[newbie] Linux install on WinXP
OK - I'm frustrated! I've done this 3 times now and every time the install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to WinXP. No LILO, nothing. I take the default location for LILO from the installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing! How can I fix this?! How do I know where to put LILO? (boot partition?). Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP
On Friday 29 Nov 2002 1:04 am, Sekurity Wizard wrote: OK - I'm frustrated! I've done this 3 times now and every time the install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to WinXP. No LILO, nothing. I take the default location for LILO from the installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing! How can I fix this?! How do I know where to put LILO? (boot partition?). Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks. Do you have more than one hard drive? I am wondering if you are writing Lilo to one hard drive and your Bios is booting from the other. Also did you try Grub? I do not use it myself, but it is real easy to switch. No need for a reinstall. Just go through the 'Boot' section in Mandrake Control Centre. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 12:04, Sekurity Wizard wrote: OK - I'm frustrated! I've done this 3 times now and every time the install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to WinXP. No LILO, nothing. I take the default location for LILO from the installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing! How can I fix this?! How do I know where to put LILO? (boot partition?). Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks. Try booting with a Win98 boot disk , running FDISK and setting the partition where the linux boot is to ACTIVE - then reboot - you'll find lilo happily living where it's supposed to be - and you can add your other OS to the boot menu by typing lilo at the console prompt. -- Fri Nov 29 13:25:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Why do we have two eyes? To watch 3-D movies with. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP
OK - I have a boot option on my BIOS, so I decided (for kicks) to boot off of what was SCSI Disk, which is my IDE-RAID on-board card (K7V333 board) and I got LILO. It's pretty cool - it works, but took like 15 seconds for LINUX to start booting, but when it did, it flew and works GREAT. Weird -Original Message- From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux install on WinXP On Friday 29 Nov 2002 1:04 am, Sekurity Wizard wrote: OK - I'm frustrated! I've done this 3 times now and every time the install appears PERFECT, except when I reboot, it goes straight to WinXP. No LILO, nothing. I take the default location for LILO from the installer, figure it would know best, and 3 times - nothing! How can I fix this?! How do I know where to put LILO? (boot partition?). Thanks - I'm lost - this sucks. Do you have more than one hard drive? I am wondering if you are writing Lilo to one hard drive and your Bios is booting from the other. Also did you try Grub? I do not use it myself, but it is real easy to switch. No need for a reinstall. Just go through the 'Boot' section in Mandrake Control Centre. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and pre-schoolers
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:39:28AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: Looks great, Todd. I would like to see projects like this reported in computer mags - at least those with an open mind. I would suggest possibly forwarding this post to Linux Format, Linux Magazine, PCPlus and Computer Shopper. The last two are not linux only, of course, but both carry some coverage. It's projects like this that take some of the 'scare' out of starting. What do you think? Anne Thanks. I have thought about writing some more details about the setup and turning it into a web page and submitting it to opensourceschools.org. But I also like the idea of taking it mainstream. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and pre-schoolers
On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 2:10 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:39:28AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: Looks great, Todd. I would like to see projects like this reported in computer mags - at least those with an open mind. I would suggest possibly forwarding this post to Linux Format, Linux Magazine, PCPlus and Computer Shopper. The last two are not linux only, of course, but both carry some coverage. It's projects like this that take some of the 'scare' out of starting. What do you think? Anne Thanks. I have thought about writing some more details about the setup and turning it into a web page and submitting it to opensourceschools.org. But I also like the idea of taking it mainstream. Well, we have been discussing how we can get more media coverage. I think something like this would be invaluable - a real application of how to use it for a specific market. There are obvious packages for kids under windows, but it's not well-known that you can set up a whole user base for such youngsters under linux. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and pre-schoolers
While on the subject for kids here are some links I ran accross. kidsforge page http://www.linuxforkids.org/ The KDE project http://edu.kde.org/ http://telematique.org/ft/kids.htm This is a lego clones which I was unable to get running on md 9.0 If anyone is able let me know how. http://leocad.gerf.org/ lol Aaron On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 17:08, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 27 Nov 2002 2:10 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:39:28AM +, Anne Wilson wrote: Looks great, Todd. I would like to see projects like this reported in computer mags - at least those with an open mind. I would suggest possibly forwarding this post to Linux Format, Linux Magazine, PCPlus and Computer Shopper. The last two are not linux only, of course, but both carry some coverage. It's projects like this that take some of the 'scare' out of starting. What do you think? Anne Thanks. I have thought about writing some more details about the setup and turning it into a web page and submitting it to opensourceschools.org. But I also like the idea of taking it mainstream. Well, we have been discussing how we can get more media coverage. I think something like this would be invaluable - a real application of how to use it for a specific market. There are obvious packages for kids under windows, but it's not well-known that you can set up a whole user base for such youngsters under linux. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and pre-schoolers
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 02:08, Anne Wilson wrote: Well, we have been discussing how we can get more media coverage. I think something like this would be invaluable - a real application of how to use it for a specific market. There are obvious packages for kids under windows, but it's not well-known that you can set up a whole user base for such youngsters under linux. Anne The people who do Rox and the people who do Oroborus probably wouldn't mind too much if you took the code from both and melted them into one package - any of y'all remember the Apple Kids Desktop? I've like Rox since I first played with it, and though I've only installed Oroboros as a test WM, it's not bad...just needed a bit of tweaking... Overall, though, Enlightenment, Blackbox, Fluxbox, Hackedbox, Openbox - they can be reconfigured to NOT utilize a root menu by modifying the mouse configs - hence letting Roxfiler do it's thing... It really wouldn't take much effort to put a package together - only a matter of planning out what applications come in the package and how a configuration program is setup for the package... Plan the work and work the plan - as my dad used to say... -- Thu Nov 28 15:40:00 EST 2002 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn He who attacks the fundamentals of the American broadcasting industry attacks democracy itself. -- William S. Paley, chairman of CBS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux and pre-schoolers
I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter who likes to type in OpenOffice, play with Tuxpaint and Stickers, and listen to some .wav's I captured from one of her favorite cartoons. I created an account for her, but never found a desktop/window manager I was happy with and that I was willing to turn her loose in. I wanted something minimal but that would still support desktop icons. I didn't want a panel. I wanted a very fast window manager and file manager. And I wanted to make it as kidproof as possible. Aren't you just dying to know what I've got her using? I'm using ROX as her session manager and desktop. I run it using the pinboard (for desktop icons) but not the panel. I put icons to her favorite apps on the desktop. The file manager is obviously ROX--super fast. And the window manager is Oroborus (http://www.dreamind.de/oroborus.shtml)--very lightweight and easy to configure. The main reason I chose Oroborus was because it doesn't have any root menu, so clicking on the desktop does not bring up a menu of apps and options that I'd have to edit out by hand. Instead, clicking on the desktop gives a harmless ROX dialog. You can see a screenshot here: http://clevername.homeip.net/gallery/screenshots/2002_11_26_21_06_50 . It shows the icons and a ROX-Filer inside the Oroborus window manager. I can still do admin stuff if need be by opening her home directory in ROX; from there I can launch xterm. I'm pretty confident that she will not be able to mess anything up, but I'll let you know once we do some more testing! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux book in normal english
At 09:28 PM 11/3/2002 -0600, you wrote: A friend and I have been discussing linux in general and Mandrake in particular. below is part of a email that I received from him. Can anyone suggest some good reading material for this guy? Thanks all Marc Personaly I have always found that working with it while I am learning works best for me . On computers and about anything elese for that matter. But maybe that is just me I seem to learn in kinda a different way than most people. That's usually true for me to, but in this case, don't want to upset my applecart with regarding the things I use everyday... If I had a third computer to play and learn on, that'd be different. And remember learning enough to run my own is not enough, I want to be able to work on others as well. So a lot of playing and futzing is required. And I'm the kinda guy thats gotta have a gestalt. I need to build a construct in my head of how this thing works and where all the switches and buttons are just like I have with Winblows. Right now, I'm just learning the terminology. And the tutuorials I'm finding so far are all geek speek. They use one set of technical terms to explain another... it's a circle. Practical Linux, Mark G. Sobell good book tho i found parts of it useless... most of it helped me learn as your friend does. --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux book in normal english
At 05:58 AM 11/4/2002 +0200, you wrote: A friend and I have been discussing linux in general and Mandrake in particular. below is part of a email that I received from him. Can anyone suggest some good reading material for this guy? Thanks all Marc Downloadable books for free: http://maththinking.com/boat/computerbooks.html --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux book in normal english
