Meta-suggestion about conduct of discussions (was: Re: The new linux-il - a few tips to get you (re)started)
May I suggest that someone open a Web page, which will summarize the main points (both pro and con) of the discussion so far? Once such a Web page exists and is available for modifications (such as being a Wiki), we can start enforcing the netiquette of expecting people to say something only if they add something new to the discussion? This reminds me of the way my DEAF-INFO Web site got started more than 10 years ago. In a deafness related mailing list, to which I was subscribed, the same arguments were hashed again and again in endless arguments. Until one day I got tired from this and summarized the main points in a FAQ (sort of), and out of the FAQ, the Web site grew up. If such a page already exists and I am not aware of it, simply let me (and the entire list) know about it and I'll be glad to add a mention of it to my .sig in future postings to Linux-IL about this subject. On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 08:33 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Please, if we are going to be re-hashing discussions, let's try to keep them two-way by LISTENING and ADDRESSING the counter points. Otherwise, we are back at people re-stating their positions again and again in the hope that someone will magically budge. If that's what we are doing here, I'm out of the discussion and you all can just do whatever you like. -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[OFFTOPIC] IAA Performance (was: Re: israelt TV online (again))
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 10:08 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com: Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of Zimbabwe's? [citation needed] There was an article about it in the weekend supplement of Yediot Aharonot about 1 1/2 weeks ago. More recently, it was found that the landing strip in the Uvda airport (near Eilat) is crumbling and now Israel has no backup airport for big airplanes. I really thought that our safety record was alright. Note that I am unfamiliar with Zimbabwe's safety record. We were lucky so far. --- Omer -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: make question
Hello Jason, The following is what you need: -=-=-=- SOURCES = $(wildcard ../../some/other/path/*.eps) TARGETS = $(patsubst ../../some/other/path/%.eps,%_fixed.eps) all: $(TARGETS) %_fixed.eps: ../../some/other/path/%.eps [TAB] eps2eps $ $@ -=-=-=- The above works with GNU Make (I use GNU Make 3.81 in Debian Etch). DISCLAIMER: I did not actually check the above, but I use something very similar in my own Makefiles. --- Omer On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 15:21 -0500, Jason Friedman wrote: Hi all, I have had this make question that has been bugging me for a long time. I want to fix some eps files using eps2eps. This is the makefile I use: figure1_fixed.eps: figure1.eps [tab] eps2eps $ $@ (replace [tab] with the tab character) This works fine, but when I have many eps files to convert, I have to repeat the command line many times. A similar problem is this one: figure2.eps: ../../some/other/path/some_long_ugly_filename.eps After lots of googling, I have not been able to find a solution. Is there a way to do this in make, if not, can you suggest another tool that can do this? I have been running into variants of this problem several times. -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Is there a Free Software tool which already does it?
Given: 1. A text string (for example Stop!) 2. An image which displays the above text string (for example, a screen capture of a GUI button displaying the text Stop!) Does a Free Software tool, which can get the text string as input, process the image, and determine the following, already exist? 1. Background color (assume for now that it is uniform). 2. Foreground color (assume for now that it is uniform). 3. Whether the actually displayed text is the expected one. 4. Coordinates of the text origin in the image. 5. Font 6. Size 7. Style (bold/italic/unerline/strikethrough/etc.) --- Omer -- Never let beliefs, God or Gods incite war and hatred among human beings. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] date format rant (was: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Daily Maily Spam)
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 16:24 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/12/10 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like maybe someone along the chain to Dotan has mixed up American date format (MM/DD/) with the sane format (DD/MM/). I hate that format! Tbird and OOo _insist_ on using that format and it steers me wrong every time! Do American watches use a HH:SS:MM format?!? I have never heard of a middle-endian format being used in any other context! Probably remnant from the days dates were written like this: December 10, 1776. Clueless office clerks and/or EDP managers then got this converted into MM-DD-YY. The Japanese system of -MM-DD is the best one. I personally use a modified variety (-MMM-DD which is not ambiguous) whenever I am free to set the date format. --- Omer -- Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Daily Maily Spam
Encouraged by advice from few Linux-IL subscribers, I clicked on the unsubscription link provided: https://www.pac.co.il/RmvMails/[EMAIL PROTECTED]dm=DailyMaily (quoted after censoring of my actual E-mail address). I was directed to a form requesting me to fill my details - name, company, phone numbers. The field containing my E-mail address was already filled. This is a bad design - it seems that anyone can unsubscribe anyone else from the mailing list. A simpler unsubscription system would have removed my subscription request as soon as I click on the link from the E-mail message - and if the link was properly hashed, such a system would also not allow other people to unsubscribe him. When clicking on the הסירו אותי button, the unsubscription request was rejected!!! Red stars indicated that I must fill my first name and last name. Fortunately no further details (which I left empty) were required. Only after filling first name and last name fields, and clicking again on the above button, I got confirmation that my unsubscription request was accepted and will be processed within three business days. They indicate that it is possible to get further help in unsubscribing by sending E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Omer On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 23:24 +1100, Arik Baratz wrote: 2008/12/9 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Omer Zak wrote: During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them permission to continue to E-mail me. If you ever went to one of those free people Computers events, such as Go Linux, you signed an agreement to receive their publication. So it might not be my cup of tea or yours, but neither it is SPAM as the law defines it. Just unsubscribe and AFAIK they'll stop. My experience is that they stop immediately. Mine started when I gave Peli the Tiger my business card after he took my photo. I guess he subscribed me manually so I can see the result... -- Arik -- In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] Daily Maily Spam
During December (since the anti-spam law came into force), I received so far three E-mail messages from Daily Maily, without giving them permission to continue to E-mail me. Is there anyone who is organizing a group lawsuit against them? At any case, can anyone recommend a guide exactly what evidence to provide and how to sue them? Thanks, --- Omer -- In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interference with Markets (was: Re: [Haifux] Successful Windows Vista refund!!)
I would be very wary of any law, which interferes with operation of businesses. There can always be unforeseen consequences. One possible consequence comes to one's mind: Embedded system which is always sold with an operating system and applications which allow its safe operation. Then one has to define the borderline between a PC to be covered and an embedded system to be exempted. I have a better suggestion: Encourage (by getting people to demand it) providers to sell PCs with Linux, in which a VM is installed and runs a MS-Windows XP image. Such a configuration will benefit the Free Software world by making it easy to bridge between MS-Windows XP and Linux (no more having to dual-boot the PC). --- Omer On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 13:21 +0200, Dan Shimshoni wrote: I wish that there will be some serious initiative to take advantage of this precedent and to change the current status of PC/latop computer market in Israel ; I would wish that some law will be passed that would enforce ***every*** computer store in Israel to sale a PC/laptop with no OS on it, and also would enforce every advertisment of these stores to declare this option clearly. This is election time now. Maybe an Atzuma should be prepared ? maybe some parliament members will be interested in such an initiative ? Can anyone think of something ? -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interference with Markets (was: Re: [Haifux] Successful Windows Vista refund!!)
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 14:31 +0200, sara fink wrote: Encourage (by getting people to demand it) providers to sell PCs with Linux, in which a VM is installed and runs a MS-Windows XP image. VM anyone can install. Asking VM installed with windows xp image will open the door to charge extra charge for the image of XP. After all, if it's not registered image, after 30 days you can't use it anymore. You need to re- install the image. So what? 1. The seller could sell, as part of the deal, a MS-Windows XP license. 2. Not everyone has the expertise to install, configure and optimize a VM. If the seller can profit from doing this in behalf of the buyer, why not? --- Omer -- In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: silly bash scripting question
I checked the expressions, using 'echo $whatever' in my bash, whose version string is: GNU bash, version 3.1.17(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. All behaved without extra quote marks or whatever. So, Amos - please let us know which shell and version did you use for 'sh'. --- Omer On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 09:58 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I've been doing shell programming for years but this got me stomped (simplified version): rsync=/usr/bin/rsync -navHz --delete --delay-updates --bwlimit=256 -e 'ssh -i /root/rsync.id' local=/mnt/data/html/minicpan copyto=test01:$local $rsync $local/ $copyto/ When I execute this script with sh -vx the final lines are: $rsync $local/ $copyto/ + /usr/bin/rsync -navHz --delete --delay-updates --bwlimit=256 -e ''\''ssh' -i '/root/rsync.id'\''' /mnt/data/html/minicpan/ test01:/mnt/data/html/minicpan/ Missing trailing-' in remote-shell command. rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(361) [sender=3.0.4] It looks like the shell splits the value of $ssh into words and adds quoting around them. The rsync command line I'd like to see is: /usr/bin/rsync -navHz --delete --delay-updates --bwlimit=256 -e ''ssh -i /root/rsync.id'' /mnt/data/html/minicpan/ test01:/mnt/data/html/minicpan/ But whatever I tried so far playing with single quotes or back-slashes I haven't managed to make the shell do that. What am I missing? -- Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grab focus
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 00:18 +0200, Erez D wrote: hi i'm looking for a command line util which lets me change x-focus. i am running two apps with no window manager, and i want to be able to switch focus between the two by command line any idea ? OK, I'll bite even though I know of no such utility. I assume that you are using X-Window server, but without any window manager. 1. Find or develop an utility for simulating mouse events and delivering them to X-Window. Then use mouse events to change focus. 2. Find or write a very simple window manager, which knows to switch focus by commands via a FIFO, to which your command line utility writes. 3. Is it possible to write a simple application which calls XSendEvent() with suitable events? -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roll your own Window Manager (was: Re: Re: grab focus)
I googled for the above and came up with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmonad - a tiling window manager for X-Window, written in Haskell. Makes it possible to manage windows without using a mouse. http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/blog/2007/05/01 http://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/blog/2007/05/17 Those articles describe the design of the above (written in Haskell, of all languages!). Version 0.1 is 490 lines of code, so does it (with Haskell libraries) have sufficiently small memory footprint for use in Erez D's system? --- Omer On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 07:43 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: OK, I'll bite even though I know of no such utility. I assume that you are using X-Window server, but without any window manager. 1. Find or develop an utility for simulating mouse events and delivering them to X-Window. Then use mouse events to change focus. 2. Find or write a very simple window manager, which knows to switch focus by commands via a FIFO, to which your command line utility writes. 3. Is it possible to write a simple application which calls XSendEvent() with suitable events? 1 and 3 will simply not work. Without a window manager there are just two options. The X default is that the focus follows the mouse. Changing this default will lead to the focus hanging on a certain window until changed via the API. There is no mouse or keyboard sequence to tell X to switch focus to another window. This is 100% the window manager's task. As for 2, it will work, but it is probably a gross overkill. How do you intend to identify the window that is to receive focus? Do you have its Window ID? Do you want to do it by screen coordinates? If the former, RTFM the XSetInputFocus command. Aside from the overheads (opening the X session), this is a one function command, and should be fairly straight forward. Be warned, however, that it may very well not work if a window manager happens to be running, as a window manager has total veto power over any command affecting, well, windows (size, display/hide, move etc.), so if you are trying to test it with KDE or Gnome running, and it does nothing, don't despair. Try it again with no window manager. Shachar -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grab focus
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 08:27 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Erez D wrote: hi i'm looking for a command line util which lets me change x-focus. i am running two apps with no window manager, and i want to be able to switch focus between the two by command line any idea ? thanks, erez. I quickly wrote something. http://www.lingnu.com/files/xfocus-0.01.tar.gz Let me know if this works for you. At impulse, I downloaded and compiled it. The 'Usage:' path works for me. From usability point of view, the documentation (and maybe the application itself) is missing a way to find out what window handles are there now. Remember - do not ask the window manager for this information! How about having xfocus display a list of the handles of all open windows (along with some identifying information such as window title or controlling process ID - for the user to match up with more information using ps's output) when provided with no window handle argument? When done, xfocus will be cool little application! --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gspca with GeForge FX 5200 experience, anyone? (was: Re: Webcam Recommendations?)
On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 20:29 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 19:52 +0200, Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote: Any recommendations for a good webcam to use with linux? (Mainly for use with Skype) TIA, Chaim I'm using the (somewhat pricey) Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX and it works just fine. (gspca driver) Does anyone have good experience working with the gspca driver in conjunction with the nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] video card? In my system, the driver causes video applications to hang up (Linux kernel 2.6.18-6). --- Omer -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gspca with GeForge FX 5200 experience, anyone? (was: Re: Webcam Recommendations?)
