f /usr/portage and check against
the directory manifests?
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cleanup.gz
Description: Binary data
ave a workaround), I'll look at the profile jump.
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:41:06AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
> I'm on 6.3.0 on x86, which is currently unstable on *ALL* arches, and
> "emerge -pv =sys-devel/gcc-6.3.0" shows "(-pie)".
And x86 32-bit gcc-
t's an ancient 2008 CORE2 with 3 gigs of ram, but it works fine for
me, including Youtube 1080P streaming.
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t inits, with as many "elif"
lines as you care to add. But, how do we reliably detect the currently
running init system? Are there running processes, or entries in /sys/
or /proc/ or /dev that are unique to to each init system?
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. If someone has a better idea of doing this simple
> lowercase/uppercase change that satisifies PMS at all versions I am
> happy to revisit.
Is "sed -e" allowed? E.g.
[d531][waltdnes][~] echo "AbCd" | sed -e 's/\(.*\)/\L\1/'
abcd
[d531][waltdnes][~] echo "AbC
has instead merged 64-bit to lib.
> > So it seems to me that there is no "mainstream" to follow.
> > Perhaps striving for the cleanest solution would be the best?
>
> Debian puts 64-bit libs in /lib/(host), where (host) is something like
> x86_64-linux-gnu. They
everything "just
because". I recommend mostly keeping our current setup, with one
change, i.e. allowing security-fix ebuilds to go "stable" immediately.
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If the owner of the
module is not listed in "/etc/vimodule.nopurge", delete the module.
Option B) Integrate this functionality into Portage. During the install
process, check if the ebuild being installed is listed in
"/etc/vimodule.nopurge". If not, skip installing files into the vim
modules directory. If "/etc/vimodule.nopurge" doesn't exist, or
"NEEDSCONFIGFIRST" has not been commented out, allow the modules to be
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d "How do I tweak Portage to do this, that, and
the other".
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.
emerge --depclean --verbose =fu-bar/xyz-1.2.3
Before running "./cleanscript", I check it for problems. Here's the
autodepclean script...
#!/bin/bash
# autodepclean script v 0.04 released under GPL v3 by Walter Dnes 2012/07/09
# Generates a file "cleanscript" to
On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 09:49:08AM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 05:24:19 -0400
> "Walter Dnes" <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote:
>
> > Yes, for gcc.
>
> Which if someone ignores warnings, and breaks their system, it is on
> them
uot;emerge --depclean" after deleting from /etc/portage/package_rdepend
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On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 09:32:09PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 20:27:38 -0400
> "Walter Dnes" <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Though I will have to see what happens if a package is listed in
> > > m
lang/python-2.7.3
>=dev-lang/yasm-1.0.1
>=dev-libs/glib-2.24
dev-vcs/git
media-libs/fontconfig
>=media-libs/freetype-2.1.0
media-libs/mesa
=sys-devel/autoconf-2.13
sys-devel/gcc
<=x11-libs/gtk+-3.0
x11-libs/libXt
28 14:50 package.use.mask
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35 Aug 8 2015 parent
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:41:11PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote
> Am Sonntag, 11. Juni 2017, 20:39:00 CEST schrieb Walter Dnes:
> > 1) Should I be doing bug reports on the Gentoo bugzilla or upstream?
>
> Gentoo please, though also submitting stuff upstream and linking to
>
n the simplest case users only have to change the
> /etc/portage/make.profile symlink, in the worst case they may have
> to recompile the entire system from scratch while doing a neat
> voodoo dance.
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On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 01:14:31PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote
> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 09:38:01 -0400
> "Walter Dnes" <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote:
>
> > As mentioned elsewhere, what happens when two or three other
> > people do their own forks? Plugin 1 work
on of
Ad Block Plus to ensure that it works on Pale Moon..
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built binaries like Pale Moon (from
their website), firefox-bin, seamonkey-bin, openoffice-bin,
libreoffice-bin, libreproject-bin, etc.
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evel. Regular users should
not have to follow this list. Even if you're not going to alter course
regardless of feedback, at least let users know so they're not caught
unawares. If nothing else, post news items to Gentoo-user ***AHEAD OF
TIME*** warning about changes like these.
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ng a hard-coded dependancy on systemd
* etc, etc
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ad. But
after the separate /usr fiasco, I don't feel I have any choice. If we
could have a guarantee of proposed changes like that being posted on
Gentoo-User for comment, rather than being sprung on users by surprise,
I'd be willing to sign off this list.
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s that Intel came up with a radically different design for
Itanium, versus x86, specifically to avoid a cross-licencing agreement
that allows AMD to clone Intel x86 and x86_64 cpus.
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ng PIE by default (via a default-enabled
> use-flag pie) in regular (non-hardened) profiles.
Has anyone checked 32-bit systems? "emerge -pv =sys-devel/gcc-6.3.0"
on a 2008 Core2duo 32-bit install (my GCC 6.3.0 testbed) shows "(-pie)".
I read that as the "pie" U
flag means something entirely different for
harfbuzz, i.e. build media-libs/harfbuzz against media-gfx/graphite2
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The include script to use gcc 5.4.0 differs in only the first line...
