Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote: | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4. | | Dan OMG! I had one of those. I think it cost- like - $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars. I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used. And the first 386/25. I still have that laying around somewhere, or at least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something, maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly. Yup, them were the good ole days. I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the motherboard ourselves. And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^). -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] To Twiki Editors, Welcome to Newbie Manager and List-Members.
On March 29, 2005 09:50, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mr. Geek wrote: Having something like a newsletter would also allow people to compile their own libraries on a variety of technical topics, which can be reviewed offline at their leisure, while cutting back on some of the redundant posts to the list. Following along this line of thought, would it be possible to post the newsletters on the Twiki site for future reference, with a possibility of any user requesting those article by email at a later date? In theory, it sounds good. In practice, I suspect that the people that need it most would not read it. It would get treated like the welcome message - filed and forgotten. You might want to think about adding a mailing list just for tips. That way, the people that are interested could subscribe, and the people that for what ever reason are not interested will not have to filter out extra messages. Mikkel I sometimes think that we need a quiz that new list members must take before joining 8^). It can be frustrating to see things such as html emails and reply-to's set incorrectly (other than for gmail users, where we know it's a problem) that are addressed in the intro email. Perhaps they would actually read it and apply it if they knew they were going to get quizzed. Of course mistakes happen, but it seems that too many newbie-newbies (newbies to the newbie list 8^) start off doing exactly the things the intro mail says not to do. Of course we don't want to discourage people from joining either, so I'm not sure how well this idea would fly. Getting people to read and follow instructions is a universal problem anyway. I still remember in university exams there were instructions on the top of the exam, but inevitably one or more people would raise their hand and ask a question that was answered in the instructions. And these are allegedly the best and brightest 8^). -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] command line disappears in konsole
On March 21, 2005 02:02, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Every now and then this has happened. I open konsole and there is no [EMAIL PROTECTED], I reboot when this happens and usual appearance returns. Am I inadvertently doing something to cause this? Thanks Rosemary Just a guess, but it sounds like something in the startup script(s) is causing bash to hang (I'm assuming you're using the default bash, not some other shell). When you start konsole, it starts bash to process your commands. If you have a .bashrc file in your home directory, this gets run to initialize the shell. The default .bashrc invokes /etc/bashrc, and if you don't have a .bashrc then /etc/bashrc also gets invoked. /etc/bashrc does some initialization of its own and also invokes all the scripts in /etc/profile.d. So there's quite a bit of initialization that normally gets done every time you start a konsole. (I could have some details of the initialization incorrect or incomplete; someone more knowledgeable about it can correct me). Something in there could cause a hang, which would cause the bash prompt to never show up in the konsole. Figuring it out might require some detective work. You could try doing a ctrl-esc to see what processes are running. You might be able to see what process it's hung on. You could also try (as root) going into MCC - System - Users and Groups, double-clicking yourself, and then you can make changes to your shell setting. You could try adding a -v (without the quotes of course) to set verbose mode - this might tell you what's going on while bash is initializing. Or adding --norc --noprofile should prevent any initialization from being done, which should stop the hanging if this is the cause. I don't know if these changes will take effect until you logout and login again, though, so I'm not sure if this will help when you're experiencing the hang (and not having initializations may limit the usefulness of the shell). I've never experienced this in Linux, so I'm just guessing. May not be applicable, but I used to work on a Solaris Unix system that had path entries that were on remote mounted drives (via NFS). If there was some problem mounting the drive, the shell wasn't smart enough to detect that the drive was unavailable, it would just hang forever trying to access the drive. A ctrl-C would interrupt the initialization and allow you to get a shell, though with some of the initialization not done. But there were various bits of Solaris brain-damage that Linux doesn't seem to suffer from, so I don't know if something similar could occur. HTH -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
On March 21, 2005 10:41, Duncan Anderson wrote: ... Learning to use vi never killed anybody. ... No, it just made them wish they were dead! 8^} Vi is one of those necessary evils, because sometimes when your system is really messed up, it's one the few things that will still work, and that can save you. But I would never use it when something more sane was available. Forget to hit i and all your typing gets executed as commands. If you're a touch typist, you look back to the screen and your whole file is trashed. Nothing to do but :q! and start over. Forget to hit esc after inserting and all your commands are embedded in your file instead of being executed. Oh, and don't forget, if you're at the end of a line, you have to use a instead of i. I could go on and on. Worst Editor Ever! (in the voice of Comic Book Guy) But I don't want to restart the Editor Wars! To each his/her own. 8^} -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sympa!!! What the ....
On February 28, 2005 12:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On February 28, 2005 10:16, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: Why is Sympa requesting confirmation on every email I send? It wasn´t like that Is there anything I can do to avoid this thing? TIA Ricardo Castanho Brazil It's always done that to me, since I joined almost a year ago. Annoying, but that's the price we pay in this spam-riddled internet. It would be nice if it only verified once, then trusted you after that. But with windoze machines constantly being turned into spam-spewing zombies, I guess that wouldn't work either. I tried to create a kmail filter that would auto-reply for me, but I never got it working. The emails I generated looked legit to me, but Sympa wouldn't accept them. So I just live with the confirmations. Seems like I subbed under the wrong address, as Anne and Eric pointed out. Eric says he's fixed it for me. I'll see if this messages gets a confirmation request. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk and Nvidia don't work
On February 28, 2005 22:13, Dennis Myers wrote: Has anyone had a problem with getting the Nvidia drivers to work with the -24 kernel? I can not get an install on this and it does not give a real reason in the logs. This is the installer log print ... I've gotten the 6629 NVidia driver working fine with the -24 kernel with a GeForce FX 5200 board on my new computer. And I had the hand-patched 6111 NVidia driver (see list archives for details) working with the -12 kernel and a TNT 64 board on my old computer. But I can't get the TNT 64 board to work with the -24 kernel, with either the hand-patched 6111 or the (unpatched) 6629 NVidia driver. Either one installs fine, and X comes up fine, but any attempt to start an OpenGl program results in a Segmentation Fault. I haven't made any great effort to resolve this, just went back to the nv driver. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sympa!!! What the ....
On February 28, 2005 10:16, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: Why is Sympa requesting confirmation on every email I send? It wasn´t like that Is there anything I can do to avoid this thing? TIA Ricardo Castanho Brazil It's always done that to me, since I joined almost a year ago. Annoying, but that's the price we pay in this spam-riddled internet. It would be nice if it only verified once, then trusted you after that. But with windoze machines constantly being turned into spam-spewing zombies, I guess that wouldn't work either. I tried to create a kmail filter that would auto-reply for me, but I never got it working. The emails I generated looked legit to me, but Sympa wouldn't accept them. So I just live with the confirmations. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resumption of DSL Connection
On February 24, 2005 06:54, SOTL wrote: Hi All I have Mandrake 10.1 using an eathernet RJ45 DSL input. If I am connected to the internet and the RJ45 plug is unplugged and plugged back in I loose my Internet connect and the ability to reconnect to the internet. The only method I have found yet to restore an internet connection is to do a system upgrade or reinstall the system. Now since this is a test box with no critical data on it the only issue with that box is the inconvenience of restoration which is becoming a pain. If of course this was a box with critical data on it the issue would be more dynamic. Question is there some other method to reestablish an internet connection besides reinstallation. Note going to internet set up and reconfiguring does not produce positive results of reestablishing an internet connection. Thanks Frank There is a service in Mandrake called netplugd, which handles non-static network connections (i.e. those that are plugged and unplugged while the computer is on). The problem is that it is disabled by default, which means that network connections are only checked at boot time. I've been through enough Mdk installs now to always check this one (during the install, near the end, it says something like m of n services eelected; you can click the button to go in a review the list of services and select which ones are enabled; I always review this and make some changes over the defaults). Go into to mcc (System - Configuration - Configure Your Computer), select the System table, then the Services icon. This will give you a list of all known system services and their current status. Pressing the info button on one will give you a short description. Scroll down to netplugd. If I'm right, it will say stopped in the status column, and the on boot box will not be checked. Click the on boot check box to enable this service to be started on every boot. Then press the Start button to start it now. This should fix the problem. You can also, while you're there, go to the network service (right after netplugd), and press Stop, then press Start. This is the equivalent of the service network restart command that Kaj mentioned. If your cable is plugged in and your NIC is configured correctly, this should connect you to the network. HTH -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ntfs
On February 24, 2005 23:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Finest list in computerland, I haven't seen an ntfs write question in a year. Has the write issue been resolved? Can I safely share with an ntfs partition now? Lee Last I heard (a month or two ago), they had experimental write capability. But they recommended against using it unless you don't mind if your partition gets trashed. The problem as I understand it is that there is no published ntfs spec, so they had to reverse engineer it, and they're not confident that they've done that well enough to trust it. But you can always backup your partition first, and restore it if you trash it (dd is good for this). A newer approach is CaptiveNTFS. It relies on you having a version of Windoze that supports ntfs (NT, 2000, XP) installed on your machine (not just access to an ntfs partition). Apparently, it wraps the Windoze ntfs driver to make it into a Linux driver. So the writing should be just as reliable as it is in Windoze. I haven't tried it (haven't needed to), but I've read success stories on the linux online news. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.1 Web Server - allowing access
On February 15, 2005 09:15, Tango Echo wrote: ... Install went fine using the Higher security level. However, I am unable to ssh into the box even though the service is running. A quick look into the hosts.deny and it's set for ALL. Changes to this file only seem to be reverted back thanks to msec. Is there an elegant way to enable ssh? Perhaps thru webmin? Thanks, Tango ... Have you checked your firewall settings? That tripped me up a couple of times before I got in the habit of checking it. Enabling sshd (or the xinetd version of sshd) starts the daemon listening on the port. But if the firewall is blocking the port, nothing will get through to the daemon. And the daemon will not know that it's being blocked. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cannot launch konqueror
On February 14, 2005 06:09, Michel Leunen wrote: De: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Thanks, I've done a whole update without any result. Then I tried to uninstall and reinstall konqueror. The problem is there is no package for konqueror. It's part of the kdebase package. Reinstalling it didn't change anything. Thanks anyway Michel Oh, I didn't think of that. Trying to urpme kdebase will probably try to uninstall half the packages on your system, so that's not practical. Have you checked what you have defined for urpmi sources? I don't know if there's a command to list them, but you can see them in the file /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg. You can even edit this file as root (at the risk of breaking it of course 8^). Maybe somehow you have a source pointed at the wrong version of Mandrake. I think getting the wrong versions of packages can cause errors like the one you saw. I hate to sound like a Windoze user, but you may have to reinstall to fix it. That's what I did, because I broke so many things. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cannot launch konqueror
On February 14, 2005 12:32, Michel Leunen wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Oh, I didn't think of that. Trying to urpme kdebase will probably try to uninstall half the packages on your system, so that's not practical. Yeah, that's the case. I did it and now, my whole kde is completely unusable. It seems it's not the right way to do it. I hate to sound like a Windoze user, but you may have to reinstall to fix it. That's what I did, because I broke so many things. I have gnome and xfce still working :-) Too early to reinstall everything. Michel Okay, if you've already done an urpme kdebase, then double-check that your urpmi sources are correct (make sure you're not pointing at cooker or something like that), and do an urpmi kdebase. Theoretically, that should make all your KDE stuff usable again. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Script for burning DVD images
On February 11, 2005 00:41, David G Stevenson wrote: ... Anyway, I took a few minutes and turned it into a reusable script. I've attached it here for anyone who might find themselves in a similar situation. Maybe someday this missing feature will get added to K3b. In the meantime, enjoy. Thanks, You're welcome. A very minor contribution back to the community. DVDDEV=/dev/hdc Youl need to change this to suit as hdc is probably most used for the first hard disk on the first IDE channel of most default systems. Yeah, there's a note in the comments within the script that this needs to be set for whatever drive your burner is. That's what mine is, just because it's the first device on the second ide bus. If anyone knows a way to make this more generic, I'd be happy to apply the change. /usr/bin/growisofs -Z ${DVDDEV}=${1} \ -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty \ -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2268160 \ -use-the-force-luke=dao:2268160 \ -dvd-compat -speed=4 2268160 = this is the real tracksize in bytes, so this would need to be altered for each burn. Yeah, I was curious about those numbers, since the options are undocumented (at least in the man page). I thought they might need to change for each disk image. But I burnt three different images each of a different size, and they all seemed to work. So it's not clear to me when these numbers would need to change. Have a look at the URL posted yesterday... On Thursday 10 Feb 2005 11:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless_dvd.htm Added to the TWiki on http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DvD Anne HTH. I didn't notice this link previously. Sometimes I don't get a chance to read my email for a couple of days, then have to very quickly scan several hundred messages, so I probably scanned right over it. I'll check it out. I added another line to the script, making it version 0.2: eject ${DVDDEV} This makes it eject the disk when burning is done, providing a convenient feedback that it's done, similar to K3b (though this seems to be broken for DVDs in K3b; it only works for me with CDs). Thanks for the feedback. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 boot stalling at checking for new hardware
On February 11, 2005 05:11, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: New install Mandrake 10.1 - after first boot got welcome to first boot window. Now boot justs stops at checking for new hardware. I waited five minutes - is this long enough? If not what can I do please? Thanks in advance Rosemary I've had that problem too. If the other advice here doesn't help, boot in failsafe mode, then run the following commands: chkconfig --del harddrake reboot This will disable the boot check for new hardware. The disadvantage of course is that if you then add some new hardware, Mandrake will not see it. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cannot launch konqueror
On February 12, 2005 09:05, Michel Leunen wrote: Hi, When I want to launch konqueror as a web browser (the icon near the mandrake star in the taskbar), nothing happens. Trying to launch konqueror from a console, I got this error message: $ konqueror webbrowsing konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/kde3/khtml_kget.so: undefined symbol: _ZN13KToggleAction15setCheckedStateERK8KGuiItem What's going wrong here? Michel I ran into these types of things recently, though it was mostly my fault. I had in the past grabbed a number of useful rpms from Thac's site (http://rpm.nyvalls.se/). So I thought it would be a good idea to define him as an urpmi source. Then, when I do updates, rather than the recommended: urpmi --update --auto-select to get just the updates published by Mandrake, I do: urpmi --auto-select to the get most recent versions of all files I run (livin' on the edge 8^). Well, this ended up getting new versions of many packages from Thac, and most if not all of them were broken. When I tried to start a program from the menu, nothing would happen. From the command line I would always get an undefined symbol error similar to the one you showed above. I removed the offending urpmi source, and was fixing these one at a time, by doing an urpme to remove broken packages, and an urpmi to reinstall. But in the end, there were too many of them, and I just reinstalled Mandrake. I know it's unlikely that you made the same series of mistakes I did. But perhaps you got some broken packages from some source. You could try the following, after making sure you only have proper Mandrake urpmi sources defined: su urpmi.update -a urpme konqueror urpmi konqueror At worst, it will leave you in the same state you're in now. At best it might help. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] alternative programs
On February 10, 2005 05:48, Mohammed Badran wrote: Hello i need to know if there is an alternative program like 'autoCAD'and 'orCAD' as I couldn't find a linux version for them and I don't like to use wine to run these programs because of so much errors Thanks Mohammed There's QCad, http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html Never used it beyond starting it up in knoppix just to see what it does. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Script for burning DVD images
I ran into an interesting problem today. I have some wedding DVDs that family friends keep asking for copies of. I had been using K3b's Copy DVD tool. But I realized I could shave about 20 minutes off the time for each disk if I saved the image and reused it, instead of rereading the originals each time. I saved the images by selecting the Only create image option. But when I went to burn copies, I ran into trouble. I had assumed that K3b would create an ISO image, and that I could just do a Burn DVD Image from it. I was worried when I saw the .img file extension that K3b used, rather than the conventional .iso. I tried anyway, but the disk was unusable. Then I tried New Data DVD Project, added the image file, but same result. I couldn't find anything in the K3b help, or on google. So I went back to copying from the original. But after a successful copy, I was able to grab the actual command executed to burn the image from the Debugging Output of K3b (I wish all GUI tools would give you the command line equivalent like this, very educational). Turns out it's the growisofs command, with a number of undocumented -use-the-force-luke options. Anyway, I took a few minutes and turned it into a reusable script. I've attached it here for anyone who might find themselves in a similar situation. Maybe someday this missing feature will get added to K3b. In the meantime, enjoy. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green burn_dvd_image.sh Description: application/shellscript Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual layer DVD recommendations?
