Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 29. Mai 2015 um 08:52 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Da die Übergänge zwischen den Wasserflächen von Flüssen, Kanälen und Seen (im doppelten Wortsinn) fließend sind, finde ich das neue Schema logisch und praktikabel. verstehe ich nicht. Es ist doch egal ob man water=river oder

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Michele Mondelli
Si, vedo Mancuno giovedì mattina! Immagino non ci siano problemi per la collaborazione del Comune. Appena incassata quello organizziamo un hangout. Il giorno 29 maggio 2015 10:14, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: La settimana prossima vado a parlare con il Comune, per

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Harald Hartmann
Zitat von Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de: und der Umstieg von waterway=riverbank auf natural=water + water=river wird dies verstärken, denn das water=river wird dann oft - weil scheinbar unnötig - weggelassen. Insgesamt eine schlechte Entwicklung. Ich würde deshalb grundsätzlich

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Arch Arch
I don’t think that it’s a good idea to rely on a external database. (inconsistency, overhead for map producers/developers, different toolchains, etc.) If the name:xx is just a simple transliteration you won’t need Wikidata, you can use algorithms for producing a map in the foreign language.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-28 23:00 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: On 28 May 2015 at 09:50, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: e.g. the en:Spanish Steps / de:Spanische Treppe are called Scalinata di Trinità dei Monti in the local language (it is located at piazza di

Re: [Talk-at] disput um wohnprojekt

2015-05-29 Thread Py Mayly
Hallo nochmal. Jetzt steht da landuse temporary die anderen Tags wurden gelöscht, gibt gar kein rendering mehr, ist das Absicht? Ich glaub schon! http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/340080115#map=16/48.2287/16.5228 Irgendwo war noch eine Diskussion zum Objekt bei den Notes, aber ich finde die grad

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2015-05-27

2015-05-29 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@

[OSM-talk-fr] tag et point-virgule

2015-05-29 Thread bernard
Bonjour, J'ai remarqué qu'Osmose n'appréciait pas que les valeurs soient séparées par des point-virgules. Or, des pages wiki le proposent Qu'en est-il? Il est mentionné dans la FAQ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:FAQ Valeur avec ou sans point-virgule? Merci de votre réponse Bernard

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
La settimana prossima vado a parlare con il Comune, per presentare l'iniziativa e parlare di eventuale patrocinio. Just for info: il vice-sindaco di Siena mi ha contattato di recente proprio sul tema. Lui sta lavorando su Siena Città Intelligente e quindi il tutto è di interesse.

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 29 May 2015, Stephan Wolff wrote: Das würde ein weltweites Tagging-Schema zerstören... Da die Übergänge zwischen den Wasserflächen von Flüssen, Kanälen und Seen (im doppelten Wortsinn) fließend sind, finde ich das neue Schema logisch und praktikabel. Das ist genau der Knackpunkt

Re: [Talk-tr] openstreetmap.org.tr

2015-05-29 Thread yusuf ülkü
Açılmışmıydı ki org.tr To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:52:55 +0300 From: em...@katpatuka.org Subject: [Talk-tr] openstreetmap.org.tr merhabalar, openstreetmap.org.tr çıkmıyor artık... Fakat domain adı 2019-05-30 kadar geçerli...

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
2015-05-29 10:43 GMT+02:00 Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com: Si, vedo Mancuno giovedì mattina! occhio che si chiama MancuSo :) Immagino non ci siano problemi per la collaborazione del Comune. Quello no, quello che invece reput[iam]o importante è la formula che deve prima di tutto

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
2015-05-29 10:47 GMT+02:00 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: 2015-05-29 10:43 GMT+02:00 Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com: Si, vedo Mancuno giovedì mattina! occhio che si chiama MancuSo :) Immagino non ci siano problemi per la collaborazione del Comune. Quello no, quello che

Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 09:16, David Woolley wrote: There are ways of reversing changes exactly, but they are difficult to use if there have been ad hoc attempts to repair in the mean time, as you have to reverse those repairs first and you need to distinguish them from legitimate changes that

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Aury88
rispondo qui, ma è un commento ad un po' tutte le risposte fatte dagli altri. A mio avviso l'obiettivo di queste conferenze dovrebbe essere prima di tutto far conoscere il progetto e poi realizzare un qualcosa per far fare esperienza e creare affiatamento nella community...per community già ben