###
export GCCX_ROOT=$HOME/gcc540
###
Would the various "export" commands work if inserted into make.conf?
Actually, would they even need the
l wait for other people to experience
problems. If nothing major, I might switch at a convenient time.
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zen, all changes require RM approval).
Development: GCC 8.0 Status: 2017-04-20 (regression fixes & docs only).
Maybe we should what many enterprises do with Windows; i.e. skip a
version and go straight to gcc-6.
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ible"
Mixing together does not seem to work.
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ere's no need to go JSON format (bleagh). To simplify
parsing, fields for one arch should be clustered together.
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the last stage before masking. It would
deliberately break the build, and require the user/admin to take manual
action (add the flag for the GLEP) before proceeding further. This is
a heavy-handed method, but masking is more final.
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ll probably have a shorter USE line
if I start USE with "-*", and I will not have a larger package.use file.
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et a flag to one of 2-or-more options?
> 4 To make the default build agree with the maintainer's personal
> preferences.
>
> * Example: enabling hpn in net-misc/openssh by default.
Another example is IPV6 which most people do not yet have from their
ISP as a regular serv
the realm of
regular Gentoo. If anybody has problems, they can go to generic Gentoo
support forums/lists for help.
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I plug-ins
> * XPCOM binary components for extensions
> * Overlay and bootstrapped extensions, including restartless ones
> * Access to low-level APIs from extensions
> * Pale Moon Sync (in the secure, time-tested Weave fashion)
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inux installation" has a multi-terabyte hard
drive attached. There are small laptops with SSDs instead of spinning
disks.
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optional
> Graphite loop optimizations.
That approach guarantees that the appropriate library versions are
available for the version of GCC that you're building.
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...gives 1814 *UNIQUE* packages, usually vith multiple ebuild versions
for each package.
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gt; to have gcc, but may still need libstdc++.
That just moves the requirement for gcc+tools to the catalyst build
farm. OK, let's get specific... a *STANDALONE* Gentoo machine requires
gcc+tools.
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plain text. So it can be done properly for everybody.
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decode ANSI. A nice feature of mc is that I can
sort the file list by various options. When looking at emerge output in
/var/log/portage/elog, I want to sort by file-modify-time, so I can
easily see which files were output in the most recent emerge run.
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I don't
syslog files is paved with good intentions, or
something like that. Question... why does it have to be escape
sequences? Can't it be readable plain text? E.g. something like...
//STDERR.OUT.START
foo
bar
blah blah blah
//STDERR.OUT.END
This would be easy to grep and/or parse in bash.
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'
==
See https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463954
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packages that get updated as often as vanilla
sources? Maybe they should be considered for a similar policy.
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the
wording should be a more generic make a backup copy of /etc. I also
recommend backing up /var/lib, which contains iptables rules, alsa
state, portage world, and other goodies.
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, we all know
that.
greg k-h
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have other options than just systemd?
Again, how do you force a rogue upstream development team to follow
*YOUR* rules? Answer; you can't. If you want GNOME-like goodness,
consider Cinnamon/Consort/Mate/Kate/etc/etc. I'm a neutral observer of
this entire mess... see my sig.
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that working, then worry about upgrading to GNOME 3.8
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On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:16:37AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote
Though, an init system standard might be the most promising approach.
Ahemmm http://xkcd.com/927/
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the top of my head... XFCE, Cinnamon, Consort, Mint, Mate, Kate,
Unity, etc, etc. If you don't like GNOME, try one of them.
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:54 /etc/wgetrc
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a separate item from the USE flag. Since I've never used the gpm USE
flag, I have to ask... what additional goodies does USE=gpm bring to
the table? How exactly, does it improve things beyond the basic
sys-libs/gpm?
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote
On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE
flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server.
[...]
If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote
On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE
flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server.
[...]
If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install
over at the storage space he keeps his
bicycles in...
So what colour would your storage space be?
I think mauve has the most ram http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-17/
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a PYTHON_TARGETS_PYTHON2
variable, python2_7 will also work fine.)
Out of sheer curiousity, why does make.conf need all 3 of...
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
USE_PYTHON=2.7
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
), but if I did want to apply custom
patches, I think the right approach would be to somewhere manually
modify UNIPATCH_LIST. If that approach won't work, maybe a USE_EXPAND
flag make.conf might be the way to go. E.g. CUSTOM_PATCH=foo bar
would resolve to USE=custom_patch_foo custom_patch_bar
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see how busybox development justifies an additional layer
of complexity for everybody's bootup.
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to the Gentoo user mailing list ;)
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
In order for a different init system to come up, some file(s)
somewhere *MUST* be different, no ifs/ands/ors/buts.
How true is this in general? It is usually only a change of the init
the bootloader (lilo/grub). It can
boot Gentoo, Fedora, BSD, any special-purpose kernel you wish, and even
Windows 7 for that matter.
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, a
separate partition would also prevent standard utilities from stomping
all over their busybox symlink equivalants. Add another entry to the
grub/lilo menu, and boot from that.