On Monday 04 November 2002 04:28, Marc wrote: A friend and I have been discussing linux in general and Mandrake in particular. below is part of a email that I received from him. Can anyone suggest some good reading material for this guy? Thanks all Marc Personaly I have always found that working with it while I am learning works best for me . On computers and about anything elese for that matter. But maybe that is just me I seem to learn in kinda a different way than most people. That's usually true for me to, but in this case, don't want to upset my applecart with regarding the things I use everyday... If I had a third computer to play and learn on, that'd be different. And remember learning enough to run my own is not enough, I want to be able to work on others as well. So a lot of playing and futzing is required. And I'm the kinda guy thats gotta have a gestalt. I need to build a construct in my head of how this thing works and where all the switches and buttons are just like I have with Winblows. Right now, I'm just learning the terminology. And the tutuorials I'm finding so far are all geek speek. They use one set of technical terms to explain another... it's a circle. The way I read it (tween the lines) your friend wants a book on the gui and how it works. find something on KDE (or gnome), not linux in particular for him and he'll be happy. It'll be familiar enough methinks, to get him acquainted:o) the 'geeck' (commandline) will come in good time. Good luck, Harm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux book in normal english
hi I found the other book. rute it is called. http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz I still think that the best starting place is think unix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Marc Sent: ?a 04 ?aaiao 2002 5:28? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux book in normal english A friend and I have been discussing linux in general and Mandrake in particular. below is part of a email that I received from him. Can anyone suggest some good reading material for this guy? Thanks all Marc Personaly I have always found that working with it while I am learning works best for me . On computers and about anything elese for that matter. But maybe that is just me I seem to learn in kinda a different way than most people. That's usually true for me to, but in this case, don't want to upset my applecart with regarding the things I use everyday... If I had a third computer to play and learn on, that'd be different. And remember learning enough to run my own is not enough, I want to be able to work on others as well. So a lot of playing and futzing is required. And I'm the kinda guy thats gotta have a gestalt. I need to build a construct in my head of how this thing works and where all the switches and buttons are just like I have with Winblows. Right now, I'm just learning the terminology. And the tutuorials I'm finding so far are all geek speek. They use one set of technical terms to explain another... it's a circle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux book in normal english
I went to this web site, and it knocked me on my ass with laughter. Go to http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book with Konqueror or Mozilla and see what IE [l]users see. This may be nothing new to most of you, but it was to me. Miark On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:53:16 +0200 Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi I found the other book. rute it is called. http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz I still think that the best starting place is think unix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Marc Sent: ?a 04 ?aaiao 2002 5:28? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux book in normal english A friend and I have been discussing linux in general and Mandrake in particular. below is part of a email that I received from him. Can anyone suggest some good reading material for this guy? Thanks all Marc Personaly I have always found that working with it while I am learning works best for me . On computers and about anything elese for that matter. But maybe that is just me I seem to learn in kinda a different way than most people. That's usually true for me to, but in this case, don't want to upset my applecart with regarding the things I use everyday... If I had a third computer to play and learn on, that'd be different. And remember learning enough to run my own is not enough, I want to be able to work on others as well. So a lot of playing and futzing is required. And I'm the kinda guy thats gotta have a gestalt. I need to build a construct in my head of how this thing works and where all the switches and buttons are just like I have with Winblows. Right now, I'm just learning the terminology. And the tutuorials I'm finding so far are all geek speek. They use one set of technical terms to explain another... it's a circle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux book in normal english
On Tuesday 05 Nov 2002 5:57 am, Miark wrote: I went to this web site, and it knocked me on my ass with laughter. Go to http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book with Konqueror or Mozilla and see what IE [l]users see. This may be nothing new to most of you, but it was to me. Miark ROFLMAO! ...'bout time... -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux book in normal english
A friend and I have been discussing linux in general and Mandrake in particular. below is part of a email that I received from him. Can anyone suggest some good reading material for this guy? Thanks all Marc Personaly I have always found that working with it while I am learning works best for me . On computers and about anything elese for that matter. But maybe that is just me I seem to learn in kinda a different way than most people. That's usually true for me to, but in this case, don't want to upset my applecart with regarding the things I use everyday... If I had a third computer to play and learn on, that'd be different. And remember learning enough to run my own is not enough, I want to be able to work on others as well. So a lot of playing and futzing is required. And I'm the kinda guy thats gotta have a gestalt. I need to build a construct in my head of how this thing works and where all the switches and buttons are just like I have with Winblows. Right now, I'm just learning the terminology. And the tutuorials I'm finding so far are all geek speek. They use one set of technical terms to explain another... it's a circle. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
hey flux, why not use an ntfs partitions for the win system, you will be able to mount it read only noproblem in linux, and use a shared fat partition if you want to write stuff to a place that win can see, for all the problems that win is accused of having ntfs is definitely a more secure option than fat, just don't try to write to it in linux, getting back lilo is just a case of using your boot disk as mentioned elsewhere, if you didn't make one then something like tomsrtboot disk can be used to boot the machine, then you mount your linux parition somewhere, chroot into it and run lilo - at least that's what i've done in the past bascule On Thursday 31 Oct 2002 2:59 pm, Flux wrote: Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence -- Looking into Granny's eyes was like looking into a mirror. What you saw looking back at you was yourself, and there was no hiding place. (Maskerade) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Hiya! First of all, I'm new to the whole mailing-list thing, so please don't kill me if I do something stupid ^_^ That said, I was wondering whether anyone knows how to change the TCP/IP settings (more precisely the MTU value) as I need to lower it so that I can few certain websites. Thanks in advance. - Christian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
Lawrence, Either use your boot floppy and redo lilo, or your first CD and rescue your lilo. Tony. -Original Message- From: Flux [mailto:flux;duratechindustries.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:00 PM To: Linux Subject: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:David.Hamnett-Taylor;BCPSoftware.com immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
Lawrence, Sorry just reread your email. The best way as I understand 98 formats the whole partition, is to install Linux and then make sure you leave some space for win98. Install it in the empty partition, then use you boot disk and reload lilo. Tony. -Original Message- From: Tony S. Sykes Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE Lawrence, Either use your boot floppy and redo lilo, or your first CD and rescue your lilo. Tony. -Original Message- From: Flux [mailto:flux;duratechindustries.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:00 PM To: Linux Subject: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:David.Hamnett-Taylor;BCPSoftware.com immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:David.Hamnett-Taylor;BCPSoftware.com immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
Flux, My only comment on your predicument is that I can't see why you are downgrading to Win 98 SE? Did you have a problem with Win 2K that makes you want to go to a less robust and older version? Win 2K can be reloaded with a FAT32 partition instead of NTFS. As long as you own the 'better' version of Windows and it's not giving you any problems, I wouldn't load Win 98 SE just to get the FAT32 and sharing between the two O/S's. My take on this. Good luck in whatever you do. T - Original Message - From: Flux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
I haven't done this lately, but I believe that when you originally installed W98 it asks you if you want to create a W98 boot floppy (in case you run into problems later, etc.). If you did that, you can boot from the floppy, then run fdisk to wipe the disk and create partitions before doing the install. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Flux Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:00 AM To: Linux Subject: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
I agree with this. I can't remember if the W2K install won't let you create a fat32 partition. If that's the case, you can still use the W98 boot floppy to create partitions with fdisk, then run W2K install. W2K (XP too) is happy to install onto fat32. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Technoslick Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE My only comment on your predicument is that I can't see why you are downgrading to Win 98 SE? Did you have a problem with Win 2K that makes you want to go to a less robust and older version? Win 2K can be reloaded with a FAT32 partition instead of NTFS. As long as you own the 'better' version of Windows and it's not giving you any problems, I wouldn't load Win 98 SE just to get the FAT32 and sharing between the two O/S's. - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
