[newbie-it] floppy

2003-07-19 Per discussione piter
ciao, ML
ho fatto casino con il kernel, praticamente mi sono ritrovato floppy, l'icona
sul desktop non cè più e dando il comando da shell mi dice questo:

$ mount /mnt/floppy
mount: impossibile trovare /mnt/floppy in /etc/fstab o /etc/mtab

anche da root è lo stesso.

questo è quanto ho trovato nel file fstab:

/dev/hda1 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
//pcomp/D /mnt/D smbfs username=% 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0
0 0
/dev/hda6 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0
0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0

effettivamente non vedo tracce del floppy.
gia che ci siamo come posso modificarlo per evitare il supermount?

grazie a tutti,
ciao,
Piter.






[newbie-it] sendmail envelope_from

2003-07-19 Per discussione Giuseppe Ferruzzi
Rieccomi qui syd, ho ripreso la configurazione di sendmail dopo che la 
telecom finalmente ha sostituito la linea telefonica aerea guastata. 

Dopo varie prove con l'ausilio delle tue informazioni riguardo alla 
ultima versione di sendmail, mi sembra di aver risolto l'errore causato 
dal comando -f passato a sendmail (questa mail a newbie vuole essere anche 
una prova di conferma a questo, verifica i miei headers), ma ho dovuto 
togliere da .muttrc il comando envelope_from perchè mutt non inviava più 
la posta al mio ISP con l'errore di troppi from per una persona. 
Sono arrivato a capire questo per deduzione in quanto utilizzando mail da 
riga di comando, sendmail invece la inviava. 
Leggendo allora il man muttrc è specificato che envelope_from non deve essere 
utilizzato in concomitanza al comando -f di sendmail. 
Envelope_from l'ho inserito nel mio .muttrc perchè era specificato nel tuo 
file di configurazione, come mai a te non da questi problemi ?

Ciao, Giuseppe.

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Re: [newbie-it] ifup e ifdown solo da root?

2003-07-19 Per discussione biss
Il sab, 2003-07-19 alle 00:10, kua79 ha scritto:


 Prova a fare questa verifica, vai su...
 Impostazioni di sistema -- Rete (Se non sei Root ti chiederà la Pass)

Scusa ma non trovo il percorso che dici. Impostazioni di sistema
sarebbe Centro di controllo mandrake?
Ho cercato sui centri di controllo di  kde e gnome (che non conosco
molto bene) ma non trovo nulla che mi permetta le operazioni che dici.
 
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Re: [newbie-it] ifup e ifdown solo da root?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Giuseppe Ferruzzi
* biss ha scritto:
 Il sab, 2003-07-19 alle 00:10, kua79 ha scritto:
 
 
  Prova a fare questa verifica, vai su...
  Impostazioni di sistema -- Rete (Se non sei Root ti chiederà la Pass)
 
 Scusa ma non trovo il percorso che dici. Impostazioni di sistema
 sarebbe Centro di controllo mandrake?
 Ho cercato sui centri di controllo di  kde e gnome (che non conosco
 molto bene) ma non trovo nulla che mi permetta le operazioni che dici.
  
  biss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Penso che Davide abbia azzeccato il problema, ovviamente lui usa
come me RH e non Mdk, comunque se sei un po avvezzo alla riga di comando
potrai evitare di  perderti tra le finestre del tuo wm, devi solo modificare 
il file di configurazione ifcfg-ppp0 che in RH si trova in 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. 
In questa directory apri ifcfg-ppp0 con un editor come pico con i diritti di 
root:
# pico ifcfg.ppp0
modifica o aggiungi la seguente riga USERCTL=yes
Ripristina gli eventuali diritti dei file se li hai cambiati con quelli di 
default perchè non hai bisogno di essere root per avviare ifup e ifdown
almeno non con RH (considera che gli script ifup e ifdown in RH sono presenti 
in etc/sysconfig/netwrk-scripts come link simbolico a /sbin/ifup e /sbin/ifdown
con diritti 755 ossia possono essere solo letti ed eseguiti se non si è root
ma questo basta per connettere e disconnettere se non si è root mentre per
ifcfg-ppp0 i diritti sono 644 ossia il dispositivo ppp0 è reso disponibile
a tutti gli user del tuo sistema locale).
Una volta che il tutto funziona puoi evitare di specificare la relativa path se 
la aggiungi in .bash-profile. Allora è sufficiente scrivere da shell solo 
ifup ppp0 o ifdown ppp0 per connettere e disconnettere il tuo ISP. 
Potrai semplificare ancora  creandoti inoltre due alias a questi comandi da 
inserire all'inizio in .bashrc.
Quindi per connettere da shell pigiando solo il tasto 
$ u invio 
dovrai aggiungere in .bashrc la seguente riga:
alias u=ifup ppp0 
mentre per disconnettere: 
$ d invio 
dovrai aggiungere:
alias d=ifdown ppp0

Ciao, Giuseppe.

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Re: [newbie] Creating a directory

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
  That didn't work for me.  I did figure it out by doing:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] todd]$ datedir=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] todd]$ echo tomcat$datedir
 tomcat20030718215657
 
 You are using the backticks (the shift+tilde) and not the single
 quote? Using bash?

Works here, too.  (on my keyboard, though, no shift, just the (` or ~)
key

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Re: [newbie] sending mail to the list

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
This is weird: i used to see that same error, and others did too, so i
just made a filter to delete it.  Since then though, i switched to
sylpheed and only made filters as needed.  Now i realize that i no
longer get that error.

I wonder if someone has a spam filter running that bounces mail back
until (s)he or the filter determines it's not spam?

Anyway, you oughtta be able to just send it to trash with a filter and
be fine...

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:52:48 -0400
crak600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 do i not have something set right or is there something wrong with the
 server?  every time i send mail to the list i get a reply with 'NDN'
 before the subject line.  it's returned from 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and the body contains 
 
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:42 am, you wrote:
  Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
 
  linux-mandrake newbie,emc (The name was not found at the remote
  site. Check that the name has been entered correctly.)
 
 but my messages are getting through to the list.  since formatting /
 and re-installing last night, i'm wondering if maybe i didn't set
 something up right in kmail or if there is just a server problem. 
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Re: [newbie] URPMI Possible BUG in M9.1 ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
This doesn't really solve the cd problem, but if rpm is the only thing
having trouble with it, and you have a high speed connection, you can go
here

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php

and add a 'main' source.

Then you'll never have to do the Dance Of the CD rpms again...

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Inhabitant of Zion

 The ideas isn't to throw ALL kaazaa users in jail!  What they actually
plan to 
 do is to prosecute a FEW sharers and jail them (plus fine them into the 
 poorhouse) as examples for all the rest.
 

Errr I don't know if my memory serves me right but didn't one of the movie
companies successfully get a conviction on a couple of students who were
caught sharing a film on p2p recently?

Didn't seem to have much effect. 

John

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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote:
 what would be the best system that one could put together for under
 $1,000.00 USD
 Rules of the game
 1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI
 2 It has to run Mandraike :

How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC, and 
speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you:

$163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB   
$146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb  
$84.00  Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by 
Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.
$176.00 Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM
$31.00  Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD
$45.00  Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW
$158.00 Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP  
$82.00  Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1

$885.00 Total   

You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote.

I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card on 
the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end dream 
system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let me buy 
it.

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Re: [newbie] web site displays source instead of HTML

2003-07-19 Per discussione Graham Watkins
Curt Tresenriter wrote:
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:28, Graham Watkins wrote:

Curt Tresenriter wrote:

I'm trying to access a web site - an audio archive - but it's only
displaying the code.
Konq, Galeon,Opera - doesn't matter.
I would have suspected the web site itself, but for other folks on the
list it is displaying properly , links are accessible etc. So it must be
hereright?
What could it be?
thanks,
Curt
Give us the URL then we can all have a look - might be able to give you 
an opinion that's worth something then.
Here it is:

http://www.angelfire.com/or2/awakingdream/realNeville


Hmm, most curious.  Opened it in Mozilla and all I got was text - at 
first glance, the html seemed to be all over the place and it made me 
wonder if it was due to it's being a poorly written page - two html 
and body tags for a start.

Saved it to my 'puter and then opened it using Konqueror and it 
displayed as a web page. The link to the rainforest page worked though 
the rm file (some kind of audio format that realplayer doesn't 
recognise?) links didn't.

Someone on this thread mentioned that it displayed in IE6 yet I don't 
see any alien code that might appear had it been written with Word or 
Frontpage.

You could e-mail the site to tell them that there's something wrong with 
the page (and if it isn't browser platform independent then there *is* 
something wrong with it) or if you are a web designer with spare time on 
your hands, you could offer to rewrite the page for them.  Then again 
you could take the easy way out and view it using Konqueror.

Hope this helps (though I can't see how).

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RE: [newbie] web site displays source instead of HTML

2003-07-19 Per discussione Frankie
Nope:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] postfix]# cat /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf |
grep DefaultType
# DefaultType is the default MIME type the server will use
for a document
DefaultType text/plain


Sames as yours.

regards

Franki

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd
Slater
Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2003 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] web site displays source instead of
HTML


Frankie,

This is getting interesting because the link you provided
wrapped in my
mail so I didn't get the .txt extension; however, dillo
opened it up
as if it were HTML. Only after adding the .txt did dillo
display the
source. Same with firebird.

I found in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf (line 121):

# DefaultType is the default MIME type the server will use
for a document
# if it cannot otherwise determine one, such as from
filename extensions.
# If your server contains mostly text or HTML documents,
text/plain is
# a good value.  If most of your content is binary, such as
applications
# or images, you may want to use application/octet-stream
instead to
# keep browsers from trying to display binary files as
though they are
# text.
#
DefaultType text/plain

Is what I have; I wonder if yours has text/html?

Todd



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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Paul
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:57, manolis wrote:
 Adobe Acrobat can also edit pdf files.
 
 As far as I know Xpdf and ghostview are just pdf viewers like acrobat reader.
 
 koppermind
 
 

As I understand it, pdf files are regarded as more secure for archiving,
etc. as they can't (readily)be edited. Once converted to pdf they stay
that way.

However, you could probably use something like gocr to convert to text 
then edit, before converting back with ghostscript or kword. Graphics
would be a problem though.

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Friday 18 Jul 2003 10:05 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Are there any good ways of working (heavily)  with Adobe
 Acrobat in Linux?

Bob - I'm not a heavy user of Acrobat, but I have installed the full 
Acrobat 4.0 under Win4Lin, and it appears to be working well.  I 
opened one existing file and imported a picture, and then opened a 
.pdf which I had created with Serif PagePlus 8+PDF and highlighted 
areas of text.  The files save OK.  If you want me to do anything in 
particular to test it for you please mail me off-list.

BTW - I am using the PagePlus as a combination DTP and pdf creator for 
Parish Magazines.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] web site displays source instead of HTML

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Friday 18 Jul 2003 10:37 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Just add .htm  (no quotes) and you get the page.

