pads look like they've barely been used... and my car has almost 60k miles on it. On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 11:16 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. > Slowing down (sort of braking)

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Prince
Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. Slowing down (sort of braking) generates power. In aggressive throttle mode, you hardly have to touch the brake as you can accelerate and slow down with regenerative braking. bp On 11/30/2019 8:58 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
My experience with a Toyota Prius the other week was that climbing a hill I could deplete the battery but coming down would not charge it. So yes. You’ll get into a deficit. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 11/30/19 5:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> Depends on dista

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
on’t > drive an EV so I don’t know. > > Chuck with his Leaf could put it in limp mode and try to make it to a > charging station, or a hybrid could run on gas. > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 9:35 AM > To: Anim

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, they can and do... also when braking. On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:22 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Out of curiosity, when going downhill or coasting, can these motors act as > an alternator and charge the batteries? > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:18 AM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> 4mpg would still be 1

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/30/19 5:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Depends on distance. My car is always charged. So I always have 200 miles on the tank. At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to be charged. Local police departments are making Teslas work. Just takes a different mindset. No maintenance

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Steve Jones
Out of curiosity, when going downhill or coasting, can these motors act as an alternator and charge the batteries? On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:18 AM Steve Jones wrote: > 4mpg would still be 16 miles, not 8 > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:01 AM Robert Andrews > wrote: > >> I so beg to differ!!! You t

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Steve Jones
4mpg would still be 16 miles, not 8 On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 10:01 AM Robert Andrews wrote: > I so beg to differ!!! You take a _very_ high performance Police engine > and put in the 4 gallons of gas to get a normal 50 mile range and then > go start driving it at max performance and it will go to 4

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... driving 100+ MPH burns lots and lots of gas... On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 10:05 AM Robert Andrews wrote: > High speed chases aren't at 70. We drove my denali when it was brand > new out on the backside of 50 across Nevada with no speed limits. MPH > at 70 was about 15. At 100... 8 M

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
High speed chases aren't at 70. We drove my denali when it was brand new out on the backside of 50 across Nevada with no speed limits. MPH at 70 was about 15. At 100... 8 MPG at 125 with the rev limiter kicking in it was 4 MPG... Actual data collected on the trip and we stopped at ev

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
No, it's not going to be as big of a drop, but it is going to drop... and starting a high speed chase to parts unknown with 50 miles of range on gas car probably isn't going to go too well either. Electric cars are certainly different than what we're used to, but that doesn't make them worse. They

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Robert Andrews
I so beg to differ!!! You take a _very_ high performance Police engine and put in the 4 gallons of gas to get a normal 50 mile range and then go start driving it at max performance and it will go to 4 MPG so fast your head will spin. I drive a power wagon to get to mountain tops and it regul

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Bill Prince
Police cars, whether they are state troopers, sheriff, or city cops spend a huge amount of time just idling. When they're doing this, they get zero MPG. This has a remarkable impact on their overall mileage, not to mention cost to operate. Based on what I've read

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck There is no instance where simple increase in speed will take you from 50 miles range to 8 in a gas vehicle. Even heavy braking and hard acceleration. Maybe an 8 mile burn out would consume 50 miles worth of fuel, but then that's not a simple increa

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
All of our vehicles show range. Never have I ever seen that kind of drop going from 35mph to 70 on the highway or higher. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > The same thing would happen if it had been a gas vehicle that said 50 miles > of range left (most gas vehicles d

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Mathew Howard
The same thing would happen if it had been a gas vehicle that said 50 miles of range left (most gas vehicles do have that feature these days...), if you go from driving a gas car at 50 MPH to 120 MPH, your MPG is going to drop too, and not a small amount. I probably wouldn't want to only have an e

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Steve Jones
There is no instance where simple increase in speed will take you from 50 miles range to 8 in a gas vehicle. Even heavy braking and hard acceleration. Maybe an 8 mile burn out would consume 50 miles worth of fuel, but then that's not a simple increase in speed. On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 9:22 AM Darin

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Darin Steffl
Matt, I don't believe you've ever actually given any attention to your gas vehicle while driving it. Look at your mpg during normal driving with no load and temps about 65. Then check mpg when it's below 30, then again when you have a trailer attached, then again by pretending you're in a police c

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the cars fault. The car said 50 miles of range. Which then dropped to 8 because electric motors aren’t efficient at high speeds. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > > For that police chase article, the department actually updated and said th

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
You don’t see a major issue losing 60 miles when it’s cold out? Yes. Gas changes - but because I put a trailer on or minorly with temperature change. Batteries change majorly just with use. That’s my point - I have a 1/4 tank and go up to a tower - I’ll still have a 1/4 tank. Tesla with 50

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Darin Steffl
For that police chase article, the department actually updated and said the car wasn't fully charged the night before from the officer who used it last. He forgot to plug it in so the car never started the shift with a full charge. Not the Teslas fault. https://electrek.co/2019/09/25/tesla-police-

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Darin Steffl
Matt, You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally false. Mpg gets worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps and higher loads as well. In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda accord in the winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling behind our chevy, we get about

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread chuck
: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck. This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric truck: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left on the charge, but when cars

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck. This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric truck: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left on the charge, but when cars accelerate at speeds such