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the harddrive, you can still boot from the ISO, chroot into
the system on the harddrive, and send emails to the gentoo-user list
asking for help G.
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that
it would be more robust for the installer to decide which files are of
type X, and not install them in the first place. This approach does
not risk wiping files from another program in the same directory. And
preventative action is generally better than cleaning up after the fact.
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systemd config files would be installed regardless
of flags. Therefore udev/eudev don't have systemd flags. But both
have openrc flags, and will not run OK on an openrc machine without
the openrc flag.
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MMX2 support.
...shouldn't mmxext be moved out of use.local.desc into use.desc?
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USE flag be the appropriate one to key on?
The description in /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc says...
systemd - Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and features like
socket activation or session tracking
Surely, units files qualify as systemd-specific features.
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.
Then howsabout a units ebuild that installs all available units
files for systemd users? The overhead of the files' presence is
trivial, and most systemd users won't care.
The thread title says it all... normal Gentoo users don't use systemd.
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I don't run
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:10:33AM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote
On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 23:26 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:17:35PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote
It impacts users who use stable keywords and are therefore stuck with
GNOME-2.32
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:22:56AM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 04:19 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
I think I just realized what this means. I run ICEWM, not GNOME.
GNUMERIC and ABIWORWD and GIMP are the 3 GNOME apps that I use a lot.
Do I have to emerge GNOME-BASE
us than the theoretically stable GNOME-2.32).
And the real solution is to finally stabilize some release of GNOME-3.x
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that stable was that far
behind. Now to see how much I have to keyword.
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. At least the
following search is suggested...
grep -rl eth[0-9] /etc /var/lib
Also any custom firewall/routing/network scripts in other locations
should be searched for references to eth[0-9].
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to be modified by users.
Fun for users, and app upstreams.
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. A newer Gentoo user, e.g. me a few
years ago, might have given up.
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On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 04:47:09PM +0800, Greg KH wrote
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 02:01:31AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:44:33PM -0100, Carlos Silva wrote
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I'm not a C programmer, let
do
better than VESA. Give drivers 2 options...
1) direct kernel access like now
2) access via the HAL/shim
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On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:44:33PM -0100, Carlos Silva wrote
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so this may be a stupid
question, but here goes... has anyone ever tried doing a HAL (Hardware
Abstraction
can find them elsewhere, but it would still be
convenient for me.)
Maybe a note in the install docs to run...
emerge --info | grep ^USE
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. There
are just too many individual scenarios. A truly minimal build should be
sufficient to boot to a text console, and have networking and portage to
be able to build further up the chain.
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everybody. I suggest a minimal profile instead. It would boot to a
text console, and have networking and portage, allowing you to build
further.
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 07:09:29AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote
On Jan 17, 2013 3:35 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
wrote:
If someone wants a *REALLY* basic system, they can start off with
USE=-* and add
=-* and add on stuff as necessary when portage complains and/or
ebuilds break. That's what I'd recommend to someone wanting to set up a
basic server machine.
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was able to Google the solution on my
desktop machine... http://en.spontex.org/forum/thread/561/1/ I'm
posting a heads up on the user list.
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On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +, Duncan wrote
Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted:
[Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs
from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX.
Agreed, to this point.
Actually
-181
or higher system with a separate /usr, and no intrd/initramfs, I'm sure
a lot of people would be very interested in knowing how.
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rejected. Then whenever anyone complains about not sharing code,
show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails from systemd/udev maintainers.
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device. Also keep in mind that any data on
sdb will be wiped after running the dd command.
Thanks. Much easier than the instructions on the Gentoo wiki.
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are working on getting it signed by the needed
Microsoft keys right now.)
He's already done the heavy lifting. Aren't you re-inventing the
wheel?
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to installation, it would make the base of a good
system rescue utility.
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it would
have a one-time inconvenience, but at least their systems wouldn't be
automagically screwed up.
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video
performance. The netbook can now play 1080p HD Youtube videos in the
large player. Not fullscreen. Before this, 1080p would stutter
badly, even in Youtube's small player.
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://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo (the Arch Linux
wiki) or else copied large portions of that page. I followed their
instructions, but it did not help. I'll do some more testing first, to
see if I can narrow down the bug.
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tweaking.
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as when xpdf was dropped? I
vaguely remember emerge --update --deep world stopping with a message
that xpdf was being dropped, and also a few alternatives were suggested
in the message.
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is at least unofficially
involved in udev is don't complain to me, complain to Lennart.
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We are apparently better off trying to avoid udev like the plague.
Linus Torvalds; 2012/10/03 https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/349
-mounted /usr to boot properly. What I'm complaining about is that
the other 99% of udev users are now gratuitously forced to share the
pain of the edge case users.
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We are apparently better off trying to avoid udev like the plague.
Linus Torvalds; 2012/10/03 https
included.
Kay and company have been rather cavalier in breaking systems in the
past. Richard Yao is working on an insurance policy, just in case Kay
and company do it again.
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We are apparently better off trying to avoid udev like the plague.
Linus Torvalds; 2012
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