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 07:07, Andrew Hain wrote: Thank you Dave. As a British mapper I am ashamed that some people want to make the map of my country less useful, and not only to Russian speakers a long way away. Hang on, where is _anybody_ saying that? The whole point of the thread is about whether

Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-29 Thread David Woolley
On 29/05/15 00:46, Colin Smale wrote: Thanks to the people who pointed me at helpful tools. I have fixed it up as best as I can for the moment - obviously erroneous stretches of coastline have been removed, missing segments have been added where a bridge has been inserted, that kind of thing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Andrew Hain
Dave Corley davecorley at gmail.com writes: Lastly, and I think this is important point. To quote the wiki header . the project that creates and distributes free geographic data for the world. Either this is a database of worldwide geodata or its not. There's no half-way in that statement.

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 29.05.2015 um 06:25 schrieb Markus: Habe hier eine merkwürdige Änderung entdeckt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:waterway=riverdiff=nextoldid=1176333 Das würde ein weltweites Tagging-Schema zerstören... Da die Übergänge zwischen den Wasserflächen von Flüssen, Kanälen

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 12:51, Maarten Deen wrote: It depends on what you want. When someone asks me to navigate to Natanzon, Haifa how can I enter it when the only name in the map is נתנזון, חיפה? I don't see why the transliterated name is not important. No-one is saying that the transliterated

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: It depends on what you want. When someone asks me to navigate to Natanzon, Haifa how can I enter it when the only name in the map is נתנזון, חיפה? Your software should know about both names (so that you can search for either) and show you the

[Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-05-29 Thread Robin Däneke
Hallo zusammen,Ich habe vor ein paar Tagen in Wien die Buslinien so angepasst, dass sie richtig auf der Thunderforest Transport Map richtig gerendert werden, und mit der Overpass-api.de gut angezeigt wird. Das Problem ist, dass es dann nicht mehr mit dem public_transport:v2 Schema

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 12:14, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: how do we distinguish in the Abergavenny case between the two established names and the up to 7,000 (but realistically in the short term a few hundred) translations? That's unfortunately

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: I'd say that whether or not a name is actually usable to help navigate to a place is a pretty important piece of information. True. And that what name should give you. The name:CC tags should not be a hindrance, at most they should be

Re: [Talk-se] Utskrifter av svenska kartan

2015-05-29 Thread Per Eric Rosén
Det där lät intressant. Kan du berätta lite mer om vad du beräknar, och hur? Jag har mitt kart-projekt något vilande just nu dessvärre, så har inte detaljer direkt i huvudet. Kan återkomma när det kommer igång! Men i princip att räkna antal objekt i en viss klass (till exempel amenity, shop,

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, p...@trigpoint.me.uk p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Fri May 29 11:27:41 2015 GMT+0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: Even if it was justified, the reversals were either sloppy or biased : see http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10021976/history which got name:ru Лестер deleted but

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-05-29 13:34, SomeoneElse wrote: On 29/05/2015 12:14, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: how do we distinguish in the Abergavenny case between the two established names and the up to 7,000 (but realistically in the short term a few

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Marc Gemis
I'd say that whether or not a name is actually usable to help navigate to a place is a pretty important piece of information. For example, when processing OSM data for my own use I'll try and drop unsigned names and refs from roads (there's no point in saying turn left on Foo Street if Foo

Re: [OSM-talk-be] For OSM copyright enforcers: strangest map yet

2015-05-29 Thread Ruben Maes
Hi It reminds me somehow of this service: http://afstandmeten.nl/ They have a similar multi-background map, but they got the attribution right. Do we have a template for copyright letters? If we haven't, perhaps now's the time to make them. So far, I've written two copyright emails[1] (in

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:14 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: And as it happens, Абергавенни comes from Abergavenny rather than Y Fenni, showing that some discernment was applied. Not sure I understand that statement, transliterating Y Fenni is equally valid in my view. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonie picarde à vélo / ODBL compatible ?

