Re: time used on Ready; prompt

2011-08-10 Thread RPN01
Err Mine still does. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, the

Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012

2011-07-07 Thread RPN01
Sports Illustrated says the world is ending December 31st, 2011. At least that's when their calendar ends. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: Moving on

2011-06-23 Thread RPN01
Good luck! Hope you enjoy retirement as much as you enjoyed VM. Remember those still in the trenches -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: Anyone using Dirmaint with a z10?

2011-03-21 Thread RPN01
11 9:19 AM, "Alan Altmark" wrote: > On Sunday, 03/20/2011 at 05:53 EDT, RPN01 wrote: >> We just installed a z10 processor this morning, and the Dirmaint > satellite on >> it won?t install a directory. The message I get says that there is no > DIRECTORY >> sta

Anyone using Dirmaint with a z10?

2011-03-20 Thread RPN01
We just installed a z10 processor this morning, and the Dirmaint satellite on it won¹t install a directory. The message I get says that there is no DIRECTORY statement which matches the serial and model number, and then has the serial and model in parens. OK, so I cut and paste the serial and model

Re: Temp SFS environment

2011-03-17 Thread RPN01
V-disks stay around until the last user releases them, so could you have them linked read-only by a second user as well to keep them alive until you¹re done with them? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Roc

Making sure vmsys: is up...

2011-03-14 Thread RPN01
Is there a good or widely accepted way to wait in autolog1 until the vmsys: pool is up and available? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: Determining Daylight Savings Time Status

2011-03-04 Thread RPN01
I apologize; As you said, nobody (including me) reads the epilog. No, I don't think the dates have changed again since then, although there has been talk of extending daylight savings to year-round (which makes no sense to me at all...) Sorry for not actually reading through the code. I should ha

Re: Determining Daylight Savings Time Status

2011-03-03 Thread RPN01
Was that script created before or after they changed when daylight savings goes into effect? It may not be correct any more... Be sure to check the results after you get it working. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844

Re: zLinux OS disk read-only

2011-03-01 Thread RPN01
S (disk >> 200) disk when it comes up (in its CP Directory) so I need to find a way to >> spool the console when it starts and not later after it has gone through its >> initialization. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> >> -Original Mes

Re: zLinux OS disk read-only

2011-03-01 Thread RPN01
How is the disk defined in the CP Directory entry (i.e. What is the mode of the disk), and what is in the console log when the user was logged in that could give a clue about the status of the disk when the user was initialized? The mode will tell you the condition(s) that could lead to it being r

Re: Need advice on moving a Linux guest from one z/VM LPAR to another

2011-02-28 Thread RPN01
It really depends on how much planning you¹ve done beforehand. We have our LPARs set up so that they share DASD, share the same CP Directory, and are on the same TCP/IP subnet, so here, it¹s just a matter of bringing the userid down on one z/VM system, and bringing it up on the other. It¹s really

Re: RSCS CTCA between a first and second level system...

2011-02-08 Thread RPN01
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> > Date: 02/07/2011 10:30 AM >> > Subject: Re: RSCS CTCA between a first and second level system... >> > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> > >> > On Monday, 02/07/2011 at 11:53 EST, RPN01 wrote: >>> &g

Re: RSCS CTCA between a first and second level system...

2011-02-07 Thread RPN01
The systems are "polar" and "npolar". On 2/7/11 10:22 AM, "Alan Altmark" wrote: > On Monday, 02/07/2011 at 11:15 EST, RPN01 wrote: >> DMTCMY700I Activating link NPOLAR NJE line=AA20 class=* > queueing=priority >> DMTNET141I Line AA20 ready

RSCS CTCA between a first and second level system...

