Re: iOS browsers was Re: IOS 7, probably the most buggy I've ever seen yet!
Hi! I’ve already bugged this the first time I browsed with iOS using Safari when iOS 7 was released. I’m sure they’ll get around to it, but I wish it’d be sooner rather than later, since it really is an ugly experience. I’m using another browser for the time being, and it works, but it’s certainly a workaround. The only reason I actually mention it is because I’m curious if anyone’s experienced something similar to this. If someone who browses frequently with Safari has not experienced this behaviour, the performance problems may be difficult to reproduce, and would certainly be part of the reason it has not been fixed yet. Regards, Nicolai On 08 May 2014, at 21:32, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all Have you considered either Chrome or Instabrowser as your second browser for iOS? Granted you can't make them default browsers but they may work better with VoiceOver. I of course realize this is only a workaround and doesn't solve the current problems and so writing to accessibil...@apple.com is encouraged. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth! On 08/05/2014 15:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! I’m finding web browsing with Safari to be an absolutely horrible experience on my iPhone 5. This has been the case through all versions of iOS 7 for me. VoiceOver will bounce all over the place, or is very sluggish at telling me what’s on the webpage when I navigate, especially when hitting landmarks. Quite often, too, VoiceOver will randomly bounce me around to different parts of the page when I’m just flicking through if I don’t know the design.. I can’t reproduce the bugs you mention here. It’s mostly performance that I have trouble with on my end. Regards, Nicolai --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: IOS 7, probably the most buggy I've ever seen yet!
Hi! I’m finding web browsing with Safari to be an absolutely horrible experience on my iPhone 5. This has been the case through all versions of iOS 7 for me. VoiceOver will bounce all over the place, or is very sluggish at telling me what’s on the webpage when I navigate, especially when hitting landmarks. Quite often, too, VoiceOver will randomly bounce me around to different parts of the page when I’m just flicking through if I don’t know the design.. I can’t reproduce the bugs you mention here. It’s mostly performance that I have trouble with on my end. Regards, Nicolai On 08 May 2014, at 14:47, barbara jones jone...@comcast.net wrote: Chris I have an iPod Touch and am finding my device mutes itself. I can't get it back on until I plug it into my computer. To my knowledge, iPod Touch does not have a mute switch. I get messages that something timed out when I have been reading a book and done nothing else. Some strange things happening I've not seen after the latest update. I know there are others but writing on the fly and can't think of others at the moment. Barbara On May 7, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK, I've been using I O S since I O S 3.X if that tells you anything. So, needless to say, I've really seen Voiceover evolve, and I O S evolve as well in general. I've always loved I O S. Never have I shamed it like some techy snobs do who feel like it's too locked down, get Android, Ajpple wants to cheat people, yoddie yodda. I'm sorry. I don't think one mobile platform's better than the other. They both have their plusses. However... This being said, I must say, this last I O S 7 update, at least on my IPhone 5S has almost caused me to reconsider that above statement. I'm not saying that these bugs are happening for everyone, and before anyone asks, yes, I have indeed restored to factory default, and not even rolled back from a backup, and it did no good. Siri Siri has become more of a joke lately than it has a help. Even in a quiet environment, half of the time, Siri not only doesn't hear me correctly, but a lot of the time, she doesn't even hear me at all. A lot of times, even when the phone is not even close to my ear, and the proximity sensor isn't even remotely close to being covered up, it still routes Siri through my earpiece rather than through my loud speaker. Ring VS Vibrate This hasn't cropped up until recently, and it's extremely rare, but it does happen, thus, I do have to document it. Even when my mute switch is disabled, meaning, my phone is not on silent mode, the phone still only vibrates. I don't even have vibrate enabled under settingssound unless it's in silent mode. Alarm Clock Thank God for 3rd party apps, as I cannot seem to get my alarm clock working anymore. I think it may have worked once and once only since the latest 7.1 build update. Touch ID I'm finding that half of the time, scanning my finger print produces the msg to try again even though my finger is dead smack centered on the home key. Connectivity Almost constantly! I lose internet connection. My wifi itself never disconnects, however the dhcp seems to quit being auto detected. No, it's not a router issue, as none of my other non I O S devices have this problem. Yes, I tried resetting network settings, and it did no good. Yes, I reset the router. No good. Yes, I changed the wifi channel. NO good. Yes I changed the wifi protocol. NO good. Yes I changed the SSID. NO good. Yes, I updated my router to the most recent firmware. NO good. Even on LTE/4G, I find my internet going away almost constantly. Even a reset by pressing and holding lock and home together does no good. Resetting the springboard with a quintupple rapid press of the lock key doesn't work either 3 fourths of the time. I literally have to shut the phone off, wait about a minute, then turn it back on, and usually! key word, usually! it regains internet access at that point. I find that bluetooth is disconnecting more frequently, and the d is tance range isn't near as good. I get no more than 10 feet away, and it usually poopoos out. Audio quality with Voiceover Ever since the 5C and 5S have come out, I've found that turning up the volume really high causes distortion in both models. Well, as of the latest 7.1 update, I'm finding that it's gotten ever so slightly worse. It's very suttle, but I can definitely tell from 7.0 to 7.1 it's gone down hill. Plus it sounds way more compressed even on the high quality premium voices. Bad pronunciation Now, we have this issue with Symantha saying Convella instead of convert. What the bloody heck! Apple said they'd fix it, yet, I've not seen a fix. On the plus side I will! give Apple credit on one thing. The bluetooth bug we had in the last build indeed has
Re: a friend of mine wants to get the old Siri back
Hi! Yeah, I’m still trying to understand this. I just installed the high quality UK voice and it sounds a world different from my compact voice here. Any chance you can provide samples? I hear multiple people saying it sounds either distorted or different in some other strange way. Regards, Nicolai On 19 Sep 2013, at 15:51, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: difference isn't worth a damn. Loads of us are complaining about it. On 19 Sep 2013, at 14:50, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Perhaps he did, that the compact voice, you've got to enable the high-quality, it sounds better. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Worth noting that the new voice only seems to be a US one for now. It's still Daniel for UK english. Incidentaly, Daniel sounds like he's got his head buried in a pillow on IOS7! Dónal On 19 Sep 2013, at 14:31, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: OH same here. I love the voice and the personality seems more human if that makes sense. Tc. On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:52 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: No, and I honestly think the New one sounds better anyway. Sent from my iPhone On 19 Sep 2013, at 04:13, Paula Hobley technological_gen...@paulahobley.com wrote: Hi Brenda No, not to my knowledge. I think once you have updated the IOS, it is here to stay. Cheers Paula -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of meadowlar...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 3:41 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: a friend of mine wants to get the old Siri back Hello all, My friend and I updated to the newest operating system on our iPhone 5. My friend wants old Siri back. Is there a way to get her back? Thanks in advance, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ ---
Re: CereProc Voices for Mac
Hi Esther, Well, I suppose we could buy them, since they don't offer demos unless you request them, and even then it's not always the case they let you download one. That having been said, since the prices seem to be the same for both Windows and OS X now which is a lot more reasonable, it wouldn't break the bank. That aside, I doubt it'll be as good as Infovox ivox, unfortunately. I tried building a speech synth upon Apple's instructions, and that didn't get as good results as the work with Infovox. I don't know how Assistiveware managed to make it work as well as it does, but at any rate, that'd certainly be useful information for other developers such as Ivona, who's also very interested in making it work well with VoiceOver. Regards, Nicolai On May 4, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi, I answered a post about other voices for the Mac a few weeks ago with this information. I also had one of the Cereproc voices from the same period that Nic describes, and I had to delete it because it crashed VoiceOver on my Mac. I quite liked the voice, which was one of their Scottish voices, and It may have been possible to use it for TTS only, but I noticed that my Mac froze up on one occasion (not just the VoiceOver crashes), so I had to uninstall it. On the other hand, I noted that Cereproc built a custom voice for the late film critic, Roger Ebert, who had to use his Mac and VoiceOver as a substitute voice when he lost the ability to speak in one of the operations for cancer of the larynx. Maybe they've improved? He certainly couldn't have used their voice for him if it froze up his Mac as much as it did for us. I'd like to know if the Cereproc voices are a reasonable option now, because I did like the sound of the voice. If I were being mischievous though, I'd ask whether Siri has difficulty understanding the voice Josh, if you want to hear what their voices for Obama and Bush are like, you can get either the free iSpeech Obama or iSpeech Bush iOS apps. Cheers, Esther On May 3, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I tried this with VoiceOver, and they were absolutely terrible to work with. I'd maybe hear one phrase spoken, then the voice would crash. Even then, the voice was truly unresponsive, even if I used the voice without VoiceOver. I just had another look, and it seems that the male voices disappeared for British English. It has been a while since I tried these, but at the time they didn't seem very interested in hearing my crash logs, but that might have changed. Regards, Nicolai On May 4, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Have any of you tried the CereProc voices for OS X? These voices are developed by a company based in Scotland, here in the UK. They do several voices and also have a number of companies who have incorporated the voices into their own solutions. They are so good that I bought Gordon a couple of them. They are almost as good as the Acapella voices and, at just over £21 each, they are a snip at the price. You can find the voices here: http://www.cereproc.com/ I would be interested to hear any informed opinion. He --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should
Re: CereProc Voices for Mac
Hi! I tried this with VoiceOver, and they were absolutely terrible to work with. I'd maybe hear one phrase spoken, then the voice would crash. Even then, the voice was truly unresponsive, even if I used the voice without VoiceOver. I just had another look, and it seems that the male voices disappeared for British English. It has been a while since I tried these, but at the time they didn't seem very interested in hearing my crash logs, but that might have changed. Regards, Nicolai On May 4, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody Have any of you tried the CereProc voices for OS X? These voices are developed by a company based in Scotland, here in the UK. They do several voices and also have a number of companies who have incorporated the voices into their own solutions. They are so good that I bought Gordon a couple of them. They are almost as good as the Acapella voices and, at just over £21 each, they are a snip at the price. You can find the voices here: http://www.cereproc.com/ I would be interested to hear any informed opinion. He --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: How to use crutial's memory scanning tool?
Hi Sarah, When you say memory scanning tool, I'd assume the application you download off of Crucial's website. That tool simply scans the computer quickly, then brings up a page in Safari with your current specs and compatible upgrades, but also allows you to choose other options like a different drive capacity, but upgrades which will primarily be compatible with your Mac. If you're not using your Mac while wanting to do the scan, or using another Mac but want to see upgrades for a different computer, you can use the Crucial Memory Advisor™ tool. It allows you to select manufacturer, computer and model from pop up buttons. TO apply your choices and show results, just move the mouse pointer to the RAM configurator image with VO-Command-F5, then press VO-Shift-Space. A new page loads, and recommended options appear, and you can also download the Sysem Scanner from here.. I recommend the system scanner if applicable. It's a lot simpler to use, and shows you hard drive options as well as memory options. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:18 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: lol. I'm tryign to find that out. I got an image when I finished the steps so I don't know. I'm inquiring help from a lot of people so we'll see. On Apr 25, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: is it very accessible. On 4/25/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hey to all. I'm trying to use crutial's memory scanning tool to see what ram is compatible with my system. I choose my appropriate company and the computer but I don't see a start scan thing any ware. Any advice? I use safari and I tabbed every ware and vo left and right arrowed every ware but no go. I know I'm missing something but what? lol! I might do the browser agent thing and see if that works as well. take care all. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Join me at: www.out-of-sight.net A free voice chat site for the blind Quote, Catch the vision! Its Out of Sight! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: MarsEdit
Hi! Yeah, I love MarsEdit. I've been using it for years to blog, and it even has some built-in HTML functionality already if you don't know how to code it. There's other choices like Mac Journal which some seem to prefer, but I've only tried it briefly. The developer of MarsEdit is great at responding to requests, and is very understanding when you're having problems. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Oh it rocks. I don't know much html but I do use it for the stuff I do know like ordered and unordered lists, and nested lists or what ever it's called. It's become more and more powerful since I started using it in late 2011 or what not. Take care. On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: I had no idea that MarsEdit was as powerful as it is until now. It seems I have been grossly neglecting this software, and will probably now use it as my primary HTML editor, alongside its successor to this role, Taco HTML Edit. Kind regards --- Gordon Smith --- gor...@mac-access.net Telephone: United Kingdom: Free Phone: 0800 8620538 Mobile: +44 7907 823971 Europe and other non-specified: +44 1642 688095 United States Of America And Canada: +1 646 9151493 / +1 209 436 9443 Vic. Australia: +61 38 8205930 Vic. Australia +61 39 0284505 Fax: +44 1642 365123 Follow Us On Twitter: http://twitter.com/maciosaccess Skype: skype:mac-access-dot-net?call -- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Very high intermediate towards advanced question about sharing
Hi! Some people won't have the web sharing box in System Preferences in Mountain Lion. So, you have to enable Apache in Terminal like so sudo apachectl start You can replace start with stop and restart as you see fit, but keep in mind that you have to make OS X launch the daemon when you boot the system. This won't be done automatically. sudo defaults write /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.apache.httpd Disabled -bool false To disable this, you of course just write true instead of false in Terminal. From what I can tell, Apache actually already uses both system and user-specific web sharing, though I can't make the system-wide configuration work when I put files in the appropriate folders. This may just be because it might have one enabled this being the user, but it does show the site added in the /library/webserver/documents location which is for the system-wide web share, so I can't imagine that being correct. Either way, configuration file is here: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf IF you don't see it, try using something like nano /etc/apache2/httpd.conf to open the file and edit it that way. I can't answer your questions completely, I think, since I can't make it properly work for me due to my configuration in my current area. Regards, Nicolai On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:08 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: Yes, but I don't think the personal website is supported in ML any longer. Did you upgrade from Lion or Snow Leopard? It might still be in sharing prefs because of that. With my Mini, which I did a complete clean install on, there is no Web sharing service listed in my sharing prefs. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: John, All I know is under system prefs, sharing, there is an option to enable web sharing. that's all I can tell ya. Chris Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions http://www.clgproductions.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com Phone: 803-760-7136 Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185 Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays. - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Very high intermediate towards advanced question about sharing I don't think web sharing is supported in Mountain Lion any longer. I could be wrong, but I believe that is what I read. Thus, you won't find that folder. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote: OK guys. So here's the situation. I am running OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.2. I have gone under system preferences, then to sharing. I turned on web sharing, which started the web Apache http daemon service built into the OS by default out of the box. The problem is, even after enabling the root user account which for liability reasons I am not on list going to reveal how to do, I still cannot see under /etc/apache any type of httpd.conf file that I can edit in Text Edit like I would do on Unix/Linux. I know that one for 20 bucks in the app store can get the server extention add-ons, but why do that only for a GUI front end interface? Sure it makes things like setting up dns routing, port mascing, IP cloning etc. more easy, but... Basically, I only need to really make two changes. By default, the web daemon is set to be user specific. This means if I want to access a file over the web http service, I must go to: http://IPAddress/~UserName IE: http://192.168.1.11/~chris Then, basically I can access from there anything inside /MacintoshHD/Users/chris/Sites, such as index.html So my question is, I want to change the directive within the conf file so that instead of it being user specific, it is system-wide. This way instead of going to an address formatted like above, I could instead jsut go to: http://IPAddress and that's it. no /~UserName at the end. The only problem is, in doing this, if I make the service system wide, then I'd also suspect I'd have to somehow change the HTDocs location so that there would be one global system wide directory where all web files would go. Then I'd probably have to chmod the thing and set not just the owner and the group, but also everyone
Re: Problem with Log in Window, can you try and help?
Hi, I've covered this is another topic. Basically, what happens is that the screensaver appears. When that happens, tapping a key doesn't automatically bring focus to the window. So, you can hit VO-F1-F1 to bring up the Application CHooser. Go to the Login window menu, then hit enter on it and select the only window available there. You have to use the application chooser because it's essentially a different application that manages the Login window. Regards, Nicolai On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Can you please try and help with the following. Last night I let both my mac and iPhone charge. So I logged out of my user account and all was fine and I left it for a few hours. But when I came back to it, VoiceOver said, displaying 1 system dialogue, and I therefore could not do anything with the log in Window, because all VoiceOver said was, Authentication has no windows! Lol! So guess what? I had to literally hard reset the mac! Lol! This has happened a few times actually when I left my mac at the log in window for some time, but decided to write in only now as it happened again last night. So if I do this, will I damage my mac over time? Gary Price here said that if you put the mac to sleep while charging an iOS device, it still charges, providing you are still logged in. If this is the case, should I do this instead? This is on a Macbook Pro 13 inch late 2011 model running Mountain Lion. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please respond as soon as possible. Thanks! Take care. -- Sent from my Windows laptop. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: WXWidgets and voiceover.
Hi, From what I know, it's not that easy to make it accessible, but it's possible. I don't know as to how to do this, though, but from what I've been told by a developer using it, it's not the easiest thing to do. Sorry that I can't be of a lot of help here. Regards, Nicolai On Sep 6, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, This one is for any devs on the list. Does anyone know if applications developed using WXWidgets are accessible on mac? I'm working with a developer at the minute who needs to know. His application is cross-platform so he's reluctant to abandon his entire code base. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: WXWidgets and voiceover.
