RE: CS[List Owner] Whew!
Even though I am not even slightly interested in following MM's group/site and can appreciated that the disruptiveness is now over, I appreciate David's kind treatment of him here. And I 'get it'. Thank you for speaking from your heart, David. ( and a thanks to Mike D for being such a gentleman about it) Sharon Mike Monet originally joined the group back in 2006 with complaints about mold spores which is why he came to us. He was so desparate to find an answer about his mold problem to the point where he was triple washing his clothes and burning holes in his bedsheets with strong chemicals. He even mentioned fires in the microwave in his zealous though misguided attempt to kill the spores he supected were poisening him. Mike is a brilliant electronics engineer. At some point his mind fogged and he suspected the mold. As a result he came here and gleaned information from the group. He improved his eating habits and developed scientific methods of EIS production. His mind began to clear and he began to refine the process. Mike's intelligence is such that he has no social skills nearly to the point of being a sociopath. As he got his mind back (who knows if it was spores or what) he refined existing protocols for EIS production and now has hit on something that makes logical sense to his electonics trained mind. However his focus on things electrical and scientific was to the exclusion of social skills and so he blasted through the group like a bull in a china shop never considering he might be hurting peoples feelings. Indeed he would scoff that a person would allow their rational mind to be overcome by a feeling. I write this so that you the reader might understand a little of the psyche of Mike Monet and perhaps be able to forgive the crude manner in which he communicated. Maybe even have empathy for him as he is surely a lonely person. David Bearrow -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow to Make Non-Glycerin Soap | eHow.com
I was about to chime in with the same suggestion. The woman who sells this was the first one to introduce Dr Judd to the internet world, and she provided his book for sale. The first purchase I ever made from her was rather ivory soap tasting (no glycerin), but she got the product somehow more tolerable to the taste and offers different flavors. Instead of the original little soap 'threads', it now comes as a liquid in a dropper bottle. She also sells the form of phosphate that Judd recommended. If you sign up for email, you'll just get notices of sales. I want to say that her first name is Veronica, but I don't trust my memory on that for sure. Sharon Brooks wrote: It is very difficult to purchase non-glycerin soap from commercial sourcesbusiness marketers have, simply, eliminated the general demand for such soaps. --- Google tooth soap Nenah
RE: CSPrayer request...
Computer down all week. Adding healing prayers for rapid, uneventful rcovery. May it be so Sharon -Original Message- From: Scott Adams [mailto:msad...@msadams.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSPrayer request... I will pray for him Mike! Let us know how the operation goes please! -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSPrayer request... Hello folks, One of the reasons I've been so quiet lately is that we're dealing with my brother's health situation. He's undergoing a critical cardiac procedure this morning, to attempt to open and place stents in at least three of the grafts he received during a quadruple bypass operation 2-1/2 weeks ago, which evidently collapsed starting Sunday morning. He's only 60 years old, and a basically good, gentle person, often bemused by this thing called... life. I've asked that divine healers and the Christ attend him along with his worldly doctors. Please send him your prayers and well-wishes. Thank you. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSconsuming Thorvin kelp
WHEN I remember to take mine, I pour a glass of water. I put the kelp on a tsp, I take a big sip of the water and immediately upon swallowing it, I throw the spoonful of Thorvin in the mouth, and IMMEDIATELY wash it down with another slug of water. Pretty painless. However, I can't even make this method work for either brewer's yeast, or dessicated liver! Sharon On Brooks' advice, I have been buying granulated Thorvin kelp and feeding it to my dogs. The 2 young labs love it and gobble it up, the senior Shelty mix will only eat it mixed with yogurt. I give them each 2 heaping teaspoons a day. I bought it from Hoeggar's Goat Supply, BTW. For me, however, I'm having difficulty making the stuff palatable. I tried Brooks' method of mixing with lecithin, YECHH. I'm able to sneak in a half teaspoon into my morning green smoothie, any more and the taste and texture get nasty. I also tried mixing with applesauce, YECHH again. Anyone found a good way to choke this stuff down? I've thought about putting it into the large 500mg gelatin capsules, but I have esophageal spasm and large pills literally get stuck in my throat. -- Alan Jones
RE: CS[List Owner] Thanks...
mm-mmm, the smell of baking! A wonderful Christmas full of health and well being to you and your family, Mike. Thanks for keeping this list glued together all these years! Sharon The tree is trimmed, the last present arrived with the smiling UPS guy, and strains of Mannheim Steamroller are wafting through the house with the smell of baking... grin Thank you for being in my life this past year, and past decade in the case of some of you! LOL Above all, I wish the gift of healing and wellness to all. Peace. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDistilled Water....MORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?!
Ode, you have outdone yourself with this piece. I finally picked myself up off the floor and am tempted to send it to every 'health' publication in the world! Made my day! Sharon/starshar -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDistilled WaterMORE Toxic than Municipal Tap Water?! Swing wild enough and you'll hit something now and then. Think a bit and you can catch that line drive hiding in all those fouls that you dropped. What is caught in left field doesn't apply to those in right field with empty mitts, but a catch is a catch. One mans toxin is another mans cure. If I can't enjoy a coated with carcinogens burnt animal on a bun with some Sulfuric Acid producing Onions now and then, what's the point ? Fat free? I'll take a double order and thank you for the sale at McDoodles drive by Lube n' Scoot. [A lead belly burger a day keeps the other 5 meals away] Don't drink that [Natures Distilled] rain water until it's been tumbled over every element there is for at least a few weeks. The food you eat has no minerals to replace those your body eliminated. Old minerals are better than new ones, better not lose any. Your body is a complete helpless idiot with a data base and process control developed over thousands of centuries and you have to out think it every moment ...or you'll die. If you do, you won't...right? VOCs Second hand smoke kills even in some public park out doors, but driving to the Air Nazi meeting, your car emits thousands of times more VOCs than a smoker will in his entire life. Keep that stuff out of the water, never mind that the air is loaded with em...you can always stop breathing. One glass of tomato juice produces 50 times the methanol as a can of Diet Coke...but Diet Coke is deadly. Belly up to the juice bar, boys. Got stuck with a straight 9 when I coulda had a V 3 !! Have a Red Beer on me. [tastes a LOT better than Diet Coke and rum, added to make up the methanol difference] My coal miner Grandad ate eggs, bacon and bacon fat fried potatoes with grease soaked toasted white bread every day for 85 years and chain smoked non filtereds from the age of 9 ...and it was the *eat only sticks and bark guy* that had a heart attack. Go figger. 20 years ago Pop said that his Dads last 5 years weren't much fun So, my Dad does every kick that comes along and he's now 84...he might live to be 94 or even 104, might not. Will his last 10 years be any more fun than his Dads last 5? Now Pop says, Son, don't get old, it's no fun a'tall ..I'll go with what happens and be very glad to not die too old. I figger Shot by looters while chasin hooters will do just fine. ..and feed my body to the pigs and chickens, bacon and eggs is divine. Once in the morning and I don't want supper. ..and if I eat a Whopper and fries, I'm not hungry again for almost 2 days. If I'm thirsty, wet will do. I NEED salt. A porcupine will eat the handle off your shovel to get some..they don't have Mortons in a shaker. The ocean has Mercury and Lead in it, so what? Nothing else does? Certainly not Sea Salt So you think you CAN stay away from Aluminum? Diet Coke doesn't need help from *Tomato Juicer Health Nazis* to taste like crap. Rum and real Coke, a much better source of methanol than Aspertame, along with some useful Glucose...and some Phosphoric Acid to cut the rust out of your belly button. [Naval Jelly] You need Phosphorus to assimilate Calcium, and fruit sugar turns into Glucose anyhow. So now I have a sweet bony rust free belly button. Abs of stainless steel with corn syrup. Use only 4 nines Silver to make CS. Then make some Colloidal Copper as though you COULD avoid Copper. A pre 1965 circulation coin is 90% Silver and 10% Copperwhy NOT use those for electrodes? Refiners use electrolysis to purify metals. It's how they make 4 nines Silver, 4 nines. At under around 24 volts, the Copper will stay on the coin. If it doesn't? So what? 5 micrograms of Mercury in a Vaccine causes Autism, but taking a Mercury spewing diesel bus or a Mercury loaded coal fired power plant charged electric car to the air conditioned doctors office with Tuna Fish sandwiches for lunch, doesn't. You catch and keep what works for you and drop what doesn't. Mercola just throws balls around like every other ex-spurt Professors, profess to know something. Doctors practice medicine. ..and over time, it all changes back to what it was and then to something else as a everybody runs around in circles seeking home base...so they can stop ? Game over. I get a little dizzy, myself...start wandering away from the worry, as though, I might actually be in charge ...of anything. I can't think of a single thing that does the SAME thing, to OR for everyone. Could
RE: CSArthritis vitamin B5
The one I use, bestcmo is animal based. It is the original formula made by Harry Diehl and is highly recommended by Len Sands, an expert in the field. It is more expensive than most because it also contains a proprietary blend of enzymes to make it more bio-available. CMO can be hard to digest. http://bestcmo.com/ If it weren't for this product, I would've already had to have my hip replaced. With this CMO, it's been 4+1/2 yrs since I was told that surgery was inevitable. I am walking better now than I was then. So far, I've taken 3 bottles of this since the dx in June of '06, about 1 every 15 months. Sharon How can I tell if it is plant or animal based? Mine says made for The Vitamin Shoppe. A Proprietary Blend of Fatty Acid Esters. I have been taking it for 30 days, with no results. I have Osteoarthritis in both hips..
RE: CSCODEX The first shot has been fired
For obvious reasons, the site they were in the process of rebuilding is probably now frozen in time. http://www.dewsnatural.com/index.html From: Lisa [mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCODEX The first shot has been fired I am appalled that these things happen and probably more often than we could ever imagine. The bottom line is greed.and it will be the ruin of this country if things like this continue. What's their website? Lisa *** Mrs. Dews told me they had 3 warehouses around the country and will sell off the products that are there, and that will be the end of the Dews Twenty-First Century label. Jim will continue his consulting with Texas AM for awhile. I WISH I had enough spare $ to stock up on so many of their products! I love, and depend on, their Vital Glands, for instance as well as many of their digestive aids. But it's the shampoo, believe it or not, that I will miss the most. It's the best shampoo I have ever used in my life! Unfortunately this is not the whole story. She said they found out that *five* other supplement companies will soon also be put out of business, but she didn't know which ones they were! Sadly reporting, Sharon/starshar
CSCODEX The first shot has been fired
I am both alarmed and furious at the story told to me this afternoon. It's something everyone who depends on any kind of alternate health needs to know, and to spread around. Thus, I am posting this to many places and some of you may see this many times. As a Certified Nutritionist I have the privilege of professional pricing with several companies, one of which I called today for my once a year order. Dew's Twenty-first Century products is not that well known to the general public; I've only noticed some of their products being sold at Dr William Wong's website, though there are sure to be some others. Jim Dews, a chemist, has formulated a superior line of nutritionals for decades in Mineral Wells, TX. He became known to a lot of the 'lay public' after the Biser brothers wrote several of their newsletters about him, circa the late 70s-early 80s. I 'believe, but am not certain, that it was Jim Dews who formulated the original pancreatic enzymes that Dr William Kelley made so well known as part of his cancer cure. For the first time, it was Mrs Dews who answered the phone when I called. When she realized she was talking to a health professional. The flood gates opened and she didn't stop for over 20 minutes. The gov't shut them down just 2 days ago. They had just mailed out a special sale flyer last week, to all their customers. She said it started at least a yr ago. She talked so fast and the story bounced back and forth so I'm not clear on all the details. They had received a notice that their business was being shut down, with no charge and no explanation. Lawyers were paid for and the business remained open I think the next charge was some claim of mislabeling. They hired a lawyer and Dews won that one. Then during the terrible winter rain/snow/ice they were cited and fined well over 100K for their septic field being flooded; never mind that so was eveyone else's for miles, due to the weather conditions. They were told to shut down their business permanently. More legal costs. The next nuisance is just off the wall. They were again fined some huge amount for having wet trash in their rest rooms, i,e, paper towels from hand drying and the other things that are not flushed with a septic system. She said they had a handyman who emptied the trash from a total of 20 employees, 4x during each working day. She said try to find any restaurant that can manage that level of cleanliness. But then came the killer notice. Jim Dews, age 75, was told that he was being forced into retirement and must shut the doors of his supplement business 'forever'. Yes, it's illegal and unconstitutional (anyone remember that document in this land of the free?), but his lawyers gave him a ballpark estimate of what the probable 2 year fight would cost, and he just couldn't do it. The excuse for the forced retirement was that at his age he might make a formulation mistake and put people in danger! On this Monday, 2 days ago, they laid off all 20 employees and shut the factory doors. They had just put $180,000 into updating the factory. Anyone in the area of Mineral Wells? Watch and see if a pharmaceutical takes it over.. Mrs. Dews told me they had 3 warehouses around the country and will sell off the products that are there, and that will be the end of the Dews Twenty-First Century label. Jim will continue his consulting with Texas AM for awhile. I WISH I had enough spare $ to stock up on so many of their products! I love, and depend on, their Vital Glands, for instance as well as many of their digestive aids. But it's the shampoo, believe it or not, that I will miss the most. It's the best shampoo I have ever used in my life! Unfortunately this is not the whole story. She said they found out that *five* other supplement companies will soon also be put out of business, but she didn't know which ones they were! I don't know if this is Codex Alimentarious sneaking in the back door, so to speak, or Big Pharma who wants us all dependent on them, or just plain old Big Brother. At this point I'm not sure it matters just who it is, but what is happening is HUGE and may be noticeable at a health store near you---so to speak. I don't know what we the people can do about this and the similar events that are coming. Nor, do I know what good it might do to spread this all around. I can only hope that the more people know about this, the more ideas for stopping the spread of these shut downs might come forth. Sadly reporting, Sharon/starshar
RE: CScetyl myristoleate
Thanks, Bob. A very good reminder of a healing modality! Sharon From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScetyl myristoleate starshar, You might want to try some acupuncture. It can be wonderful for pain. Bob - Original Message - From: starshar mailto:stars...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: RE: CScetyl myristoleate Hi Day, 4+12 yrs ago I limped into an ortho's office, was thrown into an xray machine, then told my left hip was 'shot' and you are going to need that hip replaced. I 'talked' to various lists, found a post from Brooks, and researched the various brands. My favorite is from Bestcmo.com (off the top of my head). It's a bit pricier than some, but has enyzmes built into the formula, so no stomach upset. I even ignored advice not to drink coffee. End of first bottle and I had no limp; was able to at least get around a supermarket. The following year, another bottle. I forget now whether I've taken 2 or 3 bottles since June of '06. In between I take Glucosamine, occasionally some Celadrin (a bit similar to CMO, but not as potent). I've gone through a bottle or two of collagen capsules, occasionally some gelatin, and even a bottle of hyaluronic acid. In other words, the kitchen sink is my protocol! Somewhere in the past year I discovered I was able to lie on my left side again! Not always for too long, but better than never. My hip is not back to 'normal', I occasionally get twinges and I had a flare back in June that almost sent me back to the ortho (I have not seen him since 6/06). Just as I was ready to break out the bottle of CMO that I have stored in the freezer, the flareup went away, I still do not need to take that waiting bottle yet. My own hip is still attached---yay! Oh, back to that first yr after the dx, I was still dealing with pain and lameness, off and on. I had Pete Egoscue's book, Pain Free, and there were times when I had to follow some of the 'positions' he gives in that book to let my hips settle and realign. CMO! I love it, swear by it! HTH, Sharon I was diagnosed with Osteoarthritis last year. Didn't have any pain until about 2 months ago. I'd call it about a 4 or 5 out of 10. Have it in both hips. I seem to recall that someone on the list had success with cetyl myristoleate. anyone remember something about it? -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
RE: CScetyl myristoleate