Out of curiosity, I did, but I only got 'the URL is not valid and 
cannot be loaded'.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Compact flash disk reader.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 12:14 am, manolis wrote:
 Anyway...
 Although I didn't figured out what is going on I also want to ask
 related to the this problem:
 Any time that I plug in my USB reader it gets another name in the
 /dev tree for example the first time I pluged it in I get: /dev/sda
 when I unplugged it and replug it again I get : /dev/sdb  etc...
 etc...
 I think this is related to my problem...
 How can I remove the faulty /dev/..   links?
 This doesn't happen with my USB flash thumb drive that automounts
 fine , and every time I plug it in I get: /dev/sdb1

 Please Help..!!

Hi, Manolis.  I think that when you use more than one removable device 
the system sometimes gets confused.  I have a similar problem.  When 
it happens to me I just open up the MCC, Hardware List.  It should 
re-detect the device and mount it correctly.

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione aron smith
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:42, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:57, manolis wrote:
  Adobe Acrobat can also edit pdf files.
  
  As far as I know Xpdf and ghostview are just pdf viewers like acrobat reader.
  
  koppermind
  
  
 
 As I understand it, pdf files are regarded as more secure for archiving,
 etc. as they can't (readily)be edited. Once converted to pdf they stay
 that way.
 
 However, you could probably use something like gocr to convert to text 
 then edit, before converting back with ghostscript or kword. Graphics
 would be a problem though.
 
 Paul M.
Could be right never tried it with graphics
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:38 am, David E Fox wrote:

 I'm really new at this, by the way. I have managed to coaster
 two CD-Rs so far, and burned OK twice on one verbatim CDRW. Maybe
 the media make all the difference? $15 for 100 cdrs is a good
 price, but not for 100 coasters (god I hope not) :(. But then
 again, back when floppies were all the rage, getting one or two
 unformattable floppies in a box of ten was a fairly common
 occurence.

The media does make a difference.  In general cheaper media need to be 
burned slower, and preferably not packed full.  I would not use 
faster than 8x, and some suggest that 4x is needed.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] more supermount stuff

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 12:11 am, Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi,
   I finally took the plunge and installed 9.1. I really like the new
 look and it seems to function flawlessly..except.
 In Konq (or any app) whenever I try to access /mnt , it freezes and
 has to be killed. I checked my fstab and found that there are 2
 entries for a single floppy drive. This is my laptop and I replaced
 the floppy with a cdrw. 9.1 picked that up nicely. So, I commented
 out the floppy line and the only result I got was, the cdrom icons
 disappeared off the desktop. I removed my change and I'm back to
 the packaged fstab.
   Checking the archives, there doesn't seem to be much on supermount
 or fstab since 9.1 was released. Here is my fstabperhaps some
 may have suggestions.

 /dev/hda6 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 none /mnt/cdrom supermount
 dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0
 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=
0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount
 dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask
=0 0 0 #none /mnt/floppy supermount
 dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask
=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat
 iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc
 defaults 0 0
 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0

 I really like the supermount, so I would like to hang on to it if
 possible.

Supermount has always worked well on this system.  Here are my 
cd/dvd/fd0 lines for you to compare:

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/cdrw supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 
0

As you see, they are almost identical to yours, though they each 
contain 'user'

This may be heresy, but I have a gut feeling that fstab doesn't like 
commented out lines.  I had problems in the past with a similar 
situation and I know others who have.  Why not save a copy to 
fstab.sav then delete the duplicate line?  Can't do any harm, and may 
just help.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione aron smith
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote:
  what would be the best system that one could put together for under
  $1,000.00 USD
  Rules of the game
  1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI
  2 It has to run Mandraike :
 
 How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC, and 
 speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you:
 
 $163.00   AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB   
 $146.00   2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb  
 $84.00Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by
  
 Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.  
 $176.00   Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM
 $31.00Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD
 $45.00Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW
 $158.00   Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP  
 $82.00Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1
   
 $885.00   Total   
 
 You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote.
 
 I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card on 
 the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end dream 
 system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let me buy 
 it.
 
 Rob
Rocks Alternatevly go the other way how cheap can you go? We have to use
the advantages that we have
   


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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione aron smith
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:35, Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 
  The ideas isn't to throw ALL kaazaa users in jail!  What they actually
 plan to 
  do is to prosecute a FEW sharers and jail them (plus fine them into the 
  poorhouse) as examples for all the rest.
  
 
 Errr I don't know if my memory serves me right but didn't one of the movie
 companies successfully get a conviction on a couple of students who were
 caught sharing a film on p2p recently?
 
 Didn't seem to have much effect. 
 
 John
The case was settled out of court the university paid off an undisclosed
sum (cowards)


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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione aron smith
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:07, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 02:08, aron smith wrote:
  what would be the best system that one could put together for under
  $1,000.00 USD
  Rules of the game
  1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI
  2 It has to run Mandraike :
 
 What about a nice surplus iMac?
Welll if thats your dream (Imac sounds more like a nightmare to meG



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Re: [newbie] more supermount stuff

2003-07-19 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Bill Winegarden wrote:

Hi,
	
In Konq (or any app) whenever I try to access /mnt , it freezes and has to be 
killed. I checked my fstab and found that there are 2 entries for a single 
floppy drive. This is my laptop and I replaced the floppy with a cdrw. 9.1 
picked that up nicely. 

So you don't have a Floppy at all ?
Or you did have two floppy drives, and now you have one ?
	Checking the archives, there doesn't seem to be much on supermount or fstab 
since 9.1 was released. Here is my fstabperhaps some may have 
suggestions.

none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount 
dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
I really like the supermount, so I would like to hang on to it if possible.

Bill W.

 

Supermount is very much a work in progress, not much is written up yet.
I have never owned a laptop, so experiece with their ide layout is 
unfamiliar to me.

So then, what is the ide layout ?
Ide0 = Hardrive(s)
Ide1 = cdrom and writer , master and slave in that order ?
Or is it,
Ide0 = harddrive and writer,  configured mater and slave ?
Assuming the first layout,

Harddrive = /dev/hda

cdrom = /dev/hdc
writer  = /dev/hdb   but is it scsi-emulated in /etc/lilo.conf as 
hdd=ide-scsi ?

so, under  supermount , cdrom and writer fstab entries look to be correct..

The floppy entry looks correct, if you still have one.

If it doesn't work then maybe it's a hardware related issue.
first try, cdrecord -scanbus to make sure it's on the bus.
Then there are further commands to issue to test the capability of the 
drives, but I cannot rememebr what they are. Maybe Tom Brinkman can jog 
our memories.

John



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Re: [newbie] Chris, Charlie, John, and G - CD-RW drive help

2003-07-19 Per discussione John Richard Smith
g wrote:



crak600 wrote:
 sorry to post this to the list to get the 4 of you, but i can't seem 
to access

i still would like to set you '/etc/lilo.conf' and '/etc/fstab' files.

problems that you stated before are still unclear and above files will
shed light on just how you are set up as for automount or supermount.
peace out.

tc,hago.

g

Here is my lilo.conf

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.13mdk
  label=91-2.4.21.0
   root=/dev/hda7
   initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img
   append= quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi acpi=on
   #append= quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
   vga=791
   read-only
The # line is as how M9.1 created it, but I want both dvd and writer 
scsi-emulated

Here is my fstab
Under automount, works fine.
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0

As per M9.1 installer supermount, except I changed /dev/hdc to /dev/scd0 
to reflect scsi-em.
#none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
#none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,rw,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0

As per supermount suggestion here on list
#none /mnt/cdrom 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
#none /mnt/cdrom2 
dev=/dev/scd1,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0

Of course I   #,  and un # , each set of entries and run mount -a to 
remount them in each trial case.

neither of the two supermounts  work well, true you can use the command 
line, but that is about all.
There are no properties entries in desktop Icons for each device to 
access media that way.

In addition many apps, including xcdroast, work badly with these 
supermounts.
When I click on xcdroast it takes an eon to load the app to screen.
Reading media from dvd and write takes far too long,
The read process is slow , much slower than the natural speed of the drives.

In short , noone would want to use supermount under these conditions.

The only other thought that just may possibly have a bearing here is 
that I do have both a camera and a smart card reader that  appears on 
the bus, when connected, and always sends all devices connected to the 
bus , ie dvd,writer, camera and smartcard reader to go walkies around 
the bus, ending on different addresses on each bootup occassion, so that 
when I use an app like xcdroast , or cdrecord I have to reset the device 
setting every time I load it.
I don't think this is relevant to the supermount question, but I mention 
it just the same, as I suspect the whole question of how the system 
allocates addresses to the bus for each and every device is still a 
matter for refinement. Yes,  it is another issue ,but a related issue 
and requires attention.

John

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Re: [newbie] URPMI Possible BUG in M9.1 ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione John Richard Smith
Albert Charron wrote:

I got exactly the same problem when I set my CD-rom to scsi 
emulation.  I'm also running MDK9.1.

I solve the problem so I think it could help if I post the way I 
solved it.

1- from package source manager, remove ALL entries 
OK

2- delete ALL the content of /var/lib/urpmi 
Do you mean all these
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /var/lib/urpmi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] urpmi]# ls
compssUsers.flat   synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 1 
(x86).cz
hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86).cz  synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 2 
(x86).cz
hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86).cz  synthesis.hdlist.International CD 
(x86).cz
hdlist.International CD (x86).cz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] urpmi]#

Including , compssUsers.flat  ?
I guess the rest are what you would be doing in 1- above,  though.
3- be sure your fstab is correct (I mean, your writer and dvd are 
mounting in the proper directory) 
I'm sure mine are

4- put CD1 into the drive you want to use as URPMI source 
OK

5- mount your cdrom (mount /mnt/cdrom)
yep that's the key to it , you have to speciffically mount the dvd, as,
mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom first , then below.
5- from a terminal, use the command urpmi.addmedia -f --distrib 
removable://mnt/cdrom

then, happy URPMI :)

Because you removed all entries from package source manager, next time 
you'll run MandrakeUpdate, you'll have to choose a source (like you 
did the first time).

Hope this will solve your issue like it solved mine!

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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 19:51, aron smith wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:07, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 02:08, aron smith wrote:
   what would be the best system that one could put together for under
   $1,000.00 USD
   Rules of the game
   1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI
   2 It has to run Mandraike :
  
  What about a nice surplus iMac?
 Welll if thats your dream (Imac sounds more like a nightmare to meG

You'd be surprised at these little boxes; you can upgrade the video RAM
on them (it's an ATI Rage card - just slap 32mb RAM in it) and then pack
in 512mb of RAM, they take a standard EIDE hard drive (and CDROM); so
sticking an 80gb in there ain't bad (done it for a customer before) -
and the PPC MDK 9.1 - mate, you'd be swinging bigtime! Instead of using
the crappy little one-button mouse, just stick a hot little Logitech or
MS Intellimouse on there and voila! Nice little workstation...

...that is, IF you can find one at an auction or one that fell off the
back of a truck...

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[newbie] LAN problem

2003-07-19 Per discussione Paul Kaplan
I changed the configuration of my home network and now am having problems 
seeing the machines from each other.

