And I'm back! Been sick so haven't check my mails lately.. and I wanted to
answer this thread. I tried to answer only the important bits to avoid
making it super long to read/reply again.
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:17:01
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:10:24 -0400
Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
And I'm back! Been sick so haven't check my mails lately.. and I wanted to
answer this thread. I tried to answer only the important bits to avoid
making it super long to read/reply again.
On Tue, Nov 1,
Lots of snippage, to avoid making it super long to wade through all the
stuff that has been said before to get to the new bits. Hope I did not
mess up the attributions.
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:10:24 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:59 AM,
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote:
Lots of snippage, to avoid making it super long to wade through all the
stuff that has been said before to get to the new bits. Hope I did not
mess up the attributions.
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 12:10:24 -0400 Youness Alaoui
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:46:16 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
wrote:
And as I've been told numerous times a release is free.. what
is it that you lose when you do a release, what's so important
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:17 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:46:16 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
wrote:
And as I've been told numerous times a release is
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, David Seikel wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:56:57 -0700 (PDT) P Purkayastha
ppu...@gmail.com wrote:
/me eagerly waits for raster to write a book titled The path to
Enlightenment :-)
when we (the french guys) created the association, we had to register it
to the Journal
Hi, I'm not responding to the entire thread because it's pointless...
only one thing below.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:41:44 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi said:
On Sunday, October 30, 2011,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
Hi, I'm not responding to the entire thread because it's pointless...
only one thing below.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:41:44 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
Hi, I'm not responding to the entire thread because it's pointless...
only one thing below.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
wrote:
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:23:37AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is after
fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is.
the
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Carsten Haitzler
ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:05:20 -0400 Youness
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:35:01 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri
vto...@univ-evry.fr
said:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
we released efl 1.0 back at the start of the year...
is
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM,
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com wrote:
calm down. the TODO is a collection of things most developers agree to
be necessary for a release. if you want a release to happen earlier
work on it.
Speek for yourself.
Lucas De Marchi
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
Well I don't think so, but if you really think people can't live
without it (and can't live without e17), then someone has to make it
work by the time the deadline is reached. If not, then too bad, if
you
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:14:20 +0100 Tomas Cech tc...@suse.cz said:
Sorry for getting into this discussion only as E user.
E17 is already very well usable and stable. When I shown E to my
colleagues at SUSE, they were surprised how fast and usable it is and
three already switched their
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:19:17 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler
ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:35:01 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri
vto...@univ-evry.fr
said:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Carsten
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
Yeah yeah, you've made that pretty clear already, the thing is, we give
reasons why this would be better, but your only argument is because I
don't want to
that list there on the release page was a result
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:38:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com said:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
Well I don't think so, but if you really think people can't live
without it (and can't live without e17), then someone has to
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:04:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:38:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
said:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
Well I don't think so, but
2011/11/1 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:04:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:38:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
said:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:46:19 -0200 Iván Briano (Sachiel)
sachi...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/11/1 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:04:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:38:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
/me eagerly waits for raster to write a book titled The path to
Enlightenment :-)
On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 9:38:17 AM UTC+8, The Rasterman Carsten
Haitzler wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:19:17 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kaka...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM,
2011/11/1 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:46:19 -0200 Iván Briano (Sachiel)
sachi...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/11/1 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:04:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:46 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com wrote:
On
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:56:57 -0700 (PDT) P Purkayastha
ppu...@gmail.com wrote:
/me eagerly waits for raster to write a book titled The path to
Enlightenment :-)
rofl
--
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:00:26 -0200 Iván Briano (Sachiel)
sachi...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/11/1 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:46:19 -0200 Iván Briano (Sachiel)
sachi...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/11/1 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:04:40 +0900
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:19:17 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler
ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:35:01 +0100 (CET)
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:12:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:19:17 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
Ok.. so I don't understand, you're
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
Yeah yeah, you've made that pretty clear already, the thing is, we give
reasons why this would be better, but your only
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:01:59 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
Maybe the reason why raster is doing all
the work and nobody works on that TODO is because this is an open source
project, so everyone works on it on their own free time, which means they
only do
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 00:17:01 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:56 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
Yeah yeah, you've made that
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:05:20 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
i'm already working on taskbar. i've fixed horizontal sizing issues
already. i
need to fix theme up. t_unix has pending
More users means more exposure means more contributions and how can you be
so arrogant as to judge these would-be developers as being not worth
talking about before you've actually seen their work, you might be
surprised. This attitude is maybe the real reason as to why the dev
community is so
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
The purpose of this thread (and probably all the previous
discussions) is to get a point across, the release is needed, and
most people think that there is no point in delaying it, but if
you're too
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:42 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
The purpose of this thread (and probably all the previous
discussions) is to get a point across, the release is needed, and
most
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:34:57 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:42 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
The purpose of this thread (and
Sorry David, but what we are trying to show is that we have a psychological
problem. Going code to solve the technical problem is not solving the worst
one, the psychological.
At IRC we also talked about the shameful behavior post 1.0 EFL. We did a
release since the technical details were over,
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:57 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:34:57 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:42 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:07:30 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Carsten Haitzler
ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:05:20 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
i'm already working on taskbar.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:14:24 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
More users means more exposure means more contributions and how can you be
so arrogant as to judge these would-be developers as being not worth
talking about before you've actually seen their work, you
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
we released efl 1.0 back at the start of the year...
is there a massive rise in developers? :)
the EFL without kick-ass apps, showing we can do more than the other
similar libraries, are useless. So it's not really surprising.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:56:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi said:
Sorry David, but what we are trying to show is that we have a psychological
problem. Going code to solve the technical problem is not solving the worst
one, the psychological.