Hi Day, 4+12 yrs ago I limped into an ortho's office, was thrown into an xray machine, then told my left hip was 'shot' and you are going to need that hip replaced. I 'talked' to various lists, found a post from Brooks, and researched the various brands. My favorite is from Bestcmo.com (off the top of my head). It's a bit pricier than some, but has enyzmes built into the formula, so no stomach upset. I even ignored advice not to drink coffee. End of first bottle and I had no limp; was able to at least get around a supermarket. The following year, another bottle. I forget now whether I've taken 2 or 3 bottles since June of '06. In between I take Glucosamine, occasionally some Celadrin (a bit similar to CMO, but not as potent). I've gone through a bottle or two of collagen capsules, occasionally some gelatin, and even a bottle of hyaluronic acid. In other words, the kitchen sink is my protocol! Somewhere in the past year I discovered I was able to lie on my left side again! Not always for too long, but better than never. My hip is not back to 'normal', I occasionally get twinges and I had a flare back in June that almost sent me back to the ortho (I have not seen him since 6/06). Just as I was ready to break out the bottle of CMO that I have stored in the freezer, the flareup went away, I still do not need to take that waiting bottle yet. My own hip is still attached---yay! Oh, back to that first yr after the dx, I was still dealing with pain and lameness, off and on. I had Pete Egoscue's book, Pain Free, and there were times when I had to follow some of the 'positions' he gives in that book to let my hips settle and realign. CMO! I love it, swear by it! HTH, Sharon I was diagnosed with Osteoarthritis last year. Didn't have any pain until about 2 months ago. I'd call it about a 4 or 5 out of 10. Have it in both hips. I seem to recall that someone on the list had success with cetyl myristoleate. anyone remember something about it? -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
RE: CSDO NOT CALL LIST
Snopes is still saying false: (I hope they're still correct!) http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp REMINDER: Cell Phone Numbers Go Public this month. REMINDER. all cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sales calls. YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list It will only take a minute of your time.. It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked. You cannot call from a different phone number. HELP OTHERS BY PASSING THIS ON .. It takes about 20 seconds. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDeodorant
This reminds me--I read my last issue (ever, as I'm not renewing) of Dr Jonathan Wright's newsletter. He talked about an email he received from a male reader who told him about this variation on zinc oxide as a deodorant. He told Wright that he rubbed it under his arms at night and he took his shower in the morning. Said the deodorant effect lasted up to 3 days (maybe he lives at the N Pole?) Anyway, Wright was intrigued enough to try this himself and verified that it was, indeed, a great deodorant. Sharon/starshar -Original Message- From: rans...@atmc.net [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 9:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDeodorant I've been using zinc oxide (Desitin) for years now as my only deodorant. I can't tell any kind of excess zinc uptake symptoms from it and I actually take supplemental zinc from time to time to help heal various sprains and such. Now I DO have a problems with tingling mild numbness in both left hand and left foot but both are old problems from old injuries and drinking enough water helps both; they both come back to full feeling most of the time. The hand goes numb when I sleep, it's from a neck injury and the feeling comes back with water and movement. The foot goes numb from too much walking especially in certain shoes, it's a hip injury and the feeling comes back with rest. Nope, don't think zinc is causing it. BTW, in winter sometimes I can skip a day of underarm Desitin or maybe even two days if it's cold enough and I don't sweat. The action lasts that long even with daily washing so long as I don't over-scrub the underarms. I used to have a terrible, awful problem with underarm odor. I used to have to trim my underarm hair every month all year round. With my first taking of ionic silver back in 2000, that was fixed, and from then on it was just regular common daily bacterial underarm odor that I had to deal with. After that I was able to control it with Mennen Speed Stick deodorant only, not anti-per spirant. And then I tried many alternatives to save money and stop filling up the landfill with plastic. Zinc oxide in any form is cheap cheap cheap as a deodorant. One tube lasts many months. My next trick will be to get a pound of the powder and make my own with some mild oil or petrolatum. Only one downer I've found- Zinc Oxide mixed with sweat on certain manmade fiber shirts can actually make an odor that mimics bacterial underarm odor. It's not bad, it leaves as soon as it dries, and it's on the fabric, not the skin. DaddyBob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list- requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Ode Coyote Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDeodorant Excessive zinc absorption can cause nerve problems. [ Numbness or tingling] Some denture adhesives contain zinc and have been pulled for that reason...but it takes long term exposure to absorb zinc faster than it can be eliminated and skin doesn't absorb anything as fast as a palate. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and Lymes Disease
Trust me--it's definitly LYME with no s. Named for the town Old Lyme in Connecticut where it was first discovered. Sharon, former Lymie From: Costumes [mailto:costu...@dnet.net] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and Lymes Disease Ive always heard it pronounced as Lymes too ... jan _ You might have to spell it correctly though. ( Lyme) no s. Dave On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:49 AM, j petras jpetras...@yahoo.com wrote: The silver list ,(Google will bring it up) has archives...tons of information from those who want to know about Lymes. I do not have direct knowledge of its' treatment myself. I hope this helps. John --- On Mon, 9/20/10, Ron Minnick shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Ron Minnick shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com Subject: CSCS and Lymes Disease To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 11:24 AM Hi, my name is Doreen and I am looking for info on treating Lymes disease with CS..thank you in advance
RE: CSMA's brother
I never thought I'd see ANYone else describe the same exact symptoms I get when I need HCL! It's the weirdest thing, and I don't even remember how it first dawned on me that HCL was clearing up the 'want to cry' feeling that came out of nowhere. I then start taking it regularly with meals and after so many days, I end up with acid symptoms elsewhere (like sciatica, for one) and have to stop the HCL and use a bit of bicarb for a couple of days. Before long, the whole merry-go-round starts all over again. Thank you for putting this here, Melly, it keeps me from going over the edge with the feeling that my body is the weirdest one ever born! Sharon Another possibility is low in HCL. As we age, we can be pretty low in HCL. The symptoms of this one, makes you think you will die soon from heart attack, depression with no explanation - just like as if your whole mind and body is so very sad you want to cry, can't get up in the morning, jittery, cold, can't breathe, headaches, etc. I underwent all this and went to MD and he gave me antacid which made it really far worse. I mentioned it casually to my chiro, and he handed me Nutri-west product called Hydra-D. In half an hour i was renewed and fully recovered. He advised me not to take high doses of HCL otherwise body will get lazy in producing it. Hope he fully recovers. Melly
RE: CSA perplexing Problem....
I wonder if, especially with her age, the surgery was long enough, and the anesthesia deep enough, to have caused oxygen deprivation to her brain. Her symptoms sound very similar to what happens to patients after open-heart surgery, and that has definitly been linked to the oxygen deprivation. This may be too simplistic a guess, but sometime the simplest ideas are on target. Extreme nutrition should also be encouraged. Sharon From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSA perplexing Problem A energetic never sick extremely active woman of 68 years recently underwent a complete hysterectomy; within two weeks of surgery she is now depressed has no appetite and has extreme shakes she has never had any surgery's' before and it was her first time ever in a hospital. Her doctors are at a loss she keeps losing weight; her life is slowly seeping away. Has anyone heard of anything like this? I believe the surgery was prompted because of a sys or tumor on her ovaries. Appreciate any input. thanks connie
RE: CSNeed some ideas, please
I also found out this morning that he is on not one, but two statin drugs. :-(MA - From my files: 5/5/2009 Your Brain on Statins By James LaValle, R.Ph, ND, CCN May 5, 2009 I was recently made aware of huge news on statin drugs from the labs at Iowa State University, where a researcher has confirmed something I have long suspected regarding cholesterol-lowering drugs -- that they could seriously harm brain health. The concern comes from simply knowing that brain cells, like liver cells, also manufacture cholesterol. Brain cells need cholesterol for a variety of functions. For instance, cholesterol is a primary component of the protective nerve coating called myelin. If your brain cells didn't need cholesterol, they wouldn't make it. In the past it was assumed that statins primarily affect the production of cholesterol in the liver. However, as a pharmacist I have always thought it was naïve to think that a drug (statins) that circulates throughout the whole body would not affect other cholesterol-producing cells at all. My fears have now been proven correct. Yeon-Kyun Shin, a biophysics professor in the Department of Biochemistry, Biophysics and Molecular Biology at Iowa State, says his research shows that statins do indeed slow the production of cholesterol in the brain which then interferes with efficient brain function.1 His study will soon be published in the Journal of the National Academy of Sciences. Shin found that too little cholesterol in brain cells significantly affected a protein that is needed for the release of neurotransmitters. Cholesterol is needed to change the shape of this critical protein, and in his words, to stimulate thinking and memory. I cannot overstate how important this information is, and how big a ripple this news will cause as it is more widely reported. At least, I hope it will be widely reported. If you deprive the brain of cholesterol, you directly affect the machinery that triggers the release of neurotransmitters, said Shin. Neurotransmitters affect the brain's data-processing and memory functions. In other words -- how smart you are and how well you remember things. As you probably already know, statins lower LDL, and while it is often reported that they can also help raise HDL somewhat, I frequently see people who cannot raise their HDL levels while they are on statin drugs, especially when they are on higher dosages. And other studies have shown that low HDL cholesterol is linked with memory loss.2 Ever since statin drugs entered the marketplace, some users have experienced severe memory problems from them. Some of us have been watching closely to see how wider usage of statins will end up affecting the cognitive function of people using them. Dr. Shin's research conclusively confirms our suspicion that statins can be harmful to cognitive functioning. Our study shows there is a direct link between cholesterol and the neurotransmitter release, he said definitively. The trend in medicine has been to get more and more people on statins, but this could have dire consequences when it comes to long-term cognitive health. One group I am particularly concerned about is people with diabetes. A person with diabetes is in the high-risk category for heart disease, therefore s(he) will be targeted for more aggressive cholesterol lowering. This group is already at high risk for cognitive decline due to blood sugar elevation. To add further insult to a diabetic's cognitive function from statins could be very risky. A study out of UCLA recently found that many people are having heart attacks even though their cholesterol is at or below the 100 mg/dL target. There is no doubt in my mind that this study will be used as fodder to encourage increased use of statins. This will be despite the fact that 21% of the people in the study were using statins, and still had heart attacks.4 The bottom line is this: In addition to their CoQ10 lowering effects, we can add this newest discovery to our growing list of concerns about statin drugs. Kudos to Dr. Shin for this much-needed research and thanks to Ross Pelton, my friend and the co-author of my books on drug-induced nutrient depletion for the information on this very important discovery. References 1. Iowa State University press release, Feb. 23 2008; http://www.public.iastate.edu/~nscentral/news/2009/feb/shin.shtml. 2. Singh-Manoux et al. Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology. 2008;28:1556; http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/28/8/1556?maxtoshow=HI TS=10hits=10RESULTFORMAT=fulltext=HDL+memorysearchid= 1FIRSTINDEX=0resourcetype=HWCITv. 3. http://docnews.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/1/2/1. 4. http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/Health/2009/20091012-MeetingCholesterol. [James LaValle is the founding Director of the LaValle Metabolic Institute, one of the largest integrative medicine practices in the country.] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for
RE: CSNeed some ideas, please
You are very welcome, Mary Ann. This is actually not what I was looking for first. I'm going to check another file for info (hopefully that I saved) on a doctor who lost his memory to the point of amnesia. He had been put on a statin by his cardiologist. Experimentally, he stopped taking the statin and over some period of time, his memory came back. More passage of time and his cardiologist tested his cholesterol and freaked on him, demanding he go back on the statin because it was so high. Same problem, loss of memory and he quit the statin for good--and has written a book about this experience. His story is on the net, but I've got to come up with his name to find it!! If found, I'll post here. Sharon Wow Starshar -- thank you so much -- this is something that I can forward to my brother and his wife -- something they can relate to immediately. Thank you. Mary Ann - Original Message From: starshar stars...@comcast.net From my files: 5/5/2009 Your Brain on Statins By James LaValle, R.Ph, ND, CCN May 5, 2009 I was recently made aware of huge news on statin drugs from the labs at Iowa State University, where a researcher has confirmed something I have long suspected regarding cholesterol-lowering drugs -- that they could seriously harm brain health. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSA perplexing Problem....
Oh my, you sure are having a fun time these days! I don’t have anything saved on this. I’d suggest putting “open-heart surgery” and relevant words into google. Something like “oxygen deprivation” or even just ‘side effects’ should bring up a lot of info. My ex husband had open heart surgery for a sextuple (he never has done anything in a small way!) bypass about 15 yrs ago. He’s still alive (a lot of truth about only the good dying young here inserting evil grin) but he went into a terrible depression that lasted for a long time afterwards. Though it did lift, he still deals with it. To be fair, he’s always had a depression problem, but my children tell me that it really worsened after the surgery. I’ve since found that this is quite common, and it is definitly linked to the oxygen deprivation as, I believe, the blood is shunted outside the body for a time during the surgery. I know I’ve run across recommendations for supplements to protect the brain for this procedure, but I have no idea where. This is something to be careful with as many supplements must be discontinued for some days/weeks before major surgery because of their natural blood thinning effects. Vit E, ginkgo, and possibly even vit c come to mind. Do your research! Best of luck to you both! Sharon Omigod -- what happens to patients after open-heart surgery? My husband is scheduled for it on October 5th. MA From: starshar stars...@comcast.net I wonder if, especially with her age, the surgery was long enough, and the anesthesia deep enough, to have caused oxygen deprivation to her brain. Her symptoms sound very similar to what happens to patients after open-heart surgery, and that has definitly been linked to the oxygen deprivation. This may be too simplistic a guess, but sometime the simplest ideas are on target. “Extreme” nutrition should also be encouraged. Sharon From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSA perplexing Problem A energetic never sick extremely active woman of 68 years recently underwent a complete hysterectomy; within two weeks of surgery she is now depressed has no appetite and has extreme shakes she has never had any surgery's' before and it was her first time ever in a hospital. Her doctors are at a loss she keeps losing weight; her life is slowly seeping away. Has anyone heard of anything like this? I believe the surgery was prompted because of a sys or tumor on her ovaries. Appreciate any input. thanks connie
RE: CSOT hair loss
Hi Dianne, For the overall remediation of the effects of radiation, you would want to emphasize antioxidants. For growing hair, B-complex always comes to mind first. You should look for a very high quality product, perhaps with a food base. There are 3 parts of the whole complex that should be emphasized for hair quality: PABA, Biotin, and Pantothenic acid. You might want to buy those as an addition to the complete complex as the various parts should not be used alone. I wish your mother easy and comfortable healing! Sharon From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:04 PM To: silver-list Subject: CSOT hair loss Hello Group I need some advice for my 85 year old mother. She had a colostomy done 4 months ago due to diverticulitis with partial bowel removal. We almost lost her to pneumonia after the surgery. She is clinically blind. She had a cancer (6 mo ago) in her ear that was removed and small radiation done on the spot. The doctors didn't tell her they did radiation until much later. She has started losing her hair. This has started happening in the last two months and it is coming out by handfuls. I'm afraid she is not eating a proper diet, maybe not enough protein. She lives with my daughter and family. She was always very healthy until this last year. Anyway, I need some advice as to supplements that might help her retain her hair. It is the one thing she has left that she enjoys having fixed. I don't know where to start on this one so I am turning to you guys. Dianne
RE: CSOT: Implants-materials/kinds/questions to ask
Brickey, Thanks for sharing this. Am I really reading that you use a 76 ounce jar or is the 7 a typo and the jar size actually 16 oz? Sharon The dentists mix used to be in the archives. I saw it when Mike said the archives were on line again. In a 76 ounce jar I use 3 Tablespoons of MSM + 3 Tabelspoons of Xylitol. Fill the jar with EIS, add a capfull of H2O2 and shake well. I use a capfull of this mix and add 4 drops of DMSO to brush my teeth.. I believe the Dentist said to saturate the EIS with MSM. 3 Tabelspoons are pretty close to saturation. I use this same mix for sinus cleanses except I add 1 drop of peppermint oil and fill a 12 ounce cup with water. Brickey
RE: CSAnyone see the Today Show garbage about colloidal silver?