Hi Dónal Well, I use TeamTalk as an example here, since that's what Bjørn uses also. He told me it was a pretty tough job getting it to work properly, and even for the proper component to be recognised. Regards, Nicolai On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Not what I wanted to hear Nick *smile* I used Widgets on *cough* another OS back in the day and it was pretty accessible actually hence the question. As ever, thanks. On 6 Sep 2012, at 18:54, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, From what I know, it's not that easy to make it accessible, but it's possible. I don't know as to how to do this, though, but from what I've been told by a developer using it, it's not the easiest thing to do. Sorry that I can't be of a lot of help here. Regards, Nicolai On Sep 6, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Hi, This one is for any devs on the list. Does anyone know if applications developed using WXWidgets are accessible on mac? I'm working with a developer at the minute who needs to know. His application is cross-platform so he's reluctant to abandon his entire code base. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Enable Accessibility Options Anywhere In Mountain Lion [OS X Tips] | Cult of Mac
Hi, What's actually really nice about this is that it uses your system speech to read the dialogs, too. If you tab through the options, it reads the status of the checkbox you're on, and what the option does. This is if Voiceover is off. The article didn't seem to mention that. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Now,this is a cool tip. It does not have everything but wow. I did not know this was there. and the reader is available so use it. *grins* http://www.cultofmac.com/187111/enable-accessibility-options-anywhere-in-mountain-lion-os-x-tips/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Battery Time Remaining Brings More Battery Info to Mountain Lion's Menu Bar
Hi Lynne, I didn't bother to use a clean install of Mountain lion on my MacBook Air, since it was delivered only a few days before Mountain lion's release. So, I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic Just out of interest, is your installation a clean install or an upgrade from Lion or Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion? On 26 Aug, 2012, at 20:45 PM, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: • Yeah, I'm not sure why they say it's not there. It shows on my MacBook Air too, whether it's charging or discharging and how much time until battery is full as well as how much battery remaining, respectively. It does have one feature I do want though, and that's custom notifications. I've been meaning to look into this myself, but I'm sure those who've had projects in the works know how busy it can get when you start studying. Some projects kind of are put on hold. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Battery Time Remaining Brings More Battery Info to Mountain Lion's Menu Bar
Hi, Yeah, I'm not sure why they say it's not there. It shows on my MacBook Air too, whether it's charging or discharging and how much time until battery is full as well as how much battery remaining, respectively. It does have one feature I do want though, and that's custom notifications. I've been meaning to look into this myself, but I'm sure those who've had projects in the works know how busy it can get when you start studying. Some projects kind of are put on hold. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 26, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: According to the article ml no longer has the batter info in the menu bar. Not true as I saw it there this morning and this after a clean install about 3 weeks ago. but here is the link. I'mtrying this anyways. lol. it's free so why not. http://lifehacker.com/5937698/battery-time-remaining-brings-more-battery-info-to-mountain-lions-menu-bar Battery Time Remaining Brings More Battery Info to Mountain Lion’s Menu Bar OS X: With Mountain Lion, Apple took away the ability to see your remaining battery time in the menu bar. Free app Battery Time Remaining brings it back, along with a few other goodies to keep your laptop alive. Battery Time Remaining is a simple app that sits in your menu bar. It looks exactly like the default battery icon, but adds a battery life indicator next to it. Clicking on the icon brings you all the traditional options of the old battery icon, plus a few extra features under Advanced Mode—particularly the ability to customize battery notifications, so you know when it's reached a certain level. It's handy for those of us that are always whittling our battery down to its last few minutes. Battery Time Remaining is a free download for OS X. Battery Time Remaining --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: (what Fleksy means for us) was Re: Fleksy
Hi Dónal Just to throw in my two cents also. Fleksy is a nice application because it lets you type incredibly fast, and this even applies to when VoiceOver is off for sighted users. Sighted users don't have to focus as much on what they're typing if they already know how to touch-type, and it makes their typing speed infinitely better. Also, because APIs exist which allow certain areas of the screen to accept regular gestures, Fleksy being a case where this is used, this could technically be incorporated into iOS as a global keyboard method. However, incorporating this globally isn't as easy as it would be with a simple keyboard that does not exist in iOS, such as the Emoji keyboard in iOS 4 because Developers need to have certain APIs sandboxed or create an SDK, which Fleksy has done. In this case, Apple would need to make it happen if you wanted something like this to be globally available. Installing an application which lets you select its input method as a keyboard in any text field is one thing, but this is a completely different approach. As for OS X, lots of bugs still exist. However, speaking from the perspective of someone who submits them and actively receives feedback on them when something changes, it sometimes takes months for Apple to review the bugs you send in. When they do review them and get back to you in detail, they often tell you to reproduce it again in hope of the issue being fixed, or say that they cannot reproduce it. It gets a lot more complicated when they can't reproduce it, because a lot of bugs are sometimes machine-specific, or depend on your configuration. If they depend on your configuration, it also depends on how VoiceOVer is configured, how you installed OS X as well as how you modified the application exhibiting the behaviour. Logs don't always tell you everything. Secondly, fixing one bug sometimes breaks something else, which is very common. I will say that some of these bugs have been around for a very long time, and some features purely don't exist when they should be available. Obviously, this just means Apple's engineers need to focus a bit more on the smaller bugs which eventually add up and become very annoying. Every time I've talked to their engineers, the critical bugs seem to be the most important ones. This is understandable, but the issue seems to be that when a lot of these bugs have been ironed out, the smaller bugs are left to grow. Some of them are just difficult to deal with, such as the issue with page loading which is apparently a bug that is very hard to fix. That bug is just one example though, because some of those bugs are not so easy to fix if you understand the technical aspects. I mention that because some people find a bug and figure it'll be very easy to fix when it seems like a small glitch, but what a good part of users don't realise is that a lot of these issues are interconnected. Fix one thing, and you might break another. Again, the page loading is a good example here. In the past, I have also mentioned issues that I have had which have not plagued everyone else on the list who responded to my problem. This is another case in point. Just to clarify. I'm not defending Apple, because I think, too, that some of these bugs at least need to be put down and fixed even though Apple already knows about them. That having been said, your note about extensions worries me. I see two sides to this, however, and that is firstly that it can be an advantage, at least in the case of OS X. OS X is a lot more open than iOS because it doesn't limit you in the case of modifications if you know how, and this also includes VoiceOVer. iOS is different because everything relies on Sandboxing unless you jailbreak. My concern about extensions, though, is that people might become dependent on them. Plugging in to the screen reader makes me think of JAWS on the Windows side where everything is scripted and you can make changes to an application through scripts to make it easier to use. Depending on what you'd use extensions for, I wouldn't consider them a benefit personally. You can already use AppleScript to make some tasks easier, but they're not direct extensions or modifications to VoiceOVer. You can extend VoiceOVer's features if you know how to do it, but it's painstaking and requires a lot of effort to get to what you want. For instance, you can get tables to read properly in any application which uses them by plugging in to the right frameworks, but by making use of VoiceOVer-specific technology which Apple does not leak on the Developer website. I'm speaking as someone who's had intimate experience with VoiceOVer, and keep in mind I'm not at all slamming your post. I actually agree, but it's worth getting both sides. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 21, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Travis, I've played with the free app and personally have no
Re: So What Constitutes A New iMac?
Hi Dane, You won't get any compensation for this, even if you tried. The manufacturing isn't taken into account when reading the System Report. OS X bases the model year off of the last produced Model, which was I believe on May 3 2011. The system report doesn't say anything different just because you buy a new model, when the model number remains the same as currently produced models. Even if your iMac has been originally installed in 2012 as was not the case with yours, the Mid-2011 will always reflect the model number and never when it was installed or manufactured, since it shows the release year of the current model. So, this is a trivial detail and isn't even a concern. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 14, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com wrote: Hi! So what's the actual definition of a new iMac machine? As other list members will know I received what appears to be my new iMac machine yesterday and its working well so no complaints there. However I am curious due to the content of the system report available under About This Mac in the Apple menu. The System Report tells me that the model of iMac I have is a Mid 2011 model and simple calculation will tell us that this goes back further than a year. Okay, so I expect that time has to elapse between say manufacture, shipping, stock in the warehouse and so on but just how much time elapses before something is defined as not being new any more? Perhaps I'm being trivial? Well I don't honestly know but I do know that I was a little surprised when I saw the date on the system report. The hard disk shows that the operating system was originally installed on 7 July 2011. Again I stress that perhaps I'm bing trivial, after all! the machine has all the specs I read about on the Apple Web site before purchase, it came clean and packed well and is working right now but I am wondering whether it would be worth to perhaps get some cash back or at least some sort of credit or compensation given the age of the machine? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Fleksy
Hi, yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it should, especially because they told me that it only will when you reboot the phone. It doesn't though. So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail) christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out more, click on the following link. http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/ Happy typing! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Fleksy
Hi, Yes, I do know that. That's what I'm doing, but sometimes when I seem to need it most it still loads even when running for me. Of course, that may depend on the application state of Fleksy, because potentially inactive apps may sometimes quit. Practically everyone I know is sighted, or don't have iPhones, so even though Fleksy would be useful for sighted people too as I explained in a second message, no one here is really using it. This is partly because Fleksy currently has no international dictionaries, though I know they're working on it. So, even when I text internationally and Fleksy is useful, I still have to go into a separate message since it doesn't seem to integrate with iMessage. So, I like Fleksy because even without VoiceOver I can type faster than I can on the regular keyboard because I don't have to be quite as accurate, but switch to another application to send messages to people. This isn't a particular problem, just not always worth it for me unless I'm the one texting first. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Chris (gmail) christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Did you know that you can leave the app running and not only will it save loading time it will have no affect on the battery. Did you also know that once you have typed your text and you press and hold the screen above the keyboard you can double tap message and use the text directly in a new message? You can also reply to messages directly so long as the message was originally sent with Fleksy. Hope these all help. On 10/08/2012 11:43, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, yeah, I've used it. I'm slightly impressed, but not enough to use it whenever I type. I text often, so I usually just end up sliding to reply when it comes in on the lock screen and typing away. That's more convenient than waiting for Fleksy to load more times than I think it should, especially because they told me that it only will when you reboot the phone. It doesn't though. So, that's my biggest gripe so far. The new update does work quite well, and it's a nice solution for typing and would be great if Apple decided to implement this as an alternative input method, but I can't be bothered to wait for it to load or bring it up to type what I want then switch back to Messages. If it could integrate with threads so you could select which one to attach the text to, then I'd love it. Even when I turn VoiceOVer off and type regularly, I still can't type as fast as Fleksy allows me to type. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Chris (gmail) christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. Some of you may be using this app already, but thought I would spread the word about it now a major new update has hit the app store. To find out more, click on the following link. http://fleksy.com/2012/08/09/fleksy-major-update-now-free-to-try/ Happy typing! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list
Re: Mac air vs macbook pro
Hi, I chose the MacBook Air for portability reasons. I didn't want a MacBook pro because of its weight, and I didn't really need the noise. My MacBook Air has the 2.0GHZ processor which is turbo boosted to 3.2 GHZ, 8GB of RAM and only 128GB of disk space. However, I could've picked a 512GB SSD as well, but I don't need it on a laptop that is mainly going to be used for studying. Also, keep in mind that while you can update the MacBook Pro to 16GB of RAM instead, you may never need it, so this won't necessarily prove to be an advantage. The MacBook Air has several heating vents, and it doesn't actually get very hot unlike some of the earlier models. At least, it's not as horrible as you might believe. When the fan actually does work hard, it doesn't make a lot of noise. The only thing you can truly hear is all that air, but that's not really surprising. You can hear the fan noise too, of course, but I haven't found it to be very loud even when running at full speed. Regards, Nicolai On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Thank you all Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:33 AM, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ian, Yes you are right to a point the newer mac's are very powerful with the quad core processors and a nice amount of ram and having ssd hard drives that respond very quickly it was not that long ago that most people chose desktops but now most are moving towards portable computers like netbooks laptops and tablet pc's I used to work for a large retail store and I was on the panel that chose the computers for all there stores and at that stage in the late 1999's desktop where still king but no longer with wifi making the choice of buying a portable computer a better choice but it still comes down to personal choice in the end. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype : deanadams9 On 01/08/2012, at 5:22 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi, I like the desktop better than the lap top because I find it more powerful. I do understand though that a lot of laptops are becoming as powerful if not more powerful than desktops. Ian McNamara --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe
Re: Mountain Lion App store question
Hello Paul, Try going to the purchases tab, then interact with the cell that says Installed. You should hear that the installed button is dimmed. Now, try hitting Option-Space. This overwrites the behaviour of OS X and forces the app to reinstall if it is not already. This also works on applications you have already installed and register correctly. When you have hit Option-Space, you can stop interacting with the cell and VO-left then right. It should then say that the button is now Pause. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, I am having problems on Mountain Lion re-installing an App previously installed from the Mac App store on Lion. I went to the purchases menu but could not see an active install button for the required app. I thought that on Lion you could re-install an App from the Mac App store via the purchases menu. the FAQW for the Mac App store say that you can indeed re-install an An App previously installed from the Mac App store. On Mountain Lion all that I can see is a dimmed install button. Is this an Apple bug? Best regards Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: infovox ivox 3
Hi William, They are charging by voice now. You can purchase credits which only cover one voice, or multiple voices at once. The only difference being that Scandinavian voices cost more in terms of credits. Obviously, if you already purchased a voice pack when you had iVox 2.x or earlier, you have in a sense already purchased the credits to redeem those voices. What's also nice about their new system is that it is based on accounts and no longer activation codes. If you create an account, your licenses will be transferred to the account and you can simply log in to your account in order to activate all the voices for which you hold a license. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:21 PM, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: the new credit system is a bit strange why not just charge per voice On 28 Jul 2012, at 13:21, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Again, just download the voice manager and use the activation keys you have. V3 is a free upgrade. If you have English and French activation keys, they will work. On 27 Jul 2012, at 21:40, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: i will try and get the english voices i actually want and see if my key works i assume though as for v2, I won't need the french installed first as that was my original pack On 27 Jul 2012, at 21:21, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Just download the voice manager. The upgrade is free. On 27 Jul 2012, at 20:05, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: hi all i just noticed ix 3 was out how will upgrades work for those of us who purchased 2 in language packs? the new french male sounds very creepy but the english indian sounds very good. the new voice manager is fantastic you can preview the voices within the app download them, and even start your demo period from within the app --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---
Re: Voiceover on sites with Ajax, was Re: Any progress?
Hi Gordon, I'm a bit confused then. Where, exactly, is the problem? I'm able to see my current books and redownload the PDFs just fine. Can you give exact directions? Regards, Nicolai On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: The reason we maintain separate bookshelves is that if you buy from us, you're not registered with the publishers. But, of course, anybody is at perfect liberty to buy from the publishers directly if they wish. I still maintain though that we are offering value for money, even if the site was accessible with VoiceOver. Windows users could probably use the site fine, I haven't tried it. But it's a case of each to their own. If people buy books from Travis, Travis handles the transactions directly. We are, however, perfectly happy to provide access to people's books in the same way as if they bought from us directly. All they'd have to do is send us proof of purchase and we could set it up. There was one suggestion a while ago that we were making money out of people by doing this. I can't deny I was pretty annoyed by that accusation because, in actual fact, we make nothing out of it. We do it purely as a courtesy and the same goes for Travis. If you have an account on their site, go and try to access your books. I think you'll soon understand the issues. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 08:15, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote: I had wondered about this. I thought the discounted prices for Take Control books were of course very helpful. However, I had wondered why there was a separate bookshelf for us. I'm curious what kind of issues Voiceover users have reported with the Take Control site. I've found it easy to go there and quickly check to see if there have been any updates to the few books I own. I don't use the site much though, and I guess I just missed whatever the trouble spots are. If you could explain the problem, I could go back again and take a closer look. There might be a workaround. Anyway, on a different note, it's good to start actively participating in this group again. I've always been subscribed, just kind of forgot to check any of my discussion list folders for quite a while. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Voiceover on sites with Ajax, was Re: Any progress?
Hi, Hmm, that's curious. Mine appear as links within the different cells. I wonder if that might indeed have something to do with it, then. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Nic Right, maybe it depends upon how many books you have. But if I click on our book heading, as in Gordon Lynne Smith's Books, as I try to navigate the table all I get is repeatedly: Click the PDf download to download your book or something similar. Sometimes if I'm lucky I can navigate to the PDF link to download the file. But usually it's a total mess. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 09:47, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm a bit confused then. Where, exactly, is the problem? I'm able to see my current books and redownload the PDFs just fine. Can you give exact directions? Regards, Nicolai On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: The reason we maintain separate bookshelves is that if you buy from us, you're not registered with the publishers. But, of course, anybody is at perfect liberty to buy from the publishers directly if they wish. I still maintain though that we are offering value for money, even if the site was accessible with VoiceOver. Windows users could probably use the site fine, I haven't tried it. But it's a case of each to their own. If people buy books from Travis, Travis handles the transactions directly. We are, however, perfectly happy to provide access to people's books in the same way as if they bought from us directly. All they'd have to do is send us proof of purchase and we could set it up. There was one suggestion a while ago that we were making money out of people by doing this. I can't deny I was pretty annoyed by that accusation because, in actual fact, we make nothing out of it. We do it purely as a courtesy and the same goes for Travis. If you have an account on their site, go and try to access your books. I think you'll soon understand the issues. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 08:15, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote: I had wondered about this. I thought the discounted prices for Take Control books were of course very helpful. However, I had wondered why there was a separate bookshelf for us. I'm curious what kind of issues Voiceover users have reported with the Take Control site. I've found it easy to go there and quickly check to see if there have been any updates to the few books I own. I don't use the site much though, and I guess I just missed whatever the trouble spots are. If you could explain the problem, I could go back again and take a closer look. There might be a workaround. Anyway, on a different note, it's good to start actively participating in this group again. I've always been subscribed, just kind of forgot to check any of my discussion list folders for quite a while. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: Voiceover on sites with Ajax, was Re: Any progress?