On February 8, 2005 16:25, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 08 Feb 2005 21:09, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On February 8, 2005 00:30, Anne Wilson wrote: ... I meant the Community TWiki :-) Look at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DVDDriVes. That page is a child page of http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/Hardware Compatibility, which you might also want to look at (use the tree link near the top of the page). ... Actually, that link should be: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility (without the space between Hardware and Compability) Thanks Ron - fingers in a twist again :-) Anne That's okay. I only noticed because I clicked the link and got This Wiki topic does not exist yet. I have a few entries I should make myself, but haven't gotten around to it yet. You may have noticed that I didn't do so well typing Compatibility in my reply either 8^). Know what I'd like to see? A script or wizard that would extract all known hardware info and bring up a list for you to check off worked first time, worked with tweaking (and a place to describe the tweak), or couldn't get it working, and maybe a don't know (not ideal, but it's bound to come up), then send the completed list to a database somewhere that is publicly queryable. Right now it's too much work to report all the hardware, so most people don't bother. Of course, nowadays most of the hardware just works, so it's less of an issue. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual layer DVD recommendations?
On February 8, 2005 00:30, Anne Wilson wrote: ... I meant the Community TWiki :-) Look at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DVDDriVes. That page is a child page of http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/Hardware Compatibility, which you might also want to look at (use the tree link near the top of the page). ... Actually, that link should be: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility (without the space between Hardware and Compability) -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems starting M10.1 - it freezes
On February 8, 2005 12:44, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: ... Anyway, although it was rather late and I was sleeping, I decided to install Mandrake. ... Proves that Mdk is so easy to install you can do it in your sleep! 8^} -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems starting M10.1 - it freezes
On February 8, 2005 12:44, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote: ... It loaded all Linux, and led me to a blue screen with the Mandrake logo. After that, it didn't happen anythig. It actually does not freezes, because I can move my mouse, and if I press the shut down button of my laptop, it sends the kill all signal and finishes the system correctly. Moreover, if I press Ctl+Alt+Backspace it restarts the machine. However, I never get to the logon screen. ... Is that the blue screen where it says something like Press Esc for details above a progress bar? If so, press Esc when it first comes up, and it will show you details of the boot process, so you can see exactly where it is hanging. I recently built my own pc, with a Soyo SY-KT600 DRAGON Plus v.2.0 motherboard, and had similar problems. First it was hanging on the Checking for new hardware step. Never did determine exactly why, but I just booted into failsafe, and did a: chkconfig --del harddrake to disable the new hardware check. This check is unnecessary for 99 out of 100 boots anyway, and you can shave a few seconds off your boot time by disabling it. If you ever need it, you can always do a chkconfig --add harddrake to re-enable it. Then it hung again, this time trying to bring up my Ethernet. Turned out that that the built-in nic, a Via VT6102 [Rhine II 10/100], is one of those obscure ones that requires the following line to be added to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=no (Nice double negative there!) I couldn't find any info on what exactly this means or why having the default of yes causes a hang, but it's been reported in the past with certain other nics. Again, I booted into failsafe, and used vi (a horribly primitive, ugly and painful editor, often referred to as the evil editor, but an essential command line survival tool) to edit the file. After that, it booted fine. So try to see what is causing the hang, then try a failsafe boot and see if you can fix it. Also, if it boots in failsafe, you can try the command: telinit 3 This will put it into multi-user mode, but command line only, no X. If it is the graphical configuration that's causing the hang, as Anne suspects, then this will work fine. If this fails, it's hanging on something else. And BTW, a telinit 5 will take you into regular GUI mode. HTH -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Isn't ~/.bash_profile sourced only at login ?
On January 31, 2005 16:53, RickSisler wrote: ... I'm not sure if I'm hijacking this thread, but, for my interest, could someone who does know explain what this script does/how it works? (It's the stuff in the [*] that isn't obvious to me...) Thanks, I'll take a stab at it .. This is a bash builtin called test in [ ] .. man test for more. $? is the bash pre-defined variable that reports the error value of the last command -ne 0 ] is not equal to 0 or zero, if you didn't already know, [ $? -ne 0 ] means, if the grep command fails, being not-equal to 0, so fetchmail is not running, then it will start fetchmail otherwise the grep command returns true or 0, with fetchmail running, then skips starting it again. use konqueror for info:bash to see the rest .. HTH There's also a great intro to bash scripting at: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Start page of Konqueror??
On January 20, 2005 12:28, Graham Watkins wrote: Andy Yankovich wrote: Is there a way to have a specific web site open in Konqueror whenever it starts, using KDE (GUI) only? ... Here's what I did: 1. Open the url you want as your home page (I think this technique would even allow you to have multiple urls in separate tabs, though I haven't tried it). 2. Resize the window to the size you want saved, if you don't like the default size (I found it too small for many of the web sites I visit). 3. Go to menu item Settings Save view profile webbrowsing... 4. In the dialog, ensure that Save URLs in profile is checked. Also, if you did step #2 above, ensure that Save window size in profile is checked. Don't change the default selection of the webbrowsing profile. 5. Click the Save button. The next time you open Konqueror as a web browser, you'll see the url(s) you saved, with the window size you want. You can also change the filemanagement profile to save changes to the use of konqueror as a file manager (what you get when you open the Home desktop icon). And you can create custom profiles if you want, for different purposes. It's a pretty nice piece of semi-hidden functionality. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Error retrieving (update) packages
On January 11, 2005 18:22, Dan Gordon wrote: ... Can anyone please tell me how to use the software manager to remove and re-add it and also how to re-configure it? Yes go here and follow the instructions its very easy. http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ Regards, Dan Gordon That web site has been dead for some weeks now. Try this instead: http://urpmi.borgnet.us/ Seems to do the same thing. I don't remember the club source being there before, but when I tried it, it seemed to be semi-permanently broken (that is, addmedia configures the source, but every attempt to use urpmi after that complains about it). Other than that, no problems. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Choosing a printer
On January 12, 2005 05:44, John Layt wrote: ... Short answer: HP or Epson, per your personal preference, as they have the best Linux support. Avoid Canon and Lexmark, as they have terrible support for Linux. ... Personally, I avoid Epson because of their business practices (not for technical reasons). I had a great little laser printer from them years ago, an ActionLaser 1500. Fast, reliable, good print quality, reasonably priced. But after they had sold a ton of them, they started jacking the prices of the cartridges way up. The last time I looked at buying a cartridge, the price was $250!!! The cartridges couldn't be refilled either, without damaging the printer, because they had put some of the parts that are normally separately servicable into the cartridge itself. At that point it was cheaper to buy an ink jet, so I chucked it, a perfectly good, running as good as new, laser printer, turned boat anchor. My brother, who works in the printer business, told me they had a history of this, and had left a trail of irate ex-customers. Since then, I won't touch them. So personally, I'd recommend sticking with HP. They seem to be the leader in printers for good reason (as opposed to being the leader due to unethical and anti-competitive business practices). -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
... Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, I think (I know I did) you can ingnore that rivafb warning. Don't forget to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the modprobe.preload as per the instructions on his url. Yeah, the nvidia installer doesn't check whether you have rivafb loaded, it just checks if the kernel has that module compiled. Since Mdk kernels do, it always gives that warning. When I got the warning, I checked that I wasn't using that module. Check in /etc/modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for a 2.6 kernel, or modules.conf for a 2.4 kernel), but there was no reference to it. You can also do an lsmod|grep rivafb to check that it's not currently loaded. But you don't need to bother unless you have problems running the driver, in which case this is one of the things to check. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Humorix: Windows 2003 Outperforms Red Hat
This is hilarious: http://humorix.org/articles/2005/01/red-hats/ My favourite line was ...such Linux distros as Seuss Linux (embedded in children's books) -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b not burning CDs (Mandrake 10.1 PowerPack)
On December 15, 2004 11:52, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 15 Dec 2004 18:40, Pablo Ortuzar wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2004 19:15, Pablo Ortuzar wrote: Hi, it's still me. I've just tested K3b with 5 Philips CD.RWs. Same results. There are others who know a lot more about this than I do, but a quick google suggests that you are far from alone in this problem, and k3b seems to be the app most complained about. Have you tried XCDRoast? It isn't as pretty as k3b, and you do have to run the setup as root before users can use it, but I've generally found it reliable. There are some things done easier in k3b, but that would buy you time while you troubleshoot this. Anne I believe the cd burning problems I had were actually with cdrecord. k3b is just a GUI front-end, to make it easier to set up what you want burned. It is cdrecord that does the heavy lifting, and returns the obscure error messages when something goes wrong. So make sure you've installed the latest version of cdrecord from http://www.eslrahc.com/ Also, make sure you don't have anything else running that's causing cpu or disk contention, as that can easily cause a buffer underflow, especially on older machines. Even burnfree, if you have it, doesn't seem to be all it's cracked up to be. It may prevent an audio cd from being totally destroyed by a buffer underrun, but as far as I can tell from the results, all it does is insert blank spots instead. The resulting cds are not particularly pleasant to listen to. Personally, I've never found the brand of media to make any difference at all. I even had some older cd-rws rated to a max of 4x, and k3b/cdrecord were smart enough to step down the write speed appropriately. Oh, and if the first two cds fail, you can be pretty sure the third, fourth and fifth will too :^). -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b not burning CDs (Mandrake 10.1 PowerPack)
On December 15, 2004 16:05, Pablo Ortuzar wrote: On Wednesday 15 December 2004 20:14, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: ... Sorry, but no cderecord in http://www.eslrahc.com/ K3b and XCDRoast not working -as usual! Pablo Interesting. When I was dealing with all this I was on 10.0, and there is a cdrecord available on Charles' site for 10.0: http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/cdrecord-2.01-0.a36.0.1mdk.i586.rpm But you're right, he doesn't have one for 10.1. The version of cdrecord I have installed is reported by cdrecord -v as: Cdrecord-Clone 2.01-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling. So maybe this is up to date, and Charles hasn't needed to produce a more recent one. cdrecord does have a lot of options for tweaking it (a dauntingly large number, in fact - the web page is 1,686 lines long!). I've never taken time to get familiar with them (I'm thankful for k3b saving me from that chore :^). But there may be a setting in there that could help. I've often seen recommendations to lower the recording speed. Perhaps some cdrecord guru can jump in here. I'm at the limit of my knowledge. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] digikam Sony P73 set up
On December 14, 2004 00:43, Martin Hardie wrote: Hi All I am still struggling with this digikam thing. When i set up the camera as the usb mass storage and open the window it says it is conencted but nothing appears. I hav tried this: tail -f /var/log/messages and nothing appears when i plug and unplug the usb. ... When I installed 10.1, I was checking the services, because sometimes Mdk activates some that are unnecessary (at least one of the bluetooth services as activated!), and doesn't activate some that it should. During this, I noticed that hotplug was not enabled, so I enabled it. Without hotplug, I don't believe the usb plug/unplug would work. Have you checked this? (In case you haven't, and aren't sure how, go to System - Configuration - Configure your computer, select the System tab, and then the Services icon). I haven't tried my digicam in 10.1 yet - after reading the horror stories here, I decided to wait. But I'll give it a try when I get a chance and see what happens. Under 10.0 it automagically appeared in /mnt/removable (but I had to umount before unplugging it, or my system would hang). -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mndk 10.1 official crash at startup
On December 14, 2004 17:43, Danesh Daroui wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Tuesday 14 December 2004 10:50 pm, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi all, I have a print server with mndk 10.1 official. Sometimes when I restart the server before it shows the login page it crashes and the error message is: 0Kernel panic: Fatal exception in interrupt. In interrupt handler.-not syncing. Just a wild guess... the panic message refers to an interrupt problem. I've seen plenty of past messages on this list about APIC settings causing problem, and APIC stands for the Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller. So I would try messing around with the APIC and LAPIC (Local APIC) settings, turning them off if they're on or on if they're off and see if it helps. The not syncing part of the message could also refer to a hard drive problem, since syncing is the processing of writing changed blocks to disk. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CD-burning
On December 12, 2004 21:25, RickSisler wrote: Graham Watkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: .. Hi Graham, k3b works for me, both DVD and CD's and the RPM's are from Charles. http://www.eslrahc.com/ Hope it works for ya. A couple of months ago, under 10.0 Official Download edition, I could burn data CDs, but not audio CDs. It always got 95-98% done, then failed, no matter what I did. This was using the version of K3B shipped by Mdk. Then I upgraded to the versions on Charles' web site, and it worked fine after that. So I would definitely recommend trying Charles' rpms if you haven't already. Since then, I've upgraded to a slightly newer computer, a new DVD burner, and Mdk 10.1 Official Download, and haven't had any problems at all, using the version of K3B shipped with this version of Mdk, so I haven't needed Charles' 10.1 rpms (yet). -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CD-burning - semi-hijack