2011-02-07 Thread RPN01
I need to transfer some files between a first and second level system, and tried to define an RSCS CTCA connection, but when I try to start the connection, the see each other, but immediately shut down the link. The second level connection gets the following messages: DMTCMY700I Activating link PO

Re: Knocked out of me: New s-stat segment process

2011-01-26 Thread RPN01
/( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 1/26/11 3:24 PM, "Shimon Lebowitz" wrote: > I think you mean SAMPNSS CMS > which IIRC is on MAINT 193. > > Shimon > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011

Knocked out of me: New s-stat segment process

2011-01-26 Thread RPN01
I wanted to generate a new CMS segment to pick up a changed S minidisk, and suddenly couldn¹t remember the exec which generates the CMS shared segment skeleton. (The auto accident knocked it right out of me, I think...) I know it¹s simple, and it takes an argument of CMS. I just can¹t remember it¹

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread RPN01
practice are different." On 12/8/10 12:38 PM, "Alan Altmark" wrote: > On Wednesday, 12/08/2010 at 08:31 EST, RPN01 wrote: > >> Is there anyone out there that actually gains security from CP users not >> being granted onto their vSwitches? How many people w

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread RPN01
The issue with keeping the grants in AUTOLOG1 or in SYSTEM CONFIG is that you have to either continually modify those files every time you create a new Linux image, or you have to keep a separate list of Linux images somewhere for AUTOLOG1 to read (though you probably have to anyway). Putting the

Re: The old VM/ESA CMS GUI - Does it still live?

2010-11-23 Thread RPN01
He said he liked typing, not killing trees... -- Bob Nix On 11/23/10 1:30 PM, "Mark Post" wrote: On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George Henke/NYLIC > wrote: >> Please tell ur laughing friends that GUI, *point and click*, is for people >> who can't type. > > If you really believe that, t

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread RPN01
I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape backups. We no longer have any tape drives, real or virtual, attached to the systems, so SPX

Re: How DIRMAINT Work ?

2010-10-01 Thread RPN01
The benefits are far greater than the loss of directly editing your directory. Have you ever edited your directory and put it online, only to find out later that you¹d managed to overlay a minidisk or important piece of CP¹s disk? It shouldn¹t happen again if you correctly implement Dirmaint. And y

Re: BookManager format softcopy

2010-09-03 Thread RPN01
Same here; I've been using the PDF files for quite some time now. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and pra

Re: Duplicate VOLID's

2010-08-26 Thread RPN01
The obvious argument against using the rdev in the volser is when you end up needing to move the data to a new volume, or restore the pack after a physical problem, then you no longer have a match between the volser and the rdev, and it becomes very confusing from there. There really isn¹t one id

Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM

2010-08-19 Thread RPN01
Have you checked with these users to see if they are logging off when done, or just disconnecting from their sessions? Never overlook the human factor in all this. It may just be as simple as changing a user habit. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18 200 F

Re: CSE and redundant connections

2010-08-17 Thread RPN01
55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 8/17/10 10:17 AM, "Alan Altmark" wrote: > On Tuesday, 08/17/2010 at 09:52 EDT, RPN01 wrote: >> I?m going to dig into the m

Re: CSE and redundant connections

2010-08-17 Thread RPN01
Thanks. I've got that one set up now, and will add it to our Autolog1 shortly. In RSCS, I noticed the ROUTE control. Would it be valid to say that I could set up a ROUTE for the two system names, pointing to two separate LINKDEFINE connections defining two CTCA paths? I haven't been able to find

CSE and redundant connections

2010-08-17 Thread RPN01
I¹m going to dig into the manuals in a moment, but can anyone quickly tell me if the CTCA connections used by the various parts of CSE can have redundant sets of connections? (I¹m about to lose the set I¹m using to a POR, and I need to know if I should switch to a second set, or do a better job of

Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread RPN01
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Re: How to copy a disk using a z/Linux guest

2010-08-16 Thread RPN01
Flashcopy does not account for any disk buffers linux still has cached and unwritten. It will mitigate the situation where the disk is changing while it is being backed up. All in all, if you're talking about running images, full-pack backups are basically worthless. -- Robert P. Nix Ma