Hi Gordon, I only have one book, admittedly, but it shows up in the table just fine in my library. I've been meaning to get other titles, actually, but I just haven't purchased others through the Take Control site. The other books I do have I have received through your service. It'd be interesting to hear a recording of this. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Nic Are you saying you can navigate the links using VoiceOver? How many books do you have? I can try and make a recording for you to demo what is happening. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 12:11, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hmm, that's curious. Mine appear as links within the different cells. I wonder if that might indeed have something to do with it, then. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 27, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Nic Right, maybe it depends upon how many books you have. But if I click on our book heading, as in Gordon Lynne Smith's Books, as I try to navigate the table all I get is repeatedly: Click the PDf download to download your book or something similar. Sometimes if I'm lucky I can navigate to the PDF link to download the file. But usually it's a total mess. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 09:47, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gordon, I'm a bit confused then. Where, exactly, is the problem? I'm able to see my current books and redownload the PDFs just fine. Can you give exact directions? Regards, Nicolai On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: The reason we maintain separate bookshelves is that if you buy from us, you're not registered with the publishers. But, of course, anybody is at perfect liberty to buy from the publishers directly if they wish. I still maintain though that we are offering value for money, even if the site was accessible with VoiceOver. Windows users could probably use the site fine, I haven't tried it. But it's a case of each to their own. If people buy books from Travis, Travis handles the transactions directly. We are, however, perfectly happy to provide access to people's books in the same way as if they bought from us directly. All they'd have to do is send us proof of purchase and we could set it up. There was one suggestion a while ago that we were making money out of people by doing this. I can't deny I was pretty annoyed by that accusation because, in actual fact, we make nothing out of it. We do it purely as a courtesy and the same goes for Travis. If you have an account on their site, go and try to access your books. I think you'll soon understand the issues. Gordon On 27 Jul 2012, at 08:15, Justin Ekis je...@me.com wrote: I had wondered about this. I thought the discounted prices for Take Control books were of course very helpful. However, I had wondered why there was a separate bookshelf for us. I'm curious what kind of issues Voiceover users have reported with the Take Control site. I've found it easy to go there and quickly check to see if there have been any updates to the few books I own. I don't use the site much though, and I guess I just missed whatever the trouble spots are. If you could explain the problem, I could go back again and take a closer look. There might be a workaround. Anyway, on a different note, it's good to start actively participating in this group again. I've always been subscribed, just kind of forgot to check any of my discussion list folders for quite a while. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan
Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet
Hi, The latest VMWare Fusion works perfectly fine. The latest version is 4.1.3, but every 4.x version has worked without a hitch. VMWare may not be aware it works if they don't have the ability to test it, of course, which is where this might stem from. Either way, though, it works fine and as expected. Even if VMWare doesn't officially support Fusion under Mountain Lion, it still runs my virtual machines so that's proof enough. There may be initial features that Mountain Lion has added which are not supported by Fusion, but obviously that's just a matter of VMWare implementing them. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Sarah It's quite probable that version 3 won't work. There were a lot of OS changes since v3 was discontinued. Can you shed any light as to which version your contact(s) is/are running? Gordon On 26 Jul 2012, at 02:19, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm mm the error was this app can't can't run on this type of computer, which is strange as ml installed fine. I wonder why most are having the issue and some are not. Ah well I have my CCC back up. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
Hi, Nope, you can update to Mountain Lion just fine. The drivers and so-forth are completely separate, so you shouldn't encounter any issues. I can't think of any, anyway. It'll still boot into Windows as expected, and you can still set startup disks, etc. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Good morning, all! From everything I've heard, today is the day that Mountain Lion is going to be released. The problem is, I can't decide if I am going to buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is whether or not Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it isn't going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back up my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back up my current settings. There are still a few things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able to get that working as expected under Lion. Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite excited about this update, so I hope I can get it. Missy --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
Hi, Just for those who have a qualified Mac for the up-to-date program, you won't be able to complete the form. Read more here: https://uptodate.apple.com/UtdPrepareAction?program=Mountain%20Lionlocale=en_us It appears that the page uses a widget which does not work with VoiceOver, probably using a canvas element or another visual element to set the date of purchase. This is an epic fail, and reminds me of how horrible Apple sometimes is with ensuring their sites work with VoiceOver, and comes somewhat close to the MobileMe/iCloud experiences. Just a word of warning. If you have anyone sighted nearby, they can probably help. Using VoiceOver I haven't been able to do it, but I can do it without VoiceOver just fine because it's a widget. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Your original will be safe but if I were you I'd definitely backup anything important. If you need an offsite place we could provide you with a private backup folder for your important files in a secure and safe environment. This is something we've been thinking about offering free of charge to list members, just to help them get upgraded safely. Gordon On 25 Jul 2012, at 12:28, Missy Hoppe mitmee@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! In that case, I'll probably try to get it as soon as it comes out. I wish I had a spare drive for backing up Lion, but since that's not in the budget, I'll just assume that everything will go smoothly. It worked out well enough with Lion last year, although I'm glad I had a drive for backing up SL. I don't feel that same need to have a backup this year. I guess my logic is that if ML ends up being too terrible, I've still got SL to fall back on; not too much I'd miss about Lion specifically. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mountain Lion Up-to-date program for recent Mac buyers [was Re: Take Control Titles]
Hi, I pointed this out in an earlier message about upgrading to Mountain Lion. If you hit enter, VoiceOVer speaks the current date but I haven't found a way to accessibly change it. I'd guess that it's a widget which makes use of a canvas element or another visual element to change the date, but the arrow keys don't actively seem to do anything. In a lot of cases, the mouse is the only way to use these kinds of elements. My guess is that you can use Mouse keys, but I'm not very proficient at them and I find them pretty slow as they only seem to move by pixel. I've done this without VoiceOVer on, and I just tried this with VoiceOver on as well and it works. Essentially, what VoiceOver does not pick up is that it is a table imbedded within a widget such as a canvas, which contains the various dates. You have to click on them to change the date. If you use the Speak text under mouse after delay checkbox in VoiceOver Utility/Verbosity/Announcements tab, you can use the mouse to quite accessibly move your finger over the various columns and click to change it. VoiceOver will announce the change, but be sure to hit enter first when the date text has focus or VoiceOver seems to remain quiet. I also recommend that if you use this approach, set the delay slider to 0% so that it is 0 seconds. Obviously, it's important that you ensure the mouse has focus with VO-F5. The element normally does obtain focus as expected, but if not, hit VO-Command-F5 and start moving around to try to find the date you want. Again, Apple should have designed this with accessibility in mind, but it has not it would seem. I'm sorry if this sounds like a very crazy approach, but it seems to be the only one in this instance. Mouse keys seem to move by pixels, and this is fine except it would take a very long time to get between the various columns. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:31 AM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Right, I get that. But when attempting to type into this field, voiceover wouldn't do it. On 7/25/12, mori...@mac.com mori...@mac.com wrote: Hello Josh, Tim, and Others, I've changed the subject line because you are talking about the program for getting a free upgrade to Mountain Lion if you purchased either a new Mac from Apple or a qualifying reseller between June 11 and July 25, 2012, or a refurbished Mac from Apple between those dates. This program also applies to new Macs that you buy from qualifying resellers after today, but which come with Lion installed. The program is called Up-to-Date, and you have to file a request with Apple through their web form either by August 24, 2012 (in the case of purchases before today), or within 30 days of your purchase date (in the case of new Macs purchased after today, but which have Lion loaded as the operating system). The way this works is that after your purchase is verified you get a coupon code to apply for your purchase of Mountain Lion through the Mac App Store, but I've heard there have been some problems with some of these codes not working in the massive startup today. For more information, check the web page explaining the Up-to-Date program: http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/ Josh, the date text field is supposed to refer to the date of your purchase, so they can check for eligibility. I think this is probably easiest if you purchased from an Apple Store or through their online store, because they can immediately match the records to verify your transaction. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:53 AM, josh gregory wrote: My mom had to help me do it, the field for the date just said date text And I don't think it'd let you complete it without it. I emailed Apple about it. On 7/25/12, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I think you have to fill out a form for the free mountain lion upgrade. I believe it is on Apple's website. On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:30 PM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: What's different about it? Sorry don't mean to sound rude at all but I'm still waiting for apple to email me with the link or whatever it is to get it free, since I got my mac a month ago. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Ways to
Re: Apps not supported on Mountain Lion (was Infovox ivox voices and Mountain Lyon)
Hi, X11 might not be supported under 10.8. In fact, the page that leads to the download page no longer exists. It's worth considering which apps may not be supported, though I'd expect most already work. Mountain Lion has a lot of changes, but not a complete redesign. Secondly, the way VoiceOver interacts with 10.7 hasn't changed surprisingly much in 10.8, at least in terms of voice usage, so Infovox iVox works even if you're using 2.0.1, though I recommend updating to 3.0 if able for the added responsiveness, pronunciation improvements and new voices. You should be able to safely update a lot of applications, or use existing ones. Some applications won't have the new features implemented in Mountain Lion, but that's a matter of the developer not having updated it to support Mountain Lion just yet. Another concern is that some applications do check if you're running the intended version of OS X, even though a majority of them can run on Mountain Lion despite whether or not the developer can only vouch for 10.7 compatibility. It's worth investigating whether or not X11 is no longer supported. I'm not sure if Lion has the X11 icon in Utilities and brings you to a download page when you click it, but that's how 10.8 has it. Apparently, everyone is speculating that 10.8 will arrive on July 25. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: Folks Eric brings up a point. Anyone who uses the Zoom Office or Eyepal software should under no circumstances upgrade. These tools are based on X11 which isn't in Mountain lion. I've even tried downloading XQuartz and doing manual installs but no joy. Dónal On 19 Jul 2012, at 14:29, Eric Caron wrote: hi Listers, Recently I exchanged a few emails with the folks that support the Infovox iVox voices. I asked in passing about the voices and Mountain Lyon. they wrote back that they would not recommend updating as they were not sure at the voices would work. so I wanted to suggest that if you heavily use those voices you may want to consider waiting on the upgrade when it becomes available. Eric Caron --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: fleksy is out!
Hi, I've tried the app. In fact, I downloaded it while I was on holiday because the hotel I was staying at on my way home offered free Wi-Fi. I find myself typing very accurately with this. Even without VoiceOver, you can hit the wrong letter with the regular keyboards, so Fleksy is actually helpful here in that you don't have to delete anything in most cases. In my case, my hands are too big to always hit the letters accurately even when I use VoiceOver, so Fleksy is very helpful because it allows me to simply type and forget. I don't have to focus as much on whether I'm touching the write letter, and this helps even when I don't use VoiceOver. Incorporating this into IOS would be a pretty good solution, at least an alternative one. I don't agree that it should be the only text input method particularly when Fleksy receives international keyboard support, but being able to switch to it as you would a keyboard already implemented into iOS would be very efficient as it would apply to any text area. Third party developers can already do this, but developers do not have enough control over the implementation as they can only change the letters and symbols. I find myself forgetting to use Fleksy, though. Because it can not be switched to like the other keyboards, I find myself sliding when I get a text in order to reply and just typing, as opposed to bringing up Fleksy, entering what I want to type, then copying or sending it to a message. In this particular instance, having it incorporated into iOS would be very useful. Unless Apple comes up with something even better which somehow does not require you to turn off VoiceOver, it seems to me that this would be an avenue worth pursuing. The price seems very justifiable. It's a great solution, works very well and while it is specifically designed for blind people, it's even helping me out when I look at the screen and I don't have to look so much at what I'm typing or even at the keyboard itself. I've avoided a lot of tripping while texting with this application, so I'd say it helps avoid injuries even though you could just avoid texting while you walk entirely. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 15, 2012, at 8:29 AM, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: still want to try this but until ipad version is out i think i'm best off waiting even though it can sort of be used. trying it on a frends iphone later this week don't have an iphone at the moment On 15 Jul 2012, at 07:10, krystal watson krystalwat...@bluebottle.com wrote: actually for those that think using the letter hold feature slows typing down it really does not at least not fore me infact i am much faster typing using it that way as i am not stressed about what i am pressing and having to corect trillions of things that if i had pressed the right letter in the first place i would have not had to corect the reason why its faster then touch typing on i phone is i don't need to worry about spaces so each to there own on how they like to use it just telling you that i find it easier this way and i did read up on it and dev says its fine for me to use it that way if i choose to do so one day i hope i will get to the point that i won't need to do that but for now if i feel safe doing it this way i will continue to do so thanks all On 15/07/2012, at 12:57 PM, Andrea Breier wrote: I posted with my constructive criticism, and you call crying? I thought my post offered up a lot more that the price. I will probably will at some point get this app, because as I stated before, I think it is a really cool app and could help blind folks with other options for input. . Hugs, Andrea M. Breier -Original Message- From: Mike Maslo Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:54 AM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: fleksy is out! I think it is country productive to cry about a price. If you think a application is to expensive don't buy it. Why keep crying over something you can't do a thing about it. I thought this list was for constructive criticism and not. A arena to complain about a price of a application. As Gordon states earlier some like it and others don't. What is the purpose of complaining? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Andrea Breier abre...@kc.rr.com wrote: Exactly Gordon, this is all just food for thought. I went to the app store and this was what I personally thought of what I saw regarding this particular app. It is alright to post comments for discussion here? As far as trials provided in the app store. I disagree. I have downloaded several apps that had in app purchase, i.e. navigon and planet finder, and also apps that had a thirty day free trial attached. I do not recall the exact app, but it was a gps app that used voice input to set up your routs. Maybe others can recall, but I don't remember off hand. Like I said in my first post, I think this app sounds
Re: fan in mbp?
Hi Lynne, Depending on what application he used to play music (we'll assume iTunes,) some processes in OS X sometimes run very resource-hungry tasks. One resource to watch out for in particular is mdworker. What this stands for is Metadata Server worker and it ensures that your files are Indexed using Spotlight, and is the core technology behind the search engine. It generates its index using metadata making it possible to find files instantaneously using Spotlight. It's very much known to take up a lot of CPU, so this is probably what happened. It tends to really start working when you, for instance, plug in an external hard drive. Keep in mind that it tries to index all of the new files that it discovers, so depending on the new files found it may take longer than you expect. Also depending on the workload it will work harder, but the high CPU usage is totally normal. Other processes may increase your CPU usage, like Voiceover, but if VoiceOver does this often you need to do some tro ubleshooting. VoiceOVer is designed to hardly eat up any resources. You can review the CPU usage of your processes through /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app or by using Terminal commands. A kernel panic is something entirely different and actually causes your Mac to freeze, and even third party programs can cause this, although kernel panics should be extremely rare. it is an internal fatal error for which your operating system cannot recover, and is often related to hardware problems though some software particularly in the operating system itself may trigger the behaviour. It's a safety mechanism which aims to prevent data corruption and the risk of data breaches, and attempts to facilitate a diagnosis of the error. For those familiar with Windows, this is what most users even consumers call the blue screen, or Bug check. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh and Sarah There are occasions where you can run into what I believe is a Panic at a very low level. These Panics or Kernel Panics can cause symptoms such as the fan speed increasing or hard drive access becoming sluggish. In a lot of cases, you can help your Mac recover from these Panics by simply shutting it down and then restarting. I'm lead to believe that some or all of these Panics are logged and can be sent to Apple as a report. Of course, somebody may know better than I; in fact they probably do. But having read a lot of stuff on Apple's technical pages I think this is the kind of situation you're running into. Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 02:18, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything to seriously worry about? Like will anything happen to my mac from it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: fan in mbp?
Hi Lynne, OS X can reboot about 15 seconds later if you set the option in the Energy Saver preferences, however this feature seems to be the default under 10.8, Mountain Lion, and cannot be changed. Kernel panics may cause the fan to whirl a lot, but it's not going to matter because when your Mac throws a kernel panic, you can't use it. Under Linux this works slightly differently because it can also throw what is called a kernel oops, which means the kernel runs after killing the offending processes, however this can lead to further instabilities which may eventually cause a full kernel panic, so this is where the confusion may arise. OS X will display a multilingual error message telling you to reboot until your computer restarts, or it will reboot on its own depending on your preference. Anyway, I digress. Bottom line is that the option to automatically reboot under Lion seems to be optional, and not set by default. In this case, you may experience high fan activity but in either scenario, Mac OS X is unusable because of the error encountered. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic I will top post here; so as to make it easy for you to quickly read my reply. I don't claim to be anywhere close to your level of expertise when it comes to the oS. But I have read that a Kernel Panic can cause high fan activity. I agree with your description of a Kernel Panic in comparison to the dreaded Blue Screen that Windows users will know so well. Perhaps my description was a little inaccurate and, if so, I apologise most humbly for that. ;-) Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 13:37, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lynne, Depending on what application he used to play music (we'll assume iTunes,) some processes in OS X sometimes run very resource-hungry tasks. One resource to watch out for in particular is mdworker. What this stands for is Metadata Server worker and it ensures that your files are Indexed using Spotlight, and is the core technology behind the search engine. It generates its index using metadata making it possible to find files instantaneously using Spotlight. It's very much known to take up a lot of CPU, so this is probably what happened. It tends to really start working when you, for instance, plug in an external hard drive. Keep in mind that it tries to index all of the new files that it discovers, so depending on the new files found it may take longer than you expect. Also depending on the workload it will work harder, but the high CPU usage is totally normal. Other processes may increase your CPU usage, like Voiceover, but if VoiceOver does this often you need to do some t ro ubleshooting. VoiceOVer is designed to hardly eat up any resources. You can review the CPU usage of your processes through /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app or by using Terminal commands. A kernel panic is something entirely different and actually causes your Mac to freeze, and even third party programs can cause this, although kernel panics should be extremely rare. it is an internal fatal error for which your operating system cannot recover, and is often related to hardware problems though some software particularly in the operating system itself may trigger the behaviour. It's a safety mechanism which aims to prevent data corruption and the risk of data breaches, and attempts to facilitate a diagnosis of the error. For those familiar with Windows, this is what most users even consumers call the blue screen, or Bug check. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Josh and Sarah There are occasions where you can run into what I believe is a Panic at a very low level. These Panics or Kernel Panics can cause symptoms such as the fan speed increasing or hard drive access becoming sluggish. In a lot of cases, you can help your Mac recover from these Panics by simply shutting it down and then restarting. I'm lead to believe that some or all of these Panics are logged and can be sent to Apple as a report. Of course, somebody may know better than I; in fact they probably do. But having read a lot of stuff on Apple's technical pages I think this is the kind of situation you're running into. Lynne On 4 Jul 2012, at 02:18, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything to seriously worry about? Like will anything happen to my mac from it? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: macbook
Hi, Actually, the MacBook essentially does not come in three flavours anymore. The MacBook is no longer being supported, at least not officially by Apple. You can get them with educational pricing, at least where I live, but not without the educational discount. The MacBook Pro and MacBook Air are still supported, however, so those are the ones you'd want to pick up if you plan to get one. This doesn't mean that any authorised reseller in your country will not have any of these models in stuck, whether it's the white plastic MacBook or the aluminum one, since the aluminium MacBook was adopted into the MacBook Pro line. The reason that a lot of people think I had the white plastic MacBook and are not aware of the aluminium model is because it was released back in 2008 without a firewire port, and was adopted into the MacBook Pro line and discontinued as a MacBook when it received a Firewire upgrade. Consequentially, Apple didn't make another MacBook model until 2009 which retained the unibody design but came in plastic. Essentially, it does come in three flavours, but you're going to have to rely on either educational pricing or a local reseller. That's the bottom line. It was quietly discontinued, and I didn't see any announcements about it. It just quietly went away. The sensible choices now are the MacBook Air or the MacBook Pro if you want to go for a laptop. Regards, Nicolai On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Yep it is. it comes in 2 flavors. the macbook air, the macbook and the macbook pro. Ok. I lied, 3 different flavors. The macbook air is like a netbook. the rest are flu size laptops with veering screen sizes, 13, 15 and 17. Take care. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:13 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: Isn't a Macbook Apple's version of a full sized laptop? On 03/07/2012 15:39, Patricia Taylor wrote: sorry but I do not quite understand what is macbook ? ,can you help --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at:
Re: Is there an easy way to examine the clipboard?
