Re: [newbie] Menudrake crashes when starting
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 06:04 pm, hackhound wrote: > > If you run > > update-menus -v > > in a terminal as root and then as a user do you see any error > > messages? > > Running update-menus -v as both root and as a user does not > generate any errors. However, I did notice that both stop at: > "update-menus[14731]: Running method: > /etc/menu-methods/simplified/kde3" and I have to hit Enter go > get back to a prompt. That's just what you should need to do. OTOH, if you don't wanna be bothered with that, then run 'update-menus -v -n'. The -n switch will get you back to the prompt without hitting . Particularly useful if you run update-menus with an alias, an specially if you include other commands. EG, alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && ldconfig -v && update-menus -v -n' Also, you should log out and then back into your desktop after running update-menus > I am still getting the segmentation fault when I launch > menudrake, sigh. > > Thanks, > Hackhound -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] /dev/pts ???
On Friday 18 February 2005 10:32 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Ivica Bogdanovic wrote: > > Does any body knows what is /dev/pts I got it in the fstab > > and during the boot it says "no device or already > > mounted"when i open /dev/pts folder i got 3 devices inside > > marked with 0,1,2.I am suspecting on my sky star 2 card > > because it is the only hardware that isnt setup on my system > > but can any body tell me what is this device > > Cheers > > What version are you running? If you are running 10.1, did you > do an upgrade? Off hand, I would say that the entry is left > over from upgrading. I know 10.1 with udev doesn't use the pts > file system. I will check 9.2 later. > > Mikkel I started to answer this thread in the beginning but wasn't sure of why I have# none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 (disabled by commenting out) in /etc/fstab. The advice on cooker was to remove the line as 'pts' are no longer used. IIRC this was early on in 10.1 development at the time of switching from devfs to udev. So I believe you've got it right Mikkel, those that upgraded to 10.1 should either remove the line, or comment it out. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [Installation] Error on booting from cd - Unable to mount root fs
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 07:52 am, riccardo wrote: > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 01:01 pm, James Nunnerley wrote: > > Can anyone assist with what the problem is likely to be? > > ___ > > ~ maybe a module. such as Reiser file system is not loading? > > best rgds > More likely SATA, an WD could be part of the problem also search 'sata' on both bugzilla and cooker https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&w=2&r=1&s=sata&q=b -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] /dev/dsp gone??
On Saturday 29 January 2005 03:42 pm, Alan Ianson wrote: > I am running the 10.2b1 and after rebooting I have no sound, > although sound was working fine on the first boot up. I don't > see any /dev/dsp for some reason. How do I recreate that file, > or what do I need to do to get sound back? Better asked on the cooker list. You shouldn't be usin cooker without also monitoring the cooker ML, changelog, and bugzilla as a minimum. Anyhow, IME, a week or so ago I needed to install 'aumix' and run it to reset the sliders from -0-. Previously all that was needed was to watch with cooker updates was that Kmix didn't mute. IIRC, a kernel or KDE update did me in. OTOH, a search of the 'expert' archive might be useful. A recent discussion, "USB and Sound problems on 10.1 not on 10.0" revealed that Theo (no relative of mine) got sound back by runnin 'alsaconf'. IIRC, he got USB back too I implore you tho to research first. Specially the cooker, CHRPM ML archives, and bugzilla As to /dev/dsp, aumix ... mine on current 10.2 is tom # ll /dev/dsp crw-rw 1 tom audio 14, 3 Jan 29 14:46 /dev/dsp tom # aumix -q vol 100, 81, P pcm 100, 100 line 100, 100, P mic 100, 100, P cd 100, 100, P igain 100, 100 line1 100, 100, P dig1 100, 100 phin 100, 100, P phout 100, 100, R video 100, 100, P I never needed 'alsaconf', but you should run 'draksound' an follow the suggestions. Advice; since you've got 10.2b1 you've probly got broadband an cooker media sources. Update daily an contribute back to the lists, bugzilla what you can. Often that can be just stayin current an votin for bugs already reported, but not yet resolved. newbie to guru input. Don't be too quick tho, often bugs are fixed before the community even reacts with bugzilla's or posts. Sometimes not ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hope for mandrake 10.2 include QT 3.3.4
On Thursday 27 January 2005 08:30 am, Aron Smith wrote: > On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:10 am, Lanman wrote: > > Greg Meyer wrote: > > > On Wednesday 26 January 2005 08:48 pm, Teddy Widhi wrote: > > >>Hi, > > >> > > >>I wish on the next release of Mandrake 10.2 including QT > > >> 3.3.4. its the bug fix and backward compatibility for QT > > >> 3.3.x. Ok Thank you. > > > > > > Then you should post this message to cooker where the devs > > > hang out, not in newbie where the, well, newbie's hang out. > > > ;) > > > > Hey Greg! Speak for yourself, eh? There's nothing on me > > that's "Hangin' Out"and I suspect that this is also true for > > most of the list members! I keep it ALL nicely tucked in, OK? > > I used to hang out..but the ladies all laughed at me > > > Grin! Snicker! Jeez, why not just answer the man's question? qt 3.3.4 is already in 10.2 ~ $ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrakelinux release 10.2 (Cooker) for i586 ~ $ frpm qt3 libqt3-devel-3.3.4-2mdk qt3-example-3.3.4-2mdk libqt3-3.3.4-2mdk qt3-common-3.3.4-2mdk (alias frpm='rpm -qa | grep -i') -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 missing icons
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 09:58 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:21, Mike Adolf wrote: > > I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to > > browse to locate an icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and > > others used in the tutorial are not in my installation of > > 10.1, which includes the development packages. All > > autoupdates were also run during installation. Is this an > > oversite on the part of the release makers? Does any body > > have these icons or know where to get them. Goolging > > produced a couple of locations such as: > > > > /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kommander > > and > > $QTDIR/app/qt/tools/designer/examples/colortool/images > > QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 > > > > which I also do not have. > > > > Mike > > Have you tried kfind => tabwidget.png to see if it might be > living in a different location? > ~ $ locate -i tabwidget |grep png /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKTabWidget__inherit__graph.png /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKTabWidget__coll__graph.png /usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qtabwidget-m.png /usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qtabwidget-w.png (This is on a 10.2 system, but 10.1 should be the same) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Swap partion
On Sunday 23 January 2005 03:29 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Tom Brinkman wrote : > > " I always prefer to put /swap as the first partition (hd?1) on > a drive. R/W's slow as much as 40% the further down a partition > is on a drive, regardless of the drive's rpms, size, number of > disks, age, etc. " > > This puzzles me : I've always believed that a harddisk had its > first cylinders at the center. This should give a slower > radial velocity. Furthermore, if the read/write arm has its > idle position at the perimeter it should travel a longer > distance to the swap partition. > > But maybe I got it all upside/down ? > > Kaj Haulrich. Sort'a. HDD, the sectors on the outer perimeter are passing under the r/w arm at a faster speed than the inner rings. First partitions are on the outer rings. Now it is just the opposite with CD drives, which are recorded from the inner ring to the outer edge. Anyhow, back to HDD's, I believe the track location (inner/outer) has a much bigger effect than distance the r/w arm has to travel. r/w arms move so quickly back'n forth they'd put a humming bird's wings to shame. Also, today's large drives have multiple platters and r/w arms. Which BTW, 'park' by the outer rings. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/hard-disk.htm -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Saturday 22 January 2005 04:38 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: > Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Saturday 22 January 2005 10:32 am, Julie Sloan wrote: > >>I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully > >>during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. > >>I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the > >>original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I > >>can "see" into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. > > > > Actually you seem to have alot'a snap for a newbie. > > I hope I've learned a little bit in six months?? But a lot of > what you say from here on looks like alphabet soup on the first > pass :) So I'll read it again, slower... If most of us admitted it, we had to, or thought it wise to re-install linux about a dozen times in our first six months ;) > > In the > > re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;) Also, > > IME, one real big /stor dir is better than many. > > Why one real big /stor dir? User needs and preference. I have 4 stor partitions. I often encounter running out of space on one, when there's room on others. Use of dirs (folders) to separate movies, sound, pictures, essential backups, and misc would'a been more efficient on one humongous size drive. > Wouldn't it be better to have new > downloads (from unknown sources; I don't mean rpms) go to a > separate partition to isolate them just "in case", and to have > certain types of large files, for instance MP3s, default to > their own space? Choice of partitions and file systems is a matter of preference and user experience. Basically for partitions, / this is the root directory (not to be confused with 'root' user). It's the top level mount point, that all other directories come under. Even if they are on separate partitions. Everything on Linux is a file, partitions are put on mount points. To illustrate, type 'l /*' in a console and scroll up. Even better, type 'tree /less' (you'll probly need to 'urpmi tree' first) /home it's a good idea to have this on it's own partition, mostly for reasons you've already discovered. It can be a bad idea when a small HDD (<13gig) is used for Linux tho. IE, inefficient use of limited disk space. When I first began with linux it was on a 256mb HDD. I used one big 'ol / and a swap file. / is the only absolutely mandatory partition /swap almost imperative, altho a swap file can be used instead (as above). General advice is to make it the same size as installed ram, if that is at least 512mb. For smaller amounts of ram, double the size of the /swap partition, eg ram=128, make swap at least 256. So for ram=256, /swap should be 512. MOF, IMO, 512 is about the minimum. It's what I have now, an next install I'm gonna double it. For laptops that suspend to ram, /swap should always be at least 30% more than installed ram, if not double. /boot while this preference is outdated, IMO it's still a good idea to put /boot on a separate partition. Use of ext3 is an added precaution when other partitions use a journalled filesystem. IIRC, it's still mandatory for XFS. Further separate partitioning is mostly for production servers and for their unique security concerns. When attempted by newbies it can cause files that are needed to boot, to not be available during init. Sort'a fatal ;> File systems; Journalled is the way to go. Your choice but I've never had any problems with ReiserFS. Till now ... 2.6.10 kernels, and maybe newer ones have some issues with reiser, particularly on sata HDD's. I expect it to be cleared up tho. If this concerns you, use ext3. It's nothin but the old reliable ext2 Linux has used forever, with journalling capability tacked on. It's sort'a slow and clumsy tho. > > As to 'see' into Win$ux, that why I left it at > > 'complicated'. M$ ntfs FS's (and there are several versions), > > can be read by Linux, but write support is (intentionally by > > M$) dangerous and not supported. I'm not even sure if a > > tarball stored on ntfs can be transferred to Linux. > > Yes it can - is how I got a modem driver when linux wasn't > recognizing my conexant last summer. D/L'ed it into WinXP & > then cp'd it into Mandrake. > > >BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS. And make a > > separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3). Ratio of '/' to > > '/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but > > IME, 8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially > > if you set as
Re: [newbie] copying from a ntsf partition to Linux
On Sunday 23 January 2005 07:59 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 23 Jan 2005 13:12, Angus Auld wrote: > > Is it safe to copy files from my NTFS xp partition over to my > > Mdk10.1?? I have heard it said that it isn't safe to write to > > a NTFS from Mdk, but is it safe to go the other way? > > Copying is no problem, but do not move (mv). Remember that > moving a file involves deleting it on the ntfs partition. Keep > that in mind and you'll be OK. > > Anne I have no experience (no Win$ux), but that pretty much mirrors my understanding. Just one item left, if you make a tarball, say a backup of your /home directory... can you extract the contents of the tarball on a ntfs partition directly into a Linux (ext_, ReiserFS, XFS, JFS, etc) partition? Similarly, can rpm's stored on ntfs, be installed from there? I would think dual-boot newbies with no separate /home partition, might find this a lifesaving alternative to save their /home files and configs. Much the same with /boot, /etc, or /var. Directories I regularly backup (un-tar'd) to a ReiserFS /stor partition. Some rpm's I save too, just in case I need to --force them in again to replace (corrupted or deleted) files. Specially helpful for kernels. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Saturday 22 January 2005 10:32 am, Julie Sloan wrote: > > If /home's not on a separate partition now, and you > > have enough diskspace on a storage partition, just copy your > > entire /home directory to that partition. Then copy it back > > in after a re-install of 10.0, overwriting the install /home. > > This probly isn't practically feasible if your storage area > > is any type of Windoze file system. It's possible, but much > > more complicated. > > > > I copied /home to a CD, will reinstall 10.0, and hopefully > during the reinstall will set up a storage partition or two. > I'm dualbooting WinXP and Mandrake; have the Win on the > original harddrive and Mandrake on its own, separate, hd. I > can "see" into windoze from Mandrake but cannot write to it. > > thanks, > Julie Actually you seem to have alot'a snap for a newbie. In the re-install, make a separate /home dir this time ;) Also, IME, one real big /stor dir is better than many. CD backup of /home was a good idea on your part. This advice comin from an old idiot with 4 /stor[1,2,3,4] partitions spanning 3 PATA/SATA mix of drives with a total of 280gig. As to 'see' into Win$ux, that why I left it at 'complicated'. M$ ntfs FS's (and there are several versions), can be read by Linux, but write support is (intentionally by M$) dangerous and not supported. I'm not even sure if a tarball stored on ntfs can be transferred to Linux. Maybe someone here with actual experience can comment. I haven't used anything M$ in years. BTW, when you re-install I recommend ReiserFS. And make a separate /boot partition (~50mb's, ext3). Ratio of '/' to '/home' will depend on how much total space you have, but IME, 8gig for '/' and 12gig for /home is plenty ... specially if you set aside storage space. For small Linux 'only' drives (<13gig), I believe putting everything one big 'ol '/' partition, with a suitable /swap partition is best use. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
On Friday 21 January 2005 04:13 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: > What is your choice? (1-4) 4 > To satisfy dependencies, the following 556 packages are going > to be installed (1088 MB): > > > > I am on dialup. 22Mb takes an hour and a half. Do I need 1088 > additional Mb?? It's not 1088 'additional' mb. MOF, it's not even 1088 mb's. 1088 is the installed diskspace required, but since you're updating (replacing) packages, the the difference in disk space used is minimal. Also, 1088 represents the uncompressed size of the packages. Since the rpm's are compressed, your d/l would be roughly 40% of 1088, or 400 to 450 mb's. That's still way too much for dialup. I suggest you, beg borrow, or steal some 10.1 CD's, or re-install 10.0, saving /home if you can. If /home's not on a separate partition now, and you have enough diskspace on a storage partition, just copy your entire /home directory to that partition. Then copy it back in after a re-install of 10.0, overwriting the install /home. This probly isn't practically feasible if your storage area is any type of Windoze file system. It's possible, but much more complicated. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Translate errors with cdrecord?
