[AsburyPark] Re: A King was born on this very night.
Jim, Glenn, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! To All: A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, to You All, as well! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merry Christmas! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Confessions include Dirty Tricks in Monmouth Politics
My first take on a name like Rasta-Man, would be: Rasta=Black Man=Man Stating the obvious. It is assumed, that MOST Blacks, are Democrats and in the pockets of (white politicians}, assuming, that is. Also posing as a Democrat, assuming, the blogger, knows how Democrats, think! This is right out of Richard Nixon's play book, of dirty tricks! Remember his famous quote: I am not a crook! Famous last words. Like calling Barack Obama, Osama Obama, get it? Just an observation. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/22/2007 5:38:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wasn't aware of the racism part. Can you fill me in? I was being kind with subtle racism. Why would a White Rumson Republican for Romney, pictures here: _http://moremonmouthmusings.blogspot.com/2007/10/meet-rasta-man-at-least-one-of-them.html_ (http://moremonmouthmusings.blogspot.com/2007/10/meet-rasta-man-at-least-one-of-them.html) pretend to be a Democrat with the moniker Rastaman? The name conjures images: Rasta _http://tinyurl.com/2e2smp_ (http://tinyurl.com/2e2smp) Rastaman _http://tinyurl.com/yqhfoa_ (http://tinyurl.com/yqhfoa) Rasta Man _http://tinyurl.com/2h9l48_ (http://tinyurl.com/2h9l48) Rastafarian _http://tinyurl.com/2xnz4e_ (http://tinyurl.com/2xnz4e) Just as the phone voices used against the Holt campaign. But you handled the case, so what's your take? **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's BOE meeting
Dear Frank, As only you could, you gave a complete, historical background on the status of the stadium, the ball fields, etc. The monitor, who didn't take the time to read or delve into the history, not only of this board, bur previous boards, before this one, who did NOT make the situation, that the current board is trying to wade through, but that the people of Asbury Park spoke, at the last election, hoping upon hope, that this board, would finally straighten out the muck, it unwittingly stepped into! Let me first send you and the board kudos, bravo, atta boy/girl, or whatever one does, when you can't see me, standing and cheering! For 4 long hours, for which none of you are paid, blood pressures soaring, hearts palpatating, with no CPR administered and for being able to walk out in one piece, my devotional prayers, were answered. It sounds as though our citizens and the current board, are on the same page, for once and for that, all of you should be commended. Talk about dotting your I's and crossing your T's, my next question is, how long does the contract on those lawyers, last? I can only think of the line, from the song, School Days; taught to the tune of a hickory stick! I would like to see the lawyers dance, to THAT! I will continue to don my Asbury Blue and Black cheering suit, for this Bishop's Team! Hoping you all have a Blessed Christmas Holiday! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Group Members: This is a relatively short report on last night's BOE meeting from a Board member who does not speak for the Board. The four and a half hour meeting began with a public hearing on the re-financing (legal term refunding) of all of the outstanding bonds we have been paying for. That includes the 1997 $2,000,000. bond issue and the year 2000 $1.3 million dollar bond issues as well as outstanding bonds from 1989 and 1994 (which involved the construction of the Bradley School). The current rate is 5.6% and the new rate will be between 3.5 and 4 %. Refinancing a total of $8.5 million in bonds at the new rate saves approximately $60,000. per year for ten years. Barbara Lesinski and I spoke of the commitment made to the people of Asbury Park when the 1997 and 2000 bonds promised not only a refurbished stadium but three separate ball fields (including a separate Little League field). Savings from the re-fi should first go to complete the promises made a decade ago. That was also the message from the members of the public who spoke at the hearing, including Danny McKee, the President of the Little League. The state monitor was even chastised by my neighbor and longtime teacher, Esther Kelso, who said Stop harassing the Little League! The monitor took that opportunity to say that he had been misunderstood, and that he never said the Little League could not remain at its present location. (Two words come to mind: Bull-ony). After the public hearing, the BOE unanimously voted to re-finance the bonds. The High School principal, Mr. Tyler Blackmore, then gave us an exciting presentation his plans to re-organize the high school and its faculty and student body into three separate academies for the 10th, 11th, and 12th graders. The first will be the Entrepreneurship, Business, and Technology Academy, the second Humanities and Fine Arts , and the third Medical, Science, and Engineering. Instead of traditional departments, there will be cross-curriculum teams of teachers for these themed academies. A closed session was held so that the BOE could discuss the status of talks with the Little League being represented by attorney Tom DeSeno, with whom a one-hour conference call was held earlier in the day. Without breaching the confidence of the closed session, it is safe to say that the controversy is now moving in the right direction. The BOE meeting resumed with a public comment session on agenda items. The first order of business after that was to appoint a new interim School Business Administrator/Board Secretary. Mr. James Cummings was appointed to that position at $600 per day. The vote was 8-1. He will not be required to attend BOE meetings, hence the reason for my no vote. Another vote of note was the vote to inform the suspended Superintendent, Dr. Lewis, that the BOE did not intend to renew his contract. Under the law, a superintendent must be told in the penultimate year of his contract (in this case the 3rd year of a 4 year contract) that the Board does not intend to renew, or else the contract is automatically renewed for the same perios of time (!) The vote to inform Dr. Lewis that this Board did not intend to renew his contract was 7 yes, one abstention (Mrs. Sanders) and one no (Garrett Giberson). We also voted to acknowledge the results of a state investigation into
[AsburyPark] Re: Greetings
Rev. Kev., I wish the same for you! Good Luck with your projects, in 2008! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coulter in Velvet!? Now thats a traditional Christmas. Now for the practical: My prayer to God, and wish for all men and women of New Jersey this Christmas Season is simple. That our taxes drop 75% That Our Government shrink 80% That Abstinance increase 75% That Health improve 100% With these 4 things alone it would be a better world. Good Cheer To you all Kevin Brown Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Greetings
Jack, - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is, nobody cares. And for Tommy and his all loving God that makes life here on earth so great. Please ask God why it's ok for Walmart to sell Christmas ornaments that are made in China by kids making 40 cents an hour while working 70 hour weeks. Explain that to us Tommy. Perhaps some of those ornaments are hanging on your tree (across the room from your I couldn't resist laughing at this: Ann Coulter velvet painting) Although I know you're serious! You should ignore it, I did! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] NJN News
Mayor Kevin Sanders, just seen on Channel 13, NJN News giving a summary of the now failed Esperanza Project. You can catch this segment on NJN News at 6:00PM and 11:00PM, NJN only. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Greetings
John, One caveat: Remember 2000 and 2004. I just heard the Smirking Chimp, say that the Repugs, are going to win in 2008. They've succeeded twice in stealing 2 federal elections, so all I can say, is PRAY! Remember the lines in Ohio and the thousands of voters disenfranchised, that day. They have learned to circumvent Civil Rights Laws. See New Orleans after Katrina! A classic case, in how to get rid of your poor and minorities. Give them a one-way ticket out, guaranteed to wear them down, then grab the land and turn New Orleans into a Disney site! Bring cheap labor into a town, known for its' black artisans, that have built the architecture, since slavery times, guaranteeing even their middle class from returning, while a section of town languishes. I saw a home with two years growth, from nature recapturing, what was once, a home. I've never traveled to Haiti, but from the looks of the 9th ward, I came pretty close! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To All My Republic Friends: Please accept with my best wishes for an religiously exclusive, socially irresponsible, high-stress, war-addictive, gender-specific celebration of the the springtime birth of Jesus in the winter, practiced within the most unenjoyable traditions of religious persecution, mass consumption and soul-crushing capitalism with no respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally irresponible, personally destructive and medically unafforable recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2008, but without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. And wishes to continue to live in the delusion that America is greater than any other country in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made with extreme exclusion and prejudice to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee. To All My Democratic Friends: Only 396 days until the end of the Chimp's Unitary Presidency. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: rear-ended
Wow, Mario, Sorry to hear that! North Carolina? Don't make me go there! Hope they find the dumb-a$$! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I was turning into my driveway this afternoon, about 2 PM, I was rear-ended by someone who first tried to pass on my right, then couldn't stop because of the rain slick. Knocked me into the curb and sped away down Pine St. Hit and run. Just in case anyone spots in your neighborhood a parked dark van with plates ( white background, red trim and lettering, possibly North Carolina) WWK- 3836 -- consider reporting it to the police. They have the report and will be looking for the vehicle also. Thanx **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Maureens Column
Okay! I meant in the group HERE! I don't read the app.com comments, because they started publishing them in the paper! Tommu gets a bye for being sick. Hope you feel better, Tommy. To all who commented in the AP Press, KUDOS! I've been on my December social circle, so I haven't had time to post here. Sorry, if I posted improperly, but meant that I hadn't read any comments, here! Sorry, for the mix-up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/17/2007 7:40:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to congratulate Maureen, on her new column, with the Asbury Park Press, a legitimate, mainstream Newspaper. No one in this forum, has bothered to comment on it Wrong. Frank D was first and I was second. They must have taken the comments off from last week. (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=pluckpersonaU=3368a999d7d449dba57d755931470075) Mairemartello wrote: Good article, Maureen. Coverage of radio is very important in these days of talk radio. Glad APP has brought you aboard. The only NYC paper that covers radio is the New York Daily News! 12/10/2007 4:21:35 PM (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=pluckpersonaU=2c204719f1024451a59e566a3dddf556) dfsavgny wrote: Local radio is an important asset that is quickly vanishing. it provides an alternative to the mass-produced comglomerates that are taking over not only the public airwaves, but most media. If there are not local and independent alternatives, we will some day only see and hear what they want us to. Remember, the air waves are PUBLIC property. Let's make sure that there are still independent voices for the public. One of those valuable independent local voices is Maureen Nevin. We need to get ASBURY RADIO back on the air! It is sorely missed. 12/10/2007 12:07:07 PM (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=pluckpersonaU=c8bb22073a8d4e9094de2e770fd189da) asburyfrank wrote: What a terrific article about Doris! She and her husband John are such wonderful, positive and talented people, and El Lobo is greatly missed. Nice work, Maureen, and I'd say that even if I weren't your friend! We need to get your voice about all things Asbury Park back on the air, too! 12/10/2007 9:26:30 AM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark
I can't see or hear it. Which player are you using? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Wow This is awesome! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote: Very very funny. Actually, that brings me right back to little league. We once went on a trip to Yankee stadium. It was bat day. Somewhere, up in my parent's attic, there migh be a Joe Pepitone bat. It was those little billy clubs. I think it was a red sox doubleheader. Completely out of control crowd. Little League. An amazing thing for a kid. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: So with all due respect, what part of that didn't you under...
Mario, I actually DID see the replay of this and Kevin Martin, looks, as if he has a yeah, I hear you, but I don't care, attitude! If I thought Michael Powell, was bad, this guy takes the cake! Where does Bush find, these people? Saw the guy who was Jesse Jackson's campaign manager?, who laid out what's really happening in the media! I also found Barack Obama'a response to Hillary, during the debate, the best cool under fire comment, ever! He's winning me over, although, I'm not quite there yet! Looks like Huckabee, is the Republicans Man of the hour. No one is questioning HIS experience, like Hillary keeps questioning Obama's. Makes her look bad, considering, SHE had to keep Bill in line, during all of his alleged scandals. Looking at the last 6 years of Bush Co., makes Bill look almost saintly, pardon the pun! Hell, Nixon looks good, next to him, (Bush)! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/16/2007 7:50:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Martin, Chair of the FCC is proposing to re-regulate radio and TV. According to all news outlets I seen, Martin is calling for a vote on Tuesday which would further deregulate -- allowing for newspaper/broadcast cross-ownership which would allow a few companies to swallow up more local media in hundreds of cities and towns. (Yahoo) **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Maureens Column
I just want to congratulate Maureen, on her new column, with the Asbury Park Press, a legitimate, mainstream Newspaper. No one in this forum, has bothered to comment on it, so I shall. She is diligent and complete, it's no wonder, she's publishing. I'm shocked Tommy hasn't made a comment. http://search.app.com/sp?aff=200keywords=Maureen+Nevinx=23y=11 Hope this link works. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...
Isn't it ironic? Tom was terriffic, back when the Mets were Amazin', the Yankees had Mister October, Reggie Jackson and other superstars, who were wiry, rather than buffed up! I met Daryl Strawberry, while I was at a luncheon, last year and he's still wiry, can probably still hit a bat, has a winning personality, gave me his autograph, because I gave him words of encouragement and told him to get his act together, because I believed in him, as do so many others! I gave him my Mama speech, the kind, older Black elders, are prone to do, when they love someone. I loved Thurmon Munson, tragically killed and I loved it, when Baseball was just a game, my boys played over in Neptune, in the Pony Leagues at the SAME ballfields, on Jumping Brook Road and Old Corlies ave. They looked like 2 little bobble-heads, in their uniforms! I began getting my tan in March, when the season opened. My youngest son, played Babe Ruth, until he entered Glassboro, now Rowan. I now follow Legion Baseball and was at the All-Star Game at Monmouth University, back in the summer. I was thrilled to be amongst kids from Monmouth County playing against Ocean County. Not caring who won, but the sportsmanship being taught that day. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: It also seems to me, that they beat the hell out of Barry Bonds, while overlooking Andy Pettit, the Rocket, who injected his, into his buttocks and others. You are correct Sharon. Clemens in particular should be treated exactly as Bonds. Bonds is the most dominant post world war II hitter, ditto for Clemens as pitcher. Both would have made it to the HOF without juice. Both has that tell tall sign of juicing by having their numbers get better in their late 30's and early 40's. Both are blowing the hell out of everyone else's records, unfairly. The Olympic governing body does it right - they stripped Marion Jones. If baseball were as pure then Bonds, Clemens, Pettitte. Tejada, etc. would all have their rings and records stripped. Hitters and Pitchers? Hammerin' Hank and Tom Terrific are still my heroes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: restaurant row, entertainment district, business district vs condos
I would love to see a Hard Rock, Asbury Park and a House of Blues, Asbury Park! Why? Every damned City I visit, that's where I either eat or go for the music! Atlantic City has BOTH! I've visited Hard Rock, Montreal, AC and N.O., ate last month in the HOB, AC! Music was so (volume), LOUD, but the food was excellent! You want to draw the 21 and older crowd? Build them and they will come! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP also has a worldwide connection with the music biz. More people know about AP because of Bruce then anything else. Besides the boardwalk, it's our number one commodity, and at the same time the least realized commodity. Turning the entire redevelopment zone into an adult oriented entertainment zone, with places like the House of Blues etc, cool retro themed hotels, great restaurants and the like would put this city back on the map. I agree! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
You and I both know, that Jesus is the reason for the Season! It's what you, I and so many others celebrate. Let's remember that Jesus, the Nazarean, was Jewish, first and his followers, became Christians, be they Roman, Armenian, Coptic or Othodox Catholics, then you have your Luthurans, Presbyterians, Baptists, Episcapalians and any other Christian Faiths, that don't see themselves, as Papists. I had a menorah, until last year, when I gave it and the candles, to a Jewish boy, that works with my daughter, who was delighted, to receive it. It was from Israel. I just wish I had seen his face! It sits at his work station and he is teaching my daughter about the faith. Back in the 90's I came upon a street fair on 12th St., near Washington Square, bought a ton of beautiful things, the 2nd weekend in May, which I gave as Xmas gifts, that year, '96. This kindly old Jewish man, took me into the 12th Street Temple. We corresponded by mail and telephone, until he passed away. See, I see the beauty in everything. I will never forget his kindness. He found, that my name is Sharon Grace; both Hebrew and took to me. I still have his letters. Mario calls me Amazing Grace and I like that, just fine. Just celebrate whatever it is you like. I celebrate all 3, Christmas, Hannukah and Kwanzaa! Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa, to All of You! God Bless! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Dan is right. AP should celebrate Hannukah. And I'd have no problem with that. However, to celebrate Christmas but ditch the name, that's a very different thing than not celebrating it at all. That's a deliberate insult. It's no oversight either. They made a conscious decision to change the name. Imagine the outrage if AP changed the name of another holiday. If we didn't acknowledge Kwanzaa by its name, Hannukah by its name, Gay Pride day by its name, I'd complain with those groups. I don't know why the favor isn't returned. I know I can't do anything about it either. Like I said, probably more than a few private snickers at my expense because it does upset me. Next AP retailer to go broke without my $3,000.00 won't be snickering that day, and neither will I. But I might bring it up to Gilmour. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Name that site contest
LOL! Thanks, for the El Espanol review! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw lightgrw@ wrote: causa perdida And inscribed over the entryway (from my family's coat of arms) Futue te ipsum et caballum tuum Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...