Hi, Certain elements you can't review them by character, even if you interact. Not all elements will let you interact with them to read them, or even use VO-W. In the case of Finder, it is possible, but not all elements even if they appear as menu buttons, etc. Menu buttons is one particular element. If you want to, you can use Clipboard History. It lets you save as many history items as you want and you can then bring up the element in a contextual menu by using shortcuts. So, for instance, if you want to bring up the latest item in the clipboard you can hit CTRL-V. Hitting enter on it will paste it, but you can also read it with VO-W or VO-W-W to have it spelled out. However, you can't interact with menu items. You can, however, insert the ten latest copied items with Command-1 through 0. I use this often because it allows me to have favourites for the clipboard, and also comes in handy when there's information you thought you didn't need that you suddenly find yourself needing to paste. Of course, you have commands for favourites as well. I know it's not a fix, as such, but it may help you out. Here's the Applevis article I posted with more information, as well as the shortcuts available. I think it's a relevant application because it does let you examine the clipboard, since bringing them up in contextual menu items is not the only way to see them. http://www.applevis.com/mac-app-directory/productivity/clipboard-history Regards, Nicolai On Jul 1, 2012, at 2:19 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote: I am still not sure that you need to copy to the clipboard to do this. In general just keep on interacting with the element and you should eventually get to a stage where you can review the spelling by cursoring character by character. Specifically in Safari, you just need to interact with text, To read characters you will need to turn Quick nav off temporarily by pressing right and left cursor arrow together. Now pressing right or left arrow will read character by character just like in Text edit. Press left and right arrow again to turn quick navb back on. however in Finder the easiest way to read the characters of a folder or file name is simply to press return on it. This will enable you to edit the file name and whilst you will not necessarily want to do this in this mode you can just cursor along and get voiceover to read the folder or filename character by character. Pres return again and the folder and filename will return to normal. David Griffith. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell Sent: 01 July 2012 12:31 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Is there an easy way to examine the clipboard? Hello Anne, Yes I understand how to spell phonetically while reading or typing normal text. My problem is that I cannot always understand what VO says when arrowing down a list of folder and file names in Finder or sometimes when encountering controls in Safari (I cannot recreate this at the moment so am not sure of the precise circumstances). A possible solution to these problems which will work in all circumstances is to use VO+Shift+C to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard and then paste that to a textedit window and then cursor around to hear individual words or characters. It would then be nice if I did not have to paste the clipboard into a textedit window in order to explore it. FOr file and folder names I can press Enter as if I were going to edit that name and then cursor over the name to fully understand it. However that does not work with the difficult web page elements. Thanks to David for the tip on the VO setting which will speak characters phonetically if you cursor over it and wait a bit. YOu can find that in the VO settings under verbosity and announcements. Best regards Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web
Re: a website for viewing apps that are no longer in the iTunes app store? Please?
Hi Josh, In a lot of cases, yes. If the developer has the application available to circumvent the App Store, at least on OS X, you can get it via Mac-Update if they have it listed. Even if they don't, though, you can also try to Google it. In the case of Sandboxing, as someone who has worked with it, under iOS Sandboxing refers to a two-step process which basically takes away most capabilities for interacting with the system. Then, by use of Entitlements, developers can restore functionality to parts of iOS the application requires if needed. For OS X, this works a bit differently but the concept is the same. The Sandboxing access Control technology will allow the application in question to grant the permissions to access other parts of the system, but no more than what is granted. However, where this differs from iOS is because drag and drop and Open and Save dialogs can permit transparent access bypassing the Sandboxing restrictions, in order to use files within other directories, such as personal data. What's great about his approach, actually, is that the data the application needs to access is stored within its own container, thus isolating the damage in case of malicious code. Only files and resources within the app's sandbox will be affected. Of course, it can limit you because it won't provide free access to anything unless it is permitted, and this includes directories unless using two particular classes which I won't go into here. However, these two classes will not allow the user to use any features bey ond what the classes permit. In this case, the Open and Save dialogs. That's the short version. it gets a lot more complicated, but that'd be too boring. Some developers pull their apps because it may not be possible to adopt a particular feature to coexist with App Sandboxing design principals, and some haven't found an intuitive method to rewrite the feature to take advantage of it seamlessly. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 27, 2012, at 12:03 AM, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. A couple questions. Will apps no longer in the app store still be available through macupdate.com? Secondly, what are sandboxing restrictions? Thanks! On 6/26/12, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote: Hi Sarah, I'm not sure what you want. If you just want a description of the app, you can find that for almost every app at the MacUpdate site. If you mean that you want a web site that will tell you that a particular app is no longer in the App Store, but that it once was there, then you can do a Google search on the name of the app, and Appshopper to find their Mac app listings. If the app was just pulled, then the AppShopper listing will still show as being current, and you can copy it. If a day or so has passed, the AppShopper page will say App removed from site, but you'll still be able to navigate down the page and read the old description. When apps get pulled from the iOS App Store, this is usually the way that I check they're gone. Also, I can still navigate to the App Activitiy heading and check the last time stamps for a sense of when the app was last around. Of course, in the case of some long gone apps, such as the i-map-u that Geoff recalls would give your nea rest intersection, and which was available from 2008 through to early 2011 (maybe January or February), the last activity that shows is the price drop back to $0.99 in April of 2009! Which app disappeared? A lot of apps are pulling out of the Mac App store with the new sandboxing restrictions. For example, TextExpander has a new version 4.0 release that just came out, but which isn't in the Mac App store because it doesn't meet the restrictions. The new features make it easier to generate template letters (where you fill in a name, or personalize small sections of a form reply), but because its snippet substitutions will work in any app, unlike the more limited text expansion that is available in Lion for Mail and a few frequently used applications, it doesn't meet the sandboxing restrictions and won't appear in the Mac App Store. I think this may apply to apps like Panic's Transmit, as well. (My Transmit license was an upgrade, done outside of the App Store.) See, for example, the MacWorld article from last week: TextExpander 4 adds features, but must leave the Mac App Store: http://www.macworld.com/article/1167373/textexpander_4_adds_features_leaves_mac_app_store.html HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hello to all. I just recorded a podcast and was prepping to do the show notes when to my horror i realized through searching the app was no longer in the app store. Is there a site i can link to that at least gives the descriptions? i don't think you can download apps that are not there anymore so i won't even go there but any help would be appreciated. Thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To
Re: Booting the New Mac Mini
Hi Lynne, This is the same with memory upgrades, and even hard drives. You can't, for instance, swap a non-Apple hard drive into an iMac from 2011, at least not without the right firmware. I accidentally went ahead and got one that didn't have the correct firmware onboard, and the fan just started whirring as loudly as possible and pretty much displaying a blank screen of death. They do the same with memory modules now. I've never really used Apple-branded RAM, so imagine my surprise this morning when my iMac was unable to boot out of nowhere. I had to dig around in boxes to find the old RAM, and essentially keep all of my other memory sticks that are now a total waste of money. Honestly, I find this a bit much. Machine specific installations, I can understand due to features becoming more advanced. What I cannot understand, though, is why it has to matter what hardware you use. As long as you get the right modules, it shouldn't matter. Apparently, Apple thinks otherwise. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody OK; we just tried something here which has left us feeling a little bit disappointed in Apple's new policies. How far will they go down the road of control freaking? We decided to try and put one of our new Mac Mini machines on to Snow Leopard Server. So, we duly connected its superdrive, inserted the Snow Leopard Server DVD and then power-cycled the machine. Upon successful POST, we held down the C key, in order to have it boot from the DVD. Well, it tried; but then came up with an incompatibility message. The on-screen message just said that this OS was too old to boot the machine and it flatly refused to go any further. So, we then tried to install the server by means of the installation utility once the machine was booted, and got the same message. So, it would appear that, although you can boot mid 2011 Mac Minis from DVD, you cannot boot them from a Snow Leopard DVD. This shocked me a little, since there's no earthly reason why Snow Leopard will not run in this environment. It also means I presume that, if one wanted to run LINUX on a machine like this, one couldn't do so. This really does come across as paranoia gone beyond the stage of madness. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple MacBook Air SuperDrive MacBook Pro Don't Get Along Together!
Hello Lynne, Yes, you can make it work. It's a firmware limitation, that's correct, but you can fix it by editing one text file. The file you need to edit is /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist You may wish to check if you have permissions on it first before editing it. You probably don't to start with. You can edit the file in Text Edit or even using Terminal and Nano if you prefer. You actually need to add one simple thing to a currently existing line. string mbasd=1 /string That is what the string should look like exactly. Keep in mind you don't need to add a second one of these, just add mbasd=1 to the line as instructed above. I've used this fix on all my computers so far. When you save the file, be sure it's still listed as a plist file. It should be, however, since Text Edit automatically defaults to plain text. After you're done, go ahead and reboot. That should be it. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 17, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Anne On 17 Jun 2012, at 09:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: • We had the same problem you're having when we tried to use my MacBook Air Superdrive on Archie's MacBook Pro last year. We didn't pursue the issue so I don't know whether there's a solution. Gordon thinks it's a firmware issue. He doesn't think there is a work-around. Thank you for the confirmation. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple MacBook Air SuperDrive MacBook Pro Don't Get Along Together!
Hi Lynne, You can do this three different ways. I'll outline these below. The first option seems to automatically assume you want to create a group for that particular user, despite you'll only be changing the permissions for the Admin group and not creating a new group that's under your username. I don't seem to be able to delete it and revert the group options, at least not the way you're supposed to. The first option is the way of the Finder. You can go to the file that you wish to change permissions for, then select Get Info from the item's contextual menu or simply hit Command-I to bring it up. Next, move down to the lock and unlock it, then enter the password when prompted. This will make it so that you can actually muck around with permissions in the Privileges table. What you want to do first is go to the SystemConfiguration folder and bring up the Get Info box, then follow the steps above to change permissions. When you can change permissions within the table, move down to the Admin and select Read and write. Now, choose the Actions… pop up and select Apply to enclosed items. When done, just close the window. Of course be sure to revert this when you're finished editing. You can also do this based on individual files, however the folder still needs to have the right permissions first. If applying the read and write permissions to every file inside the folder makes you feel uneasy, simply complete the steps you did on the folder on the specific files you want to edit. I'm not going to recommend doing it as Root, because root should only be used for serious system maintenance and allows you to access all files unrestricted. However, you can do it by going under Users and Groups in System Preferences, then click Join under the network server preferences under Login Options. If you can't do this, just click the lock and authenticate. next, click the Open Directory Utility button. Proceed to click the lock in the Directory utility, then authenticate. Go under the Edit menu and select Enable Root user. Enter the password you wish to use for the Root user. You can also do this via Terminal and chmod and using letters (symbolic codes) or numbers (octal,) but I wouldn't do this if you're not at least somewhat comfortable using it in the first place. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 17, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic Oopse, I id it again! I forgot to change accounts. On 17 Jun 2012, at 13:32, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic Thank you for this. I do not have permissions, as you said. So the next obvious thing I tried was to log in as root. But using root as the name and password it would not let me in. Where do I go from here please? Lynne On 17 Jun 2012, at 12:41, Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lynne, Yes, you can make it work. It's a firmware limitation, that's correct, but you can fix it by editing one text file. The file you need to edit is /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.Boot.plist You may wish to check if you have permissions on it first before editing it. You probably don't to start with. You can edit the file in Text Edit or even using Terminal and Nano if you prefer. You actually need to add one simple thing to a currently existing line. string mbasd=1 /string That is what the string should look like exactly. Keep in mind you don't need to add a second one of these, just add mbasd=1 to the line as instructed above. I've used this fix on all my computers so far. When you save the file, be sure it's still listed as a plist file. It should be, however, since Text Edit automatically defaults to plain text. After you're done, go ahead and reboot. That should be it. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 17, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Anne On 17 Jun 2012, at 09:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: • We had the same problem you're having when we tried to use my MacBook Air Superdrive on Archie's MacBook Pro last year. We didn't pursue the issue so I don't know whether there's a solution. Gordon thinks it's a firmware issue. He doesn't think there is a work-around. Thank you for the confirmation. Lynne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your
Re: What are Press and Hold Buttons in Mac OS?
Hi, Press and hold buttons are items which you can adjust by holding them down. This applies to sliders, splitters, steppers and even regular buttons. This is very useful, for instance, when you want to go forward in a track in iTunes. Another example is that holding the Add event button will display a list of Calendars in the Calendar application. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 14, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I heard if you press and hold vo space bar you can do that as well, but I don't know. I'm just saying on what I heard. we'll find out when it updates in the app store when ever they said it would. On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi there! I suppose that will work on the track pad like on the Iphone you can do a double tap and hold the second tap! So they could be adding it to Trackpad controls! hth Colin On 14 Jun 2012, at 15:31, Bryan Jones wrote: In Apple's official list of new features coming in Mountain Lion, they mention, VoiceOver in Mountain Lion supports press and hold buttons. At the risk of sounding even more clueless than I usually do, can anybody tell me what press and hold buttons are in the context of the Mac OS? I've googled it and even tried to think of what it might be from my days as a sighted Mac OS User, but while I can think of a few things that it *might* be, there's nothing that really sticks out in my mind as a definite answer. Here's a link to Apple's page listing the new ML features, including the handful of accessibility features: http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html TIA, Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: a good accessible disk utility program.
Hi! yeah, this totally baffles me as well. Disk Utility works perfectly fine. So far, I've only seen one thing that doesn't work under 10.7, and that's locating the Destination field when restoring a disk image to a drive. It's doable if you know how to use a mouse, but it appears VoiceOver doesn't know it's there otherwise. Regards, Nicolai On Jun 10, 2012, at 7:44 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net wrote: Out of curiosity, how is Disk Utility not accessible? I have partitioned drives and repartitioned drives a number of times over the years. Lion is even more accessible in regard to if you need to repartition an existing drive. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Jun 10, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi Folks: I recently purchased an external thunderbolt drive. I want to partition the drive but it would appear that the disk utility is not that accessible. What is a good accessible disk management program? Thanks all over the place gang. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Apple to reject Mac App Store apps using hotkeys starting June 1?
Hi! I'm positive that it is. It wouldn't be beneficial whatsoever to remove all hotkey functionality from App Store Applications, and the article was even updated to say that they will not be rejecting them. Also, if that was the case, I'm sure it would have been submitted to developers to prepare them for the change. In the passed, Apple has always posted to the developer list of huge changes like these, and there has not been such a post. Similarly, the submission guidelines do not contain a mention of this. It's also worth mentioning that if Apple did make this change directly on June 1 without notifying developers, the App Store would be wiped of apps for at least a short time. I don't see how this would be beneficial, since at least the majority of applications most like contain hotkeys. Regards, Nicolai On May 18, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote: I actually wonder if this is a hoax, it simply makes no sense whatsoever for Apple to do something like this. On May 17, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Not a very good move on apple's part. I suggest we write to accesibil...@apple.com. i just did myself just a few minutes ago. http://goo.gl/fb/n5ywZ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Accessible Mud Client found
Hi! Thanks a lot for this! I've found about 15 of them in total, but none of the developers seemed very interested in either continuing development or improving VoiceOver support. No more Espeak now. I'll give this a bit of a test drive soon enough and give feedback of course. I wonder about scripting and so-forth, but I'm sure I can read about that. Regards, Nicolai On May 11, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi All, This may be of interest to some of you who are gamers, and have been wanting an accessible mud client for the Mac. I stumbled on one purely by accident yesterday whilst searching the Mac App Store, not really expecting to find any. The program is called Mudder. It has full VoiceOver accessibility, and can be set to speak all incoming text automatically using the system voice, and unlike some other clients I've tried it actually does this sensibly without interrupting itself. It currently costs $4.99. THere are some quirks with this early version, such as lack of support for a command history, and somewhat verbose labeling with VoiceOVer, but compared to the other options we have available this is leaps and bounds ahead. THe developer should be commended for being interested in supporting VO. I just thought I should pass this along, as I know this is a popular pastime among blind gamers who might be on this list. Yours, Zack. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: winclone no accessible with VO..
Hi, Oh, I got you. Now I'm not confused anymore. :) Regards, Nicolai On Apr 26, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Murielle (listes) listesdemurie...@gmail.com wrote: yes! so : winclone is usable with VO. Le 25 avr. 2012 à 21:18, David Griffith a écrit : Reading the whole email I suspect this is a typo and the lister really meant to say Winclone is now accessible rather than winclone is no accessible. David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen Sent: 25 April 2012 17:59 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: winclone no accessible with VO.. Hi! It still looks like the latest version is still 3.2, according to the site, and that is the version I have. It is perfectly accessible, and everything reads here. I've been using it ever since it was free, and then turned into something you had to pay for, though an individual license costs 19 dollars. I'd be very interested in knowing how you guys are using Voiceover if you can't make it read. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 24, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Murielle (listes) listesdemurie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, winclone is no accessible with VO. I had spoken with the developper and hi did some changes that I've tested and another blind too. Apply and info are here: http://twocanoes.com/software.php?software=1 Regards Murielle --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net
Re: winclone no accessible with VO..