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 08:30 am, David Reynolds wrote: > Okay, I need to back up some of my data and, more importantly, > burn my 10.1 ISOs before I reinstall (to fix the libgcc error > my machine developed on the last install). However *because* > libgcc failed, there are a whole host of programs I can't > install, so I'm back to the CLI for cdburning. > > When I try to check my cdrom burner I get this: > # cdrecord -scanbus (really, cdrecord --anything) Should be 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' on a 10.1 system. If that returns x,x,x as your burner, then burn the iso's with 'cdrecord -v -eject speed=16 dev=ATA:x,x,x -dao ' -dao is most important for iso's. x,x,x should be whatever numbers the -scanbus query returns. Make sure your drive supports disk-at-once. 'cdrecord dev=ATA:x,x,x -checkdrive' ... you should see 'SAO' (SAO == dao). For speed= ,use no more than 1/3 of your burners rated speed, or the media you're using, whichever is smaller, for best results. EG, 52x burner with 48x media, use =16. Check the md5sum of the iso before (this is actually a first step) and after burning. To check the CD, use 'md5sum /dev/hd?' where ? is the letter for your burner. All of that is after you d/l (or from CD's) fresh gcc-3.4.3-2mdk gcc-cpp-3.4.3-2mdk libgcc1-3.4.3-2mdk gcc-c++-3.4.3-2mdk . and do a 'rpm -Uvh --force *gcc*' to see if you can't fix gcc. Ignore my version numbers, that's current 10.2, but make sure you're using the same versions as already installed. --force in this case will only replace packages and files. IMO, it's about the only proper use of --force. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: winmodems
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 08:19 pm, Ana Paula Samodossi wrote: > Thank you all for your suggestions. I think I ll be switching > to an adls connection in a few months, thanks for all guys!! When you do go for adsl, holler back Ana, with the hardware required. Often your ISP will provide it. Sometimes both ether/nic and USB alternatives. Avoid USB. If they only offer USB, that doesn't mean you're stuck with it. Also state the ISP, as somebody here probly already uses them and has experience to share. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Odd experience
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 11:33 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2005 02:31 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Sounds like something with bittorrent. What did the error > > message say ? What torrent were you downloading/uploading ? > > Did you set your firewall to open for torrents ? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > It does, doesn't it? The error message was something about time > out, bad info on file or somesuch. It was Lokitorrent, and it > was a movie. :-) > > Yes, I had done a service shorewall stop (I know, I should set > it to open the individual ports). So the 6xxx ports should have > been open. Besides, I've d'/led other bittorrent files this > way, no problem. > > I still don't see what it did to my /home directory that the > reiserfs couldn't handle. :-( Three ideas; you ran out'a disk space or ram/swap or failed to limit upload rate. Another consideration is you need to be very careful on movie torrent sites. Most are uploaded (the torrent file) by really clueless Winblow$ users. Some are redirects to WaReZ sites. Some are malicious, not a worry for Linux, as they are targeted to fsck'up Win$ux boxes. Using these cautions, I haven't encountered too many bad torrents.. yet. But if seeds disappear, a bad torrent could still tryin keep messin with you. IMO, torrents are the least desirable way to get movies. Without the 'bad' problems, some are only an archive of corrupt .rars, with no par files for repair. Avoid 'cam' movies too. Many Windoze user torrents are erroneously encoded (aspect ratio), and you'll need to use mencoder to fix 'em. So next time you try a torrent, monitor memory use (top), and monitor the d/l directory's partition for disk space (df) from early on. 'kdirstat' is also useful for this. Also check your ~/.xsession-errors file to make sure it's not inflating rapidly. If you want further opinion, you'll need to send me the torrent file. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kde/urpmi mess
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 12:20 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >On Tuesday 11 January 2005 19:44, Brett Lyon wrote: > >>After a recent routine update (urpmi.update -a;urpmi > >>--auto-select), I get this when calling K3B (from > >>anywhere): > >> > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# k3b > >>k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: > >>undefined symbol: > >>_ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] brett]# > >> > >>Before the (blind) upgrade, K3B had been running great > >>for months. > >> > >>When I trace back all the packages that ultimately > >>provide libartskde.so I find that a)they are all so > >>embedded in the core of KDE that an upgrade would be a > >>hefty undertaking and that b)now neither URPMI nor > >>drakconf work for any kind of directly KDE-related > >>(only) upgrade anyway (they both hang immediately), so > >>it would be a lot of plain old rpming or making. Can > >>anybody suggest a way to begin troubleshooting this? > >>/var/log/messages, urpmi, (etc.) shows nothing > >>significant. > >> > >>system info: > >>MDK 10.1 OE, 2.6.8.1-12mdk, P4 2.66GHz, 512MB > >>KDE 3.2.3 > >> > >>I tried: > >> > >> libk3b2-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac > >> k3b-0.11.18-1.mdk10.1.thac > >> > >>and: > >> > >> k3b-0.11.16-3mdk > >> libk3b2-0.11.16-3mdk > >> > >>Other wierd things are happening too, like my konsole > >>schema is gone, kicker crashes, xtraceroute hangs, > >>etc. kde + urpmi = big mess. How can a "proficient" > >>beginner avoid these non-productive time-wasters while > >>staying updated? > >> > >>Thanks for any tips, > >>brett > > > >Strange. I just upgraded 161 MB worth of KDE and xscreensaver > >coming up today, but my k3b works OK. I noticed your command > > : urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select ^ a space is needed here urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select > >and this semicolon shouldn't be there. Instead it is : > >urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto-select The difference between using ';' or '&&' is that the double ampersand says to the system, 'run this next command only if the previous one is successful.' Use of ';' doesn't use this precaution. Obviously '&&' should normally be preferred when the subsequent command(s) relies on the prior one(s). > >My suggestion : try again if your update is older than one > > day. You might be able to get all the new stuff as of today. > > > >HTH > > > >Kaj Haulrich. > > Not sure, but it sounds like you tried to update with kde > running. I tried this once and ended up reinstalling from > scratch. Did the update one step at a time in the order > required for kde with xserver closed down and have had no > problems since. As I said - not sure if this is your problem or > not. I run cooker. I update KDE almost daily, sometimes several times a day. Always with KDE and X running. In the past I've updated 'final' or 'community' or 'official' Mandrake versions, always from within KDE. I have no idea who or when this fallacious advice originated, ie, "logout from KDE and/or X to update". It simply isn't so. This isn't Win$ux folks. What _is_ often needed is to update the system after the updates are installed, eg, I use an alias (as root), 'upall' alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && ldconfig -v && update-menus -v -n' Then log out and back into KDE to fully realize the updates. It's a good idea to use while logged out to restart the X server. Specially if updates were to X. If you're setup to auto-login to KDE, this step will auto log you back into KDE. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Bittorent info found
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 09:54 am, Anders Lind wrote: > > btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 20 name_of_the.torrent > > > >Even simpler if you use an alias for all but the torrent > > file, eg, 'bt name_of_the.torrent' and use completion. > > Then you'll see the torrent start, download rates, and > > current seeders and peers, progress, etc. It's also quicker > > to resume if you need to stop it for any reason. Most all > > of this is recent improvements in 'bittorrent'. > > (bittorrent-3.9.0-2mdk) > > Tom, have you used Azureus. ... IMO the best BT-client out > there > > /Anders Nope, sort'a set in my ways ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning music CDs
On Sunday 09 January 2005 02:57 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:46:13 -0800 > > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Assuming you are starting a new project each time > > go toFile select Newproject -->audio CD project > > Then drag and drop the .wav files into the box below > > (at least that's how it works for me) > > Hope this helps > > But if he is doing just a CD-copy, without encoding for example > mp3-files with XMMS to wav, then he just needs to use the CD > copy format...I haven't actually tried doing this with K3B for > myself, however I have burnt music-CD's for my neighbour and > for my mother with K3B without any problems (And with XCD-Roast > as well) > > /Anders Most GUI's do CD copy 'on the fly'. IMO a poor choice. Better to write to disk (HDD), then burn. I use a simple 'cpaudiocd' This requires you have a CDrom to read, an a separate burner. alias cpaudiocd='ripacd && normall && bacd && rm -f /home/tom/wav/*' | alias ripacd='cdparanoia -vB 1- /home/tom/wav/' alias normall='normalize -m /home/tom/wav/*' alias bacd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -sao -pad -audio /home/tom/wav/*.wav' IME, the resulting copy is often better than the original and will play in even the cheapest junk player. -sao is very much needed in the above cdrecord command when copying CD's that are at or very near the 80 minute limit. speed=24 is 1/2 speed for my burner and the media I use. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Bittorent info found
On Monday 10 January 2005 09:43 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > If you have the bittorent GUI installed > K->internet > --> file transfer > >Bittorent GUI > when the window pops up another window behind it also pops up > this second window has the info for bittorent Yes, but not just in the GUI. I've given up on the GUI because it's simpler and easier to use bittorrent on the CL btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 20 name_of_the.torrent Even simpler if you use an alias for all but the torrent file, eg, 'bt name_of_the.torrent' and use completion. Then you'll see the torrent start, download rates, and current seeders and peers, progress, etc. It's also quicker to resume if you need to stop it for any reason. Most all of this is recent improvements in 'bittorrent'. (bittorrent-3.9.0-2mdk) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE upgrade
On Saturday 01 January 2005 10:25 am, Keith Powell wrote: > After several frustrating hours of failure, I am afraid I will > have to ask! > > In Mandrake 10.1 Official, I am trying to upgrade KDE to KDE3.3 > which is on disk4 of the Download Edition. But my attempts have > been a complete failure. I have tried everything that I can > think of, using urpmi. None work. :( I also can't get > Install Packages to find the new KDE on disk4. Tried all sorts > of "add media" as well. > > So, PLEASE someone, in plain language, how does one install > KDE3.3 from disk4? I don't need to keep KDE3.2. I can't find > the answer in twiki or the archives. > > Very many thanks for any help. > > Keith Here's how I did it (then). I put in CD4 and cd'd to the KDE3.3 directory. There I ran 'rpm -Fvh *.rpm' which returned some missing dependencies. Mostly libjack* IIRC. I already had online 10.1 sources set up, so I used those to get the deps. You might be able to use your CD sources. That upgraded KDE packages I already had from the many from the 10.1 CD install. (which is what 'rpm -Fvh' does, see 'man rpm'). After the upgrade was finished, I ran 'upall' as root; [ alias upall='rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && ldconfig -v && update-menus -v -n' ] Then logged out, back into KDE, using Ctrl+Alt+Bsp to re-start the X server while I was logged out. If you are setup to auto login to your desktop, this will bypass the login next step. For my experience and opinion: _Don't do it_! If you really want KDE3.3, setup cooker sources and use urpmi to update to KDE 3.3.2, (complete cooker 10.2) You'll be better off. KDE3.3.1 shipped with 10.1 is alpha an buggy quality, IME. Cooker is currently stable. Do it NOW while cooker is slow for the holidays YMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b not burning CDs (Mandrake 10.1 PowerPack)
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 04:58 pm, Pablo Ortuzar wrote: > Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x02 Qual 0x00 (no seek complete) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > resid: 63488 > cmd finished after 18.635s timeout 200s > cdrecord: A write error occured. > cdrecord: Please properly read the error message above. You wouldn't believe how many CD's I burn. I've got more than a half dozen to do today. Long ago I gave up on GUI's an learned to burn iso's, data, audio CD's on the CL. It's actually easier than with a GUI, but it's not always bulletproof. The above looks like a problem with the image being burned. iso's are already an image file, but data (data flat files to mp3's to movies, .avi, .mpg, .wmv, etc.) need to be made into an image before they can be burned to CDr. I use an alias, (alias mkcdimg='mkisofs -r -o cd_image') so for example, 'mkcdimg name_of.avi' makes an image (cd_image) ready for burning. Then 'bdcd cd_image' makes the CD. (alias bdcd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -data') With most GUI's you won't see this 'image' process as the GUI does it on the fly while burning it to CD. Which often can introduce errors into the image. Another reason I avoid GUI's for burning. Occasionally cdrecord errors as it did for you. In those cases, using movies as an example, I re-encode the movie using mencoder, and then re-make the image, then it burns without error. mp3's can be a similar problem so it's a prudent idea to check them before makin an image using 'mp3_check'. If that turns up a lot of errors in the files, the last resort is to try converting to .wav's and then back to mp3's, or use somethin like 'mp32ogg' to re-encode them. IOW's, I believe your error is from tryin to make an image and burn on the fly with a GUI, or the files are just bad to begin with. Next culprits could be a poor burner, or deficient media, or burning too fast. Tho cdrecord often ignores your requested speed, and burns at what it determines as optimum. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem
On Saturday 11 December 2004 03:50 pm, RickSisler wrote: > Also drawing from your experience, > wouldn't *dmidecode* be of use in this case to see what a bios > supports ? > > The reason I ask, IIRC ..was of a post about what the bios > reporting information, on this list or the expert list .. > arrgh ..can't find the link now 8( sorry for asking another > question. > > Thanks Tom, > you helped me find out my MB supported local apic for 9.2, thru > lurkin, since I was having stability problems then. As I understand it 'dmidecode' just reads what is programmed into the bios chip by the vendor. Since much hardware is designed and marketed for Windoze, it may not be entirely accurate. EG, dmidecode returns that the motherboard supports ACPI and APIC. All this probly means is M$ non-standard and non-compliant ACPI and APIC is supported. I haven't run Win$ux in years and not since W98, but I do know for a fact ACPI wasn't standards compliant then, and was handled in software thru a registry hack to work with Winblows. About all you can do with Linux is to try trial'n error to see if your hardware will get along with the various bios capabilities that dmidecode reports. Complicated with the variables of different bios manufactures and bios settings. The combo of bios, hardware, and OS configuration variables can be very problematic, almost completely overwhelming. As always, hardware is a moving target, best researched prior to purchase an use, "the latest and greatest" avoided, and (rave) hardware reviews on prominent Web hardware sites taken with a grain of salt. Specially when the testbed OS is Windoze. LKML, cooker, and other distro development ML's are helpful as is Google/linux and as such should be given the greatest weight. FWIW, currently I'd look for an Award bios board, with a VIA chipset. Next would be SiS, last would be nForce*, as a starting point. Intel chipsets, I only have my own research to go by as I haven't used Intel in quite a while (P3 - BX was the last one). Seems the latest ones (about 6 months old) are best supported tho. There's only one, more certain solution. Don't use desktop or laptop hardware. Buy expensive production server kit designed to run Un*x ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem
On Friday 10 December 2004 09:37 pm, care free wrote: > I wonder if it is acpi=on or set you acpi on in your bios > > J.T. According to past and present kernel-parameters.txt, acpi=on is _not_ a valid option. ... acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface Format: { force | off | ht | strict } force -- enable ACPI if default was off off -- disable ACPI if default was on noirq -- do not use ACPI for IRQ routing ht -- run only enough ACPI to enable Hyper Threading strict -- Be less tolerant of platforms that are not strictly ACPI specification compliant. See also Documentation/pm.txt, pci=noacpi acpi_sleep= [HW,ACPI] Sleep options Format: { s3_bios, s3_mode } See Documentation/power/video.txt acpi_sci= [HW,ACPI] ACPI System Control Interrupt trigger mode Format: { level | edge | high | low } acpi_irq_balance[HW,ACPI] ACPI will balance active IRQs default in APIC mode acpi_irq_nobalance [HW,ACPI] ACPI will not move active IRQs (default) default in PIC mode acpi_irq_pci= [HW,ACPI] If irq_balance, Clear listed IRQs for use by PCI Format: ,... acpi_irq_isa= [HW,ACPI] If irq_balance, Mark listed IRQs used by ISA Format: ,... acpi_osi= [HW,ACPI] empty param disables _OSI acpi_serialize [HW,ACPI] force serialization of AML methods acpi_skip_timer_override [HW,ACPI] Recognize and ignore IRQ0/pin2 Interrupt Override. For broken nForce2 BIOS resulting in XT-PIC timer. ... This is the mesg about ML/twiki type opinions and advice I'm tryin to make known. acpi=on doesn't exist or is purposely neglected and undocumented. In either case it's almost certain to be ignored by the kernel and have no effect, or possibly an unintended one. Be concerned about ACPI tho. It's becoming most important on current systems where more than the original 15 IRQ's and IRQ sharing is needed. IMO, if you need to add 'acpi=' to your kernel, what you really need to add is better and standards compliant hardware to your system. The facts are available before you purchase, only opinions afterwards. APIC isn't all that big a fsck'n deal. Nice to have, might add a slight touch of performance to ACPI IRQ handling. This thread is the last of me being an ogre about advice and opinions as gleaned from ML's and twiki's when it's contrary to past and current developer's and maintainer's documentation. Probly why after years, I hardly post anymore. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem
On Friday 10 December 2004 07:30 pm, RickSisler wrote: > Kaj Haulrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Friday 10 December 2004 21:47, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > > > > In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, > > > > > especially the apic thing. Remove it completely or set > > > > > it to apic=ht or noapic. > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Kaj. > > > > > > > > apic=off has solved it. > > > > > > > > The append line was already apic=ht, so I first changed > > > > it to noapic and then apic=noapic. Neither had any > > > > effect. > > > > > > For proper and valid kernel parameters give > > > kernel-parameters.txt a thorough read. You'll need to > > > have kernel-source installed, as it contains the file. eg, > > > /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-20mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameter > > >s.txt Or you might Google for the file for your kernel. > > > > > > Many of the parameters I see in various ML posts are > > > not valid (possibly undocumented) and are ignored by the > > > kernel, ie, 'no effect'. > > > > > >APIC, advance programable interrupt control. If your > > > system works better with 'noapic', then what this really > > > means is you have non-compliant and/or deficient hardware > > > bordering on the 'designed for windoze' variety. > > > > > >Disabling ACPI and/or APIC is best avoided when not > > > absolutely necessary, to deal with sloppy, sub-standard > > > hardware. Tho in fairness, other popular distros do > > > disable them by default. If your system can't use these > > > advanced features, don't kid youself with believing that > > > optimization for i586, i686, or K7, compiling with PREEMPT > > > and such, will provide any benefit. > > > > Tom, does that mean, that an empty append line defaults to > > booting with both enabled ? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj, > as Tom said,"you'll need the kernel sources installed" > and the place to look for default kernel info is in: > > $ cd /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/ > > *linux* should be a symlink but YMMV.. > which contains the default configs for many different kernels. > So for example, mine is: > > #> uname -sr > Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk > > since we're in the proper dir.. > we grep the file for "apic" : > #> cat defconfig |grep -i acpi > # Power management options (ACPI, APM) > # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support > CONFIG_ACPI=y > CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y > CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y > CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y > CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y > CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m > CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m > CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m > CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m > CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m > CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m > CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m > CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m > # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set > CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y > CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y > CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y > CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y > CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y > CONFIG_ACPI_INITRD=y > CONFIG_ACPI_TC1100=m > CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=m > # CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ_PROC_INTF is not set > CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K7_ACPI=y > CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K8_ACPI=y > CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO_ACPI=y > CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI=m > CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_ACPI=y > CONFIG_SERIAL_WACOM_ACPI=m > > Then also grep for "apic": > #> cat defconfig |grep -i apic > CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y > CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y > CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y > CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y > CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y > > I got this info from Thomas Backlund from lurking the "expert > list" earlier this year. > > So it would seem *yes* Kaj, it is on by default. > > HTH I appreciate the addition Rick. Let me take this opportunity to add a caution to your post, but more so to previous replies I sent in this thread. ** Unless you know what you're doing, don't edit kernel config files by hand and then compile a kernel ** I do, but then I'm a reckless idiot ;> Many of y'all have run 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig' and noticed that when you changed somethin, some, sometimes many other options either were greyed out (disabled), or became enabled. This automatically protects you against setting conflicting compile options, and/or automatically presents others appropriate
Re: [newbie] Shutdown problem
On Friday 10 December 2004 08:53 am, Keith Powell wrote: > > In /etc/lilo.conf try editing the append-line, especially the > > apic thing. Remove it completely or set it to apic=ht or > > noapic. > > > > HTH > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Thanks, Kaj. > > apic=off has solved it. > > The append line was already apic=ht, so I first changed it to > noapic and then apic=noapic. Neither had any effect. For proper and valid kernel parameters give kernel-parameters.txt a thorough read. You'll need to have kernel-source installed, as it contains the file. eg, /usr/src/linux-2.6.8.1-20mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt Or you might Google for the file for your kernel. Many of the parameters I see in various ML posts are not valid (possibly undocumented) and are ignored by the kernel, ie, 'no effect'. APIC, advance programable interrupt control. If your system works better with 'noapic', then what this really means is you have non-compliant and/or deficient hardware bordering on the 'designed for windoze' variety. Disabling ACPI and/or APIC is best avoided when not absolutely necessary, to deal with sloppy, sub-standard hardware. Tho in fairness, other popular distros do disable them by default. If your system can't use these advanced features, don't kid youself with believing that optimization for i586, i686, or K7, compiling with PREEMPT and such, will provide any benefit. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdredord trouble
On Wednesday 08 December 2004 10:20 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > > I should have asked last time, what Mandrake version? > > > > No idea about 'NON CCS Disk'. Try looking around here, > > http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=NON+CCS > >+Disk&btnG=Google+Search > > > > What does 'cdrecord dev=ATA:1,0,0 -checkdrive' return? > > > > You might also try it for your CDrom, dev=ATA:1,1,0 > hello again. > > I should have told you the first time.. sorry. Running mdk10.0 > with kernel 2.6.3-7mdk. > It seems like hdd is the problem. But I can not say what is > wrong. The commands you gave me are below. > > Thanks for helping!!! > Best regards from Vegard > > > 'cdrecord dev=ATA:1,0,0 -checkdrive' gives this result: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] vegard]$ cdrecord dev=ATA:1,0,0 -checkdrive > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a28-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) > Vendor_info: 'LITE-ON ' > Identifikation : 'LTR-48126S ' > Revision : '2QS5' > Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. > Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). > Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 > RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Seems like your burner is ready to go. I can't help with GUI's cause I don't use them, but on the CL just specify your burner as dev=ATA:1,0,0 10.x uses ATA, not ide-scsi EG to burn an .iso cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,0,0 -dao If you've got an .iso handy, test the above but with the -dummy option added (see below). You'll need to put in a blank CDr, but -dummy will prevent writing anything to it. If you don't have an .iso handy, make one. mkisofs -r -o cd_image /path/to/a/dir/with_suitable_data_files Then try, cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 dev=ATA:1,0,0 -data -dummy cd_image (in the above examples adjust speed= to 1/2 your burners rating) > 'cdrecord dev=ATA:1,1,0 -checkdrive'gave this result: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] vegard]$ cdrecord dev=ATA:1,1,0 -checkdrive > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a28-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) > cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder. > cdrecord: Success. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error > CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > status: 0x4 (CONDITION MET/GOOD) > cmd finished after 5.471s timeout 40s > cdrecord: The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling. I dunno. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdredord trouble
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 01:47 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 December 2004 04:50 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > >> Also, typing "cdrecord -scanbus" gives this result > > > > Try 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' > > Heres the result of cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] vegard]$ cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus > Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a28-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-48126S ' '2QS5' > Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) '' '' '' NON CCS Disk > 1,0,0 100) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-48126S ' '2QS5' Removable > CD-ROM is my burner (hdc) . Although it says nothing about my > cd-reader (hdd) "Sony CDU5211" > > Feeling pretty clueless!! > Regards Vegard I should have asked last time, what Mandrake version? No idea about 'NON CCS Disk'. Try looking around here, http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=NON+CCS+Disk&btnG=Google+Search What does 'cdrecord dev=ATA:1,0,0 -checkdrive' return? You might also try it for your CDrom, dev=ATA:1,1,0 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdredord trouble
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 04:50 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > Also, typing "cdrecord -scanbus" gives this result Try 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Asus motherboards
On Friday 03 December 2004 11:18 am, Keith Powell wrote: > I am very pleased that you say the Asus motherboard and the > on-board Ethernet chipset both work well with Mandrake. I will > use that, rather than my SMC card. > > Why I asked is because, if I remember correctly, there have > been comments on the list in the past, that there are problems > with some on-board Ethernet chipsets. I may have mis-remembered > though. Fortunately those comments don't apply in this > instance. The onboard 3c940 uses the sk98lin driver. This driver did not work well with the 3c940 in _early_ inceptions, but it should be fine with Mandrake 10.0 (and newer) and 2.6.x kernels used. I don't know if current 2.4.x kernels support it. I have an Asus A7V600 with the same onboard NIC. At the time, the sk98lin driver (9.x IIRC) was alpha quality and provided poor thruput. So I used a d-link NIC I already had. This is no longer a problem tho, the 3c940 is well supported. In any event, should you choose to, the onboard nic can be easily disabled in bios. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:49 am, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 02 December 2004 10:29 am, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: > > I'm running mdk 10.0. Will I encounter the same problem I > > could experience with 10.1? > > Yes, in order to get GLX running with a video card that has an > nvidia chipset, you have to run the binary nvidia drivers > available from either the Mandrake commercial packs, Club or > directly from nvidia. You are using the free GPL driver called > nv, that does not support 3D acceleration. This is the last time I'll try to correct this misinformation. The OSS 'nv' driver does indeed support GLX. What it does not do is DRI (direct rendering). This has been the case for a few years now. Mandrake 9.1 IIRC. tom $ less /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Section "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "nVidia Corp." BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)" Driver "nv" ^^ tom $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.1) OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_two_side, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess <> -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CD-burning
On Thursday 25 November 2004 04:44 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > Hello friends, > > I have experienced something strange, after upgrading to 10.0 > from 9.1 my CD/DVD-writer has stopped being reckognised as a > SCSI-device, cdrecord -scanbus gives me this info: > > scsidev: 'ATA' > devname: 'ATA' > scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 > Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. > Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code > version (warly-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.80-mdk '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c > 1.80 04/03/08 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) '_NEC' 'DVD+RW ND-1100A ' '1.80' > Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) * > 1,2,0 102) * > 1,3,0 103) * > 1,4,0 104) * > 1,5,0 105) * > 1,6,0 106) * > 1,7,0 107) * > > there are no /dev/sg after what I can see in the treesystem and > no /dev/scd0 either, interestingly enough it seems that /dev/scd* is no longer used. 2.6.x kernels no longer use scsi emulation. Make sure you are using udev by running (you might need to do a 'urpmi udev' first) tom # service udev status udev is running [ OK ] if not, run 'service udev start' and try again. Then 'urpme devfs' and remove any devfs=mount statement from lilo.conf (or you can change it to devfs=nomount ) Then. > X-CD-Roast seems to reckognise the burner as a burner but > refuses to burn with it. Gnometoaster just give me the > errormessage to do the scanbus. I suspect I am missing > something somewhere, but I am not sure what...or maybe I do, it > seems also that I have a append = "hdc=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf No, remove that from lilo.conf and run 'lilo' after all the above edits. > as well, I am at a loss here > > /Anders Run 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' You might see it recommended to use 'dev=ATAPI' but that is deprecated already. 'dev=ATA' is the more correct form. Eg, here's mine; tom # cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 # Warning: Using ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Use dev=ATA:X,Y,Z or dev=/dev/hdX # Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (warly-Mandrakelinux-scsi-linux-sg '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.83 04/05/20 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'TEAC' 'DV-516E ' '3.01' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R PREMIUM ' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * Notice my burner is 1,1,0 So; cdrecord -v -eject speed=24 dev=ATA:1,1,0 ... is my basic form for burning CDr's. speed= can be omitted and your burner should try an use it's fastest speed, but I'd suggest you use 1/2 of the lesser; your burner's speed or the media you use. My burner is 52x, and I use 52x media, so I burn at 24x. Notice from the "Warning:" that I could also use the form 'dev=/dev/hdc' (burner is primary on the 2nd IDE channel). I'd recommend usin 'dev=ATA:X,Y,Z' You might also have somethin like this in /etc/modprobe.conf # This file is autogenerated from /etc/modules.conf using # generate-modprobe.conf command install scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe sata_via; /bin/true You could have this if you'd done a fresh install. Since you upgraded you can try running 'generate-modprobe.conf' That will try to convert your existing modules.conf (2.4.x kernels) into a suitable modprobe.conf (2.6.x kernels). Backup your existing modprobe.conf first. Either way you might need a line like this with the appropriate driver for your burner. (Mine is 'sata_via' for an IDE/SATA combo VIA mobo). I'm not positi
Re: [newbie] Do newest flat screen (non-LCD) monitors work on Mandrake?
On Friday 12 November 2004 05:40 pm, Wojciech Podgórni wrote: > Hello everyone! > I have a hardware question for you. My aunt is buying a > Plug'n'Play flat screen monitor for her Mandrake 10.0 computer > and I am worried if it would work on that system. The rest of > the hardware is quite old - GeForce 256 DDR video card, old > Pentium Celeron motherboard, slow processor (but much RAM), > etc. The problem is that Mandrake hardware database is quite > incomplete and it lacks some of the newer hardware. The > question is: > Is Mandrake going to work with the newer Plug'n'Play monitors > such as SAMSUNG 17" - 793 DF ? Should I expect any problems? > Thank you in advance for any answer. > Wojciech Podgórni I have a Samsung 19" -191N. It works very well with either the generic LCD driver, or lately they (Xorg) added many Samsung vendor specific drivers. I'm also using it with a GeForce card, and the opensource 'nv' driver. I've had it quite a while, it's great! I'd say the only important item would be to run the monitor at it's 'native' (vendor suggested) resolution. For mine that's 1280x1024 @ 75Hz -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] libreadline.so.4 error
On Tuesday 02 November 2004 07:18 pm, Elliot Somers wrote: > I am trying to install mdbtools-0.5-1.i386.rpm I am running > mandrake 10.0. the error that came up was > "mdbtools-0.5-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied libreadline.so.4)" > That it cannot install because it cannot find libreadline.so.4 > I have the libreadline4 package installed in my system so I > don't know what it's talking about. Any help I'd appreciate. > Thanks, > Elliot Dunno, you should have it. FWIW, this is on a 10.1 system tom $ rpm -q --whatprovides /lib/libreadline.so.4 libreadline4-4.3-7mdk You might try installing the devel package. It could be that on 10.0, the lib files were packaged separately in -devel tom # urpmi -y libreadline4 The following packages contain libreadline4: libreadline4 libreadline4-devel -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is mandrakelinux-release-10.1-1mdk.i586.rpm?