2015-05-29 Thread Matthieu Gaillet
Merci André, mais pas d’affolement : j’ai reçu d’IDETA des signes encourageants, ils ne sont pas totalement fermé à l’idée de libérer leurs données. Simplement, ça va à la vitesse de l’administration. Wait and see. Matthieu On 29 May 2015, at 11:53, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Single handedly deleting hundreds of name:ru on nodes without an alternative in place instantly made map less useful. Upphafleg skilaboð Frá: SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk Dagsetning: 29/05/2015 07:53 (GMT+00:00) Til: talk@openstreetmap.org Efni: Re: [OSM-talk] Can

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 29 May 2015 at 09:58, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-05-28 23:00 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: On 28 May 2015 at 09:50, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: e.g. the en:Spanish Steps / de:Spanische Treppe are called Scalinata di

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 29 May 2015 at 09:57, Arch Arch 7h3.a...@gmail.com wrote: If the foreign name differs from the transliteration I think no one would oppose to add the name into the OSM database. Then you haven't been paying attention to this thread. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 29.05.2015 11:45, Arch Arch napisał(a): I don't think that's a good idea to try to solve the problems we're faced with by our current OSM data model by setting up a second database. We need an improved data model which fits our needs. Current OSM data model is not flexible enough for

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 10:42, Nick Whitelegg wrote: You don't even need on the ground evidence. You just need someone ... or something ... with knowledge of Cyrillic and Roman alphabets to be able to transliterate Abergavenny into the Cyrillic, presumably. Absolutely. But leaving aside whether

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:58 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: What's wrong with name ? What's the UK policy on the content of name for places with Welsh and English names ? If you want to see Welsh names as often as possible but still make the local name more prominent, use local name (welsh

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 29 May 2015, Harald Hartmann wrote: und dafür gibt es QA Tools wie Osmose und Co. ... wobei ich damit auch gerade [1] am verzweifeln bin, weil ich nicht weiss wie ich/man (Bach-) Zuflüsse zu (Stau-) Seen taggt. Waterways können/sollen in Seen durchgezeichnet werden, zum Beispiel wie

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
2015-05-29 11:10 GMT+02:00 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: ho scritto reput[iam]o e non reputiamo proprio per dire che reputo ma so che non sono il solo a pensarla così. ma allora queste persone potrebbero organizzare l'evento? ;-) Il timore è che finisca che ci sia bassa

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Exactly. Us Western Europeans would find Romanised versions of names useful when travelling out of Western Europe (to give a real example: I'm visiting Greece this summer, and while I'm just about at the stage where I think I can decode the Greek alphabet, Romanised versions are definitely

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jo
We need our own OSMdata instance in between to describe real world objects and concepts. And maybe we could even solve the ridiculous amount of duplication we're experiencing at the moment. True, the editor software will have to be adapted to cope with merges and splits, so the human editor can

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, Christoph Hormann schrieb: Ich würde deshalb grundsätzlich empfehlen, im Allgemeinen bei der Verwendung von waterway=riverbank für Flüsse zu bleiben und bei der Verwendung von natural=water *immer* ein water=* zu taggen. sehe ich auch so, mache ich auch so. Ich mach das aber noch aus

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 29/05/2015 07:07, Andrew Hain wrote: Thank you Dave. As a British mapper I am ashamed that some people want to make the map of my country less useful, and not only to Russian speakers a long way away. Hang on, where is _anybody_

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-05-29 12:05, SomeoneElse wrote: A question to those suggesting Абергавенни as a name:ru for Abergavenny / Y Fenni - how to distinguish the latter (both are names that you can to compare with signposts to see that you're going in the right direction) with the former (which you can't, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: how do we distinguish in the Abergavenny case between the two established names and the up to 7,000 (but realistically in the short term a few hundred) translations? That's unfortunately something that name:xx in OSM doesn't give us

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Arch Arch
I don't think that's a good idea to try to solve the problems we're faced with by our current OSM data model by setting up a second database. We need an improved data model which fits our needs. Am 29.05.2015 um 11:28 schrieb Jo: We need our own OSMdata instance in between to describe real

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonie picarde à vélo / ODBL compatible ?