I tested it only with 'nv' - never installed 'nvidia' in my PC. On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 23:25 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi Omer, Does anyone have good experience working with the gspca driver in conjunction with the nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] video card? In my system, the driver causes video applications to hang up (Linux kernel 2.6.18-6). Does the problem repeats when you're using the nv (open source) driver and not the nvidia driver? if so, I think you should report it to nvidia (they are on #nvidia channel on freenode IRC) -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gspca with GeForge FX 5200 experience, anyone? (was: Re: Webcam Recommendations?)
I don't have gspca for my current kernel (2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686) and the gspca-source package didn't compile for it (there are Debian bugs filed for it). My story with gspca and the above video card is filed as bugs with Debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=444314 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=423920 As far as I could see, no action was taken with those bugs. So I am looking for people who experienced similar hang ups to help diagnose the problem. --- Omer P.S.: Hetz's suggestion to try with the vesa driver was nice, but when configured to use vesa, the X server did not start. On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 00:37 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Well, I think you didn't install it due it closeness, if I'm right... My suggestion would be to install the closed driver and see if this problem returns. If it's not, then you should file in a bug with the X.org. If the problem still there, then it could be either the card or the camera's driver. You might also try the vesa driver to see if this problem appears, although I'm not sure if there aren't any specific parts of nv driver in vesa driver. Hetz On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tested it only with 'nv' - never installed 'nvidia' in my PC. On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 23:25 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi Omer, Does anyone have good experience working with the gspca driver in conjunction with the nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] video card? In my system, the driver causes video applications to hang up (Linux kernel 2.6.18-6). Does the problem repeats when you're using the nv (open source) driver and not the nvidia driver? if so, I think you should report it to nvidia (they are on #nvidia channel on freenode IRC) -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory of open source related companies in Israel
There used to be such a directory in http://www.vaya.org.il/wiki/ but it went away when the Wiki got vandalized. The Wayback machine has the list as it existed at January 2006 in the URL: http://web.archive.org/web/20060111221526/http://www.vaya.org.il/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Israeli_Open_Source_companies_%26_Freelancers On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 11:57 +0800, Ohad Levy wrote: Hi All, Is there such thing? Thanks, Ohad FULL DISCLOSURE: I am in middle of development of an application, which helps people use the Wayback machine to recover information from vandalized Wikis. The project could use people who need such a thing besides vaya.org.il, especially if they can sponsor it. --- Omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC][JOB] Looking for the jobless PHP programmer
Few days ago someone looked for a job for a PHP programmer, who was recently laid off. The E-mail message in question had the programmer's cellphone number. Today I was contacted by someone, who is looking for a PHP programmer. However I didn't find the aforementioned E-mail in archives - probably suppressed because of the cellphone number. If anyone has a copy of the message, can he/she forward it to me personally? P.S.: I am not 100% sure this is the right mailing list, but I cannot be the only one subscribed to both Linux-IL, Hackers-IL and PHP-Israel, so I hope this message gets to someone who can help. Thanks, --- Omer -- $ python type(type(type)) type 'type' My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
THANKS (was Re: [OFFTOPIC][JOB] Looking for the jobless PHP programmer)
Thanks, Shlomi Fish and Boaz Rymland, for forwarding me the sought for E-mail message! Turns out that the E-mail message was in the PHP-IL mailing list. On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:13 +0200, Omer Zak wrote: If anyone has a copy of the message, can he/she forward it to me personally? --- Omer -- Vote in the municipal elections today! Not voting means voting for the candidate whom you hate the most! My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?
Hello Noam, Thanks for your answer. I still need more help. On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:09 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote: I have been able to do it using: apt-get install tspc I installed it, too. verify tun works: ifconfig tun I do not have tun, but I have sit0 and sit1. Should tun exist as well? If yes, how do I find why wasn't it set up as well? According to lsmod, the following modules are loaded: - tun - sit - tunnel4 (used by sit) - ipv6 (used by sit) Am I missing anything? and ping: ipv6.google.com PING ipv6.google.com(2001:4860:0:1001::68) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=305 ms 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=494 ms 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=505 ms ^C --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4013ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 305.720/435.197/505.567/91.669 ms When I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com, I get no response. According to wireshark, ICMPv6 echo requests are sent, but there are no echo replies. I tried all 4 values of -I parameter of ping6: sit0,sit1 - no response. sit,tun - unknown iface. I tried to ping6 both ipv6.google.com and 2001:4860:0:1001::68 (with -I both sit0 and sit1) - no response. So I see two options: 1) Your firewall is blocking 2) Your NAT hinders it How to check for those possibilities? Try to play with tunnel_mode=v6anyv4 and if_tunnel_v6v4=sit1, if_tunnel_v6udpv4=tun My /etc/tsp/tspc.conf already has those settings. You can use ethereal (wireshark) to see the data being sent on port 3653 - as well as the channel being built. According to wireshark, the channel does get set up. I suspect something is strange in the output of route -6. How should it look like? My route -6 output looks like this (certain information was censored by replacing it by asterisks): 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:0::/128 :: U 25600 sit1 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:1::/128 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:1:: UC0 80 sit1 2000::/3:: U 1 00 sit1 fe80::/64 :: U 25600 eth0 fe80::/64 :: U 25600 eth1 fe80::/64 :: U 25600 sit1 ::1/128 :: U 0 78 1 lo 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:0::/128 :: U 0 01 lo fe80::/128 :: U 0 02 lo fe80::/128 :: U 0 02 lo fe80::/128 :: U 0 02 lo fe80:::/128 :: U 0 01 lo fe80:::/128 :: U 0 01 lo fe80:::/128 :: U 0 01 lo fe80::211:2fff::/128:: U 0 71 lo fe80::2c0:cff::/128 :: U 0 01 lo ff00::/8:: U 25600 eth0 ff00::/8:: U 25600 eth1 ff00::/8:: U 25600 sit1 Thanks, --- Omer -- Did you shave a yak today? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?
Hello Noam, I may not have clarified myself. Basically, when I set wireshark to listen to sit1, it captures my ping6's Echo Request packets - but no replies. I also found that there are no ppp0 or eth1 traffic corresponding to the ping6-created sit1 traffic (my PC has two Ethernet cards, and eth1 is the one which is connected to the ADSL modem; I use pptp and it creates the network device ppp0; in other words, any IPv6 traffic is supposed to pass through sit1-ppp0-eth1 and back). I did see ppp0 traffic when tspc creates a tunnel, and it indicates success in connecting to anon.freenet6.net (the IPv6 tunnel broker which I use, as it supports anonymous logins). After reading the 2008-08-25 - Configuring IPv6 using AARNet's free broker article at http://www.nick-andrew.net/ I found that my iptables firewall blocked protocol 41 packets in both input and output. On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 22:11 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote: When I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com, I get no response. According to wireshark, ICMPv6 echo requests are sent, but there are no echo replies. I tried all 4 values of -I parameter of ping6: sit0,sit1 - no response. sit,tun - unknown iface. You shouldn't see any ICMPv6 traffic! TSPC tunnels everything via IPv4/IPv4UDP, so no ICMPv6 should be visible. See my comment above. I tried to ping6 both ipv6.google.com and 2001:4860:0:1001::68 (with -I both sit0 and sit1) - no response. So I see two options: 1) Your firewall is blocking This turned out to have been the case. The following iptables commands fixed the problem (where: IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables INET_IFACE=ppp+): $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p 41 -i $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p 41 -o $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT --- Omer -- Did you shave a yak today? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUCCESS (Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?)
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:56 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi Omer, So now it works? :) YES, IT WORKS NOW! On Sunday 09 November 2008 01:04:10 Omer Zak wrote: 1) Your firewall is blocking This turned out to have been the case. The following iptables commands fixed the problem (where: IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables INET_IFACE=ppp+): $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p 41 -i $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p 41 -o $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT --- Omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?
After installation of the tspc package (version 2.1.1-6), the tspc daemon can be started and when started, it sets up the sit1 interface (which can be viewed by /sbin/ifconfig) and ping6 to the assigned IPv6 address works. Since I am reluctant to register for a channel broker, I use the anonymous login to anon.freenet6.net. The problem is that even after setting up the tunnel, attempts to ping6 IPv6 hosts (such as ipv6.google.com or www.ipv6.uni-muenster.de) yield no response. Is there anything I should do besides starting the aforementioned daemon? According to http://www.howtoforge.com/using-ipv6-on-debian-etch, I should set up also sit0 interface. What are the roles of sit0 and sit1, and why are both necessary? Is there anything I should do to get tspc to set up also sit0? --- Omer -- Did you shave a yak today? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPv6 support by ISPs - current status? (was: Re: Links and some info about IPv6 in Linux lecture in Herzelinux yesterday)
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 01:14 +0200, Rami Rosen wrote: Hello, As I promised, here are some links and some additional info about IPv6 in Linux lecture, which was given in Herzelinux yesterday (6.11.08) by me: [... snipped ...] Few subjects, which I understand were not covered by the lecture and have great practical interest: 1. What is the status of IPv6 by your ISP, by your Web hosting service, by your E-mail provider? 2. Is it feasible TODAY to switch all your home/office network and its Internet connections to IPv6 and drop altogether any IPv4 use? If not, why? 3. What (if any) tunneling services are available if you want to access IPv6-only resources in the open Internet? -- Did you shave a yak today? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How not to enter an ID number when it's irrelevant (was: Re: Problem with navigate function in Firefox)
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 17:17 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Friday 31 October 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/10/31 David Ronkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The site is: http://www.bezeqint.net/JobView.aspx?cc=01040504id=1482 I wrote them - but it only helps when many people do that. I still will be glad if anyone has some faster solution . I will write to them, that is quite the reason that I asked! I'd like to write to them too. But the contact form here: http://www.bezeqint.net/contactus.html Requires one to enter the I.D Number which I'm reluctant to do. You can try to enter all-zeroes ID number. I did this in another Web site (I don't remember which), in which the ID number was obviously irrelevant to my query. I routinely employ similar tactics when a Web site demands my phone number (I have only a FAX number). --- Omer -- Did you shave a yak today? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection
I think that Dov's idea is good one, and I'd be happy to see an implementation of his idea. Questions, whose answers require experimentation and tweaking: 1. Do we display sources and sinks over all the document or only at the ends of the span, in which the cursor is now? 2. Do we display them all the time (toggled by the user in the same way spaces are explicitly displayed in some wordprocessors, by displaying small dots instead of spaces), or only when the user tries to select text (i.e. automatically)? And if automatically, how do we deal with text displacement when sources and sinks show up/disappear? 3. Is this enough to make it easy to select text, or do we need also to temporarily display text in logical-only ordering (see previous discussion below)? --- Omer On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 09:20 +0200, Dov Grobgeld wrote: Sorry to join the discussion so late, but I have an idea that I believe would make both selection and caret position easier for the user in a BiDi context. The idea is to visually display the points of direction discontinuity. I like to call these a source when the two directions diverge, and a sink when the two direction converges. Heres an example: Logical: abcABCabc Visual with sources and sinks displayed: abc||CBA||abc where || is a glyph indicating a sink point and a || is a glyph indicating a source point. If a source and a sink meet they cancel out. The user may now easily place the caret at the left or the right side of the source and the sink points, which today is very difficult to do. I hope to create a concept implementation one day. I'd be happy to hear comments about this idea. Regards, Dov 2008/10/7 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Jonathan, I think I begin to understand what you are trying to accomplish. It is indeed difficult to precisely select a text segment when there are several spans of different directionality properties (LTR/RTL, strong/weak, overrides, etc.) at its borders. There are several possibilities for improving the selection GUI lookfeel in this case: 1. Turn off BiDi ordering for the entire file (useful by itself for blind computer users; not directly related to our problem). 2. Manually turn off BiDi ordering for a text segment (say, a paragraph) and then manually turn it back on. 3. Use the metaphor of using one hand to straighten out a piece of paper when writing using the second hand (or straightening a piece of cloth while doing needlework): turn off BiDi ordering 5 glyphs before and 5 glyphs after the mouse position (as the mouse moves, we suppress ordering of differing glyphs). Have them displayed with background having different color. (The exact numbers are to be determined by usability tests, and be user-configurable through a setup menu. So is the background color to be used in this case.) 4. Have a small pop-up window, which displays the text around the mouse without BiDi ordering and let the user guide his mouse actions using the pop-up display. The regular text display would be unchanged. It would be nice to get Arabic speakers to be involved in this, as Arabic presents a special problem - probably unreadable when the order of glyphs is reversed without additional processing. Hebrew and Latin, in contrast, are still somewhat readable even in reverse direction. --- Omer On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:36 +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Omer Zak wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:23:32 +0200 From: Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection From the discussion below, I understand that Shachar and me use the same definition of visual selection. You drag the mouse from column X to column Y in the same row of the display, and get whatever text which happens to be displayed between those columns (the text could have been from different spans of the corresponding original text - logical text). We agree on the meaning of visual selection. Jonathan, can you clarify if you mean the same thing, or whether you really meant temporarily turn off BiDi ordering for a selected text segment
Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection
From the discussion below, I understand that Shachar and me use the same definition of visual selection. You drag the mouse from column X to column Y in the same row of the display, and get whatever text which happens to be displayed between those columns (the text could have been from different spans of the corresponding original text - logical text). Jonathan, can you clarify if you mean the same thing, or whether you really meant temporarily turn off BiDi ordering for a selected text segment and display it? --- Omer On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:09 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Right, that's what the qualifier in effect means. Visual selection, to me, means selecting text from a continuous block of visually ordered text. If the text is not visually ordered then the selection cannot be considered visual. I conceded that definitions may vary. I agree with Omer that visual selection does not seem all that useful to me. I am at a loss to think of what use to the end user a selection containing the end of the Hebrew part of a sentence followed by the end of the English part of the sentence is going to be. Same goes for the beginnings of the sentences combined. -- One cannot argue with a Bayesian filter. Peter Lorand Peres My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection
Hello Jonathan, I think I begin to understand what you are trying to accomplish. It is indeed difficult to precisely select a text segment when there are several spans of different directionality properties (LTR/RTL, strong/weak, overrides, etc.) at its borders. There are several possibilities for improving the selection GUI lookfeel in this case: 1. Turn off BiDi ordering for the entire file (useful by itself for blind computer users; not directly related to our problem). 2. Manually turn off BiDi ordering for a text segment (say, a paragraph) and then manually turn it back on. 3. Use the metaphor of using one hand to straighten out a piece of paper when writing using the second hand (or straightening a piece of cloth while doing needlework): turn off BiDi ordering 5 glyphs before and 5 glyphs after the mouse position (as the mouse moves, we suppress ordering of differing glyphs). Have them displayed with background having different color. (The exact numbers are to be determined by usability tests, and be user-configurable through a setup menu. So is the background color to be used in this case.) 4. Have a small pop-up window, which displays the text around the mouse without BiDi ordering and let the user guide his mouse actions using the pop-up display. The regular text display would be unchanged. It would be nice to get Arabic speakers to be involved in this, as Arabic presents a special problem - probably unreadable when the order of glyphs is reversed without additional processing. Hebrew and Latin, in contrast, are still somewhat readable even in reverse direction. --- Omer On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:36 +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Omer Zak wrote: Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:23:32 +0200 From: Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection From the discussion below, I understand that Shachar and me use the same definition of visual selection. You drag the mouse from column X to column Y in the same row of the display, and get whatever text which happens to be displayed between those columns (the text could have been from different spans of the corresponding original text - logical text). We agree on the meaning of visual selection. Jonathan, can you clarify if you mean the same thing, or whether you really meant temporarily turn off BiDi ordering for a selected text segment and display it? No, we mean temporaroly turn off bidi re-ordering for a text, do a logical selection (which is now the same as visual selection) of some subset and then revert the display of the whole text back to bidi ordering. Selected text wold be always be displayed in the same ordering as the unselected text. - yba --- Omer On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:09 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Right, that's what the qualifier in effect means. Visual selection, to me, means selecting text from a continuous block of visually ordered text. If the text is not visually ordered then the selection cannot be considered visual. I conceded that definitions may vary. I agree with Omer that visual selection does not seem all that useful to me. I am at a loss to think of what use to the end user a selection containing the end of the Hebrew part of a sentence followed by the end of the English part of the sentence is going to be. Same goes for the beginnings of the sentences combined. -- 42 is the answer to everything. Food is the answer to everything except obesity. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 14:29 +0200, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: I have some contacts with Arabic experts, and I can tell you that for their market, showing unshaped (improperly connected) letters, even in proper ordering, is considered unacceptable. All the more with LTR ordering. Then a possible solution is to force all relevant text to RTL ordering when there are more than 1-2 Arabic glyphs in the selection. Thus, the Arabs will be allowed to rule over the world in this case. -- Jara Cimrman. A name to remember. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection
Hello Jonathan, I think that visual caret motion with logical selection is the best approach. I do not see visual selection as an useful feature at all (at least if it means what I understand it to mean). If anything needs to be improved, then add, as a feature, a mode to turn off BiDi ordering in the visual display of a text fragment. This will make easier the lives of people, who edit text, which mixes together several RTL and LTR spans together with plethora of punctuation marks. Another audience for such a feature is blind computer users, who wish to edit text in Hebrew. They read it LTR in Braille, and would like to suppress the BiDi algorithm for such text. Therefore, they need to turn off BiDi ordering for a whole file. About the best way to implement such a feature (how to activate/deactivate) and whether the text is to be displayed in-line or in another window - I'm deferring to other people to make suggestions. --- Omer On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 18:50 +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: What happened to ivrix.org.il? Java Swing supports visual caret motion but logical selection. The engineering decision for selection was based on technical realities (read budget) rather than what was best for the bidi user. The asymmetry of the situation never sat well with Brian Beck however. There is a chance to change this in JavaFX, if it is perceived as adding significant value. Is visual selection implemented in any bidi text editor? How much of an improvement would it be to implement visual text selection in OpenOffice, in JavaFX? Would this be a killer feature to add to Hebrew OOo? -- 42 is the answer to everything. Food is the answer to everything except obesity. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [YBA] Logical VS Visual Text Selection
Another point which I forgot to mention in my previous E-mail about the subject: I urge everyone to consider carefully changes in the look and feel in this area. Especially if Brian Beck is not a regular Hebrew user. I still remember the debacle in one of the versions of AbiWord few years ago. One day, someone with good intentions implemented a feature in AbiWord, which caused Hebrew letters at word ends to automatically assume their final form, if they had any - like in Arabic. The problem was that unlike Arabic, in Hebrew there are cases in which one wants to leave a letter in word's end at its non-final form (for example, in acronyms). Due to this, the feature ironically rendered that particular version of AbiWord unusable for Hebrew wordprocessing. After outcry, the feature was removed. The feature implementor did not take into account the fact that in Hebrew, the 5 final form letters have their own code points and their own keys in the keyboard and people are already used to type them at word ends. Unlike Jonathan (who at least asked us), the guy (whom I'm leaving unnamed) sinned in not first asking actual Hebrew users about the potential utility of the feature. --- Omer On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 19:13 +0200, Omer Zak wrote: Hello Jonathan, I think that visual caret motion with logical selection is the best approach. I do not see visual selection as an useful feature at all (at least if it means what I understand it to mean). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox chokes on YNET
I noticed similar phenomenon with the same version of Firefox (technically, Iceweasel) on Debian Etch - but with http://news.walla.co.il/ Firefox chokes and crashes if I open more than 2 or so tabs on the above Web site. --- Omer On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 07:44 +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date. When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this and/or any solutions? BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any connection. -- My 25 year old Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory; and its display device is grievously short of pixels. Can anyone help? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for recommendations for image processing/analysis program
DISCLAIMER: the following is based upon my very incomplete understanding of David's needs. You may want to look into ImageMagick and netpbm. If you need/want to implement your own image processing algorithms, and if you use Debian Etch, then the source code of netpbm, with libnetpbm10/libnetpbm10-dev, can help you develop your custom netpbm programs. --- Omer On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 11:40 +0300, David Harel wrote: Greetings, I would like some guidance regarding a software solution that can receive a frame taken from a video camera, manipulate it according to a given set of parameters such as hue, contrast and such and then be able to:identify objects (say according to various color/shape/size patterns) and provide their location. -- 42 is the answer to everything. Food is the answer to everything except obesity. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Financing for Wine BiDi (was: Re: MSO in Wine: Hebrew backwards.)