Hi! It still looks like the latest version is still 3.2, according to the site, and that is the version I have. It is perfectly accessible, and everything reads here. I've been using it ever since it was free, and then turned into something you had to pay for, though an individual license costs 19 dollars. I'd be very interested in knowing how you guys are using Voiceover if you can't make it read. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 24, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Murielle (listes) listesdemurie...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, winclone is no accessible with VO. I had spoken with the developper and hi did some changes that I've tested and another blind too. Apply and info are here: http://twocanoes.com/software.php?software=1 Regards Murielle --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: CarrierCompare: Test your carrier's network quality
Hi! The application is actually international. Given the article only points out U.S. networks, though, and clearly haven't done any international testing, I have to wonder if it'll be anywhere near usable despite being in my store. I'll give it a try though and see what happens. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:50 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry this is for us only I think but not sure. Read on. http://money.cnn.com//2012/04/12/technology/carriercompare/index.htm?section=money_mostpopularutm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed:+rss/money_mostpopular+(Most+Popular) --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Mac going crazy when personal hotspaot
Hi! Actually, my situation is slightly different, but somewhat similar. Mine affects applications, and not the entire connection. I may be able to get network on YoruFukurou and iTunes, but Safari refuses to except the internet connection. Other times, for instance, I can't retrieve email but I can brows the web and use some other applications until I switch off Wi-Fi then turn it back on. Once I have some more concrete evidence, I'll forward it to Apple. It may be worth checking console logs though, just to be on the safe side. I know that occasions like this are sometimes logged, even though you get a lot of messages very frequently especially when errors occur. I think you may be correct on the DHCP/static IP case, though. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 12, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Lewis Crack lewiscr...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Lynne, I haven't had this problem, but this solution may work. Have you tried adding a new network, e.g AirPort2? I was thinking if your original WiFi uses static IP Address settings, you could sep a new one, which you could select specifically for your Personal Hotspot, therefore hopefully avoiding complications. Another thing: if you do use the one setting e.g Airport for both the Personal Hotspot and Original WiFi, you will have to keep changing the popup box back to Static IP, every time you wish to use your main WiFi. I have all mine set to DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol), so that's why I do not experience this issue. I hope this is of some help. Regards. Lewis. On 12 Apr 2012, at 13:32, Gordon Lynne wrote: Hello everybody; this is Lynne Has anybody else experienced a situation where, having used a personal hot spot with a Mac, when you return to your usual wi-fi nnetwork, the connection just won't work? Their could be a key point here; and that is that the hotspot IP connection uses DHCP, whereas our own networks use static IP addresses. Anybody else seen any such problems? Lynne -- Gordon Lynne Smith; gordon-and-ly...@mac-access.co.uk -- This message was sent using one hundred per cent recycled electrons. Be a lert ... the world needs lerts! ;-) --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld
Hi, Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got one year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't any better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a lot of countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to electronic equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and so-forth regardless of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And obviously, Apple misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for AppleCare for the second and third year when the two-year law in Europe didn't cover it at the time, which actually should have been the case as the article says. So, Apple deserves taking the heat for this one, though I'm kind of surprised their lawyers haven't acted on this to prevent the misleading claims. Since I'm into law, at least as a hobby, I've been rather upset when I've shown up with damaged equipment to find I wasn't covered, but my insurance company was perfectly able to replace the item if it was damaged beyond repair, at least if you include the coverage when signing insurance. Of course, I haven't had damaged items, but I like to test Apple since they've been rather troublesome, not just in this area but also when it comes to advertising. At any rate, I'm pretty happy to see Apple refining AppleCare and warranty now. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure what to think of this. but here's the article. the reader is available in this one. http://www.macworld.com/article/1166194/eu_law_forces_apple_twoyear_warranty.html#lsrc.rss_products_ipod --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld
Hi Jeff, Actually, what truly impacts the pricing of any product here are the tax rates, and at least last time I studied this, consumers and producers bargaining. They're usually price ratios which are determined by these two factors, while competition brings a tendency towards an equilibrium level. When taxes are levied, business are unable to immediately raise prices to forward the cost onto the consumer any more than before the tax was brought into action. It's a consumer/demand supply relationship. Of course, anyone can figure that out, since it's just common sense. It gets a bit more complicated, but I don't want to rant on here, since my primary knowledge is now in business ethics thanks to a friend. What Europeans know is that Apple violated the European consumer laws, which is the important factor. The price really is not, as long as Apple is in accordance with the laws set forth. In this case, they were not. From what I understand, U.S. consumer law provides one year of limited warranty, at least from what I can gather from the information off of Apple. Europeans generally also know that there's a rather big price difference in products from the U.S. as opposed to buying a similar product in Europe, at least in some cases. That's not only because of the 25%VAT implied in some countries, but it's definitely what plays the biggest part and what most consumers are going to know. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Amusing that they state: companies should offer a free two-year warranty. Do most Europeans actually believe its free of charge without even a modicum of impact on the pricing of a product? Its incredible that the vary people who applaud this sort of thing whine about the disparity in prices for identical products in their countries. Of course since the US President has been intentionally trashing this nations currency for over three years, y'all may have a more favorable exchange rate, but the reality is that all costs have a direct affect on a company's profit margin which must be offset by increasing revenue. The only method at a company's disposal to augment revenue is to price their goods and services accordingly. To be fair, the pro-EU faction of Europeans don't have a monopoly on believing politician's fairy tales of a free lunch. Its always amusing to watch supporters of our current President demand that these evil energy producers be taxed for various offenses having to do with being an evil corporation in general and the global warming hoax in particular. Ironically, those vary people complain when their electric bills skyrocket and they can't afford to fill their gas tanks, or purchase food (which generally requires transportation). To keep this topical, its probably fair to conclude that citizens of the affected EU nations shouldn't be surprised to discover that this will hit them directly in the pocket book, which would be identical to the affect of raising taxes on Apple. Corporations do not pay taxes you see -- they simply collect them from their customers. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:52 AM Subject: Re: EU law forces Apple two-year warranty | Macworld Hi, Actually, this is perfectly justifiable. Before just now, you only got one year of warranty if you included AppleCare, which truthfully isn't any better than what the insurance any other company can provide. In a lot of countries, you have an insurance which covers all damages to electronic equipment, like computers, televisions, microwaves and so-forth regardless of the warranty provided by the manufacturer. And obviously, Apple misleads customers by suggesting that we pay for AppleCare for the second and third year when the two-year law in Europe didn't cover it at the time, which actually should have been the case as the article says. So, Apple deserves taking the heat for this one, though I'm kind of surprised their lawyers haven't acted on this to prevent the misleading claims. Since I'm into law, at least as a hobby, I've been rather upset when I've shown up with damaged equipment to find I wasn't covered, but my insurance company was perfectly able to replace the item if it was damaged beyond repair, at least if you include the coverage when signing insurance. Of course, I haven't had damaged items, but I like to test Apple since they've been rather troublesome, not just in this area but also when it comes to advertising. At any rate, I'm pretty happy to see Apple refining AppleCare and warranty now. Regards, Nicolai On Apr 11, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure what to think of this. but here's the article. the reader is available
Re: volumes of mac voices
Hi william, Yes, I do. In fact, it varies depending on the voice you use. Also, the nitrate of the voices is also less than the originals. Daniel is low, but try Samantha, and I think you'll agree that she's right bang in your face. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:34 AM, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: hi to all do people find the volumes of the new real speak voices compared to say bruce and alex on the mac are low? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Time Capsule up and running again
Hi, I'm not planning on upgrading to Airport 6.0.0 or above whatsoever, personally, anyway. I haven't found options for RADIUS-based access control (802.1X) no IPV6 configuration, no more raw log views, and Apple apparently seems to have removed the options for Unix syslog server destinations for logging. Additionally, they even dropped SNMP networking monitoring support. Unfortunately, this includes the lack of wireless clients and DHCP client views which enabled you to see detailed information pertaining to your clients' signal strength over time on Wi-Fi, DHCP expiration and configuration details. You also can't set the Bonjour names of printers, nor can you set the base stations Bonjour host name. You can change the readable name, though, which displays in the Finder, but it's still not adequate. Windows workgroup support for internal disks has also been stripped. Another caveat, at least if you need it. Internal time zone can also not be set manually. I know some articles have already mentioned these, at least, I think that's the case. The ironic thing is that they can still be accessed through the hardware, but Apple just elected to remove these options from Airport Utility for whatever reason. So I'm sticking with 5.6. Given that my University has Airport base stations in several configurations but mostly run Windows computers, it's pretty maddening. I do love how the graphics show you a depiction of all the base stations though. Of course, a lot of this won't matter to home networks, but mostly enterprise. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com wrote: Hi! Posted a message last night to this list thinking that my Time Capsule had gone to TC heaven. Thankfully I was mistaken and some poking about the Apple support site, a look in some of the support forums and a good nights sleep has made all the difference. Somehow the settings in the TC had become corrupted and I wasn't able to change them wirelessly. Connecting the TC directly to my Imac made all the difference, was able to reset the TC to its defaults and do a total reconfiguration. Incidentally what do people think of the layout of the new Airport utility? It looked rather strange at first but having used it a lot now smile, well I'm used to the layout and its less cluttered than the previous versions had been. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Time Capsule up and running again
Hi, If it is, I've somehow missed that. I don't see it here, at least. I do know you can sometimes option-click items to make them pop out, but I don't think that's the case here. At least when I'm doing it, I don't see it. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:41 AM, Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com wrote: Okay, perhaps I'm wrong but isn't all that stuff available under the Network tab for your particular device? I recall seeing it there though I did wonder what happened to the IP6 stuff. On 26/03/2012, at 11:30 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I'm not planning on upgrading to Airport 6.0.0 or above whatsoever, personally, anyway. I haven't found options for RADIUS-based access control (802.1X) no IPV6 configuration, no more raw log views, and Apple apparently seems to have removed the options for Unix syslog server destinations for logging. Additionally, they even dropped SNMP networking monitoring support. Unfortunately, this includes the lack of wireless clients and DHCP client views which enabled you to see detailed information pertaining to your clients' signal strength over time on Wi-Fi, DHCP expiration and configuration details. You also can't set the Bonjour names of printers, nor can you set the base stations Bonjour host name. You can change the readable name, though, which displays in the Finder, but it's still not adequate. Windows workgroup support for internal disks has also been stripped. Another caveat, at least if you need it. Internal time zone can also not be set manually. I know some articles have already mentioned these, at least, I think that's the case. The ironic thing is that they can still be accessed through the hardware, but Apple just elected to remove these options from Airport Utility for whatever reason. So I'm sticking with 5.6. Given that my University has Airport base stations in several configurations but mostly run Windows computers, it's pretty maddening. I do love how the graphics show you a depiction of all the base stations though. Of course, a lot of this won't matter to home networks, but mostly enterprise. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com wrote: Hi! Posted a message last night to this list thinking that my Time Capsule had gone to TC heaven. Thankfully I was mistaken and some poking about the Apple support site, a look in some of the support forums and a good nights sleep has made all the difference. Somehow the settings in the TC had become corrupted and I wasn't able to change them wirelessly. Connecting the TC directly to my Imac made all the difference, was able to reset the TC to its defaults and do a total reconfiguration. Incidentally what do people think of the layout of the new Airport utility? It looked rather strange at first but having used it a lot now smile, well I'm used to the layout and its less cluttered than the previous versions had been. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from
Re: iMac: first impressions
Hi Dane, Thunderbolt is Apple's next-generation I/O Technology. It works with high-resolution displays and high-performance devices through a single port on the back of the iMac. MacBook Pros, MacBook Airs and even Mac Minis have these now. It has a connection of 10GB/S both ways, but you'll never see it measure exactly that when using a hard drive using this port and using a utility to measure read/write speeds. I've only had one Thunderbolt drive, and it was actually awesome, but a friend has it now. Also, I don't think a lot of devices support it yet. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 16, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com wrote: What's Thunderbolt? On 16/03/2012, at 11:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, The iMacs are 17.75 inches tall, have a width of 20.8 inches, depth of 7.42 inches and weigh 20.5 pounds. You can still get the iMacs with 21.5 inch screens too. Of course, the 27 inch is slightly bigger in width and depth, and even height. In which position this is I'm not quite sure, but that's what the specs on my papers say for the 21.5 inch. The iMacs come with 4 USBs, Thunderbolt and Firewire 800. Right now you get the Apple Wireless Keyboards and the Magic Mouse. They both worked out of the box in my case, so all I had to do was switch them on and they were already ready to use. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 16, 2012, at 1:26 AM, Dane Trethowan d.tretho...@me.com wrote: Thanks for this, good to know that my 5 year old Mac doesn't literally sound any different from yours smile. The built-in speakers are excellent as you say, the best built-in speaker sound I too have heard from a computer though I don't tend to use them for music if I can help it, I use a set of Altec Lansing speakers connected to an Airport Express which iTunes can access through Airplay or I can have other applications access the speakers through airfoil. I haven't seen a modern-day Imac so I only have other people's word to go on with what I'm about to say. I believe that the Imac machine of today is far thinner than my model, i just ask the question why does it have to be so thin? My model is in itself less than half an inch thick, probably closer to a third of an inch. My Imac has a 20 inch screen, did you end up getting the 27 inch screen? I think that's the only size you can get now. When I bought my Imac I got a USB keyboard and mouse set, I think you get a Bluetooth keyboard and a Magic Mouse, the keyboard can be used okay but I don't think the Magic Mouse is compatible with Voiceover in any way so you may wish to get the Magic Trackpad at some time to enhance your Voiceover experience. My Imac model has 3 USB ports, 1 Firewire port and 1 Firewire 8 port, have they done away with the Firewire ports in the later models? And finally, I think the modern Imac comes standard with an Intel Quad Core Processor, my model just uses an Intel II Duo Core running at 2.4GHZ On 16/03/2012, at 11:03 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I just got my imac two days ago. So far, I really like it, it seems a lot faster than all of the other macs I have, (the white macbook, macbook air, and mac mini). I got it because I need to work with protools for college, and protools works best on imacs. Also, the speakers on the imac are absolutely incredible, I've never heard such good sounding built-in speakers on any computer. I just thought I'd share my first impressions of my new imac. Courtney Sent from my macbook air --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options
Re: the new ios
Hi, Yes, this is correct. This particular focus issue has been throughout betas of iOS 5.1 builds, also plaguing every one of them for the most part. It still has not been resolved, as you can tell. I'd recommend that when you unlock the phone, wait just a second before moving to another icon. If you don't, it'll sometimes activate the icon which quickly gains focus prior to the iOS device moving to the original focused element. This bug used to be a lot more prevalent, however, so it's hopefully not as annoying anymore. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:18 AM, michael weaver wrote: i have just upgraded my i-phone to the latest ios version. when i unlock my phone it says phone, messages when i am sure that in the earlier releases it just says messages when the phone is unlocked. am i supposed to have the phone read two items when i unlock the phone? i thought it might have had something to do with a memory problem after upgrading to the new ios. i cleared the app switcher and restarted my phone but i still get this issue. also i noticed that when i upgraded the ios, it beeped and said rebooting and just hung so i had to connect my phone to the mac before it got past the rebooting point as tripple tapping the home key and touching the screen, the i-phone didn't responde which is why i had to unplug the phone from the wall and connect it to my macbook. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: new ipad
Hi, Just to correct you here. Yes, Apple does allow it, and yes they do exist, but experimentally so. However, the companies haven't made it into a regular keyboard such as the ones you can set under Keyboard preferences in Settings, which is also possible to do without any particular access to any source code. You don't need any low-level access in iOS to do this, so if the company can make it a workable solution, it's perfectly able to be worthwhile. I admit it'd be interesting to try, but it wouldn't make me faster. Even so, though, the fact it is a small demand makes Apple less likely to do it. Most companies probably wouldn't go for small-demand features, at least, not often I'd think. Regards, Nicolai On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn wrote: That is not a big demand! Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard. There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow access to that level of the source code. There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have never typed on a computer keyboard. Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard. Glenn - Original Message - From: Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: new ipad And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request? I'll go you one better. How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application? After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise? My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access technology people to worry about accessibility. And ironically, I suspect most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!! Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: Re: new ipad A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard. Glenn - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: Re: new ipad I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like this. People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for the blind. The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks. Thus, the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population. However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind. It is a vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to get fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers really start taking advantage of its new specs. So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have, that is fine. The new iPad may not be for you. However, don't make snap reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards accessibility and go assuming anything. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime market is for people with vision. What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's? On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote: new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel? all about colors etc stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint broke, don't fix it --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Special Characters with VoiceOver
Hi everyone, As you might know, Mac OS X has a ton of special characters built in, including the currently hugely popular Emoji. Emojis are, to be brief, Japanese emoticons or pictographs. Hundreds if not more of these exist, and an emoji keyboard can also be added to iOS which permits you to switch to it like any international keyboard layout. However, in the case of OS X, you have to drag them from the character pallet into any text field. While this can of course be done with the mouse, I haven't found a reliable way of doing this with VoiceOver so far. The characters won't show up for VoiceOver except the currently selected icon, so I'm wondering if anyone has actually found a successful way of using these. This of course does not just apply to Emojis, but any character in the CHaracter Pallet. I may just have missed the solution. I can do this with the mouse, but if VoiceOver tries to do anything with these they don't even show up anywhere. I'm hoping someone can help. Thanks! Regards, Nicolai --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Two questions for iPhone 4S owners who've used either Siri or a keyboard case to speed up text entry
Hi! Another feature worth noting is that every keyboard on the iPhone 4S has a dictate key. When you press it, you can dictate punctuation marks and so-forth as well, and simply tap the same spot when you're done dictating. Another interesting thing worth mentioning is that if you are using another language on your phone, such as Danish which does not actually contain the dictation features yet nor full-functioning Siri at all, switching to a keyboard which is capable of using dictation will make it work for you regardless of phone preferences. So, even if you are unable to switch on Siri depending on language, you are still able to use the dictation symbol if the keyboard you have switched to is capable of using it. I've personally found this very helpful whenever I do use Siri, even though I'm not impressed beyond the dictation features. Siri currently works in English, German and French as far as I know, though there are some rumors floating around that Apple might at least add Spanish in 2012, most likely more, such as Italian. Regards, Nicolai On Jan 4, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: I use the on-screen keyboard. On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi All, I have a friend who is considering switching from her Nokia smartphone to the iPhone 4S; However, she is a heavy texter and is hesitant to give up the Nokia's built-in physical keyboard. My two questions for Users of the iPhone 4S are: 1. Can you use Siri to create text messages including punctuation? If yes, have you been satisfied with your ability to text in this way? 2. Are you using a keyboard case combo with your iPhone 4S? If yes, what is the make / model, how much bulk does it add to the phone, and how well does the keyboard work for typing text messages? Okay, I realize that's technically six questions. wink. TIA, Bryan --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Marcy marcy.weinbe...@gmail.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: got the voice to work on the iphone
Hi William, Getting more than one voice is pretty pointless, at least if you plan to use them all. While you can obtain them by switching regions or even language, they are not used later on by the rotor even if they still exist on the device. Also, several hours after not being used the voice promptly erases itself, so you have to re-download it if not in use. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:05 PM, william lomas wrote: hi all I got the daniel premium voice to work on my iphone but if i want samamtha do I just change region? or can I only get daniel --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student
Hi, I tend to use LaTeX as well. I'm obtaining a Computer Science Degree, of which UML (Unified Modeling Language) plays a massive role throughout all six semesters. Also, I was kind of forced into LaTeX, but it's actually really useful when you learn how. It also works for a lot of situations, such as UML since you have plenty of tools which plug into applications such as TeXShop, the LaTeX distribution for OS X. I haven't yet managed to use the edition, and wonder how useful it is going to be during teamwork, though I suspect it won't be as useful as it seems right now. I have a lot of doubts as to the style of the plugin. LaTeX is incredibly powerful, though, plugins aside. Even with the UML plugin, you can still draw diagrams. You just can't view those made by others, which is practically essential. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks very much indeed Benjamin, I tried one or two of these frameworks under SL years ago but with no joy. I'll certainly look at this one thanks for passing it on. On 18 Dec 2011, at 16:06, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote: My preferred way to prepare presentations (and in fact most documents) is LaTex; and I know that James Austen also uses this with considerable success. Basically for those not familiar with it, you use a markup like HTML (relax people it's not the same just similar in idea) to prepare your document. FWIW you might try making slides in HTML and using a browser (perhaps in full-screen mode) to present. There are various frameworks for doing this; here's one: http://code.google.com/p/html5slides/ -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Anyone Using Tweetlist Pro for iPhone/iPad?