2015-05-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-26 23:13, Matthieu Gaillet wrote : I'm currently busy mapping a huge cycling network in Wallonie Picarde http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4128428. ... — Ma question est la suivante : J’ai immédiatement demandé et obtenu l’autorisation d’intégrer les données du réseau sous

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread phil
On Fri May 29 10:42:27 2015 GMT+0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Exactly. Us Western Europeans would find Romanised versions of names useful when travelling out of Western Europe (to give a real example: I'm visiting Greece this summer, and while I'm just about at the stage where I think I can

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread 715371
Hi Peter, Am 29.05.2015 um 11:52 schrieb Peter Barth: Vor allem beim Mappen von Luftbildern hab ich ja nur einen Zeitpunkt bei dem vielleicht grad Hochwasser ist oder eine Trockenzeit. Wenn du unter anderem Tide-abhängige Wasserstände meinst, dann könnte man evtl. natural=coastline in erwägung

[OSM-talk-fr] Cépages ?

2015-05-29 Thread Laurent Chiche
Bonjour, Quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible d'indiquer les cépages des vignes et quels attributs utiliser ? J'ai cherché, mais rien trouvé à ce sujet dans le wiki. Merci Amicalement Laurent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: TL;DR; wikidata is a gorgeous project, combining their knowledge with ours is very promising. Still, in my opinion, for the current state of where they are (and where the tools to combine both are), I would _not remove tags_ from

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread phil
The Ukrainian names were added after the mapper engaged the UK community. Phil (trigpoint) On Fri May 29 11:27:41 2015 GMT+0100, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 29/05/2015 07:07, Andrew Hain wrote: Thank you Dave. As a British mapper I

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SeFaireConnaitre :(

2015-05-29 Thread Shohreh
Pierre-Yves Berrard wrote Recrudescence de création de points mal placés de manière automatique par l'utilisateur SeFaireConnaitre. http://www.sefaireconnaitre.com/mentions.htm http://www.verif.com/societe/UBIFLOW-429751654/ -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
2015-05-29 10:53 GMT+02:00 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: 2015-05-29 10:47 GMT+02:00 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: 2015-05-29 10:43 GMT+02:00 Michele Mondelli mithenks...@gmail.com: Si, vedo Mancuno giovedì mattina! occhio che si chiama MancuSo :) Immagino non ci siano

Re: [Talk-tr] openstreetmap.org.tr

2015-05-29 Thread Orkut Murat YILMAZ
Selamlar, Alan adını almıştık, ancak harekete geçemedik. Bu yaz döneminde harekete geçmeyi hep birlikte planlayabiliriz. Esenlikle:) On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:35 AM, yusuf ülkü yusufulk...@hotmail.com wrote: Açılmışmıydı ki org.tr To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Date: Thu, 28 May 2015

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jo
2015-05-29 11:41 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: On 29 May 2015 at 09:57, Arch Arch 7h3.a...@gmail.com wrote: If the foreign name differs from the transliteration I think no one would oppose to add the name into the OSM database. Then you haven't been paying attention to

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
2015-05-29 11:38 GMT+02:00 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: 2015-05-29 11:10 GMT+02:00 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: ho scritto reput[iam]o e non reputiamo proprio per dire che reputo ma so che non sono il solo a pensarla così. ma allora queste persone potrebbero organizzare

Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-05-29 Thread Christian Aigner
Hallo Robin! Gratuliere! Du hast die Anmeldung für die Mailing-liste geschafft. :-) Von mir mal ein herzliches Willkommen! LG, Christian ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:14 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: And as it happens, Абергавенни comes from Abergavenny rather than Y Fenni, showing that some discernment was applied. Not sure I understand that statement, transliterating Y

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-05-29 14:05, SomeoneElse wrote: On 29/05/2015 12:51, Maarten Deen wrote: It depends on what you want. When someone asks me to navigate to Natanzon, Haifa how can I enter it when the only name in the map is נתנזון, חיפה? I don't see why the transliterated name is not important.