On December 13, 2004 12:47, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 13 Dec 2004 18:56, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On December 12, 2004 21:25, RickSisler wrote: Graham Watkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: A couple of months ago, under 10.0 Official Download edition, I could burn data CDs, but not audio CDs. It always got 95-98% done, then failed, no matter what I did. This was using the version of K3B shipped by Mdk. Then I upgraded to the versions on Charles' web site, and it worked fine after that. So I would definitely recommend trying Charles' rpms if you haven't already. Since then, I've upgraded to a slightly newer computer, a new DVD burner, and Mdk 10.1 Official Download, and haven't had any problems at all, using the version of K3B shipped with this version of Mdk, so I haven't needed Charles' 10.1 rpms (yet). As a matter of interest, did you have any problems when changing the drive? I'm about to swap my ancient cd burner for a new dvd burner. Anne No, it couldn't have gone smoother. Just opened up the case, checked the jumpers (Dell seems to like setting all their ide devices to cable-select rather than master/slave), plugged it in, and rebooted. Mandrake recognized it, and K3B (version 0.11.17) burned to it, with no problems. The biggest problem was removing the years of accumulated dust :^). BTW, the name on the outside of the drive is WriterPlus by RetailPlus (never heard of them before, it's a Walmart special :^). Internally, according to cdrecord --scanbus, it a 'TOSHIBA ' 'ODD-DVD SD-R5272' '1030'. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
On December 10, 2004 05:40, Dennis Myers wrote: ... Also, it seems clear the 6629 driver is broken. You might want to make a note of that on your page. Thanks for the help, Done and done. Thanks for the alert. derek Not totally broken, I have been using the 6629 driver for some time now. It works well. I had to delete the older driver first however. Not sure that was the fix but UT2003 runs like a charm. As always YMMV. Interesting. I didn't have a previous nvidia driver installed (between my first and second attempts, I repartitioned my drive and reinstalled). I suspect it has to do with the video card being used. I'm using a Riva TNT2 64, with 32MB RAM. This being an older graphics card, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets the short end of the stick when it comes to support from Nvidia. I wouldn't dream of trying to run UT2003 on it. I'm not a serious gamer anyway, just need the occasional diversion :^). I'm running Mdk 10.1 Official Download edition, updated just before I installed the nvidia driver, and running the 2.6.8.1-12mdk kernel, in case any of this comes into play. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
On December 6, 2004 00:31, Derek Jennings wrote: ... Derek, I just bought a slightly newer computer (PIII-533), and it happens to have a video card that NVidia claims is supported by their latest driver, a Riva TNT2 64, so I decided to try the nvidia driver. I have been using the nv driver, which works fine except for lack of 3D acceleration (tuxkart gives me about 1 frame every 3 seconds). I downloaded the latest driver from the NVidia site. This is 1.0-6629, whereas your page refers to 1.0-6111. But I followed your instructions anyway, in case the bug you mentioned was still there. But in usr/src/nv/nv.c, it appears that PM_SAVE_STATE has already been changed to PM_SUSPEND_MEM (I can find the latter string but not the former), so I guess the bug is fixed. It compiled and installed without any errors. Only a warning about the kernel being built with rivafb as a module, and that this module conflicts with Thanks for that info Ron. I'll retire that page now the info is out of date. derek Hmm.. I tried out the new 6629 version of the Nvidia driver today. It compiles OK, but when it starts the splash screen does not go away. I had to revert to the 6111 driver again. derek Derek, I reverted to the 6111 driver, applied your patch, followed your instructions, and it worked like a charm this time. I can finally play tuxkart and tuxracer (Woohoo!) I noticed that your nvidia page is still retired (fortunately, I had printed it out previously). Seems like it's still needed, so perhaps you can pull it out of retirement. Also, it seems clear the 6629 driver is broken. You might want to make a note of that on your page. Thanks for the help, -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
On December 6, 2004 00:31, Derek Jennings wrote: ... Hmm.. I tried out the new 6629 version of the Nvidia driver today. It compiles OK, but when it starts the splash screen does not go away. I had to revert to the 6111 driver again. derek Okay, that's the same problem I had. It seemed to compile okay, I double-checked that I had the right kernel source and all those types of gotchas that have been discussed previously on this list. It even seemed to start okay, based on the X log - no errors, and the only warnings were about unsupported video modes. I even tried starx -- -log-verbose 5, and still didn't see anything indicating a problem. But I never got past the splash screen either. I thought I had done something wrong, but if you're getting the same problem, I'll revert to 6111 and apply your patch. Thanks, -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
I sent this last night, but sympa never sent me a confirmation, so here it is again... -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: December 5, 2004 23:00 From: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On December 4, 2004 14:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? --Angus I just did a re-install recently (had to resize some partitions). You have to choose Custom partitioning (or something like that, not sure I have the exact wording). From there you create each partition, set the size and choose the type. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) --- -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
On December 3, 2004 03:09, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 03 December 2004 09:30, you wrote: ... I have a page on installing the nvidia driver here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html At the moment there is a bug in the Nvidia driver which requires you to modify it before it works with Mandrake 10.1 I think this bug is still present. I am sure someone will correct me if it is no longer around. Good luck derek ... Derek, I just bought a slightly newer computer (PIII-533), and it happens to have a video card that NVidia claims is supported by their latest driver, a Riva TNT2 64, so I decided to try the nvidia driver. I have been using the nv driver, which works fine except for lack of 3D acceleration (tuxkart gives me about 1 frame every 3 seconds). I downloaded the latest driver from the NVidia site. This is 1.0-6629, whereas your page refers to 1.0-6111. But I followed your instructions anyway, in case the bug you mentioned was still there. But in usr/src/nv/nv.c, it appears that PM_SAVE_STATE has already been changed to PM_SUSPEND_MEM (I can find the latter string but not the former), so I guess the bug is fixed. It compiled and installed without any errors (only a warning about the rivafb module, but I'm not loading that, so it shouldn't be a problem). It doesn't start properly for me, but I'll start a separate thread about this (don't want to be accused of highjacking :^). I just wanted to mention the bug fix. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
On December 3, 2004 03:09, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 03 December 2004 09:30, you wrote: ... I have a page on installing the nvidia driver here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html At the moment there is a bug in the Nvidia driver which requires you to modify it before it works with Mandrake 10.1 I think this bug is still present. I am sure someone will correct me if it is no longer around. Good luck derek ... Derek, I just bought a slightly newer computer (PIII-533), and it happens to have a video card that NVidia claims is supported by their latest driver, a Riva TNT2 64, so I decided to try the nvidia driver. I have been using the nv driver, which works fine except for lack of 3D acceleration (tuxkart gives me about 1 frame every 3 seconds). I downloaded the latest driver from the NVidia site. This is 1.0-6629, whereas your page refers to 1.0-6111. But I followed your instructions anyway, in case the bug you mentioned was still there. But in usr/src/nv/nv.c, it appears that PM_SAVE_STATE has already been changed to PM_SUSPEND_MEM (I can find the latter string but not the former), so I guess the bug is fixed. It compiled and installed without any errors. Only a warning about the kernel being built with rivafb as a module, and that this module conflicts with -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lying BIOSes and Linux install problems
Just read an interesting article: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/18/2012237 It describes the dmidecode tool, and the fact that the info provided by BIOSes is not reliable. What caught my attention was the mention of Red Hat 5 installing fine, but Red Hat 6 having a problem that was eventually traced to the BIOS lying about supporting APM. This reminded me of the periodic discussions here on install problems that are fixed by specifying various combinations of NOAPIC, NOLAPIC and NOACPI. Perhaps some of the people who have had this problem could run dmidecode (you have to be root to do so; no command line arguments needed) and see what it reports. I'm curious. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
On November 22, 2004 15:38, Lanman wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: ... Just a wild guess, but it sounds like there might be something in the BIOS or the drive (or something to do with the BIOS/motherboard/drive combination) that's preventing writing to the MBR. Perhaps something intended to prevent boot sector viruses (someone with the Windoze only mindset might have decided that you don't need to ever change the MBR; the same we know best mindset that keeps them from letting you turn off the abs brakes or the air bags in your car, and keeps pilots from taking evasive action in fly-by-wire planes). Try looking for an MBR write protect BIOS setting or drive jumper. Maybe even a motherboard jumper. Or maybe it has some of the new DRM (Denial of your Right to Modify) technology from M$. You might have to go to Redmond on bended knee and kiss Gates' ring for permission to install non-M$ software. Google Trustworthy Computing for details. Ron, Nice try, but I don't DO Windows here at my shop except for clients who are emotionally dependant or otherwise addicted to a lack of imagination. I didn't mean to imply that you would ever dirty your hands with Windoze :^). I just mean that many (most?) hardware manufacturers are so smitten with/cowed by/beholden to M$ that they refuse to even acknowledge the existence of real operating systems such as Linux, and actively participate in the interference with said operating systems. Winmodems are an obvious example of this. In fact, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was Asus that was in the news recently for breaking the ethernet on their motherboards in a way that makes it only work with Windoze but not with Linux, and responding to complaints with we don't support Linux on our motherboards. The whole Trustworthy Computing initiative is an attempt by M$ and the cooperative hardware manufacturers to make it both illegal and technically impossible to run any OS other than Windoze. They are planning to build strong encryption into hard drives, cd drives, etc., with M$ holding the private keys, to prevent the booting of any other OS. With the DMCA, it will be a criminal act in the US, earning you jail time, to make any attempt to circumvent these controls. Sounds very paranoid and 1984'ish, but it's true. Of course, given their track record building new versions of Windoze, we might never see this in our lifetimes :^). Speaking of Windows, my new HP ZD7000 laptop (for example),was quickly de-loused using Mandrake 10.1 and except for the typical Winmodem uselessness and a laptop that sucks battery power (due to the Intel P4-3.2Ghz CPU and 17 display) faster than the TGV in France, it's been sweet. Ya gotta love this stuff. I'd rather go without a modem than run Windows. Couldn't agree more. My employer still forces me to work on Windoze, but is sluggishly moving toward Linux desktops (lots of Linux servers). And I had to hold my nose and set up a dual boot of Win98 on one machine, to run one obscure Windoze only app (don't ask), but I unplug the ethernet cable before I boot into it, and I don't allow any new software to be installed on it. I'm going to check the owners manual for the motherboard to see if there is a write protect jumper but there's definitely nothing in the BIOS that mentions a boot virus protection option. Only one to allow automatic BIOS Updates and I tried that both on and off to see if it was responsible. Either it's a jumper, it was never there in the first place or Asus forgot to include it in subsequent BIOS updates. As previously mentioned, I am keeping a large hammer nearby in case of emergency or extreme frustration. I can't remember who said this, but if it sticks, force it; if it breaks, it needed fixing anyway. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
On November 20, 2004 08:02, Lanman wrote: ... But the fact that something is preventing me from writing to the MBR has me very curious too. This is the first time I've ever seen this at all in about 10 years, and re-doing the BIOS would usually kill any TSR or other virus embedded onto the motherboard. ... If anyone has another idea, please keep them coming. I'll check in once in a while from the jobsite to see what's what (IMAP is a wonderful thing!), since I don't go anywhere without Mr. Laptop! Adios Amigos! Buenos Dias! Just a wild guess, but it sounds like there might be something in the BIOS or the drive (or something to do with the BIOS/motherboard/drive combination) that's preventing writing to the MBR. Perhaps something intended to prevent boot sector viruses (someone with the Windoze only mindset might have decided that you don't need to ever change the MBR; the same we know best mindset that keeps them from letting you turn off the abs brakes or the air bags in your car, and keeps pilots from taking evasive action in fly-by-wire planes). Try looking for an MBR write protect BIOS setting or drive jumper. Maybe even a motherboard jumper. Or maybe it has some of the new DRM (Denial of your Right to Modify) technology from M$. You might have to go to Redmond on bended knee and kiss Gates' ring for permission to install non-M$ software. Google Trustworthy Computing for details. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM
On November 19, 2004 13:29, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several times and googled for the answer. is there anybody out there who made java vm work? Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6 Regards vegard I haven't finished installing it myself, so I can't vouch for it, but try Blackdown Java: http://blackdown.org/ This is a Linux port of Sun's Java tools (community source, not open source, unfortunately; there doesn't seem to be an open source Java that has moved beyond version 1.1). They currently have 1.4.2, and working on 1.5. I saw mention of a Mozilla plugin, but again, I haven't tried it yet. HTH -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Switching between LAN and dialup
On November 17, 2004 20:33, Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Thursday 18 November 2004 03:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I have encountered this problem too. The network in my office and home is different in respect of network class and thus subnet and default gw. So, to make things easier (rather than to change the config all the times) I make 2 config files for each location (/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/sysconfig/network). ... There are a couple of apps available to handle switching between different network profiles: o NetGo: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14221 o QuickSwitch: http://muthanna.com/quickswitch I haven't tried them (haven't had the need), so I can't vouch for them handling the exact problems discussed in this thread, but they might be worth a try. From the version numbers QuickSwitch seems to be the more mature, but if you prefer kde apps, you might want to try NetGo. FWIW. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] anyone have a dwl122 working with 10.1 ppc?