Mitchell is in conflict, because he is on the board of Disney and has part ownership of a team, so he should recuse himself. Received an email from AlterNet, yesterday, commenting on this, but I deleted it. It also seems to me, that they beat the hell out of Barry Bonds, while overlooking Andy Pettit, the Rocket, who injected his, into his buttocks and others. Bonds stated, he didn't knowingly take anything, so why is Bonds lying and the others de-nying? They ALL look pretty big, to me. The steroids have been used since the late 70's, were called vitamins and everyone looked the other way! Double standard, as usual! Asterisk for Bonds, next to his name and a slap on the wrist, for all others. It's always about race! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7560358?MSNHPHCPGT1=10734 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...
Here's the story http://www.alternet.org/story/70608/ --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7560358?MSNHPHCPGT1=10734 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes
I can only think of one statement, coming to mind; Hindsight is 20/20! What else can I say? Werner, you laid it out for them, but did anyone listen? No, but they FIND time, to hassle you and anyone else, that they feel threatened by! To the City: We told you so! We need REAL law and order and what do we get? 2 mounted police parading around, like we're Mayberry, Broken lights, rubbish and graffitti in the park! No offense to the police, who probably mean well. We need a Little League field in working order. What do we get? Major hassles and bills, from an uncaring law firm! Where do we find these people? No offense to any Member of the Board, who also need a permanent office, having had theirs taken, by emminent domain! So what do we, as ordinary citizens do? Our Council has had bad advice! No offense to any member of the Council, for trying! We live in an era, where no one takes the blame, for their actions. I've decided, no one's to blame; let's just erase the board and begin over! Okay, let the games and the flames, begin! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot about this one, another 'keeper'.. A Little Bit of Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1242 Five years ago. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Great observation Oak, a read through the 'Archives' is eye opening. Here's a gem I found: Destruction of an american Icon http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1200 Sums up how we got to where we are today. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
I for one don't think so! I believe that there's a whole lot, we don't know! Just like the White House; it's a secret! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the think that bothers people the most is that - at least from an outsider's perspective - it doesn't appear that the Council holds Asbury Partners accountable for either their actions or the contract originally signed. There has been too many loopholes, including those set up in the original deal which gave them leeway in case of lawsuits, which have really kept things moving at a snail's pace. People seem to believe that doing things in Asbury Park needs to take 5 years for every one year that is needed elsewhere for similar projects. Jack Pitzer wrote: I'm not sure what the answer is. What do you think needs to change about the council for them to be more effective? Am I wrong, and the council is doing a fine job? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
LOL! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: How about Dan S. for Deputy Mayor/ Like Bush/Cheney or Sanders/Bruno. Anyone want to guess what I'm implying? That I would be a bigger prick than Guiliani. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Quality of Life Many More Options
Mario, Now THAT'S what I call good news! Every bit of technology used in this war and the wars of the 90's, like Gulf War One, were developed here at Ft. Monmouth, a 90 year old installation! It's like saying, Let's close West Point! Brooklyn Navy Yard, Philadelphia Naval Yard, The Coast Guard Station at Governor's Island, ALL closed, leaving only Maguire and Ft. Dix open in NJ, beside the technology end, Ft. Monmouth, left standing! A disaster, waiting to happen! See 9-11! What were Frank Lautenberg and Frank Pallone, thinking? They lay down and rolled over, accepting the figures fed to them from the BRAC, on how much it would cost to expand Aberdeen Proving Ground! Now we learned it will cost much much more! You uproot workers, who are mostly natives, or already retired military, working 20 more years to get a decent pension, besides the paltry one, they get from Uncle Sam! You ruin the economy in an already depressed area, leaving New Jersey bereft of one of their best economy and real estate boosters! If any of you have realtives in Maryland, let me tell you, it's the high rent district. My daughter lives in Montgomery County and it is one of the most expensive areas, in the country! Most of your foreign diplomats, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and Pentagon professional live in this county. Not all, but a majority. It's like the United Nations, but expensive! I shop at Food Giant and another food market, when I'm there, but I wind up going to Andrews AFB, to save money on meat, there! I didn't see a lot of hispanics, there, except the ones in military uniforms, who are native Americans. Thanks for the article! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maryland's newspaper reports on NJ's efforts to halt base closing: -- John P. Bellantoni, a 30-year logistics-management specialist at Fort Monmouth, said most of the base workers do not need more information - they're already being deluged with real estate ads and glossy pictorials, all rose pictures about Maryland. He isn't having any of it. It's a very nice quality of life here on the Jersey Shore, Bellantoni said in a telephone interview. I live less than two miles from the beach, very close to Asbury Park. Around here, he said, you have so many more options, including, frankly, safer cities than Baltimore. from N.J. urging Congress to halt transfer of base jobs to Md. -- baltimoresun.com http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-te.md.brac11dec11,0,3140138,\ full.story -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: When a City Relies on a Myopic Plan....
Looks like that site has a curse on it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rkgsx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW. That's really, really, bad. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE
Very aptly said. This is all, if not most of the grievances I have, in a country that espouses, Liberty and Justice, For All, when nothing could be further from the truth! A country, so steeped in racism, that it just rolls off their tongue, naturally! I remember, when Nixon said, I Am Not A Crook! I knew he meant it literaly, but figuratively, he was! He stole, not money or goods, but the integrity of the American Spirit, using his Winning By Any Means Necessary, ideology, by spying on his enemies; his enemies being the American People, who he thought were too stupid to understand, what was really happening! The murder and assassination of JFK, soured me forever, that this was a country of laws. What are laws? They are meant to bring justice to those wronged by physical, mental and mismanaged force upon any citizen of these United States, by anyone committing an offense against another or a group. My understanding. Justice should be swift and undenied! There are those in this group, who proclaim, to not have a racist bone in their body, when if they play themselves back, would note the hypocrisy, they're denying. ALL of us harbor some racist views. It's called survival of the fittest! Those who have always been entitled, feel threatened, whenever another group, threatens, whether they will be denied that, which they've always enjoyed, whether it be a job, a school, a home, where the address is for the priviledged or a certain status in life. It all dates back to Europe, where monarchies reigned and if you were a part of the ruling class, you'd lie, steal or kill, to ensure your status! Isn't that what it's all about today? You are what you drive! You are, what you eat! How much money you make, where you live, how you live and who you dare associate with? If you're not at least a Christian, you're going to hell! That anything less, like a Bhuddist or Muslim, don't matter, doesn't count? Heaven forbid, if you're one of them Mormons! Ask Mitt Romney or JFK, a Catholic, in 1960! History repeats itself, over and over, again! The secrecy in this regime, the governments edict, that we don't NEED to know anything, except what THEY dictate, to a public, asleep at the wheel, because Government wants to nanny-sit, every aspect of our public and personal lives, by tracking everything we do, even this internet note, I'm writing now, to see who is on THEIR side and if not, subject to arrest, torture and possibly disappeared, by the Republicans and the Democrats, who are in bed together, to keep THEIR status, intact! All I have to say, is we had better wake up, before these new Nazis, shred our Constitution, which they already ignore and institute martial law, divide and separate anyone who is not toting the party line. This happened in 1933, to the German, Polish and Austrian people, when Hitler, virtually suspended and took over thier governments! The Bushes are originally from Germany and changed Busch to Bush. It's all online for now, but for how long? George W. Bush, tries to portray himself, as an old cowhand, but read where he was born, where he went to school, the affluence of his grandfather Prescott Bush, their relationship to the oil barons of Saudi Arabia and their relationship to the Bin Laden family, before 9-11. Trust me, nothing is going to happen to Osama, no time soon! We have sattelites that can read the numbers, on a license plate. You and I both know, they know, where Osama Bin Laden is and they're making sure, no harm comes, to him. Bush is tracking our phone calls, cell phones, EZ Passes and emails from Yahoo, MSN and Google. There are actions afoot, to track your debit, credit card transactions and other computer driven actions, that can be requested at will, bypassing FISA and any other agrencies, supposedly set up to thwart their efforts. Scary? It's already happening, with cameras surveilling your every move in Manhatten, supposedly to offset a terror attack! Where surveillance is needed, it's going begging, at the ports and the airports, that the Keystone Kops TSA, misses! Our local law enforcement officers all dress like para-military, designed to beat us back, from demonstrating in the streets, from lessons learned in the 60's! They taser anyone and have, for the least little infraction, such as the man who didn't speak English, was tasered to death, recently. He was Polish and couldn't understand English, had traveled to America, for the first time and had missed his mother's pickup of him, so now he's dead and his mother demands to know why! Blacks and Whites, are engaging each other in coalition, not for the first time, but because, we're ALL in this, together and all we want is Peace! Where did all the technical jobs, go? India, China and Ireland! Why? Cheap labor! Why are all of our kids, pets and ourselves in jeopardy, from illness? Lead paint in toys, plastic in our pet foods and biogenetic food, on our shelves, by
[AsburyPark] Re: the lights on Broadway
I'll hang a banner, from the 11th floor! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/6/2007 8:38:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our next mayor, Le Hinge makes the point that Larry Fishman is allowing The Baronet to waste away and that is oh so true. Let me know when the lawn signs are ready Asbury Lanes, The Fast Lane, and The Baronet are a natural and real historic Arts District that would be an inexpensive and easy means of adding a terrific draw to Asbury Park. Hedwig, pre-Fishman, was drawing 300-400 per performance. Independent film premiers sold out the theatre pre-Fishman. Once Fishman took over, and we were denied access to the building, things went downhill fast. That this is way it is with Fishman is no excuse. Fishman had to see that the passion of the people to restore the Baronet was overwhelming, but why would he care what the people who live work and recreate in AP want. Sadly, the 100 grand we sunk into The Baronet goes to waste and Fishman will one day get his way and knock down a truly historic and a damned beautiful little theatre. Keep hammering away on the above; don't let it fall into a community memory hole. And maybe he won't get his way. As for Rev Kev's remark that the theatre would make a good house of worship. That is just what Asbury needs another non-tax paying entity on the blocks. If anyone who wants to can't find a place to pray in Asbury Park, they must not really want to pray. Nor do we need any more poor spelling in town. (a livly Barronette?) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP
What about embedded Judith Miller, whose ONLY source, was what the Defense Department TOLD her and oh, I forgot, that bastion of truth, Scooter Libby! Don't get me started! Wasn't going to get involved in the JR vs. Mario, dustup, but you asked for it! The fake journalists, inserted with the REAL ones, in the White House briefings, the fake press conference with staff, posing as journalists; was that the State Department? The fake intelligence cooked to look as though it were the truth; see Colin Powell's address to the UN and on and on! You want FAKE, I'll show you fake! JR, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to negate someone, simply because you don't agree is one of the reasons we're in deep doo-doo, now! Who goes to jail now, for outing a CIA operative, whose career, was not only ruined by Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby and possibly the President? Bush said, he's FIRE anyone, for doing this, the son, of the former HEAD of the CIA, Bush, senior! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: So where are the supporting facts for our claim below? In a message dated 12/4/2007 7:31:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, justifiedright@ writes: so history gets distorted read the New York Times for proof of that. ? Jayson. Blair. Could say more - don't need to. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fishman in AP
Sorry, Mario, hadn't read this, but you trumped me better, than I could have expressed myself. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/6/2007 9:14:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jayson. Blair. Could say more - don't need to. You'd need more than one liners in order to disparage a company internationally recognized as a newspaper of record. But don't bother Jayson Blair was an unethical reporter and he was fired when his reports were found to be falsified. Judith Miller's reporting made national headlines when she foolishly fell for leaks from the White House. That WH then tried to lend credibility to its misinformation by quoting the NYT. The Times, true to its professionalism, established a public editor and ombudsman to deal with such issues, and to their credit issued an apology for not vetting WH info during the lead up to the Iraq war. No comparison with Novak, Coulter, Rove, Rush, Malkin, or any of Rupert's propaganda machines. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I'd Like an Old Fashioned Diner in AP
There's an empty one, in Neptune City. The old Star BriteBright Star. Don't know what happened to the Greek family that owned it. On the site of the Taco Bell, Neptune, corner of Hwy.35 and Hwy 33, stood an old 40's diner on that lot for years, until the Taco Bell bought the lot, there. Anyone know who bought the diner? I read that it had been sold, prior to that. Where would it go? The Boardwalk? It would be cool! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't one of these look good in AP. I bet we had some beauties in the past. http://www.oh-diners.com/divers/diners_for_sale.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Repeal Day
Now THAT, was something different! The smoking police, plastic bag police, fois gras police, sagging pants police, lawn darts police, yada, yada, yada! How much you wanna bet, that there will be a sex on a certain day, police? An only two kids, police? A cop in every home, just to make sure, police? And on and on! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2007 6:37:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyuMmyc1Izs) Happy Repeal Day II _http://www.swingercast.com/Danni654/Tequila.wmv_ (http://www.swingercast.com/Danni654/Tequila.wmv) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bush Freezing Sub-Prime Rates?