Re: Define CPU's

2010-07-08 Thread RPN01
Another way of wording this is that adding CPUs to a virtual machine allows the guest to take advantage of multitasking, but does not increase the total amount of CPU time the image receives. If single threading tasks in the image is the bottleneck, then adding a CPU may relieve it. But if this isn

Re: GAPS in DIRMAP

2010-06-11 Thread RPN01
Just to cover all the bases, you never said if you¹d started using TCPIPV, or had any data on the minidisk. If not, then you can simply change the MDISK statement, put the new CP directory online and go with it, no problems. If there is already data there, then you could allocate a new minidisk st

Re: shopzseries

2010-04-12 Thread RPN01
It doesn't solve your web problem, but IBM has taken orders and support calls over the phone for decades. Sometimes the old ways work the most reliably. Just order what you need by phone, and then worry about the IBMLink problem once you have your system in the state it needs to be in. Say hi to e

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-31 Thread RPN01
Hi Bill; We have 295 CP volumes (3390 mod 27) shared between the two LPAR's, running CSE. There are an additional 15,652 volumes owned by z/OS, which we keep offline to z/VM. We run a script in AUTOLOG1 which goes through the list of volumes and makes the decision for each if it should stay onlin

Re: After getting PerfKit working...

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf > Of RPN01 > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:46 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: After getting PerfKit working... > > We can now see what is eating our system, and it turns out that it¹s z/VM... > > CP

After getting PerfKit working...

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
And, it seems that our second LPAR (on another CEC) is playing the same game... P00 IFL 100 1000 0 100 0 61100 .... ... Master P01 IFL712 69 291 0 88 71 .... ... Alternate -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5

After getting PerfKit working...

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
We can now see what is eating our system, and it turns out that it¹s z/VM... CPU Load Vector Facility Status or PROC TYPE %CPU%CP %EMU %WT %SYS %SP %SIC %LOGLD %VTOT %VEMUREST ded. User P00 IFL99 991 1 94

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
Our MONDCSS grew, perhaps too large, while fighting this type message a long time ago. Once the problem was resolved, we didn't attempt to back off the changes we'd made, and the large size doesn't seem to hurt anything at the moment. I know that ultimately, making the segment larger was not the an

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
I plan to talk to the hardware people in a moment to see if anything was added recently? We do have a large amount of DASD that is really owned by z/OS, which we immediately take offline, but they¹d still be in the config area. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55

Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
Ok... I purged and redefined the DCSS, and now I don¹t get the message; I¹m waiting to see if it really starts collecting. I did ³DEFSEG 9000-AFFF SC RSTD², matching our previous segment. My questions now are, What happened to the prior segment that caused it to fail? Could the problem have been

Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
I haven¹t tried redefining the DCSS yet, but I have tried changing the SAMPLE CONFIG SIZE from 1500 to 2000, and I¹ve tried increasing the virtual machine size from 140meg to 256meg. Neither has any effect on the problem. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55

Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2010-03-30 Thread RPN01
I know this has been run into before, but I can¹t remember the solution. I¹m getting the message ³FCXPMN446E Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small² when perfsvm comes up. This just started last night, and it has run since December without problems until last night. I remember that t

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-26 Thread RPN01
t" wrote: >>>> On 3/26/2010 at 12:44 PM, RPN01 wrote: >> Is the controller smart enough to >> be able to start an I/O to each, even though the I/O*s were sent to the same >> 3390 address? > > It might be, but CP and Linux are not, so the waters aren&#

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-26 Thread RPN01
t is PAV aware, it can also avoid queuing, if not, putting many > guests on the same volume and let CP exploit PAV can improve IO rates. > > 2010/3/25 RPN01 >> Another point I¹ve not seen mentioned, and I¹m not sure if it¹s true or >> not... >> >> Given a dedicated volu

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-25 Thread RPN01
Another point I¹ve not seen mentioned, and I¹m not sure if it¹s true or not... Given a dedicated volume to a Linux guest, won¹t the guest start only one I/O to the device at a time, and wait for it to complete? If you break up a larger volume into several minidisks (like a mod 27 into mod 9¹s) are

