[newbie] Rebuilding RPM Database
Recently I tried to check which RPMs I had installed for a few packages, and the rpm -qa | grep package_name took forever. This has happened in the past, so I just rebuild the database. rpm --rebuilddb I've done this many times in the past, with a number of machines, and it goes through, takes a few minutes, but then works when it's done. So I tried this recently, and it never really rebuilds the database. I've been trying to rebuild the database for an hour now, and it's just sitting there. r2d2 mail # rpm --rebuilddb r2d2 ~ $ ps auxw | grep rpm root 25037 0.0 0.6 5020 3148 pts/17 S14:01 0:00 /usr/lib/rpm/rpmd --rebuilddb What's the problem here? Is there something else I should be doing? In the past, after a power outage, once it reboots, the RPM db is fine. I would rather not reboot my workstation, and figured there was another means around this. Does anybody have any ideas/suggestions? $ rpm --version RPM version 4.0.4 Thanks a lot! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NFS Mount Problems
I do NFS installs, and here's what I have set for my /etc/exports, perhaps you could give something along these lines for it to work: /install 192.168.2.0/24(rw,all_squash,anonuid=500,anongid=500) That's always worked. So any machine on my internal network can access the NFS mounts. In Mandrake(9.0), /var/www is now owned by root, not apache. I'm not sure if that's the case in RedHat. But that could be causing you some problems. But you shouldn't need to use the netmask in there. I don't have mine specified, and it works. I have that /install mounted on various machines to use with urpmi or apt-get, and I have no problem installing packages like that. After you make the edits, make sure you restart all the services. portmap nfs nfslock netfs I would suggest umounting all the currently mounted NFS mounts before restarting netfs. It can complain quite a bit at times. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Help! Please! | | No matter what I do, I cannot seem to get an export to mount FROM my Mdk 9.0 box. Here is my | setup: | | Old_Server - 10.0.0.1 - RedHat 7.2 | Workstation - 10.0.0.2 - Suse 8.1 | New_Server - 10.0.0.3 - Mandrake 9.0 | | Now, I have an export from Old_Server to Workstation, so I know my NFS client works. When I try | and mount an export from New_Server, I get this: | | mount: 10.0.0.3:/var/www failed, reason given by server: Permission denied | | Here is the contents of my config files on New_Server: | | /etc/exports | | /var/www 10.0.0.2(no_root_squash,rw) | | /etc/hosts.deny | --- | portmap:ALL | lockd:ALL | mountd:ALL | rquotad:ALL | statd:ALL | | /etc/hosts.allow | | portmap: 10.0.0.2 | lockd: 10.0.0.2 | rquotad: 10.0.0.2 | mountd: 10.0.0.2 | statd: 10.0.0.2 | | Any suggestions? I know its probably something silly that I am over looking. | | Thanks, | | Chris `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rebuilding RPM Database
Well, that did the trick! I thought to do that a while ago, but I didn't know all of the files I needed to delete. Thanks for the help. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | See if rebuilding the RPM database from scratch, like this, helps: | | rm /var/lib/rpm/_* | (should ask you if you want to delete __db.001 and __db.002. Say yes.) | | rpm --rebuilddb | | HTH | | Damian | | -- | -- | I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from | all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt | (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Creating Installing SSL key for HTTPD
I've been trying to create a proper SSL key for https instead of the test one that's put in place during the install. I found some mod_ssl docs in /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10, but something's not quite jiving. If you check out /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10/ssl_faq.html it tells after you've created your new key, to edit your httpd.conf (/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and add the following lines: SSLCertificateFile /path/to/SSL_key.crt SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/SSL_key.key I found this on some other docs I found online, but when I restart HTTPD, there's a problem: Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 15 of httpd.conf: Invalid command 'SSLCertificateFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration Are the docs just wrong? Or was this not built into mod_ssl for Mandrake Apache? Here's what apache RPMs I have installed, and mod_ssl version: # rpm -qa | grep apache apache-devel-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-conf-1.3.26-3mdk apache-modules-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-mod_perl-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk apache-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-common-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-source-1.3.26-6.1mdk apache-suexec-1.3.26-2mdk apache-manual-1.3.26-6.1mdk # rpm -qa | grep mod_ssl mod_ssl-2.8.10-5.1mdk All of which, I'm pretty sure are up to date. What do I need to do use this key I've created? Or heck, where's there current key placed? Perhaps I'll just move my server.crt and server.key into their places and use those. Any help is always appreciated. Thanks! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating Installing SSL key for HTTPD
Well, I found where the other keys are kept: /etc/ssl/apache I moved my keys into their places, but that doesn't work. It just sits and hangs at Starting httpd: Is there something I'm missing, or should I bould mod_ssl and apache from source to fix this? Any ideas? tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I've been trying to create a proper SSL key for https instead of the | test one that's put in place during the install. I found some mod_ssl | docs in /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10, but something's not | quite jiving. | | If you check out | /var/www/html/addon-modules/mod_ssl-2.8.10/ssl_faq.html it tells after | you've created your new key, to edit your httpd.conf | (/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and add the following lines: | |SSLCertificateFile /path/to/SSL_key.crt |SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/to/SSL_key.key | | I found this on some other docs I found online, but when I restart | HTTPD, there's a problem: | | Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 15 of httpd.conf: Invalid command | 'SSLCertificateFile', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not | included in the server configuration | | Are the docs just wrong? Or was this not built into mod_ssl for | Mandrake Apache? | | SNIP `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kdm configure not working.
I've gone through and made this change, but I still get KDM for KDE2.x. If I then try and load KDE3, it gives me IceWM. I've been using this webpage to set it up. http://www.desktop-linux.net/kde3-tips.htm I went through and did as it says. And it doesn't make sense that merely changing the name in the Session suddenly tells it to load KDE3. I usually load a machine in init 3. But since this machine is for other users, I figured I'd start it in leve 5. For the life of me, I can't figure out why it's not loading KDE3's KDM, or why it runs IceWM when I select KDE3. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I would guess that you still have KDE2 still loaded on your system. If so, it is |the kdm that loads instead of the KDE3 version (which is what you are configuring). |To get KDM from KDE3 to load change the last line in /etc/inittab to read: |x:5:respawn:/opt/kde3/bin/kdm -nodaemon (instead of x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm |-nodaemon) | and reboot your machine. BTW, you need to have root access to edit inittab (either |login as root or in a terminal window do a su command). | | Joe | | | On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:12:00 + | L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I have mdk 8.2 with kde3 in /opt. I tried to change kdm settings. Though I | could change them in dialog, it is not taking reflected when I logout/reboot. | What to do. I work in kde3. | -- | | L.V.Gandhi | 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 | MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA | [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 | | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mysterious Opening and Shutting CD-ROM
I got home yesterday, headed into my office, turned the monitors on and sat down to check email and IRC. Suddenly I hear something. Confused, I pay it no nevermind, but only at first. I took it for something going on outside to start. After about a minute or two, the sounds were too frequent and with exacting intervals, I finally decided to look around. Off to my right, where I have a number of machines sitting on the floor. My workstations CD-ROM tray was ejecting, then close, ejecting, then closing. You get the picture. My wonderment is, Why?? I was connected to the machine from work, as I always do. At no point did I run an ejecting command, and I can't think of anything I could have done to cause this to start. Has anybody run into this type of behavior, or am I to sumise that my machine was haunted, at least for the afternoon? Thanks for any insight on these bizzare events! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Login
Did you su to root before running this command? apachectl is something you need to be root to run. Thus it's been put in one of the various sbins on the machine. Unless you edit the $PATH for that user, it won't even see applications in /sbin, /usr/sbin, or /usr/local/sbin. You can't telnet into a server as root. So maybe you forgot to grant yourself root access before running this command. That's what first comes to my mind. Let us know. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | | | I made a telnet connection against my LINUX System and tried to run the | command apachectl but my system can´t recognize the sentence, but when | I´m on Console works fine... | A Telnet session, have all the privileges like a console session ?? | There is another way to have a remote access to my system ? | | Regards | | Nenister | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query
You didn't actually need to upgrade gcc. If you check the configure options, you'll find the option to --disable-gcc-checking. Mandrake was very nice to patch their built version of gcc for us. They've been doing this since 8.0. The configure script doesn't check for problems with it, it just checks the version number. I've been compiling MPlayer for some time, and each time I've used --disable-gcc-checking and I've had no problems, bug related that is, with it since. With the new versions, make sure you copy the MPlayer-0.90pre5/etc/codec.conf and MPlayer-0.90pre5/etc/input.conf to ~/.mplayer. There have been some changes made to it regularly. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Thanks for the quick instructions! Worked first try (although I had to | upgrade gcc from 2.96 to 3.0.4). | `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aliases
Word to the wise, do not toy with /etc/profile.d/. Just leave those alone, and as I've detailed in the past, create your own ~/.aliases for your user. (Check the archives. This has been covered before.) The best place to add your aliases is in ~/.aliases. Yes, you can put them in ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile, but it's best to keep those files small, and a typo is more friendly in ~/.aliases then it would be in ~/.bashrc etc; So set up your ~/.aliases by using your favorite text editor. Here's the format: alias alias_name=command_to_alias Here's an example: alias mp='mplayer -vo x11' To get rid of an alias, use the unalias command. It's built into the shell. $ type unalias unalias is a shell builtin So after you've created all your aliases in ~/.aliases, end the file with your Unaliases Unalias unalias md unalias d Follow that format. It will prevent problems in the future, and you're not affecting other users that might want those default aliases. alias rm=rm -i is a good example. After you've created/edited your ~/.aliases, at the end of your ~/.bashrc add this line: source ~/.aliases This will set up aliases for each time you open a new terminal. Source your ~/.bashrc and it will re-read your environment files. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Hi, | When I types aliases on Mandrake 8.2 I get list of aliases. Say if I want | to remove a few of them, whichfile should I edit? | Thanks and bye. | -Payal | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Monitor
It depends on your video card configuration. If you have a card with dualhead built in, then it's usually just proper drivers from the manufacturer. It seems that 8.2 automatically installs and recognizes dualhead on a video card. I'm running the Matrox G400 MAX. My business partner's running the G550 I believe. He installed 8.2 on that machine recently and it saw in the install that he had dual display support, installed the driver. All he had to do was install Matrox's software to configure the dual display. If you're going to use two video cards, things can be much different and at times more difficult. But it's possible. I've toyed with the idea of putting a second video card in my workstation to stretch my display total to 3, but not sure it's worth it. It is very do-able. It's been possible for a while now as I understand it. Just depends on how you go about implimenting it. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | How do I go about configuring Dual Montiors. It's now the only thing keeping | me from going full linux and throwing my windows copy in the garbage. Anyone | know how I go about settting up dual monitors.. Please help | | Jesse Angell | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do you create a RPM files from Tarball sources
# rpm -ta gtk-gnutella-0.80.tar.gz SNIP Wrote: /usr/src/RPM/SRPMS/gtk-gnutella-0.80-1.src.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/gtk-gnutella-0.80-1.i686.rpm Executing(%clean): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.84635 + umask 022 + cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD + cd gtk-gnutella-0.80 + rm -rf /var/tmp/gtk-gnutella-root + exit 0 That's another way of doing it. So now you could check out the RPM that's stored at /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686/gtk-gnutella-0.80-1.i686.rpm, or /usr/src/RPM/SRPMS/gtk-gnutella-0.80-1.src.rpm. Hope that's what you're looking for. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Can you help me. | I need to learn how to create rpm files from tar files. | I want to experiment with alsa-driver-0.9.0beta9.tar.bz2 | | SNIP | | This oneseems to like my system, but it would seem I also | need version h first , what ever that is. | | I have compiled and installed tar balls before, I downloaded and installed a | scanner driver for my mustek scanner, with some supervision,meaning with | someone to ask, if need be,which works, and I have done a number of simpler | things on my own. | | SO HOW DO I GO ABOUT IT. | and what is version.h | I feel that it falls into two parts, preperation and action. | For instance do I have all necessary software installed to create | rpm's from tar balls, and if not what do I need to do. | | Thank you, | | John | | -- | John Richard Smith | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] weird log...
Basically, the system's being lazy with the log. In some cases this can
almost be seen as a good thing. It means your don't have much writing
to the log.
All you need to do is find the what it's repeating. It should be last
line written ABOVE all of those things. Here's an example from my log.
Apr 16 02:47:32 localhost snort[29743]: [1:477:1] ICMP Source Quench
[Classification: Potentially Bad Traffic] [Priority: 2]: {ICMP}
Apr 16 02:49:04 r2d2 last message repeated 7 times
So it repeated the line from snort 7 times before something interrupted
what it was doing, then made it print again.
All you have to do is find out what's above all of those. Try this
command, it may give you the line that it's repeating.
grep -B 5 repeated /var/log/messages
So it finds every line that has repeated in it, then prints the 5 lines
BEFORE it as well. Check the man page for grep for more options. If
you don't get anything printed with the above command, change the 5 to a
10.
Hope that helps.
tdh
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| hi..
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| i've just noticed a funny thing on my machine.. i switched
| to tty12 to look at the messages being displayed there
| and saw something like this:
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| Apr 18 15:11:15 localhost last message repeated 2 times
| Apr 18 15:12:17 localhost last message repeated 2 times
| Apr 18 15:13:19 localhost last message repeated 2 times
| Apr 18 15:14:21 localhost last message repeated 2 times
| Apr 18 15:15:23 localhost last message repeated 2 times
| Apr 18 15:16:25 localhost last message repeated 2 times
| Apr 18 15:17:27 localhost last message repeated 2 times
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| all over the screen, every exactly 1 minute 2 seconds. i have no clue about
| this.. i've shut down every program except for my wm ( fluxbox ) and sylpheed.
| does anyone know what his means? it's the first time i get this...
|
| thanks.
|
| Damian
|
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Re: [newbie] New silly Question. ;) Recommend good file manager?
Hey Femme. I think what you're looking for is ROX. Somebody asked me on #mandrake what file manager I use. You know I'm a console man, so my answer was xterm. However, somebody else came up with the option of ROX. It's pretty simple, but you can set up defaults to open up certain file types, and it is GUI of course. I've installed it, but have only played with it breifly. It looks nice, and appears to be pretty functional though. Check it out, it may be what you're looking for in E. But keep in mind you can still use your other file managers in E. You can run Konqueror in if you'd like. http://rox.sourceforge.net/rox_filer.php3 Hope that helps! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I need a semi-decent one. KDE uses Konqueror, and I tried GWC?... for | enlightenment. | | I hated GWC *or whatever its called*. Any ideas? :) | | Right now I have the default SU FM and thats it in Enlightenment. | | Thx | Femme | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I just found the strangest thing...
