ith HFCS, I have really large
> >>> spikes...something that does not occur with honey. Maybe there are
> other
> >>> factors involved as this was not a scientific study, but that has just
> been
> >>> my observation. I just try and avoid them wh
that if I consume something with HFCS, I have really large
>>> spikes...something that does not occur with honey. Maybe there are other
>>> factors involved as this was not a scientific study, but that has just been
>>> my observation. I just try and avoid them when possible.
Blood going to the digestive track instead of the brain and excessive
carbs also cause the body to produce melatonin, which makes you
sleepy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postprandial_somnolence
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Vivec wrote:
>
> What about falling asleep after meals? :-)
>
> On
What about falling asleep after meals? :-)
On 31 January 2012 20:32, Maureen wrote:
>
> One sure indicator of this is sweating after meals.
>
>
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HFCS 55?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Eric Roberts"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That is just my observation backed up by blood glucose readings
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Gruss Gott [ma
ry and avoid them when possible.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:29 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> Huh, I wonder what the mechanism is there assumin
en
my observation. I just try and avoid them when possible.
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:29 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Huh, I wonder what the mechanism is there assuming its HFCS 55?
On Jan 30, 201
gt; Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> How could that be?
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, "Eric Roberts"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I do see a difference with honey.
I want to find a good local source and make some mead :-D
-Original Message-
From: Sandra Clark [mailto:sclarkli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Dana,
I can totally agree with the local honey. For the first time
That is just my observation backed up by blood glucose readings
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
How could that be?
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, "Eric Ro
etener use stevia.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:08 PM, "Eric Roberts" <
> >>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
, Eric Roberts <
> > > > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually sweeting tomato sauce is common, but I have always said
> that
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > need
e can prepare quickly. These foods
> > > > > have high amounts of saturated fats and high fructose corn syrup
> and
> > > > > other products that lead to faster weight gain.
> > > > > These products tend to have more calories per serving. Healthy
&g
Posts happen on Tuesday mornings at 9:30 am. (since the blog is a labor of
love, it doesn't get the attention of a paying job). First post on GMO's
went up last week. The second in the series is scheduled for Feb 7th.
Sandy
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Great blog p
Great blog post! Would love to read the GMO articles as well
On Jan 30, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Sandra Clark wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric,
>
> I did write about the bulking agents in Stevia in the article, but didn't
> know about powdered extracts that are not bulked up. I'll have to check
> that out
ssg...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> You're right - here's the key point from wiki on table sugar:
>
> "In humans and other mammals, sucrose is broken down into its constituent
&
gt;
>>>>>
>>>>> HFCS are evil. I try to avoid them when I can, but it is pretty hard
>> to
>>>>> avoid them completely. We even, when we drink soda, make our own
>> using a
>>>>> Sodastream machine...their syrups have less sugar fo
ps thanks for the heads up on amino sweet and corn sugar, will keep an eye
out for those as well. Although I am getting to the point where I don't
want to eat anything processed at all, period.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sandra Clark wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric,
>
> I did write about the bulki
sweeten it. So if you are
> buying
> > > premade sauce, if it is sweetened, more than likely it has HFCS. I do
> > > watch the labels when I know it is going to do any good.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tie
Thanks Eric,
I did write about the bulking agents in Stevia in the article, but didn't
know about powdered extracts that are not bulked up. I'll have to check
that out. And you are right, I totally missed sucralose. I'll have to
revamp the article (or write a follow up), but unfortunately I'm d
you
>> > > need to sweeten your tomato sauce, you probably shouldn't be making
>> it.
>> > If
>> > > done right, it doesn't need anything to sweeten it. So if you are
>> buying
>> > > premade sauce, if it is sweetened, more than
HFCS. I do
> > > watch the labels when I know it is going to do any good.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > &g
I do
> > watch the labels when I know it is going to do any good.
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> &
I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause the massive spike
that even small amounts of HFCS cause.
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
You
sugar or
if I have a glass of "juice" that is sweetened with HFCS.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:55 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
nuh uh, been down that road and couldn't figure ou
:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Don't worry about HFCS ... Any more than any other sweetener that is.
It's just like cane sugar, beet sugar, maple sugar, agave sugar, etc etc.
They're all sugar: a mix of sucrose/fructose, usually about 50/50.