Got any hair left, Nancy? I keep tearing mine out! But you've let me know I'm not alone in this situation; thanks for that. Sharon Sharon- I've been thinking about this very thing. When I was a child, my parents and grandparents were a united front to keep us kids in check, and children were to be seen and not heard. But when I grew up I was still in the that younger generation status. OTOH, my children's generation considers their parents old fogey's, and so I find myself in the middle, like you feeling a lack of respect, but in both directions. My children also are not that accepting about using CS, even though they have seen the great results I have had for myself and also animals, because of bad press on various internet sites. Nancy On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM, starshar stars...@comcast.net mailto:stars...@comcast.net wrote: Two of my dearly beloved children (anyway, they used to be!) caught it on ABC World News. Both are freaking out because good ol' Mom gave them CS to help kill a respiratory infection. These are, ahem, 'adults'. I really need something concise, with professional credibility for a rebuttal! And I am a Certified Nutrtition Consultant! I've long paraphrased a well known biblical saying, A prophet is without honor in HER own country. Me'n Rodney; we get no respect! Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAnyone see the Today Show garbage about colloidal silver?
Two of my dearly beloved children (anyway, they used to be!) caught it on ABC World News. Both are freaking out because good ol' Mom gave them CS to help kill a respiratory infection. These are, ahem, 'adults'. I really need something concise, with professional credibility for a rebuttal! And I am a Certified Nutrtition Consultant! I've long paraphrased a well known biblical saying, A prophet is without honor in HER own country. Me'n Rodney; we get no respect! Sharon Does anyone seriously think that the lame stream network, MSNBC, has any credibility? Who watches them anyway? I think they have a viewership of about 8 people. --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSAnyone see the Today Show garbage about colloidal silver? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 6:22 PM send it again _ From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 6:13:49 PM Subject: Re: CSAnyone see the Today Show garbage about colloidal silver? I wrote a comment and somehow it didn't go through!!! Surprising? PT - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: CSAnyone see the Today Show garbage about colloidal silver? http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38542031/ns/health-alternative_medicine/
RE: CSTick Bite
This former Lymie cannot emphasize strongly enough the importance of a minimum of 28 days of Doxy. All the rest should be additional. Otherwise I can't stand antibiotics! Sharon Rowena: Thanks for all your information. I have forwarded it to Jane. It will take a while to absorb. Thanks to all others who have responded. She was back home within 48 hrs of being bitten, and the doc here immediately put her on Doxycycline, 100 mg twice a day for 3 days. According to some postings, that should be continued for more days. She is also using some colloidal silver, which she does not like to use because it previously turned her cuticles silvery gray. I am trying to persuade her to use my olive leaf, oregano oil combination (which I take twice a day) - she is a bit fearful of that because I had such strong detox symptoms when I first started using it. The Salt/C protocol may be too strong for her. She is very sensitive to all meds and supplements. However, she has not reacted to the Doxy yet. I have a Godzilla zapper from V. We also have the therapik, but my understanding is, it is only useful if you get the bite right away. She has already tried the Bentonite clay (with apple cider vinegar I believe). I will have her do more of that. I had a really itchy mosquito bite a few days ago, was driving me nuts, and an application of bentonite clay took the itch away within minutes, and it never came back. That stuff really works. Del - Original Message - From: Rowena mailto:new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:13 AM Subject: Re: CSTick Bite Google Salt and C protocol. Real salt not table salt, or Himalayan, or the chemist's stuff, though I would prefer Himalayan. Might be a bit late to put salt, CS, etc. on the entry wound, but still worth doing. Rowena On 5/07/2010 10:31 AM, Del wrote: Hi: My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on Shelter Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world. Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to deal with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme? My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to eliminate, but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme. There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe that, she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many Lyme articles I have already read, none of which were targeted at what to do right away if bitten. We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if you have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and then the test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, is NOT covered by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not be reliable. Anybody know about that? Thanks, Del
RE: CSTincture of Cayenne
Ack, sudden unpleasant recall. Had to watch my son play soccer on a freezing Dec day. Temps in the low 20s. Heard about the cayenne in the socks trick. I can't begin to tell you how interesting it was to have body frozen all over, including feet, except the bottoms of them were horribly burning. I had only put in a very light amount, too. It was so bad I actually sat down on the sidelines, on the frozen ground, took off my boots and socks and shook the socks out like mad while begging hysterically laughing friends for ANYthing they might have that I could wipe the bottoms of my feet with. That was my One and Only Forever More cayenne in socks experiment. Sharon I would think it would work the same way as people that put cayenne powder in their socks in the winter, to keep their feet warm. If you wanted something like the patch, but couldn't find it, I'd get a small bottle of c tincture and add a little bit of DMSO to it. That would carry it in even faster and deeper, quickly to the blood. Then just rub it on a not sensitive area. Any area works, but you'd want something not as sensitive as say, the stomach. So maybe the thigh? Or upper arm? Many people put DMSO and liquid supplements over the stomach area, but that might burn too much with the cayenne. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I have some stomach issues so if i could use use a patch that would great i would be using this for circulation problems
RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
Hi Tony You say your's is in the refrigerator, but it's in glass. Mine is in the freezer, but it's in plastic. (one of these days I'll dig it out and see how it's holding up!) I'm just trying to weigh the benefits and drawbacks on either side of this storage equation. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only H2O2 packrat! Sharon Hi Shar, Theoretically It will probably have degrade a bit , It looses strength by outgassing slowly. I have 1/2 a litre of the 35% in exactly the same place in my frig, but mine is in its glass bottle, in a strong plastic screwtop transport container. It gets used slowly here and I can't say if it is weaker than it was when I bought it years ago. But the paper label on the bottle has disappeared; eaten by the H2O2 . OK, Tony On 15 Apr 2010 at 15:19, starshar wrote about : Subject : RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP Oh boy. I guess I'd better ask this question. I've had a pint of 35% in the freezer for at least the past 8 yrs. It's buried under and behind everything, and I think I've got it wrapped in foil. Any comments? (just the prinitable ones, please!) ;-) Sharon From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:58 PM Hi Dee, Yes , Take it out of the cardboard tube, You could wrap it in something plastic like bubble wrap if you feel nervous about it it bumping about. It would be good to keep it in a closed plastic container in the frig. And very prominently marked. Umm If somebody does take a drink of it get them to drink water to dilute the h202. There will be copious foam generated which must be burped to release. They must drink glass after glass of water . Maybe take it to your pharmacy to keep for you. OK. Tony On 15 Apr 2010 at 18:06, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP Thanks for this Del--it is scary! I have mine in the freezer but the lid is tightly closed so none gets out. It is also in a cardboard tube. Do you think I should take it out of there? I can't wait to get rid of it actually - and just go back to 3% as I am a bit of a coward about things combustible! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
Oh boy. I guess I'd better ask this question. I've had a pint of 35% in the freezer for at least the past 8 yrs. It's buried under and behind everything, and I think I've got it wrapped in foil. Any comments? (just the prinitable ones, please!) ;-) Sharon From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:58 PM Hi Dee, Yes , Take it out of the cardboard tube, You could wrap it in something plastic like bubble wrap if you feel nervous about it it bumping about. It would be good to keep it in a closed plastic container in the frig. And very prominently marked. Umm If somebody does take a drink of it get them to drink water to dilute the h202. There will be copious foam generated which must be burped to release. They must drink glass after glass of water . Maybe take it to your pharmacy to keep for you. OK. Tony On 15 Apr 2010 at 18:06, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP Thanks for this Del--it is scary! I have mine in the freezer but the lid is tightly closed so none gets out. It is also in a cardboard tube. Do you think I should take it out of there? I can't wait to get rid of it actually - and just go back to 3% as I am a bit of a coward about things combustible! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
T'aint for me. It's for emergencies. The latest TAG may be the best of all!! Sharon Yes, A lot of good it's doing you... Chuck I'm developing TAGrophobia ! On 4/15/2010 3:19:36 PM, starshar (stars...@comcast.net) wrote: Oh boy. I guess I'd better ask this question. I've had a pint of 35% in the freezer for at least the past 8 yrs. It's buried under and behind everything, and I think I've got it wrapped in foil. Any comments? (just the prinitable ones, please!) ;-) Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSChronic Ankle Pain after break (Greece)
Use of *systemic* enzymes between meals and at bedtime to clear up any scar tissue or other left-over 'debris'. Serrapeptase, Wobenzyme, etc. Sharon -Original Message- From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChronic Ankle Pain after break (Greece) Arnica gel. Boiron is made in France, I think. Gayla - Original Message - From: Misc. IP Group m...@ipgroupltd.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: RE: CSChronic Ankle Pain after break (Greece) Forgot to say they're in Greece! So finding acupincturists etc very difficult! -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 06 April 2010 19:42 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSChronic Ankle Pain after break Have broken the same ankle twice I would recommend 2 things... a good acupuncturist and a good chiropractor. If the chiropractor also does acupuncture I would make sure they were a graduate of an accredited acupuncture school and were licensed in acupuncture as well. I would not accept a chiropractor who as done a few hundred hours of training and knows nothing about Oriental Medicine diagnosing. Best of luck. PT PS: nor would I accept an MD who hasn't gone through an accredited acupuncture school. - Original Message - From: Misc. IP Group m...@ipgroupltd.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: CSChronic Ankle Pain after break Very vague symptom descriptions as the problem was passed by word of mouth form a friend to a friend to me!! They've heard about the wonders of CS! Anyway, basically the person broke their ankle about 8 years ago, ever since there has always been a pain in her ankle and if she tries to flex her ankle a lot, she can't due to the pain. She's early to mid 40's. Any suggestions? Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDaily Silver for Rosacea
Hi Day I'll let the others talk about best way to take your CS (I take mine whenever I remember!). I did a small amount of research on rosacea a few yrs go because DH tends to get it. Your mention of arginine waved a red flag since it is a known vasodilator and rosacea is known to have overly dilated veins as part of it's condition. And Dr Jonathan Wright has said many times that rosacea is related to a lack of sufficient hydrochloric acid in the stomach. (why, I don't know!) I've also read elsewhere that some practitioners suggest the possibility of some kind of mite as a cause. That makes me think of using a topical application of CSfrequently! Good luck! Sharon From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:11 PM To: Silver Post Subject: CSDaily Silver for Rosacea I make my CS/EIS with a silver-puppy, a gallon at a time. How is the best way to take about 16 oz per day for my Rosacea? Would prefer to take it all at once. Best on an empty stomach? I take L-Argenine after breakfast with Acai Juice. I take a tsp of MSM, a tsp of VitC, a tsp of L-Lysine, and half tsp of Proline, half tsp of Magnesium all dissolved in water after dinner. (along with my vitamins) -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
CSRE OT, email problems
Thanks Carol. If I could figure out how to deal with the spam factor I would do that. I've had a yahoo address for yrs and have never used it! My Gmail addy is unusable until I can talk to a human being at google (when pigs fly?). So far, comcast has delivered 2 days in a row-yay! Sharon From: carolG [mailto:cgiam...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Some topic trimming, please? Sharon, Why not to yahoo for your email account. I have Comcast services, but never would I use them for email. It's free too. Carolg _ From: starshar stars...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:02:24 PM Subject: RE: CS[List Owner] Some topic trimming, please? Hi Everybody After 3+ yrs of Comcast blocking my favorite list, it's letting me receive it again! (It better last, too)
RE: CS[List Owner] Some topic trimming, please?
Hi Everybody After 3+ yrs of Comcast blocking my favorite list, it's letting me receive it again! (It better last, too) I just had to jump in quickly as I'm roaring with laughter, seeing Mike's (always) tactful post. It's as though I've been here all along! Made me feel right at home again. Happily, Sharon/starshar Hi folks, I've been skating along a day or two behind the discussion the last few days, or I might have posted this yesterday. grin Could we end the threads which mention 'fart' in the subject, please? Also, may I remind everyone that religious topics are prohibited, with the exception of the occasional passing reference? Ken's post mentioning some ideas about Islam (among other things) is WAY into that territory... If you review the list rules (at www.silverlist.org) you'll know that I accept health-related questions and answers on subjects that are not related to CS, so long as they're handled more briefly -- so as to satisfy basic curiosity and direct people to other resources for further research. Meanwhile, most CS topics can, of course, be discussed until exhausted. In practice, you know that I let things run pretty loosely most of the time, and I depend on each of you to discipline yourselves to keep the list functional and the discussion worthwhile. Anyone with questions about CS, please ask. There is a lot of knowledge and practical experience amongst our members. Letting us know what you're interested in right now is the quickest way to nudge the discussion into a fruitful direction for your needs. Be well! Mike Devour silver-list owner -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[List Owner] Standards of proof...
