Dear paul,
Hi, being an electrical engineer myself I have to say that I agree with
all the points you made except one. That is the one comparing SAP to
CCIE. If you look into it deeply SAP was a software Cisco is basically a
hardware company. So if some has been a CCIE for a couple of years and
I thought Cisco is more of a software (IOS)company than a hardware company?
-Bubba
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Dear paul,
Hi, being an electrical engineer myself I have to say that I agree with
all the points you made except one. That is the
Do you think the certifications (like CCIE) is more important when you want
to work as a contractor ?
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Do you think the certifications (like CCIE) is more important when you
want
to work as a contractor ?
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Hi
There seems to be a move a foot for companies to require a 4 year degree.
But it seems to be somewhat limited to your age group. IMHO if you are under
35 you had better have/get that BS degree, but if you are over 35 then it
really depends more on your experience.
Many companies placing
ee theory, all the and or not logic in it, as well as the binary exposure
you get is a help. Is it necessary, no but it certainly does help.
Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Omer Ehsan Dar wrote:
Hi all,
In the danger of getting flamed I will
Hi all,
In the danger of getting flamed I will enter this message. There is a
great deal of debate here that you cannot become a a good Cisco
Certified Network Engineer without having a Electrical Engineering
Degree majoring in communications well the list has members who dont
have the degree but
Hello all. I was just wondering how many, if any, of you that have
Cisco certifications also have certifications from other vendors, like
Nortel. If you do have others, could you tell a little about if you got
them before or after your Cisco and why?
In general, does the group see a
on site
installing one or the other most of the time.
Richard
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Hello all. I was just wondering
existence
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What he
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"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not su
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"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that
statemen
That guy works at your place too? Wow, he must get around... :-)
--- Dennis
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n
CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA
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"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm
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oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
prove anything... geez.
Scott M. Baron
CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA
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"certs don't
Very well said!!
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"certs don't prove a
sday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM
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"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that
statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the
subject
matter
Hey...isn't this the thread that went on for days a couple weeks ago and I
cashed in on all the 2 cents and the 2 bobs? I'm gonna be rich!
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standard in their questions so that only those who deserve it will get
it...
cheers for cisco
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Very well said!!
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Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are
the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them.
I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where
gener
including
juniper and CCIE but that is what Cisco and Juniper want as they need
support people if they want to keep increasing sales.
stuart
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Stuart Laubstein
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I disagree with the assesment of the CCNA being a hard test. I would say it
was much easier than any university exam I took with the possible exception
of Psych100. You als
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oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposed
B J wrote:
The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in
Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really
think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being
math, than your daughters first grade teacher?
Why do so
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The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in
Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really
think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being
math
LOL.
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B J wrote:
The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter
Once again, it totally depends on the subject matter being studied.
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oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove
anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "pro
B J wrote:
The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in
Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really
think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being
math, than your daughters first grade teacher?
Why do
' ;)
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I think
Okay here we go again with this thread .where does it end. Enough
already!!
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Da
March 2001 7:20
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No way, Allen... you already cashed it in about 15 messages ago
on this thread
- no fair cashing in twice ;-)
and I actually think this has been
?
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Let me ask
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i guess it'll really depends how you present yourself in the CV,
and during
the interview. . experience is good. but consider, if a young
chap with only
1 years experience but he can show the interviewer he have
ce would have to sit tight, and wait a couple more years?
Albert
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He probably wouldn't even make the interview room, because recruiters would
have screened him ou
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I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have noticed
a recent influx in people attempting and passing CCNP
and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
I believe that there are two distinctions that should
be made - and that you may disagree with. At least for
the bachelors degree, the experience is just that -
well beyond the actual academics. In addition, the
focus of the GE portion of the program is to diversify
- humanities, science,
I'm still ready to stop this thread and cash in on all the 2 cents thrown
in.
;)
Allen
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Rock
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oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove
anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The
only
p
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I believe that there are two distinctions that should
be made - and that you may disagree with. At least for
the bachelors degree, the experien
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This issue is turning thisgs upside down from point of view.
I would like to tell you my opinion. If CCNA, NP, DA, DP and IE written
are not worth then your Bachelors
iang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Hi,
My two bobs worth,
Any qualification is as good as the paper it is written on. In my
experience
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Hi,
My two bobs worth,
Any qualification is as good as the paper it is written on. In my
experience someone
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I believe that there are two distinctions that should
be made - and that you may disagree with. At least for
the bach
of it ;)
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No way, Allen... you already c
Date: 20 Mar 2001 12:19:54 PST
From: EA LOUIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: All positions are valid - Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
snip
(now I'm feeling like having a breath mint... hmmm.. what's up with
that?
"It's two, two, two mints in one")
LOL... I should be so jolly after
at:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
Louie
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Brad Shifflett
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:42 PM
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Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
Circusnuts wrote:
[snip]
is about to be let go. We call him Mr. Debug, the RSP melter (long story).
Jeesh!
How'd he melt the RSP?
Thats gotta be a story worth tellin'!
;~)
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: Louie Belt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:57 PM
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Actually, you are way too high on your estimate of CCIE's. As of February
28th 2001 there are 5432 worldwide, 2476 are in the US. A large
You sounded like some newbies has stole your job. Do you have something against up and
coming people who just want to learn about Cisco and consequently be certified for it.
I do not belong to this group of guys for i have been on this business for 12 years
but i'm not insecure if too many
I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have noticed
a recent influx in people attempting and passing CCNP
and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of
hundreds of people on this board ...
Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this means
nothing. It is good, takes a good amoumt of
My point was that more often then not, certified people aren't what they
seem. I like the fact that people want to learn more, because it keeps
"everyone" on their toes and learning about new technology. Part of the
problem is the industry's lack of insight into these so called certs. They
have
oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having
the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your
"fending off evil newbies" and then loose whatever
edge you think you have.
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The.Rock
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CC
11:32 AM
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oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned.
Having
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The.Rock
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock
oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't
pro
, and
experience.
My $.02, but I can only read these "discussions" so often before I have to
say something...
Brandon
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:07 PM
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and
lets keep ours about functionality.
Just another .02
Larry
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:31 PM
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When do I get my check? I think the 2 cents are up to a few dollars on this
thread now ;)
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To: "'Brandon Rose'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:19 PM
Subj
"The.Rock" wrote:
oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having
the know how, and knowing how to use are two
I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I
know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network
their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that
you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a
guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that
have failed the lab but can kick
the thread.
Seems to me this is simply another troll to spread FUD. I half expect
you will introduce juniper into the discussion soon.
Cisco certs are cisco specific, just as Novell, M$, Vines (remember
Street Talk, anyone, the 1st directory service?)etc. If you want a non
vendor specific cert,
This issue is turning thisgs upside down from point of view.
I would like to tell you my opinion. If CCNA, NP, DA, DP and IE written
are not worth then your Bachelors and Graduate studies worth the same. Just
papers.
I learn to configure a cisco router before knowing all the cisco stuff.
I
y" if I pressed him).
The havoc I could wreak on these guys with policy routing,
access-groups,
NAT, and route maps... heheheheh...evil grin
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to enter the market...and how some of these
certified people could not design themselves out of a paper bag, much less
configure a router properly.
-e-
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:41 PM
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ng that Cisco made the lab so easy.
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From: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCD
ining that Cisco made the lab so easy.
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From: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
u should be working or
what technology you should know- you'll always beat the TCP Magazine
salary
$$$.
Phil
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 3:41 AM
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rch 18, 2001 3:41 AM
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Hi all,
I am really getting fed up with this discussion of paper certification. I
read one mail
saying that while interviewing some one, the candidate said that he
wanted to become a
network engineer for better pay. Is the this
k (but I'd
guess he'd have said "the money" if I pressed him).
The havoc I could wreak on these guys with policy routing, access-groups,
NAT, and route maps... heheheheh...evil grin
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al Message-
From: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
So up front I am not against certs.
I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
do the work. Our company has and is
they
passed these exams. These guys may even passed the lab before you do. And
maybe you will come here complaining that Cisco made the lab so easy.
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From: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco
Hi Mike;
I find your comment very interesting, most positions state how
many years of experience before applying. The only exceptions
that I have seen with certification positions, is in the programing field.
It's not the certification being a problem - it's the resources for
people to obtain
I have
had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
Maybe it's just me, but comments like this have always bothered me,
regardless of whatever cert program we're talking about.
This might come off as a little stronger than I intend
.. heheheheh...evil grin
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I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
So up front I am not against certs.
I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
Cisco certified and not know enough to go
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
So up front I am not against certs.
I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
Cisco certi
nt: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:41 AM
To: Mike Davis; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
some of the certs are like getting a "paper diploma" (which is what I
got...
heheheh) So, if they are going to take the risk and study for the cert on
the hopes that the
th no working experience.
-e-
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:52 PM
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wot i would like to say for certs that they give you a strong base. If you
are a CCNP and CCDP you
.
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Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going aft
..evil grin
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
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I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the
ng, access-groups,
NAT, and route maps... heheheheh...evil grin
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
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I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA
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Date: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:54 AM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
So up front I am not against certs.
I am beco
owledge, attitude, etc., etc. that get you ahead, not the
perceived value of your certification.
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From: "Mike Davis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I will probably get
Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees
obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like
getting a two year degree or having two years networking experience.
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Dear all,
I do have the same question, can any one help us in this regard
Ganesh.ch
CCNA
Hyderbad
India
"Ken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees
obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like=
getting a
Dear all,
I do have the same question
Ganesh
CCNA
Hyderabad
India
"Ken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees
obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like=
getting a two year degree or having two years
Ganesh
I will say, it use to be a good thing to have MCSE, when this certification
first came out. There was not enough materials available in the market and
it was not easy to pass the test comparing to these days which means if u
manage to pass the exams, you got good skills or experience,
There is no direct matching. You can get any Cisco cert with absolutely no class room
time. Just pass the test. That plus the fact that there is absolutely no liberal arts
requirement for IT certifications. There are some colleges that include MCSE and or
other certification type classes into
Ganesh Chintalapati wrote:
Dear all,
I do have the same question, can any one help us in this regard
The only person that can answer this question is the person
that is interviewing you. Unless, that is, there is a top
secret cert-degree chart out there that none of us is
aware of.
Hey,
If any of you guys are interested, there is a new site with remote
rental equipment available. Just thought I'd pass it on, looks like a
great lab! Here is where I found it...
www.cheaplab.com
Happy studying,
jtracy
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writes:
Hey,
If any of you guys are interested, there is a new site with remote
rental equipment available. Just thought I'd pass it on, looks like a
great lab! Here is where I found it...
www.cheaplab.com
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