Note:
Another point I forgot to make - this women got some crumbs and we who are God's
Covenant people through Christ are not even getting that these days. Anytime you've
got to depend on food additives etc. you're not walking in Covenant blessings. In fact
you're no better off than the world
Chris wrote:
> "Truth, Adonay, yet bitches eat of the crumbs
> which fall from their masters' table."
> Was that an "ad hominem" from The Saviour? No.
> Was that an insult from The Saviour. Yes, and
> one of a very degrading nature.
Apparently I missed this one but you've done it again. I'd t
I'm neither in nor from Arkansas. Not that it matters ... you're talking to me about
backwoods health care folk tales and you want to denigrate Arkansas! ROTFLMHO!!!
jt: I'm not denigrating anything, just saying that your way is the cultural norm in
that State. Could be wrong about where you
Dogs have been considered in the same manner as by my African brother going back into
antiquity. It is actually a strong precept from ScriptureA mother in Scripture
had a daughter possessed by a demon. The mother sought YahShua to cast out the demon.
Wouldn't you think that The Saviour w
jt: What about the ignorant sitting on a church pew. God said through the prophet "MY
people perish for lack of knowledge" so ignorance is not good no matter where one
finds it. FYI DaveH is a self professed happy Mormon, one who is not interested in
changing, oil in crankcase, or come hell or
I hear you Perry and I'm glad that there are men on TT who find this kind of talk
unacceptable. I was addressing the kind of mail Elsman was sending to TT from his
list. It seemed like some kind of a "good old boy" thing having to do with male street
preachers and I got the idea (could be wrong
"Judge righteous judgment" -- John 7:24.
My youngest is right on target as usual. Of course, Judy decreeing otherwise
indicated that was the case. Looking forward to "Well done good and faithful servant".
jt: You and your son judge by outward appearance and by some distorted religious view
y
DO I CARE TO DISCUSS SHORT HAIR ON WOMEN? NO.
THE MAIN REASON THAT I AM LEAVING THIS LIST IS THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PERSONAL
OPINIONS OF THESE WOMEN. BLAH, BLAHI FEEL SORRY FOR THEIR HUSBANDS..BLAH,
BLAH, BLAH ALL DAY.
I WANT THE WORD OF GOD. THEY CAN LOOK LIKE
DavidM wirtes:
Oh, Izzy. You are going to get me into deep trouble with Elsman now.
:-) He is going to accuse me for the rest of my life about how I do not have my wife
in subjection to me and the Scriptures!
jt: I have a hard time believing that a smart man like Elsman is not just pulling our
Something else I have noticed about women and head coverings is that
older women have this tendency to cut their hair very short. If I
survey the women's heads in my church, the younger women tend to have
long hair, which serves as a covering for her, while the older women
tend to have hair that
I find your response here interesting David. I have found that the reason women are
bound in church settings is mainly because of the attitude/fear of the men involved.
I've only been to one Church where I saw true freedom. Not rebellion - genuine
freedom in ministry blessing others through o
Your "youngest" son Chris? How sad that youthful optimism has been replaced by such
a judgmental spirit but then he is probably the product of your training.
The saddest part of the whole thing is that he will have to give account for all of
his judgmental pronouncements before the Lord, and
Your "youngest" son Chris? How sad that youthful optimism has been replaced by such
a judgmental spirit but then he is probably the product of your training.
The saddest part of the whole thing is that he will have to give account for all of
his judgmental pronouncements before the Lord, and
I accept the scriptures when they are rightly divided and taken in balance and in
context; I don't cower before every religious zealot coming down the pike. Nor do I
see any justification by word or by example for getting in the faces of the ignorant
and soul sick just to shout at them that th
But Elsman - what about the "head covering" and the other two scriptures addressing
cultural problems that you have been trying to burden us with. Surely you are not
giving Izzy a verbal beating now for being disobedient to those admonitions are you?