Anyway, thanks for pointing out my misstatements. I will be more careful about that in the future. Not sure if you read the whole discussion though, as there was a lot of email I never got the last couple of days and I have no way of knowing if all the email I sent got through. I think it was Comcast's fault, but am not sure... Cheers, indi I KNEW it-*^%*@ /Comcast WAS acting up again! I went about 36 hours with no email from this list, and probably other sources as well, judging by far lower email volume. Yes, Indi, I think you are pointing the finger in exactly the right direction. I'm glad to see this confirmation of my suspicions! Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIron overload ---for Sol
My attention has been mostly elsewhere, with a family need, but I did pick up enough from skimming here the past few days to notice Sol talking about an excess iron problem. I was just filing something away when I noticed this note I had in the file and thought maybe it would be useful for Sol. If this has already been mentioned here, please just hit 'delete'. Sharon --- Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6): A search on Medline yielded numerous publications that indicated that IP6 held considerable promise for treating some forms of cancer. How does it function biochemically? It has been found in the blood of birds where its function is to facilitate the release of oxygen from hemoglobin. Therefore, the treatment with IP6 would logically work to compensate for the lack of carbon dioxide in the cancer cells and promote the availability of oxygen from hemoglobin. (There is some evidence that it may also act as an oxygen transporter independent of hemoglobin.) It is most interesting to note that its effect on cancer is not to kill the cells, but rather to cause them to revert back to normal cells, as this theory would predict. (David Gregg at Krysalis Sparx) ** (The other option for folks who can't or won't utilize blood withdrawal is using IP6, which is basically purified phytate. Phytates are found in numerous plant foods, and can dramatically lower the rate of iron absorption. However, they can also interfere with the absorption of other minerals, so if you are going to use IP6, it's a good idea to supplement with non-iron minerals, especially magnesium, zinc and calcium. This way, you will preferentially lower iron without causing deleterious changes in your overall mineral status.By the way, don't try lowering your iron using phytates from foods such as soy or whole grain cereals. Do this, and you'll not only be getting phytates, but a whole host of other undesirable anti-nutrients such as lectins, enzyme inhibitors, and glycosides that can interfere with vitamin B6 and vitamin D absorption. In rodent studies, IP6 supplements protect against cancer, but no such protection is seen when the little critters are given an equivalent amount of phytate from cereal grains.In highly active folks, I think IP6 is actually the preferable option. In a typical blood withdrawal, you are giving almost half a liter of blood, which is quite a bit to lose in one hit. If you are in heavy training and lose that much blood, it can really knock you around, which is why blood collection agencies usually advise you to avoid heavy exercise for several days before and after blood withdrawals. However, competitive athletes and serious exercisers may not have the luxury of taking such a break from their training, especially on a regular basis. IP6 allows them to lower their iron levels in a less abrupt and more gradual manner than blood withdrawal.IP6 is something you should take in a cyclic fashion. How much you take and how long you stay on it must be determined by regular blood testing. When I'm using IP6, I take a level teaspoon first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Anthony Colpo)
CSCS: Cancer cure to Debbie
Good book to read is Alkalize or Die Sorry, can't remember the Authors' name. Best, Harold A brain cell woke up on this one. Dr Baroodyfirst name might be, probably is, Theodore. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArmour - Sol
I'm a long time Armour taker and something is definitly going wrong with Forrest Pharmaceutical. For now, all the strengths up to 90 mg seem to be readily available. Higher than that and it just isn't coming through channels. I had to ask for 60mg, double rx, so that I could get my daily 120mg dose. Drugstore readily did that for me. This drugstore, actually part of a supermarket chain, shows on their computer that the higher strengths will be in after 10/31. However, the list owner of the iodine list who is in touch with health professionals who prescribe a lot of Armour was told that it would be Dec before the supply gets freed up. I have not, however, heard any explanation of what this problem is--and it's worrisome! If I could not ever get Armour again, my plan is to try 6 tabs a day of Standard Process' Thyrotrophin. I had read a claim, a long time ago, that 3 tabs would deliver the equivalent of 60 mgs of Armour. I have no way of verifying this. Sharon - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: CSArmour - Sol Sol The following is what I got back from my daughter about the thyroid. Had hoped for more information but the web site is there. She said Walgreens and Walmart both told her they were having problems getting Armour and they were probably discontinuing production. If someone knows where else is carrying it she would like to know. Dianne Subject: Julie Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:25:28 -0400 Mom, I'm on ARMOUR now, 60 mg's. Ultra Raw Thyyroid is what I want to start taking, web sight is www.ultraent.com Thanks! Julie
Re: CSIodine, Allergic ? ( other food problems ) Bromide, cocoa
That does it-I'm leaving the planet on the next ship out. Messing with veggies is bad enough, but anything chocolate?-It's time for anarchy. Just my quiet and humble opinion G Sharon One thing I was sad to find was that cocoa is likely to be sprayed with bromide against mold or whatever in export or shipping. Organic is probably OK, at least one hopes it is not all sprayed automatically at ports or whatever. Cocoa is what makes my coconut oil cookies work. R
Re: CSIodine, Allergic ? ( other food problems )
Hi Sol I have a longish file on bromine, but I'll just put a couple of excerpts here: Bromide is an insidious, additive used in many common products, and as a pesticide. Because of the sheer amount of bromide-supplemented products, exposure to this man-made additive has caused a depletion of iodine in human populations. Studies in lab animals provide alarming evidence that even small amounts of bromide exposure can be toxic. (1) What products contain bromide? Currently, bromide is found in pesticides (methyl bromide), some bread products (potassium bromate), brominated vegetable oil that may be added to citrus-flavored drinks, hot tub cleansers, certain asthma inhalers and prescription drugs, plastic products, some personal care products, some fabric dyes, and as a fire retardant in mattresses, carpeting, etc. (See expanded Products' Discussion Below.) ** Back in 1999, the Center for Science in the Public Interest petitioned the FDA to prohibit the use of potassium bromate, charging that the FDA has known for years that bromate causes cancer in lab animals, but has failed to ban it. (24) As of September 2007, the US FDA responded to Breast Cancer Choices inquir with the statement, Potassium Bromate is still listed as a safe additive. WATER When drinking water containing bromide is exposed to ozone, bromate ion, a powerful oxidizing agent, is formed. Two significant recalls of drinking water involving bromate have occurred: Wegmann's Food You Feel Good About Spring Water Recall in 2006, and Coca-Cola's Dasani in 2004. (25) TOOTHPASTE, MOUTHWASH AND GARGLES Potassium bromate is an antiseptic and astringent in toothpaste, mouth and gargles. Very toxic if taken internally. May cause bleeding and inflammation of gums in toothpaste. (26) BROMIDE IN FLAME RETARDANTS Flame retardants reduce the flammability of a wide variety of commercial and household products. Some brominated home retardants migrate from the products in which they are used and are entering the environment and people. (27) PERSONAL PRODUCTS AND SOME COSMETICS Sodium bromate in Products: Permanent Waves, Hair Dyes, Textile Dyes Sodium bromate is in permanent wave neutralizers, hair dye material, and the textile dyeing process. (28) Benzalkonium is used as a preservative in some cosmetics. (29) ___ Chloride should not be a problem, but chlorine sure is. The website: www.breastcancerchoices.org is loaded with info on all the halogens that displace iodine, and why this is a problem (obviously no help to those with an iodine allergy, though) Sharon M I have been unable to find any serious studies proving the bromine idea. Plus for me personally, I don't use very much processed food, at least ones that contain bromine. Of course, it could be hidden, as is iodine. Maybe chloride is also a problem? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCMO/Glucosamine with MSM
For my arthritic hip, so bad that supposedly I'll need it replaced, CMO has been miraculous. I took one 'course' of it about 18 months ago. Then around June of this yr, the hip started acting up again, so I got another bottle. Like Rowena, I was very casual about taking the 2nd bottle, usually 3 caps late in the evening. Halfway through the bottle, I forgot I had a hip! But, I'm dealing with a nasty case of fibromyalgia, and the CMO has done nothing for that--unfortunately. Sharon - Original Message - From: Rowena To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Re: CSCMO/Glucosamine with MSM Via another lady in Australia, I obtained a supply of EHP Myristin and Myrist-Aid, and also the cream. http://www.cetylmyristoleate.com/ I heard from her recently that she is better, though on the way through the protocol she ended up on crutches. She took the capsules faithfully three times a day as prescribed. She also took Milk Thistle as recommended. I am much improved, and probably about half way through the course. 45 minutes before meals rarely happens for me. I have to be content with taking them when I remember, whenever that happens to be, and as often as I remember. Ditto the cream. I will put some of that on when I remember where I put it after coming home from holiday. I finished off what Milk Thistle I had in the house, and after a gap of 3 weeks or so got another supply. If I remember, I take those twice a day. I do have arthritis, but my main reason for taking them is that I heard that fibromyalgia improves also. R Yes, I used CMO, and MSM and glucosamine, along with ibuprofen and the hot pad and magnets on the knees for pain, and it all worked. I`m now pretty much pain free. Marshalee Do any of you have personal experience and documented the usage of CMO and Glucosamine to recover from arthritis? I would like to know if anyone has kept a daily log with dosages and time line and the results that were obtained. Ernie Patai
Re: CS[List Owner] Some comments and statistics...
Hi gang, I've been on this list forever, except for the long period of time when Comcast blocked it (stifling rant on that topic). I love this list! I think we have the best moderator on the 'net-kudos to you, Mike! I love getting all the varied bits of info that you nice people throw out for all the rest of us. And, yes, I do get a little crazed now and then when the off topic gets overwhelming. When my keyboard needs to be replaced, it will be because of the death of the delete key first. I have been on other lists where the moderation got so tight that the list eventually just died out. I hate to see that happen! Mike seems to step in when the heat gets quite high, and he manages to be so tactful that almost anyone can hang in there peacefully. If this were a referendum, I'd vote to keep the list as is-just reminding others about that wonderful little key called delete! Just my 1+1/2 cents worth, Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome
Brilliant Sharon blushing modestly G You're welcome, Dee This is brilliant Sharon! Thanks for that. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Starshar Date: 17/07/2008 04:40:06 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome? Dan ** Had this in my files. Sharon _ Sleep [2005] 28 (9) : 1069-1075 (Earley CJ, Connor JR, Beard JL, Clardy SL, Allen RP.) Ferritin levels in the cerebrospinal fluid and restless legs syndrome: effects of different clinical phenotypes. STUDY OBJECTIVE: To determine whether patients with restless legs syndrome (RLS) and controls differ in regard to levels of ferritin and transferrin in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) when samples are collected at night, to determine whether patients with early-onset and late-onset RLS show a different outcome for CSF values, and to determine whether the CSF ferritin level correlates with disease severity.
Re: CSRestless Leg Syndrome
Does anyone know of anything that works for Restless Leg Syndrome? Dan ** Had this in my files. Sharon _ Sleep [2005] 28 (9) : 1069-1075 (Earley CJ, Connor JR, Beard JL, Clardy SL, Allen RP.) Ferritin levels in the cerebrospinal fluid and restless legs syndrome: effects of different clinical phenotypes. STUDY OBJECTIVE: To determine whether patients with restless legs syndrome (RLS) and controls differ in regard to levels of ferritin and transferrin in the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) when samples are collected at night, to determine whether patients with early-onset and late-onset RLS show a different outcome for CSF values, and to determine whether the CSF ferritin level correlates with disease severity. DESIGN: Collection of CSF and plasma; assessment of disease severity using objective (periodic limb movements) and subjective (Johns Hopkins Restless Legs Severity Scale) measures of severity. SETTING: General Clinical Research Center. PARTICIPANTS: Thirty subjects with idiopathic RLS (15 early- and 15 late-onset RLS) and 22 age- and sex-matched controls. INTERVENTION: N/A. RESULTS: Nighttime CSF ferritin levels were lower in the total RLS group compared with controls. Further assessment found that the early-onset (less than 45 years of age) but not the late-onset (greater than or equal to 45 years of age) RLS group had significantly lower CSF ferritin levels compared with controls. There was a strong correlation between the age of symptom onset and CSF ferritin values (r = 0.64): the earlier the age, the lower the ferritin level. A regression analysis showed that both sex and RLS subtype had significant effects on the CSF ferritin level, with women with early-onset RLS having substantial lower values than men with late-onset RLS. A comparison between these nighttime CSF values and previously published daytime samples suggests that diurnal changes may have effects on the findings. CONCLUSIONS: This study is distinct in showing that the degree of the CSF-ferritin effect is best defined by the clinical phenotypes of sex and age of symptom onset and by the time of day that samples are collected. Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:56 pmPost subject: Ferritin levels are decreased in RLS The Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine [2006] 147 (2) : 67-73 (Clardy SL, Earley CJ, Allen RP, Beard JL, Connor JR.) Ferritin subunits in CSF are decreased in restless legs syndrome. Restless legs syndrome (RLS) is a neurological disorder that may be related to iron misregulation at the level of the central nervous system. Evidence that iron is involved in RLS comes from magnetic resonance imaging data, autopsy studies, analyses of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF), and correlations of symptoms with serum ferritin. Methods : To further examine the possibility that brain iron status is insufficient in RLS, we determined ferritin levels in the CSF. Specifically, we differentiated between the H- and L-subunits of ferritin, because these peptides are expressed from different chromosomes and have different functions. We measured H- and L-ferritin subunit levels in control and RLS human CSF using immunoblot analysis and found that both H- and L-ferritin are significantly decreased in early but not late-onset RLS. Additionally, we quantified total protein in each CSF sample to establish that the decrease in ferritin subunits in RLS did not reflect a decrease in total protein in CSF. Furthermore, we used equal amounts of total CSF protein in the immunoblot analyses, in contrast to previously published studies that provided only volumetric data, to determine which approach was more accurate for quantifying the amount of ferritin relative to other proteins in CSF. Results : Our results establish a protein standard in RLS, provide a comparative analysis of protein-controlled versus volumetric immunoblot techniques, and argue for a profound loss of iron storage capacity in the brain in RLS, specifically in the early onset RLS phenotype. Conclusions : These data suggest that CSF ferritin levels may provide a biomarker for assisting in the diagnosis of RLS. Neurology [2005] 64: 1920-1924 (Högl B et al) Study supports iron deficiency theory in restless legs syndrome Austrian and Italian researchers find a high prevalence and under-recognition of restless legs syndrome in the general community. In white adults in Europe and the USA, very similar prevalence rates of restless legs syndrome (RLS) of about 10 per cent have been reported. The distribution of disease severity in the general population has not been investigated systematically. Although the negative impact of RLS on quality of life is beyond doubt, very few patients receive drug treatment. Decreased iron
Re: CSHigh Tech Repellant System
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com They picked up the chlorine tabs, and the mothballs, and literally threw them back out the holes! Which turns this into an engineering problem... How 'bout putting those kinds of things in a sturdy metal container with holes in it and anchoring it under there on a chain or a pole? If they can't get at it to move it, they might decide not to live with it. Of course, if you *do* get them to move, you might want to take a look around first and think about where they might decide to move *TO!* Exactly! There are too many temptations available already. I do like your engineering solution though; very creative. Sharon, grateful that the problem is not snakes, scorpions, etc -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHigh Tech Repellant System
Mothballs are a good secret weapon. Couple of years ago a woodchuck was giving me grief. Didn't want to kill him, just wanted him to move on. I was real surprised that a few mothballs thrown in his burrow made him disappear overnight. Chuck When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash. - Oh, how I wish! I've thrown mothballs, chlorine tabs, smoke bombs, and, believe it or not, dried coyote urine under the shed where those fat varmints thrive! They picked up the chlorine tabs, and the mothballs, and literally threw them back out the holes! Back up to the house, watching from the deck, I swear those *%*^ groundhogs came out from under the shed (they've hollowed it out under there) and waved at me. DH got a Hav-a-Heart trap and finally got the whole family. He happily took the last one to a vast wooded wild land a few miles away. The next morning, they either returned, or an interloper took up residence and proceded to reproduce. My neighbors had their own problems with the critters housekeeping under their slightly raised deck. She called me a few yrs ago with apologies because her husband was parking the truck next to the deck and playind several hours of heavy metal music at top volume (I silently shook my head). I think they were doing the woodchuck dance. We've given up; just reluctantly coexisting Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBlood vessel health