Shachar, On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 08:06 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: IMHO this is the kind of thing that the Chief Scientist's Office would fund. Hmm. [...snipped...] We all know that 10K is hardly enough to achieve much on Wine, and we all also know that getting the community to put in 10K is extremely hard. At the moment, for example, the sum total raised, despite numerous complaints about the matter, totals in a round zero. So, no, I don't think the CS is a very likely venue. How about publicizing in Linux-IL the budget needed to fix Wine BiDi in terms of money, equipment and human resources? (I actually laughed when I saw the mention of the total raised so far, without mention of the amount which should be raised.) Can we also see a project plan, which will let us know where can we chip in? And if I am at that, can you also publicize an estimate (should be lower) of the effort (money+human resources) needed to prepare the Wine BiDi project for execution by a group of students in GSoC of 2009? --- Omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Financing for Wine BiDi
So the budget is 1.25 months of work for fields 1,2, unknown for fields 3,4,5. Given the numbers, fields 1,2 would cost about 19K NIS. Assuming that 3,4,5 need 2.75 months of work, the total budget is 60K NIS (not including Lingnu's own contribution in terms of reduced prices). I assume that it hugely underestimates the effort required in 4,5. One way to raise the money is to identify 600 Linux users, who would like to use Wine BiDi, and it is worth 100NIS at least for each of them, and get 100NIS from each of them. Since I somehow managed to lead totally MS-free life, I don't use Wine so I'm not counted among those 600. Are there Israeli companies, which deploy Linux solutions, and for which it is worthwhile to avoid dual-booting or virtual machines yet support clients, who still have legacy MS-Windows applications? If yes, it may make sense to organize them into a consortium for supporting Wine BiDi work. About GSoC: this is why I asked about the budget for preparing the project for GSoC - it has to be split into student-size bites and probably there are also other preparations as well. --- Omer On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:56 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: How about publicizing in Linux-IL the budget needed to fix Wine BiDi in terms of money, equipment and human resources? These are rough estimates. Wine needs the following fields worked on: 1. Move the BiDI code into Uniscribe, where it is on Windows 2. Handle keyboard input language detection (essentially - rewrite Wine's input processing - some of it already done) 3. Start fixing the small bugs 4. Implement a BiDi edit control 5. Implement a BiDi rich edit control Lingnu is willing to chip in on such work, so the base for calculating costs is 15Knis/month. Anyone contacting me for work on unrelated projects should not expect those prices! 15K + employment overhead translates to 110NIS/hour + VAT. Lets make it a round 125 sheqels/hour with VAT. 1. Move the infrastructure to where it belongs, split the BiDi algorithm down to the components it has with Uniscribe, make sure it works as is, implement a glue library (called LPK.DLL on Windows) to resolve circular dependencies, and hook the functions back into where they are scattered (GDI32.DLL, Advapi32.dll etc.): about a month of work. 2. This is essential to get MSO working. A lot of the basic work is done. You can find it attached to bug #735. Still quite a bit of work getting it back into a state where it is commit ready. Lets mark it down as a week's worth of work, though it might take more 3. These are small bugs. None of them is too big in and on its own, but they do require getting 1 above resolved before they can be approached. 4. Unable to tell at this stage 5. Same as 4, only worse :-) As for getting it done with GSoC, I tried it this year, and people said it was too big a task. Oh well Shachar -- By running MS-Windows XP on your PC, you are probably a multi-zombie. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Financing for Wine BiDi
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 14:28 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/9/4 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Omer Zak wrote: Are there Israeli companies, which deploy Linux solutions, and for which it is worthwhile to avoid dual-booting or virtual machines yet support clients, who still have legacy MS-Windows applications? Yes and no. No, no such company will pick up the price tag on its own. Yes, if the infrastructure work is done, the remaining part would be economical for companies. It's a case of putting money to, potentially, get some back. Shachar What order of magnitude are we looking at? It is very hard to state someone needs to come up with X shekels / euros / dollars without knowing whereabout X lies. See one of my previous E-mail messages. We are looking at 60K NIS. If we can round up a group of companies with total of 600 potential Wine users, then this should be doable - with 100NIS/head, the companies would save costs of dual-booting, VM deployments and licenses on extra copies of MS-Windows XP that they'd otherwise need. --- Omer -- By running MS-Windows XP on your PC, you are probably a multi-zombie. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Financing for Wine BiDi
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:14 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/9/4 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See one of my previous E-mail messages. We are looking at 60K NIS. If we can round up a group of companies with total of 600 potential Wine users, then this should be doable - with 100NIS/head, the companies would save costs of dual-booting, VM deployments and licenses on extra copies of MS-Windows XP that they'd otherwise need. --- Omer Thanks, Omer. I'll sign up for the first four spots: me, the wife, the daughter, and another on the way. Only if you are willing to fork over 400NIS. I do not see families of private people donating more than 100NIS per family, regardless of number of users. Shachar (Lingnu CEO): can you open a PayPal account (or equivalent) to collect money from private people? Or do you have another mechanism to deal with, say, 300 small payments? Shachar (Hamakor chairman): are there any tax advantages in getting Hamakor to handle this, and work out any conflict of interest issues? Shachar (again, Lingnu CEO): seems that we might pull this off - so we need more realistic estimates of the project cost. What budget do you need to cover the cost of reviewing bugs, edit control development and RTF edit control development? With this figure, we can plan on 2-stage project, each stage to be budgetted separately: stage 1 - plan the project and make estimates. stage 2 - actually execute. If the output of stage 1 is made publicly available, then maybe parts of stage 2 can be performed by outside volunteers with their own sources of funding. That's another 596 heads to find. I will be sure to drop hints wherever I can. Yes, it would help. Both Google and MS have a presence in Israel. If I were to write to Google suggesting that it might be in their interests to at least partially sponsor the project, to where would I direct them for further information? Shoshana Forbes, being a Google insider, is the first name which comes to my mind. Of course, we are speaking about sponsorship under a plan different from GSoC. --- Omer -- By running MS-Windows XP on your PC, you are probably a multi-zombie. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ( Marked As Spam ) Re: Financing for Wine BiDi
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:26 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: Shachar (Lingnu CEO): can you open a PayPal account (or equivalent) to collect money from private people? Or do you have another mechanism to deal with, say, 300 small payments? PayPal is fine. The main problem is what happens if too few people say I will? How do you deal with returning everyone's money? There is also the bitch of issuing invoices to everyone involved - not a trivial task! 1. In the following, you outlined possible stages for the project - bug fixes; edit control (non-RTF). In this staged approach, you can start the next stage once there are enough funds for the stage. Also, in the PayPal donation page you can state that unused funds will go to Hamakor to fund other projects. 2. Assuming that not everyone wants or needs a paper invoice, you could just print the invoices but actually send them only to those who request them. Shachar (again, Lingnu CEO): seems that we might pull this off - so we need more realistic estimates of the project cost. What budget do you need to cover the cost of reviewing bugs, edit control development and RTF edit control development? I think we should leave RTF out of it right now. It does not add much to the end user experience, and is probably a pain to implement. Nevertheless, I suggest to plan also this. If people still want it, they'll fund also this part of the project. As for edit - I'm supposed to be working on a project for ISOC that will implement a BiDi edit control (not in Wine), and hopfully, once that project is done, there will be enough reusable code to reduce the cost of this element. At the moment, it is hard to estimate. Make a worst case estimate (if you can't reuse the ISOC code). Please note that even without edit control, even just with #2 support, MSO will work. With this figure, we can plan on 2-stage project, each stage to be budgetted separately: stage 1 - plan the project and make estimates. stage 2 - actually execute. If the output of stage 1 is made publicly available, then maybe parts of stage 2 can be performed by outside volunteers with their own sources of funding. No problem with that. At the moment, the tasks are not really divisable. Once #1 and #2 are done, hopefully, that will improve. OK. So now we need to raise 19K NIS to get #1, #2 done. And then we'll know what will be the cost estimate for #3, #4 and optionally #5. Is this the situation? I suggest that people and corporations donate 35NIS/seat for #1,#2 and put aside additional 85NIS/seat for #3,#4,#5. (I took into account 10NIS per transaction to cover administrative costs.) I do not see myself as a Wine user, but to put some money where my big mouth is, I'll donate 35NIS once there is a way to donate to this project (without putting aside the additional 85NIS). --- Omer -- By running MS-Windows XP on your PC, you are probably a multi-zombie. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Accessibility Presentation (forwarded from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list)
The full link to a low resolution OGG format is: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2008/fosdem/ogg_theora/384x288/How_accessible_is_Debian___Samuel_Thibault.ogg NOTE: It is lacking captions (I already notified the lecturer), but according what I saw from the presentation, the lecture should be a good one. --- Omer Forwarded Message From: Samuel Thibault [EMAIL PROTECTED] [... snipped ...] Maybe it would be interesting to give the URL to the fosdem presentation I made? How accessible is Debian? http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2008/fosdem/ 30 minutes, yes, the first minute is blank [... snipped ...] -- My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small victories, but more work to be done
Hello Dotan, Recently, there was a long thread about this subject in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. The problematic pages is the HOT broadcasts schedule page and the page for contacting them: http://www.hot.net.il/EPG/Templates/EPGTimeline/EPGTimeline.aspx http://www.hot.net.il/HOT.aspx?FolderID=2120〈=he --- Omer On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 03:45 -0700, Valery Reznic wrote: Hi, Dotan. If you know of other Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox or Linux, please mention them and I will contact them. Thanks! Ben Gurion Airport site not work in the FF (at least on Linux) http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/Templates/InsidePages/OnlineFlightsTemplate.aspx?NRMODE=PublishedNRORIGINALURL=%2fRashat%2fen-US%2fAirports%2fBenGurion%2finformationForTravelers%2fOnlineFlights%2easpx%3fflightsType%3ddepNRNODEGUID=%7bB2D883F7-7E57-48F9-A6AF-001AD3758E05%7dNRCACHEHINT=GuestAdvanced=1 I can select nothing here: Comapny, Contry, City Airport. Valery --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you know of other Israeli websites that do not work in Firefox or Linux, please mention them and I will contact them. Thanks! To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When to boycott hardware only partially supported by Linux? (Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?)
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 15:07 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/8/26 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amos presumably needs a working solution TODAY. Promises for bright Not TODAY, YESTERDAY. [... snipped ...] You pretty much nailed it, just like in the other mailing list I asked this question on - nVidia it is, with all the sympathy for ATI's FOSS support. Great, just great. So while considering all the apathy hang-vidia shows towards open-source, their crappy BLOBs, and they dropping support from older cards, and not releasing specs, etc. - you're still supporting them with your wallet. How do you expect hardware vendors to ever play nicely with open-source operating systems, if even Linux users still buy their products despite their general apathy towards us? I use (relatively) low-end nVidia graphic cards, with the Free 'nv' driver (rather than their proprietary driver). According to the way Amos described his people's needs, the 'nv' driver is enough for their needs. What Amos is voting against with his employer's wallet (if he follows through this plan) is against high-end graphic cards and those features, which require proprietary drivers. For the (relatively) low-end graphic market, nVidia is effectively Free. So, the real problem is with people like you, who are too pragmatist on their free software ideals, and still support companies like nVidia. I personally am not going to buy a product that's not properly supported under Linux, just so I can be sure I'm not supporting such abusive companies with my wallet. Amos' people's display needs are properly supported under Linux using only Free drivers (assuming that my recommendation passes his evaluation). It is an interesting philosophical discussion (which properly belongs to another Linux-IL thread) whether buying a product with features A+B, for use which needs only feature A, and such that feature B is supported only by proprietary software - is a violation of boycott against hardware which is not supported by Free Software. By the way, I still remember the days in which ATI were anti Free Software, and I even signed a petition about this issue. --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:56 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Amos Shapira wrote: Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should go with nVidia, AMD or maybe Intel? Any specific card families/models? [... snipped ...] * My second choice today would be ATI cards: 1. As someone else mentioned older (e.g: r300) chipsets have pretty good support in the FOSS driver (including simple 3D, compiz etc.) 2. AMD/ATI released hardware specs last year and started cooperating with FOSS community, which is significant for the newer cards (http://www.x.org/docs/AMD) 3. Because of (2.), there is better support for modern cards on the pipe. Specifically, David Airlie (one of X.org developers from Red Hat) already announced not long ago about major improvements in r500/r600 chipsets. This is bleeding edge source in his git repository, but it is reasonable to expect this code to land within 6-12 months in fast paced distros (Debian testing, Fedora, etc.) Sorry, but the 2nd and 3rd reasons to choose ATI exist in the future rather than today. If Amos Shapira can wait a year, then let him buy ATI a year from now. But if he needs a solution today, then several of the above promises are not relevant for him. --- Omer -- Never let beliefs, God or Gods incite war and hatred among human beings. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 00:16 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Omer Zak wrote:
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 19:56 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
On Monday, 25 בAugust 2008, Amos Shapira wrote:
Since there are always swings around about best linux support which
I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should go with nVidia,
AMD or maybe Intel? Any specific card families/models?
[... snipped ...]
* My second choice today would be ATI cards:
1. As someone else mentioned older (e.g: r300) chipsets have
pretty good support in the FOSS driver (including
simple 3D, compiz etc.)
2. AMD/ATI released hardware specs last year and started
cooperating with FOSS community, which is significant for
the newer cards (http://www.x.org/docs/AMD)
3. Because of (2.), there is better support for modern cards
on the pipe. Specifically, David Airlie (one of X.org developers
from Red Hat) already announced not long ago about major
improvements in r500/r600 chipsets. This is bleeding edge
source in his git repository, but it is reasonable to expect
this code to land within 6-12 months in fast paced distros
(Debian testing, Fedora, etc.)
Sorry, but the 2nd and 3rd reasons to choose ATI exist in the future
rather than today.
If Amos Shapira can wait a year, then let him buy ATI a year from now.
But if he needs a solution today, then several of the above promises are
not relevant for him.
Bzzt. You oversimplify:
* Scenario I:
- Let's assume Amos buys today an old ATI (r300/r400 based)
because he cannot wait.
- He gets reasonable 3D today (One of my Pentiums began
doing compiz a year ago, after a regular update [ATI 9100IGP]).
- Items {2,3} *still* apply, because some of the future
updates would improve even those old cards. For example,
some of the updates Airlie work on, involve adding kernel
modesetting support for the old r300/r400 as well.
(this would help in monitor hotplugging, xrandr, etc.)
* Scenario II:
- Amos buys today an ATI r500/r600 cards.
- Can use FOSS drivers today (no 3D acceleration etc.)
- Or can use proprietary drivers today.
- But because of items {2,3} he would get an *improved*
FOSS drivers within the next year (cleanup, release engineering,
distribution roll out).
Amos presumably needs a working solution TODAY. Promises for bright
future are irrelevant.
If he chooses ATI cards, he should use only 1st reason to justify his
choice. This reason may well be enough to make the justification.
So with ATI we have an installment plan (Tashlumim)
in two steps:
* Get working (but limited) solution today (either old
cards or proprietary drivers or no 3D acceleration)
* Get better support for the *same* hardware on the
next upgrade of your distro.
Plans of mice and men always change. ATI might fold 8 months from now,
or be taken over by nVidia and have its product lines discontinued, or
switch to solar powered 3D holographic displays.
Where's the second step for nVidia cards?
If they are cheap enough, then the following plan would make economic
sense:
1. Buy today the cheap nVidia cards (such as GeForce FX 5200, which I
chose because of its low price).
2. A year from now, ATI releases its gee whiz drivers. Buy top of line
ATI cards to work with those drivers. Their price will be lower than
the price you'd pay if you bought today the ATI cards.