*blinkblink* ^ That's me trying to figure out why I forgot about Win2k and Fat32. I actually intended to do just that, but somehow the notion left my mind. Well, looks like I'm starting over once again! Isn't this what tinkering is all about? HA! Thanks, Technoslick for that jog to the memory. -Lawrence 10/31/2002 9:18:41 AM, Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flux, My only comment on your predicument is that I can't see why you are downgrading to Win 98 SE? Did you have a problem with Win 2K that makes you want to go to a less robust and older version? Win 2K can be reloaded with a FAT32 partition instead of NTFS. As long as you own the 'better' version of Windows and it's not giving you any problems, I wouldn't load Win 98 SE just to get the FAT32 and sharing between the two O/S's. My take on this. Good luck in whatever you do. T - Original Message - From: Flux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
Flux wrote: Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence So now you have a hard drive with mandrake on some partitions, but no windblows at all, and further more the windows partition is deleted, you didn't say how you deleted but couldn't that same device recreate that partition.then install windblows and then rerun mandrake CD1 to reinstall lilo, because by then you will have a windblows MBR to install lilo in. I don't think your position is impossible but obviously you have to recreate that missing partition without destroying existing mandrake partitions , I don't believe either of the Windblows OS's will format the whole drive if you tell it to just format the right partition, but obviously that partition has to be remade and designated a primary dos partition.It must of been the first partition on your drive, so it will get recreated with a bit of luck as a primary anyway. -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
Glad that made sense to you. It's what I would have tried to do first. :-) I do have a question for you? My experiences in working with recovering/reinstalling from recovery disks has been mixed and without a lot of grief (read this as profanity at its best!) By any chance, have you ever tried to reload Win 2K from the CD 'without' invoking the automation gods that seem to want to do it their own way? T - Original Message - From: Flux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE *blinkblink* ^ That's me trying to figure out why I forgot about Win2k and Fat32. I actually intended to do just that, but somehow the notion left my mind. Well, looks like I'm starting over once again! Isn't this what tinkering is all about? HA! Thanks, Technoslick for that jog to the memory. -Lawrence 10/31/2002 9:18:41 AM, Technoslick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flux, My only comment on your predicument is that I can't see why you are downgrading to Win 98 SE? Did you have a problem with Win 2K that makes you want to go to a less robust and older version? Win 2K can be reloaded with a FAT32 partition instead of NTFS. As long as you own the 'better' version of Windows and it's not giving you any problems, I wouldn't load Win 98 SE just to get the FAT32 and sharing between the two O/S's. My take on this. Good luck in whatever you do. T - Original Message - From: Flux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE Okay, this definitely fits in the newbie catagory... I've been playing around with my dual-boot Win2k/ML9 install, when it finally got to me that I can't really interact with the Windows partition, due to the NT file system. So, I decided to downgrade the Windows install to Win98SE. Now, what makes this a newbie issue is that fact that I blindly deleted the first partition on the drive, which happened to have both the Win2k install and the boot loader redirectory, so now I can't boot into Windows (duh) NOR Linux! (I understand that's not entirely true, but for newbie purposes we'll presume that it is) So, in perfect newbie fashion, I decided to pop in my Compaq Evo N150 recovery disc and completely start ALL OVER AGAIN! But here's the question: If this recovery forced me to reformat the entire drive and make the whole thing one partition, how am I supposed to install Linux on it for a dual-boot? Maybe I should ask WHERE am I supposed to install Linux? Please help, because I'm sure to cause myself more pain hashing through it myself... -Lawrence --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux w/ Win98SE
At 10:38 AM 10/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: I agree with this. I can't remember if the W2K install won't let you create a fat32 partition. If that's the case, you can still use the W98 boot floppy to create partitions with fdisk, then run W2K install. W2K (XP too) is happy to install onto fat32. Win2k lets you choose NTFS or Fat32 on installation. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux documentation!?
At 07:36 AM 10/25/2002 +1300, you wrote: On Friday 25 Oct 2002 11:42 am, Dimitris Adamopoulos wrote: Anybody knows where i could find linux documentation (pdf or anything else) besides www.tldp.org I am trying to make a library of books that i can't afford to buy from the stores! http://www.linuxdoc.org has some good stuff. There's also the Linux Cookbook which a google search should find. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have teh cookbook as well as a Linux SysAdmins guide to Linux. all online PDF Or Html docs --- Femme # You can get The Linux Cookbook here: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/downloads/cookbook-1.2-html.zip You can make a link in your browser to the /cookbook/index.html file and you can have it handy for browsing when you need it. I have found it helpful. 8-) All the best. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber * *Reg. Linux User #278931* * *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* * -- ___ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux on a Win CE Device
Has anyone in this group found, installed and actually got any use out of any linux running on a Windows CE device? I have a Sharp Mobilon Tripad (same as the Clio) which runs on Win CE 2.11. It has 16 MBs of RAM (expandable to 32 MBs), a 640 X 480 screen, PCMCIA Type 2 slot, internal 33.6 modem and IR port for sending/receiving. I have done some research on Linux for such devices, but most are trying to run the O/S on a Pocket PC (PPC!) The Tripad and its sister machine are HPC's or Handheld PC's. Because it is almost like a full-capacity notebook computer, it would be a real joy to find some way to get Linux on it. Does anyone out there have any real experience any of this? Was it worth the effort in converting? And finally...were you able to do anything in the O/S once you did? Thanks! T P.S. I have to laugh at myself when I say that when I first saw the term 'PPC' used on the Mandrake site, I thought that they had a version of Linux for the Pocket PC! let's have a round of deserved laughter from all the Mac users :-D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux documentation!?
At 07:36 AM 10/25/2002 +1300, you wrote: On Friday 25 Oct 2002 11:42 am, Dimitris Adamopoulos wrote: Anybody knows where i could find linux documentation (pdf or anything else) besides www.tldp.org I am trying to make a library of books that i can't afford to buy from the stores! http://www.linuxdoc.org has some good stuff. There's also the Linux Cookbook which a google search should find. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have teh cookbook as well as a Linux SysAdmins guide to Linux. all online PDF Or Html docs --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux documentation!?
Hi all! Anybody knows where i could find linux documentation (pdf or anything else) besides www.tldp.org I am trying to make a library of books that i can't afford to buy from the stores! thanks a lot! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] linux documentation!?
Mandrake Linux allows you to download PDFs (user guide reference guide) from their web site. There are other PDFs available for free such as advanced Linux programming, Linux administration... Contact me offline if you want me to mail them to you. Tadimeti Kesav KEANE INDIA Ltd. E9 - E12, SDF NEPZ NOIDA - 201 305 U.P, INDIA Telefon: +91-120-456 8210 (211) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dimitris Adamopoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:12 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] linux documentation!? Hi all! Anybody knows where i could find linux documentation (pdf or anything else) besides www.tldp.org I am trying to make a library of books that i can't afford to buy from the stores! thanks a lot! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux documentation!?
On Friday 25 Oct 2002 11:42 am, Dimitris Adamopoulos wrote: Anybody knows where i could find linux documentation (pdf or anything else) besides www.tldp.org I am trying to make a library of books that i can't afford to buy from the stores! http://www.linuxdoc.org has some good stuff. There's also the Linux Cookbook which a google search should find. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux app for resizing PDFs
Is there a way to resize A4 PDF pages to U.S. Letter using what comes in a d/l 3-CD distro of MDK 9? I tried using KGhostView without success. I would like to keep the docs as PDFs, if possible, but would glady convert them to something else as long as they print out as they now look in PDF format. Currently, I am porting them over to a M$ machine that gives me access to AdobeDistiller to change the page sizes to fit my lazer printer. A friendly point in the right direction is enough, but please give me simple to achieve approach, if possible. :-) TIA T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux app for resizing PDFs
Not sure if you can resize with ghostscript. What I do know is that Acrobat 5.05 allows you to print to any size paper, and it will scale the image to fit the paper. Is that what you want? It is not on the download CDs though :( Acrobat is available as an RPM from Mandrake Club, and is available somewhere on the Adobe download site. derek On Wednesday 16 Oct 2002 5:37 pm, Technoslick wrote: Is there a way to resize A4 PDF pages to U.S. Letter using what comes in a d/l 3-CD distro of MDK 9? I tried using KGhostView without success. I would like to keep the docs as PDFs, if possible, but would glady convert them to something else as long as they print out as they now look in PDF format. Currently, I am porting them over to a M$ machine that gives me access to AdobeDistiller to change the page sizes to fit my lazer printer. A friendly point in the right direction is enough, but please give me simple to achieve approach, if possible. :-) TIA T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux app for resizing PDFs
Derek Jennings wrote: Not sure if you can resize with ghostscript. Doesn't appear to...at least I can't get it to work with my particular laser printer... What I do know is that Acrobat 5.05 allows you to print to any size paper, and it will scale the image to fit the paper. Is that what you want? I forgot about Acrobat for Linux! I don't HAVE to reconstruct the PDFs, just get them to print out in the correct page format to satisfy my anal printer. ;-) It is not on the download CDs though :( Acrobat is available as an RPM from Mandrake Club, and is available somewhere on the Adobe download site. This is great! I don't care that it is not on the MDK CDs, as long as I can get it somewhere. derek Thanks, Derek! T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Mandrake FireWall to restrict NT users to use internet.