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread RPN01
Except that's not the size of a 3390-27. Ours are all 32760 cylinders in size. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, t

Re: Hi everybody

2010-02-04 Thread RPN01
The other route you could take, if protection from a shutdown is the goal, change the class of the shutdown to Z or S, and don¹t give this priv to anyone. Use the Set Priv * +Z as part of the shutdown process. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First S

Re: VM lockup due to storage typo

2009-09-16 Thread RPN01
I don't think, in this case, it is the user causing the problem at all. The user didn't define their storage allocation, and in practice can't do that at all. So the user didn't set up the situation which caused the integrity issue, the system administrator did. The system administrator is in cont

Re: DASD additions for zLinux

2009-09-03 Thread RPN01
You can get even cleaner than that: >From a priv¹ed user, use the command FOR userid CMD LINK * cuu cuu M, and then go to the linux system to work with it. You avoid accidentally logging the guest out instead of disconnecting, and issuing other commands you didn¹t intend to. Another choice is to j

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-13 Thread RPN01
The first thing I don't like about this is that it is very prone to human error during the process of adding or removing images. This is just one more, in a long list of files, that has to be edited each time a guest is added. One more place for mistakes to be made. I'd first create a central, agr

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-13 Thread RPN01
I count nine. Seriously, though; there's nothing there that indicates if a userid is running linux or some other utility. Being disconnected isn't significant, because someone could be connected to the console of one. I counted esaweb01 and 02 because I didn't recognize them any more than mlxap01s.

Re: Is it bad to make one zlinux running on 2 z/vm?

2009-07-29 Thread RPN01
Exactly what business problem are you trying to address by doing this? Compare what you're doing to an Intel world implementation. Would you ever place two Intel boxes sharing disk, and with no knowledge of each other, side by side, and boot both systems from the same root disk? What results would

Re: Is it bad to make one zlinux running on 2 z/vm?

2009-07-28 Thread RPN01
The best solution for your problem is to couple the two systems with CSE, so that they¹ll know what the other is doing. Before we implemented CSE, we created a service we called Janus, which we ran in the profile of each Linux server during the CMS startup. The purpose was to look up which system

Re: Is it bad to make one zlinux running on 2 z/vm?

2009-07-27 Thread RPN01
If the two guests are truly using the same, R/W disks, then even if they don¹t know it yet, your disks are corrupted. I hope you have backups. We run the same guest on two different z/VM systems, ONE SYSTEM AT A TIME. It is very important that it not be logged in on both systems at the same time.

Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..

2009-07-08 Thread RPN01
If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0, because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that doesn't carry the same implication, I don't know. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo F

Re: PAV and minidisks...

2009-07-02 Thread RPN01
y Linux will recognize all addresses as a > PAV group.   My guess: >   MDISK 391 3390 1500 500 VOL001 M   (I removed the W) >   MINIOPT PAVALIAS 1391 2391 > would create 391 as base and 1391 plus 2391 as PAV alias addresses. >   > > 2009/7/2 RPN01 >> Your respons

Re: PAV and minidisks...

2009-07-02 Thread RPN01
ests from different users for the same device, > it will look for a free PAV address and may be able to launch it instead of > queueing it.  Linux -as far as I know- is also PAV aware, so it can launch > more than one IO on condition that one gives it PAV addresses, otherwise it > wo

PAV and minidisks...

2009-06-30 Thread RPN01
Before I put something huge together to test this, I thought I¹d pass it by all the experts. Linux has the ability to multipath, and z/VM supports multipathing via PAV. There¹s lots of documentation and studies showing that you can attach / dedicate the PAV addresses to a Linux LPAR or guest, and

Re: Which vm software to use?