3. Remove the cheap nVidia cards and have them recycled, or donate them
to one of the Linux based school computer labs.
The difference in price of the ATI cards will cover the cost of the
nVidia cards.
Caveat: the above would work unless Amos's people need to develop custom
graphic software which works only with one type of graphic cards.
--- Omer
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Re: Preferred video card for Linux dual-head?
In my PC I have two nVidia GeForce FX 5200 video cards. One with AGP form factor, and the other - with PCI form factor. This was the cheapest way to add a second display to my PC, and worked because my PC had unused PCI slots. Software: Debian Etch, with Xorg version 7.1.0-19. The driver being used is 'nv', for both video cards. The following /etc/X11/xorg.conf section specifies how both screens are combined. Section ServerLayout Identifier DualHead Default Layout Screen 2nd Screen RightOf Default Screen Screen Default Screen Option Xinerama InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection I hope this helps. --- Omer On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 08:51 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, My boss bought second-hand extra monitors for all of us and I now need to buy graphics cards which can support dual-head for Debian/Ubuntu (and Windows XP and Vista). Since there are always swings around about best linux support which I didn't follow, what's the order of the day? Should go with nVidia, AMD or maybe Intel? Any specific card families/models? The computers are a mix of older (2-3 years?) to new (2 months old), so the system bus might be a bit limited too. I don't need to run games or anything too fancy - just plain programming/surfing and remote desktop, though support for Compiz would be a nice bonus. -- MCSE - acronym for Minesweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert. (Unknown) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: global interactive search-and-replace in bash?
I sometimes encounter similar situations, and my answer to the question is that it is easier to remember the command and reconstruct it than to remember what name I gave to the script running the command with my supplied arguments. (Reminds me of Richard Feynman's approach for remembering theorems - by deriving the proof each time a theorem is needed.) Maybe the right approach would be to have a script which collects together all those one-liners and lets you choose one and supply arguments. Such a script would use 'dialog', 'whiptail' or 'zenity' to prompt the user. (Personally, I found 'dialog' to be more convenient than the other two tools.) --- Omer On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 10:54 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, I have this long command line which I keep changing multiple instances of host names in it: I know this isn't answering your question, but still: If you keep using the same command line, why don't you script it? -- Eli Marmor's Law: netiquette forbids people from replying I agree with you to messages in mailing lists, skewing discussions in favor of the troublemaker type of dissenters. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux related spam?! [Fwd: בואו להיות מומחי לינוקס]
Does anyone know anything about the following spammer? According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by: descr:yaron berenholtz adv descr:12 menahem begin st' descr:ramat gan descr:52521 descr:Israel phone:+972 3 6122111 fax-no: +972 3 6122119 e-mail: yaron.be AT gmail.com And the domain has been registered at 2008 Jan 15. --- Omer Forwarded Message From: Penguin IT Training Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mail.penguin-it.co.il Subject: ×××× ××××ת ××××× ××× ×קס Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:18:23 GMT ×פר××× × ×ספ×× ×ק××ת ת××× ×ת ××××××× ×××¥/× ××× ×× ×תקשר/× : 054-6789954, 077-7006751 ×¤× ××× ×××××××:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ××××× ×××× ×רצ×× × ×ק×× ××××¢ ×ס×× ××, ש××/× ×××× × [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux related spam?! [Fwd: בואו להיות מומחי לינוקס]
I received also a personal E-mail message from Doron Ofek with about the same actual information and an (unneeded, because the spammer was not him personally - but a nice gesture nevertheless) apology. Can anyone with journalistic leanings pick up the story and publicize it in a place like whatsup? My goal, in proposing this, is for this to serve as a lesson for people, who might consider spamming in the future. --- Omer On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 14:18 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: Does anyone know anything about the following spammer? According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by: descr:yaron berenholtz adv descr:12 menahem begin st' descr:ramat gan descr:52521 descr:Israel phone:+972 3 6122111 fax-no: +972 3 6122119 e-mail: yaron.be AT gmail.com And the domain has been registered at 2008 Jan 15. --- Omer penguin-it used to be Doron Ofek's company. After a chain of events I have to admit I have not gotten to the bottom of, this seems to no longer be the case. Shachar -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Hebrew] Re: הסרתך מרשימת תפוצה
שלום פבלו, א. אני חרש. ב. במקום לחפש אותי בטלפון, פשוט תסיר אותי מרשימת התפוצה - ברור לך מהתכתובת שאני מתייחס לפרסומיכם כאל דואר זבל. ג. ודאי ידוע לך שההזמנה לפנות לצורך הסרה מרשימות תפוצה של דואר זבל אינה יכולה להתקבל ברצינות, לאור העובדה שרבים מהזבלנים מנצלים פניות כאלה לרעה. לכן התרופה היחידה היא מלכתחילה לא להפיץ דואר זבל. ד. בקשר להאשמותיך כלפי גורמים אחרים שעובדים עם זבלנים - גם אם הן נכונות, אין הדבר פוטר אותך מהחובה להמנע מלזבל בעצמך. ה. ודאי ידוע לך, מההתכתבויות שמהן קצרתם את כתובת הדואל שלי לרשימות התפוצה שלכם שמשמשות אותכם למשלוח דואר זבל, שאני מחייב כל מי ששולח לי דואר זבל בתשלום פיצוי (שערכו כיום 2800 שח). אם לא זכור לך, ראה ב: http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html אם ברצונך לנקות את האווירה, אני ממליץ שהפיצוי ישולם בצורת תרומה למוסדות הבאים: * http://www.cancer.org.il/ תרומה של 1400 שח לאגודה למלחמה בסרטן, אתר * תרומה של 1400 שח לאגודת החרשים בישראל, אתר http://www.deaf.org.il/ בשני המקרים, תציין שהתרומה התבצעה בתור פיצוי על משלוח דואר זבל אליי, שבחרתי להעבירו כתרומה אליהם במקום להנות ממנו אישית, ותבקש מהם שיעבירו אלי אישור שאכן קיבלו מכם את התרומות, ושהן אינן חלק מהתרומות הרגילות שאתם תורמים להם כל שנה (באם אתם תורמים להם). --- עומר זק On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 16:23 +0300, pablo wrote: עומר שלום, אני פונה אלייך עקב התכתובת אשר מופיעה להלן והגיעה אליי לטיפולי. לא הצלחתי למצוא את מס הטלפון שלך ועל כן הינך מוזמן לפנות אליי בנושא זה בטל : 054-6789954 .(פבלו) ראשית-אנא קבל התנצלותינו באם נפגעת משליחת מייל זה אלייך, לא הייתה לנו כל כוונה לפגוע בך או בכל אחד אחר ועל כן כל מי שביקש ויבקש להסירו מן הרשימה מוסר ממנה באופן מיידי. בהמשך לתגובתו של גלעד בן יוסף בעניין זה,איני יכול אלא שלא לקבלה שכן מכללת היי טק מפיצה ספאם על בסיס יום יומי ומפרסמת קורסים שגלעד בעצמו מלמד ומרוויח מהם באופן אישי. שוב- אנו מתנצלים באם נפגעת מתפוצה זאת ,דבר אשר לא יחזור על עצמו בעתיד. אשמח באם תיצור עימי קשר. תודה והמשך יום טוב, פבלו Best Regard, Pablo Slizak Training Center Manager Penguin IT Ltd Office : +972-77-7006751 Ext 356 Mobile : +972-54-6789954 Support 24/7 : +972-3-9411224 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.penguin-it.co.il * This e-mail is confidential, the property of Penguin IT Ltd and intended for the addressee only. Any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message or any attachments by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original message. Messages sent to and from Penguin IT Ltd may be monitored. Penguin IT Ltd cannot guarantee any message delivery method is secure or error-free. Information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. We do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in this message and/or attachment that arise as a result of transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Penguin IT Ltd. Penguin IT Limited Registered office: 5 Zarhin St, Ra'anana ,Israel. To protect the environment please do not print this e-mail unless necessary. ** Subject: Re: Linux related spam?! [Fwd: בואו להיות מומחי לינוקס] From: Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:33:39 +0300 To: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il I received also a personal E-mail message from Doron Ofek with about the same actual information and an (unneeded, because the spammer was not him personally - but a nice gesture nevertheless) apology. Can anyone with journalistic leanings pick up the story and publicize it in a place like whatsup? My goal, in proposing this, is for this to serve as a lesson for people, who might consider spamming in the future. --- Omer On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 14:18 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: Does anyone know anything about the following spammer? According to whois, the penguin-it.co.il domain is owned by: descr:yaron berenholtz adv descr:12 menahem begin st' descr:ramat gan descr:52521 descr:Israel phone:+972 3 6122111 fax-no: +972 3 6122119 e-mail: yaron.be AT gmail.com And the domain has been registered at 2008 Jan 15. --- Omer penguin-it used to be Doron Ofek's company. After a chain of events I have to admit I have not gotten to the bottom of, this seems to no longer be the case. Shachar -- Delay is the deadliest form of denial.C. Northcote Parkinson My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate
Re: Iglu site down?
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 12:04 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: Can't you set it up on your own home desktop for that purpose? Even absolute URL's can be tricked to point to the right content. Show me what you CAN'T do that way and I'll try to help you work around it. This will require downloading a whole lot of data (HTML, PHP, Perl, database dumps, etc.) to my host, and then setting it up there only to later upload it to tux.hamakor.org.il again, and then It'd guarantee that it can *never* be restored at iglu.org.il which I don't want. WHAT?! Does this mean that you never set up those backup scripts and routine backups, as matter of course, in the first place?! Nu-Nu-Nu! --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Day 2008
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 11:40 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Tuesday 05 August 2008, Omer Zak wrote: According to Debian Project News - August 4th, 2008, the 15th anniversary of the Debian project will be celebrated on Aug. 16, 2008. That's a Saturday, unfortunately. Not necessarily. Possible solutions: 1. Screw the Shabbat observants (including those who use SMS but do not protest strongly against the anti-deaf halachic directives from Rabbi Eliashiv and his ilk) and hold the event on Saturday nevertheless (see the sig below). 2. Hold the event on Saturday evening, after end of Shabbat. 3. Hold the event on another day. --- Omer -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Day 2008
According to Debian Project News - August 4th, 2008, the 15th anniversary of the Debian project will be celebrated on Aug. 16, 2008. More details are supposed to be in http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDay2008 but this link did not work for me. Is any Debian Day planned in Israel? --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which DNS servers did DHCP tell me to use? (was: Re: Smile 012 DNS cache (aka resolvers) servers)
If I use DHCP, how do I determine (after the fact) which DNS servers am I actually using? This information is available in /var/log/everything/current (at least in my Debian Etch installation). However, it would be nice to know also which command/s can be used to query for all information retrieved by means of DHCP (besides the IP address assigned to me, available from /sbin/ifconfig). --- Omer On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 15:16 +0300, Imri Zvik wrote: Hi, This email is for all the people who are customers of Smile 012 (including what used to be Internet Gold). If you are statically setting your DNS servers, and you are still using the old caching servers (192.116.202.222 and 213.8.172.83), please replace them with the following servers: 80.179.52.100 (primary) 80.179.55.100 (secondary) The old IP addresses will still provide service, but the new ones are much faster and will provide you with a better service. -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] Which DNS servers did DHCP tell me to use?