Formerly, I shared an internet connection from one machine and had a switch to 
connect the local machines.  The ethernet card on the internal network had a 
fixed IP address as did all the local machines.  The local machines used a 
gateway IP address and a fixed DNS server address (from the ISP).  I used 
Samba and was able to see all the local machines from the linux box (LM9.1).  
On the Windows side (W2k), the samba shares appeared in Network Neighborhood.

Now I have a router on the network which dynamically assigns IP address to the 
LAN and all the machines are set to DHCP.  Initially I made no changes to my 
Samba setup other than to update the IP addresses of the LAN machines in 
/etc/samba/lmhosts).  I can no longer see the LAN machines from my Linux box 
(although I can ping them all by IP address or name).  From the Windows side, 
although I can find my samba shares by search for computer and subsequently 
force a virtual drive mapping, I can no longer see the machines under network 
neighborhood, nor can I manually create a virtual drive map under connect 
network drive.

I'd like to be able to get at my winboxes from the lin box, and understand the 
win weirdness.

Any ideas what the problem is and how to fix it?

TIA
Paul

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Re: [newbie] LAN problem

2003-07-19 Per discussione Lanman
Paul; If your router is handing off DHCP addresses, and your PC's are using their 
lmhosts file to find each other, you'll run into problems every time the router hands 
out new IP addresses. Try logging into the router and disabling the DHCP service, or 
use IP adresses that are outside of the range of IP's that your DHCP service has 
reserved. Then update your lmhosts file, and restart or renew your IP addresses on 
each Windows box.

Lanman

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On 7/19/2003 at 7:09 AM Paul Kaplan wrote:

I changed the configuration of my home network and now am having problems
seeing the machines from each other.

Formerly, I shared an internet connection from one machine and had a
switch to
connect the local machines.  The ethernet card on the internal network had
a
fixed IP address as did all the local machines.  The local machines used a
gateway IP address and a fixed DNS server address (from the ISP).  I used
Samba and was able to see all the local machines from the linux box
(LM9.1).
On the Windows side (W2k), the samba shares appeared in Network
Neighborhood.

Now I have a router on the network which dynamically assigns IP address to
the
LAN and all the machines are set to DHCP.  Initially I made no changes to
my
Samba setup other than to update the IP addresses of the LAN machines in
/etc/samba/lmhosts).  I can no longer see the LAN machines from my Linux
box
(although I can ping them all by IP address or name).  From the Windows
side,
although I can find my samba shares by search for computer and
subsequently
force a virtual drive mapping, I can no longer see the machines under
network
neighborhood, nor can I manually create a virtual drive map under connect
network drive.

I'd like to be able to get at my winboxes from the lin box, and understand
the
win weirdness.

Any ideas what the problem is and how to fix it?

TIA
Paul


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Re: [newbie] aiuto !!

2003-07-19 Per discussione Douglas Bainbridge
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 14:07, JoeHill wrote:
Meglio di tutto, cominciate da principio, accendete la macchina col
disco Mandrake 9.1 'Instal CD1' gia montato. Poi seguite gli istruzioni
dell'installazione Easy Instal - deve andare bene tutto senza
difficolta ed il Windows 98 deve rimanere accessibile come prima.

Una cosa importante! - la divisione del HD (il 'partitioning').
Scegliete keep existing partitions, poi permettete il 'formatting' di
/, di /boot e di /var(se li avete) ma *NON* /home. Cosi dovete poter
rimpiazzare il tutto del Mandrake 8.2, ritenendo solamente i documenti
personali intoccati. Puo darsi che dopo ci siano piccole difficolta,
qualche programma non funzionera perfettamente perche la sua
configurazione sara cambiata, ma queste saranno piccolezze da risolvere
piu tardi.

Il Joe si scusa per le barzellette delle prime risposte,e vi prega di
scrivere ancora nel caso che incontrate nuovi problemi.

Ciao,

DougB

 
 Your best bet is to boot your computer from the Mandrake 9.1 install CD
 and follow the easy install process, really. It's *should* be that
 simple. Mandrake, as you may have discovered when you installed 8.2,
 will not hurt your 98 install, and in fact will coexist quite
 peacefully.
 
 One thing to take into account is the partitioning. At that stage of the
 9.1 install I would suggest choosing keep existing partitions, then
 format *only* the system partition(s), *not* your /home partition, that
 way all your personal documents in your /home will be left untouched.
 There may be some minor issues with config files in your home dir being
 incompatible with newer software, but those issues can be easily dealt
 with and will not hurt your system in any way.
 
 I hope you did not take our bit of fun as mocking *you*, it was just us
 being goofy, and we really hope you will write back soon if you need any
 more assistance.
 
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Re: [newbie] Recommended A4 Scanners for MDK91?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Douglas Bainbridge
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 11:25, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 18 Jul 2003 10:50 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote:

   John
 
  Also Epson Perfection 1240U
 
  DougB
 
 I know I'm nagging, but PLEASE add it to the TWiki page
 
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=HardwareCompatibility
 
 It's in everyone's interest to build a good database
 
 Anne
 
 
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Re: [newbie] aiuto !!

2003-07-19 Per discussione Douglas Bainbridge
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 14:07, JoeHill wrote:
 On 18 Jul 2003 10:49:30 +0100
 Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
snip
 
 I did post a brief outline below, it should at least get him started.
 
snip

It would have helped if I'd read your reply properly. Covered with
confusion and apologies!!!

Many thanks,
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[newbie] Still no KdeprintFax

2003-07-19 Per discussione owenb
After following several suggestions to activate the fax feature of 
Open Office. It still doens't work.  After the initial disk 
installation I installed all the updates associated with the 9.1 prior 
to trying to utalize the KdeprintFax.  I don't know if this introduced 
problems or not.  Now I'm wondering if I should reinstall 9.1?   Would 
I have to start by reformating the HD partition?  Any suggestions I 
just want to be able to fax from Open Office. I don't care if it is 
KdeprintFax, Efax or any other software as long as it works.


I did follow Derek's suggestion below and it did get faxing to work 
from Kword but not Open Office.

Derek Jennings wrote:

If you are using KDE and CUPS then when you print a dialogue box 
appears. The  drop down 'Name' selects the printer to use.
Underneath your real printers there are four 'pseudo' printers :-

Mail PDF File
Print to File (PDF)
Print to File (Postscript)
Send to Fax   (not Print to fax)
If they are not there then it is easy enough to add them.
Open KDE ControlCentrePeripheralsPrinters
Select Administrator mode.
Right click in the white area, select 'Add special (pseudo) printer'
In the pop up configuration box give it a name and in the 'Command 
Settings' box enter kdeprintfax %in

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[newbie] how do i setup mandrake to read my shared folder in win2k ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione arosene
I can't get a folder or listing for anything in linneighborhood for my
win2k box.  i have shared 2 folders and setup the domain for the internal
network.  i have recently installed iptables and ipkungfu and am wondering
if a specific port needs to be opened for linneighborhood to see it.  if
not i'm without a clue how to get it working'  i've googled it and didnt'
come up with any answers.  this worked fine under winxp.




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Re: [newbie] Still no KdeprintFax

2003-07-19 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 1:55 pm, owenb wrote:
  After following several suggestions to activate the fax feature of
  Open Office. It still doens't work.  After the initial disk
  installation I installed all the updates associated with the 9.1 prior
  to trying to utalize the KdeprintFax.  I don't know if this introduced
  problems or not.  Now I'm wondering if I should reinstall 9.1?   Would
  I have to start by reformating the HD partition?  Any suggestions I
  just want to be able to fax from Open Office. I don't care if it is
  KdeprintFax, Efax or any other software as long as it works.
 
 
  I did follow Derek's suggestion below and it did get faxing to work
  from Kword but not Open Office.
 
  Derek Jennings wrote:
  If you are using KDE and CUPS then when you print a dialogue box
  appears. The  drop down 'Name' selects the printer to use.
  Underneath your real printers there are four 'pseudo' printers :-
 
  Mail PDF File
  Print to File (PDF)
  Print to File (Postscript)
  Send to Fax   (not Print to fax)
 
  If they are not there then it is easy enough to add them.
  Open KDE ControlCentrePeripheralsPrinters
  Select Administrator mode.
 
  Right click in the white area, select 'Add special (pseudo) printer'
  In the pop up configuration box give it a name and in the 'Command
  Settings' box enter kdeprintfax %in
 
  derek

And did you follow my instructions here
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fax_cups.html to add qtcups as a printer to 
OpenOffice?  If you do that, then when you print with OpenOffice qtcups will 
appear as one of the printers available, and that leads you into exactly the 
same printer dialogue as Kword.

Reinstalling or reformatting will not help. It is just a matter of defining 
qtcups as an OpenOffice printer.

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Re: [newbie] how do i setup mandrake to read my shared folder inwin2k ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 22:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't get a folder or listing for anything in linneighborhood for my
 win2k box.  i have shared 2 folders and setup the domain for the internal
 network.  i have recently installed iptables and ipkungfu and am wondering
 if a specific port needs to be opened for linneighborhood to see it.  if
 not i'm without a clue how to get it working'  i've googled it and didnt'
 come up with any answers.  this worked fine under winxp.

Ports 137, 138 and 139 need to be opened up; as well, in the settings
for SAMBA (/etc/samba/smb.conf) you SHOULD have the same workgroup name;
and double check your settings for LinNeighborhood.

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Re: [newbie] Creating a directory

2003-07-19 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:59:53 -0700
Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   That didn't work for me.  I did figure it out by doing:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] todd]$ datedir=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`;
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] todd]$ echo tomcat$datedir
  tomcat20030718215657
  
  You are using the backticks (the shift+tilde) and not the single
  quote? Using bash?
 
 Works here, too.  (on my keyboard, though, no shift, just the (` or ~)
 key

Yeah, here too :) The tilde requires a shift, not the backtick.

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Bob Read
Anne, thanks for your detailed response.  My concern is for a
friend of ours who runs a (very successful) one-woman advertising
business.  She is fed up with the, inherent problems with XP, 2000
etc.  And is just digging out from her second virus problem this
year.  She is now ready to consider Linux, and I want to have as many
answers ready for her as possible.
(I'm hoping to find someone in the Rhode Island area who has
the expertise to make this happen smoothly.)
Again, thank you,
Bob
Anne Wilson wrote:
(snip)
Bob - I'm not a heavy user of Acrobat, but I have installed the full 
Acrobat 4.0 under Win4Lin, and it appears to be working well.  I 
opened one existing file and imported a picture, and then opened a 
.pdf which I had created with Serif PagePlus 8+PDF and highlighted 
areas of text.  The files save OK.  If you want me to do anything in 
particular to test it for you please mail me off-list.

BTW - I am using the PagePlus as a combination DTP and pdf creator for 
Parish Magazines.

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Re: [newbie] how do i setup mandrake to read my shared folder in win2k ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione arosene
i did all those things and still nothing coming up in linneighborhood.  it
is showing localhost with a penguin and nothing more.  and workgroup, not
domain, was what i setup in win2k pro.  i'd hate to not be able to get
this to work.

thank you




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 I can't get a folder or listing for anything in linneighborhood for my
 win2k box.  i have shared 2 folders and setup the domain for the
 internal network.  i have recently installed iptables and ipkungfu and
 am wondering if a specific port needs to be opened for linneighborhood
 to see it.  if not i'm without a clue how to get it working'  i've
 googled it and didnt' come up with any answers.  this worked fine
 under winxp.