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-30 Thread Chuck McCown
Depends on distance. My car is always charged. So I always have 200 miles on the tank. At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to be charged. Local police departments are making Teslas work. Just takes a different mindset. No maintenance and a truck good for a half million miles w

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/29/19 8:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: You must wear those astronaut diapers? Not quite to that point yet. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
You must wear those astronaut diapers? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 9:33 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck On 11/25/19 4:26 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: > > My model 3 can charge at up to 150KW so if I pul

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-29 Thread Matt Hoppes
I just said this at a family gathering tonight. I see the cybertruck not being viable as a service vehicle. I need immediate turn around from a dead tank to ready to go in an emergency situation. I can’t be waiting 20-70 minutes to get back out on the road. > On Nov 29, 2019, at 10:32 PM, Se

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/25/19 4:26 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: My model 3 can charge at up to 150KW so if I pull into a charger at 10% battery life and charge to 80%, it only takes about half hour. With V3 of their supercharger, the rate increased to 250KW peak so expect a near full charge under 20 mins while tra

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-26 Thread Josh Luthman
ovember 25, 2019 5:21 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > > We can bigger anal balls just for you. We can even make them spiky for > that extra thrill. > > Teslas don't need to idle for heat or AC. They have a heat exchanger that > can run even

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sorry, why did I type 83, 87 and 93, that should be 87, 89 and 93. I remember Sunoco 260. Was that really 102 octane? From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:25 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I don

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
n the roof? OK, not a solution at night. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 7:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Doesn't AAA now have a fleet of tow trucks with 100kw generators on them, just so they can g

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread chuck
+1000 I love waving to the gas stations as I pass them by every day. Not to mention never thinking of an oil change. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 6:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck It's pretty rare that I even have to

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread chuck
t: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck In my opinion, if you're needing to charge it during the workday, it isn't the right truck for the job. Superchargers are fast, but they aren't fast enough that I'd want a guy sitting around waiting for it while he's being paid (not to mention tha

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Mathew Howard
” like you do in an aircraft. Not a > problem. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2019 5:29 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > so you have to plot your workday based on access to sufficient charging &

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread chuck
I have 10 kW of solar and 20 kW at my office, so for the most part my car is solar powered. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 5:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck This is my daily driver and my other "fun" car next to my

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread chuck
You get really used to “bingo fuel” like you do in an aircraft. Not a problem. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 5:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck so you have to plot your workday based on access to sufficient charging sources and

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread chuck
+|1000 From: Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 5:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Steve, I don't believe you understand how fast charging is for Tesla. My model 3 can charge at up to 150KW so if I pull into a charger at 10% ba

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Prince
malFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 5:56:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Rotflmao, apple had a product everybody wanted, even if they didnt know it

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Mike Hammett
lFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 5:56:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Rotflmao, apple had a product everybody wanted, even if they didnt know it yet. I guess i just come from a time before men wore skinny jeans, manbuns and perfectly tailored lumberj

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Steve Jones
is thing. Only one publication speculated that the >>>>> base model with 250 mile range (the $39,900 one) would have a ~~ 75KWh >>>>> battery. Of course it is pure speculation, but that would result in about >>>>> 111 MPGe. Can't do that with your di

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Josh Luthman
is pure speculation, but that would result in about >>>> 111 MPGe. Can't do that with your diesel Silverado. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/24/2019 7:36 PM, Robert wrote: >>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Mike Hammett
ot;AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 2:45:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck A. Why does musk get a free pass every time he over promises and under delivers? B. Why would anybody with any modicum of testosterone buy an overpriced truck that doesnt hav

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Am I the only one who thinks it looks like an updated Volkswagen Thing? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 2:59 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck 1 - I think he's been plenty brutalized (have you read Seeking Alpha, Forbes, or M

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Steve Jones
>>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/24/2019 7:36 PM, Robert wrote: >>> >>> I think I figured out the design... Prototype name was the Cyberf117 >>> >>> >>> On 11/24/19 6:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >&

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Mathew Howard
gt;>> >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/23/2019 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> Review says the exterior is all “stabby” but the inside is comfy. >>> >>> https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/t

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Prince
nt: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck   Considering the size of it, and the fact that it

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Prince
.    From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread chuck
I have 62 kWh in my leaf. I can reliably get 175 miles with some reserve. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Considering the size of it, and the fact that it's mostly made out of relatively

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Mathew Howard
the Cyberf117 > > > On 11/24/19 6:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I want one with a Boston Scientific dog in the back. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > >

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-25 Thread Bill Prince
46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck   Tesla production models roaming the streets is scary enough without the nightma

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-24 Thread Chuck McCown
I want one with a Boston Scientific dog in the back. From: Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Tesla production models roaming the streets is scary enough without the nightmare of prototypes creeping

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-24 Thread Steve Jones
ad assumed it was a > non functional prototype just for show. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *Robert > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > > > Oh, he didn't opt for

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-23 Thread Bill Prince
.     From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck   Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete o

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
. From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete option, which comes with a $4K/cupholder CREDIT... On 11/22/19 4:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I was just going by what Robert sa

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Robert
>     *From: *"Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> >     *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe German cars come with stein holders? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 6:54 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of them. bp On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
>     *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >     j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> >     *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group&quo

Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Tim Hardy
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Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Prince
t;> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave

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