It's t
nd do not contain HFCS. Most of the time we just
> >>> drink Crystal Lite since that uses splenda rather than aspartame
> >> (something
> >>> that is also very evil). When I was first diagnosed with diabetes back
> >> in
> >>> 2000, I stopped
s also very evil). When I was first diagnosed with diabetes back
>> in
>>> 2000, I stopped drinking regular sodas and lost 50lbs in a few months
>>> without doing anything else.
>>>
>>> I generally make my sauce from scratch and I don't use meat in
else.
> >
> > I generally make my sauce from scratch and I don't use meat in it. I
> have
> > yet to hear a single critical word about it :-D
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, Janua
> yet to hear a single critical word about it :-D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> yeah, I gave the can away... don'
eally aggressive about it.
On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:33 PM, "Eric Roberts"
wrote:
>
> You obviously don't have knee or hip issues...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:42 PM
> T
:-D
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
> something that'
x27;t use meat in it. I have
yet to hear a single critical word about it :-D
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If
Corn Sugar...
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
yeah, I gave the can away... don't see the point. If I am going to eat
something that's not good for me, I ca
You obviously don't have knee or hip issues...
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
This point is key: the misinformation is rampant.
That said, when I got t
ed so I can get enough sleep. So it is not
very doable. If I were to work out right before bed, I wouldn't get much
sleep.
-Original Message-
From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Those are
com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed
> foods
> go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily organic,
s HFCS. I do
watch the labels when I know it is going to do any good.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting
Actually... I kind of agree with Sam on this oneThe TV, that is, not so
much Rush. But now I know I need a nice cup of tea or something, lol.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Sam wrote:
> > Dune, you need to stop watching TV it messing up
On Jan 29, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Sam wrote:
> Dune, you need to stop watching TV it messing up you mind.
Somehow that sentence makes me want to watch a LOT more TV.
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
>>> shit.
>
>> If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
>
> Maybe, but ive far exceeded any accomplishment he'll ever have in this
Before you said he's lazy and he doesn't have to work, yet he does.
He also lost weight and off the drugs.
Since you don't like him, probably because he's right more times than
you ever will be, you insult him by calling him a fatty. Do you not
see using that as an insult goes against the social
I don't think I said there is one right way, there isn't, but maybe it didn't
come across right.
That said it is conceptually simple: eat less than you burn and you will lose
*weight*. That's it.
Doing it - executing - AND optimizing for body composition while earning a
living, working on re
Gruss. This is not about me. I've lost 45 pounds this year, so I have an
idea what works for me. I have however had problems losing weight in the
past, sure, and have talked to quite a few people about theirs. Based on
that I tried to educate you a little, and ya, I should have known better.
II am
On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:12 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
> many forms of obesity are not just a matter of eating properly
> or exercising.
That is always said in a way that makes people think "like me". Bullshit.
Percentage-wise you've got a 99.99% chance of being fat because you know more
about
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Sam wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
>> shit.
>
> If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
Maybe, but ive far exceeded any
I think you nailed it Gruss.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Limbaugh?? The dude is super wealthy and he's STILL a fatty? He could
> afford the best chefs, the best equip, the best foods ...
>
> Come on, if that guy is a fatty (or an addict) then he's just one major lazy
t; gain as it lowers your metabolism. Pretty much any disorder of the
>> > pituitary/adrenal system will cause weight gain. Much of this is
>> > caused by some of the contaminats in our foods, like mercury and heavy
>> metals. So even if you have a healthy diet and exercise,
Also look at the contents of most fruit juices sold in the US - mostly sugar.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> I agree. It is much more complicated than drinking fruit juice. Drinking
> fruit juice isn't a weight-loss or a fitness plan. It's a drop in the ocean
> of what would n
However many forms of obesity are not just a matter of eating properly
or exercising. Also like in many places if you have not learned what
is healthy and how to balance intake with exercise etc., and all your
food choices are unhealthy ones, then chances of becoming obese is
very good.
The poin
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Sam wrote:
>> And, no, it didn't take me 5 years to "gain control". I had control the
>> moment I decided to take responsibility.
>
> Point taken. It took five years to achieve control. Better?
Not really.
The point is, if you have to work for a living, have kids
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
> shit.
If you're judging from one point in time than you and he are the same.
You were both overweight and then both did something about it. So your
"fat weak-min
Yes, I am judging them. Especially Rush, that fat weak-minded lazy sack of
shit.
And, no, it didn't take me 5 years to "gain control". I had control the moment
I decided to take responsibility.
As to your label-people dilemma ... No, I have no sympathy for you, and I
suspect nobody else doe
You just said it took you five years to gain control.