On November 16, 2004 14:09, Lincoln Rutledge wrote: I have a dwl122 Dlink 802.11b usb dongle and an iBook. It's a prism2 chipset, supposed to be supported by linux wlan-ng. Does anyone have this working on Mandrake? I just installed 10.1 and it didn't automatically work, which did not surprise me. In the past I have tried building a kernel and linux-wlan-ng modules under Debian-PPC and Fedora3Test2 on PPC. I have never gotten a module to load. The Dlink works pretty well under OSX, although the driver is buggy. If no one has it working I'll go away and Let It Be... Thanks, Lincoln I have an SMC 2632W wireless pc card in my Dell Inspiron 3200 (a Pentium machine). Mandrake reports it as also using the prism2 chipset, and configures it by default to use the orinoco_cs driver. This sort of worked under Mdk 10.0 Official and 10.1 Community (only worked sometimes, and never worked with encryption enabled), and now works properly under 10.1 Official (though I haven't tried re-enabling the encryption; but then 802.11b encryption is so badly broken that it's nothing more than a false sense of security anyway; one of these days I'm going to put it on a vpn). I've never tried wireless through usb before. I would hope that the usb driver would abstract away the differences between that and pc cards, but I'm just guessing here. But try the orinoco driver (if it's available for PPC) and see if it helps. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Fwd: [newbie] A short notice to gmail users
On November 10, 2004 05:06, Anne Wilson wrote: ... There has been a long thread about this on Expert. It is agreed that it is 'unfixable' for the moment, and it was suggested that gmail users should have a sig on the lines of 'I am a gmail user and cannot turn off reply-to. Please be aware of this.' I don't suppose we would always spot it, but it could help quite a bit. Anne I wonder if the gmail users could add something to that sig with a google support email address and a note to the effect of send complaints about this bug to the following address. Perhaps if they get a flood of complaints, they'll start to make it a priority to comply with email standards (we don't need another M$ making up their own email standards whenever they want). -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] first email from new laptop w/Mdk!!!
On November 5, 2004 03:52, Angus Auld wrote: ... Also, how can I get my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1150) to power down automatically on shutdown. I now have to manually do it with my start button. :-( Besides that though, it looks good. ... Thanks a bunch for the helpful replies! Right now, I am using the standard kernel version that installs with Mdk10.0, which is what system I'm using. I am going to update to the latest kernel version this evening. I will implement the changes suggested, and report back on my progress. :-) You gotta love this list. Best regards. -- Angus When I had Mdk 10.0 Official on my Dell Inspiron 3800, I had quite a few little problems, including the power off problem you mentioned. Also my wireless card would only work on every 2nd boot, and suspend didn't work properly (it would hang if you left it suspended for more than 30 minutes). When I went to 10.1 Community, some things got better, but some got worse. Some were downright weird. When I tried to install with my wireless card in, it would ask me for my driver floppy (driver floppy? what is this, Win 95?), which I don't have, and couldn't put in anyway, because I can't connect my floppy drive and cd drive at the same time (lost the cable that allowed this). First time I've heard of a Linux install that required the use of a floppy. When I tried to install it later, it worked, but it trashed my system font (default kde font went to 6 point italic or something like that, and could not be switched back). Wireless drivers trashing fonts? That sounds way too much like Windoze! 10.1 Official seems to have gotten all that sorted out. Wireless, power off, suspend, all just work with the default install, no customization on my part. In fact, they seem to have incorporated hints I saw in older articles on Linux for Dell laptops (e.g. I noticed when I hit Fn-Suspend that it does a cardctl eject, which prevents the wireless card from causing a hang during resume; I do still recommend doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 before suspending, seems to be more reliable) Of course I haven't tried my digital camera (see earlier thread on this). And I still haven't sorted out a weird display problem, but it's not unique to Mdk (shows up under Knoppix too). I'll save it for a separate thread. Long story short, I recommend going straight to 10.1 for any Dell laptops. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] User Agent
On November 2, 2004 05:25, Bryan Phinney wrote: .. Not that they shouldn't be supporting their clients, however, support issues do tend to be less costly with a braindead (reinstall, reboot, reimage) support model OS. They should support alternates, but the reality is that they are under the same cost pressures as everyone else. You tend to support the biggest installed base and neglect the lesser installed base. Economics. Hopefully that will change. I think that quite a few sites are simpy bribed/coerced/deceived/defaulted into using the MS web server software, and it is this server that rejects non-IE access. They may not even tell the customers about this feature of their software. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 28, 2004 02:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote: ... That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs, introduces new features , but nevertheless breakes things that worked well before Cheers Kaj Haulrich. Because the rule for Linux is if it ain't broke, you're not trying hard enough :^) -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 27, 2004 10:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote: ... The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else you would like me to check for correlation? ... What went wrong with 10.1 ??? Kaj Haulrich. Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On October 27, 2004 11:32, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen the oft-repeated advice that version upgrades are not recommended). If the problem is still there, you can report a bug at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ This was a clean install of 10.1CE, and upgraded to cooker last Thursday, so that really should be exactly what you are getting with 10.1OE. I did re-use /home, which may or may not have a bearing on some doubtful areas, but I also have a raft of error messages that I've picked up from the logs - another story, and I'll talk about that later - so there are a lot of questions. Anne Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date). But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or others will pitch in here with their personal experiences (based upon which I have never even attempted a version upgrade, always a clean install). I also suspect the first response back from any bug report will be Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ordered new laptop
On October 25, 2004 15:21, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just ordered a new laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1150. Is there anyone on the list who has experience with this model and Mandrake Linux?? As best as I could determine, Dell laptops are relatively Linux compatible/friendly. Any feedback would be appreciated. Dell had a great offer on the Inspiron.free shipping, free upgrade to a 60GB harddrive, free nylon carrying case, and..a free Kodak CX 6445 digital camera! :-) Best regards. --Angus I have an old Dell Inspiron 3800. Both 10.0 Official and 10.1 Community work well on it. A few glitches, most notably with a wireless pcmcia card (got it working in 10.0, but only with encryption disabled, and with some very weird glitches, like trashing of my default system font; haven't had time to try yet with 10.1). Also, I only have 64MB memory, which is not enough to run KDE on, so it thrashes badly (and I haven't had time to investigate a more memory friendly window mangler). Strangely though, MandrakeMove does not work on it. It fails during booting (I forget the exact symptoms). It's not the cd, because I can boot it fine on a Compaq Armada M700 laptop, and a Dell Dimension XPS R400 desktop. I can also boot Knoppix on the Inspiron. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kernel update source/binary mismatch
I never got a sympa confirm request for this the first time, and it doesn't seem to have come through the list, so here it is again: This past Friday (Oct. 22) I decided it was time to update my Mdk 10.0 system, so I did the usual commands as root: # urpmi.update -a # urpmi --auto-select I noticed that one of the updates selected was kernel-source-2.6.3-19mdk. But there was no corresponding kernel-2.6.3.19mdk package. I checked in /boot and the rpm database, in case I had gotten the binary without the source in a previous update. But the latest kernel binary I have installed is kernel-2.6.3.16mdk (and that was back on Aug. 13). This is the kernel that I'm currently booting with: # uname -r 2.6.3-16mdk In case the kernel binary was a bit late arriving, I did the same urpmi commands today, and I just get Everything already installed. In case auto-select was somehow missing it, I also did this: # urpmi kernel Everything already installed Finally, I did the following: # urpmi kernel-2.6.3.19 ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/updates/ 10.0/RPMS/./kernel-2.6.3.19mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm ... And now it's downloading the new kernel binary! What's up with that? auto-select doesn't work with kernel binaries, but it does with kernel source? Shouldn't the two always be kept in sync? And why doesn't urpmi kernel find the latest version of the kernel? Why should I have to specify which version I want? Very strange. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction
On October 22, 2004 10:54, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: cervixcouch wrote: So how exactly does one safeguard against a trojan when installing an RPM? Check the signiture of the RPM, to be sure it is realy from the source you think it is. You can also look at the file list, and the scripts that are run when installing, removing, ect. I use Midnight Commander (mc) to look at what is in the RPM, and rpm --checksig rpm name to verify the RPM. urpmi also checks the signiture, and asks you about installing if it doesn't match. (Not sure what it does if they do not match when running in the auto mode.) You do have to make sure your keys are kept up to date. ... Mikkel This is interesting, given the oft-repeated advice on this list to ignore the urpmi warnings about signatures not matching and install anyway! The signature check is there for a reason, to detect tampering (by someone other than the package distributer of course, since they can tamper with it and still sign it). The only way someone other that the distributor can tamper with a package without setting off the warning is by cracking the host and obtaining the private signing key. Of course, if you don't have the correct keys installed, you get this warning for everything. This is part of the safeguard - you first have to make an explicit decision to trust the key by installing it. But if you take the lazy way out and just hit y for every signature warning, you are leaving yourself open to tampering. If you are obtaining rpms from a site other than the standard ones (for which the keys are pre-installed), in addition to checking the reputation of the distributor, you should insist on a key from them for you to install, such as the one our friendly neighbourhood Charles Edwards provides. Also insist that all the packages be signed using that key. Of course, you have to trust that the key hasn't been tampered with as well. The really paranoid among us rely on key signatures exchanged by some other channel, such as telephone, to verify a key before installing it. It's kind of like Spy vs. Spy. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Chat Client
On October 17, 2004 05:19, Lee Wiggers wrote: Hello all, I have a friend in Mexico who insists that I set up Yahoo chat. She has strange ideas sometimes. Can someone point me to a good client and clue me in on the intricacies that 12yr olds don't have problems with, but I will? And which ports do I need to expose to the universe? TIA Lee Funny you should ask. My 13yr old son insisted that he wanted yahoo messenger. I told him kopete or gaim could do what he needed, but he insists that there are things that yahoo does better. Yahoo does have a Linux client, but he was unable to find a Mandrake rpm for it (and I wasn't going to expend any time looking :^). But I had previously been explaining to him the various Linux distros, and that Mandrake was a Red Hat derivative. So he found a RH rpm (sorry, I don't know where, but it was rh9.ymessenger-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm, google probably knows where it is), and asked me if it would work. I thought it would be an interesting and mostly harmless exercise to see. So I ran it through urpmi last night, and it seemed to install correctly. It didn't add itself to the menu. I had to start it at the command line by typing ymessenger. First time through, it runs a config wizard that asks about adding it to the KDE and gnome menus and desktops, and to .xinitrc. Attempting to add to gnome crashes it, probably because I don't have gnome installed. The adding to KDE menu doesn't seem to work, and the adding to desktop creates a useless desktop icon (double clicking it just brings up the which program should I run this with? dialog), but at least it doesn't crash. I just created a desktop link to application icon myself. Once the wizard was done, it seemed to work fine, with no other config changes. Of course, I'm not firewalled, other than the NAT in my router (haven't had time, and right now a break-in to this machine would not gain anyone anything particularly valuable). -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] After locking screen password won't resolve.