On Sunday 31 October 2004 02:49 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Sunday 31 October 2004 12:43 pm, Sevatio wrote: > > The only file in the 10.1 OE's update folder is: > > mandrakelinux-release-10.1-1mdk.i586.rpm. What is that rpm > > used for? > > To update the file /etc/mandrake-release To be more concise, it changes the word 'Community' to 'Official'. NBFD ;) tom $ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting
On Sunday 31 October 2004 01:34 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote: > Hi, > I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install > is working 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let > go of any cdrom once I view it's contents in Konq. > As root, I get the error Does 'eject /dev/hdc' get the CD out? > umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy This is the problem > It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab > follows > > /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1 > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto ~~ > umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 > 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0 > /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat > umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc > defaults 0 0 > /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 > > Does anything seem out of place? > > tia, > Bill W. Did you try exiting from all konqueror instances first? You're _not_ using supermount. 'auto' in your fstab for this device means auto file system detection, not auto mount. Somethin is holding on to the device. Run 'lsof /mnt/cdrom' to find out. (You might have to 'urpmi lsof' first). If lsof just returns to a prompt, nothin is using /mnt/cdrom at that time. FWIW, I don't remember when 'magicdev' began, or whether 10.0 used it. See if '/usr/bin/magicdev' is present by running 'which magicdev'. I've had some intermittent problems with CD drives being 'busy', usually after somethin like ripping a DVD with dvd:rip. 'fam' (an xinitd process) is most often the culprit. Since it's not a separate service, you'll need to kill it's pid. It will still run again 'on request'. I hate to say it, but sometimes only a reboot will free the CD drive. Magic device in 10.1 is better, but still has occasional glitches like yours. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Reguarding reply-to and the gmail address
On Sunday 31 October 2004 08:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:04, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > FWIW, I use Kmail and simply tapped the 'L' key to reply > > to the list. The 'R' key would've replied only to you Amy. > > If I chose to use a mail client without this simple feature, > > the responsibility to reply properly is still mine. > > The fact that Mandrake mangle the reply-to makes us lazy ;-) > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 'L' key only work if > you sort mail into folders and set the 'list' parameter in the > folder properties? > > Anne No, keyboard tasks are the default. I don't sort mesg's by folder. If you look on the drop down menus on the tool bar, the keyboard commands for Message and Edit are shown for each item. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (OT) Reguarding reply-to and the gmail address
On Saturday 30 October 2004 03:50 pm, Amy wrote: > Then I suppose it's time to bug the gmail team. Very weird > though, considering it's let me select a blank field for the > replyto address. Oh well, I'll bug them about it now. Thanks > for checking for me though. ^_^ Well, I replied to the list just by replying to your post Amy. The "Reply to:" problem is not just the responsibility of the original poster. It is also the responsibility of those that reply, to do so properly. FWIW, I use Kmail and simply tapped the 'L' key to reply to the list. The 'R' key would've replied only to you Amy. If I chose to use a mail client without this simple feature, the responsibility to reply properly is still mine. Several replies stating: > > not fixed, still goes to Amy So that is both Amy's problem and those who don't properly reply. Complaints about top posting, lack of snipping, spam, and 'reply to' . only serve to generate more bandwith waste. Y'allsMMV -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 05:15 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > ..there's even smaller which > fit on a credit card CD (<50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation > membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;) Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members) book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, "Free Culture"? Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the book. For those that don't know what we're talking about, visit http://www.gnu.org/ and please consider becoming a Associate Member. Your MandrakeLinux is Linux (the kernel), but the rest of it (99%) is GNU software. They need your support just as much as the Mandrake Club does. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:42 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing > > around in /boot and lilo ! > > > > Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident > > errors. But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. > > So no go here. Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel. > > Hopefully that'll change things to the better. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Are you running devfs or udev? > It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will > then be disabled. You can check anytime... tom # service udev status udev is running [ OK ] you can check for devfsd with 'service devfsd status' which will return a "usage:" warning. This means devfs is not being used. To be on the safe side, you can put 'devfs=nomount' in your bootloader (lilo's append line). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up > > problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive > > into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the > > system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a > > hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho > > > > Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel > 2.6.8.1-10 ? -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a difference with my SATA/IDE mix. Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 02:00 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > > Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end > > result as a clean install. There should be no difference > > other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to > > reinstall packages that are already up to date). > > > > But history has shown repeatedly, at least for Mandrake, that > > this is _not_ true. Perhaps Stephen Kuhn, Hoyt Bailey, or > > others will pitch in here with their personal experiences > > (based upon which I have never even attempted a version > > upgrade, always a clean install). > > > > I also suspect the first response back from any bug report > > will be "Have you tried a clean install of 10.1 Official?" > > You're probably right, but after 2 installs of it I just > can't bring myself to start yet again - at least not just at > this moment. > > Anne IIRC the only anomaly you reported Anne was cpufreq errors in boot logs. I meant to respond, sorry. I had the same. Cpufreq is used for laptops to control power usage and heat thru manipulating processor speed. On a desktop, just 'urpme cpufreq' As to the "Digital camera kills MDK 10.1" deal, I don't have a USB camera (mine's serial), but I suspect the problem might be solved by tryin a different kernel. I believe Stew said much the same. I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk. I've got a hunch the 'camera' problem is similar. Just a suspicion tho -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Comparing md5sums in 10.0
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 04:56 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 10:18 +0100, John Richard Smith wrote: > > Then, making sure the CD you just burned isn't mounted: > > > > in terminal, > > dd if=/dev/scd0 bs=2048 count=n | md5sum - > > (note the " - " on the end, don't leave it off. > > > > change the /dev/scd0 to whatever device setting your > > drive is on your system. > > and where n is the number of sectors calculated above. > > > > All 3 md5sums should agree, > > ie, the published, your iso file, and the CD. > > If they don't agree you have either a duff write, > > or duff iso file. > > > > Hope this helps you, > > > > John > > `md5sum /dev/scd0` works fine here, no matter if the CD is > mounted or not. > > Adolfo Yes, but in newer Mandrake versions the CD drives are seen as dev=ATA:0,0,0 I use 0,0,0 for example only, 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' will return the actual numbers. The ATA device (burner) is linked to the numbers. EG, on my system dev=ATA:1,1,0 => /dev/hdd So 'md5sum /dev/hdd' returns the md5sum on the CD. BUT, it will not be correct unless you use the -dao option when burning the iso to CD. I burn on the CL using, 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao ' _Do_Not_ use options like -pad or -data. For speed I suggest 1/3 of the lesser capability, your burner or media speed. My Plextor is 52x, media is 52x, so I use speed=16 Actually I use an alias, alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao' So simply 'biso ' does the job! ... and I always check the md5sum of the burned CD. As always, I disdain the use of GUI apps for burning any kind of CD's, but particularly for .iso images. Use the CL and you'll know exactly what is going on. Y'allsMMV ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] dvd:rip - sound tracks
No problem using dvd:rip to rip and trancode DVD's to .avi files I can burn to CDr's. MOF, I'm surprised how well it all works, and the .avi CD's are near DVD sound and video quality. My question is about DVD's with multiple sound tracks. Ususally two in english, and one in french. Is there an easy way to tell before transcoding which english track is the movie sound track, and which is (usually) a track that describes the making, production of the movie? I invariably get it backwards and have to stop and transcode the other english track. For example, the DVD I'm rip/transcoding now has three tracks, 0: en - ac3 48000 6Ch, 1: fr - 48000 6Ch, and 2: en - ac3 48000 6Ch. When I started the transcoding process, I guessed that track 2: was the movie sound track. It was on a previous DVD I processed. But, a while into the transcode 2nd pass proccess, I used mplayer to preview what had been completed (about 80mb, 5%) of the .avi file created so far. Sure'nough, it was the commentary track. So I had to cancel and re-start trancoding using track 0: Two hours wasted again ;( -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Security maniac ?
On Friday 22 October 2004 06:30 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > I just followed Tom's advice and upgraded to the present > cooker, including the (separate) install of the new kernel. > Everything seem to work perfectly. So, now I supposedly run > the upcoming 10.1 Official - right ? Yes, and if you did it after last Thurs., you have a few updates. Now cooker hasn't unfrozen quite yet, but will soon. So delete your cooker sources and switch to 10.1 mirrors now. > Just after that I received the usual alert from Mandrake about > security updates. OK. But when comparing those update > versions to my "cooker" versions, mine seems to be newer. > > Can anyone explain ? - Tom ? > > Kaj Haulrich. The newer files almost certainly have the security (and bug) fixes. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where have all the kernel source gone ?
On Thursday 21 October 2004 05:32 pm, Margot wrote: > Dan Gordon wrote: > > On October 21, 2004 05:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > >>Yes, Dan. Go to easyurpmi.zarb.org and get some cooker > >> sources. There you will find 2.6.8.1-12mdk and its source > >> rpm. This will be in 10.1 Official, I believe. > >> > >>Anne > > > > Ahh ok I never thought to look on cooker, silly me ;-) > > But wont that put 10.1 into a cooked sorta state, I dont > > wana wreck things too quick. > > Thanks Anne > > > > Regards, > > Dan Gordon > > Dan & Anne, > > Up until yesterday, cooker was the correct place to find 10.1 > updates, but (as per Warly's message about 12 hours ago) the > 10.1 Community mirrors now carry the updates for 10.1 > Community. > > Don't use the cooker sources any more unless you want to end up > running cooker! You can still get away with updating 10.1 CE to Official using a cooker mirror. Probly for a few more days to a week. Yes, there's been a few updates past 10.1 OE on the mirrors (yesterday) but they were minor. IIRC, kdepim*, lm_sensors, and a few minor packages. Most likely updates that will be available for 10.1 OE anyhow. BUT, do it _now_! Cooker will unfreeze and begin 10.2 development shortly. As to Dan's misgivings, using 2.6.8.1-12 kernel and kernel-source from a cooker mirror will not pose a problem on a 10.1 system. This kernel has been in use for quite some time and is well tested. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [URGENT]OpenGl
GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.1 Isos
On Wednesday 06 October 2004 05:31 am, Alexander Ruoff wrote: > I have a problem with the Iso-Images I have for 10.1. I > downloaded them with Linux and burned them with K3B. However, > when updating the 2nd CD failed. First I thought that it must > be something related to the update from 10.0 to 10.1 and made a > clean install but than the 2nd as well as the 3rd CD failed. I > downloaded two new Isos with Windows and burned them with Nero, > but again, the 2nd CD failed. > > I managed to install 10.1 nicely within a couple of hours > installing everything via urpmi (it was fun even though time > consuming due to the fact that I needed gcc to compile the > 855wrap and had to remember all the names of the software I > wanted). > > Anyway, I still want to find out why those Isos I made didn't > work or if this problem happened to some other people as well? > > Regards > Alex In the directory you d/l'd the iso's to, run 'md5sum -c name_of_the_md5sum.asc'. You did also d/l the md5sum file right? If that's OK's the d/l'd iso's, after burning check with 'md5sum /dev/hdc' (assuming hdc is your cdrom). If the md5sums then don't match, you have a problem burn**. Most likely asscociated with the GUI you used (k3b). **If you have a separate Cdrom and burner, try checking (and installing) from the burner. They are often better readers than CDroms, DVDroms. Don't use a CD-RW, use CD-R media. Windoze apps like Nero, and Linux GUI's like k3b often corrupt the iso by misuse of cdrecord parameters. If you suspect this, then burn the iso file with somethin like 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao Name_of_file.iso'on the command line. You'll probly have to adjust your speed and dev from mine. The most important bit is -dao. Do not use parameters like -data or -pad. Bottom line is until you get the iso's to match md5sum before and _AFTER_ burning ... you don't know if you have bonafide CD's. If you still have an install problem, hopefully it'll be fixed by 10.1 Official ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Monday 20 September 2004 09:04 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Monday 20 September 2004 07:05 pm, Scott Mazur wrote: > > The ISOs could be distributed to many more reliable mirrors > > where highband width is a planned feature easily accomodated. > > and extremely expensive. Yes, prohibitively so. Fact is, for those that don't have highspeed connections or don't wanna fool with the torrents Websites like cheapbytes and others do, and they're some of the first to grab the CD's. EG, Cheapbytes has 10.1 CE 5 CD sets available right now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conversion from text to a spreadsheet format
On Saturday 18 September 2004 01:04 pm, Margot wrote: > Paul Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:33:38 -0400, Carroll Grigsby > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Paul: > >>Oh, well, you tried. BTW, this time it came out as > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > If someone on the list has figured out a way of loosing the > > reply-to address with GMail, please let me know it. > > > > Paul > > No idea how to permanently fix your problem, but, for the time > being, why don't you put the *list* address in the reply-to > field? That might work if Paul only sent email to this list, and didn't have any friends ;) Paul, the problem is not just your responsibility. Persons replying to your posts can force a reply to the list, or to you. I replied to this post by hitting the 'L' key ('R' would reply only to you {lower case l's & r's}) in Kmail. However the 'reply to' is set, that forces a reply to the list. Other email clients have similar functions. If they don't... don't use 'em. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 community on bittorrent = slow
On Saturday 18 September 2004 02:20 pm, JoeHill wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 14:02:12 -0500 > > Dennis Myers disseminated the following: > > > Dont use torrent??? > > > > Good suggestion, but I have not found the mirrors with just > > the iso's and thus bittorrent is the only way at the moment. > > I usually have had very fast response on bittorrent. : P > > I don't have a lot of experience with BT, but could it be > merely that there are not many 'sources' yet, ie. people who > have already downloaded the files and are sharing them out? > > Once more people download more of the files and continue to > share, the speed should pick up, no? No, the problem was only with CD1-3. CD's 4 & 5 download at full speed. The problem with 1-3 was at the Club server. It was fixed about 13:00 UTC today (Saturday). I'll keep uploadin 1,2,3,4,5 for about 8 days til I need to go out of town. Torrents depend on those who have succesful d/l's to keep uploadin. BTW, check out KDE3.3 on CD5 ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Rootkit Hunter