Hi Dane, That trick works assuming that you are arranging your followers by lists. If you are not, tab More at the bottom right, then select My profile at the top and select Following. This also applies to Followers, so choose Followers if you would like to see those. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: HI. can you find the tweet lists button? each list is then on a separate page. so go to the bottom of the screen, double tap tweet lists and you should have a list there with an action button back at the top of the screen. switch pages to see other lists. if i am not clear enough feel free to ask. Maria, JoeKarly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say I love you twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 10/12/2011 9:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yep, I know what you're talking about, but I can't seem to find what I want in those sections, can you perhaps be a bit more specific if possible? On 10/12/2011, at 9:08 PM, Maria, Joe and Karly wrote: HI. at the bottom of the screen i have tweet lists, mentions dm's etc. I normally touch the bottom of the screen to get to these or do the four finger tap at the bottom. hope this helps Maria, Joe Karly from Australia God created the sun just to say good morning to you. The moon just to say good night. And the cross to say I love you twitter bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 msn, face book email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com dj on www.powerradio104.us join me on www.tafn.org.uk On 10/12/2011 8:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! Can anyone using this app tell me how one gets to a list of people you're following? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net
Re: contacting YoruFukurou devs.
Hi Dónal You can try using yoru.fuku...@gmail.com or contact them by Twitter using @YoruFukurou I've found they're not always as responsive to either of these methods, but they usually tend to listen anyway. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: contacting YoruFukurou devs.
Hi! As far as I know, they've still got that one. Asking them a few days ago yielded the same address as I gave you for directly contacting them, so I hope you get a response. regards, Nicolai On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks Nick, I did try their twitter feed but got nothing back. Will try the gmail address. On 6 Dec 2011, at 11:01, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Dónal You can try using yoru.fuku...@gmail.com or contact them by Twitter using @YoruFukurou I've found they're not always as responsive to either of these methods, but they usually tend to listen anyway. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 6, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Anyone have a contact address? only thing I can find is their twitter feed. Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s Questions
Hi! I find that Siri tends to break a lot. Granted, it is beta, but I find that if I have to perform various different tasks very rapidly Siri breaks. Either Siri won't listen, or it just keeps searching without stopping to find answers for me. Other times though, I have no issues, but it's pretty reproducible. I don't have a lot of things I can use Siri for, though, at least not very helpful ones. I can't answer your ATT question, though I'd imagine it'd be the same here too. There should not be issues unlocking either phone, though of course, ATT may have a different policy. Regards, Nicolai On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Matthew Chao wrote: Hi, Folks! Have a few questions on the iPhone 4 series. Can the iPhone 4 (ATT branded) be unlocked? The folks there tell me no; Apple has the codes. Apple not clear on that when I tried to talk with them. For those of you who have the iPhone 4s, have you had any problems with VO and using Siri? I'd like to hear from you, as I'm thinking of buying an unlocked iPhone 4s from Apple directly. Thanks in advance. Matthew Chao --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: sim fee iPhone: be very very careful.
Hi! The reason that it's sometimes worth looking elsewhere is that you can get it cheaper, even though it's an Apple authorized reseller. That doesn't always mean that it's the price Apple puts out, as is the case with my iPhone. Apple themselves also charge more for the iPhone 4 than they do for the iPhone 4S here compared to our biggest reseller, which is amusing, but very backwards. Regards, Nicolai On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I would say, if it's available from Apple directly, there's no reason to even look anywhere else. I've been thinking about getting an unlocked iphone 4s, and I will get it from apple directly. Original message: Folks, I've been looking into purchasing an iPhone 4S sim free. This is just a friendly note of caution to be *very* careful as some companies are charging extortionate prices. I'm not breaching any rules here by saying that if one compares the prices on the Applestore, to those offered by expansys you'll see a marked difference. *this applies to uk/Irish residents in the case of the company in question, but I'm sure it's pretty universal. Avoid rip offs. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Which has greater usability/accessibility, Sound Flower or Jac oS X?
Hello James, Jac OS X is more meant for studio setups or in those cases where you need multiple inputs and outputs through aggregate devices or other methods. While I think Soundflower has similar capabilities, Soundflower needs to be accessed via the status bar which VoiceOver is unable to do with third-party icons. So, if you need to do more than what you're doing now, I'd switch to Jac OS X. Regards, Nicolai On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:02 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi folks, I am wanting to hijack system audio with Audio Hijack Pro and Amadeus Pro. I am wondering though which of the following offers greater accessibility/usability. Sound Flower or Jack oS X? Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Thanks TC :) james If you wish, you can contact me in the following ways: E-Mail:james.aus...@mac-access.net MSN: james.londons...@gmail.com Skype: saulky1984 - if you'd like to share details, please let me know who you are when you send a request. Thank you --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Growl question
Hello Paul, Programs typically register with Growl after they have launched. This means that in order to re-register them, you must close and reopen them for the files that send the registrations to act on it. Most of the time applications are smart enough to figure this out, but it's not always the case that it works. Growl usually shows all registered applications in the Applications tab in Growl preferences, but since 1.3, these are no longer reachable with VoiceOver. This is in part because Growl is no longer allowed to use status bar icons to implement preferences, and because you cannot reach these third-party status bar icons using the mouse under 10.7. I'm still not sure how high of a priority making the actual API available to VoiceOver is for Apple, but it seems like it should be pretty important given that more and more applications are making use of them. The mouse used to be a workaround, but we shouldn't have to use workarounds to do something you can do perfectly well usin g Voiceover commands with Apple's own icons. I don't think there is a paid version of Growl 1.3 you can get off of their site, but if there is now, that one probably still retains the System Preferences pane. When setting up Growl 1.3 for the first time, it asks if you wish to configure the settings. That does open the settings for Growl, but that's probably the only time you get to play with them. I'll admit that the inability to configure the settings caused me to remove it, but I should have figured the preference pane would have been removed due to App Store guidelines. If anyone's found a sneaky way around this enforced limitation, let me know. Regards, Nicolai On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello Nic, When do programs register with Growl, at program start-up or when they first try to output a notification? I am pretty sure iCal used to send Alert messages for overdue events to growl in Snow Leopard and presumably should do that also on Lion. However it does not seem to be doing so and thus I am wondering if I need to do anything in growl set-up other than set display style to speech. Do you think iCal may need to be updated to work with growl 1.3? Should I scrap growl 1.3 and install an earlier version of growl? Many thanks. Paul On 30 Oct 2011, at 17:12, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Poul, When you install Growl, try relaunching your application first. However, Growl also has many major changes under the hood, some of which concern application registration, which means that some of your applications will not register with Growl until the applications have been updated to support it. Furthermore, I wasn't even aware Safari supported Growl in the first place. Skype also has its own built-in notifications, which will essentially do the same as Growl. These are found in Skype Preferences, then select Notifications in the toolbar. Regards, Nicolai On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello All, I have just installed growl 1.3 on Lion 10.7.2 and have set the display style to speech. the only application in the growl list of applications is 1 password. I would expect at least Skype and Safari to also be in that table and I could not spot any way to add other applications to that table. What am I missing? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: favourites list in YoruFukurou
Hi! Just command-right arrow to the favorites tab. It's set as default to show, so that should do the trick for you. Keep in mind that it only loads a hundred of your favorites, though. Regards, Nicolai On Oct 30, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! How do you access your Favourites list in YoruFukurou? See, I'm still learning about what I regard as one of the best Twitter clients the planet Earth has ever known smile. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Good news!
Hi Chris, I'm a little bit curious as to why you didn't go for the iPhone 4S instead of the 4, since the 4S is the latest one. I suppose it's either because it was too much, or you just didn't need the extra specs. Anyway, have fun with your iPhone regardless. :) Regards, Nicolai On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:18 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: I am now in possession of an iPhone 4 8 GB! It is free as part as a 24 month contract, with 600 minutes, unlimited texts, the internet, all for £37 a month. I will keep you updated on how things go with it. It is charging as I speak. Registration was successful and VoiceOver has been enabled all in iTunes. My apps etc has also been synced. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: buying iPhone models
Hi! Well, CHris is United Kingdom, and I know the iPhone can be had pretty cheap on Contract over there. Unlocked it's about £600 I think, but someone managed to get it for hardly anything from Orange on contract. So, I suppose it depends on your options, too, and whether or not the carrier he has has the cheaper options. Even so, if the specs weren't necessary, I can see why he went for the 4S. Besides,if you don't think you'll eve use an 8 megapixel camera and Siri, then no. At least, I think he's UK, since he shops in Sainsbury's. I've never heard of an Australian Sainsbury's. Regards, Nicolai On Oct 29, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Dane trethowan wrote: If I may comment here. I've purchased an iPhone 4, the main reason being price, paid only $600.00 for an iPhone 4 32GB and that included various accessaries including case etc. I appreciate that the iPhone 4S it the latest model and offers more than does the actual iPhone 4 but in Australia you're looking at nearly a thousand dollars for the 32GB model so there's quite aprice difference. Its amazing how iPhone models seem to retain some value, I was offered $400.00 for the very iPhone 3GS I advertised on this list last week, a new 16GB iPhone 3GS on a pre-paid plan costs over $450.00 here and we're talking Australian dollars so I can perhaps udnerstand why Chris went for an iPhone 4. On 30/10/2011 5:06 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Chris, I'm a little bit curious as to why you didn't go for the iPhone 4S instead of the 4, since the 4S is the latest one. I suppose it's either because it was too much, or you just didn't need the extra specs. Anyway, have fun with your iPhone regardless. :) Regards, Nicolai On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:18 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: I am now in possession of an iPhone 4 8 GB! It is free as part as a 24 month contract, with 600 minutes, unlimited texts, the internet, all for £37 a month. I will keep you updated on how things go with it. It is charging as I speak. Registration was successful and VoiceOver has been enabled all in iTunes. My apps etc has also been synced. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml
Re: VoiceOver: a convenient option for the sighted?
Hi! I tend to agree with this. I've met very few employees who know about VoiceOver, but those who have have been knowledgeable in that area. I've watched Youtube videos where people deliberately go out of their way to display accessibility on iOS, and when VoiceOver is on they refer to the gestures as messed up and useless simply because they lack the ability to understand them, or even read a user manual. Amusingly enough, he tried to scroll on the screen using the sighted scrolling gesture even though his iPhone told him how to scroll using VoiceOver. Given the title, sighted users attempting to demonstrate an accessibility tool like VoiceOver gives people a bad impression of it, regardless of their disability. This is particularly true if they don't know how to properly use it. The video in question has had comments like OH god I couldn't figure out how to turn it of thx! which again makes the user manuals readily available to any user useless, simply because people panic instead of thinking rationally. Again, reviews like these are horrible because it gives the tool in question a very bad reputation, and regardless of how in-depth the video happens to me it always has an impact. That's definitely the case particularly if the user has posted trustworthy information in the past. Of course, sending in a comment yields a single word as a reply, that being SUBSCRIBE! without addressing the problem. This discussion could go on, though. Regards, Nicolai On Oct 26, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Travis Siegel wrote: And, though it's off topic, I've tried to get the media access group at wgbh to market their dvs videos to sighted folks as well, for exactly those same kinds of reasons. Watching a movie in the car while going to work? Wow, helping adhd kids concentrate on what's going on? check, helping folks keep track of the action while they're away from the set? yep. There's all kinds of things sighted folks could find to do with such a thing, but for whatever reason, they just don't seem interested. shrug I suspect vo will be similar. Sure apple mentions it in their marketing material, but how many sighted folks do you know that actually use it? I've seen posts on other apple lists where folks accidentally turned it on, and didn't know how to turn it off, and trust me, they weren't happy the computer was talking. It's all about education, and I honestly think apple has tried, but most of the apple stores I've been in don't even know about vo, and those that do haven't a clue how full featured it actually is. That's a real shame, all sorts of folks could benefit from it's use, but too many just don't ever find out about it, or of those who do, most never learn how it works. sigh I know it's human nature, but I really wish folks were better informed about it. I actually pointed out the accessibility of apple products off the shelf on a post about Steve Job's death, and though it did warant a reply by the article's author, it was merely to indicate that he'd not thought about that aspect of things. sigh --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VoiceOver: a convenient option for the sighted?
Hi Chris, I actually have a sighted classmate at university who uses VoiceOVer to read iBooks. However, I do know that iBooks also has a setting which lets you read kids books aloud, I believe, but I'm not sure if this extends to all books or simply depending on the author's permission. However, it does mean that he knows how to even navigate the phone with VoiceOver, and though he uses Navigon, he still finds it useful to tap the directions sometimes in the car. I'd definitely agree with you that VoiceOver can be a very convenient tool. Regards, Nicolai On Oct 26, 2011, at 11:14 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: Hello all. Thought I would bring this up for discussion. I had a support worker this morning who has an iPhone 4. I mentioned that it can be used by the blind and visually impaired thanks to VoiceOver. So I made them aware of where to turn on VoiceOver. But I had some ideas that came into my mind. 1. You could be reading a book, but you would rather listen to it than looking at it. 2. You could be driving. Here in the UK drivers are prohibited from looking at their mobile phones, including iPhones, while driving. So they could perhaps use VoiceOver so they can hear when a call is coming in or listen to a message they received. Of course the call would have to be made through a handsfree kit. So what do you think to the idea that VoiceOver, if made aware by the general public, could in fact be used as a convenient option for the sighted? I look forward to this discussion. Chat soon. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: downloading premium voices.
Hi Donál While it will download the premium voice, simply go into SettingsGeneralAccessibilityVoiceOver and toggle the Use compact voice switch to on. If you mainly don't want the Irish voice at all, simply go into SettingsGeneralInternationalRegion Format and select the other format that you wish to use, such as UNited States. If a voice is available for the region you select depending on the language you have, it will switch to that voice when selected and if plugged in and connected to Wi-Fi, the voice will download. Unfortunately, you don't have much control over it from here on, and you can't monitor its progress to ensure it's downloading. Apple is supposed to have fixed it so that any voice you have switched to via the language rotor regardless of default language is supposed to download, if the compact switch is set to off, but I haven't seen this work at all yet. Also, the default voice will continue to speak element types. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Sorry Chris don't follow you? On 13 Oct 2011, at 22:14, chris hallsworth wrote: Yes and change the default voice in International Settings. On 13/10/2011 21:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi All, Ok so if I've got this right, as soon as I plug my i-device into an AC power outlet and assuming it's on a WIFI network, I'm going to get a premium voice. As I may have mentioned before, the oirish one is possibly the worst example of concatenative speech synthesis I've come across in years. So, bluntly, is there a way to prevent apple's nanny-state giving me a premium voice I don't want, and using up valuable band-width I don't want to waste. Thanks. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: downloading premium voices.