On September 28, 2004 20:51, Terence Golightly wrote: List, Apologies if this is a repost, I didn't see the original. Recently I changed my user password and now when I lock the screen my password is refused. ... Just a thought. I had trouble when I first started with Mdk, until I noticed that once it's been sitting for more than a few minutes, when you type the first character of your password, it refreshes the screen and discards that character. Rather annoying, but I've gotten used to it. Type the first character, wait a few seconds, and see if the * disappears in the password field. If so, retype that first character along with the rest of the password. Or you may have mistyped your new password when you changed it. Try changing it again. If the passwd command rejects your current password, this will confirm it. Try your previous password also, as possibly the change didn't take effect. If because of a typo you don't know what your password is now, you can do the following to change it as root: su passwd youruserid This will let you set a new password without knowing the old one. Hope this helps. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice language problem
On September 27, 2004 18:53, Russell W. Behne wrote: I just tried to use OpenOffice for the first time in a long time. When I opened a .doc file OpenOffice started up in German. I prefer to use it in English, but can't find how to switch it to English. How do I do this? I just had the same problem with a fresh Mdk 10.1 install. I presume that it's the new version of OO that comes with 10.1 that is the problem. Have you installed updates since the last time you used it? Anyway, I don't have a solution yet either. I was trying to guess my way through the configuration dialogs to set it back to English, but no luck yet. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] archiving to multi volumes
On September 22, 2004 12:55, hugenots wrote: welcome newbie, can someone sugest nice script for making tar arcives with given size from given folder, presuming that data in folder is more than given volume size; that volumes must be independet form each other (no file spliting); that volume name is smart (e.g. vol1.tar; vol2.tar vol3.tar; ...) maybe I'm thinking in the wrong direction, then please enlighten me :) the idea is to make tar arcives for storing to dvd, except storing will be done once in a month, but archiving should be perfomed more or less every night. so there will be hard copy and daily backup. force, my friend, is violence! hugenots [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been thinking about the same thing. Haven't come across a tool to do it yet (though I've haven't searched all that hard). I sometimes use the following type of command to create a compressed tarball: tar cvf - . | gzip -9 tarball.tgz But of course I don't know the size of the tgz file until it's done. If it's too big, I have to rework it to fit (I'm still using CDs). I've been pondering whether there's a way, possibly in perl, to open a pipe to gzip, feed it files one at a time, and check the size each time. Of course there's complications like whether all the data has been flushed to disk when you check the size, and what to do when the last file makes it too big. If I ever get time I might see if I can cook up a perl script using existing tools to do something like this. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On September 18, 2004 15:18, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 14:02, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:57 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 18 September 2004 12:35, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 13:16, Dennis Myers wrote: Is anyone else d/ling the 10.1 community on bt? I have discs 4 and 5 very quickly but the CD1-3 torrent is very slow. At best I get 10kbs. I have checked all the settings and do not know what to do to make it d/l faster. Any suggestions? TIA for your recommendations. Doing the same and getting the same. I've got the proper ports opened up and AFAIK the configuration is correct. Similar 10.0.2 download was 80k or better on average. I don't know how to fix. LX Dont use torrent??? Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P I haven't tried bittorrent because I'v seen too many complaints like yours. Somehow its not ready for prime time. The problem with bt is just the number of others that have it running on the same torrent. It kind of works opposite to regular downloading. With a regular d/l, where everyone is hitting the same server, the more users, the slower it gets. But with bt, the more users the faster it gets. I got pretty good speed out of bt for 10.1C, but maybe it was just my timing. I left it running for a while to help out others who were downloading, but I needed the disk space, so I had to burn them and delete them. When I'm done some repartitioning, I'll put them back and restart bt. If everyone with a high speed connection leaves their bt running even after the d/l is finished, it will help out others, at a modest cost in bandwidth consumed. Even if you don't plan to use 10.1C immediately, if you have the bandwidth and the disk space, d/w with bt, and you'll help out others. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On September 14, 2004 18:17, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 14 September 2004 12:35 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote: ... urpmi rkhunter I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter gives me no package named rkhunter. I tried a search for rk and one for hunt too, in case the spelling was slightly off, but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up. Mea culpa. Since it's just a noarch script, I thought it would be available for all Mandrake versions. I didn't check. Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/med ia/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm It should work on any Mandrake version. Thanks, that worked better. It gave me a warning about the signature not matching, which worries me a little with a security app! I know others report getting this a lot, but I don't normally. But I went ahead with the install anyway. I noticed it has a --update option to get all the latest scan info, so I did that first. I don't know if this eliminates the benefits of going to 1.1.8. Pretty impressive list of things checked. It didn't find any nasties on my system, but it reported the following: * Application version scan - GnuPG 1.2.4 [ OK ] - OpenSSL 0.9.7c [ Vulnerable ] - Procmail MTA 3.22[ OK ] - ProFTPd 1.2.9[ Vulnerable ] I just updated everything on Monday (after switching to a working mirror). Any idea what's up with these vulnerability warnings? Has Mandrake not released fixed versions of these apps yet? Should I wait or install from source? I don't use these apps. Not directly anyway, but maybe something else uses them? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Red Screen of Death
I've been having a strange problem with my Mdk 10.0 Official install since last Friday. Often when it sits for a while, it goes to a dark red screen, with no text or graphics, and no mouse pointer. Also, sometimes when someone is using it, it freezes. At these times, it won't respond to ctrl-alt-F1, ctrl-alt-esc, or ctrl-alt-backspace. It also won't respond to pings from another pc on the lan. It will sometimes respond to ctrl-alt-del. Other times I have to hit the reset button. Once it reboots it's back to normal, until the next time. Before Friday, it was stable. On Friday, I was: 1. Trying to update my system, but the mirror (mirrors.secsup.org) kept telling everything was up to date, despite numerous security list announcements. I didn't resolve this until Monday, by switching mirrors. 2. Uploading some pics from my digital camera (Minolta Dimage G400) to my hard drive, something I've done before with no problems. But when I unplugged the usb cable, with konqueror still open (but not open to the mounted directory), it hung my system and forced a reset. After rebooting, it restarted konqueror on me without my asking it to (I guess I had restore previous session set). 3. I installed checkinstall, and was trying to use it to build an rpm (for qhacc). Which failed on some error I hadn't yet figured out. Something during all this seems to have borked my system. Any suggestions, short of a full re-install? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
On September 14, 2004 07:03, Lanman wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: They're a fiendish, murdering, pillaging lot, they are. Rape, murder and steal. Entire villages at that. Swindlers unlike no other. Ruffians and roughnecks; beating up old women for their pension money. Taking not only candy from babies, but embezzling Canadians out of their jelly donuts and bacon... -- stephen kuhn - proprietor Wait a sec! We've been getting hosed on our doughnuts and bacon? When did this happen? Why didn't someone send me a memo on this? GRRR! This is much more disastrous than anything else that Stephen has ever said before! Where are these Debian people? I say that all Canadians should rise up in revolt and fight back! At least they didn't try to steal our toques! Then we'd have to get really pissed! Memo to all Canadians - Let's meet at Tim Horton's to plan a strategy. I'm buying! LOL! Yeah, we need our doughnuts and bacon. It gets cold up here, and a good layer of blubber helps keep us warm! -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote: ... urpmi rkhunter I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter gives me no package named rkhunter. I tried a search for rk and one for hunt too, in case the spelling was slightly off, but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Desktop shifted up on laptop screen
I've been very happy with Mdk 10 on my desktop machine, once I got a few initial problems (e.g. sound) ironed out. In fact, none of my semi-computer-literate friends and family have had the slightest difficulty using Linux instead of Windoze for day to day tasks (email, word processing, ...), even though they've never even heard of Linux or even Unix. So I decided to take the plunge and install it on my old Dell laptop (an Inspiron 3800). The Win98 on it was thoroughly broken, and I refused to re-install it, so I backed up the few important files on there and toasted it. Actually my 13 year old son did it, with just a few pointers. Install went smoother than on my desktop! It even recognized some laptop weirdness, like the soundcard doubling as modem. Suspend even seems to work (hasn't worked on Win98 in over a year - used to hang occasionally, and the patch from M$ for this just destroyed suspend capability completely; if you closed the cover everything stayed on and the machine overheated). Just one obvious problem so far: the whole desktop is shifted up about the height of the task bar, leaving a grey line across the bottom of the screen, and chopping the top off. Anyone know how to adjust this? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake10 Community
On July 27, 2004 01:36, John Wilson wrote: ... Now if we could just do something about bittorrent. :-) ttfn John Actually, there is something we can all do about bittorrent, or at least those of us on high speed connections: leave your bittorrent client running, even after you've downloaded everything, so that other people can upload from you. I did this for a while on the Windoze machine I used to download Mandrake in the first place. But I had to keep going on a vpn for work, which got in the way, I've been meaning to start doing it on my Mandrake box, but I don't have the iso's there at the moment. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sending email from a script
On July 22, 2004 07:47, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 21 July 2004 05:54 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I don't want to run my own mail server (not at the moment). I rely on my isp for sending and receiving email. Is there a simple way to do this? Can I somehow tell kmail to do it for me? If not, can someone point me to some good instructions for configuring postfix to do what I need without interfering with email to/from my isp, and without opening up security holes in my system (e.g. an open relay). Look for and install a package called esmtp, that mirrors sendmail functionality but doesn't actually work as an MTA itself, it simply relays messages to your MTA of choice. In essence, it provides you with full sendmail compatibility for scripts but it only relays messages just as your mail client would. There are a couple of other packages that do the same thing as well but esmtp is very simply to setup and configure for what you want it to do. The only drawback is that it won't route local messages to your machine, you have to send to fully qualified email addresses because you are are relaying through an external server. IOW, you can't send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Thanks, esmtp is exactly what I needed. It would have been nice if Mandrake installed this by default. I was trying to use the mail command, but it just dies with an error that /usr/sbin/sendmail is missing. But I suppose it wouldn't work anyway without a suitable config file. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Sending email from a script
Anyone out there ever written a script to send email messages? I want to write a script that will send a message to a certain email address when called. I thought I could just use the mail program, but it relies on /usr/sbin/sendmail to actually send the message. I believe that means I have to install and configure either sendmail or postfix. Sounds like a lot of work for a simple script. I don't want to run my own mail server (not at the moment). I rely on my isp for sending and receiving email. Is there a simple way to do this? Can I somehow tell kmail to do it for me? If not, can someone point me to some good instructions for configuring postfix to do what I need without interfering with email to/from my isp, and without opening up security holes in my system (e.g. an open relay). Thanks, -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ethernet problem on ASUS motherboards
On July 15, 2004 20:06, Lanman wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I've seen some people on this list having trouble getting their network interfaces working. This may be unrelated, but FYI: http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html The moral of the story is don't buy ASUS motherboards. Interesting article Ron, but like any other situation there's always another side to the facts. I can only speak from my experience, but since 1996 I've sold over 3500 PC's and servers, and with most of those, the boards have been Asus. Anytime I've spoken to the Asus reps, they've been very helpful and even told me who to speak to at their call-center. In one case, I was asked for my advice by one of the techs about which board to use! Later that same tech called me back to confirm that he had built his personal system and loaded Mandrake 9.2 on it without a hitch. He was very grateful for my advice. In all the time I've used Asus boards, I've had two problems that weren't related to my own errors. The A7V-133 board had a bad run of Chipset cooling fans (which Asus promptly replaced via overnight courier), and the A7V8X which had the first broadcom 4401 onboard NIC, and that problem was due to the fact that a proper driver module hadn't been built into the 2.4 kernel at that point. Even their relatively new Asrock line of boards which are a low-end board haven't given me one speck of hassle with Linux. These guys in the article may be 100% right about their experience with Asus, but I'm wondering if they don't actually have a defective board and need to concentrate on replacing it. Since the P5A, through the entire lineup of A7V's, A7N266 boards, and currently the P4S800 and P4P800-MX, these boards have been amazingly rock-solid for me, and the Asus reps I've met at the trade conferences have been very honest and helpful, so either these guys just got the wrong guy at the Asus end of the phone, or I'm the luckiest SOB on the planet. Just my 0.02 cents. Lanman Well, I'm just reporting what I read. I can't really comment beyond that, not having dealt with motherboards since the '70s (pre-IBM-PC). But I noticed they said the ASUS boards used to work, and that this is only a recent change. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Favorite Linux Distro for 2004?