Is there some console tool which will search some online dictionary for definitions? At work we used to have a tool call webster. Which would do just that, but it was discontinued and I've never been able to find something like that. Does anybody have any sort of idea/suggestions for this? Thank you. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I loaded gdict (I would assume that this would work with kdict as well), which | is set to use the server dict.org on port 2628. I then entered the word | defenestration (without the quotes). Here's what I got: | | defenestration n. mythically from a traditional Czech | assasination method, via SF fandom 1. Proper karmic retribution | for an incorrigible punster. Oh, ghod, that was _awful_! Quick! | Defenestrate him! 2. The act of exiting a window system in order to | get better response time from a full-screen program. This comes from | the dictionary meaning of `defenestrate', which is to throw something out | a window. 3. The act of discarding something under the assumption that | it will improve matters. I don't have any disk space left. Well, | why don't you defenestrate that 100 megs worth of old core dumps? | 4. Under a GUI, the act of dragging something out of a window (onto | the screen). Next, defenestrate the MugWump icon. 5. The act of | completely removing Micro$oft Windows from a PC in favor of a better OS | (typically Linux). | | Can anyone verify this? | | -- | Sridhar Dhanapalan | | Jennifer Lopez = JLo (pron: Jay-Low). | Bill Gates = BGa (pron: Be-Gay). | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need an explanation about LICQ
Hey Femme. Well, I read both of your messages, and a bit confused. From the message below, it sounds as if you already have LICQ installed. The next email goes through and details how to install LICQ from binary. So do you have LICQ installed and can't configure? Or did you try and install it from another source to see if that fixed the problem? As for your message below. It's been a while now, but a majority of ICQ clients/clones have had problems sending messages, as well as recieving messages with any sort of regularity. It was the point that I was getting/sending messages that would arrive about 65% of the time. That's why I installed an IRC server on my network to talk to friends with. As for your inquirery below, nslookup is a Name Server lookup tool. You give it an IP address or a name, it then queries the default Name Servers to get your information back. However it's being slowly phased out. $ nslookup icq.mirabilis.com Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases. Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. Run nslookup with the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing. Server: 68.42.244.6 Address:68.42.244.6#53 Non-authoritative answer: icq.mirabilis.com canonical name = icq.fes.mirabilis.com. icq.fes.mirabilis.com canonical name = 1.fes.mirabilis.com. Name: 1.fes.mirabilis.com Address: 205.188.153.97 Name: 1.fes.mirabilis.com Address: 205.188.153.98 Take not to the not just below the command. Host will give you the same basic information, however I've always liked nslookup. $ host icq.mirabilis.com icq.mirabilis.com is an alias for icq.fes.mirabilis.com. icq.fes.mirabilis.com is an alias for 1.fes.mirabilis.com. 1.fes.mirabilis.com has address 205.188.153.97 1.fes.mirabilis.com has address 205.188.153.98 Checking my LICQ configs, it's pointed to icq.mirabilis.com and default server port is 4000. BUT!! But, I really only have it on to tell me who's on line. It's good for that, but I don't think I've sent/recieved a message in quite some time. [network] AllowNewUsers = 1 NumOfServers = 3 DefaultServerPort = 4000 #Server1 = login.icq.com Server1 = icq.mirabilis.com Server2 = icq2.mirabilis.com Server3 = icq3.mirabilis.com If your ~/.licq/licq.conf doesn't look like that, give it a try. I've been on the LICQ mailing list for some time now. Why I'm still on there any more, I don't know. I used to test the CVS trees and all that good stuff, but then I gave up on LICQ due to the changes that AOL made. Hope that helps a little! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I sent this *accidentally* to Ollie on the list :| | | *sigh* I feel stupid now but I still need help with this if possible? | | | OK I've been reading the LICQ homepage FAQ. | | Helpful to a point. However my problem seems to be the one that comes | with LM8.2 works but I cannot change the default servers. And if I do, | they don't work. The solution *according to the FAQ* is to do thus: | | This is a problem with the ICQ servers and people who use icq2000. For | some reason a selection of the icq servers do not allow you to log on | using another client after using | icq2000. | The solution? Edit ~/.licq/licq.conf and set the servers to be a valid | icq.mirabilis.com ip except 205.188.153.*, e.g. 205.188.179.33. Try | nslookup icq.mirabilis.com for more. | This, hopefully, will make it work. In any case, it's not a LICQ | problem, but a mirabilis stupidity. | | I understand the stupidity line. Thats about it ;0 | | OK so what's nslookup and how do I do it? How does it work what do | I do once it provides me with the information I need? | | FWIW, the windows clients connect to login.icq.com on port 5190. | | I set that info up in the ~/.licq/licq.conf file. It times out. I | checked their bugsite and its pretty useless. It lists this as an open | problem thats all. | | The best suggestion they have is to upgrade to a newer version. Anyone | using the new one? Does it solve this problem? | | Thx | | Femme | | *Sorry no humour today! read the Sig!* :) | | -- | Good Decisions You boss Made: | | We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that | character from Peanuts. | | - Source: Dilbert `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Script
Here are a few of them that I've gone back to and toyed with from time to time. -- Basica walk through http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/programming/introbashscript.html -- Another basica HOW-TO http://www.pxh.de/fs/svcd/index.html -- And my favorite, how to add colors to your scripts output! :') http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue65/padala.html Check those out. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Jesse Angell wrote: | | Thanks, that did just what I wanted. | Does anyone on the list have a URL to a guide on how to script? | | I ask as I am interested in doing many things automatically and can't | ask you guys to right the scripts for me. | | Thanks | -- | === | Hylton Conacher on KDE 2.1.1 on kernel 2.4.3-20mdk#1 | Registered Linux user # 229959 on Mandrake 8 on an i686 (AMD 1 Ghz K7 | mobo | Licenced Windows user | === | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unisys, Microsoft to launch anti-Unix ads
What I like is SUN's response: Sun still does not see Microsoft as a real threat in the datacenter market where reliability, availability, serviceability and security are key, the company said. As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows. I think the French term is Touché. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | http://news.com.com/2100-1001-870805.html?legacy=cnettag=pt.msnbc.feed..ne_9506331 | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] adding date to tar.gz file?
Just add an executable line to the name of the tar.gz by using date. Pretty simple. I do it all the time. tar -zxf /path/to/file-`date +%m-%d-%y`.tar.gz /path/to/dir/to/backup You'll end up with /path/to/file-03-26-02.tar.gz Check out date --help for all the possible flags, so you can get your tar file as specific as you'd like. Including the time, just the day and month, format, etc; Hope that helps ya. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I have a script I use to backup some important files in my home directory. It works |fine but I would like it to add the curent date to the file name IE: |backup-03-26-02.tar.gz instead of just backup.tar.gz | Any suggestions on how to do this? I looked in the tar man and tar howto but |couldn't find exact syntax for the current date. | thanks | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm Locked Out!
Did you try to unmount the devices? Make sure you're not currently accessing something on either one, then run the commands: umount /mnt/floppy eject That should unmount the floppy so you can eject it manually. The eject command will unmount the CD, if it was mounted, before it ejects it. From there, put the floppy back in, and run the command: mount /mnt/floppy Then try to access the contents of the floppy. Similar steps with the CD-ROM. Insert the CD: mount /mnt/cdrom cd /mnt/cdrom ls -a I'm not sure how the automount works in 8.2. It may need to be tweaked a bit. But now I have a question. Why did you upgrade to 8.2? If 8.1 was working, and you weren't having any problems, why did you upgrade to 8.2? It seems a lot of people think that as soon a new revision comes out, they have to upgrade to the new rev. That's not the case. In previous revs that was needed. There was a good sized jump in kernel capabilities and hardware additions from 7.2 to 8.0. So there was a need to upgrade there. But from 8.1, to 8.2, I don't believe there is. I've noticed, more so this time then with the last two Mandrake revs, that people are upgrading merely because there's a new version. Micro$HAFT has conditioned people to think that a new version is out, and you have to upgrade. This is not the case with Linux. If you keep your apps and patches up to date, there's no need to upgrade. There are still people on the list that run on Mandrake 7.2. In my opinion it's still the most stable of Mandrake's releases. If you upgrade the kernel and apply safty patches and the like, there's still no need to upgrade. At the time I only went to 8.0 because of better hardware support. Hope my suggestions helped. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I just installed the new and improved Mandrake 8.2. It was harder to get | my DSL up than with the 8.1. I've only been running Linux for about three | weeks. I like the CDRom icons, but there is one problem. My Floppy, and my | two CDRoms are locked. Even to super user. I thought it was a permission | problem, but I can't get in. What should I do. By the way, thanks for | answering my questions without flaming the heck out of me. I guess I'm used | to some ruff newsgroups. | | Thanks, | | Don | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3-button mouse
Try running mouseconfig again. **As root mouseconfig Go through that, and then try testing it again. Of course if you've not done that already. But I think that's where I'd start. I think that will ask you to test the mouse and let you know if it's going to work. I have a Kensington Expert Mouse Pro, and it works just fine. Mouse wheel, and 3 of the 4 mouse buttons work. And if I had time, I could probably get the 6 quick start buttons to work if I really worked at it. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Hi, | | The middle button of my mouse isn't working. It is properly setup as Generic | 3 Button Mouse in Mandrake Control Center. But it simply doesn't work. I | remember it working correctly under LM 8.0. Does anybody know what could be | wrong? | | TIA, | | -- | Guilherme Cirne | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] translucent shell window
Check out the man/help pages for aterm and Eterm. aterm -tr That should give you a transparant background. Eterm 0.8.*, ~I BELIEVE~, gives you a transparant background by default. But I don't know if that's the case. I do know that with the right tags, or by clicking through the menu you can easily have a transparent background. You can also add tint to those and the like. I'd create a screen shot of some examples, but that's not that easy from here at work. If you're interested in some more information and or examples, feel free to email me directly. Transparent *terms are pretty sweet. I use a lot of them at home. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I was wondering how I could get the shell window to appear translucent. | | Thanks in advance, | Mithrilhall | | * | * Mithrilhall's Linux* | * Server * | * AMD-K2 350MHz* | * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * | * | | | | _ | Do You Yahoo!? | Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alias problem
To the best of my knowledge, this is a Linux thing. Now, Manadrake may use the /etc/profile.d/alias.sh script, but Linux uses the /etc/profile.d to keep some of it's aliases like that. Checking on a RedHAT machine, I can see other *.sh as well as *.csh files in that directory for setting up aliases. So this isn't something that's entirely Mandrake specific. One other thing. Somebody asked did you reboot after making those settings. Reboots are for two reasons. 1) Hardware upgrades 2) New Kernel installs. Never reboot your machine because you installed an application, or your application crashed. The 'source command or the '.' command can read settings changed like that. Just tell the current shell to re-read those settings, a new shell spawned will auto- matically read those settings. We stopped using Windows so we didn't have to waste time rebooting! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | thanks for the detailed reply. For systemwide change i used to in | bashrc.Fundanental thing I wasnot knowing that about /etc/profile.d/alias.sh. | Is it specific to mdk 8.1 ? | -- | L.V.Gandhi | 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 | MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA | [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Minimizing the cult factor
| On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 11:34:55AM +0100, Kaj Haulrich wrote: | Indeed, thinking that Linux needs PhotoShop, man what do you think the | GIMP does? Clearly not well researched as the only thing PhotoShop does | that GIMP doesn't yet is CYMK colour - that's coming though. | I think the point's being missed here. Yes, GIMP will do most of the things that Photoshop does, but is it as familiar and as widely used as Photoshop? Photoshop has become a very well known, accepted standard, for image editing. Being used on Macs as well PCs. I know quite a few people who started out just playing with Photoshop for the hell of it, then turned into Photoshop gurus. For all I know that's possible and true with GIMP, but who do you know that doesn't know about Photoshop? When it comes down to it, it's what are people used to and comfortable using? And if Linux were get Photoshop, it could take over more of the PC market. I think most would agree with that. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alias problem
Okay, let's back up here a second.
1) If you want ot add an alias, let's do this right.
a) Edit your ~/.bashrc, adding this line at the very bottom
of the file:
source ~/.aliases
2) Create your ~/.aliases by opening your favorite editor.
vim ~/.aliases
alias l=ls -alF --color=yes |more
** note **
An alias will work with quotes () or an apostrophe (').
This is the correct way about doing this. Use this method before you start
editing /etc/profile, or /etc/bashrc. The reason for this is that those files
access another file that you didn't seem to know about, and it's reading those
files first, since they're higher in the pecking order.
At a prompt, type this command: type l
$ type l
l is aliased to `ls'
It's already alisted to that. Editing my ~/.aliases to reflect the line of:
alias l=ls -alF --color=yes |more
$ source ~/.aliases
$ type l
l is aliased to `ls -alF --color=yes |more'
It's reading my ~/.aliases, which is what YOU want, and is behaving as it should.
So you know, these bash aliases are stored in /etc/profile.d/alias.sh. That's where
the aliases for rm -i and more are kept. I would not suggest editing those. If you
don't like those things, change them in your ~/.aliases, but leave the sytem wide
settings as they are.
SO... the reason why l is still giving you ls output is because you've edited the
wrong file and added your aliases. Follow steps 1 and 2 above and your problem will
be fixed.
tdh
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| I have made an alias in /etc/bashrc, $HOME/.bashrc and $HOME/.bash_profile
| as given below
| alias l=ls -alF --color=yes |more
| this doesn't give the desired/actual result as given in command line.
| Any help please.
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Re: [newbie] alias problem
| Okay, let's back up here a second.
|
| 1) If you want ot add an alias, let's do this right.
|
| a) Edit your ~/.bashrc, adding this line at the very bottom
| of the file:
|
| source ~/.aliases
|
| 2) Create your ~/.aliases by opening your favorite editor.
|
| vim ~/.aliases
| alias l=ls -alF --color=yes |more
|
| ** note **
| An alias will work with quotes () or an apostrophe (').
|
| This is the correct way about doing this. Use this method before you start
| editing /etc/profile, or /etc/bashrc. The reason for this is that those files
| access another file that you didn't seem to know about, and it's reading those
| files first, since they're higher in the pecking order.
Sorry, one more comment. Once you've done this, source your ~/.aliases, either
of the two lines will do that for you
. ~/.aliases
source ~/.aliases
I forget a step. So make that step 3.
tdh
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Re: [newbie] Speed.... Or lack of?
Sure. Never use KDE or GNome. If you ask me, which you didn't, but I'm going to tell you anyway, (lol) KDE and Gnome were written for converted Windows users, with the Windows philosphy in mind. They are intensely bloated system hogs. So much so that it bogs a system down when you're not running KDE or Gnome, but want to use a KDE/Gnome app real quick. Example: I'm a full time Enlightenment user. I don't use any other WM's in conjunction with Enlightenment, just E, and nothing else. I opened gvim which is basically Gnome ViM. I've been doing a lot work with procmail lately, and it was just a little easier to use. With two of those open, both instances editing two or three files, I noticed a huge performance difference. I closed all of them, and suddenly I was running up to normal again. Samething goes with KDE. I used to use ksnapshot to take screen shots, but it takes 15 seconds for the damn thing to load since I don't run KDE. Because of that, I wrote myself a screenshot script so I wouldn't have to use that thing ever again! I would suggest getting some more RAM. Your machine can run on that hardware and run very well. Hell, for me, that's an ideal machine to uninstall XF86 and use as my console machine. But if you need something like KDE/Gnome, then you need more RAM. And lots of it. Since KDE takes a large chunk of the RAM when it loads, and then trying to load other hogging KDE apps. So two suggestions. Never, EVER, use KDE or Gnome Upgrade your RAM to at least 128, however I would suggest 256 or more. Check out www.crucial.com/ for inexpensive RAM prices. Hope that helps a little. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I just installed Mandrake 8.1 on my machine. | | PIII @ 733MHz 64 MB Ram, 40 GIG HDD, With about 38 GIGs free. | | After I use KDE or GNOME and browse the internet for a while (maybe 20 or 30 | mins), the machines starts bogging down so bad that it takes MINUTES to open | new windows, check mail, open apps, etc etc... | | | Any ideas or suggestions? | | Thanks. | | | JD | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment
You're trying to create a menu for your LEFT mouse click? What you need to do is create ~/.enlightenment/file.menu. Here's the format you need, and an example from mine. User Menus Menu Name NULL menu menuname.menu APP NAME /path/to/icon exec /path/to/command That's the basic format. He's an example of what I have in one of my menus. Eterm /usr/X11R6/share/icons/mini/Eterm.xpm exec Eterm Some people actually type /exec /usr/bin/Eterm but it's not needed. As long as the command is in your $PATH, it will run the app for you. I hope that's what you're asking for, let me know if it's not though. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I am creating a custom menu but don't know the paths to the defaults apps that are |in the middle click menu. For instance where is the command to run e-term ect. | | PK | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] On the Subject of clocks ... Need Enlightenment
I use Enlightenment full time, and have done so for over two years now. For a lot of E users, they are provided a clock by another app. Many use the app gkrellm. Here's a screen shot of the two I have running on my desktop right now. There's an option of it displaying a clock, as well as doing other things for you. (Displaying when you have mail, users on the machine, ssh, ftp, sftp connections, and 'many many more!') http://ic.net/~timh/gkrellm_clock.png The little fish tank looking thing in the middle is something unrelated to gkrellm. But it has a clock under the host name, and date. A lot of E users use an app like that. It servers multiple functions and think it looks kewl as well! :') Of course there are more generic ways of doing it with xclock. It's completely up to your likes and dislikes. There also may be epplets that have a clock. I think if you check out /usr/bin/E-Clock.epplet. You can use that as well. Check out GKrellM's webpage. Youcan download it there, and find plugins to use with it as well. http://web.wt.net/~billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html Hope that helps. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com | yes OK Bad joke in subject line | | I literally need a clock in Elightenment. I'm so frigging clueless... Every | other WM. has one... Even that weirdo TWM. I have tried all the WM's Mandrake | 8.x has to offer by default. I don't remember if there is one in Blackbox | (haven't played with it much). | | So far I am partial to KDE *yay windowsy interface i can handle!* | Enlightenment *Yay Linuxy interface I can handle!* | | But... the lack of a clock in E is driving me insane! | | Help? | | Femme | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com - Uptime --- 2:04PM up 2:24, 1 user, load averages: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Alias question...