2009-06-24 Thread RPN01
So many people come to us with a ³solution², instead of presenting us with their ³problem². They have some big picture, and want some small piece of it implemented for them. They have a restricted view of what is available, what the impact of what they¹re asking for is, and what other techniques co

Re: Oops and finding passwords on a system...

2009-05-12 Thread RPN01
Actually, OPERATOR has it by default, though I¹m not sure why it needs it other than problems like this one. -- Robert Nix -- Mayo Clinic On 5/12/09 3:51 PM, "Scott Rohling" wrote: > -  Don't hand out OPTION DEVMAINT indiscriminately (as in this case -- does > OPERATOR actually have it?  YIKE

Re: Oops and finding passwords on a system...

2009-05-12 Thread RPN01
Yes, I discovered this shortly after asking. I was able to do this from OPERATOR, and then use DEFINE MDISK to get access to the disk and see the USER BACKUP file to get the passwords I needed. The evil question that comes to mind now is, could an auditor site you because the operators effectively

Oops and finding passwords on a system...

2009-05-12 Thread RPN01
I didn¹t log in for awhile and, due to advancing age (actually a year older tomorrow too), I¹ve forgotten what I made the MAINT password. And, since this was also the main password used for almost all the service machines, I don¹t have any other locations to log into that would help me. I know; stu

Re: Moving On II

2009-02-24 Thread RPN01
Sorry to hear this. I wish I could say we had a position for you here, but things have gotten tight all over. Good luck. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: Philosophical question...

2009-02-04 Thread RPN01
To take this a step further, what if the vendor has had notice from the operating system vendor of the implementation of a new security feature, and has not made their install compatible with that new security, and yet never mentions the fact in the install documentation? (IBM ­ Read closely) We f

OSA layer 2 protocol connections...

2008-12-10 Thread RPN01
I attempted this yesterday, and I haven¹t searched the archives yet, so if this has been gone over, I apologize. Looking through the books, it would appear that the changes needed to go from layer 3 to layer 2 protocol would be to add ³ETHERNET² to the vSwitch definition, and to add ³ETHERNET² to

Re: SMSG Authorization

2008-12-05 Thread RPN01
Wouldn¹t the EREP program actually have to be waiting and understand SMSG messages, otherwise, what do you expect it to do with the message once received? Of course, I could be blowing smoke, and EREP does indeed have features to do this that I¹m unaware of or have forgotten. (Getting old is such

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread RPN01
The simple answer is ³No². Realistically, most hackers can barely afford their laptops. Not many have the funds to put a zSeries box in their garage to play with, and most installations don¹t let them on to play, so there isn¹t a lot of knowledge within the hacker¹s easy reach for learning about t

Re: Yet another vSwitch question...

2008-11-26 Thread RPN01
tatement supports up to 3 OSA devices for failover. If you're > using link > aggregation, you can use up to 8; but they are not coded on the Vswitch > statement. > > RPN01 wrote: >> How many vSwitch rdevices can a single controller userid control? I had >> thought it w

Yet another vSwitch question...

2008-11-26 Thread RPN01
How many vSwitch rdevices can a single controller userid control? I had thought it was one, but it appears that they can support more than one... Is there a limit? We were adding a second vSwitch in preparation to convert from fiber OSAs to copper, and I defined two additional controller userids i

vSwitch sanity check question

2008-11-25 Thread RPN01
I have a production vSwitch with a back-up OSA, and I¹d like to take out the back-up OSA for a moment and test it separately from its normal vSwitch. If I redefine a vSwitch on the fly, will it go ³down² for any amount of time while reconfiguring? Or for that matter, can I even do a DEFINE command

Re: Multiple TCPIP servers in a CSE environment

2008-11-24 Thread RPN01
Thanks... That actually makes sense. :-) -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but

Re: Moving Maint's 2CC Drive C

2008-11-21 Thread RPN01
Note that the method described below will miss any W0 files that might have been on the original disk. If you use mode 0 files at all, then this is NOT a good method of enlarging a minidisk. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507