Gabrielle, If I had to vote Republican, it would be for Chuck Hagel. From the ravages of this administration, he is the only one holding meaningful dialogue, with the Democrats. A great ticket would be Hagel and Obama! I like Dennis Kucinich as much as anyone and if Obama gets the Democrat nod, I would hope he'd consider Kucinich, as VP. Neither one has a personal agenda, except to rescue America, from the demons and thieves running it now. Rome fell and America is racing to her demise, now! They claim History runs in cycles and all great dynasties fall, eventually. A country built, (they say), on belief in God, are practicing hypocrisy, of the WORST kind. Many pilgrims, came here for religious freedom, only to kill off the natives, that were already here! They are still held captive on the longest concentration camps in America; the reservations. When the Louisiana Purchase occurred, America saw it as their Manifest Destiny, to inhabit the entire continent, from sea to shining sea, and they have! If you thought Nixon, was the most secretive and corrupt President, he's looking awfully good to me, now! There was never any intention, on the South's or North's part, to free anyone! See the Indians. There will always be an underclass, in this country! Someone has to work in the sweat factories, do the grunt work in the fields and be a football for the majority, that still believes in that sort of thing. Congress is the ruling class, we are the so-called middle-class and the Mexicans and convicted felons, are the new slavery. I don't call for the overthrow of our government, but I say kick them ALL out, erase the slate and start over! Monmouth County, should have shown us that! We are the mosted hated country, in the world. They don't hate Americans, they hate our policies. I pray that the soldiers, sailors and marines, come home. They have served 2 and 3 deployments. Enough is enough and those in power, who wear their little flags, (made in China), in their lapels, ought to put their bodies, where their mouths, are. I hear that there is a movement by Washington, Canada and Mexico, to make the North American Continent, all one, without borders. Saw a documentary about it, on the Sundance Channel. Very interesting and possible, without the consent of the people, or the Constitution. After this regime, anything is possible! Bill's wife, is a politician, just like Bill! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: assuming i think you should vote for bill's wife when i suggest you got what you deserve for supporting a criminal and a liar is a leap...a pretty big one. you have lots of simple democrats on estrogen in your life? ron paul is looking decent to me...the only one so far to support the american freedom agenda act. i love kucinich, nader will always be a man of incredible intelligence and integrity to me, though his gifts have already been given and denied. we are a long way from a president who will truly serve, and it's our fault. we watch too much tv, have forgotten what it is to be a patriot...most think it means following and bowing to power...we are greedy and therefore allow greed in our leaders...on and on. we truly need to take back our beautiful country...no one person can do that or should be expected to. i feel my ancestors weeping in my bones. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Excuse my doting....
Well, you write like I didn't have any! Assuming as usual! Assuming makes an A$$ out of YOU and me! I have a GREAT-grand child, too! You need to take that chip, off your shoulder! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have kids and grand children for your info. 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, You should learn! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent! You can hire me to do opposition research. I've got the goods on everyone ;-) You are so crazy! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE
Can you put that in writing? I'm all for it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Interesting, Dan. For the past couple of months you've pushed for a let's put the past behind us and move forward together agenda, a stark contrast to the past several years of trying to uncover some sort of malfeasance by various parites. You've also thrown serveral nice comments Terry Reidy's way of late. Now the Deputy Mayor, once a fairly frequent target of yours, is emailing you in what appears to be a social setting. Is there any disclosures in order here? :-) They promised me they would support me in my bid to be mayor in the next election. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: BUCKS Schleping for Wii End Toys
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/3/2007 2:23:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first tag we pulled - a request for a certain wii game. This started a discussion amongst our family. We don't have a wii console, because it is $250.00 and I told my kids I'm not spending that much money on a toy (even though they really want one). Man, people with less means, buy their kids this stuff! Not saying it's right, but kids need to have their expectations, LOWERED! Since they are bombarded with the buy me advertisements, I can't blame them, for wanting one. When you received $25.00, that amount is equivalent to the high cost of kids things, now. Hell! A Soda cost a nickle, candy bars, chips were all 5 cents! They cost a dollar and upwards, now. Kids now, don't even know what penny candy, is! What do you think? I say back to stick ball, tinker toys, and Etch-a-Sketch. Steven Weber is a bit more of a curmudgeon today. A snippet: That's why, I'm not proud to say at the start of another Christmas season, things suck They do and they don't. Depends where you are in the scheme of things. It's up to YOU to be happy, in the Christmas mood, of old. Then be determined to have a Christmas that is more thoughtful, of why the Holiday is celebrated, at all! I used to think, it was the celebration of an ordinary boy, who would do extraordinary things! CNN and FOX are retarded No doubt! They started the divisive Red State/Blue State thing that dredges up North against the South, supposedly decided in 1865! Remember CNN is anchored in Atlanta! Gen. Sherman, was never forgiven for burning it. Even though the South lost the battles, they STILL won the war! All of our military installations, going south. All your rocket boosters, manufactured in the South. Where is NASA? Texas? Where do we take off and land? Florida? During Reconstruction, the Klan was started to let the Blacks know, hey, we're STILL in charge, of YOU! The rest is HIS-story! brutes compared to, say, the BBC World News, which has a far more catholic response to the expectations of its audience. But back in America, Don't know WHAT, this means? Catholic response? mass mediocrity has become the adhesive that binds its citizenry who are no longer incentivized to want better education, to be more vigilant about food and product safety, to expect responsible civil service and to dare hope for accountable leaders. This is to the point of criminal! I think this is perception, in scope! More than 50% of Americans, know exactly what's going on. If the media, which is owned by the Corporations DON'T broadcast public opinion, to protect THEIR bottom line, it is perceived that we are asleep and accept the status quo! Were it not for the internet and listener sponsored media, we'd really be Dumb N Dumber! Those who seek the truth, find it! That stuff is so Greatest Generation. You can say that, again! know...). Steven Weber: The Journey of a Thousand Miles Begins With One Schlepp - Politics on The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-weber/the-journey-of-a-thousand_b_\ 75017.html Good piece! Don't agree with everything, but a good read! It's a wake up call! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Signs of Recovery. A work in Progress. But you can see the Future.
Mario, Great piece! Enjoyed reading every word! Really great signs of hope. I wish the same for our lovely little community. The secret, is getting past all of the politics and the egos. S. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our beachfront makes us different. But in everything else about the redevelopment story below and others I've read, the process seems similar: Revitalization, Restaurants, Renovations, Race Rock and Roll; Clubs, Condos a Center for the performing arts; Trader Joe's, Tripling values, Transitional neighborhoods Trolleys; Boutiques, office Buildings, vacant Buildings; Sidewalks, Streetlights, Shoppers Safety. A work in process. But you can see the future. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Excuse my doting....
Yeah, You should learn! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doting is what parents and grand-parents are supposed to do. It's part of the job description. 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: If you catch Scrooge tonight and through the weekend at the Paramount, watch for Kathy Crachit being played by a little lady who is fast becoming my hero in music :-) My daughter Annalisa wants to make a career on stage. Unlike her Dad, people like her! (she inherited her Mom's sweet side). Hope you all get a chance to meet her. I'm very happy Premeire Theater is back in AP where it belongs. God Bless Gary Mattola. I'll be there tonight. Hope to see you folks there. Wishing her and you, all the best! Congratulations! - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Excuse my doting....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you catch Scrooge tonight and through the weekend at the Paramount, watch for Kathy Crachit being played by a little lady who is fast becoming my hero in music :-) My daughter Annalisa wants to make a career on stage. Unlike her Dad, people like her! (she inherited her Mom's sweet side). Hope you all get a chance to meet her. I'm very happy Premeire Theater is back in AP where it belongs. God Bless Gary Mattola. I'll be there tonight. Hope to see you folks there. Wishing her and you, all the best! Congratulations! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Let's Sue the School Board - Frank - Give us the state monitor's phone # e
Dan and Denise; Who runs Asbury Park? I agree with both of your responses. Can the parents take back THEIR town, THEIR School Board? What? I read this article, yesterday, with a heavy heart. Bureaucracy, taking over and our kids suffering, as usual! That Lucille Davy, had no credible answer to last year's monitors' failings! It is, what it is, as far as SHE'S concerned! She could care less and SHE should be removed for her answer, alone! Asbury Park, is EVERYONE'S CASH COW! The Frank D's and Danny McKee's be DAMNED! Fire all the lawyers'! They want now, what they avoided, over the years and now, Mr. McKee, has to dot every I and cross every T, after he's done all that leg work, for what? Nothing! Title 9, my you know what! Let's stick another obstacle in their path, already! Yeah, we'll break 'em down, no matter what! It's no wonder, Asbury Parkans, are seen as a bunch of losers! We can't win! It's residents, can't get any relief, from this so-called redevelopment plan, which will not benefit us, just the banking and real estate, community. The streets, well Sewall Ave., is being DUG up, again, from a street that was repaved several years ago, to be turned into a pothole haven, as well as Bangs ave., across the tracks! Wherever the minorities are, it's all out, screw you! Just ride through and see what I mean! I'm going to need a front end, soon, no thanks to the mayhem, on the east side. One bright spot, The Asbury Park Football Team, are State Champions, in spite of where they have to live! God Bless the Team, their coaches, parents and supporters of all things, Asbury! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisemchd@ wrote: It's not the school and the BOE thats holding up the Little League Field ---It's the State Monitor and the Lawyer ---something to do with Title 9 is one of the issues holding it up. There were other reasons but the lawyer would not let any of the BOE members speak on this issue. Take a cue from Frank. The lawyers serve at the pleasure of the BOE. It is one thing to perhaps proceed cautiously and listen to counsel. And I understand that there may be a perception of liability if the soil cannot support the lights, etc. But now we are talking about telling the LL to move. The BOE can override the state monitor. I have heard it from too many people, on both sides of the fence that it is obvious that SOMEONE does not want the LL. Who is it? It is time for the BOE to stand up. If there is a real issue with the lights, or something else, exactly what is it and how do you solve it? But from what I hear, it is one obstacle after another that is laid before Danny. That smells. As one obstacle is overcome another is put in his place. If they are going to do this (which we should not allow them to) the BOE should give us all our money back. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
A SENIOR Center and the Board of Ed. Centrally located and convenient, but who listens to me? I'm just the 800 pound gorilla in the room! New City Hall, or is the location, too small? New Recreation Center/Computer Lab/Children's Museum? All purpose Hall, to attract socials/new Library. Just some suggestions. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figured this would be a good discussion for everyone. Curious to see what ideas everyone has for the future of the Metropolitan Hotel site. Single-family homes, apartments, a new hotel, condos, a mix of some or all of those, or something else? Consider its location... close to the beach, close to downtown, adjacent to a park, across the street from new development, on one of the main gateways to the Asbury Park waterfront... what would you like to see built on its site? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
I like that, too! In San Antonio, across the street from the Alamo, is Ripley's Believe it or Not! You see some of the gruesome stuff, that's just in the window! Yeeech! And on the street, was a pink cadillac reportedly driven by Elvis! Next door to that, was a 50's type, movie theatre, with an old fashioned 50's Marquee, right downtown, where public transportation, dropped you off, etc. Didn't know until I visited, but what we think is the Alamo, is just the Mission Church, that once stood there. The Alamo, actually consisted of acres and acres of land, now commercially used in downtown, San Antonio. That old Mission, stood a mile back from, where the ramparts of the Alamo once stood, with Cannons at each corner. Don't believe me? Look it up! I was so proud to see the State Flags of New York, New Jersey and Louisiana hanging, for every man that served in the ill-fated fight. There's still graffiti on the walls and huge Bowie knives, on display in their cases. When I was a kid, with this vivid imagination, I owned a Davy Crockett hat and a rubber pirates' knife! I used to use my mother's eyebrow pencil, to draw a mustache above my lips like Jean LaFitte! Jesus, I was a nut! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some great ideas: http://www.wlra.us/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
Did you learn how to pull, the taffy? I would love to learn how to do that! Criterion is on Lewis Street, in Eatontown, if you want to go and buy some! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Former Home of the Worlds Best Salt Water Taffy...Criterion Chocolates (I worked there... tough dirty work but I loved every minute of it) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education
Mario, For once, I read the APP, on the day it was published! I'm always behind, but I get enough news here, that when I read the paper, I sometime, get another take on someone else's reading. Boola Boola! My uncle Joe, who fought at the Battle of the Bulge, used to sing that song all day for us! He used to sing the songs, from the Jeanette McDonald films, ALL parts, until we had tears rolling down our faces, from laughing. On the song, Boola Boola, those were the only words, he knew! Imagine him, singing THAT, all day! For those who think me crazy, I think it's genetic, in my family! They were such an eccentric bunch of people! My Grandma, was very dramatic! A college educated Southern Belle, to the Max! You haven't seen Steel Magnolias, until you saw them! Very genteel, but FIRM! She ran EVERYTHING, with a steel hand, in a cotton glove! There ARE no dumb southern women, from my vantage point! On the school principal, I admire him, for getting off to a good start. Just showing the kids, that I care and I give a damn, speaks volumes! I've seen others try to do the same, but the system is geared to beat you down! I will pray for the success of a genuinely naive man, but since he comes from the valleys of California, he just might do it! As far as the board, just when I thought they were all getting along, I find that Frank D, is all alone. It must be because he is on the side for right! Okay, going to go back to your link and watch Boola Boola! Thanks Mario, I need a lift! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/28/2007 7:18:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Boola, Boola, was before anybody's time! lol. The football fight song just popped into my head as I was typing that post: memory cells are strange. Probably the only time I ever heard that song occurred when I was a kid watching cartoons on tv with my aunt who was baby sitting me. We both thought it was so silly that we laughed and sang it afterwards. It became our secret code song. Now, thanks to the IMDb web site and your comment, I was able to locate the actual cartoon: Tom and Jerry in Puss n' Toots_Allan M. Hirsh_ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/) . (_http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/_ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/) ) It's on the soundtrack for 8 movies -- all corny as hell, but such sweet memories of kids' tv from the 50's. I echo your sentiment, too! Academics were the thing for me, too! Sports is the reward, for having done the work. It looks like we're in tune with Tyler Blackmore's sentiments. Today's APP article about him hit all the right notes for me. It may seem trivial, but greeting everyone from the school steps is important; I've seen the reassuring effect that has in my own experience elsewhere. Also, his picking up trash is great modeling behavior. Block scheduling, Character Counts, a passion for urban districts with low scores: All encouraging signs that he knows what he's up to. His goal to change the public's perception is no small matter as evidenced by some of the comments following the article. Maybe the most significant point: He knew no one in the city school district when he applied for the job For all the lyrics and everything you never wanted to know about Boola, Boola! _Click here: YAM October 2000 - The Secret Source of that Silly Tune_ (http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/00_10/boola.html) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education