 Ports 137, 138 and 139 need to be opened up; as well, in the settings
 for SAMBA (/etc/samba/smb.conf) you SHOULD have the same workgroup name;
 and double check your settings for LinNeighborhood.

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 2:22 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Anne, thanks for your detailed response.  My concern is for a
 friend of ours who runs a (very successful) one-woman advertising
 business.  She is fed up with the, inherent problems with XP, 2000
 etc.  And is just digging out from her second virus problem this
 year.  She is now ready to consider Linux, and I want to have as
 many answers ready for her as possible.

 (I'm hoping to find someone in the Rhode Island area who has
 the expertise to make this happen smoothly.)

 Again, thank you,
 Bob

Win4Lin requires a windows licence and install disks, and you are 
running a virtual machine under linux.  All peripherals are 
controlled by the linux drivers, so if it works with linux it works 
for win4lin.  I run windows98, and it's well-nigh crash-proof! 
Win4Lin is not free, but it's not expensive, and NeTraverse have an 
excellent support team - I have even had a response on Sunday 
evening.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione aron smith
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 07:46, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:01 am, JoeHill wrote:
  On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:31:09 +0100
 
  Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   You guys should really read this its outragious - if its true!
 
  and guess who started all this shite...
 
  no, take a wild guess...
 
  ok, here:
 
  http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/open-letter-to-hobbyists.html
 
  :)
 
 Wow, APL! I'd forgotten all about that one. I never learned the language 
 myself, but I had a buddy that did. It turned him into a genuine fanatic -- 
 worse than the Hare Krishna kids in airports. It also made a lot of money for 
 him developing software for programming NC machines that would run on the 
 original IBM 5100 desktop computer (circa 1975). He's still doing that part 
 time.
 -- cmg
BTW does anyone know of a linux program that can output G codes
generated from a .DFX or .DWG file ?
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:01 am, JoeHill wrote:
  On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:31:09 +0100
 
  Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   You guys should really read this its outragious - if its true!
 
  and guess who started all this shite...
 
  no, take a wild guess...
 
  ok, here:
 
  http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/open-letter-to-hobbyis
 ts.html
 
  :)

 Wow, APL! I'd forgotten all about that one. I never learned the
 language myself, but I had a buddy that did. It turned him into a
 genuine fanatic -- worse than the Hare Krishna kids in airports. It
 also made a lot of money for him developing software for
 programming NC machines that would run on the original IBM 5100
 desktop computer (circa 1975). He's still doing that part time.
 -- cmg

I can't take this seriously.  It was late '70s before Microsoft Basic 
was around, IIRC, and such 'hobbyist' machines as were around were 
not only expensive, but had the operating system embedded - and it 
was into the '80's before it became anything like standard.  If you 
were not building your box - and how many were at that time? - why 
would you 'steal' the operating system?

Anne

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RE: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Frankie
No...

A virus is just a program like any other..

If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was running
on its own.

The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
install.
can still trash the windows install though..

As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
run
in win4lin windows it would be useless...

regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne
Wilson
Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2003 10:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?


On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:15 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 /

  Win4Lin requires a windows licence and install disks,
and you are
  running a virtual machine under linux.  All peripherals
are
  controlled by the linux drivers, so if it works with
linux it
  works for win4lin.  I run windows98, and it's well-nigh
  crash-proof! Win4Lin is not free, but it's not
expensive, and
  NeTraverse have an excellent support team - I have even
had a
  response on Sunday evening.
 
  Anne

 Does running Win98 under Linux (Win4Lin) still provide the
 virus protection of Linux?  I'm not realy clear on that.
 It sounds good.

 Bob

Yes - you are still running linux, and all the processes of
linux.
The windows bit is a layer on top.  Personally I play safe
and never
access the Internet from the windows layer, though.

Anne



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RE: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Frankie
Basic was the first language I learned..

Back when I was a youngin I was given a Commodore Vic 20
computer.
I taught myself basic and wrote my first big program...

A space invaders clone..

Much Later on when XT's came out, they started teaching
basic on the XT
at highschool.. the XT's we had were monocrome, had no hard
drive
and two 5 1/4 floppies.

They had a great star trek game though, you were an O (the
enterprise)
and you had to enter co-ordinates to blow up the X's,
(klingons).

I wasted alot of time playing that back then...

Big diff from what kids are used to nowdays though..



regards


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carroll
Grigsby
Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2003 10:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.


On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:01 am, JoeHill wrote:


http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/open-letter-to-ho
bbyists.html

 :)

Wow, APL! I'd forgotten all about that one. I never learned
the language
myself, but I had a buddy that did. It turned him into a
genuine fanatic --
worse than the Hare Krishna kids in airports. It also made a
lot of money for
him developing software for programming NC machines that
would run on the
original IBM 5100 desktop computer (circa 1975). He's still
doing that part
time.
-- cmg




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Re: [newbie] how do i setup mandrake to read my shared folder inwin2k ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
 i was prompted to reboot after changing the workgroup.  the sharing
 was done by right clicking and share this folder with default
 directory naming conventions.  i assume its sharing with full access. 
 both computers are linked through a home broadband router and dhcp.

I haven't been in windows in awhile, but if you go to my network places,
i think you should be able to see what is sucessfully shared.  That
might be a first step.


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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 19 July 2003 17:01, Anne Wilson wrote:

  Nope, you still have to be carefull!

 I'm guessing that HarM means that the windows install could still be
 infected, and I guess that's so, but if you keep all the Internet
 activity to outside of windows you should be safe.  The nice thing is
 that it is so easy to do.  |I run Win4Lin almost full-screen, so that
 I can just see the status bar below it.  I switch back and forth as
 often as necessary.  I can keep my mail program open while I'm
 working on the windows app, and I feel quite safe.  Of course, you
 still need to use common sense.  No use inviting trouble ;-)

 Anne

You're right, that is what I mean.

Personally I like using win4lin for testing cross platform apps and some games 
for the kids.
Alas lately I had to revive IExplorer because mozilla doesn't handle the 
javascripts well, that my (online) bank uses. Frankly Moz never has, where 
netscape (v4) did:o(
And the wonderful Calypso mailer for my (slow)GSM connection aboard ship is 
another reason. Downloading messages selectively after checking the headers 
is a real (financial) life saver.

I think what linux will do, is stop a virus/trojan using stealthy backdoors to 
get out and multiply or express itself.
Anyway it's easy enough to delete the win folder in the home directory and 
replace it with a back up or a fresh one, if one thinks it's infected:o)
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Bob Read
I see.   Then if we kept all email, browsers, address books
etc. out of the Windows layer, then we should be fairly
immune?
Bob

Frankie wrote:
No...

A virus is just a program like any other..

If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was running
on its own.
The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
install.
can still trash the windows install though..
As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
run
in win4lin windows it would be useless...
regards

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Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1

2003-07-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi Frank,
Again you put a lot of effort in this
This is very much appreciated at this end.
I will look into this and try to comprehend
THANKS
Enjoy
Johan

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Bax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1


 At 12:42 PM 7/18/03, Johan Scheepers wrote:
 This is one comprehensive response - of course all of it way over my
head -
 will need some close study.
 Sorry - would you maybe know any Howto's or sites or whatever to assist
me,
 please.


 Johan:  It's been about a year since I wrote/modified the script I posted,
 and it was on a *bsd system, so installation of DBI  DBD packages on MDK
 will be different.  In any case, I found these rpm's on the MDK 9.1 cd's:
 cd1 - perl-DBI-1.32-1mdk.i586.rpm
 cd1 - perl-Mysql-1.22_19-6mdk.i586.rpm
 cd3 - perl-DBD-Pg-1.21-2mdk.i586.rpm

 Don't install both mysql and pg rpm's.  Pick the one matching your
existing
 database.

 Although the perl-mysql rpm does have DBD in its name, the version number
 matches the (Oct2001) file at cpan.org (the next update was last month):
 http://search.cpan.org/author/JWIED/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2219/

 Now for the dBase part (called xBase to cover other compatible file
 formats).  Here's some doc...
 http://search.cpan.org/author/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234/lib/DBD/XBase.pm
 Download:
 http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/J/JA/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234.tar.gz
 After download:
  tar xfz DBD-XBase-0.234.tar.gz
  cd DBD-XBase-0.234
  perl Makefile.PL
  make
  make test
  make install
 All these commands except make install can be run as a 'normal' user,
you
 must be 'root' for the last step.  At this point, you should be able to
run
 the script I posted.

 As for howto webpages, I don't have any.  A google of perl dbd xbase did
 come up with an rpm for the dbd:xbase package on first hit.  A little
 further down, there is even one from MDK:

http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/mandrake-devel/contrib/alpha/perl-DBD-XBase-0.232-1mdk.noarch.html

 Maybe it's a simple as install of 3 rpms?

 Frank









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Re: [newbie] LAN problem

2003-07-19 Per discussione Paul Kaplan
If I want to leave DHCP enabled so as to allow me to bring several computers 
from work home and connect them to my home LAN and move files around on the 
LAN, what are my alternatives to lmhosts on both the linux and win side?
Paul

On Saturday 19 July 2003 08:08 am, Lanman wrote:
 Paul; If your router is handing off DHCP addresses, and your PC's are using
 their lmhosts file to find each other, you'll run into problems every time
 the router hands out new IP addresses. Try logging into the router and
 disabling the DHCP service, or use IP adresses that are outside of the
 range of IP's that your DHCP service has reserved. Then update your lmhosts
 file, and restart or renew your IP addresses on each Windows box.

 Lanman

 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 7/19/2003 at 7:09 AM Paul Kaplan wrote:
 I changed the configuration of my home network and now am having problems
 seeing the machines from each other.
 
 Formerly, I shared an internet connection from one machine and had a
 switch to
 connect the local machines.  The ethernet card on the internal network had
 a
 fixed IP address as did all the local machines.  The local machines used a
 gateway IP address and a fixed DNS server address (from the ISP).  I used
 Samba and was able to see all the local machines from the linux box
 (LM9.1).
 On the Windows side (W2k), the samba shares appeared in Network
 Neighborhood.
 
 Now I have a router on the network which dynamically assigns IP address to
 the
 LAN and all the machines are set to DHCP.  Initially I made no changes to
 my
 Samba setup other than to update the IP addresses of the LAN machines in
 /etc/samba/lmhosts).  I can no longer see the LAN machines from my Linux
 box
 (although I can ping them all by IP address or name).  From the Windows
 side,
 although I can find my samba shares by search for computer and
 subsequently
 force a virtual drive mapping, I can no longer see the machines under
 network
 neighborhood, nor can I manually create a virtual drive map under connect
 network drive.
 
 I'd like to be able to get at my winboxes from the lin box, and understand
 the
 win weirdness.
 
 Any ideas what the problem is and how to fix it?
 
 TIA
 Paul
 
 
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[newbie] Mandrake cooker??