Cindy and Jed Smock are a campus "entertain
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy USED to write reasonable, rational things, whatever happened,
Judy? I hate to say this, but lately it seems to me you are trying to
please . . uh, Kevin? Kevin, do you consider Judy to be in your hind
pocket?Or, . . Judy, what do you
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine wrote:
The Protestant doctrine as I have always understood it
is that men both inherit the potential for sin, and are
born with that sin upon them, therefore having need of
Baptism for the remission of that sin.
Perry wrote:
This is where you ha
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy is determined to stick with the tradition handed down
to her and all Protestants that says children need to be baptized
to for the remission of Adam's sin.
Judy:
I stick with no such thing Blaine and I would appreciate your not
putting words i
DAVEH:
But I think Ruben wants me to go out on the street with him.
In all due respect to Ruben, I hope he enjoys his work (he seems to),
and do not begrudge him his dues. We will all be justly rewarded,
Ruben and co. included. Each to his own, I would say. Let God judge,
not me. But just
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I really see two different ideas being discussed here:
1) the idea of a child being born with inherent, original sin, resulting
from the fall and inherited from Adam, and
2) a child being born with a sin nature resulting from the fall and
inherite
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: I agree. It does seem a bit strange. It always has.
But apparently not to most of the traditional Protestant churches of
the Reformation. They had infants baptized, or Christianed, as they
called it, because they thought the sin of A
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How could A&E have sinned, IF they did not know right from
wrong?
Judy:
They knew it was right to obey the voice of the Lord who was their
Creator
DAVEH:
Unless you have Biblical evidence, that would be an assumption
on your part, Judy.
Judy:
It's no assu
DAVEH:
As I pointed out previously, God placed the tree of knowledge of
good and evil in the garden for a reason.
Judy:
Yes He was testing A&E to see if they would obey Him choose
what is good.
DAVEH: I don't know why you believe that IF you believe
Jesus was chosen before the foundation o
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: I agree. It does seem a bit strange. It always has.
But apparently not to most of the traditional Protestant churches of
the Reformation. They had infants baptized, or Christianed, as they
called it, because they thought the sin of Adam
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DAVEH wrote:
How could A&E have sinned, IF they did not know right from
wrong?
Judy:
They knew it was right to obey the voice of the Lord who was their
Creator and they knew they had done wrong after the fact because
guilt and shame were all over them. When yo
Another question for DavidM:
Since you are so certain that Jesus is the natural genealogical
seed of Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob etc. and the rule for
interpreting scripture is that scripture ALWAYS interprets other
scripture.
How is it that Paul wrote in 68 A.D.
"If you are Christ's then y
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DavidM
wrote:Rather than belabor our discussion, please just look at the
following verse. Doesn't it prove it once and for all that
Jesus had the same blood as the rest of humanity? Forasmuch
then as the children are partakers of flesh and BLOO
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: I respectfully (DavidH has taught me a few things) disagree.
(:>) They definitely were keeping their fingers on the pulse of the
common folk, I have no contention with that. But they did it because
these folks were the source of their pow
Blaine:
They clearly saw Jesus Christ as a rival to their own control over
the source (the people) of what they valued most--money, power,
status. Their hearts were so much preoccupied with these things,
they rationalized to themselves they had cause against him
sufficient to kill him.
Judy:
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy
wrote:Jesus became flesh and yes he was called the son of man but he
was not ever of the same genealogy as Adam ie: "But He whose
descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham,
and blessed him that had the promises and without
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>If the blood of a
lowly lamb can atone for sin, how much more can the blood of a
righteous man born of the seed of Adam atone for sin.
Judy wrote:
To begin with - there are no righteous men born of the seed of
Adam (Romans 3:10) and secondly the blood
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jesus was fully man. He took on flesh,. He was born of a
woman.
As he grew, he INCREASED in wisdom and stature. He felt hunger
and thirst and pain, He died. Yet Jesus was also fully God. God
is the SAME, yesterday, today, and tomorrow. He was G
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>**Blaine:
I respectfully (DavidH has taught me a few things) disagree.