Mario, Boola, Boola, was before anybody's time! I echo your sentiment, too! Academics were the thing for me, too! Sports is the reward, for having done the work, first! Back in the 70's I saw nothing but kids who wanted to be a pro! My advice was, learn all you can, first so you enjoy the fact, that sports is the recreation deserved, for a job well done in school! I dunno, but I enjoyed cheering, knowing that, I missed the honor roll, by a few points! All A's and maybe a B+, kept me on the cheering squad! Without those grades, I was toast! No activities, except books, were it not for my fierce competiveness, in getting those grades! It guaranteed me, that I wasn't just a pretty face! My nemisis, was I had an older sister, who was skipped a grade, she was so smart! She graduated Xavier at 16, honor society, a debutante, her senior year, etc. I had to follow her example, because this was how parents raised their kids, back then. It was Be like your sister, which was no easy feat, for me. I had to put my nose to the grindstone, studing most nights until after 10PM, when there was mid-terms, etc. To my surprise, when you are a constant A student, you get exempted from certain exams, unless they are state mandated! I was one lucky kid, to have the kind of parents, I had. My father taught me Algebra, who without his help, I'd have been a bum, as the sisters would say! So no, I didn't become a bum, or the H word, so prevalent in today's society. The B and H words were for girls who didn't care about themselves. My mother said they were common! Funny, I never heard a boy say those words, only grownups used that language and rarely. I remember my Mom, calling someone a harlot and when I asked what it was, she rolled her eyes at me and said, you don't want to know! Sports are good for children. It teaches sportsmanship and discipline. How to be a member of a team, rather than a gang and making friends, for life. When an adult who could be doing something else, takes time, for kids, I call that love. It's sad, that the Little League Coach is going through something that can be made simple! This is what turns me off and wonder what the hell is going on in this town! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:12:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario and Denise had a short discussion about the varying degrees between supporting education and supporting sports Both were making a valid point A few years back, ... I was heartened by the extreme show of support by AP parents for their football program, but I came to the same conclusion Mario did. Yes, it was a great show of support for an undefeated football team, but, where, I wondered, was that show of support(and outrage) over the sad state of Asbury's school district? Asbury Park seems to be a front runner, when the team is good support them, when the show is Springsteen support him, but the little guys and the losers are just left behind. Fortunately for me, I taught in a system where academics were a top priority. Academics were complemented, not overshadowed, by sports; and more than enough parents were just as interested in Advanced Placement scores as they were in the game scores. I loved teaching advanced placement, BUT I'm also in favor of fully funded performing arts AND physical education classes for all students: teaching life-long skills for physical well-being. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: reply
Where did I say that? In the 60's most men wanted their women barefoot and pregnant! See Stepford Wives, Robots, Workhorses or whatever! Many colonial women died in childbirth and farming women from overwork in the fields. I have no idea what you're talking about. Men wanted their women at home, after WWII, in the 50's. It was the 60's, with the Civil Rights Movement, that urged women to fight for their rights and to question authority! If you were drafted, you and hundreds of thousands were also! Did you serve or avoided the draft? This I do know, my husband served in Viet Nam, got no welcome home, except from me! You lost me mentioning Moslem women. Women in America are still fighting for a place, especially with the Neo-Cons, in Washington, now! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a woman, I've never had any illusions, where most men want us. Now this really surprises me. How many women in this country even care about the way Moslem women are treated? 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, I saw it yesterday. What an eye-opener! There hasn't ever been an honest government, in this country. You only need to watch what actually happened in Boston, during the Revolution and the gradual takeover of this country from its' original inhabitants, with broken treaties, to all out force to placing native Americans on reservations, where they still reside, to this day. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] reply
Jack, I saw it yesterday. What an eye-opener! There hasn't ever been an honest government, in this country. You only need to watch what actually happened in Boston, during the Revolution and the gradual takeover of this country from its' original inhabitants, with broken treaties, to all out force to placing native Americans on reservations, where they still reside, to this day. All people who immigrated here, have been ostracized and discriminated against, beginning with the Indians and whatever flavor of the day, is. I don't believe in illegal immigration, for those, who immigrated legally and that's all I'll say on that. I also saw the American Prospect on Channel 13 and it dealt with the 60's, the radical left's attempt, to disrupt the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago, the formation of the Black Panther's in 1966, in Oakland, the beginning of the 60's Women's movement, the assassinations and America's refusal to have a dialogue on race and the prison industrial complex and Reagan's stint as governor and how he tried to smother the civil rights movement on Berkeley's campuses in California. As a woman, I've never had any illusions, where most men want us. As a Black person, we take 2 steps forward and 10 back, as far as the Constitution representing us, as Americans. When the Panthers took up the gun, Reagan did his best to take them away and succeeded. You now have a NRA card carrying Vice President, who would shoot you, if you tried to disarm him, so who does the 2nd Amendment represent? Why we fight protects, those in power, by think tank appointees, elected by no one, making policy for the military and selling it through speeches, as original thought. Colin Powell found this out in the infamous UN speech, about yellow cake, which is a bald faced lie! People from non-profits and lobbyists groups from K street, run this country, not Congress, not Justice or Executive. Be careful who you think you're voting for; they're just the front men, behind a hidden machine. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a great documentary called Why We Fight that's exactly about this. It's based on propaganda films by Frank Capra. It's a must see in my opinion. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Breaking News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy and/ or a terrorist for thinking it. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535 President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for a potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to be negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home - how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long. The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an enduring relationship in military, economic and political terms. CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer the U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable business interests (such as investment opportunities for American companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York T...
I know that entry too! Hairy, isn't the word! I'm a driver for over 50 years, remember road courtesy, you know, letting someone into a lane, allowing them to get over, letting them turn first, because of backed up traffic and I still get honked, fists raised in the air, get cussed at, because I can read their lips, etc. Road courtesy seems to be a thing of the past, so when someone extends it to me now, I get all choked up, that there are still those out there, that were raised right! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has always been the rule, that you yield to the left. The trouble is that most people don't understand that, nor do they really understand what yield means...you judge the pace of the traffic and proceed in matching that pace. Instead, people stop dead in a panic. One favorite example is the exit 88 Parkway Northbound entrance...holy hell that one is hairy and it's a simple merge that people can't negotiate. If people were competent drivers, circles would be a wonderful thing. The reality is, most people can't drive, they just aren't competent. Jughandles are a great invention, they don't allow people to do stupid things as easily. They can be annoying, but they serve the lowest common denominator very nicely. One thing I wish is that NJ would just have a standard and apply it uniformly. Now you have jughandles in some places, circles in others and fully signal controlled 'normal' intersections with turn lanes and direction signals. It's bad enough being a 'local' to these variations, people from out of the area have no hope. I've quit riding my motorcycle here, I've given up. The average driver is just so incompetent that it's not worth the risk to me. On Nov 25, 2007 2:12 PM, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, No disrespect, but a picture, does not replace reality. There are red yield signs, on Rt. 33 West, making the dominant, county road, the yielder, instead of the inner circle, stopping, than proceeding with caution, traffic permitting. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York T...
You are correct, but some drivers, don't yield to that rule! I seem to have a feel for what they are going to do, by the way I see their vehicle veering. If the guy on the left doesn't yield, I let the dummy, go, think to myself, he/she probably didn't see me; any excuse to keep my own blood pressure, from going up and just go along, my merry, undented, way! La-de-da! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Chris kingsqueak@ wrote: It has always been the rule, that you yield to the left. The trouble is that most people don't understand that, nor do they really understand what yield means... 39:4-90. Right of way at intersections: The driver of a vehicle approaching an intersection shall yield the right of way to a vehicle which has entered the intersection. When 2 vehicles enter an intersection at the same time the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right of way to the driver of the vehicle on the right. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York T...
Mario, No disrespect, but a picture, does not replace reality. There are red yield signs, on Rt. 33 West, making the dominant, county road, the yielder, instead of the inner circle, stopping, than proceeding with caution, traffic permitting. The flow west stops, causing a back up to Wyckoff Rd., where the traffic signal is. Imagine, approaching the Collingswood Cirle/roundabout, or whatever the latest trend, is. On the opposite eastbound lane, same thing! There's more traffic, going west and east than north and south, clogging up a main artery, which was tricky before this latest *uckup, if you pardon, the gutter language, but to a driver, it's scary as hell! You don't want to be rear-ended for YIELDING, nor do you want a left sided fender-bender, for the inside lane car, having the right of way! Either way, no matter which way you enter this roundabout mess, guaranteed to make a professinal driver wince, going around, will either end in a whew or an aw-shit, that was close, situation, if you manage to dodge the proverbial bullet! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/24/2007 11:11:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle Actually the featured picture of the Routes 33 34 Roundabout in Wall is pretty uncomplicated. _A Shift, but for Some Drivers, a Vicious Circle - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/25circlesnj.html?_r=1ref=n yregionspecial2oref=slogin) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This needs to be fixed
It's the old, Catch 22! Damned if you do, damned if you don't! If you ever want to discourage and beat someone down, this is the way, to do it! Frank, I know where your heart is, Can this be resolved? Why does the little league have to pay to change an ordinance? How long has that field, been there? Someone broke the rules, a long time ago! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park Little League Runs Into More Obstacles by Board By TOM CARDINALE The ongoing renovations at the Asbury Park Little League field at Asbury Park High School have run into some new obstacles, according to Little League president Danny McKee. I've been working on this for two years and everyone was aware, McKee said. The school board voted that we could go ahead. McKee says, after meeting with school board member Frank D'Alessandro and the district's Assistant Business Administrator Michael Steinmetz on Mon., Nov. 12 he was told to move forward with the completion of the project. The lighting structures were en route from Iowa and set to be delivered on Nov. 15, he says, when he received a call on Nov. 14 from Aiman Mahmoud, the district's Head Business Administrator, advising him that he would not be able to move forward with the project. Mr. Mahmoud called on Wednesday and said `Stop everything' and I couldn't even store the lights at the field, McKee said. McKee said he believes Mahmoud, who has been a supporter of the project, was acting on instructions from someone from the board. They're always coming up with more hoops for me to jump through, McKee said. The latest issue, according to McKee, is that the board wants a soil test done on the field to ensure the sandy soil can support the lighting structures. However, McKee says that the electrical companies - Lucas Electric and Musko Lighting - have constructed similar lighting towers in far sandier locations. They've installed lights at the bay where they had to wait for the tide to go out to do it, McKee said. McKee says Lucas was aware of the sandy soil throughout the project and has planned ahead for it. He also said he looked into getting a soil test but discovered that it costs nearly $10,000, a cost that would be impossible for the league to afford. If I had $10,000 I'd do the soil test, he said, but I'm on a shoestring as it is. McKee says he hopes to convince the board that the lighting will be safe and secure using testimony from Lucas Electric. Lucas Electric; it warms me how they've handled it, they're storing the lights until it gets resolved, McKee said. The board, according to McKee, has also asked for information from the Little League. Information sought includes bank statements, how much money is in escrow and who will have a key to the field-house. The board also asked about insurance. I asked about the insurance issues a month ago and received no response, he said. Finally, McKee says, it was determined that the deed governing the land which the field is on would need to be changed in order for the project to be completed. He said that the deed prohibits any structures within 25 feet of the street. Under this rule the fence installed by the school is also illegal, McKee said. The school board wants the league, however, to pay the $300 necessary to change the ordinance, McKee said. If this is a microcosm of what's going on down there then they have serious problems, McKee said. The kids, who everyone is supposed to be working for, are nowhere on the radar. Acting School Superintendent James Parham declined to comment on the situation. I can't talk about that right now, he said. There are some legal issues that need to be addressed. McKee says his only choice at this point is to try his best to fulfill their requirements. I could hire an attorney but then what? he said. If I have to hire an attorney that's where I get off. The only reason I haven't given up is because if I do this project will never get done, he said, and everyone who read about it will say same old s different day in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
Don't have to! You answered it, yourself and for that, I say Mea Culpa! You seem to know a lot about the rules and regs, so let's just say, I assumed! You know what assume does, don't you? Again, heartily sorry! Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are very funny. Maureen and I were the only ones that could see that the FCC was busting WYGG's chops for political reasons. Maureen is solely responsible for getting WYGG their power increase with her letter to Pallone. In today's world the FCC is deathly afraid of US Senators and Congressman becuase they tell the FCC who to grant licenses too and control their funding. They now have to kiss the AP zoning boards rear end for a waiver to put a small tower on the roof of their church. She is not on the air because they haven't even applied for the variance yet and don't have the cash to buy the new equipment needed to increase their power. They have three years to complete the project. This said it all! Don't take my word for it why don't you ask Maureen yourself. Mike 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
Amen! What memories, this brings back! In the 50's this announcement was well known during the cold war, when nuclear attacks seemed imminent! So, again, are you the one, who took Maureen off the air? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would shorten your contemplation time while waiting on I-95. Here is a recording that would have been broadcast in the 50's and 60's if we came under a nuclear attack. It is a scripted warning from the old Conelrad system. Listen to it till the very end. By today's standards it wouldn't be politically correct. http://home.comcast.net/~george_allen/attack-warning-3.mp3 Mike Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Jury In and Deadlocked
Mistrial in today's APP. I hope he's acquitted. Some in AP, wanted him out of the way, so we could have the debacle we have in AP! He was the voice for the voiceless and wouldn't accept anything from anyone, for nothing! Just as some support Weldon, I support John! I support him, because I think he's innocent! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, kerrymbutch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jury in Hamilton trial says it is deadlocked Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/21/07 BY CHARLES WEBSTER I NEWARK The jury in the corruption trial of former Asbury Park councilman John Hamilton has told the judge it is unable to reach a verdict. We have decided that will will not come to a unanimous decision on any of the counts, said a note delivered from the jury to U.S. District Court Judge Jose Linares. An earlier note to Linares asked what would be the case if the jury came to an agreement on some, but not all, of the charges. The second note, however, said they were deadlocked. The panel of six men and six women began deliberating shortly before 10 a.m. Tuesday and finished the day without a verdict. Hamilton has been charged with offering public, no-bid contracts to a demolition contractor a role played by FBI informant Robert Duke Steffer in return for having a driveway installed at his home. Steffer was working for the FBI as an undercover informant, and his conversations with Hamilton were recorded. Steffer played a pivotal role in the investigation, culminating in the arrests in 2005 of more than a dozen public officials and vendors in the Monmouth County political corruption probe dubbed Operation Bid Rig. Authorities had Steffer pose as a corrupt contractor and loan shark in dealings with public officials in Monmouth County and several towns between 2001 and 2004. Hamilton is accused of accepting a bribe and bartering to get a driveway installed at his home in 2001; in exchange, authorities say, Hamilton was to steer municipal contracts to Steffer's fictitious company. Hamilton pleaded not guilty to the charges Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
I agree! Why can't the method in the Charter Schools, be used in AP schools? It's Federal money, that should be used in the public school! Not knocking anyone's choice, where to send their child, but my parents PAID my tuition, no one gave them anything and it was their choice to send me to private school! Who pays my parents back? Asbury Park, HAD a sterling reputation! You can see it by the structure of the High School. The building, itself, rivals anything on Princeton's or Monmouth's campus! What can the parents do, to get our system, back in order? Without good teaching professionals, strict discipline, order and a good administration, it's no wonder the system is in the toilet! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . My child is presently in the third grade at Hope Academy Charter and I am researching Charter and private schools at this time because when she graduates the 8th grade (5 years from now) I will not be sending her to AP public schools a,,, you and the others have made a statement. So what is the next step today and in 5 years - which will be tomorrow. Right now you have this curious little mind (not yours, your childs) who hears and sees a ton of things and has to sort them out. Luckily, she has you as a concerned parent trying to guide her along an ugly trail and to do her right. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