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 12:35 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > On September 14, 2004 07:37, Tom Brinkman wrote: > ... > > > urpmi rkhunter > > I have contrib defined (using proxad.net, b/c all the North > American mirrors seem to be unreliable), but urpmi rkhunter > gives me "no package named rkhunter". I tried a search for "rk" > and one for "hunt" too, in case the spelling was slightly off, > but there's nothing that resembles rkhunter showing up. Mea culpa. Since it's just a "noarch" script, I thought it would be available for all Mandrake versions. I didn't check. Anyhow, you can get the 10.1 CE version here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/contrib/rkhunter-1.1.6-2mdk.noarch.rpm It should work on any Mandrake version. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] kernel-265 or later
On Sunday 12 September 2004 01:13 pm, Johan Sch wrote: > On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:59:36 +0100 > > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 12 September 2004 07:17, Johan Sch wrote: > > > On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:35:04 +0100 > > > > > > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Saturday 11 September 2004 23:04, Johan Sch wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:13:09 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday 11 September 2004 08:24, Johan Sch wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need to update to the latest kernel for mdk10.0. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please any site where latest kernels compiled for > > > > > > > mdk10.0 could be found. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > I just realised you are looking for kernels later > > > > > > than 2.6.5 The update mirrors will not have anything > > > > > > later than 2.6.3 The mirrors for 10.1 have 2.6.8 > > > > > > kernels which may run OK in 10.0 but it cannot be > > > > > > guaranteed they will. > > > > > > > > > > > > derek > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could try them if I can locate them. > > > > > Could only find the iso's but no kernels. > > > > > Please. Would appreciate the URL to this kernels. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-dev > > > >el/10.1/i586/med ia/main > > > > > > > > derek > > > > > > > > -- > > > >*** > > > > > > Hi Derek, > > > > > > Thanks for kindly providing the above. > > > Seem some changes to install kernel has taken place in > > > 10.1. Downloaded the kernel. Required some dependencies. > > > Downloaded that. Too many conflicts. Do not want to maybe > > > cripple my system. At least I tried. Regards > > > > Yes thats what I was afraid of. > > You never said why you needed a kernel later than 2.6.5 > > Is there some kind of hardware support you need? > > > > derek > > ** > Yes. Some problems with harddrive. Tech staff at . testdisk . > utility suggested I should upgrade to a later kernel with > CONFIG_EDD activated. Regards *** # # Firmware Drivers # CONFIG_EDD=y *** That's a paste from /usr/src/linux/.config for the latest Mandrake kernel, 2.6.8.1-10 If you're current kernel's .config (in /boot) shows CONFIG_EDD=y then 'tech staff' is wrong. Otherwise.. Install the kernel-source rpm for your kernel if it isn't already. Search it's .config and and if the line looks somethin like# CONFIG_EDD is not set , remove the leading hash (ie, uncomment the line) and edit it to CONFIG_EDD=y Save that .config to a another, eg, .config.save ... and after moving it back into .config after the 'make mrproper' (mandatory) first step, then 'make oldconfig' and continue with the steps to compile a new kernel. make && make modules_install && make install The last step is only fully productive if you first edited Makefile before compiling, changed the EXTRAVERSION = (new_name), and uncommented the line (about 460 somethin), exportINSTALL_PATH=/boot Then the files and links needed are created in /boot, lilo (and grub) is edited and run for you to make the new kernel an option on boot. Your new kernel will not be the default, you'll have to choose it on booting up. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HHGTTG - Tertiary Phase
On Sunday 12 September 2004 01:04 pm, David Johnson wrote: > Wow! I can't wait for this! > > To answer your question (at least to provide some more > information), I notice that there are links to download the > preview in MP3 format. I can only assume that they will offer > the same when the series starts...? Actually I'm hopin for .flac's, or at least .ogg's BTW, I listened to the new preview, but the original was available in mp3's. Which mp3_check said had many errors, couldn't fix, cdrecord wouldn't accept .wav's made from them for audio CD burning. DRM? Anyhow the mp3's played fine. tom $ l hitch/ episode.guide.txt Part02.mp3 Part05.mp3 Part08.mp3 Part11.mp3 hitch.txt Part03.mp3 Part06.mp3 Part09.mp3 Part12.mp3 Part01.mp3 Part04.mp3 Part07.mp3 Part10.mp3 readme.txt Sorry I forget, no longer have, the ftp link I got 'em from. Somebody on the OT list posted it. For those that don't know, the six hour fantasy, albeit reality, of the Hitchhiker is worth any effort to get it. If the new version is that much different, I'd still think the original would be better listened to first. FWIW, the video preview is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/mp3/hitchhikers_video.mov (PLF mplayer does it nicely) > On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:27:50 -0400, Charles A Edwards > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:13:16 +0100 > > > > Derek Jennings wrote: > > > Now the question is. How can I record a real audio stream? > > > RealPlayer 10 plays the preview stream OK, but I cannot > > > persuade mplayer to play it. > > > > xine handles it without problem for me > > > > Charles -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days
On Friday 03 September 2004 04:06 pm, Chris wrote: > Sep 3 14:18:21 cpollock sensord: SYS Temp: 40.0 C (limit = > 49.7 C, hysteresis = 39.9 C) > Sep 3 14:18:21 cpollock sensord: SBr Temp: 26.0 C (limit = > 65.4 C, hysteresis = 59.9 C) I forgot to deal with this in my last reply. For your board, SYS is your chipset, SBr can be taken as your case temp. 26C is 79F, and that should be close to, but a touch higher than your ambient room temperature. Which it appears to be so. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days
On Friday 03 September 2004 04:06 pm, Chris wrote: > On Friday 03 September 2004 09:50 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > SYS = SBr On most all boards the SB temp is from a > > thermistor at or very near the boards main chipset. The > > warmest part of your motherboard. Usually taken from a pin > > on the chipset. Normally around 40C, should stay under 45C, > > but 50C would be the upper limit. Mine'll hit 46C running > > cpuburn's 'burnK7' (extreme load), CPU is in the upper 50C's > > at this point, also an upper limit, with ambient room temp > > around 80F. > > From the googling done, SBr is the southbridge chip, but, as I > said earlier I don't know what its function is. South bridge is part of the Mboard's chipset. EG, VIA KT600, nForce2, SiS M741, etc. As to function, start here http://computer.howstuffworks.com/motherboard.htm and keep lookin ;) Basically the chipset (north&south) bridge, is just that... a bridge between the CPU and other parts of the system. > Sep 3 14:18:21 cpollock sensord: CPU Temp: 46.9 C (limit = > 59.9 C, hysteresis = 55.1 C) > Sep 3 14:18:21 cpollock sensord: SYS Temp: 40.0 C (limit = > 49.7 C, hysteresis = 39.9 C) > Sep 3 14:18:21 cpollock sensord: SBr Temp: 26.0 C (limit = > 65.4 C, hysteresis = 59.9 C) > > These are reported twice an hour with logcheck and emailed to > me. That's fine, but if you're temps are in the normal range, which yours are for an Athlon, you really only need to monitor them while under heavy to extreme load. EG, using mprime's torture test './mprime -m, choose 17' http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm in one console, start another and run 'sensors' frequently to monitor temps. At least till they stabilize at an upper limit. This is a very good stress test and is a first step if hardware problems are suspected, eg, system lock ups, freezes, random reboots, failed compiles (at different points), etc. FWIW, I use an alias to display CPU, SBr, and HDD temps alias sc='sensors | grep Temp: && /usr/sbin/hddtemp /dev/hd[ab]' tom $ sc CPU Temp:+46°C (low = +35°C, high = +55°C) sensor = thermistor M/B Temp:+40°C (low = +20°C, high = +45°C) sensor = thermistor /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 62°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 38°C -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] System locks up every 10days
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 07:59 pm, Chris wrote: > > out. > > SYS Temp: +45.5°C (limit = +50°C, hysteresis = +40°C) > CPU Temp: +38.0°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) > > In 'F' Gkrellm reports these to be around 113 and 100, which to > me appear to be ok, although I may be wrong here. Read /etc/sensors.conf You appear to have one of the many boards that reverses temperatures. 45C is your CPU, 38C is your Mboard (chipset), SYS. You can fix it by editing sensors.conf, or just keep in mind that your temps are reversed. Both those temps are about right for moderate (normal) loads in relatively normal ambient (room) temp, 75 to 80F. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] xsessionerrors file growing
On Monday 30 August 2004 06:03 pm, warren wrote: > hi all, > > while trying to work out why i couldn´t burn dvds i happened to > check the .xsessionerrors file which wouldn´t open. > > Eventually i opened it with tail -f and it spewed forth: > > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372) > > and proceeded to do so at the rate of 3 or 4 lines a second. I > have just recently installed MDK 10 on a new HDD. > > Every day as soon as i turn my machine on the file starts to > grow, and although it only grows by MB or so an hour this cant > been good for things. > > Any ideas? I've only seen that problem in cooker 10.1. And cooker by nature of being updated several times daily, the problem was eventually fixed. In the meantime, as root, 'rm -f .xsession-errors', log out of KDE and then back in. A new, small .xsession-errors will be recreated. As root make it read only. Not a fix, but it will prevent the file from filling up your partition. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question
On Sunday 29 August 2004 05:28 am, Richard Urwin wrote: > On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: > > > > I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going > > > > for a while. > > > > > > > > I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just > > > > for the learning experience, and something has just > > > > dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a > > > > host system, how did the first linux system get built? > > > > > > > > In other words, how can I create something that needs > > > > itself to be created? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > /g > > > > > > On an i386 running minix as far as I remember. I'd have to > > > dig for links to the history but for some reason that > > > answer is stuck in my feable and fallible old brain. > > > > > > C. > > > > That's my recollection too Charlie. IIRC, Linus as much > > as said so, and asked the minix author if it was Ok for him > > to modify and distribute as OSS. Fortunately the answer was > > yes. > > Careful, that's SCO territory. There is no Minix code in Linux > and never was, so Linux needed no such permission, any more > than you needed Linus' permission to write your email. Andy Tanenbaum, 20 May 2004 [speaking of Ken Brown] "I told him that MINIX had clearly had a huge influence on Linux in many ways, from the layout of the file system to the names in the source tree, but I didn't think Linus had used any of my code." "Linus also used MINIX as his development platform initially, but there was nothing wrong with that. He asked if I objected to that and I said no, I didn't, people were free to use it as they wished for noncommercial purposes." http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/ Link is mainly about SCO and Ken Brown. But you're right to admonish me Richard for my sloppy memory and wording ;) Use of MINIX (ie, 'influence', 'layout') as Linus' '[initial] development platform' doesn't equal my term of "modify and distribute as OSS". Mea culpa -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] GZIP/GUNZIP
On Saturday 28 August 2004 01:36 pm, Eric Huff wrote: > > They are tar'd and gzipped. > > However, I do not seem to have a program in KDE to unzip > > them. > > At the command line you can tar -xvzf filname.tgz or whatever > it is called > > I made an alias for it since i use it a lot: > > alias untar='tar -xvzf' > > > eric Funny I find myself on the 'darkside' in this circumstance, but for tarballs I prefer to r-click and preview with Archiver (ark), then choose Extract to. Mainly cause it handles any kind of compressed files, even windoze .zips, if you have the proper decompress utils installed. Both it an FileRunner will even handle .rar's Tho I usually do those on the CL -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Burning files to a cd from the console
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 07:28 pm, Chris wrote: > On Wednesday 25 August 2004 07:32 am, JoeHill wrote: > > Some aliases you can add to your .bashrc once you get the > > hang of it (these are courtesy of the great command line CD > > writing guru Mr. Tom Brinkman): > > > > alias bdcd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 > > dev=1,0,0 -data' > > > > alias bacd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 > > dev=1,0,0 -pad -audio *.wav' > > > > alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 > > dev=1,0,0 -dao' > > > > alias mkcdimg='mkisofs -r -o cd_image' > > > > alias ripacd='cdparanoia -vB 1- /home//wav/' > > > > (watch the line wrap, each alias should all be on one line) > > Thanks Joe for posting Toms alias's. I've got a few of them in > use but I never did catch all of them. A few words of caution. 'bdcd' is currently alias bdcd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -data' ~ See the difference? I run cooker and I've been kept shuffled between scsi-emulation and ATA. Current 10.1 beta's have me back to ATA, which requires adjusting my aliases and editing fstab to point to the proper device (ie, scd* or hd*). 'cdrecord -scanbus' will alert you as to which to use. In some early implementations only 'cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus' will work. So try both. Much of the above (ie, scsi/ATA) is why GUI's often fail. Also, for anything but audio cd's an image must be made first, then burned. In the case of 'biso', you've probly already got an image (ie, iso) so just 'biso name_of.iso' does it. For data files, 'mkcdimg /path/to/dir/' makes an image of all the files in dir/. The image is named 'cd_image' and is created in the dir you run the mkcdimg command in. Then burn with 'bdcd cd_image' in that directory. 'du cd_image' must be less than 702MB's. Overburning is not advised (doesn't work anyhow ;) For audio CD's 'bacd' needs to be run in the dir the .wav's are in. I've needed to add -sao to do audio burns. To avoid errors when the total time of the wav's is close to 80 minutes. I believe this is due to a change in newer cdrecord versions. alias bacd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=24 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -sao -pad -audio *.wav' As to credit: Most all of my burning aliases were shamelessly stolen or adapted from examples in the CD-Writing-How-To and some other online sources. . out of disgust and frustration with GUI apps for burning ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake-Linux Beta 2
On Monday 23 August 2004 06:52 am, Lanman wrote: > zamri wrote: > > I thought that your "iso"s are corrupt. Have u check with > > md5sum ? > > Yup! ISO's were verified and passed OK. Any other ideas? Has > anyone been able to download and install Beta 2 ? I don't know > if the same problem would have occurred with an upgrade as > well, but this was a fresh install. > > Lanman Just checkin the d/l'd iso's isn't sufficient, you should also verify the burned CD's with tom # md5sum /dev/hdd (<-- my burner, CD1 in it) 469e937f91b8716c865d172ac0be09f8 /dev/hdd dl # cat Mandrakelinux-10.1beta2.md5.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 469e937f91b8716c865d172ac0be09f8 Mandrakelinux-10.1beta2-CD1.i586.iso c873f678d99c4f968d991dbfea71f01f Mandrakelinux-10.1beta2-CD2.i586.iso c71ff830c865bcb72160a53412938cca Mandrakelinux-10.1beta2-CD3.i586.iso Tho all my beta2 CDr's pass, I haven't used them. I suspect udev. Mandrake seems intent upon switching to it, and as of beta 2 you can't use both (ie, devfs and udev). I'm runnin a fresh beta 1 install, updated (now past beta 2) to current cooker. I lost my cd drives with udev, so I urpme'd it and re-installed devfs, edited lilo.conf to devfs=mount . Now they're again recognized as ATA: devices. You might try the install again, choosing devfs in pkg selection. (which should eliminte udev ?) ... or search 'udev' on the cooker ml archive or bugzilla for more (better;) info. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DVD unit Plextor PX-708A/SW-BL