While I still do not know if and which command allows one to retrieve all information transferred by a DHCP transaction, three people (Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Ori Idan and Micha michf at post.tau.ac.il) pointed out the file /etc/resolv.conf Meanwhile, I found that when connection starts, the original /etc/resolv.conf is renamed as /etc/resolv.conf.pppd-backup, and a new /etc/resolv.conf is filled with values from the DHCP server. When connection is severed, the original /etc/resolv.conf is restored. There are also /etc/dhclient-script, /etc/dhclient.conf (consisting only of comments), etc/dhcp3 (a directory, which has hooks for ntpdate and samba). --- Omer -- My Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory; and its display device is grievously short of pixels. Can anyone help? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 00:05 +0300, Ariel Biener wrote: 1. SPAM is here to stay, mostly due to human nature. For people who want to sell something, this is an easy and cheap way to get more clients. This is from the human psychology/sociology point of view Asking myself whether it would have been to snip spam at its bud, by making domain registrars and ISPs more diligent about eliminating spam, my answer is that in the long range it was good that they were not strict. The reason is that not having to deal with spam would have left the networks and applications more vulnerable to a well-timed spam attach, which is bound to occur. 2. SPAM is here to stay, from a technical point of view, due to the fact that SMTP (and the following RFCs that enhance it) were not designed to deal with sender authenticity. In fact, I believe that up to this day, an RFC compliant mail system is required to accept the following: MAIL FROM: The following developments have the potential of changing the above situation: a. Massive switching of PC users from MS-Windows to a more secure OS, removing them out of zombie networks. b. New E-mail protocols, which are designed to prevent spam. Those protocols would supplant and eventually replace the existing ones. c. Legal developments making domain registrars legally liable to the actions of domains registered by them - with possibility of getting off the hook by verifying the identity and addresses of the applicants. 7. I do believe that some people on this list, while they have a theoretical point of view on how things should operate, lack the understanding of how things really turn out to be in the real world of ISP operations. Forgetting that the ISPs first, and foremost interest is to make money and make their shareholders happy is a fatal error, on the part of theoreticians. That however doesn't mean that everything ISPs do is acceptable, and sometimes very far from it. A balanced view however, that understands both the theory, and the practice is needed to be able to solve problems in the real ISP world. Is it possible to set up non-profit ISPs? How about mesh networks, based say upon WiFi and packet forwarding (old Usenet style)? -- 42 is the answer to everything. Food is the answer to everything except obesity. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 17:30 +0300, Imri Zvik wrote: While it is theoretically possible to setup a non-profit ISP, it is not practical. It takes A LOT of money to run an ISP - just the submarine uplinks costs a couple of hundred K's of $ per month, and even if you manage to get a serious staff working for you for free, or almost free (which I doubt, as ISP job is 24/7), you still need to buy expensive hardware, pay Bezeq for realms etc. So, unless you find someone with deep pockets who will fund this operation, I don't see how it is possible. But I do like the idea :) The nonprofit ISP's costs would be covered by payments from its clients, just like for-profit ISPs. The difference is that management will answer to clients (via board of their representative, say) rather than to profit-seeking owners. Therefore the utility function to be optimized will be to give the clients the best service possible at a given cost, rather than to maximize the owners' profits regardless. Another way to express it is that it is analogous to: by buying subscription to the ISP's service, a client gets a share in the ISP (to be surrendered when he terminates his subscription). So he would support a management which gives him good service rather than pay him higher dividends. I noticed that there were no comments about mesh networks with WiFi/packet forwarding. Such things are inherently non-profit. --- Omer -- Philip Machanick: caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Article in Yediot Petah Tikva from today
According to this article (pg. 30-31) in one of Petah Tikva's local newspapers, the municipal education department decided to switch to Linux. Congratulations to the unnamed activists who did the public relations work behind the curtains! --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting
I have E-mailed my ISP about this. You may want to add to your E-mail to your ISP also your concerns that since ALL Israeli ISPs are blacklisted, the entire country is in danger of being backlisted as a country. While the real reason for such an action would be political, the spam handling situation is too convenient excuse to pass up. On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 12:57 +0300, Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, Has anyone here tried to get the Bezeq Internation, Barak or Netvision to get them off the blacklisting found here: http://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php Apparently all the Israeli ISP are blacklisted here (any host you put there in their hosting range) - and all because they don't have a policy of cleaning up their network from spammers. This means we are all losing emails we send because our ISPs are doing a bad job. -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone with spamassassin expertise?
During the last few months, I get spam backscatter each few weeks - a wave of few hundred bounce E-mail messages. Almost all of them can be filtered using a rule which looks for my E-mail address with the wrong sender name. The line in question usually appears in an attachment, but sometimes it is in the body of the bounce message. Example: From: eliott feargus [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where eliott feargus could be anything except for Omer Zak case independent) My PC has spamassassin version 3.2.3 installed (as part of the Debian Etch set up), but it seems not to be trained to filter such E-mail. Can anyone advise me how to instruct the E-mail delivery system to use also this filtering criteria? Thanks, --- Omer -- Every good master plan involves building a time machine. Moshe Zadka My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grub weirdness
Since no one has already suggested the following, I'm making this suggestion: 1. cp -r /boot /tmp/boot-before 2. Untar the tarfile 3. cp -r /boot /tmp/boot-after 4. diff -r /tmp/boot-before /tmp/boot-after 5. Study the differences. 6. ??? 7. Profit! On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 15:04 +0300, Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, My aim is to take a dump of one server (tar.gz) and put it on a new server, effectively duplicating the computer. On Thursday 03 July 2008 14:21:54 Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 02:03:13PM +0300, Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, The blue menu doesn't appear, only the prompt. Everything is identical the only different between before and after is that the tar.gz is based on stable kernel, while the installer was based on a testing kernel. But that shouldn't affect it, as I am basically replacing everything... Maybe a better approach would be to format the /dev/sda partition first? I think that if your aim is to only replace kernel(s), you make sure your tar does not replace other files, only kernels, plus perhaps menu.lst (so that these kernels are selectable from the menu). Specifically, do not replace under /boot/grub any files except for, perhaps, menu.lst and device.map. -- 42 is the answer to everything. Food is the answer to everything except obesity. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New network device causes 'jump' from eth0 to eth1
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The relevant file is /etc/network/interfaces - see man 5 interfaces.
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:27 +0300, Noam Rathaus wrote:
Hi,
I moved an HD from one computer to another (not related to the grub issue
:D),
and because there is a different network card, eth0 is not longer present and
now eth1 is the deacto network card.
I don't want to reconfigure a few products I have bounded to eth0 (mainly
firewall rules).
How can I force it to use the new network card driver on eth0 instead of
eth1?
Or basically, where is it written that eth0 is 'thismodule' while eth1
is 'thisothermodule'?
I tried modprobe.conf/modules.conf:
alias eth0 e1000e
Without success - it still - after modprobe e1000e - gives me access to it
only through eth1
--
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obesity.
My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/
My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which
I may be affiliated in any way.
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#!/bin/sh
# Checks if the given interface matches the given ethernet MAC
# if it does it exits with 0 status, if it doesn't then it exists
# with 1 (error) status.
set -e
export LANG=C
if [ ! -n $1 -o ! -n $2 ] ; then
echo Usage: $0 IFACE targetMAC
exit 1
fi
iface=$1
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Gedit accelerator keys not working under KDE?
I was not successful in using accelerator keys in Gedit, when running it under KDE desktop. Is this a known problem, or am I doing anything wrong? The relevant versions are: * Debian Etch Linux * KDE desktop, version 3.5.5 (the kdebase package version is 3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2). * gedit 2.14.4 (the kedit package version is 2.14.4-8) --- Omer -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X cursor problem
Looks like your cursor was loaded by an empty or transparent cursor image. On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:03 +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: My cursor dissappeared. By randomly movng the mouse, I could see that the mouse was functioning (icons, windows, etc were highlighted so I could guess where the cursor should have been). I tried 2 possible solutions but neither solved the problem: 1 - ctrl-alt-Backspace to restart X 2 - ctrl-alt-F1 and from the terminal init 3 and then back to init 5 In both cases, my new X/KDE sessions came up with no cursor. In the end, I rebooted and everything is back to normal - but, hey, I shouldn't have to boot for something like this. What am I missing? BTW - I've had this problem before (although very rare - last time was several months ago). -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Iceweasel/Firefox 3 for Debian Etch?
I am looking for the Iceweasel debian package corresponding to Firefox 3. Since I would like to install it in Debian Etch system, I looked for it in the Debian backports (http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=packages) domain, but did not find such a thing there. Since there must have been some Debian Etch users among the millions of Firefox 3 downloaders - how did they deal with this issue? --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Under which keywords can such systems be found?
I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone sized or even smaller) with the following features: 1. Runs Linux. 2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window. 3. Audio input. 4. At least one USB port. 5. Ethernet port. 6. Runs on batteries. 7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install Linux on the computer. (Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by sshing.) I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for such a system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and where can it be obtained in Israel. --- Omer -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Under which keywords can such systems be found?
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 11:57 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: I am looking for a computer with small form factor (cellphone sized or even smaller) with the following features: 1. Runs Linux. 2. RAM+disk - as needed to run a Linux system without X-Window. 3. Audio input. 4. At least one USB port. 5. Ethernet port. 6. Runs on batteries. 7. A way (such as a memory card built on another system) to install Linux on the computer. (Keyboard and display are not needed - programming can be done by sshing.) I would appreciate suggestions under which keywords to search for such a system in Google (or in specialized product search Websites), and where can it be obtained in Israel. --- Omer Two questions (Spanish inquisition non-withstanding). 1. How much do you want to pay for it? Less than Asus EeePC. 2. Does it have to be Intel based? No, but it needs to be supported by Debian. I see that two just became two squared. :-) 3. How many units do you need? One - for experiments and prototyping. 4. USB host or device? USB host, as I want to connect USB devices to it. Any computer on a chip system can provide you with everything you asked for (well, you will need to adapt the battery yourself, but the voltage and, more importantly, amperage are compatible with battery operation). Thanks for the keyword suggestion. --- Omer -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Under which keywords can such systems be found?
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 15:07 +0300, ronys wrote: Hi, A friend of mine (in Israel) worked with these a couple of years ago - no idea how he bought them, though: http://www.gumstix.com/ The comment about buying Gumstix stuff is pertinent - in their Web site, Israel is not listed among the countries, to which they ship directly. If any Linux-IL subscriber represents Gumstix in Israel, please stand up. --- Omer -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anti-RTL mindset is similar to anti-accessibility mindset (was: Re: Openmoko Group sale)
Chiming in the discussion, my 7 agorot (2 cents) are as follows. The mindset of the Openmoko developers seems to me to be anti-accessibility. It stands to reason that they'll turn down requests to provide for accessibility to people with disabilities. The devices are probably inherently unusable by blind people (like music for deaf people). However, deaf people can be victimized by software, which beeps without visual indication. Color-blind people can be victimized by software UI design, which relies too much on color cues, and which does not provide for ability to change colors. Epileptic people can be victimized by software, which insists upon blinking. Nevertheless, the percentage of those people in the general population is small enough for the Openmoko to make a case for ignoring their needs, much the same way they make a case for ignoring the needs of RTL people. --- Omer On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 00:52 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Dotan Cohen, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: everyone, then I would expect that support for LTR, RTL, TTB, and other methods of writing should be a core part of the UI, not tacked on later. haven't seen the discussion, but I'd imagine the most sensible reply from OpenMoko would be we provide a hardware platform and a basic UI with 3(!) different toolkits. Don't make us pick sides, do your own hacking. -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Fragmentation in the community
Another possibility: The planet used to be in http://foss-il.ev-en.org/ but was moved to http://planet.linux.org.il/ yet there is no link from the original URL to the up-to-date URL. In fact, this is how I ceased (until today) to follow the planet. On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 18:20 +0300, Lior Kaplan wrote: Hi, I've written about why does it seems most of the members of this list don't read planet.linux.org.il. I'd be happy to get answers about this, as I'm trying to make the community more closely related. http://kaplanopensource.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/%d7%a4%d7%99%d7%a6%d7%95%d7%9c-%d7%91%d7%a7%d7%94%d7%99%d7%9c%d7%94/ -- You haven't made an impact on the world before you caused a Debian release to be named after Snufkin. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:cheap and reliable web hosting anyone ?
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 10:54 +0300, Erez D wrote: however, i want it to ... ... leave security and backup issues to the hosting site (so i do not put it on my pc) I would advise against this. If your stuff is static, it is enough to backup it just once. But it must be backed up nevertheless. --- Omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP/GPG keys impact? (was: Re: Fwd: Debian SSH vulnerability: act now!)
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 11:09 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'll try to give context to Amos's message, as I think it is important. If you are running an ssh server on a machine which is not Debian, and was never affected by the openssl key generation bug, you may be under the impression that there is no need to do anything. This is not exactly the case. One more piece of context which I feel to be necessary: Does the vulnerability affect also PGP/GPG keys generated during the last two years? If yes, how to invalidate those keys when they are already at large? --- Omer -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] Re: New Article: What Makes Software High-Quality?