Re: [Talk-in] Taginfo for India OSM

2015-05-29 Thread Yogesh योगि
Hi Naveen, To get the length of roads in OSM, tools like road_length https://github.com/yogiks/osmium-contrib/tree/master/road_length and osm-length http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/filter/osm-length/ can be helpful(Anyone else know other programs?). Other way of doing

Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-05-29 Thread Christian Aigner
Du mußt bei Haltestelle zwei Dinge unterscheiden: 1) den logischen Teil Die public_transport=stop_position ist der logische Teil einer Haltestelle. Sie trägt z.B. den Namen. Es kann für jede Fahrtrichtung eine eigene stop_position geben, falls diese etwas weiter (sagen wir mal mehr als 10 Meter)

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 14:14, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: I'm not a fan of (un)signed=* (the most common in tagginfo) because their meaning is not obvious enough. name:signed=en;cy would be a first and open the multiple-value can of worms. But name:signed=yes/no has 161 uses in taginfo, and

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
2015-05-29 12:01 GMT+02:00 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: dipende cosa intendi per comunità. Sicuramente, per come è fatta la piattaforma di OSM, gli strumenti di abilitazione di una comunità sono poveri, ma di certo non tutti gli utenti registrati a osm sono in una ML e non è detto

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: I've used name:signed=no (though this is by no means an accepted tag, and if anyone can come up with a more accepted version that does the same job I'm all ears). Maybe something like name:signed=en;cy might solve the name

Re: [Talk-at] disput um wohnprojekt

2015-05-29 Thread Norbert Wenzel
On 05/29/2015 11:00 AM, Py Mayly wrote: Irgendwo war noch eine Diskussion zum Objekt bei den Notes, aber ich finde die grad nicht mehr. Noch in der ursprünglichen Note verlinkt war folgendes Changeset wo User Species mit emergency99 diskutiert hat, dass es reverted gehört. Das ist angeblich

Re: [Talk-at] disput um wohnprojekt

2015-05-29 Thread Robin Däneke
Ja, ich habe es wieder reverted. Und so eingetragen wie in der Fehlernote jetzt gewünscht. Dennoch wäre die Vorlage einer Grundbenützungsberechtigung oder ähnliches sinnvoll... Die Adresse selbst (gegenüber 66) wurde ja schon in den WienGIS Plan aufgenommen, und ist offenbar offiziell.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cépages ?

2015-05-29 Thread dHuy Pierre
Le Tag crop semble correspondre à ton besoin même si actuellement aucun usage n'en ai fait pour cartographier les cépages.L'usage d'un crop:type me paraîtrait bien aussi mais sans aucun fondement.Si tu trouves une solution meilleure tiens nous au courant :) Le Vendredi 29 mai 2015

[OSM-talk-ie] Water depth in lake

2015-05-29 Thread John Whitmore
Hello talk-ie@openstreetmap.org I'm working on a project for work which involves faffing about on a lake here in Ireland in a boat. What I'm doing is working on pulling NMEA Data off the boat's CAN Bus into a computer. The boat has a few sesnors on it, depth, GPS and will have water Temp, if not

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Water depth in lake

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel Cussen
http://www.openseamap.org/ is a marine map, which may have depth, or could use depth data. There may be some legal ramifications in some countries where the government/department has a monopoly on producing marine charts (which are maps with depth and other data) as free/open maps may have

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Water depth in lake

2015-05-29 Thread Rory McCann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, OSM can store many things, but water depths are probably not being shown on the main OSM page, but that doesn't mean they are not being stored. Do you know about OpenSeaMap? It uses OSM but for more nautical/maritime uses. It looks like they

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonie picarde à vélo / ODBL compatible ?

2015-05-29 Thread Marc Gemis
2015-05-29 11:53 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: BTW, using registered letters makes me laugh. One may claim that the envelope was empty. totally of topic, but the right way to do this is to only send the letter (folded and address on the same paper as the text) and not put

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Komяpa
You don't even need on the ground evidence. You just need someone with knowledge of Cyrillic and Roman alphabets to be able to transliterate Abergavenny into the Cyrillic, presumably. Transliteration is something that can be done at application level, and a traveller would have learned the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cépages ?