What about filing an Amicus Brief? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also a very very good post. Tom I think that if you ever wanted to do the one thing in your life that could truly help Asbury Park, this might be the answer. I think many would support you in this endeavor. And kinda knowing you, you would not care what the opposition thought. How much money would something like this cost to have a case like this fought and won? I know this would be just an estimate. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Oak it looks like we ended up agreeing in the end. I have no problm with choices people make. Go to private school, move to a good public district, etc. I support all of it. I do have a problem with government screwing things up by injecting themselves into it, which is what wrecked APHS - not parental choices. When buying a house, I absolutely avoided Asbury Park and the sending district because the High School is now segregated. I know that many, many other people did the same. That wasn't the case before the RBR ruling. I went to APHS with the sons of doctors, lawyers and millinaire businessmen. Yes, having that demographic was helpful to the poorer kids. That's gone thanks to the ruling. Look at real estate listings. Many of them list private schools on the listing so as not to list APHS. I laugh and cry everytime I see it. Since Avon no longer goes to APHS, their real estate has skyrocketed, now topping $1 Million on the MEDIAN house sale, and holding steady in this downturn. Everything changed when the Commissioner ruled that RBR having a better music program than Asbury Park is more important than whether a black kid goes to a segregated school. Read the decision that Mario linked. That was the ruling. It's the most bigoted, racist piece of government work I've seen in my lifetime, and it is shamelessly ignored. It's ignored because those with the political power in the area benefit from the ruling (like Avon); those without the power suffer from it (Asbury). Just imagine the classic busing issue: If a primarily white school in the area was suddenly going to be filled with poor black kids from Asbury, people would go berserk. There would be all sorts of lawsuits to stop it, with claims of government interference, social engineering, and claims that the school's natural demographic should be preserved. That ruling by the Commissioner is exactly the same thing with the colors reversed. The NATURAL DEMOGRAPHIC of APHS was racially and economically diversified, just as Ocean Township is now. The ruling destroyed that by busing the white kids past Asbury Park to another public school in Little Silver. Who is going to file the the Federal Civil Rights lawsuit claiming de facto segregation (can anyone claim that wasn't the result of the ruling with a straight face)? Are the white parents who are avoiding APHS going to do it? No. The poor black parents? I don't think so. AP Board of Ed? No, too busy gossiping and in fighting to tackle something so serious and important. If APHS was naturally segregated by race, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Since it is racially segregateed by the government with busing to another public school, I'm confident my objection is on the moral high ground, even if I stand alone. Standing alone though, I'm starting to feel like I don't care anymore either. The state can keep the school segregated, Asbury Park Board of Ed (Bored of Ed?) can keep taking the Abbott hush money and not challenge the segregation ruling, and none of it is going to hurt me. So why should I care? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: TD, You and I can both stop, take residence in AP, and stick our kids there. but we haven't. I'd take a gamble on those beers that Deal, Allenhurst, Belmar have LESS HS age kids eligible to go to AP. Then you have determine why those parents CHOOSE to send their kids to a private school, parochial school or to a county speciality school. IT's choice. You and I have made it as well, by choosing to live in towns other then AP with a schools that are well diversified in race and incomes - that being Howell and OT. OT and Howell are not the same as in 1996 nor in are they in our era of the late 70's either. In '75 my class (8th grade) had 3 african american students - and I can name them. In '79 I could still name a few more african american students. And I;m saying I can name them as a good thing casue we were all friends. I can say today the make-up of the the student body, at least in OT, is about as
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Mario and Oakdorf, I agree wholeheartedly, having gone to all Black, albeit, private school. I don't know what the core curriculum is, in the AP school system, or how it's administered. I do know that an awful lot of money is sent into the district, because of the Abbott decision, but it appears, to be going down the drain, instead of into the heads, of our most precious resource; the children! It's obscene the dollar amount being spent and for what? I don't see any physical improvements to the schools facades, to blame it on maintenance. Is it the teachers, the methods, what? It's irksome to not know! Just a guess, but my fear is that a lot of blame goes to the teachers! I've known teachers, with one book and xerox copies, teach and the kids excel! Does this mean the kids are paying attention? I also know that most schools have a breakfast program, similar to the one started in the 60's, by the Black Panthers, emphasizing that if kids, are prepared physically, they will perform better, mentally! I'll bet you, I can walk into a Black Classroom, without any books and with positive reinforcement, the kids, will remember who I am! After a week of this, I'll bet that in 6 weeks, the same kids, will remember me, for the rest of their life! I have a message and the message is, you have to decide who you want to be, white, pink or blue collar, in life. I know it isn't that simple, but if kids go to school knowing that if someone gives a damn, you'll see it, hear about it and know! Just look at AP Pop Warner, no, look at AP varsity, because the same kids were coached by the same Pop Warner Coaches. Kids perform, when taught properly. Kids do better, when they know someone, gives a damn! When you tell kids, do good in school and you can get away from a bad environment, some, not all, will take you up on it. Kids, need life coaches and if you tell a kid how great they are every day, pretty soon, that's how they become! I know, I did it, for 12 years. Not one kid dropped out of school and they ALL graduated, on time! They became teachers, doctors, lawyers, advertising executives, etc. I know; I've attended many a wedding for one of the girls, I coached and told, that no one, was better/greater/smarter/talented/beautiful/, than THEY were! People thought I owned stock in Dunkin Donuts, Kentucky Fried, Tropicana Orange and Hawaiian Punch, for my famous tail-gate parties, after my girls performed! I used positive reinforcement, a smile and lots of hugs! When kids are taught music and dance in school, it prepares them to socialize, in proper company, in a proper setting. I learned the box step and square-dancing, sing a longs, etc. and in health class, we were taught why you wash your hands before and after meals, the rest room protocols, which is why to this day, I carry a pocket package of kleenex! Little things, you never forget, in an uncivilized world! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/20/2007 7:09:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how about analyzing the population shift in general over that period. ... AP has had the OPPORTUNITY with over 1 billion in state aid to build a superior program but failed for one reason or the other. Skip the race issue. No reason a single race school can't excel. You don't need white kids to make the rest smarter. Good points. ll kids have the SAME opportunity for a HIGHER level of education/programs offered i the speciality schools which, as you pointed out, IS NOT open to all residents. You have to apply and hope your kid didn't f-up along the way. A slippery slope with that one - Doesn't M.A.S.T. also have a application procedure? Entry tests? Otherwise how do you choose? Make all the schools strict and fund more programs and enforce strict policies as to learning and discipline instead of letting kids skate along? Parent responsibility is somewhere in there I hope The issue has nothing to do with race. I It shouldn't. Unfortunately, it does. But I think our country, as a whole, has come a long way. Still a way to go. Happy Thanksgiving **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: GO BISHOPS!!!
2 years ago, most of these kids were in the Pop Warner program! They're really special! This year, the Turkey Day game will be played in Neptune. It's an old rivalry! I know, because for years, I took one boy from Asbury and one from Neptune to Breakfast at 6:00 AM in the morning, down to the old L M Diner, on the Asbury Circle. Mr, Conti, the former coach of Asbury Park, then coaching for Ocean Township knew me from my coaching days in Neptune. My 5 kids, went through the Neptune program and are still friends with their old rivals, who if they won, would come to my Neptune home, eat and brag all day or it was wait until next year. I saw a special on HBO about Ohio State adn Michigan. Now THAT's a rivalry. My rival, when I attended Xavier Prep, was St. Augustine's, Home of the Marching 100. Not only did my high school beat them for 4 consecutive years, but I was once married to one of their football players! Our Gold and White High School Band beat theirs, back then, too! We wore the Pope's colors, so we knew we were special! So much for marrying a Catholic! High School prepares kids, for the real world. At least it did, when I was a student. I had never heard of gangs before, mostly because I was raised under a rock! The things a kid has to do to fit in, today, makes me wince! For some of these kids, this will be their last big thing. They certainly will have something to tell thier kids, in later years, if they get to live that long. I certainly support anything this town, wishes to do! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's a thought regarding taxpayer money or funds raised by citizens/mm/asbury partners. Win or lose something special should be done for this football team by this town. Show these kids (and the younger ones who look up to them) what can happen with hard work and dedication. It also sends a message that the town is united and is willing to stand behind the kids when they do good things, not just arrest them when they do bad things. Any ideas? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: The APHS Football team is going to play for their section of the State Championship next Saturday, probably at Rutgers. They are 9-1, having won 9 straight. An enourmous turn around from last year when they were 1-9. In their defense, the board of ed last year acutally let them start the season without having a coach. Anyway, since APHS hasn't won a title in 23 years and hasn't played for one in 20, this is historic. A town gets judged by its football. Maybe it would be a good idea to go up to Rutgers next weekend to support them. It just so happens that Howell is playing the same day at Rutgers for a Championship in a different sectiton, so I get a 2 for 1. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How do we reduce our deficit?
Please run for office! Do you realize this is the ideal? When did the current crew, forget why they were elected? I wish the council would take their power back instead of giving it away! Stop fighting John and get on with it! #4 and all the rest can be accomplished if they'd all, just pull together, but like my daydreams, this is a pipe dream, huh? God Bless, everyone and Happy Thanksgiving! Sharon(My real name) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Hope the developers sell out what they have built so the units come onto the tax rolls. They may have to concede some in their pricing. People read the paper. They want a deal of the century. 2, Come up with a time table for Phase II and III of wesley grove to close the gap between cook and oceanfront. The current developer cant build 2 and 3 cause they havent sold 1. Time to sell off 2 and 23 to new developers and build entry level units in phase 2 and move up a notch in Phase 3. Sell them out. That = revenue. Empty land for the next 22 years will do zero. 3, Continue the work in CH and Ch. Very, very postive. That brings people. People bring business. Business brings people. Continue to book Ch and stick the ponies back in the casino. 4. Continue to fight quality of life issues. Housing, crime, etc. and step it up. 5, Open up the issues of the redevelopment in a public. Encourage the developer to sell off their rights in the entire zone so more can be developed OR LEFT ALONE for the current proeprty owners to develop, enjoy or sell, 6. Move city hall and sell the land. Office space is needed in AP to bring in workers etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking
Glenn, You are so thoughtful! I hope Maxie is found and soon! It's cold out there and rainy today. If I see him, will see if he comes to me. Your duck is precious! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have updated my post in the Greetings from Asbury Park flickr group http://www.flickr.com/groups/asburypark/ http://www.flickr.com/groups/asburypark/ to include the map and Anthony's message. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Below you'll find a shortened URL for a Live Google Map of Maxie sightings. If anybody has a sighting, send me the location and I'll update the map. Here's the URL; http://xrl.us/bbeei Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking
I cracked up, on that one! You're funny! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to take the advice I now give for my own pets. There is a service where you can put a gps in the collar or some even in a chip under the skin (I think i'll go with the former) and you can track your pet on the internet if they get lost. I'll look for the link. I think I'm going to implant one on my wife ): Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: GO BISHOPS!!!
I take you and Denise at your word! I'm now missing a year! Don't laugh, I'm serious! Hope AP takes it all! Don't tell my kids! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisemchd@ wrote: Good morning Sharon---The game is being play in AP @ 10:30 am they played in Neptune last year Hi Group Members, Yes, the Thanksgiving Day game is at Asbury this year, at 10:30 as Denise says. At halftime there will be special presentations for the players and for band members and others as well. Should be a very special day for our extraordinary students in an exceptional year. The state championship game at Rutgers is on the 30th at 5 PM. Frank Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Corzine takes questions live tonight at 6
Mario, At 8:pm, ! Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Live at 8 pm, ch 13 tonight at 8 Governor Jon Corzine responds to questions and challenges about various aspects of life in the Garden State. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A Respsonse to Mr. Vail
This Poem is enscribed on the Statue of Liberty This poem is enscribed on a tabled within the statue. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame. With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp! cries she With silent lips. Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! Emma Lazarus (18491887) But NOT to Asbury Park! Jim, Keep Fighting! I am FOR you and WITH you! Sharon --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, You need to wake up, put your personal vendetta for me aside, and deal with the facts I have presented. We are currently have an $8 million dollar budget deficit. Next year we will have a $12.5 million dollar budget deficit. If we were in the corporate world, that would mean that we are BANKRUPT. If you invested in a company that went bankrupt, who would you hold accountable? The voting majority of the Board of Directors, that's who. Since you (and others) would like some evenhandedness here, let me offer the following. You were the driving force behind shutting down the homeless shelter and your main argument was that Asbury Park has shouldered the burden of all the other surrounding towns for far too long. You said that it's time that towns like Deal, Avon, Belmar, etc. pull their weight. This is a fair argument. Now, in the same way that you do not want to carry another town's burden, they may feel the same way about us. To use your logic, every town that is helping to pay our bills could be saying, Hey Asbury Park, we are tired of paying for failed policies to the tune of $8 million dollars a year or more. Get your own house in order and stop wasting our hard-earned tax dollars. Given your stance on burden sharing, I would think you would agree with this sentiment. But, unfortunately, you are only evenhanded when it suits your personal agenda Paul. Here is the current state of our pending fiscal crisis. I spoke with a representative from the Department of Community Affairs yesterday at the League of Muncipalities Convention. The person I spoke with confirmed that we will be receiving $8 million in aid for 2008. That leaves us $4.5 million dollars short. Are you ready to make up this difference for us Paul? If it is passed on to the tax payers it will cost on average approximately $1300 more on your tax bill. It is no wonder that we are in the state we are in with people of your ilk believing that honestly stating the facts (regardless of who they implicate) and seeking solutions to our city's most pressing problems is irresponsible. Peace, Councilman Jim Keady Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Trial Starts
I say, Play the tapes and HEAR, whose lying! The way this article is written, indicts a defendant, rather than have ALL of the evidence presented, first! Can Mr. Hamilton, get a fair trial? Who knows? Unlike some people, loyal to thier friends, even if guilty and walking the streets, like Weldon, I hope the truth is presented, that Mr. Hamilton, be exonerated of all charges, if found innocent. The operative word, being if! If he is, it should shut a lot of mouths, around here! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Corruption trial begins for former Asbury Park city councilman Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/13/07 BY CHARLES WEBSTER IV Story Chat Post Comment NEWARK John Hamilton sold his office for $2,000 and a driveway,'' said Thomas J. Eicher, deputy chief of the special prosecution division for the U.S. Attorney in New Jersey. The corruption trial for former Asbury Park City Councilman John J. Hamilton Jr. began today with those words to a federal jury in opening statements. Hamilton's attorney, Michael Baldassare, countered that the U.S. Attorney's case was hanging solely on the testimony of FBI informant Robert Duke'' Steffer. In his opening statement, Baldassare called his credibility into question, telling the jury, Steffer lies.'' Why does he lie?'' Baldassare asked. That's what Bobby Steffer does.'' Hamilton has been charged with offering public, no-bid contracts to a demolition contractor in return for having his driveway paved. The contractor - Steffer - was working for the FBI, and his conversations with Hamilton were recorded. Hamilton has pleaded not guilty to the charge. The relationship between Steffer and Hamilton began in May 2001. That's when Vinny Baker, the owner of Jennie's Soul Food restaurant in Asbury Park, introduced Steffer to Hamilton, according to the FBI. Baker has been charged with conspiracy to extort and pleaded guilty to the charges. Hamilton told Steffer that he could find him no-bid demolition work in Asbury Park if in return the contractor agreed to pave Hamilton's driveway free of charge, according to a federal indictment. Steffer paved Hamilton's driveway, according to the indictment. Actually, the FBI hired a contractor, through Steffer, to do the work. When it was done, Hamilton asked Steffer for a receipt to make sure that we both are protected, according to a criminal complaint. An FBI agent prepared a computerized receipt for $1,000, which Steffer later gave to Hamilton. Hamilton took the receipt and promised Steffer that he'd get you some work, according to the criminal complaint. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: peace jewelry?