Re: Multiple TCPIP servers in a CSE environment

2008-11-20 Thread RPN01
ory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 11/20/08 1:54 PM, "Rich Greenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On: Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 01:02:20PM -0600,RPN01 Wrote: > > } I set up a second TCPIP virtual machine on P

Multiple TCPIP servers in a CSE environment

2008-11-20 Thread RPN01
There are various naming options for the PROFILE TCPIP file to support various combinations of multiple stacks and systems, but I think I¹ve found one that isn¹t quite supported... We run CSE in a two CEC environment. Our z/VM systems are called POLAR and GRIZZLY. We¹ve had a single vSwitch define

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

2008-11-18 Thread RPN01
Rather than posting your ³perceived solution² to your problem, can you tell us what your actual problem is? What are you trying to solve, as opposed to what you think the solution might be? By the way: CMS has been able to accept lower case at the command line for many years. CP tends to convert e

Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question

2008-10-29 Thread RPN01
C, we could do that for all systems from one place. > For our z/OS guests, we have one PROFILE EXEC on each system that has an > alias for each guest. If I were setting up Linux guests, I'd do them > the same way. > > Den

Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question

2008-10-29 Thread RPN01
I generally use M, since if I can¹t get write access, I don¹t really need it at all at the moment. The whole issue isn¹t that great here, as we have only four actual users that would ever attempt to get write access to the Linux guest 191 shared disk, and two of us sit within shouting distance (mu

Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question

2008-10-29 Thread RPN01
First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 10/28/08 2:42 PM, "Alan Altmark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question

2008-10-28 Thread RPN01
One problem w/ SFS is that we don't run it on our second LPAR at all. Anything that we want to be able to run on both systems has to reside on a minidisk. SFS isn't a choice. If IBM would allow the vmsys: pool to be shared between systems, we'd be more likely to use it. -- Robert P. Nix

Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question

2008-10-28 Thread RPN01
MA > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:45 PM, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you're just IPLing CMS to set things up and then IPL Linux, is there >> really a reason to have multiple 191 minidisks? We share a single read/only >> 191 minidisk among all the Linux g

Re: Linux guest 191/200 disk question

2008-10-28 Thread RPN01
If you¹re just IPLing CMS to set things up and then IPL Linux, is there really a reason to have multiple 191 minidisks? We share a single read/only 191 minidisk among all the Linux guests, in both LPARs. They all end up IPLing 391, and we¹ve added a piece to the profile that looks for userid() exec

Re: Connecting and testing a new pair of OSAs and new vswitch

2008-10-22 Thread RPN01
VSWG isn't the name of the test vswitch; it's the production one... (could've just yelled this over the cube wall, but this was more fun. ;-) ) -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )

Re: Some REXX help

2008-10-21 Thread RPN01
; notion in mathematics or programming. To me, the not equal too is more > natural. > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 >> Sent: T

Re: Some REXX help

2008-10-21 Thread RPN01
You can also make it a bit more readable, and less character set dependent, by replacing the \= with <>. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Gotcha's involved in relabeling CP-Owned volumes?

2008-10-20 Thread RPN01
I need to relabel some volumes, including page and spool volumes... Are things such as the checkpoint and warmstart data strictly done based on the position in the CP-Owned list? Or will the actual volume labels matter, if the SYSTEM CONFIG has been adjusted prior to the shutdown and re-IPL? I wan

Re: REXX and URL's

2008-10-09 Thread RPN01
Don't you two sit close enough to talk? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but i

Re: CSE and shared directory

2008-07-28 Thread RPN01
he RRD on the MDISK records so that > there is even no RR link to the system that doesn't need it. > > I find this easier as the directory entry of the user completely tells > what is what, otherwise having the remember that 03 stands for RSCS > etc is something I couldn't,

Re: Location of DEFAULT DATADVH

2008-07-28 Thread RPN01
Try the command ³DIRM CMS LISTFILE DEFAULT DATADVH *² followed by a ³DIRM CMS Q DISK x² where x is the mode given in the Listfile output. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: CSE and shared directory