On June 24, 2004 15:19, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:47:38 +0300 maxxik disseminated the following: Hi ppls ! http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1135aid=2 what do you think about it ? ) dont you want to support out favorite distributive ? ) PS sorry for offtopic ... I'm not so concerned about the offtopic, but the link you posted seems to automatically enter a vote for Gentoo. Is that what happened? I went to vote and got told I had already voted. Doh! The scumbag scammed me! Just can't let your guard down, even on a friendly list like this. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] laptop won't shut down completley
On June 3, 2004 17:10, Walt Frampus wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 3077wm duel booting winxp and Mandrake 10 official. When I went to shut it down, everything did so normally. A while later, I noticed a light on the laptop was lit and realized that Mandrake rebooted again so I shut it down a second time. I checked it a while later and found the screen blank but when I hit the enter button, mandrake was still running. I had to reboot into windows (which I never use) to get the laptop to shut down. I turned off all the power controls and still have the problem. My desktop shuts down with no problem. Anyone else having this problem? Is it just a version 10 problem? I didn't have this problem with 9.2. Walt My desktop computer (an ancient Dell) won't power down properly. It goes through the whole shutdown process, but the power stays on. Worse, although I can hit the reset button to reboot, the power switch doesn't work! Apparently, it's not a real (physical) power switch, it just sends a signal to shut the power off, but Linux doesn't recognize this signal (or something like that; it worked with Windoze, so I'm just guessing here). If I want to power off, I have to actually pull the power plug! Fortunately, I don't power off very often (usually only during lightning storms or vacations), so I haven't bothered trying to fix it. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On June 1, 2004 21:56, Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to .sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh Lee Just a thought... I've had problems with other gui apps (not oo) where the gui config seemed to get out of sync with/confused about the config files. The gui config said one thing, but the behaviour was something else. When this happened, often just changing the setting to something else, applying the change, then changing it back and applying again would fix the problem. Wouldn't hurt to try. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] AMD64 and K8V Bios Issues - help!
On June 2, 2004 03:45, Rory Gleeson wrote: Hi, I've been using MDK 10.0 on my old Celeron. I just bought a new computer with the following specs: AMD64 Athlon 3000 K8V SE Deluxe ATI Radeon 9200 SE 512 DDR RAM I can't get MDK10 to do a full install. I've used these discs before without issue. It starts to install correctly. However, after partitioning (I've tried this on two HDs with the same result), it starts to install the files. During this copying period, each time it stalls, the CD stops having files retrieved and the HD stops working. It stops at a different place each time. I've tweaked the K8V Deluxe motherboard without success. I turned off USB Legacy Support (which caused me an initial hang right at the beginning the install process before the graphical install started). I also turned off ACPI and APM as an experiment. If anyone has any suggestions at all, I'd really appreciate it. I think this is a small problem that I just can't identify. This purchase was my final step in dumping XP for good, but I'm a bit glum right now. By the way, XP Pro installed fine on the box without issue after my initial MDK failures. So, once I got XP running, I then erased all the partitions, knowing an OS could load, and went back to fiddling with MDK. SuSE 9.1 Live and MandrakeMove (without LAN support) installed without issue, too. Thanks, ~Rory I could be wrong, but isn't there a different version of Mdk 10 for AMD64? I seem to recall seeing release candidate announcements for it (it's a little behind the x86 version). -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On June 2, 2004 11:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? Aren't you there already? :) Good thought. It's still better than a hot stick in the eye. Lee or a spoon? http://www.workorspoon.com/default.asp -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Boson 10 compile errors
On May 26, 2004 02:13, Kevin Ferguson wrote: Hi Guys Im using mandrake 10 CE, 2.6.3-13mdk kernel, Nividia Ge-force 2 mx 400 card, 20Ghd, scsi cd writer, DVD-drive. Ive down loaded the source for boson. ./configure, make, and make install. On the make install it fails, this is the error I get : ... I've linked ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.la /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.la at this point would I need to re-run ./configure, make, make install? Any advice appreciated Regards Kevin I just recently built boson 0.10 under 10.0 Official. Runs like a dog because I don't have a video driver with h/w acceleration support, but that's a separate issue. I ran into several version issues with autoconf and the related gnu build system programs. Mandrake installs by default ancient versions of these (2.13 of autoconf; 2.59 is the latest stable), apparently for backward compatibility with older programs. They seem to have forgotten about forward compatibility :^). If you install the latest, it actually installs a script that tries to choose the correct version, so I don't know why the don't do this in the first place. You also have to upgrade automake and aclocal. I don't remember exactly the errors I got. There was something explicit about having to upgrade autoconf, I think, but after that, and before I realized I had to separately upgrade automake and aclocal, I got a lot of weird messages. If you haven't upgraded all these, do it and see if it helps. Mine built successfully after all upgrades. Also, the various build steps weren't entirely clear to me from the web page. As I worked it out, I put them all into a script (I think for example that all the make installs have to be done after all the makes have been done). I've attached it here. Feel free to use this as you see fit. Hope this helps. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. buildsrc Description: application/shellscript Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Opera and my bank
On May 25, 2004 20:08, David B. Williams wrote: I've been down this path before and as usual I can't for the life of me remember what it was I did to fix it. So any help is appreciated. The bank that I use for my personal accounts will accept Opera as the browser just fine. The bank that I use for my business accounts will not. I moved to Opera under 9.1 because it worked with both banks. However, it didn't work just right with the business bank at first and I could get it around the error and continue anyway. I installed 10.0 and the problem is back. I have started by enabling everything, setting the id to MSIE6.0 and have java installed with a valid path. I always get the error that my sign on name or my passwork are incorrect. Any suggestions? Sometimes you just have to lie to the site about your browser identity. It's not uncommon (though improving) for a site to have javascript that instead of checking is feature x supported before using feature x, does something stupid like is browser IE or Netscape. Often if you ask to see the page source you can see the offending code. Don't know how to do this in Opera (never used it), but every other browser I've used supports this. If you see poor code like this you can ask the bank to fix it (good luck!). But at least in Mozilla and Konqueror, there's a place to configure it to send a different browser id string for specific sites. I had to do this with Konqueror for one of my credit card companies. They have the following embedded in their web page: script language=JavaScript !-- var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase(); var is_major = parseInt(navigator.appVersion); var is_nav = ((agt.indexOf('mozilla')!=-1) (agt.indexOf('spoofer')==-1) (agt.indexOf('compatible') == -1) (agt.indexOf('hotjava')==-1)); var is_nav6up = (is_nav (is_major = 5)); var is_gecko = (agt.indexOf('gecko') != -1); var is_ie= ((agt.indexOf(msie) != -1) (agt.indexOf(opera) == -1)); if (is_ie || is_nav6up || is_gecko) { //IE + Mozilla You can see from this that they will accept IE, Mozilla, Hotjava or Opera (and maybe Netscape, not sure), but not Konqueror. Once I told Konqueror to pretend it was Mozilla, I was fine. Of course, sometimes when you tell it to pretend, it then runs into something it doesn't support and gives interesting behaviour ;^}. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Colinux, run linux natively inside windows.
On May 20, 2004 00:45, frankieh wrote: Hi guys, I just found something pretty interesting.. http://www.colinux.org Allows you to run linux from inside windows.. Very cool, I am currently running Debian 3 inside XP, have the internet working and I can ssh to it.. Working to get X sorted, (have to use VNC cos I don't have an X server on windows..) Very cool way to try before you buy, but its a bit too technical to have a newbie set it up. Still, its certainly an interesting toy. Cool, the best of both worlds! All the virii, worms and crashes of Windoze without having to put up with all the reliability, security, efficiency and power of Linux :^}. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Colinux, run linux natively inside windows.
On May 20, 2004 10:35, frankieh wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On May 20, 2004 00:45, frankieh wrote: Hi guys, I just found something pretty interesting.. http://www.colinux.org Allows you to run linux from inside windows.. Very cool, I am currently running Debian 3 inside XP, have the internet working and I can ssh to it.. Working to get X sorted, (have to use VNC cos I don't have an X server on windows..) Very cool way to try before you buy, but its a bit too technical to have a newbie set it up. Still, its certainly an interesting toy. Cool, the best of both worlds! All the virii, worms and crashes of Windoze without having to put up with all the reliability, security, efficiency and power of Linux :^}. LOL, yes I know.. However, I didn't say I was running it for productivity reasons. Mostly just to test some debian stuff that I will need to load onto a server soon. Also to impress a couple of windows guys with linux. I will install it for them, and they can try it and have a play without leaving their windows comfort zone But its interesting isn't it?? I mean the places linux can run?? possibly the most hostile enviroment on the planet. (inside windows).. Yeah, it is interesting. I'm sure M$ will fix this with their next security patch, though. Just like they used to do to Netscrape, and are currently doing to Real. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI
On May 11, 2004 10:35, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I'm trying to install the KDE game mahjongg 3D (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12553PHPSESSID=23d79a4e78002 9a6433767155a41f066) ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhd]$ /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires Xlib: extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0. /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires: line 8: 23090 Illegal instruction ./mahjongg3d ... I got Mahjongg 3D working. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly what I did to get it working. I downloaded the 0.92 release from the author's web site (I had the 0.90 release from KDE-Apps) and built as a regular user instead of root (there's a permissions problem in the install script. But I also made several upgrades in the interim (Mdk10 installs ancient versions of autoconf, automake, etc. by default, and another program wouldn't build until I upgraded). My ancient graphics card does support 3D, via the Mesa 3D glx package. It just doesn't support DRI (or more specifically, doesn't have a driver available for it that supports DRI). Turns out the DRI missing msg is just a warning, it has nothing to do with the actual problem (the illegal instruction). I get it with any OpenGL program I start from the command line (e.g. glxgears), but the program runs fine anyway, just not accelerated. I'd like to know how to get rid of this message if possible (before you ask, no, my X86Config-4 does not have a 'load dri' line in it). It's harmless but annoying. Any ideas welcome, but it's not a priority. BTW, it's a great game if you like solitaire games. Check it out. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
On May 14, 2004 01:55, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: ... I remember somebody defining 10.0 speed daemon so I was quite negatively impressed by my results. Has anybody noticed such bad performance? raffaele I never used Mdk 9, but I can tell you I was impressed with the speed of 10.0, both CE and Official. I revived an ancient (~6 years old) NT machine, Pentium II 400MHz, graphics card so old it's no longer supported by the vendor. I was surprised how responsive it is on such an old machine - practically instantaneous. It gets sluggish only if there are heavy background processes running, but that's to be expected. Have you tried running top to see if there's something else chewing up your cpu? I've had some runaway kde processes a couple of times (most notably konqueror on certain web sites). 3D programs also kill my performance, because I only have s/w rendering. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] XFree86-DRI
On May 11, 2004 15:54, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 11 May 2004 23:33, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:35:45 -0600 Ron Hunter-Duvar disseminated the following: Does this mean I'm out of luck, that there's just no way to make this game work? I understand the problem with vendors that won't release driver source. But what good is a graphics technology that excludes the number 1 graphics card manufacturer? Unless I'm completely misreading your post, can't you just download the Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia site and install those? No, he can't because it isn't actually a nvidia product...it's *,Thompson IIRC and just uses their (nvidia) chips. It works fine using the nv driver and 2D..and that's it! No 3D etc. Good luck, HarM Yeah, MCC hardware detection lists the vendor as NVidia / SGS Thomson. XF86Config-4 says I'm using the nv driver. This is what Mandrake install set up, I haven't tried any different drivers. I saw another email about someone whose card didn't work with the nv driver, and someone recommended the nvidia driver instead. But it seems that my card is too ancient to be supported by their unified driver architecture. I didn't see anything suggesting that the nvidia driver supports DRI either. So I guess I'm out of luck? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] XFree86-DRI
I'm trying to install the KDE game mahjongg 3D (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12553PHPSESSID=23d79a4e780029a6433767155a41f066) As root, I downloaded and extracted the tarball (mahjongg3d.tar.bz2). Then I did: make PREFIX=/opt/games make PREFIX=/opt/games install The build produced a number of harmless looking warnings (unused parameters and such), but seems to have run successfully. The install appears to have been successful as well. But when I run the game, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rhd]$ /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires Xlib: extension XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0. /opt/games/bin/mahjongg3d-hires: line 8: 23090 Illegal instruction ./mahjongg3d I had no idea what XFree86-DRI was so I started investigating. There was a previous email on this list with the same error, but for a completely different video card, and the links provided didn't seem to help me at all. I have an nVidia Riva128. I found the sourceforge site for DRI, but it says that nVidia cards are not supported because the drivers are all closed source (http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/nVidia?action=highlightvalue=CategoryHardware). Does this mean I'm out of luck, that there's just no way to make this game work? I understand the problem with vendors that won't release driver source. But what good is a graphics technology that excludes the number 1 graphics card manufacturer? Funny thing is the game README makes no mention of DRI being required. It only says that OpenGL and qt-devel are required. This is certainly not a show-stopper for me, but if anyone can provide any pointers (short of writing my own driver :^), I'd appreciate it. It's funny, I read criticisms of Linux and FOSS that a mostly volunteer effort can never keep up with the innovations of a well funded corporation. Yet it seems to me that the biggest problem is the rapid turn-over in technologies that makes it so hard to keep up! I see the OSS to ALSA migration, the 2.4 to 2.6 kernel issues, this DRI graphics technology, and so on. Everything seems to be in a constant state of transition. Oh well, keeps it interesting! -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] backpack serie 6