2003-07-19 Per discussione Johan Scheepers
Hi,
How does mdk cooker work
Do I need iso downloads??
Install mdk9.1 and upgrade??
I have some drive space and would like to tinker.
Please some pointers.
Enjoy
Johan
.
May this be a good day for learning

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Re: [newbie] sending mail to the list

2003-07-19 Per discussione crak600
On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:08 am, Eric Huff wrote:
 This is weird: i used to see that same error, and others did too, so i
 just made a filter to delete it.  Since then though, i switched to
 sylpheed and only made filters as needed.  Now i realize that i no
 longer get that error.

 I wonder if someone has a spam filter running that bounces mail back
 until (s)he or the filter determines it's not spam?

 Anyway, you oughtta be able to just send it to trash with a filter and
 be fine...


i'll experiment with filters if it doesn't stop sending me those errors.  
thanks!

Mike

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Erylon Hines
Actually, the perps settled out of court, and it cost them thousands of 
bucks!

As for the latest, there is a thread going on Slashdot right now (hope the 
link works-if not just go to htp://slashdot.org and check out the RIAA 
Obtains Subpoenas Against File Swappers section).

http://slashdot.org/articles/03/07/19/1249214.shtml?tid=126tid=141tid=188tid=95

  Errr I don't know if my memory serves me right but didn't one of the
  movie companies successfully get a conviction on a couple of students who
  were caught sharing a film on p2p recently?
 
  Didn't seem to have much effect.
 
  John

 The case was settled out of court the university paid off an undisclosed
 sum (cowards)


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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 19 July 2003 11:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:01 am, JoeHill wrote:
   On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:31:09 +0100
  
   Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
You guys should really read this its outragious - if its true!
  
   and guess who started all this shite...
  
   no, take a wild guess...
  
   ok, here:
  
   http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/open-letter-to-hobbyis
  ts.html
  
   :)
 
  Wow, APL! I'd forgotten all about that one. I never learned the
  language myself, but I had a buddy that did. It turned him into a
  genuine fanatic -- worse than the Hare Krishna kids in airports. It
  also made a lot of money for him developing software for
  programming NC machines that would run on the original IBM 5100
  desktop computer (circa 1975). He's still doing that part time.
  -- cmg

 I can't take this seriously.  It was late '70s before Microsoft Basic
 was around, IIRC, and such 'hobbyist' machines as were around were
 not only expensive, but had the operating system embedded - and it
 was into the '80's before it became anything like standard.  If you
 were not building your box - and how many were at that time? - why
 would you 'steal' the operating system?

 Anne

Anne:
Actually, there was a market for MS Basic and similar software in the early 
days. Gates didn't get into the operating system business until IBM showed up 
on his front step with a blank purchase order in hand. His Basic was used on 
a both CP/M and non-CP/M machines. The latter computers usually had cassette 
interfaces -- the most famous being the Radio Shack TRS80 -- but some had 
floppies, too. IIRC, the base model TRS80 came with a simple Basic in ROM, 
but there was also an extended version that was loaded from cassettes. (You 
had to have 16K RAM to do that. Cost about $150 or so.) Liberating software 
for your buddies was tricky since there were virtually no standards; each 
manufacturer came up with his own nifty format which was supposed to make the 
disks (or tapes) inaccessable to any other hardware.
-- cmg


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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 19 July 2003 09:47 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 11:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:01 am, JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:31:09 +0100
   
Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 You guys should really read this its outragious - if its true!
   
and guess who started all this shite...
   
no, take a wild guess...
   
ok, here:
   
http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/open-letter-to-hobbyis
   ts.html
   
:)
  
   Wow, APL! I'd forgotten all about that one. I never learned the
   language myself, but I had a buddy that did. It turned him into a
   genuine fanatic -- worse than the Hare Krishna kids in airports. It
   also made a lot of money for him developing software for
   programming NC machines that would run on the original IBM 5100
   desktop computer (circa 1975). He's still doing that part time.
   -- cmg
 
  I can't take this seriously.  It was late '70s before Microsoft Basic
  was around, IIRC, and such 'hobbyist' machines as were around were
  not only expensive, but had the operating system embedded - and it
  was into the '80's before it became anything like standard.  If you
  were not building your box - and how many were at that time? - why
  would you 'steal' the operating system?
 
  Anne

 Anne:
 Actually, there was a market for MS Basic and similar software in the early
 days. Gates didn't get into the operating system business until IBM showed
 up on his front step with a blank purchase order in hand. His Basic was
 used on a both CP/M and non-CP/M machines. The latter computers usually had
 cassette interfaces -- the most famous being the Radio Shack TRS80 -- but
 some had floppies, too. IIRC, the base model TRS80 came with a simple Basic
 in ROM, but there was also an extended version that was loaded from
 cassettes. (You had to have 16K RAM to do that. Cost about $150 or so.)
 Liberating software for your buddies was tricky since there were virtually
 no standards; each manufacturer came up with his own nifty format which was
 supposed to make the disks (or tapes) inaccessable to any other hardware.
 -- cmg
I remberer unpacking my brand new  Kim-1 and then proceeding to 
 1 round up a power supply
 2. finding out what hex was
  3 labouusly coping hex code into kim  and trying to boot
  4 thru 500 checking my errors
 later I added 4k of static Ram so I could load Tom Pitmans itty-bitty basic
believe me when the trash-80 came along it was a huge leap forward


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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione John Drouhard
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:44 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB   
 Or you could get yourself a TbredB 1700+ for $45 and clock it to 2400+ at 
 333fsb.  That processor comes multiplier unlocked and is the easiest 
 overclock that ever existed.

I'm also looking for a new processor and motherboard. What if I got a
2400+, how much could I overclock that? I want to have good performance
for games and office apps.

  $84.00  Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by
   Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.
 Or if you want total compatibility without messing around, a KT400 board is 
 fully supported and the lan and sound will both work.  

I was thinking along the lines of a Soyo Dragon Ultra KT400 or Soyo
Dragon Lite. What are the main differences between these two?

 /g
 
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 a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 19 July 2003 06:40 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB

 Or you could get yourself a TbredB 1700+ for $45 and clock it to 2400+ at
 333fsb.  That processor comes multiplier unlocked and is the easiest
 overclock that ever existed.

  $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb

 If you go KT400, PC 3200 RAM is a waste because the board actually runs
 faster with the cpu and ram in sync at 333fsb, so PC2700 RAM will do. 
 Also, remember that the Mandrake kernel will have problems with memeory
 above 864, so you'll have to use the enterprise kernel, although 512MB RAM
 is probably more than enough unless you do a lot of video editing.

  $84.00  Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by
   Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.

 Or if you want total compatibility without messing around, a KT400 board is
 fully supported and the lan and sound will both work.  The dual channel DDR
 on the nforce2 boards gives you a bit of a performance boost, about the
 same as going from SDR to DDR RAM, but if compatibility is your game, it's
 not worth it because you have to install the nVidia binary drivers to get
 full funtionality.  Not a problem unless you can't get on the net to
 download them because the LAN doesn't work or if you are a pureist that
 will not use closed source drivers.

Buying a A7V8X using the KT400 chipset saves $20 over the A7N8X, but for the 
advantages of the A7N8X I would say its wasted money. The onboard dual NICs 
and soundcard make it worth the money, as someone always seems to build an 
open source driver that works. Look at WinModems.

My apologies, my price was for PC2700 ram, my text was not updated.

Overclocking always causes the chip to suffer, espeically in a 1700 to 2400 
jump. I use it only as a last resort, I would not build a new computer 
overclocked.



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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, aron smith wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote:
   what would be the best system that one could put together for under
   $1,000.00 USD
   Rules of the game
   1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI
   2 It has to run Mandraike :
 
  How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC,
  and speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you:
 
  $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB
  $146.00 2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb
  $84.00  Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by
  Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.
  $176.00 Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM
  $31.00  Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD
  $45.00  Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW
  $158.00 Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP
  $82.00  Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1
 
  $885.00 Total
 
  You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote.
 
  I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card
  on the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end
  dream system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let
  me buy it.
 
  Rob

 Rocks Alternatevly go the other way how cheap can you go? We have to use
 the advantages that we have

Swap out the components in my specing for the components in my machine, and 
you will drop down in the $500 to 600 range.
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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:30 -0700
Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, aron smith wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:55, Rob Blomquist wrote:
   On Friday 18 July 2003 09:08 am, aron smith wrote:
what would be the best system that one could put together for under
$1,000.00 USD
Rules of the game
1 Commercially available Hardware (no surplus SGI
2 It has to run Mandraike :
  
   How about this? I decided to let you recycle your monitor, keyboard, NIC,
   and speakers, and set this little multimedia rockstar up for you:
  
   $163.00   AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB
   $146.00   2 sticks PC3200 DDR 512 Mb
   $84.00Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by
   Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.
   $176.00   Seagate Cheetah 73.4Gb SCSI 1RPM
   $31.00Samsung 12xDVD/40xCD
   $45.00Mitsumi 54x-32x-54x CDRW
   $158.00   Geforce 4 4400Ti 8xAGP
   $82.00Creative SB Audigy2- 6.1
  
   $885.00   Total
  
   You will need a SCSI card for this system that is not in this quote.
  
   I build up a system with a XP2100, 512 Mb, GeForce 440Mx, and SBLive Card
   on the A7N8X, and it rocks, and cost me about $550. This is a higher end
   dream system that I would like to own. But I doubt that my wife would let
   me buy it.
  
   Rob
 
  Rocks Alternatevly go the other way how cheap can you go? We have to use
  the advantages that we have
 
 Swap out the components in my specing for the components in my machine, and 
 you will drop down in the $500 to 600 range.
Very Good but you people can do better than that
lets add another rule
 It is a system that you are setting up for a computer Illerate friend. : ain't I evil
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RE: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Frankie
well yes, but if you are on an internal network..
you might want to limit your filesharing as well..

Many virus's now will copy themselves to any network share
that the infected computer had access to.

rgds

Franki
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob
Read
Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2003 11:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?


I see.   Then if we kept all email, browsers, address books
etc. out of the Windows layer, then we should be fairly
immune?

Bob

Frankie wrote:
 No...

 A virus is just a program like any other..

 If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
 virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was
running
 on its own.

 The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
 install.
 can still trash the windows install though..

 As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
 run
 in win4lin windows it would be useless...

 regards

 Franki
 http://htmlfixit.com





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Re: [newbie] LAN problem

2003-07-19 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:09 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 If I want to leave DHCP enabled so as to allow me to bring several
 computers from work home and connect them to my home LAN and move files
 around on the LAN, what are my alternatives to lmhosts on both the linux
 and win side? Paul

Paul, (sorry) I missed the first part of this thread. What is the problem? 
I've got a DLink model DL-604 router, for cable-modem service that I have 3 
comps hooked to. It does DHCP, handing out the IPs to the machines, but I've 
still got the IPs locked under Linux, and Windows just grabs them. I can ping 
by IP or hostname on all 3, and copy files via NFS or Samba, depending on 
which OS my sons are (dual) booted into. I don't dual boot but they do 
because of a few games.