*Slight* correction. :0) In bash you need quotes if the alias includes spaces. Example: alias z=zwrite That DOES NOT need quotes. alias mp='mplayer -vo x11' This alias DOES need quotes. I know... I'm nit-picking, just giving away free information! :0) tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | On Saturday 29 December 2001 17:06, you wrote: | Hi. I'm trying to get to alias's (pleural sp?) to work and am having | a problem. Here is what I put into /home/darklord/.bashrc: | | alias diablo2=winex /mnt/windows/Program\ Files/Diablo\ II/Game.exe | alias starcraft=winex /mnt/windows/Program\ | Files/Starcraft/starcraft.exe | | Bash always complains that it can not find either of the *.exe files. | It doesn't complain about the path to them... | | In bash you need quotes around the aliased command if it consists of | more than one word. | | S | | -- | Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines | Remove the fruit to obtain reply address: | spencer at lasermount satsuma dot uklinux dot net | 5:57pm up 35 days, 3:57, 13 users, load average: 0.05, 0.12, 0.20 | Registered Linux User #232457 | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com - Uptime --- 6:06PM up 66 days, 6:45, 3 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how do I save any html page
I can't remember, but doesn't the wget command get the HTML and the images? Or there's an option to tell it to do so? I stopped using it since it was so darn slow, but maybe somebody else can answer that question. man wget wget --help tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Hi... | i want to save a html page, but when I did it with Konqueror... it only | saved the text, and i need the images... I mean i need the page like in the | internet but off-line... How do I do that with konqueror or any app?? | | thanks | -- | Usuario Registrado | de Linux #232544 | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 1:59PM up 25 days, 2:39, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Outlook Express to Linux - how can I - also Draughting package needed
It turns out that the Eudora mail files are almost mbx. There are actually two files for each mailbox. One is mailbox_name.mbx and there's Mailbox_name.toc. Why this is done, I'm not entirely sure. I think it keeps the info for attachments and the like. The problem is, even plain text emails, are then translated into HTML in Eudora. So no matter how you download it, it turns it into HTML. So when I tried to add some of my old backed up Eudora Pro mail folders to my current mail folders, they're all in HTML. Now I have mutt set up to use a text browser to show stuff like this, but I have to initiate it via a few key strokes, and it just gets annoying. I guess if I didn't hate KMail so much, and used that, I wouldn't have this grip. But I can't stand it, and mutt is more functional, and better suited for me. The same sort of issue may be the case with Look out Express mail folders, but think goodness I haven't had to use that since October of '98! tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | On Wednesday 14 November 2001 02:07, Tim Holmes wrote: | From what I've read, and what I've played with, you don't need to make | the Outlook Express mail file anything. You should be able to use it | as is, and then port it to something you can use in *nix. | | http://freshmeat.net/projects/mbx2mbox/ | | I was looking for something to port Eudora Pro mail files to Linux, and | had a bit of frustration and problems and then it didn't really do that | well of a job. But check out that app above. Maybe it will work. | tdh | | | According to chapter 7 of the Kmail manual Euroda Pro files are already in | the same format as Kmail. All you have to do is copy them over in the right | place. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 1:01AM up 22 days, 13:41, 2 users, load averages: 0.21, 0.09, 0.03 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Outlook Express to Linux - how can I - also Draughting package needed
From what I've read, and what I've played with, you don't need to make the Outlook Express mail file anything. You should be able to use it as is, and then port it to something you can use in *nix. http://freshmeat.net/projects/mbx2mbox/ I was looking for something to port Eudora Pro mail files to Linux, and had a bit of frustration and problems and then it didn't really do that well of a job. But check out that app above. Maybe it will work. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | | I am still a captive of Windows, mainly because I depend on Autocad and I | have a relatively huge mail archive stuck in Outlook Express. | | Because of this dependency I find that while I am in Windows I make full use | of it's other facilities - Office97 etc. and only try to familiarise myself | with MLinux in my 'spare' time. | | I would very much like to take the plunge and go full-time Linux but I want | to bring my mail archives with me in some form where I can consider them MY | files - such as delimited ascii at worst or an accessible indexed database | format at best. | | So, does anyone know of: | a) a prog that will convert OE files | b) a draghting package similar to Autocad for Linux. | | TIA | | Dave S. | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 9:05PM up 20 days, 9:45, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] web page woe's
24-net... which one? Are you running off a RoadRunner connection? They closed down port 80 after the CodeRed fiasco. So you'd have to change the port you use for your webserver in httpd.conf to something like port 90. That's what most people do. http://name.dns.com:90/ is how you'd access it. But make sure you have the processes running. Run these commands. [root@r2d2 /root]# /etc/init.d/httpd status Apache is running. httpd: 1308 19629 19628 19627 19310 19309 19308 19307 1074 Apache-mod_perl is running. httpd-perl: 1064 1063 1062 1061 1060 Use /etc/init.d/httpd extendedstatus for more information. [root@r2d2 /root]# /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo eth0 /Devices that are down: Devices with modified configuration: [root@r2d2 /root]# /etc/init.d/sshd status sshd (pid 709) is running... If you get output similar to that, then you should be able to acquire connections from the outside world. By default, Mandrake 8.0 does not install Bastille, and even if you do have iptables installed, there aren't any set up to block certain traffic. First thing, make sure you can ping the machine. Can you ping your work machine? There might be something on your work firewall that's denying you. So do some testing on both sides to find out where the problem is. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | I have a little problem. I set up a web page on my linux mandrake 8.0 | server and am unable to get to it remotely. | | I can connect to it on a small local network (3 winblows systems and a | mandrake server) by typing in the ip of the local address (192.xxx.x.x) | or the external ip(24.x.x.x)but as soon as I try to connect from out side | ie work there is no trace. no ping no telnet no ssh no nothing. | | I am not running a firewall (to my knowledge). Any help would be great. | | | Lost in Linux | | Mike | | | | Get your own free email account from | http://www.popmail.com | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 9:20PM up 20 days, 10 hrs, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] limit of cat5 cables? (length)
Actually, there's no tested maximum length for CAT5. However if you're going by the specs, 100M is the max between some sort of device. Whether it's a repeater, a hub or something. Many of use have done networks where we've used CAT5 much longer then 100M for whatever reason, and have had no problem. But, for those of you who have gone through MCSE or Cisco, or any network training, they say the spec is 100M, for performance. The instructor will also tell you after you've learned the spec, and passed the test, forget the spec! In the real world, you do what works. More then 100M of CAT5, works. I think many of us can attest to that. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | | Heh, I've run many single drops of over 200 meters on Cat-5e using | 100BaseT w/o problems to connect buildings together. | | Everything is in the shielding. | | -JMS | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Kasky | |Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:19 PM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: Re: [newbie] limit of cat5 cables? (length) | | | | | |Quoting liberally from Ethernet Networks by Gilbert Held: | | | |The IEEE 8023 standard for 10BASE-T using unshielded twisted | |pair at 10 Mbps, maximum segment length is 100 meters or 328 feet... | | | |Now if you want to get really technical, the 100 meters was originally | |meant to consist of 3 segments. | |The first segment can be up to 90 meters from a patch panel to a wall | |plate. Segments 2 and 3 which can be up to 10 meters in | |length allow for | |patch cables at each end of the link. | | | |You are well within the maximum length and it's a lot cheaper than a | |wireless solution. | | | |At 05:37 PM Saturday, 11/10/2001, Paul wrote -= | |Hi, everybody. I have a DSL connection coming in to the upstairs | |computer. I'd like to connect (withought having to get a new | |modem) a | |computer downstairs to the same connection. Can I send a cat5 cable | |down throught the wall from the router to the downstairs computer? | |(approx. 30-40 feet) Is there a limit to cat5 length in order to | |remain effective? Do I need a wireless solution? is that even safe? | | | |Ed Kasky | |Los Angeles, CA | |. . . . . . . . | |My friend has a baby. I'm recording all the noises | |he makes so later I can ask him what he meant. | |--Steven Wright | | | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 2:50PM up 19 days, 3:30, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MSI KT266A and Athlon 1800+ Wooohooo!!! but a tiny problem. 3073.64 BOGOMIPS!
Did you do any sort of compile for this other kernel? OR was it a rpm install? If so, you may want to try uninstalling the kernel, then installing it again. It will then try and rebuild it, and it may work then. Just a suggestion. Another suggestion, don't install 8.1. Install 8.0. 8.1 has been nothing but hassles for us here, and a lot of people on th elist have found problems with it as well. I would suggest 8.0. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | Hi all, | | Tonight I went over and upgraded my CPU and Motherboard to the above | system.. | | It now gets 3073.64 Bogomips... (was 2779.72 with a standard Athlon 1.4) | | | Anyway, the upgrade went flawlessly till I went to boot mandrake 7.2 | | It started, then started framebuffer, then detected the drives, | then it stopped at this: | | ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14 | ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irg 15 | | it hadn't locked up, because the caps and number lock keys still worked.. it | just sat there doing nothing... for ages, I let it go for 30 minutes and | nothing changed. that was kernel 2.2.19-5.1mdksecure I could find nothing in | the logs to detail the problem but didn't expect to, because at this stage, | it isnt' writing anything to the logs. | | Then I did the 3 finger salute and selected the default 2.2.17-26 kernel... | | that worked, and it booted up.. | | So my question is, why does it boot 2.2.17, but not 2.2.19??? I don't want | to leave it like this because 2.2.17 was buggy and had security flaws didn't | it? | | (I tried to boot 2.2.19-4.1mdksecure as well, same problem as 5.1,, sat | there doing nothing.) | | I will be upgrading the system to mdk8.1 in a week or so, but I want this | thing to be secure until then.. | | Can anyone make any suggestions? | | One last observation, is that kudzu and harddrake could not load anythign | for the chipset, harddrake showed 4 unknown VIA other devices which was to | be expected, but the system worked well enough otherwise.. (except for the | 2.2.19 kernels.) | | | rgds | | Frank. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Uptime --- 4:01PM up 19 days, 4:41, 3 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.05, 0.01 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] avi files
I decided to try this xmovie you're talking about since Mplayer is pretty ugly and it acts up when you try and resize the window while watching a movie. But I'm running into problems with the install. demux_qt.c:44:18: zlib.h: No such file or directory demux_qt.c: In function `quicktime_read_moov': demux_qt.c:3182: `z_stream' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3182: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once demux_qt.c:3182: for each function it appears in.) demux_qt.c:3182: parse error before `zstrm' demux_qt.c:3214: `zstrm' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3214: `alloc_func' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3214: parse error before `0' demux_qt.c:3215: `free_func' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3215: parse error before `0' demux_qt.c:3216: `voidpf' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3216: parse error before `0' demux_qt.c:3222: warning: implicit declaration of function `inflateInit' demux_qt.c:3223: `Z_OK' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3227: warning: implicit declaration of function `inflate' demux_qt.c:3227: `Z_NO_FLUSH' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3228: `Z_STREAM_END' undeclared (first use in this function) demux_qt.c:3239: warning: implicit declaration of function `inflateEnd' demux_qt.c: At top level: demux_qt.c:2638: warning: `quicktime_trak_init_audio' defined but not used make[3]: *** [demux_qt.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/software/tarballz/xine-lib-0.9.4/src/demuxers' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/software/tarballz/xine-lib-0.9.4/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/software/tarballz/xine-lib-0.9.4' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Where do I get this Quicktime mess it's talking about. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | If you've got Mandrake8.1 there ia a program called xmovie. If you don't | have it go to sourceforge with the address http://xine.sourceforge.net and | download an excellent media player. It's still in beta, but it should help | you. Cheers and good luck. | | Craig Williamson | | -Original Message- | From: mnu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:12 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [newbie] avi files | | | | Does anyone know of any program that would allow me to view .avi files in | linux? | | Thanks | | Meg | -Uptime --- 6:28AM up 15 days, 19:08, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word
Personally I love vi. I actually use ViM, but it's the same thing. I only use 3 editors. vim gvim (ViM just a GUI from of it. It's kinda nice.) nedit (Which is a lot like EditPad, for those of you who know what EditPad is. I hope he makes a *NIX clone of EditPad one day!) I've heard a lot of people like mcedit, and slew of other things, I like the basics. I type about 80 words a minute, so vi is perfect for me. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:38PM up 11 days, 2:40, 4 users, load averages: 0.17, 0.07, 0.02 | Hey guys, | | Can you tell me what good editors there are besides vi, pico..blah!, | abiword and kword?? | | | Thank ya much! | | | Andrew | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] point one?
I agree! That's one real annoying thing about Netscape. I would suggest to you Opera then. I think I have like 8 diferent browsers installed on my machine, but that's the one I use. I use Netscape for the JAVA applets like chat.yahoo.com and things like that, but for the most part, I don't use Nutscrape at all. And Galeon should work in KDE form what I understand. I use Enlightenment on my workstation at home, and at other remote offices I use Afterstep. (Afterstep isn't bad, but I like Enlightenment much better!) I then use FVWM2 at work. KDE was too Windows-y for me. I was trying to distance my self from Windows all together! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:41AM up 8 days, 22:42, 6 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | on 10/3/01 10:12 AM, Tim Holmes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I've never used Galeon, but mainly because I've always just disliked GNOME. | The only thing I like about GNOME would be GIMP. But I really like Opera! | | I still haven't found a unix web browser I really like yet. I just tried | Galeon for the first time last night, and it looks promising. But only if it | works in KDE, I also don't like gnome. | | Never any font problems, and one thing I've hated about Netscape, is it's | resizing issue. | | What I've hated about Netscape for years is that resizing the window causes | Netscape to rerequest the webpage. Its already got the *$(ing data, just | reflow it! | | Matt | | | _ | Do You Yahoo!? | Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] attachments in every message??