A very big help would also be Rutin, which comes from buckwheat. It is in the bioflavinoid family and will really tone up blood vessels. And consider anything that is recommended for varicose veins---same idea. Horsechestnut products are sold for this. The mineral, silica, is also excellent for blood vessels. Sharon M Can anyone tell me the best protocol for strengthening weak blood vessels please. My husband suffers from bleeds into the eye a lot and I am worried because there is a weakness in his family for this (two died of it) he started 1200mgs of vit C the other day, and almost immediately, had a bleed in the eye, so I am assuming this would not be the thing for him. He also had 'a turn' a couple of years ago when supplementing with a fairly high dose of Omega 3 so again I assume that this would not be the way to go either. Any help appreciated. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdrinking water
Well water is also said to be naturally structured. Sharon M I originally prepared this post for another group but thought that some people here might also be interested. I'll start with what I do and then say a few things regarding the rationale behind it. I take a disposable plastic bag, pour some tap water into it, put this into the fridge, keep it there until about 60-70 percent of the water freezes, remove the bag, drain and discard the remaining water, break the ice, put it in a glass jar, and drink the thawed water. The two main reasons for doing it are: the water gets structured and a lot of contamination that was present in the water is removed. Concerning the structuring bit, it does not refer to some esoteric process. It has been very well explained scientifically by now. I did not specifically try to research this subject. I first red about it in an old popular scientific book published in the Soviet Union. It boils down to ice water being very similar in structure to the water inside the body. The author said that .as it was found out, plasma membranes of most body cells as well as gigantic live molecules attract water molecules that are much smaller and arrange them in a very specific order, creating an ice-like matrix. The ice cover gets thicker with increasing molecular size. Cell protoplasm and interstitial fluid are filled with countless icebergs. The organism freezes a fairly large amount of its water! Today drinking this water is strongly promoted by many Russian alternative medicine authors. They speculate that it may the reason why in the areas with melting ice microorganisms multiply profusely or birds come to the north from Africa to breed, etc. As for purification, it is the same process by which ice formed in the sea is salt free. When water freezes it drives out foreign molecules. This is why you only freeze about 60-70 percent of the water and let the impurities accumulate in the unfrozen portion to be thrown out later. One recommendation that I currently forgo concerns heavy or deuterium water. It is naturally present in all water and it is also dead water. As it freezes at +3.8 degrees Celsius, the advice is to wait until a thin crust is formed on the walls of your container in the fridge put the water from it into another container to be used as described above and get rid of the deuterium water ice. For now I skip this step. Concerning the taste, I might say that it tastes very good, this however would be somewhat misleading as there is actually very little taste to it. A better way to put it would be to say that it feels very nice and refreshing, especially if drunk when still cold. By the way, I am not to be regarded as an expert on the subject. I just tried it, liked it, and drink it. Sergey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiguring Out the True Cause of Fibromyalgia
And I have just started back on another course of this same brand. I had 2 bottles, 1/2 full from about 18 months ago. I am determined to stay attached to this doggone misbehaving hip! And I've got FM and did not realize that CMO could also be helpful for that! Sharon I have just started a course of CMO, which Daddybob has waxed lyrical about in the past. I was just sent this link http://www.cis9.com/index.html which is encouraging to read. As well as the arthritis I am taking it for, I see: Some practitioners have theorized that, in the case of arthritis for example, CMO merely acts upon pain receptors at the arthritic site. If that were so, CMO's effects would not be permanent. Furthermore, that theory cannot explain: a.. how CMO lowers blood sedimentation rates in lupus patients b.. or how it reverses lung inflammation in emphysema, c.. or how it lowers the need for insulin in diabetics, d.. or how it reverses prostate inflammation, e.. or how it relieves certain symptoms of multiple sclerosis, f.. or how it corrects Crohn's disease, g.. or how it reverses fibromyalgia, h.. or how it reverses lung damage in sarcoidosis patients, i.. or how it lowers high blood pressure yet elevates low blood pressure, j.. or how it benefits virtually any ailment with autoimmune components. Obviously, CMO is a general remedial immunomodulator that acts upon the memory T-cells which control the autoimmune processes within our bodies. Those who speculate otherwise have misunderstood the biophysiological actions of CMO within the body. Now that fibromyalgia reference interests me very much indeed! Rowena
Re: CSBrooks Post Collection
This is greatly appreciated, Wayne. During the long period of time that Comcast would not send me this list, I missed an awful lot of good info. I am really glad to get all of Brook's posts. Big thanks, Sharon I have added this file to the collection at CS_Notes. http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/brooksbradley/ Of see them all at http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ You can sort folders or files by clicking on the headers, We may have more later. I think I have most of the ones the Brooks stated was lost. ( this was due to his bad fire I think ) Time for everyone to back up the Off Site Backup I suppose. I do not have 1996 until 1999 or 2000. Or... whenever I joined the silver list. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrooks Post Collection
Ok, I'll attempt to practice patience ;-) Sharon Evening Sharon, At 10:53 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote: I am really glad to get all of Brook's posts. Who said you had all of them. grin Likely barely 10 %, maybe 20. I am working on processing many more. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas:How to use site Now: Lyme for Mary Ellen
Hi Mary Ellen, Welcome! Please don't limit yourself to this one group, where the focus is on using 'colloidal'/EIS silver. The 'net is so full of Lyme info/treatments that you could spend a month researching before coming up for air. You might want to get on one or more lists at yahoogroups that focus strictly on Lyme. If you go to yahoogroups.com and put Lyme in the search engine I think you'll find at least a 1/2 doz lists. Here is one site where the treatment is highly recommended by many with long term Lyme: http://www.gaianstudies.org/ Here is a comprehensive site with links for further info (including the 'famous' salt/C protocol): http://www.successfulhealing.com/lyme-disease-resources.htm More: http://thehumansideoflyme.net/index.php http://www.lymesite.com/ http://lymecommunity.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/cfrm And that's just a small sample of the 100s of links about Lyme May you find wellness! Sharon (Lyme disease in '01. Used GALLONS of CS, etc) - Original Message - From: marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: CSWas:How to use site Now: Lyme for Mary Ellen Hi Mary Ellen. First of all, welcome to the silver list. I hope that you find the help that you need here, and in turn can help others in the future. Second, I am very sorry that you're sick with Lyme -- it's a terrible disease. I personally am in the middle of a round of antibiotics to ward off an infection, after being bitten by a Lyme tick six weeks ago. It's my understanding that once the Lyme infection is established in your system, you will need intravenous antibiotics to defeat this disease. Medical doctors would have to treat you with that -- have your doctors made that recommendation? Also, I wonder if you couldn't find someone to give you intravenous Colloidal Silver? You'd need an alternative doctor, that's for sure. Anyway, there are people here who have had success with electrical treatment, and I'm sure they'll speak up. Just wanted to let you know you're among friends. Mary Ann -- Original message from Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- I have posed a question. This is the third time. Most forums have different way to stay on top of questions. But here goes again. I have Lyme. I wss referred to this site from Wolf Creek who supplies diatamatious earth, and the terminator zappper, and colloidal silver. Someone there has been on this forum and has said that she has worked with people that have Lyme and use these products. Anyone had success. I a pretty sick and sorry for the impatience. I am desperate. The Lyme is ruining my life and need a good protocol to and wondering if anyone has used these products with Lyme with success. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From:! ohana9 @juno.com [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use site The site you are in touch with - silver-list@eskimo.com - the archives are down so all you have to do is to pose a question on what you would like information on and there are many of us here ready to assist - Regards Sandee Peace is easy . . . It is a mind set www.aliveagaingrenada.com Find solutions for your business. Click here and get it done now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m7tDKQye1Rg2PomdGA7QaMdGv d89txoB8fUp6BSWnYpfhIE/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: htt! p://sil verlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAg4O4
Just saw on another list that Duncan just got married in the last week or so. Looks like he's easing himself back on the 'net Sharon From: bob Larson good idea, Dee. if he doesn't chime in here in a bit i'll send him a note. -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAg4O4 Duncan Crow is *definitely* the person to help you with this Bob, as he is very knowledgeable on the whey/glutathione protocol. Is he still on this list; because I don't seem to see many posts from him' but he does have a website. I know he is on the candida list though. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfood prep with cs
All my produce gets washed,dried, then sprayed with CS before refrigerating. Lasts 2-3 times longer with the CS spray than without. *when* I remember I also top off an open bottle of milk/cream with CS and it lasts a lot longer also. Sharon - Original Message - From: Judy K To: mama000105-sil...@yahoo.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:46 AM Subject: RE: CSfood prep with cs Yes -- especially for fresh cider. I add a tablespoon to a bottle. Being a recovering alcoholic, I don't want it to turn. Also, I have water for emergencies, and add 1/4 cup per gallon. Seems to be enough. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: mama000105-sil...@yahoo.com [mailto:mama000105-sil...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSfood prep with cs Does anyone use cs in food preparation to inhibit spoilage? If so, how do you do it?
Re: CSsafe deposit boxes- a true story
Serendipity. I just came across this line while reading a financial article: Federal agents should be empowered to supervise the opening of each deposit box and summon for penalty all those who cannot satisfactorily explain the possession of sequestered money. - New York Times, March 9, 1933 (page 2) Sharon - Original Message - From: T. J. Garland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: CSsafe deposit boxes- a true story I did this personally this last Tuesday. No urban legend. I can assure you that they think as I do. I am certainly on the list for a HS conc. camp cell. See the quote below. Those who have the privilege to know, have the duty to act-- Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Rowena To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: CSsafe deposit boxes- a true story TJ, are you saying this happened to you? And recently? Cos this story has been around for two years already, and was classed as urban legend even then (well, it would be, wouldn't it, even if it were true?) But oh, dear, TJ, you seem to have published the email addresses of your friends as well as the story. They might not thank you for that. R I use a small locally owned bank and know all the tellers very well. I had heard a rumor that ALL banks were briefed by Homeland Security about a new procedure last fall. I casually asked a female teller when she had her homeland security briefing-- Nov. or Dec? She asked how I knew about the secret briefing.. I said I was a stockholder and tried to keep up on the bank's progress.
Re: CSchemtrails
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp If memory serves me I've even seen contrails and chemtrails on the same day, though I don't keep records of the sightings and wouldn't swear to this. I'm positive that I've witnessed the high-altitude chemtrail flights concurrent with trail-less inbound and outbound commercial aircraft. There are many videos of the activity that correspond with my own observations. I'll swear to it! It's a frequent occurrence here in SE PA Sharon (starshar) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbest tick repellent
I've got a herd of a dozen or so deer romping around here daily. I got Lyme in '01 partly because of my bad habit of walking around my patch of woods barelegged and barefooted. Unwilling to change my Daisy Mae attire, I made my own tick repellants. In a spray bottle half filled with water I put in a 'bunch' of drops of peppermint oil. Just to confuse the ticks, and amuse myself, I keep 2 other bottles, one with tea tree oil in the water, and the other with palmarosa. The last is because I actually read somewhere that palmarosa repels ticks. I use any one of these at a time. I keep these bottles near the door out of the garage which is where I exit to walk the dog around. That way, I figure, I have a better chance of remembering to spritz this stuff all over right before I go into tick heaven out there. So far, no tick bites, though I did find 3 on me last year but they weren't 'biting'. Considering that I've got at least 120 'barefoot days', I'm thinking my repellants work! Sharon/starshar
Re: CSSciatica
I've had a few bouts with sciatica, enough to know I don't want to experience another one. The first one I ever had was long before there was an internet to get so much wonderful info from. Hitting my reference books at the time, I learned that it was probably from an overly acidic condition that was irritating the sciatic nerve (I now know that I have degenerated disks that made the area susceptible to this acidity.) I had been experimenting with heavy doses of ascorbic acid, so this made sense. I used small amounts of bicarb, 1/4 tsp here and there and found it very helpful. Some more research uncovered the role of thiamin/B-1 in alleviating anything to do with both an acid condition as well as anything to do with nerves. In the past 2 yrs I've kept Benfotiamine in the house and any time the sciatic nerve acts up, it's the first thing I reach for. It's a form of B-1 used by diabetics for thier diabetic neuropathy, and it's fat soluble. Works wonders for sciatica! Of course, till the flare up dies down, I also use a heating pad, Advil, sometimes 1/2 valium while waiting for the Benfo and bicarb to do their wonders. Starshar Hi, Dianne, For Sciatica relief, I'll second the suggestion of taking L-Lysine! Worked for me. I'd suggest also adding Vitamin E to help combat internal scarring. You can google stretching exercises, the one that worked the best for me was stand with hands on hips and knees slightly bent, arch back slowly and slightly. Let us know when you start feeling better! Take care, Cindy L-lysine is an essential amino acid for humans and therefore must be supplied in the diet. For years, lysine has been considered in the treatment of herpes and cold sores, and more recently, has been attracting attention as a possible addition to the fast-growing list of muscle-building nutrients. L-lysine helps to build muscle protein, it is good for those recovering from surgery and sports injuries. http://www.herbs-wholesale.com/article/l-lysine.asp Vitamin E belongs to a family of fat-soluble compounds. It is available in different forms, the most common and potent being alpha tocopherol. Its main function is as an antioxidant. It Beneficial Effectss destruction of fats and vitamin A in the body by oxygen fragments. The vitamin also Enhances in the production of hormone-like substances that regulate blood pressure, reproduction, and muscle contraction. http://www.herbs-wholesale.com/Vitamin-E-512_info.htm
Re: CSurinary tract infection
I started having problems with repeat UTIs about 10 yrs ago. First time, I had no idea what hit me and ended up in Drs office. ABX for 10 days, and the darn thing came back 3 days later. Then I discovered CS. I'm a kitchen sink kind've person, so I've knocked UTIs out of my life permanently by putting a scoop of D-Mannose in 1/2 cup of CS, and frequently put about a tsp of uva-ursi, and whatever other liquid herbals for the urinary tract that I may have around. Taking even one dose of the above at the first sign that an infection *might* be showing up has forestalled every one. Oh--right before I discovered CS, I did use Lugol's iodine successfully--6 drops 4x a day. I will sometimes put a drop or two of Lugol's in the above 'recipe'just for the heck of it. Sharon M
CSRe:Start learning what to do Walter Russell .. Atomic Suicide
I believe the title is The Man Who Tapped The Secrets of the Universe, and the author may be Glenn Clark. This little gem of a book is buried somewhere in my stacks of books. His late wife was actually named Lao. Sharon From: Faith Saint Francis YESSS!!! Indeed! So very easy, and yet I have tried all the mnemotechniques I know, to no avail .. am I getting elderly anyhow? Seems ye can't avoid. Seriously: This Ätomic Suicide? is one book we should all read. It is profound, and it requires at least the basics of maths and physics, but it is good reading, and it does not obscure any of the hazards of the Atomic/Neutronic/Plutonic and what more ~nics there are, that we, the human race, so arrogantly fool around with. I have lost the book, and also that precious title The man who sapped (Sapped???) the Secrets of the Universe. Wonder if it is still available somewhere. For your information respected name-sharer, if you browse Walter Russell, you'll find some very interesting information about him (and maybe about Tao, this special soul, his wife as well.)