Try http://www.peaceproject.com. The home page may have what you're looking for. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro njdave@ wrote: Does anyone know where I may find some peace jewelry in town? New or vintage? I'm looking for a necklace or a broach. Try the pawn shop on Cookman Ave. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bad, Bad, Bad Behavior Reported -- Not in Asbury Park, but in our 'Burbs...
Why does he assume it's kids? You have some really sick adults, out there? Just an observation. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memorial vandalized for third time in year 11/13/07 HOWELL â For the third time in a year, vandals have defaced the Sept. 11, 2001, memorial at Newtons Corner Road and Memorial Drive, formerly Jacob Drive. It really sickens me, Councilman Michael Howell said. I just don't understand the mind set of kids that would do something like this. Howell said he believes the repeated vandalism is the work of neighborhood juveniles. You'd like to think it wouldn't be an adult, he said On Jan. 5, Milanowycz and her husband reported the first case of vandalism, which involved the theft of solar lights. Over the summer, the couple say vandals again stole and destroyed lights at the memorial, but this time vandals stole American flags that marked the stones affixed with names of the Howell residents who died that day. The Milanowyczs spent Saturday refurbishing the memorial and say they have spent close to $1,000 repairing the damage left by vandals over the past year Howell said he will discuss the latest attack with other members of the council to see what can be done to stop the memorial's defacement. Police officials say they have increased patrols in the neighborhood and that a 10 p.m. curfew remains in place. Full story: _APP.COM - Memorial vandalized for third time in year | Asbury Park Press Online_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071113/NEWS01/711130347/1004/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
Yes, it was me! Are they on a timer? The time of day, I passed by, they should have been on or about to come on. It was dusk and it may be, that they hadn't been re-timed, due to the change back to Standard Time! My bad! It just LOOKED, so gray and dank! I saw where the plants should have been and felt despair! A lovely little square that should be a bright spot, that reminded me of the poem, two roads converged and I took the one, less traveled, of things remembered, happy and sad, all at the same time. I'm old and get things all mixed up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Ok, here's the deal. I never said all the lights were out. Sharon said it, not you. We are starting to get a little hysterical about the lights. One step at a time. Let's get them working and then see about have uniform and appropriate lighting for the park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Comment on the Esperanza Sale
When I was the President/Chapeau of the 8 40, for Monmouth County, 2004-06, I had all of my formal luncheons and dinners, over at the Berkley, (before this last renovation), being a resident and displaying what is good about this City. The upcoming President/Chapeau, is a resident of Neptune and I'm looking into Old Man Rafferty's, to have her incoming Dinner, there, in the Spring. It gives us a chance to get dressed up and out of the sweats/jeans/old people clothes and have some REAL fun! We put on our painted faces, new hair cuts/dos and act like we're civilized! I enjoy showing off, how great Asbury Park, really is and how wonderful it is to live here, (most of the time)! Aside from the gritty, misery, we have to put up with, because we're in transition, this really is a great place to live in. We do good work for Monmouth County and the hospitals, here, JSUMC and Monmouth Medical Center. I show the girls, where they can buy GOOD stuff, the nice places to grab a bite and to come see for themselves, a City in the re-making. Just wish they had left something to remember! Sigh! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Werner. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Any chance you might have the link handy for the BCH story? Thank you = This one ? http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200771106021 http://tinyurl.com/3a3qfx Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
See, you can't turn me loose in Wegman's! I am all FOR this product, because being a transplant, I'd mail some of this good stuff, back to my sisters in N.O.! They just LOVE getting stuff, from NJ! Anything that says NJ, or Asbury Park, speak volumes, for the City that never sleeps! Please let us know, when the product goes on sale! S --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luckily for you a brought back a few jars. Let me know your address and I can UPS you a few jars or if you are around town we can meet up later, I will be done with my meeting around 4 PM. E-mail me offline if you would like. Dannie Wegman himself is very excited about this projecthe presented us with an innovation award for developing this product, only the third time they have given out this award in their history! John ra ra cheerleader --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri john@ wrote: Great posts the last 2 days! Not sure if I like the planters as I have not seen them. I will be in AP tommorrow for a meeting and will take a look. I am up in Rochester with the Wegman's guys.we just starting packing a new organic strawberry and raspberry jam for them under the wegman (Jammin) label...65% fruit and significantly less calories of the typical jams in the market loaded with sugar / corn syrup, extenders, etc. === Mm Raspberry ??? Put me down for some !!! Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Jam
I kid you not, I actually have some, in a small jar, with a paper label, that says, Asbury Park! I've had it for a while, (some years), about 14, to be exact. Who knew? Just catching up and I have to go out today and guess, where I'm going? Wegmann's, to get some of that Jam! It takes me almost a year to eat a jar of Smucker's, since I'm the only one who does strawberry! I have grape, apple, strawberry and orange! Think I like jam? You bet! I just want to display the stuff! Hey, anybody seen JR? It's quiet here! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/8/2007 7:54:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Are you suggesting a Jam with salt water taffy in it? Just about anything is possible from a manufacturing standpoint.. any Well, you did a nice job with that grape seed basting oil - you recommended, I bought, I liked. I'd recommend strawberry / rhubarb, but no one in the world except me likes that combo. Anything with Asbury Park, Greetings from, Salt Water, should be marketable. Geez, I remember seeing on eBay, offerings of Asbury Park Sand for sale when Bruce did his Rising thing on NBC's Today Show. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From Con to Collar
I can't stop giggling! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/9/2007 2:31:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know there must be some moral to the fact the so many cons become clergy when they get out of the joint. Don't get me started on that one. . ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Jam
My kitchen is available! A great fund raiser and awareness builder! Quick, before Asbury Partners get wind of it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/8/2007 10:58:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, An idea - develop Asbury Park Jam The product line could be endless. Here's the hook - organic and made, not manufactured, by a diverse workforce using a low-carbon footprint Rainbow label of course. Greetings from Asbury Park Salt Water Taffy Jam Too long for a label? grin ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Legalize This!
Mario, I had heard about the jammers on CNN, last week! When I heard they were illegal, that thwarted me from buying one! Are phoners, that needy, that they have to be ON the thing, 24/7? I wonder sometimes, if there IS someone on the other end, or are they THAT rude? Whatever happened to manners, like excuse me and thank you? Bring back TELEPHONE booths! We're a rude, MEANspirited, JUST ME society, now! Great piece! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OT, but thought some would enjoy this with your nightcaps, morning coffee, or... whatever. From Click here: Devices Enforce Silence of Cellphones, Illegally - New York Times http://nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html?ei=5087en=ffb81\ 52ab2245c2dex=121005excamp=mkt_at1pagewanted=all One afternoon in early September, an architect boarded his commuter train and became a cellphone vigilante. He sat down next to a 20-something woman who he said was blabbing away into her phone. She was using the word `like' all the time. She sounded like a Valley Girl, said the architect, Andrew, who declined to give his last name because what he did next was illegal. And some of the letters in response are even better. Like: 1. As my fellow riders rolled their eyes and gritted their teeth, I turned my head slightly over my shoulder and yelled (I have a pretty strong yell), Shaddup already!2. Could you speak just a bit louder they can't quite hear you in Brooklyn.3. You want to talk real loud about, like, nothing? You can do that at home as much as you want. Oh, you don't want to waste your time at home talking about nothing? O.K., then save it for work. No one expects anything else of you there anyway.Excerpted from letters: Click here: When Your Cellphone Is in My Space - New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/opinion/l06cell.html?n=Top/Opinion/Ed\ itorials%20and%20Op-Ed/Letters Now if only someone would invent a device to zap or embarrass litterers. Quite a civil society, eh?[;)] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How does BW activity help the bottom line ?
The problem with you Werner, is YOU make TOO much sense! You lay it all out plain and simple! No double talk, double entendre's, nada! Plain old english, the way I like it. If I could repeat my post to you, I would. If I could apologize for the actions, taken against you, I hope you know, that this group, is in your corner. You have been the voice of reason, of good common sense, a person who REALLY cares and knows what this City was and now, what it is. I've learned so much through you, Frank, Mario, Dan, Glenn, Jack, Maureen, God Bless her, the short salespro, the bikeman, the couple and if I missed someone, I didn't mean to leave you out! Really, I thought I knew about AP; yeah, I've been reading negative stuff about this town, since I landed here, but I was taught, Believe NONE of what you hear, and HALF, of what you see! I knew that there must be something awfully valuable here, because EVERYBODY, want a piece! Like the Big Apple, I ain't never got a bite! Let me back up a bit; Thanks to the legal eagle, JR and all of the real estate people! Know what else? I don't agree with everyone, all the time, but I respect the fact that I just may be wrong, as perfect as I think I am! After a hard election, where lots of mud was flung, we're still here. Werner, thanks for your knowledge and I wish I had done my homework, like you have. Just wanted to give you 2 thumbs up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: As hard as it is to feel this way, I don't think MM can be saddled with the sins of the past and be forced to play catchup, either by working 5 times faster or by somehow being forced to deal with the shortfall in taxables caused by Partners lack of progress. My opinion is that you have to look at MM's entry as the starting point for them and judge what they are able to do in a reasonable timeframe apart from justifyable frustrations that should be directed to Partners. It is never wise to punish the son for the sins of the father. Judge MM on what they are doing as though the slate with them is clean. Again, nobody will always agree with what they do but overall they seem to be investing and things are getting done. I wish we had five years back but we don't and it wasn't their fault. === Just some clarification as to the responsibilities/positions of the parties involved. Asbury Partners has the development rights in the entire Redevelopment Area (I'll give the boundaries if anyone is interested) They are responsible for assembling large parcels of property in the RA and selling them to 'real' developers. They own everything east of Ocean Ave due to the sale of public property by the City. That property is not in the RA and has not been rehabilitated as was promised. Madison Marquette is a partner of Asbury Partners with Asbury Partners holding the majority say. MM is in for the retail component along the beachfront (E of Ocean Ave). Then there's Paramount (N of BCH) Metro (C-8) and Westminster (Wesley) all of which are developing property that Asbury Partners received title to from the Carabetta settlement. No ED was used to acquire them. The point of all this - just to put it all in perspective while figuring out who to blame/praise for what's going on. (Ultimately, isn't it the City Council?) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear
Ditto, my last post! Forgot to mention Oakdorf! Thanks again Oak, for educating me! Werner, these two posts are the AP, my kids were raised with BF, to borrow your acronym! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Sobering thoughts about the arena. I remember when, a long time ago, AP had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.). Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this article. Adapted from Newark Arena's Economic Impact Unclear - New York Times == And, for a blast from the past regarding 'holistic' development read my writings from BF (Before Fishman): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/372 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/603 Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
I'm inclined, no, convinced of what you state and you state it clearly! Coming from you, who I consider reliable AND honest, I take you at your word! Thanks for simplifying, what I already thought! I consider what you state, to be the truth and nothing else! You're like E.F. Hutton! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite the improvements to the BW that MM/partners or whoever has made. I am still deeply troubled. I came to this conclusion almost 4 years ago and have tried to dissuade myself. I can't escape it however. Things will not go right until Partners leaves or has an epiphany. MM may lose patience as it loses more money. Metro is fed up with them as is probably the city. I met with the BCH people this morning on a NYC matter. Ultra deep pockets. They spoke to Partners and MM. They have no use for Partners. Don't believe a word they say. They are of the opinion that the city took it on the chin in this deal. I am passed placing blame. Somehow Partners has to go. Don't get me wrong - I recognize and welcome many of the improvements over the past year. What I am afraid of is that it will dry up and wither as soon as MM has had enough. Not that MM is a white knight, but I know what life and progress was under Partners alone. Hopefully I am wrong, but when I see extremely successful real estate people all come to the same conclusion my fear is reinforced. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Park update and Trinity Church Meeting
Jack, So glad to hear that you have connected with someone. I edited my reply just to say this. Yesterday I celebrated my anniversary, by going on an early Christmas shopping jaunt and lunch in Eatontown. We came through Sunset Ave. to Main St. At the light was the dog and pony show, the PD on horseback, a gross waste of money IMHO, but if this is what the residents want, who am I? Being of a practical mind, I could think of so many better ways the funds dedicated to this, could be spent. Having been raised in a large city, Cops on horseback were used during Mardi Gras season, when the Circus came to town and at the Superdome. Crowd control! Where's the crowd here? I've also seen mounted police at Veterans Stadium, during football season, yeah, I know it was torn down and at Shea Stadium, when the Jets played there! crowd control! Is it me or is Asbury, a gentrified fairy tale? I mean that literally, no puns or jokes intended! I'm serious! What a waste, as they trotted and walked down Main St. Couldn't wait, to get away from them. It's a shame and we allow it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I'll like to update the group with things concerning LSP. First off, I'm continuing in my effort to get the lighting fixed. Reidy still hasn't returned my email, but I have had a discussion with his assistant about 2 weeks ago, but as of yet, still no progress with getting the lights fixed. I'll keep trying though, and I may have a meeting with JK very soon to discuss this. The PD has been patrolling the area since I found the hypodermic needle, and the ocean front security patrols have also expanded to the east side of the park. Since the cleanup of the park, no new drug bags have been found. Unfortunately, some of our residents still view the vandalized fountain and surrounding park as a dumping ground. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
Jack, Today, I went past the park, slooowly and I thought it was a disgrace! Not a light to be found! The plants? GONE! Not many people in the park, due to the weather, but it looks neglected! NO, it isn't YOU! What in the world is going on over there? But this town has cajones, for a dog and pony show, but not a sheckle, for a light, in what could be, a pretty, town square! SAD! Where are the priorities? I can hear out of towners, Asbury can't fix its' infrastructure, but has tons of money, (from the state), for EVERYTHING else! Your TAX dollars at work! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about how difficult it is to get a few lights repaired in a troubled park? I'm wondering how many emails and phone calls it's gonna take. David Stout told me it took 5 months to get a street light fixed near Trinity Church. Ridiculous. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
Like you, dear! A LOT of money and time, wouldn't have been wasted if they listened to you, JUST once! But...That would be too easy or like doing the right thing and protecting the integrity of a City, I barely recognize! It just lives in memory! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: React, what else? I hate to say it, we protest to no end, in this forum, but nothing is ever solved, in our favor. Cynical? Yes! The despair is, we're powerless to get anything done! == There is most likely more useful talent here then is employed by the City. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Neutered Radio Nowhere Sterilizing Stifling the Boss?