On May 8, 2004 22:26, Marc Lijour wrote: How do you manage to have your fxload called each time you boot? ... I just downloaded the rpm file from source forge, then did: urpmi fxload-2002_04_11-1.i386.rpm to install it. The code to call it each time was installed as part of the backpack driver install. Part of the backpack usb package was a script called bpckusb. The install script does the following (among other things): cp bpckusb /etc/hotplug/usb This script at the end has the line: /sbin/fxload $FLAGS -I $FIRMWARE All of the usb.usermap lines start with bpckusb. I'm assuming that roughly what happens is: 1. When you plug in the usb device (the backpack drive in this case), it looks up the device ids in usb.usermap. 2. From the line it finds there, it gets the name bpckusb. 3. It runs the script/program of this name in /etc/hotplug/usb. 4. This script runs fxload to load the firmware. 5. The loaded firmware does some black magic with the usb modules to get itself recognized as a cd burner. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lucent Module wont autoload
On May 7, 2004 04:57, John Layt wrote: ... Note on my system the ltmodem is actually at /dev/tts/LT0, /dev/modem is dynamically created when first referred to and made to point to this by the alias lines added to the modprobe.conf file. John. ... Sorry to intrude on your thread, but I want to explore your comment above for my cd-rw device assignment. Are you saying that if I add a line like: alias sg0 scd0 to my modprobe.conf that this will create a /dev/sg0 link that points to my /dev/scd0 (instead of sg0 poining to some non-existent generic scsi device)? This won't break anything else? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Got my sound working, sort of
On May 6, 2004 01:38, Frank wrote: ... Now there is no cs4236 driver available on the Mandrake install (though there is a cs4232), but there is an snd-cs4236. I switched to that, rebooted, and voila, I have sound. ... I switched to that How do you do that? And yeah, be as dumb instructive as you like 'cause I'm likely to mess it up otherwise. Ta -- Regards Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether big or small, any challenge requires the same commitment. Yeah, I left out quite a few details of what I went through, because the message was getting long as it was. I went to System - Configuration - Configure your computer. This is the infamous MCC (Mandrake Control Center, analogous to Windoze control panel). You have to supply the root password to get in here. Then click on Hardware. In there, click on Hardware again. It'll chug away for a while detecting your hardware, then bring up a list of the hardware it detected. Assuming it found your sound card, there will be an entry under Soundcard. Click on this and the window on the right will give you what MCC knows about your sound card - vendor, bus location, and so on. Then click on Run Config Tool along the bottom. When the Sound configuration window pops up, you'll see the current driver listed in a selection list that lets you pick the other drivers Mandrake knows about for you card. In my case, it just listed the cs46xx and the snd-cs46xx. But if you click on Let me pick any driver a little farther down, it'll give you a complete list of sound card drivers that are available. That's how I got to the snd-cs4236 driver. Once you've picked on, it'll show up in the selection list after that. Basically all this wizard does though is make some changes in /etc/modprobe.conf and /etc/modules.conf (I understand that it updates both to be compatible with both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels). You can make the changes directly if you know what you're doing. I wasn't sure, so I used the wizard, then listed these files to see what changed. I noticed that it had added the new lines but hadn't removed the old driver lines. I was worried that this would mess things up, so I ended up editing these files anyway to remove the old lines. Here's the modprobe.conf that the wizard produced: alias eth0 3c59x alias sound-slot-0 snd-cs4236 install snd-cs4236 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-cs4236 { /sbin/modprobe s nd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; } install snd-cs46xx /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-cs46xx { /sbin/modprobe s nd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; } install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /bin/true remove snd-cs4236 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-r emove snd-cs4236 remove snd-cs46xx { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-r emove snd-cs46xx Notice that there are still 46xx lines in there, as well as the new 4236 lines. Here's what I edited it down to: alias eth0 3c59x alias sound-slot-0 snd-cs4236 install snd-cs4236 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-cs4236 { /sbin/modprobe s nd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; } install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; /bin/true remove snd-cs4236 { /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; } ; /sbin/modprobe -r --first-time --ignore-r emove snd-cs4236 After that I rebooted (there might be a way to get the new driver in effect without rebooting, but I don't know what it is). The error messages in /var/log/messages went away, and my sound started working. Sort of. I still have those stereo problems. But it's better than no sound, and possibly the best I can expect from a six year old computer raised from the dead (actually, the undead - I was running NT on it :^). The Trouble shooting button will also list a few steps for trouble shooting your sound problems. It's far from complete, but it's a good start. The only confusing thing in there is that it tells you to run aumix, but this isn't installed by default. You have to urpmi alsa-utils to get this installed before you can run that step. We need a Mandrake for Dummies who were Smart Enough to Dump Windoze book :^). -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] One for JoeHill
On May 5, 2004 04:56, Lanman wrote: Tony S. Sykes wrote: ... On the other hand, I can see many of us telling our employers that we'll bite the bullet and accept Longhorn on our systems, just so we can have that kind of horsepower on our desktops, after which we would promptly install Linux, and never look back at Longhorn again( except when the boss was around)! Grin! ... Lanman Just one problem with that scenario: M$ still gets the money from the purchase of LongHorn (darn, creative juices aren't flowing yet, can't come up with a good corruption of this name) and all the bundled (cr)apps. They're not going to care about competition from Linux if they're still racking in the cash. Of course, few of us can influence what our employers do anyway. But I'm determined to do whatever I legally can to harm their cash flow. I believe in voting with my dollars. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade
On May 4, 2004 04:35, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 20:12, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Finally got updates working with 10.0 Official. I see a completely different list of mirrors now in Mandrake Update, so I guess they've finally straightened that mess out. I updated my kernel from 2.6.3.7 to 2.6.3.9: ... You can see that the initrd.img and vmlinuz links have been updated. But config and System.map still point to the old files, even though new ones have been installed. Also, kernel.h doesn't even have a new version. Now being my first kernel upgrade, and not knowing exactly what role these different files play, these inconsistencies scare me. What do the config and System.map files do? Why do I not have an updated kernel.h? Most importantly, is it safe to boot up to this new kernel with this configuration? Any experienced kernel upgraders out there who can help me out? Boot the new kernel. I guess those files and links are created after the kernel is booted. You were right, the other links got updated during boot. Whew! Thanks. I was a little unnerved about my first kernel upgrade, but it couldn't have gone any smoother. If you have any problem, you can reboot to the kernel you are working with now. Yeah, I was just afraid it might trash something (since those links were pointing to the wrong files, I thought it might overwrite something in the old kernel). My mind's been poisoned by the Windoze world (I keep rebooting when I don't need to, just to be safe :^). Adolfo -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Got my sound working, sort of
I finally got my sound working under Mandrake 10.0 Official download. I have a Crystal Sound Fusion CS4610/1 sound card. In both CE and Official, this was recognized during installation. But when logging in, I always got a popup error saying that /dev/dsp didn't exist, so sound was being routed to /dev/null. Sure enough, no sound. The default driver installed for this card is cs46xx. Sounded reasonable to me. But snd-cs46xx was listed as an alternative. I tried that and got some slightly different error messages during boot, but still the same popup, and still no sound. I discovered during this that the cs46xx driver has been blacklisted by the kernel developers. It is known not to work! I have to ask, what is Mandrake doing, not only supplying a blacklisted driver, but making it the default? Isn't anyone paying attention over there? Anyway, /var/log/messages to the rescue again. There were a number of lines in there about the sound card, but the notable ones were: kernel: create - never read codec ready from AC'97 kernel: it is not probably bug, try to use cs4236 driver Now there is no cs4236 driver available on the Mandrake install (though there is a cs4232), but there is an snd-cs4236. I switched to that, rebooted, and voila, I have sound. It's a little messed up now, possibly due to the use of a driver for an older model of sound card. KMix is convinced that it's mono sound, even though it's actually stereo (I use Pink Floyd's Money to test stereo, nothing better for that). With the default settings, the instrumental comes through okay on both channels, but the voice sounds like they're singing through a vacuum cleaner hose. When I tell KMix to split the channels and slide either slider down half way the voice starts coming through clear, but I lose half the instrumental volume on whichever channel I slid down. I set the left at 100% and the right at 75% and I get a reasonable compromise. I don't notice the difference in most songs, though on ones like Money that make heavy use of the stereo, I notice the reduced right channel instrumental. If anyone has any thoughts on how to improve the sound, I'm listening. Otherwise, I'll live with it the way it is. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] backpack serie 6
On May 2, 2004 14:19, Marc Lijour wrote: Hi I have a bacpack (MIcrosolution) cdwriter. It was working in 9.2. I used to insmod the following modules in this order to have it working: bpck6 (driver) pcd (parallel port connection, which is used to connect the cdwriter) pg (scsi emulation) Then I could see it with cdrecord -scanbus, mount it, and use it. With 10.0 it does not work this way. My loaded modules are: ... --- end --- Please, I would need some help to make it work with kernel 2.6. Thanks, Marc Hey, a fellow backpacker! I'm using the USB interface, though, so it might be different with the parallel port. I downloaded the driver from: http://www.micro-solutions.com/software_library/linux/index3.html I started with 10.0 CE and never did get it working there. Hoped 10.0 Official would fix the problem but it didn't. After a lot of mucking around, I discovered that the fxload program is missing from the Mandrake 10 distro, even though it's part of the Linux Hotplug project on SourceForge. This program is responsible for downloading new firmware to the drive to make it talk to Linux properly. Check in /var/log/messages to see if there's a message saying that fxload is missing. If so, download it from: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17679 Hope this helps. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with the PPC Kernel?
On May 4, 2004 09:49, L66 wrote: I've tried another monitor (an old CRT), removing my TV card and tried different RAM chips, however, it still gives the same jail screen. With the CRT I see Starting mandrake or something like that for a fraction of a second before the jail pattern appears. I'm out of ideas... Both monitors were connected to an ATI Radeon 9000 Mac edition with two digital ports. On one I have an AppleDigitalConnector to VGA converter to connect both VGA PC displays (Apple's displays are too expensive :-). I wonder if that could be the problem... -Leen So it can be the monitor indeed... Thanks for the info, I'll try another one. The monitor doesn't detect if my mac turns it off to save energy (it displays No signal and then turns on standby, so no problem with that on Mac OS). Maybe linux doesn't like that. -Leen I have no experience with Macs or PPCs, so I could be way off base, but did you check the BIOS settings? I'm looking at some notes I scribbled during 10.0 CE install, and it was hanging on boot until I disabled the BIOS power management. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord with MD10.0 CE
On May 4, 2004 03:33, Josenildo Marques wrote: ... Here's what Tom Brinkman wrote about this some time ago. quote Not only that, there's quite a difference burning CD under 2.6.x kernels. ide-scsi is no longer used for IDE CD drives, no /dev/scd*'s are used either. Not even created by devfs. This seems to be causing a lot of confusion for GUI users. ... /quote This quote is rather odd, given that under a vanilla Mandrake 10.0 Official install (no updates), which uses the 2.6.3-7 kernel, my USB CD burner is /dev/scd0, which is a link to scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. This seems to contradict the above quote. I'm definitely confused. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] backpack serie 6
On May 3, 2004 23:03, Marc Lijour wrote: ... I have a bacpack (MIcrosolution) cdwriter. It was working in 9.2. I used to insmod the following modules in this order to have it working: bpck6 (driver) pcd (parallel port connection, which is used to connect the cdwriter) pg (scsi emulation) Then I could see it with cdrecord -scanbus, mount it, and use it. With 10.0 it does not work this way. My loaded modules are: ... --- end --- Please, I would need some help to make it work with kernel 2.6. Thanks, Marc Hey, a fellow backpacker! I'm using the USB interface, though, so it might be different with the parallel port. I downloaded the driver from: http://www.micro-solutions.com/software_library/linux/index3.html I started with 10.0 CE and never did get it working there. Hoped 10.0 Official would fix the problem but it didn't. After a lot of mucking around, I discovered that the fxload program is missing from the Mandrake 10 distro, even though it's part of the Linux Hotplug project on SourceForge. This program is responsible for downloading new firmware to the drive to make it talk to Linux properly. Check in /var/log/messages to see if there's a message saying that fxload is missing. If so, download it from: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17679 Nice to meet you. Not many of us around here! Yeah, maybe that's why they don't bother to include fxload on the CDs. I found it on the Mandrake mirrors: http://gulus.usherb.ca/pub/distro/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/contrib/i586/fx load-2002_04_11-2mdk.i586.rpm My question would be, where does your drive appear in /dev? How do you mount it? And then, why does it stopped working for me with the parallel port.. ... Mine appeared as /dev/scd0, which is a link to scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd (I sent a message the other day about these device assignments, because they don't match with what the various cd writing programs expect, and I'm not sure what to do about this; haven't seen any replies though). I don't have to mount or unmount it. With hotplug working, the device appears when I plug it in, and disappears when I unplug it. When I insert a cd, magicdev takes over to automount it for me. But this is all through the USB interface. I didn't try the parallel port (though if I get the time I might, as I have more USB devices than I have available ports, and my parallel port is empty). Have you tried it through USB? I never used Mandrake 9, so I don't know what changed to break this. But it seems from the messages on this list that quite a few things broke from 9 to 10. I don't know whether that's issues with the new kernel or what the story is. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kernel upgrade
Finally got updates working with 10.0 Official. I see a completely different list of mirrors now in Mandrake Update, so I guess they've finally straightened that mess out. I updated my kernel from 2.6.3.7 to 2.6.3.9: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi.update -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3.9mdk-1-1mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lilo -v Now I have some questions. I have the following in /boot after the update: ... config - config-2.6.3-7mdk config-2.6.3-7mdk config-2.6.3-9mdk ... initrd-2.6.3-7mdk.img initrd-2.6.3-9mdk.img initrd.img - initrd-2.6.3-9mdk.img kernel.h - /boot/kernel.h-2.6.3-7mdk kernel.h-2.6.3-7mdk ... System.map - System.map-2.6.3-7mdk System.map-2.6.3-7mdk System.map-2.6.3-9mdk ... vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.3-9mdk vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk vmlinuz-2.6.3-9mdk You can see that the initrd.img and vmlinuz links have been updated. But config and System.map still point to the old files, even though new ones have been installed. Also, kernel.h doesn't even have a new version. Now being my first kernel upgrade, and not knowing exactly what role these different files play, these inconsistencies scare me. What do the config and System.map files do? Why do I not have an updated kernel.h? Most importantly, is it safe to boot up to this new kernel with this configuration? Any experienced kernel upgraders out there who can help me out? -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with the PPC Kernel?