At IRC we also talked
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:35:01 +0100 (CET) Vincent Torri vto...@univ-evry.fr
said:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
we released efl 1.0 back at the start of the year...
is there a massive rise in developers? :)
the EFL without kick-ass apps, showing we can
On Sunday, October 30, 2011, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:56:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi said:
Sorry David, but what we are trying to show is that we have a
psychological
problem. Going code to solve the technical problem is
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:41:44 -0200
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
On Sunday, October 30, 2011, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:56:07 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi said:
Sorry David, but what we are
On 10/29/11 01:28, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:51:53 -0400 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net
said:
Well mate, slap it into svn somewhere and we can all jump into the fun
;) (time permitting of course).
i will - this weekend, i hope.
Cool :)
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:51:53 -0400 Christopher Michael
cpmicha...@comcast.net
said:
Agreed. But to 'jump the gun' and release early (read: earlier than
ready) at this stage is just silly. Take a little more time,
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Christopher Michael
cpmicha...@comcast.net wrote:
On 10/28/11 22:23, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAILcedric.b...@free.fr said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Michael Jennings m...@kainx.org wrote:
On Saturday, 29 October 2011, at 11:23:37 (+0900),
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is
after
fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays
Hi guys,
I've started this discussion with Gustavo and Cedric back in Prague, and
haven't had time to check my mails until now (doing it from the airport).
I will summarize the stuff I've told them and i'm sorry if I'm repeating
some of the things that were already said in this thread. I will
Thanks Gustavo, you said many of the same things that I just said (email was
written async) and you made me realize one point... the WM world is
constantly changing, when we are ready for release, some new thing will come
out and then we need to adapt again... E17 was the most beautiful WM out
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:05:20 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
i'm already working on taskbar. i've fixed horizontal sizing issues already. i
need to fix theme up. t_unix has pending patches for xrandr multi-screen i have
yet to look at - if someone wants a release them
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:10:21 -0400 Youness Alaoui
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net said:
we won't catch up because no one works on e17. no one is interested in it
anymore and a release won't change that/ 99% of the development effort is on
EFL not e.
Thanks Gustavo, you said many of the same
Hello all,
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
Recently I've talked to people and while I tried to express it at IRC,
raster just got pissed and left. Later people would join and agree
with me... so while I'm
WHY RELEASE?
1. to clarify we know some snapshot is usable. This will get us in
more distributions by default.
2. to remove that stupid karma over the 17 number if e. Will help
people that do not track us closely to know we're reasonable serious.
3. we can start to bring in new
As an end user, I too feel e17 should get out. Nothing much has changed in
core e over the past year, except for dialogs, and reshuffling of menus,
addition of shot module, and some polish over the past 3-4 months into
making it work better with desktop files and with startup applications of
Hi,
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
Recently I've talked to people and while I tried to express it at IRC,
raster just
On Friday, October 28, 2011 10:24:07 PM UTC+8, Cedric BAIL wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barb...@profusion.mobi wrote:
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
Recently
On 28/10/11 15:07, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
WHY RELEASE?
1. to clarify we know some snapshot is usable. This will get us in
more distributions by default.
2. to remove that stupid karma over the 17 number if e. Will help
people that do not track us closely to know we're
Hi,
2011/10/28 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi:
Hello all,
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
Recently I've talked to people and while I tried to express it at IRC,
raster just got pissed and
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:07:45 -0200
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
Hello all,
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
Recently I've talked to people and while I tried to express it at IRC,
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:07:45 -0200
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
Recently
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:24:56 +0200 Nicolas Aguirre aguirre.nico...@gmail.com
said:
Hi,
2011/10/28 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi:
Hello all,
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and everyone can opine without
being in one place at one time (IRC/#edevelop).
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is after
fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is.
the reason xrandr is on the todo is that there are many complaints and
On Saturday, 29 October 2011, at 11:23:37 (+0900),
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is after
fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is.
the reason xrandr is on the todo is that there are many complaints and
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:23:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr
said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as
is after fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that?
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200
Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz m...@zentific.com wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:07:45 -0200
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
I'm writing this mail so it's unified and
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 10:23:37 AM UTC+8, The Rasterman Carsten
Haitzler wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAIL cedri...@free.fr said:
the reason taskbar is there is because engage is compositing based
realistically
and we have to work without, and we again have had
On 10/28/11 22:23, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAILcedric.b...@free.fr said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is after
fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is.
Sorry, cannot
On 10/28/11 22:55, Michael Jennings wrote:
On Saturday, 29 October 2011, at 11:23:37 (+0900),
Carsten Haitzler wrote:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is
after
fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is.
the reason xrandr is on
On 10/28/11 22:58, David Seikel wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:23:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAILcedric.b...@free.fr
said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as
is after
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:25:55 -0400 Christopher Michael cpmicha...@comcast.net
said:
On 10/28/11 22:23, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAILcedric.b...@free.fr said:
i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is
On 10/29/11 00:44, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:25:55 -0400 Christopher Michaelcpmicha...@comcast.net
said:
On 10/28/11 22:23, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:46:55 +0200 Cedric BAILcedric.b...@free.fr said:
i'll post here
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:51:53 -0400 Christopher Michael cpmicha...@comcast.net
said:
Well mate, slap it into svn somewhere and we can all jump into the fun
;) (time permitting of course).
i will - this weekend, i hope.
Agreed. But to 'jump the gun' and release early (read: earlier than
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