(:>) They definitely were keeping their fingers on the pulse of
the
common folk, I have no contention with that. But they did it because
these folks were the source of the
salem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Excuse me!!Would you stop for a moment?!O...man...Haven't you
thought-one day- about yourself ?Who has made it? Have you seen a design
which hasn't a designer ?!Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without
a worker ?!It's you and the whole universe
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> Are you saying that there is another way that He
> could have done it without the sacrifice of Christ
> and without us laying down our lives as a living
> sacrifice? What exactly am I not getting?
DavidM:
No, I'm saying that the sacrifice
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> Only if he was a man with Adam's blood coursing
> through his veins which would impart Adam's iniquity
> and disqualify him as a sacrifice for our sin.
DavidM:
I'm not buying what you're selling, Judy. :-)
Judy:
I'm not selling anything D
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> Note it is the "dead in Christ" who are dead and those
> who are alive "in Christ" - Noone makes it apart from
> the sacrifice and obedience to the Word of God.
You are missing the whole point. I don't know what more to say other
than to re
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: But Judy, if what presents itself as
the "clear teaching of God's word"
is really so clear, how come your stats--400
different Protestant gospels--
suggest otherwise?
Judy:
The fact that there are so many different gospels
does n
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine:
Do you suppose these men who paid Judas 30 peices of silver
(the price of a slave) were aware, along with Judas, that this was
the Messiah they were doing away with?There is evidence they were.
Judy:
Where is this evidence? I just showe
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Why would living forever make them unredeemable?
Judy wrote:
> Because they would be living eternally in that
> present fallen state with no other option.
DavidM:
What do you mean, "with no other option." Jesus could still
redeem them and they could be
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> Who makes the determination then if not God?
> Who is the one who defines what is good and
> what is evil?
DavidM:
Good is defined by the utility of the action. If I love
my child and feed her and nourish her, that is good because
the fru
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How does God know about right and wrong?
DAVEH wrote:
> If I were to ask that question of you, would you
> not say that is the definition/nature of God?
DavidM:
Not exactly. Calvinists would tend to answer this way, but I do not
believe that right and
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Perry wrote:
> If I may interject, neither Adam nor Eve were physically
> immortal to start with.
DavidM:
I'm VERY surprised to hear this response. Why do you believe
that they were created as mortal beings who would die?
Judy:
I'm not Perry (hope you
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Let me throw y'all something to ponder.
I'm tired of scratching my head alone.
Consider this:
Satan is described as a deceiver. We are
warned that he will,
if possible, deceive us. I think that all of
us will agree that this
is true. The Bib
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine, Hi Judy, Well, the point was
that they could not reason against
him--they might have tried rationalizing, or in
other words, making excuses
for themselves. But apparently they were so
used to being in charge, they
expected complianc
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: HI Laura, I think they were just too Holy. They
felt no lust,
no sex drive, just blissful innocent happiness, like
children.
Judy:
Adam and Eve were created with the same body and same organs
that we have, in fact, we were all in Ada
Hi Blaine:
There is no reason against the Truth and the people knew Jesus
spoke
as one having authority and not like the scribes (Mark 1:22 and
Matthew 7:29). It was not for "arophobia" that the Jewish
leaders had
him killed, it was for envy (that green eyed monster); this is what
the
scr
- Forwarded Message -
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Furthermore..LDS theology teaches they could not have
had children prior to the fall anyway.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do they teach this? Laura
DAVEH: It is revealed in the BofM...
"And now, behold, if Adam had not t
Judy:
I don't know whether I would call your example "fear of reason" Blaine -
I've seen this happen time and time again
with the homosexual community on television. When they have a
representative discussing some issue with the
"talking heads" and he begins to lose ground invariably they
a
Just a couple of thoughts to add to the Mormon melee.