Hi Mandrake Users, I'm planning to implement some kind of Linux-Mandrake FireWall so that I could restrict my NT users from accessing the internet. What I had in mind was that my NT Users would have to use their same NT user details and get charged for it or either get it for free depending on their positions. With many thanks in advance, Karotu
RE: [newbie] Linux virus wall
setup a third mail server, that does nothing but receive mail, scan it and passes it on to one of the other mail servers... I suggest postfix, amavisd, and the free Trend filescan. (search the amavisd archives, I have posted the info on that at least a dozen times.) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Belkie, Dan Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2002 11:07 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Linux virus wall Can anyone recomend a good (Prefer Free) virus wall? Somthing like trend micros virus wall? What I need this software to do is accept email, scan it and then forward it onto the mail server if its ok. I have 2 seperate mail servers. 1 qmail and 1 exchange both on the inside of the lan. So the software cant run on the mail server it self. Any ideas? Thanks Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux on School Network
On Wednesday 18 Sep 2002 5:25 pm, Brian Koppe wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get a Mandrake Linux 8.1 server that my friend had set up running on my school's network, but unfortunately it is not getting an IP address. I've taken the network card and plugged it into my Windows box, activated it on the network, and placed it back in the server box, so I know that's not it (we're required to accept terms of use before it allows our cards to access the internet). I've also re-run the network configuration tool in the Mandrake Control Center and it still won't get an IP. Any ideas? What other information do you need to help? We don't know what else to try from here. Thanks. Brian I had the same problem a while back. I think all I did was enter the IP address and hostname into /etc/hosts. Note: you must leave the localhost IP address in that file as well - just add the new one(s) below it. Sharrea -- The box said Requires Windows 95 or better so I installed Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux forwarding Windows viruses
Must you incorporate it: No Should you incorporate it? Depends on your moral obligation. Some people take the high road and say, They are running Windows. They deserve what they get. Virus's and all. Some take the low road. Some of my friends still run Windows I don't want to pass on an infection to them. Your results may vary. My personal experience is that I do not have any anti-virus on my Linux workstation. Most of the forwarded messages I get are text. I have a VMware installation of Windows 98 2K, running Norton A/V to test messages that are questionable. I've found that common sense is usually the best defense against virial infection. Chad Vogelsong -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux forwarding Windows viruses Paul M. Bucalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: My original question than stands as this: Must I incorporate anti-virus software on my Linux machine(s) to protect my Windows clients from ever mistakenly getting a virus from me? It would seem that the answer is going to have to be yes, for their sake, not mine. Do you concur, Chad? What about the rest of you? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux forwarding Windows viruses
Chad wrote: Must you incorporate it: No Should you incorporate it? Depends on your moral obligation. Some people take the high road and say, They are running Windows. They deserve what they get. Virus's and all. Some take the low road. Some of my friends still run Windows I don't want to pass on an infection to them. Your results may vary. My personal experience is that I do not have any anti-virus on my Linux workstation. Most of the forwarded messages I get are text. I have a VMware installation of Windows 98 2K, running Norton A/V to test messages that are questionable. I've found that common sense is usually the best defense against virial infection. Hear, hear! I started writing a long comment on this subject, but to save bandwidth, I put it on my journal at www.livejournal.com/users/solri Sir Robin -- There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't - thinkgeek.com Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara 06533 http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux forwarding Windows viruses
Thanks, Chad. I gathered this after reading a few comments passed my way. As a technician for others, I can't take the high road. I pretty much new the answer before asking the question, but was really curious as to how many were using any kind of anti-viral protection, and for what reasons. With a Samba server being my next need (to replace my NT 4.0 Server), I am concerned about harboring someone else's problem, let alone one I downloaded on my own. Passing it on would harm my business, for sure. Paul - Original Message - From: Chad Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux forwarding Windows viruses Must you incorporate it: No Should you incorporate it? Depends on your moral obligation. Some people take the high road and say, They are running Windows. They deserve what they get. Virus's and all. Some take the low road. Some of my friends still run Windows I don't want to pass on an infection to them. Your results may vary. My personal experience is that I do not have any anti-virus on my Linux workstation. Most of the forwarded messages I get are text. I have a VMware installation of Windows 98 2K, running Norton A/V to test messages that are questionable. I've found that common sense is usually the best defense against virial infection. Chad Vogelsong -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux forwarding Windows viruses Paul M. Bucalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: My original question than stands as this: Must I incorporate anti-virus software on my Linux machine(s) to protect my Windows clients from ever mistakenly getting a virus from me? It would seem that the answer is going to have to be yes, for their sake, not mine. Do you concur, Chad? What about the rest of you? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux virus wall
Can anyone recomend a good (Prefer Free) virus wall? Somthing like trend micros virus wall? What I need this software to do is accept email, scan it and then forward it onto the mail server if its ok. I have 2 seperate mail servers. 1 qmail and 1 exchange both on the inside of the lan. So the software cant run on the mail server it self. Any ideas? Thanks Dan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux on School Network
Hello, I'm trying to get a Mandrake Linux 8.1 server that my friend had set up running on my school's network, but unfortunately it is not getting an IP address. I've taken the network card and plugged it into my Windows box, activated it on the network, and placed it back in the server box, so I know that's not it (we're required to accept terms of use before it allows our cards to access the internet). I've also re-run the network configuration tool in the Mandrake Control Center and it still won't get an IP. Any ideas? What other information do you need to help? We don't know what else to try from here. Thanks. Brian -- He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder. -- Albert Einstein (1875-1955), German-born American theoretical physicist, theories of relativity, philosopher Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux on School Network
You need to configure the card with DHCP, to do that edit the profile file for the adapter (probebly eth0) can't remember where the file is though, somewhere like /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles/ifeth0. See if that work Flash! Flash! was here ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, 18 September 2002 3:30:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux on School Network Hello, I'm trying to get a Mandrake Linux 8.1 server that my friend had set up running on my school's network, but unfortunately it is not getting an IP address. I've taken the network card and plugged it into my Windows box, activated it on the network, and placed it back in the server box, so I know that's not it (we're required to accept terms of use before it allows our cards to access the internet). I've also re-run the network configuration tool in the Mandrake Control Center and it still won't get an IP. Any ideas? What other information do you need to help? We don't know what else to try from here. Thanks. Brian -- He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder. -- Albert Einstein (1875-1955), German-born American theoretical physicist, theories of relativity, philosopher Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux DVD player [my .02 and addt'l Q]
On Monday 12 August 2002 06:16 am, Sabin, Matthew wrote: I've installed mplayer and ogle, and have broken the ML original install of xine. All of which are supposed to be excellent DVD players. I can play .avi and .mpeg file happily with either ogle or mplayer, but they stutter when they play DVD's and ogle quickly gets out of sync -- with the sound often off be as much as 8 seconds before I quit. Anybody got any good tips for tuning a 1GB 1GHz Celeron ML 8.2 system to play DVD's without stutter or sync problems? I use ogle 0.8.2 and it plays DVDs fine on a Celeron 633. The machine also has a TNT2 video card. If I don't install the Nvidia drivers, then DVDs don't play well at all. What kind of video card do you have? And do you have accelerated drivers installed? Also, what version of ogle? The 0.8.2 release was supposed to fix the out-of-sync audio problems. -- Madness is soil in which creativity grows - Chris Bielek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux-wlan question
In regards to the following link... http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg102361.html How do you know if you kernel has PCMCIA support enabled? I'm have Mandrake 8.2 (2.4.18-6mdk) Will the linux-wlan-ng-0.1.10-RPMS work with my kernel I should I maybe download and compile a later version? - Thanks in advance, Rob B. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux DVD player
Duse any one know of a simple to install Dvd player? and if so can you give me a url. I am running Mandrake 8.2 with a Vodoo3 3500 video card. I was looking at ogal but havent had much luck with it. Thaks much David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux on RS/6000
Hi all, This is my first email to the list. I will try to be very clear. I just bought the 2 CDs Mandrake for Power PC processors, I am trying to install them in RS/6000 B50 model and none of the CDs are bootable. I think they try to use some Mac Bios function that obviously does not work with RS. I was cheking the list archive at http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/cooker-ppc/ and I found similar cases but not the definitive answer. My question is if any of you could give a reference where to start? For example, how can I build a zImage kernel with all.rdz-2.4.13-12mdkBOOT file?. Thanks in advance. Alejandro Acosta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