Yeah, they just started this, what... a month ago! It's a bit annoying, but I know nothing's going to be done about it any time soon. I'm on like 10 lists, and the Mandrake ones are the only ones that are doing this. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:48PM up 9 days, 2:49, 4 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00 | I recently signed back up to the expert and newbie lists | for mandrake in anticipation of the new 8.1 release and | find that something is different with the list. | It may have been discussed before but now EVERY message | I have gotten today has had a 'message.footer' file attached | to it. Is this normal?? | | -- | Carl Lafferty | Sys Admin | Floyd County Public Library | www.fclib.org | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Command not found
Sounds like you don't have your $PATH defined. Type this command, as the user, and let us know what you get. /bin/echo $PATH As the user, you should get something like this in return: [timh@r2d2 timh]$ /bin/echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/timh/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games The fact that you actually can log in and get a prompt, that means that user does have a shell, but since it can't find where the commands are, that's what makes me think that the PATH is not defined. To define the $PATH, add this line to your $HOME/.bash_profile. PATH=$PATH And then add the word PATH to the end of the line that reads export. So it will then look like this most likely: export BASH_ENV=$HOME/.bashrc PATH If you have more things there, that's fine, but make sure you add the PATH there, and the PATH line in your ~/.bash_profile. That should then fix that command not found problem. As far as the admin rights... There are things that will allow you to do that, but personally, as a Systems Admin, I would say stay away from them. It's much better and much more secure to just use the already existing super-user account. If you need to do something, login as root, then logout when you're done. I would really like it if Mandrake would actually do what FreeBSD does. Where only users in the wheel group can su - root and then gain root access. But I'm not sure if that's every been considered or even suggested. But that's just me. Hope that helps you, if not, let us know. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:22AM up 7 days, 21:23, 3 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.01, 0.00 | Hi, | I successfully solved the partition problem by creating a partition first, | then delete and reallocate it during the install. | However, when I went into console using the ALT + CTRL + F1, login, but | when i type any command, even ls, they say command not found, but under | root, i can use those command, Please assist. | I also help in this... Windows 2k allows user to be assigned administrator | rights, does linux allows that? How do I go about doing it? | | Thanks, | Regards, | Loke Kit Kai | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Command not found
I would suggest running through these steps. = 1) Login as root a) As root, edit the /etc/passwd. To do that type the command vipw. This will give you a vi editor that will edit the passwd file. b) Find your user, and change the shell, which is at the end of the line to /bin/bash. c) Copy the default envirnment files to the home directory. cd /etc/skel cp .bashrc .bash_profile /home/USERID cd /home/USERID chown USERID:USERID * 2) Logout as root. 3) Login as your user USERID. a) Run these commands. which ls which vi which echo b) If those commands give you: /bin/ls /bin/vi /bin/echo c) Then your shell is working properly, and your path is set up. You should be able to now use ls, vi, and others with out getting the command not found error. = As others have mentioned, the root account is not to be taken lightly. You could remove every file on your machine with the root user. All you need to do is type the command in the right place, or have a typo in one command and do the same. Some people are so paranoid about the root user, they disconnect their machine from the Internet to do work as root! That's how sacred the root user is! So if you need admin work done, use the command, su -, to become the root user, do your work, and then logout as root. Never login to Xwindows as root, and never leave yourself logged in as root. There are ways to your user up to perform root functions, but I HIGHLY advise AGAINST it! It's a very bad idea. Just like Sridhar mentioned, bad with a capital B! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:21PM up 7 days, 23:23, 5 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.02, 0.01 | Thanks for prompt reply | This is wat i have for path | /usr/local/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/X11R6/bin | | I can't edit the file because I don't have access to vi either... I can't | even ls... but can cd... | | Thanks again | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux again!
I agree with Charles. Boot into failsafe, and disable VMC at boot, and disable Aurora. In my cases, I've had it where with Aurora, it freezes at VNC, but if I disable Aurora, it will run the VNC server with no problem. But you don't need that started at boot. Run the command ntsysv. Find the VNC stuff in there, and un-select it. It can take up some of your computing power, and it's easily started via a command. From there you can use it and learn to play with it. It's not a bad app though. http://www.tridiavnc.com/ Check there for more information. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 2:19PM up 8 days, 1:21, 4 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 | Dear All, I went through this last week because of Netscape. I have LM8 just |reinstalled got everything tweaked and last I decided to add the VNC rpms, because |after reading about how you can share internet connections cross-platform with it I |thought that it sounded great. Today when I booted up and it got to the VNC server on |the boot text screen it would just hang. I have to reboot every time now and cannot |get past that. How may I get into Linux and undo the VNC rpms so that I do not have |to reinstall? I really do not wish to reinstall since I have to find new printer |drivers each time and tweak for days. | | Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. | | Sincerely, | | Marcia -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File size limit exceeded
I've seen this a few times, and I can't remember what caused it. I'll check through my notes when I get home. Do you get the same information if you type: su - You really should use that instead of just su. With the - in there, it loads that users environment. If you just do a su, it still uses your environment. (i.e. ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.aliases, etc;) Try that, and I'll get back with you when I find out what causes it. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:46PM up 8 days, 2:48, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 | Hello: | | Yesterday, I installed Bastille and as far as I could tell everything was | configured properly. I installed the program while in a user's directory | (not root) but as root in a terminal (hope it makes sense). Well, in any | case, I typed exit at the terminal to get back into user, but when I tried to | regain roots I got this error message: File Size Limit Exceeded. Any ideas | what the problem might be and/or possibly the fix? I checked the partitions | by typing df and as far as I can tell, I have plenty of room left (I have | pasted a copy of the output below): | | FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on | /dev/hda5 2.3G 1.2G 938M 58% / | /dev/hda7 1.5G 31M 1.4G 2% /home | /dev/hda1 33G 3.4G 29G 10% /mnt/windows | | I can still log out and log in as root, but I rather not have to do it. I | normally will type su at the terminal when I need to perform root | functions. Thanks | | Regards, | | Dexter | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail in Schedule
For something like that, you'd have to set up a custom cron job to do that. Just the basic configs for fetchmail won't let you do something like that. So you'd have to set up a cron, saying, on certain days, between the hours of __ and __ run fetchmail, then run it at __ on the weekends. It's been a while since I've set up a cron, so I'm not sure how to go about it. Check the docs, and I'm sure there are people on the list that are proficient with setting up a cron job. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:04PM up 8 days, 9:06, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Hi! | | Did anyone know how to configure a fetchmail running as schedule. I like to | run my fetchmail only in office hour . Saturday and Sunday only run at | mid-night in every 1 hour | | Best Regards, | SKLIM | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Webmin
And keep in mind Marcia. If you've changed your root passwd from what it was at install, you will have to use the root passwd that you used AT install. You may also have to edit the /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf to make it work. Depending on if SSL is compiled and installed, or configured. You may need to change the line that reads ssl=1 you may need to set that to ssl=0 to get that to come up. After you do that, restart the webmin and you should be good to go. I really only use webmin to use the ssh module. I set it up so my user can log in, and then only use the Java ssh module on Windows machines that don't have a ssh client. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 6:45AM up 6 days, 17:46, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 | On Monday 01 October 2001 00:11, Marcia wrote: | Dear All, | | I have started to setup webmin because I would like to learn to use it for | sharing files between my LM8 on my desktop and my laptop that has a | Win98/LM8 dualboot. Also, I would like to share an internet connection | between all if possible. I do not know the first thing about any of this. I | have read many articles about networking, samba, etc., however, with so | many options I am more confused than ever. | | Could anyone lead me to information that would help me to use Webmin to | connect my computers for file sharing and internet sharing? Do I have to | use Samba? What would be the the most simple and secure way? Thanks for any | help with this project. | | Sincerely, | | Marcia | Samba for filesharing | DrakGateway for internet sharing--no need for webmin there. | Samba also has a very complex tool for setup by browser called SWAT. | | But to start Webmin, just fire up netscape or mozilla | | https://127.0.0.1:1 | login root | password (your root password) | | It is all GUI from there, and it has a lot of clickable help--you want the | servers tab. | | Civileme | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] installs don't run
That's why it's so important to read the install instructions, ESPECIALLY in a tar.gz. To run the installation script: 1. Change to the directory containing the installation script. If you are installing Acrobat Reader from a CD-ROM, change to the appropriate directory on the CD-ROM. 2. Start the installation script. The filename of the script may be uppercase or lowercase depending on your system for example: # ./INSTALL 3. Follow the instructions that appear on your screen. This isn't one of those ./configure make make install sort of installs. They have their own install script, that goes through and does the install for you, you just have to execute it. So as root, type: ./INSTALL This would be in the ILINXR.install directory that the tar.gz creates. The above is in the INSTGUID.TXT that's in the directory. It's near the bottom, but it's in there. Make sure you find something like that in a README or some sort of *.txt file when you're installing software from source. There are often added things you will have to do, to get the software to work. So head to that directory now, and then use the directions above. From there, I would create an alias, or a sym-link since it puts the app in a weird folder. (/usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:19PM up 7 days, 2:21, 4 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.02, 0.00 | This has happened to me a number of times, but here is | the current instance. | | I've downloaded a gz copy of the Acrobat reader and | successfully decompressed it by using tar xzvf | filename. Next, I am supposed to be able build either | by typing make, or, in this case, INSTALL. | | There is no make file but there is a file named | INSTALL. But typing make, as you would expect, says | there is none; and, typing INSTALL returns no such | command. It doesn't recognize INSTALL as an | executabe. (There is an asterisk after the name when | it is listed.) | | Although I don't remember the specifics (and it has | not always been an install that I've tried) there have | been many occassions when simply entering a file name | does nothing (nore does single or double clicking in | KDE or Gnome. | | = | If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not |achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be meetings. |-- Dave Barry | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LimeWare Install issue
And it should have been obvious to me, lol, but it wasn't. I kept wondering why I could download something when I was root, but couldn't as a user. (I thought the runlime script would INSTALL it, not just run a JAVA applet.) After a few tries, it dawned on me, DOH You don't have permissions to the download directory! So I thought I'd share that with the list before somebody made the same silly mistake! :0) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:32AM up 5 days, 14:34, 2 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00 | On Saturday 29 September 2001 10:58 pm, you wrote: | I finally got it installed and working, but a tip to everybody real quick. | | Make sure, if you're running the script as a user, that you have the | correct permissions on the directory that you chose to house the downloads. | | Running it as root, I had no problem, I downloaded two songs I was looking | for, then I quit out of it. I then tried to see if I could run it as a | user, since it didn't really install the app at all, and it would just say, | can't download. It then hit me, the folder that it was putting the files, | was NOT accessable by the user. So I could run it, but I couldn't actually | download anything. | | So keep that in mind! Make sure, if you're not running it at as root, and | you never should run that as root, that you have the correct permissions on | the download folders. | tdh | | Good Tip. I just figured that to be obvious. I tend to overlook things like | that when explaining. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail
Fetchmail does exactly what it the name implies. Nothing more. It fetches mail, from a remote server, and puts it on the local machine. From there you can do anything you want with it. What you can do is, set up the Linux box to download mail vial fetchmail, and put the mail in $MAIL for each user. From there, you can set up Outlook Express to download mail from your Linux box. I did this for a while, before I got my cable connection. I had one Windows machine, that was not on the Internet, and one Mandrake 7.2 machine that was on a DialUp connection. I'd download mail to the Linux box over the modem, and via the network, I'd send mail out from my Linux box, and get the email my Linux box would download. But fetchmail on a Linux box, will just put the mail in Outlook Express' mail folders, you'll still have to download the mail, even if it just from a server on your local network. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:50PM up 5 days, 9:52, 3 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.02, 0.00 | Hello: | | I understand fetchmail is an email retrieval system, which will obtain emails | from a remote email server and distribute them to the local network. | Currently, I have a two pc lan, where my second pc is a win98 box. Does | anybody know if fetchmail will work with outlook express? Meaning, is it | possible to configure fetchmail so it will go to the proper email server, d/l | the emails and if necessary send the appropriate emails to my outlook express | client in my win98 box? Thanks... | | Dexter | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LimeWare Install issue
I finally got it installed and working, but a tip to everybody real quick. Make sure, if you're running the script as a user, that you have the correct permissions on the directory that you chose to house the downloads. Running it as root, I had no problem, I downloaded two songs I was looking for, then I quit out of it. I then tried to see if I could run it as a user, since it didn't really install the app at all, and it would just say, can't download. It then hit me, the folder that it was putting the files, was NOT accessable by the user. So I could run it, but I couldn't actually download anything. So keep that in mind! Make sure, if you're not running it at as root, and you never should run that as root, that you have the correct permissions on the download folders. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:55PM up 5 days, 9:57, 3 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 | | If you are interested in sharing files it's worth while checking out two | other packages. giFT and Xnap | | giFT is a reverse engineering of the FastTrack file sharing network used by | kazaa and Morpheus It allows you to share files with kazaa and morpheus users. | | giFT is only a back end. You need a front end to go with it. I have tried | two. giFT-Zombie (formerly known as Halo-Kazaa) and Xnap. My favourite is | Xnap It is more mature and is real easy to use. Xnap is a Java application. | The only thing to look out for is you should uninstall Kaffe and use the Sun | Java VM. | | Using giFT there is loads of content available, without having to go anywhere | near Windoze. | | | | | Derek | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hayes external modem
I've seen a lot of hardware modems now saying they out right support Linux. As well as a few NICs. But the thing is, if you have a hardware modem, then it's not an issue of software like it is with Winmodems. The machine knows what needs to be sent to the modem, and the modem understands that. So as long as the modem is a HARDWARE modem, it's supported under Linux. I've had two Creative ModemBlasters and they've both worked very well. The first one just died on me for no reason. I may have put something it that fried something or knocked something loose. I don't know. But now I'm a cable connection so I don't have much need for a POTS line modem! :0) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 9:15AM up 20:16, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 | This is for the interest of anyone who is planning on buying a Linux | compatible external modem. | | The Hayes external fax modem. It is priced around $80.00. | | The best thing about it that right on the box it claims Linux compatible. | Basically, after I installed the PPP Daemon and set up my Internet | connection had no trouble finding and working with it. | | I managed to log on through Linux and do a little surfing. Personally, I | don't care much for Netscape. I understand many of you might be using Opera | which I tried last year and don't care much for either. The update package | deal was very interesting for updating my Linux-Mandrake 7.2 with the latest | updates. Even at 43Kps it still took sometime to finish the updating of the | list. | | All in all I enjoyed and recommend the Hayes external modem. The only | trouble now is setting up to look at email but keeps asking me for a user | name but doesn't seem to keep the information. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] M$ Works file format
Do y'know how funny that Micro$HAFT made a program called Works just like the rest of their products, it's horrible. Microsoft Works makes just laugh doesn't it? Well on to why I'm emailing. My girlfriend likes to write in M$ Works, and then later emails me some of the things for my proof reading. Well what do I opent these up in? I tried to open them in Star Office, and unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to open them. I just have to look at the text and read what's not in mark up text. Does anybody have anything they can suggest to open and view these files. Maybe even edit them a little? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:45PM up 1 day, 10:47, 3 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] does anyone want this??