Our daughter was here last night, the one who is friendly with the Mormon
boy
in Hawaii and who used to travel to Utah often on business. She has a
friend
in Utah who was raised in Christian Science in SLC; he keeps her
current with
what
I hear you Gary and I don't want to be unreasonable, I
guess I am
just burned out on everything Mormon because there has been so
much of it posted by the SP's. The Church Growth Movement
?
Well it's a relatively new topic but I would choke on a steady diet
of that also.
BTW, thanks Perry fo
Kevin:
Can't we start focusing on the truth and just let the Mormons
do what they want to do? I can't see that spending so much time
and effort looking into the details of what they believe and how they
practice it is glorifying to the Lord. What is the purpose?
Judy
From: Kevin Deegan
What was your impression then Charles?
Do you believe Jesus is involved in this movement?
I was a bit dismayed but what I heard and the churches
around me are late getting into the game...
Judy
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy,
Corona, California, is 45 M. ESE of LA in R
It most certainly is...
This is part of a new movement which is "Re-Inventing the Church"
It is known as the 'Church Growth Movement' and centered around
Saddleback
Church in California (BTW where is Corona? Is it in Canada or
California?)
Not that it matters as this phenomonen is worldwide and pas
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David Miller wrote:
> I believe that the sin nature within us is simply a
> drive towards selfishness, which is a drive toward sin.
> However, if one resists this sin nature, he would be
> blameless.
Judy wrote:
> I don't think so because death reigned
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:> There could not have been an atonement if Jesus
> had the blood of Adam coursing through his veins > because then
he would have been born in sin and > he would have had a sin nature like
the rest of > us and this would have disqualified hi
DavidM:
Perhaps you can explain your understanding of atonement more for us
because I don't understand how the atonement has any meaning if the blood
of Jesus was not like the rest of us, neither do I understand the meaning
of Christ's moral
uprightness if he did not share the same weak flesh as th
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So your idea is that Jesus was created in the same condition as the first
Adam? Here are some problems with this idea:
1. If Jesus was in the same condition as the first Adam BEFORE the fall,
then having never sinned, Jesus would be immortal and incapab
I'm really sorry to hear this Dean; you will be missed. I like your
zeal
for the Lord and His Truth; also I have appreciated and enjoyed the
special
and unique way you have of expressing yourself at times.
I'm glad to know you and your wife are in Asheville taking a stand for
righteousness an
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I just quoted the passage. It explains the suffering of Christ in human
terms. He endured the cross, endured such contradiction of sinners
against himself, resisted unto the shedding of blood.
Judy:
Yes he resisted sinners and sin that was coming at him
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> why can't he be the same species as the first Adam
> before the fall and when faced with the same temptations
> overcome leading to life and hope for the rest of us
> rather than fall into sin and disobedience
So your idea is that Jesus
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy:In all the years I've been around believers I've never heard
anyoneagonizing over the fall. I accept it as having taken place
before I was born.
DAVEH: But.you do prefer that it had not happened, do you not?
Judy:Makes no difference what I prefer and
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy:
I find it interesting that your nephew is stuck on the same question as
you.
DAVEH: I think most LDS folks are curious to know how
Protestants
understand God's creation of Lucifer, the tree of knowledge of good
and
evil and the relationship they have wit
Dean writes:I was here when Jeff was and when pressed He admitted
to putting the BofM over the Bible-then tried to retract that
statement- and of course he stated: I am only here to learn what
protestants believe. He came here to learn how to defeat street
preachers just before he was se
We are forbidden to add or to take away from what is written ie:
++
Deuteronomy 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall
ye diminish ought from it that ye may keep the commandments of
the Lord your God which I command you.
Deuter
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy, I am sure
Jeff heard ridiculous things on TT, but like DaveH and Blaine, when they DO
hear the truth on TT it is as foolishness to them.