On Saturday 21 August 2004 09:56 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Saturday 21 August 2004 09:09, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > On Saturday 21 August 2004 07:01 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > Apparantely I was wrong. The # that I assumed was the > > > firmware version is listed as TLA # 206. This number does > > > not agree with Bryan's number or the Plextor website which > > > shows 1.06 both of which agree. > > > > The most current version of the firmware for that drive is > > 1.07 IIRC. So, you might want to download the current one and > > upgrade. > > OK thanks I'll put it on the todo list. While reading this thread, I got curious about updating my cd-rw. Either 'hdparm -i /dev/hd?' or 'cdrecord -scanbus' will show the firmware revision number. Mine was 1.02, Plextor's site had 1.05, and the changelog cited improved write support. So I got these files from their ftp site. PremiumV105.bin pxupdate-1.38-i686-pc-linux-gnu* PXUpdate.txt (the bin came in a .zip file, but ark handled it) According to the .txt readme it all seemed pretty well straightforward. Boot to init 1, and run the updater. So I did, but at lvl 1 the OS couldn't find /dev/sg*. I halted and then booted to lvl 3, cd'd to the dir in /home/tom/ I had the above files in, and ran (as root), ./pxupdate-1.38-i686-pc-linux-gnu dev=ATA:1,1,0 -l which correctly found my burner. Then I ran, ./pxupdate-1.38-i686-pc-linux-gnu dev=ATA:1,1,0 PremiumV105.bin which gave me a warning that I should be in lvl 1, but asked, continue y/n? I chose 'y' and the flash was successfully completed in a few seconds. tom # hdparm -i /dev/hdd /dev/hdd: Model=PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM, FwRev=1.05, SerialNo=115897 Nothin to it, easy as pie ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 10:30 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:25, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Thursday 19 August 2004 05:19 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: > > > Thereidos wrote: > Ok Tom I'm confused while using 2.6.3-7 I was using nvidia > driver confirmed in /etc./X11/XF86Config-4. Glxgears reported > 300 to 600fps in 5 sec when the gears were minimized it went > over 1000fps in 5 sec. When I switched to 2.6.3.15 glx gears > wont even run and the nvidia driver is nv in Config-4. I don't > play any games that require accel, maybe pysol once in a while. > Is there any reason for using 2.6.3.15? The real question is do you need the proprietary driver? Actually I'd suggest the newest kernel you can find for your system. Even if you have to compile a cooker rpm from kernel-source. Later 2.6.7 (higher version level) should be good. The 2.6.8's are a little new right now (low version levels). YMMV I suspect glxgears won't run either because the line Load "glx" # 3D layer is commented out (disabled) in XF86config or. since you had the proprietary drivers previously installed on the system (you have uninstalled them, right?), nVidia's installation removed Xfree's mesa files/dirs. If that's the case you'll need to urpme all xfree (or xorg) rpms and the reinstall them..or You could just use 'rpm -Uvh --force' to put them back in over the existing pkgs. That will also replace missing files/dirs that nVidia fsck'd with. Do either of the above at a level 3 prompt (no X running). If you've nVidia tainted that 2.6.3-15 kernel, you should either remove and reinstall it, or just use --force to replace kernel files and pkgs. > Ok I don't need nvidia but there are flashes 3/4" bars running > through my desktop now with nv and 2.6.3.15 that wernt there > with nvidia and 2.6.3-7. Might be related to missing files/dirs, nVidia taints above? OTOH, it could be overstreched hardware. What you see on the monitor is the result of the video card, motherboard, and monitor working together. The result will be no better than the weakest link. Run 'ddcxinfos' to see your hardware specs, what it is capable of and the suggested modelines. A lot will depend on if your monitor has EISA info, so look for a line like mine tom # ddcxinfos | fgrep -i eisa 20.85 inches monitor (truly 19.31') EISA ID=SAM0080 If you see somethin similar, go ahead and run 'ddcxinfos |less' Another common mistake people tend to make is running at too high a resolution and/or color depth (bpp). Going back to EISA above, mine is a 19" TFT that both Samsung and 'ddcxinfos' says maxes out at 1280x1024(Samsung-) x24(nVidia- limitations). It will run at 1600x1200, and as a matter of fact that's what a Mandrake fresh install suggests..but that's overreaching. Particularly since many video and monitor vendors tend to overstate hardware specs. HTH, but I haven't touched nvidia proprietary drivers in years, and I've never had any issues with the 'nv' driver ..so I might not be the best one to help. I really just butted in here to correct the common misconception that xfree (xorg) doesn't support acceleration and OpenGL. It surely does ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 05:19 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: > Thereidos wrote: > >I'm not sure but those built into the kernel are something > > like generic video drivers. They doesn't handle so called > > 'acceleration' (OpenGL thing). Am I right? No, on both counts. The drivers are not 'built-in' to the kernel, they're in /lib/modules/* and /usr/lib/* > >As for the NVidia installer I haven't got any problems with > > that. You just have to remember to turn your X server off and > > run it as a root (and try to read carefully :)). > > And if'n you get it right you'll see the nVidia splash screen > when either rebooting or firing up your X . > And Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga is correct. The generic driver > doesn't support OpenGL. OpenGL is required for glxgears and the > like to actually run, though if you installed it correctly you > ought to hear sounds and see the start 'page' , before you give > up on it. [ I guess I need a new graphics card.. bugger!] The open source xorg (or previously XFree) driver for nvidia cards does support OpenGL (and has for well over a year). It's DRI (direct hardware rendering) that is not yet supported. And due to the legal entanglements of licensing agreements video vendors have (primarily with M$), xorg might never have DRI support. tom $ lspci |grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) (using xorg's open source driver) tom $ glxinfo |grep -i open OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.4 Mesa 5.0.2) tom $ glxgears 806 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.200 FPS (nothin to brag about but it does run ;) The _only_ thing you need DRI for is 3d/accel games. Video apps like xine, totem, mplayer, etc., do not need 3d/accel, and I even think they work better without it. IMO, if you can do without games that require DRI, you're better off _not_ using nvidia (or any video card's) proprietary drivers. Y'allsMMV, but it is inaccurate to say that the open source drivers don't support video acceleration. They do, and you don't have to fret with the bugs, security issues, and kernel taints and problems that closed source drivers introduce to your system. lkml won't even accept bug reports when closed source drivers are in use. IMO Mandrake shouldn't either as they are by nature of being closed and proprietary, unsupportable and at best, beta quality. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] boot log...
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 12:48 pm, Anguo wrote: > On Thursday 19 August 2004 01:11 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > dmesg > dmesg.txt > > Thank you Ronald and Hoyt for the quick reply. > > Unfortunately, I cannot find the message I was looking for. > > A power cut crashed my computer. So during bootup, there was > a message about files being deleted during /home/ fsck. I > cannot find a reference of what files were deleted... I doubt any were, specially if you're using a journaled file system. Which you should be doin. > I > have a backup, but I need to know what to backup (some > config files less screw up my kde..)... > > Any idea? 'dmesg' is a binary that gives current messages. I believe what you're lookin for is 'cat /var/log/dmesg |less' which will gives you the mesgs from when you last booted. The mesgs you're lookin for won't be there tho. Without knowing what type(s) of file system you're using, you'll just need to look around in var/log/ and it subdirectories for what you want. I'd use 'mc' to do that. Caution tho, warnings are not errors. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Boot disk
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 04:22 pm, Roy Babin wrote: > How can I create a boot disk? Followed the manual for > Mandrake10. but cannot create one. Any Help appreciated. Thank >Roy You can use your first CD or you can make a CD. The kernel and needed files are much to big to fit on a 1.4mb floppy. 'mkrescue --iso' (from 'man mkrescue') " Create an ISO-9660 bootable CD image (El Torito Format) suitable for burning to a CD-R or CD-RW. The --device specification defaults to the filename "rescue.iso", and the --size defaults to 2880. A utility such as cdrecord may be used to burn the ISO file to a recordable CD medium." -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Dumbest question ever asked
On Saturday 14 August 2004 04:40 pm, CHARLIE M wrote: > Please excuse this weird looking message, if it is. I'm stuck > on the web interface because the last update to cooker did > strange things to the system. Or maybe it's all PEBCAK? lol > > Charlie > Just had this conversation OT. So I'll paste it in Wait till Monday or Tues. Cooker mirrors sometimes are fubar'd, specially on weekends. Currently proxad is only showing me a problem for kdelib* updates. BUT, what packages you encounter will of course vary from mine, as it's doubtful we have all the same ones installed. If the problem persists too long you mave have to find a different mirror. A guide is here http://cookermirrors.skycon.net/and is currently showing problems on several mirrors. For my kdelib* deal I used a browser this mornin to bring up the mirror, and sure enough, even tho the mirror is up to date, and the hdlist is in sync, a few files are missing. In cases like this, Mandrake's central internal server probly hasn't sent them to public mirrors yet. That often happens late on Friday. FWIW tho, since we're talking about cooker if you encouter an update with a lot of packages, specially libs and sys files, it's a good idea to runalias upall='rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig -v'to make sure your system is in sync with the updates. Then logout and back into your WM. I always do a while log'd out to restart the X server, which also auto-log's me back into my desktop (KDE). . Charlie, come over to the darkside. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Auto-completion for the command line
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 09:06 am, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > Is there some program to provide auto-completion for the > command line (bash)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul 'urpmi bash-completion'(??) Adds back in funtionality that those that are smarter than us think is useless ;( -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL Dialer
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 10:24 am, Alan wrote: > stupid question. > > Is there a gui based dialer for linux to connect through a > pppoe connection? > > I currently use adsl-connect. > > Thanks You should be usin 'adsl-start', -connect is for problem connections and only will kill it. Anyhow... The gui is rp-pppoe-gui It's on your CD's To run it, type 'tkpppoe' as root to set it up, after that you can use it as user if you select that option during setup. The rpm will also install a menu item named Tkpppoe under Internet | Remote Acess (KDE). Personally I find it easier to start/stop the connection from the CL usin aliases to save typing. Mostly I just leave it up 24/7 bringing it down only for system shutdowns (kernel change). alias dsl='adsl-start' alias dsld='adsl-stop' Just because these commands require root privilege, doesn't mean you're online connected as root. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Package list help.
On Sunday 01 August 2004 09:38 am, RickS wrote: > Try this, > It came from this list a year ago or so and I made it an > alias > > alias lrpm='rpm -qa | sort > > /home/ricks/rpmlist-`date +%d%m%y_%I%M`.txt' > > it will add the date to the file list. > > HTH > RickS Thanks! That's a much better solution than I posted -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Package list help.
On Saturday 31 July 2004 01:05 pm, Dennis Duffner wrote: > > Would this do what you want? > > > >'rpm --rebuilddb' (as root, to make sure it's current) > > > >'rpm -qa | grep -i mdk > mkd_rpms.txt' (txt file of all > > currently installed Mandrake rpms) 'rpm -qa | grep -i plf > > > plf_rpms.txt' (same for PLF) > > > >'cat mkd_rpms.txt plf_rpms.txt > all_rpms.txt' > > > > That should give you a list of all currently installed > > rpms. I usually do it for PLF only, so I've got a list to go > > by after a fresh install to replace PLF packages. If you've > > got others, like Charles' 'cae' rpms, just add that step into > > the mix. > > > >BTW I use an alias to save typing (alias frpm='rpm -qa | grep > > -i') so just 'frpm plf > plf_rpms.txt' does the deal. Well, partner share the script with the list :) Yeah, shortly after I hit send it occurred to me that adding 'sort' would make the result more useful. or there was a more elegant way to to this chore. Maybe newbie can show 'expert' and 'cooker' a useful tool ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Package list help.
On Saturday 31 July 2004 04:39 am, Lanman wrote: > > The reason I made the suggestion was because I couldnt find > > rpmpkgs. I just looked again and found 2 of them. Sorry if > > I caused any difficulty. > > No problems here Hoyt. I'm still on the trail of that file > though. If you were to launch the software remover in MCC or > KDE's Kpackage, you would see the list of currently-installed > packages. That's the list that I'm after but I'm after the > actual list. > > MCC's rpm remover and Kpackage both access a database or two of > installed packages, and generate the list that you see inside > of themselves based on that database. I just can't find the > database. Once I do, I can start harassing the list about how > to extract the list from that database. > > Fun, Huh? > > Lanman Would this do what you want? 'rpm --rebuilddb'(as root, to make sure it's current) 'rpm -qa | grep -i mdk > mkd_rpms.txt' (txt file of all currently installed Mandrake rpms) 'rpm -qa | grep -i plf > plf_rpms.txt' (same for PLF) 'cat mkd_rpms.txt plf_rpms.txt > all_rpms.txt' That should give you a list of all currently installed rpms. I usually do it for PLF only, so I've got a list to go by after a fresh install to replace PLF packages. If you've got others, like Charles' 'cae' rpms, just add that step into the mix. BTW I use an alias to save typing (alias frpm='rpm -qa | grep -i') so just 'frpm plf > plf_rpms.txt' does the deal. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:29 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: > > > Hi Hoyt, > > > No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is > > > that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use > > > urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of > > > internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of > > > the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :(( > > > > I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can > > get online dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time > > used. DSL is 29.95. > > There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of > competion like we do. > > Regards, > Dan Gordon The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are sort'a useless. 256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for $21/month. 1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49. 8Mb DSL (not asynchronous, dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to businesses. Several other options. Only with accounts more than $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC). To check your actual speed http://www.dslreports.com/stest My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up on a good day. Just like with dialup (56kbps), you'll never get the full theoretical speed. IOW's 1278 is about right for my 1500 connection. And you can't divide by 8 (bits per byte) to get the actual KiloBytes per second. 'urpmi' displays KB's/sec and I generally get 155 to 160 K/s from mirrors. I've got a newsgroup feed that sometimes gets me near 170KB/s, but more often in the 165K/s range. So a lot depens on the server to connect to, and the hops in between. To put this in perspective, a good 56k dialup will yield about 4.7 K/s. So my DSL is about 35 times faster than the best dialup, but for 4 times the cost. On the plus side, aDSL has POTS (voice phone line) piggybacked on and I can download at 160KB/s and still talk on the phone. Tho phone service is a separate charge, just as it is with dialup. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sympatico gives their clients the Microshaft!
On Monday 12 July 2004 01:37 pm, Lanman wrote: > Speaking of free, has anyone else been to > http://theopencd.sunsite.dk ? Or am I the only one who knows > about it? Nice ISO file with an easy to use install GUI for > anyone trying to get Windows users to switch to Free software. > > Nuff Said! > > Lanman I've been d/l'g new releases an makin CD's for those that are willin for a few years. Few takers, even fewer who actually used the CD's to install anything. Most all of which were victims of M$ viruses, but hopelessly cling to IE, and Outlook Express. I usually try'n give 'em a Knoppix CD too. I'm firmly convinced the 90% of clinging M$ users are just that hopeless. One new laptop user (HP with XP) didn't even last a few days before he was infected. He refused the Knoppix CD sayin his owners manual warned not to try and use Linux on it. But when challenged, he couldn't find that part, admitted he just 'heard that'. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CD playing? :-\
On Wednesday 07 July 2004 02:19 am, Frans Ketelaars wrote: > On Wednesday 07 July 2004 05:52, John Layt wrote: > > While we're on the subject of CD playing, my sisters > > motherboard doesn't have connectors for the analog cable > > (damn Win-centric machines), so I have her using Kaffeine as > > default for CD and DVD playing (Totem has been removed so I > > have a consistent KDE-only desktop to support by phone). Of > > course, putting in a CD causes MagicDev to start up KsCD, > > which gives no sound. Any quick tips on making MagicDev run > > Kaffeine instead? > > > > I know, I could do some digging myself but it's often quicker > > to get the answer here... > > > > John. > > An audio CD does not contain a file system so it isn't mounted. > In KsCD just click on the icon with hammer and screwdriver -> > CD player and uncheck autoplay when CD inserted. > > HTH, > > -Frans Another solution: as root, 'urpme magicdev' followed by 'supermount -i enable && mount -a' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] .bashrc
On Friday 02 July 2004 07:03 am, EE wrote: > How to reload .bashrc after it has been changed i.e. adding > aliases Simply close that console after saving the edit to bashrc, and all subsequent consoles you start will have the new alias. Tip, while you've got bashrc open and the new alias edited in, the file saved At that point start a new console and check that your new alias works as you want, expected it to. If it does, then close the original console/editor. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resolver random results.