Hi Donál I absolutely agree with you. It also seems that the voices download regardless of VoiceOver. My twin's iPhone suddenly spoke with a higher quality voice when I turned on VoiceOver when I helped him last night, and that voice was not available when I used it before, nor was it plugged in when I did so. You may already have the voice. It should be pretty easy to determine, since the premium Karen first of all is unable to pronounce her own name, so that's one way to find out. I do think, though, that you should be able to monitor the actual download of the voice as well. I don't always want them to download, since i'm multilingual in four languages if you don't count Dutch. I haven't determined if switching on the compact setting turns it off entirely, but I'd imagine that isn't the case since sighted users seem to get these too. Regards, Nic On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Yes Nick that has been absolutely my experience, I'm glad to see you echoing it. I've set the voice to the Australian one, I just can't determine if the HQ voice has downloaded. When I put the use compact voice on, I do hear a difference in sound. My point wasn't so much about using (or not) the irish voice, it was simply that surely I should have a say in whether it downloads or not? I mean, it's my damn iPhone isn't it? Maybe I want to keep the space taken up by the premium voice for something else? Sighted users have choices in their visual displays in terms of themeing them with wall-papers etc. Why shouldn't we as blind users have the same choices over the visual theming? That last bit is an extract of a mail I sent to apple, which yet again has been ignored. Dónal On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:31, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Donál While it will download the premium voice, simply go into SettingsGeneralAccessibilityVoiceOver and toggle the Use compact voice switch to on. If you mainly don't want the Irish voice at all, simply go into SettingsGeneralInternationalRegion Format and select the other format that you wish to use, such as UNited States. If a voice is available for the region you select depending on the language you have, it will switch to that voice when selected and if plugged in and connected to Wi-Fi, the voice will download. Unfortunately, you don't have much control over it from here on, and you can't monitor its progress to ensure it's downloading. Apple is supposed to have fixed it so that any voice you have switched to via the language rotor regardless of default language is supposed to download, if the compact switch is set to off, but I haven't seen this work at all yet. Also, the default voice will continue to speak element types. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Sorry Chris don't follow you? On 13 Oct 2011, at 22:14, chris hallsworth wrote: Yes and change the default voice in International Settings. On 13/10/2011 21:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi All, Ok so if I've got this right, as soon as I plug my i-device into an AC power outlet and assuming it's on a WIFI network, I'm going to get a premium voice. As I may have mentioned before, the oirish one is possibly the worst example of concatenative speech synthesis I've come across in years. So, bluntly, is there a way to prevent apple's nanny-state giving me a premium voice I don't want, and using up valuable band-width I don't want to waste. Thanks. Dónal Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your
Syncing to Google Contacts perhaps broken in 10.7.2
Hi everyone, I realize this may be a bit of an odd subject, but since I have an iPhone and an Android device, I wanted to run this by you guys. Firstly, what I have done is to click the Accounts tab in Preferences in Address Book, then selected ON My Mac. I then click the Account information tab, then check the GOogle checkbox and click Configure. I proceed to enter my login details after clicking Agree to Google's terms. Previously, my contacts used to update fine when this was connected, but if I check them on my Android device after clicking Sync now from the Sync status bar at the top of the screen, nothing updates on the website either. You also used to be able to see Sync details during sync and after synchronization, but I guess this broke as well. If you hold down the option key when activating a status bar icon to view additional items, extra information usually appears but all I am unable to do is open Sync Diagnostics which I'm not interested in, as OS X doesn't complain. I don't think this is a fault of Google, though, because if I update it on Android it seems to work fine. Is anyone willing to try this out please? It's kind of urgent. At first, this was very slick, as it enabled me to both back up to iCloud for iOS and Google for Android. This way, I was unable to keep contacts in Sync truly on all devices for both platforms instantly. Thank you. Regards, Nic --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Syncing to Google Contacts perhaps broken in 10.7.2
Hello Geoff, Thanks a lot for checking on this. I'll report this right away, as well as the inability to click the See More links in messages. That one's needed fixing ever since the start. Regards, Nic On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Nic, I can confirm this. I checked the option to sync Google contacts, yet nothing happened. This was two days ago in the previous release of Itunes, Lion and IOS though. Not much of a work-around, but I launched the gmail site and exported them. I googled my scenario, and saw other confirmations, but no solutions. Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 6:05 AM Subject: Syncing to Google Contacts perhaps broken in 10.7.2 Hi everyone, I realize this may be a bit of an odd subject, but since I have an iPhone and an Android device, I wanted to run this by you guys. Firstly, what I have done is to click the Accounts tab in Preferences in Address Book, then selected ON My Mac. I then click the Account information tab, then check the GOogle checkbox and click Configure. I proceed to enter my login details after clicking Agree to Google's terms. Previously, my contacts used to update fine when this was connected, but if I check them on my Android device after clicking Sync now from the Sync status bar at the top of the screen, nothing updates on the website either. You also used to be able to see Sync details during sync and after synchronization, but I guess this broke as well. If you hold down the option key when activating a status bar icon to view additional items, extra information usually appears but all I am unable to do is open Sync Diagnostics which I'm not interested in, as OS X doesn't complain. I don't think this is a fault of Google, though, because if I update it on Android it seems to work fine. Is anyone willing to try this out please? It's kind of urgent. At first, this was very slick, as it enabled me to both back up to iCloud for iOS and Google for Android. This way, I was unable to keep contacts in Sync truly on all devices for both platforms instantly. Thank you. Regards, Nic --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: voices in iOS five
Hi! As a reply to my own message, I already got this confirmed. It has not been fixed as has been thought on the list, speaking of premium voices as originally was the case. At least, that's what we ended up talking about. If you download more than one premium voice and use the language rotor to switch to it, VoiceOver still uses the compact voice for other than your default language. This also applies to the various regions, so if you want your region voice to be premium you have to switch the format. This also applies to languages, and furthermore it still appears that voice disappear if you don't use them for a time. That is originally what I mentioned, but if others are getting different result that's peculiar since I'm using the same build. Also, I've heard rumors that people think the US voice is Jill. It's Samantha, just to clear that one up. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! Did they fix it so that it knows to switch to the proper setting now? Previously, it always used to use compact when the compact setting was off. Also, you have to have the default language to the voice you wish to download. That part hasn't chained for me, so if you want to use premium voices, at least in my case compact is what you get with everything else. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: Why not try ading US English or whatever to the language rotor and changeing it that way? I think that if you do that, there's no need to mess around with the regional settings - mine switches happily between British and US English voices on IOS 5. Best wishes. Jonathan On 12/10/2011, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic Yes, this is still the case. Change regions and you get kayos here. Everything goes absolutely mental and our carrier signal goes AWOL. Lynne On 12 Oct 2011, at 21:18, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: I remember speaking with Lynne about this a few months back, and when she tried it apparently the iPhone was unable to change the setting because of the baseband. Whether this is still the case, I'm not sure, though I still can't understand why that would have to change when you switch regions. I personally have never had issues doing this. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: voices in iOS five
Hi! That's another good point. You don't really have any control of it beyond VoiceOver, and even so, it still downloads the voice whether you use Voiceover or not, and basically whether you want the voice or not. I find it strange that Apple hasn't implemented a method to disable this, or change it at least. For people such as myself, changing the region does it, but that's apparently not possible for UK iPhone users. Regards, Nic On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Chris Moore wrote: It would make more sense if Apple enables us to decide on what the default voice should be. Should i really have to listen to Daniel every time I hold in my home button to verbally interact with my phone? This does not just effect VO users, but anyone who takes advantage of voice commands, especially in the iPhone 4s. Drivers are able to select their preferred voice when listening to GPS systems such as TomTom etc. So as users become more dependant on barking instructions at their phone and listening to the default voice (which they can't change), they are going to start demanding the ability to choose what their PA should sound like. Chris On 14 Oct 2011, at 12:37, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! As a reply to my own message, I already got this confirmed. It has not been fixed as has been thought on the list, speaking of premium voices as originally was the case. At least, that's what we ended up talking about. If you download more than one premium voice and use the language rotor to switch to it, VoiceOver still uses the compact voice for other than your default language. This also applies to the various regions, so if you want your region voice to be premium you have to switch the format. This also applies to languages, and furthermore it still appears that voice disappear if you don't use them for a time. That is originally what I mentioned, but if others are getting different result that's peculiar since I'm using the same build. Also, I've heard rumors that people think the US voice is Jill. It's Samantha, just to clear that one up. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! Did they fix it so that it knows to switch to the proper setting now? Previously, it always used to use compact when the compact setting was off. Also, you have to have the default language to the voice you wish to download. That part hasn't chained for me, so if you want to use premium voices, at least in my case compact is what you get with everything else. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Jonathan Tyrer wrote: Why not try ading US English or whatever to the language rotor and changeing it that way? I think that if you do that, there's no need to mess around with the regional settings - mine switches happily between British and US English voices on IOS 5. Best wishes. Jonathan On 12/10/2011, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith ly...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Nic Yes, this is still the case. Change regions and you get kayos here. Everything goes absolutely mental and our carrier signal goes AWOL. Lynne On 12 Oct 2011, at 21:18, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: I remember speaking with Lynne about this a few months back, and when she tried it apparently the iPhone was unable to change the setting because of the baseband. Whether this is still the case, I'm not sure, though I still can't understand why that would have to change when you switch regions. I personally have never had issues doing this. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically
Re: IOS5, I Messaging and Twitter
Hi! Yes, you have to use a country code as with regular messages. Otherwise, it assumes that the number exists within your current country and who knows who you're sending to then? Regards, Nic On Oct 14, 2011, at 5:42 PM, chris hallsworth wrote: Not sure but if this is the case you can always use an e-mail address. On 14/10/2011 16:18, Shannon Dyer wrote: I assume, if using IMessage with someone in another country, you'd need to have all necessary country codes. Is this correct? Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote: iMessaging works regardless of connection or location, so long as devices running iOS 5 are involved. As for your second I must try the new Twitter integration. Will report back. I use South African English and she is awesome in terms of clarity. She sounds a bit like sarina, excuse spelling, on iOS 4. On 14/10/2011 14:41, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! I've just updated my Ipad to IOS5 - No hurry was theresmile - and I have a couple of questions regarding the Imessage and Twitter apps. I notice with Imessage you can send messages between Iphones and Ipads so is this network dependent? I mean do the IOS devices have to be on a single say wi-fi network or can I send a Message using Imessage to another list member who owns an IOS device anywhere in the world. I notice in the Settings panel there are settings for Twitter, how does this work, is this a separate app or something? And now an observation, I'm using Karen Compact as my voice and its sounding better than I thought it would so I won't be bothering to upgrade to the better quality Karen voice, I'm given to understand that this voice at times can become choppy? Well regardless of whether this statement is true or false, I'd imagine I'd have more space for other content if I didn't bother downloading the extra voice and Karen Compact? Well she don't sound too badsmile. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access
Re: My iMessage contact
Hi Lynne, This is iOS related and is a new feature which potentially lets you send free texts from an iPod Touch, iPad or iPhone on Wi-Fi. If you have 3G and flatrate, there is also supposed to be no charge. It's pretty slick. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: Hello Chris Is this Mac or iOS related? Lynne On 13 Oct 2011, at 09:51, chris hallsworth wrote: • Please iMessage me at challswor...@sky.com. Realy want to get this up and running! Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: VO Query
Hi! He meant VO-F2. On an American keyboard, if you accidentally hold down the shift key while hitting 2, you make the @ sign. Regards, Nic On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Could somebody please enlighten me as to where on my keyboard I may locate the Vo-F@ key? I don't recall ever seeing such a key. This key was referenced in a reply to a message in response to Nic's recent post. ;-) Gordon Thank you. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it?
Hi! You also have to consider that these are only example phrases. I highly doubt it is only limited to these sayings, even if you change the phrasing a little bit. The article also pointed this out. Even so, if it can't do what you want, chances are it may be able to in the future. I'm personally a little excited by this feature, but I doubt I'd personally be using it much since old habits die hard. Regards, Nic On Oct 8, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I did not see it inthe list of commands so you sould need to open the phone and open the app manually. that does not mean it's not beeing worked on though. as they said in the vid it is beta. On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Orin wrote: As a first time iPhone user with Sprint, I'm looking forward to the 4S. I have to admit, I'm also interested in Siri as well. I wonder if I could just say open Heytel or something and it'd just open the app for me rather than unlocking the phone, navigating to the page, etc. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Oct 8, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: There is a pretty decent iPhone OCR app called Prizmo , which I've been using with marginal success on my 3GS. I wouldn't necessarily write checks against a balance shown in my Prizmo result, but often obtain understandable text. I'm no camera buff, but assume that augmentation of the capacity from 3MP to 8MP and addition of the flash will dramatically improve my OCR results. More over, pages should be recognized more quickly since this app is using on board resources rather than the cloud, hence the faster processor will be a factor. This is without mentioning the 60% increase in my battery life and hopefully the other party will stop hearing the call waiting signal and voiceOver output (even when spoken through the headphones). To reiterate, I'm really looking forward to the 4S :)!! Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:18 PM Subject: Re: is the iPhone 4s worth it? hope we do in general get a good OCR program though otherwise how can a camera ne worth it for blind users? On Oct 8, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: Absolutely, Jeff. This is exactly why we are getting the negativity. This is what happens when rumors run amuck and people buy into them. I ordered my 4S without reservations or any apprehensions. The camera, Siri and the better processor are simply worth the money to me. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@mac-access.net On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I'm very puzzled by a lot of the negative reaction to the 4S and suspect that many who are now mashing their teeth would have been singing Apple's praises had they announced an identical device, but instead named it the iPhone 5?!?! Frankly the specs mostly conform to the iPhone 5 roomers when these very people were counting down the days to Apple's iPhone 5 unveiling, and couldn't wait to get their hands on one. It wasn't anticipated that this model would add LTE support, and it didn't. Perhaps my perspective is different since I have a 3GS and am upgrade eligible, but I preordered my 64 GB 4S as soon as it was possible at ohh Dark hundred Friday morning and am anxiously awaiting its arrival!! If I already had a 4 and was not yet eligible for a carrier subsidized upgrade, I suspect I would have still been tempted by the 4S improvements, but probably would not have taken the leap. The following article entitled why the iPhone 4S critics are wrong, wrong, wrong presents an interesting counter argument to the source sited below: http://blogs.computerworld.com/19049/why_the_iphone_4s_critics_are_wrong_wrong_wrong Best regards, Geoff - Original Message - From: william lomas To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:39 AM Subject: is the iPhone 4s worth it? http://www.appolicious.com/tech/articles/9709-is-the-iphone-4s-worth-buying --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply
Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S
Hi !From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding down the play/pause button would trigger Voice Control. That functionality isn't going to be stripped out, so when that voice assistant launches, you can use it for the very same. Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still run fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well stick with what you have. Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a bit generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device with reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing battery consumption. In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially buy the phone from any country. Regards, Nic On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote: hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to upgrade from the 4 if they have one? to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will make battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go buy and an eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it. THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend more money just to ge that? all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year my upgrade is due next year not this. if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a button and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road that's great but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a button and speak then put phone away and continue on route it is silly but i do want a faster way to type as texting take forever in my view on an ios device, but what are peoples thoughts? maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple need to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend money on a phone that hardly offers anything new? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: twitter
Hi! You can also get YoruFukurou off of the App Store. http://itunes.apple.com/dk/app/yorufukurou/id428834068?mt=12 Additionally, here's the link to the application from their website. http://aki-null.net/yf/YoruFukurou_SL.zip This is the same as distributed on the App Store. Regards, Nic On Oct 5, 2011, at 3:21 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi i use yaroo it is a good cliant and it updates instantly just type it in to google it si called yaroo figuroo. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: unatteneded windows installations
Hi! You can use unattended installations just fine, as long as you tell it to use the right partition. The partition will always be named Bootcamp, so running the Automated Installation Kit won't be an issue at all if you configure the right parameters in advance. Regards, Nic On Sep 3, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You might be able to do it if you memorize the keystrokes, bt that's risky. A much better option is to use vmware fusion, this will allow you to install windows without sighted help. I did this with windows 7 a few weeks ago and it works great. On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, joe quinn wrote: anyone found an easy way to independently install windows using bootcamp? i'm not dragging the rents in here thank you. :) or, is it even possible to do an unattended install of windows using bootcamp? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: unatteneded windows installations
Hi, Nope! Some email clients can't deal with security certificates, but here is what I said unencrypted. Hi! You can use unattended installations just fine, as long as you tell it to use the right partition. The partition will always be named Bootcamp, so running the Automated Installation Kit won't be an issue at all if you configure the right parameters in advance. Regards, Nic On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:17 PM, joe quinn wrote: was this a blank message? :) - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:18 PM Subject: Re: unatteneded windows installations --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: use my macbook pro as an access point?
Hello Donál This is quite easy to do. Simply click Sharing from within System preferences, then move down to Internet sharing within the Services table. When that is done, VO-right away from the table until you reach the Share my connection from pop up button then select the port you wish to use. In this case, this would be Ethernet. Vo-right to the Ports table, then select the check boxes that apply. In this case, this is Wi-Fi. Then, move left again to the Services table and selec the Internet sharing checkbox that is already focussed in the table. That should do it for you. WHen you select to share the Ethernet connection in the pop up, the Ports table changes to reflect the change and you can set a password when you select Wi-Fi or opt to disable that function. Regards, Nic On Aug 31, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: evening all, I'm currently in a hotel with only a wired network. Is there a way I can plug my MBP in, set it up as an access point and connect my iPad to the internet using this? Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: On-Screen Content, let's all bug Apple!