Judy:
Then that is their problem. I can't see that it does us any good
to
strive with them over word
Dean writes:
I was here when Jeff was and when pressed He admitted to
putting the BofM over the Bible-then tried to retract that statement-
and of course he stated: I am only here to learn what protestants
believe. He came here to learn how to defeat street preachers just
before he was sent to
Hi Kevin & Perry:
DavidH's nephew Jeff wrote, and DavidH posted:"The things he was
saying were more rediculous than ANYTHING I ever heard on Truth
Talk."The Bible explains it:1 Corinthians 2:14 - "But the
natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are
foolishness unt
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dave:I find it interesting that your nephew is stuck on the same
questionas you
DAVEH: I think most LDS folks are curious to know how
Protestants
understand God's creation of Lucifer, the tree of knowledge of good and
evil and t
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Is this a new revelation or old hat?
I am very interested to know the answer to this. Did you GENTILE
TTers know you were considered "ridiculous" before or did you just
find this out?
Judy:
Kevin you need to learn the difference between the ad homenim
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Blaine:
A doormat? I find it ludicrous that anyone even said that in
the first place, and the response as described in your friend's comments
sounds more like a group of zombies who see no evil, hear no evil and
speak no evil, mainly because th
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Kevin
writes:
Why are Greek names such as Lachoneus, Timothy, Jonas, and Alpha &
Omegain a book that should have absolutely no Greek influence?
Blaine: The answer should be obvious, Kevn--the Book of Mormon
wastranslated into English, which has
Hi Dave:
I find it interesting that your nephew is stuck on the same question
as you and what does the expression "tracted into" mean?
The apathy does not surprise me; nor does the confusion concerning
"truth" because there is massive Bible illiteracy out there even among
those in leadership posi
Blaine and DaveH:
What say ye about all of this?
Who is the great nation referred to in your holy writ? This has
nothing at all
to do with the resurrected Christ because these names have no part in
His
genealogy.
To me it all sounds like the kind of fables referred to in 1 Timothy
1:4:
"Ne
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote:
The BoM is a work of FICTION:
Blaine writes: There is so much about the book of Mormon that tells us
it is true, we don't need to know exactly where everything was, but we
believe and have faith it will be revealed in the Lord's own d
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
What exactly about the book of Mormon tells you it is true Blaine?
What I can't figure out is why you would prefer that to the Holy Bible?
Blaine writes: I have already answered this question once, but decided
to answer it again, this
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DAVEH: Hm...Were women considered kinsmen?
I suppose it may be like mankind today.all encompassing.
Judy:
Of course, Paul calls other women fellow laborers in the
gospel so I see no problem with the word 'kinsmen'.
DAVEH:
When I read vs 7, J
Hi Terry:
This is an old one and you haven't been around in a while.
Are you still out there and if so - what kind of evidence would it take?
This is not an assumption but if you are of a certain 'religious' mindset
nothing I have learned from scripture would make much difference.
Judy
From: "Te
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote:
The BoM is a work of FICTION:
Blaine writes: There is so much about the book of Mormon that tells us
it is true, we don't need to know exactly where everything was, but we
believe and have faith it will be revealed in the Lord's own due
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine: I started this, I think--Judy seems to be having a difficult
time
accepting that there is a difference between the potential for sin and
accomplished sin. Jesus had the potential for sin--otherwise the devil
would not have taken him up on the
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
Not only that but women were used
in the early Church - from the scriptures themselves
we can find deaconesses, teachers, evangelists, and
apostles who were female
DAVEH: ??? Where do we find female apostles in the Bible?
Judy:
Paul referred to a large
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> Scripture says that 'IT IS DEATH';
DavidM:
Actually, it does not say that the carnal mind is death. It says to be
carnally minded is death, and the word "is" does not exist in the
original text. So the text can be read as leading to death.
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DavidM wrote:
Let me quote 1 Timothy 2 for you and then quote some Torah portions that
correspond to it.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority
over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Ev
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
He was COMPLETELY Man & COMPLETELY God
Nowhere in scripture does it say there was a conflict between
these 2 Natures He had One personality 2 natures.