On May 3, 2004 20:07, L66 wrote: Hello again, I also have tried several PowerPC linux distros on my G4, including Mandrake Linux and Gentoo Linux. They all give me the same result: before I see any text or what the screen is garbled and the computer hangs (well, the caps lock key doesn't work anymore, so I assume that). The screen contains a pattern of black and blue vertical stripes. Maybe my flatscreen has something to do with that. Specifications: PowerMacintosh G4 mirrored drive doors 1 processor at 1.25 GHz 768 MB of RAM Two internal IDE harddisks, one 40 GB, another 120 GB. An internal IDE Sony CD writer/DVD reader A Miglia Alchemy TV card (PCI) An ATI Radeon 9000 video card with 64 MB of VRAM Apple USB keyboard and mouse An ACER AL1911 19 LCD connected to a VGA convertor to the mac. Since all works fine on a G4 Quicksilver I think it might be the display, however, I don't have another one around here. I get one from another location tomorrow. Could it also be the TV card? Thanks for reading, Leen Might be totally unrelated, but I've seen the same jailbird stripes pattern, on my old Dell Dimension XPS R400 (a Pentium II, circa 1998, recently revived). Turned out it was something to do with the power management. My monitor is supposed to be power management friendly, but not with Linux (at least not Mandrake, the only distro I've tried). I turned it off in the BIOS and on the built-in monitor menu, but it was still being activated by Linux. Then I discovered System - Configuration - KDE - Power Control - Display Power Control, and turned it off from there. Now there's no problem as long as someone is logged in (I usually just lock the screen and turn off the monitor power when I leave). But it still gives me the stripes if I leave it sitting at the X login prompt. But if I click around till I hit the login window (not hard since it's always in the same spot), that window will come back, with stripes still in the background. IIRC, it was hanging completely until I disabled the BIOS power management. But that was 2 months ago, which is ancient history for my tired old brain cells, so I could be wrong. I remember having to hard reset several times after the first install. Something to look at anyway. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] backpack serie 6
Resend... sent this earlier today, during the email server hiccup, and never got a confirmation, but I've gotten confirmations since then, so it seems this got lost. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] backpack serie 6 Date: May 3, 2004 14:34 From: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 2, 2004 14:19, Marc Lijour wrote: Hi I have a bacpack (MIcrosolution) cdwriter. It was working in 9.2. I used to insmod the following modules in this order to have it working: bpck6 (driver) pcd (parallel port connection, which is used to connect the cdwriter) pg (scsi emulation) Then I could see it with cdrecord -scanbus, mount it, and use it. With 10.0 it does not work this way. My loaded modules are: ... --- end --- Please, I would need some help to make it work with kernel 2.6. Thanks, Marc Hey, a fellow backpacker! I'm using the USB interface, though, so it might be different with the parallel port. I downloaded the driver from: http://www.micro-solutions.com/software_library/linux/index3.html I started with 10.0 CE and never did get it working there. Hoped 10.0 Official would fix the problem but it didn't. After a lot of mucking around, I discovered that the fxload program is missing from the Mandrake 10 distro, even though it's part of the Linux Hotplug project on SourceForge. This program is responsible for downloading new firmware to the drive to make it talk to Linux properly. Check in /var/log/messages to see if there's a message saying that fxload is missing. If so, download it from: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=17679 Hope this helps. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. --- -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 CE printing problems
On April 29, 2004 23:24, Bill Echols wrote: Hi, I can't get my printer, an HP Deskjet 845c, to print from 10.0CE. It queues up but the printer icon in the jobs it always has a red X on it. If I try to print a test page, it says everything went OK, but it just gets queued up. Sometimes when I go into CUPS I have to start the printer but still no printing occurs. I really need my printer as I am looking for work but I refuse to slink back to windows. I would rather not go back to 9.2. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Bill Don't know if any of this helps, but fwiw... My 990Cse didn't work with CE until I downloaded and installed the driver from HP. CE knew there was a printer there, but didn't know how to talk to it. Also, hotplug didn't work for me in CE. If I booted with the printer attached, I was fine. But if I unplugged and replugged, it wouldn't find the printer again (though I discovered some way in MCC to make it connect again; can't remember now). Both the driver and the hotplug problem were fixed when I went to 10.0 Official. I recommend this. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installed Mandrake 10.0 Official
On April 29, 2004 19:11, Lanman wrote: ... Ron; By the sounds of the desktop manager that you seem to be using (KDE), you can log into your box as a normal user (ie; Ron ? ), then open KControl (StartSystemConfigurationConfigure Your Desktop), and go to the section called (What Else?)System ! Open that section up, and find the section called Login Manager. You will see a button near the bottom called Administrator. Click it, and enter the password you originally used for the root user. Once inside of that, click on the tab called Users. On the left, you will see a section called Show Users. Click on Selected Only, and then put an X in the box beside each user's name that you'd like to see at the login panel. For security sake, leave all unneeded user's unchecked. Click Apply in the lower right corner, and you're done. The next time you boot it up, your Desktop Manager will show you the Login Panel like you're used to seeing. Enjoy! Lanman Ahh, that did the trick perfectly, and without switching display managers (I'm using the default, MdkKDM). Cool! Thanks for the tip. I guess I can see the rationale for hiding this from newbies. Once they've learned enough to be able to activate it, they're more likely to be able to use it safely. And while I was at it, I discovered how to put the focus on the password field. It always bugged me that it came up with the focus in the wrong place (on the login button, requiring me to either tab twice or mouse click to enter my password). Lots of other options in there I haven't even explored yet too. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Automatically mount a USB drive
On April 21, 2004 11:27, Ian Urie wrote: ... In KDE...go to behaviour , tick the mounted hard drive partition. I take it you mean System - Configuration - KDE - LookNFeel - Behavior I was trying this out (I'm having usb problems too), and noticed the option to show icons for unmounted drives. Decided to check it out (when the icons only appear on mount, they seem to appear in random screen locations, not lined up with the other icons, which is kinda ugly; call me neurotic, but I like to keep my desktop neat). So then I got curious what happens when I double click an icon for an umounted drive. Guess what? It mounts it, even if there's nothing in it (I tried it with my cdrom drive empty). So then I unmounted, and it hung my system solid - mouse, keyboard, everything frozen! Had to hit the reset button. After it rebooted, it had shifted my display an inch to the right and a half inch up (had to use the menu built into my monitor to reposition), and randomly repositioned all my desktop icons. Nasty! BTW, I'm on 10.0 CE download, with no updates (cuz in 6 weeks, I haven't gotten MU or urpmi to work once; always dies on a curl error). Is there a Mandrake equivalent to Ctrl-Alt-Del, which on Windoze 2K usually at least allows me to gain enough control to do a clean shutdown (I'm not a Windoze fan, my employer makes me use it, I just like to have that particular feature available). -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Automatically mount a USB drive
On April 21, 2004 14:24, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Wednesday 21 April 2004 21:40, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: snip Is there a Mandrake equivalent to Ctrl-Alt-Del, which on Windoze 2K usually at least allows me to gain enough control to do a clean shutdown (I'm not a Windoze fan, my employer makes me use it, I just like to have that particular feature available). /snip Depending on your setting in /etc/inittab the Windows-salute should initiate a clean shutdown or reboot. But, honestly, this is hardly ever needed in linux. I haven't touched my inittab, just whatever 10.0 CE has by default. I see these lines in there: # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now Looks like what you're talking about. But I tried it before (out of habit), and it did nothing. Just tried it again, and all it did was log me out. In case of a hanging application (in KDE) you can hit Ctrl + Alt + Esc then move your cursor (now a skull) to the offending application and left-click. That's a kill. Sweet. In case of a hanging GUI (X-server), you can hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace. This kills X and gets you to a new login. In case of nothing (exept the keyboard) working, and right before you consider a hard reset, you have to play a little piano-sonata : Alt + SysRq + r + s + e + i + u + b (Mnemotech : Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring) This sequence performs a clean reboot, including sync. Interesting. I thought I saw the alt+sysrq somewhere. It didn't do anything for me. I didn't know the rest of the incantation. HTH Kaj Haulrich. Problem is I won't remember these the rare times I need them (I'm kind of like Dory in Finding Nemo). I could just hold down ctrl and alt and hammer randomly on the keyboard :^). I suppose I should write it down. Anyway, thanks for the tips. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Trying to get usb cd burner working
Sent this yesterday, but it seems that I didn't respond to the confirmation soon enough, so it was never distributed... And to update a bit: 1. I discovered that the harddrake and hotplug services were not set to start at boot, so I manually started them, and set them to start at boot. 2. lspcidrake -v still gives me the same result, even after a reboot (due to the hang I mentioned earlier today). Is there some table I have to update or something to get the device to be recognized from the id? 3. There's no /etc/fstabs entry for this device. Do I need to add one manually, or should hotplug do this for me? How do I know what device this would be in /dev? Anything else I should be looking at? Ron -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Trying to get usb cd burner working Date: April 20, 2004 17:43 From: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I'm trying to get my clunky old Micro Solutions Backpack CD Rewriter running under 10.0 CE on my clunky old Dell Dimension XPS R400 desktop (so that I can backup my personal files before upgrading to 10.0 Official). I've installed the driver RPM available from http://www.micro-solutions.com/software_library/linux/index3.html (thanks Micro Solutions for providing a Linux driver). Now what? The device shows up as Unknown/Others in the Hardware - Hardware section of MCC, with the following details: Vendor: (null) Bus: USB Description: Module: unknown Media class: lspcidrake -v gives me the following line: unknown : unknown (0ac9///) I know this is the right line, because it disappears if I unplug the burner. On http://www.linux-usb.org/ I see the following in the list of Linux USB devices: 0ac9 Micro Solutions, Inc. BackPack CD-ReWriter It says somewhere else on this site that this device has been supported since 2002. I'm seeing the right device id. So why doesn't it recognize the device? Any hints would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm a total newbie to Linux - Mandrake 10.0 CE download is my first Linux install, and it'll be 6 weeks tomorrow. I am a techie though, and have some Solaris sys admin experience more years ago than I care to admit. So I can track down a problem when I have to, but I prefer when things just work. So far Mandrake is great. I had to disable power management to keep it from making my display all wonky (black and white horizontal stripes, jailbird style), and I still can't get my sound working. But I'm waiting to see if Official fixes that. Oh, and I've yet to get a successful update from Mandrake too. Otherwise, it's been smooth sailing, other than the inevitable learning curve. I can tell you that it's easier to administer than the NT 4.0 that it replaced (good riddance!). Been meaning to take this plunge for a while, but couldn't find the time (thanks in part to the Microscum treadmill). Anyway, enough babble. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net --- -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] chmod directory and file?
On April 21, 2004 15:01, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi all, I found out that some directories and files that I copied from windows have 777 in permission. I tried to chmod -R 644 /directoryname, all files were correctly set into 644, but then all directories were also set into 644. I understand that directory must be set into 755? So, how do I set all files to 644 while also setting the directories into 755? I tried man chmod, but the only seemed related options was -R which gave me the wrong result. TIA, That's something I always thought was a deficiency of the chmod command in Unix, thatthere's no easy way to do this. They seemed to have propagated this deficiency to Linux. Should be an option that goes with -R, but there isn't. There's an incantation with the find command that can do this. I can never remember it exactly, but it's in the man pages. Something like this: find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; where the . indicates the current directory. Put any other path there if you're not in the directory where you want to do this. I might not have the syntax exactly correct (could be you need a \ before the {} too). -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com