DShield.org asked for the logs pertaining to the CodeRed and CodeRed II attacks. I'm not sure if they're asking for things having to do with Nimda. Check their webpage, they may way those as well. My cable provider shutdown port 80 and port 443 after the fiasco from CodeRed, so I don't have anything in my log coming through port 80. Also check incidents.org, they may want the logs as well. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:55pm up 1 day, 16:38, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.03, 0.01 | Hi all, | | Is there anyone or company that would want a list of over 3500 unique IP | address's of servers infected with code red, code red II or other variants | or Nimda??? | | Someone who is not a hacker??? | | Is there a place where you can submit this things that will try to inform | the company in question??? | | just thought they may be of some use to a security company... | | rgds | | Frank | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot get into Linux
What was the command typed then? If the command was typed out correctly, it woul have worked just fine. rm -Rf ~/.kde This wil remove the directory that keeps all the PERSONAL kde configs on your machine. If you get rid of that, you should be able to basically start all over with out them, and they will be made as you start to login. You said you can't load any other windows managers either. How did you go about loading them? If you're in level 3, you'll have to edit the ~/.xinitrc to load the right windows manager. Try editing your ~/.xinitrc to load another windows manager. Try these commands. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ which enlightenment /usr/X11R6/bin/enlightenment [timh@r2d2 timh]$ echo exec enlightenment ~/.xinitrc [timh@r2d2 timh]$ chmod +x ~/.xinitrc After you've done that, run xinit or startx. You should then load Enlightenment. Just click the middle mouse button and then select Log Out to get out of Enlightenment. That will prove that X is running fine, and it's KDE that's the problem. But I do believe if you run the correct command, (rm -Rf ~/.kde) your problem will be fixed. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 4:18pm up 1 day, 20:01, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 | Dear All, Thank you so much for the wonderful suggestions. Civilme, I tried | your solution below, however I just got an erro message that it was an | incorrect command. I was able to get to a console though through F3 I | believe and found my files in text mode. It seemed that I was able to move | around there without a problem but I cannot get KDE up or any other window | manager. Since I can get into my filesystem through the console what can I | do about repairing my X, window managers or whatever is truly wrong here. | Thanks for your help. | | Sincerely, | | Marcia | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Sig file, was Re: [newbie] Me, Linux, or my !@#$%^ ISP
Honestly, I only know enough about pine, that I hate it! lol So I wouldn't know what needs to go in a ~/.pinerc, but hey. If it doesn't work, you can just take it out of there! There are other ways of doing it, and I've known some people to write a script that does all the work for them, but I went with the simple way of doing it. (Mainly because I wasn't into writing scripts when I set that, so I wouldn't have known how to do it any way! :0) Let us know if that does indeed work. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 1:17pm up 17:00, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Cool! Thanks, man! Wonder if that'll work in my pinerc... | | Only one way to find out, eh? ;-) | | peace, | | Rog | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] de-activating network card in cron
Do you want to bring down the network period, or just the NIC? To shut down the network: /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop To start it again, just replace the 'stop' with start and it will come back up. To drop the network device here's the command you'll need. /sbin/ifconfig eth0 down Again, replace the 'down' with up and it will do the job for you. I would suggest going more with the /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop/start then the ifconfig command. Not sure why'd you'd need to do this, but necessity is the Mother of all invention huh? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:17am up 4 days, 17:54, 8 users, load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.01 | because of a network problem that i keep having with my linux box i need to | de-activate the network card for a the period between 3-5 am, what | command(s) would i use to do this?? | | cheers | | Jamie | | _ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MD Walkman USB connection
This may be slightly off topic, but since there are so many people on the list, maybe somebody has heard of something that might help me. I just replaced my portable MiniDisc player. The newer ones of course support a USB connection so you can load MP3s and record CDs to the MiniDiscs. Does anybody know of anybody that's gotten this to work? Where they can transfer MP3s over to the MiniDisc player? Or anything like that. My sister's machine is a dual boot machine. She only uses Windows to play Unreal Tourey The Sims. I could use that, but I'd rather just use Linux. Does anybody have any experience of suggests about this? Thanks everybody! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:05pm up 1:48, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Me, Linux, or my !@#$%^ ISP
I got to the list too late! (See what happens when you actually work for an hour! :0) I've had this happen to be before with other settings. Where I'd try and change the settings with a GUI, and instead of overwritting the settings, it just kept adding to them! In a lot of cases, what happens, is it will actually try the first server, then the second, then the third, and so on. But the page times out before it finds the correct DNS. In your case, I think it's KPPP that's adding all these additions to your /etc/resolv.conf. One suggestion I'd keep, is find another set of DNS servers, and keep them handy. Just to test with. I used to work at an ISP, and I use those from time to time just to test. NIC.ic.net internet address = 152.160.1.1 IUNET.ic.netinternet address = 152.160.1.3 NOC.ic.net internet address = 207.40.105.33 I use those from time to time, for testing purposes and to make sure I have access to certain parts of the outside world. But after a while you're start to recognize things, of Hey, that means there's something wrong with and you'll start coming up with answers like these. It's more about trial and error then it is experience! :0) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:14pm up 3 days, 19:51, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | | Thanks Michael. Yes my ISP had changed their DNS. They gave me the new | DNS numbers to put into windo$es which fixed windo$es. I put the same | numbers into KPPP. That helped for a while and then I could not get it | to work anymore. | | I checked my /etc/resolv.conf file and it had about 100 entries for the | old DNS and a pair for the new DNS. I made a copy of the original then | delete all the old entries. Now linux is working again. How do you | people figure this out!!! It must be a terrible burden to be that | knowledgeable!!! Many many thanks Michael. | | Have a nice day | Charles | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] letting computer run overnight without overheating
As many of the people here have said, as long as you have good temp monitors on the motherboard (which most newer models do have) and your fan is working you'll be fine. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ uptime 12:30pm up 57 days, 16:02, 27 users, load average: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 That machine doesn't even have a system fan. Just the fans on the CPU and the video card. The case does a very good job of moving the air through though. But we have machines that are the size of a book that have a laptop HDD, ram and all that good stuff, stuffed in a rack and maintain temps of 40 degrees Celius at times. They stay up for years (Barring no problems with them that is.) So you should be okay. Your house won't burn down while you're asleep! And in most cases, the alarm on the motherboard will go off and scare the mess out of you before that happens! (I've heard that sound before! Didn't want to use the CPU fan since it was so loud!) I also disagree with the idea of prolonged use of hardware wares it out. It's the spinning up of the harddrives and firing up of the CPUs that are so stressful. A harddrive that spins up so often will sieze up on you. I have 2 GB harddrives that were given to me 3rd or 4th hand. All the servers it once resided in, were production servers for whatever reason, and were were 24/7. I use them as SWAP for various machines, and have absolutely no problem with them. They actually run cooler then the newer HDDs I have. But you'll be okay! I understand the complaint of the boot up time. One reason why I love FreeBSD so much. I can reboot my FreeBSD server two or three times in the time it would take my Mandrake workstation to just go down! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:30pm up 3 days, 20:07, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | | hi, I should ask my pc vender about this, but everyone here knows so much | more, I just couldn't help but to ask here. | | I have a pc with celeron 633 mhz processor with intel 810e motherboard, will | | it be safe if I try to let it on overnight? I love Mandrake and have been | using it forever since 7.2, but it takes so long to boot up whenever I want | to use it and I couldn't use the built in Standby mode because that seems to | | be only working with windows. I am hoping to be able to just leave it on | all day long that I don't have to watch it boot up. | | Most computers in school are ran 24/7, but they are mostly all air | conditioned and mostly are not placed near books. Does anyone know if it is | | safe for a home user to leave his/her computer on continuously? | | Thanks very much for your help | | Eric | | _ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] so many shells?
I would leave them in place personally. They don't take much space, and they can be useful for those that write scripts with a certain shell because of the pros that shell can offer. It's also good to go and learn each of the shells if you're all about learning any and everything about Linux that you can. As well as some of those shells are actually just linked to another shell! lol [timh@r2d2 /bin]$ ls -la *sh -rwxr-xr-x1 root root66556 Dec 5 2000 ash -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 437052 Mar 29 02:42 bash lrwxrwxrwx1 root root3 Jun 30 08:28 bsh - ash lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Jun 30 08:31 csh - tcsh lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Jun 30 08:24 sh - bash -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 288796 Mar 12 2001 tcsh lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 14 Jun 30 09:28 zsh - ../usr/bin/zsh So some of those aren't taking up any real space as you can see there. I'd just leave them as is. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:44am up 4 days, 8:21, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On my system I have ash, sash, tcsh, zsh... Do I need these if I always | use bash??? | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Sig file, was Re: [newbie] Me, Linux, or my !@#$%^ ISP
I have a line in my ~/.muttrc that goes in and adds that to the end of
my signature. There are various ways to do this, but here's how I do
it.
set signature='cat /home/timh/.signature ; echo Uptime: ; echo
;uptime; echo
|'
I put that all on one line in my ~/.muttrc and it adds that in there.
You can off course get rid of some of the information, or change how
it's presented, or even just print out the uptime by cutting out what
you want with a command like:
[timh@eric timh]$ uptime | awk '{print $2,$3,$4}'
up 4 days,
That's not my home workstations, which has a much better uptime to look
at, but I've not going through and created a script to pull that
information. But:
[timh@r2d2 timh]$ uptime
11:09pm up 58 days, 2:41, 23 users, load average: 0.06, 0.06, 0.08
Would like a lot better at the end of a signature! ;0)
tdh
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| Hey Tim, how do you get your uptime to appear in your sig file?
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Re: [newbie] update time over internet
Does anybody know where to find a list of other NTP servers? I used to know a few of them off the top of my head, and now I don't remember their names any more. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:42pm up 23:21, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | This is what I use. Im in the central standard time. | | rdate -s clock-1.cs.cmu.edu hwclock --systohc | | | On Sunday 16 September 2001 07:34 pm, you wrote: | Hi, I read somewhare about setting up a recurring program to update my | system time by checking the time on internet time servers. My system | clock goes out of sync with the world's clocks after it wakes up from | suspend (laptop), I need a program to reset the time after wake up. | | I seem to recall something about a program (i believe it was called) | rdate. Anybody know how to do this? | | -Paul Rodríguez | | | _ | Do You Yahoo!? | Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] update time over internet
I've been toying with the idea of installing 8.1, but I don't have an available testbed right now. My workstation is too important, especially now, for me to install the beta, and my two other testbeds are in use right now. But I did find a page that had some links to NTP servers. http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm Check that out. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! -- | On Monday 17 September 2001 21:42, Tim Holmes wrote: | Does anybody know where to find a list of other NTP servers? I used to | know a few of them off the top of my head, and now I don't remember | their names any more. | tdh | | | Try a Mandrake Install of 8.1 Beta 3--Beaucoup servers listed there. | | Civileme | | There is also a site of them, but I forget where. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Uptime -- 3:56pm up 23:34, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Licq
What about a Groupware app like the one that ICQ used to make available to businesses? Is that made for *NIX? I was thinking about this a while ago, and then got to busy to ask the list. Maybe I'll send a message to the LICQ list as well to see what they know about it. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:49am up 6 days, 3:35, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Does anyone know of a linux-based ICQ-type system that I can install and run | on an intranet (ie; only in-house) ? I was able to download and try out the | intranet version of ICQ, which worked fine, until I dumped NT4. Now having | only Linux-based servers, I'm trying to get everything else back to normal as | well. | | Thanks in advance | | Lanman | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Licq
To provide a quick update here. There appears to be something that basically is GroupWare. http://freshmeat.net/projects/iserverd/ There's a link there to the webpage where to download them. They have RPMs, but they appear to be source RPMs. You'll need PostGreSQL installed. I didn't have it installed, but I downloaded the MDK RPMs from my local Linux FTP server. [root@r2d2 installed]# ls -a postgresql-* postgresql-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-python-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-devel-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-server-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-jdbc-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-tcl-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-odbc-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-test-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-perl-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm postgresql-tk-7.0.3-12mdk.i586.rpm Those are the ones I installed. Hope that helps you a little. I have the PostGreSQL stuff installed, but haven't had time to install or configure the IServerD (ISD) yet. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:22pm up 6 days, 7:08, 6 users, load average: 0.14, 0.04, 0.01 | What about a Groupware app like the one that ICQ used to make | available to businesses? Is that made for *NIX? I was thinking about | this a while ago, and then got to busy to ask the list. | | Maybe I'll send a message to the LICQ list as well to see what they know | about it. | tdh | | -- | T. Holmes | - | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - | Real Men Use Vi! | | Uptime: | | 11:49am up 6 days, 3:35, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | | | Does anyone know of a linux-based ICQ-type system that I can install and run | | on an intranet (ie; only in-house) ? I was able to download and try out the | | intranet version of ICQ, which worked fine, until I dumped NT4. Now having | | only Linux-based servers, I'm trying to get everything else back to normal as | | well. | | | | Thanks in advance | | | | Lanman | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com | | -- | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still fighting w Fetchmail Pine to receive
Sounds like you don't have fetchmail configured correctly to download mail. Did you use fetchmailconf or did you create your /root/.fetchmailrc (or /etc/fetchmailrc) by hand? Here's the format I use in my /root/.fetchmailrc. # Configuration created Sun Apr 29 13:18:35 2001 by T. Holmes set postmaster postmaster set nobouncemail set no spambounce set properties set daemon 10 poll mail.domain.com via 10.0.0.1 with proto POP3 user 'userID' there with password 'passwd' is userID here options fetchall warnings 3600 antispam 571 550 501 554 That's what I have in my /root/.fetchmailrc. Make sure the permissions for the file is 0710, then use a command like fetchmail -d 180. That will tell fetchmail to run as a daemon, every 180 seconds, or 3 minutes. From there, you should be downloading mail. As for your pine problem... personally I would suggest to stop using pine. :0) It's a resource hog, and I don't like how it handled mail. But basically it should be getting your email from $MAIL, which in Mandrake's case, that is /var/spool/mail/$USER The permissions for that should be 0600, and should be owned by the $USER and the group should be mail. Check those things out. That should be a start for ya. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 1:51am up 9:30, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Hi! | | Summary | -Mandrake 8.0 | -Postfix to send | -Fetch to fetch | -Pine to do the other stuff | | -Problem: Can send mail, cannot receive | -BTW: I can receive mail by other means, but I need to set up | fetchmail/postfix/pine so I can serve and filter mail in the near future. | | | Details of Query: | I think that my problem boils down to permissions (at least for the | moment). In pine I got a mail that I somehow generated directly (since I | can't access anything over the Net) and when I try to delete it I get a | message saying that the folder is read only. Not good. | | However, the folder is something called INBOX. It maps to a folder and | file for which I think I have permissions (read and write). So | somewhere is the configuration for INBOX. So far I have not found it | although I will continue to search via the Pine Config option. . . | | In the meantime if anyone has any suggestions I would seriously love to | hear them, whatever they might be. At this point I would willingly try | incantations, magic potions, a bit of Nostril-damus, whatever. | | Cheers! | | -w (those little blood vessels in my forehead are distended.) | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
Hey Civil, Do we know when E 0.17 will be released? Will this be included in MDK 8.1? Or at least a beta release? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:25pm up 5 days, 7:12, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Saturday 15 September 2001 19:53, Tim Holmes wrote: | Sawfish is a light WindowManager which can support GNOME as a desktop | manager. There are others not supplied by mandrake that can do the same, and | there is Enlightenment which can also rrun under GNOME. | | GNOME is a desktop environment designed to run with a compliant window | manager, not alone. | | Enlightenment is heavy on the eyecandy but surprisingly fast. Sawfish is | extremely fast which makes up for its lack of native features (except a nice | ability to run themes), so GNOME with Sawfish is much much faster than GNOME | with Enlightenment. As a result, many GNOME users would call E a resource | hog. | | Now we are approaching the time when E will have its own File manager, and | everything about E has been rewritten for reliability, modular organization, | code reuse and speed. The result is that we will likely have Four Desktop | environments to choose from, KDE, GNOME, Xfce and E version 0.17. | | The situation could be nicer for the user. We could have 5:-). | | Actually, I think the competition inspires innovation and I don't want to see | us (any of us) settle on one WM/DM any time soon. GNOME and KDE have | recently become both more and less friendly to newbies, doing more for them, | but offering a huge number of new options and a number of new features that | can best be characterized as engineer's toys. Now the new E promises a | lightweight, fast approach to doing most of the same things with the added | feature of some of the greatest eye candy available on a flat screen. | | Users will tell us by their usage patterns which idea is more viable. | | Civileme | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enlightenment vs Sawfish