2015-05-29 Thread Francescu GAROBY
crop=grape http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:crop%3Dgrape existe, mais c'est pour du raisin, en général. Donc pas pour spécifier le cépage. Par contre, bien que les cépages ne rentrent pas dans les classifications biologiques http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9page#Classification_botanique,

Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
boh, all'estero mi sembra ci sia più movimento. ti faccio alcuni esempi: - non esistono appuntamenti locali continui, ci abbiamo provato in diversi posti ma alla fine è sempre finito tutto - ci sono pochissimi eventi di mappatura, abbiamo un numero abbastanza alto di mappatori ma nessun è

[OSM-talk-ie] Overpass giving errors

2015-05-29 Thread Dave Corley
Trying to run searches with the wizard (amenity=hospital etc) and getting the following error *Error*: runtime error: open64: 111 Connection refused /home/roles/overpass/db//osm3s_v0.7.52_osm_base Dispatcher_Client::3 Dave ___ Talk-ie mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 29.05.2015 18:43, Andrew Guertin napisał(a): I can imagine a world where no information about businesses is stored in OSM. OSM has a geometry and a wikidata link. Wikidata says what kind of business it is, what its name is, what its contact info it, what its opening hours are, etc. +1

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jo
I don't think Wikidata will deem all businesses in the world noteworthy enough for inclusion. In our own instance of OSMdata we can include whatever we like, of course. businesses addresses as first class citizens streets PT stops, routes and we may even be able to figure out a way to include

Re: [Talk-cz] zmizelá Dřevnice

2015-05-29 Thread Karel Volný
zdar, Další možnost, že tvoří mapy pro jeden letecký simulátor, který využívá OSM data (řešilo se to tu kdysi dávno, tak rok, dva zpátky. waterway=river se jim ve hře nevykreslovalo tak dotyční kreslili nesmyslné kraje řek bez návaznosti na realitu). řešilo a nevyřešilo, stydím se a zvyšuju

Re: [Talk-it] open data comune di Verona

2015-05-29 Thread Leonardo
Il validatore di JOSM segnala 4 errori legati al tag addr:postcode vuoto. Ciao! Leonardo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 29.05.2015 10:32, schrieb Christoph Hormann: On Friday 29 May 2015, Stephan Wolff wrote: Das würde ein weltweites Tagging-Schema zerstören... Da die Übergänge zwischen den Wasserflächen von Flüssen, Kanälen und Seen (im doppelten Wortsinn) fließend sind, finde ich das neue Schema logisch

Re: [Talk-at] disput um wohnprojekt

2015-05-29 Thread Robin Däneke
Normal mappe ich keine Buildings ;). Aber ein Wagenpark, der voriges Jahr noch widerrechtlich aufgestellt war, ist jetzt auch nicht so ein alltägliches Problem und vor allem kein Gebäude... Aber ich werde es jetzt in ruhe lassen. Hab grad größere Probleme mit dem richtigen vs gutem mappen ÖPNV

Re: [Talk-at] disput um wohnprojekt

2015-05-29 Thread Stefan Kopetzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-05-29 15:38, Robin Däneke wrote: Dennoch wäre die Vorlage einer Grundbenützungsberechtigung oder ähnliches sinnvoll... Ned bös sein, aber... Fragst du sonst, bevor du building=yes o.ä. mappst, jedes Mal nach einer aufrechten Bau- und

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Andrew Guertin
On 05/27/2015 05:13 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: We are a database of geodata [...] Would it not be better to record the wikidata link for London, and then (perhaps in co-operation with people at Wikidata) provide means for people doing map rendering to join OSM data with a separately-loaded

Re: [Talk-it] open data comune di Verona

2015-05-29 Thread Andrea Musuruane
2015-05-22 9:43 GMT+02:00 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com: 2015-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00 dvdzero dvdz...@gmail.com: Simone F. wrote Se ti può essere utile, ho confrontato le geometrie delle strade con quelle presenti in OSM, come avevo fatto con Rimini un anno fa:

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Richard
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:32:23AM +0200, Christoph Hormann wrote: und der Umstieg von waterway=riverbank auf natural=water + water=river wird dies verstärken, denn das water=river wird dann oft - weil scheinbar unnötig - weggelassen. Insgesamt eine schlechte Entwicklung. Dass

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Andrew Guertin
On 05/29/2015 08:18 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:14 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: And as it happens, Абергавенни comes from Abergavenny rather than Y Fenni, showing that some discernment was applied. Not sure I understand that statement, transliterating Y Fenni is

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 29.05.2015 10:02, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Da die Übergänge zwischen den Wasserflächen von Flüssen, Kanälen und Seen (im doppelten Wortsinn) fließend sind, finde ich das neue Schema logisch und praktikabel. verstehe ich nicht. Es ist doch egal ob man water=river oder waterway=riverbank

[OSM-talk] State of the Map LatAm 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Dear All, Today we officially announced the first State of the Map LatAm. We will host this conference between September 4th and 6th, in Santiago de Chile. As many people asked in Buenos Aires, the State of the Map LatAm will take place in the days just before the AbreLatam (7th-8th) and the

Re: [OSM-talk] What's your OSM story?