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Re: [newbie] Dream system(simi OT)

2003-07-19 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Saturday 19 July 2003 01:08 pm, John Drouhard wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:44 -0400

 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:55 am, Rob Blomquist wrote:
   $163.00 AMD Athlon XP2800 333 MHz FSB
 
  Or you could get yourself a TbredB 1700+ for $45 and clock it to 2400+ at
  333fsb.  That processor comes multiplier unlocked and is the easiest
  overclock that ever existed.

 I'm also looking for a new processor and motherboard. What if I got a
 2400+, how much could I overclock that? I want to have good performance
 for games and office apps.
The 1700+ is a particularly good overclocker, so I don't think you'd get the 
same kind of percentage increase with a 2400+, but check out the forums at 
overclockers.com for more info on that.

   $84.00  Asus A7N8X Mobo (has onboard LAN and Sound not supported by
Mandrake yet) otherwise its a totally rockin' board.
 
  Or if you want total compatibility without messing around, a KT400 board
  is fully supported and the lan and sound will both work.

 I was thinking along the lines of a Soyo Dragon Ultra KT400 or Soyo
 Dragon Lite. What are the main differences between these two?
I run the Soyo Dragon Ultra Black edition.  It works flawlessly in Linux, and 
will take the Barton core processors.  The only thing that does not work is 
the Highpoint RAID controller which is a windows only thing.  It works fine 
as an additional IDE controller though.  I think the difference betwen the 
Ultra and the light is an onboard nic and the extra Highpoint controller.

The nforce2 boards are nice, but if you are a purist and don't like closed 
source drivers, you won;t get full function
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[newbie] tar: how to extract first specific file then stop?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
If i do a command like this

 tar -xv home/huff/a/home.htm -f /mnt/cdrom2/cudaback.tar

it will find the file in an early directory, but then keep looking.

Since i know there is only one home/huff/a/home.htm, is there any way to
make it stop after the first hit?

thanks,
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[newbie] Can't install packages using CD writer

2003-07-19 Per discussione Rana D'Costa
Hi! I'm trying to install packages(drakwizard  smbwizard) from the 
installation CD#1 on my computer(which has the OS Mandrake Linux 9.1) but 
when I press install in the rpmdrake 9.1 window, a message pops out sayin' 
Insert the CD in the cd writer and also the tray of my CD Writer(Hewlett 
Packard 8100 series) comes out. So, after inserting the tray of my cdwriter 
with the CD on it, when I press OK the computer freezes. Mouse and keyboard 
doesn't work. Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem? Or is there if any 
a workaround?

Thank you.

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[newbie] Attn: Lanman: In-Wall Home Networking

2003-07-19 Per discussione Paul Rodriguez
Hi, Lanman I missed your response to my question
about in-wall home networking and Leviton products. 
Please email me personally if you can, I'd like to ask
you some questions.  Thanks.

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[newbie] RPMS

2003-07-19 Per discussione drew
Hello All,
 I've just to reinstall(after a fall out with some Nvidia 
Drivers).The problem I'm having is,when aclick on a RPM that I have download 
from the net,I get the open with box come up.If I set the install up thought 
Mandrake Control Centre,it worksish(I have to have the program name in 
there),but if I need to install any RPM which is needed by the program I'm 
installing,it does not work ie dependences 
 Thank you for any help given.
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 4:40 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 17:01, Anne Wilson wrote:
   Nope, you still have to be carefull!
 
  I'm guessing that HarM means that the windows install could still
  be infected, and I guess that's so, but if you keep all the
  Internet activity to outside of windows you should be safe.  The
  nice thing is that it is so easy to do.  |I run Win4Lin almost
  full-screen, so that I can just see the status bar below it.  I
  switch back and forth as often as necessary.  I can keep my mail
  program open while I'm working on the windows app, and I feel
  quite safe.  Of course, you still need to use common sense.  No
  use inviting trouble ;-)
 
  Anne

 You're right, that is what I mean.

 Personally I like using win4lin for testing cross platform apps and
 some games for the kids.
 Alas lately I had to revive IExplorer because mozilla doesn't
 handle the javascripts well, that my (online) bank uses. Frankly
 Moz never has, where netscape (v4) did:o(
 And the wonderful Calypso mailer for my (slow)GSM connection aboard
 ship is another reason. Downloading messages selectively after
 checking the headers is a real (financial) life saver.

 I think what linux will do, is stop a virus/trojan using stealthy
 backdoors to get out and multiply or express itself.
 Anyway it's easy enough to delete the win folder in the home
 directory and replace it with a back up or a fresh one, if one
 thinks it's infected:o)

Even better - if you do a tar of the win directory when you know all 
is installed and working well, it's as good as doing a partition 
image, so you can reinstall to exactly where you were very quickly.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 5:47 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 11:08 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:01 am, JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:31:09 +0100
   
Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 You guys should really read this its outragious - if its
 true!
   
and guess who started all this shite...
   
no, take a wild guess...
   
ok, here:
   
http://www.linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/open-letter-to-hob
   byis ts.html
   
:)
  
   Wow, APL! I'd forgotten all about that one. I never learned the
   language myself, but I had a buddy that did. It turned him into
   a genuine fanatic -- worse than the Hare Krishna kids in
   airports. It also made a lot of money for him developing
   software for programming NC machines that would run on the
   original IBM 5100 desktop computer (circa 1975). He's still
   doing that part time. -- cmg
 
  I can't take this seriously.  It was late '70s before Microsoft
  Basic was around, IIRC, and such 'hobbyist' machines as were
  around were not only expensive, but had the operating system
  embedded - and it was into the '80's before it became anything
  like standard.  If you were not building your box - and how many
  were at that time? - why would you 'steal' the operating system?
 
  Anne

 Anne:
 Actually, there was a market for MS Basic and similar software in
 the early days. Gates didn't get into the operating system business
 until IBM showed up on his front step with a blank purchase order
 in hand. His Basic was used on a both CP/M and non-CP/M machines.
 The latter computers usually had cassette interfaces -- the most
 famous being the Radio Shack TRS80 -- but some had floppies, too.
 IIRC, the base model TRS80 came with a simple Basic in ROM, but
 there was also an extended version that was loaded from cassettes.
 (You had to have 16K RAM to do that. Cost about $150 or so.)
 Liberating software for your buddies was tricky since there were
 virtually no standards; each manufacturer came up with his own
 nifty format which was supposed to make the disks (or tapes)
 inaccessable to any other hardware.
 -- cmg

Yup - I had a ZX-81 and then a Sinclair Spectrum.  I bought the 
Extended Basic, which included the ability to program text/graphics 
to windows (!).  As I said, there was no piracy there - we bought the 
box with basic in rom, and bought additional extended basic if we 
were interested in programming.  I didn't know anyone else at that 
time that had the same interest, so there was never a question of 
piracy.  I learned by typing in programs listed in magazines, finding 
that they didn't work, then working throught the logic to find out 
why and correcting them.

Anne

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[newbie] martian source in syslog

2003-07-19 Per discussione Sharrea
Hi

Recently I got a satellite internet connection which uses a PCI Telemann 
Skymedia 200DPA card.  It was working fine until a few days ago when 
suddenly all packets received via this card are dropped by the kernel with 
the 'martian source' messages in syslog:

Jul 20 09:22:40 tbird kernel: martian source 203.109.204.173 from 
210.55.24.8, on dev sm200d
Jul 20 09:22:40 tbird kernel: ll header: 
ff:55:01:bc:90:00:00:90:bc:01:55:ff:08:00

So obviously the kernel does not know where to route the packets to.  No 
settings were changed and my firewall rules are the same as when the 
connection was working.  Besides, this also happens with no firewall 
running.

I still use a dialup 56K modem to upload (dynamic IP), so only download via 
satellite.  When the sat. card's driver is loaded this what ifconfig shows 
for these two devices:

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:203.109.204.173  P-t-P:192.168.251.44  
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1514  Metric:1
  RX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0
  RX bytes:66 (66.0 b)  TX bytes:87 (87.0 b)

sm200dLink encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:BC:01:55:FF
  inet addr:192.168.19.53  Bcast:192.168.19.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

Does anyone know how I tell the kernel that this device is supposed to 
receive packets from the internet?  I've spent two days fiddling with 
problem and I'm at a loss as to what to try next... and I've not much hair 
left to pull out ;)   ANY help would be very much appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 4:14 pm, Frankie wrote:
 Basic was the first language I learned..

 Back when I was a youngin I was given a Commodore Vic 20
 computer.
 I taught myself basic and wrote my first big program...

 A space invaders clone..

 Much Later on when XT's came out, they started teaching
 basic on the XT
 at highschool.. the XT's we had were monocrome, had no hard
 drive
 and two 5 1/4 floppies.

 They had a great star trek game though, you were an O (the
 enterprise)
 and you had to enter co-ordinates to blow up the X's,
 (klingons).

 I wasted alot of time playing that back then...

 Big diff from what kids are used to nowdays though..


The ZX-81 worked programs from a cassette tape - which stretched very 
quickly and soon became useless, so you had to have a backup tape.  
Also, I had the 16KB (Yes, KB!) memory pack, strapped on the back 
with insultating tape to stop wobble.  You would work all evening on 
a bit of programming, then at 23:30 you would have a 'white-out' and 
it was all lost.  That's how I learned the value of backups g

Anne

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[newbie] playing dvd's

2003-07-19 Per discussione Josenildo Marques
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I think I need some tips to boost up dvd playing since a message says 'there 
are too many packets etc when I try to play some dvd's. But it happens only 
with some dvd's, not with all.
I have Mplayer here on 9.1.
TIA

JM
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iD8DBQE/Gbfd4eVBtrgQWDsRAg0MAKCLbsWGbyX3qvZKZ9TQPA8rztfOAQCdHbSL
hZa3ISc1I+eFAbeqpFugxZ8=
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 19 July 2003 23:08, Anne Wilson wrote:


 Even better - if you do a tar of the win directory when you know all
 is installed and working well, it's as good as doing a partition
 image, so you can reinstall to exactly where you were very quickly.