If an emergency happened today, the only station, we could get live information, would be NJ 101.5, or WNYC 91.5! Everything else would be on the shortwave bands. Will 88.1 be able to do it? We'll never see the likes of Murrow, again! The closest to this is Bill Moyers! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/3/2007 8:12:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After all, it wouldn't be so challenging (and rewarding) to seek out signs of life in music and culture had Clear Channel not _developed the machinery_ (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/6432174/inside_clear_channel) necessary to sterilize and neuter the radio landscape. It wasn't the first corporation to try, but Clear Channel has succeeded more wildly than anyone could have anticipated. We're not in the business of providing news and information,We're not in the business of providing news and infoFortune in 2003. We're not in the business of providing well-researched music. We're simply in the business of selling our customers products. Shudder... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a political rant
That's the problem with journalists, when they get TOO close, to those they are supposed to investigate! You've lost me to Gwen Ifill forever! To look at Gwen, right off, you'd say, oh, an African-American! Wrong! She's from the Caribbean and not African American in the truest sense! Just as all whites aren't from England, the same goes for Blacks, as was the case with Colin Powell, whose parentage is also from the West Indies. Things just aren't what they seem. In the fight for civil rights, Gwen and Colin were absent on the picket lines, but take advantage of any gains American Blacks have achieved. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for Gwen My Dinners with Condi Ifill. AMY GOODMAN: You also write about Gwen Ifill and Condoleezza Rice. ERIC BOEHLERT: Right, they are good friends. Condoleezza Rice said at a function, talked about how they'd had dinner together, and Gwen Ifill was such a great cook, and this was right at the time when Condoleezza Rice was in -- got in trouble for not being up to speed, not reading an entire N.I.E. report. This was the whole Joe Wilson, aluminum tubes from Africa, and her explanation at the time was, `well, I didn't read the whole report,' but within weeks she had told Gwen Ifill two completely different explanations. But Gwen Ifill didn't ask her the obvious follow-up question: `Did you read the report or did you not?' And again, the fact that they're buddies and have a close social friendship, maybe it explains it. I don't know what else explains the sort of timidity that we've seen. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/07/1420203 On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/2/2007 1:38:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anybody else sick to death of the complete and utter bullshit being heaped upon America this election season? THIS election season? Since 24/7 cable news lured people from newspapers, all election seasons are hellish. Tabloid TV. Gotcha gobbledygook. Breathless (Wolfe) Blitzer and his clones turn everything into a crisis. And the season is now interminable, 365 days of every year. Remember when there were only 2 or 3 debates? My vote for sane TV reporting: PBS's NewsHour With Jim Lehrer See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
React, what else? I hate to say it, we protest to no end, in this forum, but nothing is ever solved, in our favor. Cynical? Yes! The despair is, we're powerless to get anything done! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: - There are new large scale planters around the Paramoun entrance and along Ocean ave across from CH. Their huge, and look good in my Another inappropriate use of resources and waste of money. Large concrete planters and lots of plants - WHY ??? So, they spend tons on money to put potted plants next to the park. Dysfunctional everyone is entitiled to an opinion, quite frankly i think they are totally out of place, fugly, have no historic link or value to our city, this is not south beach? its asbury, i want to know who put them there? werner were they part of the the redevelopment agreement or is this madison marquette over steping their boundaries?( wouldnt be the first time) did anyone from the city know they were going to be placed? i doubt it or there would of been a dog and pony show, like the frigging horses, two cops off the beat for p.r., b.s. does anyone know whats going to happen next ? or do we just react to the new almighty saviors? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: FBI's Monmouth County Corruption Targets
Isn't it funny? The group, well some, who are sitting in charge, complained about the group, now serving time! Same thing! Couldn't get any documents and this group? Worse! No improvement and they refer you elsewhere, only to wind up, where you started! Didn't know the school board is doing the same thing! Just look at Washington! The Vice President held secret energy meetings, with OUR tax dollars and has yet, to release any details about it! So the SECRETS, start at the top, just like a stinking fish! Just an observation! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting this. When I look at this list, I thinkwho is currently serving AP at the moment that will be on this list 2 years from now? There is noone that would surprise me. Somehow, public servants have to be held to SERVICE more often. The Center for Civic Responsibility is a group working on that. Fostering a culture of service. That is what it is supposed to be. Not self serving. My limited experience with AP gov is rather disappointing, they don't get it. While I understand dealing with citizens can be a pain in the ass, that is what you are there for. Most up there seem genuinely annoyed by citizens. And trying to get documents...OY! A government that cares for democracy would have every transcript free and available on PDF for all to see, not to mention meetings broadcast on public access and the web. An attempt to get a transcript some time ago sent me to a service that sent me back to the city and then a we will get back to you no deal. never heard from anyone. It was as if they had no idea how to get info to citizens. the Board of ed, same thing. We shouldn't have to fill our paperwork to see what tax dollars are paying for. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Inside Clamdigger: More magnanimous behavior
It's one of the dirty little secrets, some Republicans employ, to throw someone off their path! The very name Rastaman infers a person of color, instead of the despot, he REALLY is! The colonials, employed this at the Boston Tea Party, when they dressed as Indians, to hide, their identity! I'll probably get some flak/blowback/whatever, from those who don't see through this ploy/trick-on-words, to confuse, etc., but by now, a savvy reader would see right through this string, of dirty tricks, the Repugs have always used, against their perceived enemies. Think Nixon and you get the picture! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More magnanimous behavior: Inzerillo defends Freeholder Little in Rastaman controversy http://politicsnj.com/inzerillo-defends-freeholder-little-rastaman-cont\ roversy-13474 Lenny Inzerillo, the Democratic candidate for the 13th District, has posted a press release on PoliticsNJ.com. Personally, I think Lenny has a lot of class stepping up for Freeholder Little and her family, especially given the fact that she is not even in his political party. I think that Rastaman has done a lot of damage to people and he as well those responsible for his political career should really take stock in themselves (just on a human being level), given the fact that innocent families, and even children, were attacked over politics in the name of the people Alan Moretti (who is at least one of the Rastamen) supported. What kind of person accepts support from someone like this? What kind of person wants to be identified with this? I keep hearing about how this guy was a Christian and such, and yet that ethos had no problem translating into venomous attacks against innocent people...not to mention the outright assassination of peoples' characters that he did. Thank you, Mr. Inzerillo, for weighing in on this Rastaman. Click on the headline and go there.original post by by JIM PURCELL 10/30/07 Click here: The Inside Clamdigger: Inzerillo defends Freeholder Little in Rastaman controversy http://theinsideclamdigger.blogspot.com/2007/10/inzerillo-defends-freeh\ older-little-in.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Clear Channel Bruce Springsteen's Latest
See what I mean? How can media be free, when the owners DICTATE, what will, or will NOT be aired? Who OWNS the media? WE don't! Clear Channel should be reported and sanctioned/fined/license suspended or revoked! This is how the communists control their media! I thought that we had a democracy! Call me a liberal, but I believe in FREE speech and airwaves that aren't TAINTED with ones' OWN political leanings! Bruce is an American with free will and free speech! This is a violation of free and unhampered speech! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sources claim that Clear Channel has sent an edict to its classic rock stations not to play tracks from Magic. But it's OK to play old Springsteen tracks such as Dancing in the Dark, Born to Run and Born in the USA. From: Click here: Radio Boycotts Bruce Springsteen's Latest - Entertainment on The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/30/radio-boycotts-bruce-spri_n_70\ 369.html Another take:Click here: Ageism?: Clear Channel More Interested In Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/clear-channel-more-interested-in-pl\ aying-old-music-than-music-by-old-people-316765.php Related: Plaintiffs from 23 different regions across the United States who purchased tickets to live rock concerts from Clear Channel or one of its subsidiaries filed class action suits. Plaintiffs attended live rock concerts promoted by Defendants such as Madonna, Bruce Springsteen, Eric Clapton, Billy Joel, Elvis Costello and The Who. Click here: Clear Channel Must Face the Music as Judge Certifies Class Action for Concert-Goers http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/AQTU29123102007\ -1.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: All the Venom in the State spewed in Monmouth County???
As he departed with his winnings, toungue in cheek Priceless! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ wrote: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! Captain Renault Croupier: Your winnings, sir. Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much. [aloud] Captain Renault: Everybody out at once! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Inside Clamdigger: More magnanimous behavior
The Northern Monmouth's version, of the Coaster, huh? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More magnanimous behavior: Inzerillo defends Freeholder Little in Rastaman controversy http://politicsnj.com/inzerillo-defends-freeholder-little-rastaman-cont\ roversy-13474 Lenny Inzerillo, the Democratic candidate for the 13th District, has posted a press release on PoliticsNJ.com. Personally, I think Lenny has a lot of class stepping up for Freeholder Little and her family, especially given the fact that she is not even in his political party. I think that Rastaman has done a lot of damage to people and he as well those responsible for his political career should really take stock in themselves (just on a human being level), given the fact that innocent families, and even children, were attacked over politics in the name of the people Alan Moretti (who is at least one of the Rastamen) supported. What kind of person accepts support from someone like this? What kind of person wants to be identified with this? I keep hearing about how this guy was a Christian and such, and yet that ethos had no problem translating into venomous attacks against innocent people...not to mention the outright assassination of peoples' characters that he did. Thank you, Mr. Inzerillo, for weighing in on this Rastaman. Click on the headline and go there.original post by by JIM PURCELL 10/30/07 Click here: The Inside Clamdigger: Inzerillo defends Freeholder Little in Rastaman controversy http://theinsideclamdigger.blogspot.com/2007/10/inzerillo-defends-freeh\ older-little-in.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Coffee-Mug-Wielding Bruce Fan Attacks Clear Channel
The link didn't work for me, but I found everything else and signed up for the Buzz! Thanks, I would've loved to see that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Coffee-Mug-Wielding Blogger Attacks Radio Station for Lack of Springsteen_ (http://www.phillymag.com/blogs/philly/2007/10/31/coffee-mug-wielding-blogger-a ttacks-radio-station-for-lack-of-springsteen/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Inside Clamdigger: More magnanimous behavior
Mario, I giggled at the last line you wrote! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/1/2007 10:28:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sharon_b283 @yahoo.com writes: I'll probably get some flak/blowback/ == Somehow I think you're inoculated against all that. == And it's Hallowmas, to boot. You're safe. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove for Downsizers
Did he ever age or what? I should talk! I can play ME back from gray to Black hair too! Amazing, what I saw on the link provided...Food for thought and reflection. I never saw myself as old, until I look at my military ID! I have a thin me with jet black hair and a fat me with silver hair! I need a makeover! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/1/2007 1:45:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only Americans and some other westerners could need this much storage. and joke about it. Some critics call it Affluenza. I prefer those like Carlin who use humor rather than those who preach about it. If he had to choose one routine that he's most proud of, it's A Place for My Stuff, his riff on our materialistic need to accumulate. (That's what your house is, a place to keep your stuff while you go out and get more stuff!) It had such universal reach, he says. Everyone who heard it could identify strongly with it. And don't think that the founder of The Container Store wasn't listening. http://tinyurl.com/2qcvek http://tinyurl.com/2qcvek Despite the numerous container industries, there are now millions of web sites offering advice on how to unclutter one's life. And so it goes. Can't find Carlin's 2005 update, but the hallowed old routine still gives one pause. Click here: George Carlin - Stuff http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8896213084482448693 (video) Click here: Funny Stories and Jokes http://www.writers-free-reference.com/funny/story085.htm (text) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove for Downsizers
My thoughts, exactly! Great post! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh god I love that man. I remember watching him some time ago and I started to realize that he was lecturing. not just being funny, though he always is. he was calling us on our bullshit. yeah preaching never works. i worked in a vegan organic restaurant for years and there IS such a thing as vegetarian fascists. but we could use need a little more awareness. i think there is an inverse relationship between happiness and excessive consumption. people really think labels get them something. I was having an incredibly delicious eggplant parm pizza at mattison park over the summer and this chick stepped up to the bar, put her purse on it, and announced to my friend and i that it was Prada. we hadn't asked, or even mentioned the purse. That to me is dis - ease. the weird thing is that has happened to me before, the other time on Block Island with a Prada shoe. a chick took off her shoe, put it on the bar and announce Prada. Shit like that...or I should say my response to shit like that has given me a wicked wrinkle between my eyes. as my nephew would say what tha..? i don't know what the best way is to tell people that they are poisoning their children's environment by using the detergent they do, or wacking out their endocrine system with the lotion they use..but it's true. cheers! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
Mario, I'm willing, because I have the time, to meet on a given day, place and time, to clean up, one block, one street at a time, like an improvement group, to make someone else's surroundings pleasing and sanitary. The dollar store on Main and Sewall, sells mops, brooms, buckets, etc., all for a dollar! My galley kitchen and bath, are the only 2 tiled areas, here. I even have a fake grass lawn, on the terrace! Don't laugh! Every summer I create a garden in the large containers I own, creating an oasis in the air! I had huge strawberries, tomatoes and chiles, along with wild flowers, ferns and summer plants growing like mad, over here! I am willing also to plant hardy mums and other seasonal plants, around time, with my 2 good hands and discretionary income, to create the town called perfect, because it's where we should all live! The little breakfast places around town, have the nicest people in the world, operating them, like Chat Nibble and America's Cup! It takes five minutes to scramble eggs and toast a bun, but it always tastes better, when someone else does it! At Sunset Landing, you get those crazy ducks! At Franks, you get the important people and the ordinaries, like me! I dream a world, but since it's just a dream, I try to live it, so Jack, whenever you're ready, I'll come with broom and rubber gloves to clean up! When it's time to plant, I'll provide some flowers! I don't mind a little sweat and I still have 2 good hands. I don't consider myself a do-gooder! I hate 'em! I like to just pitch in, where needed. I still own a couple of aprons, but never considered myself, domestic! When my kids were hungry, I cooked, when they were dirty, I cleaned them in places they didn't know they had! Well, they're gone now and things still need to be done, so just buzz me and tell me where I'm needed! I'm good-hearted, but not a goody, 2 shoes! Just sign me, a dreamer! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/24/2007 8:07:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simple stuff! Me, with my far left leanings, move to the right many times, if I feel like my personal lifestyle is threatened! I experience many, Oh God moments! People who are down and out, are usually cynical and don't think of helping someone else, until their needs are met and they're usually desperate. I'm at a loss for words, as to how you get them to pick up trash, that someone else is responsible for. As usual, I'm not responsible for any statements, other than my own. As usual, your forthrightness gives one pause. An your loss of words sounds eloquent to me. Chronic problems endured by this city and many others across the nation. And no easy solutions apparently. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: business district merchants