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 12:47 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! Here's a new article, fresh off the electronic press: http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/high-quality-software/ It's available as HTML to read online, PDF (but please don't print it) and DocBook/XML. The Licence is CC-by-2.5 (or later). If it's CC-by-2.5, then why not print it? To save some precious natural CO2 disposal units? Because the article is still in flux and you had better wait 3 months until it stabilizes before printing it on parchment? --- Omer -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mknod
Why doesn't that developer have his own PC? If the developer needs to write his own kernel modules, then he needs root privileges anyway. But if he just develops applications for an embedded system, which already has debugged modules, then the devices can be created beforehand (manually or via udev, as already suggested by someone else). --- Omer On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 22:39 +0800, Ohad Levy wrote: for embedded platform development, its required to create devices which are hardware specific (i.e. our own modules). any way to reduce the risk? Thanks On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ohad Levy wrote: Hello All, Is there any risk to give a user sudo rights of mknod? as far as I understand it now, it can only create new devices, therefor the risk for a running system is minimal. Thanks, Ohad As others mentioned, giving someone the right to mknod is equivalent to giving them root in a fairly straight forward way. May I ask, though, why you want to allow them to mknod? Shachar -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status of IPv6 deployment in Israel?
What is the current status of IPv6 deployment in Israel? I am interested in an answer to this question because of the following projection: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MonkeyBites/~3/284126431/996-days-projec.html http://he.net/news/Hurricane_Electric_IPv6_Update_April_2008.pdf --- Omer -- May the holy trinity of $_, @_ and %_ be hallowed. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to deal with bounce messages spam?
My E-mail address somehow found its way into the reservoir of E-mail addresses used by some spambots for forging the From: line in E-mail messages. The consequence is that during recent days I have been flooded with bounce messages from mailer-daemon and postmaster of various domains, which bounced back spam messages whose delivery to the final destination failed. My practice so far has been to filter spam messages into a junk folder and manually inspectdelete them, so that I can catch any false positives. However, given the flood of the bounce messages spam, I'll need to automatically get rid of them. Fortunately, almost all of the messages which I want to automatically delete seem to match the rule that the original message has a From: line with my E-mail address but with another name. The question is - is it possible and how to configure SpamAssasin and/or Evolution (my E-mail client) to reject those messages (or file them in a junk2 folder, for rapid deletion)? Thanks, --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SourceForge down?
Upon seeing the following E-mail, I tested sourceforge.net and slashdot.org. As of 15:15 I can reach neither of them, and I am connected via Golden Lines (012.net). Anyone from outside of Israel, check both sites please? On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 14:47 +0300, ronys wrote: Hi, Is it only me, or is sourceforge.net unavailable over the last few hours? I can't reach them from Netvision or from Bezeqint. Slashdot.org also seems down (both are owned by SourceForge Inc. - odd). Rony = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnucash annual reports for Israel
If we are at this subject, can anyone, who has experience with using GNUCash in Israel, write an HOWTO about configuring GNUCash to meet the needs for micro-business accounting in Israel? Sample questions: 1. How to set up things so that VAT will be automatically calculated and credited to a VAT account? 2. How to get the accounts notarized (or whatever) by a CPA? --- Omer On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 09:07 +0300, Yuval Hager wrote: Hi list, It's that time of year again (for submitting fiscal reports). This year I have everything under gnucash though! I was wondering what is the best way to file the reports to the accountant. Assuming he does not know or care about the software - What reports should I create and send to him? I know Gnucash reports are US oriented, and have no idea which ones apply to Israel. -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnucash annual reports for Israel
Geoff, While I know that there are lots of complications and non-sense things in the Israeli tax laws, I am afraid that your point of view makes things more complicated than they really are. On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 10:14 +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: 2. How to get the accounts notarized (or whatever) by a CPA? I don't think you would want to. In order for YOU to enter the data into an apporoved accounting program, you must be a level 3 (as in 1 is the lowest) certified bookkeeper. I have been using an accounting program running in MS-DOS (!), but now (due to reasons into which I'll not go now) I am faced with either going back to fully manual method or switching to a Linux based accounting program. If you use an alternate method of entering the data and keeping the books, or you are not certified, you can not legally submit the data to the tax authorities. However if you provide the data to your accountant and they enter the data or have a level 3 certified bookkeeper enter it, those reports may be submitted. My work flow has always been to provide the data to my CPA and have him submit the reports. The fact that this work flow will stay the same is what is simplifying the problem. For best results and less cost, you can submit your data to them in a format they can import the data into their program. From what I understand all the approved programs can read .xls (Exel format) spreadsheets. This can be part of the proposed GNUCash-for-Israel HOWTO - how to prepare a .xls file so that its contents can be imported into all accounting programs approved in Israel. --- Omer -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: binary diff
xxd's function is exactly to convert from binary into text. Try to convert your binary files using: xxd -p -c1 (works for me: xxd -v output is xxd V1.10 27oct98 by Juergen Weigert). I checked also how to do it using od. The following would work (my od --version is 5.97): od -v -w1 -ta --address-radix none or: od -v -w1 -tx1 --address-radix none --- Omer On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 11:37 +0300, Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other stuff wrote: Erez - Perhaps you could first convert the binary files to text representation (od --address-radix none) and then preform the comparison in that dimension? Yaacov Erez D wrote: hi i am looking for something like 'diff' which can compare binary files and give a result other then just 'differ' or 'same' the same as what diff does for text files. i though of using xxd with a regular diff, but that doesn't help, as if there is one byte missing, all lines are shifted which means they are different textually, when they are not really. -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: major packet loss at hot server
After having seen some E-mail messages about this subject, I decided to run my own tests. I found that when mtr'ing Israeli hosts, I get packet loss. When mtr'ing international hosts (www.yahoo.com, www.google.com, zak.co.il [hosted outside of Israel], I get less packet loss than when mtr'ing Israeli hosts. Weird! I am connected via ADSL and 012.net.il. --- Omer On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 09:19 +0200, Noam Meltzer wrote: Hi, I live in Givatayim, and connected to the internet through HOT Bezeqint. Also, the connection to Bezeqint is without VPN (aka. חייגן) Apparently, I have some packet loss too. It appears like the packet loss are occurring exactly in the connection between HOT and Bezeqint. The following is the output of mtr to walla.co.il. -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel question - what happens when a shell script is the interpreter for another shell script?
Did you add /tmp/file1 to the list in /etc/shells? On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 16:23 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, I tried the following experiment. /tmp/file1 (marked executable) has the following content: #!/bin/date echo $@ /tmp/file2 has the following content: #!/tmp/file1 echo File2 when I run file2, I expect it to print out the current date. Instead, it prints out File2. In other words, it goes to /bin/sh to execute. -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OFFTOPIC] How to switch to IPv6? (was: Re: IPv6 support in old (2.4) kernels)
On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 17:43 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Let's not go into the question why 2.4 is important, OK? Can we get into the question of why IPv6 is important? Can we get into the question how can we personally switch to IPv6 right now? How to connect to our current ISPs using IPv6, and how to interoperate with legacy IPv4 Internet? --- Omer -- May the holy trinity of $_, @_ and %_ be hallowed. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: all-in-one ink printer : looking for recommendations
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 14:15 +0200, Boaz Rymland wrote: Hi, I'm looking into buying an all-in-one printer. I'll probably go for ink printer since I don't print too much and printing color output would be useful. Avoid Epson Stylus CX3200 and similar printers. While all of its functions work under Linux, it was designed to waste ink. Each power cycling wastes some ink. Also, its ink cartridges contain a chip preventing them from refilled. --- Omer -- May the holy trinity of $_, @_ and %_ be hallowed. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connecting more than one display to the same PC
On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 12:14 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 23:54 +0200, Omer Zak wrote: - I need it to be a PCI card, as the AGP slot is already occupied. However if an AGP card is much better, please let me know about it as well. You can also replace your AGP card with a new(er) card that has out-of-the-box dual monitor support. Can you please refer me to information about configuring X-Window to handle such a card? For example, does each display have its own PCI address (in which the information in http://www.linux.com/articles/113516 can be used verbatim)? --- Omer -- Sent from a PC running a top secret test version of Windows 97. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Postmortem (Re: Connecting more than one display to the same PC)
Now I have two working displays connected to my PC. My PC's motherboard still has one free PCI slot, which I might use for another video card and 3rd display in the future. I ended up buying 2nd GeForce FX 5200, so now I have two FX 5200 cards, one having AGP interface and the other - PCI interface. The 17 display was moved to the PCI card, and the 20/wide display (which I bought as well) is connected via the AGP interface. SVGA cables are used for both, although the new display has also DVI interface. I worked at few stages. First stage was to disconnect the 17 display and connect the 20 display to the AGP card. I invoked (in my Debian Etch system): dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and it created /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which supports modes beyond 1280x1024 (namely 1680x1050, 1440x1440 and 1440x900). Then I inserted the second FX 5200, and after turning the PC back on, I ran lspci and manually edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf according to instructions in http://www.linux.com/articles/113516 and invoked /etc/init.d/kdm restart (to restart the X-Window server). Once both displays worked, I invoked the Configure - KDE Control Module (in KDE 3.5: start menu/Settings/Peripherals/Display/Multiple Monitors), identified all displays (using the Identify All Displays button), and configured where I want to see unmanaged windows (in the display containing the pointer) and the splash screen (in the 20 display - display 2). The Multiple Monitor Support checked items were satisfactory for me, so I didn't change them. After backing up my manually edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, I ran again dpkg-reconfigure as above and noticed that the file version created by it overwrote my version of /etc/X11/xorg.conf. So I suppose that after each upgrade of the xserver-xorg package I'll have to revisit configuration. One problem I did not solve. I want to have the menu start button (in the left bottom corner of display 1) to appear in both displays - but did not find how to configure KDE 3.5 to do this. Thanks to Michael Tewner, Geoffrey S. Mendelson and Gilboa Davara who answered my questions, even though I did not use their answers after all. --- Omer -- My Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory; and its display device is grievously short of pixels. Can anyone help? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Connecting more than one display to the same PC
After reading the article in http://www.linux.com/articles/113516 about this subject and seeing how simple it is to configure X-Window to handle two displays, I would like to do this in my PC. * What is your experience with driving 2-3 displays from your Linux PC? * Given the following situation, what would you recommend/keep away from? Hardware: My PC currently has the nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) (according to lspci) video card in an AGP slot. It also has two free PCI slots. Installation: Linux flavor being used - Debian Etch, updated packages. X-Window: Xorg version: 7.1.0-19. Video driver being used: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so From /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (II) Module nv: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.2.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver * Specific issues and questions: 1. What is the best video card nowadays, by the following criteria: - Linux support - Support for OpenGL in Linux - Support for 3D effects in Linux - On the other hand, I am not a gamer and don't expect to play games on it. - I need it to be a PCI card, as the AGP slot is already occupied. However if an AGP card is much better, please let me know about it as well. 2. Is there any problem using two different video cards (say, nVidia and ATI) in the same PC? 3. Not directly related to the above, but insights would be helpful: I have a problem with the gspca Webcam driver - when trying to use any application using a Webcam, the process gets stuck and cannot be killed (i.e. the problem is in the driver). The problem seems to be associated with the video card/driver, because in another PC (with an ATI driver), the gspca driver and Webcam work OK. Does anyone know anything about this problem? I already asked the gspca developer and in some IRC forums - but found no help there. --- Omer -- Delay is the deadliest form of denial.C. Northcote Parkinson My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Efficient C++ XML validating parser?