And Rush isn't fat. Why do you keep insulting him. Now we're back to
if they have money and are overweight they are a fat fucks and you are
much better than them.
You're judging people but as a social liberal you're supposed to
defend them. Ye
Sidebar: does anyone else think the medication "Dukoral" has an
absolutely hilarious name?
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> People didn't just get fat, so the "slack" is unjustified.
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> >
> > But he's not fat anymore.
> >
People didn't just get fat, so the "slack" is unjustified.
On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> But he's not fat anymore.
> Anyway, point is it's a major time commitment to shop constantly to
> keep wholesome foods in the fridge and to prepare them daily. Healthy
> eating is a lot of
With respect to your experience, you may be one of the small percentage of
people where best practices don't work. If you are, then your journey is
comparitively very difficult.
That said, I was complicated - at least to me :). It took me 5 years to figure
out the diet I responded too and I s
Sadly enough I know too many daddies that can't be bothered. Homework too.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Well God bless you for not giving up Sam. I wish more parents would arm twist.
>
> "because daddy said so, now grab your shoes."
>
>
~
But he's not fat anymore.
Anyway, point is it's a major time commitment to shop constantly to
keep wholesome foods in the fridge and to prepare them daily. Healthy
eating is a lot of work and if you're not in an area where it's
convenient it's worse. Not saying people shouldn't ignore the overtime
Well God bless you for not giving up Sam. I wish more parents would arm twist.
"because daddy said so, now grab your shoes."
On 2012-01-28, at 9:59 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Ha, and my daughter will say: "Do we have to play baseball again?"
>
> I keep trying different sports and did find a few sh
I didn't mean you specifically, I meant the parents that go to McD's
four times a week because the kids demand it. I can't imagine you'd
give in to whiny children.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> Umm... you mean with the kids? Don't think I did, actually, and in any case
> t
> it takes time to pop by the veggie stand every couple of days.
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Ha, and my daughter will say: "Do we have to play baseball again?"
I keep trying different sports and did find a few she likes but it
still takes arm twisting. Once she's out she always has fun with
daddy.
But most old men would give up.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Medic wrote:
>
>>
>>
It won't. Trust me, been there and it didn't.
I respond well to protein, few carbs, few fats. I respond well to fast
acceleration excercise, not steady state cardio. I know that from years of
experimentation.
But diet is 90%. If all people did was watch their diet they'd be fine. And
90%
Umm... you mean with the kids? Don't think I did, actually, and in any case
they turned out ok. Meant "fight" to represent the whole uphill battle for
healthy living, not parenting efforts.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Shouldn't be a fight is my point. If it is it's, you're
Fad
And I avoid wasting money on oraganics but I guess that's another thread.
Wild salmon is getting so hard to find and very expensive when you do.
I do like the veggies and nuts but it takes time to pop by the veggie
stand every couple of days.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Gruss Gott
>
> The parents need to fight the trend and be proactive in getting the kids
> outside.
The best way to accomplish this? Go outside WITH them. It's not enough to
say "go outside and play." Lead by example and all of a sudden the parents
AND the kids are a healthy weight.
~~
Shouldn't be a fight is my point. If it is it's, you're doing it wrong.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> hi Sam,
>
> Please re-read the last two sentences of the first paragraph. And have a
> nice evening.
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Sam wrote:
>
>>
>> You lost me. I
hi Sam,
Please re-read the last two sentences of the first paragraph. And have a
nice evening.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> You lost me. If kids are menu planning than they don't have a hope.
>
> McDonald's as a special occasion, random reward or the rare I'm too
> tired to
Who's saying go to the gym three times a week and only eat tree bark? Spend
20 minutes a day going up and down your stairs at a brisk pace. Spend 10
minutes doing push ups while the news is on. Stop and get a roasted chicken
meal instead of a pizza or burgers if you're in a rush. Don't go for that
Avoid grains and legumes all together.
Eat organic broccoli, cauliflower, kale, mustard greens, onions, etc.
no fats except avocados, olive oil, flax, nuts, and sheeps milk fat, etc
Salmon, grass fed beef, other wild fish
Avoid all sugars of every kind: (fruits-fructose, dairy-lactose,
sugar/
ok well... maybe Medic is right. Apparently the only thing to do here is
agree to disagree. With all due respect to your wife's experience, it
doesn't correspond to mine. And that's ok, I'm not saying her story isn't
valid. I just wish you would give other people that same respect.