I use Enlightenment, by itself. I've used it for some time now. My only complaint about it is actually an issue of Xinerama since I run DualHead on my workstation. Sridhar mentioned that Enlightenment can be a resources hog, which I've never noticed. I have a 1.2 Athlon in my machine and 768 Mb RAM, so maybe it's just that I have a lot of resources to use, but even when I was in a machine that had only a PII 400 w/128 Mb RAM, I had no problem. It was much less a resource hog then KDE, and I've always hated GNOME. (The only think I like about GNOME is the foot icon! :0) The only thing that I've noticed that runs any smoother is XFce. I also like the way it runs and handles things. If you install Enlightenment, or updated it, I would suggest you isntall the enlightenment-conf RPMs/source as well. So you have the E-Leacy tools as well. That's what I use to do some of the configurations. You can set up hotkeys for apps, you can setup the backgrounds and things like that. I have tried Sawfish, but not long enough to really know how to use it. I wasn't that impressed with my 30 seconds of use to start using it more often! :0) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:32pm up 5 days, 4:18, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Which one do most of you prefer? I use gnome, and in Mandrake 7 it | default installed Enlightenment and in 8 it defaulted to Sawfish. I'm | not sure if the features I liked in Enlightenment exist and I don't know | how to set them up, or whether they were features of Enlightenment. For | starters, my X-Windows doesn't display menu's on a rightclick on the | desktop. Is that an option in Sawfish? Heck I can't even figure out how | to change my background. I'd like to RTFM but all I can find is help | for gnome, and I'm not sure which parts are gnome and which parts are | Sawfish. | | Tips, tricks, suggestions? | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A meaningfull Subject-line would help us all
Very good point here! I for one, only respond to messages that have a subject matter that would interest me, or my knowledge would be helpful. Or if the topic becomes rather lengthy. But at the same time, sometimes it's hard to come up with a topic that really lets the list know what you need. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 2:53am up 3 days, 18:40, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Hi all | | As a 'taker' from this group rather than a contributer I suppose I have got | a cheek commenting here. I do so in the hope that one day I might have | learned enough to be able to contribute :-) | | I find this list very helpful in my struggle to learn Linux and even though | some of the topics are rather advanced for me at the moment I save them all | for future reference as, I am sure, many others do. | | The big problem is that, as a reference-archive, it sometimes stinks - wth | subject headers such as 'Lets go' and 'Nearly got it' | | Why not pay this superb list the respect it deserves by supressing the | comedian that lurks inside all of us and *always* use a meaningfull Subject | description. Then, even in years to come, we could fairly easily find some | obscure technical solution or whatever. All elementary really. | | If you disagree (perhaps you believe that Linux *should* be as difficult as | possible to learn and that even these helpfull messages should be cryptic) | then fair enough. I'm sorry I mentioned it. | If, on the other hand, you feel that we might all benefit from this | brilliant suggestion then why not give it a try. | Oh yes - and tell a friend :-) | | Incidently, it's normal to courteously ask someone not to use HTML so why | not ask them to use a meaningfull header line for future posts. | | Anything to make life easier. | | Dave S. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This is a linux mailing list -- some people pay for email access by volume
Really, just to respond to the rant here, this is a problem that a lot of ISPs run into. Here's a basic run down of why. Some ISPs don't use very advanced equipment. And even those that do, there are always issues of software and of telecommunications isssues. Some small town ISPs are, for lack of a better comment, cheap bastards. They purchase 33.6 bps modems, and have them flash upgraded to whatever standard they need. So when you dial into your ISP, you're getting one of these cheap modems. Now, when a customer logs on, and then decides they've had their fill of all things Internet, the modem doesn't kill the call. So there's a modem there, that could be used, but is not! National average, for a dialup session is between 25 and 35 minutes. Yes there are those people that spend hours upon hours on the Internet, but across the board, you can say that most people spend 30 minutes on line. So as an ISP admin, you come across busy signals for users, or some other issue(Such as percieved paranoia by the ISP in your case Randy.), they kill the call to allow others to dial in. Even on more advanced equipment, the same problem comes into play. My day job is to monitor the worlds largest dialup network. (One of our customers, and our largest customers is AOL.) We have 3Com cards in modem racks around the world that cost anywhere from $10,000 to $5,000 EACH. Some of these modem cards have 24 modems, some of them have 4 modems on them. The code itself is pretty good, and there are some customers that have hours they spend on line with no problems. But at the same time, there are other problems such as code, or errors on the circuit that give incorrect information and a call appears to be a hung call. Where the call is no longer there, but the circuit and/or modem thinks it's still being used. So to combat that, a lot of local ISPs just do resets of modems after a certain time. Some of them do it via a script, some actually go and do it manually. And for these local ISPs, if you antagonize the owner or company, they my seek you our and drop your call. (I've known this to happen!) As far as your hardware causing a disconnect, it is possible. For example, V.90 has a bug that when downloading large email attachments, it may take a piece of the data, and confuse it as a disconnect singal. When you're downloading saying a 1Mb email message, and your modem tries to renegotiate the speed, it may get 10 digits of data, then pause. Well those last 3 digits may be seen as a disconnect command, and then do so. There's also the issue of line noise. This is harder to prove, but it's very possible and does happen quite often. Right behind my house runs a major highway, with semis of all sizes flying by. Hitting a bump in the road, and a semi's bouncing and vibration can shake a telephone pole and create line noise. The only problem is, that's a draw back of analog signals, and it's hard to prove unless it was being monitored at the exact moment. So the information you were given, does hold some truth to it, but I more suspect, that in your instance, your ISP may have been irritated with your call and is doing this purposely. :0) Hope that clears things up a little for ya. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 1:55pm up 4 days, 5:41, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | rant | (Except that my ISP has changed his rules since I signed up, and now | considers that if I remain connected for more than 4 to 12 hours (I | forget the exact rules), I am hanging, and he takes it upon himself to | disconnect me. I can reconnect, but he seems to have his watchful eye | on me -- since I found out about the change in policy (I wasn't | notified), and when I called to find out what the problem was, I was | told that this policy was on the contract I signed (it isn't), and since | that phone call I'm quite certain I get disconnected more often than I | did before that phone call. (I should start a collection of logs, but | they claim that not all of the disconnections come from them -- some of | them might be from the phone company or other causes (my hardware? I | don't think so). Anyway, I didn't mean to get into that, but if anyone | knows how I can determine the cause of a disconnection not at my end of | the phone line, please let me know.) | /rant | | Here is a page I've started for the purpose of assembling information | about metered access to the Internet (or email). | |* http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Test/MeteredInternetAccess | | Thanks, | Randy Kramer -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which Kernel?
I've tried to recompile newer and older kernels on my machine. Having recompiled kernels in FreeBSD and seeing how easy it was, and how much fun it was to do it, I figured, Hey... I'll cut my kernel down to size and it will boot much faster! Well I managed to cut it down pretty well, but the problem is that it wouldn't load all the modules. I couldn't get sound to work, or NFS, or various other things to work properly. My machine did boot a little bit faster, and it would let me boot, but it wouldn't actually let me hear sound or other things I had grown accustom to. But yes, there is a file that it creates that has the information used for the kernel so you can use it some other time. It's in /usr/src/linux. If you look there you can find the config file. There's also a default config that's in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386. Hope that comes in handy. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 2:25pm up 2 days, 6:11, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 | I was asking myself if programmers that are work on Mandrake were | using original kernels( kernel.org) or modify them in some way? | | Another question is: is there a file that holds all the options | and modules used to build a kernel so it's possible to replicate | the compilation of another one with the same parameters? | | | Ragno The Spider Stefano. | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading XFree
Check out ftp.xfree86.org. In the /pub/XFree86/4.1.0 directory, download Xinstall.bin and Xinstall.sh. Run the Xinstall.sh and it will tell you what you need to download. Make sure you read through the docs though. They are very helpful, and it tells you how to determine which version of the 4.1.0 release you will need for your machine. Here's what I needed to download, and a patch. [root@r2d2 XF86]# ls -la total 31172 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jul 5 13:36 ./ drwxrwxrwx 13 root root 4096 Sep 11 08:40 ../ -rw-r--r--1 root root 5021119 Jun 6 14:55 Xbin.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 1575927 Jun 5 16:40 Xdoc.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 329177 Jun 6 14:55 Xetc.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 309738 Jun 4 17:42 Xfenc.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 16160286 Jun 4 12:48 Xfnts.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root33287 Jun 6 14:47 Xinstall.sh -rw-r--r--1 root root 132636 Jun 6 14:55 Xlib.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 687043 Jun 6 14:55 Xman.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 6810557 Jun 6 14:56 Xmod.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 529 Jun 6 14:56 Xvar.tgz -rw-r--r--1 root root 759938 Jun 6 14:56 Xxserv.tgz So check out the FTP site. It's a pretty simple install, but it took a while. I have a 1.2 Ghz Athlon, and I think it took 30 minutes to do everything. But part of it you had to answer some questions. So start it, and stick around for a few minutes, then check back on it every so often. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 8:36am up 1 day, 23 min, 5 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00 | Can someone explain me how i can upgrade my XFree from 4.0.3 (came with | PowerBox MDK 8.0) | becouse it have problems with my Voodoo 3 3000. I've tried the Mandrake 8.1 | Beta that use | the XFree 4.1.0 with kernel 2.4.8, and it works great (the X i mean) My main | problem, is that | i don't know what exactly the dependent packages i should install and how | ... | | Thanks in advance | | Michael Spivak | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hostname: bash-2.05
I can't find the original email sent on this topic, but it says that the hostname was replaced with the bash-2.05$. Are you simply referring to the prompt? Or is the hostname actually saying it's bash-2.05$? As for the request for a standard /etc/skel/.bashrc and /etc/skel/.bash_profile, here's what I have. I have edited mine a bit since I do have a few users that log on remotely to this machine. == [root@r2d2 skel]# less .bashrc # .bashrc # Source global definitions if [ -r /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi [root@r2d2 skel]# less .bash_profile # .bash_profile # Get the aliases and functions if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin USERNAME=`id -nu` USERID=`id -nu` export PATH USERNAME USERID BASH_ENV=$HOME/.bashrc == On some of my machines I actually have a simple /etc/skel/.aliases and I add a line in /etc/skel/.bash_profile that reads: souce $HOME/.aliases I'm pretty sure I just misunderstood what you were talking about with the bash-2.05$ for a hostname, but if that's the case, edit /etc/sysconfig/network to have all your correct information. Hope that comes in handy. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 9:59am up 1:45, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | | | | On Thursday 06 September 2001 13:38, you wrote: | Does the user that you were loged in have permissons on his assigned home | directory? | The same happened to my a couple of days before, and I see in LunxConf that | the home directory of the user I was logging in was created by the root and | the user ddidn't have permissons . . . | | Maybe it's just a coincidence | the user does have permissions to his home directerory, and furthermore the | same thing occurs when logged in as root. when changing directory, that | bash-2.05$ | doesn't change to bash -2.05/directory$ or anything, i am baffled | | | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of antoine rivoire | Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 7:31 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [newbie] hostname: bash-2.05 | | | hi | i think i might have seen somebody emailing about that prob before, but i | cant find it in the archive: | in term windows, my hostname has been replaced by | bash-2.05$ | anybody? | | | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit | Content-Description: | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open source hits back?
I have no problem with Linux awareness, and Get Linux buttons on webpages. But if Linux starts to use Micro$HAFT like tactics, we're becoming the same kind of evil that we've been trying to avoid. People would start saying Mandrake$HAFT, or other such references. I don't think that's what we want. Is it? I know it's not what I want. I like the Any Damn Browswer campaign, but I'd hate to cause a need for the Any Damn OS compaing as well. Some of the things mentioned there would cause more problems for basic users then it would Micro$HAFT, and in some cases may even add fuel to their fire. I'm all up for making things hard on Micro$HAFT, but I don't think this is the way we need to go about it! I really don't! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 8:05pm up 5 days, 5:29, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Got this link on another mailing list - thought someone might find it | interesting. Not such a bad idea. | | http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/9787.html | | Cheers | skinky | | _ | Do You Yahoo!? | Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Networking setup
Well the thing in Linux, is that if there are problems with an IRQ conflict, your hardware is not going to work. I ran into problems like this with one of my machines. In Windows, if there are IRQ conflicts, it will still manage to find the address for the hardware and send the correct information to it. Linux requires that you have a real IRQ for each piece of hardware. If your motherboards supports shared conflicts, make sure there are only two per IRQ, and they aren't something real serious. So, does your NIC have an IRQ? [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat /proc/interrupts | grep eth 3: 263857807 XT-PIC eth0 That means, that my NIC, which is eth0, has an IRQ of 3. If you see that, you have an IRQ. Is it recognized so the correct modules can be loaded? [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat /etc/modules.conf | grep eth0 alias eth0 3c59x That means that eth0, is actually an alias for 3c59x, which is the module that will be used. If you see those two things, then you need to configure it. You can do this via HardDrake. Going into the section for Network Device Cards, try and find your NIC. If it's in there, select it, and then run the config tool. There's a button for it there. Go through those steps. You can do this if you don't see your NIC displayed in /etc/modules.conf as well. If you've done all of that, you'll need to tell it how to acquire it's IP address. From DHCP, or will you assign one for it? You can use DrakConf, and configure the IP/Internet information there. At that point, log in as root, and type this command at a prompt. /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart It will shutdown all the network devices, and then restart them. If it's trying get a DHCP address that may take a little bit of time for it to gather. I say to do it that way, because you know if it comes back and gives you a weird error message, and you can go on from there. So start out making sure the NIC has an IRQ. If it doesn't you need to fix that first. You may try moving it to another PCI slots on your Motherboard, and then try again. I use DLink cards, 3Com cards, and NetGear cards. The DLinks cost me $20, they're 10/100, and they work beautifully. The 3Com cards are more widely supported though. Hope that helps! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 7:12pm up 4 days, 4:36, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 | Hi All, | | I am in the process of building a 3 computer network which is as | follows: | Tower acting as server | a desktop as a workstation | and a laptop workstation needs to be removable from network | | That said now the laptop has a problem the linksys EtherFast 10/100 is | not reginized hear a long and short beep when inserting. | Did some checking at Linksys web site,they say to get it to work have to | do | some compiling. heck I can just barely get things done as is. | Have tons of books on Linux,but they all talk way above me. | Does anybody know of a network card that is *no* problem?? | So far I can ping the tower at Ip address and dns. Can ping the desktop | at its IP address but not its dns. | | Hope somebody can lend a hand (not geek) | Thanks | Robert F. Trettel | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
I've been a 100% Linux user now for a year and half. I was an advanced newbie when I converted from a dual boot machine to a full time Mandrake box. I'd done UNIX administration even before that. But after all that time, I've still found a use for Micro$HAFT products! MSN sent me a disc about 8 months ago I think. The one with the kewl stylized butter fly on it. It's the coaster I use on my end tables! lol When I watch a movie, that's where I place my beverage! Looks pretty sweet actually. Other then that, I have no use for Micro$HAFT in my life. Meanwhile my girlfriend still uses Windows98, I'm working on getting her switched over to Linux as well. I've already switched my 19 year old sister over. She's been on a Linux box for 8 months now! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:30pm up 2 days, 8:54, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Thursday 06 September 2001 05:19 pm, Charles A. Punch escribió: | | I agree to some extent, but this is a newbie list. *Some* of the | newer newbies are still up to thier neck in Windows, and the Windows | mindset. I'm not knocking anyone. That Windows mindset, is something | that I have been shaking off for a few years. The more of I get off, | the better my computer serves me. | |I'm the first one to recommend to newbie's (or oldies's) that they | keep Windoze around, just don't EVER connect to the Net with it (ASAP). | |'Specially if that's with Win2k, any other NT, or the soon to be XP | (assuming anybody's dumb a'nough to buy it). This deal with raw | sockets is nothin new. Most of the problems (slow) currently being | experienced by all Net users (including Penguins), are cause by | ignorant Billy OS users flooding the net with Billy's B$ OS's crap. | |Many Win2k-NT users don't even know they've got servers running, or | that M$ email programs, or other 3rd party email apps that run on M$ | OS's are killin the NET with all their inherent virus, worm and trojan | propensities and capabilities. | |Windoze is still good for playin games on tho, don't microwave | Billy's CD's just yet ; | -- | Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how to play mov files?
Well I found a program on Freshmeat.net one weekend, however I could never get it to install. Not that I really gave it a diligent try, but I the few I did try, it didn't work. The app I found was quicktime4linux. -rw-r--r-- 1 timh timh 631944 Jul 27 09:06 quicktime4linux-1.3.tar.gz And here's the info from the README. Quicktime for Linux Author: Adam Williams[EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: heroinewarrior.com/quicktime Requires: libpthread * This is a Quicktime library for UNIX in a freely redistributable, statically linkable library. You can statically link it in a program and charge money for the program. The only condition is that if you use it in a program, you must put the author's name and email somewhere. If you improve the library itself or add a free codec to it, you should release your improvements. If you redistribute the code, you must also redistribute the author information and documentation. At this time it's very popular to license stuff under the GPL. You are free to include this library in a derived work and license the derived work under GPL. * Building: type make in the quicktime/quicktime directory. type make util to get some Small Utilities. Configuration: The file config.h defines the size of a 16 bit word and what the maximum file size is. *** * References: */ Apple's quicktime file format information: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/quicktime/qtdevdocs/REF/refQTFileFormat.htm Color space conversions: http://www.neuro.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~aly/polygon/info/color-space-faq.html Try that... maybe it will do the trick for you. But like I said, I couldn't get it to install. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:39pm up 18 days, 5:23, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 | hi! | | how do i play mov files with mandrake 8.0? i didn't find a program that | recognises quicktime files. | cheers, | | -- |, | |(o o) | +oOOO--(_)---+ | || | | H E L L M U T | | || | +---0OOO-+ | | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo | | | -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] TELNET help! Please?