On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 12:43 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: How about using a binary format which is compiled from XML ? In this day and age, is it really all that faster? What makes XML hard to parse, IMHO, is not the fact that it's text, it's the fact that it's hierarchal. You get all the benefits of using XML and no parsing overhead. Well, you lose one benefit - it's no longer in a standard parsable, nor even textual, format. Not necessarily. If you have a converter between XML and your binary format, and make it available everywhere your application is available, then the messages would still effectively be available in XML. You'll need also some way to force people to modify the converter whenever they modify the schema. Another way is to use one of the serializer/unserializer modules available in scripting languages such as Python or Perl. This will transform between your data structure's internal representation and a binary format. --- Omer -- May the holy trinity of $_, @_ and %_ be hallowed. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTL in plaintext mails
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:14 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, איך ההודעה הזו נראית? In hebrew, but justified to the left I use Evolution (version 2.6.3, from Debian Etch) to read my E-mail, and in Evolution, the Hebrew line is right-justified, with RTL direction (the question mark is to the left). --- Omer To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subtitling/Captioning in Linux
http://www.linux.com/feature/125978 Subtitle manipulation tools for Linux By Razvan T. Coloja on February 07, 2008 -- In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding porn links in hacked web pages
1. When your Web site contains a blog (which may not be a problem for Geoff's friend's Web site), the local copy upload method is not feasible, unless designed to skip the blog part. 2. The local copy upload method does not alert you when vandalism has actually occurred. On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:48 +0200, Shahar Dag wrote: Hi I would prefer to maintain a local copy of the web + once a day (using cron) to upload it to the web server (or even better, maintain a SVN server that hold the local copy of the web) Shahar - Original Message - From: Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-il linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Finding porn links in hacked web pages The method which I use is to: 1. Perform periodic backup of the entire Web site, including SQL dumps of any databases driving it. 2. Download the backup files to PC. 3. Open them (into a subdirectory and import into a new DB instance, respectively). 4. Run 'diff' between the opened files and the previous backup. For regular files, use 'diff'. For DB comparison of two MySQL DBs, I use a Python script, which I wrote. --- Omer On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Yesterday my wife went to a perfectly normal web page and after a few seconds a porn page replaced it. I looked at the HTML page source and found that at the bottom of the page were hundreds of links, which did not belong there. I called the publisher of the page, and he determined that his server had been hacked and the links added. He is not technicaly inclined at all, and does not have the ability to check his pages without going to each one in a browser and looking at the page source. He has thousands of pages and runs the site as a Jewish news site, with no income. I was thinking that I could write a program that scans each of his web pages using wget or lynx to download them, but don't want to start writing code if it has been already done. Any suggestions? -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding porn links in hacked web pages
The method which I use is to: 1. Perform periodic backup of the entire Web site, including SQL dumps of any databases driving it. 2. Download the backup files to PC. 3. Open them (into a subdirectory and import into a new DB instance, respectively). 4. Run 'diff' between the opened files and the previous backup. For regular files, use 'diff'. For DB comparison of two MySQL DBs, I use a Python script, which I wrote. --- Omer On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Yesterday my wife went to a perfectly normal web page and after a few seconds a porn page replaced it. I looked at the HTML page source and found that at the bottom of the page were hundreds of links, which did not belong there. I called the publisher of the page, and he determined that his server had been hacked and the links added. He is not technicaly inclined at all, and does not have the ability to check his pages without going to each one in a browser and looking at the page source. He has thousands of pages and runs the site as a Jewish news site, with no income. I was thinking that I could write a program that scans each of his web pages using wget or lynx to download them, but don't want to start writing code if it has been already done. Any suggestions? -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc thoughts
On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 09:24 +0200, Amit Aronovitch wrote: Leonid Podolny wrote: [... snipped ...] This morning, while browsing through pages of frustratingly irrelevant cscope output, I got an idea. In every kosher *nix development environment, the cross-references (i.e. jump to definition of this struct/function) are built by some crippled 3rd party tool (such as ctags, cscope or home-brewed set of elisp scrips). On the other hand, the only tool that actually knows what is going on during compilation is gcc, so it's only logical that it should build cross-references along the way. [... snipped ...] Sorry I did not read all the replys very thoroughly, but I did notice that nobody mentioned gcc_xml http://www.gccxml.org/ It does much more than what you need, but I'm sure that the information you seek is in fact stored in the output (I believe a simple SAX processor should be able to extract it fast enough to be integrated into the dev environ). Besides - you could probably use more than just the location of the defs. From a brief glance at the gccxml Web site, the project looks to be relatively unmaintained (at least). The most recent release was at 2004. --- Omer -- My Commodore 64 is suffering from slowness and insufficiency of memory; and its display device is grievously short of pixels. Can anyone help? My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Emacs22 on Debian Etch
When I looked for an Emacs22 package for Debian Etch, I found that the regular Debian backports Web site at http://www.backports.org/ does not include a backport of this package. (The reason I looked for this version of Emacs was because of its network connection support by means of ELISP functions like make-network-process and open-network-stream. It also has a cua mode, which allows you to use the now-standard C-x, C-c and C-v key combinations for the standard operations.) Today I found that the Emacs Wiki Web site has a page about exactly this subject: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/OnDebianEtch Following directions, Emacs22 was successfully installed and made the default. Details are as follows. 1. I worked as root, so I used the following to authenticate the package source hype.sourceforge.jp/f: # wget http://hype.sourceforge.jp/f/A7F20B7E.gpg -O- | apt-key add - 2. As directed, I added the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://hype.sourceforge.jp/f etch backports deb-src http://hype.sourceforge.jp/f etch backports 3. I used aptitude (rather than the various apt-get commands recommended by the aforementioned Web page). As usual, it complains when activated for the first time after adding another source. I restarted it, and the complaint went away. When running update, aptitude recommended that several packages (for example, PHP5 related ones) be upgraded. I blocked everything by the F command (Forbid Upgrade), and selected the Emacs22 packages. aptitude informed about a buffer overflow error, which was already fixed in the Debian Lenny version of Emacs22. I allowed it to be installed. Installation proceeded without further incidents. 4. After installation, I checked which version of emacs is in effect using: # update-alternatives --display emacs Since I found it to be pointing at /usr/bin/emacs22-x rather than /usr/bin/emacs21-x, no further action was needed. --- Omer -- MCSE - acronym for Minesweeper Consultant Solitaire Expert. (Unknown) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Run out of inodes
Few years ago a Linux system, which I used, ran out of inodes once in a while. The reason was that a directory in /var (I do not remember its name) got filled by thousands of zero-length files, due to a botched error recovery attempt by some daemon. The cure was to delete all those files. I would suggest that you look for obsolete archive files in /var/log and for other obsolete stuff in other /var subdirectories. Once those files re deleted, you should be able to free several inodes. --- Omer On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 09:12 +0100, Biran, Yahav (Yahav) wrote: df -I show: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mpower]# df -i FilesystemInodes IUsed IFree IUse% Mounted on /dev/cciss/c0d0p6 262144 10442 2517024% / /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 26104 54 260501% /boot none 1013170 1 10131691% /dev/shm /dev/cciss/c0d0p23989888 616728 3373160 16% /export/home /dev/cciss/c0d0p7 131616 20 1315961% /tmp /dev/cciss/c0d0p33842720 127472 37152484% /usr /dev/cciss/c0d0p8 131616 131616 0 100% /var Therefore I can't run any rpm nor up2date. How one can clean up some inodes? -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone maintain http://www.ivrix.org.il/ nowadays?
Today I tried to access it, and it took long time until my Web browser reported that it has a problem. --- Omer P.S.: I am looking for a Free Hebrew-English and/or English-Hebrew dictionary file. The nearest one, which I found is http://www.freelang.net/dictionary/hebrew.html but the Hebrew words are transcribed in Latin letters rather than in Hebrew letters. -- Eli Marmor's Law: netiquette forbids people from replying I agree with you to messages in mailing lists, skewing discussions in favor of the troublemaker type of dissenters. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: boot messages
I compared your strace with strace in my system when running ls -la .
Since my system is Debian Etch, may I suggest that you request someone,
who is running Mandriva like you, to run strace and E-mail you his
strace output for comparison with yours?
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 12:20 +0200, shlomo solomon wrote:
On Dec 21, 2007 11:30 AM, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ strace ls -la /-usr/bin/rpmquery
[... snipped ...]
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 - 6, base_addr:0xb7e6fab0,
limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0,
limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0
mprotect(0xb7faa000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0
mprotect(0xb7fdf000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0
munmap(0xb7fb9000, 50427) = 0
set_tid_address(0xb7e6faf8) = 15123
sendto(-1209599232, umovestr: Input/output error
0xc, 3085434868,
MSG_PROXY|MSG_EOR|MSG_TRUNC|MSG_ERRQUEUE|MSG_CONFIRM|MSG_FIN|MSG_RST|MSG_NOSIGNAL|MSG_MORE|0xb7e6,
ptrace: umoven: Input/output error
{...}, 3216877960) = 0
The above is an I/O error which I do not see in my system's strace.
Google has a lot of stuff about umoven I/O error, but included no
explanations or solutions. Some people said that those errors are
normal in straces.
open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
write(2, : Permission denied, 19: Permission denied) = 19
write(2, \n, 1
) = 1
You may be having a problem with /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo
--- Omer
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Re: missing /home
When checking for free disk space, check also inodes (by df -i). According to past experience, when a partition runs out of inodes, sometimes the system manages to continue to work and erratically fail (when processes need to create new files without deleting others beforehand). Another shot in the dark: which filesystem are you using on home - ext2, ext3, reiserfs, ... ? --- Omer On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 23:50 +0200, shlomo solomon wrote: On Dec 20, 2007 11:36 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another reason kde could fail to write is lack of disk space. Is /home full or close to full? No - over 20 Gb free on /home. BTW - it¶ not a KDE problem. I can login from a console (Ctl-Alt-1) either. -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top FOSS security vulnerabilities
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 02:35 +, Amos Shapira wrote: On 14/12/2007, Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.linux.com/feature/123171 explains the philosophy and reasoning of Palamida, which found those vulnerabilities. I found the article to be FUD-free. Should be very interesting, but the alleged link to the spreadsheet with data (http://www.linux.com/feature/TKTKTK) seems to link to some list of Linux.com features. Do you have another link? No, but you may want to have a look at http://www.palamida.com/taxonomy/term/4 - the May 3, 2007 article (The False Positives of Vulnerability) and follow links from there. --- Omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic dyndns client for Debian Etch?
I use dyndns, too, and am interested in the subject. Therefore, I fired up aptitude in my Debian Etch installation and found the following: v dyndns-client and packages which implement the above: ez-ipupdate ddclient Both of them seem to meet the requirements. Does anyone from the mailing list have experience with those packages and can make a recommendation? --- Omer On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 12:41 +, Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, It seems that the no-ip.org client I've been using for a few years now has stopped updating the account. I'm leaving for a few weeks in a couple of days and don't have time to investigate this too much, so I opened an account with dyndns.org and setup my home but all the packages I found for Debian Etch seem to be talking about ddns.nu (which is different?) or require manual invocation. Is there a simple daemon a-la the one provided for no-ip.org to keep my address up to date within a reasonable interval? -- Kosher Cellphones (cellphones with blocked SMS, video and Internet) are menace to the deaf. They must be outlawed! (See also: http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/2006/04/21/the-grave-danger-to-the-deaf-from-kosher-cellphones/) My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Top FOSS security vulnerabilities
http://www.linux.com/feature/123171 explains the philosophy and reasoning of Palamida, which found those vulnerabilities. I found the article to be FUD-free. http://www.palamida.com/node/513 lists the topmost 5 overlooked vulnerabilities for 2007 according to them. Of course, in their blog, they do not miss an opportunity to promote their business (audit of corporate codebase to find uses of Free Software and overlooked vulnerabilities). DISCLAIMER: I am neither affiliated nor customer (satisfied or otherwise). I only read some security related Web news items, and thought it'll be good idea to bring those news items to general attention. --- Omer -- MS-Windows is the Pal-Kal of the PC world. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ptrace help
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 23:50 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi all, I need help trying to wrap my head around ptrace. I'm trying to create the most basic of programs: in the child process (right after the fork) I do: [... snipped ...] Shachar, You provided us with a description of the expected and actual behaviors. However, it would be better if you provided us with the full source code of a sample program involving ptrace, as written by you. From skimming man ptrace, it appears that the subprocess is stopped by ptrace actions and needs to be restarted. Overall the ptrace command set seems to be designed around the metaphor of an human-controlled debugger. --- Omer -- One does not make peace with enemies. One makes peace with former enemies. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