I'd have to argue on the point of intuitive. I just spent 2 minutes trying to paste text from one email to another. It showed in my little clip board in the bottom right but I couldn't paste it using CTRL+V or the paste command in the edit menu. I could however paste it in KEdit. Weird. Why is Ctl-V intuitive? Just because that is how Windows does it does not make it 'intuitive' It's not the keyboard commands that are intuitive. Its the fact that I can go to the edit menu and choose COPY in one application and go to another application and choose PASTE from the edit menu. I have better things to do with my time than figure out why I can't cut and paste. You can try to tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm ignorant if you'd like. I was however able to cut from Evolution and paste to KEdit using both the CTRL keys and the Edit menu commands. So was I doing it wrong or was the OS or combination of programs not intuitive enough to understand I wanted to cut and paste by using the provided commands / keyboard shortcuts? I don't want linux to work like windows. I wasn't using CTRL+V because that is what I use in Windows. I was using CTRL+V because that is what I use in Windows *AND* that is what it shows as a short-cut on the Edit menu in my *linux* software. I don't mind using different methods of completing tasks but if the commands are there I want them to work! If there is going to be a 'clipboard' I want it to work. In most cases I can retype faster than figuring out why I can't cut and paste. I'll be sure to mark your message important and try it, thanks for the tip. I do like it when my wheel is taken advantage of. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 June 2002 01:04 pm, Joshua James did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Why is Ctl-V intuitive? Just because that is how Windows does it does not make it 'intuitive' I have better things to do with my time than figure out why I can't cut and paste. You can try to tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm ignorant if you'd like. I was however able to cut from Evolution and paste to KEdit using both the CTRL keys and the Edit menu commands. i don't think he is telling you that you are ignorant, but for reference the middle button paste works in most apps and between most apps, the klipper tool on the task bar is good as a history, which once you get used to having you will love. the real point is that for various reasons paste by command (or other wise) is not always the same acrossed the board. that is not the only problem with linux. after many years use i can tell you there are in fact others. :) the good news is that the pluses out weigh the quirks and outright minuses. ...and please try to understand nobody (that i have read) feels you are ignorant or stupid for not knowing something, but do try to recall you aren't in redmond anymore toto. :) - -- If the human brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ClHMBwq+ZwvIN/oRAqHEAJ9iEDV7r0qjVK+RJuAoGKwRaqqx6wCdFkNI 6S6TpuPG0COZ8/zKPqjcO88= =dduI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here too. Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes I select something, and it picks it up, yet in order to paste it, I HAVE to go into the klipper menu and click it to get the checkmark beside it? That's inconsistent to me. And I like CTRL+V as much as the next guy. ONE clipboard would be sufficient, and one thing at a time, I think. But others digress. On Friday 14 June 2002 04:27 pm, you wrote: On Friday 14 June 2002 01:04 pm, Joshua James did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Why is Ctl-V intuitive? Just because that is how Windows does it does not make it 'intuitive' I have better things to do with my time than figure out why I can't cut and paste. You can try to tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm ignorant if you'd like. I was however able to cut from Evolution and paste to KEdit using both the CTRL keys and the Edit menu commands. i don't think he is telling you that you are ignorant, but for reference the middle button paste works in most apps and between most apps, the klipper tool on the task bar is good as a history, which once you get used to having you will love. the real point is that for various reasons paste by command (or other wise) is not always the same acrossed the board. that is not the only problem with linux. after many years use i can tell you there are in fact others. :) the good news is that the pluses out weigh the quirks and outright minuses. ...and please try to understand nobody (that i have read) feels you are ignorant or stupid for not knowing something, but do try to recall you aren't in redmond anymore toto. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
On Fri 14 Jun 2002 23:03, D. Olson wrote: Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here too. Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes I select something, and it picks it up, yet in order to paste it, I HAVE to go into the klipper menu and click it to get the checkmark beside it? That's inconsistent to me. And I like CTRL+V as much as the next guy. ONE clipboard would be sufficient, and one thing at a time, I think. Well actually part of the problem is quiet often that there are some non KDE-native apps that run perfectly well (as if they're native) but just don't collaborate as well. The solution (to a narrow mind) would be to make KDE the 'one and only' desktop and force all the others to comply or die! Now that reminds me of some other OS doesn't it? Part of freedom of choice is to be aware what the choice is. Making it all the harder though! Using the 'middle mouse button' as a substitute when CTRL C V doesn't work, just means you're using 'gpm' i.e. not using X. It works though! Hèhèhèh! Long live the commandline :o) Have fun, Harm (and as always don't get in my way:o) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
I only use CTRL+V is middle click doesn't work, which is the problem I described. On Friday 14 June 2002 05:47 pm, you wrote: On Fri 14 Jun 2002 23:03, D. Olson wrote: Whiles we're bitching about copy and paste, let me throw my anger in here too. Stupid Klipper doesn't work as expected all the time. Why is it that sometimes it doesn't pick up what I selected? And why is it that sometimes I select something, and it picks it up, yet in order to paste it, I HAVE to go into the klipper menu and click it to get the checkmark beside it? That's inconsistent to me. And I like CTRL+V as much as the next guy. ONE clipboard would be sufficient, and one thing at a time, I think. Well actually part of the problem is quiet often that there are some non KDE-native apps that run perfectly well (as if they're native) but just don't collaborate as well. The solution (to a narrow mind) would be to make KDE the 'one and only' desktop and force all the others to comply or die! Now that reminds me of some other OS doesn't it? Part of freedom of choice is to be aware what the choice is. Making it all the harder though! Using the 'middle mouse button' as a substitute when CTRL C V doesn't work, just means you're using 'gpm' i.e. not using X. It works though! Hèhèhèh! Long live the commandline :o) Have fun, Harm (and as always don't get in my way:o) ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
On Friday 14 June 2002 04:04 pm, you wrote: I'd have to argue on the point of intuitive. I just spent 2 minutes trying to paste text from one email to another. It showed in my little clip board in the bottom right but I couldn't paste it using CTRL+V or the paste command in the edit menu. I could however paste it in KEdit. Weird. Why is Ctl-V intuitive? Just because that is how Windows does it does not make it 'intuitive' and befor Ed looses his freaking mind, can we all agree that no machine can be intuitive? by definintation. it can be more or less intuitive than a realitive object but not intuitive on it's own... damn i wanted to be an english teacher, and they made me into a sniper I hate the gover scratch that... I realLLy like everyone, really It's not the keyboard commands that are intuitive. Its the fact that I can go to the edit menu and choose COPY in one application and go to another application and choose PASTE from the edit menu. I have better things to do with my time than figure out why I can't cut and paste. You can try to tell me I'm doing it wrong because I'm ignorant if you'd like. I was however able to cut from Evolution and paste to KEdit using both the CTRL keys and the Edit menu commands. So was I doing it wrong or was the OS or combination of programs not intuitive enough to understand I wanted to cut and paste by using the provided commands / keyboard shortcuts? I don't want linux to work like windows. I wasn't using CTRL+V because that is what I use in Windows. I was using CTRL+V because that is what I use in Windows *AND* that Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, shane Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, D. Olson Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, H.J.Bathoorn Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, D. Olson Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, et Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, robin [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Klemm Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Jure Repinc Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, shane Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Charlie Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Gavin Laking -- Chronological -- -- Thread -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Reply via email to Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, H.J.Bathoorn Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, D. Olson Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, et Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, robin [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Klemm Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Jure Repinc Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, shane Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Charlie Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Gavin Laking -- Chronological -- -- Thread -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Reply via email to Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, D. Olson Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, et Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, robin [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Klemm Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Jure Repinc Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, shane Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Charlie Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Gavin Laking -- Chronological -- -- Thread -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Reply via email to Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, et Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?, robin [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Klemm Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Jure Repinc Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, shane Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Charlie Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, daRcmaTTeR Re: [newbie] Some e-mail clientes, Gavin Laking Chronological -- Thread -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Reply via email to <!-- google_ad_client = "pub-7266757337600734"; google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.mail-archive.com/blank.png"; google_ad_width = 160; google_ad_height = 600; google_ad_format = "160x600_as"; google_ad_channel = "3243237953"; google_color_border = "CE9689"; google_color_bg = ["FF","ECE5DF"]; google_color_link = "006792"; google_color_url = "006792"; google_color_text = "00"; //--> Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes Sridhar Dhanapalan Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes FemmeFatale Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes Sridhar Dhanapalan [newbie] Dvorak keyb
Re: [newbie] linux, intuitive?