 Anne

Yeah, on top of that if you make a habit of saving important stuff in the 
mydata folder you don't loose anything out of there either:o)

If it weren't for my gps navigation programs (vector maps!) I wouldn't dream 
of double booting. Actually windows is quite good at that.It'll even run 
those programs happily on a 486.
I had a compaq pressario dedicated to do just that(despite the small screen), 
but I lent it to a collegea and never seen it since.
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Re: [newbie] Still no KdeprintFax

2003-07-19 Per discussione owenb
Thanks Derek,
 It seems to be working after I corrected my blunder.  I printed 
qtcups--stdin instead of qtcups --stdin
Owen

Derek Jennings wrote:

On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 1:55 pm, owenb wrote:
 

After following several suggestions to activate the fax feature of
Open Office. It still doens't work.  After the initial disk
installation I installed all the updates associated with the 9.1 prior
to trying to utalize the KdeprintFax.  I don't know if this introduced
problems or not.  Now I'm wondering if I should reinstall 9.1?   Would
I have to start by reformating the HD partition?  Any suggestions I
just want to be able to fax from Open Office. I don't care if it is
KdeprintFax, Efax or any other software as long as it works.
I did follow Derek's suggestion below and it did get faxing to work
from Kword but not Open Office.
Derek Jennings wrote:
 

If you are using KDE and CUPS then when you print a dialogue box
appears. The  drop down 'Name' selects the printer to use.
Underneath your real printers there are four 'pseudo' printers :-
Mail PDF File
Print to File (PDF)
Print to File (Postscript)
Send to Fax   (not Print to fax)
If they are not there then it is easy enough to add them.
Open KDE ControlCentrePeripheralsPrinters
Select Administrator mode.
Right click in the white area, select 'Add special (pseudo) printer'
In the pop up configuration box give it a name and in the 'Command
Settings' box enter kdeprintfax %in
derek
   

And did you follow my instructions here
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/fax_cups.html to add qtcups as a printer to 
OpenOffice?  If you do that, then when you print with OpenOffice qtcups will 
appear as one of the printers available, and that leads you into exactly the 
same printer dialogue as Kword.

Reinstalling or reformatting will not help. It is just a matter of defining 
qtcups as an OpenOffice printer.

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Re: [newbie] Compact flash disk reader.

2003-07-19 Per discussione James Henry Maiewski
On Saturday 19 July 2003 05:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 12:14 am, manolis wrote:
  Anyway...
  Although I didn't figured out what is going on I also want to ask
  related to the this problem:
  Any time that I plug in my USB reader it gets another name in the
  /dev tree for example the first time I pluged it in I get: /dev/sda
  when I unplugged it and replug it again I get : /dev/sdb  etc...
  etc...
  I think this is related to my problem...
  How can I remove the faulty /dev/..   links?
  This doesn't happen with my USB flash thumb drive that automounts
  fine , and every time I plug it in I get: /dev/sdb1
 
  Please Help..!!

 Hi, Manolis.  I think that when you use more than one removable device
 the system sometimes gets confused.  I have a similar problem.  When
 it happens to me I just open up the MCC, Hardware List.  It should
 re-detect the device and mount it correctly.

 Anne

Hello,

If this doesn't seem obviouslywrong, I wnder if you are umounting the 
/dev/sda1 before unplugging it?

There was another USB/Flash question regarding supermount.  I just have a 
simple '/dev/sda1 /mnt/fubar auto auto,user,noauto,ro 0 0' line in fstab and 
I get a nifty icon (in 9.1) on the desktop after boot (even when there is no 
disk in the reader.  All I have to do is put a disk in and click the icon... 
voila!  I think its great, and I don't have to deal with any super-dooper 
anything.

For what my opinion is worth,
-Jim


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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
 The ZX-81 worked programs from a cassette tape - which stretched very 
 quickly and soon became useless, so you had to have a backup tape.  
 Also, I had the 16KB (Yes, KB!) memory pack, strapped on the back 
 with insultating tape to stop wobble.  You would work all evening on 
 a bit of programming, then at 23:30 you would have a 'white-out' and 
 it was all lost.  That's how I learned the value of backups g

Those were the days!  We had the same thing. Then, dad bought the Timex
Sinclair 2068, and a disk drive controller from Oliger. No case, just a
PCBA that plugged into the back of the computer.  We were cruisin then:
5 1/4 floppies were so much better than tape!  

Imagine the day when bootup took .5 seconds and the entire state of a
machine (and i mean every byte of ram) could be saved/loaded at the
touch of a button  in 10 seconds. Also a great feature when you were
trying to get farther along in a game.

Dad and i used to program that thing together.

Ahhh, Anne, thanks for the nostalgia again.

For my dad, it's not just nostalgia: he still uses that computer every
once-in-ahile.

eric

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Re: [newbie] modem sharing vs ICS

2003-07-19 Per discussione Sharrea
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:51, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
snip
What I want is when
 pc1 is not connected to internet, pc2 should be able to dial modem
 connected to ttsy0 of pc1 and connect to internet. Is it possible? if so
 how.

There's linecontrol which runs linesrv on the server (ie. pc1) and klcc on 
the client (ie. pc2).  klcc is the KDE client software or there's wlc for 
windoze.  Works well, but I don't know how to turn off the volume on the 
modem so I have to listen to the dialing/connecting noises and then it hums 
rather loudly whilst connected (external modem).
http://linecontrol.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Paul
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 22:16, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 4:14 pm, Frankie wrote:
  Basic was the first language I learned..
 
  Back when I was a youngin I was given a Commodore Vic 20
  computer.
  I taught myself basic and wrote my first big program...
 
  A space invaders clone..
  snip

 
 The ZX-81 worked programs from a cassette tape - which stretched very 
 quickly and soon became useless, so you had to have a backup tape.  
 Also, I had the 16KB (Yes, KB!) memory pack, strapped on the back 
 with insultating tape to stop wobble.  You would work all evening on 
 a bit of programming, then at 23:30 you would have a 'white-out' and 
 it was all lost.  That's how I learned the value of backups g
 
 Anne
 

ZX81 - I got the DIY kit, had to solder together myself.

Could do some incredible things in 1K of memory, (e.g. space invaders)
until I could afford the 16K add-on. I've still got it, and an add-on
board with EPROM with kernel - can't remeber what it did. Have to sort
it out.

Then moved onto the Tandy Color Computer using MS-Basic, but preferred
to run OS-9 from disk.

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[newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione drew
Hello All,
 I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install RPM's
from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
 Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?
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Re: [newbie] more supermount stuff

2003-07-19 Per discussione Bill Winegarden
Hi,
Thanks Anne and John. First offto answer John...there is no floppy drive 
at all in my laptop. I took it out of the drive bay and added the cdrw. Also, 
hard drive is hda, cdrom is hdb and cdrw is hdc. Next, Anne, it seems that 
there is another difference between your fstab lines and mine. Yours read 
 iocharset=iso8859-15
while mine read
 iocharset=iso8859-1
I'm usually not worried about trying the different options but I'd like to see 
if, collectively, any of these differences make sense.
Also, for John, my lilo.conf does have the scsi emulation turned on thus
append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet
Any ideas?

Thanks for everything so far.

Regards,
Bill W.

On Saturday 19 July 2003 07:09 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In Konq (or any app) whenever I try to access /mnt , it freezes and has to
  be killed. I checked my fstab and found that there are 2 entries for a
  single floppy drive. This is my laptop and I replaced the floppy with a
  cdrw. 9.1 picked that up nicely.

 So you don't have a Floppy at all ?
 Or you did have two floppy drives, and now you have one ?

  Checking the archives, there doesn't seem to be much on supermount or
  fstab since 9.1 was released. Here is my fstabperhaps some may have
  suggestions.
 
 
 none /mnt/cdrom supermount
  dev=/dev/hdb,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
  none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount
  dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
  none /mnt/floppy supermount
  dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
 
 
 I really like the supermount, so I would like to hang on to it if
  possible.
 
 
 Bill W.

 Supermount is very much a work in progress, not much is written up yet.
 I have never owned a laptop, so experiece with their ide layout is
 unfamiliar to me.

 So then, what is the ide layout ?
 Ide0 = Hardrive(s)
 Ide1 = cdrom and writer , master and slave in that order ?

 Or is it,
  Ide0 = harddrive and writer,  configured mater and slave ?

 Assuming the first layout,

 Harddrive = /dev/hda

 cdrom = /dev/hdc
 writer  = /dev/hdb   but is it scsi-emulated in /etc/lilo.conf as
 hdd=ide-scsi ?

 so, under  supermount , cdrom and writer fstab entries look to be correct..

 The floppy entry looks correct, if you still have one.

 If it doesn't work then maybe it's a hardware related issue.
 first try, cdrecord -scanbus to make sure it's on the bus.
 Then there are further commands to issue to test the capability of the
 drives, but I cannot rememebr what they are. Maybe Tom Brinkman can jog
 our memories.

 John


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Re: [newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione Sharrea
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:30, drew wrote:
 Hello All,
  I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install RPM's
 from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
  Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?
   Drew

I'm not sure what you mean by KDE being broken - do you mean you can't use 
kpackage to install rpms?  Also, what version mdk?  I'm still using mdk9.0 
and kpackage is broken here.

Installing rpms from the command line should still work regardless of the 
environment being used.

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Re: [newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione Eric Huff
I don't use kde, but it seems when other people have trouble, a common
solution is to rename the .kde dir and let kde start over.  hopefully
the mail filters, etc, in the .kde dir can be copied...

  I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install
  RPM's
 from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
  Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?
   Drew

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Re: [newbie] how do i setup mandrake to read my shared folder inwin2k ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 00:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i was prompted to reboot after changing the workgroup.  the sharing was
 done by right clicking and share this folder with default directory naming
 conventions.  i assume its sharing with full access.  both computers are
 linked through a home broadband router and dhcp.

If you're still not able to properly share via reboot and after you've
double checked all configurations, I would start to think that the fact
you're using DHCP for connectivity INSIDE your network could be the
culprit.

You should be able to setup the machines inside your network with static
IP addresses, using the IP address of the router as your gateway for
your internet connectivity. The settings for Samba sharing allow you to
make drastic changes to the TCP/IP addresses that access the machine,
but it can become quite complex in it's configuration; easiest way might
be to give the static IP addressing scheme a go.

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Re: [newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 09:30, drew wrote:
 Hello All,
  I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install RPM's
 from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
  Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?
   Drew

You could login to Gnome, rename the ~/home/yournamehere/.kde directory,
then login to KDE again - this will recreate all of the default KDE
setups/configurations/themes for you -  that way you can discern what
exactly went wrong in the first place...

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Re: [newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 12:30 am, drew wrote:
 Hello All,
  I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install RPM's
 from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
  Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?
   Drew

Open KDEControlCentreComponentsFileAssociations

Type rpm in the 'Find filename pattern' box
select the '-x-rpm' file type that appears

The 'Application Preference order' should have 'Software Installer' at the top 
of the list.
If it is not there add it. Use /usr/bin/gurpmi as the command.
Also check you have the gurpmi RPM installed. (rpm -q gurpmi   in a terminal)

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione g


Anne Wilson wrote:

The ZX-81 worked programs from a cassette tape - which stretched very
do you still have your zx-81?

ria, i still have 7 of them in working condition and i am looking for more software.

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Mike Wafkowski
COCO forever!

MRW
- Original Message -
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.


 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 22:16, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 4:14 pm, Frankie wrote:
   Basic was the first language I learned..
  
   Back when I was a youngin I was given a Commodore Vic 20
   computer.
   I taught myself basic and wrote my first big program...
  
   A space invaders clone..
   snip

  
  The ZX-81 worked programs from a cassette tape - which stretched very
  quickly and soon became useless, so you had to have a backup tape.
  Also, I had the 16KB (Yes, KB!) memory pack, strapped on the back
  with insultating tape to stop wobble.  You would work all evening on
  a bit of programming, then at 23:30 you would have a 'white-out' and
  it was all lost.  That's how I learned the value of backups g
 
  Anne
 

 ZX81 - I got the DIY kit, had to solder together myself.