On Sat, Jan 28
You lost me. If kids are menu planning than they don't have a hope.
McDonald's as a special occasion, random reward or the rare I'm too
tired to cook, but never when the child demands it.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> about happy meal toys. This may seem like micromanagem
althy
> foods
> > > are
> > > > > much more expensive to buy and a lot of people just can't afford
> it.
> > I
> > > > > know
> > > > > I would love to shop at whole foods all the time, but I would go
> > broke
> >
ok then, so you should *know* better than to say that all there is to it is
pushing away from the table. I don't think anyone is whining, or at least I
hope I'm not coming across that way. It's just -- not that simple.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> This point is key: th
It's 90%. My wife used to do the cyber arc trainer for hours a day for years.
Then she changed her carb-o-holic ways and in 2 months had the doctor saying
"don't lose any more weight"
2-arm table push-aways. Seriously.
On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> We all know diet is on
yeah, I will agree with you there, and it's a heck of a lot easier if you
live in the sticks fifty feet from a creek than if you live in an inner
city where you have to worry about them getting shot, I say, as someone who
has done both. But there are still parks. Swimming pools. Something. There
a
This point is key: the misinformation is rampant.
That said, when I got to the point that I so disgusted myself I couldnt even
consider not taking action ... I did.
Quick synopsis:
At 255 I bought a stationary recumbent and got up to 2 hours a day. I lost
maybe 20 lbs and started gaining b
e foods all the time, but I would go
> broke
> > > real
> > > > fast and I make pretty decent money. Even when you have ideal
> > conditions
> > > > and one can eat relatively healthy and exercise, it is difficult to
> > > > maintain
> > > >
Going to the gym three times a week and shopping at Whole Foods or
Wild Oats should keep weight in check. But that's the ideal situation
and times are not kind to many. Multiple jobs or overworking the one
job, plus the stress of keeping that job. It's not easy. I used to
practically live in the g
igned to have very active lifestyles. Unfortunately, especially for
> > > those of us in non-laborer positions, we don't have the time to get the
> > > exercise we really need. So I would definitely say yes to both,
> > depending
> > > on the situation.
>
have very active lifestyles. Unfortunately, especially for
> > those of us in non-laborer positions, we don't have the time to get the
> > exercise we really need. So I would definitely say yes to both,
> depending
> > on the situation.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
ion.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper
By the way, these were not fad diets -- well, she did experiment with
high-protein diets at one point. But usually when she lost weight it was by
going to Weight Watchers.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Dana wrote:
> right, and the reason matters. In her case, she has some sort of bent pin
>
definitely say yes to both, depending
> on the situation.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> Are you just t
right, and the reason matters. In her case, she has some sort of bent pin
in her head that makes her equate food with security, I think. I am not
saying this is right, even though she's my mother and I love her dearly.
Clearly, it impairs her health. But the food she eats is healthy. She just
eats
mmunity
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper
weight? Or are you saying we're powerless to stop obesity?
On 2012-01-28, at 7:00 PM, "Eric Roberts"
wrote:
>
> The big problem is that foods that are che
d exercise, you may not lose weight.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> >
> >
> > Let me revers
ot exercise
> sufficiently
> > > due
> > > > to disabilities.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
> > > >
e contaminats in our foods, like mercury and heavy metals. So
> even if you have a healthy diet and exercise, you may not lose weight.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subj
gt; to disabilities.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> > >
> > &g
On 1/28/2012 5:15 PM, Dana wrote:
> I think you pretty much have to
> exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and keep it
> off.
I thought this was a given.
> but you can't eat all fruit all of
> the time and stay healthy.
and this
> Before that, when I asked doctors, I g
Exactly...
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:56 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of debilitating
conditions won't put you in a wheelchair.
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> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> > >
> > >
> > > it's only a part
You make me laugh.
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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> That is not necessarily an insult but an observation...but one that should
> also be taken as an insult and I would find it very insulting to be
> considered little more than a parrot...and insult that should motivate
t; to disabilities.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
> >
> >
> > it's only a part of the
It's anecdotal of course, but that's my experience. I started to say
particularly the medical professionals, but that's probably not true --
they are just the ones I've started the conversation with. I imagine other
people think it but refrain from comment, rightly considering it not their
busines
orget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise sufficiently due
> to disabilities.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
>
>
> it's
Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise sufficiently due
to disabilities.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the pr
opinion of you. That is what an intelligent person does anyhow.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
I call your views to the left of mainstream and you cry about personal
attacks
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