Hi Gordon, This is something that the Infovox voices do, not Apple's. In fact, if you switch to a voice by Apple, Alex or others do not interpret this wrongly. I'm guessing in some places this is another way to format the dates, and VoiceOver does not always govern how information is interpreted particularly not by other synthesizers. Regards, Nic On Aug 29, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi all You know, this really is starting to bug me. I'm talking about the way Apple insists on changing what's written on the screen to dates and things that they think should be there. How on earth is this a valid date? I say we should start a campaign to have Apple stop mucking around with on-screen content and give us what's really there, not what they think should be there. I mean, what the hell do they mean by Version the first of february two thousand and twenty-eight, as in Esther's quite legitimate post?Come on Apple, this is totally pathetic. Gordon On 28 Aug 2011, at 23:47, Esther wrote: According to the Dropbox forums, the latest beta (released two days ago), is version 1.2.28, and the Mac version can be downloaded from: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Verbosity
Hi Gordon, I agree. He sounds a bit beefier in Lion than he did on Snow Leopard. in SL, I actually quite liked him, and I still do in 10.7, but he just sounds a lot rougher to me than he used to sound. As for numbers, Apple still tries to control this. An example is that if you have a certain amount of numbers, Apple will interpret them as bar codes. An engineer even said as much, and I find this kind of wrong to assume. Regards, Nic On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi all Just taken a break from work because I wanted to post a response to Nic's message regarding verbosity of numbers. Nic, you're quite correct. I totally forgot about the iVlx pronunciation issue. I have to hold nmy hand up and say that I overlooked it totally, so I retract my earlier comments regarding the verbosity of number. Nobody is above making errors, and I certainly did that on this occasion. However, I find the Alex voice nauseating. He sounds as though he has his fingers stuck up his nose and it's interesting because I don't remember him sounding this bad in Snow Leopard. As I type I'm using the Alex voice. The inflection seems to have changed for some reason. However, I was wrong on the numbers issue, by virtue of the fact that I overlooked the iVox variable. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Verbosity
Hi Gordon, Well, the real issue is that even the speech engines try to substitute on a lot of occasions, such as abbreviations, date formats, etc. VoiceOver does not have control over this, as which substitutions are being used depends entirely on the synthesizer that you use. I like abbreviations, if the speech gets them right if there are multiple instances of the same abbreviation which means something different, however, it'd be nice to actually be able to control which ones are used based on the speech engine that you use or even let VoiceOver control this aspect. Unfortunately, where Apple has actually done the most damage is when using letters like æ, ø and å where they have replaced the pronunciation in the original Vocalizer speech engine with the Apple translation from English straight to Danish, so that ø for example becomes o with slash if translated.. The actual engine does this correctly, but Apple for some reason seemed to want to change this, and telling them how it should be is an effort in futility. I used to love ALex, but in Lion I just can't get used to him. He doesn't pronounce things that different now, but it's just the gruff tone in his voice in general that I don't like. I find his speech more flowing, but even so, the gruff tone puts me off. A friend of mine described him as a kind preacher which kind of amused me but I found myself agreeing with that statement in the end. I will say that I wish we had a lot more control over how things are spoken. While we do have a Pronunciation Editor, it does not permit you to edit abbreviations for the voices and I suppose for a good reason. it would still be nice to switch it off, or even select which ones you'd want to use even if you were unable to edit. Regards, Nic On Aug 29, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Last point first. I need to write to AssistieWare I thin, because this is a real issue that's causing confusion. Apple is definitely trying to put substitutions in there. To be fair there is a pronunciations editor But it doesn't let you change a lot of things really. Given that Apple has moved towards using third party voices, I wonder if they've given up the development of Alex. I find the voice nauseating now to be honest. I used to use it inSnow Leopard but in Lion I just couldn't tolerate him. I'd rather use Nuance Daniel, and that's saying something. Gordon On 29 Aug 2011, at 12:03, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: I agree. He sounds a bit beefier in Lion than he did on Snow Leopard. in SL, I actually quite liked him, and I still do in 10.7, but he just sounds a lot rougher to me than he used to sound. As for numbers, Apple still tries to control this. An example is that if you have a certain amount of numbers, Apple will interpret them as bar codes. An engineer even said as much, and I find this kind of wrong to assume. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Verbosity
Hi Gordon, Well, Apple's voices do have a way to string sounds together as well, and you can actually play with the phonemes and if you have the patience, get some rather impressive results. However, you cannot save these as permanent pronunciations, so they are mainly used to customize a voice for specific uses for implementation within your OS X applications. Regards, Nic On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic You've basically said it all. But, of course, my error earlier was forgetting totally about the layer of control that Infovox presents. Infovox doesn't always make things too easy as they use fonems to string together sounds. I suppose that is reasonable in a way, as it allows you to customise things pretty accurately when you get used to how they goners work. Gordon On 29 Aug 2011, at 14:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Gordon, Well, the real issue is that even the speech engines try to substitute on a lot of occasions, such as abbreviations, date formats, etc. VoiceOver does not have control over this, as which substitutions are being used depends entirely on the synthesizer that you use. I like abbreviations, if the speech gets them right if there are multiple instances of the same abbreviation which means something different, however, it'd be nice to actually be able to control which ones are used based on the speech engine that you use or even let VoiceOver control this aspect. Unfortunately, where Apple has actually done the most damage is when using letters like æ, ø and å where they have replaced the pronunciation in the original Vocalizer speech engine with the Apple translation from English straight to Danish, so that ø for example becomes o with slash if translated.. The actual engine does this correctly, but Apple for some reason seemed to want to change this, and telling them how it should be is an effort in futility. I used to love ALex, but in Lion I just can't get used to him. He doesn't pronounce things that different now, but it's just the gruff tone in his voice in general that I don't like. I find his speech more flowing, but even so, the gruff tone puts me off. A friend of mine described him as a kind preacher which kind of amused me but I found myself agreeing with that statement in the end. I will say that I wish we had a lot more control over how things are spoken. While we do have a Pronunciation Editor, it does not permit you to edit abbreviations for the voices and I suppose for a good reason. it would still be nice to switch it off, or even select which ones you'd want to use even if you were unable to edit. Regards, Nic On Aug 29, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Last point first. I need to write to AssistieWare I thin, because this is a real issue that's causing confusion. Apple is definitely trying to put substitutions in there. To be fair there is a pronunciations editor But it doesn't let you change a lot of things really. Given that Apple has moved towards using third party voices, I wonder if they've given up the development of Alex. I find the voice nauseating now to be honest. I used to use it inSnow Leopard but in Lion I just couldn't tolerate him. I'd rather use Nuance Daniel, and that's saying something. Gordon On 29 Aug 2011, at 12:03, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: I agree. He sounds a bit beefier in Lion than he did on Snow Leopard. in SL, I actually quite liked him, and I still do in 10.7, but he just sounds a lot rougher to me than he used to sound. As for numbers, Apple still tries to control this. An example is that if you have a certain amount of numbers, Apple will interpret them as bar codes. An engineer even said as much, and I find this kind of wrong to assume. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac
Re: accessible mud cliants for mac
Hi Collin, I've actually tracked down at least 15 clients for the Mac. I haven't had a chance to try all of them, but I saw a page listing them all. I had it bookmarked, but my bookmarks have become scrambled, so I'll have to dig it up. However, a simple Google Search will find it, too, if you're so inclined. Some of them are not being developed anymore, but some of them are. Atlantis is actually very accessible, however because it uses Growl, it tends to speak messages as they appear and not in any orderly fashion, especially if you use the Speech display. That is the only real downside, though this is a general downside to Growl if you do use the Speech display. Regards, Nic On Aug 19, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi all! As thought not much out there! However there was talk of Atlantis so I had a look at there page! Part of the features is support for growl but how vo friendly it is [pass] and I suppose those who have mud might like to take a look! Or someone who has tried it can give there thoughts! Well here's the link to the home page! http://www.riverdark.net/atlantis/ Colin On 19 Aug 2011, at 11:08, Ian McNamara wrote: hi yep that is something i've been looking for for a long time. Ian McNamara --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Turning on the I-Mac
Hi! Another thing that may be useful is to add System Preferences to your dock. This can be done by going to your Applications folder with Command-Shift-A, then typing the first few letters of System. Then, when you are on it, hit Command-Shift-T to add it to the Dock. Incidentally, you can also locate System preferences in the dock if it is running and not yet added permanently to the dock, then hit VO-Shift-M to bring up its contextual menu. This will display all the categories contained within System Preferences, and you can then select the Options submenu and select Keep in dock. Additionally, even if System Preferences is not running but added to the dock, selecting a category from the dock item's contextual menu (brought up with VO-Shift-M) will open that particular preference pane. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Bob Hill wrote: HI David and all, Well, let's see what we can find out. When I use VO-command-right arrow, I can move to the property I want to change. I then move with VO-Command-up arrow, or down arrow to change that particular property. To change the keyboard function key behavior, I go to system preferences by hitting the VO-m combination, finding the Apple menu, moving down until I hit system preferences, then hitting VO-spacebar on that. Then, I hit VO-Right arrow until I get to the scroll area, then interact with it by pressing shift-VO-down arrow. Then I hit VO-down arrow until I hear hardware Next, I press VO-right arrow until I hear keyboard and then interact with that by hitting VO-spacebar. Then, I VO-right arrow until I hear keyboard tab which should be selected. If not, then press VO-spacebar to select. Now keep hitting VO-right arrow until you hear the item related to function keys. This is a checkbox which needs to be checked. Just hit VO-spacebar on it if it isn't checked. Then you can close the system preferences window, and now you should be able to use those keys to get to VO utilities, and other VO functions. I'm not sure about the 2 f5 keys. Again, I hope this is helpful. Bob Hill On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, David Griffith wrote: Thanks for all the help. I am up an running now. The Mac is so much quieter than my old rattling PC it may even cause my wife to forgive how much I have spent on it. Some things are ridiculously easy. Getting online was a breeze compared to the blood sweat and tears I have had to exert on PCs over the years. There is still obviously a learning curve. A few initial queries. My I-Mac shipped with Daniel as the default voice. I think I would prefer Alex, at least for typing echo. I have gone into voice properties by pressing VO command and right arrow but I cannot change from Daniel in these properties. Any comments? I cannot get into voiceover utility so it looks like I need to change the function key setting in system preferences but I am getting a little lost in these at the moment. I am trying to dig up a podcast where I am sure that this is described in system preferences. The final oddity at the moment is that there are 2 F5 keys on my keyboard. Does anybody know why this would be the case? Thanks again for the help. Regards David Griffith -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Bob Hill Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011 13:13 To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Turning on the I-Mac Hi David, If you are facing the computer, take your left hand and reach around the back of the unit, at the bottom left corner. Maybe 3 inches from the bottom left corner you should find a round button almost flush with the back of the device. The button is concave. This is the power button. Hope that helps. Bob Hill On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:01 AM, David Griffith wrote: Dear list Sorry for this most basic of questions. I have just taken delivery of my I-Mac. I have connected the keyboard and plugged the mains but cannot feel where the power on switch is. There is a round smooth circle below the centre of the monitor but this does not depress. Touching it or holding a finger down on it does not appear to turn on the machine. Before I start trying to scan the manuals on my PC is there anybody who can simply tell me how to turn the I-Mac on? Regards David Griffith __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6378 (20110815) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware,
Re: Gifting App Store applications
Hi! Can you give Mac App Store apps from within iTunes? That's what I'm asking about, as made clear by my other message. I don't see them in there, at least. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can gift apps within iTunes itself. On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Sarah, I'm not talking about iTunes apps. I'm talking about Mac App Store. I made that pretty clear in the explanation itself. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it shouldn't. I perch aced an app for me and then I gifted it after I purchaces it for someone else afterwords. HOpe that makes sense. It should be after the buy button after you click the app's link name in the iTunes store in iTunes. Now, this is not in the mac app store. I wish it were. On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Nope, it's not there on ours. But I wonder if that appears post-purchase. Gordon On 15 Aug 2011, at 16:09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi everyone, According to Apple's Terms of COnditions, you are supposed to gift App Store applications by clicking Gift this app in the Actions popup menu. However, I only have Tell a friend and Copy Link. I've been looking around also, and several Mac sites seem to confirm that you can indeed gift App Store applications. Would anyone here mind checking if they can find this? Because, as far as I can see, I can't. Thank you. Regards, Nic--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Gifting App Store applications
Hi Chris, My apologies! I thought I'd written this to perfection, but it seems like I forgot to put the word Mac in there somehow. I actually was referring to Mac App Store application, and not iOS applications. The rest of the email still applies. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yes of course. For example, if I type Numbers into the search box, then move to the heading for iphone app, and then interact with the Numbers group you will find the actions button. The first item in the pop up menu within actions is gift this app. Chris On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:33, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! Can you give Mac App Store apps from within iTunes? That's what I'm asking about, as made clear by my other message. I don't see them in there, at least. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can gift apps within iTunes itself. On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Sarah, I'm not talking about iTunes apps. I'm talking about Mac App Store. I made that pretty clear in the explanation itself. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it shouldn't. I perch aced an app for me and then I gifted it after I purchaces it for someone else afterwords. HOpe that makes sense. It should be after the buy button after you click the app's link name in the iTunes store in iTunes. Now, this is not in the mac app store. I wish it were. On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Nope, it's not there on ours. But I wonder if that appears post-purchase. Gordon On 15 Aug 2011, at 16:09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi everyone, According to Apple's Terms of COnditions, you are supposed to gift App Store applications by clicking Gift this app in the Actions popup menu. However, I only have Tell a friend and Copy Link. I've been looking around also, and several Mac sites seem to confirm that you can indeed gift App Store applications. Would anyone here mind checking if they can find this? Because, as far as I can see, I can't. Thank you. Regards, Nic--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac
Re: Gifting App Store applications
Hi Chris, Well, some sites claim that you can indeed gift app store applications, and even the Terms of Conditions state that you can do this via the Mac App Store. So, it's kind of odd. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Actually, it is me that should apologise, you did make it clear and I still thought iOS. Sorry I have brain fog and recovering from flu. Indeed you are correct, there does not seem a way to gift apps within the Mac app store. Just noticed BBEdit is in there though, so might treat myself :) Actually I was going to gift Lion to my brother, but guess I won't be able to do that now! I will drop feedback to Apple about this. Chris On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:46, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Chris, My apologies! I thought I'd written this to perfection, but it seems like I forgot to put the word Mac in there somehow. I actually was referring to Mac App Store application, and not iOS applications. The rest of the email still applies. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yes of course. For example, if I type Numbers into the search box, then move to the heading for iphone app, and then interact with the Numbers group you will find the actions button. The first item in the pop up menu within actions is gift this app. Chris On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:33, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! Can you give Mac App Store apps from within iTunes? That's what I'm asking about, as made clear by my other message. I don't see them in there, at least. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can gift apps within iTunes itself. On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Sarah, I'm not talking about iTunes apps. I'm talking about Mac App Store. I made that pretty clear in the explanation itself. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it shouldn't. I perch aced an app for me and then I gifted it after I purchaces it for someone else afterwords. HOpe that makes sense. It should be after the buy button after you click the app's link name in the iTunes store in iTunes. Now, this is not in the mac app store. I wish it were. On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Nope, it's not there on ours. But I wonder if that appears post-purchase. Gordon On 15 Aug 2011, at 16:09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi everyone, According to Apple's Terms of COnditions, you are supposed to gift App Store applications by clicking Gift this app in the Actions popup menu. However, I only have Tell a friend and Copy Link. I've been looking around also, and several Mac sites seem to confirm that you can indeed gift App Store applications. Would anyone here mind checking if they can find this? Because, as far as I can see, I can't. Thank you. Regards, Nic--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus
Re: Gifting App Store applications
Hi! Well, try skimming through the Terms and Conditions. In the Danish terms, it mentions that you can gift applications in the Mac App Store. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi all! Just in case someone might have been wondering! It's the same in SL no gifting! I also looked through the help area and there was no mention of gifting anywhere! So it looks like [if it cannot be done] those place's saying you can gift might have the wrong impression! Colin On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:56, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Chris, Well, some sites claim that you can indeed gift app store applications, and even the Terms of Conditions state that you can do this via the Mac App Store. So, it's kind of odd. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Actually, it is me that should apologise, you did make it clear and I still thought iOS. Sorry I have brain fog and recovering from flu. Indeed you are correct, there does not seem a way to gift apps within the Mac app store. Just noticed BBEdit is in there though, so might treat myself :) Actually I was going to gift Lion to my brother, but guess I won't be able to do that now! I will drop feedback to Apple about this. Chris On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:46, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Chris, My apologies! I thought I'd written this to perfection, but it seems like I forgot to put the word Mac in there somehow. I actually was referring to Mac App Store application, and not iOS applications. The rest of the email still applies. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Yes of course. For example, if I type Numbers into the search box, then move to the heading for iphone app, and then interact with the Numbers group you will find the actions button. The first item in the pop up menu within actions is gift this app. Chris On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:33, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! Can you give Mac App Store apps from within iTunes? That's what I'm asking about, as made clear by my other message. I don't see them in there, at least. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can gift apps within iTunes itself. On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, Sarah, I'm not talking about iTunes apps. I'm talking about Mac App Store. I made that pretty clear in the explanation itself. Regards, Nic On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No it shouldn't. I perch aced an app for me and then I gifted it after I purchases it for someone else afterwords. HOpe that makes sense. It should be after the buy button after you click the app's link name in the iTunes store in iTunes. Now, this is not in the mac app store. I wish it were. On Aug 15, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Nope, it's not there on ours. But I wonder if that appears post-purchase. Gordon On 15 Aug 2011, at 16:09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi everyone, According to Apple's Terms of COnditions, you are supposed to gift App Store applications by clicking Gift this app in the Actions popup menu. However, I only have Tell a friend and Copy Link. I've been looking around also, and several Mac sites seem to confirm that you can indeed gift App Store applications. Would anyone here mind checking if they can find this? Because, as far as I can see, I can't. Thank you. Regards, Nic--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan
Re: Crucial Website
Hi! I have to admit that I did the same, using the scanner and just letting it take me on a fun ride, even though I partly knew what to upgrade. I dod go ahead and try picking machines, but I seemed to not have an issue with this. It seems to work fine here, though the labels may be a bit lengthy, but they show fine as popup buttons. I also appreciate the recommendation for this website. Even with the shipping cost, it costs a lot less to upgrade than it would to buy this from an Apple store locally. So, Gordon, I thank you for all the money I'll save. :) Regards, Nic On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:41 AM, KliphSharrie wrote: I did it just fine. The thing is it didn't let me choose my machine and model. So I just let it scan my mac and everything was fine. Granted, this was with sl, and Haven't went there since. Maybe I will to see if I have same success. Email me off list tomorrow and I'll let you know skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com Thanks. HTH Kliphton SR (twitterSkype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians On Aug 4, 2011, at 12:44 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi all Anybody managed to successfully navigate the crucial.com website using VO and Safari? I'm trying to buy some extra memory for one of our machines, (so I can't use their scanner). So I select my machine type and model. But from there nothing seems to happen when I click the memory adviser link. Thoughts? Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Optimizing Terminal with VoiceOver
Hi Gordon, Also, if you encounter the issue where information scrolls so rapidly down the screen that VoiceOver simply skips to the last information received, you can simply hit VO-H-H. This enters the command menu. Simply type s p ok and hit enter on the option, and VoiceOver will not move the cursor as text appears. While VoiceOver will not read text automatically if this option is selected, you can use the VoiceOver keys to move down the screen if you are interacting with the text. Regards, Nic On Aug 4, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Zack Have you tried interacting with the terminal window before you issue any commands? I know where you're coming from because I frequently have to have commands repeated 4 times in order to get a legible response in speech or Braille. But I sometimes find that interacting before issuing any commands helps. Gordon On 4 Aug 2011, at 17:33, Zachary Kline wrote: I was wondering about the process of optimizing Terminal usage with VoiceOver, ideally for full-screen apps. Does anybody have any suggestions for how best to do this? I am using Lion. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Optimizing Terminal with VoiceOver
Hello Sarah, No, this option does not have a default keystroke, but you can of course create one by using the Keyboard Commander. Of course, getting to it via the Command menu is pretty slick already, and if you don't want to revert the setting, you can keep it. Regards, Nic On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Interesting. I can't remember if there is a keystroke for this. I'm a keystrokes person lo! but thanks for the tip. might use this in adium. On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Nic Excellent tip, thank you very much indeed. Gordon On 4 Aug 2011, at 17:48, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Gordon, Also, if you encounter the issue where information scrolls so rapidly down the screen that VoiceOver simply skips to the last information received, you can simply hit VO-H-H. This enters the command menu. Simply type s p ok and hit enter on the option, and VoiceOver will not move the cursor as text appears. While VoiceOver will not read text automatically if this option is selected, you can use the VoiceOver keys to move down the screen if you are interacting with the text. Regards, Nic On Aug 4, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Zack Have you tried interacting with the terminal window before you issue any commands? I know where you're coming from because I frequently have to have commands repeated 4 times in order to get a legible response in speech or Braille. But I sometimes find that interacting before issuing any commands helps. Gordon On 4 Aug 2011, at 17:33, Zachary Kline wrote: I was wondering about the process of optimizing Terminal usage with VoiceOver, ideally for full-screen apps. Does anybody have any suggestions for how best to do this? I am using Lion. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Cocktail, anyone had trouble running this under Lion?
Hi Dane, Did you make sure to grab the 5.0 beta? it works fine here, but scheduling has been disabled due to it being in the beta stages. It may very well be 5.0 now, in which case I haven't received the update. Regards, Nic On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Subject line asks the question smile, I now can't get this to work. Whenever I launch the software it opens but there are no windows, menus etc. If I focus to the application and press return, it seems the application quits, has anyone else had this sort of problem? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Cocktail, anyone had trouble running this under Lion?
Hi! After using Cocktail for a few times, I got the issue Dane is experiencing. However, grabbing the file and replacing it seems to fix it again, and not exactly sure why. Regards, Nic On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I am running Onyx here which is a similar free tool, they have updated it for Lion and it works a treat. On 3 Aug 2011, at 14:25, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Dane, Did you make sure to grab the 5.0 beta? it works fine here, but scheduling has been disabled due to it being in the beta stages. It may very well be 5.0 now, in which case I haven't received the update. Regards, Nic On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Subject line asks the question smile, I now can't get this to work. Whenever I launch the software it opens but there are no windows, menus etc. If I focus to the application and press return, it seems the application quits, has anyone else had this sort of problem? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/