 Could do some incredible things in 1K of memory, (e.g. space invaders)
 until I could afford the 16K add-on. I've still got it, and an add-on
 board with EPROM with kernel - can't remeber what it did. Have to sort
 it out.

 Then moved onto the Tandy Color Computer using MS-Basic, but preferred
 to run OS-9 from disk.

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Re: [newbie] RPMS

2003-07-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:56:48 +0100
drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Hello All,
  I've just to reinstall(after a fall out with some Nvidia 
 Drivers).The problem I'm having is,when aclick on a RPM that I have
 download from the net,I get the open with box come up.If I set the
 install up thought Mandrake Control Centre,it worksish(I have to have
 the program name in there),but if I need to install any RPM which is
 needed by the program I'm installing,it does not work ie dependences 
  Thank you for any help given.

urpmi is your friend!

1. Go here and configure all your souces:

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php

2. then as root, urpmi [program you want to install]

saves you searching the net for packages you want or need, and resolves
dependancies automatically.

at the console, type 'man urpmi' for much, much more info!

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Re: [newbie] Can't install packages using CD writer

2003-07-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:54:28 -0400
Rana D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem? Or is there if any 
 a workaround?

well, a 'workaround' is to copy the contents of the installation CDs to
/usr/src/mdkcd1, etc. then change the path in the MCC to your HD instead
of the CDs.

this is not a solution, obviously, you should not experience this
problem.

try in a terminal as root:

urpmi drakwizard

and report back! schnell! raus!

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Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3

2003-07-19 Per discussione L.V.Gandhi
On Friday 18 Jul 2003 6:33 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 No problems now, finally got my head around it thanks to all for the
 help. It was dead easy, in the end.

 1. Install imap package.
 2. Configure users on server
 3. Configure fetchmail

 Done.

 Took me the whole day, of course, and about 3 billion test mails, but
 that's why me is on the newb list I guess...


I think you should write a howto in detail. I will be happy to receive it.
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Re: [newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 19 July 2003 05:10 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 09:30, drew wrote:
  Hello All,
   I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install RPM's
  from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
   Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?
Drew

 You could login to Gnome, rename the ~/home/yournamehere/.kde directory,
 then login to KDE again - this will recreate all of the default KDE
 setups/configurations/themes for you -  that way you can discern what
 exactly went wrong in the first place...

Actually, easier is to drop to a virtual terminal or console and issue the 
command mv .kde .kdebackup and .kde will dissappear, and be renamed as 
.kdebackup. mv is equivalent to move in WinSnooze, and mv is used to rename 
files and directories.

Basically, I only say this to set you all free from the graphical desktop, and 
let you in on the power of the commandline.

Rob

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Re: [newbie] Broken KDE

2003-07-19 Per discussione Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 19 July 2003 04:30 pm, drew wrote:
 Hello All,
  I've broken KDE somehow,I've lost the ability to install RPM's
 from it.Everything works OK in Gnome.
  Has anyone got any idea how to fix it?

Try running Kpackage from a console terminal, just type kpackage at the 
prompt and press enter. Most KDE programs will issue complaints in the 
terminal that only go to the bit bucket when it is run from the Kmenu.

Then try to install an rpm from kpackage. If there are complaints, see if you 
can figure it out, otherwise tell us here what's up.

You could also install the rpm using the command: rpm -ivh 
thefilenamehere.rpm.  If its a program that you are upgrading, then try rpm 
-Uvh thefilenamehere.rpm

Rob
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake cooker??

2003-07-19 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:10 pm, Johan Scheepers wrote:
 Hi,
 How does mdk cooker work
 Do I need iso downloads??
 Install mdk9.1 and upgrade??
 I have some drive space and would like to tinker.
 Please some pointers.
 Enjoy
 Johan
 .
 May this be a good day for learning

You'll want to read the cooker HOWTO, but I believe the installation routine 
is broken right now, so you have to install 9.1 and URPMI to Cooker.
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[newbie] Install Problem

2003-07-19 Per discussione jeepcreep
Just finished installing 8.1. Atr the end of the install process I was asked to reboot. When I did, after recognizing all the hardware and before getting into the OS, my screen started producing line after line of '40's, nonstop. What is happening? 

[newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.

2003-07-19 Per discussione ThinKer
I am currently using Mandrake 9.0. I am looking to upgrade my system to
either Mandrake 9.1 or Redhat 9.0 (I haven't decided yet).

In either case, I would like to backup all my work and reinstall from
scratch. I mainly use this machine for coding and checking mail so I
only use Evolution, Netscape, and Quanta. 

What exactly do I need to back up, and how should I go about backing it
up so that either Mandrake or Red Hat will be able to utilize my old
files?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Miark
You can mount non-Win4Lin directories as drives in Win4Lin so that files
are available to both Win4Lin, Linux, and/or dual-boot systems. I do
that so that my data drive is available to Linux, Win4Lin, and XP which
I dual-boot to on occasion to play games. (Win4Lin makes a default drive
D: Mydata that is just a folder in your Linux home directory called
mydata.)

If you ran some virus code in Win4Lin that wiped drives or destroyed
data randomly, your data from on the mounted filesystems would be at
risk. 

But yes, the best thing to do to minimize such risk is perform all 
e-mail and Internet activity on the Linux side.

Miark


On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:57:38 -0400, Bob Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I see.   Then if we kept all email, browsers, address books
 etc. out of the Windows layer, then we should be fairly
 immune?
 
 Bob
 
 Frankie wrote:
  No...
  
  A virus is just a program like any other..
  
  If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
  virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was running
  on its own.
  
  The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
  install.
  can still trash the windows install though..
  
  As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
  run
  in win4lin windows it would be useless...
  
  regards
  
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  http://htmlfixit.com
  
 
 
 



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Re: [newbie] Backing up the important stuff for an upgrade.

2003-07-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On 19 Jul 2003 22:25:35 -0400
ThinKer [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:


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otherwise, replies don't go to the list, and then no one has a chance to
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 I am currently using Mandrake 9.0. I am looking to upgrade my system
 to either Mandrake 9.1 or Redhat 9.0 (I haven't decided yet).
 
 In either case, I would like to backup all my work and reinstall from
 scratch. I mainly use this machine for coding and checking mail so I
 only use Evolution, Netscape, and Quanta. 

When you install Mandrake, you have the option of use existing
partitions, and then you can choose to only format the system
partition, /.

I am not sure if Red Hat will do that, and of course I must say I would
strongly recommend avoiding Red Hat like the plague. Ask Stephen, he's a
Red Hat Refugee!

 What exactly do I need to back up, and how should I go about backing
 it up so that either Mandrake or Red Hat will be able to utilize my
 old files?

by leaving the /home partition intact, either Red Hat or Mandrake will
have access to them. Of course, some of the config files and such may be
out or sync, but you can just delete any that cause you probs.

As always, it would be a good idea to backup your home dir to cdrom or
something, just in case.
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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 03:54:02 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Interestingly, my 17-year old granddaughter says that none of the 
 modern games have ever given her the pleasure that she used to get 
 from the Spectrum Frogger, Balloons and so on.

I wish I had my old Commodore 64 back. That thing had some great games,
like jumpman, David's Midnight Magic (pinball), Lode Runner, Raid on
Bungeling Bay, oh, the hours...and I always liked Frogger!

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Keith
In most Western countries, much of the wealth of middle class people is 
transferred to lawyers via the likes of lawsuits against a restaurant for 
serving hot coffee (spilled WHILE driving)
AND unconstitutional divorce/custody laws, where sharks (lawyers) must be 
hired to DEFEND ones right to still be a parent post divorce, rather than a 
visitor or mere wallet.
More people need to REFUSE to use lawyers, learn law, and become the only 
person in the last 4 years to have a circuit court custody decision 
overturned in WI.

On Friday 18 July 2003 07:21 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello JoeHill,

 Friday, July 18, 2003, 2:19:28 PM, you wrote:

 J and he's got lawyers! even Orwell, as pessimistic as that novel
 J was, never saw that one coming. God help us all.

 Makes sense currently. First, we transfer manufacturing offshore, than
 we transfer services offshore. What's left? The big money is in suing
 anybody in sight. Lawyers will prosper. It's no accident we think of
 them as sharks. Sharks have survived for a long time, while other
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[newbie] Converting .ico to ... ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione JoeHill

Anyone successfully converted highcolour alpha blended icons to a
readable image format, .png, etc.

I have a complete set of the MMX icons in .ico format, would't mind
convertin' em.

Cheers!

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Re: [newbie] how do i setup mandrake to read my shared folder in win2k ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione arosene
yes its definitely shared on the windows side :(



 i was prompted to reboot after changing the workgroup.  the sharing
 was done by right clicking and share this folder with default
 directory naming conventions.  i assume its sharing with full access.
 both computers are linked through a home broadband router and dhcp.

 I haven't been in windows in awhile, but if you go to my network places,
 i think you should be able to see what is sucessfully shared.  That
 might be a first step.



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Re: [newbie] Converting .ico to ... ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:39:02 -0400
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Anyone successfully converted highcolour alpha blended icons to a
 readable image format, .png, etc.
 
 I have a complete set of the MMX icons in .ico format, would't mind
 convertin' em.
 
 Cheers!

Gnome has an icon editor , I think giconedit, and KDE has one too. 
Probably the easiest would be to use ImageMagick's convert, 
such as convert icon.ico icon.png.

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Re: [newbie] Converting .ico to ... ?

2003-07-19 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:51:10 -0400
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Probably the easiest would be to use ImageMagick's convert, 
 such as convert icon.ico icon.png.

Thanks! Compiling as we speak! and watching the Matrix, and burning a CD
and downloading...uh...I plead the fifth on that one...heh

god i love this os...

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-19 Per discussione Erylon Hines
Interestingly, this case is the one always brought up when the subject of 
lawsuits (in the U.S.) raises its head, and the facts of this case are more 
interesting than just the anecdotal mention would suggest.

Why the corporation was found to be culpable was because their coffee was 
served too hot.  Why it was served so hot is the interesting part.  More cups 
of coffee can be brewed from a pound of ground when the water is set to 180 
degrees (F) than when set to 140 deg (F).  Managers of the restaurant 
franchises actually complained that the coffee was being brewed too hot, 
because the cups would soften when the coffee was poured, and they were 
worried that their employees were being exposed to an unsafe condition.  
Documents showed that letters had been exchanged between local managers and 
upper management, and essentially, the upper managers had vetoed lowering the 
brew temps of the coffeee because it would effect the bottom line -- 
profits on the sale of coffee would be lower.  When the customer was severely 
burned (badly enough to require skin grafts) and subsequently sued, the 
documents were discovered, and the jury found the upper management was at 
fault because they knew, and in fact had been warned on numerous occasions, 
that the restaurant's policy of brewing coffee at 180 degrees (F) was 
creating an unsafe condition.

On Saturday 19 July 2003 09:00 pm, Keith wrote:
 In most Western countries, much of the wealth of middle class people is
 transferred to lawyers via the likes of lawsuits against a restaurant for
 serving hot coffee (spilled WHILE driving)


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