Re: CSCS safety
I mentioned this a few yrs ago but I don't think anyone noticed. For one of the best electrolyte formulas, far superior to Gatorade, go to: gookinaid.com Used by athletes worldwide. The sweetener is pure glucose which is at least better than sucrose, let alone fructose. Sharon I used to add Gatorade to my CS, until they started adding high fructose corn syrup to it. As soon as I saw that on the list of ingredients, I stopped using it, and advise everyone else to do the same. I don't think there is any Gatorade for sale now that does not contain HFCS. Del -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS'Health Canada strikes
I have bought silver band aids made by Curad, though they're not that easy to find. Sharon From: G Murray healthl...@gmail.com We do too, but I was wondering what other big name pharma was selling them Deborah Gerard wrote: Our dollar stores here in Michigan sell band-aids that have silver in them...debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBuffered Vitamin C
It's the doggone humidity! When I opened my 3/4 empty jar of buffered vitamin C (first time after being gone for a month), there were brown tiny beads all over it, whereas it's supposed to be pure white powder. I doesn't appear to be bugs, but does anyone know what happened here? Pat
Re: CSTorn retina, laser treatment
Hi Mike, In July of '05, while having my first cup of coffee and reading something, I suddenly had flashing lights around my right eye. No injury to account for this. A bit later some big floaters were in my field of vision. I was in the eye doc's office (a first for me) an hour after I left the ER. Detaching vitrous humour. Treatment: none I added the herb Bilberry to my daily supps, more Vit C, and ramped up on natural Vit A (not beta carotene). I occasionally use Chuck's eye formula, basicly a 'tea' made with very warm CS and an eyebright capsule steeped in it, along with MSM, filtered through a natural coffee filter. Haven't tried the addition of DMSO yet. Problem has not recurred, though occasionally a floater will swim up from the sidelines. No big deal with that. I'm sorry I can't address the laser surgery. I wish you luck and the wisdom for the right decision! Sharon Greetings my friends, I had an interesting day today. Background: Late last week I was working under one of our cars and managed to whap myself hard on the outer third of my left eyebrow and eye with the handle of a screwdriver. (Note to self: a screwdriver is not a pry bar...) Two days ago I noticed that I'd actually given myself a bit of a black eye; the fold of skin between the eyelid and brow was a little bruised and sore. This morning I noticed a few sparks of light along an arc on the left margin of the vision in my left eye. I wasn't overly concerned, but made a mental note to keep an eye on them. (Pun intended.) About noon I set out to do some errands. I'd just pulled up to a stop light when I noticed a strange dark fluttering object flickering in and out of existence on the dash board... Actually, it was in my left eye. Once I'd managed to focus on it, I realized I was seeing a perfectly rendered image of a very small blood vessel bleeding into my eye. I was literally seeing the tiny dots of red blood cells streaming out from a point and dissipating, much like smoke from a chimney in a light breeze. It left a diffused scattering of tiny translucent dots strewn across my field of vision, which shifted back and forth with the vitreous humor as I moved my head or shifted my eyes. Needless to say I was concerned. I called my wife on the cell phone and told her what was going on. She volunteered to call the opthalmology clinic she'd gone to before and see what they suggested. I ended up with a 3:30 appointment. I finished my errands, meanwhile watching as the bleeding seemed to stop and re-start several times over the next couple of hours. The exam (administered at various points by a resident, a medical student, the attending physician and a laser specialist) did not reveal the bleeding, which leads me to believe that it is truly microscopic in scale and unlikely to be a major issue itself. However, they all did find a torn spot on the inner, lower verge of my left retina, and some posterior vitreous detachment to explain the bleeding and some of the 'floaters.' One of the tests the resident did (look straight ahead, how many fingers am I holding here... here... etc.) revealed a small gap in my peripheral vision at the upper left edge of my left eye field, which I don't remember noticing before and probably corresponds with the current injury. The doctors feel it is a good candidate for laser treatment to tack down the edges of the area to prevent fluids from getting behind the retina to cause further damage. To complete the picture: Interocular pressure was slightly high in my *right* eye, not in the left. The retinas look otherwise healthy. The nerves may have a slightly elevated cup to disk ratio which might be a very early sign of other things like glaucoma... or nothing significant. My corrected vision is still very good and clear. Since the exam I now have somewhat more floaters in my left eye, including a rather extensive one right in the middle, possibly a consequence of all the poking, probing, dilating and numbing, or else an independent continuation of whatever is going on inside my eye. I'm scheduled for a laser repair Friday afternoon. I could have had it done today, but, in the absence of a critical situation, I decided to give myself time to do at least a little research before going ahead. Okay, folks, now's your chance... Pros and cons of laser treatment to tack the torn spot back down? Should I rush, or give other things a try first? Alternative or complementary therapies that can stop or help repair the damage? Long term strategies to prevent future problems? Anywhere else I should seek advice? In reviewing my archive of the list messages, I've seen some good comments on the laser surgery; there's Chuck's concoction of CS, MSM, DMSO, and eybright tincture (for floaters and general health); Marshall mentioned organic germanium as a treatment for
Re: CSMMS
I've got the group's home page open now; here's a copy and paste from the header: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MDI_News/ It should work, and you can sub from there Sharon That did not work: We are unable to deliver the message from mdud...@king-cart.com to mdi_news_subscr...@yahoogroups.com. Your message was sent to a group that does not exist. Please check to make sure you spelled the group name correctly. For further assistance, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotassium ( Jodi's File Filename )
Thanks for this, Wayne. I had that site bkmkd long ago and may even have that article saved on an old CD. I found out about 2 yrs ago that Joe Viallis had died, though I did not learn the cause. He had a very interesting website that was mostly politically oriented. I'm glad to ensure I have the Potassium article again. Sharon I forgot .. the file name is potassium_01.doc http://www.fugitt.com/files/
Re: CSWaving Hi
From: S-Max s...@emotap.com Hi Sasha, It's been a bad day around here; seeing your message just made it a lot better. Thank you!! Sharon Sharon, Hi. Sasha here. Waving back at you. .~**`..''*..~`''~..~''`~..*''..`**~.. (That's a wave) Missed you and WELCOME BACK We haven't been the same without you. It is definitely different around here, and I for one, am lovin' the difference. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWaving Hi
Hi list, I'm writing this note with great excitement. I am a Comcast subscriber who lost this list 18 months ago. Comcast arbitrarily blocked anything from eskimo because of a few complaints. For some reason, the CS list started rolling in again for 2 wks in Aug of '06, then disappeared 'forever' from my inbox. I am a very long time subscriber and this disaster left me distraught, depressed, discouraged, and downhearted G, (my typing fingers got stuck on the letter D). About 2 wks ago, a very wonderful, kind hearted member of this list (hi Bob!) started forwarding the messages to me. Shortening this saga as much as possible, a few other comcast members learned of this and said they were getting the messages. I wrote to Mike, resubbed, and voila! I've been getting the list for the past week. I'm a happy camper again! Having been 'absent' for a year, I'm really able to notice quite a change in the 'flavor' of the CS list. For instance, in this past week, I think I've seen no more than *2* posts that mention CS!! (perhaps it would be more correct to say EIS) It's ok for me; I boned up on the subject a long time ago. It's just funny not to find ANYthing that mentions the list topic! As always, however, the range of subjects that do get talked about is still of interest. The other thing that stands out, though, is the far higher amount of 'pot shots' folks are taking at each other! Wha hoppen? Sign of the times? Anyone have suggestions for some 'happy pills'? Just kidding (a bit). I am so happy to have this list coming in again (and in incredible numbers---holy cow!) Again, just saying hi Sharon/starshar -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast
From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:20 PM Mike, I seem to be getting the silver list e-mails on Comcast again. Since 12-11-06. Ditto here! .Ever since Eskimo's latest fix. Concidental? Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
From: vwol...@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:30 PM Caught a good program on PBS the other day...about a program called H.O.P.E. I am thinking of trying the products outlined in this program but I would like to hear from others who may have tried it firsthave you ever heard of it? I'm sorry, I know nothing about this Way back in May of this year I finally caved and accepted meds for the high blood pressure...nothing but problems since and the kicker is ...the pressure still isn't going down. There are so many ways people have found to lower/normalize their blood pressure, that books have been written But I'll pass along one that I have personal knowledge of. The man in my life fights me tooth and nail over trying to get supplements into him, so I gave up the idea of pills for him. He started taking prescription meds and I couldn't do anything to prevent that. What I did was get rid of all the regular supermarket salt in the house. He's used nothing but the best seasalts for the last 5 yrs. His BP dropped to normal within a few months but the doc wouldn't agree to take him off the meds. See, they're working said he (my comments to this are unprintable) But a yr ago, in prep for major ENT surgery, that doc told him to stop the meds a month before. A year later, no meds, no supps, but perfect BP. Good ol' seasalt. I switch around between Celtic, Real Salt, and Himalayan. And, BTW, this is a man who salts Bacon and Ham!! The old time docs used to just give their hi BP patients potassium and found that it worked beautifully for most of them. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes/ OY...
From: vwol...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:54 PM So...it is spelled Curcumin...is this the same as Cumin...the spice one uses in Chili Dishes? V Hi V, You've probably seen other posts by now that tell you that Circumin is one of the ingredients found in the spice called Turmeric. Many supplement manufacturers have extracted the pure circumin and encapsulated it for those wishing a stronger dose. Since I can't stand the taste of turmeric, that's how I take my circumin. Vitamin Research Products is one of many who produce these capsules. Anyway, learning from Chuck, I warm up an oz or 2 of CS, open an eyebright cap ***(Eyebright as in the Herb?) into it, making a tea, stir in the MSM,***(do you think this would work without the MSM?) let it steep, then strain. Haven't tried putting in any DMSO, but that'll be next I use Dr John Christopher's formula, now made by Nature's Way and it is an herbal blend called Eyebright. The eyebright herb is the dominant one in the formula. The MSM is a good carrier for all the other ingredients, seems to potentiate the formula a bit. Never thought about using it regularly for the floater/s I now have since the vitreous in my right eye starting detaching last year. That was a fun day that started with flashing lights and ended with the fat black floater; that's when I ended up in the ER and then an eye Dr's office. Had the exact same experience...did this really clear up the floaters??? Do you still have the lights ? There is still occasional evidence of the floater, very small. I think it has parked itself in the outer corner of the eye, only to show up when I look at strong light or move my head in some way. The lights, thank God, have not shown up again. If they do, I'll have a genuine panic attack! I make sure to take Vit C every day, accompanied by a Bilberry capsule, and also pycnogenol, as that is said to be helpful with detaching eye parts. I should probably add lutein, but have not gotten around to it. There are good eye supplements on the market that have that, along with other ingredients all in one capsule. One, called Occudyne, springs to mind. HTH, Sharon/starshar -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:13 PM Eh... I if have to go thru all of this everytime I mention MY floater regimen sigh grin! I keep repeating my version of your formula, Chuck, around the 'net also. I'm posting some info from my files I'm posting to see IF my post shows up on the list (at this point that event will look like a Christmas gift!) Anyway, learning from Chuck, I warm up an oz or 2 of CS, open an eyebright cap into it, making a tea, stir in the MSM, let it steep, then strain. Haven't tried putting in any DMSO, but that'll be next I've only used this for the occasional appearance of tiny cysts on my eyelids. It's great for this, the darn things just detach after a few rinsings in an eyecup. Never thought about using it regularly for the floater/s I now have since the vitreous in my right eye starting detaching last year. That was a fun day that started with flashing lights and ended with the fat black floater; that's when I ended up in the ER and then an eye Dr's office. Sharon/starshar And here's some info I saved to a file: Curcumin Treating eye disorders Curcumin is apparently more than your typical kitchen spice. It's the substance that gives ginger its yellowish colour, and it has been implicated in the treatment of certain eye diseases and conditions. One of those is known as chronic anterior UVEITIS (CAU), an inflammatory condition of the vascular layer of the eye, particularly the area comprising the iris. In one small study, Curcumin was given orally to 32 chronic anterior uveitis patients who were divided into two groups. The first group received Curcumin alone, whereas the second group received a combination of Curcumin and antitubercular treatment. Amazingly, all of the patients treated with Curcumin alone improved, compared to a response rate of 86% among those receiving the combination therapy. The researchers concluded that Curcumin was just as effective as corticosteroid therapy, the only available standard treatment for chronic anterior uveitis at present, adding that the lack of side effects with Curcumin is its greatest advantage compared with corticosteroids. Similar research using rats and rabbits found that Curcumin effectively inhibited chemically induced cataract formation, even at very low dietary levels. The same study also found, for the first time, that this type of induced cataract may be accompanied by apoptosis of epithelial cells in the eye and that Curcumin may lessen the apoptotic effect. In one of the earliest studies examining Curcumin as a potential cataract therapy, researchers fed two groups of rats, diets that included corn oil, or a combination of Curcumin and corn oil for 14 days. Afterward, their lenses were removed and examined for the presence of lipid peroxidation. The scientists discovered that the lenses from Curcumin-treated rats were much more resistant to. induced opacification than were lenses from control animals. Awasthi S et al. Curcumin protects against 4-hydroxy-2-trans-nonenal-induced cataract formation in rat lenses. Am J Clin Nutr 1996 Nov;64 (5):761-6. Lal B et al. Efficacy of curcumin in the management of chronic anterior uveitis. Phytother Res 1999 Jun;13(4):318-22. Pandya U et al. Dietary curcumin prevents ocular toxicity of naphthalene in rats. Toxicol Lett 2000 Jun 5;115(3):195-204. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSList traffic report...
Here's a reply from a long time list member who's given up hope on ever seeing the list again (outside of Mike's posts, that is). But I've blamed it all on Comcast and their very *stupid* spam filters. Oddly, though, there are maybe 2 days a week when I do get the list messages. But the offtopic list has Never showed up since Comcast decided it hates Eskimo Sharon/starshar, with fingers crossed - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: CSList traffic report... Okay, for those who are saying you haven't received anything from the list, here's my report on list traffic for you to compare with: Dec 10 ... at least 6 so far, including this Dec 9 ... 9 posts Dec 8 ... 14 posts Dec 7 ... 24 posts ... and so on. If you have not received that number (or close) but you've received *my* postings to the list, then incoming mail is still hosed somehow. If you have not received *anything* from the list for several days, then you may be unsubscribed (in which case you're not seeing *this* message either!) or else Eskimo is being blocked or diverted into your spam filters. As I predicted, Robert has reconfigured things to prevent a recurrance of these problems, setting it up so that incoming mail bridges two machines, either of which can handle the incoming volume with immediate fallback in case of failure of one. I'm letting him know of the complaints we're having here so he can make sure something he's done hasn't introduced another problem. I won't mind if you all make test posts, or reply to a test post of somebody else, so we can be sure you're subscription is functioning normally. If it is not, try to reach me directly at mdev...@eskimo.com If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, even briefly, send a note via anybody you see whose message got through to the list recently. One way or another we'll work this stuff out. sigh Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast
From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:10 PM Well, after cajoling, threatening, and badgering Comcast, I appear to be receiving the silver-list, at least for the time-being... Oh wow---posts ARE showing up! I propose 3 big cheers for somebody-Mike, did you get this accomplished? Sharon, a happy camper once again! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS'scuse the interruption, but..
Yippee, the list is getting through to this Comcast subscriber! Whatever you did, Mike.. THANKS Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo
Hi Mike, stars...@comcast.net THAT explains why I'm getting no cs posts! I got this one, oddly enough. I've got a user forum open this minute. Before posting my loud complaint (I went through this last Spring with many lists---thought they'd finally solved it) I found this message back to a user: You can't whitelist a server. If the sources are receiving bounce messages that indicate their mail server is being blacklisted by Comcast, then those bounce messages will contain the IP address that needs to be sent to comcast--along with the e-mail address needed to request removal from the blacklist. Unfortunately, it may be a temporary solution at best, if the IPs involved continue to be seen as spam sources by Comcast. I do know that many of the newsletters had this problem, and apparently they had to send their IP addresses, and whatever the h*ll else Comcast wanted. It took 2 months for the newsletters to start showing up again. NOW I will go and give them a piece of my mind. Thanks for the head's up, Mike Sharon - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: CSComcast blocking mail from Eskimo Hi all. This is for Dan Nave (who's listening in via his work address) and anybody else who uses a Comcast account to receive the list. Apparently, Comcast has taken it into it's collective head to block e- mail from eskimo.com for alleged spam activity. They did this without warning or making any attempt to contact the owner of Eskimo North at the standard abuse address or anything else. Besides which, eskimo is extremely diligent about policing spam activity to begin with. Since this message won't reach these people, and I won't be able to reach them from my personal address, either, if you have a friend with a comcast address, could you please foreward this to them? Comcast users need to start complaining to their service provider. Thank you, all. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFunny!! Until you try it!