Telnet is easy to use, but it's starting to be phased out because it's
insecure.
The odds are, if you're dealing with a Mandrake 8.0 install, the telnet
server is not installed. As I recall, it's not set to install
automatically. But run this command to determine if the server is
actually started.
[timh@r2d2 timh]$ rpm -qa | grep telnet
gnome-telnet-2.4-2mdk
telnet-0.17-7mdk
ktelnet-0.7b1-7mdk
As you can see, I don't have the telnet server installed. The RPM
you're looking for is telnet-server-0.17-7mdk.i586.rpm. As I recall,
it's on the first CD.
Try:
rpm -ivh telnet-server-0.17-7mdk.i586.rpm
Then try and telnet to the machine. However I would suggest you find
the OpenSSH RPMs on the disc, install those and leave telnet server
unistalled.
[timh@ericekong mandrake80]$ ls -la openssh* | awk '{print
$5,$6,$7,$8,$9}'
130192 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
31197 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-askpass-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
11513 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-askpass-gnome-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
213305 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-clients-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
151961 Apr 13 10:14 openssh-server-2.5.2p2-3mdk.i586.rpm
Those would be the RPMs you'd need to install. Hope that helps ya.
tdh
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| I have read every man page, searched the web 12 dozen times...tried
| EVERYTHING I can think of...telnet WILL NOT let me log into my server.
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| If anyone would like to help me out, please drop me an e-mail...I'm losin my
| mind here...
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| I thought telnet was supposed to be easy to use?
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Re: [newbie] Configuration Files (repost)
Well I have no idea why .*rc files are used. But I know they're basically personal config files. /etc is basically full of config files and information files. There are some scripts in there to start services. Things like /etc/modules.conf are really just informational config files. You can edit that yourself, but for the most part, Linux is what makes changes to that. But there are still things like /etc/sendmail.cf, or /etc/hosts, /etc/bashrc. If you go into /etc/init.d you will find the scripts that are used to restart services. Like /etc/init.d/network, sshd, http, postfix and more. You can do a ls in /etc/init.d to see everything in there. .*rc files that are in $HOME, are used to over ride the default *rc files. If you check, there's already a /etc/bashrc, and more. Those are looked at as soon as you get a prompt, or as soon as you run an app. Those are the defaults. Now you can edit those, but if you have several users on that one machine, they may like/want the changes you made to the config file. So you make changes to the $HOME/.bashrc instead of /etc/bashrc. The $HOME/.bashrc and files of that nature are copied into the home directories when the user is created. Those files are copied directly from /etc/skel. On FreeBSD, it will actually ask you if you would like the skel files to be copied, and you can say yay, or nay. In Linux, it does it with out asking. I'm not sure if the person that posted this message to start out with will see this, but I hope this answers somebody's questions. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 2:04pm up 15 days, 19:49, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | (I'm reposting this because it never got answered and I had flagged it | because I was waiting to hear a response. Thanks to anyone who can help. | | - Isaac) | | Hello! | | In my system, I see .bashrc, .dosemurc, .kderc, /etc/bashrc, /etc/inputrc, | /etc/rc.d etc. etc. etc. | | 1. What does rc stand for, as opposed to conf? | | 2. I read that /etc is for miscellaneous files...isn't it *only* for | configuration files? | | 3. Global user settings are stored in /etc, while personal ones are | stored as | /home/username/.somethingrc, right? | | Any help is appreciated! | | Thanks, | George | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux, Borders, and social consciousness
Yeah... see Windows provides a little bit of morality to your life. Since it's merely a vessel for porn, it crashes on you to let you know you're doing something you shouldn't be doing! lol Borders was a family owned business, and family run for the most part until it really started to take off, and then was sold to KMart. They were based out of Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Store #1 is still downtown. The Borders family has always been very nice, and very pleasant, and involved in the community. Here, in Ann Arbor, going to Borders is supporting the community. Yes there are other Mom Pop bookstores, as there's Mom Pop everything here, but Borders started out as that, and just managed to expand to such a large corporation. I've worked contracts for Borders, and as a corporation, they're just as unorganized as anybody else, but they have some very good people working at the stores all over the place. I've talked some of these people, and can attest that personally. Meanwhile the whole issue of non-union workers is a whole other debate, that's more a personal view point at this time. But not only are punishing publishers, writers, you're punishing the Mom Pop stores as well. Shoplifting is a huge reasons for markups. The publisher lose money, so then the writers lose out. Then they mark the books up more so they can make up for money lost. Not to mention the people that work in these stores becaue they're 16 and can't find anything else. The people that don't have a problem with making $8, and are glad they're getting that much, and they're not working in a fast food envirenment. There are other, more effective ways of tackling this issue of yours. But just as you have your own beliefs, you have your own methods of addressing them. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 1:02pm up 14 days, 18:47, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Don't you know big brother is always watching. Especially, un*x groups, | listserves, and irc channels. Reason why, UNIX people are the smartest | on the planet. | | BTW: Windows is only good for one thing porn. It even crashes on that, | guess that means you shouldn't look at porn. | | Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Simple eth0 question
Also the modem downloads new software for it self from time to time as well. This may have something to do with that. As far as shutting down the network, I'd use the /etc/init.d/networ stop, but ifconfig eth0 down will work as well. But the /etc/init.d/network stop shuts down all the network interfaces, not just the eth0. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:32am up 10 days, 17:17, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 | GNU/Linux isn't exactly the best OS on the planet, although it obviously | depends on how you look at it :-) | | My cable modem data light often flashes even when my computer is off. This | could be due to just about anything, ranging from a benign routine scan from | your ISP to an attempted DoS attack or worm. | | On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:45, Lanman wrote: | Under most situations this is quite accurate (There is data on the cable | side of the connection), but right now, that nasty Code Red virus is also | probing internet connections, and that will cause your data light to flash. | Since you're running the best O/S on the planet, you don't have a thing to | worry about. | | Lanman | | On Sunday 26 August 2001 06:29 am, you wrote: | The reason this occurs is because there is still data on the cable side | of the connection. The light flashes for both incoming and outgoing | wether its going to you or not. | | At 02:15 AM 8/26/2001 -0400, you wrote: | Ok, I have a cable modem hooked to eth0. I do ifdown eth0 this should | shutoff my internet connection right? If this is true, why does my cable | modems data light still flash? | | -- | Sridhar Dhanapalan. | There are two major products that come from Berkeley: | LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. | -- Jeremy S. Anderson | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy....
Congrats on your your pending nuptuals. :0) Where can I find some information on the cruise? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 4:56pm up 10 days, 22:41, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Just curious - anyone going on the Linux Lunacy 7 day cruise in the Caribeaan? | (sp?). | | Its in October, and my fiance' and I are going to use it for a honeymoon, | -'Nix- style! | | Somebody congratulate me, the date is October 19th! ;- | | -- | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] just wondering
Yeah, somebody else mentioned this to me, and also said that Pine did as well. I guess it was the version I used at the time. I only used KMail and Pine long enough to know I hated them. Been using Mutt for some time now. But this topic seems to have gotten well out of hand. I even had a few people email me with quite nasty notes after my post. I was starting to believe I was the Anti-Christ and my Mother never told me, with the way they were responding and acting to all of this. And to think it started from a simple question about the mailing list! I wasn't even making a stand for either top posting or bottom posting, but I was still called an idiot and other host of lovely and very poignant names. As long as the message is conveyed, who cares where it's posted? But oh well. There are perks to living in a world where you can argue your point of view until you're blue in the face, now we just have to learn to afford other people the same rights huh? Thanks Sridhar! tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 7:30am up 9 days, 13:15, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 05:47, Tim Holmes wrote: | Those links are all find and dandy, but not for a MAILING list. Those | are unwritten and accepted ruls for NEWSGROUPS, which this is not. | | The reason why those are so accepted and enforced on news groups, is | because 100% of all newsreaders I've used, show the original post and | responses right there with the message. So quoting a post is really | only for the person that reads a post, then deletes the thread. That | would be the only need for hugely quoted message. | | However, mailing lists are entirely different. Some people don't | include any of the message they're responding to, and as I've noticed in | working envirnment, replies that come in several days AFTER the original | message was sent, catches the person of guard. Not sure what email is | about, so they then go searching for the message they sent. | | Also in the case of this mailing list, we have a lot of questions asked | about KMail. So we know a lot of people on the list are using that, and | of course there's pine. Neither one of these readers will sort out the | mail into threads. So you can have the original question sent in at | noon, the first response comes in at a 2. But in that two our time | span, 25 other messages come in. So rather then just replying and | hoping people can find the post it was a reply to, they add what they're | replying to. And this is really only a courtesy for those have readers | like this. So that's why it's placed at the bottom. | | I don't mean to pick, but KMail in KDE 2.2 _does_ support threading. I agree | with your arguments, though :-) | | -- | Sridhar Dhanapalan. | There are two major products that come from Berkeley: | LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. | -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] just wondering
Those links are all find and dandy, but not for a MAILING list. Those are unwritten and accepted ruls for NEWSGROUPS, which this is not. The reason why those are so accepted and enforced on news groups, is because 100% of all newsreaders I've used, show the original post and responses right there with the message. So quoting a post is really only for the person that reads a post, then deletes the thread. That would be the only need for hugely quoted message. However, mailing lists are entirely different. Some people don't include any of the message they're responding to, and as I've noticed in working envirnment, replies that come in several days AFTER the original message was sent, catches the person of guard. Not sure what email is about, so they then go searching for the message they sent. Also in the case of this mailing list, we have a lot of questions asked about KMail. So we know a lot of people on the list are using that, and of course there's pine. Neither one of these readers will sort out the mail into threads. So you can have the original question sent in at noon, the first response comes in at a 2. But in that two our time span, 25 other messages come in. So rather then just replying and hoping people can find the post it was a reply to, they add what they're replying to. And this is really only a courtesy for those have readers like this. So that's why it's placed at the bottom. For those of us that use mail readers that support threading in the reader, what's the point of going through and reading something I've already read in order to read what's new? Or having to scroll all the way to the bottom because people quote an entire message. And even to bypass all the things have been said about it, this is a NEWBIE list. Most of these people joined this list because they found something on a web page some place hearing it was a great source of help. Of those people, a lot of those have never been on a higher traffic mailing list like this. They respond to the email as they've always responded to emails! I know a lot of people bottom-post because that's where the cursor is in their mail reader. And they don't know how to change that configuration, and don't care to respond at the top of the post. I've been on this list and contributed for almost a year now, and suddenly this bicker is started. If you want to enforce newsgroup rules, then find a Mandrake newsgroup to do such. But as for a mailing list, consisting of people who most likely don't spend much time on any newsgroups, just deal with it. My only complaint about the list is that MajorDomo now attaches the foot.header mess, and using mutt, it looks like an attachment, so I have the attachment indicator in the middle of my messages. [-- Attachment #1 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 8bit, Size: 3.8K --] I'm sure I could have that mess removed in my ~/.muttrc but I don't feel like trying to find out what's needed and adding it. My ~/.muttrc for this mailbox is already like 180 lines long. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 3:30pm up 8 days, 21:14, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 08:20:42PM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: | Tom, sorrry I disagree strongly. Top posting is never appropriate. | | Please peruse the following links: | | http://www.malibutelecom.fi/yucca/usenet/brox.html | http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html | http://fmf.fwn.rug.nl/~anton/topposting.html | | And last but not least: | From rfc1855 [located at the FAQ org] | | If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you | summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just | enough text of the original to give a context. This will make | sure readers understand when they start to read your response. | Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the | postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a | response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context | helps everyone. But do not include the entire original! | | -- | Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764 | | /~\ | 'If you're not a rebel when you're 20 you've got no heart; if \ / | you're not establishment when you're 30 you've got no brain. X | Join the ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML email/ \ -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why won't you help me?
Well the only response to the message you sent was the best on. The reason why I didn't respond to your post. The solutions that would cause the least amount of headaches would be to buy a REAL modem. Even if you did get the WinModem working, you'd be sending posts asking why it disconnects like it does. All because poorly written beta drivers for something never intended to run under a real operating system. But, just to humor you, since you seem to feel neglected at the lists failure to help you, I'll offer some help for your problem. You may need a newer and/or recompiled kernel to accept the module for your modem. Not knowing which version of Mandrake, or what kernel you're using, I couldn't speculate as to what is needed. When you found that your modem actually has a driver for Linux, still doesn't mean it will work for your machine, with your kernel, or even with Mandrake. Mandrake is becoming more and more popular, and more mainstreamed (As much as Linux can be at this point in time.) but those drivers were written and compiled for RedHat 6.2 or RedHat 7.0. Maybe even Debian, so you may even need to compile the driver yourself in hopes of getting it to work under your Mandrake machine. But let's not get into the state of mind where people think if there's a driver, especially beta, then it's supported under Linux. And this is a Users List. Just because you post an question, doesn't mean it's going to be responded to. If you don't get a response, try posting it to the EXPERT list. Or try going to MandrakeCampus.com, or going through more doc pages. I've posted quite a few questions to the board that nobody replies to. Either they don't read it, or they have no clue on how to help. Keep that in mind as well as take some recommendations with a grain of salt. What worked for them, may not work for you. As well as any sort of formated text is the first kind of email to get deleted. For those of us that use console based mailers like pine, elm, or mutt, HTML emails aren't worth the ~/.mailcap entry. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 7:08pm up 7 days, 52 min, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | People, why didn't anybody reply to my message, .a files for modules? I | would like some clue as to what the problem is, please, not necessarily the | solution for it. | Please reply to it. | Solver | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I test my NIC?