As someone put in their signature, the only intuitive interface is a nipple; after that, you have to learn. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux and Non-Free Software
On Saturday 08 June 2002 02:16, D. Olson wrote: However, he wasn't asking about if there was a free program (which there was and both had been mentioned already), but why a company would charge money for LINUX software... At least that's how I read it... But I guess I am the only one. I think you are correct about what he was asking. It is a natural question, I suppose, for someone new to Linux. Your point was that pay software and Linux are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and of course you are correct. Like you, I have observed that there tends to be a mentality in which Linux people tend to think everything *must* be free. Well, of course that's the goal, and it's what I prefer, but I also realize companies and developers need money to survive. You gave some great examples of how even in cases when we do pay, it is nowhere near what the price would be in the Windows world. In addition to the ones you gave, another great example is any typical boxed Linux distro. The system I can set up with a $30-80 Linux distro would cost thousands in the Windows world. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional KDE 2.2.1 KMail 1.3.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux virus
Hi, I know the likelihood of a linux virus is very (extremely) small but at Symantec there is a write up about one http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Does anyone on the list have any info on this particular virus.the method of checking on a linux system; how to be rid of it, etc? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux virus
Hey, umm we've been discussing this for a while already. Just join in our conversation. On Monday 03 June 2002 08:34 pm, you wrote: Hi, I know the likelihood of a linux virus is very (extremely) small but at Symantec there is a write up about one http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Does anyone on the list have any info on this particular virus.the method of checking on a linux system; how to be rid of it, etc? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux virus
Hi, I checked the archives'virus', 'trojan', 'simile', etc.nothing is showing up.can you give me a message header to work with here... tia, Bill W. On Monday 03 June 2002 05:51 pm, you wrote: Hey, umm we've been discussing this for a while already. Just join in our conversation. On Monday 03 June 2002 08:34 pm, you wrote: Hi, I know the likelihood of a linux virus is very (extremely) small but at Symantec there is a write up about one http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Does anyone on the list have any info on this particular virus.the method of checking on a linux system; how to be rid of it, etc? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux virus
Oh geez... Sorry... I am subscribed to both the newbie and the expert mailing lists... Heh... Sorry again. :| On Monday 03 June 2002 10:46 pm, you wrote: Hi, I checked the archives'virus', 'trojan', 'simile', etc.nothing is showing up.can you give me a message header to work with here... tia, Bill W. On Monday 03 June 2002 05:51 pm, you wrote: Hey, umm we've been discussing this for a while already. Just join in our conversation. On Monday 03 June 2002 08:34 pm, you wrote: Hi, I know the likelihood of a linux virus is very (extremely) small but at Symantec there is a write up about one http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/linux.simile.html Does anyone on the list have any info on this particular virus.the method of checking on a linux system; how to be rid of it, etc? Thanks and regards, Bill W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux server that works with MS Outlook?
i believe their is a ximian product that does what you are looking for. connector i think? http://www.ximian.com/ On Wednesday 29 May 2002 04:47 pm, Barry Michels opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Is there something available for Linux that could work as a server for a MS Outlook client? -- Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux server that works with MS Outlook?
I believe he is asking for something to use instead of Exchange that can talk to M$ Outlook. The connector would let Evolution talk to Exchange. Joe On Wed, 29 May 2002 20:12:47 -0700 shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe their is a ximian product that does what you are looking for. connector i think? http://www.ximian.com/ On Wednesday 29 May 2002 04:47 pm, Barry Michels opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Is there something available for Linux that could work as a server for a MS Outlook client? -- Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux server that works with MS Outlook?
You got it... But, I bet MS would probably *try* to keep such a thing from hitting the market... - Original Message - From: Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux server that works with MS Outlook? I believe he is asking for something to use instead of Exchange that can talk to M$ Outlook. The connector would let Evolution talk to Exchange. Joe On Wed, 29 May 2002 20:12:47 -0700 shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe their is a ximian product that does what you are looking for. connector i think? http://www.ximian.com/ On Wednesday 29 May 2002 04:47 pm, Barry Michels opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Is there something available for Linux that could work as a server for a MS Outlook client? -- Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux server that works with MS Outlook?
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 08:20 pm, Joseph Braddock did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I believe he is asking for something to use instead of Exchange that can talk to M$ Outlook. The connector would let Evolution talk to Exchange. ah, you are right of course... ...and in that case you may be out of luck. best i can say is that i know it is being worked on. example http://lwn.net/2001/1206/pr/pr4577.php3 other wise you are likely looking at several different apps used together to do the same thing, and that means the traing you don't want to do. maybe you are better pushing linux in other places first? anyone else? is this an honest hole in the linux sofware catalog? -- To live is to war with trolls -Isben shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Saturday 18 May 2002 07:03 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think XMMS can handle some kinds of streams. RealPlayer is available for GNU/Linux. CodeWeavers CrossOver Plugin (which costs money) can run Windows Media Player, RealPlayer (the Windows version), QuickTime and more. I was interested in QT. I d/l'd the Crossover demo. The stand alone qt5 player freezes my system (even run from a term, no error mesgs). The plugin works well in Galeon, but not Konqueror or Mozilla. Only (major) problem is there isn't any way to get full screen, or at least larger. My .mov's play at about 2 x 3, and that ain't gonna get it. BTW, the Crossover Windows Media Player also freezes the system. So I'm back to running qt4 from my w98blows drive usin the 'regular' Codeweavers wine. Works well, Full Scr, but the sound is garbled, and it has to be re-started to change .mov's. I (Google;) found a utility for converting .mov's to .mpg's, supposedly even the newer Sorenson codec ones, but the utility is Mac only. Guess I'm just SOL for now ;( -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Saturday 18 May 2002 11:33 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 20:39, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: Where do you find version 8? All I get is the following message: RealPlayer 8 Basic for RedHat Linux 5.x This product is not available at this time. Please go back and select an earlier product Here is the exact link to Realplayer 8 on rpmfind.net. No muss, no fuss.. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/freshrpms/misc/RealPlayer-8.0-1.i386.rp m RealPlayer-8.0-3mdk.i586.rpm is available for Club members -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Sun, 19 May 2002 10:11:10 -0500, Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 18 May 2002 07:03 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think XMMS can handle some kinds of streams. RealPlayer is available for GNU/Linux. CodeWeavers CrossOver Plugin (which costs money) can run Windows Media Player, RealPlayer (the Windows version), QuickTime and more. I was interested in QT. I d/l'd the Crossover demo. The stand alone qt5 player freezes my system (even run from a term, no error mesgs). The plugin works well in Galeon, but not Konqueror or Mozilla. Only (major) problem is there isn't any way to get full screen, or at least larger. My .mov's play at about 2 x 3, and that ain't gonna get it. BTW, the Crossover Windows Media Player also freezes the system. There is a FAQ on the CodeWeavers site that covers most of these issues. I also was burned by the system freeze problem, but the FAQ helped me fix it. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan You have no privacy. Get over it. -- Scott McNealy, CEO of Sun Microsystems Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 11:15, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 18 May 2002 11:33 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 20:39, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: Where do you find version 8? All I get is the following message: RealPlayer 8 Basic for RedHat Linux 5.x This product is not available at this time. Please go back and select an earlier product Here is the exact link to Realplayer 8 on rpmfind.net. No muss, no fuss.. ftp://ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/freshrpms/misc/RealPlayer-8.0-1.i386.rp m RealPlayer-8.0-3mdk.i586.rpm is available for Club members -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Thanks, Tom !! Guess I need to cruise the club site a little more... Going now to see if I can find it. :) LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