From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:15 AM Didn`t anyone think it was funny?? she asks plaintively... Yes, Marshalee--it was very funny! And I sent it around to every female relative-all of those that I've been telling not to get mammograms, but who trust their Drs more. Thanks for sharing it Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnetic Rings
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 4:48 PM I can re-use Chuck's whole post, word for word. I can now say that it would probably take 5 minutes to sell me the Brooklyn Bridge, instead of just 2. Sharon I was wondering if anyone here has ever tried Alex Chiu's magnetic rings. It is mentioned in Kevin Trudeau's book Cures they don't want Yeah, I got 'em. Gave them a fair run. Noted nothing of consequence. 'cept I'm a little smarter now! Actually I got them for a lark. I do things like that at least once a year. I'm wearing a Lahkovsky coil now, just to see... Chuck If your feet smell and your nose runs, you're built upside down. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:01 PM It continued to be a problem for decades until I happened to notice something called a pantry moth trap. There are plenty of entries via Google search on those words, but I don't have an unopened pack to tell you about what I can get here. It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. - That's the one I posted the link to the other day. I get it from Gardens Alive here in the US. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:01 PM I had the same thing happen!!! I know they came from the rice because after one of the bags was about a month old, the same bugs were inside the bag and it wasn't even opened yetI checked and the bag was still air tight. The funny thing is that they don't seem to get in any other food. Good luck getting rid of themits been 2 months and I still see an occasional one and thats even after spraying for them over and over. Swat them when you see themI've just about got them under control finally. Robb I've been having a constant infestation with every trip home from the grocery store. I try to put all grain products into sealed containers, but sometimes I just forget. So, what I've found that is really helpful is these little gadgets (traps) from this source: http://www.gardensalive.com/category.asp?c=13 It's called the Cupboard Moth Trap. In fact, I think I'd better order some more now. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbody chemistry, mineral imbalances
From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:12 AM That is fascinating. I will try to find some phosphorus supplement, meantime, what about simply adding more high phos foods to the diet? There don't seem to be a huge number of foods with high phosphorus and low calcium, but oats are one. I'm going to check the nutrient database for others. And I'm going to take a look at my blood test results. Now that we've got good ol', wonderful ol' electricity (not to mention Air Conditioning!!) back, and half the tree limbs cleaned up, I'll just second what Terry wrote about lecithin being an excellent source of phosphorus. It's also wonderful for the gall bladder and cholesterol levels. It works differently in the body than phosphoric acid, which tends to erode calcium deposits and is a decent energy booster. Lecithin is a fat emulsifier, and actually helps clean out those clogged arteries the pharmas like to animate in their fear based commercials. Sharon starshar wrote: I earned my Certificate in Nutrition for the most part by learning/studying the works of Melvin Page, DDS. (I think the Weston Price site may have info on Page, also the Price Pottenger site). Page taught that the ideal blood levels of CA and P (phosphorus) are 10 and 4.5. It is the ratio, however, that is the most important factor, he said. CA should always be 2 and a half times the P. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStandard Process Products
From: Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:32 PM To get standard process products such as liquid phosphorus food go to this website http://www.totaldiscountvitamins.com/default.asp You'd better order quickly; SP has said they will take away the professional privilege from anyone attempting to sell their products on the 'net. Sharon, who's wondering but keeping mouth shut -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrooks B---EFT
http://www.emofree.com/default.htm Just a missing colon Sharon This url give me a page on http, the hyperlink protocal specifications. Marshall d...@visionz.co.za wrote: EFT is the most effective technique I have ever come across in the last 70 years. I am probably biased. A visit to http//www.emofree.com could perhaps help many on this list. Don -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:Terry's pH post
This information from Carey Reams is much appreciated, Terry. It is not easy to get ahold of Ream's writings, much less have an understandable condensation such as this. More would be most welcome! Sharon From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:22 PM In the on-going discussion of pH and calcium, various ideas have been expounded for resolving unbalanced pH. The standard resolution proposed by most natural health practitioners today revolves around so-called acid-ash and alkaline-ash foods. The allopathic medical industry pays scant attention to the subject at all until extreme conditions - such as acidosis - occur. Recently the idea of excess calcium has been presented, which prompts me to post information drawn from my own training. The ideas I share here come from the teachings of the late Dr. Carey Reams, biochemist and biophysicist. snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbody chemistry, mineral imbalances, was Re: CSbest vitamin c
I earned my Certificate in Nutrition for the most part by learning/studying the works of Melvin Page, DDS. (I think the Weston Price site may have info on Page, also the Price Pottenger site). Page taught that the ideal blood levels of CA and P (phosphorus) are 10 and 4.5. It is the ratio, however, that is the most important factor, he said. CA should always be 2 and a half times the P. For a long time, I'd check the routine blood work my doc ordered and I'd make adjustments to my supplements based on this ratio. About 10 yrs ago my blood work came back absent the P. I asked my doc what happened and was told that the insurance companies decided to go by the Medicare guidelines and Medicare had decided that P was irrelevant! (stifling rant) Now when I walk out of doc's office with lab slip in hand, I just check off Phosphorus before I go to the lab. I did ask my doc if this would be okjust in case the PTB would throw me in jail or something. G. It was P that got me over a horrible fibromyalgia attack back in the late 90s. I don't remember now if I had a current lab report when I took the P. What I have discovered is that when my P gets low or out of ratio to CA, my teeth will start staining. This could be just an overly alkaline condition systemically, but P is an acid mineral and it always works for me. At that time my neck was so tight that I had pain from the trapezius all the way up the side of my head, and I was immobilized---couldn't drive or even sleep anywhere but a reclining chair. Then I noticed my darkening teeth. P cured me of that bout in a few weeks. It's not easy to find phosphorus. Any practitioner that carries Standard Process products could provide their Phosfood. A websearch for orthophosphoric acid should produce at least one source. After reading what I just wrote, I realized that it sounds so pat. NOT. Metabolic balancing is a subject that continues to drive me crazy! FWIW, Sharon From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:42 PM Body chemistry is further confused by the fact that the body has a set point for blood levels of calcium, and if you don't get enough or what you take in is not properly utilized the body will remove calcium from the bones to maintain the blood levels. So I believe that blood levels of calcium and other minerals are not a very good indicator of what is really going on, or what the state of calcium in the body really is. Blood levels are therefore not totally reliable, but a poor tool is better than none, maybe. I myelf have been going by The Metabolic Typing Diet, which gives examples of different metabolic types needing different supplementation or diets that sometimes contradicts the blood results. There really is no one size fits all way to deal with mineral imbalances, or even vitamin deficiencies according to that book. sol M. G. Devour wrote: Sol wrote: Without a proper calcium/phosphorus ratio, mammals can't properly use calcium. The conventional wisdom seems to be that humans get plenty of phosphorus and don't need to worry about it, but I wonder if that is really true. Right now my phosphorus levels are low, both absolutely and relative to calcium. The problem I'm overcoming is apparently calcium overload. I'm supplementing with bioavailable calcium and avoiding all inorganic sources. As I'm slowly getting rid of the precipitated calcium, the phosphorus levels are supposed to rise. It's not easy to bring up phosphorus levels. It's supposed to take months. Body chemistry is not simple. sigh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLunar Influence on the Electrochemical Production of Colloidal Silver
Just a little something to add to the CS mix? (with apologies if this has been posted here before) http://www.borderlands.com/journal/lunar.htm Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBob Berger has passed away
From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:14 PM http://www.legacy.com/KansasCity/DeathNotices.asp?Page=LifeStoryPersonID=18209120 Rest In Peace my friend. Rich Adams Thank you, Rich, for posting this link. Even though we on this list never met Ole Bob in person, this still gives us closure. This world has lost another fine human being. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNiacin
From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:44 PM I wrote about this before but since there are no archives I guess I'll write it again- the Niacin flush is related to the prescence of histamines in the body. Histamines can be released by eating a food or substance you are allergic to. Therefore if you are not eating any foods you are allergic to, you may not experience any flush at all. I have been able to take Niacin without flushing if I was careful to avoid know food allergens. A book was written but I can't remember the name about using this action of Niacin to detect food allergies. The anti-histamine would therefore keep you from experiencing the flush by removing the histamines first. Another way of putting it is by looking at the niacin effect through the lens of Metabolic Balancing. A person who is parasympathetic dominant (nearly always hi histamine levels in this state) will always flush with niacin. If I remember correctly, the late Dr William Kelley wrote about using niacin as one determining factor in deciding if a person had an autonomic nervous system that was unbalanced/stressed to the parasympathetic side. People who are parasympathetic dominant are told never to use niacin, but only the amide form. Kelley taught that most (if not all) people with allergies were in a parasympathetic imbalance, and these people always need adrenal support as well. Just some thoughts from the back burner Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSporphyria article
The article's author says she has variegate porphyria http://www.townsendletter.com/April2006/digest0406.htm Hope there's some helful info here Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSozonated olive oil
From: feather...@netscape.net Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:53 AM About a week and half ago, one of the members wrote the bennefits of using ozonated olive oil and posted a web site. I ordered it, and it came yesterday from SLW SERVICES in langley bc. It is an unlabeled white 2oz plastic jar, screw on lid. It was seeping liquid into the safeway plastic bags used for packaging.No note and on emailing thru the given pay-pal email listed as sherri-...@aloeessence.com...the mail was returned as undeliverable. I have it in the refridgerator now and it is now in solid form. Does anyone know if ive been taken for $20, or is this a normal delivery for ozonated olive oil called natures gift(for skin, and after being mailed as a liquid would it still be effective).Ive never used this begore... Please advise. *** The shipment probably went through some hot weather areas, always a hazard this time of year. If you can still get a whiff of the ozone, then it's probably still effective. I remember Saul Pressman saying that he kept his jar on his bathroom windowsill, perhaps between the actual window and a storm window. He did not, however, mention the season of the year. I keep mine in the 'frig but then always forget about it! After a few years of languishing there, I think it's mostly evaportated. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnon flushing niacin
From: Teri Johnston t...@welshspringers.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:20 PM I know this has been covered before. So sorry for asking but without and archive Can anyone recommend a good brand or web site for non flushing niacin? Hi Teri, Both TwinLabs and Source Naturals would be good for niacinamide. I know TL makes it in capsule form, which I prefer. Almost every supplement company in existence will carry niacinamide! Many, many sites on the web would carry these---iherb, Vitacost, VitaminShoppes, spring to mind. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBetter stock up on silver wire
http://silverstrategies.com/story.aspx?local=1id=4159 The Next it Product 06/07/06 John Rubino While precious metals were getting whacked again today and arguments were raging about whether this is a healthy correction or the end of the run (see the mainstream's take in Financial Times), the Wall Street Journal gave silver investors a reason to stop worrying and start buying. In an article titled This War Against Germs Has a Silver Lining, the Journal notes that the consumer products industry has suddenly discovered that silver 1) kills germs without hurting people, and 2) can be added to practically anything: Now, silver is showing up as a bacteria-and odor-fighting material in a range of contemporary consumer products, from sports socks to washing machines. Specialty retailer Sharper Image recently introduced a line of plastic food containers infused with silver nanoparticles that are intended to keep food fresher. The boxes, priced at $69.95 for a set of 12, have drawn positive reviews at Amazon.com, which sells Sharper Image products -- including one owner enthusing about strawberries staying fresh for 14 days. In March, South Korea's Samsung Electronics launched a new washer in the U.S. that uses silver ions to sanitize laundry. Plank, a small Boston company that sells Yoga accessories, recently introduced Cor, a soap with silver as the main active ingredient. The company says its supplier is also developing silver-imbued shampoo and toothpaste. About three years ago, consumer products incorporating silver as an antimicrobial ingredient -- some made using nanotechnology to bond materials at a molecular level -- took off in Asia. Now some observers believe they are poised to become big in the U.S. 'Silver nanoparticles may very well become the next 'it' product, much like antibacterial soaps that took the consumer sector by storm a decade ago,' says Marlene Bourne, president of Scottsdale, Ariz.-based Bourne Research, which specializes in emerging technologies. What this means is that silver, already in short supply because of rising industrial demand and the voracious appetite of the new iShares Silver Trust ETF, is about to attract a new category of buyers. Another positive: Where the silver used in many industrial applications can be recycled, and the bullion now being bought and stored by the ETF can be dumped back on the market with a keystroke, silver used in consumer products is pretty much gone for good. No one will bother taking socks and shirts with silver threads to a recycling center (at anything close to today's silver prices, at least). Instead they'll just throw them away or donate them to the local Salvation Army. The silver built into the new generation of washing machines is gradually leached off and sent down the drain. Ditto for the silver particles in soap, shampoo and toothpaste. These new uses for silver, in other words, take it off the market permanently. The more popular they are, the less silver there is in the world's warehouses to satisfy investment demand. As InvestmentRarities' Ted Butler is fond of pointing out, there's already a looming shortage of silver sufficient to send the price into triple digits. And now the depletion rate of the world's remaining silver is headed into overdrive. I think this answers the question of whether today's sell-off is a buying opportunity. Copyright © 2006 http://www.dollarcollapse.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: C.S. for Horses?
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:07 AM What a tradgery to Barbaro - I wonder if they were using C.S. on him? Would be interesting to note. I live about 20 miles from Barbaro's home stables, so of course he's on the news here in great detail. As of 6:30 PM, eastern, he was in his 5th hour of surgery. Knowing just where he's located, I know that this surgery is being performed by the vets at the New Bolten Center, an offshoot of the U of Penn vet school/hospital. He's in the best of hands, and we all have our fingers crossed around here. The local news (Phila) showed a stream of people bringing flowers and teddy bears to the outside of the clinic; many of them were in tears. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and stye infection-quick input needed pls!