Well here are a few commands to run to see if Mandrake sees the card and is going to have a chance in hell of using it. [eric@ericekong eric]$ cat /etc/modules.conf | grep eth alias eth0 3c59x That machine has a 3Com card in it. So your 3c59x may read something completely different. If it's there, that's a very good sign. But this right here is the real test. Does your NIC have an IRQ? [eric@ericekong eric]$ cat /proc/interrupts | grep eth 11: 829318 XT-PIC eth0 If you see eth of any kind there, your card has an IRQ and merely needs to be configured. You can then configure the card via HardDrake. I'd suggest that since it's very simple. Once that's done, open DrakConf and go through and configure the network for the card. After all that's done, one last command would be ifconfig. (If you're not root, you'll have to use the path. /sbin/ifconfig) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:44:04:89 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:60878 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:62667 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:586 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:7 Base address:0xe800 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:69 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:69 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 That will tell you your IP address for your NIC. If you have more then one NIC, then you'd have eth1, eth2 and so on. Hope that comes in hand. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 7:20pm up 7 days, 1:05, 8 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | My NIC tests ok with it's software. How can I be sure the correct drivers, | etc. are configured? How do I test it? | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question about 'chmod'
I was noticing a few of the commands have an s in their persmissions. [timh@r2d2 timh]$ ls -la `which wall` -r-xr-sr-x1 root tty 6652 Mar 8 04:37 /usr/bin/wall* What's up with the s there, and how do I set that? What number, or text goes with that? I know how chmod works in most applications, but a lot of things in /usr/bin has an s there, what does that mean? tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 4:56pm up 4 days, 22:41, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenSSH at Old Linux
I don't see why not, as long as there's software that will allow it. I'd suggest installing from source if you'd like to do this. What version is your Old Version of linux? But I'd check www.openssh.com and check with them. They may have something more suited for your machine. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 9:42pm up 4 days, 3:26, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Hi! | | Can I configure OpenSSH utilities at my Old Version Of Linux ? | | | Best Regards, | SKLIM | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake vs. SuSE
I've installed and used both, so I'll give you a bit of insite. INSTALL Mandrake 8.0 -- 45 minute install with basic configurations added SuSE 7.0 -- Almost 2 hours to a login prompt I don't know anybody personally that could not isntall Mandrake. I was the first out of a group of 5 people to install SuSE. Mandrake is 2 CDs downloaded, and 4 CDs for an install if you buy it. SuSE is 6 CDs to buy, I have no idea about downloading ISOs. CONFIGURATION Mandrake has it'd Drak(e) series. DrakConf, HardDrake, mousedrake, and the like. Most people find them very easy to navigate, and basically like the interfaces. (Personally I still like linuxconf.) SuSE uses it's own configuration tool, called YAST. They actually had YAST and YAST2 in SuSE 7.0. They may have gotten rid of YAST in 7.1 and higher. There's another config tool they have as well, but I can't recall it's name right now. YAST, will get the job done, but is a bit combersome if you ask me. I found it easily to edit config files manually over using YAST, but I have the knowledge to do so. A newbie would need to use YAST, and may not fully appreciate the tool. SECURITY Mandrake is pretty secure right out the box. Firewall software is already installed, just needs to be configured. OpenSSH is installed, and all you need to do is disable telnet. Use ProFTP instead of WU-FTP and you're pretty set. SuSE you need to install OpenSSH, but FTP is locked down pretty well, it uses ProFTP by default. I didn't run into any of the prostfix/sendmail mess either. Security is just about what it is in Mandrake. As far as firewall software, I'm not sure. WORKSTATION Mandrake makes a very good newbie workstation. It has some kewl games, it has a lot of apps that you will never know about let alone use, but if you need to do something, it probably has something that can do it. It has a broad choice of windows managers and windows environments to use, all optimized for Mandrake. Especially KDE and GNOME which seem to be very popular. SuSE has access to can install a lot more windows mangers/environments but there are still others that you'd have to install manually. Enlightenment comes to mind. Some of the windows mangers/environments are tied to each other, some people like that, others don't. With a SuSE install, you'll need more configurations to just use the machine as a workstation then you would with Mandrake. But once you get the hang of it, it's really very sound. OVERALL I must say that Mandrake is for everybody. It's a solid workstation for the user that's new to Linux, as well as a very solid machine for a more advanced, power user that run a lot of servers in the background, install lost of apps, recompile test kernels and the like. It can, and does, handle each user very well. I'm an advanced user, and I beat my machine up. There are currently 32 user on my machine, I have monitoring tools, and a boat load of mess running. My machine handles it with no problem. (I do have very good hardware as well.) SuSE once configured and setup the way you want it, is very solid. But a brand new user, the newbie, may run into some problems trying to get it setup that way. - So in the end, it comes down to what kind of users you are, and what kind of experience you'd like to have for your first Linux distro. Caldera is a distro for a newbie, I've not used it extensively, as I have other distros, but it's good for a newbie. Well that's my couple of cents, hope that helps you a little. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 9:07am up 11 days, 20:02, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Hi to everybody, | | I'm deciding which distro use: Mandrake or SuSE. | Does any of you know the strengths and weaknesses of each one of those | distributions ? | | Thanks in advance, | Aldo | -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Programs
A RPM that was created for i386 will work just fine for ix86. I wouldn't even worry about it. It will do the trick and work just fine. I highly doubt you'd even notice the difference. But if you're hell bent on installing and configuring more up to date software then you can go the tarball route. As Paul mentioned in his post, you can go that route, but read the README and INSTALL file that come with about 98% of tarballz. They will tell you if you can run a make dep, or a make clean, or if you should even do that. And in some cases there isn't even a configure that you can use, you just need to make and make install. So check out the docs that come with the software. But Paul is right, for the most part, those are the steps you'd use for installing software from source. ./configure make make install You can add make dep, or make depend after the make line, then add a make clean after the make depend, or after the make. Personally I like installing software from source, but that's just me. RPMs are more uniform with where they put software, and that can be a good thing, then again you can do a ./configure --installdir=/usr/bin and it will do that, but after a while you forget to put that in there. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:03pm up 11 days, 22:57, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.01, 0.00 | Hello, | | I occaisionally download programs from the net for my box, however, some time the |rpms are in rh6.0 or rh7.0 format. | and that would mean they are optimised for the 386(?) cpu. | | which means my only alternative for a good install for the pentium class would be |any tarball format. | and tho i have had my linux box for a while, i m still a newbie and need help doing |make, install whatever so i downloaded this command line tool called alien that wil |supposedly do the job automatically. | | however, i want something like rpmdrake... with a gui... and admitedly i m a |recovering windows user. | | i have been to www.kde.org and found kinstall (and yes its in .tar format) but am |not sure about it as the reviews on it dont give it a 5 out of 5. | | SO I was wondering if there was anything better than KInstall? | | thanks -- -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:03pm up 11 days, 22:57, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML editor sought
HTML email's are EVIL! But I use Quanta, or Vi. Quanta is pretty handy. I used that to start out with since I'd forgotten a lot of my HTML. Now that it's refreshed my memory I've gone back to vi, or vim. Quanta is installed standard. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 1:44pm up 12 days, 39 min, 7 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 | I am looking for a good (decent) HTML editor for Mandrake 8.0 Is there | something similiar to Ultra-Edit or CuteHTML available? Could anyone | reccommend something light, simple, but a little more specialised that vi or | any other editor? | | _ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Different ways of starting X???
I use xinit to start xwindows. I have a .xinitrc in my $HOME that reads: [timh@r2d2 timh]$ cat .xinitrc exec enlightenment For KDE that would read exec startkde. But the key stroke you're looking for to close down xwindows, is CTRL+ATL+BACKSPACE. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:07pm up 12 days, 10:01, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 | OK, Ive got a new interesting problem... If I type startx from a | command prompt then X starts up fine... Hoever if I type X then it | starts up with that sort of grey screen with a pointer on it but never | gets any graphics. I know kdm tries to start x with an X command so why | is this behaving this way? | | Oh and by the way I remember their was a key sequence to force X to | shutdown What was that? | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ping port 7?
I think this would block pings, but I'm sure there are other ways, much better, to block ping request. A firewall should handle that for you. As far as it preventing you from pinging other machines, it won't affect you. If you block the port, it will not accept packets at that level, it has nothing to do with you being able to us /bin/ping. The only way to really prevent that, would be to do a chmod /bin/ping. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 8:53pm up 8 days, 7:48, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | I *think* that port 7 being the echo port is reserved for ping related | packets. If I closed off that port who I appear unreachable, request timed | out? Would I be able to ping others if I closed that port? Would there be any | other adverse effects? | --
Re: [newbie] Reasons for use LM 8.0
Honestly Mike... I think it started out that way. You'd have to find a serious Slacker to confirm that though. I think most people still install it via FTP, but basically the install is a FreeBSD install. It installs everything from source, I think it may use RPMs, but as I said, I didn't have it installed long enough as I needed that hardware to build a test machine. (Work calls, and the play things get wiped out! :0( OH well, huh?) I think it's a good idea that people who consider themselves advanced users, install and play with as many distros as possible. This is more feasable for me since I have the hardware to do so. I have a machine that I could wipe out once a week and install something new if I felt the need to do so. But it helps verse the user in how other distros work. That's one reason why I've tried so many *nix distros. Heck, I've even installed Linux in VMware! Couldn't get it to load Xwindows, but dang it I tried! But I try and keep an unbiased look at things like this. When recommending to a client what OS they should use for an install, ya get pretty good at that. I like Mandrake for a workstation. I spend all day making sure things work and stay working on servers, or fixing things on other workstations, I don't want to spend part of that day fixing my workstation as well! Now that I've installed Mandrake so many times, it takes me 2 hours to install and configure my machine, and then I don't have to do anything but check the logs. :0) tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 7:37am up 6 days, 18:32, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:18:41 -0400 | Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: | | Nice tidy summation, Tim. You hit most of the major Linux and *BSD | distros in a fairly unimpassioned, relatively _nuetral_ manner. I once | read of Slackware (on another list I believe) that i wa not really a | distro, at all, just a tarball of someone's hard drive ;o) | Mike | | -- | If a man loses his reverence for any part of life, he will lose his | reverence for all of life. | -- Albert Schweitzer | | _ | Do You Yahoo!? | Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com | --
Re: [newbie] ./ ?????
Try checking the permissions. Are the permissions so that you could execute it? They would look something like this. [timh@yoda timh]$ ls -la `which mutt` -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 426528 May 27 16:42 /usr/local/bin/mutt As you can see, the x means it's executable. Try also sh command. That may help. But I'd check the permissions to start out with. Hope that helps. -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:36pm up 7 days, 10:31, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 | When I type ./COMMAND whatever that command may be, it doesnt always work. | Sometmes it says it can not execute the binary file, other times it says I | can find the file. I cant do it as root or a normal user. | | ~Lance | --
Re: [newbie] Reasons for use LM 8.0
This really comes down to what do they want to do with the machines. Are these going to be desktops for users? Are these going to be servers? Are these going to be used to teach a class on Linux? I've installed quite a good number of different distros in my day. (Always wanted to say that! :0) And in my experience it just comes down to what the machines are going to do. Mandrake makes a great desktop for new users. It's stable, is reasonably secure right out of the box. It's cute, people are drawn to it. RedHAT, especially lately, seem to have abandoned security. 7.1 out of the box can be hacked into in minutes. Recently we installed a 7.1 machine, and 25 minutes after the server was installed, it was already hacked and somebody using portscanning software! That was a server install! But RedHAT 6.2 is very sound! We went back to that version for that server, no problems. Installing apps comes very easy. Everything is made in Linux for RedHAT. Debian has a following of users that at times have a complex thinking they're the group of elite *nix users. It is however very secure, in my experience it's a pain in the butt to install. There is starting to be more and more support for it as far as software as well as hardware. As far as a desktop machine for a regular every day user, I would suggest against it. SuSE is a muscle car. I know we through around a lot of car comparisons when it comes to the distro wars, but it's a pretty package, but tuned up a bit. Security is good, apps are plenty, but not as many as RedHAT or Mandrake. It's a long, hardware intensive install. SuSE 7.0 was 6 discs I believe. Took almost 2 hours to install. But it was very solid and sound when installed. Caldera had the best install. I used that for a month or so before Mandrake 7.0 came out. After that I've used Mandrake for my workstations. It was pretty simple, nothing to complicated about it, but I don't know about it being a real sound workstation, it was very much so an in for Windows users. Administration was next to none, but since there wasn't much to administer, that would cut back on the work needed. FreeBSD is a server distro if you ask me. I know some people do use it for a workstation, but it's a damn good server. Kernel compiles are easy and quick, very secure, a lot of ISPs use them for servers. You'll have a very solid server, that once it's configured to your liking, only backups are needed. Talk to somebody else about using it as a desktop. OpenBSD is a server only really. You can lock that machine down so tight, the only way you can get into it, would be to sit down at it's keyboard. But the web server and mail server and everything else will work great! Not a desktop OS at all! I've tried 4 times and I couldn't get Xwindows to work correctly at all! Slackware wasn't anything impressive honestly. It's install was a lot like FreeBSD, but nothing special. I honestly didn't leave it installed long enough since I had to use that machine as a test server for RedHAT for our current project. But where you'll find a fair comparison of the distros to let you know which one you should choose for what, good luck! I've looked. All of them have been out dated, and biased. But something like this should be researched AFTER they know what they want to do with the machines. Hope that helps a little. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 11:02pm up 6 days, 9:56, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Hi...In my college we are going to install in about 20 PC's one Linux | distribution. I believe that LM 8.0 is the best one i ever seen so far | for the purposes we had... Another persons think that SuSE 7.1 is the best, | another ones think that RH 7.2 is better, and so on | | The question is, i want to know some place on the internet, or some document | which contains a further explication of why to choose LM instead other | distributions.. | | Thanks | | Bytes | | | | --
Re: [newbie] Really small LAN of 2
I agree with Sridhar. I think the fact that the machine's name is localhost, is causing a bit of a problem. It could very well be the firewall as well. But edit this file: [root@r2d2 sysconfig]# cat network NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=false HOSTNAME=MACHINE-NAME-HERE DOMAINNAME=DOMAIN.ORG-HERE Edit that, restart the network, and other services. I'm not sure if bastille runs as a service or not. But just to be sure do a: /etc/init.d/network restart That must be done as root of course. I'd edit the /etc/hosts and make sure you fix the first line that holds the 127.0.0.1, since that seems to get messed up quite often. And add the correct names and IP address. The basic form goes as follows. 127.0.0.1 localhost.DOMAIN.ORG localhost 192.168.0.1 router.DOMAIN.ORG router 192.168.0.2 aj.DOMAIN.ORG aj The names can be switched around if you'd like, it will still work, I actually have them switched so it shows the short name instead of the long name when you do a `w` on the machine. From there try running that ping. Going both ways of course. Then try and ping the outside world. I'd suggest naming the Linux box something like ROUTER since that's what it appears to do, or go with a theme. A lot of people have network themes and a lot of companies do. My them would be StarWars. (YODA, R2D2, JEDI, CHEWBACCA) At work we use various themes. Elements, Greek gods, and the ever so popular, cartoon names. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 10:57am up 3 days, 21:52, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:41, Dennis Myers wrote: | I have two computers connected via a hub. Localhost (linux) is the Samba | server and also a client, AJ is an windows box client. | Currently, AJ can connect to the internet through localhost using | localhost firewall also, AJ can ping 127.0.0.1 but can not ping the | localhost 192.168.0.1 | Localhost can ping both the name AJ and the address 192,168.0.2 | In network neighborhood on AJ, AJ shows up but not localhost, all are set | up on localgroup. I know, real original on the names ha. | So, does anyone know what I may have set up incorrectly to prevent AJ from | pinging the localhost address? Samba is so close to being configured I can | taste it. TIA for any assistance. | | localhost (and localhost.localdomain) is a name that is normally used by | a computer to refer to itself via a loopback interface. Perhaps this is | causing some kind of confusion on your network. Try renaming localhost to | something else. | | -- | Sridhar Dhanapalan. | There are two major products that come from Berkeley: | LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. | -- Jeremy S. Anderson | --
[newbie] 'Rumor' of TCP/MS WinXP [Check this out]
Somebody sent this to me today, as he and I usually discuss varied technical issues, and in reading, I thought this was something the groups may like to see. If you've already seen it or commented on, I apologize for the waisted bandwith, but I think this is worth distributing. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 12:56pm up 3 days, 23:51, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: [newbie] copying files from one to another
Try drakesync if you'd like. IT will use SSL to do so, or SSH, I can't remember which. You can also use scp. scp FILE.NAME $[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/for/file Do a which for scp to make sure it's installed and then check the man page for more information. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Use Vi! Uptime: 2:55pm up 4 days, 1:50, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | I have two laptops on the same network running Mandrake 8. Samba is | installed and running on both. It is not clear to me how best to | copy files from one to the other for backup and synchronization | purposes. Can someone recommend the best method? | | Andy | --
Re: [newbie] Cable Modem
If you're running a cable modem you have a static IP for the moment.
They may change it later, but usually they wait a few months.
As root, run this command.
[root@r2d2 /root]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd status
Apache is running.
httpd: 25635 25634 20976 20975 19872 19871 19870 19869 1095
Apache-mod_perl is running.
httpd-perl: 1090 1089 1088 1087 1080
Use /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd extendedstatus for more information.
If you get something like that, then you're Apache server is running.
Then run this comamnd.
[root@r2d2 /root]# ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk '{print $2}'
addr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Plugg the above xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx in your browser, from there you should
get the default Apache page.
You can put your HTML in /var/www/html or you can do this:
[$USER@r2d2 $USER]$ mkdir public_html
[$USER@r2d2 $USER]$ cd ..
[$USER@r2d2 /home]$ chmod 0755 $USER/ $USER/public_html/
From there copy your HTML and images to $HOME/public_html and then
access them at http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/~$USER
Give that a try and let us know how it went.
tdh
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