On Thursday 01 July 2004 12:18 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > I forgot one thing Hoyt. SBC (at least here) requires I > > use my email address as my UserID. EG, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of as rp-pppoe suggests, > > just tbrinkman. > > I noticed that my tag line on the terminal changed to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]$ > I suspected that was my user ID provided by sbc, (in dot > notation). 67.65.249.187. Yahoo accepts the email address. > -- > Regards; > Hoyt Which makes me suspect your entire network is misconfigured. The only time my bash prompt got changed such as yours was early on in my DSL experience (2 years ago). Even then I had always edited /etc/bashrc to eliminate 'localhost' from my bash prompt. [ "$PS1" = "\\s-\\v\\\$ " ] && PS1=" \W \\$ " I knew there was somethin wrong when I got a promtp like yours, and my dsl connection was fubar'd at the same time. Maybe you've got hostname screwed up somewhere along the line? I don't fool with it because it can break so many things. There's several hands on this list that would be better at helpin you than me. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resolver random results.
On Thursday 01 July 2004 10:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > Yes, "Everything just happened" for me. Other than some > > initial problems when I first got DSL while usin 9.0, > > Mandrake (cooker) installs have always configured eth0 for me > > after I input the info during the install, and most all of > > the entries I leave blank, or at default. About all I enter, > > IIRC, is sbcglobal.net, my user ID and password. I don't > > start the connect at boot, and I believe that is the default. > > > > Then a rp-pppoe run of 'adsl-setup' to answer about a half > > dozen questions. One of which one is to enter DNS, I just > > type 'server' and DNS is automagically obtained from > > sbcglobal.net. Often after recent fresh installs (/home is > > saved), I don't even need to re-do a 'adsl-setup' > > > > I avoid usin Mandrake's 'drakconnect'. I believe recent > > Mandrake versions install rp-pppoe when you choose 'adsl' > > during install anyhow. > > -- > > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > Proud to be an American > > Thanks for your advise I know all of ppp is installed but I > dont think its being used. > -- > Regards; > Hoyt I forgot one thing Hoyt. SBC (at least here) requires I use my email address as my UserID. EG, [EMAIL PROTECTED], instead of as rp-pppoe suggests, just tbrinkman. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Quick Time codecs
On Thursday 01 July 2004 09:54 am, Cezary Morga wrote: > Hi. > Where I can find quick time codecs to run .mov files on xine or > mplayer? http://plf.zarb.org/ click on 'Packages', choose your Mandrake version. This site has everything Mandrake can't include for legal reasons. I also suggest you switch to the PLF xine and mplayer versions. They have capabilities Mandrake can't include (legal reasons again). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resolver random results.
On Wednesday 30 June 2004 12:28 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Wednesday 30 June 2004 11:21, Tom Brinkman wrote: > My data: From sbcglobal.net. > Primary DNS address 151.164.1.8 > Secondary DNS address 206.13.28.12 > Question: Where do I put it so rp-ppoe or DNS of whatever does > it will put it in '/etc/resolver.conf' because if I put it > there directely that whatever overwrites it. > > > > > tom $ cat /etc/ppp/resolv.conf > > I dont have an /etc/ppp.resolv.conf mine is /etc/resolv.conf. /etc/ppp/resolv.conf you should have one. I have no idea ^^ why one wasn't created, but it should have nameserver 151.164.1.8 nameserver 206.13.28.12 ... in it. AFAIK, /etc/resolv.conf is a file generated by the binary file, /etc/resolv.conf.tmp As I said, I think you need somebody more knowlegeable about all this than me. I only thought I might be of help since I also use sbcglobal.net and they seem to do things a little differently than many other DSL ISP's. > > DEVICE=eth0 > > BOOTPROTO=static > > Back during 9.x development, Mandrake > > developers told me this didn't make sense, but now it's the > > Mandrake default, at least the fresh installs I've done > > since. > > What file is this information in? /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth? (where ? = 0 or 1) > > > IPADDR=10.0.0.10 > > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > > NETWORK=10.0.0.0 > > BROADCAST=10.0.0.255 > > ONBOOT=yes > > MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=no > > ^ that's for a very well supported > > D-link 530 TX+ card. You might try setting this to =yes > > (which means MII will be disabled). > > > > I suspect you've got some LAN misconfigure(s), but I > > can't go there. Never done it. > > It wouldnt supprise me because I dont have a LAN and have no > understanding of same. Everything just happened. Yes, "Everything just happened" for me. Other than some initial problems when I first got DSL while usin 9.0, Mandrake (cooker) installs have always configured eth0 for me after I input the info during the install, and most all of the entries I leave blank, or at default. About all I enter, IIRC, is sbcglobal.net, my user ID and password. I don't start the connect at boot, and I believe that is the default. Then a rp-pppoe run of 'adsl-setup' to answer about a half dozen questions. One of which one is to enter DNS, I just type 'server' and DNS is automagically obtained from sbcglobal.net. Often after recent fresh installs (/home is saved), I don't even need to re-do a 'adsl-setup' I avoid usin Mandrake's 'drakconnect'. I believe recent Mandrake versions install rp-pppoe when you choose 'adsl' during install anyhow. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resolver random results.
On Tuesday 29 June 2004 03:13 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Tuesday 29 June 2004 10:00, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 June 2004 07:03 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > On Tuesday 29 June 2004 06:44, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > > > Your problem seems to be in the name server 192.168.0.1 > > > > > > Ok any ideas what I can do about it. Apparantly that was > > > installed by 'sbcglobal.com' at least I suppose it was. > > > >run 'dig sbcglobal.net' and look for somethin like > > > > ;; SERVER: 151.164.79.201#53(151.164.79.201) > > > >That's mine, 151.164.79.201 from sbcglobal.net, > > Southwestern Bell access. > > > > I have this in resolv.conf, automatically put there by > > rp-pppoe > > > > tom $ cat /etc/ppp/resolv.conf > > nameserver 151.164.79.201 > > nameserver 151.164.11.201 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# dig sbcglobal.net > > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> sbcglobal.net > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63240 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, > ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;sbcglobal.net. IN A > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > sbcglobal.net. 6291IN SOA ns1.swbell.net. > postmaster.swbell.net. 200406251 3600 900 604800 7200 > > ;; Query time: 21 msec > ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) > ;; WHEN: Tue Jun 29 15:01:26 2004 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 89 > > A slight problem that address is my dsl modem. At least when I > put it into mozilla I get the modem. It is also the address in > '/etc/resolv.conf'. As someone (probly more knowledgeable than me) alluded to, 192.168.x.x is not a valid DNS. You could try my sbcglobal DNS numbers in your resolv.conf (?) Or 'urpmi whois' and see what it spits out for NS* numbers. Probly be a good idea to 'urpme tmdns' or at least stop that useless trouble causing service. Also, tho my DSL connection is dynamic, this seems to work better: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static Back during 9.x development, Mandrake developers told me this didn't make sense, but now it's the Mandrake default, at least the fresh installs I've done since. IPADDR=10.0.0.10 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.0.0.0 BROADCAST=10.0.0.255 ONBOOT=yes MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=no ^ that's for a very well supported D-link 530 TX+ card. You might try setting this to =yes (which means MII will be disabled). I suspect you've got some LAN misconfigure(s), but I can't go there. Never done it. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resolver random results.
On Tuesday 29 June 2004 07:03 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Tuesday 29 June 2004 06:44, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > Your problem seems to be in the name server 192.168.0.1 > > Ok any ideas what I can do about it. Apparantly that was > installed by 'sbcglobal.com' at least I suppose it was. run 'dig sbcglobal.net' and look for somethin like ;; SERVER: 151.164.79.201#53(151.164.79.201) That's mine, 151.164.79.201 from sbcglobal.net, Southwestern Bell access. I have this in resolv.conf, automatically put there by rp-pppoe tom $ cat /etc/ppp/resolv.conf nameserver 151.164.79.201 nameserver 151.164.11.201 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Next LM version
On Monday 28 June 2004 08:36 am, EE wrote: > When is the next version comming out? http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrakelinux101 -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New box No Joy
On Friday 18 June 2004 04:47 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 18 June 2004 05:12 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > ->My apologizes I was consumed with an excessive fatheadness. > I ment 105F ->when my amd 2100 gets there it becomes unstable. > > Gotcha. Thats about on par with what I see here as well. I > should have recognized that you meant F instead of C, so I'm > sorry about that too. I just kept getting this mental image of > my CPU at 105C...(meltdown!). > > :-) 105C to 110C _internal_core_temp_ is the AMD spec'd failure temp. Read that as 'fried forever'. Bios temps aren't very useful. The system has just booted an is under low load. As Ron mentioned earlier, and AMD docs support (overclockers have long known), the actual core temp is 10C to 20C hotter than the temp you see in bios or from lm_sensors. It is afterall, an external contact temp from a probe. 45 to 55C for current XP's is normal. Just keep in mind the actual internal core temp is closer to 60 to 75C. If you see less than 40C from a probe, the report is bogus unless you're usin a water cooler. Case coolin IME is more important than fancy dan cpu coolers. Also run fans at 100%, forget the variable speed gimmicks. Use of thermal grease rather than pads is mandatory. I've seen Volcano's mentioned in this thread. I favor them (Volcano 11+, 4800rpm big fan) because they're easy to keep clean. Avoid coolers that have many close together vanes. They're impossible to keep clean, tho they work just as well when new. Hoyt, 122F = 50C, so your processor should not be unstable at temps of 105F. If the readings are accurate, it probly means you've enabled slowin the fans down when the cpu isn't under load. The fallacy there is that cpu core temp and load can spike up instantly heatsinks by the nature of their mass, take a long time to cool to respond. On most laptops this is a necessary evil. Don't do it with a desktop, certainly not with a server. One more thing. cpu's that have been run hot ... don't heal. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dvd/cdrw
On Saturday 05 June 2004 05:06 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:06:08 -0400 > > Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 05 June 2004 05:02 am, Lee Wiggers wrote: > > > What progs are recommended for dvd viewing? I know, I > > > should have paid attention. > > > > Both mplayer and Xine will work fine. Get the plugins from > > PLF though so that you can get past the CSS encryption. > > > > -- > > Bryan Phinney > > Software Test Engineer > > I am overwhelmed. I took out the old drive, with instructions > provided by the vender, plugged in the new drive, booted, ran > automatic config prog (said ok), started kde, put in a dvd, and > the movie came on the screen. > > I'm beginning to see why the newbie list is down to 100 a week > instead of 100 a day. > > Noatun or somesuch started, so fiddling is in order, but I > can't imagine that happening just a short time ago. > > Then I took out the dvd and put in an old 9.2 disk. The drive > immediately mounted. I clicked on the new icon and konq jumped > up with the directory. > > I closed the directory and took the disk out. Drive unmounted > and icon went back to iconland. > > Makes me want to change something else. Right now. > > I do have a free CDRom drive available if anyone needs one. > It's a Samsung cd-Master Model SN-124, very low mileage. > > If nobody wants it, I'll put in the closet with years of > yesterday stuff waiting for somebody to break one before it's > obsolete. > > Lee DVDroms are _very_expensive_ in my experience. My old CDrom drive expired, so I replaced it with a Teac DVDrom, $36. Then $400 of DVD's later .. ; Then I also need to replace a perfectly good 17" CRT monitor (15.8" viewable), with a $650 19.3" viewable LCD monitor ;))) Then I replaced a perfectly good VCR with a $100 DVD/Vcr player for the TV, an bought a surround sound speaker system for the TV. Similar to the one I already had for the computer. All in all I reckon that damn $36 CDrom to DVDrom replacement cost me well over $1,200. I just gave the old stuff to friends or Goodwill. Seriously tho I usealias dvdp1='mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/scd0' I also have dvdp2,3,4,5,6... to view other tracks on the DVD. This is all with PLF-mdk versions of mplayerhttp://plf.zarb.org/ Currently mplayer-1.0-0.pre4.5plf Main reason I advocate usin mplayer on the CL is because, unlike GUI's, contrast, brightness, tint, color levels, sound volume are instantly adjustable on-the-fly right from the keyboard. Just tap 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8, or 9-0. Some DVD's start, the sound is goin, but the screen is completely black. Tapping the 'f' key twice immediately restores full screen video. Plus no damn GUI window frame. Just tap the Space-bar to pause, arrow keys (<- or ->) will goback or advance the movie. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Old LInux Kernels
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 07:45 am, The Other wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 2004 12:39:38 -0500, Tom Brinkman > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Use 'rpm -qa | grep -i kernel' to list installed kernels, > > then 'urpme kernel-x.x.x' to remove all of of the one(s) > > you want to remove. Example: > > > > So if I wanted to remove all files of 2.6.5-1.tmb, > > including it's lilo entry, I'd su to root and type > > 'urpme kernel-tmb-2.6.5-1.tmb.5mdk-1-1mdk' > > > > (use copy'n paste to avoid typos). > > Tom, > > I know this method will work if you installed a kernel rpm with > urpmi. > > But will it also work if you compiled the kernel from it's > source tarball? > The Other No, and that's just another reason vanilla source shouldn't be used for kernels. All bits and files will have to be removed by hand. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Old LInux Kernels
On Monday 31 May 2004 12:07 pm, Steve wrote: > Yes I know which ones I do not want but, don't know where they > are located. It is just one file per kernel? No, an just don't delete the kernel. You'll still be stuck with many files, as in /lib/modules/ Use 'rpm -qa | grep -i kernel' to list installed kernels, then 'urpme kernel-x.x.x' to remove all of of the one(s) you want to remove. Example: tom $ rpm -qa | grep -i kernel kernel-2.6.6.0.rc3.1mdk-1-1mdk kernel-tmb-2.6.5-1.tmb.5mdk-1-1mdk kernel-sds-2.6.7-0.rc1.1.sds.1mdk-1-1mdk kernel-2phoenix-2.6.6.1mdk-1-1mdk kernel-tmb-source-2.6.5-1.tmb.1mdk kernel-sds-2.6.7-0.rc2.1.sds.1mdk-1-1mdk So if I wanted to remove all files of 2.6.5-1.tmb, including it's lilo entry, I'd su to root and type 'urpme kernel-tmb-2.6.5-1.tmb.5mdk-1-1mdk' (use copy'n paste to avoid typos). Make sure you're not removing a kernel that is currently your (lilo) default kernel and that you're currently using the one you want to keep ('uname -r'). If you have kernel-source installed, remove that with urpme also, as above. Kernel-source and modules removal will yield the most disk space. Kernel files in /boot take up very little space. In any event 'urpme' will clean up the whole deal. > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mandrake Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [newbie] Old LInux Kernels > > > On Tue, 2004-06-01 at 02:51, Steve wrote: > > > How do you get rid of old kernels once you have loaded a > > > new one and determine it works? Also how do you remove old > > > versions from the LILO Screen? I have limited space and > > > want to clear out as much old stuff as possible. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Steve > > > > Just delete the kernels you don't want...do you KNOW what > > kernels you don't want? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] rar