2008-07-28 Thread RPN01
In principle, what you've done is correct... But very wrong. :-) We NEVER put an mdisk statement under a SYSAFFIN statement. All the minidisks that need to be "owned" by a specific LPAR are defined in the userid DISKOWNR, and the only thing under the SYSAFFIN statements are LINK statements back to

Re: PWD z/vm 5.3 dev adrs

2008-07-28 Thread RPN01
Physical addresses don't matter. You IPL from your RES volume, using the physical address on which it resides. On that volume, the SYSTEM CONFIG file defines what other volumes are needed to make up the system (CP OWNED for page and spool, SYSTEM for other z/VM related volumes containing user data)

Re: Dirmaint New Install Testing Question.

2008-07-24 Thread RPN01
One thought on a single LPAR system and DirmSat: You can use DirmSat on a single system to maintain a directory on another volume, such that if you have a problem with your primary CP Directory volume, you have a backup to that that can be quickly activated without having to resort to tape. -- Ro

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 Starter System for IBM System z

2008-07-22 Thread RPN01
Without looking, I'd guess that the 150 disk ends up being /boot, though I'd say the size is too small to all maintenance to be applied there, and the other two disks become your other filesystems and directories, in some layout or another. You say "full pack", but that has no meaning today so it'

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-22 Thread RPN01
That doesn¹t deal with the write-enabled minidisks owned by those users, though. You¹d need to use SYSAFFIN to isolate minidisks to specific LPARs, and if you did this, your filepools wouldn¹t actually be shared. If you don¹t do something with SYSAFFIN and just allow all the systems to access the m

Re: Some REXX exec help needed.

2008-07-16 Thread RPN01
Try MAKEBUF instead of MAKBUF; rc = -3 is command not found. Wouldn¹t the close command be CLOSE OPERATOR CONS? Not CONS OPERATOR... This is without getting any manuals or help files involved, and my mind isn¹t what it used to be, so no warrantee implied... -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Founda

Re: FLASHCOPY performance to a DS6800 DASD

2008-07-16 Thread RPN01
We use it for our Linux image cloning, where we copy two to three 3390 mod 9 volumes to create the new image. From request to first boot of the copied image is roughly 18 to 25 seconds. Can¹t fault that at all... -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 Firs

Re: CP Owned Volume Question

2008-07-09 Thread RPN01
The fact that it is ³CP OWNED² and not ³CP SYSTEM² would lead me to wonder about your statement ³Being that the volume is already labeled should I assume that it has allocated to lets say PERM?². I wouldn¹t make such an assumption, especially if someone took the trouble to put it in the CP Owned li

Re: PARTY Re: VMNFS opportunity (I think)

2008-06-23 Thread RPN01
This sounds vaguely like the old VM Workshops. I only attended four of them, I think, but I learned a lot there and made lasting friends within this community. Share and other conferences just aren't the same, and I've never found another conference where you could fill a French restaurant with bal

CP Directory, profiles, and COMMAND: Could someone verify this for me...

2008-06-09 Thread RPN01
We started with vSwitch grants in SYSTEM CONFIG, then moved to reading lists of Linux guests and dynamically granting them to the vSwitch. We then switched (no pun inteneded) to COMMAND statements in each CP Directory to grant the vSwitch and couple the NIC to the vSwitch. This seemed to be the mos

Re: Real device number assignments

2008-05-30 Thread RPN01
To avoid losing people to the mental hospital, all devices have the same identity everywhere they can be seen within our two CECs (10+ LPARs). To do otherwise would cause insanity at some future point. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW

Re: Trying to Learn z/Linux ISHELL Scripting

2008-05-30 Thread RPN01
Just for the clarification and sanity of all, are you talking about shell scripting in Linux, or programming for the ISHELL in z/OS? They are two absolutely separate and distinct environments, and there is little (possibly nothing?) in common between them. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundatio

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