Yes! Bring a coffee pot, and I'll bring/make the coffee! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if a political/charitable event were staged to 1) meet some candidates, 2) donate to a local, worthy cause, and 3) drive some attention into the business district... would anyone be interested? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
I've always given mine to the Salvation Army. Twice a year, I clean the closets out and good, clean, wearable garments, are accepted. You can also take a tax deduction. On the 1st Avenue side, is where you can take the clothing, shoes, appliances, knick knacks, aka dust catchers and Cha-chis, books, furniture, even canned goods, you don't want. Turned off by the food giveaway at St. Peter's Thrift Store, now, defunct, I began carting my stuff, over there, on Main St. Many staffers are volunteers and are very cordial and friendly. My organization, hosts, table sales, chinese auctions, etc., and I tend to buy the new things, like candles and gift sets. Many stores that have items they couldn't sell, wind up over there! Still in their packaging, brand new! I usually have 2 shopping bags, of new items, to generate sales. The money from sales, goes toward the general fund, that pays for postage, copy paper, etc. My organization, like the Salvation Army, is non-profit, all volunteer and lobbies for veterans issues. I collect white porcelain and have found really unusual pieces, over there, CHEAP! If you want to get rid of your stuff, take it to the Salvation Army. The clothing goes to families in distress, from fires, floods and other natural disasters. I had never been in the building on Asbury Avenue, until the fire, last month. I needed to get indoors, from the heat and found refuge there. I will never forget them, for the soft chair and the cold water. I wish everyone in this group, could send them a dollar! They really provided a safe place to congregate and rest, after standing outdoors, for hours. I think of the commercial played during Christmas, with their bell and donation holder. I'm so glad I never passed the pot by, without dropping something in. My daughter, who is 36, does the same, because I would always give her a dollar, to drop into the pot, when she was but a toddler. See, you have me all worked up, now! I love those people! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/23/2007 4:59:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I stopped in to donate some clothing and walked in on the giveaway. Most churches in the area, have something, going on, which is funded by the government and distributed by the churches. Sisters of Mercy, were doing the same thing on Main St. and Bradley Beach, has a location, also. Sharon, I've narrowed down my choices for local organizations that can best use my too much stuff. 1. Habitat's ReStore for just about anything except clothing. 2. SPCA for bed linens, towels, etc. But, What is your top recommendation for donating new and good used clothing? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Go Kosher
It must be why I love garlic pickles! When I lived in Florida, I'd drive 30 miles, past the Gator Bowl, to Jacksonville, to have a corn beef on rye, with a pickle! I was living in Atlantic Beach, outside the gates of the Mayport Naval Base. I did this every other day, just to get this sandwich, every other day! I was raised on a diet of French/German/Italian/Spanish foods and thought everyone did! Who knew? Collingswood Auction, keeps barrels of various kinds of homemade pickles! Worth every penny! I would love to sit down in a deli and just smell the smells! Now, I'm hungry! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be great to have a real Jewish deli back in AP. In a message dated 10/22/2007 1:07:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Go Kosher. There are no memories without the deli. My father has no memories without the store. His smile was easy. Itâll be nice to have it back. _Click here: Second Avenue Deli - Jewish Delis - Abe Lebewohl - New York City - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/magazine/21deli-t.html?pagewanted=all) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
Just another observation. If you don't live on the West Side, you'd never know, but St. Augustine's Episcopal Church, has a fedding program, ONCE a month! The last Sunday, I believe. My girl friend is a parishioner and helps with the preparation and the serving. On Fridays, if you care, people form a line and receive free food, around 9:00 AM, until ??? The first time I saw this a coule of years ago, I didn't know what was going on, until I asked someone whose business, I patronize, on the avenue, as we call it. St. Peter Claver, had a similar program, when they had the thrift store. I stopped in to donate some clothing and walked in on the giveaway. Most churches in the area, have something, going on, which is funded by the government and distributed by the churches. Sisters of Mercy, were doing the same thing on Main St. and Bradley Beach, has a location, also. The only location, I see, having a potential problem, is Trinity, where they seem to congregate outside and I didn't know that this is what they were doing. ( I had observed people congregating,) as I drive past on Emory and Asbury Aves. The church on Grand Ave., gives flu shots and food! Had a part-time job there, a few years back and found out by chance. I had no idea, that practically ALL of the churches in this area, has this giveaway. Also found out that the poor go from location to location, collecting, these freebies. Being naive as hell and not in the system, an onlooker, like me, had no clue! Just cruise past 2nd Baptist, on Atkins and Springwood, on a Friday and you'll see. I am a Senior and have no idea, what's available for seniors, as far as recreation, etc. Seems you have to be 80 and above, to join in. Neptune seniors, have everything, while Asbury's Seniors, have nothing! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Isn't this a contradiction of one of the key points to the successful mission victory? Didn't we claim that Asbury does enough already and that bringing in another homeless mission would be adverse to Asbury Park? Maybe, instead of trying to cut down the Trinity Churches charity, we step up patrols in the area and not allow misbehavior. I think that's what Paul's post suggests. Responsibility is a two-way street. You just can't operate something and expect local enforcement to clean up the mess. For instance, if I recall correctly, trinity was not allowing its patrons to use its restroom facilities. Well what alternative did the have? Library Square. That may have been remedied. Then there is security. let trinity provide it. I could go on but won't. I don;t see Paul's post contradicting the position of SUFA. That would ven be if it were decided that soup kitchens should be congregated in particular areas. Do onto to others as you would have them do unto you. I was taught to act in other's homes as I would want them to act in mine. Treat their property as I would want them to treat mine. I doubt very few indeed would allow or want what goes on by some around trinity by their own houses or in their houses. Don't to it to mine then either. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please Help
Dr. Geena; Signed, girl! Hope everyone else does, too! Thank you for letting me know. Surprised Care2, didn't have this petition! Shar --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dr.Geena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: URGENT - IN LESS THAN 48 HOURS CONGRESS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD PROTECTIONS FOR TRANSGENDER WORKERS IN THE FINAL ENDA. TELL REP. Pallone TO SUPPORT THE BALDWIN AMENDMENT! Dear Geena, I need your help in the next 48 hours. Congress will vote Wednesday on H.R. 3685, the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA). Representative Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) plans to offer an amendment to ENDA to add protections based on gender identity. This amendment is crucial! This is our last chance to get gender identity back into the bill. We need your help right away to make sure your representative supports the amendment. We've called and emailed, but now we're sending faxes to show we mean business. Send an automatic fax to Rep. Pallone in support of the Baldwin amendment to ENDA, to make sure gender identity is included in the bill. There is not a moment to spare - this is your last chance to speak out on behalf of each and every member of the GLBT community. Once you've taken action, please forward this message to your friends and family to help us get the word out. This is a historic vote. For the first time ever, the House of Representatives is poised to vote on employment protections for the GLBT community. Help us make sure every member of the GLBT community is included in those protections. Fax your representative to support the Baldwin amendment, before the vote happens, and go to HRC.org to follow ENDA's progress through the House this week! Thank you for all that you do. Warmly, Joe Solmonese President Having trouble clicking on the links above? Simply copy and paste this URL into your browser's address bar to take action today: http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/campaign/enda_baldwin_final Dr. Geena Alessia Buono To Health And Back Chiropractic Wellness Center 710 Cookman Ave. Asbury Park, NJ, 07712 732-361-7252 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is un-winnable
Jack, I can't help but think, that the trashing is done on purpose! Sorry, but you tried your best! Don't know what else to say, but it's like beating a dead horse! The city just ought to care! They don't! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'm going to have to either avoid the park, or somehow figure out how to reprogram my brain. I just went for a dog walk in the park, and yesterdays immaculately cleaned fountain already had somebodies discarded snot rags, cigarette packs, cupcake packages and other assorted crap in and around it. I'm close to giving up. But before I do, I'm working on a meeting on Sunday with people from Trinty Church, so hopefully something good will come of that. Maybe I could convince them that a good incentive for people looking to utilize their charity services would be to equip some of them as volunteers to help clean up the park on a daily basis. Give them some clean up supplies and send them into the park. Maybe it would be good for both the people seeking charitiable help, as well as keeping an otherwise beautiful park clean. Of course, I'm constantly reminded of how Europe deals with their parks and street cleanup. And of course it takes money that we don't have. Anyhow, in most European cities, you will see clean up crews every single night cleaning the streets and parks, and emptying the trash cans. It's almost like what happens at Disney everyday. And from what I've seen from my many years spent overseas, people are less prone to trash their cities, so theres less crap to clean up. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
I don't know this for a fact and maybe someone out there knows, but with technology, the PD, may NOT have to ask, what your name is, due to the fact that caller ID, has been in the mainstream, since the 80's and was known technology at ATT, (experimental), but known, so they already know, that you are a frequent caller, may be seen as a nuisance, to them, but not to us. Authorities, forget, on purpose, how monies are derived to pay them and not necessarily from property taxes. State, local and federal taxes, are probably pooled to pay PD, Fire, etc., especially in AP, where firemen are paid instead of volunteer. Just saying that, to say, when you call in, you are seen as a frequent caller! Perhaps if more of us got involved and called, something, just might be done! Place yourself in their place, keep a diary of how many times a week, day, month, you call. Who knows, they may well be keeping tabs on you! Don't mean to run on, but I worked in Safety and Security, at one time in conjunction, with other managerial duties and I did keep a diary/record, of complaints/concerns. I'm not saying your calls weren't legitimate. You should also follow up with letters to the Mon. Co. Prosecutor/Sheriff, keep copies and retain a lawyer, on retainer, just in case. You may have legal recourse for the City not heeding your calls and JR, if you're reading this, please advise. Oops, forgot this is what you do for a living! Not looking for pro bono advice, but wondering whether we should form a safety coalition group, to show solidarity with Hinge on this issue! I live about 5 blocks from the park, never walk over there, but drive to the library, instead, but still interested in the welfare and safety of those living in proximity. I don't live on the West Side but I'm just as concerned for thier safety as I am for my own! I still drive everywhere from habit of living in the hills of Neptune, where EVERYTHING, was far away! One more thing, there is/was a citizens group, that is supposed to observe, the things that Hinge, keeps us informed on. Why aren't THEY patrolling this area? What is their purpose? I forget what they call themselves and they have an annual lights on march? When a little girl, was murdered, some time ago, a march was held and has been held yearly, in her memory. Her murderer, was never caught! I won't call her name, but if you've lived in AP 15 years or more, you know what I'm talking about. She was African-American and school age. The lack of follow-up, is so telling. It happened before the Louis Jordan era. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. Just think how these county dispatchers could link crimes that are happening outside of Asbury Park to ones happening inside Asbury Park. I.e. The such and such drug gang did so and so in Neptune at 10:30 p.m. and then did such and such in Asbury Park at midnight. I think it would make it much easier to catch the criminals this way. I always find it such a joke that we are in so much of a financial crisis, yet we maintain the fire department and the police departments in a fashion that no other well heeled town with lots of money to waste would even consider doing. Borrowing from Frank: I speak for no one but myself Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: We need a vision - we need a uniter
My eyes filled up, when I read your thoughtful reply. I'm sure many more, who feel as you and I do, could make a difference. Does anyone care what we think? Some do and some passionately do. None of us are divided on the quality of life issues, decent education, or safe and clean streets. Affordable housing, is hard to come by, everywhere and monies devoted to but hardly ever materializes and living wages are everywhere, but here! Asbury Works, did a helluva job, but can't do anything without sufficient grants! So, ever the skeptic; Where do we go from here? Do we need more police? If so, can the City ask for state funds? If not, why not? Are we to remain the whipping boy, for the State/County? How in the world, can we shed the image, when we still have problems emanating, from 1970, which were never addressed? Not asking you personally; just asking, is all. It's been 37 years, since the riot. The Mayor was just a kid, himself, when it occurred. He didn't create the abyss, this city is in and I don't expect him to solve these problems, by himself! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, I do agree that the Mayor appears to be a good man with good intentions. That said I don't know that any of our current council members have the ability to develop and lead this city in a way that is clearly needed. We need a strong voice who can develop a real vision for tackling problems and transforming the city while uniting the city around that vision. From some of our council I've never seen a real vision, just individiual pet projects and initiatives. From others I've seen vision, but coupled with a divisive approach that prevents anything from getting done. That doesn't make them bad people or bad intentioned, just not necessarily the right people to get us past where we are at this point in time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Living in a virtual world - the value of forums
Jack, Are you serious? I've said and so has others, that the Mayor, was born and raised here, educated here, is a veteran, having served honorably, is known by his peers, highly respected by the same and while having a message, still only has one vote! It sometimes appears that he is not outspoken, but he fervently works behind the scenes, is a child advocate, husband and father. He was the highest vote getter, making him the choice for Mayor, while the Deputy Mayor, Mr. Bruno, also born and raised here, a bit more assertive and aggressive than Mr. Sanders, made for two native born, home grown officials, in AP. You can't get more qualified than that! My opinion. I believe in my heart that they and the other three men, want a better Asbury Park. That said, we don't always agree on how to get it. I don't know where Mr. Johnson was born or James Keady, but they are legitimate residents, as well. Mr. Loffredo is/was from Neptune, but has been a resident of AP, for some time and is a homeowner. I highly respect him, personally. I don't always agree, with any of them, but I have been misinformed about issues also. What I'm saying is, I give them the benefit of the doubt. I can be wrong too! Sometimes, I think, we are a bit harsh on them, but it is believed that in all politics, those in power, sometimes feel, that their constituents, don't NEED or HAVE to know, everything! I say, the more OPEN government is, the less suspicious/secretive, or name calling, as in almost any adjective, the people you serve, are less likely to accuse! I am as guilty as anyone, when what we perceive as a bad decision; name some here_, are made and its' decided the less we know, the better! Voters are more likely to ask for a recall, special election, investigations, get the prosecutor or FBI involved. Some of the more rogueish incidents of late, were the surrounding of a residents home, from anonymous tips, the fear generated, when a representative of the FCC, sucessfully shut down a radio show, the false arrest of a citizen and incarceration, intending on shutting him up, permenantly, the repeated requests for surveillance of a public square, which should be one of the centerpieces in town, only to see the area, abused over and over, but have funds for a horse patrol; impressive, but of no use! Now that I've spoken my piece, my a$$, is probably grass, for using my right of the 1st amendment! Now, I'll probably NEVER get my 40 acres, or that mule! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for picking on the mayor, tell me this. Has he ever given a press conference after a murder? Is he well known to ALL the citizens of our city? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: So, in virtual AP, what characters do you think we would all play? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Can the city be run by a forum or a combination Could a forum, by city residents (and outsiders...) runa real city? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