On Thursday 27 May 2004 08:31 am, PM wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 13:03, Paul Kaplan wrote: > > What program can be used to unpack .rar archives and where > > might I find it? Paul > > unrar > > can be used with file-roller You'll need to cp, link or rename the binary first. I just 'cp /usr/bin/unrar /usr/bin/rar' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 10:33 am, Todd Slater wrote: > For ape what you want is mac, which will encode/decode apes. > > Todd I did the suggested edit to All.h, ie, enable #define BUILD_CROSS_PLATFORM but it still won't 'make' Source $ make make: *** No rule to make target `MACLib/NNFilterAsm.nas', needed by `MACLib/NNFilterAsm.o'. Stop. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 10:11 pm, Todd Slater wrote: > ape is another lossless codec, and you can use it on Linux. > From the homepage you have to visit the developers page I think > and you can find the source or links to a binary; also search > the forums. There's also an xmms plugin for ape, but I usually > decode them to wav and convert to flac on general principles. > > I couldn't get the most recent ape 3.99 to compile so I'm using > 3.96; you might find some apes made with 3.99 that 3.96 can't > decode. Which sucks. Download one file and try it first. > > > So... criticise my flac conversion, ogg2wav, an give me > > some help with monkeys ;) There's some stuff on ... > > lossless.country I'd like to try out > > OK, I did your homework for you: > http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~pfk/mpp/index2.html#ape > > Todd ;) I got that file yesterday (precompiled 'mppdec' for linux), but haven't had much luck with it. I was hopin some of y'all knew of better options than an app targeted to Windoze users. But thanks. Guess I'll try the source code at www.monkeysaudio.com as Charles noted, or the source at your link Todd. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] apes and flacs, I'm a dummy
OK, I can deal with flacs. I installed tom $ frpm flac gstreamer-flac-0.8.1-3mdk flac-1.1.0-5mdk <<-- libflac++2-1.1.0-5mdk liboggflac1-1.1.0-5mdk libflac4-1.1.0-5mdk usin 'urpmi flac' [cooker sources, on a cooker 10.1 system] (actually 'flac' was all that was installed, seems I already had the other bits). I've been usin it usin as 'tom $ flac -d -8 *.flac *.wav' (??'s) in the dir the *.flac's are in. CD's produced from those (normalized wav's) files are impressive. So are the d/l size of flac files. Four or more times the size of correspondin mp3's. No wonder they sound better than store bought CD's. Ogg's, no problemo. Got a perl script (ogg2wav) and made it a+x, put it in /usr/bin along with flac. Tho the resultin Cd's aren't all that much noticably better than mp3's normalized to wav's an burned to CD's. BUT, I'm at a loss with .ape's. Google only has me more confused. Other than to point out it's mainly pointed at Windoze machines/OS. So... criticise my flac conversion, ogg2wav, an give me some help with monkeys ;) There's some stuff on ... lossless.country I'd like to try out -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] arrrrggggggg
On Saturday 22 May 2004 12:36 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > Would you do me a flavor? In the interests of Science? To > test this theory of mine, that this is perhaps germane to the > video card itself, would you turn on system bios shadowing, but > leave video shadowing off, and see if your system remains > stable. I'm curious. > > If in fact you've already tried this, just let me know. > Otherwise, I'm all ears. > > LX FWIW, video shadowing is generally OK. Enabling further bios shadowing is NOT. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange Activity
On Saturday 22 May 2004 05:20 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Sure, but if someone feels an obligation to pay a little dough, > I suggest a donation to the Free Software Foundation : > > http://member.fsf.org/ > > Makes one sleep better, laugh louder and cry less. > > Kaj Haulrich. Been an associate member for years. Money well spent. I see Novell, RedHat, and particularly IBM are helpin with GPL defense/ enforcement too -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI on Mdk 10.0
On Thursday 20 May 2004 09:36 pm, Ramon PS wrote: > Hi there. > > I couldn't enable ACPI on my recently installed > Mandrake Linux Community 10.0. In Grub I have tried > some options, namely: > > acpi=on > apm=off acpi=on > acpi=force The first one, acpi=on, is an invalid parameter. The second, if you infact did use them together has the affect of acpi=off The third is to be used cautiously. Simply having no acpi statement in kernel parameters should enable acpi as it's the kernel default. > However, the kernel hangs and issues the follwoing > message: > > ACPI: subsystem revision 20040211 > spurious 8295A interrupt: IRQ7 > looking for DSDT in initrd ... not found! > ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger > > The only option accepted at boot time is acpi=ht, > but neither acpi nor acpid are running, and the cpu's > fan noise bothers a lot! acpi=ht turns off acpi, but allows for hyperthreading (Pentium 4's). If you have kernel-source installed read tom $ locate kernel-parameters.txt /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.tmb.1mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt ~ for listing and explaination of valid kernel parameters. IE acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface Format: { force | off | ht | strict } force -- enables ACPI for systems with default off off -- disabled ACPI for systems with default on ht -- run only enough ACPI to enable Hyper Threading strict -- Be less tolerant of platforms that are not strictly ACPI specification compliant. See also Documentation/pm.txt. > > My machine is an HP Pavillion ZE4430US, CPU is an > AMD Mobile 4 2400+ (1,8GHz). > > Any tips would very much appreciated. > > Regards, -rps I know nothin of laptops other than not all laptops support acpi as used in Linux kernels. So your search should be whether your Pavillion does or not.... or just try it. Remove any acpi reference in grub, and check /var/log/dmesg after boot (if you can). tom # cat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i acpi BIOS-e820: 1fffc000 - 1000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 1000 - 2000 (ACPI NVS) ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS) @ 0x000f62a | (snip) | PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing apm: overridden by ACPI. ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mkbootdisk to usb zip and cd
On Friday 14 May 2004 09:42 am, Thujan wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that #mkbootdisk doesn't fit on floppy > no more, because 1.44mb isn't enough space . > How do I make bootimage to usb zip or/and cd-r? > In cd it had to be iso-image doesn't it? > But what about in usb zib, I mean pen drive. > > Thank you, 'mkrescue --iso' (from 'man mkrescue', should be provided by lilo) --iso Create an ISO-9660 bootable CD image (El Torito Format) suitable for burning to a CD-R or CD-RW. The --device specification defaults to the filename "rescue.iso", and the --size defaults to 2880. A utility such as cdrecord may be used to burn the ISO file to a recordable CD medium. I dunno if this image would also be suitable on a zip drive, but you can always just try it. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Thursday 13 May 2004 05:21 pm, John wrote: > Thanks Tom and Derek for your replies. Haven't been able to > connect to the internet to check mail until today. Had to > borrow a connection. Followed your advice in first email,tom, > and cd works. Great! > Have to get modem up now. It is a > conexant/riptide modem and sound system. Linuxant put out > drivers for modem and sound card for 9.1,9.2 and everything > worked fine. When I upgraded nothing worked even after > installing the new driver. Have requested help from linuxant > but if anybody has any ideas, I would appreciate help on > getting connected first and then the sound. I also have a us > robotics usb modem if that would be better to use. I may need > to replace the sound card also to avoid future problems. Anyway > thanks for all the help. John Just so you'll know I'm not avoiding you, I've never used a winmodem or one that needs a driver. Sorry, can't help. I'd suggest you close this thread and start a new one appropriately titled to the problem. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 12:50 pm, John wrote: > > Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms > > Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line > > for your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this > > > > /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto > > umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec > > 0 0 > > > > Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi > > in order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove > > any reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run > > lilo -v to write the boot sector. > > > > derek > > Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload > for ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice > temporary as Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to > ide-scsi for IDE CD devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel) > is already back to it. > > Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last > minute' change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme > on it an then runnin 'supermount -i enable' && 'mount -a' > Supermount is mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known > problems. I find supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x > kernels to be flawless. > >Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off > or removed is tmdns. > > John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers > suitable for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects > the correct device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe* > files to be certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host > adaptor. I'm sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't > accurately reflect the device connotations. If my advice > doesn't work for you post the results of > - 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd* > - Your /etc/fstab file. > - 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' > - Your modprobe* files > > Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r') > and the above to the list before makin any changes. > > Tom > -Kernel version=2.6.3-7mdk IIRC, that kernel uses ATA, and not ide-scsi. Newer kernels do use ide-scsi (later 2.6.5 and now all 2.6.6) > -Fstab:/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > - None /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > -/dev/hda6/home ext3 defaults 1 2 > - /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask =o,user,iocharset=iso8859- > 1,codepage=850,ro,exec 00 You don't have supermount for your cd drive. If you want it, just run 'supermount -i enable' It knows when and when not to mount CD media. Make sure your cd drive is in fact the primary drive on the 2nd ide channel (hdc). > -none /mnt/floppy supermount > dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage= >850,uma sk=0 0 0 > -none /proc proc defaults 00 > -/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 > -modprobe: -options i810fb xres=800 hsync1=32 hsync2=48 > vsync1=50 vsync2=70 vram=2 bpp=16 accel=1 mtrr=1 >-install scsi_hostadapter ; /bin/true ^^ >-install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe usb-uhci; > /bin/true Remove or comment out (#) all ide-scsi and scsi_hostadapter references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload. Might as well take any out of modules.conf, even tho your 2.6 kernel doesn't use it. Back up any files you make changes to before you edit them. You might just need 'em later if you install a newer kernel. > The cdrecord -scanbus produced a long file. Included was: You need to use 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' After making all the changes above, it'd probly be easiest just to reboot. Your cd drive should then be working properly. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 and ogg decode to different sizes
On Sunday 09 May 2004 04:01 pm, Todd Slater wrote: > alt.binaries.sounds.ogg > alt.binaries.sounds.lossless > > But shhh. > > Todd Damn. Masha Danki Todd!! Never occurred to me to search those terms (ogg, lossless) OTOH, what'a fsck is a .ape or .flac ? Never mind let me do some experimentin... Thanks, Meantime (back at the ranch), Stream Tuner and Cowboy Cultural Society keep me fairly busy -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 and ogg decode to different sizes
On Sunday 09 May 2004 08:55 am, Aron Smith wrote: > > alias cpaudiocd='ripacd && normall && bacd && > > rm -f /home/tom/wav/* > > > > > > alias ripacd='cdparanoia -vB 1- /home/tom/wav/' > > alias normall='normalize -m /home/tom/wav/*' > > alias bacd='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=32 > > dev=1,0,0 -sao -pad -audio /home/tom/wav/*.wav' > > > > Note: I've found express path to be better than ~/wav/, > > when used in aliases. > > I've needed -sao to copy audio CD's that are close to the > > 80 min limit. I reckon it defeats -pad... but what'a heck, it > > works > > Tom we need you to write a how2 on this subject BTW got this > one? Moose Turd Pie get it here > http://www.utahphillips.org/utah.html I'll check it later, I'm hooked into the Cowboy Cultural Society stream (again) just now. My cd's sound better than theirs do tho, they've just got more'n me ;) How-to: As I've already admonished Twiki Anne; It's a movin target, varies with hardware, particularly now with the 2.4 vs. 2.6 kernels changes, and Mandrakes back'n forth moves in this area. I think order of usefulness is (least to best), hardware web sites, twiki's, web searches, cooker (or lklm, app associated) mailin list archives . hands on guru sittin next to ya. 'Sides, as my last quoted phrase suggests, I'm just treadin water tryin to keep up with changes too. Not all that hard for me to change and amend, for newbies with GUI dependancy it's got'a be a miserable mystery. I don't always get it right either. Charles and Tim are often there to help. As they are here too, as are several others, the OP Greg Meyers included. Sometimes I reckon y'all would be better off just run'n cooker and subscribin to those lists. You wouldn't have to put up with me ... near as much, horses mouth alerts and advice there. Probly the closest you can get to guru's and current advice ;> -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 and ogg decode to different sizes
On Sunday 09 May 2004 08:56 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 09 May 2004 09:44 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > ->Hell, I'm still tryin to figure out what y'all are talkin > ->about ;)Not to hijack, but I will since the original > query ->seems to be satisfied ;) > > I think he was referring to what the compression did to it. I > listened to what the link had and it was ugly. I had to crank > my Monsoon speakers almost max and listen a couple of times > before I figured out what it was. Same as me. I had to turn speaker volume (on the spkr system) way up to hear the difference. It wasn't recognizeable to me other than knowin the answer beforehand. I still don't understand the purpose of the exercise. I surmised tryin to improve quality, which is why I posted what 'works for me'. But I was sort'a fishin for critique/suggestions on my doins ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrom
On Sunday 09 May 2004 08:18 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Sunday 09 May 2004 13:28, John wrote: > > I have just upgraded to MD 10 official from 9.2. The cdrom > > was reconfigured and now it will not mount. It is a memorex > > cdrw. Would appreciate any help in getting it back up. > > > > Thanks > > John > > Mdk 10.0 now uses magicdev instead of supermount for cdroms > Check you have the magicdev package installed, and the line for > your cdrom in /etc/fstab should look something like this > > /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto > umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 > 0 > > Also in 10.0 the 2.6 kernel no longer needs to use ide-scsi in > order to write CD-RW so in your /etc/lilo -v file remove any > reference to ide-scsi in the append line and then run lilo -v > to write the boot sector. > > derek Removing references in modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for ide-scsi is also neccessary. Consider this advice temporary as Mandrake (current 10.1 devel) is goin back to ide-scsi for IDE CD devices. Early 10.1 (2.6.5 or .6 kernel) is already back to it. Contrary to the questionable Mandrake move, this 'last minute' change to magicdev for 10.0, I'd suggest doin a urpme on it an then runnin 'supermount -i enable' && 'mount -a' Supermount is mature, magicdev is alpha, and has known problems. I find supermount-ng as implemented in current 2.6.x kernels to be flawless. Another mistaken Mandrake move, but can easily be turned off or removed is tmdns. John, check that 'll /dev/hd*' return drives numbers suitable for your CD drives(s). Make sure fstab also reflects the correct device, ie, hd*, not scd*. Check /etc/ modprobe* files to be certain they don't call ide-scsi or scsi host adaptor. I'm sort'a thinkin your fstab (Mandrake bug) doesn't accurately reflect the device connotations. If my advice doesn't work for you post the results of - 'll /dev/hd*' and also /dev/scd* - Your /etc/fstab file. - 'cdrecord -scanbus' and 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus' - Your modprobe* files Come to think of it, post your kernel version ('uname -r') and the above to the list before makin any changes. Prepare to forget, undo/re-learn all this when you upgrade to 10.1, or a newer kernel than 10.0 came with. In fairness it's not all Mandrakes doin. Currently Linus and much of lkml is at odds with cdrecord and it's author. A fresh install rather than an 'upgrade from' probly would'a avoided the CD-RW problem tho. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com