2015-05-29 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Maybe you can have a look at escada's diary, he posts all of our local 'mapper-of-the-month' interviews there in english: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/escada/diary/ Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ talk mailing list

[Talk-br] State of the Map LatAm 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Estimados, Hoy hemos anunciado la realización del primer State of the Map LatAm. El evento tendra lugar entre el 4 y el 6 de Septiembre, en Santiago de Chile. Como muchas personas solicitaron durante el State of the Map de Buenos Aires en Noviembre pasado, el evento se realizara el viernes,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonie picarde à vélo / ODBL compatible ?

2015-05-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-29 15:50, Marc Gemis wrote : 2015-05-29 11:53 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: BTW, using registered letters makes me laugh. One may claim that the envelope was empty. totally of topic, Not off topic. It was part of a

Re: [Talk-cz] Nove preklady wiki

2015-05-29 Thread Marián Kyral
Dne 29.5.2015 v 23:21 Martin Švec - OSM napsal(a): Ahoj, koukám do Osmose a co nevidím... Najednou se mu nelíbí moje noexit=no tagy. Po chvíli jsem našel, že v [1] byla hodnota noexit=no opravdu už dávno prohlášena za zastaralou, hmmm. Z diskuse na wiki není ten závěr tak jednoznačný,

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Rob Nickerson
Andy wrote: For example, when processing OSM data for my own use I'll try and drop unsigned names and refs from roads (there's no point in saying turn left on Foo Street if Foo Street does not appear on the sign). I hope you've not deleted any of the data I added. Just because it doesn't have

Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-05-29 Thread Robin Däneke
Der Plattform Tag ist nicht so zwingend. Es geht auch ohne. Aber das mit der stop position mitten auf der Kreuzung ist mir auch aufgefallen (habe ich bei 65A, 9A, 13 A doch schon entschärft (denke ich)... Aber eine Stop position sollte dann halt wirklich da sein wo der Bus hält, und nicht als

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] ***SPAM*** Re: Autocariste, dépôt de bus, de train

2015-05-29 Thread Christian Rogel
Le 28 mai 2015 à 22:28, Éric Gillet gill3t.3ric+...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 28 mai 2015 11:49, Romain MEHUT romain.me...@gmail.com a écrit : A mon sens il parlait des noms donnés pour décrire quelque chose sans rapport avec un quelconque nom identifiable sur le terrain. Si cimetière

Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-05-29 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 29.05.2015 23:28, Stefan Tauner wrote: Wer den physischen Teil auf die Plattform reduziert, soll sich mal bewusst machen, dass es außerorts oft gar keine Plattform gibt. Ach, da warten die Leuten also nirgendwo sondern beamen sich direkt in die Fahrzeuge? Sie warten dort nicht auf einer

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank

2015-05-29 Thread Andreas Goss
natural=water + water=* erlaubt generell auch das undifferenzierte Tagging von Wasserflächen, was auch in über 90 Prozent der Fälle so gemacht wird - siehe http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/natural=water#combinations Wenn der top tag schon source=* ist, dann kann man eigentlich fast schon

Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-29 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:13:31AM +0200, Robert Kaiser wrote: Making your movements available publicly is a privacy invasion, no matter if it's legal or not. A lot of privacy invasions are legal (like the NSA recording all European Internet traffic when it enters the USA), but that doesn't

Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien

2015-05-29 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Fri, 29 May 2015 23:53:01 +0200 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote: On 29.05.2015 23:28, Stefan Tauner wrote: Wer den physischen Teil auf die Plattform reduziert, soll sich mal bewusst machen, dass es außerorts oft gar keine Plattform gibt. Ach, da warten die Leuten also

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