From: Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:57 AM Hi there. I have a friend with a stye/eye infection. She usually can self prescribe, but despite everything she's doing she is having some trouble! I left her a small bottle of cs a year ago (made with silvergen 6) to put in her cupboard (she hasn't' delved into cs yet). I suggested she put that in it. I have read testimonials on line about a soaked cloth in cs as well. If I were in your friend's shoes I would take up to 8 oz of the CS, gently heat it and dissolve a capsule of Dr Christopher's Eyebright formula in it. Let it steep for a few minutes, stir, then pour through a paper coffee filter. Put this solution in an old fashioned eye cup and bathe the eye like crazy. Every 15 minutes wouldn't hurt. At bedtime, I'd make a clay poultice, green clay or pascalite would be fine, pile it into one of those eye shaped bandages you can get a drugstore and sleep with it over the eye. If these don't start improving the eye within 24 hours, I'd hie me off to an eye doctor! Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: A Shared Reflection
From: Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:01 PM *** Quick note: I've read it and I second the motion! Sharon ** Dear Membership, As most of you know, from time to time I have an inexplicable outbreak of inchoate ramblingstonight is one of those. Throughout the immediately-past 55 years of searching/seeking through scientific/philosophical academia I have, on rare occasions, come across a book of unusually powerful dimensions. I wish to share with you, now, such a find. This brief little book is as startling and powerful in impact (at least to me), as any I have ever read--and I have read thousands (as an avid reader for the past 50+ yearsaveraging over 3 books a week one can see that is no idle statement). It presents a mind-altering proposition relating to the field of Biology. Written in a prose totally understandable to the entire layman audience, its central theme is (to me at least) little short of revolutionary. Dr. Lipton's presentation addresses the reigning precepts of the current mainstream Biological Reductionism.with a frontal attack it cannot withstand. I do not want to spoil any possible ah-hah moments by summarizing its contents for anyone interested (who has not previously read it)in reading it. I will, however, state that his treatment of the dynamics of the CELL are nothing short of riveting.both in import and clarity of explanation. Were I still teaching in academia, and Biology was my tenured subjectI would require all of my students to read this book. No matter what their conclusions might be.the challenges toward independent reflection are more than sufficient to justify its reading. Written in large type and only 205 pages in length.it will read faster than than the Sports Page in the newspaper. You will be taken on a fascinating journey covering microbiology, a truly understandable explanation of how proteins actually control the movement of life, (plus illustrations of how it is done), how cells actually educate themselves, how life programs itself: the true nature and role of DNA (Boy, will you be surprised); what is most influential in controlling the life of the cell (its not what you may have thought) and the true brain of the cell. plus much more of the concepts which have given birth to the entire discipline of Epigenetics and the astounding effects of environment upon the actions of cells. Dr. Lipton's comments on the effects of Quantum Physics impacting Biology are, alone, worth reading this volume (Actually, he is the ONLY biologist I have known of-who possesses an actual working knowledge of quantum physics). The book is entitled The Biology of Belief, by Bruce Lipton, Phd. For what it may be worth, this is the first and only book I have ever publicly touted large numbers to read. You may not be as enthusiastic about it as am I..but I bet you will be (at least the intellectual envelope pushers like Marshall Dudley, Ole Bob, Jim Holmes, Mikeand many others). Mine is not a better way, mine is just a different way. My apologies for taking up so much bandwidth with this epistle, but I promise to restrain myself for another year.if I last that long. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCalcium Oxilate Kidney Stones Help
From: Teri Johnston t...@welshspringers.com Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:23 PM When visiting a good friend this week he inquired if I knew of any way to prevent Calcium Oxilate Kidney stones. His doctor recommended diet changes and a supplement but he is forming new stones in spite of this. If anyone has any suggestions I could pass along I know he would appreciate it. My son-in-law, a pilot with a major airline, was grounded in February with a calcium oxalate stone. It was 3 weeks after he passed the stone before he could fly again. He had to prove, by bloodwork, and 24-hour urine collections that his blood and kidneys no longer showed the parameters for forming further stones. In addition to slavishly following the recommended diet, he takes potassium citrate and in the only instance of ever heeding his mother-in-law's nutritional recommendations, G, he's also taking magnesium and B-6. So far, he's just fine. He is required by the airline to constantly be tested for this as the last thing the airline wants is the Captain doubled over and howling in pain at 30,000 feet. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to make up a CS/MSM/Xylitol solution?
From: tlwidmer tlwid...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:09 AM I am trying to find the right receipe for a sinus spray to help my family. How much MSM do I use--taking apart the capsules and mixing the power in--per CS? Is there another, better form to use? Also, do I just buy Xylitol in powdered form as well and mix it in? How much would I use? Hi Theresa, I pour almost boiling water into a 4 oz glass, just to heat the glass; pour out the water and put in about 2 oz of CS. When the CS has warmed up from the heat of the glass, stir in 1/4 tsp of MSM. I have the powdered form on hand but I'm sure opening up a capsule would work the same way. Done! Put into sprayer or dropper bottle/s. I made a batch with xylitol, probably used another 1/4 tsp but don't remember exactly. I would've continued doing this except for a warning that DaddyBob posted here, or to another list. He said that the xylitol actually caused a fungal condition, if I remember correctly.. DaddyBob, where are you? Anyway, just the CS/MSM does wonders. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS + DMSO on humans...
From: Pavel Hochmut ho...@cbox.cz Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:50 PM Are there some experiences with EIS together with DMSO on humans? We have some requirements the EIS to penetrate entirely and deeper to the skin and maybe deeper, uner the skin. I have noticed, that DMSO causes some skin problems as excema or allergic reactions. Can you help? DMSO will cause a localized histamine release. This is harmless, but annoying and itchy! As you continue to use the DMSO on the same location, the histamine reaction will eventually cease. Since the DMSO is also drying, it is helpful to follow up with a rich (and pure!) oil, such as emu, virgin coconut oil, or olive oil. Diluting the DMSO directly with EIS is great, but use a low dilution, perhaps starting with 20%. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAllergy testing
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:22 AM am I hopelessly old fashioned in believing that if you change the field, you would not be subject to allergies? Some of my earliest nutrition/biochemistry studies (self study) came from the writings of Dr William Kelley, sometime in the late 70's I guess. My son was having a lot of allergy symptoms in childhood and adolescence, the respiratory type. I'm wracking my brain to remember the exact supplements I had him on, daily, for a year. At the end of the year he had his first allergy free season. I treated him as though he was parasympathetic dominant, which involved acidifying his chemistry. I must've used some Standard Process products, which would have included Cal Amo (ammonium chloride based), calcium, pantothenic acid, probably niacinamide, and perhaps their unique chlorophyll *oil* perles. They work to neutralize guanidine in the GI tract (among other benefits). Vit C, of course. That's my best recall at the moment. Fortunately he was not a big sugar eater at all, though pretzels were his downfall. This successful program with unbelievable results is one of the reasons I have problems with the alkalize or die concept that is everywhere these days! Terry, I'm sure you're familiar with the free downloadable EFT manual at: http://www.emofree.com/default.htm I think it is very easy to learn the technique and use for oneself. I believe there is an emotional concept to every illness we are disposed to. Uncovering what that is, however, is definitly NOT the easiest thing to do. How well I know! Sharon Mike, I was tested (sniff tests, scratch tests) for pollens/chemicals, etc., when I was in HS. I reacted to 75% of them. I received shots each week for three years, with no improvement. Then a friendly family doctor (not the one giving the shots) informed me that the shots had an industry effectiveness average of 15%. 15%! The shots cost my parents over $3,000. The Pulse test is more accurate (sniff and scratch tests are worthless for testing foods), and EFT is more effective in treating them. I am also currently seeing a practitioner to receive NAET. Very expensive and long-range. I pay $60 each week for the treatment (plus $20 gas). I can see this will be easily a year-long thing. He seems to know what he is doing - combines NAET with accupuncture and muscle testing, diet changes, etc. As usual, the medical thing is to try to get rid of the symptoms, with no concern or thought of the causes. I have to tell you, emotional stuff is, at the very least, a contributor to allergies, if not the primary initiator, IMO. As far as I have been able to discover, there are no Certified EFT practitioners anywhere near me, or I would try to meet with them. Sigh, I suppose I could try the phone consultation thing (several list members do it). You should almost expect that whatever is being injected into your son also contains toxins. It's the medical way. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIBS
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:36 PM I would love to find a way to help my son. He's had irritable bowel and lactose intolerance problems since he was three. Thank goodness I breast fed him till he was 2 years 4 months. He tried adding fiber supplements but that didn't help at all. He eats the typical American diet but does do more fresh food and sushi than most. He was tested by a gastroenterologist when in junior high school to be sure it was irritable bowel syndrome. He's using so much Immodium, but that is the only thing that helps him. He said he gets pain so severe that he can't walk upright and breaks out in a sweat. One website says one should eat vegan, the other says one should mostly eat raw meats. Surely there's something in between that makes more sense. Pat, There's a very high possibility that he could have celiac disease with these symptoms. My sister suffered for years with IBS. I finally talked her into going gluten free which she did for a month, then complained to me that it wasn't helping. That same day she ran into an old friend at the health food store and was advised to continue wheat/gluten free diet and add probiotics and one garlic capsule a day. Within 3 days her symptoms completely cleared up. She continued this for 3 more months, then took a vacation to Ireland. She told me in advance there was no way she was staying gluten free with the breads in Ireland. After she was there for 3 days she stopped into an internet cafe, and sent me just this message, It's the wheat--oh boy, is it ever the wheat! She stays on a gluten free regimen *most* of the time, but if she falls off the gluten wagon she pays almost an instant price with the return of IBS. Here are a few sites you could peruse: http://www.celiac.com/index.html http://www.aafp.org/afp/980301ap/pruessn.html http://donwiss.com/ My best healing wishes to your son, Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDegenerative disk disease
From: ransley rans...@atmc.net Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:59 AM Hi DB, I'm so glad you chimed in. I was (and will) going to order from ocean alchemy but I would've gone straight to the fire products as I know you had mentioned them elsewhere. So, great, I learned something of value already. Ok, I'm grateful I only have bulges G. I do not want to get to the point you did, for sure! It's amazing what you've overcome in several areas. I painted my lumbar spine with the Lugols and then added a very fine layer of DMSO gel on top. Boy, did I get the histamine reaction and fast! I then slathered some coconut oil on top to ease that. So far, so good. I've really cranked up the Silver Puppy and am taking more CS than usual. And I filter my well water through a Brita and drink between 2-3 qts a day. As always, your experience and advice are of great value and I thank you! Sharon Sharon- Be thankful that you have bulges, not ruptures. You still have time. Believe or not, when they actually rupture, you may have less pain because the wall of the disk is no longer pressing against the spinal cord. But that's temporary, because the jelly inside of the disk moves into the spinal column, where it is attacked by the microbes, calcifies, solidifies and becomes stenosis. Then you really got troubles. I forgot to mention (again) that I was diagnosed with severe lumbar stenosis and near critical cervical stenosis. Right now I'd say your cheapest and quickest options are to to use those bulbs that V's been talking about, and regularly paint your spine with Lugol's. You'll know you have enough iodine when you can taste it and your nose runs. I'd also take magnesium, citrate or orotate. The lower mannas of ormus preparations- particularly the salt precipitates- may be all you need to renourish your disks. My condition was so bad that I had to jump straight into the higher mannas. I DO NOT recommend that. A year ago, my source of raw milk, a dairy farmer in upstate South Carolina, was in pain (nowhere near what I had lived with but that's not to make light of it). He listened to me and about 16 ounces of the lower manna was all he needed to get out of pain and back to work. The lower manna that I refer to can be homemade: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus2.htm#WET%20METHOD I've never done it, got everything to do it with, just would rather pay for it. I buy mine here: http://www.oceanalchemy.com/ Scroll down to- Products of Water Alchemy: Great Salt Lake Manna Atlantic C-11 Manna Dead Sea Gold My dairy farmer friend used the Atlantic C-11. Once again, DO NOT start out with the fire alchemy products. Of course, keep taking CS. Low ppm CS is what killed off my chronic pain in the first place, and began chasing disease out to my skin. Drink LOTS of good spring or well water. Until I was able to bring about more healing in my neck, my left arm would regularly go limp at my side from the cervical problems. I would drink a gallon of water for two days, and the arm would completely recover. I am very fortunate to own two wells that have fantastic water that is back pressure from the ocean, filtered through miles of prehistoric oyster/clam beds. But there is still plenty of good water on earth. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSharon's health issues
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:17 AM *** Hi Terry, We are on the exact same wavelength here! I do not allow Drs to do their thing at all. Because I'm fortunate enough to have health insurance, I use allopathy for diagnostics only. In a few rare cases I've used rx meds for a temporary situation until the nutritional methods kick in. I'm actually a certified nutritional consultant but have never practiced, so I don't have the in depth experience that would come from constantly dealing with patients/clients. I have a chiropractor who has become more of a naturopath these days, but this is the guy who really messed me up! He insisted last year that I have an xray of the lumbar spine and sent me to a local hosp. known fot it's minimal radiation exposure. He read the xray and informed me that I was born with a missing L-5. Not according to the MRI! Last visit about 4 wks ago, he hit me all over the lumbar area with the activator (I think I've got that right), and upon leaving his office I then discovered I couldn't lift my left leg into the car. I've had this sciatic pain ever since. Boy, he's going to get read the riot act next time I see him! Yup, I'm actually trusting that once he knows the MRI results that he's going to have other modalities to get me over the sciatica. I'm so twisted and tilted that no nutritional therapy is going cure that; I've got to get back to some reasonable alignment. CUT ME? Did I actually imply that? That'll happen when pigs fly! I'm with you on all your suggestions, though I'm still cogitating on exactly what I'm going to put together. Allergy testing? A la Dr Coca? Somewhere I've got that old book, even if I don't properly recall his name. I remember that pulse testing. I use a lot of Standard Process products, and grabbed their Ligaplex II for the discs, and Albaplex for the kidneys. I'm upping my Vit C, with synergists, and will add MSM, probably will also experiment with Serrapeptase. I'm ordering some UNhydrolyzed collagen as well. Meanwhile, I have some CMO in house and have started using it. It's long past expiry, but it'll do for now. I've got the EFT manual, books, and a set of CDs. I've worked with a practitioner by phone, a year ago, so I've got a good handle on it--I just have to USE it! And believe it or not, I happen to have a bottle of NCD but I'm not too sure if it's 'for' me or not. First dose left me feeling awful, and my own muscle testing always is negative on it. I don't really trust self testing, because of subjectivity and possible polarity reversal. Nevertheless, the negative response is very consistent. Of course, I could be subconsciously trying to avoid the herx! You are absolutely right on mixing two modalities, and I'm in total agreement. If it weren't for the advantage of the diagnostic MRI, I'd still be thinking I just had a missing disc and possibly causing more damage. So for the diagnostics, I'll practice a small amount of gratitude for the orthodox side. Just a very *small* amount! Now to see what's going on with the kidney---Tues for that. And there's no way they will be messing with my kidney! Terry, I greatly appreciate the time and effort you put into this post to me---you are a gem! Thank you for all the good ideas Blessings, Sharon Sharon, The type of physical issues you are struggling with actually have a very high response rate utilizing nutrients/therapies outside of the standard medical approach. Many times plain old chiropractic works wonders. I, like many others here, urge you to not allow the doctors to do their thing on you. This brings up an important point. You need to make a health philosophy decision here. You need to go with either the allopathic medical approach in coping with/treating your health problem, or go with the alternative approaches. On some things, you can co-mingle treatments (take drugs but also take nutritional supplements; take drugs but also be adjusted by a chiropractor). More and more, as the medical approach to health issues becomes more radical and bizzare and barbaric, the two approaches to health negate each other and you must choose one or the other. An example: There are many health issues that a doctor will treat by giving drugs that depress the immune system because their treatment is so bizzare and unnatural. In others, such as hypERthyroidism, the medical answer is to deliberately destroy the thyroid gland (with radiation) and give you very poor, synthetic thyroid substitute the rest of your life (with all the inevitable complications that ensue). In your present situation, if you allow the doctors to cut you in any way, you will probably never fully recover from the effects no matter what you do (apart from an act of God). Please understand, they DO NOT know what is wrong with you, but they will they will freely assign you the role of guinea pig. Since the medical mentality has