unless you want to emmulate a mac, change the movs to mpegs, then wine windows media player ;-) lol (h where's all those old bits and pieces of my last 10 computers.. i should be able to get a workable box outa it for this..) B'lieve me, i know the drill, doing it myself. that and having to learn perl so i can write a script for xchat or ircII to fileserve with, and this cdrom that won't work. it's driving me up the wall. (and i'm lovin' every minute of it, to tell ya the truth) Jerry - Original Message - From: Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player On Saturday 18 May 2002 07:03 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I think XMMS can handle some kinds of streams. RealPlayer is available for GNU/Linux. CodeWeavers CrossOver Plugin (which costs money) can run Windows Media Player, RealPlayer (the Windows version), QuickTime and more. I was interested in QT. I d/l'd the Crossover demo. The stand alone qt5 player freezes my system (even run from a term, no error mesgs). The plugin works well in Galeon, but not Konqueror or Mozilla. Only (major) problem is there isn't any way to get full screen, or at least larger. My .mov's play at about 2 x 3, and that ain't gonna get it. BTW, the Crossover Windows Media Player also freezes the system. So I'm back to running qt4 from my w98blows drive usin the 'regular' Codeweavers wine. Works well, Full Scr, but the sound is garbled, and it has to be re-started to change .mov's. I (Google;) found a utility for converting .mov's to .mpg's, supposedly even the newer Sorenson codec ones, but the utility is Mac only. Guess I'm just SOL for now ;( -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Thomas Beno wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 12:30, Graham Watkins wrote: Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it. -- Graham Watkins It will and I have it; however it will not decode Windows Media streams. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Does it give you a comparable list of available stations compared to Windows Media? Tom Beno Yes, it was there first. Windows came later and of course embraced then extended and is trying to extinguish RealPlayer. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Another solution is to go to www.codeweavers.com and download their Crossover plugin. The installer will automatically download and configure Windows Media Player 6.4 and configure your Browsers (Mozilla/Konqueror/Opera) to use WMP for embedded media streams. It works absolutlely great, with the added benefit of also allowing you to run Apple Quicktime, Macromedia Flash 6, Macromedia Shockwave, Microsoft Word/Excel/Powerpoint Viewers plus several other Windows applications. Crossoverplugin cost $25 or so, but the demo version is free. The only difference is the demo will cover the player with a panel every 30 seconds asking you to buy the full version. If you are only using it to play audio streams that of course is not a problem :-) derek On Saturday 18 May 2002 6:53 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 19:21, Thomas Beno wrote: I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Everyone on the list here needs to be aware that receiving Windows Media Streams is not, as of right now, an RPM plug and play deal. Xmms as it is installed on the system vanilla will not do it. You have two options, Tom. First you can go to sourceforge and download something called Avi4Xmms, and that will require you to recompile Xmms. The other thing you can do is to find a copy of Windows Media Player, version 6 or perhaps older, and try running it with Transgaming Winex or Codeweavers Wine. Transgaming is a product that's meant to handle games, but since it will handle a sophisticated entity such as a directx game it will also do many other things. One happens to be running Windows Media Player. Check out the following: http://www.transgaming.com/subscriber_benefits.php And if you are curious here is a list of games that have been tested under Winex: http://www.transgaming.com/dogamesearch.php?keywords=search=Searchworking =2order=workingshowall=1 HTH! LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Saturday 18 May 2002 01:53 am, you wrote: snip You have two options, Tom. First you can go to sourceforge and download something called Avi4Xmms, and that will require you to recompile Xmms. snip The latest version of the Crossover plugin will install the Windog media player, methinks... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Thomas Beno wrote: I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it. -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 12:30, Graham Watkins wrote: Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it. -- Graham Watkins It will and I have it; however it will not decode Windows Media streams. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Graham Watkins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">Thomas Beno wrote: I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com On the download page they ask for an OS. Which one that they list would be comparable to Mandrake Linux 8.2? Tom Beno
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 12:30, Graham Watkins wrote: Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it.-- Graham Watkins It will and I have it; however it will not decode Windows Media streams.LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Does it give you a comparable list of available stations compared to Windows Media? Tom Beno
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Thomas Beno wrote: Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com On the download page they ask for an OS. Which one that they list would be comparable to Mandrake Linux 8.2? Tom Beno You'll be wanting the UNIX version. -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On the download page they ask for an OS. Which one that they list would be comparable to Mandrake Linux 8.2? Tom Beno well if they don't have a Mdk RPM, try the RedHat one. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Thomas Beno wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 12:30, Graham Watkins wrote: Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it. -- Graham Watkins It will and I have it; however it will not decode Windows Media streams. LX Does it give you a comparable list of available stations compared to Windows Media? Tom Beno If you surf to http://realguide.real.com, you'll be able to search Real.com's database of stations - they claim to have 2,500 to choose from. How it compares to the choice on Windows Media Player, I couldn't really say as it's such a bloated memory- hungry application, which caused my system to crash when I tried to use some of its more ambitious features, that I uninstalled it PDQ, and used Realplayer instead. I did however, on one occasion, use the Windows player on someone else's computer and couldn't receive most of my favourite stations. -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
You can download realplayer 8 from the following link. http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?src=serviceandsupport You probably are looking for the red hat version (compatible with Mandrake). - Paul On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 13:05, Thomas Beno wrote: Graham Watkins wrote: Thomas Beno wrote: I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Realplayer 8 for Linux will play Internet Radio. I listen to BBC 6 Music, BBC London Live and WYYB (The Phoenix) with it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com On the download page they ask for an OS. Which one that they list would be comparable to Mandrake Linux 8.2? Tom Beno Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 17:36, Paul Rodriguez wrote: You can download realplayer 8 from the following link. http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?src=serviceandsupport You probably are looking for the red hat version (compatible with Mandrake). - Paul Where do you find version 8? All I get is the following message: RealPlayer 8 Basic for RedHat Linux 5.x This product is not available at this time. Please go back and select an earlier product Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Chuck Stuettgen said onto me: -- |On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 17:36, Paul Rodriguez wrote: | | You can download realplayer 8 from the following link. | | http://forms.real.com/real/player/blackjack.html?src=serviceandsupport | | You probably are looking for the red hat version (compatible with | Mandrake). | | - Paul | | |Where do you find version 8? All I get is the following message: | | |RealPlayer 8 Basic for RedHat Linux 5.x |This product is not available at this time. Please go back and select an |earlier product | | | | | Do a Google/Linux searchwait a minute.I'll do it.. http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html?src=rpbform just fill in the form and you're off. -- -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.5claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 07:58, David wrote: Do a Google/Linux searchwait a minute.I'll do it.. http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html?src=rpbform just fill in the form and you're off. -- -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.5claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Thanks. I was just getting ready to search Google myself. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Thomas Beno wrote: I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? I think XMMS can handle some kinds of streams. RealPlayer is available for GNU/Linux. CodeWeavers CrossOver Plugin (which costs money) can run Windows Media Player, RealPlayer (the Windows version), QuickTime and more. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan If you don't share your concepts and ideas, they end up being worthless. Sharing is what makes them powerful. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
Friday 17 May 2002 05:42 pm,daRcmaTTeR wrote: - Original Message - From: Thomas Beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Hi Tom, and welcome. you've already got it on your system. It's called XMMS. Look in the Media-sound part of your K menu. ~~~ Yeah but... Are there any good radio stations to listen to now that BBC is tubing the Ogg streams? I haven't found anything that good in terms of broadcast quality. Content on the other hand. disclaimer/addenDUM For those that become cranky over tag lines in signatures; the one displayed here is a result of a random Fortune Cookie(tm) and is in no way intended to reflect the opinions or views of anyone connected to this list, or Mandrake Soft; except ME. I ain't an employee either. :-) -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Win98 is called Win98 because 98 bugs have been added since the last version Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
- Original Message - From: Thomas Beno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Hi Tom, and welcome. you've already got it on your system. It's called XMMS. Look in the Media-sound part of your K menu. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User #186492 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux version of Windows Media Player
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 19:21, Thomas Beno wrote: I have only recently become acquainted with Linux through Mandrake-Linux 8.2. Is there a Linux version of a media player that will allow one to log onto Internet radio stations? If so, where can I go to download it? Tom Beno Everyone on the list here needs to be aware that receiving Windows Media Streams is not, as of right now, an RPM plug and play deal. Xmms as it is installed on the system vanilla will not do it. You have two options, Tom. First you can go to sourceforge and download something called Avi4Xmms, and that will require you to recompile Xmms. The other thing you can do is to find a copy of Windows Media Player, version 6 or perhaps older, and try running it with Transgaming Winex or Codeweavers Wine. Transgaming is a product that's meant to handle games, but since it will handle a sophisticated entity such as a directx game it will also do many other things. One happens to be running Windows Media Player. Check out the following: http://www.transgaming.com/subscriber_benefits.php And if you are curious here is a list of games that have been tested under Winex: http://www.transgaming.com/dogamesearch.php?keywords=search=Searchworking=2order=workingshowall=1 HTH! LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows
Yes. Not only is dual booting (having two operating systems on one computer) possible, it's common. It's a great way to see if you like Linux without making a commitment. My computers have both Windows and Mandrake 8.1, although I like Mandrake so much more that I'll be removing Windows soon. I haven't tried 8.2, but with 8.1 it's easy. Do not format your c drive; that will erase your Windows. You just boot your computer from the CD-ROM drive with the Mandrake disk 1 in the CD-ROM drive. The installer will give you the option of installing Mandrake in the empty space on your hard drive, and take care of all the details. It's easy. All you need to do beforehand is make sure you have enough free space on your hard drive. I've installed 8.1 in as little as 1 GB of free space, but I'd recommend 5 GB minimum. It will make things easier and give you plenty of room to play and get comfortable with Linux. I'd suggest deleting unnecessary files and applications from Windows, and running scandisk and disk defragmenter, before installing Linux. Welcome to Linux! Once you've tried it, you'll be back here asking how to delete Windows and make your computer Linux only. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Fri, 3 May 2002 12:52:27 +0300 (GMT+03:00) ivo ailis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently downloaded Mandrake 8.2. Before i install i want to know whether is it possible to have both windows and Linux on one computer. If so could you give me detalized step-by-step instructions...Well i am really a newbie to Linux :) Also could you give me some installation suggestions, and what i have to do after format c: (creating boot diskete and so on)... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows
Ivo, One more thing - Linux has a nice utility called diskdrake, which makes it easy to shrink your existing windows partition to make room for linux. It runs during the install process. Assuming that you are using W98, before you try to install, defrag the disk ensuring that the option to Make programs load faster is switched OFF. Having this on makes the defragger store files at the extreme ends of the partition, making it impossible for diskdrake to shrink it. I have never had a problem with shrinking partitions, but of course the caveat applies - backup all your data first! Welcome and enjoy! Brian On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 05:31, Warren Post wrote: Yes. Not only is dual booting (having two operating systems on one computer) possible, it's common. It's a great way to see if you like Linux without making a commitment. My computers have both Windows and Mandrake 8.1, although I like Mandrake so much more that I'll be removing Windows soon. I haven't tried 8.2, but with 8.1 it's easy. Do not format your c drive; that will erase your Windows. You just boot your computer from the CD-ROM drive with the Mandrake disk 1 in the CD-ROM drive. The installer will give you the option of installing Mandrake in the empty space on your hard drive, and take care of all the details. It's easy. All you need to do beforehand is make sure you have enough free space on your hard drive. I've installed 8.1 in as little as 1 GB of free space, but I'd recommend 5 GB minimum. It will make things easier and give you plenty of room to play and get comfortable with Linux. I'd suggest deleting unnecessary files and applications from Windows, and running scandisk and disk defragmenter, before installing Linux. Welcome to Linux! Once you've tried it, you'll be back here asking how to delete Windows and make your computer Linux only. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Fri, 3 May 2002 12:52:27 +0300 (GMT+03:00) ivo ailis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently downloaded Mandrake 8.2. Before i install i want to know whether is it possible to have both windows and Linux on one computer. If so could you give me detalized step-by-step instructions...Well i am really a newbie to Linux :) Also could you give me some installation suggestions, and what i have to do after format c: (creating boot diskete and so on)... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Praise
Back when i was a windows user and would use a Mac ever once in a while i would love it. Just couldn't get over how good and well though out the OS was. Well after havering been using linux for a while i played around with Mac OS X and though to my self this OS sucks. I almost bought a Mac last fall i am thankful that i didn't (i know they make linux for apple) and windows xp is the worst OS since WinME, haha. DOS was good and then i got worse and worse after that. After you use linux when you touch the mouse of a Win box or Mac box you will see just how bad they really are and it will make you appreciate the wonderful linux community for tech support and all the linux programmers. I thank each of you. Thanks Brian -- Linuxenough said! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Praise
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 02:22, Brian York wrote: Back when i was a windows user and would use a Mac ever once in a while i would love it. Just couldn't get over how good and well though out the OS was. Well after havering been using linux for a while i played around with Mac OS X and though to my self this OS sucks. I almost bought a Mac last fall i am thankful that i didn't (i know they make linux for apple) and windows xp is the worst OS since WinME, haha. DOS was good and then i got worse and worse after that. After you use linux when you touch the mouse of a Win box or Mac box you will see just how bad they really are and it will make you appreciate the wonderful linux community for tech support and all the linux programmers. I thank each of you. Thanks Brian -- Linuxenough said! Well...this sure was a nice letter. Thanks for sending it! Personally it is my wish that Mandrakesoft be successful and fruitful in their efforts. They deserve success; they've brought a top notch distribution to folks worldwide. Heck, even Robin Roblimo on Newsforge gave it a super review recently. I think that Mandrake's success would be assured if they had enough subscribers; so if you guys get the chance, plug the Mandrake subscription to your friends! And maybe even some strangers. :) L8R, LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux and Windows
I have recently downloaded Mandrake 8.2. Before i install i want to know whether is it possible to have both windows and Linux on one computer. If so could you give me detalized step-by-step instructions...Well i am really a newbie to Linux :) Also could you give me some installation suggestions, and what i have to do after format c: (creating boot diskete and so on)... Thanks.. -- http://www.one.lv - your number one mobile email service! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: [Newbie] Linux and Windows
I have recently downloaded Mandrake 8.2. Before I install I want to know whether is it possible to have both windows and Linux on one computer. If so could you give me detailed step-by-step instructions... For one, please take a look at the instructions I wrote up for installing 8.1 at http://www.acmuller.net/linux/mandrake-setup01.html As far as I can tell, there are no real differences for 8.2 in terms of the process described. Chuck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows
On Fri, 3 May 2002 12:52:27 +0300 (GMT+03:00) ivo ailis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently downloaded Mandrake 8.2. Before i install i want to know whether is it possible to have both windows and Linux on one computer. If so could you give me detalized step-by-step instructions...Well i am really a newbie to Linux :) Also could you give me some installation suggestions, and what i have to do after format c: (creating boot diskete and so on)... Thanks.. have at it Read on: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/i3boot.html use that site frequently before trying here. Its got most of the basic info you'll need to get started makes you feel less silly for asking us :) I learned that the hard way. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows
Kristjan Klementi wrote: You can try installing Linux on Win only if you have 95/98/ME... Nt and above are independent OS and do not allow that action. I'm a little confused by the above -- it may be misleading (or I may be confused): AFAIK, you can install Linux in a dual boot configuration with any version of Windows including NT and above. Perhaps this is referring to Lin4Win or something like that, which might be limited to being installed with 95/98/ME. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and Windows
On Fri, 03 May 2002 14:51:12 -0400 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kristjan Klementi wrote: You can try installing Linux on Win only if you have 95/98/ME... Nt and above are independent OS and do not allow that action. I'm a little confused by the above -- it may be misleading (or I may be confused): AFAIK, you can install Linux in a dual boot configuration with any version of Windows including NT and above. Perhaps this is referring to Lin4Win or something like that, which might be limited to being installed with 95/98/ME. Either that are the fact that diskdrake can not handle NTFS. But there are multiple 3rd party partitioning programs which can. I personally have used PM and SC to partition drives to dual boot linux with Win98, 2k, and XP. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux for Windows: lnx4win??
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:06:07 +0200 Dennis Dreesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I downloaded the ISO files: Mandrake82-cd1-inst.i586, Mandrake82-cd2-ext.i586, and Mandrake82-cd3-supp.i586 and burned them to a CD. In the installation file, it's mentioned that you can install Linux to a Windows folder, so you don't need another partition. It's ideal for a try-out, but speed decreases. However, when I use the command lnx4win, nothing happens. The folder lnx4win is missing on the CD. Is this normal? Can I find an ISO-image that does contain this folder? thanx in advance, Dennis I Cc you because my answer is so late :( On the first Mandrake CD there is a D:\INSTALL.txt file (in Windows, if the CDROM is the D drive) : 2. Installing onto Windows 95/98/ME To install MandrakeLinux within a Windows folder, avoiding any disk partitioning, you should: 1. Insert the first CD, 2. Reboot the system, 3. Press [F1] when the MandrakeLinux screen comes up, 4. Type lnx4win at the prompt, then press [Enter] Follow the instructions shown on screen. Additional details on lnx4win can be found in the appropriate readme file. .. Let us know if this fails! -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