Judy:
How could he have two natures, the only two out there are the
nature of God and the nature of the
Sorry about the double posting folk.
I'm trying to use Juno Webmail at my daughter's house and it cut me off so I thought
the post was lost and redid it - now I find they both showed up.
Judy
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
oug
Judy wrote:
> ... he wasn't of the same flesh as the rest of us.
> He was made in the "likeness" of man - not the same
> as..
DavidM:
You are going to have to make up your mind whether or not Jesus was a
human being. Jesus was either human, or he was an alien, angel, or god
who only looked li
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote: The BoM is a work of FICTION:
Blaine writes: There is so much about the book of Mormon that tells
usit is true, we don't need to know exactly where everything was, but
webelieve and have faith it will be revealed in the Lord's own d
Judy: (see below) No it wouldnt...
More accurately this would be the ministry of the Holy Spirit
TO
the unbeliever because when they hear the Word He convicts them
of sin, their lack of righteousness, and the judgment to come which
was what Paul spoke about to Felix in Acts 24:25 until he tre
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm not looking for a debate. I'm looking for some kind of agreement
that Jesus was a human being. If Jesus was not human, then the logical
inference from that is that you do not believe in the Incarnation (God
clothed in humanity). If Jesus was not of th
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I see no contradictions in Scripture if taken at face value.
Judy:
How can you not, I find this incredulous
DavidM:
Let me quote 1 Timothy 2 for you and then quote some Torah portions that
correspond to it. This is pretty basic, but for some reason yo
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> The carnal mind is not a physical organ called the brain
> because to be carnally minded is death
DavidM:
If you think about it, that is exactly why the carnal mind leads
to death.
Judy:
Scripture says that 'IT IS DEATH'; I think our pro
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote:
>>> Ps 51:5 "in sin did my mother conceive me."
>>> This is the purpose of the Virgin Birth that
>>> Jesus would not inherit a sin nature.
>>> He was not concieved in SIN you were!
DavidM:
>> Your teaching here comes from Roman Catholicism.
Ju
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote:
> It is Blasphemous to deny the incarnation and
> since Jesus was God manifest in the flesh to
> attribute the ability to sin and a sin nature
> to Jesus is to attribute the same to God.
DavidM:
The incarnation means that Jesus had qualities
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy
wrote:> What I don't accept is Jesus being born with the
spiritual> inheritance left to the rest of us by the first Adam after
> his fall.
DavidM:
Spiritual inheritance? What is spiritual inheritance? How is
ittransferred to us? Where does t
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote: Jesus could not have a Carnal Mind
DavidM writes:
The carnal mind is the brain. Are you trying to argue that Jesus did
not have a brain? !!
Judy:
The carnal mind is not a physical organ called the brain because to be
carnally minded is death
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin wrote:
> Ps 51:5 "in sin did my mother conceive me."
> This is the purpose of the Virgin Birth that
> Jesus would not inherit a sin nature.
> He was not concieved in SIN you were!
DavidM:
Your teaching here comes from Roman Catholicism.
Judy:
No t
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> I just responded to the quote you posted from Holy Hubert
> David. Yes it was cute as a 'one liner' but not God's heart
> on the matter.
DavidM:
I disagree. I think it does capture God's heart on the matter, given
the context in which it wa
No DAVEH
As it turns out yesterday a.m. was just a lull - Do you ever feel like
you
are the recipient of 'information overload'?
Grace and Peace,
Judy
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well that's up to you fellows, I thought
it might clear the air orclear some
From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine:
I started this, I think--Judy seems to be having a difficult time
accepting that there is a difference between the potential for sin and
accomplished sin. Jesus had the potential for sin--otherwise the devil
would not have taken him up on th
Kevin,
Once more, if this is for me .. I'm with you - and yes in sin did my
mother conceive me.. but the first Adam wasn't conceived. He was
created full grown, yet he was tempted and he sinned. Jesus was
tempted in the same points and he overcame to become the
perfect sacrifice. Hallelujah!!
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